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| touchpro | if anyone is around, i had a strange thing happen, i pushed hyc's framework.jar and phone.apk to my vogue to see what would happen (quest to have cdma on vogue) and it totally disabled my radio for some reason lmao | 01:30 |
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| touchpro | thank god for backups | 01:32 |
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| hyc | I suspect you need more than just framework and phone. there were rootfs changes too. | 02:09 |
| smiley- | he left | 02:14 |
| jonpry | my rhod is cloning linux-msm-rhod | 02:19 |
| hyc | yeah I know, but it's all logged so wth | 02:20 |
| hyc | jonpry: you're running git on your phone? sweeet | 02:20 |
| jonpry | yeah over your adb ppp | 02:20 |
| hyc | I was building the touchbook OS on my tb | 02:21 |
| jonpry | nice :) | 02:21 |
| jonpry | building android is probably pushing it | 02:21 |
| hyc | oh dude, that's painful. lucky to get 100KB/sec | 02:21 |
| jonpry | 200 right now which is basically the limit of my internet | 02:21 |
| hyc | wow | 02:22 |
| hyc | 600Mhz omap3 is nice, but still better to crosscompile from pc | 02:22 |
| jonpry | much better than the horrible thing i was doing over telnet earlier. that would die after 64kb | 02:22 |
| hyc | yow | 02:22 |
| jonpry | is that the always innovating deal? | 02:23 |
| hyc | yep | 02:23 |
| jonpry | that thing was pretty nice. hard to find though | 02:23 |
| hyc | I wrote their wifi driver, got a free TB out of it | 02:24 |
| hyc | also wrote their hulu player | 02:24 |
| jonpry | flash? | 02:24 |
| hyc | nope. rtmpdump to mplayer | 02:25 |
| jonpry | thats like youtube on olpc | 02:25 |
| hyc | 'course hulu keeps changing their security, we had to update like every other week | 02:25 |
| jonpry | the touchbook has some kind of nand chip? | 02:26 |
| jonpry | this stupid sd is just too slow | 02:27 |
| jonpry | i'm too close to gluing a hard disk on the back, or ssd | 02:27 |
| hyc | lol. tb has an sd slot | 02:28 |
| jonpry | compilation has to be io bound | 02:28 |
| hyc | original had 256M ram, I got that and a special with 512M | 02:28 |
| hyc | yes, which is why you max out write cache | 02:29 |
| jonpry | tp2 has no memory left for cache | 02:30 |
| jonpry | is there some way to kill system_server and the shebang for a bit? | 02:32 |
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| jonpry | just need to get apache up on this thing | 02:35 |
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| hyc | yes | 03:00 |
| hyc | "stop servicemanager" | 03:00 |
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| touchpro | hey hyc, i did the rootfs changes too, the point when the radio quit was right after the update framework.jar | 03:04 |
| touchpro | im racking my brains trying to figure out whats going on, i followed the guides to the T and i eventually gave up for the night and reflashed | 03:05 |
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| hyc | bummer | 03:38 |
| hyc | get logcats next time | 03:39 |
| GlemSom | is 2.6.35 building? Or am I using a wrong toolchain ? | 04:21 |
| emwe | GlemSom: let me know the errors and i can look it up at home. it should. | 04:50 |
| emwe | GlemSom: i am using 2010.q3 (arm-2010-09 thingy) | 04:50 |
| emwe | though i am likely the only one compiling it ;) | 04:50 |
| emwe | htc_msm_android_defconfig | 04:50 |
| hyc | has anyone else noticed that the lowest brightness setting is actually brighter than the 30% screen brightness level? | 05:09 |
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| GlemSom | arch/arm/mach-msm/built-in.o: In function `saved_state_end': | 05:12 |
| GlemSom | htc_headset.c:(.data+0x649c): undefined reference to `tpa2016d2_set_power' | 05:12 |
| GlemSom | make: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1 | 05:12 |
| emwe | hyc: yeah i did. that likely comes from the "different" brightness level handling. | 05:13 |
| emwe | i really whonder why such code wen't trhough. | 05:13 |
| emwe | the caps/fn handling in microp-ksc is a nightmare codewise as well | 05:13 |
| emwe | instead of incorporating in the other switch case, replicated on top with 50 linex extra code... | 05:13 |
| GlemSom | using htc_msm_android_defconfig too | 05:13 |
| emwe | GlemSom: you can mail me the error? don't hesitate to spam | 05:14 |
| emwe | GlemSom: no additional components though.. no tiwlan, no compat-wireless, no compcache. i think all three (not sure) need adjustment to build with .35 | 05:14 |
| GlemSom | emwe: I've enabled those - but it failes before that... with the zImage creation.. | 05:15 |
| smiley- | hmm.. 0% brightness is lower than 30% for me | 05:15 |
| smiley- | (on gb) | 05:16 |
| GlemSom | emwe: Complete buildlog emailed | 05:18 |
| emwe | smiley-: this is rhod specifc | 05:18 |
| smiley- | ah | 05:20 |
| emwe | GlemSom: oh. i will look it up at home. has to do with thte recent rhodium audio driver changes. whonder if i haven't updated defconfig. i will fix it when i get home. | 05:20 |
| emwe | GlemSom: thanks for looking into this! | 05:20 |
| hyc | it pisses me off because even the dimmest setting is often too bright. like if you're in a movie theater.... | 05:21 |
| hyc | definitely gotta get wistilt2 to divulge how to dim the buttonlights | 05:21 |
| emwe | hyc: you meant button lights? thought you talked about lcd... | 05:23 |
| emwe | that's definitively having an issue when switching. | 05:23 |
| hyc | lcd is too bright, yes | 05:24 |
