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FrankDFixer | sorry toadlife - its gingerbread on my dx | 00:02 |
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toadlife | FrankDFixer: sorry never run the GB build | 00:51 |
toadlife | I mean, I've never run the GB build | 00:52 |
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xdandroid | New kernel available (20110504_080912) at http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20110504_080912-package.tar.bz2 | 02:17 |
Recnamoruen | hey guys | 02:22 |
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hyc | woohoo, kernel with USB tethering working ;) | 03:24 |
hyc | too bad we still don't have wistilt2's fixes | 03:25 |
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creat1ve | hey guys, what about the xdandroid gingerbread built and gps? is it already working? | 03:49 |
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ryannathans | have those audio drivers been commited yet? | 04:34 |
hyc | kernel side was committed. you could just watch the repo on gitorious and not have to ask. | 04:35 |
ryannathans | -.- sigh | 04:35 |
hyc | dunno what visible change it makes. I'm running that kernel now. | 04:36 |
ryannathans | also has anyone ben working on buletooth userland? | 04:36 |
ryannathans | publicly i must add | 04:38 |
hyc | have to ask stinebd | 04:38 |
hyc | supposedly he received the patches in private email | 04:38 |
hyc | hm. I just tried making a call with new kernel, and hitting some DTMFs | 04:38 |
ryannathans | i have had a look but not sure where the problem resides | 04:38 |
hyc | external speaker turned on, as before. with static. | 04:38 |
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hyc | so apparently the kernel side changes don't do much without userland | 04:39 |
ryannathans | the static problem is random ofor me | 04:39 |
hyc | hitting the keypad gets it pretty reliably for me | 04:39 |
ryannathans | are there any drivers left in userland? | 04:40 |
hyc | eh? | 04:40 |
hyc | "driver" is generally a kernel-specific term | 04:41 |
ryannathans | at one stage in mailing list they were talking about guing over moving them to kernel | 04:41 |
ryannathans | *remove guing* | 04:41 |
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hyc | remove what? | 04:42 |
ryannathans | i will have to re read it but im sure they were talking about drivers in userland | 04:42 |
hyc | IMO that's a mistake | 04:42 |
hyc | allowing user processes direct access to hardware is always asking for trouble | 04:43 |
ryannathans | i shall investigate later, either some driver exists in userland or someone tried to add one. | 04:43 |
hyc | there's talk of moving audio driver to userland | 04:44 |
ryannathans | that must be it | 04:44 |
hyc | generally that's a bad idea | 04:44 |
ryannathans | precisely what i was thinking | 04:44 |
hyc | it's a shared system resource, it's a kernel's job to manage those things. | 04:45 |
hyc | otherwise you need to duplicate a lot of state and interlocking in every user process | 04:45 |
Recnamoruen | hy | 04:45 |
Recnamoruen | have you had any problems on ur tp2 with ur device not recognizing the data connection? | 04:45 |
hyc | not recognizing? lol | 04:46 |
hyc | gsm or cdma? mine works perfectly | 04:46 |
Recnamoruen | cdma | 04:46 |
Recnamoruen | like google applications always say connection not available | 04:46 |
Recnamoruen | like for the past 2 days ive been able to use the browser and any other data apps | 04:47 |
Recnamoruen | but gtalk doesn't see it | 04:47 |
hyc | nope | 04:47 |
hyc | you're not running droidwall or some other iptables manipulator? | 04:47 |
Recnamoruen | nope | 04:48 |
hyc | if it were happening to me, I would get some logs and see what gtalk things it's doing... | 04:49 |
hyc | thinks | 04:49 |
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FrankDFixer | anyone know anything about lcd density changer? I installed and rebooted and now all I get is a blank screen after red logo. (GB 591 on DX) | 07:27 |
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GPFerror | no | 07:37 |
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arrrghhh | "Everything just works" | 09:32 |
arrrghhh | LOL | 09:32 |
hyc | 500 patches later... | 09:44 |
arrrghhh | yea | 09:44 |
helicopter88 | hyc: have you asked to merge other patches? | 09:44 |
arrrghhh | that's my point. everything doesn't 'just work' | 09:44 |
hyc | I was talking about mount/unmount specifically tho | 09:45 |
arrrghhh | i know | 09:45 |
arrrghhh | but taken out of context | 09:45 |
hyc | and on my phone at the moment, all of that is working | 09:45 |
arrrghhh | as everyone loves to do | 09:45 |
arrrghhh | "so BT works?" | 09:45 |
arrrghhh | "i'm gonna setup this partition build thingy" | 09:45 |
hyc | lol | 09:45 |
hyc | yeah, good point | 09:46 |
arrrghhh | i'm tryin to think of what i said that was taken so out of context, it's like he only read 3 words of my post... | 09:46 |
hyc | yes, switching your build layout will magically fix your missing bt drivers. duh. | 09:46 |
arrrghhh | yea, it's surprising that people are that dub | 09:46 |
arrrghhh | dumb* | 09:46 |
arrrghhh | but the forums have proven that people really are that dumb. | 09:47 |
arrrghhh | helicopter88, to answer your question there's a couple rounds of requests. round 1 is done AFAIK, round 2 is in the works. | 09:47 |
hyc | oh well. i just visited the fb page for the first time today. yikes... | 09:47 |
arrrghhh | fb page? | 09:48 |
arrrghhh | oh right, XDAndroid has a fb page. | 09:48 |
arrrghhh | i haven't been to fb in... a looong time. | 09:48 |
arrrghhh | i wonder if my acct deactivates itself lol | 09:48 |
hyc | yes, i've sent merge requests for everything else. stinebd has been reading them over. | 09:48 |
arrrghhh | schweet | 09:49 |
helicopter88 | fb is stupid,more patches on rootfs,yummy :) | 09:49 |
arrrghhh | lol | 09:49 |
arrrghhh | not much left on rootfs | 09:49 |
arrrghhh | i don't think | 09:49 |
helicopter88 | as long as this projects gets better,i don't care about where are the patches located.. | 09:50 |
hyc | 3 reqs on it. 1 that looks like it's all committed already | 09:50 |
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hyc | 2nd one looks like it's messed up, so i resubmitted it as a 3rd one. | 09:50 |
arrrghhh | lol | 09:51 |
arrrghhh | helicopter88, it's getting much better. | 09:51 |
hyc | some misc stuff on framework and system | 09:51 |
arrrghhh | thanks to hyc :D | 09:51 |
arrrghhh | breathed some fresh new life into it | 09:51 |
helicopter88 | when everything will be merged,i'll have to check out the commits,i have to know what needs to be patched on my builds.. | 09:52 |
hyc | heh. all out of selfishness to get my phone working ;) | 09:52 |
arrrghhh | heh | 09:52 |
