adkz | i got stuck with some bug i think on the leedriod rom | 00:00 |
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adkz | had to flash back all over aagain thinking i did some mistake and yes I really did some mistake | 00:00 |
madplaya | haha, it work now ? | 00:00 |
adkz | working now | 00:00 |
adkz | xda forum had most of the answer | 00:00 |
adkz | the first problem I had was creating a gold card, some even told me if I know how to do the hexing LOL | 00:01 |
madplaya | lol i hate sense it creates to many folders on my sd | 00:02 |
adkz | well mejority of them were being sarcastic, then i stoped acting and just posted and quention them back but they could not answer me in the end :( | 00:03 |
adkz | *question | 00:03 |
adkz | sense 3.0? | 00:03 |
madplaya | at least you did most of it on your on, and sense 2.1 just folders of thumbnails for each app htc apps. | 00:04 |
madplaya | now flashing mikmik roms with some htc sense 3.0 features | 00:05 |
* adkz want sense 3.0 | 00:05 | |
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Edgan | Anyone know about the ram console? | 00:06 |
adkz | i tried installing that funky ring thing as a addon and no.. it runs much better on sensation then my 1ghz phone lol it is a waste to use it on my phone | 00:06 |
adkz | lags | 00:07 |
madplaya | lol ah, for me its kinda of the same thing for me as sense 2.1 , my friend has a evo3d played around with it, eh wasn't feeling it. i'm gonna see how that lockscreen works on my shift. | 00:08 |
adkz | did it lag on his evo3d? | 00:08 |
madplaya | no, fast as hell lol | 00:11 |
adkz | :( | 00:12 |
adkz | my old x1 died when I wanted to wait for sansation to be on the local telco here | 00:12 |
adkz | sensation | 00:13 |
adkz | and 4 days after i got my desire hd, sensation came out with only 100 bucks difference | 00:13 |
madplaya | lol .. ugh my phone is stuck at the htc logo boot... should've researched the relase date :p | 00:14 |
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adkz | lol | 00:16 |
adkz | roll back to recovery xD | 00:16 |
madplaya | YES IT booted wipe dalvik cache, and data installed manualy instead of rom manager and it worked. boot screen now. I wanna try out the lockscreen | 00:17 |
adkz | nice? xD | 00:17 |
madplaya | hey no lag on the lockscreen 800mhz only no oc lol | 00:19 |
adkz | :O | 00:25 |
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adkz | i try installing it later on again after lunch, chat with you later | 00:25 |
madplaya | hahaha try it again man, alright i think im going to get shut eye its 1230am here | 00:25 |
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Striker_ | hey, i'm thinking about putting android on my Sprint touch diamond. Whenever I restart the device, I have to manually boot into android, correct? | 00:41 |
Striker_ | and this installation will not affect the Windows mobile already on the system? | 00:41 |
Striker_ | One more question, I'll be placing the android files on the internal storage, this will not erase or affect any files/documents already in the internal storage? | 00:42 |
madplaya | yes, you have to manually start boot it and no it wont. you cant boot from the internal storage | 00:45 |
Striker_ | where can I boot from, if not the internal storage? The touch diamond does not have a SD card, only internal storage | 00:46 |
madplaya | read it wrong, well i use a touch pro 2 i use an sdcard... im not sure about touch diamond | 00:48 |
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adkz | i just notice my weather widget force close | 01:40 |
Striker_ | one more question, is the current build of android for the HTC devices largely usable? Do you find yourself switching to windows mobile often, or rarely? | 02:44 |
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adkz | sigh.. just when i thought i be getting into the new sense 3 look, now I am looking at leedroid logo only | 02:58 |
smiley- | Striker_: with the latest kernel it's very usable.. I had almost a week of uptime | 03:02 |
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Totem-Schalter | im trying to find out what My G1 is calling my network adapter . its not showing up as eth0 and ifconfig does not list .. im using this "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905261" guide to run BT5 and the script is failing | 04:09 |
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Totem-Schalter | i was using this link to run BT5 on G1 .. im getting error " http://paste.ubuntu.com/638273/ " when using this script " http://paste.ubuntu.com/638271/ " im not shure what i can edit to loose the error | 04:33 |
