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| Detule | i think my phone just gave out on me.... | 11:32 |
| rpierce99 | oh noes | 11:37 |
| Detule | sigh....screen dies every time i flip the keyboard out....can't turn it back on | 11:42 |
| Detule | oh man no keyboard....this is going to be painful | 11:43 |
| emwe | Detule: ouchi. it's a hardware failure you say? | 11:44 |
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| Detule | it happens in winmo as well so i would think it's hardware | 11:53 |
| Detule | oh i hate that soft keyboard so much | 11:57 |
| Detule | it took me several minutes to tyope out "echo "1" > /sys/module/timer/parameters/debug_mask" | 11:57 |
| emwe | adb? ;) | 11:59 |
| Detule | yeah that would be nice...for whatever reason the adb connection blows up on this mac whenever i do anything intensive in a shell (even something as benign as "ls") | 12:00 |
| smiley-_ | I hate the soft keyboards too | 12:02 |
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| toymachine | hi | 12:08 |
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| arrrghhh | Detule, that's what you get for using a mac! | 12:09 |
| toymachine | hi | 12:10 |
| arrrghhh | howdy | 12:10 |
| arrrghhh | toymachine, you just gonna keep saying hi? | 12:11 |
| toymachine | why my phone keep hangs right after enter the android interface | 12:12 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 12:12 |
| toymachine | sorry, bit slow | 12:12 |
| arrrghhh | what phone | 12:12 |
| arrrghhh | what build | 12:12 |
| toymachine | htc diamond | 12:12 |
| arrrghhh | DIAM100? 500? | 12:12 |
| toymachine | frx07 | 12:12 |
| toymachine | diam100 | 12:12 |
| arrrghhh | HRM | 12:12 |
| arrrghhh | oops. | 12:12 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. | 12:12 |
| arrrghhh | that's GSM-only, right? | 12:12 |
| toymachine | yes | 12:13 |
| arrrghhh | have you updated the build at all? | 12:13 |
| toymachine | it also keep on sleep mode | 12:13 |
| arrrghhh | i think the kernel that comes with FRX07 doesn't play nicely with non-kbd devices | 12:13 |
| toymachine | what u mean updated build? | 12:13 |
| arrrghhh | http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Incremental_Updates | 12:14 |
| arrrghhh | that's what i mean | 12:14 |
| toymachine | ok, ive tried multiple zimage n rootfs versions | 12:14 |
| arrrghhh | uh | 12:14 |
| arrrghhh | you should just try the newest | 12:14 |
| arrrghhh | and if that blows up, then i guess you can start going backwardes | 12:15 |
| toymachine | the full package ones keep the boot loop | 12:15 |
| toymachine | i want your suggestion, because it can be many combination of zimage n rootfs... | 12:15 |
| toymachine | so, which is better to try, kernel or rootfs? | 12:16 |
| arrrghhh | both | 12:16 |
| arrrghhh | update both | 12:16 |
| arrrghhh | to the newest | 12:16 |
| arrrghhh | remove the old junk when you update | 12:16 |
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| toymachine | ok ill try, another one... is this problem related to startup.txt? | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | what? no. | 12:18 |
| arrrghhh | at least i seriously doubt it | 12:18 |
| arrrghhh | you grabbed the appropriate startup? | 12:18 |
| toymachine | yes i did | 12:18 |
| toymachine | what is this? ---> pm.sleep_mode=1 | 12:20 |
| arrrghhh | it sets sleep_mode to 1 | 12:20 |
| toymachine | are these attribute n parameter kept my phone sleep? | 12:20 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 12:21 |
| arrrghhh | no | 12:21 |
| arrrghhh | if your phone refuses to wake, that's another issue | 12:21 |
| toymachine | whats that? | 12:21 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 12:22 |
| toymachine | erm, it did wake but few seconds later it sleeps again.. | 12:22 |
| arrrghhh | could be any number of things | 12:22 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:22 |
| toymachine | lol | 12:22 |
| arrrghhh | you're just not being patient it seems | 12:22 |
| arrrghhh | your impatience is killing the phone. | 12:22 |
| toymachine | erm, maybe.. | 12:22 |
| arrrghhh | basically if stuff is happening in the bg, the phone won't play nice. | 12:22 |
| arrrghhh | if you wait after the boot process is finished, the phone should be usuable. | 12:23 |
