| arrrghhh | well downloads from the Market are still dog slow | 00:02 |
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| arrrghhh | but the phone is still responsive while it's going :D | 00:02 |
| D3tul3 | arrrghhh: looped builds should be able to coexist on a sdcard that is set up for partition use right? | 00:05 |
| arrrghhh | no | 00:07 |
| arrrghhh | not without hacked init | 00:07 |
| arrrghhh | which isn't hard | 00:07 |
| arrrghhh | but required :P | 00:07 |
| arrrghhh | basically it looks for partitions - if it sees p3 and p4, it assumes you want to boot from them. | 00:07 |
| arrrghhh | i just commented out that section of init | 00:07 |
| arrrghhh | got rid of the if statement basically, so it would always use looped builds. | 00:08 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry, phone seems to have frozen installing an app | 00:08 |
| arrrghhh | i tried to keep the screen on, but failed | 00:08 |
| arrrghhh | Oo there it is. holy crap batman | 00:08 |
| arrrghhh | heh. just says 'intalling' still | 00:08 |
| jonpry | yeah thats kind of where i am at | 00:09 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 00:09 |
| jonpry | but it makes no sense. the code i added either has no effect, or printk's holy shit to dmesg | 00:09 |
| D3tul3 | thanks i think i'll add a check in that if statement if rel_path!="" to boot from a looped system | 00:10 |
| arrrghhh | D3tul3, whatever works ;) | 00:10 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't actually try it | 00:11 |
| arrrghhh | but i would think you can do a bind mount... | 00:11 |
| arrrghhh | maybe not | 00:11 |
| arrrghhh | might bind too late in the process | 00:11 |
| arrrghhh | actually now that i think about it, almost definitely would. | 00:11 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry, sometimes the phone becomes very unresponsive when it is trying to sleep | 00:12 |
| arrrghhh | you seeing the same thing? | 00:12 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps it's the failed app installed | 00:12 |
| arrrghhh | install* | 00:12 |
| jonpry | yeah i think if its trying to sleep and it gets woken up at just the right time its not good | 00:12 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 00:12 |
| arrrghhh | that's one way to put it :P | 00:12 |
| arrrghhh | i just don't think i've seen a solid green led | 00:13 |
| jonpry | starts waking up and going to sleep at the same time | 00:13 |
| arrrghhh | or... any green LED for that matter | 00:13 |
| arrrghhh | that sounds bad. | 00:13 |
| jonpry | yeah i have that too. i think its post install | 00:13 |
| jonpry | the installer probably has a wake lock | 00:13 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 00:13 |
| arrrghhh | i've got all sorts of wake locks. | 00:15 |
| arrrghhh | evdev, infamous PowerManagerService, i2c | 00:15 |
| arrrghhh | i see several expiring... | 00:15 |
| arrrghhh | but never PowerManagerService | 00:15 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 00:16 |
| jonpry | that thing is evil | 00:18 |
| arrrghhh | seriously | 00:19 |
| arrrghhh | it must encompass a lot | 00:19 |
| arrrghhh | or just used as a scapegoat a lot :P | 00:20 |
| arrrghhh | usually when i see wakelocks, that bitch is one of 'em | 00:20 |
| jonpry | i think thats just anything in android. the others are all in the kernel | 00:20 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 00:20 |
| arrrghhh | how... vague | 00:20 |
| jonpry | for sure | 00:21 |
| jonpry | i get the feeling this is not going to get fixed :p | 00:22 |
| arrrghhh | aw c'mon guy | 00:22 |
| arrrghhh | it's so very fast :P | 00:22 |
| jonpry | is it, was that measured? | 00:23 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 00:23 |
| arrrghhh | certainly wakes quickly | 00:23 |
| arrrghhh | and when multitasking even lightly the phone can handle it | 00:23 |
| arrrghhh | instead of choking under its own filth | 00:23 |
| jonpry | run nfsd and mount /system and /data as nfs volumes? | 00:24 |
| arrrghhh | interesting | 00:25 |
| arrrghhh | i dunno | 00:25 |
| arrrghhh | the lack of hiccups is what sells it for me | 00:25 |
| arrrghhh | usually there's all these little 'blips' if you will | 00:25 |
| arrrghhh | probably when it's syncing to the SD | 00:25 |
| arrrghhh | they seem to be quite less frequent | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | other than those times when it wouldn't wake up and i was convinced it was frozen :P | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | i know it was kernel-based tho cuz the button/kbd lights were dim | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | usually those still work if the device is alive, hence the reason i thought it was dead. | 00:26 |