helicopter88 | ot question,if i compile my own xdandroid,will the apk be signed? | 09:52 |
arrrghhh | hyc, well i'd say your RIL work has been selfless | 09:52 |
arrrghhh | as you've been working on CDMA like a banshee | 09:52 |
arrrghhh | helicopter88, no | 09:52 |
arrrghhh | i assume you mean the system image | 09:52 |
arrrghhh | and no | 09:52 |
hyc | hm, good point ;) | 09:53 |
helicopter88 | i meant system,wohooo apk not signed,i need phone and settings :) | 09:53 |
hyc | mmm. every build is signed | 09:53 |
hyc | but not necessarily with a meaningful key | 09:53 |
arrrghhh | well | 09:53 |
arrrghhh | i guess i mean signed officially | 09:53 |
arrrghhh | yea | 09:53 |
arrrghhh | sorry | 09:53 |
arrrghhh | :P | 09:53 |
arrrghhh | test-keys = not signed in mah book | 09:54 |
hyc | yeh, ok | 09:54 |
helicopter88 | the problem is that if i put ginger xda's phone.apk in my build i get certs and other signature problems.. | 09:54 |
hyc | yep | 09:54 |
arrrghhh | helicopter88, yea you can't do that | 09:54 |
arrrghhh | kang-preventor! | 09:54 |
arrrghhh | :D | 09:54 |
helicopter88 | so,i thought about cloning myself,and taking them from my cloned build.. | 09:55 |
arrrghhh | to fix your call issue? | 09:55 |
arrrghhh | have you looked at lolcat? | 09:55 |
hyc | i should've stuck something like that into my ril binaries | 09:55 |
helicopter88 | yes,that call issue,i checked almost everything,but i think i forget about lolcat.. | 09:55 |
arrrghhh | lolcat is awesome | 09:56 |
helicopter88 | maybe because adb was saying that lolcat can't be found.. | 09:56 |
hyc | prevent people from running if they haven't read the instructions... | 09:56 |
arrrghhh | hyc, good luck! | 09:56 |
hyc | lol | 09:56 |
hyc | could have set password on the zip i guess | 09:56 |
arrrghhh | meh | 09:57 |
helicopter88 | and the psw could be hidden somewhere in the post.. | 09:57 |
hyc | yep | 09:57 |
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helicopter88 | but then no one will use android :) | 09:57 |
hyc | heh. oh well | 09:57 |
helicopter88 | or we may get a lot of pm's with whts the psw,i need that.. | 09:58 |
hyc | they could have continued to use ril1 in fake gsm | 09:58 |
arrrghhh | i still see people using it | 09:58 |
arrrghhh | ril1 | 09:58 |
hyc | without changing anything configwise | 09:59 |
helicopter88 | ril1 was pretty nice,nothing needs to be changed,and on partitioned build is a mess to change rootfs :( | 09:59 |
hyc | yeah, the download counter keeps going.. | 09:59 |
helicopter88 | maybe you should change the post 1 | 09:59 |
hyc | still, without the switchover to init.android, it would keep on hanging | 10:00 |
helicopter88 | put it a big line "RIL ON THIS POST IS DISCONTINUED" | 10:00 |
hyc | should just close the thread, all testing there is concluded. | 10:01 |
hyc | "everything just works" | 10:01 |
hyc | :) | 10:02 |
arrrghhh | lol | 10:02 |
arrrghhh | stabstabstab | 10:02 |
helicopter88 | "everything works, related to USB mass storage" you fixed it? | 10:02 |
hyc | bwahahahaha | 10:02 |
arrrghhh | helicopter88, yes | 10:02 |
arrrghhh | hyc fixed it, that is. | 10:02 |
arrrghhh | no me, i just break things :D | 10:02 |
hyc | lol | 10:02 |
helicopter88 | I just made a script that deletes init.android and stop,pretty awesome :) | 10:03 |
hyc | yeah, needed a small kernel fix. it's already in the autobuilds | 10:03 |
arrrghhh | lol | 10:03 |
arrrghhh | hyc, i still haven't gotten that ML post you sent | 10:03 |
arrrghhh | hahaha | 10:03 |
arrrghhh | you pushed the USB tethering fix too? | 10:04 |
arrrghhh | looks like it | 10:04 |
hyc | likewise usb tether needed a small patch, and that's in now too | 10:04 |
arrrghhh | fawk | 10:04 |
arrrghhh | i guess i need to get off wistilt2's kernels | 10:04 |
arrrghhh | i just love the fast wake | 10:04 |
hyc | i think acl pushed it | 10:04 |
hyc | yeah, me too | 10:04 |
hyc | plus wis's kernel doesn't lose as much time sync | 10:04 |
arrrghhh | yea you said that | 10:04 |
arrrghhh | odd | 10:04 |
arrrghhh | who knows what voodoo he's putting in there. | 10:05 |
hyc | yeah. nobody. | 10:05 |
arrrghhh | unfortunately he only provides snippets, I don't think he's ever released anything more. | 10:05 |
arrrghhh | he really seems against making his own public tree, which is baffling... but he's probably not used to OS dev | 10:05 |
arrrghhh | oss | 10:05 |
hyc | i wonder if he chased down the radio/sleep bug | 10:06 |
arrrghhh | heh | 10:06 |
arrrghhh | he said that one was a doozie, and related to a gigantic clocks commit | 10:06 |
arrrghhh | jb's amss clocks implementation. | 10:06 |
hyc | well, we knew that commit introduced the bug | 10:06 |
helicopter88 | my pc is getting crazy,it just opened modern warfare 2 without my imput.. | 10:06 |
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helicopter88 | oh and sorry for the ot.. | 10:07 |
arrrghhh | hyc, i thought it was his panel collapse commit | 10:07 |
hyc | not much fun narrowing that down i bet | 10:07 |
arrrghhh | helicopter88, PC wants to play | 10:07 |
hyc | lol | 10:07 |
helicopter88 | so,let's play,i'll do a match,then back here :) | 10:07 |
arrrghhh | lol ok | 10:07 |
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arrrghhh | hyc, for this kernel patch, it doesn't matter that i'm on vastly inferior looped mounts? | 10:08 |
hyc | no | 10:08 |
arrrghhh | i would assume no, but i've been burned by assuming. | 10:08 |
arrrghhh | cool | 10:08 |
hyc | but it won't really help you either | 10:08 |
arrrghhh | other changes needed? | 10:09 |
hyc | i tried to get vold to play nice on a looped build | 10:09 |
arrrghhh | oh i don't care about mass storage | 10:09 |
arrrghhh | usb tether mang! | 10:09 |
hyc | oh that - totally independent | 10:09 |
arrrghhh | i mean mass storage would be nice, but meh. not necessary at this juncture. | 10:09 |
hyc | should work fine | 10:09 |
arrrghhh | that's what i thought, thx. | 10:10 |
arrrghhh | brb, new kernel tiem! | 10:10 |
emwe | heyho | 10:10 |
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hyc | it also takes some of the pressure off | 10:10 |
hyc | fixing wifi tether... | 10:10 |
hyc | howdy emwe | 10:10 |
emwe | just came home. looking into sound issues with jb's audio rework | 10:11 |
hyc | cool | 10:12 |
emwe | just that damn incall audio bug which brings device to freeze after 9 secs | 10:12 |
hyc | i haven't noticed much difference. but it's just kernel side anyway | 10:12 |
hyc | hmm | 10:12 |
emwe | the kernel stuff is not the real stuff | 10:13 |
emwe | it#s just preparation | 10:13 |
hyc | yeah i know | 10:13 |
hyc | but i haven't seen anything else :p | 10:13 |
emwe | kernel is missing htc-acoustic_wince.c then which is being interacted with libaudio/libhtc_acoustic | 10:14 |
