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| arrrghhh | was it off or did you just turn it off? | 00:08 |
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| arrrghhh | lol | 00:09 |
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| mikey_ | hey is anyone online? | 00:29 |
| arrrghhh | do you have a question? | 00:29 |
| mikey_ | yes! | 00:29 |
| arrrghhh | it'd be nice if you'd just ask your question and _wait_ for a response. | 00:29 |
| mikey_ | ok one second. | 00:30 |
| mikey_ | I'm running XDAndroid on my Spring Touch Pro 2. I have the GPS internet calling and most things working. BUT have no ringtones. | 00:31 |
| mikey_ | Sprint9 | 00:31 |
| arrrghhh | can you play them from the menu? | 00:31 |
| mikey_ | no it says Silent. | 00:31 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 00:31 |
| arrrghhh | backup all the data on the cad | 00:31 |
| arrrghhh | card* | 00:31 |
| arrrghhh | format using the HP Tool | 00:31 |
| arrrghhh | full format, FAT32 | 00:32 |
| mikey_ | as in there are no files. | 00:32 |
| arrrghhh | http://www.eocfiles.com/bdc86eb1ed2989c30dcd1902e84939ae/bootdisks/SP27608.exe | 00:32 |
| arrrghhh | then restore all the data or start fresh | 00:32 |
| arrrghhh | your choice | 00:32 |
| mikey_ | what link is that to? | 00:32 |
| arrrghhh | format using the HP Tool | 00:33 |
| mikey_ | OK! do i do a quick formate? or regualr? | 00:33 |
| arrrghhh | full format, FAT32 | 00:35 |
| arrrghhh | anything else you need me to repeat? :P | 00:35 |
| mikey_ | OK then I'll go back and reinstall it. Should this fix my problem?? Have yall gotten the camera to work? | 00:35 |
| arrrghhh | cam works fine | 00:35 |
| arrrghhh | unless you're a poor soul with a RHOD100 and an AUO panel | 00:36 |
| mikey_ | oh ok i tried to take pictures and it kept asking me to insert an SD card. | 00:36 |
| arrrghhh | related to the ringtone issue | 00:36 |
| arrrghhh | and the solution you're doing will fix it as well | 00:36 |
| arrrghhh | i swear this is in the FAQ | 00:37 |
| arrrghhh | oh hey cuz it is | 00:37 |
| arrrghhh | http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Faq#Why_can_Android_not_see_my_SD_card.3F_It_says_.22No_SD_inserted.22.21.21 | 00:37 |
| mikey_ | lol they should post it there. great I'll get to it and hope for the best | 00:37 |
| arrrghhh | what? | 00:38 |
| mikey_ | oh ha haa must have skipped over it!! | 00:38 |
| arrrghhh | post it where | 00:38 |
| mikey_ | to FAQ but it is alread there | 00:38 |
| mikey_ | thanks for your help :-) | 00:38 |
| arrrghhh | yep | 00:38 |
| dadaR6 | Finally got service on FRX06+ !! | 00:38 |
| dadaR6 | now down to BT... | 00:39 |
| mikey_ | have a great night everyone! :) | 00:39 |
| arrrghhh | dadaR6, lol | 00:40 |
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| arrrghhh | that 'just worked' for me on hyc's build... | 00:40 |
| arrrghhh | bedtime, peace | 00:40 |
| dadaR6 | eheh, depends what you mean by 'just worked' | 00:41 |
| arrrghhh | it... just works. | 00:41 |
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| dadaR6 | definitevely not just copy paste some files... | 00:41 |
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| casimirwashingto | hi | 01:02 |
| casimirwashingto | Is there anyone online? | 01:02 |
| casimirwashingto | Will XDAndroid ever be able to use bluetooth? | 01:03 |
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| casimirwashingto | hi | 01:08 |
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| Serren | hey all. Just messing around with a partition build. Ive created the 4 partions, 3 ext, and 1 fat32 | 01:22 |
| Serren | on an autobuild or hyc build, do I put all the files in the fat32, or do I need to put some in one location and some in others | 01:23 |
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| manekineko | Serren, you put everything but system and data in the fat32 | 01:42 |
| manekineko | system goes in partition 3 | 01:43 |
| manekineko | data goes in partition 4 | 01:43 |
| Serren | thanks! | 01:49 |
| manekineko | theoretically, rootfs can go in partition 2, but as far as I know, no one in current XDAndroid usage has ever gotten that to work | 01:49 |
| Serren | and we dont use a linuxswap correct? | 01:50 |
| manekineko | nope | 01:50 |
| Serren | :') good, im on the right track. | 01:50 |
| manekineko | so you can actually remove partition 2, since it's unused | 01:50 |
| manekineko | just make sure the fat32 = 1, system = 3, and data = 4 | 01:51 |
| Serren | thanks for the help! Oh, in windows, what is the best way to move those file into those ext2 sections? | 01:52 |
| smiley_ | hmm.. is this for using XDandroid without the loopbackfiles? | 01:52 |
| manekineko | it's tough in Windows, I recommend getting the Ubuntu Live image, and booting off a USB key to do it | 01:52 |
| manekineko | yes | 01:52 |
| smiley_ | faster? | 01:52 |
| manekineko | probably not, but more stable and with working USB | 01:53 |
| Serren | yeah, I was going to toy with a non loopback build just to test it out. | 01:53 |
| manekineko | well, once you have that going, not much reason to use a loopback anymore | 01:53 |
| Serren | yeah, that is what I am thinking. It seems the logical way to go. If hyc does it, I think I should also | 01:54 |
| manekineko | hah yeah exactly | 01:54 |
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| damik95 | When will the new release be released? | 05:05 |
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| ryannathans | what release? | 05:22 |
| damik95 | With working BT and camera | 05:24 |
| damik95 | For Touch Pro 2 | 05:24 |
| ryannathans | BT works... Testing only atm | 05:26 |
| ryannathans | camera is dodgy, don't think anyones working on it | 05:27 |
| ryannathans | hyc has a working build with bt working | 05:27 |
| ryannathans | all I am going to give you is http://highlandsun.com/hyc/FRX06+/ | 05:27 |
| ryannathans | However we won't be giving support for that. | 05:28 |
| ryannathans | read it all | 05:28 |
| ryannathans | the whole lot | 05:28 |
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| smiley_ | raph100 camera works nice :) | 06:03 |
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| damik95 | I have read that. So I need download ur release and replace files? | 06:51 |
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| has1 | hi | 08:35 |
| has1 | I think i might have some problems with calibrating | 08:35 |
| has1 | i have a rhod100, i first had the froyo build from the thread installed, but sometimes the screen wouldnt turn on after going to sleep(the device was still responding, vibrating when touching the screen etc) | 08:36 |
| has1 | so i formatted using hp tool, tried gingerbread. however when in portrait mode the touch sensor seems to be flipped | 08:37 |
| has1 | when i touch the screen on the top center, it registers it as a touch in bottom center | 08:37 |
| has1 | left/right work fine, so when i touch it in the top left, its registers it as a touch in the bottom left | 08:38 |
| has1 | the weird thing is that when i reformatted and went back to froyo the problem remained | 08:38 |
| has1 | using the same ts_calibration file from the froyo post i used befor | 08:39 |
| has1 | in winmo touch works fine though | 08:39 |
| has1 | has anyone run into this issue before? | 08:39 |
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| Jasdas | Yo all need help with the XDandroid OP ;), my screen sometimes turns black and the button turn Orange please help :P | 09:03 |
| Jasdas | and i can't see anything black is screen but the mobile is running | 09:03 |
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| manekineko | has1, your startup.txt is messed up, there's a setting that governs that | 10:02 |
| has1 | manekino, which setting should i change? | 10:04 |
| has1 | and the problem Jasdas stated happened to me too by the way | 10:04 |
| has1 | manekineko* | 10:06 |
| manekineko | I don't know anything about that black screen one | 10:06 |
| manekineko | sounds like you're using the wrong startup.txt though | 10:06 |
| manekineko | hmmm wait no | 10:06 |
| manekineko | scratch that, the setting I'm thinking of only affects rotation sensor, not touch sensor | 10:06 |
| manekineko | my bad | 10:07 |
| manekineko | wait, the problem with the black screen was intermittent? | 10:07 |
| manekineko | that's just a current bug, if the screen doesn't turn on, just turn it off and on again, sometimes it doesn't turn on but next try should work | 10:08 |
| has1 | sometimes i can get it unlocked again by doing it by touch | 10:09 |
| has1 | but most of the time no luck | 10:09 |
| has1 | with black screen, unlocking the slider, then the screen turns on again | 10:09 |
| has1 | anyway it isnt the startup.txt i think, because i formatted and reinstalled froyo, same problem, even though i didnt have this problem with froyo before | 10:10 |
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| has1 | (the problem with touch, not the black screen) | 10:11 |
| manekineko | yeah, the issue wasn't startup.txt, I was mistaken about that, but I can't seem to recall what causes that issue | 10:13 |
| manekineko | I have seen it around before though | 10:13 |
| manekineko | have you recalibrated? | 10:13 |
| smiley_ | tried different kernels/rootfs? | 10:14 |
| has1 | i tried to use the other kernel, the one from the post(something with 25), but the post didnt provide instructions on how to use it, i just replaced both files and renamed them | 10:16 |
| has1 | but haret.exe didnt boot afterdoing that | 10:16 |
| has1 | i haven't recalibrated, when i formatted and didnt add ts_calibration to root it didnt show a calibration screen during first boot | 10:17 |
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| manekineko | that's a bug in the recent autobuild kernels | 10:22 |
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| manekineko | you can use an alternative kernel like the WisTilt2 one, or one of the old autobuild kernels to calibrate | 10:22 |
| chuvask | why foyo is better that eclair? | 10:28 |
| chuvask | ? | 10:31 |
| manekineko | for XDAndroid or generally? | 10:32 |
| manekineko | eclair is horribly outdated at this point | 10:32 |
| manekineko | for both | 10:32 |
| chuvask | for xdandroid | 10:37 |
| chuvask | but in my point of view eclair is more stable than froyo, no? | 10:39 |
| chuvask | ? | 10:41 |
| chuvask | manekineko | 10:41 |
| manekineko | dunno, never used it | 10:41 |
| has1 | manekineko, so how do i use an older kernel, just replace the files in root, delete ts_calibrate, run haret.exe and it should show the calibration screen? and after calibrating just replace the kernel again | 10:41 |
| manekineko | however, it is horribly outdated at this point | 10:41 |
| manekineko | and will never be updated again | 10:41 |
| manekineko | has1, right | 10:41 |
| manekineko | rename your current zimage and modules | 10:41 |
| manekineko | stick in your new zimage and modules | 10:41 |
| has1 | ok i will try that | 10:41 |
| has1 | the zimage and module need renaming right? | 10:42 |
| manekineko | well I just said rename to backup your current ones | 10:42 |
| has1 | because i downloaded some kernel and the zimage file was named zimage_blablablabla | 10:42 |