| toymachine | ive tried it for quite a 5 to 6 hours | 12:23 |
| arrrghhh | DIAM has very little RAM tho | 12:23 |
| arrrghhh | so Android isn't such a great affair i've heard... | 12:23 |
| toymachine | ic | 12:23 |
| arrrghhh | on my RAPH it runs great, which has basically the same specs with double the RAM | 12:23 |
| toymachine | ive seen many people run their android on diamond on youtube successfully | 12:24 |
| toymachine | that kept me jealous | 12:24 |
| toymachine | or maybe on previous build? | 12:24 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:25 |
| arrrghhh | maybe you're doing something wrong? i don't know. | 12:25 |
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| toymachine | ive take sometime to study before really install this thing.. sadly it fails.. | 12:26 |
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| arrrghhh | you've done the usual crap | 12:28 |
| arrrghhh | format the card with the HP tool | 12:28 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 12:28 |
| arrrghhh | you seem to indicate you've tried updating... | 12:28 |
| toymachine | yeah, that's another option i havent do yet.. | 12:29 |
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| arrrghhh | hyc, you thar? i haz logs from DIAM500 folk that are on your fandangled new RIL but can't get data services... | 12:37 |
| knchris | arrrghh, I just uploaded my radio log to the ppcgeeks thread you and I were helping me on. | 12:38 |
| emwe | oh activity ;) | 12:39 |
| arrrghhh | heh. howdy emwe | 12:41 |
| arrrghhh | knchris, thanks | 12:41 |
| arrrghhh | i'm no log expert, but hopefully it'll help hyc sort out what is going on. | 12:41 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: the usual screwing of data.img ... trying to get ahold of the iowaits. | 12:42 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 12:42 |
| arrrghhh | i see data failures | 12:42 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, nice | 12:42 |
| emwe | lol | 12:42 |
| arrrghhh | thx for fixing h2w | 12:42 |
| arrrghhh | GSM users were getting testy :P | 12:42 |
| arrrghhh | [0030]< SETUP_DATA_CALL error: com.android.internal.telephony.CommandException: GENERIC_FAILURE | 12:43 |
| emwe | yah, that came into my mind when i shut down my box and thought.. hm what's with that gpio reset.... | 12:43 |
| arrrghhh | how to fix a generic failure... :P | 12:43 |
| arrrghhh | harhar | 12:43 |
| knchris | I wondered about this one: needsOtaServiceProvisioning: illegal cdmaMin='null' assume provisioning needed. | 12:46 |
| arrrghhh | knchris, not sure what the actual culprit is. from all the logs i've looked at, there's a ton of failures when the data connection is attempted. | 12:47 |
| knchris | Data Connection Unavailable notification -- likely transient error | 12:48 |
| knchris | those dang transients! | 12:48 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 12:48 |
| arrrghhh | gotta keep 'em in check | 12:48 |
| arrrghhh | alrighty hyc. i haz 4 logs, i believe they're all DIAM500 users on Sprint, but none of 'em really told me. | 13:01 |
| arrrghhh | i assume CDMA is all the same (mostly). #777, connects. | 13:01 |
| arrrghhh | like i know how CDMA works, puh. | 13:01 |
| knchris | mine's a raph800 on sprint | 13:02 |
| arrrghhh | Oo k | 13:03 |
| arrrghhh | thx | 13:03 |
| arrrghhh | knchris, i don't want to make assumptions here | 13:04 |
| arrrghhh | did data work on older builds? | 13:04 |
| arrrghhh | i also assume data works in WinMo? | 13:04 |
| arrrghhh | voice calls work? it seems to be re-registering over and over... | 13:05 |
| knchris | yes | 13:06 |
| rpierce99 | cdmaMin='null' likely means the RIL couldn't read the MIN from the radio and thus doesn't know it's own # | 13:06 |
| knchris | data worked on older builds, phone works | 13:06 |
| arrrghhh | knchris, ok thx. | 13:06 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, sounds like a problem | 13:06 |
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| arrrghhh | Exception Ljava/lang/UnsatisfiedLinkError; thrown during Ljackpal/androidterm/Exec;.<clinit> | 13:41 |
| arrrghhh | wtf? | 13:41 |