emwe | from which the latter is the rewrite of the proprietary htc lib | 10:14 |
emwe | which takes care of csv parsing and telling kernel "what to do" | 10:14 |
hyc | yeh | 10:14 |
emwe | unsure though, if userland or kernel writes the audio params to MSM_SHARED_RAM_BASE | 10:14 |
hyc | would expecct kernel to | 10:14 |
emwe | just spotted register writes updating the audio mehtod, not the params itself, or i am blind | 10:14 |
emwe | passing params via ioctl i'd assume | 10:15 |
emwe | the libs itself are in jb's hardware_msm7k | 10:15 |
hyc | yeah that would be the obvious approach | 10:15 |
hyc | ok | 10:15 |
hyc | will have to pull em | 10:15 |
emwe | took only minimal build fixes for gingerbread | 10:15 |
emwe | and some little devices and vendor adjustments in order to copy the selfbuilt libhtc_acoustic.so and not use the the one from vendor...proprietary | 10:16 |
emwe | btw, resycned from aosp yesterday and the phone app crash is gone. | 10:16 |
hyc | cool | 10:16 |
hyc | figured it would bbe | 10:17 |
hyc | afk | 10:17 |
emwe | still haven't found the place for that JNI_H_INCLUDE to attract that new external/kernel-headers include/usb directory | 10:17 |
emwe | laters. | 10:17 |
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arrrghhh | still on easytether :( | 10:29 |
arrrghhh | tethering seemed to work, but this stupid XP box said no drivers. | 10:30 |
arrrghhh | Google tells me to do this | 10:30 |
arrrghhh | http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=182134#usb | 10:30 |
arrrghhh | which native devices it seems to work with. i'm wondering if we're identifying the driver correctly? | 10:30 |
arrrghhh | i'm not sure why this didn't work, but the driver didn't install after downloading that inf. I'm on SP3, the RDNIS driver shouldn't be an issue. | 10:31 |
arrrghhh | er | 10:31 |
arrrghhh | RNDIS | 10:31 |
emwe | on .27 we are identifying as google usb devices not htc | 10:35 |
emwe | perhaps that's the reason | 10:35 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 10:35 |
emwe | the vendorid is set to google | 10:35 |
arrrghhh | i just get a generic "CDC ADC Data" device | 10:35 |
emwe | i kept the htc vendorid on .35 | 10:35 |
arrrghhh | hmmmmmmm | 10:35 |
arrrghhh | that might be it | 10:35 |
emwe | the infs likely/usually contain the device and vendor id to match up the device | 10:35 |
arrrghhh | i'm thinking it's how the phone is identifiying itself to the machine | 10:35 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 10:36 |
emwe | yap | 10:36 |
arrrghhh | what is the goog vendor id? | 10:36 |
arrrghhh | yea they have N1 and NS in thar | 10:36 |
arrrghhh | Sapphire | 10:36 |
arrrghhh | hmmm | 10:36 |
emwe | hmpfs, did i tell bullshit and mixed stuff up?!... | 10:37 |
emwe | 0x0bb4 is htc | 10:37 |
arrrghhh | yea | 10:37 |
arrrghhh | %AndroidDevice% = RNDIS.NT.5.1, USB\VID_0BB4&PID_0FFC | 10:37 |
arrrghhh | for sapphire | 10:37 |
emwe | wtf. i am sure i saw a difference to .27 | 10:38 |
emwe | or was it alex' usb rework on his .35 | 10:38 |
emwe | .... | 10:38 |
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arrrghhh | hrmmmmm | 10:38 |
arrrghhh | emwe, you're tearing me in all sorts of directions :P | 10:39 |
emwe | lol | 10:39 |
emwe | 0x18d1 is google | 10:39 |
emwe | .vendorID = 0x18d1 <<< htc-usb.c from .27 | 10:40 |
arrrghhh | which do we use? | 10:40 |
emwe | was looking at devices.c which isn't use | 10:40 |
arrrghhh | i pulled that from the inf | 10:40 |
emwe | d | 10:40 |
arrrghhh | ah | 10:40 |
arrrghhh | ok | 10:40 |
arrrghhh | could you do me a favor sir? | 10:40 |
emwe | can you see in device manager as what vendor id is identified when it's plugged? | 10:40 |
arrrghhh | whip me up a .27 kernel with the HTC one... | 10:40 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 10:40 |
emwe | or listusb in linux | 10:40 |
arrrghhh | let's see | 10:40 |
arrrghhh | @ work... no linux :( | 10:41 |
emwe | arrrghhh: that was my plan before i fooled myself with looking at the wrong file. will prep a package for you to test | 10:41 |
arrrghhh | i'm sure this would work if it was linux :P | 10:41 |
arrrghhh | drivers, bah. | 10:41 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 10:41 |
arrrghhh | Device Instance ID | 10:41 |
arrrghhh | 0bb4 | 10:42 |
emwe | so what didn't work? usb rndis? | 10:42 |
emwe | hm | 10:42 |
arrrghhh | USB\VID_0BB4&PID_0C01&MI_03\7&14F3DC86&4&0003 | 10:42 |
arrrghhh | yes | 10:42 |
arrrghhh | yea there's two devices | 10:42 |
emwe | rndis had the google one | 10:42 |
arrrghhh | USB\VID_0BB4&PID_0C01&MI_02\7&14F3DC86&4&0002 | 10:42 |
arrrghhh | those are almost the same heh | 10:42 |
emwe | 0c01 is the productid | 10:42 |
arrrghhh | one says "CDC Abstract Control Model (ACM)" | 10:42 |
arrrghhh | the other "CDC ACM Data" | 10:43 |
emwe | do they perhaps have different vendor ids? | 10:43 |
arrrghhh | yea there's hardware ids | 10:43 |
arrrghhh | vendor ids... let me see | 10:43 |
arrrghhh | nothing related to vendor | 10:43 |
arrrghhh | in the drop down | 10:43 |
emwe | dunno which PIDs the driver attracts | 10:43 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 10:43 |
emwe | let's just try it. | 10:44 |
emwe | hm, in your paste... PID_0FFC | 10:44 |
arrrghhh | this is from the "Android ADB Interface" | 10:45 |
arrrghhh | USB\VID_0BB4&PID_0C01&MI_01\7&14F3DC86&4&0001 | 10:45 |
arrrghhh | same VID it seems | 10:45 |
emwe | 0C01 is what we have in kernel. | 10:46 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 10:46 |
arrrghhh | what is that | 10:46 |
arrrghhh | should I just try to add it to the inf? | 10:46 |
arrrghhh | heh | 10:46 |
arrrghhh | worth a shot i guesss | 10:46 |
emwe | the product id | 10:46 |
emwe | wait | 10:46 |
emwe | i hate my upload rate | 10:46 |
arrrghhh | lol | 10:46 |
emwe | 34kB/s isn't funny | 10:46 |
arrrghhh | sure it is. cuz it's not me :P | 10:47 |
emwe | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12183048/htctopaz/tmp/rndis-test.zip | 10:47 |
arrrghhh | although my upload isn't great, that's awful. | 10:47 |
emwe | uptodate .27 | 10:47 |
arrrghhh | cool | 10:47 |
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arrrghhh | did you just change the vendor ID? | 10:47 |
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emwe | i will be off a bit for coffee and cake | 10:47 |
arrrghhh | i'm just wondering what that product ID is | 10:47 |
emwe | arrrghhh: yes, just the vendorid | 10:47 |
arrrghhh | ah, np. take it easy. | 10:47 |
arrrghhh | thx | 10:48 |
emwe | 0c01 in kernel | 10:48 |
arrrghhh | k. cya later :D | 10:48 |
emwe | perhaps the rndis drivers only match to the htc vid | 10:48 |
emwe | which i assume | 10:48 |
arrrghhh | i'll play with it if your kernel doesn't work | 10:48 |
emwe | i can also change the pid for testing later. | 10:48 |
arrrghhh | cool | 10:49 |