| hyc | buttonlights right now are binary, on or off | 05:25 |
| hyc | wistilt2 said there's a way to dim them | 05:25 |
| hyc | would be cool to have soft fade on both of them | 05:28 |
| hyc | mebbe they shouldn't fade on though. On should be instant, off should fade out. | 05:29 |
| hyc | dunno | 05:29 |
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| D3tul3 | how goes it jonpry did you get the cleaner to engage | 08:33 |
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| GlemSom | emwe, As requested: http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux-2.6.35/ | 12:01 |
| GlemSom | I still need to fill the database with text for the webpage... But, that'll be some other day... | 12:02 |
| GlemSom | btw, build is 100% UNTESTED!! ;) | 12:02 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 12:02 |
| arrrghhh | it's got one positive vote tho | 12:02 |
| GlemSom | (And no TI or other wireless drivers!) | 12:02 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 12:03 |
| GlemSom | arrrghhh, Ok, to be honest - that was be testing the voting... ;) | 12:03 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahahaha | 12:03 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 12:03 |
| arrrghhh | now there's two | 12:03 |
| GlemSom | I webpage is supposed to automatically detect new builds from the buildhost - and setup everything... And - seems it worked... except for 1 SQL statement.. But that was easily fixed :) | 12:03 |
| GlemSom | note to self... When loading the list if builds - it's REALLY important to remember to include the WHERE statement... :P | 12:04 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 12:04 |
| GlemSom | If anyone have ideas for text on the buildsite - please drop me an e-mail... I'll be AFK for a little while... | 12:05 |
| emwe | GlemSom: neato! thank you! I'll send you an email with some texts if my time permits. | 12:22 |
| smiley- | "Latest kernel. Works on all devices. 5 days standby time, HTC sensation speed due to discovery of hidden optimized parameters" there you go ;) | 12:31 |
| smiley- | optimizing | 12:31 |
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| emwe | lol? | 12:34 |
| jonpry | where is the 39 autobuild :p | 12:37 |
| arrrghhh | you shoulda asked :P | 12:37 |
| emwe | you didn't ask. | 12:38 |
| emwe | :) | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:38 |
| jonpry | i've almost got it running on my phone | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | that's epic | 12:38 |
| emwe | what? rhod2 buildserver? | 12:38 |
| emwe | errr rhod | 12:39 |
| jonpry | Receiving objects: 100% (54087/54087), 531.86 MiB | 214 KiB/s, done. | 12:39 |
| jonpry | Resolving deltas: 100% (15183/15183), done. | 12:39 |
| jonpry | warning: remote~/linux-msm# git clone http://gitorious.org/linux-msm-rhod/linux-msm-rhod.gitfatal: destination path 'linux-msm-rhod' already exists and is not an empty directory. | 12:39 |
| jonpry | ugh | 12:39 |
| jonpry | do i have to start over? yeah rhod build server, and soon to be webserver | 12:40 |
| D3tul3 | jonpry: wifi works for me on an open network...haven't had a chance to test it w wpa | 12:41 |
| jonpry | you have a cdma rhod? | 12:42 |
| D3tul3 | yeah | 12:42 |
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| jonpry | i thought it would work :p | 12:42 |
| D3tul3 | did you figure out why your daemon wasn't engaging? | 12:47 |
| smiley- | mmm.. it's not booting on the kovsky.. how suprising ;) but on the autobuild one it doesn't even buzz twice | 12:47 |
| emwe | smiley-: only rhod and topa machines are added to that kernel | 12:49 |
| smiley- | ah | 12:49 |
| emwe | smiley-: and in opposite to .39 we are trying to refactor some stuff and this means not taking over old code. | 12:49 |
| emwe | smiley-: but kovsky should really be doing fine if you'd compile alex' tree. at leat from his statements. but there's some pending userland stuff which needs to get done/released in order for it all to work fine. | 12:50 |
| GlemSom | We're working on a .39 too now? | 12:50 |
| emwe | GlemSom: jonpry and WisTilt2 are. there was that autobuild page shown to you yesterday. | 12:51 |
| smiley- | emwe: yeah.. but as you know that freezes for me :( | 12:51 |
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| emwe | smiley-: ah | 12:51 |
| GlemSom | JFYI, If it's hosted using GIT, I can farily easily add it to my service... | 12:51 |
| emwe | GlemSom: what's that login on that page? just for you or for some peeps like me for editing text? | 12:51 |
| emwe | GlemSom: http://gitorious.org/linux-msm-rhod/ | 12:52 |
| GlemSom | emwe, A few people have login - which can edit my site directly (text only) | 12:52 |
| GlemSom | emwe, I have a friend of mine doing spell-checking... As I REALLY suck with that! ;) | 12:52 |
| emwe | GlemSom: is that login limited to a specific autobuild page? | 12:52 |
| GlemSom | emwe, Nope, it's global | 12:52 |
| GlemSom | emwe, And, since my ยค#%#&#%&# retarded webhost decided to upgrade PHP, I'm a bit unsure if it's still working... | 12:53 |
| emwe | GlemSom: ah hm. otherwise i'd have opted-in for a login and could always reflect the "broken" state of the code in the toplevel text. | 12:53 |
| GlemSom | I was actually looking a little at: http://www.hetzner.de/hosting/produkte_vserver/vq7 | 12:53 |
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| GlemSom | emwe, Ok, I might fix it then... I have a few session issues I'll need to sort out first... Again, do to my free webhost chaning settings without me knowing about it.... | 12:54 |
