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arrrghhh | jonpry, so what's up with the archives of .39? | 00:10 |
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arrrghhh | it seems with the new acoustic changes those might be suddenly more relevant... | 00:10 |
jonpry | i dunno. wistilt2 is going to be mia for a bit | 00:10 |
arrrghhh | orly | 00:11 |
jonpry | he said a couple of weeks | 00:11 |
arrrghhh | bummer. | 00:11 |
arrrghhh | oh well | 00:11 |
arrrghhh | pigs can deal. | 00:11 |
jonpry | i'm convinced the bluetooth command being run when i turn it on is not the same thing i get from cat init.rc | grep hciattach -A3 | 00:12 |
jonpry | or download the repo | 00:12 |
jonpry | how could that be possible? | 00:14 |
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arrrghhh | dunno | 00:19 |
jonpry | nm not happening | 00:19 |
Xofrats | try a log to file? | 00:19 |
jonpry | so the first bug is that bluedroid does not ever set ctl.stop on hciattach if it fails | 00:22 |
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arrrghhh | bzo, wassup | 00:48 |
bzo | hi arrrghhh | 00:48 |
Xofrats | brb | 00:52 |
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jonpry | i'm starting to think its a matter of permissions | 00:52 |
bzo | jonpry: you have replicated all the fixes from jb's tree? | 00:54 |
jonpry | yeah | 00:54 |
jonpry | its definitely something with permissions | 00:54 |
bzo | userland too? | 00:54 |
jonpry | well i am using a system and rootfs that support bt on 27 | 00:54 |
bzo | userland must be ok then | 00:55 |
arrrghhh | g2g guys, cya | 00:55 |
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jonpry | so if i run patchram from command line as root. then kthread [hci0] comes up | 00:56 |
jonpry | which i'm pretty sure is what bluedroid is waiting for | 00:57 |
jonpry | but if i run it through ctl.start as user bluetooth the interface never comes up | 00:57 |
jonpry | so i changed hciattach to run as root, which gets me an [hci0]. but nada else | 00:57 |
jonpry | still times out in bluedroid. but i am not able to change permissions on bluedroid, so it probably cannot open the socket | 00:59 |
jonpry | maybe suid :p | 00:59 |
bzo | does .27 not have security on the devices or something? | 01:00 |
jonpry | dunno | 01:00 |
jonpry | there is something called android_paranoid_network but i think that works in the opposite way | 01:00 |
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emwe | moins | 01:35 |
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smiley- | hyc: 1d and no pppd kernel crash.. :) | 03:14 |
smiley- | emwe: after the reboot yesterday it's sunning stable so far | 03:14 |
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emwe | smiley-: my raph100 with stock .27 kernel and SIM too | 03:32 |
emwe | i can't replicate any freezes/SODs | 03:32 |
smiley- | strange | 03:32 |
emwe | this is with the cable plug notification isr in place. nothing reverted | 03:32 |
emwe | but there's a lot of SOD reports in the autobuild comments. | 03:33 |
smiley- | ah | 03:33 |
emwe | i whonder if it has to do with the toolchain used to compile the kernels. dunno which one glemsom uses. | 03:33 |
emwe | i doubt it's userland | 03:33 |
smiley- | hmm.. I think it says in the log | 03:33 |
emwe | i am building frx06 from git myself | 03:33 |
smiley- | I used the 2010-q3 blahblah | 03:33 |
smiley- | I'm on gingerbrean from git | 03:34 |
smiley- | bread | 03:34 |
emwe | nothing in the logs | 03:35 |
emwe | (build logs) | 03:35 |
emwe | also using 2010q3 for kernel | 03:35 |
smiley- | it says | 03:36 |
smiley- | make -C /home/mythtv/android/autobuild.next/repos/linux-msm M=`pwd` ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-linux-gnueabi- modules | 03:36 |
smiley- | at one place | 03:36 |
smiley- | for tiwlan | 03:36 |
smiley- | but that pppd error I got was also unusal according to hyc | 03:37 |
smiley- | happend both on the RAPH and the Kovsky | 03:37 |
smiley- | (same SIM-card) | 03:37 |
emwe | yeah, but that build line doesn't indicate which version of the codesourcery toolchain it is ;) | 03:40 |
emwe | i am still cluless why it works for me.... | 03:41 |
smiley- | nope :( | 03:41 |
smiley- | different revisions of the phone? | 03:41 |
emwe | dunno. seems mostly all 5225 based devices are nitpicker. at least the ones from the "others". | 03:41 |
emwe | raph, black, diam, kovs | 03:42 |
emwe | nitpickier | 03:42 |
smiley- | ok | 03:44 |
smiley- | just let me know if you want me to run some checks or tryout a patch or something.. I'm here 24/7 ;) | 03:45 |
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hyc | heya emwe | 05:18 |
hyc | so the libaudio stuff I built is from JB's froyo branch | 05:18 |
hyc | last update to that is May 22 | 05:18 |
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hyc | he's got a bit more in his froyo-acoustic-dev branch | 05:18 |
hyc | has annyone tried that stuff yet? | 05:18 |
hyc | last update there is June 1 | 05:19 |
emwe | hyc: yeah, there's a regression. stick to what you've got i'd say | 05:20 |
hyc | ok | 05:20 |
emwe | i also reverted. can't recall what rev i worked on. | 05:20 |