emwe | ok, my gf just gtalked from work she's coming later... | 10:49 |
emwe | hmpfs! porocess acor crashed. | 10:50 |
arrrghhh | heh | 10:50 |
emwe | was there a fix? | 10:50 |
arrrghhh | well then you can stay for my test | 10:50 |
arrrghhh | acore crashing? | 10:50 |
emwe | yap | 10:50 |
arrrghhh | usually indicative of a corrupt data.img, or proc pegging | 10:50 |
arrrghhh | and acore not getting enough love from the proc | 10:50 |
arrrghhh | brb, test kernel | 10:50 |
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emwe | android.database.sqlite.SQLiteException: unable to open database file | 10:50 |
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arrrghhh | emwe, no dice. | 11:04 |
arrrghhh | i even added some lines in the inf file with the hopes of tricking it... | 11:04 |
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arrrghhh | hrm. i dont know that much about how windows handles drivers | 11:14 |
arrrghhh | it either works or it doesn't, lol. | 11:14 |
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arrrghhh | fishingmedic, how goes it | 11:25 |
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fishingmedic | sup arrrghhh | 11:28 |
arrrghhh | nada | 11:29 |
fishingmedic | ssdd | 11:29 |
arrrghhh | just trying to figure out this native USB tether... | 11:29 |
arrrghhh | stupid windows. | 11:30 |
arrrghhh | i'm betting it would 'just work' on linux. | 11:30 |
fishingmedic | winmo sucks, can't wait to be rid of it for good | 11:30 |
arrrghhh | no joke | 11:31 |
arrrghhh | i booted it today to update my kernel | 11:31 |
arrrghhh | and the 'main' desktop screen was completely white and blank | 11:31 |
arrrghhh | everything else seemed to work, but every time i went back to the main home screen, just whiteness. | 11:31 |
fishingmedic | lol | 11:31 |
arrrghhh | i lol'd, and promptly booted back to Android. | 11:31 |
fishingmedic | phone was confused | 11:31 |
arrrghhh | winmo is lonely. i haven't really used it in months... | 11:31 |
fishingmedic | I keep getting random full reboots back to winmo and get back android as quick as possible lol | 11:32 |
arrrghhh | lol | 11:32 |
arrrghhh | did you try a different SD? | 11:32 |
arrrghhh | mine was doing that, and the card was dying or smth. | 11:32 |
fishingmedic | nah, haven't had time lately, busy as hell, but I'm gonna try another one soon once I can move some data onto it | 11:32 |
arrrghhh | yea | 11:32 |
arrrghhh | i swapped SD's again | 11:33 |
arrrghhh | everything was so painfullly slow | 11:33 |
arrrghhh | i think i finally killed my 8gb c4 card. | 11:33 |
arrrghhh | dropped back to a 2gb 'classless' card, works fine. | 11:33 |
fishingmedic | it's a cheapy one but its stable as hell other than the occasional reboots, about 1 a day. | 11:33 |
arrrghhh | hrm. | 11:33 |
fishingmedic | that's what this one is classless card | 11:33 |
arrrghhh | i have reboots within Android | 11:33 |
arrrghhh | where suddenly you see the bootani | 11:33 |
arrrghhh | had like 4 of those yesterday | 11:33 |
arrrghhh | but i haven't had a full reboot to WinMo in a while. | 11:34 |
arrrghhh | unless i was doing something, ahem, uncouth :P | 11:34 |
fishingmedic | I have them if I try to do too much like updates in market, etc, reboot back to android, but lately been having some full reboots back to winmo | 11:34 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 11:34 |
fishingmedic | sucks when you wake up to winmo. It's like a bad dream lmao | 11:34 |
arrrghhh | es no bueno | 11:34 |
arrrghhh | hahahaha | 11:34 |
arrrghhh | no joke | 11:34 |
fishingmedic | my wife grabbed my phone the other day and touched something, rebooted to android w/ the flying androids, freaked her out, she thought she broke something | 11:35 |
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arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 11:40 |
arrrghhh | i'd let her believe that she did | 11:40 |
arrrghhh | that'll teach her for touching electronics. | 11:40 |
fishingmedic | I thought about it for a few and let her sweat lmao | 11:40 |
arrrghhh | heh | 11:40 |
emwe | arrrghhh: raph shows up here as HTC Dream ADB interface | 12:17 |
emwe | arrrghhh: it should show up as network device or what? never tested that. | 12:17 |
emwe | or let me rephrase that. i have no idea how that is to "show up" and behave. | 12:17 |
emwe | ok, my gfs g2 shows up with PID_0FFE | 12:20 |
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arrrghhh | emwe, sorry it didn't highlight me | 12:53 |
emwe | np | 12:53 |
emwe | a bit clueless from the quick loocks | 12:53 |
emwe | looks | 12:53 |
arrrghhh | there's three devices that pop up if you've never plugged it in | 12:53 |
arrrghhh | XDA | 12:53 |
arrrghhh | CDC | 12:53 |
arrrghhh | and uhm... something else. | 12:53 |
arrrghhh | the second CDC one would be my guess. | 12:54 |
emwe | it's supposed to popup as a network device, which it doesn't right? | 12:54 |
arrrghhh | XDA is the ADB one, which i have drivers installed for | 12:54 |
arrrghhh | the two CDC ones... nada | 12:54 |
arrrghhh | yea | 12:54 |
arrrghhh | should be RNDIS | 12:54 |
arrrghhh | that's what pops up with winmo usb tether | 12:54 |
arrrghhh | Generic RNDIS or smth | 12:54 |
emwe | the g2 popped up as htc rndis something. | 12:55 |
emwe | and winmo raph as generic rndis | 12:55 |
arrrghhh | huh... | 12:55 |
emwe | ok, i think i will have to check that out later. | 12:55 |
arrrghhh | yea, generic rndis is what i recall on winmo. | 12:55 |
emwe | how's everyones feelings with initrd+rootfs ond frx06? | 12:56 |
arrrghhh | i haven't tried the new initrd TBH | 12:56 |
arrrghhh | what's changed in it? | 12:56 |
arrrghhh | i guess i should look :P | 12:56 |
emwe | lol | 12:56 |
arrrghhh | oh | 12:56 |
arrrghhh | yea, i don't think there would be any issue with that commit on initrd. | 12:56 |
emwe | previous rootfs gave me no data | 12:57 |
emwe | most recent is fine again. | 12:57 |
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arrrghhh | oh yea i remember that complaint | 12:57 |
emwe | *might* have been the outdated userland here though | 12:57 |
arrrghhh | i'm probably still on some custom crap stine threw at me. | 12:57 |
emwe | no idea. | 12:57 |
toadlife | Im running the new initrd; noticed it yesterday. What changed? | 12:57 |
emwe | ;) | 12:57 |
arrrghhh | toadlife, don't be lazy like me. | 12:57 |
emwe | there's that autobuild page ;) | 12:57 |
toadlife | I also had no data with one of the new rootfs, so I switched back to F22s for now | 12:58 |
emwe | http://files.xdandroid.com/initramfs/ | 12:58 |
emwe | http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/ | 12:58 |
arrrghhh | lol | 12:58 |
emwe | there you have the commit logs | 12:58 |
arrrghhh | emwe, moar | 12:58 |
arrrghhh | moar! | 12:58 |