| emwe | GlemSom: no hurries. if you are ok with a login for me, and i can take some burden of you. the text need to reflect the quite minimal feature and device support. otherwise people would expect it to work as fine as .27 and .39 ;) | 12:56 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 12:56 |
| emwe | apart from requiring an updated haret and a modified startup.txt | 12:56 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: well yeah, it's the truth. sadly. | 12:56 |
| GlemSom | emwe, Yeah, it's the login part that does not work - due to a session issue... ;) | 12:56 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, oh i know. all too well... | 12:57 |
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| emwe | arrrghhh: if this fscking full xdandroid gb build is not getting me into trouble again then i am going to look after what acl wrote regarding 35mm on rhod400 | 12:57 |
| arrrghhh | w00t | 12:58 |
| arrrghhh | me likey 3.5mm | 12:58 |
| emwe | repo sync'ed yesterday and com.android.phone crashed all the time. | 12:58 |
| emwe | yeah, but you won't like the other state of .35 rhod i bet. | 12:58 |
| emwe | it's ok if you don't need wifi, bt, camera, fn+caps :) | 12:59 |
| emwe | oh, missed leds :) | 12:59 |
| arrrghhh | i don't need any of those things | 12:59 |
| arrrghhh | dude, cam works on .39 :P | 12:59 |
| emwe | copyig microp-klt, microp-ksc would've been easier :) | 12:59 |
| emwe | yah, i just don't enable all at once | 12:59 |
| emwe | didn't even on topa | 12:59 |
| emwe | i am trying to carefuly test what each "feature" affects | 13:00 |
| arrrghhh | that's a good idea | 13:00 |
| emwe | like alex switched some mmc code logic and it never disabled mmc vregs... | 13:00 |
| arrrghhh | otherwise you'll lose track of what was committed | 13:00 |
| emwe | i didn't enable his mmc due to that. | 13:00 |
| arrrghhh | and then if something breaks, who knows what the cause was... | 13:00 |
| emwe | exactly. one by one. and i am also trying to care for userland a bit. | 13:00 |
| arrrghhh | good man | 13:00 |
| emwe | didn't you wan't to push stine from his throne anyway? ;) | 13:01 |
| emwe | btw, i tried that fix_permissions.sh script yesterday. works neato. | 13:01 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:02 |
| arrrghhh | pretty sure i don't want to push stine anywhere | 13:02 |
| arrrghhh | unless it's towards a new release :P | 13:02 |
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| emwe | heh | 13:03 |
| emwe | btw, what is that bitten by a spider thingy all about? | 13:03 |
| emwe | you telling me that's common in northern america? | 13:03 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 13:03 |
| arrrghhh | lots of spiders | 13:03 |
| arrrghhh | i rarely get bit | 13:03 |
| arrrghhh | my gf seems to be tasty, she gets bit a few times a week it seems... | 13:04 |
| arrrghhh | and i guess stine ran into some nest and pissed 'em off. | 13:04 |
| emwe | never got bitten by a spider. | 13:04 |
| arrrghhh | usually you can tell if there's two little pin-holes | 13:05 |
| arrrghhh | pretty much like a mosquito bite, unless the spider is special or you're allergic. | 13:05 |
| emwe | allthough i don't like that word: amazing. | 13:05 |
| arrrghhh | black widows, brown recluses... | 13:05 |
| arrrghhh | you don't like amazing? | 13:05 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:05 |
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| emwe | no, my former boss during student times always used that word. | 13:09 |
| emwe | like this: AMAAAAAAAAAAAZIIIIIIIIIINGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111111111111111111111eleven | 13:09 |
| emwe | apparently he stopped holding shift too early. | 13:10 |
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| emwe | supper time. laters. | 13:10 |
| jonpry | D3tul3, i couldn't download that stuff from mediafire | 13:14 |
| jonpry | and i still don't have a conf, but my situation is hurting at this point. my chroot is now 4.8GB | 13:14 |
| jonpry | at some point it got up to 64MB of swap during the git checkout. i thought the thing died. no ping, nothing. then like 2 minutes later it came right back to life | 13:14 |
| D3tul3 | that's crazy | 13:16 |
| D3tul3 | i think all you need is that .conf file in /etc | 13:19 |
| D3tul3 | i could mail you a copy | 13:19 |
| jonpry | i just copied one from my laptop | 13:20 |
| jonpry | it seems to have free ~1% | 13:21 |
| jonpry | is [file-storage] it? | 13:21 |
| D3tul3 | not following you about [file-storage].....copy it to /etc set protection period 0, set min_clean 0, kill all your cleaners and start one fresh | 13:22 |
| jonpry | kernel thread i have no seen before | 13:23 |
| jonpry | space arriving slowly :) | 13:24 |
| D3tul3 | never seen it either | 13:24 |
| D3tul3 | nice | 13:25 |
| D3tul3 | min_clean 0 means continuous clean, at some point you'll probably want to adjust that as the daemon pegs the cpu a bit | 13:26 |
| jonpry | renice? | 13:26 |
| D3tul3 | not sure, i've played with my .conf file a bit to get it to a place where under normal operation the daemon wouldn't kick in more than once a day | 13:29 |
| jonpry | i'm sure there is some messing with it to do | 13:33 |
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| jonpry | still need to get my daemon running boot | 13:33 |
| jonpry | recovered 2GB so far | 13:39 |
| D3tul3 | chrt -m on the daemon gives me 1/99 | 13:39 |
| D3tul3 | oh i guess that's just the range | 13:40 |