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emwe | arrrghhh: you around? | 14:50 |
arrrghhh | just got back from lunch. | 14:50 |
arrrghhh | what's up? | 14:51 |
emwe | are you able to fetch me logcat from your rhod during enabling gps? | 14:51 |
emwe | on froyo that is. | 14:51 |
arrrghhh | oh sure | 14:51 |
arrrghhh | do i need to get a lock? | 14:51 |
emwe | a logcat | grep -i "gps" would be sufficient i think | 14:52 |
arrrghhh | or just enable | 14:52 |
emwe | no, just the start of it | 14:52 |
arrrghhh | .27 OK? | 14:52 |
emwe | yeah, totally. | 14:52 |
emwe | "gps state initialized" should be the last thing. | 14:52 |
emwe | with some pdsm_client_* in between. | 14:53 |
arrrghhh | woah | 14:53 |
arrrghhh | that was quick | 14:53 |
arrrghhh | let me shoot this to ya, 1 sec | 14:53 |
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arrrghhh | http://pastebin.com/FsLT4ZHW | 14:54 |
emwe | no hurries. looking at gps on gb since yesterday. no clue so far... | 14:54 |
arrrghhh | emwe, is that sufficient? ^^ | 14:54 |
emwe | yap, fine! da3.. that's what i have been looking for. | 14:54 |
arrrghhh | i didn't even enable GPS in the sense of opening maps | 14:54 |
emwe | no, just fine. | 14:54 |
arrrghhh | i just ticked the enable box in settings ;) | 14:54 |
arrrghhh | kk | 14:54 |
emwe | thanks arrrghhh ! | 14:54 |
arrrghhh | np | 14:54 |
arrrghhh | always happy to help | 14:54 |
arrrghhh | so my buddy got his evo3d today. that thing is huge... | 14:56 |
arrrghhh | the 3d is actually pretty impressive... but it's like magic eye - you have to look at it just right. | 14:56 |
smiley- | a guy I know got a HTC senseation yesterday | 14:57 |
smiley- | he sold it on the local ebay today | 14:57 |
emwe | i think i lost track about all those new htc models. | 14:57 |
smiley- | "I have never been this disapointed with a product I have bought ever" | 14:57 |
emwe | all i know is they are bigger then our devices :) | 14:57 |
arrrghhh | smiley-, wtf | 14:57 |
smiley- | I said the same | 14:57 |
arrrghhh | emwe, dual core | 14:58 |
emwe | ah, so they can leave jit off ;) | 14:59 |
arrrghhh | lol | 14:59 |
smiley- | don't know what he didnt like.. probably htc sense | 14:59 |
arrrghhh | we leave jit off :P | 14:59 |
arrrghhh | sense 3.0 isn't bad | 15:01 |
arrrghhh | still bloat | 15:01 |
arrrghhh | but some aspects are nice | 15:01 |
arrrghhh | i like the new lock screen w/quick access to apps | 15:01 |
emwe | arrrghhh: as you mention quick access. how does one get that "running/recent apps" screen opened on with rhod? | 15:02 |
arrrghhh | very carefully | 15:02 |
arrrghhh | with f22's rootfs you can remap home | 15:02 |
arrrghhh | but stine i hear is going to permanently map home to end. | 15:03 |
emwe | ah, the end is just a faked home and having spareparts mapping end-call to home isn't the real fix, right? | 15:04 |
arrrghhh | well it's a partial fix | 15:04 |
emwe | i emulate "home" on topas zoombar on .35 :) | 15:04 |
arrrghhh | you get a home button | 15:04 |
arrrghhh | but long press home no workie | 15:04 |
arrrghhh | lol | 15:05 |
arrrghhh | there was some that wanted that | 15:05 |
emwe | up|down|home|left|right | 15:05 |
emwe | because i miss the cursor keys on android keyboard | 15:05 |
smiley- | I use launcherpro and maps home button to notication (if pressed on the home screen) | 15:05 |
emwe | home button to notification? what is that? | 15:06 |
arrrghhh | lolwut | 15:06 |
arrrghhh | smiley-, dunno what you're smoking but i wish you would share. | 15:06 |
emwe | ehm, i think i fixed gps init on gb. | 15:08 |
smiley- | it opens the notification window.. the screen on the raph100 is so small and not very sensitive at the edges so its hard to scroll down | 15:08 |
emwe | smiley-: we were talking about the recent apps menu | 15:09 |
smiley- | ahh | 15:09 |
arrrghhh | oh | 15:09 |
arrrghhh | yea, it seems you didn't get what we meant smiley- :P | 15:10 |
emwe | so wtf... this gps stuff was broken before... but this bug was in the android props amss detection by alex not assigning the detected version to the global var. | 15:10 |
smiley- | so gps is working in gb now? | 15:10 |
emwe | well, it's initializing now. | 15:11 |
emwe | but it must still fail with sysfs hw detection. | 15:11 |
emwe | on .35 there is no sysfs so it falls back to android property detection. it correctly detected version but didn't init a global var. | 15:11 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 15:13 |