| rpierce99 | the link must have been tiad8.com, very unsatisfying | 13:43 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | i think this is the terminal emulator dying | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | i can't know for sure, the guy that posted the logs said nothing about them. just 'here's some logs' basically. | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | Container com.min.android.game.mahjong-1 is stale | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | i blame mahjong | 13:47 |
| smiley-_ | nice | 13:49 |
| smiley-_ | SE provides full kernel source download | 13:49 |
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| emwe | smiley-_: are gonna continue work on IOView? | 15:17 |
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| arrrghhh | emwe or hyc - can you explain to my n00b brain how netloc works on GSM? | 16:10 |
| arrrghhh | i know it triangulates towers or smth unlike CDMA... | 16:10 |
| arrrghhh | but what's the radio command? BSINFO seems to be uniquely CDMA. | 16:11 |
| vahid2222 | hey aaarrrgghh | 16:12 |
| arrrghhh | howdy | 16:12 |
| vahid2222 | sorry I was late | 16:13 |
| arrrghhh | eh? | 16:13 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 16:13 |
| arrrghhh | don't sweat it | 16:13 |
| arrrghhh | i'm usually not online at work | 16:13 |
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| vahid2222 | I tried the new kernel on diam500, the screen is not responsive | 16:13 |
| arrrghhh | hum | 16:14 |
| arrrghhh | the changes in that kernel were minor, shouldn't have effected DIAM500 | 16:14 |
| vahid2222 | huh, i deleted the image , i'm wiating now to see how it would work | 16:14 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 16:14 |
| hyc | yeah, GSM is a pain | 16:21 |
| arrrghhh | hey thar! | 16:21 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, i have like 15 issues. i'd say the most important would be the data issue on CDMA RAPH/DIAM. | 16:21 |
| hyc | the tower reports an ID | 16:21 |
| arrrghhh | there's literally one guy who's having an issue with netloc | 16:21 |
| hyc | the phone has to do a remote DB lookup with google to get lat/long for that tower ID | 16:22 |
| arrrghhh | wow... | 16:22 |
| arrrghhh | that sucks. | 16:22 |
| hyc | GSM is a bit stupid that way. CDMA was the superior tech by far | 16:23 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 16:23 |
| arrrghhh | don't tell stinebd that | 16:23 |
| hyc | whatever. CDMA makes more efficient use of radio spectrum | 16:23 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:23 |
| hyc | CDMA services have always broadcasted NITZ (time/timezone info) | 16:23 |
| arrrghhh | yea, that's very nice | 16:23 |
| hyc | even today there are GSM networks that don't. | 16:23 |
| arrrghhh | i think he's just mad that he doesn't have CDMA. and they don't use SIM cards. | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | but anyhoo, if you have some time i have... 5 or so logs from users that can't connect to data. | 16:24 |
| hyc | yeah, there are USIMs for CDMA but that still hasn't caught on. | 16:24 |
| hyc | that's one thing where GSM is a lot more convenient.... | 16:24 |
| hyc | ok, lemme take a look at a few | 16:25 |
| arrrghhh | sure, 1 sec | 16:25 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1203301&page=53 | 16:25 |
| arrrghhh | der | 16:25 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1203301&page=5 | 16:25 |
| arrrghhh | page 53 lol | 16:25 |
| arrrghhh | so there's three logs right in a row for ya there. | 16:25 |
| hyc | ok, grabbing the first one now | 16:26 |
| arrrghhh | :) | 16:26 |
| arrrghhh | thx dude | 16:26 |
| hyc | hm, first one is using August 4 ril, not latest. doesn't have the RADIOVER fix | 16:30 |
| arrrghhh | poop | 16:30 |
| hyc | hmm, HTC_NAM_SEL returned nothing | 16:31 |
| vahid2222 | i installed the new kernel, I don't even have service anymore | 16:31 |
| arrrghhh | vahid2222, which RIL are you on? | 16:31 |
| hyc | so there's no info on the operator/subscription info | 16:31 |
| vahid2222 | the original in FRX07 | 16:32 |
| arrrghhh | wtf | 16:32 |
| arrrghhh | did you not see the CDMA RAPH/DIAM fix thread!?? | 16:32 |
| vahid2222 | yes, i did | 16:32 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 16:32 |
| vahid2222 | omg | 16:32 |
| vahid2222 | HOLD ON! | 16:32 |