| jonpry | there also ionice | 13:45 |
| D3tul3 | do you think renice-ing to something really low is a good idea? | 13:55 |
| arrrghhh | for a daemon like that... i think it'd be OK | 13:57 |
| jonpry | sounds like the desired effect to me. run when you can but always yield | 14:00 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: is my haret-package link referenced in the xda forums or is it (hopefully) hosted somewhere else? | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | i attached it to a post :P | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | you want me to host it somewheres? | 14:06 |
| emwe | ah ok. could we host it on filex.xdandroid.com? | 14:06 |
| emwe | files... | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | yea i can throw it up thar | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | i have access | 14:06 |
| emwe | ah cool. that'd be cool. don't wan't to link it to my dropbox | 14:07 |
| jonpry | just put it on rhodium webserver | 14:08 |
| jonpry | j/k | 14:08 |
| emwe | you needed some distraction from .39? | 14:09 |
| jonpry | arrrghhh, reckert is high | 14:09 |
| jonpry | emwe, theres nothing left to do except bluetooth | 14:10 |
| arrrghhh | reckert? | 14:10 |
| jonpry | on xda | 14:10 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 14:10 |
| jonpry | going on about sdcard block sizes | 14:10 |
| emwe | don't make me cry jonpry. | 14:10 |
| jonpry | the only non 512 byte card were pre SDHC standard 2GB | 14:11 |
| D3tul3 | alright jonpry a little lesson in linux for me, renice-ing a process changes it's dynamic proprity right? so once it goes active and linux does whatever it does with it - increase decrease it's priority your initial setting is not remembered right? | 14:11 |
| jonpry | its not remembered across reboots or process restarts. but should maintain until a process quits | 14:12 |
| jonpry | emwe, sorry | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, join the .39 train | 14:12 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: what shall i join there. all done. ^^ | 14:13 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:13 |
| jonpry | add new devices :p | 14:13 |
| arrrghhh | then go sob in the corner :P | 14:13 |
| arrrghhh | lol that's a good point. | 14:13 |
| arrrghhh | i have tunnel vision sometimes, there is moar than just RHOD | 14:13 |
| D3tul3 | jonpry: i got another log from a session where my power button stopped working, though my kernel is prior to you taking off bt | 14:14 |
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| jonpry | reproduce that on the no bt kernel | 14:16 |
| emwe | ah right, there was that little fact about rhod-only... | 14:17 |
| D3tul3 | i'll be on the lookout for it, can't think of any common denominators the couple of times it's happened | 14:18 |
| jonpry | basically just need the gpio defines for topaz | 14:18 |
| jonpry | there is no rhyme or reason afaict. the bluetooth chip just starts blasting out data and it hammers the wake interrupt. i haven't entirely determined why that effects the power button more than anything else. but i suspect it has to do with gpio interrupts and some sort of priority scheme | 14:20 |
| jonpry | the end button doesn't work very well either | 14:20 |
| jonpry | there is also that code we don't have for missing gpio interrupts during hammer time | 14:21 |
| arrrghhh | hammer time | 14:23 |
| stinebd | [13:05:30] <arrrghhh> pretty much like a mosquito bite, unless the spider is special or you're allergic. << or if there's 500 of them | 14:30 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 14:30 |
| arrrghhh | touche. | 14:30 |
| stinebd | still swollen | 14:30 |
| stinebd | i have diabetic feet | 14:31 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:31 |
| stinebd | but no diabeetus | 14:31 |
| arrrghhh | diabeeeetus | 14:31 |
| arrrghhh | why would the spokesperson not know how to say that | 14:31 |
| arrrghhh | awesome | 14:31 |
| stinebd | wilford brimley doesn't have to know | 14:31 |
| arrrghhh | he was "on" colbert report the other day | 14:32 |
| arrrghhh | it was hilarious | 14:32 |
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| emwe | arrrghhh: when are you heading home? (asking the haret package upload) | 14:57 |
| arrrghhh | oh poop | 14:57 |
| arrrghhh | i can upload it now | 14:57 |
| arrrghhh | assuming i can remember the username... | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | this happens to me everytime too. i guess i should take down some notes on it... | 15:00 |
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| arrrghhh | stinebd, meep | 15:03 |
| arrrghhh | what user do i use...? | 15:03 |
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| arrrghhh | oy | 15:08 |
| stinebd | xdandroidmirror | 15:09 |
| arrrghhh | thank you! | 15:09 |
| arrrghhh | hrm... still fails. let me make sure i have the right privkey | 15:09 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:10 |
| arrrghhh | i guess when i upgraded putty it forgot to carry that over... | 15:10 |
| stinebd | you make my life miersable | 15:10 |
| stinebd | miserable | 15:10 |
| arrrghhh | i do what i can | 15:10 |
| emwe | when are you both going to marry? | 15:11 |
| arrrghhh | well the engagement isn't going so well | 15:11 |
| stinebd | we certainly do screw each other a lot though | 15:12 |
| emwe | but think of all the presents! | 15:12 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:12 |
