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arrrghhh | hyc: i'm home now, haven't tested here | 00:00 |
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arrrghhh | i guess i'll test it here on linux, but i kinda need it to work on winblows :P | 00:09 |
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toadlife | Linux fucking sucks as a desktop | 00:10 |
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arrrghhh | i don't know why | 00:10 |
arrrghhh | i mean flash support i guess... | 00:10 |
arrrghhh | meh | 00:10 |
arrrghhh | i need winblows for work tho | 00:11 |
arrrghhh | i don't really have a choice there | 00:11 |
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arrrghhh | and until i can get a rig powerful enough to virtualize windows... | 00:11 |
arrrghhh | kinda stuck running it natively. i run linux tho most of the time, unless i need to login to my pc at work. | 00:11 |
arrrghhh | usb tethering error | 00:13 |
arrrghhh | wtf | 00:13 |
arrrghhh | i guess i need to reboot the phone | 00:13 |
hyc | weird | 00:13 |
hyc | got a logcat? | 00:13 |
arrrghhh | bah | 00:14 |
arrrghhh | rebooting :P | 00:14 |
hyc | oh well | 00:14 |
arrrghhh | i like to rule stuff out like that before troubleshooting. | 00:14 |
arrrghhh | well, before digging thru logs that is. | 00:14 |
hyc | heh | 00:14 |
arrrghhh | rebooting would be part of the troubleshooting :P | 00:14 |
arrrghhh | i hate that as a troubleshooting step, but c'est la vie. | 00:15 |
arrrghhh | ohshit | 00:15 |
arrrghhh | i'm on that kernel that emwe threw me this afternoon | 00:15 |
arrrghhh | might have something to do with it... | 00:15 |
toadlife | If logcat doesn;'t work, try a lolcat | 00:16 |
arrrghhh | i assume you know that's the same thing... | 00:16 |
arrrghhh | it's funny they did that | 00:16 |
toadlife | No. I seen you saying that in the logs. Assumed you were make some sort of joke | 00:16 |
toadlife | really? | 00:16 |
hyc | I don't have a lolcat | 00:17 |
arrrghhh | lolcat works | 00:17 |
arrrghhh | what? | 00:17 |
arrrghhh | adb lolcat | 00:17 |
hyc | oh | 00:17 |
toadlife | It's not on the phone | 00:17 |
toadlife | Must be part of adb | 00:17 |
arrrghhh | yea | 00:17 |
hyc | right. the adb command substitutes | 00:17 |
toadlife | silly oss developers! | 00:18 |
arrrghhh | oh google and its easter eggs. | 00:18 |
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toadlife | usb seems to be discharging my battery now | 00:27 |
toadlife | new 5/4 kernel?? | 00:27 |
toadlife | holy shit. I'm wating is OSMonitor. Battery is discharging while connected to USB | 00:29 |
toadlife | *watching* | 00:30 |
toadlife | weird | 00:30 |
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hyc | hm my battery charges fine with usb plugged in | 00:37 |
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arrrghhh | hyc: my battery appeared to be charging | 00:42 |
arrrghhh | but in reality, it wasn't. | 00:42 |
hyc | weird | 00:43 |
arrrghhh | that hit me 2x earlier today... killed mah batt usb tethering. | 00:43 |
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hyc | well right now I'm fully charged | 00:43 |
hyc | and everything agrees with that | 00:44 |
hyc | radiooptions 11 "AT+CBC" | 00:44 |
hyc | also shows 100% | 00:44 |
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arrrghhh | hrm | 00:45 |
arrrghhh | usb tethering error | 00:45 |
arrrghhh | gonna get logs | 00:45 |
arrrghhh | ah crap, i haven't setup this linux install to handle adb. | 00:45 |
hyc | what do you usually use? | 00:45 |
arrrghhh | i wiped this lappy | 00:46 |
hyc | oh | 00:46 |
arrrghhh | one partition is xp | 00:46 |
arrrghhh | one is linux | 00:46 |
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arrrghhh | i've only been using the linux install for a few days now :P still getting it up to snuff. | 00:46 |
toadlife | n00buntu? | 00:47 |
arrrghhh | n00bian? | 00:48 |
toadlife | Installed that on my youngest boys netbook after Windows 7 blowed up. Youtube videos played better under Ubuntu. That was quite a surprise | 00:48 |
toadlife | That "unity" interface it total shit though. | 00:48 |
toadlife | WTF are they thinking | 00:49 |
arrrghhh | you can go back to classic | 00:49 |
arrrghhh | but yea | 00:49 |
arrrghhh | they were thinking 'oh let's merge netbook remix with the desktop edition... everyone will love that!' | 00:49 |
arrrghhh | yeano. | 00:49 |
toadlife | Yeah, I'll take my taskbar thank you | 00:49 |
toadlife | Well I have no idea what drive to install in win7 to get tethering to work | 00:50 |
arrrghhh | dunno | 00:52 |
hyc | i would have thought the driver was shipped with win7 | 00:55 |
toadlife | nope | 00:55 |
hyc | dunnno then. google windows rndis android | 00:55 |
arrrghhh | hyc: i think there's an issue with our build... | 00:56 |
arrrghhh | and how it's identifying itself | 00:56 |
hyc | maybe so | 00:56 |
arrrghhh | cuz i followed the google directions for usb tethering to the T | 00:56 |
arrrghhh | and all the stupid comments with people having issues weren't having mah issue :P | 00:57 |
hyc | have you found any specific directions for g1? | 00:58 |
hyc | cuz it seems to be using the save device id | 00:58 |
hyc | same | 00:58 |
arrrghhh | i'll try searching for g1-specific directions | 00:58 |
toadlife | I have CDC abstract control model in my device manaher | 00:58 |
toadlife | CDC abstract control model (ACM) | 00:59 |
hyc | yeah that's only for usb modem/tty | 00:59 |
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hyc | developer.android.com/sdk/win-usb.html | 01:09 |
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arrrghhh | hyc: didn't see that link at work... | 01:14 |
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hyc | i thought you said you were following google's instructions? | 01:18 |
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hyc | lol @ ppcgeeks | 01:26 |
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toadlife | what about pppcgeeks? | 01:28 |
hyc | some guy there saying "since it looks like we're not going to get a complete android port because of missing linux drivers, why not just port android to run on top of wince?" | 01:32 |
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toadlife_ | well I installed the latest google android usb driver, but tethering isn't working. I'll give it a shot manana. | 01:34 |
toadlife_ | time for beg | 01:34 |
toadlife_ | bed | 01:34 |
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ryannathans | So many differences between test kernel and autobuild, I don't know what one to go for now xD | 06:46 |
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ryannathans | I think I will take test kernel due to better battery life. | 06:46 |
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D3tul3 | hyc: you already know this, but here is another confirmation that usb tethering works on linux (fedora) | 07:39 |
D3tul3 | on my rhod400 | 07:41 |
hyc | cool | 07:45 |
hyc | I've noticed that we're not quite doing things correctly. | 07:45 |
hyc | on the G1, the phone presents 3 different USB product IDs | 07:45 |
hyc | depending on whether ADB is enabled, or USB mass storage, or RNDIS | 07:46 |
hyc | on XDA, we toss them all together in a single product ID | 07:46 |
hyc | this confuses the Windows drivers, which expect each function to be a different device ID | 07:46 |
hyc | I could probably fix it to behave correctly, but I'm really reluctant to invest any time in the .27 kernel | 07:48 |
ryannathans | sigh, camera testing libs/kernel help my camera problems in no way D: | 07:52 |
hyc | well that's not the point. the point of those test builds is to send useful feedback about what's broken | 07:58 |
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ryannathans | Already done :D | 08:02 |
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valyk | heya all | 08:08 |
valyk | is anybody knowing if will be more further updates of the froyo release ? | 08:09 |
helicopter88 | there will be for sure more updates.. | 08:09 |
valyk | cool | 08:10 |
valyk | sounds very good | 08:10 |
valyk | something else | 08:10 |
valyk | about devices overclocking | 08:10 |
helicopter88 | imho frx07 and newer grx will be really good.. | 08:10 |
valyk | do you know how much clock is raph100 supporting? | 08:11 |
helicopter88 | my diam100 goes up to 690 mhz | 08:11 |
helicopter88 | then hangs.. | 08:11 |
valyk | when will thjose two appear? | 08:11 |
helicopter88 | No one knows | 08:11 |