emwe | arrrghhh: can you "cat /sys/class/htc_hw/amss" ? | 15:14 |
arrrghhh | i can try | 15:14 |
arrrghhh | emwe, 6125 | 15:15 |
emwe | ok, as it should. thanks. | 15:15 |
arrrghhh | np | 15:15 |
emwe | think i should get a .27 on the topa then and test with gb. | 15:15 |
arrrghhh | kk | 15:15 |
emwe | so the sysfs detection kicks in. | 15:16 |
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arrrghhh | $10 for 75mb. fucking awful. | 15:18 |
arrrghhh | G3N3T1X, i don't really appreciate unsolicited PM's | 15:20 |
arrrghhh | and AFAIK, Android doesn't support ad-hoc networks. | 15:20 |
arrrghhh | perhaps with wifi-ace, I'm not really sure. | 15:20 |
emwe | thanks to the ril i know what the noun unsolicited means. | 15:22 |
arrrghhh | lol | 15:22 |
smiley- | amss = 5225 on the raph100.. but gps is also broken on it in gb ;) | 15:24 |
arrrghhh | AMSS is different on that device... | 15:25 |
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emwe | whonder if it's fscked up upside-down there ;) | 15:27 |
emwe | ehm... could be as it defaults to 6125 on sysfs detection. houston we got a problem? | 15:28 |
arrrghhh | hum | 15:28 |
emwe | ok, gpslib crashes when actually trying to retrieve data. but that might be due to me messing around. testing with .27 now | 15:30 |
emwe | smiley-: now before i confuse myself even more... can it be there's quite some logcat output (stack traces) when you start using gps? | 15:32 |
smiley- | I see lot of stuff.. hang on | 15:33 |
emwe | ok, so detection is fine there.... | 15:33 |
emwe | ok, that .27 doesn't like to boot... back. | 15:36 |
smiley- | https://gist.github.com/1065691 | 15:38 |
emwe | smiley-: thanks! | 15:40 |
SpecR | Can the screen bright be "upped"? besides the Setting>Display config. | 15:41 |
arrrghhh | SpecR, no | 15:41 |
arrrghhh | perhaps with some third party app | 15:41 |
SpecR | in day light the screen light is very light even when in Settings>Display is at top value | 15:41 |
arrrghhh | but that sounds suspicious | 15:41 |
arrrghhh | well yea | 15:41 |
arrrghhh | of course, direct sunlight is murder on most screens, sans e-ink. | 15:42 |
SpecR | yet, when i touch the screen it goes really bright for 2 seconds | 15:42 |
SpecR | oh | 15:42 |
arrrghhh | really? | 15:42 |
arrrghhh | you have one of those stupid RAPH's huh | 15:42 |
arrrghhh | is auto backlight on? | 15:42 |
SpecR | no, manuel mode | 15:43 |
SpecR | manual | 15:43 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 15:43 |
arrrghhh | i don't know why brightness would adjust when you touch the screen then. | 15:43 |
arrrghhh | perhaps there's something wrong with RAPH brightness | 15:43 |
arrrghhh | have you tried lowering it and raising it | 15:43 |
SpecR | yeah, only when the screen is touched and for 2 secs it is really bright under daylight | 15:44 |
SpecR | after that goes almost unreadable | 15:44 |
SpecR | here in the office though is ok (logically) | 15:44 |
arrrghhh | emwe, ringing any bells? is there some bug on RAPH with screen brightness? | 15:45 |
arrrghhh | this doesn't happen on my RHOD | 15:45 |
arrrghhh | and while i can't say it's a pleasure to use in direct sunlight, it is possible. | 15:45 |
emwe | arrrghhh: no, imho the RAPH100 here is fine in auto-bl | 15:45 |
arrrghhh | emwe, tried manual? | 15:45 |
arrrghhh | SpecR, tried auto-bl? | 15:45 |
arrrghhh | lol | 15:45 |
emwe | arrrghhh: quite some time when fixing up auto-bl. can't rememeber broken stuff. | 15:46 |
arrrghhh | lol | 15:46 |
arrrghhh | ok | 15:46 |
arrrghhh | i have problems too, espeically when i don't have the device :P | 15:46 |
smiley- | my raph100 doesnt have that problem | 15:46 |
emwe | thx ^^ | 15:46 |
arrrghhh | these poor blackstone schlubs. they really need a dev. | 15:46 |
arrrghhh | SpecR, which RAPH? 800? | 15:47 |
SpecR | arrrghhh: yes 800 | 15:47 |
emwe | he said raph100 | 15:47 |
emwe | what? | 15:47 |
emwe | ah lol | 15:47 |
emwe | sry | 15:47 |
arrrghhh | emwe, that's smiley- you bum | 15:47 |
emwe | shutting up | 15:47 |
arrrghhh | lol | 15:47 |
arrrghhh | SpecR, my buddy has one of those, i can try to confirm on his. | 15:47 |
arrrghhh | have you done the usual, update etc? | 15:47 |
SpecR | arrrghhh: nop, its just installed some 3 days ago or so | 15:48 |
arrrghhh | c'mon man | 15:48 |
arrrghhh | triage | 15:48 |
SpecR | what's that? my english is pretty basic | 15:49 |
arrrghhh | uhm | 15:49 |
arrrghhh | how to explain... | 15:49 |
