| arrrghhh | so stinebd - what's left on the merges? | 00:02 |
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| arrrghhh | that rootfs you gave me is still runnin fine | 00:03 |
| hyc | arrrghhh: there were two separate waves of merge requests | 00:04 |
| hyc | looks like first wave is about done | 00:04 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:04 |
| arrrghhh | are you flanking him? | 00:04 |
| arrrghhh | sounds like an attack pattern | 00:04 |
| hyc | heh | 00:04 |
| hyc | never a good idea to change everything all at once | 00:04 |
| arrrghhh | no joke | 00:05 |
| arrrghhh | you'll never find what breaks it if 15,000 things change all at once | 00:05 |
| hyc | yep | 00:05 |
| arrrghhh | man, i haven't seen wistilt2 in a while. | 00:06 |
| hyc | looks like all the ril requests got merged | 00:07 |
| hyc | tho stinebd hasn't closed the last one yet | 00:07 |
| hyc | the code is in the tree now | 00:07 |
| arrrghhh | cool | 00:07 |
| arrrghhh | so what's the second wave? | 00:08 |
| arrrghhh | the shutdown stuff? | 00:08 |
| hyc | removing /data bindmounts, wifi interface rename, clean shutdown | 00:08 |
| arrrghhh | & restart | 00:08 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 00:08 |
| arrrghhh | FRX07 is lookin good | 00:09 |
| arrrghhh | i hope jb submits his userland stuff soon | 00:09 |
| arrrghhh | itchin to see that. he keeps teasing, saying BT is working for him :P | 00:09 |
| hyc | yeah. well stinebd says it was emailed to him | 00:09 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 00:09 |
| arrrghhh | weird he didn't post it to the ML | 00:09 |
| arrrghhh | the other stuff went thar | 00:09 |
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| hyc | yeah, pretty weird. oh well | 00:10 |
| hyc | hey, just to doublecheck - you're on 3G data when you test MMS right? | 00:10 |
| arrrghhh | oh lactic acid | 00:10 |
| hyc | pretty sure it wouldn't work on wifi-only | 00:10 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 00:10 |
| arrrghhh | 3g data | 00:10 |
| hyc | ok | 00:10 |
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| arrrghhh | so i doubt the person who has a sprint phone @ my work has it unlocked | 00:11 |
| arrrghhh | rooted | 00:11 |
| arrrghhh | what-have-you | 00:11 |
| hyc | ok, bummer | 00:11 |
| arrrghhh | i'm pretty sure it's a bone stock Epic. | 00:11 |
| hyc | I rooted mine but haven't subscribed | 00:11 |
| arrrghhh | tryin to think who else... | 00:11 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 00:11 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 00:11 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder... | 00:11 |
| arrrghhh | eh that would take forever, and probably not be worth it. | 00:12 |
| arrrghhh | if i could flip accounts between phones easily, i would totally do it. | 00:12 |
| arrrghhh | but there's usually a lot of hoopla associated with activating a new device. | 00:13 |
| hyc | yeah, usually not convenient | 00:13 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder if my buddy could pull some strings | 00:14 |
| arrrghhh | throw an extra line on 'my' acct for a month. | 00:14 |
| arrrghhh | it's not really my acct... it kinda is lol, but he is the 'master owner' or whatever. | 00:14 |
| hyc | oh, a group acct | 00:15 |
| arrrghhh | he's an employee | 00:15 |
| arrrghhh | i have 2 friends that work at sprint, brothers in fact heh. | 00:15 |
| hyc | hm, they oughta just be able to tell you the magic incantation | 00:16 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:16 |
| arrrghhh | you'd think so... but they don't work in the field per se. | 00:17 |
| hyc | I've seen some posts saying you need the MDN header with your phone number, others saying you don't. | 00:17 |
| hyc | did you put your phone number in your MMSC? | 00:17 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 00:17 |
| arrrghhh | that's the URL right? | 00:17 |
| hyc | yep | 00:17 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 00:17 |
| arrrghhh | it goes @ the end | 00:17 |
| hyc | ok | 00:17 |
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| hyc | oh.... | 00:20 |
| hyc | the MMS app automatically inserts your phone number. | 00:20 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 00:21 |
| hyc | // value. Replace the occurrence of the string returned by | 00:21 |