| manekineko | nbut you can delete them too if you want | 10:42 |
| chuvask | ok, thanks | 10:42 |
| manekineko | yes, it should be just renamed to zImage | 10:42 |
| has1 | ok | 10:42 |
| chuvask | can i install xdandroid in the internal storage? for that run better | 10:49 |
| manekineko | it's very alpha stage at this point, and lots of things don't work if you do that | 10:49 |
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| chuvask | why i dont found skype in android market with mi xdandroid? | 11:10 |
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| chuvask | why i dont found skype in android market with mi xdandroid? | 11:15 |
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| chuvask | why i dont found skype in android market with mi xdandroid? | 11:34 |
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| arrrghhh | dunno | 11:37 |
| arrrghhh | might be one of those apps locked down by your carrier | 11:37 |
| arrrghhh | or it's an app that requires an architecture that our phone doesn't support. | 11:37 |
| chuvask | in your phone whether found skype? | 11:39 |
| chuvask | or flasn | 11:39 |
| chuvask | flash | 11:40 |
| arrrghhh | flash doesn't work | 11:40 |
| arrrghhh | and i've never looked for skype. | 11:40 |
| arrrghhh | hence the reason i said 'dunno' | 11:40 |
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| mes | with hycs-rootfs I'm getting E/RILC ( 1311): RIL_register: RIL_RadioFunctions * null or invalid version (expected 3) | 12:16 |
| arrrghhh | ...ok? | 12:20 |
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| mes | I assume this is why there is no radio with this rootfs, just trying tofind out why now | 12:22 |
| mikey_ | running on Sprint HTC Touch Pro 2. everything seems to be working except the phone freezez when i try to take a picture. | 12:22 |
| arrrghhh | mikey_, cam code isn't flawless yet | 12:25 |
| arrrghhh | with that said, cam seems to work fine for me on my RHOD400 | 12:25 |
| arrrghhh | which kernel are you using? | 12:25 |
| arrrghhh | which build as well | 12:25 |
| manekineko | mes, you are running all hyc stuff right? his stuff isn't generally cross-compatible with xdandroid | 12:27 |
| arrrghhh | that's a good point mes. if you're on hyc's build, you've gotta use all his stuff. or none of it. | 12:27 |
| arrrghhh | unless you know what you're doing :P | 12:27 |
| mes | yes I have all of his stuff, execpt for the MMS and media scanner, all his patches have been merged in to my system. | 12:30 |
| mes | this errror message is the very first output, before most of system is started | 12:32 |
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| mikey_ | uhh the one that i just downloaded | 12:32 |
| mikey_ | from the download section | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | mes, you're running your own system. | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | i'm talking all of hyc's madness. | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | mikey_, that doesn't help | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | FRX06? | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | "uhhh the one i just downloaded" is pretty vague. | 12:38 |
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| mes | I don't understand hyc commit "froyo libs here are no longer used" | 12:41 |
| arrrghhh | mes, what are you doing exactly | 12:41 |
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| mes | trying to make the stupid phone work :) | 12:44 |
| mes | ril doesn't work and keyboard is wrong | 12:45 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 12:45 |
| arrrghhh | mes, i'm not on it now, but i usually run all of hyc's stuff. | 12:45 |
| arrrghhh | it works well, not sure what you mean by 'RIL doesn't work and keyboard is wrong' | 12:45 |
| arrrghhh | works for me... | 12:45 |
| arrrghhh | and him | 12:45 |
| arrrghhh | and lots of others :P | 12:45 |
| mes | if I drop in the standard rootfs radio works again, and keyboard is right. other stuff doesn't work because of the changes to system, but one step at a time | 12:46 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | either you're not listening | 12:47 |
| mes | big question is who runs his stuff on fuze or raph | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | or i'm not following | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 12:48 |
| arrrghhh | i forget | 12:48 |
| arrrghhh | i keep assuming everyone has a RHOD... | 12:48 |
| arrrghhh | you're one of 5 RAPH users :P | 12:48 |
| mes | I expect that is the problem, and not your problem | 12:48 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps. | 12:48 |
| arrrghhh | i have a RHOD | 12:48 |
| arrrghhh | as do most, unfortunately (for you) | 12:49 |
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| mikeyc | hey everyone so TWC was here fixing my internet. I just recently dowloaded FRX06. Runns good, but the phone freezes when i take a pic. Im running Kernel 2.6.277.46-01275 Android 2.2.2 | 13:06 |
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| mikeyc | on a Sprint HTC Touch Pro 2 | 13:07 |
| arrrghhh | mikeyc, answer my previous freaking questions. | 13:08 |
| mikeyc | what was it? i don't have access to the previous chat | 13:08 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 13:09 |
| arrrghhh | you partially answered | 13:09 |
| arrrghhh | so i guess you can't access previous memories in your brain either? | 13:09 |
| arrrghhh | what kernel are you on | 13:09 |
| arrrghhh | and what build | 13:09 |
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| mikeyc | Kernel 2.6.277.46-01275 Android 2.2.2 Build FX06 | 13:09 |
| arrrghhh | ok good | 13:10 |
| arrrghhh | why are you on that kernel | 13:10 |
| arrrghhh | wait... 1275 | 13:10 |
| arrrghhh | i don't even think that exists lol | 13:10 |
| arrrghhh | i bundle 1276... | 13:10 |
| arrrghhh | you might want to try a newer kernel | 13:10 |
| arrrghhh | but cam works for me... it's far from flawless | 13:11 |
| arrrghhh | it's sometimes slow to react/start up... but i can snap pics with it. | 13:11 |
| mikeyc | how do i change ther Kernel? | 13:12 |
| mikeyc | 2.6.27.46-01276 | 13:12 |
| arrrghhh | mikeyc, http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Incremental_Updates | 13:13 |
| arrrghhh | i also have directions in my thread. | 13:13 |
| mikeyc | how do i get to your thread? | 13:16 |
| arrrghhh | thru the internets? | 13:17 |
| arrrghhh | what do you mean, didn't you download FRX06 from a thread...? | 13:17 |
| mikeyc | no i used the link under the download tab | 13:18 |
| arrrghhh | just read the incremental updates | 13:18 |
| arrrghhh | it's more thorough than my post anyways. | 13:19 |
| mikeyc | when i update the Kernel what will it actualy do? | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | uhm... | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | how do i explain this... | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | it's kind of like patches on your computer...? | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | it's a kernel update. updated/new code? | 13:19 |
| mikeyc | also which update do i do? ah ok! | 13:20 |
| arrrghhh | start with the newest i guess. | 13:20 |
| mikeyc | zImage Updates roofts? | 13:20 |
| arrrghhh | kernel = zImage | 13:20 |
| mikeyc | ok! :) i'll look into that later today. Thanks for your help. | 13:21 |
| arrrghhh | np | 13:21 |
| has1 | manekineko it worked | 13:22 |
| mes | microp-keypad is this the hardware keyboard? | 13:22 |
| has1 | the older kernel didnt, i just deleted the ts_calibration file and i got the calibration screen | 13:22 |
| has1 | next step is to get rid of the black screen problem | 13:23 |
| manekineko | cool | 13:23 |
| manekineko | if your black screen problem is that intermitent problem I talked about, only thing that'll fix it is using the (now outdated) WisTilt2 kernels | 13:24 |
| manekineko | those are the only ones with the fix | 13:24 |
| arrrghhh | eh? | 13:24 |
| has1 | wistilt gave me a looping error during boot | 13:24 |
| has1 | sometheing with ....120 seconds | 13:25 |
| manekineko | he has some problem where his screen sometimes doesn't come on after pressing power | 13:25 |
| manekineko | I'm assuming that's just regular slow wakes | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | it's a RHOD i assume? | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | i gotta ask, i keep assuming everyone has a RHOD | 13:25 |
| manekineko | heh yeah I do that too | 13:25 |
| has1 | yes its a rhod100 | 13:26 |
| arrrghhh | oO | 13:26 |
| arrrghhh | damn that phone. | 13:26 |
| arrrghhh | has1, manekineko - have you tried kernel 1253? | 13:26 |
| has1 | nein | 13:26 |
| arrrghhh | i usually huck that kernel at those poor RHOD100 folk. | 13:26 |
| has1 | should i? | 13:26 |
| arrrghhh | sure | 13:26 |
| arrrghhh | just know that it's an older kernel | 13:26 |
| has1 | sorry for being a noob, but whats the difference between an older kernel and the newest one? | 13:27 |
| arrrghhh | older = older code | 13:27 |
| arrrghhh | newest = newest code | 13:27 |
| arrrghhh | y'know how security patches come out, new software comes out etc? | 13:27 |
| arrrghhh | same thing | 13:27 |
| has1 | lol ok | 13:27 |
| arrrghhh | just kernel supports stuff underneath. | 13:27 |
| has1 | ill try 1253 then | 13:27 |
| manekineko | biggest difference is that for Linux the drivers are part of the kernel generally speaking | 13:28 |
| manekineko | so newer kernels for us generally mean more/newer hardware drivers | 13:28 |
| arrrghhh | difference to what? heh | 13:28 |
| manekineko | "difference between an older kernel and the newest one" | 13:29 |
| arrrghhh | but you said biggest difference is that for Linux the drivers are part of the kernel | 13:29 |
| manekineko | oh, heh yeah | 13:30 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 13:30 |
| mikeyc | hey is there anyqay to get SWIPE on my phone? | 13:31 |
| arrrghhh | swype | 13:32 |
| arrrghhh | and probably | 13:32 |
| arrrghhh | but i don't know | 13:32 |
| arrrghhh | i got a RHOD so i don't have to deal with that crap. | 13:32 |
| manekineko | never used it, but other people have, so I'm sure there's a way | 13:32 |
| manekineko | probably involves downloading an apk and running it | 13:32 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:33 |
| arrrghhh | sounds complicated. | 13:33 |
| mikeyc | RHOD? | 13:33 |
| manekineko | too much for me | 13:33 |
| arrrghhh | mikeyc, Rhodium? | 13:33 |
| mikeyc | yyah never mind ":P | 13:33 |
| arrrghhh | I see someone read the FAQ... | 13:33 |
| mikeyc | ah im new to this :P | 13:33 |
| arrrghhh | mikeyc, that's why you should read the FAQ | 13:34 |
| arrrghhh | and... really anything you can find. | 13:34 |
| has1 | so where do i find kernel 1253? is it supposed to be at http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/ ? | 13:35 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 13:35 |
| arrrghhh | http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20110210_213850-package.tar.bz2 | 13:36 |
| arrrghhh | that's 1253, believe it or not. | 13:36 |
| has1 | nice filename haha | 13:36 |
| has1 | thanks | 13:36 |
| arrrghhh | 2.6.27.46-01253-gd53ddf6 is the build ID | 13:36 |
