| manekineko | I can confirm Gingerbread XDAndroid voip works | 00:09 |
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| arrrghhh | w00t | 00:09 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i should look at setting that up. | 00:09 |
| manekineko | I don't know what the issue was, though, but whenever I needed to it seems like the connection stuttered and call quality went to hell | 00:09 |
| arrrghhh | i don't really use that many minutes, but hey. | 00:09 |
| stinebd | well at least something in ginger works | 00:09 |
| manekineko | hah, but that may have just been murphy's law | 00:09 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 00:09 |
| manekineko | almost everything in GB works, other than location and the recent hyc improvements | 00:10 |
| stinebd | "works" | 00:10 |
| stinebd | stuff is still dodgy even though it kinda works | 00:11 |
| arrrghhh | i used it for about a week | 00:11 |
| arrrghhh | nothing really was too busted, compared to froyo. | 00:11 |
| arrrghhh | still had fc's | 00:11 |
| manekineko | yeah, I think the downsides of GB vs. FRX are way overrated | 00:11 |
| arrrghhh | still had random weirdness. | 00:11 |
| manekineko | on the other hand, hyc has made a ton of improvements recently to FRX | 00:11 |
| manekineko | such that it's way ahead in features now | 00:11 |
| manekineko | do any of you know what the Haret kernel size limit is? | 00:12 |
| manekineko | I'm having an odd problem with my compiled kernels not wanting to boot | 00:12 |
| arrrghhh | 1.6mb i think | 00:12 |
| manekineko | oh really? | 00:13 |
| manekineko | that might be my problem | 00:13 |
| arrrghhh | dunno exactly | 00:13 |
| arrrghhh | but for this .39 kernel i had to use a different haret | 00:13 |
| manekineko | for some reason my kernels turn out slightly bigger | 00:13 |
| arrrghhh | and bump the initrd size | 00:13 |
| manekineko | starting at 1.6mb is I make no changes | 00:13 |
| arrrghhh | this is like 1.8mb. | 00:13 |
| manekineko | I wonder why using codesorcery my kernel compiles are different than the autobuild's | 00:14 |
| manekineko | I would have thought the compiler is the only variable | 00:14 |
| arrrghhh | what are you doing? | 00:14 |
| manekineko | compiler and configuration | 00:14 |
| stinebd | uname is different | 00:14 |
| stinebd | it includes the build host information | 00:14 |
| manekineko | I'm trying to make some improvements to the kernel | 00:14 |
| arrrghhh | like? i didn't know you were a kernel hacker :P | 00:15 |
| stinebd | (assuming you're talking about md5) | 00:15 |
| manekineko | I'm not really, I'm a programmer but never did kernel or any hardware programming before | 00:15 |
| manekineko | but the changes I have in mind seem pretty easy | 00:15 |
| manekineko | surprisingly, size of my compiled result is very different than autobuild | 00:16 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 00:17 |
| arrrghhh | you're a programmer? what do you do? | 00:17 |
| stinebd | he programs | 00:17 |
| manekineko | heh yeah, pretty much | 00:17 |
| stinebd | this isn't difficult arrrghhh | 00:17 |
| stinebd | like if i say i'm a farmer it means i farm | 00:18 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 00:18 |
| arrrghhh | for example, i know people that write code for vxml gateways | 00:18 |
| arrrghhh | that's kinda different from writing html for a website | 00:18 |
| arrrghhh | or c for a kernel | 00:18 |
| arrrghhh | or cobol for a mainframe... | 00:18 |
| arrrghhh | seemed like a fair question. | 00:19 |
| stinebd | writing html isn't programming | 00:19 |
| stinebd | and cobol is borderline | 00:19 |
| arrrghhh | lol fair enough. | 00:19 |
| arrrghhh | some yokels think they're programmers that make web pages. | 00:19 |
| stinebd | borderline insanity that is | 00:19 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 00:19 |
| manekineko | c/c++, java, web languages | 00:19 |
| manekineko | the usual | 00:19 |
| stinebd | php? | 00:19 |
| manekineko | nope, never worked with that one before | 00:20 |
| stinebd | good | 00:20 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:20 |
| manekineko | sucky thing is this exact same setup was compiling working kernels for me before, no idea what changed | 00:21 |
| stinebd | make mrproper? | 00:22 |
| manekineko | yeah I'll try that | 00:23 |
| manekineko | already did a git reset make clean | 00:23 |
| manekineko | where's the tweaked haret? If this doesn't work I'll just try that | 00:24 |
| arrrghhh | it's on the ML | 00:25 |
| arrrghhh | january 26th IIRC | 00:25 |
| manekineko | nice, found it, thanks | 00:26 |
| manekineko | february actually | 00:27 |
| arrrghhh | damn :P well glad you found it. | 00:27 |
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| manekineko | hyc, just read your post on the ML, on a native Android device, is it not normal that system server takes a good percentage of the battery? | 00:31 |
| manekineko | damn, no good on the make mrproper either | 00:37 |
| manekineko | I sure hate the non-programming parts of programming | 00:37 |
| manekineko | well, fortunately, the problem was just that my kernel was too large | 00:41 |
| manekineko | new haret with an initrd offset lets me boot | 00:41 |
| manekineko | of course, I still have no idea why my kernel is larger than autobuild.... | 00:41 |
| hyc | manekineko: no. usually system_server is a tiny percentage. | 00:51 |
| arrrghhh | i thought stine changed how sensors were polled to fix the sys_server bug | 00:52 |
| arrrghhh | you think that it's still being polled too frequently? | 00:52 |
| hyc | yes | 00:52 |
| hyc | it looks like he added a 1ms sleep if a poll was unsuccessful | 00:52 |
| manekineko | hmm wow, it sure would be nice to reclaim like 80% of my battery life then | 00:52 |
| manekineko | I just figured that was normal | 00:52 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:52 |
| hyc | but itjust keeps on going | 00:52 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko, i almost assume anything i see isn't normal until someone slaps me and says that's how native devices work :P | 00:53 |
| hyc | when I was playing with the light sensor I added a logmsg in the kernel to show me what the driver returned | 00:53 |
| hyc | I expected to see it once in a long while | 00:53 |
| hyc | instead it showed up continuously. | 00:53 |
| hyc | since the light sensor isn't actually correct for rhod I just commented that part out of libsensors | 00:54 |
