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| Dweezahr | I am currently having clock skewness of 1 minute per hour on my htc touch pro 2, rhod100 , and I have enabled the use-network provided values option | 02:49 | 
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| Dweezahr | Is there anything I can do to solve this? | 02:49 | 
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| ryannathans | yes | 02:55 | 
| ryannathans | until it is properly 100% fixed, download "clocksync" from market and set it up to periodically sync the time | 02:55 | 
| Dweezahr | ah, okay, good enough for now | 02:55 | 
| Dweezahr | thanks | 02:55 | 
| ryannathans | no problem | 02:55 | 
| Dweezahr | is frx06 the final version of android 2.2? or are there still going to be updates of that version? | 02:56 | 
| ryannathans | frx06 is still recieving updates quite frequently | 02:58 | 
| ryannathans | but release on wiki/forum are only after each major version | 02:59 | 
| ryannathans | developers and those interested can download the source and compile their own version with updates coming in every few days | 02:59 | 
| ryannathans | updates are quite minor and the normal user does not need to bother with these, the major versions such as FRX05 and FRX06 etc. are fine | 03:00 | 
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| ryannathans | ooh a userland bluetooth update | 03:45 | 
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| boksing | hey | 08:20 | 
| boksing | anyone active? | 08:30 | 
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| midnight | hi all | 08:57 | 
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| i3luefire | does anyone know how to fix the contacts sync issue after doing the contacts restore from mybackup root? | 11:45 | 
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| ryannathans | i3luefire: never used the backup, add your contacts to your google account so that every time you add your account all your contacts sync | 12:32 | 
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| ryannathans | works everytime for me, flawless :D | 12:32 | 
| Dweezahr | exactly, thats my method too | 12:33 | 
| i3luefire | how to add contacts to my google account? | 12:34 | 
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| i3luefire | ok. it looks like it is syncing. i backed up my contacts to vcf then deleted them all again then told it to restore. idk if it is working but it looks like it | 12:35 | 
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| Entropy512 | yup, I just have all of my contacts in my google account | 12:43 | 
| Entropy512 | don't even know how to add a contact that doesn't sync automatically to google... | 12:43 | 
| i3luefire | that was the way mine was until i rerstored the contacts from a backup (by mistake) after a flash | 12:46 | 
| i3luefire | Entropy512: | 12:48 | 
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| xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Jojo, who says: Great job! | 13:23 | 
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| midnight | is the latest kernel 1289? | 14:04 | 
| midnight | or something new popped out yesterday? | 14:04 | 
| ryannathans | 1 sec | 14:17 | 
| midnight | nvm i checked,latest it's still 1289 | 14:17 | 
| ryannathans | im on 1300 =/ | 14:18 | 
| midnight | 1300= | 14:18 | 
| midnight | *? | 14:18 | 
| ryannathans | yeh | 14:18 | 
| ryannathans | wistilt2's test kernel | 14:18 | 
| midnight | oooh | 14:18 | 
| midnight | now i understand | 14:18 | 
| ryannathans | latest kernel is crap (in autobuild) | 14:19 | 
| ryannathans | fails on epic proportion, 17/3 kernel | 14:19 | 
| midnight | yes.. | 14:19 | 
| midnight | no wi-fi,no other things. | 14:19 | 
| ryannathans | my wifi works on it :D | 14:19 | 
| midnight | i'm still with 1276 | 14:19 | 
| midnight | and everything it's fine | 14:19 | 
| ryannathans | just failure battery life amunst other bugs not present in other kernels | 14:20 | 
| midnight | i should check what has been changed.. | 14:20 | 