| arrrghhh | i think that's the only reason people get married anymore | 15:12 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, it is done | 15:13 |
| arrrghhh | should get mirrored & online soon... | 15:13 |
| emwe | stinebd: i know you are ultra busy with FRX07 ... did you intend to apply all sorts of froyo-patches applicable to gb yourself or would that messed up by someone else? | 15:14 |
| stinebd | we'll figure that out after frx07 | 15:14 |
| emwe | stinebd: so i should rather hold off pushing stuff to gingerbread, yes? | 15:15 |
| stinebd | yes | 15:15 |
| emwe | ok. | 15:15 |
| arrrghhh | lol i just uploaded it as haret.zip | 15:17 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps that wasn't so bright... | 15:17 |
| emwe | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12183048/htctopaz/haret-package-2010-11-23.zip | 15:18 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, i already uploaded it | 15:18 |
| arrrghhh | but i just named it haret.zip | 15:18 |
| emwe | it sounded like you intended to rename that's why i posted the link | 15:19 |
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| arrrghhh | oh | 15:23 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not sure i can... | 15:23 |
| emwe | stinebd: the vendor repo should not be around/used anymore, right? | 15:24 |
| arrrghhh | might have to have sir stine do it | 15:24 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. website is up, i cannot seem to ssh back in... | 15:24 |
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| stinebd | you bum | 15:33 |
| stinebd | you can ssh in as xdandroidmirror@... and run xdaftpconsole | 15:33 |
| stinebd | what do you want it named? | 15:34 |
| stinebd | haret-for-dudes-with-tiny-johnsons.zip? | 15:34 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 15:40 |
| arrrghhh | please | 15:40 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, i dunno what happened (gonna blame work network) but i can't ssh in now. | 15:41 |
| arrrghhh | yea, something's up. i can ssh from my server @home. | 15:42 |
| GlemSom | arrrghhh, heh, someone been blocking with shorewall or something... ? ;) | 15:43 |
| arrrghhh | shorewall, heh | 15:44 |
| arrrghhh | we use cisco hardware firewalls... | 15:44 |
| arrrghhh | and there's a few | 15:44 |
| GlemSom | arrrghhh, yeah - but might still be a locally installed software firewall blocking... :P | 15:44 |
| arrrghhh | i dunno | 15:44 |
| arrrghhh | i'm ssh'd to my server | 15:44 |
| GlemSom | I've seen that on quite a few Linux distro's lately... :) | 15:44 |
| arrrghhh | not sure why it would magically stop working. probalby some other setting i've missed... | 15:45 |
| arrrghhh | WinXP :P | 15:45 |
| stinebd | linux is lame | 15:45 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh only uses quality microsoft products | 15:45 |
| arrrghhh | so no security to speak of | 15:45 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 15:45 |
| arrrghhh | don't really have a choice | 15:45 |
| stinebd | what do you want it named arrrghhh? | 15:45 |
| stinebd | before i leave soon | 15:45 |
| arrrghhh | haret-package-2010-11-23.zip is fine | 15:45 |
| arrrghhh | thanks man | 15:45 |
| stinebd | why are we uploading stuff from last year? | 15:45 |
| arrrghhh | ask emwe | 15:46 |
| arrrghhh | he didn't like it in a post on xda-devs | 15:46 |
| stinebd | renamed | 15:46 |
| stinebd | gonna have to let the files.xdandroid.com mirror sync it up | 15:46 |
| stinebd | so use htcandroid links for now | 15:47 |
| stinebd | or i could nudge it seeing as i'm already logged into that account | 15:47 |
| arrrghhh | nudge it? do tell | 15:47 |
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| arrrghhh | is there some script you run? | 15:47 |
| emwe | stinebd: it's the date from the last change of the git repo. the build is from 2011/01 iirc | 15:47 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: i ssh in and run the mirror script by hand | 15:48 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: i am ok with the post on xda though not everybody might be registering there downloading from the autobuild pages. | 15:48 |
| stinebd | whereas normally it's cronned | 15:48 |
| arrrghhh | ah i'll just check cron | 15:48 |
| arrrghhh | thx | 15:48 |
| GlemSom | There's been 20 downloads of the 2.6.35 package... Not much really... :P | 15:48 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, ah right you need an acct to download attachments. nbd. | 15:48 |
| emwe | already?! | 15:49 |
| emwe | i should get that texts up there... | 15:49 |
| emwe | page updated. it got a bit red'ish... | 15:50 |
| emwe | GlemSom: all fine? | 15:50 |
| GlemSom | Ohh, I forgot... kernel devs have absolutly no clue about graphical userfriendly design..... | 15:51 |
| GlemSom | naah, just kidding... | 15:52 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:52 |
| GlemSom | it's fine! :) | 15:52 |
| GlemSom | I'm horrible myself - so I'm not gonna blame anyone! :) | 15:52 |
| GlemSom | I actually kinda like it.. | 15:52 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, inofficial isn't a word | 15:52 |
| arrrghhh | unofficial ;) | 15:52 |
| GlemSom | Maybe people would start to actually READ before posting a trillion questions on the XDA forums... | 15:53 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: fixed. thanks. any wording fix is welcome. | 15:53 |
| arrrghhh | GlemSom, not gonna happen. | 15:54 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, np, that's what i do :P | 15:54 |
