ryannathans | ROFL someone has a sense of humour: "git - the stupid content tracker | 00:00 |
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ryannathans | are there any branches off froyo? | 00:04 |
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Entropy512 | nn all | 00:05 |
ryannathans | night | 00:06 |
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ryannathans | stinebd: did you see the fix I posted? Hyc and I fixed the freeze on boot issue permanently. | 00:18 |
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ryannathans | where can i get the latest market? | 00:30 |
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ryannathans | SUCCESS | 02:42 |
ryannathans | merged latest market into froyo and got it to work :D | 02:42 |
ryannathans | how do i remove the camera app from frx06 before i build it | 02:59 |
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raf_ | stinebd: http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Version_FRX06 says "FRX05". I assume that should say FRX06.. that that was a copy-paste-o. (I'm not changing it myself only because I wrote the initial page as FRX06, and I give you the benefit of the doubt.) | 03:43 |
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ryannathans | how do I include precompiled apps (.apk) in my build? All my previous attempts have failed, replacing Vendor.apk was successful but it is because an old version existed. | 04:32 |
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Jannick | Oh hello there | 05:11 |
ryannathans | hey | 05:12 |
Jannick | I'm having problems with my Topaz and the newest FRX06. | 05:13 |
Jannick | When I got a call, and I accept it, i don't hear anything | 05:13 |
Jannick | When I'm cancel the call, it's still active and my phone freezes | 05:14 |
Jannick | I'm wondering if someone here could help me :) | 05:15 |
ryannathans | are you able to hear the other person? | 05:19 |
ryannathans | oh | 05:19 |
ryannathans | is the issue present when you use frx05? | 05:19 |
Jannick | Nope | 05:34 |
Jannick | Sorry for the late response | 05:34 |
Jannick | I got the problem after updating to the new kernel | 05:35 |
ryannathans | kernel or build? | 05:37 |
ryannathans | frx05 -> frx06 is the build | 05:37 |
Jannick | Ah, well, the htc-msm-linux-20110317-184049-package.tar.bz2 unpacken | 05:38 |
Jannick | unpacked | 05:38 |
ryannathans | have you used that kernel with frx05? | 05:39 |
Jannick | Nope | 05:39 |
ryannathans | so you upgraded kernel and build at same time? | 05:39 |
Jannick | Yup... | 05:40 |
ryannathans | sweet, what kernel were you using before? | 05:40 |
Jannick | ehm... | 05:41 |
Jannick | The one before the last... | 05:41 |
Jannick | Or, ehm... 20110228_202832 i think | 05:41 |
ryannathans | okay, we need to see if it is the kernel or build, test with that kernel | 05:41 |
ryannathans | gsm or cdma, also, what model is your phone? | 05:42 |
Jannick | GSM | 05:42 |
ryannathans | what phone? | 05:42 |
Jannick | Topa100 | 05:42 |
Jannick | HTC Touch Diamond 2 | 05:42 |
Jannick | Or whatever you can call it :) | 05:42 |
ryannathans | okay | 05:43 |
ryannathans | go back to previous kernel and test again | 05:43 |
Jannick | I'm rebooting the phone in winmo to change the kernel | 05:43 |
Jannick | The 20110228_202832? | 05:43 |
ryannathans | change it to what you were using when it worked | 05:43 |
ryannathans | what rootfs are you using? | 05:44 |
Jannick | I'm not sure which one, it's last modified on 24-2-2011 | 05:46 |
ryannathans | was it F22's or the one on the autobuild site? | 05:47 |
Jannick | What's F22? | 05:47 |
ryannathans | a person that made a custom rootfs that fixes and allows you to use all the FN symbols | 05:48 |
Jannick | Ah, no | 05:48 |
Jannick | I used the glemsom build | 05:48 |
Jannick | Re-unpacking the kernel... | 05:49 |
Jannick | Can I check when I'm in Android which kernel is the actual one? | 05:51 |
ryannathans | you can find out what one you are using | 05:51 |
ryannathans | have you booted? | 05:53 |
Jannick | Yup, trying to make a call | 05:54 |
ryannathans | settings > about phone > kernel version | 05:54 |
Jannick | No problem :) | 05:55 |
ryannathans | so it works? | 05:55 |
Jannick | Yup | 05:55 |
Jannick | ]Kernel version 2.6.27.46-01276 -g6 etc | 05:55 |
Jannick | Build-number is FRX05 | 05:56 |
ryannathans | thought you were on 06? | 05:56 |
Jannick | I thought the same... | 05:57 |
Jannick | Wha tthe... | 05:57 |
ryannathans | ? | 05:57 |
Jannick | I'll be back in half an hour, got to go | 05:57 |
ryannathans | okay, cya then | 05:57 |
Jannick | Ok :) | 05:58 |
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ryannathans | hyc: are you there? | 06:06 |
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Jannick | And there I am again, will be there in about 5 minutes | 06:39 |
ryannathans | ? | 06:39 |
ryannathans | g2g be on later | 06:42 |
Jannick | OK :) | 06:42 |
Jannick | I'll try FRX06 | 06:42 |
ryannathans | back | 06:51 |
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ryannathans | anyone active? | 07:38 |
xdandroid | New XDAndroid Releases bug 123 filed... | 07:43 |
xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=123 major, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, speakerphone not working FRX06 | 07:43 |
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ryannathans | ^^ i didn't know speakerphone files were changed =/ | 07:58 |
Entropy512 | hmm | 08:00 |
Entropy512 | fairly certain speakerphone works | 08:00 |
Entropy512 | hold on | 08:00 |
Entropy512 | yup, works fine for me | 08:01 |
Entropy512 | gonna read bugreport | 08:01 |
ryannathans | its for DIAM | 08:01 |
ryannathans | cdma | 08:01 |
Entropy512 | ah | 08:02 |
ryannathans | I am having a few problems including prebuild apks in my build, I added it and make the Android.mk but It says you should add this to core.mk | 08:02 |
ryannathans | sigh | 08:02 |
Entropy512 | I'm still going to post a bit. | 08:03 |
Entropy512 | hmm, look at how it's done for gapps? | 08:04 |
ryannathans | touche, i was following android.com's cookbook | 08:04 |
midnight | ryan,are you building a new build? | 08:04 |
ryannathans | yes, why? | 08:04 |
midnight | just asking | 08:04 |
ryannathans | I managed to get the 5/4/11 market working | 08:05 |
ryannathans | market | 08:05 |
midnight | i should find a way to make dhcp working in mine | 08:05 |
ryannathans | but I cant add new apks, I can edit old ones though | 08:05 |
ryannathans | what build you usin? | 08:05 |
midnight | my gingercherry,in xda's diamond dev section | 08:05 |
Entropy512 | ryannathans: where did you get 5/4 market and what else from the gapps package did you need to make it work? | 08:06 |
ryannathans | the leak that they had | 08:07 |
ryannathans | i got their new market | 08:07 |
Entropy512 | oh the leaked market | 08:07 |
midnight | what has changed in the leaked market? | 08:07 |
Entropy512 | did you need to do anything other than put it into /system? | 08:07 |
Entropy512 | er | 08:07 |
Entropy512 | /system/app? | 08:07 |
midnight | i think something in /etc | 08:08 |
ryannathans | don't know, only looked at it for a second to make sure that it worked, all i did was replace the Vender.apk or whatever it is before i compiled | 08:08 |
Entropy512 | ok, so you did it before building the system | 08:08 |
ryannathans | yes | 08:08 |
Entropy512 | did you wipe data when you started using the new build? | 08:08 |
ryannathans | yes | 08:09 |
ryannathans | new data.img | 08:09 |
ryannathans | if thats what you mean | 08:09 |
midnight | oh,it's a looop system build | 08:09 |
Entropy512 | hmm maybe I'll have to wipe data tonight if I want market shinyness | 08:09 |
Entropy512 | yup | 08:09 |
ryannathans | is partitioned sd card faster than loop? | 08:09 |
midnight | for me yes | 08:09 |
ryannathans | i know how to partition it, is there a guide? | 08:10 |
midnight | to make partition builds? | 08:10 |
ryannathans | yes | 08:10 |
midnight | simply try with a androidinstall.tar.gz,delete system folder in it,and put your system folder extracted from loop | 08:11 |
ryannathans | hmm | 08:11 |
midnight | but this is giving arrrghhh problems,because he's trying with cm7,and neopeek has changed something in rootfs... | 08:12 |
ryannathans | to add prebuilt apks, do i need to edit | 08:12 |
Entropy512 | the rootfs we use in xdandroid supports both looped and partitioned | 08:12 |
ryannathans | device_msm-vendor-blobs.mk? | 08:12 |
ryannathans | hmm okay | 08:12 |
Entropy512 | not sure about that | 08:12 |
Entropy512 | my trick for partitioning: | 08:13 |
midnight | entropy,you have to edit init | 08:13 |
ryannathans | i have been playing all day to get prebuild apks to work | 08:13 |
Entropy512 | midnight: not with our rootfs | 08:13 |
Entropy512 | it autodetects | 08:13 |
midnight | new rootfs autodetects for partitions? | 08:13 |
Entropy512 | e.g. the one included with FRX bundles | 08:13 |
ryannathans | how many partitions and of what kind? | 08:13 |
midnight | 2 partitions,1 ext2 and 1 fat32 | 08:13 |
Entropy512 | partition 1 is still FAT | 08:13 |
Entropy512 | partition 3 is ext2 (system) | 08:14 |
Entropy512 | partition 4 is ext2 (data) | 08:14 |
Entropy512 | partition 2 is unused | 08:14 |
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ryannathans | what sizes? | 08:14 |
arrrghhh | Entropy512, you go to cornell? | 08:14 |
Entropy512 | arrrghhh: graduated 2002 | 08:14 |
midnight | entropy,my internal storage has 2 partitions,1 fat 32 3 gb and 1 ext2 700 mb | 08:14 |
arrrghhh | Entropy512, nice! i didn't know that ;) | 08:14 |
Entropy512 | live nearby and have season tickets to hockey | 08:15 |
Entropy512 | :) | 08:15 |
arrrghhh | hehe awesome | 08:15 |
midnight | hi arrrghhh | 08:15 |
ryannathans | arrrghhh do you know how to add prebuilt apks before compiling? | 08:15 |
arrrghhh | what's up | 08:15 |
arrrghhh | ryannathans, to /system/app | 08:15 |
arrrghhh | if you want to burn them into the ROM basically | 08:15 |
ryannathans | yes | 08:15 |
arrrghhh | i wouldn't recommend it tho | 08:15 |
Entropy512 | as far as partition sizes - system partition has to be at least as large as your system.ext2 | 08:15 |
ryannathans | but for one or 2 i want to | 08:15 |
