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| justem | my wep wifi wont connect | 00:31 | 
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| arrrghhh | read the FAQ | 00:32 | 
| arrrghhh | justem, ^^ | 00:32 | 
| justem | i did how do u use the wifi ace app | 00:32 | 
| arrrghhh | dunno | 00:32 | 
| arrrghhh | i'd recommend you NOT use WEP | 00:32 | 
| arrrghhh | it's insecure | 00:32 | 
| arrrghhh | and easily hacked | 00:32 | 
| arrrghhh | do you have access to the router...? | 00:32 | 
| justem | yes but i dunno how to make the router open instead of wep | 00:33 | 
| arrrghhh | don't make it open | 00:33 | 
| arrrghhh | WPA | 00:33 | 
| arrrghhh | WPA2 | 00:33 | 
| arrrghhh | it's MUCH more secure than WEP | 00:33 | 
| arrrghhh | WEP is an outdated protocol, easily hacked. | 00:33 | 
| justem | how do u make it wpa | 00:34 | 
| arrrghhh | it's in the router settings | 00:34 | 
| justem | instead of wep | 00:34 | 
| arrrghhh | however you made it wep | 00:34 | 
| arrrghhh | on that page | 00:34 | 
| arrrghhh | make it wpa2 | 00:34 | 
| arrrghhh | personal | 00:34 | 
| arrrghhh | i g2g | 00:34 | 
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| Serren | hi all. manekineko, are you around still? | 01:01 | 
| manekineko | yeah though only for a bit | 01:01 | 
| manekineko | get it working yet? | 01:01 | 
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| Serren | nope, but im not booted up with ubunto, so i have full access to my partioions! | 01:02 | 
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| manekineko | cool | 01:02 | 
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| Serren | i just need to know where the files go, per partition. | 01:02 | 
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| Serren | btw, this unbuntu off usb is super slick! | 01:02 | 
| manekineko | yeah it really is | 01:02 | 
| manekineko | so just mount system.ext2 | 01:03 | 
| manekineko | and then switch to that directory | 01:03 | 
| manekineko | and cp -rp all the files onto your p3 | 01:03 | 
| manekineko | which you've already mounted I assume | 01:03 | 
| Serren | i named mine, cache, data, and system | 01:03 | 
| Serren | and i do have access to each | 01:03 | 
| manekineko | if you booted with your card in, presumably those are already mounted | 01:03 | 
| manekineko | yeah ok | 01:03 | 
| Serren | and i also have the fat32 which is called ANDROID | 01:04 | 
| manekineko | wait, why do you have cache partition? | 01:04 | 
| Serren | i used that youtube partiion guide... can i just ignore that one or kill it> | 01:04 | 
| Serren | its a 300mb ext2 | 01:05 | 
| manekineko | yeah, if that's p2, just kill it | 01:05 | 
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| Serren | hmmm, i can unmount or format. is there a cmd line i can kill it with> | 01:06 | 
| Serren | or, i can kill it later | 01:06 | 
| manekineko | you can use the gparted partition editor | 01:07 | 
| manekineko | it's graphical, just right click and choose delete | 01:07 | 
| manekineko | and then fill up the space in your fat32 part | 01:07 | 
| manekineko | you can just do that all later though | 01:07 | 
| manekineko | no need to do it now | 01:07 | 
| manekineko | only thing you really need to be doing in Ubuntu is copying the system files into p2 | 01:07 | 
| manekineko | I mean p3 | 01:07 | 
| Serren | just curious, but how do i know that p3 is system, or is data? | 01:08 | 
| manekineko | p3 must be system, and p4 must be data | 01:08 | 
| manekineko | that's hardcoded in the init file in the rootfs | 01:08 | 
| Serren | im going to rename mine then to that then | 01:09 | 
| manekineko | you can confirm it by typing 'mount' at the command line | 01:09 | 
| manekineko | oh the name's can be anything you want | 01:09 | 
| manekineko | it's the contents that must be those | 01:09 | 
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| tp2RHOD100 | hello evey one | 01:10 | 
| tp2RHOD100 | why i don't download app from market via wifi | 01:11 | 
| Serren | looking at the properties, its showing the 2 as system, data as 3, and cache as 4 | 01:11 | 