| hyc | // MmsConfig.getHttpParamsLine1Key() with the users telephone number inside | 00:21 |
| hyc | // the value. | 00:21 |
| hyc | that explains how they can distribute the OS without having to custom-install everybody's APNs... | 00:22 |
| arrrghhh | yea, that would be impractical heh. | 00:23 |
| hyc | the settings for it are compile-time, in the resources | 00:26 |
| hyc | and actually commented out | 00:26 |
| hyc | so that's why we have to set it in the APN | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 00:27 |
| hyc | and it would be carrier-specific | 00:27 |
| hyc | I guess we might as well leave it commented out. dunno. | 00:28 |
| hyc | everyone can edit their APNs now :P | 00:28 |
| hyc | hmmmm | 00:29 |
| hyc | but I should probably decompile the Hero's Mms.apk and see what's in there | 00:29 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 00:29 |
| hyc | maybe we don't need an active phone to figure this out | 00:29 |
| arrrghhh | i have started video record | 00:30 |
| arrrghhh | but i cannot stop it... | 00:30 |
| hyc | addict :P | 00:30 |
| arrrghhh | that would be cool | 00:30 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 00:30 |
| arrrghhh | testing for jb | 00:30 |
| hyc | cool, going to see if audio works on record? | 00:30 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 00:30 |
| arrrghhh | i said i would | 00:30 |
| arrrghhh | and as usual, someone responded with feedback and NO logs. | 00:31 |
| hyc | nope, can't tell from here, the Sense MMS app is different, don't know where to look. | 00:43 |
| hyc | but here's what it sent for user agent | 00:44 |
| hyc | D/HttpUtils( 419): [HttpUtils] createHttpClient w/ socket timeout 60000 ms, , UA=Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 1.5; en-us; A6277) AppleWebKit/528.5+ (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.2 Mobile Safari/525.20.1 | 00:44 |
| hyc | http://device.sprintpcs.com/HTC/APA6277KT/2316517.rdf | 00:47 |
| hyc | V/HttpUtils( 419): key=value, value=http://device.sprintpcs.com/HTC/APA6277KT/2316517.rdf | 00:47 |
| hyc | so I guess it's using a device ID registered on Sprint's site | 00:47 |
| hyc | A6277 | 00:47 |
| arrrghhh | weired | 00:48 |
| arrrghhh | weird* | 00:48 |
| arrrghhh | cam failed w/audio for me too :( | 00:49 |
| arrrghhh | oh well. hopefully mah logs help jb. | 00:52 |
| arrrghhh | i'm also hoping to test BT soon. i guess that means i'll have to charge that headset that i never use anyways haha | 00:52 |
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| hyc | funfun | 01:02 |
| hyc | btw, i posted my quake binary to xda | 01:03 |
| arrrghhh | i saw | 01:03 |
| arrrghhh | i read in da logs :P | 01:03 |
| hyc | loks pretty sweet on this screen | 01:04 |
| hyc | :) figured you saw that | 01:04 |
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| arrrghhh | hyc, what do you think about at the very least matching the partition layout neopeek uses? | 01:29 |
| arrrghhh | it seems pretty logical to me. | 01:29 |
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| hyc | sure | 01:40 |
| hyc | i'm not so cocerned about /cache. it's always empty on my g1 | 01:41 |
| hyc | but whatever | 01:41 |
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| arrrghhh | orly | 01:41 |
| arrrghhh | i thought it was for market, hm. | 01:41 |
| arrrghhh | bah, bedtime. ttyl | 01:51 |
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| Recnamoruen | hey guys | 02:58 |
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| miroM | i need help on this phone | 11:38 |
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| miroM | can someone help me | 11:40 |
| destroyer | what do you need | 11:40 |
| miroM | my phone is bein gstupid | 11:40 |
| destroyer | what model | 11:41 |
| miroM | a sexy model | 11:41 |
| destroyer | grrrr......... | 11:41 |
| miroM | i like yo | 11:41 |
| destroyer | bye | 11:41 |
| miroM | bye | 11:42 |
| toadlife | "gstupid" - Is that Google's brand of stupid? | 11:47 |
| miroM | teh fuck | 11:49 |
| miroM | i need help wityh my phone | 11:51 |
| miroM | please | 11:51 |
| miroM | please | 11:51 |
| miroM | please | 11:51 |
| miroM | please | 11:51 |
| miroM | please | 11:51 |
| miroM | plea | 11:51 |
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| MoneyMiro | Hi | 11:53 |