| ryannathans | *should* ;) | 14:20 | 
| ryannathans | does wistilt2 release source? | 14:21 | 
| midnight | i don't know | 14:21 | 
| midnight | but i think no | 14:21 | 
| ryannathans | sigh, i am still waiting for f22's rootfs source D: | 14:21 | 
| midnight | strange in 1289 nothing has changed.. | 14:22 | 
| midnight | nothing special..just backlight of kb and another things. | 14:22 | 
| ryannathans | lol | 14:22 | 
| ryannathans | must be changes not listed | 14:22 | 
| midnight | viruscrazy seems to be working on bt and audio | 14:23 | 
| ryannathans | userland? | 14:23 | 
| ryannathans | i thought bt was done on kernel | 14:23 | 
| midnight | bt should be kernel.. | 14:24 | 
| midnight | but i'm not a kernel dev.. | 14:24 | 
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| ryannathans | i thought it was just userland that needed to be fixed up for bt | 14:25 | 
| ryannathans | exculding possible bugs | 14:25 | 
| helicopter88 | viruscrazy told me about kernel developing | 14:26 | 
| helicopter88 | so maybe a bit of userland.. | 14:26 | 
| helicopter88 | but more has to been done in kenrel | 14:26 | 
| helicopter88 | *kernel | 14:26 | 
| ryannathans | what i want to have a look at is f22's changes to rootfs in the near future | 14:27 | 
| ryannathans | they should hurry and commit them already -.- | 14:28 | 
| helicopter88 | has he sent the request to merge? | 14:28 | 
| ryannathans | i dont know | 14:28 | 
| ryannathans | wont reply to my messages | 14:29 | 
| helicopter88 | then,forget about it | 14:29 | 
| helicopter88 | and discover by yourself what has changed. | 14:29 | 
| ryannathans | how? | 14:30 | 
| helicopter88 | unpack xdandroid rootfs and f22 rootfs | 14:30 | 
| helicopter88 | go with a file diff program and see what he finds different | 14:30 | 
| ryannathans | all i think is changed is lots of new/changed keymaps | 14:31 | 
| helicopter88 | then you should check init.etc/keymaps | 14:31 | 
| ryannathans | i want source so i can compile some changes into rootfs and still have keymap, i guess i could do it another way | 14:31 | 
| helicopter88 | you can use keymaps from f22 and xda's rootfs | 14:32 | 
| ryannathans | yeah i think i will do that :D | 14:33 | 
| ryannathans | i hope theres no other changes :P | 14:33 | 
| helicopter88 | you can do the file diff to see if there are other changes.. | 14:34 | 
| helicopter88 | i use Winmerge in windows,it helped me to discover things about my builds and tiad's one.. | 14:34 | 
| ryannathans | but if other changes are too major i might not be able to copy them accross | 14:35 | 
| ryannathans | i will check out this winmerge | 14:36 | 
| helicopter88 | but at least you'll know what has been changed/added | 14:36 | 
| ryannathans | yeah, thanks :) | 14:37 | 
| helicopter88 | you are welcome.. | 14:37 | 
| helicopter88 | if you need any help,you can find me here or on xda,even on neopeek | 14:37 | 
| ryannathans | what time zone are you in? | 14:37 | 
| helicopter88 | italian time zome..should be greenwich +1 | 14:37 | 
| helicopter88 | yes utc+1 | 14:38 | 
| ryannathans | im in utc +8 (western audtralia) | 14:38 | 
| ryannathans | so take add seven hours to yours is my time i think | 14:38 | 
| helicopter88 | it's 3 am? | 14:38 | 
| ryannathans | yes | 14:38 | 
| ryannathans | almost | 14:38 | 
| helicopter88 | here's 20:40 | 14:39 | 
| helicopter88 | or 8:40 pm | 14:39 | 
| ryannathans | when are you more active? | 14:39 | 
| helicopter88 | when i'm not at school | 14:40 | 
| helicopter88 | in the afternoons.. | 14:40 | 
| ryannathans | same xD | 14:40 | 
| helicopter88 | like 3-10 pm.. | 14:40 | 
| ryannathans | i just have to remember your 3 is my 10 | 14:40 | 
| helicopter88 | so,10-17 pm.. | 14:41 | 
| helicopter88 | oh lol,but 17 pm doesn't exist | 14:42 | 
| ryannathans | sometimes i irc at school during breaks if it is urgent or i need to reach someone in a different timezone | 14:42 | 
| helicopter88 | so 10pm-5am | 14:42 | 
| ryannathans | sweet | 14:42 | 
| ryannathans | or i will just pm if thats fine with you | 14:42 | 