arrrghhh | AndroidApps is much easier, and allows newbs to easily remove | 08:16 |
Entropy512 | I make it 500MB just to have room to grow | 08:16 |
arrrghhh | ryannathans, well do what you want, just don't release it :P | 08:16 |
Entropy512 | but it prolly only needs to be 128 | 08:16 |
ryannathans | but i need to remove the old camera and market, if i use the AndroidApps it wont work | 08:16 |
Entropy512 | I think if you just swap the APKs for old camera and market in the source tree that's all you need | 08:17 |
ryannathans | i have a new camera, market, gallery and music play iwant to add | 08:17 |
Entropy512 | unless one of those requires new support APKs | 08:17 |
arrrghhh | ok i get the new market | 08:17 |
arrrghhh | did you find one that works Entropy512 ? | 08:17 |
arrrghhh | i don't get the new camera app tho, you'll need to explain that | 08:17 |
Entropy512 | I didn't but ryannathans says that the leaked one works if you wipe data | 08:17 |
Entropy512 | gonna try tonight | 08:17 |
arrrghhh | the beta? | 08:17 |
ryannathans | all i did was replace the vendor apk, compile and bam, new market that works | 08:18 |
ryannathans | oh, new data.img too | 08:18 |
arrrghhh | lol works well i hope? :P | 08:18 |
Entropy512 | http://gitorious.org/xdandroid/rootfs/blobs/master/init - midnight, look around line 74 | 08:18 |
arrrghhh | cuz the existing market 'works' | 08:18 |
ryannathans | yes all works | 08:18 |
Entropy512 | you'll see the xdandroid partition autodetect code | 08:18 |
Entropy512 | I'm gonna see if wiping data lets me use the 2.2.7 market which isn't beta but is MUCH newer | 08:18 |
ryannathans | isnt camera and stuff compiled into apks when you compile? | 08:18 |
ryannathans | im using 2.2.11 market | 08:19 |
midnight | Entropy512:but i need 4 partitions? | 08:19 |
arrrghhh | ryannathans, why new cam? | 08:19 |
Entropy512 | midnight: partition 2 is empty | 08:19 |
arrrghhh | midnight, no, you don't. | 08:19 |
Entropy512 | 1 is classic sdcard | 08:19 |
Entropy512 | 3 is system | 08:19 |
Entropy512 | 4 is data | 08:19 |
ryannathans | test it out :P also the current camera crashes after a second | 08:19 |
arrrghhh | ryannathans, not for me | 08:19 |
ryannathans | sigh | 08:19 |
arrrghhh | must be your shitty rhod110 :P | 08:19 |
ryannathans | definately :P | 08:19 |
midnight | instead now i have 1 wm,2 system + data | 08:19 |
midnight | and stop | 08:19 |
ryannathans | i had a user on here before, with the latest kernel no one can hear him talk in a phone call | 08:20 |
midnight | but i need to edit init | 08:20 |
Entropy512 | system + data on same partition? | 08:20 |
arrrghhh | midnight, yea that's how neopeek does it. but why not a separate partition for data? makes sense to me. | 08:20 |
ryannathans | but 2.6.27.46-01276 works for him | 08:20 |
Entropy512 | that's... oddd... | 08:20 |
midnight | Entropy512:if you use neopeek way,2 partitions | 08:20 |
Entropy512 | makes it hard to keep system RO and data RW in normal operation | 08:20 |
arrrghhh | jb is messing a lot with audio routing. | 08:20 |
arrrghhh | newest kernel is borked, i don't recommend anyone use it. | 08:20 |
ryannathans | thats what i told him :P | 08:20 |
midnight | if you use xdandroid way,not tried by me,4 partitions | 08:21 |
ryannathans | so he is all good now | 08:21 |
arrrghhh | Entropy512, the whole thing is rw afaik. | 08:21 |
midnight | but not newb-friendly | 08:21 |
arrrghhh | i don't see the need to burn 1 part tho. | 08:21 |
arrrghhh | why do you skip 2? lol | 08:21 |
Entropy512 | arrrghhh: system is RO with xdandroid | 08:21 |
midnight | cya | 08:21 |
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arrrghhh | midnight, no, multiple partitions is not :P | 08:21 |
Entropy512 | I have no idea why 2 is skilled | 08:21 |
Entropy512 | skipped | 08:21 |
arrrghhh | Entropy512, as it should be | 08:21 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 08:21 |
arrrghhh | weird | 08:21 |
Entropy512 | imo it should be fixed unless someone knows why it was skipped | 08:21 |
arrrghhh | since it's basically you and one other person doing it :P | 08:22 |
arrrghhh | i'm assuming it was your formatting, nothing with xdandroid | 08:22 |
arrrghhh | unless i'm missing something | 08:22 |
ryannathans | anyway, i want to get prebuild apks working then i will start partitioning my sd | 08:22 |
arrrghhh | ryannathans, i told you how | 08:23 |
ryannathans | do i edit the ext2 after compiling? | 08:23 |
arrrghhh | i guess you can | 08:25 |
ryannathans | how can i do it before? | 08:25 |
arrrghhh | uhm | 08:25 |
arrrghhh | edit the files? | 08:25 |
arrrghhh | what do you mean!?? | 08:25 |
ryannathans | i have been trying too day to get it to compile including a prebuilt .apk | 08:25 |
ryannathans | made the Android.mk but it said to add it to core.mk and that didnt make sense | 08:26 |
ryannathans | i was following android cookbook for adding prebuild apks before compiling | 08:26 |
ryannathans | i never got it to work | 08:26 |
arrrghhh | uhm | 08:26 |
arrrghhh | just add the apk | 08:26 |
arrrghhh | perhaps it is easier after it's built | 08:26 |
ryannathans | after compiling? | 08:26 |