emwe | it has earphone audio routing issue on topa at least. | 05:20 |
hyc | bummer | 05:20 |
hyc | this is userland not kernel issue right? | 05:20 |
emwe | got up rhod acoustic on .35 just yesterday. all fine yet. | 05:20 |
emwe | this is userland | 05:20 |
hyc | cool | 05:21 |
emwe | reverting userland back to where i was (dunno commit'ish offhand) fixed the earphone routing again | 05:21 |
emwe | need to fix some microp stuff regarding acoustic... or rather the audio processor chip mangement. | 05:21 |
emwe | draining power a lot | 05:21 |
emwe | according to jonpry the chips are controlled via microp. i stubbed that. still working though. | 05:22 |
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emwe | so, now please tell me why every device SODs and my three here don't.... | 05:23 |
hyc | heh. I haven't had any SODs in a long time | 05:23 |
emwe | but you said you reverted the DEX ISR, right? | 05:24 |
emwe | that's the one i am talking about... | 05:24 |
hyc | dunno what's the story with that spontaneous reboot. happened twice, nothing incriminating in the SYSTEM_LAST_KMSG | 05:24 |
hyc | actually no, I haven't reverted it yet | 05:24 |
emwe | ah | 05:24 |
hyc | was going to try it, got lazy | 05:24 |
emwe | i only cuold reprodude freezes with that DEX ISR before my patch. | 05:24 |
emwe | one could even plug cable and it would be shown in log. just no screen turning on again | 05:25 |
emwe | (no adb functionality though) | 05:25 |
emwe | but dumping ramconsole via haret showed it then. | 05:25 |
smiley- | for me it rebooted when plugging the cable | 05:25 |
emwe | perhaps it's a deadlock waiting for a htc-batt-smem mutex_lock? | 05:25 |
emwe | man.. this nags me. will try to contact glemsom asking about his toolchain | 05:26 |
smiley- | before it did recompile with the patch reverted | 05:26 |
smiley- | it? I .) | 05:26 |
smiley- | :) | 05:26 |
emwe | smiley-: btw, raph still fine here since 12 hours and SIM | 05:26 |
smiley- | I used same toolchain on the kernel that give me SODs | 05:26 |
smiley- | yeah ;) | 05:27 |
smiley- | one reboot since then.. but that was something with the SD-card according to the logs | 05:27 |
emwe | ah no... even longer up. since we talked yesterday afternoon | 05:27 |
smiley- | about 13hr uptime now | 05:27 |
smiley- | and I did use it alot on the train to work | 05:28 |
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smiley- | found a http://tinyurl.com/6zbwbd6 SD-card.. lets hope it works in the RAPH100 | 07:02 |
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emwe | smiley-: just got a SOD while walking home from work. | 10:24 |
emwe | raph that is. | 10:24 |
emwe | so i am gonna revert it looks. | 10:25 |
emwe | we need to figure this later it seems. | 10:25 |
emwe | but battery was also empty. winmo shows 5% | 10:28 |
emwe | that seems be like what i had observed earlier. | 10:28 |
emwe | issue on lower battery | 10:28 |
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smiley- | still running here | 10:40 |
smiley- | about 18 hours or so | 10:41 |
smiley- | it was down to almost 0% | 10:41 |
smiley- | what did last_kmsg say? | 10:42 |
smiley- | so you wasnt hit by the pppd bug | 10:42 |
smiley- | or well.. when pppd diconnsct.. I have that patch compiled | 10:43 |
smiley- | without that it would die alot for me | 10:43 |
emwe | hm. no. it wasn#t anything smd/ppp related. couldn't see something | 10:46 |
emwe | if that would fail it would be visible in dmesg, right? | 10:47 |
smiley- | yeah | 10:47 |
smiley- | kernel panic :) | 10:47 |
emwe | ok then it was likely not that. no, nothing like that | 10:47 |
smiley- | https://gist.github.com/1009156 | 10:48 |
emwe | i could also plug the usb cable and see it in ramconsole dump | 10:48 |
smiley- | like that | 10:48 |
emwe | no, never saw that one. | 10:48 |
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emwe | smiley-: if you see something... https://gist.github.com/1038018 | 10:54 |
emwe | the only strange thing is: [ 4711.193511] Freezing of user space aborted | 10:56 |
emwe | [ 4711.199920] Smack Packet Ha | 10:56 |
emwe | whatever... | 10:56 |
emwe | i've reverted the patch and pushed. | 10:56 |
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smiley- | booting on the new SD-card | 13:31 |
smiley- | but up until this reboot it was running stable for almost 24h | 13:31 |
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JaHu | Hi! | 14:54 |
JaHu | I have problem with my Xdandroid on my HTC Touch Pro 2 | 14:54 |
arrrghhh | ok | 14:55 |
arrrghhh | ask away | 14:55 |
JaHu | I have haret.exe in FRX06 folder on my card | 14:55 |
JaHu | so | 14:55 |
JaHu | when i go to the setting he's crashing | 14:55 |
arrrghhh | uh | 14:55 |
arrrghhh | ok | 14:55 |
arrrghhh | how? | 14:55 |
JaHu | he is blocking everything | 14:56 |
JaHu | sorry for my poor English | 14:56 |
JaHu | O, another problem | 14:56 |
arrrghhh | ... | 14:56 |
arrrghhh | he is blocking everything | 14:56 |
arrrghhh | ? | 14:56 |
JaHu | touch, keys - nothing is working | 14:57 |
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arrrghhh | so it boots? | 14:57 |