| manekineko | properties? | 01:11 | 
| Serren | so much easier over on this side!!! | 01:11 | 
| tp2RHOD100 | but with gprs/edge i can downloaded | 01:11 | 
| manekineko | heh yeah, other than the hassle of downloading and setting up the Live Ubuntu image, it's a lot easier | 01:11 | 
| Serren | disk utility. it shows all the info | 01:12 | 
| manekineko | yeah, you should probably rename those then | 01:12 | 
| manekineko | that sounds lke the setup for something else, clockworkmod/neopeek maybe | 01:12 | 
| hyc | yeah | 01:12 | 
| manekineko | tp2RHOD100, dunno don't have that problem here | 01:13 | 
| Serren | that sounds right. there are so many youtube vids of setting of partions | 01:13 | 
| Serren | i can format or edit partions in this utility | 01:13 | 
| Serren | easily even it looks like | 01:14 | 
| Serren | so mmcblk0p1 is fat32, mmcblk0p2 is system, p3 is data, and p4 is cache. | 01:18 | 
| manekineko | right, so you should probably rename p3 system, p4 data, and delete p2 and resize p1 | 01:18 | 
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| hyc | ... system - data - cache is the clockwrodkmode layout | 01:19 | 
| hyc | and frankly it's a stupid layout, dedicated partition for cache is a waste of space. | 01:19 | 
| manekineko | I'm not wild about our p2 = rootfs setup either | 01:20 | 
| hyc | *clockworkmod | 01:20 | 
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| manekineko | at the least it seems like p4 should be rootfs, since almost no one uses it | 01:20 | 
| hyc | ??? | 01:20 | 
| manekineko | then it's easier to just not create p4 | 01:20 | 
| manekineko | skipping p2 is actually a bit tricky in most partition editors, including gparted | 01:21 | 
| Serren | so it goes in order, from left to right? | 01:21 | 
| hyc | eh. I used fdisk, didn't think twice. | 01:21 | 
| manekineko | plus then the rootfs p4 thing can not even be mentioned | 01:21 | 
| manekineko | whereas right now p2 being skipped is kinda an odd gotcha | 01:21 | 
| Serren | thats whats confusing me, how do i skip p2 | 01:21 | 
| hyc | still makes no sense, usually you use the rootfs partition. | 01:21 | 
| manekineko | Serren, what goes in order | 01:21 | 
| manekineko | really? I don't think anyone is using it | 01:22 | 
| manekineko | Serren, easiest way on a GUI program to skip p2 is to create all 4, and then delete 2 and resize 1 to takeover its space | 01:22 | 
| Serren | oh, the p# is the key right? | 01:22 | 
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| manekineko | yeah | 01:22 | 
| Serren | sorry. i get it. | 01:22 | 
| Serren | is p1 fat32? | 01:23 | 
| hyc | I thought you said you get it. | 01:23 | 
| manekineko | lol | 01:23 | 
| hyc | honest to god manekineko, you're not doing anyone any favors leading him thru this | 01:23 | 
| hyc | he still doesn't understand it and is just going to keep having questions | 01:24 | 
| Serren | accept teaching me something... | 01:24 | 
| hyc | which the rest of us will have to listen to when you're not around | 01:24 | 
| manekineko | haha | 01:24 | 
| Serren | i promise not to bug anyone but manekineko, or arrghhhh, jk | 01:24 | 
| smiley_ | ahh.. there is no such thing as wake up to a Windows Mobile screen ;) | 01:25 | 
| smiley_ | looks like it hitted the drivers/char/tty_ldisc bug again | 01:26 | 
| smiley_ | [12863.103759] kernel BUG at drivers/char/tty_ldisc.c:199! | 01:26 | 
| smiley_ | [12863.103851] Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000000 | 01:26 | 
| smiley_ | by itself | 01:26 | 
| hyc | typical | 01:26 | 
| hyc | that SMD interface is extremely unreliable | 01:26 | 
| hyc | Looking at the smd_tty.c code, I don't think the bug is there. I think the ARM9 is writing to shared memory and the wrong time. | 01:27 | 
| hyc | s/and/at/ | 01:27 | 
| manekineko | alright Serren, I'm heading out now, any final questions? | 01:27 | 
| smiley_ | https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11855 | 01:28 | 
| xdandroid | Bug 11855: was not found. | 01:28 | 
| smiley_ | looks like it was fixed in 2.6.28 | 01:28 | 