helicopter88 | devs are working on it.. | 08:11 |
valyk | and | 08:11 |
valyk | which one's better | 08:11 |
valyk | frx or grx | 08:11 |
valyk | ? | 08:11 |
helicopter88 | i use my own,but i like more grx.. | 08:12 |
valyk | grx is based on gingerbread? | 08:12 |
helicopter88 | grx is gingerbread. | 08:12 |
valyk | checked | 08:12 |
valyk | i still preffer froyo till next updates of grx | 08:13 |
valyk | froyo is better optimized for now | 08:13 |
valyk | :D | 08:13 |
helicopter88 | frx07 and grx will have a lot of fixes.. | 08:14 |
valyk | hope so | 08:14 |
valyk | i just can't wait to have a fully optional android just on my sd card of windows phone | 08:14 |
valyk | is like a dream come true | 08:15 |
ryannathans | hey helicopter | 08:15 |
helicopter88 | hey | 08:15 |
ryannathans | where is this news of grx? | 08:15 |
ryannathans | Only thing that is stopping me using gingerbread is gps support.. | 08:15 |
helicopter88 | i don't know about it.. | 08:16 |
valyk | but | 08:16 |
valyk | is gps working on froyo frx 06? | 08:16 |
ryannathans | yes | 08:16 |
helicopter88 | i know that a kernel dev asked to merge something in kernel,but i don't know.. | 08:16 |
valyk | mine's not working | 08:16 |
ryannathans | go to winmo | 08:16 |
ryannathans | run quickgps | 08:16 |
valyk | how did you got it work? | 08:16 |
ryannathans | download latest satelites | 08:16 |
ryannathans | then boot into android | 08:16 |
ryannathans | and it will be much better :d | 08:17 |
valyk | uhm | 08:17 |
ryannathans | make sure it is enable in location and security in settings | 08:17 |
valyk | i see | 08:17 |
valyk | i'll try | 08:17 |
valyk | hope it will work | 08:17 |
valyk | :) | 08:17 |
ryannathans | when satelites expire redownload and they will work fine | 08:17 |
helicopter88 | and make sure that you have a kernel with gps working | 08:17 |
valyk | which one's with the gps working | 08:17 |
ryannathans | latest i guess | 08:18 |
helicopter88 | all the latest should have it working | 08:18 |
helicopter88 | but a good thing may be checking reviews on glemsom's site | 08:18 |
valyk | i have the kernel from 01.05.2011 | 08:18 |
valyk | from msm htc loinux | 08:18 |
valyk | but i'll replace it | 08:18 |
valyk | cause is kinda hungry on battery's life | 08:19 |
helicopter88 | valyk: are you using european date(day/month/year)? | 08:19 |
valyk | yes | 08:19 |
valyk | is there an isue of this? | 08:19 |
helicopter88 | there should be some newer kernels.. | 08:19 |
helicopter88 | no,because i thought about you were using a kernel from january.. | 08:20 |
valyk | oh | 08:20 |
valyk | no | 08:20 |
valyk | is may | 08:20 |
valyk | :) | 08:20 |
helicopter88 | the latest one is from 4/5/11 | 08:21 |
valyk | i'll check the site right now | 08:21 |
valyk | and get the new one | 08:21 |
valyk | to test it | 08:21 |
valyk | 3 pos with 1 negative | 08:22 |
valyk | i guess is because is newer | 08:22 |
helicopter88 | i hope to see soon a .35 kernel,it should bring ext4 support | 08:23 |
valyk | right now i'll put it on my sd | 08:23 |
valyk | and have a run | 08:23 |
valyk | this is kinda linux stuff right? | 08:23 |
helicopter88 | ryannathans: do you know anything about clockworkmod script syntax? | 08:23 |
helicopter88 | valyk: yes,linux stuff,android is based on linux,but we're with a pretty old kernel.. | 08:24 |
valyk | and .35 is newer and combined with ext4 is a bomb.. right? | 08:24 |
helicopter88 | at least on my pc,goes fast :) | 08:25 |
helicopter88 | usually the newer,the better | 08:25 |
valyk | you use ubuntu ? | 08:25 |
valyk | or mint? | 08:25 |
helicopter88 | no,fedora 15,wich now has .38 kernel | 08:25 |
valyk | cool | 08:25 |
valyk | is this working on dualboot with w7? | 08:26 |
ryannathans | you don't want to run anything above ext2 on an sd | 08:26 |
helicopter88 | i have a quad boot,mint,win7,a leaked build of 8,fedora | 08:26 |
valyk | hell yeah | 08:27 |
helicopter88 | but that's off topic.. | 08:27 |
valyk | that's what you can call multiboot | 08:27 |
ryannathans | helicopter88: I wouldn't know about the syntax | 08:27 |
helicopter88 | never mind | 08:27 |
helicopter88 | ryannathans: i'm working on a script that edits rootfs within cwm | 08:28 |
helicopter88 | but my scripts actually deletes only the files,but doesn't place the new one | 08:28 |
ryannathans | gingerbread is smoother than froyo yeah? | 08:28 |
ryannathans | i see | 08:28 |
helicopter88 | ryannathans: imho,ginger is faster. | 08:28 |
helicopter88 | but froyo is more stable.. | 08:32 |
valyk | another q | 08:32 |
valyk | the new android release 3.0 | 08:32 |
valyk | will it be ported | 08:32 |
valyk | or is onlyu for tablets? | 08:33 |
valyk | only | 08:33 |
helicopter88 | it could be ported to our devices | 08:33 |
helicopter88 | but,i don't know about no one working on that. | 08:33 |
valyk | ook | 08:34 |
helicopter88 | *i don't know anything about someone porting about it.. | 08:34 |
helicopter88 | **porting it | 08:34 |
valyk | thanks for helpin' | 08:34 |
valyk | i'm gona test that kernel | 08:34 |
valyk | see what i get | 08:34 |
valyk | lol:) | 08:34 |
helicopter88 | i'll be here,if you need anything.. | 08:35 |
ryannathans | I don't want to see android 3.0 on a rhod. | 08:35 |
helicopter88 | i want to have back my diamond :) | 08:35 |
ryannathans | any idea who is/has/will rewrite gps interface for gingerbread? | 08:36 |
helicopter88 | someone from htc-linux.. | 08:36 |
helicopter88 | maybe jb.. | 08:37 |
valyk | helicopter88 when your overclocked your diamond and it hanged it was reversible? | 08:37 |
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ryannathans | what do you mean reversible? | 08:39 |
ryannathans | reboot and lower clock speed? | 08:39 |
valyk | well | 08:39 |
valyk | if it camed back after restart | 08:39 |
ryannathans | you dont OC winmo.. | 08:39 |
valyk | yes | 08:39 |
valyk | so | 08:40 |
valyk | it hanged just on android boot | 08:40 |
valyk | but when booting win | 08:40 |
valyk | is back? | 08:40 |
ryannathans | rebooting to winmo restores default clock | 08:40 |
valyk | so | 08:40 |
valyk | there's no danger right? | 08:40 |
helicopter88 | no danger | 08:41 |
ryannathans | dont put speed over 690mhz and you are fine. | 08:41 |
ryannathans | your own right. | 08:41 |
valyk | no | 08:41 |
valyk | i thaught about hitting 670mhz | 08:41 |
valyk | now running at 650 | 08:41 |
helicopter88 | you could put it over 690,but it makes everything unstable | 08:41 |
valyk | ook | 08:42 |
valyk | got it | 08:42 |
valyk | thanks again | 08:42 |
helicopter88 | and on my diamond,if i put over 690mhz,haret hunged and had to reboot wm. | 08:42 |
valyk | but is raph having a better processor? | 08:43 |
helicopter88 | idk.. | 08:43 |
valyk | ok | 08:44 |
valyk | gonna see a review or something to find that | 08:44 |
helicopter88 | for me the best speed is 620 | 08:45 |
helicopter88 | a bit faster,more stable.. | 08:45 |
valyk | most stable? | 08:45 |
helicopter88 | more stable for me.. | 08:45 |
valyk | ok | 08:45 |
valyk | as i said before | 08:45 |
valyk | i run at 650 | 08:45 |
valyk | and no problems | 08:46 |
valyk | no warming of battery | 08:46 |
valyk | or something | 08:46 |
helicopter88 | diam overheats pretty easily | 08:46 |
helicopter88 | so 620 is the best for me | 08:46 |
valyk | best means longer life | 08:47 |
helicopter88 | but i hardly never use oc | 08:47 |
valyk | oc- overclock? | 08:48 |
helicopter88 | yes | 08:48 |
valyk | so | 08:48 |
valyk | oc eats more battery ? | 08:49 |
helicopter88 | not a lot | 08:49 |
helicopter88 | unless you oc to high speeds | 08:49 |
helicopter88 | i think between 528(default) and 620,there isn't a lot of differencies | 08:49 |
helicopter88 | but i've never tested battery life.. | 08:49 |
valyk | ok | 08:50 |
valyk | understood | 08:50 |
valyk | and you still have your diam or you got another dev? | 08:52 |
helicopter88 | my diam has broken | 08:52 |
helicopter88 | send it to a friend whom repairs phones.. | 08:52 |
valyk | why so? | 08:52 |
helicopter88 | i hope to have it back soon.. | 08:52 |
valyk | broken on software or hardware? | 08:53 |
helicopter88 | hardware | 08:53 |
helicopter88 | i know how to fix software things :) | 08:53 |
valyk | cool | 08:54 |
valyk | and about rom updates | 08:54 |
valyk | in win mo | 08:54 |
valyk | if process fails | 08:54 |
helicopter88 | i cook'd my own rom,but it wasn't so fast.. | 08:54 |
valyk | and phone bricked | 08:54 |
valyk | what could it be done? | 08:54 |
helicopter88 | maybe you could try with task29 | 08:55 |