arrrghhh | have you tried? | 08:27 |
ryannathans | not after compiling | 08:27 |
arrrghhh | well at least try before asking quesitons. | 08:28 |
arrrghhh | questions | 08:28 |
ryannathans | oh, to stop the Music apk from being compiled, do i delte the packages/apps/music folder? | 08:28 |
ryannathans | then compile, add the new music apk to the system/apps folder? | 08:29 |
arrrghhh | you can't just remove the apk? | 08:29 |
ryannathans | i want to be able to do it before compiling, but i will try that | 08:29 |
arrrghhh | no just remove the apk and replace. | 08:29 |
ryannathans | i always seem to do it the hard way xD | 08:29 |
arrrghhh | what does it matter | 08:29 |
arrrghhh | yea you do everything the hard way it seems | 08:30 |
ryannathans | bit like you aye? ;) | 08:30 |
arrrghhh | actually i try to find ways to do things better | 08:30 |
arrrghhh | in everything, at work in my personal life. i like to think i do things the easy way, work smarter not harder. | 08:30 |
ryannathans | the only problem this way is that after a new compile i have to make changes again and again..... | 08:31 |
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arrrghhh | lol | 08:32 |
Entropy512 | ryannathans: I have to do that all the time with my build.prop tweaks and bash. :( | 08:32 |
Entropy512 | used to it | 08:32 |
ryannathans | :P | 08:32 |
arrrghhh | i just end up bind mounting modded build.prop's | 08:33 |
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arrrghhh | works pretty weel | 08:33 |
arrrghhh | well* | 08:33 |
arrrghhh | but ofc that's just temporary, intentionally so. | 08:33 |
xtremist_ | arrrghhh when u releasing new ginger wth full 3d ? | 08:34 |
arrrghhh | hw3d works | 08:34 |
xtremist_ | actually neocore messess | 08:34 |
arrrghhh | neocore is the only thing that's FUBAR AFAIK | 08:34 |
xtremist_ | yeahh | 08:34 |
arrrghhh | yea ^^ | 08:34 |
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arrrghhh | i'm pretty sure neocore isn't a big deal... not exactly mission-critical. | 08:35 |
ryannathans | does 3d work better on gb or froyo | 08:35 |
Entropy512 | It appears that neocore can be fixed if you take all the 3D-related stuff from froyo and throw it into GB | 08:35 |
xtremist_ | yeahh hey whts the progress on nand | 08:35 |
arrrghhh | Entropy512, yea i saw that. | 08:35 |
arrrghhh | xtremist_, on diam? non-existant. | 08:35 |
xtremist_ | well i think i tried armv9 error came up | 08:35 |
xtremist_ | nope ralph | 08:35 |
arrrghhh | same | 08:36 |
arrrghhh | raph | 08:36 |
xtremist_ | ?? | 08:36 |
xtremist_ | some got it booted | 08:36 |
arrrghhh | ryannathans, you do like to ask silly questions. | 08:36 |
Entropy512 | but I don't think stinebd wands to put out mutant hybrid releases | 08:36 |
xtremist_ | finally | 08:36 |
xtremist_ | well u didnt read neopeek | 08:36 |
arrrghhh | xtremist_, i haven't seen any progress on raph | 08:36 |
arrrghhh | if you know progress, why the fuck are you asking me about progress | 08:36 |
ryannathans | I have never looked/tried/tested 3d | 08:36 |
xtremist_ | i think u should visit neopeek | 08:36 |
arrrghhh | ryannathans, which makes the question even sillier. | 08:36 |
arrrghhh | xtremist_, that's nice, i do. | 08:36 |
Entropy512 | ryannathans: it's semi-broken in GB | 08:36 |
arrrghhh | i don't read every single thread, sorry. | 08:37 |
xtremist_ | http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjUyMjI0ODg4.html | 08:37 |
ryannathans | thanks | 08:37 |
arrrghhh | Entropy512, exactly, he's not going to just pull libs from froyo... that's childish. | 08:37 |
xtremist_ | this is the video of raplh booting from nand | 08:37 |
arrrghhh | xtremist_, ok...? | 08:37 |
ryannathans | is hyc's ril rhod specific? | 08:37 |
arrrghhh | so why are you asking me about progress when you seem to know more than i | 08:37 |
Entropy512 | would be nice to figure out what in GB broke things | 08:37 |
arrrghhh | i have a rhod, not a raph. i can't follow every single old device. | 08:37 |
xtremist_ | well i thought u should knw more then me | 08:37 |
Entropy512 | ryannathans: good question - only tested on rhod but might work on other platforms | 08:37 |
arrrghhh | ryannathans, shouldn't be | 08:37 |
arrrghhh | xtremist_, thanks? | 08:38 |
Entropy512 | I think RIL doesn't change much from device to device | 08:38 |
ryannathans | arrrghhh: so it is safe to tell and xdandroid user to try it? | 08:38 |
xtremist_ | well as far u talking about libs i did that buh ginger gave me error of armv9 | 08:38 |
xtremist_ | nope | 08:38 |
xtremist_ | well | 08:38 |
arrrghhh | ryannathans, uhm... i wouldn't | 08:38 |
arrrghhh | without caution | 08:38 |
xtremist_ | there no link available yet | 08:38 |
ryannathans | oh, add that freeze on boot issue to your faq for touch pro 2 ;) | 08:38 |
xtremist_ | its still under develpment well that guy also doing something on diamond | 08:38 |
ryannathans | link to my fix thread | 08:39 |
arrrghhh | ryannathans, nah we'll just wait to integrate it. | 08:39 |
arrrghhh | no point in making newbs do more hodge podge work. | 08:39 |
arrrghhh | do you even have all the binaries on your thread? | 08:39 |