| vahid2222 | I had done that before, I thought mabe with the new kernel I don't have to....... stupid mistake! | 16:33 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, seems no one has gotten the 8/5 RIL :/ | 16:33 |
| arrrghhh | vahid2222, well you shouldn't | 16:33 |
| arrrghhh | if you've already done it, then you shouldn't have to redo it | 16:33 |
| arrrghhh | assuming the RIL is on your SD card | 16:33 |
| arrrghhh | and the bind mount statement is in your froyo.user.conf file | 16:33 |
| vahid2222 | I had your RIL from the thread before, I was only having service, no data | 16:33 |
| arrrghhh | that's all that is necessary to get the RIL in thar. | 16:33 |
| hyc | ok, well for this first log, definitely, the modem isn't reporting the CDMA subscription info | 16:33 |
| hyc | need to see a winmo radiolog to find out what it's doing | 16:34 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 16:34 |
| arrrghhh | crap. | 16:34 |
| arrrghhh | now's the time i wish i had GSM :P | 16:34 |
| arrrghhh | i might just have to switch service over to this RAPH.. oy. | 16:34 |
| hyc | hm, looks like the phone doesn't support HTC_SRV_STATUS command either | 16:35 |
| arrrghhh | damn these ancient phones. | 16:35 |
| hyc | no kidding | 16:35 |
| arrrghhh | their radio versions are a heckuva lot older than RHOD's. | 16:36 |
| hyc | so yeah, winmo log might help to show what commands they actually use | 16:36 |
| hyc | I really don't have time for this tho | 16:36 |
| arrrghhh | np | 16:36 |
| arrrghhh | do what you gotta do, i'll see what i can dig up. | 16:36 |
| hyc | I mean, digging in and writing all new support for another radio revision | 16:36 |
| arrrghhh | heh... | 16:36 |
| arrrghhh | yea, that doesn't sound simple. | 16:36 |
| hyc | someone else can do it, the source is all on git after all | 16:37 |
| arrrghhh | ha | 16:37 |
| arrrghhh | good one. | 16:37 |
| hyc | possibly the commands are already in the old versions of the code | 16:38 |
| hyc | I mean, people were using data before right? | 16:38 |
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| vahid2222 | I was using the data before | 16:38 |
| hyc | so a lot of the stuff I rewrote for RHOD may have deleted old code that we still need to use on these old phones | 16:38 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, they were using data in fake GSM | 16:39 |
| hyc | yes... so possibly some of the required info was different | 16:39 |
| hyc | but overall a lot was the same | 16:39 |
| hyc | the phone still wants to know the ID of the network it's talking to | 16:40 |
| hyc | and even in fake GSM it had to spit out the right commands for a CDMA phone to get that info | 16:40 |
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| arrrghhh_ | damn tether | 16:42 |
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| vahid2222 | arrrghhh, newest kernel, with the RIL, no data, i'm taking the log now | 16:51 |
| vahid2222 | service is up and running | 16:52 |
| arrrghhh | vahid2222, that's fine | 16:58 |
| arrrghhh | it sounds like the RIL needs to be rewritten for your old phones :/ | 16:58 |
| vahid2222 | OK, | 16:58 |
| vahid2222 | thanks for your efforts | 16:58 |
| arrrghhh | np | 16:59 |
| arrrghhh | wish i could do moar | 16:59 |
| arrrghhh | i have the time, but not the knowledge. | 16:59 |
| vahid2222 | u r doing a lot! | 16:59 |
| arrrghhh | hyc has the knowledge, but no time :P | 16:59 |
| vahid2222 | seems like tough things | 16:59 |
| arrrghhh | thx... never seems to be enough tho :P | 16:59 |
| arrrghhh | yea, this stuff isn't easy | 16:59 |
| arrrghhh | trying to reverse engineer a winmo device to run android... not normal ;) | 17:00 |
| vahid2222 | not normal | 17:00 |
| vahid2222 | gtg | 17:00 |
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| arrrghhh | heh, never gave a log. oh well. | 17:00 |
| smiley-_ | emwe: I hope so | 17:01 |
| f00bar80 | what is iphonesubinfo ?, also is there a way to send sms from the adb shell command line ? | 17:16 |
| arrrghhh | send sms from adb? wtf? | 17:16 |
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| f00bar80 | arrrghhh, from the shell through which i'm connected to my device | 17:17 |
| f00bar80 | anybody there ? | 17:21 |
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| stinebd | [16:23:02] <hyc> GSM is a bit stupid that way. CDMA was the superior tech by far | 18:02 |
