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valyk | hello | 06:31 |
valyk | is anyone here available? | 06:31 |
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ryannathans | what's taking us so long to move to .35 or .37? | 08:37 |
helicopter88 | it isn't so easy to port drivers from .27 to .35.. | 08:37 |
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ryannathans | time to go image my hard drive | 10:47 |
ryannathans | -.- | 10:47 |
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lolmeister | hey | 12:41 |
lolmeister | i finally got my xd android to boot in my HTC fuze | 12:41 |
lolmeister | everything works fine except the button configurations are a bit off and the touchscreen doesnt work | 12:42 |
arrrghhh | so recalib | 12:43 |
arrrghhh | not sure what you mean bout the button config being off | 12:43 |
lolmeister | like the center button isnt like enter like it is on | 12:43 |
lolmeister | windows | 12:43 |
arrrghhh | yea | 12:43 |
arrrghhh | it's android | 12:43 |
arrrghhh | it's not winmo | 12:43 |
lolmeister | i can live with that | 12:43 |
arrrghhh | good | 12:43 |
arrrghhh | we needed to juggle the buttons around a little | 12:43 |
lolmeister | but the android didnt go trough the first launch | 12:44 |
lolmeister | wizard thing | 12:44 |
lolmeister | and didnt ask for calibration | 12:44 |
lolmeister | wheres the calib menu btw | 12:44 |
arrrghhh | did you read the first post? | 12:44 |
arrrghhh | i instruct you to either a) download the calib file | 12:44 |
arrrghhh | or b) create your own calib | 12:44 |
lolmeister | ow cuz i just used the instalation guide on this page | 12:45 |
lolmeister | so u say that in the forum theres a calib file | 12:45 |
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arrrghhh | you say 'this page' | 12:45 |
lolmeister | yeah like the wiki itself | 12:46 |
lolmeister | non forum | 12:46 |
arrrghhh | ok... | 12:46 |
arrrghhh | i guess you can't figure out how to get to the forums | 12:47 |
arrrghhh | so i'll hand feed you this link | 12:47 |
arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951981 | 12:47 |
arrrghhh | read the first few posts in that thread | 12:47 |
lolmeister | ou i see you wrote it lol ok thanks man | 12:47 |
lolmeister | sorry for the shamer face | 12:48 |
arrrghhh | i wrote the FAQ on the wiki too | 12:48 |
arrrghhh | well, most of it. | 12:48 |
arrrghhh | it is a wiki after all | 12:48 |
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ryannathans | lol, gotta love people like that | 13:07 |
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umoner | hi everyone.good night | 13:40 |
arrrghhh | hi goodnight? | 13:40 |
helicopter88 | hi | 13:41 |
helicopter88 | and goodnight.. | 13:41 |
arrrghhh | lol | 13:41 |
umoner | i want to install android on my O2 pm10a | 13:41 |
umoner | but | 13:41 |
umoner | i cant extract system.ext2 | 13:42 |
umoner | file | 13:42 |
umoner | how i can | 13:42 |
arrrghhh | What phone? | 13:42 |
helicopter88 | mount -o loop system.ext2 /mountpoind under ubuntu | 13:42 |
arrrghhh | RAPH, RHOD ? | 13:42 |
umoner | i try mount command | 13:43 |
umoner | mounted | 13:43 |
helicopter88 | btw as arrrghhh said,what phone do you have? | 13:43 |
umoner | pocket pc O2 pm10a magician | 13:43 |
arrrghhh | ohgod | 13:43 |
arrrghhh | that won't run Android | 13:43 |
arrrghhh | 64mb of SDRAM? | 13:44 |
arrrghhh | no. no android. | 13:44 |
umoner | ok. | 13:45 |
umoner | :( | 13:45 |
arrrghhh | WinMo 2003? | 13:45 |
arrrghhh | that's ooooold | 13:45 |
umoner | no | 13:45 |
arrrghhh | i thought my RHOD was old :P | 13:45 |
umoner | i install wm6.5 | 13:45 |
arrrghhh | that must be awful. | 13:45 |
arrrghhh | umoner, but it shipped with 2003 | 13:45 |
arrrghhh | Operating system: Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition | 13:45 |
umoner | no now my machine wm6.5 | 13:46 |
arrrghhh | i'm sure 6.5 isn't official | 13:46 |
umoner | true | 13:46 |
umoner | not official | 13:46 |
arrrghhh | that's my point | 13:46 |
arrrghhh | what did it ship with from the factory... | 13:46 |
arrrghhh | that's an old device :P | 13:46 |
phh | wm6.5 with 64MB ram ? | 13:46 |
phh | wow | 13:46 |
arrrghhh | phh, must be painful | 13:46 |
arrrghhh | and titanium | 13:46 |
arrrghhh | no way he uses sense | 13:46 |
helicopter88 | a diamond can't handle wm6.5.. | 13:46 |
phh | uh ? | 13:47 |
phh | i've wm6.5 on my diamond | 13:47 |
helicopter88 | i have it too,but it's slower than 6.1 | 13:47 |
umoner | sorry sometimes i cant understand.my english not perfect | 13:47 |
helicopter88 | and with sense it gives really low ram | 13:47 |
phh | perfectly smooth here ... | 13:47 |
umoner | wm6.5 | 13:47 |
umoner | reallly | 13:47 |
umoner | good | 13:47 |
phh | i don't remember if it uses sense | 13:47 |
umoner | working | 13:47 |
umoner | my phone | 13:47 |
umoner | but i want to install android | 13:48 |
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umoner | i have to go.good night everyone | 13:48 |
helicopter88 | goodnight | 13:49 |
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arrrghhh | heh | 13:49 |
arrrghhh | android on that phone | 13:49 |
arrrghhh | weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee | 13:49 |
arrrghhh | maybe donut | 13:49 |
arrrghhh | but i don't think anyone has ported anything with that proc arch lolol | 13:49 |
arrrghhh | Processor: Intel(R) XScale "Bulverde" PXA272 416 MHz CPU | 13:49 |
helicopter88 | i saw a video of a blue angel(i think) running android | 13:49 |
helicopter88 | it was one of the first phone in legacy forums.. | 13:50 |