arrrghhh | troubleshoot? | 15:49 |
arrrghhh | you know that, yes? | 15:49 |
SpecR | i just googled "that is a central place to triage and report bugs" | 15:49 |
arrrghhh | uhm | 15:50 |
arrrghhh | ok | 15:50 |
arrrghhh | basically rule things out | 15:50 |
arrrghhh | update, make sure it hasn't been fixed in an update | 15:50 |
arrrghhh | see if there's a particular thing that breaks it, etc. | 15:50 |
arrrghhh | i can't do this for you, i don't have the device. | 15:50 |
SpecR | ok, ill do | 15:51 |
SpecR | I guess by update you mean to use Glemson's packs, right? | 15:53 |
SpecR | http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/ | 15:53 |
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arrrghhh | oy | 15:53 |
arrrghhh | SpecR, http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Incremental_Updates | 15:53 |
arrrghhh | there's some other pieces that can be updated, moreso than just the kernel. | 15:53 |
arrrghhh | but your issue probably does lie in the kernel. | 15:53 |
SpecR | great great | 15:54 |
SpecR | thanks | 15:54 |
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emwe | arrrghhh: btw, screw my "i think i fixed gps on gb" thingy... i just fixed non-.27 amss detection for 6125 and the accompanying crash. | 15:57 |
emwe | and i thought i rock. | 15:57 |
arrrghhh | heh | 15:57 |
arrrghhh | well fixing things is always good. | 15:57 |
emwe | this bug didn't show up for alex, as 5225 has 0 as enum val, same as the global was inited with so it didn't screw his x1. | 16:04 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 16:04 |
arrrghhh | odd | 16:04 |
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arrrghhh | ImCoKeMaN, you're italian? | 16:11 |
ImCoKeMaN | nope | 16:11 |
arrrghhh | oh... | 16:11 |
arrrghhh | lol | 16:11 |
ImCoKeMaN | sprint remember? | 16:11 |
arrrghhh | ImCoKeMaN@host200-222-static.45-88-b.business.telecomitalia.it | 16:12 |
ImCoKeMaN | yeah | 16:12 |
ImCoKeMaN | hence my force_cdma=0 currently | 16:12 |
arrrghhh | ah | 16:12 |
arrrghhh | yea, that's right. | 16:12 |
ImCoKeMaN | it'll be fios soon enough | 16:12 |
ImCoKeMaN | also might end up being a different device at some point too hehe | 16:15 |
arrrghhh | i haven't found anything with a good kbd | 16:15 |
arrrghhh | but i'm ready for a new phone. | 16:15 |
ImCoKeMaN | same here | 16:15 |
ImCoKeMaN | if shift had 5 rows i might have had it | 16:15 |
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ImCoKeMaN | if echo wasn't kyocera i'd think more about it | 16:16 |
arrrghhh | shift seems like a freakin bastard child | 16:16 |
arrrghhh | doesn't deserve the evo moniker | 16:16 |
ImCoKeMaN | yeah what is up with that | 16:16 |
arrrghhh | dunno | 16:16 |
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arrrghhh | htc just wanted to pump something out i guess | 16:16 |
ImCoKeMaN | but they have good 5row kbd why ever go back? | 16:16 |
arrrghhh | dunno | 16:16 |
ImCoKeMaN | 1 less wire in ribbon cable saves .000025 cents probly | 16:17 |
arrrghhh | why wasn't the g2 just an upgraded tp2, i don't know. | 16:17 |
ImCoKeMaN | well my snapdragon tp2 isn't too bad | 16:19 |
arrrghhh | lol | 16:19 |
smiley- | I'm waiting for this one: http://www.swedroid.se/37200/mer-xperia-mini-och-mini-pro-bilder-och-video-fran-presskonferensen/ :) | 16:19 |
ImCoKeMaN | just put tmobile leo in a txt file and you can have one too | 16:19 |
arrrghhh | yea, i'm sure that's workin out really well for you' | 16:20 |
arrrghhh | that is probably one of the oddest bugs dude. | 16:20 |
arrrghhh | smiley-, 4-row. and no CDMA. | 16:20 |
arrrghhh | but it doesn't look bad | 16:20 |
arrrghhh | there's all this jibberish on the page | 16:20 |
arrrghhh | :P | 16:20 |
ImCoKeMaN | well those are two biggies though | 16:20 |
ImCoKeMaN | chrome might help translate that i guess, but i didn't try | 16:21 |
smiley- | arrrghhh: yeah 5 rows are great | 16:22 |
arrrghhh | smiley-, indeed. why can't they just make a TP3. | 16:23 |
smiley- | but I can live with 4 rows :) | 16:23 |
arrrghhh | tilt screen, great kbd. this phone is fuckin awesome. | 16:23 |
arrrghhh | lol i can too, better than no kbd :P | 16:23 |
smiley- | yeah | 16:23 |
smiley- | ah.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShtWcsof3Rk a video too.. (in english) | 16:24 |
arrrghhh | so tiny | 16:26 |
ImCoKeMaN | too much facebook not enough g+ | 16:26 |
arrrghhh | lol | 16:26 |
smiley- | haha | 16:27 |
smiley- | yeah | 16:27 |
smiley- | and not much irc | 16:27 |