helicopter88 | and flash again.. | 08:55 |
valyk | so | 08:55 |
valyk | there's no danger of losing the device? | 08:55 |
valyk | i'm kinda noob | 08:55 |
valyk | on win mo devices | 08:55 |
helicopter88 | there's danger to lose the device | 08:55 |
valyk | i just got my raph | 08:55 |
ryannathans | no. | 08:56 |
helicopter88 | but if you use a good cable and follow everything | 08:56 |
ryannathans | use the spl | 08:56 |
ryannathans | if a flash goes wrong just reflash another rom | 08:56 |
helicopter88 | right,then no chances of bricking | 08:56 |
ryannathans | and your good to go | 08:56 |
valyk | i have energy rom flashed on it | 08:56 |
valyk | so | 08:56 |
valyk | no need for reflashing hardspl | 08:56 |
ryannathans | only ever flash hardspl once | 08:56 |
ryannathans | and your good forever. | 08:56 |
ryannathans | no chance of bricking (except flashing radios) | 08:57 |
valyk | and radio flash is different form a rom to other? | 08:57 |
valyk | or is no need to flash radio? | 08:58 |
helicopter88 | if you have a good radio(good signal,no small problems)no need to flash.. | 09:00 |
ryannathans | flashing radio is your GSM/CDMA radio | 09:00 |
valyk | and about roms | 09:02 |
helicopter88 | i never flash radio,unless is needed for a rom | 09:02 |
valyk | which one's the best? | 09:02 |
helicopter88 | valyk: i'm with sense 2.1 + wm 6.1 | 09:03 |
helicopter88 | light,to boot android faster | 09:03 |
valyk | i'm running 6.5 with sense 2.2 | 09:03 |
valyk | energy rom | 09:03 |
helicopter88 | i used energy rom for a long time | 09:04 |
valyk | but i have some things that i don't like | 09:04 |
valyk | something like losing tf 3d when flipping phone on photos tab and same on music | 09:05 |
valyk | i don't know why | 09:05 |
valyk | but it dissappears | 09:05 |
valyk | and when i'm using cookie's hotkeys for home screen | 09:06 |
valyk | i get a graphical isue | 09:06 |
valyk | the wallpaper for the tabs is not alligned | 09:07 |
valyk | and i get a black line on menus | 09:07 |
valyk | but nevermind | 09:08 |
valyk | have you tried tael rom? | 09:08 |
valyk | is it better than energy | 09:08 |
valyk | or is almost the same? | 09:08 |
helicopter88 | tael isn't for diamond :) | 09:10 |
valyk | so | 09:11 |
valyk | only for raph | 09:11 |
helicopter88 | yes.. | 09:11 |
helicopter88 | rom are only for a phone.. | 09:12 |
helicopter88 | you can't flash diam rom on raph | 09:12 |
valyk | i guess is better optimized on raph than energy | 09:12 |
valyk | i think i'm gonna try it | 09:12 |
valyk | and for updating | 09:14 |
valyk | is better to use ruu | 09:14 |
helicopter88 | I'm not a wm expert,but finding a best rom is hard | 09:14 |
helicopter88 | *the best rom | 09:14 |
valyk | or that type of flash with phone combinations? | 09:14 |
helicopter88 | i flash from internal storage(sd-card) with that combination.. | 09:15 |
valyk | phone keys i mean :) | 09:15 |
valyk | and the sd card shoul be empty when updating? | 09:15 |
helicopter88 | No | 09:16 |
valyk | and when updating.. could the process fail? | 09:17 |
ryannathans | no? | 09:17 |
ryannathans | updating what | 09:17 |
helicopter88 | if you have a lot of bad luck,yes | 09:18 |
valyk | updating or flashing a rom | 09:18 |
helicopter88 | you shouldn't have any problem when flashing from the phone. | 09:18 |
valyk | but | 09:19 |
valyk | when flashing from a pc | 09:19 |
valyk | what problems can appeaR? | 09:19 |
helicopter88 | neither | 09:19 |
helicopter88 | but if you have a lot of bad luck | 09:19 |
ryannathans | might bump cable>? | 09:19 |
valyk | SO IS SAME SAFER | 09:19 |
valyk | BUT TAKES A BIT MORE TIME | 09:19 |
ryannathans | this really isnt the place to discuss this. | 09:19 |
ryannathans | sd is faster. | 09:19 |
valyk | ok | 09:19 |
valyk | boss | 09:19 |
valyk | topic closed | 09:20 |
valyk | :) | 09:20 |
valyk | thanks for answering my questions | 09:20 |
ryannathans | no problems. anything android related then it can stay. | 09:20 |
helicopter88 | we're here to help | 09:20 |
helicopter88 | (android help) | 09:20 |
valyk | i put on my phone the newest kernel | 09:21 |
valyk | from 4/5/11 | 09:21 |
valyk | it looks good till now | 09:21 |
valyk | looks stable | 09:21 |
valyk | uhm | 09:23 |
valyk | looks like i have another question | 09:23 |
valyk | how can i enable live wallpapers on android | 09:23 |
valyk | ? | 09:23 |
ryannathans | dont. | 09:23 |
ryannathans | not worth it. | 09:23 |
ryannathans | too much performace drain | 09:24 |
helicopter88 | you need 2 apks and you'd be done | 09:24 |
valyk | i would like to try it | 09:24 |
valyk | to see how's working | 09:24 |
valyk | what apks do i need? | 09:25 |
helicopter88 | livewallpaper.apk | 09:25 |
helicopter88 | livewallpaperpicker.apk | 09:25 |
valyk | just installing them as normall apps? | 09:28 |
helicopter88 | them should install | 09:28 |
helicopter88 | but if them doesn't | 09:28 |
helicopter88 | you should push them to system | 09:28 |
valyk | how to do it? | 09:29 |
helicopter88 | you have to open froyo.user.conf | 09:29 |
helicopter88 | and add in the end mount --bind livewallpaper.apk /system/app/livewallpaper.apk | 09:29 |
helicopter88 | and the same for picker | 09:30 |
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valyk | so | 09:30 |
valyk | just editting whit nptepad or what? | 09:30 |
heli_away | notepad | 09:30 |
valyk | with* | 09:30 |
valyk | sorry if there are errors | 09:30 |
valyk | i'm romanian | 09:30 |
valyk | ok | 09:31 |
valyk | let's see what we've got | 09:31 |
ryannathans | move livewallpaper.apk to /system/app/ with astro? | 09:32 |
ryannathans | dont need to bind | 09:32 |
ryannathans | and you are rooted so doesnt matter | 09:32 |
ryannathans | only on new build it will be reset | 09:32 |
valyk | so | 09:34 |
valyk | if i put them in system/app | 09:34 |
valyk | will they auto install? | 09:35 |
ryannathans | you dont need to edit that file with notepad if you do that | 09:35 |
valyk | and | 09:35 |
ryannathans | -.- | 09:35 |
valyk | this can also be done for a market update? | 09:35 |
valyk | cause i tried all the ways to install a new market | 09:36 |
valyk | but won't let me | 09:36 |
valyk | even from sd | 09:36 |
ryannathans | you need to replace the /systen/app/vending.apk | 09:37 |
ryannathans | to update market. | 09:37 |
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valyk | ok | 09:38 |
valyk | i installed those ones for live wall | 09:38 |
valyk | but | 09:38 |
valyk | i get the error | 09:38 |
valyk | android live wallpapers has stopped | 09:39 |
valyk | process | 09:39 |
ryannathans | meh, idk then | 09:40 |
ryannathans | never used | 09:40 |
valyk | ok | 09:40 |
valyk | ook | 09:42 |
valyk | gotta go | 09:42 |
valyk | have a nice day | 09:42 |
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arrrghhh | hyc, ping. i found an oddity in my lolcat | 14:57 |
arrrghhh | 05-05 12:50:08.140 I//system/bin/iptables( 1412): iptables v1.3.7: can't initialize iptables table `filter': iptables who? (do you need to insmod?)05-05 12:50:08.140 I//system/bin/iptables( 1412): Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded. | 14:57 |
arrrghhh | bleh, sorry for the jumble, pastebin comin | 14:57 |
arrrghhh | http://pastebin.com/mezcGD4z | 14:58 |
arrrghhh | emwe, you thar? | 14:58 |
arrrghhh | i've got gooooood news for you. | 14:58 |
arrrghhh | hyc, here's the jist of the problem (i think): iptables v1.3.7: can't initialize iptables table `filter': iptables who? (do you need to insmod?) | 14:59 |
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emwe | arrrghhh: ping | 15:24 |
arrrghhh | yo | 15:37 |
arrrghhh | so i got a PM last night, another RHOD400 donor :D | 15:37 |
arrrghhh | he said the screen is a little worse for wear... but it's fully functional heh. | 15:38 |
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emwe | arrrghhh: worse for wear? | 15:39 |
emwe | ah i see ;) | 15:39 |
arrrghhh | I now have a spare Sprint TP2 that's kind of beat up (fully functional, just major screen scratches) | 15:40 |
arrrghhh | ^^ quote from the PM | 15:40 |
emwe | major screen scratches not on the protective foil i guess ;) | 15:40 |
emwe | like the raph here. | 15:40 |
arrrghhh | he might not have put a screen protector on it... | 15:40 |
arrrghhh | i don't know why you wouldn't, but hey. | 15:40 |
emwe | hmhmhmhm. i'd intended it to be the main phone then not just a tool testing on. | 15:44 |
emwe | depends on how serious the screen is scratched | 15:44 |