ryannathans | yes | 08:39 |
ryannathans | im pretty sure | 08:40 |
arrrghhh | lmao | 08:40 |
ryannathans | why? | 08:40 |
arrrghhh | you make my brain hurt. with that, i'm off to work. | 08:40 |
arrrghhh | ryannathans, really!??!! | 08:40 |
arrrghhh | you really don't know why | 08:40 |
ryannathans | rootfs and the ril? | 08:40 |
arrrghhh | you expect newbs to shove source into the rootfs themselves? | 08:40 |
ryannathans | no... | 08:40 |
ryannathans | its an edited rootfs | 08:41 |
arrrghhh | that's why i was asking about binaries. | 08:41 |
arrrghhh | ok i didn't know if you included just source or source+binary | 08:41 |
arrrghhh | hence the reason i asked... | 08:41 |
arrrghhh | damnit. stupid widgets. | 08:41 |
ryannathans | source is there only for devs if they want to see it | 08:41 |
arrrghhh | yes, that's usually what source is used for... | 08:42 |
ryannathans | i have the edited rootfs for users to download and replace theirs, and the ril and instructions how to mount it, even a copy+pasteable user.conf file | 08:42 |
arrrghhh | cool. all you had to say was yes | 08:42 |
ryannathans | userfriendly ;) | 08:42 |
ryannathans | i said yes | 08:43 |
arrrghhh | didn't have to go thru all that. | 08:43 |
ryannathans | i wasnt quite so sure what you ment ;) | 08:43 |
arrrghhh | you said "yes... i'm pretty sure... why?" | 08:43 |
ryannathans | oh were on the same track now :D | 08:43 |
arrrghhh | sometimes | 08:43 |
arrrghhh | if i could shake you via tcp/ip | 08:43 |
ryannathans | hah yeah | 08:43 |
arrrghhh | i'd shake you so violently! | 08:43 |
* ryannathans dies like an infant | 08:44 | |
ryannathans | xD | 08:44 |
Entropy512 | ok time to go to work | 08:44 |
arrrghhh | lol creepy | 08:44 |
arrrghhh | i need to go to work, peace | 08:45 |
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ryannathans | woot, i found out im getting a free laptop next week | 08:45 |
ryannathans | mounted the ext2, working on it now | 08:46 |
ryannathans | oh wow | 08:48 |
ryannathans | after ALL THIS EFFORT | 08:48 |
ryannathans | the apks are there after compiling :d | 08:49 |
ryannathans | WOOT | 08:49 |
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ryannathans | this makes no sense, all i did was add them to vendor/xdandroid/msm/proprietory/ and it works?! | 08:54 |
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Detule | ryannathans: hope you don't mind a personal question, but how old are you? | 09:03 |
ryannathans | how does it matter? | 09:05 |
Detule | oh about 90% of the #xdandroid line over the last week or so have come from you, I just wante dto know a little bit more | 09:06 |
Detule | ....you sound...young | 09:06 |
ryannathans | haha xD | 09:06 |
ryannathans | year 10, already taking university grade subjects in all my computer orientated courses including sql and php which is my main area | 09:08 |
ryannathans | i wanted to start taking up c and java so i decided i would start with android | 09:08 |
ryannathans | tied in well because i was sick of winmo on my rhodium | 09:09 |
Detule | year 10, so that would translate to 2nd year of high school? | 09:09 |
ryannathans | 4th year of high school | 09:09 |
ryannathans | i graduate in 2 years | 09:09 |
Detule | high school in your part of the world seems to be organized differently than in north america....but that's ok, i had you pegged at around 16-17 | 09:10 |
ryannathans | im in Western Australia :) | 09:10 |
ryannathans | our system goes years 1-6 in primary school then 7-12 in high school | 09:13 |
ryannathans | i am a bit clueless with unix systems | 09:17 |
ryannathans | :P getting there | 09:17 |
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Jannick | Hello there, I'm back | 09:21 |
ryannathans | hi | 09:21 |
Jannick | I updated all now | 09:22 |
Jannick | *files* | 09:22 |
ryannathans | what kernel you on? | 09:22 |
Jannick | The system.ext, rootfs and the kernel | 09:22 |
ryannathans | are you using the kernel that works? | 09:22 |
Jannick | 2.6.28.46-01289-gbe88ef6 | 09:22 |
Jannick | Nope | 09:22 |
Jannick | 2.6.27.--- | 09:23 |
ryannathans | okay, want it fixed now? | 09:23 |
Jannick | It is fixed :) | 09:23 |
Jannick | I tried calling someone, and it worked immediately | 09:24 |
ryannathans | so you updated everything to latest and it works? | 09:24 |
Jannick | Yup | 09:24 |
ryannathans | okay, the latest kernel is stuffed | 09:24 |
ryannathans | battery life is poor | 09:24 |
ryannathans | and there are other issues | 09:24 |
Jannick | Hmm.. | 09:24 |
ryannathans | is your device a rhod? | 09:24 |
Jannick | I don't know... It's a HTC diamond 2 / topa100 | 09:25 |
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ryannathans | okay, topa100 | 09:25 |
ryannathans | give me a minute | 09:25 |
ryannathans | sure it is diamond 2? | 09:26 |
Jannick | I bought an 2600 mah battery from ebay about 2 weeks ago, and it's batterylife is already poor... | 09:26 |
Jannick | yup | 09:26 |
ryannathans | the latest kernel has poor battery life, nothing to do with the battery | 09:26 |
ryannathans | im looking for some test kernels for you | 09:27 |
