arrrghhh | Kraln, wat phone is this http://twitpic.com/4kuial | 00:01 |
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arrrghhh | is that the surround? | 00:01 |
arrrghhh | here's some other one http://twitpic.com/4kuhl7 | 00:01 |
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emwe | hmhm.... 07-06 19:24:21.210 D/GpsLocationProvider( 2203): void android::status_callback(GpsStatus*): +method_reportStatus env=0x0 mCBO=0x4079cdc8 | 11:25 |
emwe | that "env" ptr (JNIEnv*) should not be null in jni GpsLocationProvider... | 11:26 |
emwe | ok, gotta go shopping. laters. | 11:26 |
arrrghhh | cya | 11:53 |
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SpecR | mates, how do you access your SD card from windowss when in android? | 15:24 |
rpierce99 | are you running looped or partitioned? | 15:24 |
SpecR | ?? | 15:25 |
SpecR | dunno | 15:25 |
rpierce99 | data.img or /data partition | 15:25 |
SpecR | how can I know that¡? | 15:25 |
SpecR | data.img | 15:25 |
rpierce99 | you would have had to partition your sd card manually | 15:25 |
SpecR | from android or WinMo? | 15:26 |
SpecR | Running: Linksys embedded, Linux 2.4.X|2.6.X | 15:30 |
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arrrghhh | rpierce99, just assume looped | 15:31 |
arrrghhh | :P | 15:31 |
arrrghhh | SpecR, wtf are you talking about | 15:32 |
arrrghhh | USB Mass Storage doesn't work | 15:32 |
arrrghhh | as i've told you before | 15:32 |
arrrghhh | at least i'm pretty sure we've had this damned convo before | 15:32 |
arrrghhh | you can kinda fake it with Droid Explorer tho | 15:32 |
SpecR | im sure we havent | 15:36 |
SpecR | anyway, good to know | 15:36 |
arrrghhh | uh huh | 15:38 |
arrrghhh | don't make me go to the logs dude. i'm pretty sure we have. | 15:38 |
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emwe | stinebd: i've identified the gps issue. on gb they dropped a vm registered polling thread in the GpsLocationProvider which carried the JNIEnv ptr in TLS. now our gps lib has to use the create_thread_cb of the GpsCallbacks struct to create it's pthread which then gets registered via AndroidRuntime::createJavaThread(). unfortunately the gps-rpc code calls the update_gps_* hooks as well which to me looks like librpc sets up its own | 16:55 |
emwe | threads. need to figure a way how i can have the update events being fired by the gps_status_thread in gps_msm7k itself. dunno if it's possible to have the rpc threads being pulled through AndroidRuntime... | 16:55 |
arrrghhh | dang | 16:56 |
arrrghhh | you really hacked at that emwe, good work. | 16:56 |
emwe | guess why there are no kernel updates... | 16:56 |
arrrghhh | hehehe | 16:56 |
emwe | next thing in kernel is likely the wakelock issue when plugging extusb headset. kills sleep. annoys me to run a wakelock keeping app in order to not have the device suspend/resume in a 1 sec loop | 16:58 |
emwe | think that's not that great for the hw. | 16:58 |
emwe | i use to listen a lot of music @ work... so this is a showstopper. | 16:58 |
arrrghhh | heh | 16:58 |
arrrghhh | fix 3.5mm while you're at it :D | 16:58 |
emwe | abel already got me some code he hacked up for .27.... so only time will tell. | 16:59 |
arrrghhh | cool | 17:00 |
emwe | apart from that, i did a little smd_tty change again to resemble .27 a tad bit more. no smd bug/crash yet. | 17:00 |
arrrghhh | that would be very nice. | 17:00 |
arrrghhh | nice | 17:00 |
emwe | rhod is running now fine since ehm.. dunno. 2.5 days or so without resets. | 17:00 |
emwe | still some audio/acoustic stuff... was playing music through headset then a call arrived, unplugged extusb and got no sound in the call... | 17:01 |
emwe | car garage must have thought i am playing tricks on them. | 17:01 |