| stinebd | hilarious | 18:02 |
| stinebd | hyc doing his stand-up routine | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | i thought you would like that | 18:02 |
| hyc | heh. CDMA beats TDMA any day | 18:02 |
| hyc | which is why GSM 3G went to WCDMA and abandoned TDMA | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | boom | 18:03 |
| stinebd | WCDMA beats the everliving crap out of CDMA | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | but it's based on CDMA. | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | i think that's his point ^^ | 18:03 |
| hyc | it is the same technology, just on a wider bandwidth channel | 18:03 |
| stinebd | but even back in the day, TDMA was a better actual technology than CDMA | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | oh stinebd. | 18:04 |
| stinebd | in theory CDMA was better but it was never implemented that way due to technical constraints | 18:04 |
| arrrghhh | you just can't handle that CDMA has some better aspects. | 18:04 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 18:04 |
| hyc | huh? in theory and in practice | 18:04 |
| stinebd | definitely not in practice | 18:04 |
| stinebd | it wasn't the dominant technology for a reason | 18:05 |
| hyc | Verizon has always had consistently better user experience in coverage and call quality than e.g. AT&T | 18:05 |
| hyc | no, it wasn't dominant because of Qualcomm and their patents | 18:05 |
| stinebd | lol | 18:05 |
| hyc | Kinda like Sony and betamax | 18:05 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: i never said cdma was inferior in every way (other than when clearly trolling) | 18:06 |
| hyc | anyway, there's obviously a lot more to each system than just their radio signal encoding | 18:06 |
| stinebd | yeah | 18:07 |
| hyc | but CDMA radio encoding was obviousloy the better approach | 18:07 |
| stinebd | i kinda liked hearing the beeps and boops on my radio with tdma | 18:08 |
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| stinebd | and my tv | 18:08 |
| stinebd | and my computer speakers | 18:08 |
| hyc | ugh... | 18:08 |
| stinebd | <3 edge | 18:08 |
| hyc | it's the worst when playing a gig and it comes out the amps. | 18:08 |
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| * rpierce99 has that problem all the time.... | 18:09 | |
| hyc | hm, I bet with a super high speed digital recorder you could decode the messages | 18:09 |
| hyc | /record the msgs and analyze them later.../ | 18:10 |
| stinebd | i think i need to ditch my ssl cert reseller and get it straight from a vendor | 18:11 |
| stinebd | every year they screw up my renewal somehow | 18:11 |
| hyc | lol | 18:11 |
| hyc | that's why I run my own CA | 18:11 |
| stinebd | well i just have one cert to worry about | 18:12 |
| stinebd | so if anything i'd just self sign | 18:12 |
| stinebd | but then my users bitch about outlook bitching | 18:12 |
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| stinebd | all 5 of em | 18:13 |
| stinebd | how come there aren't any arm netbooks? | 18:16 |
| stinebd | (worth buying) | 18:16 |
| rpierce99 | "how come there aren't any netbooks worth buying?" FTFY | 18:22 |
| stinebd | well i got one worth buying a few years ago | 18:24 |
| stinebd | but it has the same specs as everything today | 18:24 |
| stinebd | heh | 18:24 |
| stinebd | way to go intel | 18:24 |
| hyc | trust intel to delay any technological advance as long as possible | 18:25 |
| hyc | intel + M$ together | 18:25 |
| rpierce99 | monopoly at it's finest | 18:26 |
| stinebd | amd doesn't exactly help either | 18:26 |
| stinebd | but at least they do it through incompetency | 18:26 |
| hyc | well, they dragged intel kicking and screaming into the 64 bit era | 18:26 |
| hyc | amd has done some good things for the world... | 18:26 |
| stinebd | their mobile and laptop chips are bad | 18:26 |
| hyc | s/are/were/ | 18:26 |
| stinebd | still are | 18:27 |
| hyc | their new bobcat and llano chips are kicking ass | 18:27 |
| stinebd | honestly the core i3 and i5 stuff i've seen on the market in the past year hasn't been too good either | 18:28 |
| stinebd | in laptops | 18:28 |