| helicopter88 | i love pm | 14:42 | 
| ryannathans | and whats your area of development? | 14:43 | 
| helicopter88 | i'm a small chef lol | 14:43 | 
| ryannathans | similar here jD | 14:44 | 
| helicopter88 | i have 1 thread in rhod section,2 in diam and on neopeek | 14:44 | 
| ryannathans | whats the rhod thread? | 14:44 | 
| helicopter88 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1007748 | 14:45 | 
| ryannathans | whats it based on? | 14:46 | 
| helicopter88 | huawei u8150 rom | 14:47 | 
| ryannathans | ahh i see | 14:48 | 
| hyc | ryannathans: all of the rootfs images include the entire git repo in the image | 14:48 | 
| hyc | you can track everything already you twit. | 14:48 | 
| ryannathans | woah, i did not know that, sweet! | 14:49 | 
| hyc | open your eyes... | 14:49 | 
| helicopter88 | hyc,it's a stupid question,but do you know if your ril can fix data and other things? | 14:50 | 
| hyc | fix what data and what other things? | 14:50 | 
| hyc | it won't bring world peace... | 14:50 | 
| helicopter88 | i know lol | 14:50 | 
| helicopter88 | but i have problems with network and data.. | 14:50 | 
| ryannathans | try it :P | 14:50 | 
| hyc | what problems? | 14:50 | 
| helicopter88 | and since i don't have a data plan,and my network is always 5/5 bars | 14:51 | 
| hyc | you're going to have to be a bit more descriptive to get an answer | 14:51 | 
| helicopter88 | i'm not good at making questions | 14:51 | 
| hyc | my ril returns accurate signal strength readings | 14:51 | 
| hyc | if you have no data plan for your SIM then I don't know what you expect my ril to do about it. | 14:51 | 
| helicopter88 | full queestion: | 14:52 | 
| helicopter88 | i have to update my build,and there were 2 mayor issues,dhcp,fixed and data not working,i can't test it,but i would like to know if you ril affects data | 14:52 | 
| hyc | yes | 14:52 | 
| helicopter88 | Can i put it in my build,of course i'll give you credits? | 14:53 | 
| hyc | sure | 14:53 | 
| helicopter88 | thank you | 14:53 | 
| ryannathans | same goes here ;D | 14:53 | 
| ryannathans | hopefully i can wrk it into rootfs now. maybe. | 14:54 | 
| hyc | whenever stinebd gets around to reviewing the patches it should show up in the frx and gbx system images by default | 14:54 | 
| helicopter88 | just a quick question,i read in the thread that there are problems with new ril by you,could you give me an older but working better version? | 14:55 | 
| helicopter88 | still thank you | 14:55 | 
| hyc | no, the latest version is ifne | 14:55 | 
| hyc | working fine | 14:55 | 
| helicopter88 | ok.. | 14:55 | 
| helicopter88 | so i'll try it,thank you | 14:55 | 
| ryannathans | latest is fine fr me also | 14:55 | 
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| helicopter88 | i've not tried yours before | 14:56 | 
| helicopter88 | but now i will.. | 14:56 | 
| ryannathans | helicopter88: how did you get that base working on our devices? every time i try i fail | 14:56 | 
| helicopter88 | huawei? | 14:56 | 
| ryannathans | yes | 14:56 | 
| helicopter88 | neo provided me the package | 14:57 | 
| helicopter88 | but system was fully huawei | 14:57 | 
| helicopter88 | so maybe it changed something in root | 14:57 | 
| helicopter88 | *rootfs | 14:57 | 
| ryannathans | i guess i will have to sign up and look at this neopeak as well | 14:57 | 
| helicopter88 | you can find me,i'm midnight | 14:58 | 
| ryannathans | meh ill do it tomorrow, too tired now | 14:58 | 
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| beagle | hi im new to android | 14:58 | 
| helicopter88 | hi | 14:58 | 
| beagle | in fact i dont have it | 14:58 | 
| helicopter88 | lol | 14:58 | 
| beagle | i have a blackstone (htc touch hd) and i would like to throw android on it | 14:59 | 
| ryannathans | yes | 14:59 | 
| beagle | ah so, do you have yes no maybe post link please my phone is modded with HSPL!! :) | 14:59 | 
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| ryannathans | hspl wont matter until we are running android on inturnal memory | 15:00 | 