| arrrghhh | you can see where i get 1253 from... | 13:36 |
| arrrghhh | it's just the easiest way i've found to identify kernels. | 13:36 |
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| arrrghhh | either that kernel worked really well, or not at all. | 13:47 |
| mes | H'm well here is one problem in hycs-rootfs, init says: case "$KBD" in fuse) echo "USING RAPH110|FUZE LAYOUT" | 13:48 |
| mes | computers are such great teachers, they grade immediately, and perfect is acceptable. | 13:49 |
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| arrrghhh | lolwut | 13:50 |
| arrrghhh | mes, his rootfs is for RHOD... | 13:51 |
| arrrghhh | so obviously it might blow up for any other device. | 13:51 |
| mes | typos are typos | 13:52 |
| mes | does rhod use tiwlan ? | 13:52 |
| arrrghhh | how is that a typo..>? | 13:53 |
| arrrghhh | no | 13:53 |
| arrrghhh | RHOD uses BCM | 13:53 |
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| arrrghhh | i guess the 'fuse' is a typo...? | 13:53 |
| arrrghhh | is that in the autobuild rootfs? | 13:53 |
| mes | s/fuse/fuze/ | 13:55 |
| mes | no hycs, the autobuild is correct | 13:55 |
| mes | but I think the same thing is happening with device names for tiwlan0 | 13:56 |
| mes | dhcpd has been modded, and something else has not | 13:57 |
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| arrrghhh | well he did change the way it was named. | 14:01 |
| arrrghhh | but if the autobuild is correct | 14:01 |
| arrrghhh | then use it... | 14:01 |
| arrrghhh | hyc's stuff is for RHOD, so it's not very useful for you. | 14:01 |
| mes | hyc's stuff unmounts the data filesystem before it powers off, that is critical, it also has a pppd that will restart after trhe data connection is dropped. Those two changes are required is xdandroid is not to be considered a joke on all devices | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | fuck off. | 14:06 |
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| mes | what is your problem arrrghhh , hyc doesn't run raph so he can't see a change that breaks things on other devices | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | you're calling XDAndroid a joke | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | on all devices | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | without some changes that you deem are 'required' | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | what is your problem!??! | 14:08 |
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| mes | any computer that can not shut down without crapping in the filesystem IS a joke, someone found the problem and made a fix for it, but it has not been merged into the main tree. | 14:09 |
| arrrghhh | no | 14:10 |
| arrrghhh | along with 15,000 other things | 14:10 |
| arrrghhh | if you think this is a joke, then fuck off. | 14:10 |
| arrrghhh | if you want to help, then help. but don't call it a joke. that's just rude. | 14:11 |
| mes | yep, some are good some are not, when I'm done it will work better on my device than it ever has. | 14:11 |
| mes | what do you think s/fuse/fuze/ is? | 14:11 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | mes, great, so you're not going to help anyone else with a RAPH out? | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | wtf dude. | 14:12 |
| mes | I'm sure hyc will make that change, and others as well when I find what they are. | 14:13 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 14:13 |
| arrrghhh | my point is | 14:13 |
| arrrghhh | if you fix something | 14:14 |
| arrrghhh | send a merge request | 14:14 |
| arrrghhh | otherwise it'll only be fixed on your phone | 14:14 |
| arrrghhh | and no one elses | 14:14 |
| arrrghhh | you wouldn't have any of this if it wasn't open | 14:14 |
| arrrghhh | so why wouldn't you want to give back to the community that has given you so much? | 14:14 |
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| arrrghhh | mes, if that's your attitude, i hope no one helps you. at all. | 14:15 |
| mes | I understand arrrghhh, next time hyc is here I'll mention it | 14:15 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. | 14:15 |
| arrrghhh | hyc isn't the autobuild. | 14:15 |
| arrrghhh | i'm saying if you find stuff broken in the autobuild | 14:16 |
| arrrghhh | submit merge requests to fix it. | 14:16 |
| mes | if it get more complicated I'll send to the mail list | 14:16 |
| arrrghhh | hyc's not going to fix his build for other phones. | 14:16 |
| mes | I think you underestimate hyc | 14:16 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 14:17 |
| arrrghhh | it's not a matter of underestimation | 14:17 |
| arrrghhh | it's a matter of he's not going to do it. | 14:17 |
| mes | I like the cahnges he made, that's why I'm waisting my time trying to get it to work on raph/fuze | 14:17 |
| arrrghhh | he uses that build for his phone. that's all. he doesn't support it, and only fixes things on his build if it helps his phone. | 14:17 |
| arrrghhh | mes, then pull all his merge requests | 14:17 |
| arrrghhh | on autobuild | 14:18 |
| arrrghhh | you shouldn't need anything else. | 14:18 |
| arrrghhh | AFAIK hyc has made merge requests for all his fixes. | 14:18 |
| arrrghhh | although don't quote me on that, sometimes he does it in rounds. | 14:18 |
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| NeoMatrixJR | yo arrrghhh...what's up. Eating Newbs for brekfast again? | 14:28 |
| arrrghhh | eh i do what i can. | 14:28 |
| arrrghhh | mes isn't a noob. | 14:28 |
| arrrghhh | just a foreigner who is either misunderstood by me | 14:29 |
| arrrghhh | or just a complete asshat. | 14:29 |
| NeoMatrixJR | mah Rhod's being a complete asshat. It's misunderstanding the concept of "WORK!" | 14:30 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 14:31 |
| NeoMatrixJR | [mmcqd] and system_server are taking over the CPU again. | 14:31 |
| arrrghhh | SD card | 14:31 |
| arrrghhh | exploding | 14:31 |
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| NeoMatrixJR | arrrghhh, u running CWM or normal/old method? | 14:37 |
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| arrrghhh | old | 14:39 |
| arrrghhh | puh | 14:39 |
| arrrghhh | yea, i don't like CWM on SD card installs. it's overkill, to say in the least. | 14:39 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I couldn't tell if there was any real benefit | 14:39 |
| arrrghhh | well i guess if you don't know how to setup a partitioned install | 14:40 |
| arrrghhh | it's helpful... kinda. | 14:40 |
| manekineko | there would be on the partitioned install, but then it's not directly compatible with a partitioned install | 14:40 |
| arrrghhh | and i guess if you switch builds frequently you can use it to backup | 14:40 |
| manekineko | it'd be nice to be able to kexec into it and backup and load changes | 14:40 |
| manekineko | especially if you don't have convenient access to a Linux machine to do it directly | 14:40 |
| NeoMatrixJR | just trying to decide what I want to do. Mine's being a pain right now. Can't decide what I want to run. FRX06 or hyc's FRX06+. I want WisTilt2's stuff and audio routing & new ril, but I'm not sure if you can blend all that together right now.... | 14:43 |
| arrrghhh | don't | 14:44 |
| manekineko | WisTilt's cant be blended into anything else | 14:44 |
| arrrghhh | gawd | 14:44 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I kno I kno...wait for FRX07 | 14:44 |
| manekineko | you can get everything except WisTilt's with FRX06+ | 14:44 |
| NeoMatrixJR | yeah, but w/o WisTilt's my phone takes like 20-30s to wake. | 14:44 |
| NeoMatrixJR | kinda sad WT's change requests keep getting rejected. | 14:45 |
| hyc | my kernel has most of wistilt2's fast wake stuff. works fine here as long as you leave scbs off. | 14:49 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, perhaps SCBS was on | 14:49 |
| arrrghhh | but it was still slower to wake than his poop | 14:49 |
| manekineko | that's what I remember you saying about scbs, though oddly I guess I was actually running with scbs on for a long time without running into that bug | 14:50 |
| manekineko | I just had abysmal battery life | 14:50 |
| NeoMatrixJR | how do you shut scbs off? | 14:50 |
| rpierce99 | fast to wake up when it's awake 90% of the time | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | well | 14:50 |
| rpierce99 | su; killall scbs | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | if it's already awake... it should 'wake' instantly | 14:50 |
| hyc | on current rootfs it's off by default | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | that's cheatin rpierce99 :P | 14:50 |
| NeoMatrixJR | hyc: current auto-build rootfs, or one on your page? | 14:50 |
| rpierce99 | that's what i had to do, i tried to kill <pid>, but it failed | 14:51 |
| hyc | mine | 14:51 |
| hyc | autobuild rotfs doesn't have any of this | 14:51 |
| * NeoMatrixJR digs out test SD card and hunts down FRX06+ link | 14:52 | |
| manekineko | hyc, what were the big power drains on your G1 when you brought up the listing? | 14:54 |
| manekineko | also, did your G1 grind to a halt like we do when doing Market downloads? | 14:54 |
| hyc | heh, not much. cell standby | 14:54 |
| hyc | hmmmm don't recall | 14:55 |
| manekineko | these days I'm seeing cell standby take around 66% of my battery | 14:55 |
| manekineko | followed by phone idle | 14:55 |
| hyc | sometimes it's slow to get a d/l started | 14:55 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko, that sounds more reasonable. | 14:55 |
| hyc | that sounds good, yeah | 14:55 |
| NeoMatrixJR | crap...I thought the FRX06+ stuff was in your sig hyc... where'd u hide that link. | 14:55 |
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| hyc | i still usually see 90% android system | 14:55 |
| manekineko | hmm that's odd | 14:56 |
| manekineko | system no longer shows up at all in mine | 14:56 |
| arrrghhh | oh hyc - i wanted to ask you - i was using your newest RIL with F22's rootfs that supposedly supports your RIL - is there something new in your RIL that would break his support...? | 14:56 |
| hyc | yeah, dunno why, it sucks. | 14:56 |
| hyc | arrrghhh: dunno | 14:56 |
| hyc | i haven't used his rootfs | 14:56 |
| arrrghhh | :( | 14:56 |
| arrrghhh | weird. | 14:56 |
| arrrghhh | well your rootfs fixed my no data problems. | 14:56 |
| NeoMatrixJR | found | 14:56 |
| rpierce99 | Android System - 68%, Dialer - 23%, Cell Standby - 6%, Phone Idle - 5% | 14:57 |
| hyc | dialer? dude, you actually use your phone as a pho.ne? | 14:57 |
| rpierce99 | got 1 call today from work :P | 14:57 |
| hyc | lol | 14:57 |
| rpierce99 | after 5 hours battery is at 76% | 14:57 |
| manekineko | hmm weird wonder why my phone is unique in having the system no longer sucking down all the battery | 14:58 |
| arrrghhh | i kinda wish i didn't use my phone as a phone. it fails at that task. | 14:58 |
| hyc | heh. | 14:58 |
| rpierce99 | i still have to toggle speaker every time i receive a call, not sure what's up with that | 14:58 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, wth? i've never had to do that. | 14:58 |
| hyc | so far everything works here but BT is fragile | 14:58 |
| arrrghhh | even when everyone seemingly had to... | 14:58 |