emwe | but they played tricks on me... 650 euro for gf audi car repair... | 17:01 |
arrrghhh | lol | 17:01 |
arrrghhh | sounds like typical Audi repairs... $$$ | 17:01 |
arrrghhh | sorry, €€€ | 17:02 |
emwe | was including ehm... technical check thingy. TÃœV :) | 17:02 |
arrrghhh | sounds kinky | 17:02 |
emwe | dunno if you got that in us. | 17:02 |
emwe | car is forced to be checked every 2 years for public traffic fitness. otherwise you won#t get the sticker and it's not to be moved in public anymore. | 17:03 |
emwe | sorry my strange english^^ | 17:03 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 17:04 |
arrrghhh | np | 17:04 |
arrrghhh | we kinda have that | 17:04 |
arrrghhh | emissions testing | 17:04 |
arrrghhh | every state is different too, cali is very strict | 17:04 |
arrrghhh | Wyoming, I don't think they even have any emissions lol | 17:04 |
arrrghhh | basically make sure the car isn't polluting more than it should... | 17:04 |
arrrghhh | simple test, $25 i think. | 17:04 |
emwe | emission test is part of it. but the technical fittness ... brakes, tires, lights, windscreen wipers(?), everything. | 17:05 |
arrrghhh | damn | 17:05 |
arrrghhh | yea, cali does more rigorous testing than any other state. definitely don't have that here. | 17:05 |
arrrghhh | they test the emissions, and make sure the gas cap seals lol | 17:05 |
arrrghhh | here's your sticker | 17:05 |
emwe | ticking bombs on your roads ^^ | 17:06 |
arrrghhh | i hear it's much harder to get a driver's license in Germany tho | 17:06 |
arrrghhh | eh, it's the driver's problem if their car is not up to snuff. | 17:06 |
emwe | i assume yes. | 17:06 |
arrrghhh | like you have to get a private tutor and pay a lot of money just to take the driver test in Germany | 17:06 |
arrrghhh | and if you fail, you must wait 6 months and do it all over again. | 17:06 |
emwe | yap iirc that wait on triple fail is correct. | 17:07 |
arrrghhh | zomg | 17:07 |
arrrghhh | our driving test is a joke compared to that... | 17:07 |
arrrghhh | answer 15 stupid questions and pay $15 or smth. | 17:08 |
emwe | my parents paid quite some bugs for my "small" motorcycle license @ 16 and then i did car and "big" motorcycle @18 which cost again quite some. | 17:08 |
arrrghhh | no individual instructor, can retry as many times as you want for free AFAIK | 17:08 |
emwe | wow. | 17:08 |
arrrghhh | yea, it's crazy | 17:08 |
arrrghhh | how easy it is to get a license here | 17:08 |
arrrghhh | and i don't think they ever make you retake any of the tests. | 17:08 |
arrrghhh | you have to go renew, but just go down and pay $15 again to get a new license. | 17:08 |
arrrghhh | i've never had to retake any tests... | 17:09 |
emwe | i have to retake that gps thingy ;) | 17:09 |
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arrrghhh | lol | 17:09 |
emwe | dunno if it'll be that fruitful this evening. | 17:09 |
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arrrghhh | eh | 17:12 |
arrrghhh | i won't hold it against you | 17:12 |
emwe | so yap, looks like these update_gps_* hooks are called from yet another thread which is a nono now. | 17:33 |
rpierce99 | emwe: are you troubleshooting the sleep bug or trying to fix gb? | 17:35 |
emwe | fix gps on gb. and sleep could be evaluated afterwards. | 17:35 |
emwe | nearing the former. | 17:35 |
rpierce99 | ah i thought it would require a rewrite, that's good news | 17:37 |
emwe | stinebd brought it into new api style a while ago. | 17:38 |
rpierce99 | that guy is a sneaky-hard worker, he makes it seem like he's lazy, but I know better | 17:42 |
stinebd | um no, i'm incredibly lazy, in fact | 17:43 |
arrrghhh | lol | 17:44 |
arrrghhh | shame on you for thinking otherwise rpierce99 | 17:44 |