| hyc | but the overall problem remains | 00:54 |
| arrrghhh | ambient light sensor? | 00:54 |
| hyc | libsensors is busted | 00:54 |
| hyc | yeah | 00:54 |
| arrrghhh | Oo | 00:54 |
| hyc | it shouldn't even be polling in the first place | 00:55 |
| hyc | the input device should be providing data when it has a new sensor value to report. i.e. when something has changed. | 00:55 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 00:55 |
| hyc | and for a phone sitting on a solid surface, the only thing that should be changing is the temperature reading, and that should be very very slow... | 00:56 |
| manekineko | accelerometer i that accurate? | 00:56 |
| manekineko | *is | 00:56 |
| hyc | however accurate it may be, it should not be registering any changes when the phone isn't moving :P | 00:57 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 00:59 |
| hyc | on the G1 there have been incidents of system taking 100%. usually caused by a bug in the USB driver | 00:59 |
| arrrghhh | that's a good point. | 00:59 |
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| hyc | ok, now my phone says 77% system, 12% cell stdby, 12% idle | 01:01 |
| hyc | it ought to say 90% idle... | 01:02 |
| hyc | or something :P | 01:02 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 01:02 |
| manekineko | that's pretty exciting actually, I thought this was as good as our battery life was going to get | 01:02 |
| arrrghhh | no joke | 01:02 |
| arrrghhh | i think with userland sensors fixed, our battery life will skyrocket | 01:03 |
| arrrghhh | probably past winmo. | 01:03 |
| hyc | one way to find out - turn off libsensors | 01:03 |
| arrrghhh | ha | 01:03 |
| arrrghhh | c'mon guy can't you just stare at it for 10 mins and fix it with your gaze? | 01:03 |
| hyc | LOL | 01:04 |
| manekineko | I recently found out while reading Slashdot that hyc is also a significant contributor to my other favorite project xbmc | 01:04 |
| manekineko | my jaw dropped | 01:04 |
| hyc | lol | 01:05 |
| manekineko | solving problems with his steely gaze | 01:05 |
| hyc | like i said... my code is on 100% of modern computers, one way or another | 01:05 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 01:05 |
| manekineko | heh seems you contributed a bit more to xbmc than openldap | 01:06 |
| arrrghhh | yea anytime i see anything with openldap i think hey... i know the guy who started that. | 01:06 |
| hyc | my stuff in XBMC is pretty narrow in scope | 01:07 |
| hyc | just the librtmp stuff | 01:07 |
| hyc | I haven't actually run XBMC in months | 01:08 |
| hyc | I'm not sure sensors will give us back a huge amount of battery life | 01:09 |
| hyc | in top I always saw system server at 1% CPU | 01:09 |
| hyc | after I commented out light and prox sensor, it dropped to .5% | 01:10 |
| manekineko | so what's the culprit on system? | 01:10 |
| manekineko | sucking down our batteries then | 01:10 |
| hyc | not sure | 01:10 |
| hyc | but I guess a constant 1% is still bad news | 01:10 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 01:11 |
| hyc | in terms of letting the CPU go to sleep | 01:11 |
| arrrghhh | that's wacky | 01:11 |
| hyc | the light sensor readings stopped when you turned off the display | 01:11 |
| hyc | so also I'm not sure that sensors is the only thing going on | 01:12 |
| manekineko | earlier you mentioned if you were to do the lights thing again you'd modularize | 01:12 |
| manekineko | I don't suppose you have a link handy for a good tutorial on how to do that? | 01:12 |
| hyc | ? nothing special | 01:13 |
| manekineko | k | 01:13 |
| hyc | change the kernel config | 01:13 |
| manekineko | this would be the first time I've ever messed with the Linux kernel before | 01:13 |
| hyc | when it asks to build the micro-klt and microp-ksc sensors, build as module | 01:13 |
| hyc | (in make menuconfig) | 01:13 |
| hyc | then don't forget to modprobe them in the init script otherwise you'll have nothing | 01:14 |
| hyc | what have you done with your kernel so far? you must have changed the config if you're getting a significantly different size than autobuild | 01:17 |
| hyc | and you're using the same compiler as autobuild | 01:17 |
| manekineko | that's what I figured, but I used git to checkout the origin branch | 01:18 |
| manekineko | and then did a make clean and rebuilt | 01:18 |
| manekineko | as well as a make mrproper and rebuilt | 01:18 |
| manekineko | and for some reason I'm just getting a 1.6 MB zImage | 01:18 |
| hyc | mine are about 1.6MB | 01:19 |
| manekineko | I'm using the compiled that emwe recommended, CodeSorcery, I think Q310 | 01:19 |
| manekineko | Q3 10 | 01:19 |
| manekineko | though I'm not 100% sure about that | 01:19 |
| manekineko | and right after he recommended it, it worked | 01:19 |
| manekineko | but then when I tried again today, it doesn't | 01:19 |
| hyc | heh | 01:19 |
| manekineko | hmmm, 1.6MB and yours are booting with original haret? | 01:19 |
| hyc | yeah, I've got Q310 | 01:19 |
| hyc | yep | 01:19 |
| manekineko | at any rate, at least for dev purposes, I'm happy with using the patched haret | 01:19 |
| manekineko | if anything results from this, I can just push the changes out | 01:20 |
| manekineko | and presumably have a better compiled version that works without patch | 01:20 |
| hyc | what changes are you working on? | 01:20 |
| manekineko | trying to make the zoom bar emulate multitouch pinch and zoom | 01:20 |
| hyc | heh | 01:21 |
| manekineko | figured no one else would do it, and it looks like a fairly easy change | 01:21 |
| manekineko | at least on the surface | 01:21 |
| hyc | lol | 01:21 |
| ryannathans | i moved to partitioned builld and su keeps returning permission denied | 01:21 |
| arrrghhh | yea i saw that horror ryannathans | 01:21 |
| arrrghhh | sheesh | 01:21 |
| ryannathans | whats the solution? | 01:22 |
| manekineko | so everything works for you except su? | 01:22 |
| manekineko | that's odd | 01:22 |
| arrrghhh | you probably just shouldn't use a partitioned build lmao | 01:22 |
| hyc | you're probably running the wrong one | 01:22 |
| ryannathans | *cries* | 01:22 |
| manekineko | man, everyone on the XDAndroid team hates partitioned builds | 01:22 |
| arrrghhh | no we hate supporting them. | 01:22 |
| arrrghhh | did you see the freakin ridiculousness that was helping ryannathans get it setup? | 01:23 |
| manekineko | heh | 01:23 |
| hyc | lol | 01:23 |
