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| arrrghhh | hyc, ping | 00:48 |
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| hyc | pong | 00:52 |
| hyc | arrrghhh: what's up? | 00:53 |
| arrrghhh | i see you want a world phone | 00:53 |
| arrrghhh | where are you located? | 00:53 |
| hyc | Los Angeles | 00:53 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 00:53 |
| hyc | you have a suggestion? | 00:54 |
| arrrghhh | i know of one, but i would need to do some insurance trickery | 00:54 |
| arrrghhh | not sure if i want to do that or not :P | 00:54 |
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| arrrghhh | basically someone is willing to donate a device that doesn't have a functional usb port. it charges, but no data xfers. | 00:54 |
| arrrghhh | so... no adb | 00:54 |
| hyc | oy | 00:55 |
| hyc | that makes things a bit tougher | 00:55 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 00:55 |
| hyc | I guess there's always wifi and dropbear sshd | 00:55 |
| arrrghhh | he suggested someone with a sprint acct take it | 00:55 |
| arrrghhh | and swap it | 00:55 |
| arrrghhh | then get insurance replacement for it. | 00:55 |
| hyc | ah, interesting idea | 00:56 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 00:56 |
| arrrghhh | he said he's done it before | 00:56 |
| arrrghhh | and i've definitely gotten insurance replacements | 00:56 |
| hyc | but don't they have a record of which phone you had? how can you just swap it? | 00:56 |
| arrrghhh | but not in that manner :P | 00:56 |
| arrrghhh | well i could ask them to swap it out | 00:56 |
| arrrghhh | then i assume i'd have to wait a month or so | 00:56 |
| Phil | anyone got xdandroid 2.2 to load on AT&T HTC Fuze? Mine gets stuck on the text screen getting hung up on taskrpcrouter:15 blocked for more than 120 sec.. | 00:57 |
| arrrghhh | then say the new phone has a bad usb port. | 00:57 |
| arrrghhh | Phil, did you grab the ts-calibration file or create your own? | 00:57 |
| Phil | arrghhh: I don't know what that is. I just downloaded the XDAndroid 2.2, unpacked it, copied the startup.txt file, placed it onto my microSD and ran haret. | 00:58 |
| arrrghhh | Phil, are you reading one of my threads? | 00:59 |
| arrrghhh | or something else. | 00:59 |
| Phil | I read the instruction in one of the treads | 01:00 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 01:00 |
| arrrghhh | well if you're reading one of my threads, you skipped a step. | 01:00 |
| arrrghhh | ts-calib is important... | 01:00 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951981 | 01:02 |
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| Phil | arrrghhh: Is there another site to get the file? I registered but the site will not allow me to download. | 01:10 |
| odz | login? | 01:11 |
| arrrghhh | follow the steps to create your own then | 01:11 |
| arrrghhh | it's not hard... | 01:11 |
| arrrghhh | just gotta boot 2x basically | 01:11 |
| Phil | Well, that's the problem. 1st boot = hangs. I would (after 10-20 min), remove battery then replace. Go back to run herat... same thing. | 01:22 |
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| arrrghhh | more than 10 mins = bootloop | 01:27 |
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| highone | anyone here available for a question on getting xdandroid connected to Windows 7 64bit via usb for data transfer? | 03:15 |
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| helicopter88 | Hi all | 04:28 |
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| helicopter88 | hi emwe | 04:49 |
| emwe | hi | 04:56 |
| helicopter88 | do you know a fix for busy on incoming call on gingerbread? | 05:03 |
| emwe | fix for busy? | 05:04 |
| helicopter88 | yes.. | 05:04 |
| emwe | i am not a good advisor currently. i am running gingerbread, but with .35 kernel. i have sound, but no sound routing, yet. so i don't even do calls currently. | 05:05 |
| helicopter88 | i'm with my aosp ginger 2.3.3,on .27 with latest hyc ril | 05:05 |
| helicopter88 | tried with default ril,and still busy... | 05:05 |
| emwe | what means fix for busy? i am no native english speaker. phone service indicating no call possible/already present? | 05:05 |
| helicopter88 | when someone calls me,he/she gets that i'm busy | 05:06 |
| emwe | i see. never tried that sorry | 05:06 |
| helicopter88 | oh,nevermind | 05:06 |
| emwe | did you already file a bug report at the bugtracker? | 05:06 |
| helicopter88 | No,i should check if someone has the issue.. | 05:07 |
| emwe | bugs.xdandroid.com | 05:07 |
| emwe | be as detailed as possible and state you have the same issue with the stock ril | 05:08 |
| emwe | will hopefully soon get to the point i can use the phone as a phone ;) | 05:08 |
| helicopter88 | the main problem is that mine isn't cloned by xdandroid git,it has been cloned by neopeek,and i'm optimizing it.. | 05:09 |
| emwe | oh wait, you are referring to neopeek?! then please refraing from posting a bug on our bugtracker :) | 05:10 |
| emwe | i dunno what neopeek is doing. | 05:10 |
| emwe | he has setup a git repository? | 05:11 |
| emwe | (or rather some...) | 05:11 |
| helicopter88 | I know he has a cm7 git | 05:11 |