rpierce99 | saying he's lazy is part of the sneakiness arrrghhh | 17:44 |
emwe | there he is ;) | 17:44 |
rpierce99 | you're falling for his ninja tactics | 17:44 |
arrrghhh | i see | 17:44 |
arrrghhh | i've fallen for lesser ninja's. | 17:44 |
arrrghhh | did it just get really gay in here? | 17:45 |
rpierce99 | that depends, when did you get here? | 17:45 |
arrrghhh | zing! | 17:45 |
arrrghhh | you're the mac phanboi, not me ;) | 17:45 |
rpierce99 | oh snap | 17:46 |
stinebd | how do i get my marketing related tweets to go to google+? | 17:46 |
arrrghhh | i don't know that you can... | 17:46 |
stinebd | therefore google+ sucks | 17:47 |
arrrghhh | lol | 17:47 |
arrrghhh | google+ seems to integrate with other services | 17:47 |
arrrghhh | but i don't think other services integrate with google+ (yet) | 17:47 |
rpierce99 | you can sms google plus, rig up something to send an sms when you tweet | 17:49 |
arrrghhh | heh | 17:50 |
arrrghhh | quittin time, cya guys. | 17:58 |
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stinebd | slickdaddy183 or whatever, you're all set. no more whining | 18:17 |
rpierce99 | stinebd: i see you guys were talking about mmsc for cdma, doesn't each cdma carrier have a unique mcc/mnc that is used as a key for the apn list? | 18:29 |
stinebd | don't know | 18:30 |
rpierce99 | that's how gsm works | 18:30 |
rpierce99 | i guess i'm not sure if the mcc/mnc we get from the ril is hardcoded or from the provider | 18:31 |
stinebd | before rewriting it was hardcoded to the same value for all cdma providers | 18:31 |
rpierce99 | it looks like it queries for it in the else block at line 2015, but ril code is a foreign language to me | 18:33 |
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emwe | gtg. need to rework that gps update event stuff in a hopefully acceptable manner. gnight. | 18:43 |
arrrghhh | night | 18:45 |
stinebd | looks like on american cdma providers (at the least) we get a valid mcc but mnc=0 | 18:45 |
stinebd | on all of them | 18:45 |
rpierce99 | yeah i get 310 00 | 18:45 |
arrrghhh | 310/00 works | 18:45 |
rpierce99 | arrrghhh: the question is does verizon get something other than 310 00 | 18:46 |
stinebd | so we can't just set apns | 18:46 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, i don't see why not | 18:46 |
arrrghhh | rpierce99, yes, let me check | 18:46 |
stinebd | because they all have the same mcc/mnc | 18:46 |
rpierce99 | oh mcc is country code | 18:46 |
rpierce99 | network code is empty | 18:47 |
stinebd | ideally we'd have the ril use mmsc info based on some other network identifier (pretty name?) | 18:47 |
arrrghhh | ah crap, that's the operator.numeric build.prop setting | 18:47 |
rpierce99 | that's not used anymore i thought | 18:47 |
rpierce99 | ril sets it | 18:47 |
arrrghhh | yea | 18:48 |
rpierce99 | stinebd: i think ideally we'd get a valid mnc and use apns | 18:48 |
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stinebd | uh | 18:48 |
stinebd | we can't get a valid mnc | 18:48 |
rpierce99 | i'm talking ideal world, like if we all had gsm :) | 18:48 |
stinebd | the issue here being that north american cdma providers do not set mnc | 18:50 |
stinebd | at least on the tower to device link | 18:50 |
stinebd | backhaul probably uses an mnc | 18:50 |
rpierce99 | xdandroid adding the qr code for all of their attachments is genius | 18:59 |
mes | stinebd, I see you made a commit to system_wlan_ti to change the device name to wlan0, does that work? | 19:00 |
rpierce99 | err xda-developers | 19:00 |
stinebd | mes: if it doesn't work, i wouldn't have committed it | 19:00 |
mes | I see, some reason that change to my tree still leaves a tiwlan0 device name | 19:00 |