| destroyer | fuck you | 11:56 |
| toadlife | gstupid is back in the house | 11:57 |
| MoneyMiro | hell yea all day | 11:57 |
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| raf924 | hi-lo | 19:02 |
| raf924 | is there someone in there? | 19:03 |
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| killerz | Hey guys... I am using FRX06 and have been having a problem with errors in Slacker Radio streaming. I didn't have these issues with 05. Anyone else having trouble? | 20:07 |
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| arrrghhh | i love reading the logs here. so many people pop in, ask a dumb question, and then immediately leave. | 20:53 |
| rpierce99 | worse, they don't even ask the question | 20:53 |
| arrrghhh | heh yea | 20:53 |
| arrrghhh | lots of those too | 20:53 |
| hyc | I just figured out why the USB Tethering setting never works. woohoo | 21:03 |
| arrrghhh | ? | 21:05 |
| arrrghhh | don't tease me | 21:07 |
| hyc | just emailed the list | 21:07 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 21:07 |
| hyc | yeah, now it works perfectly | 21:07 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i'll wait. not sure how long it'll take, i get the summaries instead of the insta-email. | 21:08 |
| hyc | there were two lines commented out in the battery device driver | 21:08 |
| hyc | the comment said something like "only NAND needs this" | 21:08 |
| arrrghhh | i figured since i can't really contribute anything useful, there's no point in me getting the ML stuff quickly | 21:08 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, battery device driver?!? | 21:08 |
| hyc | obviously the comment was wrong ;) | 21:08 |
| arrrghhh | that effected USB? | 21:08 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:08 |
| hyc | yeah, it's so friggin bass-ackward | 21:09 |
| arrrghhh | weird. | 21:09 |
| arrrghhh | how did you figggur that out? | 21:09 |
| arrrghhh | i'm assuming this is kernel as well. | 21:09 |
| hyc | spent all day on it :P | 21:09 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 21:09 |
| hyc | I was searching userland | 21:09 |
| arrrghhh | i wish i had 1/4 the talent you do | 21:09 |
| arrrghhh | i'd have 3.5mm jack worked out in a week :P | 21:09 |
| hyc | using the java debugger to catch these events and see where it was going wrong | 21:09 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 21:09 |
| hyc | eventually it came down to the simple fact that userland didn't think USB was plugged in | 21:10 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 21:10 |
| hyc | because it's reading /sys/class/power_supply/usb to determine that | 21:10 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 21:10 |
| hyc | and the battery driver controls all of that | 21:10 |
| arrrghhh | that makes sense. | 21:10 |
| hyc | you would think there's a more direct way to determine that... | 21:11 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 21:11 |
| hyc | but whatever. patched, recompiled kernel, USB tethering now works. | 21:13 |
| arrrghhh | siiiick | 21:13 |
| arrrghhh | i've been wanting to ditch easytether. | 21:13 |
| hyc | it'd been driving me batty, all of the support functions for it worked | 21:14 |
| arrrghhh | so hyc - is there something in userland that sends killall zygote when the system hangs? | 21:14 |
| hyc | you could turn them all on manually and tether away | 21:14 |
| arrrghhh | i've had several resets within Android today. | 21:14 |
| hyc | hmmm | 21:14 |
| hyc | I dunno | 21:14 |
| hyc | logcat would show something | 21:15 |
| arrrghhh | very frustrating, because the system never comes back in a good state. | 21:15 |
| arrrghhh | always without service, forcing me to soft-reset. | 21:15 |
| hyc | yeah, I've seen that happen | 21:15 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 21:15 |
| arrrghhh | i'm betting i can capture it. new data.img, update from market. | 21:15 |
| hyc | I've also had a trashed data.img that made something reset, but radio survived. | 21:15 |
| arrrghhh | almost always guarantees a reset. | 21:15 |
| arrrghhh | hrm... i've never had the radio survive - at least not lately. | 21:16 |
| arrrghhh | i'll see if i can get some logs of the situation. | 21:17 |