| jonpry | its not really fixable imho | 00:27 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 00:28 |
| arrrghhh | i had to make quite a big space for data | 00:28 |
| jonpry | one could try to maybe port the whole .30 fs subsystem | 00:28 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 00:28 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry, why not push for .35? | 00:28 |
| jonpry | i'm working on .39 | 00:28 |
| arrrghhh | alex seems to have quite a few things working for kovs | 00:28 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 00:28 |
| arrrghhh | .39 | 00:28 |
| arrrghhh | you are a madman :P | 00:29 |
| jonpry | i figure why port to old stuff | 00:29 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 00:29 |
| arrrghhh | i know what you mean | 00:30 |
| arrrghhh | but wouldn't it be easier to work off existing code...? | 00:30 |
| arrrghhh | seems like .35 makes the most sense since google and ca have a release | 00:30 |
| arrrghhh | i hear there's a .38 ca release | 00:30 |
| jonpry | i'm mostly just using the stuff from .35 | 00:31 |
| jonpry | i forward ported most of msm specific stuff even though there are mainline replacements | 00:31 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 00:31 |
| jonpry | well, its ugly | 00:31 |
| arrrghhh | well whatever .3x kernel comes out for RHOD | 00:31 |
| jonpry | and mostly it doesn't work | 00:31 |
| arrrghhh | i'll be happy to run it :D | 00:31 |
| jonpry | want me to send you a 39? | 00:32 |
| arrrghhh | it boots? | 00:32 |
| jonpry | yeah | 00:32 |
| jonpry | are you mach type 2292? | 00:32 |
| arrrghhh | what's the list of things to fix? | 00:32 |
| arrrghhh | i think so, let me doublecheck | 00:32 |
| arrrghhh | yea, 2292 | 00:32 |
| jonpry | http://prymfg.com/kernel/zimage_39 | 00:33 |
| jonpry | try that out for size | 00:33 |
| arrrghhh | nilfs or no? | 00:34 |
| jonpry | it has nilfs | 00:34 |
| arrrghhh | sweet | 00:34 |
| jonpry | doh, | 00:44 |
| jonpry | i think msm does not work with NOHZ | 00:44 |
| arrrghhh | not sure my phone likes this kernel | 00:46 |
| arrrghhh | you have a 210 right? | 00:46 |
| jonpry | yeah | 00:46 |
| jonpry | whats it do? | 00:46 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 00:46 |
| arrrghhh | blank screen | 00:46 |
| arrrghhh | with a frozen tiny line in the bottom left of the screen | 00:46 |
| arrrghhh | i got the double vibe | 00:46 |
| arrrghhh | let me boot again, see if i missed something. | 00:46 |
| arrrghhh | didn't watch the process :P | 00:46 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 00:48 |
| arrrghhh | maybe it's at the bootani screen | 00:49 |
| arrrghhh | there was flyin text | 00:49 |
| arrrghhh | font looked a little different :P | 00:49 |
| arrrghhh | other than that, relatively normal. no tux | 00:49 |
| arrrghhh | should i get a bootani? | 00:49 |
| jonpry | mine dies before that. 5 second timer | 00:49 |
| jonpry | i think it would work if it would just boot faster :p | 00:51 |
| arrrghhh | so it doesn't boot? | 00:51 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:51 |
| jonpry | it sort of does | 00:51 |
| arrrghhh | basically i see flying text, then the buffer clears | 00:52 |
| arrrghhh | and i've got what looks like a cmd prompt line at the bottom left of the screen | 00:52 |
| arrrghhh | but it's not flickers | 00:52 |
| jonpry | it loads rootfs | 00:52 |
| arrrghhh | s/flickers/flickering | 00:52 |
| arrrghhh | yea i saw that it loaded the rootfs | 00:52 |
| jonpry | yeah i have seen the line as well | 00:52 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 00:52 |
| arrrghhh | so it doesn't boot then :P | 00:53 |
| jonpry | its like this. i can hang the kernel, long before it even mounts initrd. and the display will still crap out in 5 seconds | 00:53 |
| jonpry | so i think it might be booting | 00:53 |
| jonpry | just can't tell :p | 00:53 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:54 |
| arrrghhh | i guess your definition of booting and my definition of booting are different ;) | 00:54 |
| jonpry | we all make mistakes | 00:55 |
| jonpry | j/k | 00:56 |
| arrrghhh | heh :P | 00:56 |
| D3tul3 | thanks arrrghhh modding init did the trick | 01:02 |
| arrrghhh | D3tul3, i speak the truth! :P | 01:03 |
| arrrghhh | crap i appear to be in a bootloop condition. | 01:03 |
| arrrghhh | :( | 01:03 |
| arrrghhh | i was going to stop Fing with it too on this boot | 01:03 |
| arrrghhh | figures. | 01:03 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry, thanks for the fun :D i'll ttyl | 01:40 |