stinebd | there are frameworks, rootfs and libhardware_legacy changes relevant to that issue as well | 19:01 |
stinebd | well maybe not frameworks | 19:01 |
mes | I think those were in hyc's trees but he was trying to just link the name to wlan0 | 19:02 |
mes | if it works for you there must be something that is not right here | 19:02 |
stinebd | link? | 19:02 |
stinebd | there's a rootfs change which is not in a public git repository yet | 19:03 |
mes | ip link old_name new_name | 19:03 |
mes | oh? | 19:03 |
stinebd | https://gitorious.org/xdandroid/rootfs/commits/frx07preview | 19:06 |
stinebd | i will not provide support for that | 19:06 |
mes | it doesn't work now anyway | 19:08 |
arrrghhh | so stinebd have you talked to jb lately? | 19:10 |
stinebd | no | 19:10 |
stinebd | audio routing won't be in frx07 | 19:11 |
stinebd | stop asking | 19:11 |
arrrghhh | i know | 19:11 |
arrrghhh | i'm just wondering how it's coming along | 19:11 |
arrrghhh | i haven't "seen" him in ages. | 19:11 |
arrrghhh | bleh, he hasn't updated anything on git in ages either. | 19:13 |
stinebd | wtf git | 19:13 |
stinebd | why u no push all commits | 19:13 |
stinebd | ooh user error | 19:14 |
arrrghhh | lol | 19:14 |
stinebd | now real branch up | 19:14 |
stinebd | i'm learning local tracking branches so forgive my ineptitude | 19:15 |
stinebd | it's a required concept for a certain frx07 feature that i'm keeping closed source | 19:16 |
arrrghhh | don't sweat it champ | 19:16 |
arrrghhh | Oo | 19:16 |
stinebd | you win an internet if you find out what it is | 19:16 |
stinebd | and don't say it here | 19:16 |
arrrghhh | lol | 19:16 |
stinebd | huge spike in comments on my blarg after retheming it | 19:23 |
stinebd | 2. | 19:23 |
arrrghhh | those bastards with their front-facing cameras | 19:26 |
mes | stinebd, was there a change to /etc/wifi/wlan_loader ? | 19:45 |
stinebd | git log | 19:45 |
mes | in the tree that is not publicly available? the rootfs that supports #define TIWLAN_DRV_NAME "wlan0"? | 19:51 |
stinebd | i made the tree publicly available just for you | 19:51 |
stinebd | stop getting tudey | 19:52 |
stinebd | and yes i have corrected my git merge fail as well ;) | 19:53 |
mes | tudey? ya, nothing was there after May6, couldn't really understand what you were talking about | 20:04 |
stinebd | there is now | 20:05 |
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Tandyman100 | The TP2 runs android way faster than the TP, correct? | 21:31 |
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stinebd | not really | 21:31 |
Tandyman100 | From what I saw it has the exact same specs, just a WVGA screen. | 21:32 |
stinebd | there's a marginal improvement likely attributable to turbo mode | 21:32 |
Tandyman100 | Turbo mode? | 21:32 |
stinebd | in the end it's not noticeable | 21:32 |
Tandyman100 | vtec just kicked in, yo. | 21:32 |
Tandyman100 | Hmmok. I guess I'll just wait and save for an HD2 | 21:33 |
arrrghhh | lol | 21:35 |
arrrghhh | it's the same proc | 21:35 |
arrrghhh | same ram specs | 21:35 |
arrrghhh | and more pixels to push | 21:35 |
arrrghhh | tmo hd2 has way better specs... | 21:36 |
Tandyman100 | Well, yeah. | 21:37 |
Tandyman100 | 1GHz snapdragon, almost 500mb of RAM, etc. | 21:38 |
stinebd | or you could get an android phone | 21:38 |
stinebd | to run android on | 21:38 |
Tandyman100 | what's the fun in that? | 21:38 |
arrrghhh | lol | 21:38 |
Tandyman100 | I'm really looking at the HD2 because it runs WP7 as well as Android | 21:38 |
arrrghhh | WP7 suxxors | 21:38 |
Tandyman100 | how so? | 21:38 |
arrrghhh | and android on it... isn't like android on a native device | 21:38 |
arrrghhh | i think of WP7 like i do iOS | 21:39 |
arrrghhh | boring static unchanagable things | 21:39 |