| manekineko | I wrote up a pretty nice tutorial on it | 01:23 |
| ryannathans | should what system should be used? | 01:23 |
| hyc | yeah, no way I would ever have spent that time walking someone thru it | 01:23 |
| manekineko | before I realized halfway through that stock XDAndroid doesn't support USB mass storage yet | 01:23 |
| arrrghhh | indeed. that's why stine doesn't want to support it. | 01:23 |
| arrrghhh | can't say i blame him. | 01:24 |
| ryannathans | as long as it's written in a guide there should be no problems | 01:24 |
| hyc | LOL | 01:25 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahahahaha | 01:25 |
| arrrghhh | i see you followed the guide real well ryannathans... | 01:25 |
| hyc | you clearly haven't been using computers for very long :D | 01:25 |
| ryannathans | a guide exists? | 01:26 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko just said he wrote up a tut on it... | 01:26 |
| manekineko | on my hard drive | 01:26 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 01:26 |
| hyc | he didn't post it | 01:26 |
| arrrghhh | i thought there was one | 01:26 |
| arrrghhh | posted. | 01:26 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps it wasn't yours... | 01:26 |
| ryannathans | i stand my ground | 01:26 |
| arrrghhh | well obviously it wasn't. | 01:26 |
| manekineko | maybe I'll post it after XDAndroid gets mass storage support | 01:26 |
| arrrghhh | ryannathans, wtf ever, it's not that hard and you dragged it out. | 01:26 |
| arrrghhh | i read the vomit in the logs. | 01:27 |
| arrrghhh | vomitlogs | 01:27 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 01:27 |
| hyc | lol | 01:27 |
| arrrghhh | which reminds me, jonpry is egging me on to try nilfs again | 01:28 |
| manekineko | you definitely should | 01:28 |
| manekineko | though after I either get done with or give up on this zoom bar business | 01:28 |
| manekineko | I'm eager to try ext4 | 01:28 |
| arrrghhh | it was fast madness | 01:28 |
| arrrghhh | ext4? | 01:28 |
| arrrghhh | no. | 01:28 |
| arrrghhh | journaled FS are a no-no on SD's. | 01:28 |
| manekineko | yeah, all the other Android on SD builds like nook and HD2 use ext4 | 01:28 |
| manekineko | and benchmarks show it's significantly faster on flash cards | 01:28 |
| arrrghhh | are they insane? | 01:29 |
| arrrghhh | i thought that was guaranteed suicide for an SD card... | 01:29 |
| manekineko | I'll take wearing out my SD card a bit faster in exchange for not wearing out my phone by throwing it out the window | 01:29 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: you're thinking swap | 01:29 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 01:29 |
| arrrghhh | i thought the journaling would blow it up too. | 01:29 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko, lmao | 01:29 |
| stinebd | manekineko: you'd be surprised how resilient phones are to that. mine recovered within a week | 01:29 |
| manekineko | hah, with a little help | 01:30 |
| manekineko | I think the article I saw with the benchmarks show it can be up to 4x faster than ext2 | 01:30 |
| arrrghhh | went back to froyo, feels just as snappy as gb. | 01:30 |
| manekineko | performance improvements on read and write | 01:30 |
| arrrghhh | meh. | 01:30 |
| arrrghhh | no apps installed probably helps. | 01:30 |
| arrrghhh | so has anyone tried ext4? | 01:34 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, i assume you use ext2 | 01:34 |
| arrrghhh | does our kernel even support it? i didn't even think about that. | 01:34 |
| arrrghhh | well, until just now :P | 01:34 |
| hyc | yeah, using ext2 | 01:34 |
| hyc | don't remember if ext4 driver is built or not | 01:35 |
| arrrghhh | what are your thoughts on that | 01:35 |
| arrrghhh | assuming the driver's built | 01:35 |
| hyc | had such a poor experience with ext3, haven't tried ext4 at all | 01:35 |
| arrrghhh | huh, it was bad on ext3? | 01:35 |
| hyc | ext3 is terrible, on anything. | 01:36 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 01:36 |
| arrrghhh | touche. | 01:36 |
| arrrghhh | although i ran it for a little while before ext4 was 'stable' | 01:36 |
| arrrghhh | on my computers... :P | 01:36 |
| hyc | I use reiserfs | 01:37 |
| stinebd | i heard that kills hard drives | 01:37 |
| stinebd | get it? kills? | 01:37 |
| hyc | :P | 01:37 |
| stinebd | cause the dude killed his wife? | 01:37 |
| hyc | yeah yeah, got it..... | 01:37 |
| stinebd | yeah i had to keep going for arrrghhh to catch up | 01:38 |
| hyc | lol | 01:38 |
| manekineko | our kernel isn't built with ext4 support | 01:40 |
| manekineko | and unfortunately .28 is when ext4 stable support was introduced | 01:40 |
| manekineko | on .27 there's only the option for ext4 experimental | 01:40 |
| stinebd | wow | 01:40 |
| stinebd | hard to believe it's only been marked stable since 28 | 01:40 |
| stinebd | seems like it was a long time ago | 01:41 |
| arrrghhh | dang i heard of reiserfs... had no clue dude that developed it was a maniac tho. | 01:58 |
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| akumax | what about .35? | 02:13 |
| arrrghhh | what about it? | 02:13 |
| arrrghhh | it's a mythical beast | 02:13 |
| arrrghhh | oh you mean for ext4 | 02:14 |
| arrrghhh | i would think if it's in .28, it'd be in .35... | 02:14 |
| arrrghhh | but the RHOD needs a lot of work to get .35 workin | 02:14 |
| arrrghhh | alex has it singing on kov, but AFAIK that's the only device that it really works well on. | 02:14 |
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| arrrghhh | oh well. | 02:25 |
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| Holraven | Hoya. | 08:44 |
| Holraven | Anyone here familiar with Rhodium / Android? | 08:44 |
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| arrrghhh | Hoyno :P | 09:26 |
| arrrghhh | Holraven, ? | 09:38 |
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| arrrghhh | fine, i didn't want to answer your questions anyways. | 09:52 |
| hyc | Is emwe using Alex's .35 as a base? | 10:06 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 10:08 |
| arrrghhh | AFAIK alex has most things working on kov on .35 | 10:08 |
| hyc | kov's keyboard stuff looks similar to rhod, I wonder how many other things are similar | 10:08 |
| arrrghhh | probably quite a bit... | 10:09 |
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| arrrghhh | emwe, how goes it | 10:22 |
| emwe | hi arrrghhh. still fighting no FN... | 10:26 |