smiley- | I like this: http://unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com/ | 16:30 |
arrrghhh | ha yea | 16:30 |
arrrghhh | but all devices now have that it seems | 16:30 |
arrrghhh | HTC devices are now all going to be coming unlocked | 16:30 |
arrrghhh | seems even shitty moto devices will have unlocked bootloaders now. | 16:30 |
smiley- | the droid3 has 5 rows btw | 16:31 |
ImCoKeMaN | what about iphones? | 16:31 |
arrrghhh | lol | 16:31 |
arrrghhh | smiley-, bleh@moto | 16:31 |
smiley- | hehe | 16:31 |
arrrghhh | and i think that's a Verizon exclusive device. | 16:31 |
arrrghhh | i'm so very cheap, i'll probably never ditch Sprint. | 16:32 |
SpecR | I searched xdandroid in g+ thinking to maybe find a sort of 'like' page. | 16:42 |
arrrghhh | wat | 16:43 |
SpecR | just made a search after uploading a pic from my raph800, first time im available to use the camera in my device | 16:44 |
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stinebd | arrrghhh: pm | 17:19 |
arrrghhh | yes sir | 17:20 |
emwe | you secretive fellows. | 17:22 |
arrrghhh | lol | 17:23 |
arrrghhh | shhhh | 17:23 |
stinebd | emwe: fyi, our releng stuff is all internal now. you'll need to log into your xdandroid.com account to download it | 17:23 |
stinebd | unfortunately it asks to allow every time but that's the price you pay for no freedom | 17:24 |
stinebd | write your chancellor if you disagree with this policy | 17:24 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, it works. | 17:25 |
arrrghhh | the login piece | 17:25 |
emwe | dear mrs. merkel, i am deeply concerned about your XDAndroid releng practices. | 17:25 |
stinebd | haha | 17:25 |
arrrghhh | trying the nuke media test now | 17:25 |
arrrghhh | lol, she deeply cares about your trials and tribulations emwe | 17:25 |
emwe | stinebd: login on that known url? | 17:25 |
stinebd | once you try to download a file it will prompt you | 17:26 |
emwe | ah ok. | 17:26 |
stinebd | hoepfully | 17:26 |
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emwe | ok, worksforme. | 17:28 |
emwe | stinebd: regarding gps on gb, it must be something with the GpsCallbacks hooks. when i comment the most prominent calls to them, i can "workaround" the crashes. | 17:29 |
stinebd | right, at which point the driver does nothing | 17:29 |
emwe | ... as system doesn't get to know. | 17:29 |
emwe | how deep have you diven into that back then? | 17:29 |
stinebd | heh | 17:29 |
stinebd | only deep enough to determine the same that you have | 17:30 |
stinebd | it's a jni callback issue, which will be difficult to debug | 17:30 |
stinebd | that it's a callback makes it hard enough, but with there being two different languages at work, it'll make it a real pain | 17:31 |
stinebd | honestly aside from hooking a debugger into the system process, i'm not sure how we'll accomplish it | 17:31 |
emwe | that means hooking up the sources into eclipse, setting a breakpoint and?... need to read up on that. | 17:32 |
stinebd | yeah | 17:33 |
emwe | eclipse+adt is around, just never did anything but launch a self written app. | 17:33 |
stinebd | not sure how all that works | 17:33 |
stinebd | especially once you get into jni | 17:33 |
emwe | same here ;) | 17:33 |
stinebd | good to learn though, i suppose | 17:34 |
emwe | any component you can point me to in "userland" so i don#t have to search the whole day? | 17:34 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, new data.img & no media folder, I still haz ringtones :D | 17:35 |
stinebd | emwe: GpsLocationProvider in frameworks/base | 17:36 |
arrrghhh | so should i still include the media folder, just leave it empty so ppl can add to it? | 17:36 |
emwe | stinebd: thank you. | 17:36 |
stinebd | arrrghhh: yeah that'd be cool | 17:36 |
arrrghhh | scwheet, thx. | 17:36 |
stinebd | it has some subdirs, leave those too | 17:36 |
arrrghhh | indeed | 17:36 |
arrrghhh | just clear 'em out | 17:36 |
arrrghhh | so what's left? tweak the home key... | 17:37 |
stinebd | we'll get rid of that tree completely for gingerbread then | 17:37 |
emwe | stinebd: btw, whyever... that beta release still finds my music in /sdcard/media/ allthough that mediascanner fix should be in place. | 17:37 |
stinebd | since you can use normal sdcard directories | 17:37 |
stinebd | emwe: if you have the andboot/media directory still, you should have two entries of each ringtone in there | 17:37 |
emwe | stinebd: that one is abolished already. | 17:38 |
emwe | just whondering about my mp3 being found in that non-checked dir after the patch | 17:38 |