toadlife | My coworker was running Android on his tilt before he got a G2. It ran pretty well considering the hardware, but that's probably the oldest phone you would want to run Android on. | 13:57 |
phh | the hardware of the tilt is G1's hardware | 13:58 |
phh | well better than G1 actually | 13:58 |
toadlife | The tilt had a 400 mhz processor and 128mb of RAM | 13:59 |
toadlife | And that 400mhz processor was a DOG | 14:00 |
toadlife | The 200mhz processor on my Wing could keep up with the tilts CPU on many things | 14:00 |
toadlife | The tilt did NOT have the same specs as the G1 | 14:01 |
toadlife | You must be thinking of the tilt2 | 14:02 |
phh | wait. | 14:02 |
phh | I thouoght tilt is touch pro ? | 14:02 |
toadlife | This is the tilt: http://www.htc.com/us/support/tilt-att/ | 14:02 |
phh | ok so att's touch pro isn't tilt | 14:03 |
toadlife | At&T's touch pro 2 is the tilt2 | 14:04 |
phh | touch pro | 14:04 |
phh | not touch pro2 | 14:04 |
phh | ah fuze | 14:04 |
toadlife | The original 'tilt' was the 8925, aka the HTC Kaiser, aka the TyTN II, | 14:05 |
toadlife | Sorry. Not familiar with At&t's other phones | 14:05 |
toadlife | Yeah, it can be cunfusing when every phone has 16 different names | 14:05 |
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arrrghhh | no joke | 14:14 |
arrrghhh | you'd think the original tilt = touch pro | 14:14 |
arrrghhh | but no. | 14:14 |
arrrghhh | it didn't exactly tilt tho :P | 14:14 |
arrrghhh | did the kaiser? | 14:15 |
toadlife | Yes. The Kaiser has the tilting KB | 14:15 |
toadlife | One of my fav features of the TP2 | 14:16 |
arrrghhh | indeed | 14:16 |
phh | the TP2 just rocks anyway. | 14:16 |
toadlife | waiting for a android phone to come out with a tilting kb | 14:16 |
arrrghhh | if only htc refreshed the internals. | 14:16 |
toadlife | yeah | 14:16 |
arrrghhh | toadlife, freakin htc pro7 would've made a great device | 14:16 |
phh | TP2 + Tegra2 would be <3 | 14:16 |
arrrghhh | if it had a fucking SD card slot. | 14:16 |
phh | I could accept it with just a msm8260. | 14:16 |
arrrghhh | i guess the specs aren't that great, but hey. | 14:17 |
jonpry | phh you don't even run scbs | 14:19 |
phh | jonpry: i don't care of battery level ? :p | 14:20 |
phh | but yeah i need to update my system | 14:20 |
jonpry | that is the best feature of tp2 | 14:20 |
phh | -_-' | 14:20 |
arrrghhh | heh | 14:21 |
phh | i wanted to update, but then i browsed the forum and it was such a mess ... | 14:21 |
jonpry | frx06? | 14:21 |
arrrghhh | lol | 14:22 |
arrrghhh | phh, we try | 14:22 |
jonpry | just go to tiad8.com | 14:25 |
toadlife | fuggin shit. It takes 5 minutes for an email sent from our exchange server to get out. | 14:26 |
arrrghhh | jonpry, lmao | 14:26 |
phh | ..... | 14:26 |
arrrghhh | talk about a mess... | 14:26 |
phh | why are there per-phone forums .... ? | 14:26 |
arrrghhh | phh, it's not a per-phone forum | 14:26 |
arrrghhh | his dumbass got perma-banned from xda-devs and ppcg | 14:26 |
jonpry | BEST BILD EVRE! | 14:27 |
arrrghhh | so... he claimed he was quitting | 14:27 |
arrrghhh | and then started releasing builds on twitter | 14:27 |
phh | which one ? there are 9 | 14:27 |
arrrghhh | and now someone gave him a website. | 14:27 |
phh | and it's totally stupid to do separations by phones seriously | 14:27 |
jonpry | ppcg is going to move certain phones into a deprecated folder. like they get to decide | 14:28 |
phh | I mean for builds* | 14:28 |
phh | unless they succeeded into doing phone-specific releases | 14:28 |
phh | in which case i'd hate them | 14:28 |
arrrghhh | lol | 14:28 |
jonpry | just download jonpry's rhod only zimage and rootfs. get frx06 system.img and everything is cool | 14:29 |
phh | you have all changes by wistilt ? | 14:29 |
jonpry | no | 14:29 |
phh | and hyc | 14:29 |
jonpry | probably his kernel and modules, my rootfs | 14:29 |
arrrghhh | lol | 14:29 |
phh | now tell me it's simple | 14:30 |
jonpry | it is | 14:30 |
arrrghhh | phh, there's a ton of testing stuff right now | 14:30 |
jonpry | its like 4 files | 14:30 |
phh | arrrghhh: i know | 14:30 |
arrrghhh | stine is working to get it all committed... but there's a lot. | 14:30 |
arrrghhh | emwe is doin a great job on the kernel commitsw | 14:30 |
phh | jonpry: I mean, how are normal users supposed to know that ? | 14:30 |
jonpry | there are no normal users | 14:30 |
arrrghhh | lol | 14:31 |
arrrghhh | "normal" users shouldn't be running test code. | 14:31 |
jonpry | "normal" users should be paying the big bucks | 14:31 |
jonpry | arrrghhh's installation service | 14:31 |
arrrghhh | heh | 14:32 |
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phh | jonpry: and you've got hyc's ril ? | 14:37 |
jonpry | no | 14:37 |
arrrghhh | his RIL is magic | 14:37 |
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jonpry | nilfs ftw | 14:39 |
arrrghhh | heh | 14:39 |
arrrghhh | assuming i can prevent it from filling the partition :P | 14:40 |
jonpry | compile nilfs util on rhobuntu | 14:40 |
phh | jonpry: speaking of nilfs2, you thought about it before I asked you to try it ? | 14:40 |
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jonpry | you told me about it on your emmc device, and i have kind of been planning to try it since then | 14:41 |
phh | ok | 14:41 |
phh | just in case that everyone starts using nilfs2, to know that's because of me ;) | 14:42 |
arrrghhh | lol | 14:42 |
arrrghhh | based on your suggestion, yes. | 14:42 |
arrrghhh | jonpry, i've never used rhobuntu | 14:48 |
arrrghhh | also, what are you doing? isn't your partition filling at an alarming rate? | 14:48 |
arrrghhh | mine filled so fast, i wasn't able to really *do* anything. | 14:48 |