Jannick | Ok :) | 09:27 |
ryannathans | are you nand or running from SD? | 09:27 |
Jannick | SD | 09:28 |
Jannick | Is nand supported? | 09:28 |
ryannathans | some people have it working, i wouldn't reccomend it | 09:29 |
ryannathans | i dont see any public test kernels | 09:29 |
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Jannick | Hmm | 09:30 |
ryannathans | have you used htc-msm-linux @ 20110316_191440? | 09:30 |
Jannick | Nope | 09:30 |
Jannick | I got directly from ryannathans 20110228 to 20110317 | 09:31 |
Jannick | Why is your name in it? Well, awkward | 09:31 |
ryannathans | lol, dont use the 17 | 09:31 |
ryannathans | use a previous one, if that 28 works fine for you, use that until a new one is released | 09:32 |
Jannick | Should I change? | 09:32 |
Jannick | Ok :) | 09:32 |
ryannathans | that 17 chews my fully charged battery in like 6 hours in sleep alone, its terrible | 09:33 |
Jannick | Holy crap | 09:33 |
ryannathans | im using some testing kernel until a new stable is released, much much much better battery life | 09:33 |
Jannick | Oh, and GPS isn't working in 17 | 09:34 |
ryannathans | u using froyo? | 09:34 |
Jannick | Ok :) What telephone do you have? | 09:34 |
Jannick | Yup, 2.2.2 | 09:34 |
ryannathans | Touch Pro 2 (rhod110) | 09:34 |
Jannick | ok | 09:34 |
ryannathans | does your gps work in the 28? | 09:35 |
Jannick | Yup | 09:35 |
Jannick | But the 3G-location service works fine in 17 | 09:36 |
ryannathans | does it work in 28? | 09:36 |
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Jannick | Yes | 09:37 |
ryannathans | anything not working in 28? | 09:37 |
Jannick | the 3g location? | 09:37 |
Jannick | Hmm.. | 09:37 |
Jannick | Anything.. I don't know about wifi and bluetooth because I do not use that | 09:37 |
ryannathans | okay, as long as it works for you :) | 09:38 |
Jannick | Booting in .28 | 09:38 |
Jannick | Oh, and I had the problem with the 17 that i could not see the calibration points | 09:38 |
ryannathans | on your first boot did you have a freeze? First boot as in first boot from whenever you make a new data.img | 09:38 |
Jannick | I don't make a new data.img... | 09:39 |
Jannick | *didn't in the last few weeks | 09:39 |
ryannathans | but whenever you do, do you get a freeze on first boot? | 09:40 |
Jannick | Yup | 09:40 |
ryannathans | ahh, i have a fix for that, when you change your APN does it get fixed? | 09:40 |
Jannick | APN>? | 09:41 |
ryannathans | access point name | 09:41 |
ryannathans | in network settings, your provider | 09:41 |
Jannick | I only have one.. | 09:41 |
ryannathans | so how do you fix the freeze? | 09:42 |
Jannick | Rebooting | 09:42 |
ryannathans | and then its all good and gone? | 09:42 |
Jannick | My calibration was so bad, I'm restarting now | 09:42 |
Jannick | Yup | 09:42 |
ryannathans | hmm okay | 09:42 |
Jannick | And booting again | 09:43 |
ryannathans | why don't you save your calibration file? | 09:43 |
ryannathans | and not ever delete it? | 09:43 |
Jannick | It was a mistake.. dumb me | 09:44 |
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Jannick | Well, everything is working, I'll be back in a few days to report how my battery is | 09:56 |
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ryannathans | bye | 10:00 |
Jannick | Bye :) | 10:00 |
ryannathans | have fun ;) | 10:00 |
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ryannathans | hey arrrghhh | 10:01 |
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IsraOtz | Hy...!!! I need som help here... | 10:01 |
arrrghhh | hi | 10:01 |
arrrghhh | IsraOtz, just ask | 10:02 |
arrrghhh | don't ask to ask | 10:02 |
ryannathans | ^^ this :) | 10:02 |
IsraOtz | I will try xandroir on my phone | 10:02 |
arrrghhh | sounds kinky | 10:02 |
ryannathans | arrrghhh: didn't you go to work? | 10:02 |
arrrghhh | like some noir film | 10:02 |
* arrrghhh is at work | 10:02 | |
IsraOtz | but my HTC HD is judt a copy (Chinesse) | 10:02 |
IsraOtz | Can I Try anywere?? | 10:03 |
arrrghhh | touch HD? is that the blackstone? | 10:03 |
arrrghhh | what do you mean just a copy | 10:03 |
arrrghhh | so it's not the real blackstone? | 10:03 |
arrrghhh | lol | 10:03 |
ryannathans | its not legit? | 10:03 |
IsraOtz | "anyway" (sorry) | 10:03 |
arrrghhh | ? | 10:03 |
IsraOtz | no is not... | 10:03 |
arrrghhh | you can't expect us to support Chinese knockoffs | 10:03 |
arrrghhh | we struggle to support all of the official devices | 10:04 |
rpierce99 | there's a chance, if they actually used the same hardware, but i doubt very much that they did, but it doesn't hurt to try it, just don't expect us to help when it doesn't work | 10:04 |
arrrghhh | lol | 10:04 |
arrrghhh | yea you would've been better lying. :P | 10:04 |
IsraOtz | Yes, I was thinking the same... I dont know "the minimal requirements" for xandroid... | 10:04 |
rpierce99 | there's no "minimal requirements" you either have the hardware or you don't | 10:05 |
ryannathans | do you know the specs of your 'import'? | 10:05 |
IsraOtz | I just can say that this phone its runnin wm6.5 preety well | 10:05 |