stinebd | all sdcard is checked | 17:38 |
emwe | didn't try updating that dir. not that a full scan is just done on first boot and never again | 17:38 |
emwe | hoh? | 17:38 |
stinebd | since you and i were worried about the kids being angry | 17:38 |
emwe | i thought you included that one. assume reverted? | 17:39 |
stinebd | reverted in the latest system image | 17:39 |
emwe | ai ;) | 17:39 |
emwe | dear mrs. merkel, i am now confident that your hardened releng practices are paying out. somebody listened to me. | 17:40 |
arrrghhh | lol | 17:40 |
stinebd | let her know that germany needs nuclear too! | 17:41 |
arrrghhh | alright, my day is done. cya guys. | 17:42 |
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emwe | i'll let her knwo first that i need a bed. | 17:43 |
emwe | going to look further into gps tomorrow. | 17:43 |
stinebd | k, night | 17:43 |
stinebd | thanks | 17:43 |
emwe | thanks for the pointers stinebd. gnight. and your welcome ;) | 17:43 |
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arrrghhh | stinebd, i was thinking about making a page for MMS off the FAQ for what is needed for which carrier to get it working | 20:03 |
stinebd | arrrghhh: what is needed? | 20:03 |
arrrghhh | is there any way we can get it to populate an APN with this info, or will manual adjustment always be necessary? | 20:03 |
arrrghhh | MMSC it seems like is all that's really needed. | 20:03 |
stinebd | hyc: ^ could we make a little app in rootfs to set a prop and have ril use that for cdma? | 20:04 |
arrrghhh | the MCC/MNC were pre-populated IIRC | 20:04 |
arrrghhh | i can test that, but MMSC definitely was not. | 20:05 |
stinebd | of course, but we could make an app to set it based on the carrier | 20:05 |
arrrghhh | oic | 20:05 |
stinebd | or even do it in the ril itself | 20:05 |
arrrghhh | fancy | 20:05 |
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arrrghhh | well if we do figure it out, i know the MMSC for VZ and Sprint at least. | 20:08 |
arrrghhh | by we i mean hyc | 20:09 |
stinebd | wouldn't be a huge list to keep track of | 20:09 |
stinebd | worldwide there are like 7 cdma providers | 20:09 |
arrrghhh | lol | 20:10 |
arrrghhh | movisomething | 20:10 |
arrrghhh | i know there's one in venezula | 20:10 |
stinebd | i heard tiad is starting one up in the states | 20:11 |
arrrghhh | boost probably has specific settings | 20:11 |
arrrghhh | lol | 20:11 |
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slickdaddy96 | See I knew I should have never tried to help on here. The minute I say I was testing the new build you lock it up tight stinebd. There was no harm in keeping it accessible to everyone that knew the link. Which was only me outside you programmers. If you don't need the help whatever.... | 22:11 |
stinebd | i was going to offer you a whitelist entry but if you're going to bring that attitude with you, we don't want your help | 22:12 |
slickdaddy96 | It was tounge and cheek | 22:13 |
slickdaddy96 | Guess I need :-) | 22:13 |
stinebd | if you want to do internal testing you can submit patches and get dev access | 22:13 |
slickdaddy96 | I just was debating on even coming in and helping. I assumed the minute I said something about it you all might lock it down, and I didn't want that. I liked being special! :-) | 22:14 |
slickdaddy96 | I am not good enough to patch thigns yet, but I got no problem testing and giving logs and telling you if there is an issue with anything going on. | 22:15 |
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stinebd | i have a feeling there will be plenty of testing for gingerbread | 22:20 |
slickdaddy96 | yeah I haven't touched gingerbread yet, but if I had some time and people were patching things I would mess with it. | 22:22 |
slickdaddy96 | well if you wanted to give me that whitelist, I wouldn't be hearbroken, sorry about the first comment, I am horrible at typing out things and them not coming off wrong sometimes. Has gotten me in trouble with some emails at work before. :-) I understand if you don't want to do that though. | 22:27 |
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Kraln | arrrghhh: how goes the tp2? | 22:35 |
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adkz | :O | 22:51 |
arrrghhh | Kraln, hey thar | 22:54 |
arrrghhh | emwe is making good use out of it :D | 22:54 |
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stinebd | slickdaddy96: when you read this in the logs, email me from a google account (stinebd@xdandroid.com) | 22:57 |