arrrghhh | i guess nilfs makes everything faster... :P | 14:49 |
phh | so, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951962 system.ext2 + http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885550's kernel/initramfs + jonpry's rootfs I can't find +http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1009112 ril | 14:49 |
phh | right ? | 14:49 |
jonpry | arrrghhh, i only had to copy once, i think your attempts at erasing it haven't worked | 14:50 |
arrrghhh | phh, yes. additionally, i'd go for ril2 (assuming jonpry's rootfs supports it) | 14:50 |
jonpry | http://prymfg.com/kernel/rootfs.img | 14:50 |
jonpry | isn't the new ril packed in the rootfs? | 14:51 |
arrrghhh | i think so | 14:51 |
arrrghhh | i don't know if the rootfs has the newest RIL tho | 14:51 |
phh | arrrghhh: and nilfs2 doesn't fill fast at all here | 14:52 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 14:52 |
phh | I mean I can use my laptop for a week before needing a garbage collector | 14:52 |
arrrghhh | what have i done wrong... | 14:52 |
phh | (but that's with like 13GB) | 14:52 |
arrrghhh | even on a fresh format, the disk size free is a lot smaller that avail | 14:52 |
phh | oO | 14:52 |
arrrghhh | so i never have the full amount avail... | 14:52 |
phh | that's not normal | 14:53 |
arrrghhh | i setup the partitons as primary thru fdisk | 14:53 |
arrrghhh | and formatted using mkfs -t nilfs2 | 14:53 |
arrrghhh | what did i do wrong? :P | 14:53 |
jonpry | try to zero it | 14:53 |
arrrghhh | with dd? | 14:53 |
jonpry | your dmesg is funky, like its using a backup nilfs2 superblock | 14:54 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 14:54 |
phh | jonpry: huhu | 14:54 |
jonpry | dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdbp3 | 14:54 |
arrrghhh | yea | 14:54 |
arrrghhh | ok | 14:54 |
arrrghhh | let me reboot, in android now. | 14:54 |
arrrghhh | also jonpry - i thought they were moving the RIL to /system/lib? | 14:55 |
arrrghhh | in froyo it's in /lib/froyo, but i think they want to move igt | 14:55 |
arrrghhh | it* | 14:55 |
jonpry | i dunno what they are doing | 14:57 |
arrrghhh | heh | 14:57 |
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arrrghhh | i don't really either, i try to absorb as much as possible. | 14:58 |
jonpry | i think nilfs2 kind of assumes you have excessively large disks. like it makes performance out of free space | 14:58 |
arrrghhh | jonpry, if that's the case, perhaps it's not so good on small SD's... | 14:58 |
arrrghhh | unless i carve up the full 8gb card :P | 14:58 |
jonpry | 8gb is fine :p | 14:59 |
arrrghhh | yea but i only reserved 600mb between sys & data :P | 14:59 |
arrrghhh | alrighty. dd'ing sys and data parts. we'll see what they look like when it's done. | 14:59 |
toadlife | dam ril blew up on me again. | 14:59 |
arrrghhh | toadlife, what are you doing?!? | 15:00 |
arrrghhh | i haven't had the RIL 'blow up' on me in a looong time. | 15:00 |
toadlife | Sitting in my office working | 15:00 |
arrrghhh | well that's your problem | 15:00 |
arrrghhh | it's Saturday | 15:00 |
toadlife | Same thing happens every time | 15:00 |
jonpry | anyone try sreadahead on android? | 15:00 |
toadlife | Phone stop answering incoming calls. ONe text message comes in and any attempt to make a call or toggle radio fails after that | 15:00 |
arrrghhh | toadlife, on Froyo? | 15:01 |
toadlife | yep | 15:01 |
toadlife | frx06, latest rootfs, latest hyc ril | 15:01 |
arrrghhh | never had that | 15:01 |
toadlife | Must be a t-mobile thing | 15:01 |
arrrghhh | lol hyc has the same phone/carrier | 15:01 |
toadlife | He's in LA area though. The offices I work in have weak signals | 15:02 |
toadlife | It allways happens when I have a weak signal | 15:02 |
toadlife | Never enver happens in WinMo. :\ | 15:03 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 15:03 |
arrrghhh | supposedly he fixed the weak signal issues | 15:03 |
arrrghhh | i drove thru the mtns the other day in android, didn't have any radio issues | 15:03 |
arrrghhh | just the system blowing up, which is normal :P | 15:04 |
toadlife | He certainly thinks he fixed them all. ;P | 15:04 |
arrrghhh | heh | 15:04 |
arrrghhh | logs | 15:04 |
arrrghhh | logs will save us all | 15:04 |
toadlife | I'll post logs laters. I'm wrapping up work here | 15:04 |
arrrghhh | k | 15:04 |
arrrghhh | /dev/sdb4 328M 264M 0 100% /media/card_data | 15:05 |
arrrghhh | wtf | 15:05 |
phh | oO | 15:05 |
arrrghhh | gonna try to dd it now as well | 15:06 |
arrrghhh | dd'ing the sys partition didn't seem to work so well. | 15:06 |
arrrghhh | i just don't get how size = 328M, used = 264M and avail = 0. i'm assuming that's part of it's stashing mechanism? | 15:07 |
arrrghhh | heh. nilfs is a hoarder | 15:07 |
phh | no | 15:08 |
phh | the "used" infos it gives | 15:08 |
phh | is the actually used | 15:08 |
phh | full log i mean | 15:08 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 15:08 |
arrrghhh | so there is something wrong. | 15:08 |
arrrghhh | was my procedure flawed? | 15:08 |
arrrghhh | fdisk -> primary parts -> mkfs -t nilfs2 | 15:08 |
phh | perhaps like jonpry said it's meant only for big parts | 15:09 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 15:09 |
jonpry | my system is like 300mb | 15:09 |
arrrghhh | sad. | 15:09 |
arrrghhh | jonpry, same. | 15:09 |
jonpry | /dev/sdb3 344060 114684 163840 42% /mnt | 15:10 |
jonpry | and it has the image on it | 15:10 |
arrrghhh | /dev/sdb4 328M 184M 80M 70% /media/card_data | 15:11 |
arrrghhh | that just doesn't add up. | 15:11 |
jonpry | /dev/sdb4 344060 180220 98304 65% /mnt | 15:11 |
arrrghhh | ext2 is fine | 15:12 |