| ryannathans | oh wait | 15:01 | 
| ryannathans | blackstone | 15:01 | 
| hyc | there's an XDA forum for blackstone already | 15:01 | 
| ryannathans | i never looked at a blackstone, i thought thered be a thread.. | 15:01 | 
| helicopter88 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=577 have a look here | 15:01 | 
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| helicopter88_din | i have to go eatin now | 15:05 | 
| helicopter88_din | cya | 15:05 | 
| ryannathans | bye | 15:05 | 
| ryannathans | meh i will mess with all this tomorrow, repo sync reports 'uncommited changes' and wont sync anymore, awesome -.- | 15:06 | 
| ryannathans | hyc: once i pull your changes repo sync should keep it current yes? | 15:07 | 
| ryannathans | sleep times. its 3:10am, ill be up in the mroning | 15:09 | 
| ryannathans | workong on this | 15:10 | 
| hyc | no, repo sync only pulls what's in the manifest file | 15:13 | 
| hyc | i don't know of any automatic way to pull my changes | 15:13 | 
| hyc | I guess I could fork the manifest.git and maintain my own manifest file | 15:14 | 
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| helicopter88 | does someone know how to odex files? | 15:25 | 
| Entropy512 | nope | 15:27 | 
| Entropy512 | I don't, I'm glad we're deodexed so I can try theming | 15:28 | 
| Entropy512 | although my attempts at theming so far have been failures | 15:28 | 
| helicopter88 | i'd like to odex my build.. | 15:30 | 
| helicopter88 | my phone just hung | 15:31 | 
| helicopter88 | hyc,nice job with the ril,working fine,here finds apn,and gets edge.. | 15:36 | 
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| hyc | good | 16:09 | 
| helicopter88 | and i don't know how but your ril made everything faster.. | 16:14 | 
| hyc | better code. | 16:32 | 
| hyc | the old ril was doing tons of redundant commands | 16:32 | 
| hyc | every time the network status changed it would fire off 5-6 commands getting the same data | 16:32 | 
| hyc | smarter programmer - better code - faster and more efficient operation | 16:33 | 
| helicopter88 | it does his job fast.. | 16:33 | 
| helicopter88 | really good job | 16:33 | 
| hyc | it's actually faster than the HTC ril too ;) | 16:34 | 
| helicopter88 | send it to htc lol | 16:34 | 
| helicopter88 | say "hey htc,my ril is faster than yours :P " | 16:36 | 
| hyc | lol | 16:36 | 
| hyc | unfortunately it still hangs on me | 16:36 | 
| hyc | I just went for a drive | 16:36 | 
| hyc | it hung twice | 16:36 | 
| helicopter88 | it hungs when changing tower? | 16:36 | 
| hyc | from the logs, it looks like it happened because at one point I went out of the coverage area of my network (T-Mobile) and onto an AT&T tower | 16:37 | 
| helicopter88 | oh noooo bootloop.. | 16:37 | 
| hyc | and the phone returned an error basically saying "roaming not permitted" | 16:37 | 
| hyc | so no, changing towers was no problem as long as they were all T-Mobile towers | 16:37 | 
| hyc | the log has over a dozen successful tower changes | 16:38 | 
| D3tul3 | hm i am fairly certain i roam in cdma mode without a problem on (a slightly outdated version of) your ril | 16:38 | 
| hyc | CDMA radio and GSM radio don't have identical behavior | 16:38 | 
| helicopter88 | oh well,so i don't think that you can do something about roaming not permitted | 16:38 | 
| hyc | no, but it should just disconnect, should not hang | 16:38 | 
| helicopter88 | uhm..... | 16:39 | 
| D3tul3 | right i was just saying whatever you code you wrote to implement cdma handling - you did it just fine | 16:39 | 
| hyc | unfortunately since I was driving and not looking at my phone, I don't know where it happened | 16:39 | 
| hyc | maybe I'll have to have a friend come with me | 16:39 | 
| D3tul3 | you have those?:) | 16:40 | 
| hyc | :P | 16:40 | 
| hyc | not many this week, I've been coding all week and not going out :P | 16:40 | 
| D3tul3 | i was reading the logs thanks for the "mm" heads up, that thing is pretty handy | 16:40 | 
| beagle | code me a cool game for .. oh wait this is android ... can you direct me to windows mobile 6.5 area ? | 16:41 | 