| emwe | alex can't recall if it worked on kovs .35 | 10:26 |
| emwe | just started investigating yesterday... | 10:26 |
| arrrghhh | SHIT!!! i'm going to stab Excel in the face. | 10:27 |
| emwe | libreoffice :P | 10:27 |
| arrrghhh | i hate this software. i try to change the fill color on columns, and it crashes constantly. | 10:27 |
| arrrghhh | yea, i'm @ work. | 10:27 |
| arrrghhh | i think i installed openoffice tho... | 10:27 |
| arrrghhh | hrm i wonder if it'll read these stupid docs... | 10:27 |
| emwe | i only use libreoffice @home and @work | 10:28 |
| emwe | (if i have to at all) | 10:28 |
| hyc | I have openoffice, haven't updated since the libreoffice fork | 10:28 |
| arrrghhh | functionality didn't really change, they just changed the logos and forked from openoffice because of oracle? | 10:29 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't really read up on that debacle. | 10:29 |
| arrrghhh | my dad kept asking about how to go back to openoffice, i said libreoffice will work just fine lol | 10:29 |
| arrrghhh | this google music interface is pretty slick | 10:30 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder how i'm going to get all my music up to it tho, it's all on my server heh. | 10:30 |
| arrrghhh | somehow i doubt there's a cli client to upload to google music :P | 10:31 |
| rpierce99 | web interface or did you get the app working? | 10:31 |
| arrrghhh | webUI on my PC | 10:31 |
| arrrghhh | haven't messed with the app yet. | 10:31 |
| arrrghhh | i haven't even uploaded any music, just took all their free poop. | 10:31 |
| hyc | so what's so special about google music? | 10:31 |
| rpierce99 | i got my invite last night, but i don't really ever listen to music | 10:31 |
| arrrghhh | i'll probably blast it all out when i go to upload my own | 10:31 |
| rpierce99 | probably should have left the invite for someone who will use it more | 10:31 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, 20,000 songs in the cloud. available anywhere, on 'any' device. | 10:31 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, lol | 10:32 |
| hyc | woohoo | 10:32 |
| arrrghhh | i listen to music a lot... | 10:32 |
| hyc | nothing I want to hear | 10:32 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 10:32 |
| hyc | i have ~400 CDs of Celtic music here, most out of print | 10:32 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, you can obviously upload your own music. | 10:32 |
| hyc | will they keep it in FLAC? or what's their base format... | 10:32 |
| arrrghhh | bwhhahaha | 10:32 |
| arrrghhh | so it'll accept FLAC songs | 10:32 |
| arrrghhh | but IIRC, it downmixes to 320mp3... | 10:33 |
| hyc | yuck | 10:33 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 10:33 |
| hyc | I have all my music in AAC in OGG files | 10:33 |
| hyc | on my phone, anyway | 10:33 |
| arrrghhh | definitely not an audiophile solution | 10:33 |
| hyc | on my PC it's FLAC... | 10:33 |
| arrrghhh | yea, most of mine are AAC bleh | 10:33 |
| arrrghhh | better than MP3... if only just. | 10:34 |
| hyc | yeah | 10:34 |
| hyc | I still liked the sound quality of Sony ATRAC | 10:34 |
| hyc | but as usual, Sony were jerks... | 10:34 |
| arrrghhh | but there's no indication on the interface what type of file the song is | 10:34 |
| arrrghhh | i also don't see any way of downloading the songs, but i guess that would make sense. | 10:34 |
| hyc | I think I'll pass | 10:34 |
| arrrghhh | certainly not for everyone. | 10:35 |
| hyc | I only have a gmail account because of the android phone. I never login to it. the less google has of my stuff the better. | 10:35 |
| arrrghhh | i just like the concept of having a lot of my tunes available | 10:35 |
| arrrghhh | hahahaha | 10:35 |
| hyc | yeah, which is why I have my own web server | 10:35 |
| arrrghhh | they probably have too much of my stuff. oh well. | 10:35 |
| arrrghhh | i have my own web server, i use ampache. | 10:35 |
| arrrghhh | gawd, why am i using google music? lol | 10:36 |
| arrrghhh | just a sucker for flashy stuff i guess. | 10:36 |
| emwe | so who's gonna try ext4? | 10:38 |
| hyc | wow, two of my patches submitted to google got replies. both rejected of course. | 10:39 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 10:39 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, gimmie .35 | 10:39 |
| rpierce99 | i'm so confused, when I signed up it asked me if i wanted the free music and i said no, but it said i could add it later, now i can't find it in the UI | 10:39 |
| hyc | the rejection is OK, I submitted against froyo and ginger branch and they only accept patches against master | 10:39 |
| hyc | reasonable policy ... | 10:40 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 10:40 |
| hyc | hey I wanna try rhod .35 too, is your tree up on gitorious? | 10:40 |
| emwe | hyc: yes, htc-msm-2.6.35 | 10:40 |
| emwe | let me cleanup rhod boardfile... have some commits pending still | 10:41 |
| hyc | ok | 10:41 |
| emwe | ts calib isn't that right | 10:41 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 10:41 |
| emwe | if you can wait a bit more... | 10:41 |
| arrrghhh | no | 10:41 |
| arrrghhh | i booted .39 yesterday | 10:41 |
| emwe | and that msm_ts power saving patch from CA is screwing up function after resume | 10:41 |
| arrrghhh | that was impressive to see in the about phone section :P | 10:41 |
| emwe | which fixed it for kovs | 10:41 |
| emwe | broke it for topa and rhod | 10:42 |
| emwe | hehe | 10:42 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, it said you could add them later? i thought it was a one-shot thing. | 10:42 |
| hyc | who are those CA guys, what're they doing? | 10:42 |
| rpierce99 | i swore it said you could go back and get them later | 10:43 |
| arrrghhh | if you say so. i don't see how to either, but i already added 'em. | 10:43 |
| emwe | codeaurora being the community effor of qualcomm mroe or less | 10:43 |
| emwe | effort | 10:43 |
| hyc | ah | 10:43 |
| emwe | hosting their trees there | 10:43 |
| emwe | so quic - qualcomm innovation center beint part of the party | 10:44 |
| arrrghhh | tell them to release all the GPS crap so we can get aGPS | 10:44 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, what DE do you like to use? | 10:46 |
| hyc | seems like they have some pretty recent stuff in their git | 10:46 |
| hyc | DE? bunch of terminals and vi | 10:46 |
| arrrghhh | o right. | 10:47 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 10:47 |