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| arrrghhh | i wish all the RHODs had 3.5mm jakcs | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | jacks* | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | then maybe it would be more of a priority :P | 21:19 |
| hyc | heh, I guess that would've been nice | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 21:20 |
| arrrghhh | i figured acl would've whipped it up by now | 21:20 |
| arrrghhh | but he seems rather obsessed with NAND :P | 21:20 |
| arrrghhh | i'd like NAND, but i'd prefer all the hardware components at the very least functional. | 21:21 |
| arrrghhh | before moving to NAND. | 21:21 |
| hyc | no kidding | 21:21 |
| hyc | like I said, premature... | 21:21 |
| arrrghhh | i know | 21:21 |
| arrrghhh | but remember, we're a bunch of punk kids :P | 21:22 |
| hyc | heh | 21:22 |
| arrrghhh | i think it's taken so long to get to this stage, acl really wanted to start forging the path to NAND. he was probably worried it would never happen otherwise :P | 21:22 |
| hyc | I guess that's always a possibility | 21:25 |
| hyc | still, I would rather have a 100% functional build on SDcard than a semi-featured NAND | 21:25 |
| arrrghhh | +1 | 21:25 |
| arrrghhh | hence the reason i'm not running NAND full time :P | 21:25 |
| arrrghhh | it's *almost* at the stage where i can comfortably run this 100%. i do anyways, it's just not very comfortable sometimes ;) | 21:26 |
| hyc | yeah. it's really close. | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | i need to stop ending every sentence with a stupid smiley. i'm using it like punctuation almost. | 21:26 |
| hyc | I think with fixed audio - no more crackling, no more missing audio on incoming calls - I wouldn't care much else | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | waking on incoming calls... drives me batty. | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | do you have issues with it? | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | someone else with a rhod400 on sprint said they didn't... i can't believe that. | 21:27 |
| hyc | I don't think so | 21:27 |
| hyc | but I usually let my calls go to voicemail anyway :P | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | fuck | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | just had a call, i just have a blank scree | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | ah, activity phone is not responding. | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | yea, this is really pissing me off. | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder if GV is to blame | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know why it would be... | 21:28 |
| rpierce99 | do you have a big contact db? Trying to find the incoming # in your contacts could slow it down | 21:29 |
| hyc | check out top, see if something else is hogging the cpu | 21:29 |
| hyc | I have 158 contacts. dunno if that's big. | 21:29 |
| rpierce99 | i would think it would be well indexed so i don't know if that's even relevant | 21:30 |
| hyc | indeed | 21:30 |
| hyc | it's all about RAM still, I think | 21:30 |
| hyc | keep the clutter down, and the core functions work as they're supposed to | 21:31 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 21:31 |
| arrrghhh | i need to try disabling startup services as you suggested. | 21:31 |
| arrrghhh | i dunno, little late for TOP | 21:32 |
| hyc | yeah, that helps | 21:32 |
| arrrghhh | i need to test it mahself. | 21:32 |
| arrrghhh | put the phone to sleep and make test calls to it | 21:32 |
| arrrghhh | although... i won't be able to watch top if i expect the phone to sleep. shit. | 21:32 |
| arrrghhh | as for a big contact db, i dunno. certainly not gigantic, probably not even 158. | 21:32 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:33 |
| arrrghhh | 65 | 21:33 |
| arrrghhh | some have more than one number, but c'mon... i really hope it's not that. | 21:33 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, so are you saying you don't experience the issue too? | 21:33 |
| hyc | seriously doubt it's related to contacts | 21:33 |
| arrrghhh | i basically have it every time a freakin call comes in, unless the phone is on and not doing anything. | 21:33 |
| rpierce99 | i'd maybe say 1/10 calls i can't answer | 21:33 |