arrrghhh | perhaps the version of nilfs2-tools from the repo's is crap? | 15:12 |
jonpry | so we are just talking about how used+avail < total? | 15:12 |
arrrghhh | well that and my partitions mysteriously filling | 15:13 |
arrrghhh | well i guess sys didn't... i'd assume it didn't change tho. | 15:13 |
jonpry | all filesystem are inefficient | 15:13 |
jonpry | they just don't report it | 15:13 |
arrrghhh | but this one seems exceptionally inefficient in that sense | 15:13 |
jonpry | a little | 15:14 |
arrrghhh | here, an example. | 15:14 |
jonpry | figure 120mb wasted cost what, like $.40? | 15:14 |
arrrghhh | /dev/sdb3 297M 2.1M 279M 1% /media/card_system | 15:14 |
arrrghhh | that's formatted ext2 | 15:14 |
phh | arrrghhh: on same partition ? | 15:14 |
arrrghhh | /dev/sdb3 304M 16M 224M 7% /media/card_system | 15:14 |
phh | that means 50MB lost | 15:14 |
arrrghhh | that's on nilfs2 | 15:14 |
arrrghhh | i didn't change a think with fdisk | 15:15 |
arrrghhh | just reformatted using mkfs 2x. | 15:15 |
jonpry | i think its fine :p | 15:16 |
arrrghhh | ok | 15:16 |
arrrghhh | why is it filling then? :P | 15:16 |
jonpry | just need cleanerd | 15:16 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 15:16 |
arrrghhh | you said you didn't tho? | 15:16 |
arrrghhh | i mean i didn't do a damned thing on the phone. i didn't have one app installed, and /data filled itself. | 15:16 |
jonpry | yeah, but i don't use my phone much .logcat will be filling it up | 15:16 |
arrrghhh | the phone sat on the charger overnight. | 15:17 |
jonpry | i got about 100MB in say 4 hours | 15:17 |
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arrrghhh | jonpry, Oo. 300mb will fill pretty quick then | 15:23 |
jonpry | nilfs cleaner d :p | 15:23 |
jonpry | maybe somebody has an android.mk for it | 15:23 |
arrrghhh | i need a binary son :P | 15:23 |
arrrghhh | perhaps i should just carve up the 8gb card | 15:24 |
arrrghhh | see how it goes | 15:24 |
jonpry | theres a bunch of shit it market | 15:24 |
arrrghhh | maybe it'll take a couple of days to fill :P | 15:24 |
jonpry | i don't know what it does | 15:24 |
arrrghhh | for nilfsa? | 15:24 |
arrrghhh | er | 15:24 |
arrrghhh | nilfs | 15:25 |
jonpry | yeah | 15:25 |
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arrrghhh | hrm | 15:26 |
arrrghhh | i found one | 15:26 |
arrrghhh | https://market.android.com/details?id=com.sephiron.NilfsCleanerdService&feature=search_result | 15:27 |
jonpry | yeah like that | 15:28 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 15:28 |
arrrghhh | i wonder if it'll be up long enough for me to install it :P | 15:28 |
jonpry | i would just unzip the apk and look for a binary | 15:29 |
jonpry | thats a very specific package and it will probably bork something | 15:29 |
arrrghhh | heh | 15:30 |
jonpry | if its not armv7 | 15:30 |
arrrghhh | ok | 15:33 |
arrrghhh | so 56M used on data and 112M used on system after tar'ing | 15:33 |
arrrghhh | which supposedly i have 128M free on sys, and 208M free on data... | 15:34 |
arrrghhh | should be plenty. | 15:34 |
arrrghhh | now let's see what happens when i boot :P | 15:35 |
phh | oh fuck. SGS guys already tried nilfs2 | 15:35 |
arrrghhh | yea. did it go poorly? | 15:35 |
arrrghhh | ----> why the 'oh fuck'? | 15:35 |
phh | they couldn't take the idea from me :p | 15:35 |
jonpry | pride | 15:35 |
arrrghhh | lol | 15:35 |
arrrghhh | so you stole the idea from samsung folks? | 15:36 |
arrrghhh | for shame. | 15:36 |
arrrghhh | bwhahahaha | 15:36 |
jonpry | this is a dependency nightmare. we are going to need a whole ubuntu system to run it | 15:36 |
phh | or build a static binary -_-' | 15:36 |
arrrghhh | trying to compile on rhobuntu? | 15:36 |
arrrghhh | that would be best. | 15:36 |
jonpry | i'm too lazy | 15:36 |
jonpry | going to try android build system | 15:36 |
phh | ouch | 15:37 |
jonpry | but its not going to work | 15:37 |
arrrghhh | ok so it's fast now... | 15:37 |
arrrghhh | let's see | 15:37 |
arrrghhh | looks like i'm down to 144M free on data already LOL | 15:38 |
arrrghhh | 136... | 15:38 |
arrrghhh | this is insane. | 15:38 |
phh | weird | 15:39 |
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arrrghhh | i'm scared to touch anything lol | 15:39 |
arrrghhh | setting up a sync acct.. | 15:39 |
phh | adb logcat is flooding or ? | 15:39 |
arrrghhh | not more than usual i'd say | 15:40 |
arrrghhh | down to 104M | 15:40 |
arrrghhh | heh | 15:41 |
arrrghhh | i can see how the disk filled | 15:41 |
arrrghhh | 96M | 15:41 |
jonpry | lol | 15:41 |
phh | "i flashed my SGS yesterday with NILFS2 and it runs so fast, no Lag, nothing it is really smooth due to the fact that NILFS2 works way better with small files as ext4. " | 15:41 |
phh | okay | 15:41 |
jonpry | what provides -luuid ? | 15:41 |
phh | jonpry: blkid i think | 15:41 |
phh | or was it e2progs ? mmmm | 15:42 |
arrrghhh | i have to say, everything is fast. | 15:42 |
arrrghhh | it's even filling the disk at an alarmingly fast rate :P | 15:42 |
phh | . | 15:42 |
arrrghhh | i guess i did want everything to be fast, i got what i wanted :D | 15:42 |
arrrghhh | down to 72M -_- | 15:43 |
phh | i hope you'll do us a nice 3 2 1 0 countdown :p | 15:43 |
phh | but seriously what are you running ? | 15:44 |
arrrghhh | i setup a sync acct | 15:44 |
arrrghhh | and i was installing titanium backup evidently | 15:44 |
arrrghhh | i didn't start that off, how the hell did that persist. | 15:44 |
arrrghhh | just got a reboot to winmo tho :/ | 15:44 |
arrrghhh | the sync appeared to have finished | 15:45 |
arrrghhh | and it was in the process of installing tb... when i got the reset. sad. | 15:45 |