Tandyman100 | I've seen/used it, seems REALLY snappy | 21:39 |
Tandyman100 | heh | 21:39 |
arrrghhh | it's fast | 21:39 |
arrrghhh | the UI is fast... | 21:39 |
arrrghhh | but the browser blows donkey balls | 21:39 |
Tandyman100 | yeah, it's not that customizable | 21:39 |
arrrghhh | and there's only one AFAIK | 21:39 |
Tandyman100 | but for a lot of people that doesn't matter | 21:39 |
Tandyman100 | No | 21:39 |
Tandyman100 | There's Opera Mobile 11 for WP7 | 21:39 |
Tandyman100 | I think... | 21:39 |
arrrghhh | do you know | 21:39 |
Tandyman100 | now I'm not sure | 21:39 |
arrrghhh | cuz we have wp7 tester phones @ work | 21:39 |
Tandyman100 | :s | 21:39 |
Tandyman100 | other than the lack of customizability and crappy browser, it still seems to me like iOS for people who don't want an iPhone | 21:40 |
Tandyman100 | someone who wants something simple | 21:40 |
Tandyman100 | regardless | 21:40 |
Tandyman100 | the HD2 is a beast of a phone | 21:41 |
arrrghhh | yes | 21:41 |
Tandyman100 | MeeGo, Winmo, Android, Ubuntu, WP7 | 21:41 |
* Tandyman100 drools | 21:41 | |
arrrghhh | no kbd, no thanks. | 21:41 |
arrrghhh | MeeGo? | 21:41 |
Tandyman100 | bluetooth keyboard. | 21:41 |
arrrghhh | yea, how conveinent. | 21:41 |
Tandyman100 | :P | 21:41 |
arrrghhh | i didn't know they got MeeGo workin on it | 21:41 |
Tandyman100 | I've been using a Diamond, I got used to using an onscreen keyboard. On a bigger screen, I think it'd be pretty usable. | 21:41 |
Tandyman100 | I thought they did... | 21:41 |
arrrghhh | why do you lie child | 21:42 |
Tandyman100 | because memory glitches | 21:42 |
stinebd | so between meego, winmo, android, and wp7 | 21:42 |
stinebd | there's one useful mobile os available for hd2 | 21:42 |
stinebd | and it's not native | 21:42 |
Tandyman100 | Winmo | 21:42 |
Tandyman100 | *runs* | 21:42 |
arrrghhh | *stabs* | 21:43 |
stinebd | sounds like a good investment to me | 21:43 |
Tandyman100 | there's NAND for HD2... | 21:43 |
Tandyman100 | there's even builds with the new Sense rubbish, right? | 21:43 |
arrrghhh | yes. | 21:43 |
stinebd | if you're buying hd2 for android you'll be disappointed | 21:43 |
Tandyman100 | howso? | 21:43 |
arrrghhh | they give you the runs tho | 21:43 |
arrrghhh | stuff like gps doesn't work well | 21:43 |
arrrghhh | because no one RE'd the whole GPS crap with warm injection, XTRA updates (internet info on sat loc) | 21:44 |
Tandyman100 | ah. Hmm. So what would be a good sub-$150 GSM Android device? | 21:44 |
stinebd | atrix is $100 right now | 21:44 |
arrrghhh | you don't care about lack of a kbd | 21:44 |
arrrghhh | i think he wants to buy it off-contract | 21:45 |
Tandyman100 | ^ | 21:45 |
arrrghhh | dhd maybe, dunno what those run | 21:45 |
stinebd | hd2 <$150 off contract? | 21:45 |
Tandyman100 | Used, yes. | 21:45 |
arrrghhh | yea | 21:45 |
Tandyman100 | if you get lucky on Craigslist. | 21:45 |
stinebd | then that goes for any current android phone too | 21:45 |
Tandyman100 | Wow, Droid Eris' with broken screens for $50 eac | 21:48 |
Tandyman100 | each* | 21:48 |
Tandyman100 | screens aren't that expensive... | 21:48 |
arrrghhh | assuming you have the skill to replace it | 21:48 |
arrrghhh | have at it | 21:48 |
stinebd | http://cgi.ebay.com/Broken-Motorola-Atrix-/330584469388?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item4cf85eaf8c#ht_500wt_1188 | 21:48 |
arrrghhh | lol | 21:48 |
stinebd | looks like my n1's screen | 21:48 |
stinebd | maybe even worse | 21:49 |
stinebd | mine had a more defined web | 21:49 |
arrrghhh | that's pretty damned bad | 21:49 |
Tandyman100 | woah what the hell | 21:49 |
stinebd | i threw mine at an oncoming truck | 21:49 |
stinebd | just for the lulz | 21:49 |