| arrrghhh | silly me. | 10:47 |
| emwe | pretty recent? well, the are the chip makers ;) | 10:47 |
| hyc | yeah, but it's good to see they're on .39 and .40 | 10:47 |
| hyc | not all chip makers stay current | 10:48 |
| emwe | they are? | 10:48 |
| rpierce99 | I thought there wasn't going to be a .40 | 10:48 |
| hyc | dunno | 10:48 |
| arrrghhh | lolwut | 10:48 |
| hyc | there's a "for-40" branch in their repo | 10:48 |
| arrrghhh | why wouldn't there be a .40? | 10:48 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: if you press keys on .27, you see scancode output in dmesg? | 10:50 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think so | 10:50 |
| arrrghhh | i assume you mean kbd keys and not the 4-button keys at the bottom? | 10:50 |
| hyc | https://www.codeaurora.org/xwiki/bin/QAEP/ they haven't supported MSM72xx since cupcake | 10:50 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: keyboard keys. yes. | 10:51 |
| hyc | nope | 10:51 |
| emwe | don't wanna go back :/ | 10:51 |
| arrrghhh | yea there's no output in dmesg when i press individual keys | 10:52 |
| arrrghhh | you would expect that...? | 10:52 |
| emwe | there's debug output. likely not enabled in default | 10:53 |
| arrrghhh | probably not | 10:53 |
| emwe | ok, let's go .27 quickly... | 10:54 |
| rpierce99 | i tried to find the original article i read it in but this one seems to be almost a word for word copy, so it will do: http://www.raiden.net/node/653 | 10:56 |
| hyc | ok, on my G1 that's been sitting idle for a while | 10:57 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, oh ok that makes sense. | 10:57 |
| hyc | cell standby 42% | 10:57 |
| hyc | phone idle 24% | 10:57 |
| hyc | android system 18% | 10:57 |
| hyc | android OS 8% | 10:57 |
| hyc | gapps 2% | 10:58 |
| hyc | dialer 2% | 10:58 |
| arrrghhh | jessica simpson, wtf google. | 10:58 |
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| emwe | gotta drive gf around. laters. | 11:10 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 11:10 |
| arrrghhh | enjoy | 11:10 |
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| emwe | hm, think i spotted an "issue" | 11:10 |
| arrrghhh | w/your gf? | 11:11 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 11:11 |
| emwe | .35 microp-keypad doesn't disable the irq | 11:11 |
| arrrghhh | o | 11:11 |
| emwe | and re-enables | 11:11 |
| emwe | not sure | 11:11 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 11:11 |
| emwe | keypad microp/i2c reading | 11:11 |
| emwe | anyway, gotta go. | 11:11 |
| arrrghhh | cya | 11:11 |
| emwe | hm. re. | 11:14 |
| emwe | still some seconds left :) | 11:14 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 11:14 |
| arrrghhh | if she's still getting ready, probably 20 mins.. | 11:14 |
| emwe | btw, she usually drives on herself. she's sick | 11:14 |
| emwe | no, not that long | 11:14 |
| emwe | some circulation issue, so she doesn't really like to drive on her own | 11:15 |
| emwe | those mail and sms buttons do nothing yet arrrghhh ? | 11:15 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 11:15 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i've never pressed them | 11:15 |
| arrrghhh | oh wait | 11:16 |
| emwe | lol | 11:16 |
| arrrghhh | on f22's rootfs they do | 11:16 |
| emwe | ah i see | 11:16 |
| arrrghhh | on stock rootfs, they're probably useless. | 11:16 |
| arrrghhh | ;) | 11:16 |
| emwe | sms produces a caret sign | 11:16 |
| emwe | mail nothing | 11:16 |
| arrrghhh | stock rootfs? | 11:16 |
| emwe | of course :P | 11:16 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 11:16 |
| arrrghhh | yea, F22 helped with that | 11:16 |
| emwe | i am not for too long in thta keyb business you know | 11:17 |
| arrrghhh | dude has been scarce lately, i don't think his crap is ever getting committed... | 11:17 |
| arrrghhh | yea, you poor topaz soul :P | 11:17 |
| emwe | topa got back it's SIM today :) | 11:17 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 11:17 |
| emwe | so, but now! laters :) | 11:18 |
| arrrghhh | cya ;) | 11:19 |
| arrrghhh | who the hell is dragonette? | 11:19 |
| arrrghhh | wow. libreoffice seems like it'll be way better than m$ office. | 11:21 |
| arrrghhh | hopefully it doesn't blow up every 5 mins, i'll be good. | 11:21 |
| rpierce99 | you know how sometimes you are typing and your reflexes kick in and you type a word that is similar to the word you wanted to type and you typed it because you've typed it a lot in the past | 11:26 |
| rpierce99 | i just typed rootfs by habit instead of roots | 11:27 |
| hyc | heh | 11:27 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 11:27 |
| hyc | oh. I bought a "mirror finish" screen protector on eBay. nasty thing. | 11:30 |
| hyc | wish I had just bought a regular clear one. | 11:30 |
| hyc | it's got this weird rainbow-colored distortion all over the screen | 11:31 |
| rpierce99 | what is this i don't even | 11:31 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. now libreoffice is completely locked up. i guess no office suite wants to deal with this spreadsheet. | 11:31 |
| hyc | like watching a bad 3D movie | 11:31 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, aw | 11:31 |
| rpierce99 | why would you ever want a screen to be a mirror | 11:31 |
| arrrghhh | i wish you had asked, i would've told you to stay away. | 11:31 |
| hyc | it sounded cool at the time :P | 11:31 |
| arrrghhh | i did the same thing | 11:31 |
| arrrghhh | +1 | 11:31 |
| arrrghhh | i thought it would be nice, assuming it didn't effect the screen functionality. welll... it does. | 11:31 |
| hyc | yeah, big time | 11:32 |
| arrrghhh | don't feel so bad, i did the same thing ;) | 11:33 |
| arrrghhh | fortunately they took it back & exchanged it. | 11:33 |
| hyc | heh. live'n'learn | 11:33 |
| hyc | they offered to take my unused one back | 11:33 |
| hyc | it was a pair for $4 | 11:33 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 11:33 |
| hyc | but I actually installed both of them 'cause I botched the first one | 11:33 |
| rpierce99 | arrrghhh: isn't that like saying don't feel so bad for running into that telephone pole, my 90 year old grandma who is legally blind and cant see over the steering wheel did the same thing | 11:33 |
| hyc | lol | 11:33 |
| arrrghhh | hey, what are you tryin to say. | 11:34 |
| rpierce99 | i'm not really sure, just taking a shot | 11:34 |