| manekineko | do you guys have auto-rotate screen on under display? wonder if it's because I unchecked that | 14:58 |
| arrrghhh | yea, BT seems fragile indeed. | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko, yea i have auto-rotate enabled. | 14:59 |
| hyc | i usually have to unpair with my car unit and then re-pair, it never just connects successfully | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | you've got one of those fancy cars. | 14:59 |
| hyc | and yeah, I have auto-rotate on | 14:59 |
| NeoMatrixJR | what's wrong w/ BT? it was working last time I tested it. | 15:00 |
| NeoMatrixJR | huh | 15:00 |
| arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, it works, just far from flawlessly. | 15:00 |
| hyc | i also installed ADW launcher. got tired of home screen not auto rotating | 15:00 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 15:00 |
| arrrghhh | idtto | 15:00 |
| arrrghhh | er... ditto | 15:00 |
| hyc | and a few times i connected to my car, but audio didn't get routed, it was still all in the handset. weird stuff. | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 15:01 |
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| NeoMatrixJR | huh...when I get it working on the test build I'll have to try switching from my headset to my base-station @ home | 15:02 |
| arrrghhh | ugh i need to eat. my emails to engineers are getting testy. | 15:08 |
| arrrghhh | before i run off, hyc - where are you at on the list of merge requests? are they all in or are you holding some back? | 15:08 |
| manekineko | heh your interaction with newbs, too | 15:09 |
| manekineko | but I guess that's not food related | 15:09 |
| NeoMatrixJR | not unless he hasn't eaten in months | 15:10 |
| manekineko | lol | 15:10 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 15:11 |
| arrrghhh | nah just cisco engineers. | 15:11 |
| NeoMatrixJR | hyc: damn you and your hidden links! | 15:11 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 15:11 |
| arrrghhh | soon there'll be a test it seems. | 15:11 |
| arrrghhh | which you must pass to get the magic files. | 15:11 |
| hyc | i've held a few back i think, some stuff for the kbd backlight | 15:12 |
| NeoMatrixJR | done it before | 15:12 |
| hyc | nothing major | 15:12 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 15:12 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 15:12 |
| rpierce99 | using chrome, view source makes it super easy, it converts urls to links in the source viewer | 15:12 |
| NeoMatrixJR | nooooo mah kbd backlight! | 15:12 |
| hyc | yeah, that's why I'm going to just put a quiz in instead, too easy to view source. | 15:13 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 15:13 |
| arrrghhh | hidden links are useless if people know about view source :P | 15:14 |
| hyc | i don't think my kexec stuff is in a merge req, don't remember | 15:14 |
| manekineko | presumably people who view source are at least a litlte savvy though | 15:14 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 15:14 |
| arrrghhh | too much stuff | 15:14 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, perhaps there should be some cleanup to verify | 15:14 |
| arrrghhh | once all the merge requests have settled, what has been left out. | 15:14 |
| hyc | yeah, too much, just had to stop. | 15:14 |
| arrrghhh | i know. | 15:14 |
| hyc | right | 15:14 |
| manekineko | heh how are you doing on all those merge requests arrrghhh? | 15:14 |
| arrrghhh | i wish i could help stinebd out... | 15:14 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko, nothing to do | 15:15 |
| manekineko | oh is it on him now? | 15:15 |
| manekineko | I thought he had you testing them or something | 15:15 |
| arrrghhh | i offer stinebd help, he just asks for $5mil | 15:15 |
| arrrghhh | yea, i was. | 15:15 |
| arrrghhh | they all test guten. | 15:15 |
| arrrghhh | ugh | 15:16 |
| arrrghhh | i miss klipper | 15:16 |
| arrrghhh | wlipper is... horrid. | 15:17 |
| NeoMatrixJR | oh, sweet...still reading hyc's page. kbd backlight isn't gone, just moved | 15:18 |
| manekineko | his keyboard backlight is sweet | 15:18 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 15:18 |
| arrrghhh | very smooth | 15:18 |
| arrrghhh | i haven't had issues with it locking up or repeat keys | 15:18 |
| arrrghhh | but i haven't composed a huge email yet either... | 15:18 |
| hyc | heh, yeah no lockups here. | 15:19 |
| NeoMatrixJR | dude...everything on your page reads like phone awesomeness. Can't wait for this SD card to format and be ready to test | 15:20 |
| arrrghhh | alright. qdub time, i'll cya guys later | 15:20 |
| arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, facepalm | 15:20 |
| hyc | lol. it's lightyears better than frx06 | 15:20 |
| manekineko | it really is | 15:20 |
| manekineko | enough so that I gave up the smooth speed of Gingerbread for it | 15:20 |
| manekineko | though it performs faster than FRX too I think | 15:21 |
| arrrghhh | oh yea | 15:21 |
| arrrghhh | with the readahead stuff | 15:21 |
| arrrghhh | and whatever else, write caching or some such | 15:21 |
| hyc | yep | 15:21 |
| arrrghhh | let's get rid of the SD | 15:21 |
| arrrghhh | full NAND ahead | 15:21 |
| hyc | heh, easy for you to say, on cdma... | 15:22 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:22 |
| arrrghhh | hop on the immature boat hyc | 15:22 |
| manekineko | eh? thought you weren't a big fan of NAND arrrghhh | 15:22 |
| arrrghhh | you know you want to | 15:22 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko, the faster i can get rid of WinMo, the better. | 15:22 |
| arrrghhh | NAND is a great theory | 15:22 |
| manekineko | well I can empathize with that | 15:22 |
| arrrghhh | currently... it's a mess. | 15:22 |
| arrrghhh | it doesn't run very well, that's the only reason i don't like it :P | 15:22 |
| arrrghhh | i don't even think i'd call it alpha | 15:22 |
| NeoMatrixJR | hyc: any recomended settings/changes in startup.txt for your build? | 15:23 |
| arrrghhh | what comes before alpha? bacon? | 15:23 |
| hyc | yeah no kidding... | 15:23 |
| NeoMatrixJR | pre-alpha? | 15:23 |
| arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, you don't need any of the cdma stuff | 15:23 |
| manekineko | it doesn't have speed improvements according to everyone that tried it, and it loses support for QuickGPS and PRL list updating | 15:23 |
| arrrghhh | i think that's on his page tho | 15:23 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko, yup | 15:23 |
| manekineko | not sure I really see the upside compared to partitioning | 15:23 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 15:23 |
| arrrghhh | no SD card? | 15:23 |
| arrrghhh | no MMC hacks? | 15:23 |
| manekineko | heh don't we have SD cards already? | 15:23 |
| NeoMatrixJR | hw3d.force got deprecated didn't it? | 15:24 |
| arrrghhh | no, then i can actually use the SD card for its intended purpose | 15:24 |
| hyc | yeah I've already outlined the changes that affected startup.txt | 15:24 |
| arrrghhh | storing crap. | 15:24 |
| arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, that's been deprecated forever. | 15:24 |
| manekineko | hmm that's true, it'll let you pop out the card, which is nice | 15:24 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko, quickgps will be a hard pill to swallow. | 15:24 |
| arrrghhh | HD2 folk deal with it tho. | 15:24 |
| mes | where were the changes for startup.txt outlined? | 15:25 |
| manekineko | right, PRL who cares, but loss of quickgps is pretty much the loss of gps | 15:25 |
| NeoMatrixJR | yeah, I'm in bad need to clean my startup.txt again. I didn't realize I was running an old one that still had overclocking in it. | 15:25 |
| NeoMatrixJR | that was probably half my problems! | 15:25 |
| arrrghhh | mes, on his page, but that doesn't apply to your device... | 15:25 |
| manekineko | mes, nowhere I think, they've just accumulated | 15:25 |
| arrrghhh | my startup's have been cleaned. | 15:25 |
| arrrghhh | went thru all those bitches | 15:25 |
| NeoMatrixJR | still use pm.sleep_mode? Recomended setting? | 15:25 |
| hyc | cool | 15:26 |
| arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, 1 | 15:26 |
| arrrghhh | and yes | 15:26 |
| arrrghhh | not in that order. | 15:26 |
| NeoMatrixJR | ok, got that one right then | 15:26 |
| manekineko | I thought that was deprecated by WisTilt's changes? or did those not make it in? | 15:26 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko, those didn't make it in | 15:26 |
| hyc | didn't make it | 15:26 |
| arrrghhh | he basically removed all other sleep modes. | 15:26 |
| arrrghhh | which... wasn't accepted :P | 15:26 |
| manekineko | hmm, doesn't seem like a bad idea, given there's no reason to ever use any of the others at this point | 15:27 |
| hyc | his latest patch to email list was less drastic, kept the other modes. | 15:27 |
| arrrghhh | alrighty. food tiem! | 15:27 |
| hyc | good point, ultimately that param ought to disappear. | 15:27 |
| NeoMatrixJR | ok, let's boot this! | 15:28 |
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| NeoMatrixJR | before I move this to my "fulltime" card if all is happy, do I need to make a new data.img hyc, or will this be happy with an existing one? | 15:29 |
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| hyc | you should probably make a new one | 15:33 |
| hyc | isn't that what it says on my page?????? | 15:34 |
| hyc | moron. | 15:35 |
| hyc | downloading my stuff means you agree to be publicly ridiculed whenever you ask a stupid question. | 15:35 |
| NeoMatrixJR | bah. missed that. Read it last time I was on your site and forgot.. | 15:38 |
| * NeoMatrixJR bows head in shame | 15:38 | |
| hyc | lol | 15:39 |
| mes | hyc, in your merge request for rootfs you remove: grep -c 'physkeyboard=fuze' and add: case "$KBD" infuse) Is this what you want? | 15:42 |
| mes | should s/fuse/fuze/ ? | 15:42 |
| hyc | mebbe | 15:43 |
| mes | we could cal the keyboard fuse | 15:44 |
| hyc | guess I should fix that | 15:44 |
| NeoMatrixJR | ok hyc: pretty sure this one's not on your page (although you could cover this with the blanket - no-support) any reason the power control widget doesn't work in FRX06+? (or is my phone being dumb?) | 15:44 |
| hyc | powercontrol widget works for me | 15:44 |
| NeoMatrixJR | yay...phone being dumb | 15:45 |
| arrrghhh | phone, user, same thing. | 16:01 |
| hyc | ;) | 16:01 |
| NeoMatrixJR | hey, I put the widget on the screen just like I'm supposed to. It's not my fault if the icons are gone and the buttons do nothing! | 16:04 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | the powercontrol widget is a POS. | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | i've heard it's buggy on native android phones, so i don't use it. | 16:06 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I've been using it fine for a while but I'll take any suggestions for a replacement widget | 16:07 |
| arrrghhh | eh? | 16:07 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i just put a link to settings | 16:07 |
| arrrghhh | and go thru it | 16:07 |
| NeoMatrixJR | mostly I used it for changing backlight and turning gps on/off | 16:08 |
| arrrghhh | i use autobl | 16:08 |
| arrrghhh | and use settings to turn GPS on/off. | 16:08 |