phh | the problem is that if it grows that fast | 15:45 |
arrrghhh | let's see what the disk looks like | 15:45 |
phh | cleanerd won't be able to do anything | 15:45 |
phh | since it erases change only if >1hour old | 15:45 |
phh | s | 15:45 |
phh | anyway, if you have an app that writes *that* fast to mmc, you have a big problem | 15:46 |
phh | like your card won't live more long | 15:46 |
arrrghhh | yea, it's called 'android' | 15:46 |
arrrghhh | it's slaughtering SD cards everywhere. | 15:46 |
arrrghhh | phh, i didn't even get the chance to have any apps installed | 15:48 |
arrrghhh | it was a 'clean' data.img, nothing on it. | 15:48 |
phh | jonpry: you started with empty data.img too ? | 15:48 |
jonpry | yeah | 15:49 |
arrrghhh | i mean i tar'd a loop'd data.img to the partition | 15:50 |
arrrghhh | but it was a previously unused data.img. | 15:50 |
arrrghhh | so no apps were installed, other than what's in /system/app | 15:50 |
arrrghhh | eh, boring. it ended up with 72M free. | 15:51 |
phh | lol | 15:52 |
arrrghhh | i'll spin the wheel again tho | 15:52 |
arrrghhh | is there some way i can see what's filling it? | 15:53 |
arrrghhh | god that sounded dumb. | 15:53 |
phh | good question | 15:54 |
arrrghhh | weeeee down to 64mb after boot | 15:56 |
arrrghhh | as expected, system isn't changing. | 15:56 |
arrrghhh | can i just make data RO? | 15:56 |
arrrghhh | :P | 15:56 |
arrrghhh | heh 48M | 15:58 |
arrrghhh | startin to break a sweat | 15:58 |
arrrghhh | even the gmail client is fast | 15:58 |
arrrghhh | this is amazing. | 15:58 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 16:00 |
arrrghhh | /data is only 46.1M | 16:01 |
arrrghhh | when i du'd it | 16:01 |
arrrghhh | so... it's gotta be this magical logging system. how the F is it consuming 200+M tho? | 16:01 |
arrrghhh | hrm. well i guess there's more than just /data on p4. | 16:01 |
arrrghhh | wow. reboot within Android... | 16:03 |
arrrghhh | came back in a pretty good state tho | 16:05 |
arrrghhh | hey, crash recovery is fast :P | 16:05 |
arrrghhh | down to 32M, getting a space warning. | 16:06 |
arrrghhh | Internal phone storage agrees | 16:06 |
jonpry | just trying to link this thing | 16:10 |
jonpry | bin/arm-none-linux-gnueabi-ld: warning: cannot find entry symbol _start ? | 16:10 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 16:12 |
Entropy512 | hmm, pop the SD, mount it RO on a Linux box, and do a directory tree analysis? | 16:13 |
Entropy512 | sounds like nilfs has... issues | 16:13 |
Entropy512 | man I have so much catching up to do | 16:13 |
Entropy512 | things have been really hectic the past 2 weeks on xdandroid-dev | 16:13 |
arrrghhh | i know | 16:13 |
arrrghhh | madness | 16:13 |
Entropy512 | sounds like rapid create/delete ops will kill nilfs unless you drop the protection period down | 16:17 |
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toadlife | Arrrghhh - ping | 16:19 |
toadlife | Logs http://db.tt/QyjYxqy | 16:20 |
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arrrghhh | i just see a ton of SMS messages, and then the radio disconnects. | 16:24 |
arrrghhh | hyc, you'll probably want to take a look at those loggers. | 16:24 |
arrrghhh | so have the HD2 folk used nilfs? | 16:37 |
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arrrghhh | phh, i think the problem is definitely free space | 17:13 |
arrrghhh | it seems for every little bit that is written, 8 bits get created lol | 17:14 |
arrrghhh | so every little action that creates something on p4, it snapshots or logs like crazy and fills the disk very quickly... | 17:14 |
arrrghhh | perhaps I need to give it 4gb :P | 17:14 |
arrrghhh | see how long i can go | 17:14 |
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arrrghhh | alrighty... 5.2gb data partition. 4.9 avail, let's see if this even works :D | 17:43 |
arrrghhh | whoops. probably need to copy the data back to the vfat partition too... heh | 17:46 |
arrrghhh | ok... now i just feel retarded. i formatted the partition vfat, but it still shows up as "Linux" as the system under fdisk -l... | 17:59 |
arrrghhh | what have i don? | 17:59 |
arrrghhh | done | 17:59 |
arrrghhh | or not done. | 17:59 |
arrrghhh | mkfs -t vfat /dev/sdb1 <--- wouldn't that do it? | 18:00 |
arrrghhh | bleh | 18:04 |
hyc | change type in partition table | 18:09 |
arrrghhh | yea | 18:09 |
arrrghhh | i realized that... thx | 18:09 |
arrrghhh | i went into #ubuntu to get help, and i figured it out on my own anyways. | 18:09 |
arrrghhh | d'oh. | 18:09 |
arrrghhh | i didn't realize it would let me format vfat and keep it as a FS type of linux :P | 18:10 |
arrrghhh | hyc, nilfs is fun. it does everything very quickly... | 18:11 |
arrrghhh | including fill up the disk... | 18:11 |
NeoMatrixJR | hey arrrghhh, are you still having discharge on USB issues too? | 18:12 |
arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, on the newest kernels yea | 18:12 |
arrrghhh | anything after that inital USB tether patch | 18:12 |
NeoMatrixJR | ok, me too. | 18:12 |
arrrghhh | w00t? | 18:12 |
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arrrghhh | alrighty, bootin time | 18:16 |
arrrghhh | alrighty. p4 has 4.6gb free | 18:21 |
arrrghhh | now let's see how long i can go... :D | 18:21 |
arrrghhh | hrm. installing apps seems to be bad juju | 18:27 |
rpierce99 | probably a lot of temp stuff created for installation, and with it not removing the temps for an hour, probably bad | 18:28 |
arrrghhh | well this happened last time | 18:28 |
arrrghhh | it dled titanium backup, and when it tried to install -> reset to WinMo | 18:28 |
arrrghhh | tryin again... | 18:32 |