| helicopter88 | here's why i haven't posted in bugtracker | 05:11 |
| helicopter88 | wait,i have to reboot my pc | 05:13 |
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| helicopter88 | i'm back | 05:16 |
| emwe | wb. | 05:20 |
| emwe | so yeah, can't tell anything about neopeek stuff | 05:20 |
| helicopter88 | nevermind.. | 05:21 |
| helicopter88 | do you know what's the line that in .conf file points to the ril? | 05:21 |
| emwe | which .conf? i only know the place where ril lives. | 05:26 |
| emwe | system/lib/libhtcgeneric-ril.so | 05:27 |
| helicopter88 | nevermind,i found myself,still thank you,and good luck with .35 | 05:27 |
| emwe | thx | 05:27 |
| helicopter88 | what is and isn't working on .35? | 05:29 |
| emwe | nothing really on my tree ;) | 05:30 |
| emwe | snd panel and pm | 05:31 |
| emwe | but no sound routing. | 05:31 |
| emwe | well, modem and phone as well | 05:31 |
| emwe | still a long road to go especially as we strive for cleaning up what is called .27. | 05:32 |
| helicopter88 | and so,good luck hope to see something soon.. | 05:34 |
| emwe | me too ;) | 05:39 |
| helicopter88 | after .35 go with .38 lol | 05:39 |
| emwe | google and ca/qct haven't jumped on .38 yet. | 05:41 |
| emwe | anyway, doesn't really matter for now. | 05:41 |
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| diamondrene | is there anyone that has a good touch screen calibration file for the Diamond 2 (topaz)? | 08:26 |
| diamondrene | the callibration dots didn't appaer | 08:27 |
| diamondrene | I hope that there is someone with a link to a working version | 08:32 |
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| helicopter_lunch | ehy all | 09:30 |
| helicopter_lunch | *hey | 09:30 |
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| helicopter_lunch | hyc,i replied on your topic on xda | 10:35 |
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| helicopter_lunch | heya arrrghhh | 11:13 |
| arrrghhh | what's up midnight | 11:14 |
| helicopter_lunch | everything is fine | 11:14 |
| helicopter_lunch | only a small issue in gingercherry v2 preventing me to release it to public | 11:14 |
| arrrghhh | more dhcp woes? | 11:15 |
| helicopter_lunch | no dhcp fixed,now is busy on incoming call | 11:15 |
| arrrghhh | Oo | 11:15 |
| arrrghhh | are you mucking with the RIL? | 11:15 |
| helicopter_lunch | yes,i'm trying a lot of things | 11:16 |
| helicopter_lunch | do you have any idea about it? | 11:20 |
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| arrrghhh | what have you tried, RIL-wise? | 11:42 |
| Entropy512 | arrrghhh: has anyone ever successfully used a dual-mode (RHOD400/500) phone on a GSM network? | 11:43 |
| Entropy512 | looks like some guy in forums is trying to use a worldphone on a GSM network | 11:43 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 11:43 |
| arrrghhh | there's an issue with newer kernels tho | 11:43 |
| Entropy512 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029796 | 11:43 |
| arrrghhh | their radio shuts off when the screen is off | 11:43 |
| arrrghhh | i'm sure i've read whatever post that is :P | 11:43 |
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| arrrghhh | well i don't know what the hell he's talking bout. i know several that do that exact thing. | 11:52 |
| arrrghhh | use rhod400/500 as a gsm device | 11:52 |
| Entropy512 | btw, you should probably have a link to the wifi-nvram.txt fix in your FAQ | 11:54 |
| Entropy512 | it's needed pretty rarely, but some people do need it | 11:54 |
| Entropy512 | (like me) | 11:55 |
| hyc | what models need it? | 11:55 |
| Entropy512 | some RHOD210s, some RHOD300s, seemingly not all | 11:55 |
| hyc | weird. glad my rhod210 is fine. | 11:55 |
| Entropy512 | yeah, my wifi never worked until I did the fix | 11:56 |
| Entropy512 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9187263&postcount=80 | 11:56 |
| Entropy512 | it has been known to happen on 210s and 300s apparently, but not all such devices | 11:56 |
| Entropy512 | maybe there are variations in wifi chipset? | 11:57 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 11:57 |
| arrrghhh | i agree i should include a link | 11:57 |
| arrrghhh | it is a wiki after all... :P | 11:57 |
| hyc | probably a lot of variations. broadcom vs TI at least. | 11:58 |
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| hyc | and broadcom was always a pain, on my laptops. surprised it works here. :p | 12:01 |
| helicopter_lunch | hi all,i'm back | 12:02 |
| Entropy512 | I think my unit has broadcom | 12:02 |
| Entropy512 | broadcom = evil | 12:02 |
| Entropy512 | broadcom = teh suck | 12:02 |
| arrrghhh | yea, all rhod are some form of bcm | 12:03 |
| helicopter_lunch | arrrggg sorry for the late answer,my dog was barking,i tried ril included in neopeek's dev package and last 2 ril of hyc,and i get busy on incoming calls | 12:03 |
| arrrghhh | i thought it was the same bcm across the board, but evidently not all are created equal. | 12:03 |
| arrrghhh | helicopter_lunch, that's... really odd. | 12:03 |
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| Entropy512 | oh I guess TIs are on other HTC devices, I know I've seen TI stuff in some kernel sources | 12:03 |