Tandyman100 | http://wichita.craigslist.org/mob/2430372996.html | 21:50 |
Tandyman100 | wow | 21:50 |
stinebd | then i remembered i had an overseas trip in two days. lulz gone. | 21:50 |
Tandyman100 | ew | 21:50 |
Tandyman100 | >HVGA | 21:50 |
Tandyman100 | nope. | 21:50 |
Tandyman100 | ...aaaand gtg | 21:51 |
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stinebd | guess it was bed time | 21:51 |
stinebd | arrrghhh: how many gold skulltulas are in the spirit temple? | 21:53 |
arrrghhh | at least 17 | 21:56 |
arrrghhh | rebootski | 21:57 |
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arrrghhh | why didn't we convince him the RHOD would scream | 22:01 |
arrrghhh | would've been much more fun | 22:02 |
arrrghhh | tell him to get a Vogue | 22:02 |
arrrghhh | lol | 22:02 |
bzo | hi arrrghhh | 22:06 |
arrrghhh | hello sir bzo | 22:06 |
bzo | I'm in CO right now | 22:08 |
bzo | your neck of the woods :P | 22:08 |
arrrghhh | heyhey! | 22:08 |
arrrghhh | where abouts? | 22:08 |
bzo | co springs | 22:08 |
arrrghhh | nice. my sister lives down there :P | 22:08 |
arrrghhh | pikes peak hill climb was... last weekend i think? | 22:09 |
bzo | sheesh, this area is full of military dudes and evangelical christians | 22:09 |
arrrghhh | i wanted to go, heh | 22:09 |
arrrghhh | LOL | 22:09 |
arrrghhh | yes. | 22:10 |
arrrghhh | it is jesus/military country. | 22:10 |
arrrghhh | there's one of the largest wacko chruches in the country down thar | 22:10 |
bzo | you closer to denver? | 22:10 |
arrrghhh | yea, i'm in it in fact. | 22:10 |
bzo | yeah, with the shooting last year right? | 22:10 |
arrrghhh | something like that | 22:10 |
arrrghhh | there was some gay dude as well | 22:10 |
arrrghhh | who ran this crazy huge megachurch | 22:11 |
bzo | right, I think I drove past that stadium church the other day | 22:11 |
arrrghhh | i dunno, i don't follow that crap very closely :P | 22:11 |
arrrghhh | heh | 22:11 |
bzo | well, at least the folks here a nicer and more mellow than CA | 22:11 |
arrrghhh | heh | 22:12 |
arrrghhh | head ot the mountains | 22:12 |
arrrghhh | it gets more chill for the most part | 22:12 |
bzo | I have to keep my road warrior instincts in check here | 22:12 |
arrrghhh | there's the occasional crazy mountain man that just wants you to get the fuck off his property | 22:12 |
arrrghhh | lol | 22:12 |
bzo | I can completely understand that, thinking about becoming one of those guys | 22:13 |
arrrghhh | but yea lots of good 4-wheelin campin great shit in the springs | 22:13 |
arrrghhh | hahaha | 22:13 |
arrrghhh | mountain man bzo | 22:13 |
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arrrghhh | nice | 22:14 |
mmbzo | damn, thought the sky sox game was rained out but seems to have started | 22:14 |
mmbzo | gotta run, bbl | 22:17 |
arrrghhh | cya | 22:17 |
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arrrghhh | g2g | 22:42 |
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stinebd | google+ invites are open for now | 22:52 |
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rpierce99 | people on my google+ are posting on google+ that google+ invites are active again | 23:01 |
stinebd | it hasn't been publicized well | 23:03 |
stinebd | so that's useful actually | 23:03 |
rpierce99 | i set up google+ so it posts to my facebook also, it's very hackish | 23:04 |
stinebd | but i want the opposite-ish | 23:07 |
stinebd | twitter -> g+ | 23:07 |
rpierce99 | you can go the other way: http://www.buzzingup.com/2011/07/how-to-share-google-plus-posts-on-facebook-and-twitter/ | 23:08 |
stinebd | no want other way | 23:08 |
stinebd | screw google | 23:08 |
stinebd | except android | 23:08 |
stinebd | uh oh battery time over | 23:08 |
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