rpierce99 | our kernel is made to run on very specific models of processor, wireless card, etc | 10:05 |
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IsraOtz | I see... so may be it will be a hopelees cruzade for me to try Android on my Phone... | 10:06 |
arrrghhh | did you even try it? | 10:06 |
arrrghhh | or are you pulling a ryannathans | 10:06 |
IsraOtz | Not yet... I was on it...:) | 10:07 |
arrrghhh | where you ask 15,000 questions before you even attempt | 10:07 |
rpierce99 | wouldn't exactly describe unpacking a zip file to your sd card, copying a couple of files, and running it, a crusade | 10:07 |
arrrghhh | lmao | 10:07 |
arrrghhh | rpierce99, for some... | 10:07 |
ryannathans | rofl | 10:07 |
* arrrghhh prepares his tiny violin | 10:07 | |
IsraOtz | it is just a mean... | 10:07 |
arrrghhh | shit i dropped it | 10:07 |
IsraOtz | Ja..! | 10:07 |
IsraOtz | Ok, folks... the reason I entered this chat was | 10:08 |
IsraOtz | to know exactly how to install it | 10:08 |
arrrghhh | quit using enter for puncuation | 10:08 |
IsraOtz | because I've downloaded the file | 10:08 |
ryannathans | arrrghhh: turns out i didn't need to edit the ext2, just putting the apks into vendor/xdandroid/msm/proprietary/ (the apks appear in system/apps after compiling) | 10:08 |
arrrghhh | and there's a pretty simple guide on all my threads | 10:08 |
arrrghhh | ryannathans, ok.? | 10:09 |
ryannathans | arrrghhh: would my guide be suitable for him? its that rhod guide but he would need his own startup.txt | 10:09 |
IsraOtz | but when uncompresed there is just one file (system.ext2) | 10:09 |
ryannathans | you need the bundle | 10:09 |
arrrghhh | ryannathans, what are my posts not good enough? | 10:10 |
arrrghhh | IsraOtz, what thread are you reading? | 10:10 |
ryannathans | arrrghhh: i have not seen them :P | 10:10 |
arrrghhh | you've got to be kidding me | 10:10 |
arrrghhh | you've never run an XDAndroid build? | 10:10 |
arrrghhh | or you just never bothered to read how | 10:10 |
IsraOtz | ooooooooooooooook.... I've just reading "http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Installation_Guide" | 10:10 |
IsraOtz | easy, men... ;) | 10:10 |
arrrghhh | that's a little complex | 10:11 |
arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951962 <--- read that IsraOtz | 10:11 |
arrrghhh | not the whole thread, just the first few posts. | 10:11 |
IsraOtz | Thanks in advance...!!! I'll try it and then lets you know... ;) | 10:11 |
IsraOtz | ... reading... | 10:12 |
ryannathans | arrrghhh: ohh that guide, yeh i have seen that | 10:12 |
arrrghhh | ... | 10:13 |
IsraOtz | Ja... you says "not the whole thread, just the first few posts."... and it start sayng "Please read this entire post..."...:D | 10:13 |
arrrghhh | yes | 10:13 |
arrrghhh | as in | 10:13 |
arrrghhh | read all of it | 10:13 |
IsraOtz | okas! You are great folks!... see ya soon | 10:14 |
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arrrghhh | i love how we answered your question ryannathans, yet you still ask it in the forums. bravo. | 10:15 |
ryannathans | what question? | 10:15 |
arrrghhh | Is this ril strictly rhod? If not what devices does this apply to? | 10:15 |
ryannathans | oh | 10:15 |
ryannathans | i posted that ages before i asked | 10:15 |
arrrghhh | stabstabstab | 10:16 |
ryannathans | lol | 10:16 |
ryannathans | anyway, i seem to have the hang of things now, no more noobness :D | 10:18 |
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arrrghhh | yea, i'm sure you're not going to ask any more questions. | 10:19 |
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ryannathans | i will ask questions, i will try to make them logical ;) | 10:20 |
arrrghhh | yea, couldn't you have done that from the beginning tho? | 10:22 |
arrrghhh | emwe, yo | 10:22 |
emwe | hiho arrrghhh | 10:22 |
ryannathans | leaked clock apk doesnt work on froyo (widget works), leaked market works, leaked gallery3d doesnt open (crash), leaked camera doesnt open (crash) but i get the exact same issue with the stock camera, leaked music player works but as soon as you tilt it to horizontal it crashes when trying to display the album art flow | 10:26 |
arrrghhh | sounds awful | 10:27 |
ryannathans | least the epic market works :d | 10:27 |
arrrghhh | does it work better tho? | 10:27 |
arrrghhh | if it works, who cares. our market works, just like poop. | 10:27 |
ryannathans | im still trying to work out which one works better | 10:28 |
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odz | woo made it to 36hrs on a single charge =D | 11:43 |
ryannathans | any use? | 11:46 |
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ryannathans | or was it all sleep? | 11:46 |
odz | 6 2-3min calls about 40~ txt through out that time | 11:47 |
ryannathans | what kernel? | 11:47 |
odz | WisTilt2's latest | 11:47 |
ryannathans | sweet | 11:47 |
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stinebd | arrrghhh: be advised, i've updated the edit link for the latest release on the wiki main page | 13:43 |
stinebd | it now goes to http://xdandroid.com/w/index.php?title=Main_Page/Latest_Release&action=edit | 13:44 |