| Entropy512 | don't remember the specifics | 12:04 |
| helicopter_lunch | yes...i don't know again what's causing it.. | 12:04 |
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| Entropy512 | an interesting thing I noticed - it seems like our RIL (and hyc's) inject the IP address of a SUPL server into our radio for AGPS | 12:04 |
| Entropy512 | I wonder how the GPS manages to communicate with the SUPL server, since PPP is running on the ARM11 side | 12:05 |
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| hyc | i got the impression that other devices had rmnet support | 12:19 |
| hyc | and more recent like rhodium lost it | 12:20 |
| helicopter88 | i just figured that i'm not understanding anything you are saying :) | 12:20 |
| hyc | I read in various places of having the option of choosing one or the other... | 12:20 |
| Entropy512 | ah advanced mobile subscriber software - is that just another term for "Radio ROM"? :) | 12:27 |
| helicopter88 | so,from what i understood doing a bit of search is that rmnet = stable,and on native droids,ppp=winmo,faster,and has problems on android,is that right? | 12:27 |
| Entropy512 | brb | 12:27 |
| helicopter88 | hyc,not to be annoying but have you checked my reply in your thread? | 12:27 |
| hyc | not yet | 12:27 |
| helicopter88 | ok,take your time | 12:28 |
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| hyc | reading it now | 12:35 |
| hyc | helicopter88: looks like your APN is wrong for data | 12:35 |
| hyc | always disconnects right away | 12:35 |
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| helicopter88 | hyc,i don't care about data,it's because i disabled them,i need to know about incoming call bug | 12:43 |
| helicopter88 | and about data,i just figured that i had a really little apn file,but that's not my problem now.. | 12:45 |
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| helicopter88 | wb arrrghhh | 12:46 |
| hyc | I dunno. the two import sections are commands [0149] and [0150] | 12:47 |
| hyc | looks to me like the call was reported correctly | 12:47 |
| helicopter88 | that's what i understood | 12:47 |
| hyc | and then the phone said to hang up | 12:47 |
| helicopter88 | yes,the other phone said | 12:48 |
| helicopter88 | wind,the number you called is actually offline(translation by me) | 12:48 |
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| helicopter88 | and another time,other phone hung up,without saying anything.. | 12:48 |
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| hyc | I don't know what you're doing with the APNs, but you should have just turned the Data Enabled setting off | 12:50 |
| hyc | it seems to be confusing the phone | 12:51 |
| helicopter88 | wait a sec and i'll try with data turned off | 12:51 |
| helicopter88 | do you need a normal logcat or a radio logcat? | 12:52 |
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| helicopter88 | hyc,do i need to enable 2g only? | 12:53 |
| hyc | get both logcats | 12:57 |
| hyc | no, 2G only should not matter | 12:57 |
| helicopter88 | radio logcat,time got crazy,but in the end it gets back to normal and the call has been done on 18:55 http://www.multiupload.com/NR36V44D8R | 12:58 |
| helicopter88 | here's the normal one http://www.multiupload.com/QKKHAILRK7 | 13:01 |
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| hyc | why does the time change? | 13:02 |
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| helicopter88 | i think because of wm | 13:03 |
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| hyc | your normal logcat shows the error | 13:07 |
| hyc | 18:55:23.460 | 13:07 |
| hyc | no idea what it means but something is wrong with your phone | 13:07 |
| hyc | try setting winmo into airplane mode and booting it again | 13:11 |
| hyc | I see leftover modem replies from windows in your log | 13:11 |
| helicopter88 | uhm...but with other testers them got incoming calls problems too.. | 13:13 |
| helicopter88 | uhmm,wtf have i changed? | 13:13 |
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| helicopter88 | let me try a thing.. | 13:13 |
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| hyc | other testers on what builds? xdandroid or neopeek? | 13:13 |
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| helicopter88 | ok | 13:14 |
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| helicopter88 | wait,i have to reinstall android,i modified a file. | 13:16 |
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| helicopter88 | mine,neopeek based | 13:16 |
| helicopter88 | gingerbread aosp 2.3.3. | 13:16 |
| helicopter88 | wait,now about to run haret.. | 13:20 |
| AstainHellbring | helicopter88 what device that on? | 13:25 |
| helicopter88 | diamond | 13:26 |
| AstainHellbring | how's it run on that? | 13:27 |
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| helicopter88 | goes fast,fast fast | 13:28 |
| helicopter88 | but no rma | 13:28 |
| helicopter88 | *ram | 13:28 |
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| helicopter88 | hyc,logats http://www.multiupload.com/4MEWNDHNKO | 13:31 |
| helicopter88 | call done at 19:27 | 13:31 |
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| hyc | you still have data enabled | 13:32 |