JaHu | to reset i must remove battery | 14:57 |
arrrghhh | you see flying text, boot animation (flying androids) and then the lock screen? | 14:57 |
arrrghhh | did you grab a ts-calibration file and startup.txt for your device? | 14:58 |
JaHu | now i have only black screen, orange led is turned on | 14:58 |
arrrghhh | ok | 14:58 |
arrrghhh | answer my questions please | 14:58 |
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JaHu | I start from the begining | 14:59 |
JaHu | I'm turning on my TP2 | 14:59 |
arrrghhh | ok | 14:59 |
JaHu | (i have installed DualBoot by Gen. Y) | 15:00 |
JaHu | ok I see screen of DualBoot | 15:00 |
JaHu | I choose Android | 15:00 |
arrrghhh | i don't care about that | 15:00 |
arrrghhh | just answer my questions | 15:00 |
arrrghhh | did you grab the ts-calibration file | 15:01 |
JaHu | Yes | 15:01 |
JaHu | I put it (exracted) where I have haret.exe | 15:01 |
arrrghhh | ok | 15:02 |
arrrghhh | so i guess finish your tale of doom and gloom | 15:02 |
arrrghhh | i don't really care about Gen.Y either | 15:02 |
arrrghhh | so you run haret.exe | 15:02 |
arrrghhh | then what | 15:02 |
JaHu | I run it | 15:02 |
JaHu | now I have screen od Android - unlock screen | 15:03 |
arrrghhh | ok | 15:03 |
arrrghhh | what device do you have? RHODXXX? | 15:03 |
arrrghhh | I guess RHODXX0 | 15:03 |
arrrghhh | i'm going with RHOD100 | 15:03 |
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arrrghhh | ... | 15:04 |
JaHu_ | Sorry, I have problem with IRC | 15:04 |
arrrghhh | ok | 15:04 |
arrrghhh | what device do you have? RHODXXX? | 15:05 |
JaHu_ | RHOD100 | 15:05 |
JaHu_ | I I turned on the menu now and he fails... | 15:05 |
JaHu_ | touch doesn't work now | 15:06 |
arrrghhh | RHOD100 damnit. | 15:06 |
arrrghhh | i hate that device | 15:06 |
arrrghhh | just stick to WinMo I guess | 15:06 |
arrrghhh | i don't really know what's wrong | 15:06 |
JaHu_ | on the first boot I have a popup | 15:07 |
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JaHu_ | I don't remember what was on it | 15:07 |
JaHu_ | on of the buttons were 'force close' - something like that | 15:08 |
arrrghhh | k | 15:08 |
arrrghhh | stick to WinMo | 15:08 |
arrrghhh | i hear the phone was designed for it | 15:08 |
JaHu_ | can You help me with that? | 15:09 |
arrrghhh | i don't know what the issue is | 15:09 |
arrrghhh | i suggest you use Windows Mobile | 15:09 |
arrrghhh | should work well for you | 15:09 |
JaHu_ | May I reinstall it? | 15:09 |
arrrghhh | touch should work, buttons should work. | 15:09 |
arrrghhh | no fuss | 15:09 |
JaHu_ | but this is working on the start. I wait ~20 sec and then crashes | 15:10 |
arrrghhh | k | 15:10 |
JaHu_ | So, any solution? | 15:12 |
arrrghhh | WinMo | 15:12 |
JaHu_ | Oh, ok | 15:12 |
JaHu_ | However thanks | 15:12 |
arrrghhh | np | 15:13 |
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jonpry | arrrghhh, can you still reproduce this user.conf stuff with the acoustic kernel and stock hyc stuff? | 16:08 |
arrrghhh | hrm let me see | 16:09 |
arrrghhh | yea, the FSCK files are still there. | 16:09 |
arrrghhh | also, i did a fresh boot and i have less than 1mb of RAM | 16:09 |
arrrghhh | system_server says it's taking 211mb. great. | 16:10 |
arrrghhh | maybe i read that wrong | 16:12 |
arrrghhh | but 120% of my memory to one process seems like a receipe for diaster. | 16:12 |
jonpry | i wonder what it is on 27 | 16:12 |
arrrghhh | i can do that | 16:12 |
arrrghhh | been meaning to give the newest autobuild a spin anyways. | 16:12 |
jonpry | its a recipe for kswapd, which means slow slow slow | 16:12 |
arrrghhh | heh | 16:13 |
arrrghhh | do we use swap? i didn't think it was enabled. | 16:13 |
jonpry | i think out bluetooth problems are one in the same with this user.conf | 16:13 |
arrrghhh | orly | 16:13 |
Detule | damn my power button doesn't work again....and i can't get a log, great | 16:13 |
jonpry | oh yeah we have swap. else 130% would have blow up a long time ago | 16:13 |
arrrghhh | lol that's what i thought | 16:14 |
arrrghhh | where does it swap to? | 16:14 |
jonpry | a file in /data | 16:14 |
arrrghhh | ah | 16:14 |
arrrghhh | yea that probably doesn't help. | 16:14 |
jonpry | should be able to run swapon -s | 16:14 |
arrrghhh | although it's obviously necessary with a device that has such little RAM | 16:14 |
jonpry | Detule, pretty sure that is bluetooth | 16:15 |
jonpry | i was going to commit something to autobuild that has it turned off since it doesn't work anyways | 16:16 |
arrrghhh | alrighty fresh boot of .27, let's lookie top | 16:18 |
arrrghhh | lol | 16:18 |
arrrghhh | system_server is using 128% | 16:18 |
arrrghhh | woah, almost 150% now | 16:18 |
jonpry | what is your cached memory? | 16:19 |
arrrghhh | yea dropped back to ~120% | 16:19 |
arrrghhh | woah | 16:19 |
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arrrghhh | 62mb | 16:19 |
jonpry | thats like double the 39 amount | 16:19 |
arrrghhh | lol | 16:20 |
arrrghhh | good lord windows, you make such a mess of ncurses. | 16:20 |
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arrrghhh | fishingmedic, welcome ;) | 16:23 |
fishingmedic | lmao thanks | 16:23 |