| stinebd | i have a c2d that can almost keep up and way outperforms on battery life | 18:29 |
| hyc | these days I don't see any real improvement. especially in LCD displays, they've all regressed. | 18:30 |
| stinebd | everyone is worried about crysis 3 at 170fps | 18:30 |
| stinebd | meanwhile for real-world use there's little difference and a marked drop in efficiency | 18:30 |
| hyc | We should have 15" laptops with 2560:1600 panels today | 18:30 |
| stinebd | yes | 18:30 |
| hyc | instead everyone is stuck on 1366x768 | 18:30 |
| hyc | until that improves I'm not buying another laptop | 18:31 |
| rpierce99 | 1680x1050 | 18:31 |
| stinebd | i blame software patents for all these issues | 18:32 |
| stinebd | especially lcd density | 18:32 |
| hyc | heh | 18:32 |
| rpierce99 | that seems to be the cool thing to do lately, blame the patent system for everything | 18:33 |
| stinebd | i was blaming them before it was cool | 18:33 |
| rpierce99 | so now that it is cool, you don't blame them anymore right? | 18:34 |
| stinebd | i double blame them now | 18:34 |
| rpierce99 | that's not very hipster of you | 18:34 |
| stinebd | it's software patents' fault that blaming software patents is cool | 18:34 |
| stinebd | i shaved my goatee and started wearing contacts | 18:35 |
| stinebd | also terribly unhipster | 18:35 |
| stinebd | cyanogenmod on my atrix, i feel so dirty | 18:36 |
| rpierce99 | whore | 18:37 |
| stinebd | no i'm the male kind | 18:37 |
| stinebd | gigolo | 18:37 |
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| stinebd | crazy arrrghhh always comes back for more | 18:46 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:47 |
| arrrghhh | i'm a glutton for punishment | 18:47 |
| arrrghhh | f00bar80, i'm not sure *why* you would want to send sms thru adb | 18:47 |
| arrrghhh | but in googling a few things turned up | 18:47 |
| arrrghhh | http://code.google.com/p/desktopsms/ | 18:47 |
| arrrghhh | and... crap the other links turned out to be a bust. | 18:48 |
| arrrghhh | f00bar80, why not just use google voice? | 18:49 |
| stinebd | facebook messenger | 18:53 |
| stinebd | <50 downloads | 18:55 |
| stinebd | hah | 18:55 |
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| xda-Squirrels | my eyes are blinded by the whiteness of stock mIRC | 20:15 |
| xda-Squirrels | there we go, all pretty :P | 20:18 |
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| xda-Squirrels | hey arrrghhh :) | 20:58 |
| arrrghhh | hey thar | 21:01 |
| xda-Squirrels | sup | 21:01 |
| arrrghhh | nada, just got home from work. you? | 21:02 |
| xda-Squirrels | i got home from work a few hours ago, abut to stab amd/ati | 21:02 |
| arrrghhh | ha | 21:02 |
| arrrghhh | i was there with my HP. finally got it sorted (I think). | 21:02 |
| xda-Squirrels | catalyst control center crashed on me right as i disabled crossfire (so i could open windows movie maker) | 21:02 |
| xda-Squirrels | now it wont come back up | 21:02 |
| xda-Squirrels | too lazy to reboot ;p | 21:03 |
| arrrghhh | ouch... | 21:03 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 21:03 |
| xda-Squirrels | indeed | 21:03 |
| xda-Squirrels | there we go, only took killing about 6 processes | 21:04 |
| arrrghhh | when in doubt, end process. | 21:05 |
| arrrghhh | or my personal fave, kill -9 | 21:05 |
| xda-Squirrels | well i made a program to kill everything thats not in a whitelist but im too lazy to open notepad and add mirc.exe | 21:05 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:05 |
| xda-Squirrels | kill -9 sshd ;o | 21:05 |
| arrrghhh | "I made a program to increase my laziness, but I'm too lazy to improve on it to further my laziness" | 21:06 |
| xda-Squirrels | yep | 21:06 |
| arrrghhh | see I will quickly adapt things to increase my laziness. that's how lazy i am. | 21:06 |
| arrrghhh | i've spent hours trying to make some menial task easier :P | 21:06 |
| xda-Squirrels | ... fine *start -> run -> killall.cwl -> *adds mirc.exe* | 21:06 |
| arrrghhh | lolol | 21:06 |
| arrrghhh | was that so hard? :P | 21:06 |
| xda-Squirrels | yep | 21:06 |
| xda-Squirrels | i even have the program and whitelist in C:\Windows | 21:06 |
| xda-Squirrels | so i can just use killall and killall.cwl to access the files | 21:07 |
| arrrghhh | sounds dangerous. | 21:07 |