arrrghhh | :P | 12:58 |
toadlife | I didn't have the link to that autobuild page | 12:58 |
toadlife | thanks | 12:58 |
arrrghhh | yea, initrd hasn't changed since... august 2010 i think | 12:58 |
arrrghhh | 13 Aug 2010 21:06:49 | 12:58 |
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emwe | anyone seen the Thumb Keyboard on xda? | 13:00 |
emwe | finally a free keyb with cursor keys for us physkeyb-less | 13:01 |
emwe | (unless that rhod is still making it to me) | 13:01 |
emwe | arrrghhh: what do you think a working rhod400 would cost over there? any idea how much *insurranced_and_trackable* shipping would cost? | 13:02 |
arrrghhh | lol | 13:02 |
arrrghhh | I'd guess about $100-150 for a *gently* used RHOD | 13:03 |
arrrghhh | and insured/trackable... assuming it's still ground, i would think $20? | 13:03 |
arrrghhh | maybe a little more for int'l? | 13:03 |
emwe | hm. still some money... | 13:03 |
arrrghhh | it's not like it would've been that much more to get it insured/tracked... not sure why he didn't pony up for it, considering we paid :P | 13:03 |
arrrghhh | yea, they're not throwaways like DIAMs yet :P | 13:04 |
emwe | my paypal donations paid :) | 13:04 |
emwe | i'd go buy one here, but i really like that 3.5mm headphone jack | 13:04 |
emwe | have that crappy yc-a300 adapter | 13:05 |
emwe | listening music a lot at work. pita to unplug a whole concert stage cable equipment just for two earplugs | 13:05 |
arrrghhh | heh | 13:05 |
arrrghhh | emwe, i really wanted you to get that rhod400 too | 13:06 |
arrrghhh | makes me sad that it didn't make it... | 13:06 |
arrrghhh | perhaps stine will feel generous and ship you his :P | 13:06 |
emwe | still crossing fingers it comes by | 13:06 |
arrrghhh | yea, at this point there's not much hope i'd say. | 13:06 |
arrrghhh | Kraln is going to have to fight to get anything at this stage. | 13:06 |
emwe | i am just evaluating what other options there are | 13:06 |
arrrghhh | yea | 13:06 |
Kraln | I am indeed fighting | 13:06 |
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arrrghhh | hey! | 13:07 |
arrrghhh | how's the fight going Kraln ? | 13:07 |
emwe | hey Kraln. | 13:07 |
Kraln | they say they handed it to the international guys | 13:07 |
Kraln | and the international guys say it got to germany | 13:07 |
Kraln | and then they have no idea | 13:07 |
arrrghhh | fawk | 13:07 |
emwe | well, that's at least some info ;) | 13:08 |
emwe | luckily germany isn't that big. | 13:08 |
arrrghhh | emwe, it's in Germany! | 13:08 |
arrrghhh | find it. | 13:08 |
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emwe | Kraln: thanks for taking care of that again! | 13:09 |
arrrghhh | Kraln, is there anything that you can provide emwe to help the German folk locate it? | 13:10 |
arrrghhh | like perhaps what facility it was initially shipped to or smth? | 13:10 |
emwe | assuming it's been shipped to a german subsidiary of usps? | 13:10 |
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arrrghhh | GSPS | 13:10 |
arrrghhh | er perhaps just GPS? that's just confusing :P | 13:10 |
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arrrghhh | Evan, say something! | 13:18 |
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arrrghhh | ugh this starfox guy | 13:45 |
arrrghhh | he seems smart | 13:46 |
arrrghhh | then he posts something that is just retarded. | 13:46 |
toadlife | Being smart is hard work | 13:49 |
toadlife | maybe he's just taking breaks | 13:50 |
arrrghhh | lol | 13:52 |
toadlife | For the devs here: http://db.tt/OYzPiAG | 13:52 |
arrrghhh | that's good, i like that explanation. | 13:52 |
arrrghhh | heh | 13:53 |
arrrghhh | no | 13:53 |
arrrghhh | :P | 13:53 |
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toadlife | No? That's it... http://db.tt/fW4zrNf | 13:56 |
arrrghhh | damnit | 13:58 |
arrrghhh | makin me look at all this crap thru my tether :P | 13:58 |
arrrghhh | lol | 13:58 |
arrrghhh | you're on notice! | 13:58 |
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toadlife | Do you get 3g service? | 14:12 |
toadlife | I've never gotten 3g service with my Tp2...being on t-mobile | 14:12 |
arrrghhh | like butter | 14:12 |
arrrghhh | really? | 14:13 |
arrrghhh | 210? | 14:13 |
arrrghhh | i didn't think tmo users had 3g issues unless it was a non-tmo phone | 14:13 |
toadlife | T-Mobile doesn't offger 3g in my area | 14:13 |
toadlife | If I drive 40 miles I can get it | 14:13 |
arrrghhh | oh | 14:13 |
arrrghhh | well stfu then | 14:13 |
arrrghhh | i guess i should say | 14:13 |
toadlife | Went to a conference in Santa Clara last month and did tethering with 3g. Worked like a champ | 14:13 |
arrrghhh | 'what is your question then sir?' | 14:13 |
arrrghhh | yup | 14:14 |
toadlife | Point is...don't bitch. You could be tethering over edge. | 14:15 |
arrrghhh | oh | 14:15 |
toadlife | That's like the good ole days of dial up | 14:15 |
arrrghhh | heh | 14:15 |
arrrghhh | yea, no joke. | 14:15 |
arrrghhh | 3g isn't so fast on sprint | 14:15 |
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toadlife | I got 2MBit down and 1MBit on T-Mobile in Santa Clara | 14:16 |
arrrghhh | yea i don't get near that | 14:16 |
toadlife | 1Mbit up I mean | 14:16 |
arrrghhh | i've almost hit 1mbit down | 14:16 |
arrrghhh | usually 500k down | 14:16 |
arrrghhh | certainly better than dialup tho | 14:18 |
arrrghhh | food time, brb | 14:19 |
toadlife | That's not really not that bad. I usuallt get 600K down on T-Mobile in Fresno. Santa Clara speeds were faster. The Hyatt I was staying used T-Mobile as their wireless provider, so I'm thinking they had a tower very close. No matter where I went in the hotel I got four bars. | 14:19 |
toadlife | My coworkers who use At&T could hardly get a signal. Lots of iphone users walkiong around saying, "can you hear me?" | 14:20 |
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arrrghhh | heh, how is that unlike anywhere else? | 14:29 |
toadlife | heh | 14:34 |
toadlife | At&T service is actually pretty good out here in the hinterlands wher I live. It must be jsut the urbana areas where it sucks | 14:35 |
toadlife | I am SOOOOOO bummed about At&T buying t-mo | 14:35 |
arrrghhh | well att has a saturation issue AFAIK | 14:36 |
arrrghhh | so yea, that makes sense. | 14:36 |
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arrrghhh | meh, i'm bummed clearwire seems to be going the way of the dodo | 14:36 |
toadlife | not familiar with them | 14:37 |
* toadlife Googles clearwire | 14:37 | |
toadlife | Wireless ISP | 14:37 |
arrrghhh | really? | 14:37 |
arrrghhh | they have a pretty tight partnership with Sprint | 14:38 |
toadlife | Been a t-Mo customer for 10 years | 14:38 |
arrrghhh | they're the true provider behind wimax | 14:38 |
arrrghhh | i'm sorry | 14:38 |
arrrghhh | :P | 14:38 |