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Kraln | arrrghhh: that's good, any nice patches? | 23:03 |
arrrghhh | yea he fixed the bug with GSM being used on CDMA devices :P | 23:03 |
arrrghhh | and he's lookin at the 3.5mm jack with acl | 23:03 |
Kraln | nice | 23:04 |
arrrghhh | but yea we're all plugging along, just starting testing on FRX07 | 23:07 |
Kraln | any support for the HTC windows phone 7 ? :P | 23:07 |
arrrghhh | which reminds me stinebd - i'm back on .27 and i had the bug where i can hear the far end, but they can't hear me... flipping the speakerphone on/off did nothing to remedy the issue. it was very odd, since i hardly ever get that issue. | 23:08 |
arrrghhh | Kraln, on the TP2? lol. | 23:08 |
Kraln | no, on the windows 7 phones | 23:08 |
arrrghhh | oh | 23:08 |
arrrghhh | none have SD slots...? | 23:08 |
arrrghhh | i thought one did, but it would eat them like candy or something? | 23:08 |
Kraln | mine has an sd slot | 23:09 |
Kraln | :-( | 23:09 |
arrrghhh | i don't really follow those devices. the Pro7 looked good, but no slot. | 23:09 |
arrrghhh | can you use it? | 23:09 |
arrrghhh | wtf did you get a WP7 phone for dude :P | 23:09 |
Kraln | I have the arrive :P | 23:09 |
arrrghhh | orly | 23:09 |
arrrghhh | you got the tp3 | 23:09 |
Kraln | now you know why I got one :-) | 23:09 |
arrrghhh | i thought that didn't have an SD slot... | 23:09 |
arrrghhh | Oo | 23:10 |
arrrghhh | perhaps that's just the Pro7? | 23:10 |
arrrghhh | so can you use the SD slot? | 23:10 |
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Kraln | it has a micro sd | 23:10 |
Kraln | yeah | 23:10 |
arrrghhh | you can use any SD card on it? | 23:10 |
Kraln | yea | 23:10 |
arrrghhh | well any microSD card | 23:10 |
arrrghhh | weird | 23:11 |
arrrghhh | i heard something about WP7 not supporting SD cards. and only one phone had a slot, and it would fuck up cards lol | 23:11 |
Kraln | I mean | 23:11 |
Kraln | it doesn't have a file browser | 23:11 |
Kraln | or any way to put stuff on it | 23:11 |
arrrghhh | wut | 23:11 |
Kraln | as far as I can tell | 23:11 |
Kraln | but if I use the hacked file browser I can find it, it gets moutned | 23:11 |
arrrghhh | lol | 23:11 |
arrrghhh | that's madness. | 23:11 |
arrrghhh | well i guess it would be interesting... could you even run haret? | 23:12 |
arrrghhh | dunno | 23:12 |
arrrghhh | that would be where the hackings start | 23:12 |
Kraln | I could try. | 23:12 |
arrrghhh | but i'm not aware of any WP7 phones to Android | 23:12 |
Kraln | it's basically the windows ce kernel | 23:12 |
arrrghhh | ports* | 23:12 |
arrrghhh | yea | 23:12 |
arrrghhh | i guess if the OS would allow the exe to run | 23:12 |
arrrghhh | get cotulla one :P | 23:12 |
arrrghhh | so i'm guessing you hadn't heard of any either? i haven't exactly looked. | 23:13 |
arrrghhh | but i haven't come across any tech news on it either... | 23:13 |
madplaya | hey argh i dont know if you remeber about me telling you about making 3g faster thru espt menu i tried it on my evo shift and work faster | 23:14 |
Kraln | I mean, it's got the TP2 shell with a nicer screen and nicer video | 23:14 |
arrrghhh | madplaya, that's nice | 23:15 |
arrrghhh | Kraln, how's the tilt? | 23:15 |
arrrghhh | looks slick. if only it had android, i'd be all over it.. | 23:15 |
Kraln | tilt is solid | 23:15 |
Kraln | sturdier than the tp2 | 23:15 |
madplaya | So i decied to give the tp2 to my mom and put android for her in a couple of weeks, so i'll still be here lol | 23:17 |
arrrghhh | ohgod | 23:17 |
arrrghhh | i just told some dude that he shouldn't do that for his mom | 23:17 |
arrrghhh | Kraln, nice. makes me want one. but me no want WP7 | 23:18 |
Kraln | mango is NICE | 23:18 |
madplaya | hahaha, how come? | 23:18 |
arrrghhh | madplaya, Android isn't exactly stable on the TP2 in case you hadn't noticed. | 23:19 |
arrrghhh | Kraln, lies. | 23:19 |
arrrghhh | i've used WP7 devices, i can't stand 'em. sure the UI is fast, but that gets old in like 3 minutes. | 23:19 |
Kraln | what's the part you can't stand? :) | 23:19 |
arrrghhh | boooooring | 23:19 |
arrrghhh | nothing can be customized | 23:19 |
Kraln | not true ;) | 23:19 |
arrrghhh | very little at least | 23:19 |
madplaya | lol, true might have to rethink it lol. | 23:19 |
Kraln | I like how the launcher doesn't force quit :P | 23:19 |
arrrghhh | Kraln, if you're comparing Android on the TP2 to WP7 on the Arrive, not a fair comparison. | 23:20 |
arrrghhh | at all... | 23:20 |