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arrrghhh | i'd say most people use a dedicated client. stine just wanted to cut down on the traffic of clueless peoples. | 16:24 |
arrrghhh | which they somehow still find a way here, it's just not as easy :P | 16:24 |
fishingmedic | I understand completely, don't blame him | 16:24 |
fishingmedic | you get enough garbage in the threads, keep it away from here | 16:25 |
arrrghhh | hhahaa | 16:25 |
arrrghhh | as you saw, it doesn't eliminate it. | 16:25 |
arrrghhh | i felt bad for that dude, i just couldn't help him with that language barrier. | 16:25 |
fishingmedic | nah, you did what you could, but man I had a good laugh at that | 16:25 |
arrrghhh | heh | 16:26 |
arrrghhh | jonpry, might've been first boot crap. i'm below 40mb on cache now. | 16:27 |
arrrghhh | whew that insta-plug notification is nice. | 16:28 |
arrrghhh | i heard it may still be causing SoD's tho...? | 16:28 |
emwe | arrrghhh: latest autobuild should have it disabled again | 16:31 |
emwe | could finally reproduce with the raph here after 20 hours or so | 16:31 |
arrrghhh | olry | 16:32 |
arrrghhh | damnit | 16:32 |
arrrghhh | orly | 16:32 |
emwe | oh... | 16:32 |
emwe | noes | 16:32 |
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arrrghhh | i was gonna say | 16:32 |
emwe | autobuild lags | 16:32 |
emwe | so yeah.. | 16:32 |
arrrghhh | latest commit says it's in thar | 16:32 |
emwe | pushed the reverting commit... | 16:32 |
arrrghhh | ah | 16:32 |
emwe | but hasn't caught up | 16:32 |
arrrghhh | when? | 16:32 |
emwe | some hours ago | 16:32 |
arrrghhh | weird | 16:32 |
arrrghhh | GlemSom said it checks every 600 sec | 16:33 |
arrrghhh | damnit, i like the insta-plug poop. | 16:33 |
emwe | yeah. finally managed to reproduce the sod ;) | 16:33 |
arrrghhh | fix it! :P | 16:33 |
emwe | not seen on topa and rhod. | 16:34 |
emwe | no idea how.. except doing mass testing with some kernel debugging perhaps | 16:34 |
arrrghhh | bleh | 16:34 |
arrrghhh | all these devices to support | 16:34 |
arrrghhh | it's insanity | 16:34 |
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jonpry | feel free to try 3.0 kernel 5b416dc whenever it posts. done without phone in hand so could be pretty bad. but is a upgrade to rc4 and import of all fixes to 39 so far | 16:43 |
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arrrghhh | heh | 16:44 |
arrrghhh | so 3.0 has the new acoustic magic? | 16:46 |
arrrghhh | woah i thought you had rc3 of 3.0 out | 16:47 |
arrrghhh | the 'newest' says it's rc2... | 16:47 |
jonpry | the rc1 branch has rc4 code in it | 16:49 |
jonpry | originally i was going to make a branch for all the new rc's but it fell apart | 16:49 |
jonpry | and yes acoustic magic | 16:49 |
arrrghhh | ha | 16:50 |
arrrghhh | ok thx | 16:50 |
jonpry | as of rc3 it was not stable though. hopefully that has changed | 16:50 |
arrrghhh | new kernel up. | 16:50 |
jonpry | arrrghhh maybe you run swapon -s on 27 to see how much swap space ended up being used? | 17:00 |
arrrghhh | sure | 17:00 |
arrrghhh | imma boot 3.0 first | 17:00 |
arrrghhh | so jonpry why no phone? | 17:00 |
jonpry | girlfriend dropped hers in the ocean | 17:01 |
arrrghhh | lol | 17:01 |
arrrghhh | i see | 17:01 |
arrrghhh | uhhh | 17:01 |
arrrghhh | that 3.0 kernel is only a modules file? | 17:01 |
arrrghhh | 251 bytes is the size of the .zip... | 17:02 |
arrrghhh | i'll try that swapon on .27 while you sort that out :P | 17:02 |
jonpry | must have built well | 17:02 |
arrrghhh | lol | 17:02 |
arrrghhh | too well | 17:02 |
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jonpry | without the build log not sure what i can do about it | 17:06 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 17:06 |
arrrghhh | suck. | 17:06 |
arrrghhh | i probably shouldn't have published the autobuild until all that stuff was sorted out. build logs, archives, commits... | 17:06 |
jonpry | nah its cool | 17:07 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 17:07 |
arrrghhh | swapon -s says valid option -- s | 17:07 |
jonpry | usual place zimage_30 | 17:07 |
arrrghhh | k | 17:07 |
jonpry | what kind of options will it take? | 17:07 |
arrrghhh | -a and -p | 17:08 |
arrrghhh | start swapping and device priority | 17:08 |
emwe | jonpry: ever had issues with led_triggers not being triggered, nameliy their cat'ed trigger attribute in sysfs shows none allthough it's set in the code to something else? | 17:08 |
emwe | echo'ing the corrent trigger name into the attribute makes execing led_trigger_event() work as expected... | 17:09 |
jonpry | is that for the new userland led control? | 17:09 |
emwe | it's for clamshell open/close | 17:10 |
emwe | just toying together what alex came up with | 17:10 |
emwe | microp-keypad fires of a named trigger event. | 17:10 |
jonpry | arrrghhh, cat /proc/swaps | 17:10 |
arrrghhh | k | 17:10 |
emwe | that trigger name can be set on the backlight led_classdev.. but after boot the trigger is none... | 17:10 |
arrrghhh | jonpry, ... pretty much empty 1 sec | 17:10 |
jonpry | emwe i had trouble with the function prototype for attributes being different on 27 and 39 | 17:11 |