| hyc | really. if true we can probably backport the fix | 01:28 | 
| hyc | hm, that bug description sounds different than ours | 01:29 | 
| manekineko | I'm out, night all, Serren don't bother hyc with partition-related questions | 01:30 | 
| hyc | ;) | 01:30 | 
| Serren | ok, maybe i can find you tommorrow night. I really do apprecaite you helping me out! | 01:31 | 
| Serren | and were making progress! | 01:32 | 
| Serren | appreciate | 01:32 | 
| hyc | smiley_: that bug report points to p12303 device driver | 01:32 | 
| hyc | so completely unrelated | 01:32 | 
| smiley_ | hmm.. looks like a driver thing | 01:32 | 
| smiley_ | yeah :( | 01:32 | 
| hyc | like I said, it's the SMD driver | 01:33 | 
| hyc | it goes bad, and then the tty layer on top dies | 01:33 | 
| hyc | I think more to the point, the smd_tty driver isn't signalling line-drop/hangup correctly | 01:34 | 
| hyc | but that's just a suspicion, I haven't loo9ked into it closely | 01:34 | 
| hyc | hm, then again, git log on tty_ldisc.c sounds like relevant fixes were made. dunno. | 01:36 | 
| smiley_ | hmm | 01:37 | 
| smiley_ | http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/patch-tty-ldisc-fix-bug-hangup-help-200819601.html | 01:37 | 
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| hyc | hm, that patch is against 2.6.34, but there's no record of it in 2.6.35 | 01:39 | 
| hyc | so it seems it wasn't accepted in time for .35 | 01:39 | 
| tp2RHOD100 | i can ask for frx06 on tp2 problem? | 01:40 | 
| smiley_ | hyc: I'm gonna try and patch my kernel and see if it gets more stable | 01:41 | 
| hyc | with that emailed patch? | 01:42 | 
| hyc | you might want to look at the commit history of tty_ldisc.c and see what else has changed since .27 | 01:42 | 
| smiley_ | never compiled the android linux kernel myself but done it 2492384 times with normal linux and I guess it's not much difference | 01:42 | 
| smiley_ | yeah | 01:42 | 
| hyc | you just need to make sure you have a recent toolchain | 01:43 | 
| hyc | kernel built with too old a compiler will fail to boot because the code size is too large. | 01:43 | 
| smiley_ | ok.. I have ubuntu 11.04 in a vm | 01:43 | 
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| hyc | smiley_: do you have a full dmesg from one of these errors? | 02:03 | 
| hyc | I'd like to see 10-20 lines earlier | 02:03 | 
| tp2RHOD100 | hello | 02:04 | 
| smiley_ | hmm no last_kmsg did start on that | 02:06 | 
| smiley_ | [ 1417.388488] SMD: ch 7 CLOSING -> OPENING | 02:06 | 
| smiley_ | [ 1417.388610] SMD: ch 7 OPENING -> OPENED | 02:06 | 
| smiley_ | [12863.103759] kernel BUG at drivers/char/tty_ldisc.c:199! | 02:06 | 
| smiley_ | hyc: this is from another time when it happend https://gist.github.com/1009156 | 02:06 | 
| hyc | ok | 02:14 | 
| hyc | so there's no special messages from the SMD driver just before the bug | 02:15 | 
| hyc | (just before, in time) | 02:15 | 
| hyc | I was seeing these before http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12916898&postcount=810 | 02:15 | 
| hyc | usually there was a smd_tty_buffer mismatch right before the tty_ldisc bug | 02:15 | 
| hyc | I've never seen your case, where it happens even without an smd_tty error | 02:16 | 
| smiley_ | I'm on raph100 btw if that makes a difference | 02:16 | 
| hyc | shouldn't really | 02:17 | 
| hyc | I'm about to test this patch http://pastebin.com/uSHB6KCF | 02:19 | 
| hyc | see if it makes a difference for you | 02:20 | 
| smiley_ | ah | 02:21 | 
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| hyc | hmm, that patch seems to have completely broken data for me | 02:30 | 
| smiley_ | hmm | 02:41 | 
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| hyc | it's sending spurious CLOSE events | 02:49 | 
| hyc | this takes care of that http://pastebin.com/NbUbUyuM | 02:50 | 
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| smiley_ | ah :) | 03:05 | 
| smiley_ | you are building an image with it? | 03:05 | 
| hyc | yes, but I haven't run into this bug in quite a long time | 03:08 | 
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