emwe | do i sound unthankful? hopefully not. | 15:47 |
arrrghhh | lol | 15:48 |
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arrrghhh | well i guess let me ask you | 15:48 |
arrrghhh | do you still want it? | 15:48 |
arrrghhh | i responded, but generically. | 15:48 |
arrrghhh | i can certainly see if another dev would want it | 15:49 |
emwe | i'd even pay for an unscratched one. damnit. | 15:49 |
arrrghhh | to be fair, it is a free donation device... | 15:49 |
arrrghhh | lol | 15:49 |
arrrghhh | well i guess that's your call then mang. | 15:49 |
emwe | oh man. i sound like an asshole. sorry | 15:50 |
arrrghhh | nah i know how you feel | 15:50 |
arrrghhh | you want a phone as a daily driver | 15:50 |
emwe | i'd have happily thrown my unscratched topaz away. | 15:50 |
arrrghhh | lol | 15:50 |
hyc | arrrghhh: sounds like you're missing some modprobes | 15:50 |
arrrghhh | hyc, but why guy? | 15:50 |
hyc | i fixed this in /bin/netd in my rootfs | 15:51 |
arrrghhh | ah | 15:51 |
arrrghhh | i think i am running some bastardized rootfs | 15:51 |
arrrghhh | is the newest from autobuild good or...? | 15:51 |
hyc | dunno, lemme take a peek | 15:52 |
arrrghhh | k thx | 15:52 |
hyc | here's mine https://gitorious.org/~hyc/xdandroid/hycs-rootfs/blobs/master/bin/netd | 15:52 |
arrrghhh | wtf proxy | 15:53 |
arrrghhh | site blocked? gitorious? man, this company is getting so freakin strict. | 15:53 |
hyc | do an lsmod and paste that | 15:55 |
arrrghhh | heh | 15:55 |
arrrghhh | ramzswap and xvmalloc are the only two | 15:55 |
arrrghhh | http://pastebin.com/L2EZmRHM | 15:56 |
hyc | that's really weird | 15:56 |
hyc | you should at least have the ip_tables module, even the original rootfs loads that | 15:56 |
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arrrghhh | hmmm | 15:58 |
arrrghhh | i think i'm still on that test rootfs stine threw at me | 15:58 |
hyc | http://pastebin.com/ycrN6eJL | 15:58 |
arrrghhh | i'll reboot and rebuild my 'clean' folder. | 15:58 |
arrrghhh | ah you want me to run that script? | 15:59 |
hyc | well, leave out the last line | 15:59 |
emwe | arrrghhh: can you squeeze some more info regarding the scratchiness? not like this hopefully: http://cgi.ebay.de/Sprint-HTC-Touch-Pro2-Pro-2-PDA-CDMA-Camera-Cell-Phone-/200603680173?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item2eb4e93dad 4th pic | 15:59 |
hyc | the /system/bin/ned should already be running | 15:59 |
emwe | pls understand my reasoning. as the main phone screen should be in good condition. | 16:00 |
emwe | hey hyc. | 16:00 |
hyc | howdy emwe | 16:00 |
arrrghhh | emwe, perhaps you should buy a phone then if you want it to be your main phone... | 16:00 |
emwe | wouldn't even mind paying for it. | 16:00 |
arrrghhh | i haven't seen pics | 16:00 |
helicopter88 | hi all | 16:00 |
arrrghhh | but from his description, the screen is going to be pretty scratched up. | 16:02 |
arrrghhh | hey helicopter88 | 16:02 |
arrrghhh | emwe, you seem to have reservations about it - i don't really care one way or the other, but if you don't want it i'll find another dev to get the device to. | 16:02 |
arrrghhh | hyc, perhaps? :P | 16:02 |
arrrghhh | not sure who at this point. perhaps jb | 16:02 |
hyc | rhod400 is verizon? | 16:03 |
arrrghhh | sprint | 16:03 |
hyc | ok | 16:03 |
arrrghhh | it is a worldphone tho | 16:03 |
arrrghhh | w/ a GSM slot | 16:03 |
arrrghhh | er | 16:03 |
arrrghhh | SIM slot :P | 16:03 |
hyc | don't think I actually need it now that that's all working :P | 16:03 |
emwe | and audio jack :/ | 16:03 |
arrrghhh | 3.5mm jack isn't works | 16:03 |
arrrghhh | working* | 16:03 |
arrrghhh | and i want that working :D | 16:03 |
emwe | yes, but it's there :P | 16:03 |
arrrghhh | hehe | 16:04 |
arrrghhh | yea, i want to get it to a dev that can help with that effort. | 16:04 |
arrrghhh | perhaps jb is the best candidate, assuming he wants it. | 16:04 |
hyc | like I said, the Cyanogen .35 kernel already has MSM 3.5mm jack driver | 16:04 |
hyc | er, HTC driver | 16:04 |
arrrghhh | really? | 16:04 |
hyc | yes | 16:04 |
arrrghhh | i don't remember you saying that. | 16:04 |
hyc | was browsing it last night | 16:04 |
arrrghhh | nice | 16:05 |
emwe | arrrghhh: given the case there's some good shiny unscratchy insurable and trackable titl2 in the wild ... you wouldn't be able to handle that over there, would you? | 16:05 |
arrrghhh | i assume you want a rhod400/500? | 16:06 |
emwe | just loocked around on ebay but i don't even have an ebay account. | 16:06 |
emwe | rhod400 looks nice i'd say | 16:06 |
arrrghhh | yea. no tilt2 then :P | 16:06 |
arrrghhh | that's the rhod300 fyi | 16:06 |
arrrghhh | (AT&T) | 16:06 |
helicopter88 | so,from what i understood,there's a donor rhod,but it's scratched,and you need to find someone to give it? | 16:06 |
emwe | ouch | 16:06 |
arrrghhh | helicopter88, yes we'd like a kernel dev | 16:06 |
emwe | what was 500? verizon? | 16:06 |
helicopter88 | ask jb | 16:07 |
arrrghhh | emwe, yes, 500 is vz. | 16:07 |
emwe | he has 300 | 16:07 |
arrrghhh | indeed | 16:07 |
arrrghhh | i'll ask jb next i guess. | 16:07 |
emwe | arrrghhh: on the other side, there's some screen replacements | 16:07 |
arrrghhh | emwe, that is true | 16:07 |
emwe | just saw them on ebay | 16:07 |
arrrghhh | again it's all up to you. | 16:07 |
arrrghhh | you could end up breaking it even worse too :P | 16:07 |
emwe | well, if one can replace tha screen easily | 16:07 |
emwe | lol damnit | 16:07 |
arrrghhh | i wouldn't say it's easy. | 16:07 |
arrrghhh | it's 'doable' | 16:07 |
arrrghhh | easy? no. | 16:07 |
emwe | ever heard of people doing it? | 16:08 |
arrrghhh | yea | 16:08 |
emwe | hm. | 16:08 |
arrrghhh | i've heard horror stories too | 16:08 |
emwe | sheesh | 16:08 |
arrrghhh | so you gotta be comfortable with that type of thing | 16:08 |
arrrghhh | working with tiny electronics isn't easy | 16:08 |
helicopter88 | i know that the sencity theme maker has tried with it,and got a weird screen now.. | 16:08 |
helicopter88 | *tried to do it | 16:09 |
emwe | ok, then scratch that rhod for it's scratchiness. really, i am the last one to be unthankful for any donation, but i want it as my main phone then and don't hesitate to pay some for it. but then it should be in a good state. | 16:09 |
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arrrghhh | there was a guy with an hd2 and bought it with a broken screen, planning on replacing it | 16:10 |
arrrghhh | ended up breaking it 5 different ways, and got rid of it. | 16:10 |
arrrghhh | emwe, obviously if you pay for it you'd want it in good condition | 16:10 |
arrrghhh | lol | 16:10 |
arrrghhh | and i understand why you don't want one with a scratched screen | 16:10 |
arrrghhh | i'll just find someone else :D | 16:10 |
xdandroid | New XDAndroid Releases bug 128 filed... | 16:10 |
arrrghhh | hopefully jb wants it. | 16:10 |
arrrghhh | not sure who else, other than wistilt2 or you hyc | 16:10 |
xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=128 critical, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Ending a call when display goes off leads to the device getting stuck in black screen | 16:10 |
emwe | arrrghhh: alex? | 16:10 |
arrrghhh | wtf | 16:10 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 16:10 |
arrrghhh | yea i guess i could ask him | 16:10 |
emwe | he's so in love with ihs kovs though | 16:10 |
arrrghhh | he seems to want to get away from this dev tho | 16:10 |
emwe | yes. | 16:11 |
arrrghhh | at least he keeps talking about it taking all his time. | 16:11 |
emwe | but lazy enough to start porting other devices to his tree ;) | 16:11 |
emwe | yes | 16:11 |
emwe | with 10 weeks of shipping and a huge snow storm he'd be finished with all devices working then me with one. | 16:11 |
arrrghhh | heh | 16:11 |
arrrghhh | i guess if he wants it | 16:11 |
emwe | so it's worth a try. | 16:11 |
arrrghhh | lol | 16:11 |
arrrghhh | no joke | 16:11 |
helicopter88 | ask him then.. | 16:11 |
emwe | btw, my wording was wrong... i meant he's not lazy enough, but bored enough to start porting other devices to his tree. sry. | 16:12 |
arrrghhh | emwe, did that autobl kernel fix work? | 16:12 |
arrrghhh | for RAPH? | 16:12 |
emwe | arrrghhh: works for me(C) on that RAPH100 | 16:12 |
arrrghhh | that's what bug 128 is for | 16:12 |
xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=128 critical, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Ending a call when display goes off leads to the device getting stuck in black screen | 16:12 |