| arrrghhh | bastage. | 11:34 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 11:34 |
| rpierce99 | 95 of 597 songs added... | 11:35 |
| arrrghhh | 597 | 11:35 |
| arrrghhh | i want to try and put all my favorites up thar | 11:35 |
| arrrghhh | fill the bitch | 11:35 |
| arrrghhh | and hopefully they don't revoke it and make me pay for it later :P | 11:36 |
| hyc | lol | 11:36 |
| hyc | all they're gonna do is mine your music preferences and lump you in with everyone else with similar prefs | 11:36 |
| hyc | and then sell your name to advertisers | 11:36 |
| rpierce99 | this is literally every song I have, even the crap that I only play at halloween, christmas, every 3rd tuesday, etc | 11:36 |
| arrrghhh | really? | 11:37 |
| arrrghhh | jeez. | 11:37 |
| arrrghhh | i have an organized & unorganized collection | 11:37 |
| rpierce99 | if you scroll all the way to the bottom of a list on music beta do you get the spinning wheel that locks up the page? | 11:38 |
| arrrghhh | certainly not. | 11:39 |
| rpierce99 | hmmm, might be autopagerizer then | 11:39 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 11:40 |
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| hyc | USB mass storage is slow..... ~1.2MB/sec | 11:52 |
| arrrghhh | must be your machine | 11:53 |
| * arrrghhh runs | 11:53 | |
| hyc | :P | 11:54 |
| hyc | just copied 650MB of AACs to it | 11:55 |
| hyc | nice sound | 11:56 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 11:57 |
| manekineko | no oddness with playback where is skips to the end of some files after crashing the audio for a moment? | 12:07 |
| hyc | so far just playing straight thru | 12:07 |
| hyc | but like I mentioned before, there are no ID3 tags in my files | 12:08 |
| manekineko | oh, right | 12:08 |
| ryannathans | woot | 12:08 |
| ryannathans | :P | 12:08 |
| manekineko | oddly, it doesn't read all my id3 tags properly either, which I would be surprised to find out is the case with native devices | 12:08 |
| manekineko | some of them that it plays back it seems unable to read some of the fields from | 12:08 |
| ryannathans | I will test it tomorrow for you | 12:08 |
| hyc | why would you be surprised? | 12:08 |
| ryannathans | put you out of your pain :P | 12:08 |
| hyc | Android userland is mostly device independent | 12:09 |
| manekineko | seems like basic, important functionality for the mass market to be missing from native devices | 12:09 |
| manekineko | plus, we may or may not have something wrong with our id3 parser that crashes audio | 12:09 |
| hyc | but the id3 parser is the same one that all android devices run | 12:09 |
| ryannathans | I guess we should all go back to nokia devices then | 12:10 |
| manekineko | plus, I used to be able to play this exact some song without crashing 6 months ago | 12:10 |
| hyc | perhaps a db corruption somewhere | 12:10 |
| manekineko | though this bug is a little unpredictable, so maybe not | 12:10 |
| arrrghhh | go back to? who said we ever used nokia devices? | 12:10 |
| manekineko | plus, this bug affects both my GB and FRX builds the same way | 12:11 |
| ryannathans | I was meaning non-smartphone days :P | 12:11 |
| rpierce99 | manekineko: why don't you set up jdwp (?) and debug that crap | 12:11 |
| hyc | indeed | 12:11 |
| manekineko | yeah......maybe I will when I get a chance | 12:11 |
| manekineko | haven't done any work in Java in quite a long time | 12:12 |
| ryannathans | Join the club. | 12:12 |
| rpierce99 | doesn't really require java knowledge, i'd think if you can get it to debug the right app and know the exception you can set it to break on exception | 12:12 |
| hyc | wouldn't it just break to debugger on any exception? | 12:13 |
| rpierce99 | i never got the break on exception to work in Eclipse though | 12:13 |
| hyc | ah | 12:13 |
| hyc | Eclipse? I just used jdb | 12:13 |
| rpierce99 | it has you pick from like 10 versions of the same exception | 12:13 |
| hyc | it's a bit of a pain tho, no commandline editing | 12:13 |
| rpierce99 | i'm more comfortable in an IDE | 12:13 |
| hyc | I'm more comfortable having enough free RAM that my entire machine doesn't run like a slug | 12:15 |
| hyc | ;) | 12:15 |
| rpierce99 | i have 8gb ram in this mutha, even eclipse can't screw that up | 12:15 |
| arrrghhh | hyc still has 64mb | 12:15 |
| hyc | :P | 12:15 |
| hyc | 4GB, guess it's time to buy another SODIMM for this notebook | 12:15 |
| hyc | oh damn. I should have made my swap partition 8GB when I partitioned this SSD | 12:16 |
| manekineko | wow, really did just get spurred to buy another 4 GB of RAM just like that? | 12:17 |
| hyc | lol | 12:17 |
| hyc | been thinking about it for months | 12:17 |
| rpierce99 | gotta keep up with the joneses :P | 12:17 |
| hyc | I mean, I ordered this with a single slot 4GB SODIMM cause I knew I'd expand it down the road | 12:18 |
| rpierce99 | good call | 12:18 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 12:18 |
| arrrghhh | i know the rule of thumb is 2x swap for RAM, but it seems like systems with a TON of RAM that's not necessary... | 12:19 |
| hyc | no, 2x doesn't really apply any more | 12:19 |
| manekineko | I thought rule of thumb is 1x | 12:19 |
| hyc | at this point I only size swap to be big enough for suspend2disk to work | 12:19 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 12:20 |
| hyc | tho it's gotten to the point that reading and writing 8GB of RAM to an SSD may actually be slower than just a regular shutdown / reboot :P | 12:20 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko, depends on RAM. | 12:20 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, seriously lol | 12:20 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko, if you've only got 256mb of RAM, 256mb swap will get eaten up pretty quickly. | 12:21 |
| manekineko | heh that's true | 12:21 |
| arrrghhh | depending on what you're doing, obviously. | 12:21 |
| manekineko | though if you've got 256 of RAM on a modern OS, you're going to be punching your computer in its face | 12:21 |
| arrrghhh | pretty much hahaha | 12:22 |
| arrrghhh | crap, i should go upgrade this voicemail server. bbl | 12:23 |
| rpierce99 | voicemail server us running server 2008 w/ 256mb of ram | 12:29 |
| arrrghhh | RHEL bitches | 12:44 |
| arrrghhh | and the nodes have 8gb each :P | 12:44 |
| hyc | so I got the Recognized Developer tag on the forums now. woohoo | 12:46 |
| hyc | I can now close my own threads | 12:46 |
| arrrghhh | w00t | 12:46 |