| arrrghhh | man... i can't wait until that sleep/GPS bug is resolved. | 16:08 |
| NeoMatrixJR | was using it for wifi, but it never wanted to connect until I went in to settings | 16:08 |
| arrrghhh | i'm pretty sure that's the last blocker for sleep. other than stupid apps. | 16:09 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:09 |
| arrrghhh | see what i mean? powercontrol widget is a POS. | 16:09 |
| NeoMatrixJR | autobl is too dim for my tastes usually. I kno it drains batt, but I like a bright screen unless it super dark | 16:09 |
| arrrghhh | ugh. i think JustusIV needs to be taken out back and shot. that dude is maddening. | 16:11 |
| arrrghhh | crap was that my outside voice? :P | 16:11 |
| NeoMatrixJR | time to nap while TitaniumBackup runs...oh crap...I'm at work. I should probably work | 16:13 |
| NeoMatrixJR | yeah | 16:13 |
| arrrghhh | ha | 16:14 |
| arrrghhh | TB does take ages to restore... | 16:15 |
| arrrghhh | it doesn't take so long to backup. i'm thinking it's related to SD card writes. | 16:15 |
| arrrghhh | i wish i had some native reference hardware quite often to see if some of these issues are our build, or Android itself. | 16:17 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, that's what you're for :P | 16:17 |
| hyc | lol | 16:17 |
| arrrghhh | do you use TB? is it as painful on the G1? | 16:17 |
| arrrghhh | backups seem really quick. restores... take ages. | 16:18 |
| hyc | haven't used it in a long time | 16:18 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 16:18 |
| arrrghhh | yea i guess if i wasn't constantly mucking with crap | 16:18 |
| arrrghhh | i wouldn't need it either :P | 16:18 |
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| mes | hyc, some reason this never evaluates true: if [ ! -f /system/$CHK_ROOT -o /init.$CHK_ROOT -nt /system/$CHK_ROOT ], so keyboard setup is never entered | 16:38 |
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| deadtv | hello peeps | 16:39 |
| arrrghhh | deadtv, howdy. do you have a question? | 16:41 |
| deadtv | i am new to smart phones but not new to hackin into things ive got a few ques. was wondering if any can answer for me and yes im a newbie to the phones its been since the razor since ive been inside a file to make things work | 16:41 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 16:41 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 16:41 |
| arrrghhh | don't ask to ask | 16:41 |
| deadtv | lol | 16:41 |
| arrrghhh | what's your question | 16:41 |
| deadtv | i got a a htc imagio has wm 6.5 can i reflash it to android | 16:42 |
| arrrghhh | no | 16:42 |
| arrrghhh | for whatever reason we don't suppor the imagio | 16:42 |
| arrrghhh | probably because no devs have the device. | 16:42 |
| deadtv | but from what i read i can run andorid on it | 16:42 |
| arrrghhh | AFAIK, the hardware is pretty similar | 16:42 |
| arrrghhh | you can, but not our port. again AFAIK. | 16:42 |
| deadtv | AFAIK ?? | 16:42 |
| arrrghhh | as far as i know? | 16:43 |
| deadtv | lol thakns | 16:43 |
| arrrghhh | google knows all | 16:43 |
| deadtv | ok also i have a motrola cliq 2 can it be rooted | 16:44 |
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| arrrghhh | bzo! what's up | 16:44 |
| arrrghhh | deadtv, sorry, can't help you there. | 16:44 |
| bzo | hey arrrghhh not much, just been busy | 16:45 |
| arrrghhh | yea, seems to be a common theme among devs latley. | 16:45 |
| arrrghhh | lately* | 16:45 |
| arrrghhh | 'cept jonpry, that dude has nothing but time :P | 16:45 |
| arrrghhh | aw he's not in here. | 16:45 |
| bzo | lol, I'm just about to boot android for the first time now in about 2 months | 16:45 |
| deadtv | thanks for the info | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | heh 2 months | 16:46 |
| bzo | using hyc's build to get a jumpstart on all these changes | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | probably a good idea, almost none of the changes have made it to the autobuilds... | 16:46 |
| bzo | wtf is with the hidden download links anyways | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | he doesn't want rubes downloading it | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | just view the source. | 16:47 |
| bzo | yeah, figured it out | 16:47 |
| arrrghhh | hyc wanted to cook up some intelligence test | 16:48 |
| arrrghhh | so you have to pass a test to get the links :P | 16:48 |
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| arrrghhh | hyc, lol | 17:09 |
| arrrghhh | sorry dude, i'm trying to figure out that guy's issue. but i think he's just dumb, and you can't fix stupid. | 17:09 |
| hyc | well, one way or the other, not receiving calls has nothing to do with audio routing | 17:12 |
| arrrghhh | i wouldn't think so | 17:13 |
| arrrghhh | i tried to tell him that, but that dude is... how do you say, 'thick'. | 17:14 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: i don't really think you can help with the merge requests. basically what i have to do is unlazify long enough to do the merges and then test them on raph | 17:16 |
| hyc | that should prove interesting... no idea if if I've broken non-RHODs... | 17:17 |
| stinebd | that's why we test | 17:17 |
| stinebd | eventually | 17:17 |
| * stinebd coughs | 17:17 | |
| hyc | heh | 17:17 |
| arrrghhh | ha | 17:17 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, that's what i thought. | 17:17 |
| arrrghhh | hyc's stuff been pretty thoroghly tested on RHOD. | 17:18 |
| hyc | mes already caught a typo in my fuze keyboard select | 17:18 |
| stinebd | what we really need is a team of arrrghhhs | 17:18 |
| mes | I can say there are a few things on raph that don't work like one would expect | 17:18 |
| arrrghhh | ha | 17:18 |
| stinebd | each with a different device | 17:18 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, my buddy has an old RAPH800 | 17:18 |
| arrrghhh | whenever he gets a new phone, i might be able to borrow it from him... | 17:19 |
| stinebd | find non-morons with raphs/diams and the willingness to report results on irc is difficult though | 17:19 |
| stinebd | finding* | 17:19 |
| mes | hyc, Idon't know if you saw this, but some reason this never evaluates true: if [ ! -f /system/$CHK_ROOT -o /init.$CHK_ROOT -nt /system/$CHK_ROOT ], so keyboard setup is never entered | 17:19 |
| hyc | now idea why not | 17:20 |
| hyc | *no | 17:20 |
| stinebd | i've noticed that too | 17:20 |
| stinebd | i think i mentioned it at some point | 17:20 |
| mes | it could be something is already soppied to /system from before and rootfs files are not newer | 17:20 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: is files.x.c still having seizures? | 17:21 |
| mes | copied | 17:21 |
| hyc | that's always possible | 17:21 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, i guess not | 17:21 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not sure what was up. one second, it would load. another, 503. | 17:21 |
| stinebd | wonder what it was | 17:21 |
| arrrghhh | haven't seen it since... | 17:21 |
| stinebd | probably another copyright infringement company triggering the load limiter | 17:21 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:21 |
| stinebd | at least php didn't blow up this time | 17:22 |
| stinebd | that's good news | 17:22 |
| arrrghhh | eh. it seems fine now, and no body else has reported an issue. | 17:22 |
| hyc | at this point I would just dump the rest of /init.etc into the main build for /system | 17:22 |
| hyc | and get rid of the NEW_ROOT check | 17:22 |
| arrrghhh | i just was trying to look at the newest rootfs commits. | 17:22 |
| hyc | just leave the keymap stuff remaining in /init.etc | 17:24 |
| hyc | and check to make sure the symlink exists and matches the kbd name in startup.txt | 17:24 |
| stinebd | screw keymaps | 17:24 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:24 |
| arrrghhh | what about tssc? i want to rid the world of that whore. | 17:25 |
| stinebd | no keyboard support and no tssc? sounds like a winning device | 17:25 |
| arrrghhh | i thought we could get the calib info from the spl | 17:25 |
| arrrghhh | or smth | 17:25 |
| arrrghhh | some such thing that would make calibration unnecessary. | 17:26 |
| stinebd | oh you're talking about ts-cal | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | oh sorry. | 17:26 |
| stinebd | speak what you mean man | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | mixing up terms, as usual. | 17:26 |
| manekineko | I thought that didn't work out | 17:26 |
| manekineko | since the memory location was different on different phones or something | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko, somehow NAND handles it. | 17:26 |
| stinebd | it's in different locations for different devices | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | well that sucks. | 17:26 |
| stinebd | not a huge issue but we need to find all the locations and a way to handle it | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 17:26 |
| manekineko | hmm but they got it working for NAND? | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | too many phones | 17:26 |
| stinebd | nand = rhod only | 17:27 |
| arrrghhh | no wonder cotulla and DFT only want to support 1 device. | 17:27 |
| arrrghhh | yea, and NAND seems to be CDMA RHOD only at this point. | 17:27 |
| stinebd | oh right | 17:27 |
| arrrghhh | GSM RHOD folk have booted, but they basically have to disable the GSM radio. | 17:27 |
| stinebd | the whole crashing with a sim card thing | 17:27 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 17:27 |
| hyc | crashing when opening /dev/smd0 | 17:27 |
| hyc | little details... | 17:27 |
| arrrghhh | yea y'know | 17:27 |
| stinebd | it crashes during kernel boot actually | 17:27 |
| arrrghhh | the little things in life. | 17:28 |
| stinebd | before anything gets to opening anything | 17:28 |
| hyc | ah, last I heard it got past that but still died when rild tried to open the modem | 17:28 |
| arrrghhh | i think they got past that stinebd | 17:28 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not sure tho. | 17:28 |
| stinebd | ah | 17:28 |
| arrrghhh | i get really confused on the status of GSM RHOD NAND.... | 17:28 |
| arrrghhh | some say they can boot | 17:28 |
| arrrghhh | others fail completely | 17:28 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think anyone's gotten service tho. | 17:28 |
| hyc | so clearly device init is still missing a lot in the kernel | 17:29 |
| hyc | that's also why teh radio is 50-50 likely to be dead on a kexec | 17:29 |
| stinebd | on gsm yes ;) | 17:29 |
| arrrghhh | yea... | 17:30 |
| stinebd | absurd really, 98% of the world uses it and none of the nand folks do | 17:30 |
| arrrghhh | ACL ripped a crapton out. | 17:30 |
| arrrghhh | i'm nudging him to try and remerge so he doesn't have to one-man-band it. | 17:30 |
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| bror | hi all | 17:56 |
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| arrrghhh | bror, hi. do you have a question? | 18:00 |
| arrrghhh | no, just came to say hi all? lol | 18:06 |
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| chuvask | xdandroid is root? | 18:12 |
| chuvask | ? | 18:12 |