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| hyc | arrrghhh: you didn't need to comment anything out of init | 01:58 |
| hyc | just add no_partitions to startup.txt | 01:58 |
| hyc | oh well | 01:59 |
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| valyk | heya all... | 07:06 |
| valyk | has anybody some good 3d lib files? | 07:07 |
| hyc | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925840 | 07:20 |
| hyc | in the megaupload pkg, the 11.29 libGLES works on TP2 | 07:22 |
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| valyk | ook | 07:30 |
| valyk | thanks hyc | 07:30 |
| valyk | i'll check them | 07:30 |
| hyc | hmm. I think most of them came from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=852937 | 07:36 |
| hyc | but i've just compared several of them using md5sum, some are exactly the same | 07:36 |
| hyc | dunno why he's trying to pass of the same binary as 3 different versions | 07:37 |
| hyc | anyway, the one that works well for me is 533448 bytes long | 07:37 |
| hyc | d0e1e0c66aa66a0dfdcb6dd913494f29 libGLES_qcom.so | 07:38 |
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| xdandroid | New XDAndroid Releases bug 129 filed... | 07:51 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=129 major, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, No Service once the phone is locked | 07:51 |
| hyc | ooo, anyone want to try running on this clone phone? http://yes-unique.com/productshow.asp?meu_id=3&pro_big_id=27&pro_mdi_id=66&pro_sml_id=117&pro_id=473 | 07:52 |
| hyc | dual-sim | 07:52 |
| hyc | would be a challenge to get the RIL to support that | 07:52 |
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| D3tul3 | oh no_partitions...that if condition didn't make much sense to me, but then i've never used "-v" for a grep parameter....now i know better | 09:02 |
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| xdandroid | arrrghhh marked bug 129 as a duplicate of bug 120. | 10:16 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=129 major, Normal, ---, developers, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, No Service once the phone is locked | 10:16 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=120 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, RHOD500 GSM Radio issues after panel collapse commit | 10:16 |
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| arrrghhh | jonpry, i think my favorite feature is broken. | 10:57 |
| arrrghhh | voice command doesn't seem to hear any audio - and wistilt2 made it switch to the rear LED when the phone is 'listening' for audio... and it doesn't do that :/ | 10:58 |
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| arrrghhh | jonpry, ping | 14:54 |
| jonpry | hi arrrghhh | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | howdy | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | so don't kill me - i've just noticed quite a bit more drain with this setup | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | and i also noticed that the LED is very rarely green, although it does sleep. | 14:55 |
| arrrghhh | it seems to wake up frequently, and stay awake... | 14:55 |
| arrrghhh | i've run SCBS before tho, didn't notice it this bad... so i have to think it's more than just that | 14:55 |
| jonpry | is that on nilfs? | 14:57 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 14:57 |
| arrrghhh | obviously running your rootfs+kernel | 14:57 |
| arrrghhh | i've also had some slow wakes | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | but the speed... has not stopped really. | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | apps open quickly, much quicker than usual. | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | haven't really had any tangible lag either. i guess i should run some benchmarks. | 15:00 |
| arrrghhh | heh, neocore is supposed to be installed but isn't. | 15:00 |
| jonpry | hmm, not sure why it wouldn't be sleeping | 15:00 |
| phh | i should test nilfs2 too one day. | 15:00 |
| jonpry | except after failed install | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | well it does sleep | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | just seems to sleep significantly less | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | example - obviously it has to wake for various things | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | usually it wakes and goes back to sleep so quickly, the orange LED is simply flashed | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | 99% of the time it's solid green | 15:02 |
| phh | that makes me think | 15:02 |