arrrghhh | damnit. as soon as it gets to the 'installing' state, it resets to winmo :/ | 18:35 |
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arrrghhh | jonpry, have you installed any apps thru the market? | 18:35 |
arrrghhh | whew. gonna attempt to get logs of this. | 18:43 |
hyc | nilfs clearly not ready for primetime... | 18:50 |
arrrghhh | no | 18:51 |
arrrghhh | but i'd like to help it | 18:51 |
arrrghhh | as it is fast | 18:51 |
hyc | sure... but it's too space intensive | 18:52 |
arrrghhh | hey i've got 4.4gb free still :P | 18:52 |
arrrghhh | aw dmesg is empty. | 18:53 |
arrrghhh | 05-07 16:53:01.350 D/installd( 1364): DexInv: --- BEGIN '/data/app/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup-1.apk' | 18:53 |
arrrghhh | last entry in logcat | 18:53 |
arrrghhh | :/ | 18:53 |
arrrghhh | without dmesg, kinda useless. | 18:54 |
arrrghhh | hyc, how do you run a continuous dmesg? just dmesg &? | 18:55 |
hyc | no | 18:55 |
hyc | cat /proc/kmsg | 18:55 |
arrrghhh | i just tried adb shell dmesg & > dmsg.txt it didn't work out | 18:55 |
arrrghhh | o right | 18:55 |
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arrrghhh | alrighty | 18:55 |
hyc | toadlife: seems like the ril is stuck waiting for a command reply that is never coming | 18:57 |
hyc | also see a modem response @HTCDIS: 0066 that I've never seen before | 18:58 |
arrrghhh | ah. jonpry, got some great logs for ya | 19:03 |
jonpry | hi | 19:03 |
arrrghhh | jonpry, http://pastebin.com/dFQ2GVx7 <--- dmesg | 19:03 |
jonpry | i'm getting some stupid errors trying to cross compile it | 19:04 |
jonpry | somebody should setup a rhobuntu with ssh :p | 19:04 |
arrrghhh | http://pastebin.com/G6r2qBdN | 19:05 |
arrrghhh | logcat | 19:05 |
arrrghhh | line 2050 is where the juicy stuff on dmesg happens. | 19:05 |
arrrghhh | er 2049 i guess :P | 19:06 |
jonpry | wtf is that? | 19:06 |
arrrghhh | every time it starts installing an app from the Market | 19:06 |
arrrghhh | or any app perhaps, i guess i should try adb install | 19:06 |
arrrghhh | it reboots to winmo.. | 19:06 |
jonpry | what if you start writing random files to /system or /data? | 19:08 |
arrrghhh | eh? | 19:08 |
jonpry | like dd if=/dev/urandom of=/data/foo bs=1m count=1 | 19:08 |
arrrghhh | lol ok | 19:09 |
hyc | toadlife is gone huh. have a ril to test. http://highlandsun.com/hyc/ril2-test.zip | 19:10 |
hyc | this one has a 10 second timeout for commands, so if the modem doesn't reply, it won't hang forever waiting | 19:10 |
arrrghhh | yea. | 19:10 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 19:10 |
arrrghhh | he seems to think shotty service is still the culprit | 19:11 |
hyc | in his last log the modem seemed to just ignore s few commands | 19:11 |
arrrghhh | weird | 19:11 |
hyc | but it was still alive, it still received an SMS | 19:11 |
arrrghhh | yea. i'm assuming you read his description of what happened? | 19:11 |
hyc | yeah | 19:11 |
arrrghhh | i figgured :P | 19:11 |
hyc | so with this patch, it ought to come back. maybe 10 seconds is too slow tho, dunno | 19:12 |
hyc | most commands get a reply within 10msec | 19:12 |
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hyc | not sure why the modem would ever need more than 1sec | 19:12 |
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arrrghhh | damnit. wow | 19:12 |
arrrghhh | :P | 19:12 |
hyc | oh hell | 19:13 |
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hyc | I just had a SoD | 19:13 |
arrrghhh | jonpry, dd: invalid number '1m'? | 19:13 |
arrrghhh | hyc, heh | 19:14 |
hyc | and then I plugged in the USB cable and it rebooted | 19:14 |
jonpry | arrrghhh, yeah busybox dd has funky options | 19:14 |
arrrghhh | oh | 19:14 |
arrrghhh | 1M | 19:14 |
arrrghhh | well the command 'worked' | 19:14 |
arrrghhh | i didn't get a reboot | 19:14 |
jonpry | i honestly don't understand the crash | 19:17 |
hyc | hmm. and now my charge is dropping 2%/second | 19:17 |
jonpry | looks like stack is fine, but sync_page + 0 is trying to jump to some non kernel address? | 19:17 |
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toadlife | hyc: Downloading that ril now | 19:24 |
arrrghhh | jonpry, same thing happened on adb install... | 19:24 |
arrrghhh | it copied the apk over, then hung... and reboot. | 19:24 |
jonpry | maybe mmap doesn't work | 19:25 |
arrrghhh | anything you want me to try? | 19:26 |
arrrghhh | did you try installing any apps? :P | 19:26 |
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jonpry | i have a cleanerd | 19:38 |
arrrghhh | hey i've still got 4.4gb free | 19:39 |
arrrghhh | although i haven't been able to do anything, i was going to install tb and restore - see what happens :P | 19:39 |
jonpry | i'll try to install something in a minute | 19:39 |
arrrghhh | k | 19:39 |
arrrghhh | watch the fun :P | 19:39 |
jonpry | http://prymfg.com/kernel/nilfs_cleanerd | 19:40 |
jonpry | http://prymfg.com/kernel/libnilfs.so.0.0.1 | 19:40 |
jonpry | probably just copy the so.0.0.1 to /system/lib/libnilfs.so | 19:41 |
arrrghhh | where does that go? | 19:41 |
arrrghhh | k | 19:41 |
jonpry | then cleanerd can go anywhere | 19:41 |
arrrghhh | indeed | 19:41 |
jonpry | hopefully it doesn't crash. i compiled all the source files manually | 19:42 |
arrrghhh | k | 19:42 |
arrrghhh | we'll see | 19:42 |
jonpry | hmm, when my phone turns on it starts blasting funk music, any ideas? | 19:45 |
jonpry | wtf i can't stop it | 19:46 |
arrrghhh | lmao | 19:46 |
arrrghhh | are you serious? | 19:46 |
arrrghhh | i want that feature. | 19:46 |
jonpry | yes | 19:46 |
jonpry | this is going to put a damper on the testing | 19:47 |
arrrghhh | lol | 19:47 |