jonpry | which caused all manner of strangeness | 17:12 |
emwe | it's a led core handled thingy, so i doubt there's sth wrong. | 17:12 |
emwe | led_trigger_register_simple() | 17:12 |
arrrghhh | jonpry, | 17:12 |
arrrghhh | http://i.imgur.com/76dUP.png | 17:12 |
arrrghhh | sorry. i'm confused. | 17:12 |
arrrghhh | it's just... empty. | 17:12 |
jonpry | i guess that needs to be checked in 39 as well | 17:13 |
jonpry | i wonder how kswapd can caused trouble if there is no swap | 17:14 |
jonpry | maybe mmap page faults are handled by kswapd? | 17:14 |
arrrghhh | i can go back to .39 and check. | 17:15 |
arrrghhh | i get work done between reboots lol | 17:15 |
jonpry | gotta have some time for that | 17:17 |
arrrghhh | heh | 17:17 |
Detule | proc/swaps empty on .39 as well | 17:18 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 17:18 |
Detule | and my cache also has not gone down below 55MB | 17:20 |
Detule | fwiw | 17:20 |
jonpry | pretty sure that kswapd is managing memory mapped files at this point | 17:20 |
jonpry | its probably worth a lot. theres a certain point where it will start thrashing | 17:20 |
jonpry | even if its thrashing memory mapped files instead of swap | 17:20 |
arrrghhh | do you think having a 'real' swap partition on the card would help at all? | 17:21 |
arrrghhh | or would that just slaughter my card | 17:21 |
jonpry | it could because some low quality pages cannot be thrown away atm | 17:21 |
jonpry | how much it will help i can't say. there will still be some point where it thrashes itself to death | 17:22 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 17:22 |
jonpry | are you running loop e2? | 17:23 |
arrrghhh | yea | 17:23 |
arrrghhh | card is not partitioned | 17:23 |
jonpry | might help to partition it | 17:23 |
arrrghhh | lies | 17:24 |
jonpry | don't like partition? | 17:24 |
arrrghhh | meh i'd rather not | 17:24 |
arrrghhh | i can i guess | 17:24 |
arrrghhh | with that no_partitions option in the startup.txt makes it a heckuva lot easier. | 17:24 |
jonpry | i'd go with swap first | 17:24 |
arrrghhh | i also switch cards frequently, etc | 17:24 |
jonpry | just make a file on sd | 17:24 |
jonpry | and then swapon | 17:26 |
arrrghhh | make a file...? | 17:27 |
jonpry | mkswap | 17:28 |
arrrghhh | ah. will have to wait until i am home. no linox here | 17:28 |
Detule | oh nice /proc/meminfo .....swap still zero :) | 17:28 |
arrrghhh | linoooks | 17:28 |
jonpry | dd if=/dev/zero of=/sdcard/extra-swap bs=1M count=128 | 17:28 |
jonpry | xdandroid doesn't have mkswap | 17:29 |
arrrghhh | oh right i can do that within Android. | 17:29 |
arrrghhh | good call :P | 17:29 |
jonpry | it might not | 17:29 |
jonpry | all of this is kind of pointless when your swap is getting 20kB/sec though | 17:30 |
arrrghhh | lmao that's a very good point. | 17:30 |
arrrghhh | damnit. gimmie NAND | 17:30 |
arrrghhh | that's your new task jonpry :D | 17:30 |
jonpry | bleh | 17:31 |
arrrghhh | :P | 17:31 |
arrrghhh | i know, you hate NAND. | 17:31 |
arrrghhh | i'm just done with all this SD card futzing and madness. i want to flash and not have to deal with WinMo any moar | 17:32 |
jonpry | seems like most of the problems are in linux | 17:33 |
arrrghhh | well there's nothing *wrong* with winmo per se | 17:33 |
jonpry | personally i haven't had many problems in winmo. always boots, make phone calls. no slowdowns or reboots | 17:33 |
arrrghhh | other than the fact that it's still on my phone | 17:33 |
arrrghhh | agreed | 17:33 |
jonpry | lol | 17:34 |
arrrghhh | so if Android was that stable, would you be more for NAND? | 17:34 |
arrrghhh | HaRET is pretty stable for me, but there's still a lot of crap missing - although that list is getting short. | 17:35 |
arrrghhh | prox sensor is nice to have for sure | 17:35 |
jonpry | i like removable media | 17:35 |
arrrghhh | XTRA/aGPS crap like we talked about is kinda necessary... not sure what i'll do about that. i guess weep and move on. | 17:35 |
arrrghhh | that works with NAND already | 17:35 |
arrrghhh | heck it works on hyc's poop with dedicated partitions | 17:35 |
jonpry | but NAND is not removable | 17:35 |
arrrghhh | oh i see what you're saying. | 17:36 |
arrrghhh | you like being able to remove Android lol | 17:36 |
stinebd | try to keep up here arrrghhh | 17:36 |
jonpry | nah. i like trashing my sd cards and buy another one for $10 | 17:36 |
arrrghhh | heh | 17:36 |
arrrghhh | i haven't trashed an SD | 17:36 |
jonpry | me neither but i have tried | 17:36 |
arrrghhh | hiho stinebd. FRX07? :D | 17:36 |
arrrghhh | hahah | 17:36 |
jonpry | had olpc i used for like a year with sd swap | 17:37 |
arrrghhh | wow | 17:37 |
jonpry | so i could run openoffice and what not with only 256mb of ram | 17:37 |
arrrghhh | heh | 17:37 |
arrrghhh | these phones have what 288? | 17:37 |
arrrghhh | i don't think that's all avail tho | 17:37 |
jonpry | its basically 172 | 17:38 |
stinebd | arrrghhh: still working on ti wifi | 17:38 |
stinebd | you'll know when i know | 17:38 |
arrrghhh | ha | 17:38 |
arrrghhh | ok | 17:38 |
arrrghhh | just curious, are you also waiting for jb's audio routing magic to be done? | 17:38 |