toadlife | And at home, been with SBC/At&T forever | 14:38 |
arrrghhh | actually all the carriers suck. sprint is just dirt cheap for me, so i'll stick with them. | 14:39 |
toadlife | I actually like t-mobile. 3g coverage would be nice, but price is the most important thing for me | 14:39 |
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toadlife | We have two lines, both with grandfathered unlimited data for $140 a month. We shopped around and no other provider could come close. | 14:40 |
arrrghhh | heh | 14:40 |
arrrghhh | tmo = teenage carrier | 14:41 |
arrrghhh | perhaps they've grown up some | 14:41 |
toadlife | whatevaaa! | 14:41 |
arrrghhh | but back in the day, all they cared about was having the newest phones. | 14:41 |
arrrghhh | service blew donkey balls | 14:41 |
arrrghhh | but hey, you had a blingin new phone! | 14:41 |
toadlife | I never had a smartphone on t-moible until the wing | 14:41 |
toadlife | before that we had dump bar phones | 14:42 |
toadlife | dumb | 14:42 |
arrrghhh | yea | 14:42 |
arrrghhh | i didn't get a smartphone until i moved to sprint | 14:42 |
arrrghhh | and i wouldn't have gotten one if i didn't get free unlimited data | 14:42 |
toadlife | The Wing was huge POS. Has like 32MB of ram. By the time you booted up, you had 12MB free | 14:42 |
arrrghhh | i don't see what the point would be to a smartphone w/o a data plan. | 14:42 |
arrrghhh | lol | 14:42 |
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arrrghhh | lol | 15:58 |
arrrghhh | sounds like it died several times there cap'n | 15:58 |
toadlife | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537149 | 15:58 |
toadlife | Screen never died. It just got scratched. Buttons went out from me mashing them playing NES emulator | 15:59 |
arrrghhh | wtf, there's no pic | 16:00 |
arrrghhh | probably my stupid proxy @ work | 16:00 |
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arrrghhh | stupid phone died again, hrm. | 16:36 |
arrrghhh | perhaps it's a sign - i shouldn't be on IRC @ work :P | 16:36 |
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toadlife | heh | 16:49 |
hyc | hmm. wistilt2 says all his patches are already in? but autobuild kernel doesn't wake as fast, and has poorer battery life | 16:53 |
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emwe | perhaps he should compare his tree the old way via diffs | 16:54 |
emwe | hi btw .. | 16:54 |
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hyc | howdy | 17:02 |
hyc | also autobuild kernel still has a lot of failed wakes for me, his test kernel doesn't | 17:03 |
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emwe | hyc: as you confirmed differences, could you ask on the ml wis doing a classic diff against autobuild tree to see what changes are left? | 17:08 |
hyc | ok | 17:08 |
emwe | hm, i whonder.... have his msm_fb changes been commmited? | 17:08 |
emwe | unsure... | 17:08 |
toadlife | no way wistilt2's patches are in autobuild. | 17:08 |
toadlife | The autobuild kernel is slow to wake and button lists don't work | 17:08 |
toadlife | button lights | 17:09 |
emwe | hm, i remember some mails with patches to the ml. | 17:09 |
hyc | hm you're right, button lights was emailed march 30 | 17:14 |
hyc | and apparently deferred because folks thought userland should control it | 17:15 |
toadlife | I see. There are some issues with the lights. They come on when the phone is asleep and never turn of until the phone exists sleep. | 17:16 |
toadlife | *exits* | 17:16 |
toadlife | sheesh | 17:16 |
hyc | on his test kernel? | 17:16 |
toadlife | yeah | 17:16 |
hyc | I don't remember that happening... | 17:17 |
toadlife | If you press the back and end buttons at the same time | 17:17 |
hyc | why would you press them atthe same time? | 17:17 |
toadlife | Accident? It happens from time to time when the phone is in my belt-clip case | 17:17 |
toadlife | I noticed the lights being on after I would bend over and finally realized what was causing it. | 17:18 |
hyc | weird | 17:19 |
Dweezahr | Both new rootfs do not work on rhodium 100, I cannot get any service of the telecom provider | 17:31 |
Dweezahr | 20110502-2225f02.zip and rootfs-20110501-4f3d39d | 17:31 |
hyc | Dweezahr: you should get some logs then | 17:32 |
Dweezahr | with alogcat? | 17:32 |
hyc | yes | 17:32 |
Dweezahr | all these version are compiled as production ready or as debug? | 17:33 |
hyc | work in progress | 17:33 |
hyc | there are more patches that still need to go in | 17:33 |
Dweezahr | hyc, phone is booting, but does the error code "cannot create Key Socket" ring any bells? | 17:34 |
Dweezahr | I am trying to get past this error to get vpn working | 17:35 |
Dweezahr | I have compiled android on my debian system now | 17:35 |
Dweezahr | and I am going to compare it with xdandroid to see where raccoon stops working, which kernel module it is trying to load | 17:35 |
hyc | no, sorry, doesn't sound familiar | 17:35 |
hyc | and I haven't tried anything with VPN | 17:35 |
Dweezahr | suddenly the 3g starts working | 17:38 |
Dweezahr | but there are tethering error everywhere | 17:39 |
hyc | which error? | 17:39 |
Dweezahr | the same as always | 17:39 |
hyc | (ignoring) ? | 17:39 |
Dweezahr | E/tethering( 1331): attempting to remove unknown iface (usb0), ignoring | 17:40 |
Dweezahr | yes | 17:40 |
hyc | yeah, that's always there | 17:40 |
Dweezahr | because usb is not connected | 17:40 |
hyc | the battery driver is talking too much | 17:40 |
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bael | hello | 17:49 |
bael | is gingerbread avaliable for galaxy s? | 17:50 |
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Dweezahr | hyc, 'if ((so = socket(PF_KEY, SOCK_RAW, PF_KEY_V2)) , 0) {__ipsec_set_strerror(strerror(errno)); return -1; } | 18:01 |
Dweezahr | and that is what causes the cannot create Key Socket error | 18:01 |
hyc | sounds like a kernel issue then | 18:01 |
bael | someone uses galaxy s here? =) | 18:02 |
Dweezahr | yes, there is a module missing i guess | 18:02 |
Dweezahr | libipsec is this software called | 18:02 |
hyc | bael: no | 18:02 |
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Dweezahr | bael, http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Supported_Devices | 18:02 |
Dweezahr | hmm | 18:02 |
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Dweezahr | I have compiled the android os 2.2.1 on linux, debian with emulator, and there it simply initiates, no time to test it, because I am on the Lan of the vpn, and am Nat-t | 18:03 |
hyc | yeah, PF_KEY sockets is not enabled in our kernel config | 18:04 |
Dweezahr | what does the pf mean? I only know packet filter of BSD | 18:04 |
hyc | it can be built as a module, but is not right now. | 18:04 |
hyc | PF means Protocol Family | 18:05 |