arrrghhh | ok | 16:13 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 16:13 |
arrrghhh | he said he's on May 4th's kernel | 16:13 |
helicopter88 | btw i read before that alex is thinking about a way to port his kernel more easily,from what i understood.. | 16:13 |
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grigore_ | hello, anyone arround ? | 16:14 |
helicopter88 | hello | 16:14 |
arrrghhh | hey it's that guy | 16:14 |
emwe | he's talking about integrating his dynamic amms/adsp code to the rather compile-defined google devices of the tree | 16:14 |
arrrghhh | that submitted the bug | 16:14 |
arrrghhh | grigore_, i just responded to the bug | 16:15 |
arrrghhh | do you have autobacklight enabled? | 16:15 |
grigore_ | yeah, i just submitted one | 16:15 |
emwe | arrrghhh: that bugfix was for panel wake when the auto-bl was on. (no call involved) | 16:15 |
arrrghhh | i know, i responded to it... | 16:15 |
emwe | arrrghhh: i doN't even have a sim in it. | 16:15 |
helicopter88 | just found this "Alex[sp3dev] jonpry: i'm writing some crap-code now to bring trout/sapphire to my dynamic amss code and ultimately want to be able to be able to build both android and winmo kernel (to ease up porting new kernels and integrate upstream). when done, i'm thinking of porting some more devices to 35 just to see how it goes" | 16:15 |
grigore_ | let me check, i thing i disabled it | 16:15 |
arrrghhh | hyc, just got around to trying that, got errors on the first one. pastebin in a sec... | 16:16 |
emwe | grigore_: that raph bl-bugfix was specifically for the case where auto-bl was enabled and one could never get screen to wake again. | 16:16 |
arrrghhh | emwe, that's the bug | 16:16 |
arrrghhh | well, the whole can't get screen to wake again thing. | 16:16 |
arrrghhh | hyc, http://pastebin.com/1cfPGidt | 16:16 |
arrrghhh | invalid module format? | 16:17 |
hyc | your kernel modules don't match your kernel | 16:17 |
arrrghhh | lol | 16:17 |
emwe | erm... but i got that working here just fine. damnit. | 16:17 |
arrrghhh | i know they match... | 16:17 |
hyc | nope. | 16:17 |
arrrghhh | emwe, we haven't ruled out user-error. | 16:17 |
hyc | extract them again | 16:18 |
grigore_ | the screen time-out is at 30 seconds and the brightness(automatic brightness) is disabled | 16:18 |
arrrghhh | grigore_, did you try the new rootfs + RIL? | 16:18 |
grigore_ | is there another option i should be looking for? | 16:18 |
arrrghhh | no that's what we're talking about. | 16:18 |
arrrghhh | i can't wait for a new build! | 16:19 |
grigore_ | i just downloaded the last ones from the linkf on wikipedia an hour ago | 16:19 |
arrrghhh | :P | 16:19 |
arrrghhh | wikipedia? | 16:19 |
grigore_ | this one, sorry :P http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Incremental_Updates | 16:19 |
arrrghhh | ah yea | 16:19 |
arrrghhh | that's not going to have the newest stuff in it (yet) | 16:19 |
arrrghhh | we're trying to get everything updated | 16:19 |
arrrghhh | so either wait for a new build | 16:19 |
grigore_ | the ones i used are specified in the bug | 16:19 |
arrrghhh | or if you're brave, i can help you incorporate the test RIL / rootfs. | 16:20 |
emwe | why do you guys need a new ril btw? | 16:20 |
arrrghhh | because the old one sucks donkey balls | 16:20 |
emwe | i am running latest initr+rootfs and just tested out frx06 with .35 and .27 kernels. all fine | 16:20 |
hyc | emwe: what device? what network? | 16:20 |
grigore_ | if that means copy, pasting some files on the card i'm up for it | 16:20 |
emwe | i could even make calls (after doing outcall first) | 16:21 |
arrrghhh | yea, i don't know why but there were some RAPH users that said the new RIL + rootfs fixed their wake issues. | 16:21 |
emwe | hyc: topa100 gsm edge+3g | 16:21 |
arrrghhh | grigore_, little more complex | 16:21 |
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arrrghhh | it does involve that | 16:21 |
arrrghhh | and you need to add some bind mounts to your user.conf | 16:21 |
hyc | emwe: I would think you still get SoDs if your signal is weak | 16:21 |
emwe | hyc: that was like the first time today that i actually dared to do a phone call from that device and it didn't freeze :) | 16:21 |
hyc | that's the main reason the new ril exists | 16:22 |
helicopter88 | to mount rootfs(to edit it) what should i use? mount -o loop blablablabla or something else? | 16:22 |
emwe | i even had no data of what it looked after enabling it | 16:22 |
arrrghhh | that and the complete and utter lack of CDMA code in the old one | 16:22 |
arrrghhh | helicopter88, yes | 16:22 |
grigore_ | i don't know what that means but i'm willing to try if it wown't brick the phone | 16:22 |
arrrghhh | mount -o loop | 16:22 |
emwe | helicopter88: just that yes. | 16:22 |
hyc | oh yeah, that too | 16:22 |
arrrghhh | grigore_, nothing we're doing will brick the phone | 16:22 |
helicopter88 | ty both.. | 16:22 |
arrrghhh | none of this involves flashing | 16:23 |
arrrghhh | so the bricking chance is NIL | 16:23 |
emwe | so, back to .35 + gb. enough of that froyo... | 16:23 |
arrrghhh | lol | 16:23 |
helicopter88 | hyc,do you have a rootfs with all your changes merged? | 16:23 |
hyc | the one sitting on my phone, yes | 16:23 |
grigore_ | ok then what should i do ?:) | 16:23 |
hyc | aside from that no, nothing published | 16:23 |
emwe | arrrghhh: just wanted to verify that topaz first-incall-freeze. still present so it looks like a device speciality on the topa. | 16:24 |
hyc | kinda waiting for stinebd's feedback on the last set of merge requests | 16:24 |
helicopter88 | i'd like to put some things in cwm's rootfs,and since i don't have success with script.. | 16:24 |
emwe | was /dev/smd7 detection merged hyc? | 16:24 |
hyc | emwe: yes and no. the first version was merged, but that doesn't actually work | 16:25 |
hyc | it always only detected smd1 | 16:25 |
arrrghhh | grigore_, can i point you at a thread? | 16:25 |
grigore_ | sure | 16:25 |
hyc | I have a new update in my last merge request, but that hasn't gone in yet | 16:25 |
emwe | ok | 16:25 |
emwe | #3 then... remember. sry for reasking | 16:26 |
hyc | in fact though, rootfs doesn't matter for that now | 16:26 |
hyc | you just need the latest ril2 | 16:26 |
arrrghhh | grigore_, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=950383 | 16:26 |
hyc | detection in the init script always failed because those smd device nodes didn't exist | 16:26 |
helicopter88 | how much merge requests are there? and when all the requests will be done,will the rootfs be build? | 16:26 |
emwe | hyc: we are all done with the dependencies and i can wholeheartedly switch to your branches? | 16:26 |
hyc | teh new ril2 does the detection instead, and changes the pppd cmdline options appropriately | 16:27 |
hyc | hmmm | 16:27 |
emwe | helicopter88: dunno how many left. to lazy to look. rootfs has an autobuild service as well. so if anything get's pushed/merged, you will get a build right afterwards. | 16:27 |
emwe | ril2? | 16:28 |
grigore_ | thank's, i'll take a look and then post a response in the bug. i think i'll try it sometime tommorrow, it's midnight here | 16:28 |
hyc | you can switch to my branches, they work perfectly well | 16:28 |
hyc | oh but... | 16:28 |
hyc | one of my patches to rootfs will probably break secure apps on loop builds | 16:28 |
helicopter88 | ty emwe | 16:28 |
hyc | it works fine for partition builds because Vold works normally | 16:29 |
hyc | I'll have to check it again later on my looped SDcard | 16:29 |
arrrghhh | helicopter88, when they're done, and yes. | 16:29 |
arrrghhh | helicopter88, we'll have a new system image, and a new rootfs. | 16:29 |
hyc | my last system.img has Quake.apk | 16:29 |
emwe | hyc: androidhtc1 still? | 16:29 |
hyc | I think I'll delete it... | 16:29 |
hyc | emwe: no, just use initppd branch now | 16:29 |
emwe | ah | 16:30 |
emwe | noted down for tomorrow ;) | 16:30 |
helicopter88 | arrrghhh: the point of my question was to aproximately know how much time was left.. | 16:30 |
hyc | nobody knows | 16:30 |
arrrghhh | helicopter88, exactly. nobody knows. | 16:30 |
arrrghhh | when it's ready | 16:30 |
arrrghhh | just like CM says, NEVER ASK FOR DATES | 16:30 |
helicopter88 | maybe months.. | 16:30 |
hyc | I don't even know what the delay is right now, stinebd hasn't said anything to me about the last requests | 16:30 |
helicopter88 | heh,you said exactly what i usually say.. | 16:31 |
hyc | I wonder if he's waiting for arrrghhh to test them again :P | 16:31 |