| GlemSom | emwe, Both buildpages are in the same accesslevel - so you have access to edit both. Fell free to make adjustments to the original page too... :) | 15:56 |
| emwe | GlemSom: thanks. that might come in handy dependant on for how long there's still .27 going on. | 15:57 |
| GlemSom | I'll guess it's gonna be the primary till Wi-Fi start working... | 15:58 |
| GlemSom | Just a guess though... | 15:58 |
| emwe | .39 and 3.0.0 will have taken over long before i get done or be done with it. ;) | 15:59 |
| emwe | stinebd: those proprietary vendor blobs - e.g. libhtc_acoustic.so - used to live in vendor project, right? where are these coming from when not building jb's libacoustic_wince? | 16:00 |
| GlemSom | I still don't understand why Linus didn't name it 2.8 instead... I mean, the difference between 2.2 and 2.4 was MAJOR!, the difference between 2.4 and 2.6 was even bigger... but, 2.6 and 3.0 isn't really like a major upgrade... (Unless you're a Zen user I guess) | 16:01 |
| emwe | i think he argumented that of not being able to count until 40. | 16:01 |
| stinebd | emwe: they don't live in a repository, they're pulled from the dream image when running unzip-files.sh | 16:01 |
| * emwe bangs head ... i already figured that some minutes ago and forgot again | 16:02 | |
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| GlemSom | emwe, I know that feeling! :) | 16:03 |
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| arrrghhh | emwe, that initrd_offset looks different than .39 | 16:15 |
| arrrghhh | but IIRC on .39 they used a huge offset | 16:15 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: that one worksforus (C) (alex uses it too iirc) | 16:15 |
| emwe | try with .39 and see if it breaks. | 16:16 |
| arrrghhh | k | 16:16 |
| jonpry | there is really no reason to not just put it at 64MB | 16:16 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:17 |
| arrrghhh | gonna be adding some more lines to the kernel jonpry ? :P | 16:17 |
| jonpry | not that many | 16:17 |
| jonpry | who has a topaz anyways? | 16:17 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, | 16:17 |
| arrrghhh | ^^ | 16:18 |
| arrrghhh | he's the only dev that has one tho AFAIK | 16:18 |
| jonpry | does that have a rhodium'sh panel? | 16:19 |
| arrrghhh | lol helicopter88 pointed out to me today that the original DIAM is not in the 'legacy devices' section on xda-devs | 16:19 |
| arrrghhh | but the TOPA, Diamond2 is... | 16:19 |
| arrrghhh | how does that happen!?! | 16:19 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry, i think res-wise it's the same.. but i don't think the panel type is the same. | 16:19 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, you thar? | 16:19 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: because they are .... ah don't get me starting | 16:19 |
| emwe | jonpry: you can literally exchange rhod panel code for topa except panel id handling | 16:20 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, it's backwards! how can a device that superceded it be legacy when the original device isn't... | 16:20 |
| jonpry | does topaz have a1010 adc3001 tpa? | 16:20 |
| emwe | jonpry: nothing. | 16:20 |
| jonpry | no power amp? | 16:20 |
| emwe | nothing | 16:21 |
| emwe | has all like rhod except prox a1010 adc3000(?) and tpa2016d2 | 16:21 |
| jonpry | how does the speaker work with no amp? | 16:21 |
| arrrghhh | so the panel is the same? | 16:21 |
| emwe | yes, and it misses that keyboard.... yes. | 16:21 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder why RHOD has so many panel wake issues... | 16:21 |
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| emwe | jonpry: no idea. there's really nothing in terms of audio setup like rhod. topa behaves like the rest of the devices. | 16:23 |
| jonpry | have you used acoustic on topaz? | 16:23 |
| emwe | yes, .35. fine. | 16:23 |
| jonpry | so no microp keypad | 16:24 |
| emwe | no, that's done by gpio-matrix | 16:24 |
| emwe | board-htctopaz-keypad.c | 16:25 |
| emwe | dunno if you can just copy from .27 | 16:26 |
| jonpry | bma150? | 16:26 |
| emwe | hm, how can i prevent $(FOO) being evaluated in a shell script? | 16:26 |
| jonpry | nah the 39 board file is a custom contraption | 16:26 |
| emwe | jonpry: yes, but it's initialized via microp | 16:26 |
| jonpry | mt9t013? | 16:27 |
| emwe | i never cared for cam. let me look in the .27 boardfile :P | 16:27 |
| emwe | jonpry: CONFIG_MT9P012 | 16:27 |
| emwe | 22:26 <emwe> hm, how can i prevent $(FOO) being evaluated in a shell script? <<< anyone? | 16:28 |
| emwe | there's a portion of "text" catted into another file and that one must not be evaluated... | 16:29 |
| jonpry | \$ | 16:30 |
| emwe | ah \$ | 16:30 |
| emwe | lol figured in that second. haha | 16:30 |
| emwe | thanks jonpry | 16:30 |
| jonpry | no problem | 16:30 |
| emwe | and now for my linux-noobishness... is there someway around having to sudo for mount/umount? | 16:31 |
| arrrghhh | su | 16:32 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 16:32 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, gotta be root to mount/umount | 16:32 |
| arrrghhh | if you su to root... | 16:32 |
| emwe | i am not gonna run as root... | 16:32 |
| emwe | just tired of having to sudo for mounting the system image. | 16:33 |
| arrrghhh | well those are your choices dude | 16:33 |
| arrrghhh | i guess you could make an alias? | 16:33 |
| emwe | and who types the pass? ;) | 16:35 |
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| arrrghhh | oh is that your issue? | 16:35 |