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| arrrghhh | i've had it happen when the phone is on and doing something | 21:33 |
| arrrghhh | obviously the hardware isn't so good at multitasking, that's not surprising. | 21:34 |
| arrrghhh | so if i'm fiddling with some app, i've had calls go missed because there was just too much crap clogging the system. you'd think it would push everything else to the side, and give top priority to phone calls | 21:34 |
| arrrghhh | i guess google didn't think that thru... | 21:35 |
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| hyc | google doesn't think most things thru | 21:35 |
| hyc | that's why all of their apps were in perpetual beta... | 21:35 |
| manekineko | seems like google doesn't really care much about low end devices | 21:35 |
| arrrghhh | seems like the more i know about google the less i want to learn... | 21:35 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko, no body does | 21:36 |
| hyc | when these were introduced, they were the high end | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | programmers nowadays are lazy | 21:36 |
| hyc | the G1 was the flagship | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | they don't want to optimize for slower devices | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | when they can add new features and just make people upgrade | 21:36 |
| hyc | they still didn't think it thru, back then. | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | they just buy out companies | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | and throw shit out there to make money off the acquisition ASAP | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | ugh, i need to eat. brb | 21:37 |
| manekineko | that's true, for some reason, Android on every tablet I've tried runs dog slow compared to the iPad and the BB Playbook, and those things have pretty monster specs | 21:40 |
| manekineko | arrrghhh, if the missing phone calls thing is really bothering you, you could give the Gingerbread build a shot again | 21:41 |
| manekineko | for whatever reason, performance is much, much better all around on that build than FRX | 21:41 |
| hyc | newer java compiler, newer native compiler | 21:42 |
| hyc | tighter binaries... | 21:42 |
| manekineko | I recently decided I missed location too much, and switched back to FRX | 21:42 |
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| manekineko | but after using FRX for a week, I just couldn't take it anymore, so damn slow | 21:42 |
| manekineko | missing phone calls because it couldn't load the call screen | 21:42 |
| hyc | but the G1 guys are still having wakeup problems with GB | 21:42 |
| hyc | they seem to think they want to keep launcher, phone, and mms pinned in memory | 21:43 |
| hyc | but there's not enough RAM to go around ... | 21:43 |
| manekineko | so now I'm back on GB, and the speed difference is really something | 21:43 |
| hyc | for us, it may not be an issue | 21:43 |
| hyc | but it looks to me like if you don't pin Phone and MMS, then you get to deal with lost messages, or lost calls. or both. | 21:43 |
| manekineko | hmm ouch | 21:44 |
| manekineko | we don't have that stuff pinned do we? I haven't noticed any lost calls | 21:44 |
| manekineko | heh and they're pinning the launcher just cuz? | 21:44 |
| hyc | yeah, they don't like slow response to Home button :P | 21:45 |
| manekineko | hmm, that seems a little less mission critical than the other two haha | 21:45 |
| hyc | yeah, whatever ... I never have Home pinned on my G1 | 21:46 |
| manekineko | I'm not sure if it's because I got used to the speed of GB, but I can't remember how I used to deal with the slowness of FRX | 21:46 |
| manekineko | do you find yourself wondering often while using it | 21:46 |
| manekineko | whether your device froze or if you just didn't tap hard enough or if it's just slowed down and not responding? | 21:46 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 21:46 |
| arrrghhh | GB was fast, but wacky | 21:46 |
| arrrghhh | would always crash on me | 21:46 |
| arrrghhh | i couldn't deal with the loss of data | 21:47 |
| arrrghhh | as in the data cxn | 21:47 |
| manekineko | heh FRX always crashes on me too | 21:47 |
| arrrghhh | FRX doesn't crash *too* often | 21:47 |
| arrrghhh | just slow | 21:47 |