| arrrghhh | now... the orange light comes on and stays on for 5-10s | 15:02 |
| arrrghhh | and it does this frequently, so i'd say it's 50/50 sleep/wake. | 15:02 |
| phh | wistilt's patch is buggy no ? shuoldn't it blink green rather than going to orange ? | 15:02 |
| arrrghhh | i've had atrocious battery life thus far, and the phone hasn't really done much. | 15:02 |
| arrrghhh | phh, elaborate | 15:02 |
| arrrghhh | i think hyc found a bug in his patch | 15:02 |
| phh | it should blink green when waking up with screen off | 15:03 |
| phh | not orange | 15:03 |
| arrrghhh | but it was spitting out garbage in dmesg | 15:03 |
| arrrghhh | i thought blink green = wakelock | 15:03 |
| arrrghhh | solid green = sleep | 15:03 |
| arrrghhh | orange = wake | 15:03 |
| phh | if screen is off, it means it tries to suspend | 15:03 |
| phh | if it can't, it means there is a wakelock | 15:03 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 15:03 |
| arrrghhh | so it blinks green in this situation | 15:03 |
| arrrghhh | does the patch not specify that? | 15:04 |
| phh | well, when it wakes up by itself (ie not my action), it's going orange | 15:04 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 15:04 |
| arrrghhh | well | 15:04 |
| arrrghhh | same if you wake it | 15:04 |
| arrrghhh | either way, oragen. | 15:04 |
| arrrghhh | orange* | 15:04 |
| arrrghhh | it just blips orange to indicate it's waking for smth | 15:04 |
| phh | so if an app takes a wakelock before first sleep, led is blinking green, if it takes wakelock after first sleep, led is orange | 15:05 |
| phh | how logical is that ? | 15:05 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 15:05 |
| arrrghhh | i see your point | 15:05 |
| jonpry | mine doesn't wake every any seconds | 15:08 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 15:09 |
| arrrghhh | i'm gonna let it go thru a few cycles and look at the log | 15:10 |
| arrrghhh | when the phone does wake, SCBS prevents it from sleeping quickly right? | 15:10 |
| arrrghhh | does it take a reading every wake? | 15:10 |
| arrrghhh | (even ones not initiated by the user) | 15:11 |
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| arrrghhh | jonpry, i hate to say it but i think it is SCBS | 15:23 |
| arrrghhh | something else is waking it | 15:23 |
| arrrghhh | and SCBS is taking measurements everytime | 15:24 |
| arrrghhh | i'm no expert, do you want to see this dmesg? | 15:24 |
| phh | how could it be the problem ... ? | 15:24 |
| phh | what costs a lot is waking up the phone | 15:24 |
| arrrghhh | i just see it a ton in the log | 15:24 |
| arrrghhh | well it's keeping it awake | 15:24 |
| arrrghhh | the phone has to wake for stupid things like sync | 15:24 |
| arrrghhh | etc | 15:24 |
| arrrghhh | i assume that's why it's waking | 15:25 |
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| jonpry | scbs won't keep it awake because it doesn't make a lock | 15:26 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. | 15:26 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know why it would be worse than looped, but my drain has been pretty bad. | 15:27 |
| arrrghhh | and it definitely seems to stay awake moreso than usual | 15:27 |
| arrrghhh | a lot moreso | 15:27 |
| jonpry | run it on a non nilfs | 15:27 |
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| arrrghhh | jonpry, same kernel/rootfs? | 15:29 |
| arrrghhh | i guess the kernel just has *support* for NILFS, not like it's required. | 15:30 |
| arrrghhh | i'll even run the system/data loops i pulled from | 15:30 |
| arrrghhh | on the same card | 15:30 |
| arrrghhh | hopefully no other factors to skew results :P | 15:30 |
| jonpry | e2 partitions won't work on that rootfs | 15:30 |
| arrrghhh | k | 15:30 |
| arrrghhh | but looped builds | 15:30 |
| arrrghhh | assuming i comment out the detection in init | 15:30 |
| jonpry | looped should work | 15:31 |
| arrrghhh | i see a lot of this in my logcat: | 15:32 |
| arrrghhh | E/CheckinTask( 2259): Checkin failed: https://android.clients.google.com/checkin (request #0) | 15:32 |
| arrrghhh | i never setup checkin... | 15:32 |
| arrrghhh | does it do this automatically? damn google. | 15:32 |
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| arrrghhh | i do need to go thru those steps hyc laid out to disable certain apps from automatically running | 15:35 |
| arrrghhh | as i've noticed a lot of apps create services for themselves, which i could care less about. | 15:35 |
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| ThorDac | hello | 16:01 |
| arrrghhh | hi ThorDac, do you have a question? | 16:01 |