Dweezahr | and building it as a module adds it to the modules-2.6.27.4 file? | 18:05 |
hyc | yeah | 18:06 |
Dweezahr | Can this be configured when building from source? | 18:06 |
Dweezahr | then I can try fixing this on my own | 18:06 |
hyc | when building the kernel yes | 18:06 |
Dweezahr | I like linux | 18:06 |
Dweezahr | thanks for the help | 18:08 |
hyc | no prob | 18:10 |
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toadlife | Hey arrrghhh. hows the phone working' :D | 18:41 |
arrrghhh | like poop | 18:41 |
toadlife | heh | 18:41 |
arrrghhh | it's never drained while usb tethering | 18:42 |
arrrghhh | gonna give it some AC juice | 18:42 |
arrrghhh | hopefully nurse it back to health :P | 18:42 |
hyc | well, I just merged wistilt2's patches from the mailing list into my kernel tree. gonna see how that behaves | 18:49 |
arrrghhh | sweet | 18:49 |
hyc | and I switched the LED states, solid green for wakelock, blinking green for full sleep :P | 18:50 |
arrrghhh | yea i don't know why his 4/14 patch didn't make it | 18:50 |
arrrghhh | the other stuff i think someone questioned... probably phh :P | 18:50 |
phh | mmm ? | 18:50 |
arrrghhh | ah, yea i remember you sayin that's how you wanted it | 18:50 |
arrrghhh | to each their own | 18:50 |
arrrghhh | phh, heh, wistilt2's patches | 18:50 |
arrrghhh | from march? | 18:50 |
arrrghhh | i think mar 30/31 he said. | 18:50 |
phh | yeah well they are totally ugly, and ? | 18:51 |
arrrghhh | i'm of no authority to say they're ugly | 18:51 |
hyc | unfortunately his pm patch conflicts with jonpry's Apr 12 patch | 18:51 |
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arrrghhh | phh, we're just discussing the situation, not necessarily the merit of your decision to not include it. | 18:52 |
arrrghhh | but i guess a lot of people have been spamming wistilt2 with crap on why he doesn't have a public tree etc - i assume you saw his ML post? | 18:52 |
phh | i'm only an adviser now ... | 18:52 |
hyc | I haven't figured out yet if jonpry's patches were just to fix something that wistilt2's patch would have already fixed or not | 18:52 |
phh | i'm not the only one with commits rights you know | 18:53 |
arrrghhh | i know | 18:53 |
phh | and i'm no longer in position to threatens anyone of anything in case of commits I disagree with | 18:54 |
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arrrghhh | heh | 18:57 |
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hyc | seems to work so far | 19:07 |
arrrghhh | yea i'm not sure what makes his commits ugly | 19:09 |
arrrghhh | but from a user perspective, they work. | 19:09 |
arrrghhh | as everyone knows, his test kernels are used... quite extensively. | 19:09 |
hyc | ok, hist buttonlights patch is ugly | 19:09 |
arrrghhh | oh | 19:10 |
hyc | dmesg shows a lot of complaints, calling a sleeping function from invalid context | 19:10 |
arrrghhh | yea that shouldn't be in kernel anyways | 19:10 |
arrrghhh | we just need to control the button lights, userland should tell the kernel what state they should be in | 19:10 |
arrrghhh | just like the caps/fn led's | 19:10 |
arrrghhh | he knew that... | 19:10 |
hyc | I guess. I'd have to check and see how the G1 does it. | 19:10 |
hyc | if it's in userland, then the code should exist already | 19:11 |
hyc | should've gotten F22 to test cam, that rhod210 has AUO panel | 19:12 |
arrrghhh | i thought it showed up as some special version tho | 19:12 |
arrrghhh | not the 'standard' AUO panel on the 100 | 19:13 |
hyc | oh | 19:13 |
hyc | dunno | 19:13 |
arrrghhh | so auo = 13 | 19:13 |
arrrghhh | and f22 said it showed as panel type 7 or something wacky lol | 19:13 |
arrrghhh | F22, have you tested cam on your 210? | 19:13 |
arrrghhh | he hasn't really mentioned anything about it. | 19:13 |
arrrghhh | i don't think he's putting it to good use at all :P | 19:14 |
arrrghhh | bbl | 19:14 |
hyc | hmm, my kernel died | 19:14 |
hyc | looks like I botched that pm patch | 19:14 |
phh | arrrghhh: what makes most wistilt's patches ugly are that they are modifying files, where the code shouldn't belong to, and are totally rhod-centric, and seem mostly unlikely to work on other phones | 19:15 |
phh | (there is also one that just delete locks without any other justification than "it works") | 19:16 |
hyc | yeah I remember that... | 19:16 |
toadlife | So you guys are going to have to figure out how to rewrite his patches. | 19:17 |
toadlife | stovepipe | 19:18 |
toadlife | rube goldberg | 19:18 |
toadlife | chewing gum duct tape | 19:18 |
phh | again, i seem to be the only one to think that way, so other devs are allowed to push wistilt's changes | 19:19 |
phh | and i haven't time to make proper patches, that's why i never actually say no | 19:19 |
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lolmeister | hello,,, anybody there? | 20:33 |
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jcmsVEN | hello | 22:09 |
jcmsVEN | one more time | 22:09 |
jcmsVEN | nobody.... | 22:10 |
jcmsVEN | Hello World | 22:12 |
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jcmsVEN | hi | 22:14 |
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jcmsVEN | ... | 22:16 |
stinebd | if you don't have something to say, keep quiet | 22:17 |
stinebd | stop saying hi over and over | 22:18 |
jcmsVEN | I'm trying to use XDAntroid on my HTC TP2 Rhod500 CDMA | 22:19 |
jcmsVEN | It boots fine but freezes after that... | 22:19 |
jcmsVEN | I have read and apply instructions on FAQ and How to Fix freezes on TP2 | 22:20 |
jcmsVEN | but it doesn't work | 22:21 |
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arrrghhh | jcmsVEN: have you tried the updated RIL and rootfs/ | 23:08 |
hyc | if he followed the "Fix Freezes" post he should have those already | 23:09 |
arrrghhh | you'd think so | 23:09 |
hyc | heh. ok, never assume ..... | 23:12 |
arrrghhh | lol | 23:12 |
arrrghhh | i assumed one of my co-workers did their job | 23:12 |
arrrghhh | and my boss pointed out that i should never assume | 23:12 |
toadlife | You do tech support at work arrrghhh? | 23:12 |
arrrghhh | and i wanted to be like wtf... | 23:12 |
arrrghhh | toadlife: sorta | 23:12 |
arrrghhh | a lot of my work is project-based | 23:13 |
arrrghhh | but a good part is tier 2 for more technical issues the monkey's can't handle | 23:13 |
arrrghhh | (i used to be one of the monkey's in fact :D) | 23:13 |
toadlife | Then they realized you were one of the smart monkeys. ;) | 23:13 |
arrrghhh | heh | 23:13 |
toadlife | Yeah, I've done that dance too. :) | 23:13 |
arrrghhh | yea | 23:13 |
arrrghhh | a little more specialized | 23:14 |
arrrghhh | not resetting passwords anymore | 23:14 |
arrrghhh | not answering phones non-stop, which is really nice. | 23:14 |
arrrghhh | but yea. assumed one of my co-workers who had been there for a long ass time checked things thoroughly. | 23:15 |