| arrrghhh | and it gets so slow, things crash. | 21:47 |
| manekineko | data cxn issue is a pain, true | 21:47 |
| arrrghhh | i'm wondering if there's a threshold | 21:47 |
| arrrghhh | and killall zygote is called when the system hangs | 21:47 |
| manekineko | after hyc fixed the RIL, though, at least cycling data works consistently in GB to fix things | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | well that's good | 21:48 |
| manekineko | it's really remarkable how much downloading something slows down our systems, to the point where the system hangs | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder if that's PPP | 21:48 |
| manekineko | yeah, I wonder what the cause of that is, could it be the SD card bandwidth is occupied? | 21:49 |
| manekineko | I wonder if this issue happens on NAND | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | that time the phone woke almost immediately on a phone call | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | grrrrr | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | it's gotta be other processes | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | and the phone process just doesn't get high enough priority | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | or it tries to get too high of a priority, seizing everything... | 21:49 |
| manekineko | don't we already renice that thing way up? | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | bleh. | 21:49 |
| hyc | might be phone, might be system_server | 21:50 |
| hyc | yes, phone is already reniced to 18 | 21:50 |
| arrrghhh | can i add more RAM to my phone? | 21:50 |
| arrrghhh | i've got a soldering iron. | 21:50 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 21:50 |
| hyc | I have a feeling the renicer may be making things worse | 21:50 |
| arrrghhh | i think mine is reniced to 1 | 21:50 |
| arrrghhh | if that's the user.conf setting | 21:50 |
| hyc | no, userinit.sh on rootfs | 21:50 |
| arrrghhh | ah ok. | 21:50 |
| hyc | read /bin/userinit.sh | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | i believe you | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | sandwich and beer taking priority right now :D | 21:51 |
| hyc | right now it renices mms, phone, media, mediaserver, launcher, and music | 21:52 |
| hyc | seems to me that's a bit stupid | 21:52 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 21:52 |
| arrrghhh | why mediaserver | 21:52 |
| hyc | but I haven't played with it | 21:52 |
| arrrghhh | fuck that thing, renice it so it's negative. | 21:52 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:52 |
| manekineko | haha | 21:52 |
| hyc | I guess if you're watching a streaming video | 21:52 |
| hyc | actually, negative is higher priority in Unix/Linux... | 21:52 |
| arrrghhh | oh i'm thinking mediascanner | 21:52 |
| arrrghhh | ah, i obviously don't know what i'm talking about with renicing processes | 21:52 |
| arrrghhh | why did you say it's reniced to 18? | 21:53 |
| arrrghhh | i understand the concept, but i've honestly never needed to on linux. | 21:53 |
| hyc | the script actually sets them to -18 | 21:53 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 21:53 |
| arrrghhh | well, la-dee-dah :P | 21:53 |
| hyc | which is very high, max prio is -20 | 21:53 |
| arrrghhh | damn | 21:53 |
| arrrghhh | 0 is normal right? | 21:53 |
| arrrghhh | and +20 lowest? | 21:53 |
| hyc | yeah | 21:53 |
| arrrghhh | cool | 21:53 |
| arrrghhh | probably should've googled it. but it's much more fun bugging you with simpleton questions. | 21:54 |
| hyc | :P | 21:54 |
| arrrghhh | i read some of your interviews on LDAP. good stuff. | 21:54 |
| arrrghhh | as if i didn't already know it, you're just a couple of notches above me on the computer knowledge uhhhh tree? :P | 21:55 |
| hyc | heh | 21:56 |
| hyc | I'd say 100% of computers sold in the past 15 years are running code I wrote | 21:56 |
| hyc | on the planet, and off ;) | 21:57 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:57 |
| arrrghhh | 100% eh? | 21:57 |
| hyc | yep | 21:57 |
| arrrghhh | i know you've done a lot of linux stuff | 21:57 |
| arrrghhh | but windows too? | 21:57 |
| hyc | yep | 21:57 |
| manekineko | pretty amazing | 21:57 |
| hyc | mostly networking code. I wrote a kerberos driver for Windows back in the early 90s | 21:57 |