| chuvask | ? | 18:13 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 18:13 |
| chuvask | ? | 18:13 |
| arrrghhh | fuck dude | 18:13 |
| chuvask | ok thank | 18:13 |
| chuvask | and i can run faceniff? | 18:13 |
| arrrghhh | i have no clue what that is | 18:13 |
| arrrghhh | sounds painful tho | 18:13 |
| hyc | it's the newest fad in password sniffers | 18:14 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:14 |
| arrrghhh | i couldn't find it on the market | 18:14 |
| arrrghhh | orly | 18:14 |
| arrrghhh | oh one of those open network sniffers | 18:14 |
| arrrghhh | chuvask, i'm not going to help you with that trash. | 18:14 |
| hyc | yeah, grabs facebook authentication and other stuff off your local wlan | 18:14 |
| arrrghhh | yea, i've heard of it. | 18:15 |
| chuvask | you can download in http://faceniff.ponury.net/ | 18:15 |
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| arrrghhh | i'm not going to | 18:15 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not going to condone usage of such things | 18:15 |
| arrrghhh | if you're doing penetration or vulnerability testing, | 18:16 |
| arrrghhh | you should be able to fix that | 18:16 |
| bror | sorry, was reading some posts on some fora :-) | 18:16 |
| chuvask | i run faceniff and I get an error | 18:17 |
| chuvask | force closure | 18:17 |
| arrrghhh | chuvask, we're not going to help you with that. | 18:18 |
| mes | hyc, I'm getting E/RILC ( 1311): RIL_register: RIL_RadioFunctions * null or invalid version (expected 3), got a suggestion where to look? | 18:18 |
| mes | I am guessing it's not finding the right library | 18:18 |
| hyc | bummer | 18:21 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:22 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, consoling technophobes everywhere. | 18:22 |
| hyc | ;) | 18:23 |
| arrrghhh | ugh. i hate these threads. "goodbye, i bought a newer phone suckers!" | 18:25 |
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| * stinebd goes to make such a thread | 18:32 | |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:32 |
| bror | gents, I have a question. :-) This ril modded by Hyc which was posted on XDA-developers, Is this blackstone prove? I tried changing the rootfs and the lib, but then my FRX06 CWM did not start | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | bror, we don't support CWM | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | but hyc's RIL is pretty device-agnostic AFAIK | 18:32 |
| bror | omg... more of this and I will start crying as a little kid | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | wtf | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | ? | 18:33 |
| gatoinfeliz | hey everyone I just updated my FRX06 build with the latest rootfs, zimage, and initrd updates. Im running it from HTC Touch Pro 2 on Sprint and I'm noticing the roaming indicator is on. | 18:33 |
| hyc | pretty sure some others have posted it working on blackstone | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | gatoinfeliz, result of the newest rootfs. | 18:33 |
| gatoinfeliz | Am I in fact roaming? I turned off data roaming just in case. | 18:34 |
| bror | sorry hyc, I hoped so.. I have been googling for some days now... (or I must be blind :-) ) | 18:34 |
| arrrghhh | gatoinfeliz, there's no roaming on Sprint... unless you're using GSM in another country. | 18:34 |
| arrrghhh | gatoinfeliz, if you bothered to read the commit logs... "Sync froyo ril blob from hyc's codebase; this will result in a roaming indicator on FRX06 in CDMA mode." | 18:34 |
| gatoinfeliz | Thanks. Took the worry out of me. | 18:35 |
| arrrghhh | sure... | 18:35 |
| gatoinfeliz | I have a question. I was using the FRX06 build with nothing updated. My notification sound for texts stopped working and my incoming calls would go straight to voicemail. Is this "fixed" or was it a result of something I downloaded? | 18:36 |
| arrrghhh | never heard of that | 18:36 |
| arrrghhh | so probably the result of something you downloaded... | 18:37 |
| gatoinfeliz | Seemslike it. Something else I noticed was that the screen lock with the pattern stopped appearing. the screen would just sleep and the power button would just restore w/out unlocking my phone. | 18:38 |
| arrrghhh | i don't use the pattern unlock, not sure. | 18:39 |
| gatoinfeliz | Either way thanks for the information. hopefully with the updates the build is a little more stable. | 18:40 |
| arrrghhh | sure np | 18:40 |
| manekineko | arrrghhh, you ever see any graphical glitching on your phone's notification bar? | 18:40 |
| manekineko | just started seeing that a week or two ago, kinda odd | 18:40 |
| arrrghhh | not lately | 18:40 |
| manekineko | hope my hardware isn't dying | 18:40 |
| arrrghhh | i've had it happen before tho | 18:40 |
| arrrghhh | usually on custom poop i built mahself. | 18:40 |
| manekineko | like vertical bands? that move around a bit? | 18:40 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 18:40 |
| arrrghhh | exactly that | 18:41 |
| manekineko | oh ok, I'll assume my hardware is fine then | 18:41 |
| arrrghhh | you on a custom system image? | 18:41 |
| manekineko | nope, FRX06+ stock | 18:41 |
| arrrghhh | oh that trash... | 18:41 |
| manekineko | lol | 18:41 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 18:41 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think i've seen that on hyc's bundle. | 18:41 |
| manekineko | eh, if it's not a hardware problem, I don't care too much | 18:42 |
| arrrghhh | i'm back on FRX06 testing .39 | 18:42 |
| manekineko | oh nice, how's that coming along? | 18:42 |
| arrrghhh | nah, that wouldn't be hardware... at least i wouldn't think it would be. | 18:42 |
| arrrghhh | pretty well actually | 18:42 |
| arrrghhh | fb is very fast | 18:42 |
| manekineko | boots up and everything now? | 18:42 |
| manekineko | I assume most drivers still not working | 18:43 |
| arrrghhh | and for the most part the system is faster, but i still have random hangs... i think it's the stupid SD | 18:43 |
| arrrghhh | oh yea dude | 18:43 |
| arrrghhh | they're workin on cam and BT now | 18:43 |
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| manekineko | yeah, I still have to get around to trying another filesystem | 18:43 |
| arrrghhh | got hw3d workin | 18:43 |
| manekineko | cam and BT? those barely work in .27 | 18:43 |
| arrrghhh | i know lol | 18:43 |
| arrrghhh | .39 came along pretty quickly | 18:43 |
| arrrghhh | i think they used quite a bit from .27 tho | 18:43 |
| gatoinfeliz | arrrghhh, are you using froyo's build or something else? | 18:43 |
| manekineko | sweetness | 18:43 |
| arrrghhh | gatoinfeliz, i have like 6 builds on my SD | 18:44 |
| manekineko | if cam and bt are the biggest problems, sounds like we'll be ready to switch to .39 soon | 18:44 |
| arrrghhh | i've pretty much tried everything, save a few neopeek builds. | 18:44 |
| gatoinfeliz | is there any noticable difference between them? | 18:44 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko, installs were borked but WisTilt2 fixed that. it seems he's still working on audio routing. | 18:44 |
| manekineko | between builds? huge | 18:44 |
| arrrghhh | gatoinfeliz, mostly look & feel. | 18:44 |
| arrrghhh | gingerbread feels a little faster, until you install apps :P | 18:45 |
| manekineko | heh we disagree on that point | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | the lusty speed of gb seemed to disappear when i got all mah horrible apps installed. | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | or at least diminish. | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | i still need to go thru and kill all these stupid services... | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | i saved that post from hyc, and still haven't done it :P | 18:45 |
| manekineko | I think gb might not have a significantly better average speed, but it has much better worst case handling | 18:46 |
| manekineko | much less wondering if my phone died | 18:46 |
| arrrghhh | lol if you say so | 18:46 |
| arrrghhh | gatoinfeliz, some say that other builds are faster - i still think that's related to mdpi/hdpi - basically how well it looks. so better looks, slower performance. | 18:47 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko, oh and the drain in .39 is definitely more | 18:47 |
| arrrghhh | 3-4% drain per hour in sleep is about the average it seems. | 18:47 |
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| manekineko | like .27 before WisTilt2's improvements | 18:48 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 18:48 |
| arrrghhh | and panel wake? holy poop it's awesome. | 18:48 |
| manekineko | actually better than that, it used to be like 10-15% an hour | 18:48 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:48 |
| arrrghhh | panel wake on .39 feels like it should IMHO | 18:48 |
| manekineko | nice, I thought we might end up having to live with this panel wake as the final end product | 18:48 |
| arrrghhh | i need to do some more extended tests | 18:49 |
| arrrghhh | but all mah horrible apps are now on this beast | 18:49 |
| arrrghhh | and i got data working | 18:49 |
| arrrghhh | so i'm going to run with this a few days. | 18:49 |
| manekineko | wow it's really coming along | 18:49 |
| manekineko | maybe I'll get a chance to look at that zoom bar stuff sooner than I thought =P | 18:49 |
| arrrghhh | yea assuming they get an autobuild going | 18:49 |
| arrrghhh | i'm going to ask wistilt2 to let me leak 'em like i usually do for him :D | 18:50 |
| arrrghhh | users love progress, whether it's horrible or not. and this so far is pretty good. | 18:50 |
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| manekineko | hah | 18:50 |
| arrrghhh | ah, i can always go to tiad8.com for a good laugh. | 18:57 |
| manekineko | heh that guy's still around? | 18:57 |
| arrrghhh | well he's not on xda-devs or ppcg | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | but yea, he's still kanging over on his own site now. | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | the NAND threads are the most fun. i'm honestly surprised he hasn't mucked with something and produced a bunch of bricks. | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | i guess he doesn't mess with anything that would effect that. | 18:59 |
| arrrghhh | but i wish he would. so all those n00bs would end up with a lot of paperweights. | 18:59 |
| manekineko | wow they don't even seem able to kang the stuff that is working now like RIL and BT | 19:00 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:00 |
| manekineko | heh he should just steal FRX06+ and call it his own, that's what he used to do anyway | 19:01 |
| arrrghhh | well tiad8 is really mixing stuff now. he's trying to mix neopeek's cwm with all his poop | 19:01 |
| arrrghhh | and neopeek doesn't seem to know how to properly implement his RIL. | 19:01 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko, that would require him to know about FRX06+... | 19:01 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think he even knows it exists... | 19:01 |
| manekineko | heh for a kanger, he's not very good at kanging | 19:02 |
| nautis | tiads too busy porting honeycomb :| | 19:02 |
| manekineko | oh that'll be sweet | 19:02 |