arrrghhh | they didn't... | 23:15 |
arrrghhh | moral of the story - never assume. i never trust users, but i guess i shouldn't even trust mah dang co-workers. | 23:15 |
toadlife | Anyway, re tech support, lusers are notorious for *claiming* they followed the directions | 23:15 |
toadlife | yeah | 23:16 |
arrrghhh | oh yea | 23:16 |
arrrghhh | but my co-workers, usually don't have to double-check their work. | 23:16 |
arrrghhh | oh well. | 23:16 |
toadlife | I'm allways cleaning up after my coworkers | 23:16 |
arrrghhh | this person does notoriously cut-corners, so yea... i should've known. | 23:16 |
arrrghhh | heh | 23:16 |
arrrghhh | i used to, i don't do that nearly as much since i moved up. | 23:16 |
toadlife | Well...one in particular | 23:16 |
arrrghhh | lol | 23:16 |
arrrghhh | yea, there was one that i cleaned up A LOT after | 23:16 |
toadlife | There is allways that ONE' | 23:17 |
arrrghhh | and now i don't work in anything even closely related to him. | 23:17 |
toadlife | in every org ;P | 23:17 |
arrrghhh | i think the management knew i didn't like him... he doesn't like me, i make him look bad :D | 23:17 |
toadlife | It's like the midas touch, only everything they touch turns to shit instead of gold. | 23:18 |
toadlife | Our guy is actually a really nice guy. I like him. Don't begrudge him. He tries really hard. We just work around him and make up good docs for him to follow. | 23:20 |
toadlife | Do you work in a large org with a huge IT dept? Our IT dept is four dudes, all ahve to wear many hats. | 23:22 |
arrrghhh | yea i wear many hats | 23:23 |
arrrghhh | but our IT is pretty big | 23:23 |
arrrghhh | we're a fairly large org i guess..... about 2,000 employees | 23:24 |
arrrghhh | in network services we have like 30 people i'd say. that's help desk, support, data/voice, client services, core infrastructre... | 23:24 |
toadlife | heh | 23:28 |
arrrghhh | my team (data/voice) is like 6 people. | 23:28 |
toadlife | He like I said we have four dudes. 3.5 if you count the dumb one properly. We also have a part time network guy, who somehow keeps the network going. | 23:31 |
arrrghhh | lol | 23:31 |
toadlife | A college with 500 employees and 7000 FTE - small. | 23:31 |
arrrghhh | we've got a few dedicated to the network side of things | 23:31 |
arrrghhh | ah | 23:32 |
toadlife | jeebus. I just got a SOD on my phone | 23:34 |
toadlife | ..ooh. | 23:34 |
toadlife | and a spontaneous reboot! | 23:34 |
toadlife | oh my | 23:34 |
arrrghhh | eh? | 23:34 |
arrrghhh | heh | 23:34 |
toadlife | Happend when I plugged the phone into the USB | 23:34 |
arrrghhh | nice | 23:34 |
arrrghhh | someone told me earlier their moto phone did that to them today | 23:35 |
arrrghhh | kernel panic from plugging in usb | 23:35 |
toadlife | I installed the latest kernel, rootfs and was going to test tethering | 23:35 |
arrrghhh | heh | 23:35 |
arrrghhh | oh right i should test that on linux now that i'm home | 23:35 |
arrrghhh | it'll probably just work | 23:35 |
arrrghhh | but i want it to work when i'm @ work! | 23:35 |
toadlife | Tethering at work to get around proxys? :P | 23:36 |
arrrghhh | perhaps | 23:36 |
arrrghhh | :P | 23:36 |
toadlife | haha | 23:36 |
arrrghhh | i've used IRC for work-related purposes | 23:36 |
toadlife | None of that nonsesnsea t my work thank goodness. Just a nice fat GB pipe out to the net | 23:36 |
arrrghhh | but i can't say it's typical lately heh | 23:36 |
arrrghhh | yea, most places i've worked at that's not the case | 23:37 |
arrrghhh | but we're a bank | 23:37 |
toadlife | Yeah | 23:37 |
arrrghhh | and the stupid tellers... yea | 23:37 |
arrrghhh | they'll click on anything. | 23:37 |
toadlife | Yeah our network guy has done a bunch of contracting for banks | 23:37 |
arrrghhh | we're not huge | 23:38 |
arrrghhh | especially compared to wells or bank of america chase etc | 23:38 |
toadlife | As opposed to schools, where security is an abstract concept I hear they actually pay a bit of attention to it at banks? | 23:38 |
arrrghhh | lol | 23:38 |
arrrghhh | we're extremely cautious | 23:38 |
arrrghhh | we have an ironport system | 23:38 |
arrrghhh | email scanning on multiple levels | 23:38 |
arrrghhh | NO usb keys/hdd's allowed - at all | 23:39 |
arrrghhh | most PC's they won't even work on | 23:39 |
toadlife | Yeah, when I first got here I was all into security, but I all but gave up. People ghere (and at schools in general) don;'t give a rats ass about security. | 23:39 |
arrrghhh | yea | 23:40 |
arrrghhh | data integrity is kinda the core of our business tho | 23:40 |
arrrghhh | not so much at schools :P | 23:40 |
toadlife | no. herding bodies into class in order to maximize FTE's is the business of schools | 23:40 |
arrrghhh | yea | 23:40 |
hyc | probably need this kernel patch http://lists.xdandroid.com/pipermail/xdandroid-dev/2011-May/000183.html | 23:41 |
hyc | the USB patch seems to trigger at bad times | 23:41 |
arrrghhh | ah is that the one that allows USB to wake the device on plug? | 23:42 |
hyc | no, this one fixes my patch | 23:42 |
arrrghhh | oic | 23:42 |
hyc | apparently that code path was calling sleep inside an interrupt routine | 23:42 |
hyc | never a good thing... | 23:42 |
arrrghhh | heh | 23:42 |
hyc | course it didn't do anything bad on my phone, just littered dmesg with complaints | 23:43 |
hyc | hmmm. on my kernels the 3G data icon never changes to show traffic | 23:44 |
hyc | works fine on wis's kernel | 23:44 |
hyc | are you on an autobuild now? does the icon show traffic for you? | 23:44 |
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arrrghhh | yes i am | 23:48 |
arrrghhh | and yes it shows traffic | 23:48 |
hyc | hm | 23:48 |
hyc | weird | 23:48 |
hyc | I guess there's something different in my kernel config | 23:48 |
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arrrghhh | weird that the kernel controls that | 23:52 |
arrrghhh | i assume data is working, it's just not indicating traffic? | 23:52 |
hyc | yep, working fine | 23:53 |
arrrghhh | odd | 23:53 |
arrrghhh | that's kernel-related? | 23:53 |
hyc | has to be :P that's the only thing that changes | 23:54 |
hyc | if I swap kernels out, the icon works | 23:54 |
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arrrghhh | really weird... | 23:58 |
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toadlife | So tethering is so supposed to work?? | 23:58 |
toadlife | Doesn't work on WIndows 7 here | 23:59 |
arrrghhh | on linux it prob works fine | 23:59 |
hyc | supposed to, yes. works here on Linux | 23:59 |
arrrghhh | win needs drivers | 23:59 |
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hyc | none of you are testing on linux? | 23:59 |
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