| helicopter88 | no | 13:32 |
| helicopter88 | i've disabled them | 13:32 |
| hyc | and you still have rejecting incoming call | 13:32 |
| helicopter88 | and wm on airplane.. | 13:32 |
| helicopter88 | maybe i sent you the wrong logs | 13:33 |
| hyc | no, I seet the data connection closed, fine | 13:33 |
| helicopter88 | ok,so what's the error that is present? | 13:34 |
| hyc | I already told you. read the logcatnormal, look for "reject" | 13:35 |
| helicopter88 | let me check it | 13:35 |
| hyc | in the radio log it shows you have incoming text messages. did you receive those? | 13:35 |
| helicopter88 | yes | 13:36 |
| helicopter88 | it was the one saying "you got called by my other phone" | 13:36 |
| helicopter88 | did a brief search on internet,should be phone.apk.. | 13:37 |
| hyc | whatever. I don't believe there's any problem with the ril here | 13:38 |
| hyc | and I don't run gingerbread. can't help you. | 13:39 |
| helicopter88 | you helped me a lot | 13:39 |
| helicopter88 | it should be wrong phone.apk | 13:39 |
| helicopter88 | just saw that mine is 1.13 mb the xda's one is 2.2 | 13:39 |
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| bgl[bed] | lol jesus freak | 14:15 |
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| bgl[bed] | lol jesus freak | 14:31 |
| bgl[bed] | lol jesus freak | 14:31 |
| bgl[bed] | lol jesus freak | 14:31 |
| bgl[bed] | lol jesus freak | 14:31 |
| bgl[bed] | lol jesus freak | 14:31 |
| bgl[bed] | lol jesus freak | 14:31 |
| bgl[bed] | lol jesus freak | 14:31 |
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| arrrghhh | are you trying to provoke him? | 14:38 |
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| diamondrene | heeft er iemand een goede ts calibration file voor de diamond 2? | 15:05 |
| diamondrene | Does anyone has a good ts calibration file for the diamond 2 (topaz)? | 15:06 |
| arrrghhh | diamondrene, make your own | 15:09 |
| diamondrene | that doesn't work | 15:09 |
| diamondrene | the first dot isn't displayed | 15:09 |
| arrrghhh | if you're using one of my builds | 15:09 |
| arrrghhh | there's directions on how to do it | 15:09 |
| arrrghhh | (you have to use an older kernel...) | 15:09 |
| diamondrene | ah can you give me a link? | 15:10 |
| bgl[bed] | arrrghhh , i accidentally pasted a hello to him about 7 times | 15:10 |
| arrrghhh | you should know where the autobuild is | 15:10 |
| arrrghhh | bgl[bed], you just said lol jesus freak a bunch of times from what i can see... | 15:10 |
| bgl[bed] | yeah | 15:10 |
| bgl[bed] | because of mircs programming i pressed up and enter when it switched over | 15:10 |
| bgl[bed] | nevermind | 15:10 |
| bgl[bed] | sorry about the flood | 15:11 |
| bgl[bed] | for get it | 15:11 |
| bgl[bed] | let it go | 15:11 |
| bgl[bed] | i dont flood on purpose | 15:11 |
| diamondrene | arrgh wich kernel do you recommend? | 15:13 |
| arrrghhh | bgl[bed], ok.. | 15:14 |
| arrrghhh | diamondrene, one before the .35 fb commit | 15:14 |
| arrrghhh | 1225 i think is guten | 15:14 |
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| diamondrene | .35 fb? can I use [ ]FRX04_Full_Bundle_12.2.2011.zip ? | 15:17 |
| arrrghhh | that's old | 15:18 |
| arrrghhh | frx06 is out | 15:18 |
| rpierce99 | don't use a bundle, just need a kernel | 15:18 |
| arrrghhh | and ^^ | 15:18 |
| arrrghhh | ugh | 15:18 |
| arrrghhh | i guess it's hand-feeding time | 15:18 |
| diamondrene | I know but the calibration does not work by frx06... | 15:18 |
| arrrghhh | good thing i already have this linked in my thread | 15:18 |
| arrrghhh | diamondrene, you're not listening. the problem is the kernel | 15:18 |
| arrrghhh | not the build | 15:18 |
| arrrghhh | (system image = frx06) | 15:19 |
| arrrghhh | do you know how to replace just the kernel? | 15:19 |
| arrrghhh | http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20101124_204019-package.tar.bz2 | 15:19 |
| arrrghhh | ^^ 1225 | 15:19 |
| arrrghhh | you can use that kernel to calibrate the screen. | 15:19 |
| diamondrene | Oké I gonne try that again | 15:20 |
| diamondrene | the same as before | 15:23 |
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| diamondrene | failed to load file | 15:23 |
| diamondrene | when I run haret | 15:23 |
| diamondrene | should I rename them? | 15:23 |
| rpierce99 | did you extract the file into a zImage and modules? | 15:23 |
| diamondrene | I extract it once and I have 2 files now | 15:24 |
| rpierce99 | one should be the kernel, named zImage (no extension) | 15:25 |
| diamondrene | zImage_20101124_204019 | 15:25 |
| rpierce99 | one should be the modules, modules-blah.tar.gz | 15:25 |
| diamondrene | modules-2.6.27.46-01225-g3f3a047.tar.gz | 15:25 |
| diamondrene | yes I have them and placed them on the sd card | 15:25 |
| rpierce99 | you replaced the ones that were already there? | 15:25 |
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| hyc | your zImage_20101124_204019 should just be "zImage" | 15:25 |
| diamondrene | I I got to rename it | 15:26 |
| beagle | lol | 15:27 |
| beagle | i need more water here ! | 15:27 |
| beagle | lots of water | 15:27 |
| hyc | Woohoo, I think the last hanging bug in the ril is squashed! | 15:27 |