| arrrghhh | that's nice... | 12:46 |
| arrrghhh | kinda wish i had that, but i certainly don't deserve that moniker lol | 12:47 |
| hyc | heh, now if I could delete garbage posts on my threads..... | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | you'd just delete 'em all :P | 12:47 |
| emwe | re. | 12:51 |
| emwe | manekineko: gb is much better with id3 handling. i had several id3v2.3 not being recognized. rather most of my files where not recognized. not seen anything wrong on gb yet. all fine. | 12:52 |
| emwe | don't recall if i have v2.4 ones with utf-8 encoding around there. worth a try... | 12:52 |
| ryannathans | emwe: minekineko reproduced the bug on GB, not sure if it was same bug but symtoms were the same | 12:56 |
| ryannathans | manekineko* | 12:56 |
| emwe | oh. then i must have seen something different. | 12:56 |
| emwe | basically froyo got me no id3 tags at all iirc | 12:56 |
| ryannathans | we got this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1096895 | 12:58 |
| manekineko | ah didn't check the tag reading on GB | 12:58 |
| manekineko | just confirmed that file playback still exhibited the odd audio crashing glitch | 12:59 |
| ryannathans | ahh | 12:59 |
| ryannathans | emwe: its not just id3, it is id3v2.3 specificailly | 12:59 |
| emwe | there's different varations to 2.3 as well | 13:00 |
| ryannathans | As noted in the thread :P | 13:00 |
| emwe | encoding wise iirc latin1 and utf-16? | 13:00 |
| ryannathans | was thinking it was caused by windows throwing in ascii chars | 13:01 |
| manekineko | I'm still not completely convinced this problem is related to the id3 tags | 13:01 |
| ryannathans | well I had a bunch of ID3v2.3 (ID3v1 ID3v2.3) - 100 tracks, none played. Removed tags and they all work fine. | 13:02 |
| emwe | perhaps try different encodings and see what happens | 13:02 |
| emwe | what was that tool again? | 13:02 |
| emwe | mpetag... you can set the encoding in the prefs | 13:02 |
| emwe | mp3tag... | 13:03 |
| ryannathans | if you guys don't sort it out tonight ill look at it tomorrow afternoon again | 13:03 |
| ryannathans | going to bed shortly | 13:03 |
| ryannathans | night. | 13:06 |
| manekineko | night | 13:06 |
| emwe | night | 13:10 |
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| emwe | ah man... fn fixed. alex used a uint8_t to store the retrieved key from the keymap table. those actually exceed 255. KEY_FN=464 | 14:23 |
| hyc | lol | 14:24 |
| emwe | that var actually wasn't used for anything else just for the assignment. whondered about that already... | 14:24 |
| emwe | ok, going to revert my mess. | 14:25 |
| emwe | and that .27 keymap - said to be rhod400 - looks a bit messy as well | 14:25 |
| emwe | i did my "own" as i didn't know there was one already defined. there's stuff defined in there with KEY_foo assigned several times. strangeness | 14:25 |
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| arrrghhh | emwe, supposedly F22 cleaned all that up. | 14:45 |
| arrrghhh | unfortunately, he has yet to commit anything... | 14:45 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: i am talking about the kernel one though | 14:46 |
| emwe | dunno if you meant that | 14:46 |
| arrrghhh | oh? | 14:46 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i didn't think about a keymap there :P | 14:46 |
| arrrghhh | i associate keymaps to rootfs :P | 14:46 |
| emwe | me neither. that's why i enabled debug and did look at scancodes and mapped to keycodes | 14:47 |
| emwe | the penalty for owning a non-keyb device | 14:48 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 14:48 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 14:48 |
| arrrghhh | i <3 my kbd, assuming it works properly lol :P | 14:48 |
| emwe | ok, all fine now. | 14:49 |
| emwe | plz don't expect any miracles. no led stuff yet. | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | eh i wanted you to get the 3.5mm jack workin | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | but it sounds like ACL might've beat you to the punch. | 14:51 |
| emwe | ? | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | i've been trying to get that guy to work on that for ages :P | 14:51 |
| emwe | i am rather getting the basics to work, eh? | 14:52 |
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| emwe | and you fix gps on gb in between. | 14:52 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | i'll get right on that :D | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | hyc and his chuck norris powers should just scare libgps into workin | 14:54 |
| emwe | i whonder why he hasn't started on that one yet... | 14:59 |
| * emwe runs | 14:59 | |
| arrrghhh | hehehe | 15:00 |
| arrrghhh | he's focused on froyo | 15:00 |
| arrrghhh | did you see his comments on libsensors? | 15:00 |
| emwe | as you mention it. | 15:03 |
| emwe | on gb is silence ;) | 15:04 |
| emwe | no accel | 15:04 |
| emwe | and fake lightsensor which only returns one fake value to userland in order to get autobacklight to work in userland and then just always tells there's nothing new. | 15:05 |
| emwe | userland needs it like that. | 15:05 |
| arrrghhh | huh | 15:06 |
| arrrghhh | so many things. | 15:06 |
| emwe | i can see your sarcasm boy :P | 15:07 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 15:07 |
| arrrghhh | hey now | 15:07 |
| hyc | I gotta take a break for a couple weeks, get some other projects done | 15:19 |
| arrrghhh | noes | 15:19 |
| arrrghhh | you're a full time employee of XDAndroid | 15:19 |
| arrrghhh | did i mention we pay you by clicking the thanks buttons on your posts? | 15:20 |
| emwe | hyc: oh noes. but you left a pile of stuff to take over. thx! | 15:21 |
| hyc | lol | 15:22 |
| emwe | that will keep us busy for quite a while :) | 15:22 |
| hyc | I think I've pushed all my stuff to gitorious by now | 15:22 |
| arrrghhh | no joke | 15:22 |
| arrrghhh | you can probably take two weeks off and still come back to us scratching our heads. | 15:23 |
| emwe | yeah, just saw your reboot+kexec | 15:23 |
| hyc | in my hycdroid project if not in xdandroid | 15:23 |
| rpierce99 | probably a good thing, if hyc keeps piling on new stuff we'll never get anything out | 15:23 |
| hyc | cool | 15:23 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:23 |
| hyc | LOL | 15:23 |
| arrrghhh | i think i'm going to banish analog devices from our network... | 15:27 |
| arrrghhh | who needs fax machines and postage meters. | 15:27 |