| hyc | heh, yeah, you gotta know the shortcuts | 16:41 | 
| beagle | android has better games than windows mobile doesnt it ? | 16:41 | 
| beagle | i wanna switch a blackstone (touch HD) to android can someone *entirely* help ? | 16:41 | 
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| beagle | cmon people if youre irc, youre not too busy ?!?!?! | 16:47 | 
| beagle | :D | 16:47 | 
| helicopter88 | i sent you the xda section about android on blackstone | 16:48 | 
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| hyc | I should've thought of this before... I'm going to swap SIMs between my G1 and TP2 so the G1 has the roaming-disabled card. | 17:29 | 
| hyc | then log the G1 with rilspy while logging the TP2 and carry them both with me when I drive to the trouble spot. | 17:29 | 
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| Entropy512 | hyc: It's not related to your current RIL, however - do you know of anything that might be different when a phone is talking to towers that are in an area code that matches that of the SIM's MSISDN (phone number) vs when the phone is out of that area? | 18:21 | 
| Entropy512 | My Huawei S7 fails whenever I travel - fine in the 607 area code geographical area, nonfunctional GSM/3G elsewhere. | 18:22 | 
| Entropy512 | It seems like it hangs when pulling EF-ADN data from the SIM, but it succeeds at doing the same thing when at home | 18:24 | 
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| hyc | Entropy512: dunno. it pulls that from the SIM before it has registered with the network | 18:36 | 
| hyc | you don't see anything interesting in logcat? | 18:36 | 
| Entropy512 | hmm, I think the S7 RIL is different there, if I recall, those commands were mixed in with network registration updates | 18:37 | 
| Entropy512 | I need to look at the good/bad logcats in more detail | 18:37 | 
| Entropy512 | maybe later tonight | 18:37 | 
| Entropy512 | it's just strange what the criteria for failure/success are, and the fact that it just happens to hang when doing something different | 18:37 | 
| Entropy512 | more specifically - the AT channel hangs | 18:37 | 
| Entropy512 | and the RIL stops seeing reponses | 18:37 | 
| Entropy512 | afk a while | 18:38 | 
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| hyc | I think our kernel's smd driver sucks | 18:40 | 
| phh | I don't think we ever hit a bug on it, but yeah that's likely | 18:41 | 
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| hyc | well the fact that it crashes the kernel if you open the same smd port twice is an obvious starter | 18:45 | 
| hyc | I'm wondering though if smd_tty.c could be patched to do a better job | 18:45 | 
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| hyc | like simulating CD dropping if the data channel is lost | 18:46 | 
| phh | not like it's RIL's work.. but indeed yes. | 18:47 | 
| hyc | and I still have the suspicion now that the hangs are because pppd is trying to talk to the port when the connection is lost | 18:48 | 
| hyc | on a regular tty driver, the write would just fail since the tty sees the modem control signals, and knows they're turned off | 18:49 | 
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| R^7Z | xdandroid: seen jonpry | 18:50 | 
| xdandroid | R^7Z: jonpry was last seen in #xdandroid 2 weeks, 1 day, 23 hours, 20 minutes, and 1 second ago: <jonpry> is there anything that zonks /dev ? | 18:50 | 
| R^7Z | :/ | 18:50 | 
| hyc | you're looking in the wrong place, he's usually in #htc-linux | 18:51 | 
| phh | yeah | 18:51 | 
| phh | and this bot isn't on both chan | 18:51 | 
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| R^7Z | thx | 18:51 | 
| phh | but apt is dead ? oO | 18:52 | 
| hyc | hmmm. the modem doesn't send a NO CARRIER msg when it loses the network | 18:55 | 
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| hyc | mebbe I just need to explicitly kill pppd when the registration is lost | 18:57 | 
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