| xda-Squirrels | killed 9 more processes | 21:07 |
| xda-Squirrels | only if my program mistakes kill for delete ;p | 21:07 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:08 |
| xda-Squirrels | hmmm.... i'll try not to piss it off ;p | 21:08 |
| xda-Squirrels | brb, being fat (throwing in a pizza) | 21:08 |
| xda-Squirrels | waiting for it to pre-heat | 21:11 |
| xda-Squirrels | time to try and break my android on my raph800 lol | 21:12 |
| xda-Squirrels | sound has been working and i think its a fluke | 21:12 |
| xda-Squirrels | first few times it didnt work even on frx07 and now its been working | 21:13 |
| arrrghhh | fuckin sound. | 21:13 |
| arrrghhh | i want to stab it in the eye | 21:14 |
| xda-Squirrels | orly? why is that | 21:14 |
| stinebd | stupid comodo | 21:15 |
| arrrghhh | sound just has been plaguing random phones lately. or maybe all along, and they're only now complaining. | 21:15 |
| stinebd | it's your fault | 21:16 |
| stinebd | you keep marketing this as a finished build SUPER FAST STABLE WOO | 21:16 |
| xda-Squirrels | ive been complaining for a while sparatically but i havent been much help lol | 21:16 |
| xda-Squirrels | not i have that log thing so im trying to reproduce it for ya | 21:16 |
| xda-Squirrels | *now i | 21:16 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 21:16 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99 did a good job with that app. | 21:16 |
| xda-Squirrels | there we go, no sound | 21:16 |
| arrrghhh | now any yokel can pull logs :P | 21:16 |
| arrrghhh | sound is kinda fucked up from the beginning. it just usually works well for me. | 21:17 |
| stinebd | poor guy had to use java | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | has jb made any progress on his crap? | 21:17 |
| xda-Squirrels | well ive been either calling my google voice and putting on speaker than booting android or spamming my vol up key until i get black screen after haret loads | 21:17 |
| xda-Squirrels | when i dont do that, i dont get sound, im dumping logs and seeing if i notice anything obv. | 21:18 |
| xda-Squirrels | i only know Perl, vb.net and c# so im not much help on the android front lol | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | ha | 21:20 |
| stinebd | strange combo | 21:20 |
| stinebd | a couple languages that try to be english and one that looks like #$@{_/./$+}; | 21:21 |
| stinebd | if you so wish it to | 21:21 |
| xda-Squirrels | well i used to do a lot more perl when i ran my website, started out with vb6 and vbs/wsh back when i was little and moved up to vb.net and picked up c# not too long ago for work | 21:21 |
| stinebd | i'm of the belief that nobody "knows" perl | 21:21 |
| xda-Squirrels | you should see my old half-life server wuery perl script from back when it ran on WON | 21:21 |
| xda-Squirrels | *query | 21:21 |
| xda-Squirrels | its a ton of garbled reg ex shit | 21:22 |
| xda-Squirrels | vb6 became useful when i landed the job im at now because we're rewriting a lot of the database conversion apps from vb6 to c# | 21:23 |
| stinebd | that sounds like the 2nd worst possible application of vb | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:24 |
| hyc | lol | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | we're moving from delphi to c# | 21:24 |
| xda-Squirrels | lol yeah | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | w00t | 21:24 |
| hyc | going from one ridiculous proprietary interpreted language to another | 21:24 |
| xda-Squirrels | our dept. takes data from multiple kinds of formats and converts them into an MS SQL database for use with our program | 21:24 |
| xda-Squirrels | vb6 = death when trying to do anything useful | 21:24 |
| xda-Squirrels | our new multi-threaded c# framework is so much more sekz | 21:25 |
| hyc | garbge in, garbage out, garbage thru and thru | 21:25 |
| arrrghhh | anything with 'basic' in the name isn't useful. | 21:25 |
| xda-Squirrels | it worked, but thats abut it | 21:25 |
| arrrghhh | as an actual programming language. it's to learn how to code... that's it. | 21:25 |
| hyc | eh. it's to learn the bare minimum of code. doesn't teach you anything about computing systems. | 21:25 |
| hyc | and if you don't understand from a system perspective, you never write good code. | 21:26 |