arrrghhh | or will that get curbed for the next release if it's not ready yet | 17:38 |
stinebd | no | 17:38 |
arrrghhh | guten | 17:38 |
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jonpry | arrrghhh, does that 3.0 boot? | 17:41 |
arrrghhh | o right that | 17:41 |
arrrghhh | 1 sec :P | 17:41 |
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emwe | hmpfs... as soon as userland liblights chimes in that led trigger is dropped wtf. | 17:45 |
emwe | reset to "none" | 17:45 |
emwe | will see tomorrow. gnight peeps. | 17:45 |
arrrghhh | g'nite emwe | 17:45 |
jonpry | bye | 17:45 |
arrrghhh | jonpry, Oo both kernels on the autobuild are bunk | 17:46 |
arrrghhh | .39 kernel just has modules as well, no kernel... | 17:46 |
jonpry | just noticed that | 17:47 |
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arrrghhh | 3.0 seems to be in a bootloop for me as well. | 17:55 |
arrrghhh | i haz adb shell tho | 17:56 |
arrrghhh | wow | 17:57 |
arrrghhh | ok, it eventually booted. took days tho. | 17:57 |
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arrrghhh | jonpry, dmesg from 3.0 if you're interested http://pastebin.com/Rg5uzzqP | 18:01 |
stinebd | how bout logcat | 18:02 |
arrrghhh | o sure | 18:03 |
arrrghhh | for you stine, anything | 18:03 |
stinebd | cmon i don't have all day | 18:05 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, http://pastebin.com/gfPuDQeD | 18:05 |
stinebd | not good | 18:06 |
stinebd | not good at all | 18:06 |
arrrghhh | seems like a lot of vomit | 18:07 |
stinebd | groupon has to go | 18:07 |
arrrghhh | lol | 18:07 |
stinebd | that's about 95% of your problem | 18:07 |
arrrghhh | groupon is awesome | 18:07 |
stinebd | it's anring nonstop | 18:07 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 18:07 |
arrrghhh | i guess i can try that hyc trick to disable unnecessary services | 18:08 |
arrrghhh | i certainly don't need that stupid app running all the time | 18:08 |
stinebd | disable all services | 18:08 |
arrrghhh | he had some trcik | 18:08 |
arrrghhh | trick* | 18:08 |
arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13158825&postcount=22 | 18:08 |
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jonpry | arrrghhh, i usually have to delete data.img between 3.0 and 39 | 18:11 |
arrrghhh | oh | 18:11 |
arrrghhh | i did not. | 18:11 |
arrrghhh | i still do need to get around to doing that trick hyc talks about | 18:12 |
jonpry | seems like the kernel is running fine | 18:12 |
arrrghhh | there's probably a ton of stupid apps that start on their own which i do not need running at boot. | 18:12 |
jonpry | may have something to do with why your phone is out of memory | 18:13 |
arrrghhh | perhaps. | 18:13 |
jonpry | just a guess anyways | 18:13 |
arrrghhh | i don't have thousands of apps, but there are quite a few. | 18:13 |
jonpry | rpierce99 has every app from market | 18:15 |
arrrghhh | lol | 18:15 |
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jonpry | along with every android virus | 18:15 |
stinebd | i find it hard to believe anybody uses xdandroid enough to have quite a few apps installed | 18:15 |
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arrrghhh | reminds me, i need to check what new poop from Amazon | 18:16 |
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jonpry | stinebd, why is that? | 18:16 |
stinebd | because the devices on which xdandroid runs are slow as crap | 18:16 |
jonpry | i've heard of people cutting off there left nut for xdandroid | 18:17 |
arrrghhh | lol | 18:17 |
stinebd | i didn't do that FOR xdandroid | 18:17 |
stinebd | i did that because of xdandroid | 18:17 |
jonpry | lmao | 18:17 |
jonpry | we can basically fake any benchmark | 18:17 |
jonpry | apparently tp2 is as fast as nexus 1 | 18:18 |
hyc | heh, still faster than my G1 | 18:18 |
jonpry | and somebody had fps2d saying like 80 for a bit. granted the screen was off, but those are just details | 18:19 |
hyc | except that some apps that ran OK on my G1 are dog slow on the TP2 due to the larger screen rez | 18:19 |
jonpry | need some kind of hardware scaling | 18:19 |
hyc | yes, they probably used the wrong APIs. other apps scale just fine. | 18:20 |
jonpry | arrrghhh, sometimes when it gets funky with the reinstalling of apps. i just kill system_server every 5 minutes. seems to get it installing again | 18:21 |
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arrrghhh | lol | 18:21 |
arrrghhh | that's a good solution... :P | 18:21 |
jonpry | good enough for me :) | 18:22 |
jonpry | after i enabled g sensor. logcat started filling up with all these "Or not..." | 18:25 |
jonpry | wtf is that | 18:25 |
stinebd | or not? | 18:26 |
jonpry | presumably its from libsensors | 18:26 |
stinebd | value=read_light(); | 18:26 |
stinebd | if(value<0) { | 18:26 |
stinebd | LOGD("Or not..."); | 18:26 |
stinebd | return data_poll(dev, data); | 18:26 |
stinebd | } | 18:26 |
stinebd | of course it is | 18:26 |
stinebd | phh with his helpful messages | 18:27 |
jonpry | lol | 18:27 |
stinebd | read_light() depends on the existence of /dbgfs/micropklt_dbg/light | 18:27 |