hyc | if that's true then I'll put an image together for ya arrrghhh | 16:32 |
arrrghhh | maybe | 16:32 |
arrrghhh | maybe tomorrow. | 16:32 |
arrrghhh | maybe in a year from now... who knows? | 16:32 |
arrrghhh | and you're asking n00b questions :P | 16:32 |
arrrghhh | lol | 16:32 |
arrrghhh | he hasn't said anything if that's the case! | 16:32 |
arrrghhh | k | 16:32 |
arrrghhh | i'll go tell all the forums the hold up is me :D | 16:32 |
hyc | lol | 16:33 |
arrrghhh | alrighty, time to reboot to sort out this issue. | 16:35 |
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emwe | hyc: you remember any g1 issues/reports people loosing sound on their devices? | 16:39 |
emwe | hm, sounds like radio related and people having to reflash radio after system updates. | 16:41 |
hyc | not offhand | 16:41 |
emwe | the show the same dma missed logs on incall | 16:42 |
hyc | on G1? | 16:42 |
emwe | yes. | 16:42 |
emwe | but that was in like 2009 | 16:42 |
emwe | damn, thta is holding up really. | 16:42 |
hyc | like I said, it's a waste to try tracking down bugs that were already fixed years ago | 16:42 |
emwe | i could be lazy and do an outcall first after booting, but that's not how it should be. | 16:42 |
emwe | huh? | 16:43 |
emwe | this is a bug present on .27 and .35 | 16:43 |
hyc | I don't think G1 has any call problems on current kernels | 16:43 |
emwe | and i think it's kind of a device speciality to topaz | 16:43 |
emwe | because same code works for diam + rhod @ jb's side | 16:43 |
hyc | people are still complaining about it today? | 16:43 |
emwe | no, i just googled | 16:43 |
hyc | that's what I mean though - these bugs were fixed for G1 ages ago | 16:44 |
hyc | I'm sure if you read their changelogs you could understand what the bug was | 16:44 |
emwe | i am not sure though, that this is a kernel issue | 16:44 |
emwe | dunno even userland | 16:44 |
hyc | and make the right fix for your platform. or just use theirs. | 16:44 |
emwe | perhaps topa needs special treatment | 16:44 |
emwe | there is no fix | 16:44 |
hyc | no fix? for G1? | 16:45 |
emwe | fix was reflash radio after 1.6 upgrade. | 16:45 |
hyc | that is ancient history. so you're saying there's no newer radio firmware to flash? | 16:45 |
emwe | what how? i think we are talking apart | 16:46 |
hyc | on the G1 the fix was to flash a new radio? | 16:46 |
hyc | and so on topa you're out of luck because there is no newer radio? | 16:46 |
emwe | that's what i saw in that old google ticket | 16:46 |
emwe | lol no. i got the latest. even younger then official | 16:47 |
emwe | i am just giving old stock radio a try. | 16:47 |
emwe | but i have high hopes this will change nothing on the incall bug situation. | 16:47 |
hyc | but that radio version doesn't necessarily have the fix. nobody knows the changelog for these radios | 16:47 |
emwe | fix is also the wrong word perhaps | 16:47 |
hyc | I think we're going to have to start decompiling these radio images... | 16:48 |
hyc | instead of adding wince AMSS support to the kernel we should just be flashing native android AMSS to the phones | 16:48 |
hyc | plus I want a freshly compiled AMSS that supports IPv6 on mobile data | 16:49 |
emwe | give it a go ,) | 16:49 |
hyc | not this week ;) | 16:49 |
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arrrghhh | hyc, this new kernel is FUBAR | 16:52 |
arrrghhh | http://pastebin.com/jpEnke8K | 16:52 |
arrrghhh | still getting the error | 16:53 |
arrrghhh | and i wiped initrd, rootfs, zImage and modules. | 16:53 |
arrrghhh | redownloaded all the newest i could find from the autobuild | 16:53 |
arrrghhh | and started back up | 16:53 |
arrrghhh | would the data.img have something to do with it? i didn't blast that out. | 16:53 |
hyc | lemme read your paste | 16:53 |
arrrghhh | also, this new kernel is definitely draining when connected via usb. i think i'm going to have to switch kernels lest i kill my phone again today... | 16:54 |
hyc | I see a lot of sqlite errors here | 16:54 |
arrrghhh | i only see those at the beginning | 16:55 |
arrrghhh | at the bottom is where the tether error is. | 16:55 |
hyc | oh ok | 16:56 |
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tretre | hey | 16:56 |
hyc | so those modules are still missing | 16:56 |
arrrghhh | hello tretre | 16:56 |
tretre | can i get longer battery life | 16:56 |
tretre | on diamond touch htc | 16:56 |
arrrghhh | hyc, indeed. i removed ALL other zImages and modules | 16:56 |
tretre | when i using xdandroid | 16:56 |
arrrghhh | tretre, not really, not until we sort out panel collapse. | 16:56 |
tretre | ? | 16:56 |
tretre | ok | 16:57 |
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hyc | here's a little calibration toy for anyone willing to try | 18:04 |
hyc | http://lists.xdandroid.com/pipermail/xdandroid-dev/2011-May/000197.html | 18:04 |
hyc | it seems to produce the correct numbers for rhodium | 18:05 |
hyc | would be nice to know if it also works on others. | 18:05 |
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stinebd | hyc: the delay is that i'm busy | 18:12 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, nbd. just wanted to make sure there wasn't another reason. | 18:12 |
hyc | yeah, just making sure you weren't waiting on us | 18:14 |
stinebd | i haven't even looked at most of them yet | 18:14 |
stinebd | there was one with a certain change that i was going to ask you about but i forget now | 18:14 |
stinebd | it was something unimportant anyway | 18:15 |
hyc | ok | 18:16 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, is there anything we can do to help you? | 18:16 |
stinebd | sure | 18:16 |
stinebd | buy me a few hookers | 18:16 |
arrrghhh | lol | 18:16 |
arrrghhh | i'll hook up some escort services - FRX07 first tho. | 18:17 |
stinebd | frx07 is gonna be enormous | 18:17 |
stinebd | heh | 18:17 |
arrrghhh | no joke | 18:17 |
arrrghhh | tons of changes | 18:17 |
hyc | lol | 18:17 |
stinebd | i had to start a google doc for the changelog | 18:17 |
hyc | and I just posted a 3-line shell script to pull the factory screen calibration data | 18:18 |
stinebd | question about that | 18:18 |
hyc | could shoehorn that into this build too ;) | 18:18 |
arrrghhh | might as well :P | 18:18 |
arrrghhh | i'm wondering if we should wait for BT as well... | 18:18 |
arrrghhh | or is that 'done'? | 18:18 |
stinebd | when you recalibrate a rhod, does it put the new data in the "factory calibration" spot? | 18:18 |
stinebd | because you can see calibration points in the bootloader on that device | 18:19 |
hyc | no, the ts-cal driver only sets stuff up in RAM | 18:20 |
stinebd | sorry | 18:20 |
hyc | it doesn't try to write back to NVRAM | 18:20 |
stinebd | i meant when you recalibrate in winmo | 18:20 |
hyc | oh | 18:20 |
hyc | dunno | 18:20 |
stinebd | i know how the linux crap works because it's not obscure and exotic nonsense | 18:20 |
arrrghhh | lol | 18:21 |
hyc | and I've never done a calibration on mine in winmo | 18:21 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, i can factory reset and look to see if the calib stuff appears in the bootloader... | 18:21 |
arrrghhh | not sure how else to test it. | 18:21 |
stinebd | don't worry about it | 18:21 |
stinebd | i was just wondering | 18:21 |
arrrghhh | k | 18:21 |
arrrghhh | heh fair enough | 18:21 |
hyc | just got my new 32GB C4 card from newegg woohoo | 18:21 |
stinebd | i got a badass point and shoot camera for my trip | 18:22 |
arrrghhh | time to burn that one up! :P | 18:22 |
arrrghhh | what kind? | 18:22 |
stinebd | nikon coolpix l120 | 18:22 |
stinebd | 21x optical zoom | 18:22 |
arrrghhh | nice | 18:22 |
arrrghhh | damn! | 18:22 |
stinebd | hell yes | 18:22 |
arrrghhh | my gf's is like 18x. | 18:22 |
stinebd | i was trying it in best buy before i bought it and zoomed in on a price label across the store | 18:22 |
stinebd | it was awesome | 18:22 |
arrrghhh | hehehe | 18:23 |
arrrghhh | awesome. | 18:23 |
arrrghhh | so sir stinebd - is there anything you do need me to test? i have all the latest merge requests pulled. | 18:33 |
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stinebd | no idea | 18:35 |
arrrghhh | ok | 18:36 |
stinebd | like i said i have to take a look at what's there | 18:36 |
arrrghhh | understood. | 18:36 |
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rpierce99 | hyc that script doesn't work for me because i don't have a /dev/mtd | 19:01 |
rpierce99 | nvm | 19:01 |
rpierce99 | didn't see the first line | 19:01 |