| hyc | all this energy invested in "managed code" environments that isolate you from the real hardware, so you don't have to think about what really happens in the system | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | ha | 21:27 |
| hyc | complete and utter trash | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | yea... | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | basically allowing people who could never normally code, write crappy code. | 21:27 |
| hyc | pretty much | 21:27 |
| xda-Squirrels | i write all my code on the ui thread so it knows the info fasterest */sarcasm* | 21:28 |
| xda-Squirrels | i found my post from march 11th on the audio issue ;p | 21:29 |
| xda-Squirrels | hmm nothing useful on google but logs and my post lol | 21:30 |
| stinebd | you won't find much on google about android issues with these phones | 21:30 |
| stinebd | other than stuff that's either user error or already fixed | 21:31 |
| xda-Squirrels | i figured i'd search and see | 21:31 |
| stinebd | we set sail without charts | 21:31 |
| hyc | yeah, I got really tired of googling and only finding my own posts... | 21:31 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahahaha | 21:31 |
| arrrghhh | googling for the same terms in your post :P | 21:32 |
| xda-Squirrels | googling something i posted a while back ;p | 21:32 |
| xda-Squirrels | essentially the dmesg log of aumgr or w/e saying ARM9 did not reply to RPC | 21:32 |
| xda-Squirrels | audmgr* | 21:33 |
| stinebd | i finally get a day off on thursday, should i do atrix or xdandroid development? | 21:35 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | c'mon man where's GBX01 :P | 21:36 |
| stinebd | for the last time, GBX is not happening | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | that's still in "alpha" lol | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | wat | 21:36 |
| stinebd | it's GRX | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | but.. you said... | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | LOL | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | i asked you if you wanted me to change that when i released it | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | and you told me to leave it. | 21:36 |
| stinebd | yeah | 21:37 |
| arrrghhh | REAP THE SEEDS YOU HAVE SEWN | 21:37 |
| stinebd | we'll just say it advanced so much that we had to change the B digit | 21:37 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 21:37 |
| arrrghhh | seriously tho. new gb build. do eeeeeet | 21:37 |
| stinebd | but it's so tedious | 21:37 |
| xda-Squirrels | burn it | 21:37 |
| stinebd | porting is lame | 21:37 |
| arrrghhh | you can't abandon us for the atrix. | 21:38 |
| stinebd | someone else port it so i can do all the interesting stuff that i have no time for with xdandroid | 21:38 |
| stinebd | like an update provider | 21:38 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:38 |
| arrrghhh | that's boring | 21:38 |
| arrrghhh | i want this shit to work | 21:38 |
| stinebd | or that thing that's already mostly done | 21:38 |
| arrrghhh | and who says you can't make an update provider | 21:38 |
| stinebd | with the logs and the gets | 21:38 |
| stinebd | i have no time to make the update provider | 21:39 |
| stinebd | that's the problem | 21:39 |
| arrrghhh | make time | 21:39 |
| arrrghhh | it's time to be your own boss | 21:39 |
| * arrrghhh sanctions it | 21:39 | |
| stinebd | i am being my own boss | 21:39 |
| stinebd | by forcing myself to do the porting | 21:39 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:39 |
| stinebd | that way you can have your precious ginger image | 21:39 |
| arrrghhh | w00t | 21:39 |
| stinebd | but it's so boring | 21:39 |
| arrrghhh | but i enjoy testing it | 21:40 |
| arrrghhh | think of me | 21:40 |
| stinebd | there was something else too | 21:40 |
| stinebd | i guess i never wrote it down | 21:40 |
| stinebd | oh yeah kexec junk | 21:40 |
| stinebd | kinda goes together with the update provider | 21:40 |
| stinebd | also i need to do infra upgrades at some point | 21:41 |
| stinebd | see what's new with bugzilla and mediawiki | 21:41 |
| stinebd | ok night | 21:43 |
| xda-Squirrels | nighty | 21:43 |
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