| arrrghhh | what has that freak ever ported. | 19:02 |
| arrrghhh | and yea, honeycomb... that's a good use of time. | 19:02 |
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| arrrghhh | hi guys, i just porter honeycomb 3.0 for you guys. | 19:03 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 19:03 |
| manekineko | I think it'd be more like I HAVE A SECRET TO TELL YOU, I AM NOW TESTING A NEW HONEYCOMB BUILD | 19:03 |
| chuvask | SERIUSLY? | 19:04 |
| manekineko | IT WILL BE THE BEST EVER, BUT I HAVE TO FINISH TESTING IT THIS WEEKEND | 19:04 |
| arrrghhh | nah i copypasta'd that from his post | 19:04 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 19:04 |
| arrrghhh | chuvask, i hope you realize he's kidding. | 19:04 |
| chuvask | mmm :( | 19:04 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 19:04 |
| manekineko | omg you weren't kidding arrrghhh | 19:04 |
| arrrghhh | your reaction was too perfect, i thought you were in on it. | 19:05 |
| manekineko | he did porter honeycomb 3.0 | 19:05 |
| arrrghhh | he's a good porterer | 19:05 |
| arrrghhh | Stock from tiad8 does not boot. Stuck at startup animation. Looks nice, but useless. | 19:05 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:05 |
| arrrghhh | alright, back to work. | 19:05 |
| hyc | oh, it looks like my memory problems with higher hrez H264 was just too small a dalvik vm heap | 19:06 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, orly? | 19:06 |
| hyc | still testing | 19:06 |
| nautis | nice | 19:06 |
| arrrghhh | what did you increase it to, i thought you were already on 32mb? | 19:06 |
| hyc | nope, I think I still have it unset/default | 19:06 |
| arrrghhh | Oo | 19:07 |
| arrrghhh | you? something unset/default? | 19:07 |
| arrrghhh | noes. | 19:07 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 19:07 |
| hyc | :P | 19:07 |
| manekineko | if only tiad8 were here | 19:07 |
| manekineko | that sort of tweak is his specialty | 19:07 |
| arrrghhh | stfu, say his name three times and he has to show. | 19:07 |
| manekineko | hahaha | 19:07 |
| manekineko | ...this honeycomb build of his is actually Froyo | 19:08 |
| arrrghhh | are you sure it's not that other link? | 19:08 |
| hyc | lol | 19:08 |
| arrrghhh | that's how i read the thread. meh. | 19:08 |
| nautis | beetlejuice | 19:08 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 19:08 |
| manekineko | oh yeah maybe it's that other guy's X1 build | 19:09 |
| arrrghhh | ja | 19:09 |
| arrrghhh | tiad just released something that doesn't boot for anyone. | 19:09 |
| arrrghhh | seemingly even himself... | 19:09 |
| arrrghhh | i love that. he actually released something that doesn't boot, at all. | 19:09 |
| nautis | hes got about 10 of those posted | 19:09 |
| arrrghhh | gawk | 19:09 |
| arrrghhh | seriously? | 19:10 |
| arrrghhh | i don't see why people buy into his trash. | 19:10 |
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| arrrghhh | i guess it goes back to the whole users love updates thing. good bad or indifferent, they love updates. | 19:10 |
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| nautis | users love hype... period | 19:10 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 19:10 |
| arrrghhh | true dat | 19:11 |
| nautis | doesnt even matter if it works | 19:11 |
| arrrghhh | i'm no good at hype. probably why i'm a horrible salesman. | 19:11 |
| nautis | if it doesnt work they assume they did something wrong | 19:11 |
| arrrghhh | i tell people the truth... most people don't like the truth :P | 19:11 |
| manekineko | heh Google finally got off their butts and invited me to Google Music | 19:12 |
| manekineko | guess iCloud was just the kick in the pants they needed | 19:12 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 19:13 |
| arrrghhh | i played with it for a bit. | 19:13 |
| arrrghhh | ampache fits my needs just fine, so i don't think i'll be using it. | 19:13 |
| hyc | eh nope. got past memory error, but ADSP barfs. | 19:14 |
| arrrghhh | OC will solve all your problems. | 19:15 |
| arrrghhh | OC that dsp! | 19:15 |
| hyc | heh | 19:15 |
| arrrghhh | that does suck tho. frustrating when you know the hardware can handle it without any OC... | 19:15 |
| hyc | it's quite annoying, winmo plays fine | 19:15 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 19:16 |
| hyc | oh well... | 19:16 |
| hyc | I'm beginning to think it's a simple problem, but one that can't be fixed with a simple binary patch | 19:17 |
| hyc | the library has a table of video profiles | 19:17 |
| hyc | I think a new table entry needs to be made for the higher screen rez | 19:17 |
| hyc | the only way to do that would be to get source for the library, add the table, and recompile | 19:18 |
| arrrghhh | so many tables | 19:18 |
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| gatoinfeliz | hey everyone I was wondering if we are able to store programs on the sd card. currently using FRX06 build with my Sprint Touch Pro 2. | 19:49 |
| arrrghhh | dude | 19:50 |
| arrrghhh | everything is on the SD card... | 19:51 |
| arrrghhh | so yea, you already store things on the SD. | 19:51 |
| arrrghhh | Android knows nothing of the internal storage at this time. | 19:51 |
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| arrrghhh | i guess i need to add that poop to the FAQ | 19:55 |
| arrrghhh | people seem baffled by it. i guess they're running out of space on their data.img? i never have and i have a ton of apps... | 19:56 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i don't have all five versions of Angry Birds. | 19:56 |
| arrrghhh | well there's another crappy FAQ entry. | 20:02 |
| arrrghhh | alrighty, quittin time. cya all later. | 20:04 |
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| mes | this line at 248 in wifi.c is never called: system("/bin/ip link set dev tiwlan0 name wlan0"); | 20:07 |
| mes | if done by hand at the right time, all is OK! | 20:07 |
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| Serren | manekineko, you about? | 21:21 |
| manekineko | what's up? | 21:22 |
| Serren | hi. you were helping me last night with a partition build. could I ask you a few more questions this evening as I wrap my test up? | 21:22 |
| manekineko | no prob | 21:23 |
| hyc | mes: how do you kow itks not being called? strace? | 21:23 |
| Serren | manekineko: thanks. I was following some youtube guide and it had me create 3 ext2 part's at 300mb each. you mentioned I need to put the system on 3 and data on 4 correct? just leave 2 blank correct? | 21:27 |
| manekineko | I hope that youtube guide is for XDAndroid and not a Neopeek build | 21:27 |
| manekineko | they use a different partition layout | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | well 2 *should* be for rootfs | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | but you can just burn it, and use a rootfs.img. | 21:28 |
| manekineko | as far as I know, nobody has recently managed to get 2 as rootfs working | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | this is why supporting partition builds is annoying. maddening really. | 21:28 |
| manekineko | I tried and failed, though I didn't spend hours debugging it or anything | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko, damn you by the way :D | 21:28 |
| manekineko | ? | 21:28 |
| manekineko | but I'm kind | 21:28 |
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| arrrghhh | for supporting partitioned builds :P | 21:28 |
| manekineko | Serren, yes system is 3 and data is 4 | 21:28 |
| manekineko | heh well I'm unofficial | 21:28 |
| manekineko | so it's allowed | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | you're screwing up our precedent | 21:28 |
| Serren | i'm just going to duplicate what you and hyc have going. | 21:28 |
| manekineko | 300 each is kinda overkill | 21:29 |
| manekineko | I have system at 128 | 21:29 |
| arrrghhh | 300 is def. overkill for sys | 21:29 |
| manekineko | and data can be however big you want, though I have 256 | 21:29 |
| Serren | yeah, im ok with that, i still have a 6.5 gb fat32 | 21:29 |
| arrrghhh | not so much for data... people are griping about 256 more and more. | 21:29 |
| manekineko | okay, so yeah sounds like you're on the right track | 21:30 |
| Serren | before i install the ubunto live image to move files to those ext2 part's, can I just adb the files over somehow? | 21:30 |
| arrrghhh | you don't *need* to install ubuntu | 21:31 |
| arrrghhh | you can just run it from the live enviro... | 21:31 |
| Serren | I have the hyc build running now with a no_partions, so im just on the fat32, so i should have access with adb right? | 21:32 |
| manekineko | hmm | 21:32 |
| manekineko | maybe possible, but seems like a bit pain in the ass | 21:32 |
| Serren | i was thinking of pushing the files via adb, then wipe the fat32 clean, and then let her rip | 21:33 |
| manekineko | you'd be going in on an adb shell | 21:33 |
| manekineko | and mounting the system image file | 21:33 |
| Serren | after replacing the fat32 stuff of course | 21:33 |
| manekineko | as well as your new system partition | 21:33 |
| Serren | yeah, using adb shell | 21:33 |
| manekineko | and copying all that stuff over using cp -rp | 21:33 |
| manekineko | I guess it actually sounds pretty easy now that I just typed it out | 21:34 |
| Serren | hmmm... im at your mercy for what would be easier for you to point me in the right direction. i can figure out either way, i just need your guidance, so you choose for me. :-) if you dont mine | 21:35 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:35 |
| arrrghhh | i guess you should do it thru adb shell... | 21:35 |
| arrrghhh | i think hyc just dd's it | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | but whatever. | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | assuming all that crap is in our build... | 21:36 |
| manekineko | I don't like dd'ing it, unless you're going to use exactly the same size partitions as stock | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 21:37 |
| manekineko | which I don't believe is actually necessary possible depending on flash layout or something like that | 21:37 |
| manekineko | Serren, go ahead and give it a try through adb shell | 21:37 |
| manekineko | you know how to mount things and all that in Linux I assume right? | 21:37 |
| arrrghhh | hehe | 21:38 |
| Serren | yeah, I have links bookmarked, (arrghhh tips actually) this would be to make the part read write correct? | 21:38 |
| arrrghhh | that guy is full of it. and himself. | 21:38 |
| Serren | the think i need to figure out is how to target each ext2 | 21:40 |
| Serren | like which dev is 3 | 21:41 |
| arrrghhh | ls -lah /dev/disk/by-uuid or some such thing | 21:44 |
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| manekineko | they don't show up as /dev/mmcblk0/mmcblk0p1 or something like that? | 21:53 |
| Serren | would i need to mount them before i access them? | 21:54 |
| manekineko | yeah\ | 21:54 |
| arrrghhh | oh yea they should be standard | 21:56 |
| arrrghhh | nvm | 21:56 |
| arrrghhh | then just p1-p4 | 21:57 |
| mikeyc | hey hows it going guys? | 22:03 |
| Serren | im still here, just researching commands... | 22:03 |
| mikeyc | so i havnt updated my Kernel yet... does it matter which one to get? | 22:05 |