rpierce99 | well all i get is commas | 19:02 |
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arrrghhh | that's good right? | 19:04 |
rpierce99 | best calibration ever | 19:04 |
rpierce99 | ,,,, | 19:04 |
arrrghhh | lol | 19:04 |
arrrghhh | fixed | 19:04 |
arrrghhh | hyc said he had some errands to run... so he's afk | 19:04 |
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Recnamoruen | hyc | 19:35 |
Recnamoruen | I figured out what was causing my data problems | 19:35 |
Recnamoruen | if i have the apn i use for mms set up google applications don't see it at all | 19:35 |
arrrghhh | eh? | 19:44 |
arrrghhh | are you CDMA? | 19:44 |
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hyc | rpierce99: bummer | 19:58 |
rpierce99 | yeah seems the coords are stored in different places for different models | 19:58 |
hyc | see this http://lists.xdandroid.com/pipermail/xdandroid-dev/2011-April/000133.html | 19:59 |
stinebd | as you'd expect of htc products | 19:59 |
rpierce99 | although it could be a difference between locked/unlocked or something, i'm stock | 19:59 |
stinebd | probably not | 19:59 |
hyc | stock, ok. I was wondering if hardspl would overwrite it | 19:59 |
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hyc | rpierce99: I would expect the offsets are pretty close overall. There should be valid data somewhere in that block, | 20:17 |
hyc | paste up a hex dump of it all | 20:17 |
rpierce99 | i'll need the command sadly | 20:18 |
hyc | which command? | 20:18 |
rpierce99 | to get that for you | 20:18 |
hyc | use the dd command in the email | 20:18 |
hyc | that will get the binary | 20:18 |
hyc | od -x might be good enough after that | 20:19 |
Recnamoruen | hyc yes im cdma | 20:21 |
rpierce99 | i don't know what that did | 20:21 |
Recnamoruen | Verizon | 20:21 |
rpierce99 | 0000000 ffff ffff ffff ffff ffff ffff ffff ffff | 20:21 |
rpierce99 | * | 20:21 |
rpierce99 | 0004000 | 20:21 |
hyc | rpierce99: looks like a pretty empty memory block | 20:21 |
hyc | so I guess it's nowhere close to the right location | 20:21 |
rpierce99 | yeah in textedit it's just a bunch of period | 20:21 |
rpierce99 | to make sure, this is the command i ran dd if=/dev/mtd/mtd0ro of=/sdcard/cali bs=2048 skip=18818 count=1 | 20:22 |
hyc | yep | 20:22 |
stinebd | hyc: https://gitorious.org/xdandroid/frameworks_base/merge_requests/2 - can the eri.xml be moved to our overlay? | 20:22 |
hyc | stinebd: I dunno. probably | 20:23 |
stinebd | that would be better than putting it in the fork | 20:23 |
hyc | ok | 20:23 |
hyc | also I think we need to change 64 too, Verizon seems to use that | 20:23 |
Recnamoruen | are you talking the network? | 20:25 |
Recnamoruen | cuz mine is saying t-cdma 64 constantly | 20:25 |
hyc | yeah, your CDMA network is using 64 instead of 128 that Sprint uses | 20:25 |
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stinebd | hyc: what's the word on https://gitorious.org/xdandroid/rootfs/merge_requests/2 ? | 20:26 |
hyc | it looked garbled whenever I looked at it on the gitorious web server | 20:26 |
stinebd | looks like version 4 backed the whole thing out | 20:26 |
Recnamoruen | any idea why my mms apn breaks data for google? | 20:27 |
hyc | stinebd: not sure how that happened | 20:27 |
hyc | mebbe just close #2 and use #3 | 20:27 |
stinebd | ok | 20:27 |
stinebd | lol #3 = just checking | 20:27 |
hyc | ;) I was like "wtf..." | 20:28 |
hyc | Recnamoruen: no idea, since I don't know who your carrier is or what your APN says | 20:29 |
Recnamoruen | lol | 20:29 |
Recnamoruen | verizon | 20:29 |
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Recnamoruen | these are my apn settints | 20:31 |
Recnamoruen | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13365722&postcount=449 | 20:31 |
hyc | Recnamoruen: you should leave the type empty | 20:31 |
hyc | otherwise it will only be used for that type | 20:32 |
hyc | the way you have it now, there is no APN defined for the other service types. | 20:32 |
hyc | that's why you have no regular internet data now... | 20:33 |
Recnamoruen | hmmm | 20:33 |
Recnamoruen | so I have to find the info for the other services? | 20:33 |
hyc | no | 20:33 |
hyc | this is CDMA | 20:33 |
hyc | there is no other info | 20:33 |
Recnamoruen | ah | 20:33 |
Recnamoruen | So just remove the type and it should be working properly | 20:34 |
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hyc | yep | 20:34 |
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Recnamoruen | Thanks hyc | 20:35 |
Recnamoruen | have you updated your ril at all, or are oyu still waiting for them to be commited | 20:35 |
hyc | nothing left to update in the ril | 20:36 |
stinebd | i dislike how gitorious only shows 5 repositories in the "your merge requests" box | 20:36 |
hyc | it's feature-complete | 20:36 |
Recnamoruen | I see | 20:36 |
Recnamoruen | Awesome | 20:36 |
stinebd | we have that one bugfix merge request in the ril | 20:37 |
stinebd | and that's it | 20:37 |
Recnamoruen | now if only gb could become feature complete :P | 20:37 |
hyc | ah right. /dev/smd7 detection | 20:37 |
Recnamoruen | So once it is in the official build, will i still have to edit local.prop for my mcc settings? | 20:37 |
hyc | yes | 20:37 |
hyc | I guess it might have been possible to read those out of the IMSI and such | 20:38 |
hyc | hmmm | 20:38 |
hyc | but I don't remember if the ril starts up early enough so that a setprop from there will affect the Phone framework | 20:39 |
stinebd | worth a try? | 20:41 |
stinebd | btw is your gitorious username hyc? | 20:41 |
hyc | yeah, looking at some of my collected radiologs to see if the info is actually there | 20:42 |
hyc | yes | 20:42 |
stinebd | https://gitorious.org/xdandroid/hardware_libhardware_legacy/merge_requests/1 will be interesting from a nand perspective | 20:43 |
stinebd | we should look at one of two things for that case | 20:43 |
jcmsVEN | Why my Rhod500 doesn't work? | 20:44 |
stinebd | 1. integrate busybox into the android build (ie, using a clone of someone's external/busybox repo, like cm) | 20:44 |
stinebd | or 2. fork external/iproute2 and add an Android.mk for the ip utility | 20:44 |
jcmsVEN | It's CDMA TP2 | 20:44 |
stinebd | that way we aren't dependent upon a rootfs with busybox | 20:44 |
hyc | stinebd: ah, I hadn't even thought about the ip link command being missing | 20:44 |
stinebd | i'm not sure at this point which approach would be better | 20:44 |
stinebd | probably external/busybox because it's already been done | 20:45 |
hyc | I would go with busybox | 20:45 |
hyc | but that's a developer's perspective. I can't imagine having the phone without it | 20:45 |
hyc | hm, I need to update this req, there's a 2nd patch | 20:46 |
hyc | done | 20:47 |
stinebd | have you had anyone testing tiwlan? | 20:47 |
hyc | no, unfortunately | 20:48 |
hyc | or not that I know of | 20:48 |
hyc | another alternative to ip link here would be just looking up the ioctls that are needed and doing it inline | 20:49 |
stinebd | screw that | 20:51 |
hyc | heh. ok, gonna take a stab at pulling out the operator ID | 20:55 |
hyc | at ril startup... | 20:55 |
stinebd | oh right this is what i wanted to ask about | 20:57 |
stinebd | https://gitorious.org/xdandroid/rootfs/merge_requests/3 | 20:57 |
stinebd | in generate-rootfs.sh, was 19-21a local change that snuck in there? | 20:57 |
hyc | looking... | 20:57 |
stinebd | as i said, totally unimportant | 20:58 |
hyc | well, it was giving me path errors before that | 20:58 |
hyc | and I didn't see why REPODIR needed to be a variable at all | 20:59 |
hyc | it gets deleted anyway right? | 20:59 |
stinebd | i guess | 21:00 |
stinebd | could just tempnam it heh | 21:00 |
stinebd | gotta do something about these key layouts | 21:01 |
stinebd | i wish we could have the input devs named by device or something | 21:02 |
stinebd | somehow | 21:02 |
hyc | oh, by phone model? | 21:02 |
stinebd | yeah | 21:02 |
stinebd | but then you still have to worry about languages and variants like fuze | 21:02 |
hyc | yeah | 21:02 |
hyc | can't win on that | 21:03 |
stinebd | royal pain in the ass | 21:03 |
hyc | been meaning to replace a bunch more of those copy commands with symlinks | 21:03 |
hyc | whatever, it's messy | 21:04 |
hyc | seems like both Sprint and Verizon phones are just returning 31000 | 21:15 |
hyc | which I guess might be correct as far as the towers are concerned. I dunno | 21:15 |
hyc | OK, http://highlandsun.com/hyc/ril2-test.zip | 21:22 |