| arrrghhh | dang | 21:58 |
| arrrghhh | yea, that was some of the stuff i was reading. | 21:58 |
| hyc | security stuff, firewall stuff that the entire industry has adopted | 21:58 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 21:58 |
| arrrghhh | that's the stuff that interests me, security. | 21:58 |
| arrrghhh | career-wise that is. | 21:58 |
| arrrghhh | i guess it personally interests me too... | 21:58 |
| hyc | ahh | 21:59 |
| hyc | well, learn-by-doing works for me... | 21:59 |
| arrrghhh | can't say i really like security audits, but hardening things is fun. | 21:59 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, ditto | 21:59 |
| arrrghhh | everything i know i've taught myself. | 21:59 |
| arrrghhh | i should probably take some moar college-level courses. | 22:00 |
| hyc | if you already have a degree, dunno that it will teach you anything | 22:00 |
| arrrghhh | never really had much in the way of 'traditional' computer education. i've had some low-level cisco classes lately. | 22:00 |
| arrrghhh | i don't have a degree | 22:00 |
| hyc | ah. well, in that case, good to get one. | 22:00 |
| arrrghhh | i have part of a degree - college pulled my degree out from under me | 22:00 |
| hyc | but I wouldn't expect anything meaningful out of the actual courses | 22:01 |
| arrrghhh | said i wasn't far enough into the program, and wouldn't grandfather me thru. | 22:01 |
| arrrghhh | so i said FU and dropped out. i miss it, but i didn't know what the fuck else to do at the time. i took a long time to figure out that's where i wanted to be... and then they close it. | 22:01 |
| arrrghhh | i had a ton of new core classes to get out of the way, and i had only taken a couple of courses that directly pertained to the degree. but i had taken some... bleh. | 22:02 |
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| hyc | the neopeek guys still can't write a working update.zip. sad. | 22:10 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:11 |
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| toadlife | arrrghhh: you sound a bit like me. Dropped out of college, went to work in IT. Into security. | 23:14 |
| toadlife | cept I lost interestin security as I got older | 23:14 |
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| toadlife | bahh | 23:15 |
| hyc | We need to get our hands on a Pantech Sky IM-A630K Izar | 23:22 |
| hyc | it's a native Android phone with WVGA | 23:22 |
| hyc | and MSM7201A | 23:22 |
| toadlife | never heard of that one | 23:23 |
| hyc | just discovered it. google it. | 23:23 |
| hyc | Korean market | 23:23 |
| hyc | but it would have video codecs coded for that screen size. | 23:23 |
| hyc | Using the OpenGL drivers for Droid Eris isn't quite optimal, since that only has 480x320 screen | 23:23 |
| * toadlife just googled it | 23:24 | |
| toadlife | yeah. looks sexy | 23:24 |
| hyc | http://www.pantechphones.net/pantech-sky-im-a630k-izar/ | 23:24 |
| toadlife | MIght save some wheel reinvention | 23:24 |
| hyc | yep | 23:24 |
| hyc | dunno how we can get hold of one | 23:25 |
| hyc | need to have some Asian XDA members scope it out | 23:25 |
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| toadlife | Do you need the actuall phone or could you just have someone with one help out? | 23:28 |
| hyc | all we need is to adb pull a few libraries off it | 23:28 |
| hyc | anyone with the phone could probably help | 23:28 |
| Loof | Anyone play with CM7/2.3.4 on a Samsung Captivate... I'm curious how stable it is compared to Froyo. The issue list is starting to look less scary. | 23:36 |
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| FrankDFixer | does anyone know if there is an lcd density issue with gb 591? | 23:39 |
| hyc | oh, my mistake. that Pantech uses MSM7227, Adreno 200 GPU | 23:42 |
| hyc | so never mind, not the same as our Adreno 130 | 23:42 |
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| toadlife | bummer | 23:43 |
| FrankDFixer | anyone know anything about lcd density changer? I installed and rebooted and now all I get is a blank screen after red logo. (GB 591) | 23:44 |
| toadlife | red logo? | 23:44 |
| toadlife | you running xdandroid or some other build? | 23:45 |
| toadlife | gingerbread build? | 23:46 |
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