jonpry | must be nilfs | 19:47 |
arrrghhh | that certainly didn't happen to me... | 19:47 |
arrrghhh | jonpry, sh nilfs_cleanerd / nilfs_cleanerd: line 1: syntax error: unexpected word (expecting ")") | 19:49 |
arrrghhh | the '/' is the next line... | 19:49 |
jonpry | why sh? | 19:49 |
arrrghhh | ./ didn't work | 19:49 |
jonpry | what did ./ do | 19:49 |
arrrghhh | say's not found... | 19:49 |
arrrghhh | i don't get that | 19:50 |
jonpry | chmod +x | 19:50 |
arrrghhh | oh | 19:50 |
arrrghhh | heh | 19:50 |
arrrghhh | hrm... still says not found. | 19:50 |
arrrghhh | i'm in the directory where it is, obviously. ls confirmed. | 19:50 |
hyc | hey jonpry, does scbs only monitor battery level, or does it also control charging rate? | 19:50 |
jonpry | apt install stopped the funk | 19:51 |
jonpry | er adb | 19:51 |
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jonpry | hyc it only monitors the level, but there is some mechanism for turning off the charger when level==100 | 19:51 |
hyc | ok | 19:51 |
hyc | I'm now seeing the charging issue that arrrghhh reported | 19:52 |
arrrghhh | w00t | 19:52 |
arrrghhh | hyc, i told you i'm not nuts :P | 19:52 |
arrrghhh | lots of others have said it as well tho. | 19:52 |
hyc | heh | 19:52 |
hyc | but it wasn't happening at first | 19:52 |
jonpry | where drain goes through the roof? | 19:52 |
arrrghhh | hyc, perhaps @ 100 it doesn't come into play? | 19:52 |
hyc | yeah, something like that | 19:52 |
arrrghhh | i haven't noticed it | 19:53 |
arrrghhh | today | 19:53 |
arrrghhh | and i'm @ 100 | 19:53 |
arrrghhh | says 'charged' and isn't charging anymore. | 19:53 |
hyc | I'm thinking it's just that the battery level is incorrect all the time | 19:53 |
hyc | and that it's finally getting closer to reality when plugged in | 19:53 |
hyc | because eventually the plummet levels off and it starts increasing again | 19:53 |
jonpry | its worse when plugged in | 19:53 |
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hyc | hmm. also I plugged into plain AC charger and let it gain 20% or so - it did that rapidly | 19:54 |
jonpry | the error is mostly proportional to the current, and unplugged 200-400 ma is normal, but plugged in you get 900 or so | 19:54 |
hyc | switched back to USB and it dropped back down again | 19:54 |
hyc | 900mA or so of drain? | 19:55 |
CptAJ | guys, whats your average build time for the project? (and for reference, whats your cpu) | 19:55 |
hyc | or charge? | 19:55 |
jonpry | 900ma of charge | 19:55 |
hyc | ok | 19:55 |
jonpry | i can build in 17minutes | 19:55 |
arrrghhh | CptAJ, system or kernel? | 19:55 |
hyc | I have a 16 core server to build on now | 19:56 |
hyc | make -j20 takes ... not long | 19:56 |
arrrghhh | lol | 19:56 |
jonpry | that sounds like fun | 19:56 |
arrrghhh | bastage :P | 19:56 |
CptAJ | heh, I was thinking of getting into the dev scene for the lulz but my computer is fucking ancient. Im worried it will take months to build XD | 19:56 |
hyc | ok, it was at 65% for a couple minutes, after falling quickly to there from 82%. Now it's climbing slowly again. 66% | 19:57 |
jonpry | thats what scbs is for | 19:57 |
arrrghhh | hyc, it fluctuates. | 19:57 |
hyc | yeah, I think I'll have to get that setup | 19:57 |
arrrghhh | jonpry, we need scbs to work on all devices so it can be committed :D | 19:57 |
jonpry | no we don't | 19:57 |
jonpry | it isn't going to break other devices | 19:58 |
hyc | but it would be nice to know why the USB notification caused this much trouble | 19:58 |
arrrghhh | i thought emwe said it did | 19:58 |
arrrghhh | got some wacky values | 19:58 |
arrrghhh | hyc, indeed. this didn't happen before. | 19:58 |
jonpry | it can't be enabled on other devices | 19:58 |
CptAJ | its an old duron 1.6ghz (single core era XD). ballpark figure, how long do you think it'll take to build? | 19:58 |
hyc | I think it just means that the current code was failing to take USB status into account | 19:58 |
arrrghhh | plus, my battery DIED while USB tethering. 2x. that's not right. | 19:58 |
arrrghhh | CptAJ, does it really matter? first build might take a few hours. | 19:58 |
CptAJ | oh well, a few hours is doable | 19:59 |
arrrghhh | with minor changes the build is quick | 19:59 |
jonpry | arrrghhh, you renamed the .so yeah? | 19:59 |
arrrghhh | jonpry, yea. let me verify on the device... | 19:59 |
arrrghhh | indeed. /system/lib/libnilfs.so is thar | 20:00 |
jonpry | ldd nilfs_cleanerd | 20:00 |
hyc | jonpry - is there a post of your kernel patches? I'd rather keep the other stuff that's in my current kernel | 20:00 |
jonpry | i can email them to you | 20:01 |
hyc | cool, thx | 20:01 |
arrrghhh | jonpry, ldd: not found? | 20:01 |
jonpry | what is found? | 20:01 |
hyc | we have no ldd on the android system | 20:01 |
arrrghhh | heh, i don't even know what it is. | 20:01 |
hyc | but you can run strings libnilfs.so | grep lib | 20:02 |
hyc | that will tell you most of it | 20:02 |
arrrghhh | ah print shared library dependencies | 20:02 |
arrrghhh | ok | 20:02 |
arrrghhh | pastebin comin | 20:02 |
arrrghhh | http://pastebin.com/AyjYCx2p | 20:03 |
hyc | seems like it was not linked against bionic? I don't think bionic uses a separate libpthread | 20:04 |
hyc | nope it doesn't | 20:04 |
jonpry | its linked against bionic | 20:04 |
hyc | then why does it have a libpthread dependency? | 20:05 |
hyc | in bionic all pthread stuff is just in libc.so | 20:05 |
jonpry | ok, i removed pthread | 20:05 |
hyc | and bionic doesn't have versioned .so's | 20:05 |
hyc | bionic is just libc.so not libc.so.6 | 20:05 |
hyc | you have a glibc there | 20:05 |
jonpry | i just did -lc | 20:05 |