| ThorDac | have a question about xdandroid on HTC touch pro 2 | 16:02 |
| arrrghhh | so... ask | 16:02 |
| ThorDac | i got it to run starts up abut always starts in airport mode and when i turn the airport mode off it says no services | 16:02 |
| arrrghhh | CDMA or GSM? | 16:03 |
| ThorDac | cdma | 16:03 |
| arrrghhh | do you have a SIM card in? | 16:03 |
| ThorDac | yes | 16:03 |
| arrrghhh | that's your problem | 16:03 |
| arrrghhh | you either need to update your RIL | 16:03 |
| arrrghhh | which now supports switching | 16:03 |
| arrrghhh | and some other things | 16:03 |
| arrrghhh | which will be in the next build | 16:04 |
| arrrghhh | or read the dang FAQ and pull your SIM :P | 16:04 |
| ThorDac | thx | 16:04 |
| arrrghhh | np | 16:04 |
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| CptAJ | guys, I'm trying to get this thing booting on my imagion. I've been going over the thread at ppcgeeks but I can't even get to the command line screen. Haret just hangs after the "booting linux" progress bar in windows. Anyone familiar with this device have any ideas? | 19:04 |
| CptAJ | *imagio (aka whitestone) | 19:04 |
| jonpry | has it ever been done? | 19:08 |
| phh | i've never heard of any support of whitestone | 19:08 |
| CptAJ | http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/htc-imagio/104666-whitestone-android-booted.html yeah, it has | 19:10 |
| CptAJ | I'm using their startup.txt file but I can't get it past the progress bar I mentioned. It hangs there and never gets tot he command line. What could that mean? I'm not using the same kernel they were but is this an issue with haret or the kernel? | 19:11 |
| phh | both ? | 19:11 |
| phh | if you don't have same kernel then the kernel | 19:12 |
| phh | if you don't have same haret then haret. | 19:12 |
| phh | "Also it works using the topaz's mtype but not with rhodium mtype. " | 19:12 |
| phh | wait what. | 19:12 |
| phh | ok I thought whitestone was 722รจ | 19:12 |
| phh | 7227* | 19:12 |
| CptAJ | hmmm, I was hoping the particular moment of the hangup would be a hint. I'll try hunting down the kernel they used. | 19:14 |
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| phh | no, it just means haret could load the kernel and jump to it | 19:20 |
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| CptAJ | so if it COULD load the kernel and jump to it... doesn't that mean the problem is NOT haret? | 19:32 |
| phh | mmmmm yeah | 19:42 |
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| jonpry | i disagree | 19:50 |
| jonpry | bad haret can botch the job | 19:50 |
| jonpry | its possible your particular whitestone has a different panel than the others | 19:52 |
| ryannathans | how do 'they' know when it isi right to release frx07? | 19:57 |
| ryannathans | its | 19:57 |
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| hyc | ryannathans: huh? I thought we were just waiting for your permission to release it... | 20:29 |
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| toadlife | ril blowed up again | 21:47 |
| hyc | logs? | 21:48 |
| toadlife | Yeah, I'm getting em | 21:49 |
| toadlife | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25754012/debuglogs_20110509014235.tar.gz | 21:52 |
| toadlife | Call cam in. Phone didn;'t ring. Got the voicemail notification | 21:53 |
| hyc | seems like the timeout didn't work | 21:59 |
| toadlife | very frustrating. Is there anything else I could do on my end besides dumping logs? | 22:03 |
| hyc | not that i can think of | 22:05 |
| hyc | need to find out why the timeout doesn't work | 22:05 |
| hyc | you've received calls normally before? | 22:15 |
| hyc | oh duh | 22:20 |
| hyc | the timeout I added didn't affect this function | 22:20 |
| hyc | ok new test ril | 22:23 |
| hyc | http://highlandsun.com/hyc/ril2-test.zip | 22:23 |
| hyc | toadlife: this time for sure.... | 22:23 |
| hyc | 3 second timeout on the responses | 22:23 |
| hyc | and now I have to leave, ttyl | 22:24 |
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| toadlife | Yes. (Sorry, I'm wokring on something right now) | 22:39 |
| toadlife | Kewl. I'll try it out and let you know | 22:40 |
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| D3tul3 | hi jonpry, is there a version of your nilfs2 kernel that implements the garbage collector daemon...i guess arrrg ran into the same memory issues that I am seeing | 23:18 |
| jonpry | the gc is not in the kernel. i haven't been able to build a binary that will run on android | 23:26 |
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| D3tul3 | thanks.... | 23:36 |
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