arrrghhh | The HD2, that would be a pretty fair comparison. | 23:20 |
Kraln | nah, android on the nook vs wp7 mango :p | 23:20 |
arrrghhh | and i think the hardware specs are pretty similar, assuming you can run haret on it. | 23:20 |
arrrghhh | lol that's not really a fair comparison either. | 23:21 |
arrrghhh | you like comparing apples & oranges eh? :P | 23:21 |
arrrghhh | meh. based on what i've seen, WP7 is not for me. | 23:21 |
Kraln | that's fair | 23:21 |
arrrghhh | i liked winmo cuz it was hackable. | 23:21 |
Kraln | it does exactly what i want | 23:21 |
arrrghhh | wp7... seems so very not. | 23:21 |
Kraln | it's a great phone. it's a decent email client. it has an okay browser. it's easy to develop for | 23:21 |
arrrghhh | hope you like your tiles | 23:21 |
arrrghhh | devs are flocking to WP7 LOL right. | 23:22 |
Kraln | fuck other devs | 23:22 |
Kraln | I mean for me, personally | 23:22 |
arrrghhh | lol | 23:22 |
arrrghhh | dot net or whut | 23:22 |
Kraln | it's C# on top of silverlight, for the most part. | 23:23 |
Kraln | and the app store is nice, | 23:23 |
Kraln | it's nicer than apple, anyway | 23:23 |
Kraln | different strokes for different folks :p | 23:24 |
Kraln | http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/phone-comparison/142087-htc-arrive-wp7-vs-touch-pro2-android-edit-now-video.html | 23:27 |
arrrghhh | i actually saw that exact same thread already lol :P | 23:28 |
arrrghhh | and who cares about apple | 23:28 |
arrrghhh | is it better than Androids? | 23:28 |
arrrghhh | (i would assume no...) | 23:28 |
Kraln | depends on which marketplace. | 23:28 |
arrrghhh | hence the beauty of Android | 23:29 |
Kraln | nice for users | 23:29 |
arrrghhh | you get this thing, it's called choice ;) | 23:29 |
Kraln | bad for developers. | 23:29 |
arrrghhh | eh i guess | 23:29 |
Kraln | yeah, to me that's market fragmentation | 23:29 |
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Kraln | with different rules | 23:29 |
arrrghhh | it's all one platform tho | 23:29 |
Kraln | not really | 23:29 |
Kraln | lots of different related platforms | 23:29 |
Kraln | not nearly as bad as blackberry | 23:30 |
arrrghhh | you think wp7 phones will always have the exact same specs? | 23:30 |
arrrghhh | ohgod bb is dead. | 23:30 |
arrrghhh | qnx seems too little too late. we'll see tho. | 23:30 |
arrrghhh | they seem to have a grip on the business world. | 23:31 |
arrrghhh | i know people that carry an iPhone and a fucking BB | 23:31 |
madplaya | ^haah | 23:31 |
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arrrghhh | oh well. have fun developing tiles dude :P | 23:32 |
arrrghhh | i do like the freakin concept of a TP3 tho :( | 23:32 |
Kraln | eh, it's not fun | 23:32 |
Kraln | it's spending money ;) | 23:33 |
arrrghhh | heh | 23:33 |
Totem-Schalter | CAN anyone look at this and may be help me with some insight on where to look in the script to find my problem ,, trying to load Backtrack5 ARM on my G1 .. this is the code http://paste.ubuntu.com/638271/.. and this is my error http://paste.ubuntu.com/638273/ thanks | 23:35 |
arrrghhh | Kraln, get Android running on that beast. | 23:35 |
arrrghhh | Totem-Schalter, lolwut | 23:35 |
Totem-Schalter | he he | 23:36 |
arrrghhh | this room is mainly about porting Android to WinCE devices... | 23:36 |
Totem-Schalter | oh | 23:36 |
Totem-Schalter | HA! | 23:36 |
arrrghhh | the XDAndroid project is all about that. | 23:36 |
arrrghhh | perhaps #xda-devs? | 23:37 |
Totem-Schalter | ok thanks | 23:37 |
arrrghhh | np | 23:37 |
arrrghhh | Kraln, Android on that phone would be hard with 3 buttons... | 23:38 |
Kraln | 1) it has side buttons | 23:39 |
Kraln | 2) it works fine on the nook :p | 23:39 |
arrrghhh | volume? | 23:39 |
arrrghhh | true | 23:39 |
arrrghhh | :P | 23:39 |
arrrghhh | it works, just is awkward IMHO | 23:39 |
arrrghhh | it's awkward on the TP2 because of the dedicated send/end call butons. | 23:39 |
arrrghhh | although those poor bastards with tmo tp2's that have a home key instead of a windows key | 23:39 |
arrrghhh | i bet they wish that was home and not menu lol | 23:40 |
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arrrghhh | Kraln, if it makes you feel any better, i found a video supposedly with Android on the HD7 | 23:46 |
arrrghhh | not much else really tho. | 23:49 |
arrrghhh | no one on #htc-linux has mentioned anything... | 23:49 |
arrrghhh | there's some hd2 wp7 room | 23:50 |
arrrghhh | not sure how alive it is | 23:50 |
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