jonpry | /opt/CodeSourcery2010q3/Sourcery_G++_Lite/bin/arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc -std=gnu99 -Wall -pthread -g -O2 -o nilfs_cleanerd nilfs_cleanerd-cleanerd.o nilfs_cleanerd-cldconfig.o nilfs_cleanerd-vector.o crt0.o -nostdlib -L /home/jon/donut/out/target/product/msm/system/lib/ -L ../../lib -lc -ldl -lnilfs | 20:06 |
hyc | I think -lc is picking up system default. tho with -nostdlib it shouldn't. dunno | 20:07 |
hyc | I have an agcc wrapper script I use to compile other stuff with the android toolchain | 20:07 |
hyc | so I haven't had to think about this in years... | 20:08 |
hyc | mine specifies full path the android libgcc.a | 20:08 |
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hyc | your link has a dependency on libgcc_s.so.1 which also doesn't exist on android | 20:09 |
hyc | you have to explicitly use the static libgcc | 20:09 |
jonpry | hmm -static | 20:09 |
hyc | but you don't want static libc | 20:09 |
hyc | mebbe I should just email you my agcc script | 20:10 |
hyc | you'll have to customize the path to the toolchain since you're not using the SDK bundled one | 20:10 |
jonpry | static libc is fine | 20:11 |
jonpry | i think the problem is in libnilfs, it has the versioned crap and pthread | 20:13 |
hyc | sent agcc script to list | 20:15 |
hyc | it will make your life much easier... | 20:15 |
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jonpry | i don't know if i am smart enough to use that | 20:28 |
jonpry | hmm, this patch is complicated | 20:30 |
arrrghhh | lol | 20:31 |
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jonpry | did i mention that .39 is working pretty well? | 20:33 |
arrrghhh | define: pretty well | 20:34 |
jonpry | flawlessly for 5.68 seconds | 20:34 |
arrrghhh | lol | 20:34 |
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hyc | thanks, got the files | 20:51 |
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jonpry | no problem | 20:52 |
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arrrghhh | jonpry, lol. i adb push'd an apk to /data/app - it rebooted shortly thereafter ;) | 21:47 |
arrrghhh | perhaps i should put a bunch in /system/app see what happens... | 21:48 |
arrrghhh | lol reboots to winmo at bootani :( | 21:52 |
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jonpry | yeah it doesn't like mmap write | 22:14 |
jonpry | apparently that it what the davik cache precompile thingy uses | 22:18 |
jonpry | who needs to install crap anyways | 22:18 |
arrrghhh | heh | 22:19 |
arrrghhh | yea, Android without apps... | 22:19 |
arrrghhh | about as good as WinMo. alright, it's still better :P | 22:19 |
jonpry | you can install apps using e2, then copy to nilfs | 22:28 |
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arrrghhh | jonpry, explain please... | 22:29 |
arrrghhh | i have no ext2 partition | 22:29 |
jonpry | use another sdcard | 22:29 |
arrrghhh | other than p2 which is like 1mb or smth | 22:29 |
arrrghhh | Oo? | 22:30 |
jonpry | one with partitioned build | 22:30 |
jonpry | or use a loopback in andboot | 22:30 |
jonpry | then install :p | 22:30 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 22:31 |
arrrghhh | oh i see what you're saying. | 22:32 |
arrrghhh | use a tainted data.img :P | 22:32 |
jonpry | thats what i'm doing | 22:37 |
jonpry | the nilfs code i used is different from the built in stuff in newer kernels | 22:37 |
jonpry | i couldn't get the .39 nilfs to work though. some changes to the fs interface or something | 22:38 |
jonpry | i've had .35 boot froyo before, so we could almost test it | 22:39 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 22:39 |
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jonpry | i'm compiling a new kernel with like slim to none chance of fix | 22:49 |
arrrghhh | lol | 22:53 |
jonpry | its up if you want to try it | 22:56 |
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arrrghhh | jonpry, did you try it? :P | 23:31 |
jonpry | no | 23:43 |
arrrghhh | heh | 23:43 |
arrrghhh | i'll try it in a sec here | 23:43 |
jonpry | i'm catching up on some tv | 23:43 |
arrrghhh | just build a new system and data | 23:43 |
arrrghhh | :D | 23:43 |
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toadlife_phone | Arrrghhh, do the little arrows light up to indicate mobile data transfer for you with the latest rootfs? | 23:55 |
arrrghhh | toadlife_phone, there was a kernel hyc gave me that broke those | 23:55 |
arrrghhh | but i don't think the newest rootfs breaks those... i haven't checked tho | 23:56 |
toadlife_phone | Ahh | 23:56 |
arrrghhh | i keep playing with nilfs :P | 23:56 |
toadlife_phone | I'm running that kernel :p | 23:56 |
arrrghhh | oh | 23:57 |
arrrghhh | yea | 23:57 |
arrrghhh | it's the kernel | 23:57 |
toadlife_phone | Okay, well it not a big deal. Just wondering | 23:57 |
arrrghhh | he didn't tell you that? | 23:57 |
arrrghhh | hehe | 23:57 |
toadlife_phone | No. I just saw him post the link for you and grabbed it myself | 23:58 |
arrrghhh | well if you read around it, we discuss that :P | 23:58 |
toadlife_phone | I DEMAND HE FIX IT NOW! | 23:58 |
toadlife_phone | :p | 23:58 |
jonpry | arrrghhh, i tried it. and it doesn't crash | 23:59 |
arrrghhh | jonpry, w00t | 23:59 |
arrrghhh | i'm trying it now | 23:59 |
toadlife_phone | Ok, well got to put the kiddos to bed. Seeya | 23:59 |
arrrghhh | installing some dumb app that i'll probably just remove, just to test :P | 23:59 |
arrrghhh | nn | 23:59 |
jonpry | but it doesn't work either | 23:59 |
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arrrghhh | jonpry, lol | 23:59 |
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