| Detule | oh how i would love to be able to un/mount without root access | 16:36 |
| arrrghhh | i figured you didn't like putting sudo in fonrt | 16:36 |
| arrrghhh | front* | 16:36 |
| arrrghhh | Detule, why!?!? | 16:36 |
| arrrghhh | i don't see why it's such a big deal lol | 16:36 |
| Detule | no root access at work | 16:36 |
| arrrghhh | oh well | 16:36 |
| arrrghhh | i think that's different from emwe | 16:36 |
| arrrghhh | he's just lazy | 16:36 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 16:36 |
| emwe | yes, lazy. that's inefficient. even that "mount -o loop system.img" drives me nuts... | 16:37 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 16:37 |
| arrrghhh | that you can alias | 16:37 |
| arrrghhh | but you'd still have to type your sudo pass... | 16:37 |
| arrrghhh | you know what i mean by alias yes? | 16:37 |
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| emwe | a shorthand to set of shell cmds, a fucntion | 16:40 |
| arrrghhh | lol yes | 16:40 |
| arrrghhh | you could alias the mount -o command if you wish... not sure how else to make it easier on you :P | 16:40 |
| emwe | me neither :) | 16:41 |
| arrrghhh | btw, haret package is up | 16:41 |
| arrrghhh | http://files.xdandroid.com/haret-package-2010-11-23.zip | 16:41 |
| emwe | ah yeah. i already linked it up. thanks | 16:41 |
| arrrghhh | np | 16:42 |
| emwe | stinebd: an idea why we are copying the dream libmediaplayerservice.so from 2008 allthough gb builds its own? ever somebody dared to try the gb-built one? | 16:43 |
| emwe | whatever it's purpose is ... | 16:43 |
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| jonpry | emwe. i have limited faith in the panel. but everything else looks pretty good imho | 17:08 |
| emwe | jonpry: limited faith in the .27 code? | 17:10 |
| jonpry | nah i wrote something | 17:10 |
| emwe | from topa-panel? | 17:10 |
| jonpry | i used the current rhod-panel without the detection stuff | 17:11 |
| emwe | how about copy what's there and working? ;) | 17:11 |
| emwe | i use it more or less unchanged except gpio configure during pwr on/off | 17:11 |
| jonpry | hmm | 17:13 |
| jonpry | i'm having trouble uploading this thing | 17:14 |
| emwe | i am having trouble with that uptodate gb build... i could puke. | 17:14 |
| jonpry | want to try a 39 topaz build :) | 17:15 |
| emwe | yap. that's been idling SIMless anyway with .35 | 17:16 |
| jonpry | http://prymfg.com/kernel/zimage_39 | 17:16 |
| jonpry | if it works i'll probably puke | 17:17 |
| arrrghhh | with excitement? | 17:17 |
| arrrghhh | bbl | 17:18 |
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| emwe | booting. | 17:20 |
| emwe | ouch... sd class10 spits out errors again on topa. | 17:22 |
| jonpry | hmm | 17:25 |
| emwe | happy puking jonpry. | 17:25 |
| jonpry | it broke no? | 17:25 |
| emwe | no, it's just scanning media. userland up. | 17:26 |
| jonpry | damn | 17:26 |
| jonpry | i'm sure everything doesn't work | 17:26 |
| emwe | that's another story. but it's up. | 17:26 |
| emwe | just waiting for mediascanner to calm down | 17:26 |
| jonpry | it would sort of work just by setting a rhod machtype | 17:27 |
| emwe | yeah, i mistakenly ran rhod with topa machtype on .35 as well (with limited setup) | 17:27 |
| emwe | speaker works. | 17:28 |
| emwe | yeah, feels like .35 | 17:29 |
| emwe | allthough.. fb might be a tad bit more fluent swiping through the apps on launcherpro | 17:29 |
| jonpry | 3d and what not works? | 17:30 |
| jonpry | adb? | 17:30 |
| emwe | yes, adb. without that i'd have complained right away ;) | 17:31 |
| emwe | 3d works imho. usual gfx issue on neocore with gb | 17:31 |
| emwe | glvendor is als qualcomm. should be fine | 17:32 |
| emwe | camera doesn't though. | 17:32 |
| emwe | wifi=no | 17:32 |
| emwe | but that might be .... ignore wifi. dunno how much i messed up here. | 17:32 |
| jonpry | yeah that was bit sketchy. there were some things i had to do to get it going on rhod. mostly gpio's are claimed by the wrong modules | 17:33 |
| jonpry | about camera | 17:33 |
| emwe | <4>[ 776.167083] RFKILL: unknown device! | 17:34 |
| emwe | 06-23 23:33:27.039 E/bluedroid( 1289): bt_enable: Timeout waiting for HCI device to come up | 17:34 |
| emwe | but hey, it's up. | 17:34 |
| emwe | (the device itself i mean) | 17:34 |
| emwe | oh, batt could use some love. 0% | 17:35 |
| emwe | stinebd: could that updated gapps package cause TelephonyManager not being able to be instantiated and crash com.android.phone? | 17:48 |
| jonpry | bluetooth does't work on rhod either. some kind of userland thing with permissions. but the kernel code is so sketchy that it causes random crashes. so i'm leaning towards disabling it until some real fixes come around | 18:03 |
| emwe | and my userland issue has gone with a brand new data.img. damnit. | 18:04 |
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| jonpry | wifi probably works if you have modules and the new firmware | 18:11 |
| jonpry | at least the camera is broken | 18:14 |
| emwe | you enabled wl12xx? | 18:17 |
| emwe | i think it looks up in /lib/modules/firmware ... also the calibration file | 18:17 |
| emwe | i don't recall if i got it to load | 18:18 |
| emwe | ah noes. i stopped when i figured i needed a compatible wpa_supplicant. alex provided that recently | 18:18 |
| emwe | bah, it's a really bad idea to let the device fall asleep on fresh data.img boot. | 18:19 |
| jonpry | topaz isn't bcm? | 18:19 |
| emwe | topa is ti | 18:19 |
| jonpry | no ti | 18:19 |