hyc | ugh | 18:27 |
hyc | libsensors is utter crap | 18:28 |
stinebd | the new one is much better | 18:28 |
hyc | continuous polling, reading debug filesystem, ... | 18:28 |
hyc | which new one? | 18:28 |
stinebd | in gingerbread | 18:28 |
hyc | ah, haven't seen that yet | 18:28 |
arrrghhh | the new one you haven't written hyc | 18:28 |
stinebd | i wrote it | 18:29 |
hyc | :P | 18:29 |
hyc | well the lib needs better device drivers, to operate sanely | 18:29 |
arrrghhh | did you port it back to FroYo stine, or is that not feasible? | 18:29 |
stinebd | not feasible | 18:29 |
arrrghhh | sad. | 18:29 |
stinebd | hyc: the new sensors mechanism in gingerbread makes it work great even with input devices | 18:30 |
hyc | cool | 18:30 |
stinebd | we only have accelerometer in there for now | 18:30 |
stinebd | but hopefully someone will make prox show up as an input device too | 18:30 |
hyc | ok, I guess I'm gonna have to start looking at gingerbreadsoon. once frx07 is out the door. | 18:30 |
stinebd | in their new kernel | 18:30 |
stinebd | hint hint | 18:30 |
arrrghhh | heh | 18:30 |
arrrghhh | stab stab | 18:30 |
stinebd | raise middle finger | 18:30 |
hyc | :D | 18:30 |
arrrghhh | lol | 18:30 |
stinebd | hyc: gingerbread has much better potential for us than froyo, i think | 18:31 |
stinebd | arrrghhh may agree | 18:31 |
hyc | why's that? | 18:31 |
stinebd | it's super fast | 18:32 |
arrrghhh | just snappier feel. newer code. 2.3 > 2.2 | 18:32 |
hyc | heh | 18:32 |
stinebd | i've got a lot of real nice tweaks in it | 18:32 |
hyc | I thought he also said that after the same number of apps are installed, it's just as slow as froyo | 18:32 |
arrrghhh | which he specifically holds back from FroYo | 18:32 |
arrrghhh | yea, we'll just go back to blaming GroupOn | 18:33 |
hyc | anyway yeah, new prox driver, new light sensor driver | 18:33 |
jonpry | lsensor != prox? | 18:34 |
hyc | mebbe get WisTilt2 to reveal how to do variable brightness buttonlights too | 18:34 |
arrrghhh | jonpry, right | 18:34 |
arrrghhh | light sensor is ambient light | 18:34 |
stinebd | prox is some magnetic field sensor | 18:34 |
arrrghhh | prox sensor is sensing when the phone is next to your greasy noggin | 18:34 |
jonpry | picks up my brains magnetic field? | 18:34 |
stinebd | one day i'll look up how those actuall work | 18:34 |
arrrghhh | i thought prox was still light, not sure tho. | 18:34 |
jonpry | that was my interpretation | 18:35 |
jonpry | like prox was just lsensor smashed into a boolean | 18:35 |
arrrghhh | heh | 18:35 |
stinebd | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximity_sensor | 18:35 |
arrrghhh | they're different sensors tho | 18:35 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, lol i'm reading that article | 18:35 |
arrrghhh | which sensor is employed, is the question | 18:35 |
stinebd | i can't find anything about the sensor in the device though | 18:35 |
hyc | seems like winmo disables it when using bluetooth headset http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581793 | 18:38 |
arrrghhh | huh | 18:38 |
hyc | it is very likely the same as the ambient light sensor, dunno | 18:38 |
hyc | cute http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/autoloudspeaker.shtml | 18:41 |
arrrghhh | huh | 18:41 |
arrrghhh | could cause some disturbing results if someone hasn't used your phone before | 18:41 |
arrrghhh | lol | 18:41 |
arrrghhh | nifty tho | 18:42 |
arrrghhh | so the new Market app auto-updates? | 18:43 |
arrrghhh | new data.img, 3.0 seems just as craptacular jonpry... | 18:53 |
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arrrghhh | it could just be my impatience tho. | 18:53 |
jonpry | kill system_server yet? | 18:53 |
arrrghhh | noes | 18:53 |
jonpry | thats an important step to every first boot | 18:53 |
arrrghhh | doesn't that reboot Android? | 18:53 |
arrrghhh | lol | 18:53 |
jonpry | for shizzle | 18:53 |
arrrghhh | you madman. | 18:54 |
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jonpry | stinebd made it that way | 18:54 |
arrrghhh | usually for me the phone reboots and comes up in an unusable state. no service, dog slow, etc. i usually end up rebooting via soft reset. | 18:54 |
arrrghhh | it's slowly getting better | 18:54 |
arrrghhh | i would say no apps installed, but it pulled a few from AndroidApps. | 18:55 |
jonpry | its installing a bunch of stuff from system.img | 18:55 |
arrrghhh | bastards | 18:55 |
arrrghhh | alrighty, runnin good now in fact. | 18:55 |
jonpry | and it brings up the unlock screen *way* before it gets done | 18:55 |
arrrghhh | yea, that's true. | 18:56 |
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jonpry | rc3 seemed to work ok for me. never got more than 4 or 5 hours without an sr | 18:57 |
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pig | don't care to chat with you arrrghh so I'll post my thoughts and bail and let you trash me later. I was reading through the daily logs to not ask questions on the forums.. and saw your "pigs can deal" comment.. if the people on the forums bug you so much why do you bother? the forums a place to ask questions and if god forbid someone asks the same question twice or doesn't read the faqs, you jump on them like you are the ruler of the | 18:58 |