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| hyc | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12793968&postcount=240 | 15:28 |
| diamondrene | it is booting :) | 15:29 |
| diamondrene | the image is a kernel and ? (libaries or something) ? | 15:29 |
| diamondrene | I am just curieus | 15:29 |
| Entropy512 | zImage is just the kernel - I don't know the history of why compressed Linux kernels are named zImage | 15:30 |
| Entropy512 | but it has been that way for a VERY long time | 15:30 |
| Entropy512 | a decade or two (e.g. long before the time of Android) | 15:30 |
| Entropy512 | the modules are loadable drivers used by the kernel | 15:30 |
| emwe | hyc: congrats! | 15:31 |
| hyc | :) | 15:34 |
| hyc | you know how hard it is to find an area with no signal, here in LA? :P | 15:37 |
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| emwe | heh | 15:41 |
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| emwe | hyc: i can't use your latest androidhtc1 with stock userland, right? | 15:41 |
| hyc | no it's fine | 15:41 |
| hyc | the nodified one is in the initpppd branch | 15:41 |
| hyc | that needs all the patched init stuff | 15:41 |
| Entropy512 | hmm interesting | 15:41 |
| emwe | oh it is? coolio! | 15:41 |
| Entropy512 | looks like our init tries to auto-install all apps in AndroidApps to /data/app | 15:42 |
| hyc | but actually I've already merged my androidhtc1 branch with my gingerbread branch | 15:42 |
| Entropy512 | however it doesn't handle subdirectories | 15:42 |
| emwe | hyc: so the "traveling" patch referenced in the above forum post is in there, yap? | 15:42 |
| hyc | yes | 15:42 |
| hyc | my gingerbread and androidhtc1 branches should be identical right now | 15:42 |
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| emwe | whonder if we hsould just have a master branch for the ril actually. | 15:42 |
| emwe | there should be no diff | 15:42 |
| emwe | unless google defines another api like done with sensors. | 15:43 |
| hyc | yeah right now the APIs are basically the same, but some things are extended | 15:43 |
| hyc | GB ril.h defines EvDO RevB | 15:44 |
| hyc | Froyo doesn't know it | 15:44 |
| emwe | ah | 15:44 |
| hyc | Probably not an issue for our phones :P | 15:44 |
| emwe | will give it a go then over night | 15:44 |
| emwe | unfortunately won't travel a lot ;) | 15:45 |
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| hyc | you should still edit /etc/ppp/options.smd, as described here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=950383 | 15:45 |
| hyc | that will speed up disconnecting | 15:46 |
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| diamondrene | yeah! it works! thank you! | 15:47 |
| diamondrene | hmm black screen....red led....green led... | 15:48 |
| diamondrene | it works again | 15:48 |
| Entropy512 | does the LED react when you hit power? | 15:48 |
| Entropy512 | if it goes red when you hit power | 15:48 |
| Entropy512 | but doesn't turn on | 15:48 |
| Entropy512 | that's a failed wake | 15:49 |
| Entropy512 | known issue, WisTilt2's test kernels fix most failed wakes on RHOD | 15:49 |
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| rpierce99 | diamondrene: now that you have a valid calibration, you need to load a newer kernel again | 15:53 |
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| Entropy512 | I cannot figure out how ryannathans managed to get the leaked Market to work | 16:00 |
| Entropy512 | even with a wiped/fresh data partition, it has permissions issues | 16:00 |
| diamondrene | I did | 16:03 |
| diamondrene | it seems to work fine | 16:03 |
| diamondrene | online when I push the back to home screen button | 16:03 |
| diamondrene | the screen turns black | 16:03 |
| diamondrene | and It is hard to get it alive again | 16:03 |
| diamondrene | but furthermore it is great | 16:03 |
| Entropy512 | hmm we don't have a home screen button - Spare Parts can map the call end button to Home | 16:06 |
| diamondrene | yes I mean the call end button | 16:08 |
| diamondrene | oh it is power | 16:09 |
| diamondrene | I found a image of the button functions | 16:09 |
| diamondrene | It is better to not use that button or Iḿ stuck with a black screen :) | 16:10 |
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| diamondrene | the red led light is on what does that mean? | 16:35 |
| rpierce99 | my phone doesn't have red, it has orange, but orange for me means the phone is not sleeping | 16:36 |
| diamondrene | aha oké :) | 16:36 |
| diamondrene | what happens if you push the end call button? | 16:37 |
| rpierce99 | on mine, i have it set to go to home | 16:37 |
| rpierce99 | but it doesn't function as an end call button anymore | 16:37 |
| diamondrene | ah you canghe the functions ? | 16:38 |
| rpierce99 | by replacing your rootfs | 16:38 |
| rpierce99 | well, you can send the end call button to home AND to end call using the spare parts app | 16:39 |
| rpierce99 | i did it with rootfs so i could get the press and hold end key = recent apps | 16:40 |
| Tynictansol | Would this be an appropriate place to ask a question regarding a nand installation of Android, or would that be off topic? Don't want to clot up potential discourse with irrelevancy. | 16:44 |