hyc | remove your operatorID properties | 21:22 |
hyc | and see if the numeric is set automatically using this ril | 21:22 |
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stinebd | me? | 21:23 |
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hyc | oh, whoever's listening | 21:24 |
rpierce99 | how can we tell if it works? | 21:24 |
hyc | run getprop in a shell | 21:24 |
stinebd | i don't have a device with me so i'm useless right now | 21:24 |
hyc | look for ro.cdma.home.operator.numeric | 21:24 |
hyc | if it's blank, it didn't work | 21:24 |
hyc | (blank or missing) | 21:25 |
hyc | if you're in the US and it has 310xx then it's probably fine | 21:26 |
hyc | if you had an APN setup before for some other number, you'll need to have an APN with this matching number instead | 21:26 |
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rpierce99 | ro.cdma.home.operator.numeric is missing, gsm.sim.operator.numeric is 31000 | 21:40 |
hyc | ok that failed | 21:40 |
hyc | can you get a radiolog? | 21:40 |
rpierce99 | i do have data though | 21:41 |
hyc | yeah, data will keep working | 21:41 |
hyc | north american dialing will be hosed | 21:41 |
jonpry | how should the sd card be partioned for that kind of thing? | 21:41 |
hyc | jonpry: what? | 21:41 |
hyc | oh, neopeek build? | 21:42 |
hyc | parts 2, 3, and 4 ext2. system, data, cache. | 21:42 |
hyc | for me, 128M, 256M, 64M | 21:42 |
hyc | everything else part 1 vfat | 21:42 |
jonpry | looks like p0 = fat32 with kernel etc. p2 is fat32 usb mass storage, p3 e2 system, p4 e2 data? | 21:42 |
hyc | stinebd: duh, I forgot | 21:44 |
hyc | the ril (RADIO) user doesn't have privilege to set ro.cdma properties | 21:44 |
hyc | we have to patch init.android again to allow this | 21:44 |
jonpry | my internet is not well today. hyc this is in init mount -t ext2 -o ro,relatime /dev/block/mmcblk0p3 /system | 21:48 |
hyc | yes, xdandroid partition layout is not the same as neopeek's | 21:48 |
hyc | xdandroid only uses p1, p3, and p4 | 21:48 |
hyc | p1 is fat32 | 21:48 |
hyc | p2 is system ext2 | 21:49 |
hyc | no | 21:49 |
hyc | p2 is nothing | 21:49 |
hyc | p3 is system ext2 | 21:49 |
hyc | p4 is data ext2 | 21:49 |
Recnamoruen | What is this partition build you guys are talking about? | 21:52 |
hyc | rpierce99: try this new init then. http://highlandsun.com/hyc/init.android.7z | 21:54 |
hyc | you can't bind mount it. you're going to have to put it into your rootfs directly | 21:55 |
hyc | on the phone, as root: | 21:55 |
hyc | mount -o remonut,rw / | 21:55 |
hyc | ugh | 21:55 |
hyc | mount -o remount,rw / | 21:55 |
hyc | mv /init.android /init.android.BAK | 21:55 |
hyc | cp /sdcard/init.android / | 21:56 |
hyc | mount -o remount,ro / | 21:56 |
hyc | oh.... | 21:56 |
hyc | after you copy it, also chmod 755 /init.android | 21:56 |
hyc | otherwise it won't run | 21:57 |
jonpry | i'm trying to use nilfs | 21:57 |
hyc | got that? | 21:57 |
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hyc | jonpry: sounds cool | 22:00 |
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hyc | doesn't seem like it's ready for primetime yet tho. | 22:01 |
jcmsVEN | Touch Pro 2 Rhod500 and Touch Pro 2 Tilt are the same? | 22:01 |
hyc | nope | 22:01 |
jcmsVEN | mmm | 22:01 |
hyc | Tilt2 is RHOD300 | 22:01 |
hyc | GSM only, sold by AT&T | 22:02 |
jcmsVEN | I can't find Rhod500 thread on xdandroid | 22:02 |
hyc | RHOD500 is Verizon | 22:02 |
jcmsVEN | Verizon? | 22:02 |
jcmsVEN | I'm from Venezuela... and I have a HTC TP 2 | 22:03 |
jcmsVEN | CDMA | 22:03 |
jonpry | hyc: yeah i think it will be easy to get going, but i will have to cross compile nilfs_cleanerd | 22:03 |
jcmsVEN | When I turn my Phone and press Volume Down Button, I can see Rhod500 on a boot screen before WinMob | 22:04 |
jcmsVEN | RHOD500 32M SS-BC // SPL-0.70.0000 | 22:05 |
jcmsVEN | I'm confused | 22:05 |
jcmsVEN | I don't like winmob | 22:06 |
jonpry | hmm, how do i copy everything from one mount point to another while preserving permissions, ownership, symlinks... ? | 22:10 |
jcmsVEN | In winMob Device Info appear CPU: QUALCOMM 7600 | 22:11 |
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jcmsVEN | arrrghhh is a colective ID? or is the same person? | 22:14 |
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hyc | jonpry; I use tar | 22:16 |
hyc | cd /dir1; tar cf - . | (cd /dir2; tar xf -) | 22:16 |
jcmsVEN | How do I know what kind of Device I have? Touch 2 Pro CDMA | 22:23 |
hyc | sounds like you already know it's a rhod500. why do you keep asking? | 22:25 |
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arrrghhh | jcmsVEN, i am everywhere | 22:25 |
arrrghhh | or at least i am arrrghhh everywhere | 22:26 |
rpierce99 | i think you were right the first time | 22:26 |
arrrghhh | lol | 22:26 |
jcmsVEN | Because I'm not sure | 22:26 |
arrrghhh | eh? | 22:26 |
hyc | we are the arrrghhh. prepare to be assimilated. | 22:26 |
arrrghhh | lol | 22:26 |
arrrghhh | nice | 22:26 |
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jcmsVEN | I'm not sure that I have a Rhod500 | 22:26 |
arrrghhh | jcmsVEN, read the FAQ | 22:27 |
arrrghhh | it walks you thru how to figgur that out | 22:27 |
jcmsVEN | This URL http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951962, Right? | 22:28 |
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arrrghhh | http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Faq | 22:28 |
arrrghhh | is the FAQ | 22:28 |
arrrghhh | there's two links to the FAQ in the post | 22:28 |
arrrghhh | I think I need to put THIS IS A LINK around that gigantic FAQ link. | 22:29 |
arrrghhh | or perhaps i should just kang all the pretty things reef made. he did give me permission to do so :P | 22:29 |
jcmsVEN | mmm... good. I was on first step: Please, feel free to DONATE to the XDAndroid project!.... but you stop me. LOL | 22:30 |
hyc | oh, his web page also points to the FRX04 thread | 22:30 |
hyc | http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/ | 22:31 |
arrrghhh | i have access to modify that page | 22:31 |
arrrghhh | i guess i should do something about it | 22:31 |
arrrghhh | i know tiad8 links to reef's FAQ still. he only copied ours... i guess ours isn't pretty enough :P | 22:32 |
hyc | oh well | 22:32 |
hyc | hey arrrghhh, you should give my new init.android and ril2-test a try too | 22:33 |
arrrghhh | oh yea? | 22:33 |
arrrghhh | what's new | 22:33 |
hyc | it should set the ro.cdma.home.operator.numeric prop by itself | 22:33 |
hyc | so comment those out of your files | 22:33 |
hyc | and do a getprop to see if it's there | 22:33 |
arrrghhh | i have them commented out | 22:33 |
arrrghhh | says XDAndroid right now | 22:34 |
arrrghhh | i like it :D | 22:34 |
hyc | heh | 22:34 |
arrrghhh | yea i guess i forgot to mention that to you | 22:34 |
hyc | well, that was one of my recent patches | 22:34 |
hyc | glad it worked :P | 22:34 |
arrrghhh | hehe | 22:34 |
hyc | anyway. ok, you have operator commented out already? so getprop should return no values for them. right? | 22:35 |
arrrghhh | let me getprop now | 22:35 |
hyc | anywat, go back ~40 minutes in the chat log for the init.android | 22:36 |
jcmsVEN | mmmm... My phone doesn't have IMEI.... only MEID HEX and MEID DEC... | 22:36 |
arrrghhh | hyc, just grepped for cdma, nada | 22:36 |
hyc | ok cool | 22:36 |
arrrghhh | jcmsVEN, who cares just follow the directions and look for RHODXXX | 22:36 |
hyc | with new ril2-test.zip and init.android.7z it should set the numeric ID automatically | 22:37 |
arrrghhh | where are you pulling it from? | 22:37 |
hyc | from subscriber info | 22:37 |
arrrghhh | nice | 22:37 |
hyc | kinda made sense to look for it there ;P | 22:37 |
arrrghhh | well yea | 22:37 |
arrrghhh | i thought there was some issue with getting ti tho | 22:38 |
arrrghhh | it* | 22:38 |
hyc | rpierce99 alreadytried the ril, no problem. | 22:38 |
arrrghhh | cool | 22:38 |
hyc | but it needed a patch to init.android otherwise ril has no privs to set the property | 22:38 |
arrrghhh | i just thought you said smth about getting it | 22:39 |
arrrghhh | ah | 22:39 |
hyc | anyway, see if getprop shows the value, and then see if +1 dialing works correctly | 22:39 |
hyc | that would verify it all | 22:39 |
hyc | oh, not just +1. an actual international number. | 22:40 |
hyc | gotta go, have a meeting | 22:41 |
arrrghhh | k | 22:43 |
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hyc | did you get a chance to try it? | 23:12 |
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