| arrrghhh | it's called email... and email. | 15:27 |
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| rpierce99 | sweet, google music streaming enabled :) | 17:33 |
| arrrghhh | w00t | 17:34 |
| arrrghhh | for all 597 of your songs lol | 17:34 |
| rpierce99 | only 517 are uploaded | 17:35 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 17:35 |
| rpierce99 | and as they are uploading i'm noticing i have a lot of dupes | 17:35 |
| arrrghhh | i shouldn't laugh, none of my music is uploaded heh | 17:35 |
| arrrghhh | zomg | 17:35 |
| arrrghhh | dupes in a library of less than 1,000 | 17:35 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:35 |
| rpierce99 | i have very few songs I don't own, and I only own like 10 cds | 17:36 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | i've had three large CD collections | 17:40 |
| arrrghhh | all of them stolen | 17:40 |
| arrrghhh | i have a ton of empty cases | 17:40 |
| arrrghhh | so i'm not going to re-buy them all a fourth time... | 17:40 |
| arrrghhh | so i guess my collection isn't legit, since i don't have the original disc | 17:40 |
| arrrghhh | but i have the original case lol | 17:40 |
| rpierce99 | it's a funny world where the thiefs collection is more legit than yours | 17:41 |
| arrrghhh | yea... | 17:41 |
| rpierce99 | the external speaker is actually pretty good | 17:45 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 17:46 |
| arrrghhh | w/the new audio routing it'll blast too | 17:47 |
| rpierce99 | yeah i thought about reinstalling that if i'm going to actually use this thing to play music | 17:47 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 17:47 |
| hyc | hm, new thread on ADB and USB | 17:57 |
| hyc | really no special steps should be needed on recent autobuilds | 17:57 |
| hyc | our phone now ide3ntifies itself exactly the same as a G1 | 17:57 |
| hyc | so the regular google android drivers should just work | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 17:58 |
| arrrghhh | i dunno | 17:58 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i should test it fresh | 17:58 |
| hyc | anyone seeing CDC ACm is running an old kernel before the USB fix | 17:59 |
| hyc | which will definitely make things harder | 17:59 |
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| ryannathans | hyc: wifi isn't working with your system/kernel/modules/rootfs and nor is data | 21:46 |
| arrrghhh | ryannathans, are you serious | 21:46 |
| ryannathans | all I did was replace everything with his | 21:47 |
| ryannathans | deleted data.img too :P | 21:47 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 21:47 |
| arrrghhh | you're kidding yourself | 21:47 |
| arrrghhh | or you're full of yourself. | 21:47 |
| ryannathans | same problem on my partitioned and loopback | 21:48 |
| ryannathans | eh? | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | are you that clueless dude? | 21:48 |
| ryannathans | I read his whole page | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | You use these files at your own risk! I make no guarantees that they will work for you. For all I know they'll blow up your phone. Whatever happens is your responsibility. I didn't ask you to run my stuff, you chose to come looking here yourself. If you have problems with these files I will not help you. It's all on you. | 21:50 |
| arrrghhh | did you read that part? | 21:50 |
| ryannathans | Yeah I did. -.- | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | so... which is it | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | full of yourself? | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | kidding yourself? | 21:51 |
| ryannathans | Considering it was designed for rhod's I thought everyone would be having this problem | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | no. | 21:51 |
| ryannathans | meh Ima just play around with it then | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | enjoy | 21:51 |
| manekineko | ryannathans, I'm on one of his older builds and wifi and data worked fine there | 22:06 |
| manekineko | and I know people are on his newer builds with working wifi and data | 22:06 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 22:07 |
| arrrghhh | i use 'em myself.. | 22:07 |
| arrrghhh | among the other crap i test, his is my daily froyo build. | 22:07 |
| nautis | works fine here too | 22:08 |
| hyc | works fine here ;) | 22:09 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 22:09 |
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| hyc | honest to god man. everything in my build Just Works. Nothing to edit, nothing to tweak. | 22:13 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 22:13 |
| arrrghhh | it's just like the whole partitioned build saga | 22:13 |
| hyc | yeah | 22:14 |
| arrrghhh | ryannathans, perhaps you should stick to WinMo | 22:14 |
| hyc | how can you possibly get it wrong. put in the rootfs, put in the system, put in the kernel and modules. run haret. | 22:14 |
| hyc | and now with my latest patches you don't even need to see winmo on reboots. just kexec straight into a new linux kernel from the currently running one. | 22:16 |
| arrrghhh | billy | 22:16 |
| arrrghhh | bad | 22:16 |
| arrrghhh | ass | 22:16 |
| hyc | lol | 22:17 |
| arrrghhh | i think acl is frothing at the mouth for that on NAND heh | 22:17 |
| hyc | NAND isn't quite as dire, at least it boots straight into Android instead of winmo first | 22:17 |
| arrrghhh | true | 22:18 |
| arrrghhh | but reflashing to replace kernels | 22:18 |
| arrrghhh | i think he might've partially solved that | 22:18 |
| arrrghhh | but it'd be nice to sideload from sd card, a la vogue. | 22:18 |
| hyc | oh yeah... it's great for testing new kernels | 22:18 |
| nautis | burn the witch! | 22:18 |
| arrrghhh | lolwut | 22:19 |
| nautis | that sounds amazing | 22:19 |
| rpierce99 | how do you know she's a witch? | 22:19 |
| nautis | sorry I assumed it works by magic | 22:19 |
| hyc | kexec has been around since 2004 | 22:20 |
| hyc | kind of a shame that it's not used more widely | 22:20 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, i have a flow chart of that entire sketch in my cube. | 22:20 |
| arrrghhh | i mean my swanky office... | 22:21 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:21 |
| rpierce99 | burn her anyway! | 22:21 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 22:21 |
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