| rpierce99 | you can ask, worst case no one can answer and all you get is silence | 16:45 |
| Tynictansol | True enough. | 16:46 |
| Tynictansol | Is there a way to manipulate the clock settings of the processor? The instructions I see here on the wiki as well as on forums such as ppcg/xdad generally only seem to apply to Haret methods of using Android. | 16:47 |
| rpierce99 | you want to OC? | 16:47 |
| Tynictansol | It's not really laggy, but knowing how to would be nice, yes. More useful for me, since while I have my laptop with me a lot of the time while at work, I do sometimes have to be away from it for hours and during those situations underclocking would be more what I would be using. | 16:49 |
| diamondrene | what is the function of the end call button? | 16:49 |
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| rpierce99 | currently the overclock settings are compiled into the tinboot and then bundled into the NBH, IIRC, so you'd have to recompile to change those settings | 16:50 |
| Tynictansol | End puts the device to sleep. | 16:50 |
| rpierce99 | diamondrene: yes by default the end call button is on/off | 16:50 |
| rpierce99 | and the power button takes you home i believe | 16:50 |
| diamondrene | great | 16:50 |
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| Tynictansol | Back is back, Win is menu, power's home. | 16:50 |
| Tynictansol | Yessir | 16:50 |
| rpierce99 | i don't know how it's laid out on your phone tbh | 16:50 |
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| diamondrene | do you reccomand a faster sd card? | 16:51 |
| diamondrene | or is a standard good enough? | 16:51 |
| an4564 | can someone help me? | 16:51 |
| rpierce99 | oddly enough there are sd cards that are "too fast" | 16:51 |
| rpierce99 | most sd cards work just fine | 16:51 |
| rpierce99 | an4564: don't ask to ask, just ask | 16:51 |
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| an4564 | i have the at&t version of the touch pro2 and i cant get a signal when i try to run andriod | 16:52 |
| Tynictansol | Thanks anyway, rpierce. :) Mine's not a huge pressing issue, and I'm happy to for the results of development already. | 16:52 |
| an4564 | i dont know what to do to get it work | 16:53 |
| an4564 | keeps saying no service | 16:54 |
| rpierce99 | do you have force_cdma=0 in your startup.txt | 16:55 |
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| an4564 | i dont think so | 16:56 |
| rpierce99 | having it isn't required, but if it's force_cdma=1, then you're going to have problems | 16:56 |
| an4564 | so do i just change it to force_cdma=0? | 16:57 |
| an4564 | right now its force_cdma=1 | 16:57 |
| rpierce99 | yes, change it to 0 or delete it | 16:57 |
| an4564 | ok changed to to 0 | 16:58 |
| an4564 | im going to try to see id it works | 16:58 |
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| an4564 | it just rebooted my phone | 17:01 |
| an4564 | okim going to try to delete it | 17:03 |
| an4564 | ok i think it works | 17:09 |
| an4564 | thanks | 17:09 |
| an4564 | how do i turn off data? | 17:11 |
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| diamondrene | it works like a charm | 17:11 |
| diamondrene | can anybody tells me something about the battery life in comparision with windows mobile? | 17:12 |
| an4564 | does anyone know how i can turn off data? | 17:15 |
| an4564 | i dont have it on my plan and i dont want to get charged | 17:16 |
| diamondrene | just...pull out the sim card :) | 17:20 |
| JesusFreak316 | He probably still wants to make phone calls. ;) | 17:20 |
| JesusFreak316 | Hmm, I think there's something like droid firewall or something like that. | 17:20 |
| an4564 | whats that? | 17:20 |
| JesusFreak316 | droid wall | 17:22 |
| JesusFreak316 | It lets you define what apps have intrnet access. | 17:23 |
| an4564 | oh | 17:23 |
| an4564 | so theres no way i can turn off data? | 17:23 |
| JesusFreak316 | I'm not sure though; I don't even have a voice plan; I buy HTC phones off Craigslist to use like normal people use iPod Touches. | 17:23 |
| JesusFreak316 | There should be that too. | 17:23 |
| an4564 | im looking for that but im not sure where it is | 17:24 |
| Entropy512 | an4564: Settings->Wireless and Network Settings->Mobile Networks | 17:24 |
| JesusFreak316 | i know cyanogenmod has in it's power control widget a data toggle but I don't know about xdandroid. | 17:24 |
| Entropy512 | you should be able to disable data there | 17:24 |
| Entropy512 | but | 17:24 |
| Entropy512 | I can't guarantee that will work as expected | 17:24 |
| JesusFreak316 | I moved on from my TP to my HD2 a while back. | 17:24 |
| Entropy512 | nearly everyone here has data on their plans | 17:24 |
| an4564 | ok ill try that | 17:25 |
| an4564 | how do i know if it start to use data? | 17:26 |
| Entropy512 | you don't | 17:26 |
| an4564 | will something appear next the signal and wifi? | 17:26 |
| Entropy512 | in theory, you'll see an E or H icon with data bars if it's using GSM data | 17:26 |
| Entropy512 | or 3G icon | 17:26 |
| an4564 | ok | 17:26 |
| Entropy512 | but as I said - using these devices with data off isn't something heavily tested | 17:27 |