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jonpry | juicy | 18:59 |
arrrghhh | wow | 19:01 |
arrrghhh | classy | 19:01 |
arrrghhh | ruler of the...? | 19:01 |
arrrghhh | aw | 19:01 |
arrrghhh | i want to know what i'm ruler of. | 19:01 |
jonpry | lol | 19:02 |
jonpry | i'm guess its the world | 19:02 |
arrrghhh | the 'pigs can deal' comment was related to .39 and the autobuild. | 19:02 |
arrrghhh | not sure why he's so butt hurt about that. | 19:03 |
jonpry | maybe its tiad8 | 19:03 |
hyc | lol | 19:03 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 19:05 |
arrrghhh | his IP puts him in Georgia | 19:05 |
arrrghhh | comcast cable subscriber | 19:06 |
arrrghhh | alpharetta | 19:06 |
arrrghhh | hmmm | 19:06 |
arrrghhh | probably that steveoski douche. | 19:07 |
arrrghhh | oh well. | 19:07 |
jonpry | you break the 3.0 yet? | 19:10 |
arrrghhh | nope | 19:11 |
arrrghhh | doesn't feel as snappy as .39 tho | 19:12 |
arrrghhh | just enabled sync | 19:13 |
arrrghhh | we'll see what horrors this brings | 19:14 |
arrrghhh | (master) HOW TO BECOME A GREAT ROM BUILDER | 19:18 |
arrrghhh | might want to read this stinebd ^^ | 19:18 |
arrrghhh | lolol. tiad8.com, always a good laugh. | 19:19 |
arrrghhh | so you want to learn how to cook a rom. that's very simple | 19:19 |
arrrghhh | 1- you need linux ( i use ubuntu for windows 7 64bit) | 19:19 |
arrrghhh | 2- | 19:19 |
arrrghhh | wait i will comeback to this post. | 19:19 |
arrrghhh | lmao, that is just way too damned funny | 19:19 |
arrrghhh | alright, 3.0 is running way too well. time to add all my feces. | 19:20 |
hyc | 3 - profit! | 19:21 |
arrrghhh | hahahaha | 19:21 |
arrrghhh | i put that joke in my threads, hardly anyone got it. | 19:21 |
arrrghhh | they were like "you're missing a step" etc. | 19:21 |
arrrghhh | sad | 19:21 |
hyc | lol | 19:21 |
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arrrghhh | D3tul3, you missed it! | 19:22 |
arrrghhh | :P | 19:22 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 19:23 |
arrrghhh | tb seems to think i'm not rooted. | 19:23 |
jonpry | yeah need to figure out whats up with that | 19:25 |
D3tul3 | what did i miss or do i have to read the log | 19:25 |
arrrghhh | eh just ridiculousness. | 19:26 |
arrrghhh | someone hopped in, talked trash about me, and left. | 19:26 |
arrrghhh | it was sad, i didn't even get to thank him. | 19:26 |
jonpry | i'm going to spam that forum | 19:26 |
hyc | no worries, I'm sure he'll read the logs and see any response you care to make | 19:26 |
arrrghhh | yea that's probably true. | 19:27 |
arrrghhh | he's probably reading logs right now, frantically hitting f5 lol | 19:27 |
arrrghhh | jonpry, which? tiad8.com? DO EEEEEET | 19:27 |
jonpry | yeah tiad8 | 19:27 |
arrrghhh | bwhahahahaa | 19:27 |
jonpry | i keep wondering where the teaching is going to start | 19:28 |
arrrghhh | lol | 19:28 |
jonpry | 1- BASIC= (COMMANDS YOU NEED) FOR LINUX (I'M USING UBUNTU 10.04) | 19:28 |
jonpry | empty... | 19:29 |
D3tul3 | not tiad, not in caps | 19:29 |
arrrghhh | that's how good tiad8 is | 19:29 |
arrrghhh | he doesn't need no commands | 19:29 |
jonpry | voice command | 19:29 |
arrrghhh | i don't NEED no instructions, to know how to ROCK | 19:29 |
jonpry | ESP forums | 19:30 |
arrrghhh | i've always wanted to register a user and comment on some of these posts. they're gold... but i can't. just can't do it. | 19:30 |
jonpry | plant for pay links | 19:31 |
arrrghhh | lol | 19:31 |
jonpry | if you write stuff that is sort of on topic around it sometimes the moderators will never even pick up on it | 19:33 |
arrrghhh | i think if they see my handle on there i'll just get permabanned | 19:33 |
arrrghhh | i'll just call my user tiadroid, since they seem to like that name so much. | 19:33 |
arrrghhh | YES | 19:34 |
arrrghhh | the handle wasn't taken. | 19:34 |
jonpry | uh oh | 19:34 |
jonpry | does titanium backup not work if your not root? | 19:36 |
arrrghhh | no | 19:37 |
arrrghhh | on .39 i eventually got it to work tho | 19:37 |
arrrghhh | not sure what changed | 19:37 |
arrrghhh | it just started working. | 19:37 |
hyc | TB requires root, yes | 19:41 |
stinebd | dd never fails | 19:42 |
arrrghhh | well his site got boring quickly | 19:42 |
jonpry | pay homage to this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1002454.html | 19:43 |
stinebd | yo dawgz i'm outside AND in the nets | 19:44 |
arrrghhh | heh | 19:45 |
arrrghhh | that was classic. | 19:45 |
arrrghhh | tiad8 creating puppies, and asking where he went. | 19:45 |
stinebd | Location: NEW YORK | 19:46 |
stinebd | epic win | 19:46 |
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arrrghhh | quittin time, cya guys. | 20:02 |
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hyc | ugh. SoD. Followed by reboot when plugging in cable. Definitely time to revert that cable plug patch. | 20:16 |
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stinebd | maybe i should try this with a fresh data image | 21:28 |
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