| emwe | oh sry, that was the other difference | 18:19 |
| emwe | wl12xx | 18:19 |
| emwe | but then we need a nl80211 compatible wpa_supplicant in userland | 18:20 |
| emwe | alex posted a link on mediafire 2 days ago iirc | 18:20 |
| emwe | with a patched libnl and wpa_supplicant | 18:20 |
| emwe | i haven't followed that yet further. | 18:20 |
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| emwe | wb. gtg. should have 1 hour ago. | 18:47 |
| emwe | cu tomorrow. gnight. | 18:47 |
| jonpry | gnight | 18:49 |
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| Detule | hyc: thanks for running those numbers last night | 22:23 |
| jonpry | hi Detule | 22:26 |
| Detule | hey jonpry | 22:27 |
| Detule | i figure these tests are not reliable unless done on the same sd card | 22:27 |
| Detule | installing an ext2 partition | 22:27 |
| jonpry | that sounds about right | 22:28 |
| jonpry | its also a tad synthetic | 22:28 |
| jonpry | i'm tempted to write an sd card friendly filesystem | 22:29 |
| Xofrats | hey jon, you running chroot on the rhod? | 22:29 |
| jonpry | yep | 22:29 |
| Xofrats | which os you use? | 22:30 |
| jonpry | debian sid | 22:30 |
| Xofrats | anything special that needs to be done? | 22:31 |
| jonpry | installing it was sort of difficult. i don't know what you mean by special | 22:31 |
| jonpry | i still don't have the set of scripts i think are necessary to make is usable | 22:32 |
| Xofrats | well, I tried some ubuntu rootstock, and it didn't like it | 22:33 |
| jonpry | can't use modern ubuntu packages because the are compiled with hard float | 22:33 |
| Xofrats | and arm7, it seems | 22:34 |
| Xofrats | I'd like to get a chroot'ed setup running on rhod | 22:37 |
| Xofrats | so any pointers would be appreciated | 22:37 |
| jonpry | i basically did this with different paths | 22:39 |
| jonpry | http://bayleshanks.com/wiki.pl?tips-computer-android-g1_debian_cyanogenMod | 22:39 |
| jonpry | and sid | 22:39 |
| Xofrats | Cool, thanks | 22:40 |
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| Xofrats | So what's with .35? We doing 3 different kernels now? | 22:45 |
| Detule | 35s been around for a while | 22:46 |
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| Detule | 39 is the real newcomer, it's just progressed somewhat faster | 22:46 |
| Xofrats | any luck figuring out bluedroid? | 22:47 |
| Detule | whatever did happen with 32 and magdlr for the rhodium? | 22:47 |
| Detule | wow cotulla hasn't updated his twitter feed in a while | 22:48 |
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| jonpry | pretty sure bluedroid is a permissions problem | 22:53 |
| jonpry | there are some reports of trouble with user.conf that i think is the same root cause. if we can get one of those problems a little more narrowed down and reproducible it will be good | 22:54 |
| Xofrats | no, user.conf is a different issue | 22:55 |
| jonpry | how do you figure that | 22:56 |
| Xofrats | fle generated is FSCK*.REC and user.conf has rm *.rec | 22:56 |
| Xofrats | see the problem? | 22:56 |
| jonpry | i see the problem with the rm people put in user.conf | 22:57 |
| jonpry | but other troubles with user.conf supposedly exists | 22:57 |
| Xofrats | nope | 22:57 |
| jonpry | hmm | 22:57 |
| stinebd | what's the problem? | 22:57 |
| jonpry | with bluetooth or user.conf? | 22:57 |
| stinebd | with rm *.rec | 22:57 |
| stinebd | too aggressive wildcard? | 22:58 |
| Xofrats | no problem | 22:58 |
| jonpry | capitalization no? | 22:58 |
| stinebd | sdcard is vfat | 22:58 |
| stinebd | case insensitive | 22:58 |
| Xofrats | not in .39 | 22:59 |
| jonpry | the bash wildcard expander is case sensitive | 22:59 |
| stinebd | uh | 22:59 |
| jonpry | maybe not | 23:00 |
| jonpry | anywho something is wrong with the permissions of the bluetooth stuff | 23:01 |
| Xofrats | I have tons of stuff in user.conf, nothing that's cauing problem except the lost cluster file | 23:02 |
| jonpry | like if you run patchram from adb then an hci device pops up. but if you do it from bluetooth user. same command. no hci device | 23:03 |
| jonpry | go figure | 23:03 |
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| jonpry | stinebd, have any ideas about that problem? | 23:05 |
| stinebd | well it works fine with 27 | 23:06 |
| jonpry | indeed | 23:06 |
| stinebd | is the serial device at the same place? | 23:06 |
| stinebd | we're using /dev/ttyHS1 in 27 | 23:06 |
| jonpry | yeah all the same | 23:07 |
| jonpry | everything | 23:07 |
| stinebd | well have you figured out the su issue yet? | 23:07 |
| jonpry | i can't reproduce it | 23:07 |
| stinebd | seems like there's a lot of security related stuff going wrong there | 23:08 |
| jonpry | selinux? | 23:08 |
| stinebd | no, just the general linux security mechanisms | 23:08 |
| jonpry | there are rarely any changes to the ABI | 23:09 |
| jonpry | so i try running titanium backup and it just sits there at asking for root rights. nothing ever shows up to ask about granting them | 23:26 |
| Xofrats | sometimes it does that | 23:30 |
| Xofrats | restart the app | 23:30 |
| jonpry | now i get a not responding whenever i open it | 23:31 |
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| jonpry | bleh finally just worked. says i have root just fine | 23:50 |
| jonpry | Xofrats, compiling kernel on your phone yet? | 23:57 |
| Xofrats | Nah, I still need to get chroot setup | 23:58 |
| jonpry | mine is compiling. may be a bit before it is done though | 23:59 |
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