| an4564 | im not sure if this is it but i saw something that looks like a satellite right next to the wifi | 17:27 |
| an4564 | could that be it or ist aht something else? | 17:27 |
| Entropy512 | satellite... that may have been GPS | 17:28 |
| Entropy512 | black dish, with green bars going up and to the right? | 17:28 |
| an4564 | i think it was black but yes | 17:28 |
| Entropy512 | that was GPS | 17:28 |
| an4564 | ok | 17:29 |
| an4564 | does it use data too or my wifi right now? | 17:29 |
| Entropy512 | GPS shouldn't directly use data at all | 17:29 |
| Entropy512 | maps will use wifi or data tho | 17:29 |
| Entropy512 | I have to go | 17:29 |
| an4564 | ok | 17:30 |
| an4564 | thanks | 17:30 |
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| diamondrene | thanks | 17:40 |
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| an4564 | does any know how i can get my music and pictures from my sd card to work on android? | 18:09 |
| arrrghhh | format your SD card | 18:13 |
| arrrghhh | using the HP tool | 18:13 |
| arrrghhh | full format | 18:13 |
| arrrghhh | FAT32 | 18:13 |
| an4564 | wont it stop running if i format the sd card? | 18:13 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 18:14 |
| arrrghhh | you'll have to boot into winmo | 18:14 |
| arrrghhh | plug in the phone or pull the card | 18:14 |
| arrrghhh | format the card (backup the card's data or start over fresh, either way) | 18:14 |
| arrrghhh | full, fat32 | 18:14 |
| an4564 | i already formated it to fat32 before i installed andriod tho | 18:14 |
| arrrghhh | start over, restore data, boot. | 18:14 |
| an4564 | ok ill try it | 18:15 |
| arrrghhh | please | 18:15 |
| arrrghhh | the format utilites in windows and winmo are broken. | 18:16 |
| arrrghhh | utilities | 18:16 |
| an4564 | so wat do i use to format it if those arent good? | 18:16 |
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| an4564 | HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool will work? | 18:18 |
| arrrghhh | yes that's the one | 18:19 |
| an4564 | ok | 18:19 |
| an4564 | formating right now | 18:20 |
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| an4564 | its taking awhile | 18:24 |
| an4564 | should i have use quick format? | 18:24 |
| arrrghhh | i said full | 18:24 |
| arrrghhh | ^^ | 18:24 |
| an4564 | oh | 18:24 |
| an4564 | haha ok | 18:24 |
| an4564 | just wondering wat is the latest version of andriod that u guys have right now to download? | 18:30 |
| an4564 | i think im using an older one | 18:30 |
| arrrghhh | FRX06 | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | there's a lot of testing pieces out there too | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | all different sorts | 18:32 |
| an4564 | hmm i downloaded FRX06 | 18:32 |
| an4564 | a few days go | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 18:32 |
| an4564 | but it doesnt run | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | ? | 18:33 |
| an4564 | i think the one i downloaded is missing the start file | 18:33 |
| an4564 | startup* | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | in the thread it tells you to grab the startup file | 18:34 |
| arrrghhh | from the STARTUPS folder | 18:34 |
| an4564 | oh i see | 18:35 |
| an4564 | which one is the touch pro 2? | 18:35 |
| Tynictansol | Since it's different for various models of device. | 18:35 |
| an4564 | RAPH? | 18:35 |
| Tynictansol | Rhod. | 18:35 |
| an4564 | i see | 18:35 |
| arrrghhh | read the faq | 18:35 |
| arrrghhh | it shows you how to find out which phone you have | 18:35 |
| an4564 | ill try i after the install | 18:35 |
| arrrghhh | and everything... | 18:35 |
| arrrghhh | lots of questions answered thar | 18:36 |
| an4564 | ok | 18:36 |
| an4564 | sorry | 18:36 |
| an4564 | i didnt see the faq | 18:36 |
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| an4564 | so sinc ei have the AT&T one which is the tilt2 i would opent eh RHOD300_tilit2? | 18:37 |
| Tynictansol | That sounds right since it says tilt, but looking under your battery or on the recovery screen it'll tell you. | 18:38 |
| an4564 | ok ill have to wait until its done formating to check | 18:40 |
| Tynictansol | http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1913&c=at_t_htc_tilt2_t7377_htc_rhodium | 18:40 |
| Tynictansol | That your phone? | 18:40 |
| an4564 | yes | 18:41 |
| Tynictansol | Looks like 300 | 18:41 |
| an4564 | ok thanks | 18:41 |
| an4564 | so i jsut move teh statup to where the haret is and it should work? | 18:42 |
| Tynictansol | The .txt, yes. | 18:42 |
| an4564 | ok | 18:42 |
| Tynictansol | Is Haret and all of the other assorted files at the root of your sd card? | 18:43 |
| Tynictansol | And do you have the ts_calibration file in there, too? | 18:43 |
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| an4564 | no i dont think i do | 18:43 |
| an4564 | how do i find that? | 18:43 |
| Tynictansol | It ought to be at the bottom of the post you found the rest of the files at. | 18:45 |
| Tynictansol | Hit ctrl-F in your web browser on the tab and type ts. | 18:45 |
| an4564 | ok wat do i do after? | 18:47 |
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| an4564 | no i dont have the ts_calibration file | 18:52 |