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| mikeyc | Im running modules 2.6.27.46-01276 | 22:06 |
| arrrghhh | does it matter... hrm... | 22:07 |
| arrrghhh | well i guess it does matter, if you care about the commits. | 22:08 |
| arrrghhh | but i usually start with the newest if i'm in a random kernel grabbin kinda mood. | 22:08 |
| mikeyc | comits? well i want one that is the latest* for my phone yah know? | 22:09 |
| arrrghhh | so... grab the latest. | 22:09 |
| mikeyc | that would be great but im not sure if it is the latest. | 22:10 |
| arrrghhh | 1276 is not | 22:10 |
| arrrghhh | the one at the top of the autobuild site | 22:10 |
| arrrghhh | that would be the latest. | 22:10 |
| mikeyc | modules-2.6.27.46-01276 20110522_213148 | 22:10 |
| arrrghhh | wait | 22:11 |
| arrrghhh | what? | 22:11 |
| arrrghhh | those modules don't match that kernel date. | 22:11 |
| Serren | manekineko: it looks like I need to use the parted command, but it does not work for me | 22:11 |
| arrrghhh | did you read the incremental updates page i linked you to earlier? | 22:11 |
| arrrghhh | Serren, no parted in our build | 22:11 |
| arrrghhh | if you're in adb shell still | 22:11 |
| mikeyc | I did read the link on how to install it. but the file names online are like htc-msm-linux @ 20110522_213148 | 22:12 |
| arrrghhh | did you extract them? | 22:12 |
| manekineko | wait, are you editing your partitions via ADB? | 22:12 |
| arrrghhh | that is the newest kernel. | 22:12 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko, lol sounds like it. | 22:12 |
| manekineko | you should probably do that via something in Windows instead | 22:12 |
| arrrghhh | "something" in Windows? | 22:12 |
| Serren | im just trying to see my ext2's via adb shell | 22:13 |
| arrrghhh | Serren, why use parted | 22:13 |
| arrrghhh | that's not for seeing them | 22:13 |
| arrrghhh | that's for blowing them up | 22:13 |
| Serren | oh, i was trying that command to see my parts | 22:13 |
| mikeyc | ok I'll extracat and see what happens. Also is there a way to change the look of the phone. Like my prother has the Epic and his looks diffrent then mine. | 22:13 |
| arrrghhh | lolol | 22:14 |
| arrrghhh | there's a gingerbread build | 22:14 |
| arrrghhh | and i'm sure there's a ton of ways to change the look | 22:14 |
| arrrghhh | but i don't really care about that at this stage. | 22:15 |
| mikeyc | ok sounds good. I'll extract.. update and see what happens :) | 22:15 |
| arrrghhh | Serren, did you look at what parted does..? | 22:15 |
| arrrghhh | mikeyc, FYI kernels will NEVER change the way things look. | 22:15 |
| arrrghhh | kernels are for hardware support, like the camera and keyboard backlight. | 22:15 |
| arrrghhh | there might be hooks for them and pieces of them in userland (the system image) but the hardware support is in the kernel. | 22:16 |
| manekineko | Serren try seeing your partitions with: ls /dev/mmcblk0 | 22:16 |
| Serren | arrrghhh, yeah, i saw that it can be used to ceate and remove partiotions. but the print command does list the parts | 22:16 |
| arrrghhh | Serren, true | 22:16 |
| arrrghhh | what are you trying to "see" tho | 22:16 |
| arrrghhh | the partition layout? | 22:16 |
| arrrghhh | or what's on the partitions... | 22:16 |
| arrrghhh | or what's mounted | 22:16 |
| arrrghhh | see why supporting partitioned builds is a nightmare? | 22:16 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 22:17 |
| Serren | lol! just there /dev/names i guess :-) | 22:17 |
| arrrghhh | CWM does make some of this easier. | 22:17 |
| arrrghhh | but it's kind of a half-baked implmentation of it... | 22:17 |
| Serren | does this look proper, mount -o remount,rw /dev/mmcblk0 | 22:21 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 22:21 |
| arrrghhh | what are you doing that for | 22:21 |
| arrrghhh | that looks like the block device, not the partition | 22:21 |
| arrrghhh | and if it's not mounted, why are you remounting? | 22:21 |
| arrrghhh | damnit. manekineko what have you done. | 22:22 |
| Serren | if i just type /dev/mmcblk0 it is not found | 22:22 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 22:22 |
| Serren | so my thinking is that i need to mount first | 22:22 |
| Serren | oh, i see what your saying, no point to mount and remount | 22:23 |
| Serren | well mount -o /dev/mmcblk0 did some mumbo jumbo... lol | 22:24 |
| arrrghhh | damnit jim. | 22:25 |
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| Serren | lol... well, this shell method is beyond me. | 22:33 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 22:33 |
| arrrghhh | stick to looped mounts | 22:33 |
| arrrghhh | or maybe just winmo | 22:33 |
| * arrrghhh runs | 22:33 | |
| Serren | winmo! | 22:33 |
| arrrghhh | i heard the phone was made for it? | 22:34 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:34 |
| mikeyc | so i got lost. :( | 22:34 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 22:34 |
| arrrghhh | lots of lost sheep on #xdandroid today | 22:34 |
| arrrghhh | Serren, there's a reason we don't officially support partitioned builds - they're not easy! | 22:35 |
| mikeyc | it extracted as a .tar file | 22:35 |
| arrrghhh | mikeyc, your issue should be simple. | 22:35 |
| arrrghhh | extract it again | 22:35 |
| arrrghhh | 7z does that for some reason | 22:35 |
| arrrghhh | i wanted to figure out a way to fix it, but never really looked into it lol | 22:35 |
| Serren | how about using total commander? could that be a method? | 22:35 |
| arrrghhh | wth? | 22:36 |
| arrrghhh | Serren, maybe you should stick to WinMo... | 22:36 |
| arrrghhh | Oo | 22:36 |
| mikeyc | yay! it worked. Now to chage the start up file.. right? | 22:36 |
| arrrghhh | mikeyc, i'd recommend the second method. | 22:36 |
| hyc | y'know, if someone doesn't know linux command lines the safest thing is to tell them not to bother. | 22:36 |
| arrrghhh | rename the zImage file and delete the old ones. | 22:36 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, i tried at the beginning.... | 22:36 |
| mikeyc | ok so name them the same... | 22:36 |
| mikeyc | modules-2.6.27.46-01276-g6a6a1c1.tar | 22:37 |
| arrrghhh | no | 22:37 |
| Serren | im game to try and learn, but im also game to fail... | 22:37 |
| mikeyc | modules-2.6.27.46-01276-g6a6a1c1.tar | 22:37 |
| arrrghhh | mikeyc, on the incremental updates page, is that what it says to do? | 22:37 |
| arrrghhh | mikeyc, no | 22:37 |
| Serren | hyc, byw, i really like your music. great stuff. I think i have the same kilt. | 22:37 |
| hyc | heh | 22:37 |
| Serren | btw* | 22:37 |
| hyc | I'm ordering a tartan some time soon | 22:37 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think i've heard your music, but i do enjoy that genre. | 22:38 |
| Serren | there is this local pub called the "fox and the goose" that has an open mic night for scottish music and it is great | 22:38 |
| arrrghhh | part of my heritage, after all. | 22:38 |
| Serren | if your ever in sacramento, check it out | 22:38 |
| hyc | cool | 22:38 |
| mikeyc | my zImage has no (version) so i just delete the current Zimage and import the name one. but the other part confused me | 22:39 |
| Serren | i got my utilkilt in seattle a few years ago, and now everyone has the same black one | 22:39 |
| Serren | :-( | 22:39 |
| arrrghhh | mikeyc, dowha? | 22:39 |
| mikeyc | should i rename my modules so the new one reads the old file name? | 22:40 |
| mikeyc | and delete the old file all together? | 22:40 |
| arrrghhh | NO | 22:40 |
| arrrghhh | you do NOT rename the modules | 22:40 |
| mikeyc | ok :) | 22:41 |
| arrrghhh | delete the old modules-xxxx.tar.gz and zImage | 22:41 |
| mikeyc | here goes nothing..... | 22:41 |
| arrrghhh | and replace with new zImage/modules-xxx.tar.gz | 22:41 |
| arrrghhh | never rename modules | 22:41 |
| arrrghhh | never extract the modules | 22:41 |
| arrrghhh | only rename zImage, to zImage... | 22:41 |
| arrrghhh | oy, is it really that unclear? | 22:41 |
| mikeyc | ok great! what do you have your degree in? | 22:41 |
| mikeyc | i just like to make sure i know what im doing | 22:42 |
| arrrghhh | degree? | 22:42 |
| mikeyc | college degree | 22:43 |
| arrrghhh | i haz none | 22:44 |
| arrrghhh | hence -> degree? :P | 22:44 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 22:45 |
| arrrghhh | that incremental updates page is pretty clear | 22:45 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i'll put a caveat about don't rename the modules lol | 22:45 |
| arrrghhh | there. hopefully that's more clear... | 22:46 |
| mikeyc | you design the site? | 22:48 |
| arrrghhh | naw | 22:48 |
| arrrghhh | it's a wiki | 22:48 |
| arrrghhh | i don't really do anything except test & help out with questions. | 22:49 |
| mikeyc | ah ok :) well still you know your stuff | 22:49 |
| arrrghhh | thx | 22:49 |
| arrrghhh | been doin this for a couple o years now ;) | 22:49 |
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| arrrghhh | man i should've told that dude i invented the internet... | 22:50 |
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| arrrghhh | ohai | 22:50 |
| Serren | well the df -h command shows me some good info. could the fact that im booted up on a loop build block my ext2 parts because i named them cache, system and data? | 22:50 |
| mikeys | how long should the boot up take once I made the change? | 22:50 |
| arrrghhh | mikeys, it can take up to 10 minutes to boot | 22:50 |
| stinebd | no longer than 5 hours | 22:50 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:50 |
| mikeys | because of the update? It booted in 2 min lasttime. | 22:51 |
| mikeys | ha haaa | 22:51 |
| mikeys | thats when you know somthing is wrong :P | 22:51 |
| arrrghhh | eh it should be pretty quick if it's not creating a new data.img. | 22:51 |
| arrrghhh | you didn't delete that did you? | 22:51 |
| arrrghhh | just updated the zImage and modules... | 22:51 |
| mikeys | yes | 22:51 |
| mikeys | jk ha haa only moved 2 files | 22:51 |
| arrrghhh | moved? | 22:51 |
| arrrghhh | you deleted the old ones, yes | 22:51 |
| mikeys | transfer added | 22:52 |
| arrrghhh | and renamed the zImage_VERSION to just zImage | 22:52 |
| mikeys | yes | 22:52 |
| arrrghhh | you're seeing flying text at least? | 22:52 |
| mikeys | check check check | 22:52 |
| arrrghhh | does it make it to the boot animation? | 22:52 |
| mikeys | flying txt just started | 22:52 |
| arrrghhh | dowha? | 22:52 |
| arrrghhh | did you not click haret? lol | 22:53 |
| arrrghhh | that might slow things down. | 22:53 |
| stinebd | flying text, the little androids with the jet packs | 22:53 |
| mikeys | i did and the text is flying | 22:53 |
| arrrghhh | well you should see a boot animation after that part with flyin droids | 22:54 |
| mikeys | XDANDROID is now showing the "start up screen" | 22:54 |
| arrrghhh | spelling out yea | 22:54 |
| arrrghhh | so you're good | 22:54 |
| arrrghhh | well, at least for booting. | 22:54 |
| mikeys | ehh the true test comes.... | 22:54 |
| mikeys | soon... | 22:54 |
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| mikeys | time... check.....service...check....data...check......GPS...check....camera... frooze again oh well | 23:12 |
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