| an4564 | how do i get it? | 18:53 |
| Tynictansol | http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/attachments/android-tp2-development/82622d1300282141-build-complete-froyo-bundle-frx06-stable-minor-fixes-ts-calibration.zip | 18:55 |
| Tynictansol | http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/android-tp2-development/140848-build-complete-froyo-bundle-frx06-stable-minor-fixes.html You read this first post, yeah? ;> | 18:55 |
| Tynictansol | I imagine this is your first foray into using Android on the TP2? | 18:57 |
| an4564 | yes | 18:58 |
| an4564 | it is | 18:58 |
| Tynictansol | You done much flashing of the phone with different custom roms at all? | 18:58 |
| an4564 | nope this is the first | 18:58 |
| an4564 | it say i do not have permission to access the page | 18:59 |
| Tynictansol | Well hopefully you'll be up and running pretty soon. Unzip that ts_calibration zip file and put its content into the root of... Which link, I apologize I put both back to back in the chat. | 18:59 |
| Tynictansol | Click the second one, and go to the bottom of Arrrghhh's first post. | 19:00 |
| an4564 | the firs link doesnt work for me | 19:00 |
| an4564 | ok | 19:00 |
| Tynictansol | Do you know what I mean when I say root of your sd card? | 19:01 |
| Tynictansol | Just as a general question relating to all of the rest of this. | 19:01 |
| an4564 | yes | 19:01 |
| Tynictansol | k | 19:01 |
| an4564 | ok so do i download the first or the sec ots file? | 19:03 |
| an4564 | ts* | 19:03 |
| Tynictansol | First. | 19:03 |
| Tynictansol | Blac.zip is for people using the Blackstone, unless I'm mistaken, which is the Touch HD. | 19:04 |
| an4564 | it says i dont have permission when i try to download it | 19:04 |
| Tynictansol | Mm. Are you logged into the forums...? I don't know if that's necessary but... | 19:04 |
| an4564 | yes i am but i just made the account a few mins ago | 19:05 |
| Tynictansol | One moment. | 19:07 |
| an4564 | ok | 19:07 |
| Tynictansol | Sorry all, moved our discuss to an individual chat so as not to get in everyone else's discussion. | 19:14 |
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| laptop_user | does anyone know which network the #neopeek room is on? | 21:09 |
| laptop_user | i tried freenode but i doubt that is the right place | 21:09 |
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| Entropy512 | I think I finally figured out how tiad8 got the new market to work | 22:15 |
| Entropy512 | he found a complete gapps package that had an update market with the same certs as his updated market apk | 22:15 |
| Entropy512 | no clue where | 22:15 |
| Entropy512 | everyone posts new market APKs but never posts the matching gapps package... ffs | 22:15 |
| D3tul3 | java is stupid | 22:17 |
| D3tul3 | wow i just wasted a whole day trying to add "mark all as read" functionality to the android e-mail client | 22:18 |
| D3tul3 | pretty anticlimactic | 22:18 |
| Entropy512 | java makes me want to facestab myself | 22:19 |
| Entropy512 | dammit Android gapps signing is black voodoo magic | 22:19 |
| Entropy512 | why the fuck can't anyone post a market signed with the same certs as the Cyanogenmod gapps package? | 22:20 |
| D3tul3 | i actually can't believe this works, i have never touched java in my life, dustin' my shoulders off | 22:20 |
| Entropy512 | and how do they expect markets with nonmatching certs to work at all? | 22:20 |
| D3tul3 | you're on a mission with this new market | 22:21 |
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| Entropy512 | yeah | 22:23 |
| Entropy512 | because I think the new market MIGHT fix the fact that market downloads are insanely slow | 22:24 |
| Entropy512 | I've realized it isn't a fundamental SD card problem - installing APKs over ADB is wicked fast | 22:24 |
| Entropy512 | same for installing from Titanium Backup | 22:24 |
| Entropy512 | and in one rare case | 22:24 |
| Entropy512 | I did get to do one download with the new market and it was fast | 22:24 |
| Entropy512 | it appears, although I can't be sure, that all of the gapps APKs need to be signed with testkeys | 22:26 |
| Entropy512 | and then all of these various shiny new markets will work | 22:26 |
| D3tul3 | if i understand the who's who in the xdandroid dev tree, sounds like steinbd could be of assistance | 22:27 |
| Entropy512 | maybe | 22:29 |
| Entropy512 | but I think he may only copy gapps from the package and not mess with signing | 22:30 |
| Entropy512 | don't blame him | 22:31 |
| Entropy512 | fucking with gapps is massively time consuming | 22:31 |
| Entropy512 | I think I may have figured out the trick though - gotta take a bunch of stuff from gapps-hdpi-20101114.zip and resign them with testkeys | 22:36 |
| Entropy512 | then it'll match the keys of all these various random markets | 22:36 |
| Entropy512 | which are all signed by testkeys | 22:36 |
| Entropy512 | this is one of the few things I miss about Windows Mobile | 22:43 |
| Entropy512 | "this shit ain't signed, proceed at your own risk - do you wish to proceed?" | 22:43 |
| Entropy512 | vs Android" | 22:43 |
| Entropy512 | "this shit ain't signed - go f yourself" | 22:43 |
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