stinebd | which tells you to edit the templates it includes | 13:44 |
arrrghhh | ah ok | 13:44 |
arrrghhh | thanks man, i was baffled by that :P | 13:44 |
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infotechchick | so who can help me install android on my windows mobile phone? | 14:12 |
infotechchick | I'm like, tempted to buy an Android just to avoid the trouble. | 14:13 |
arrrghhh | so i'm like totally not tempted to help you then | 14:13 |
arrrghhh | a native android device is almost always going to be better than a port. espeically one that's only partially complete. | 14:14 |
infotechchick | I've noticed. | 14:14 |
infotechchick | I installed one, but I couldn't get past the "Add Gmail Account" screen. | 14:15 |
arrrghhh | it's kinda common sense. | 14:15 |
arrrghhh | what build? | 14:15 |
arrrghhh | what phone? | 14:15 |
infotechchick | I can't even count how many times I entered my gmail ino | 14:15 |
infotechchick | *info | 14:15 |
arrrghhh | ^^^^ | 14:15 |
infotechchick | HTC TOuch Pro 2 | 14:15 |
arrrghhh | ok | 14:15 |
infotechchick | Love the phone, but Windows Mobile is so annoying | 14:16 |
arrrghhh | you didn't answer my other question | 14:16 |
arrrghhh | what build were you trying | 14:16 |
infotechchick | Oh, hold on, let me look. | 14:16 |
infotechchick | 2.0.1 Eclair | 14:17 |
infotechchick | I tried installing the HTC Sense UI before that, but the HaRET file wasn't loading. | 14:18 |
arrrghhh | good god | 14:18 |
arrrghhh | why so ancient? | 14:18 |
* arrrghhh recommends FRX06 | 14:18 | |
arrrghhh | C:\Documents and Settings\cucm\Desktop\CUCM Logs\10.0.23.1 | 14:18 |
arrrghhh | er shit | 14:18 |
arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951962 | 14:18 |
arrrghhh | damn clipboard :P | 14:19 |
infotechchick | I said the same thing haha, but it was the only one that actually loaded something... the rest didn't do anything. | 14:19 |
arrrghhh | read the first few posts of that build | 14:20 |
arrrghhh | er thread | 14:20 |
infotechchick | Hahaha, thanks... | 14:20 |
hyc | stinebd: any feedback on my merge requests? Or just in general, did you get notified of them? | 14:29 |
stinebd | hyc: yeah but i haven't looked at them yet | 14:29 |
emwe | hyc: does your series of patches included freeze-fixes for cell tower switches or low signal area traveling? | 14:32 |
emwe | used to work on one route i drove previous weekend, but yesterday i had to like 5 times reset my phone. | 14:32 |
emwe | does anybody else see issues still? | 14:32 |
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hyc | emwe: sadly, I'm seeing the same thing now, will need to bisect and find where it went wrong | 14:36 |
hyc | but so far I haven't been able to reproduce reliably. And was beginning to suspect the 4/2 kernel. | 14:36 |
arrrghhh | well i haven't had a single SoD in ages. | 14:37 |
hyc | since kernel and ril are the only things I've changed in the past week, when the problem has started to resruface | 14:37 |
arrrghhh | but i'm always in good service areas... | 14:37 |
hyc | and the patches to RIL in that time have nearly all been CDMA-related, so no effect on my phone. | 14:37 |
arrrghhh | odd | 14:38 |
hyc | but yes, last night while driving around town it hung on me twice. once going to my destination and after resetting, again on the drive home. | 14:38 |
hyc | I would say that some of the hangs have definitely been fixed and remain fixed though | 14:42 |
emwe | hyc: yes, i think it was better after some of the initial commits compared to "stock". | 14:42 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 14:43 |
hyc | Looking at my logs after the phone slept OK all night, I saw the wifi going idle 15 minutes after I left the phone. | 14:43 |
hyc | that explained one of the most immediate hangs I sued to always get | 14:43 |
hyc | used to | 14:43 |
hyc | Wifi goes idle, phone switches back to mobile data, that transition used to always hang | 14:44 |
emwe | no wifi here. ;) | 14:44 |
hyc | I also saw the mobile data terminate exactly 60.4 minutes later, all night long | 14:44 |
hyc | which is just T-Mobile shutting it down for 1 hour of idle time | 14:44 |
hyc | and that caused hangs in the past too. But that is also fixed, pppd is shut down gracefully, connection is re-established, and it goes on again for the next hour. | 14:45 |
hyc | so all that remains to be tested is apparently hangs due to signal loss | 14:45 |
infotechchick | to <arrrghhh> okay, so I get to the "Lauch a Script file" screen... what do I do now? | 14:51 |
arrrghhh | infotechchick, uhm... did you grab the correct startup.txt? | 14:51 |
infotechchick | I didn't change any paths... I extracted it directly to the SD card... | 14:52 |
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infotechchick | i'm not running HaRET from a folder... | 14:53 |
arrrghhh | so | 14:53 |
arrrghhh | you still need a startup.txt | 14:53 |
arrrghhh | you just don't need to modify the startup.txt if you are running from the root of the SD | 14:53 |
infotechchick | Gotcha, just move it there? | 14:53 |
arrrghhh | was that not one of the steps? :P | 14:54 |
arrrghhh | move, copy, whatever. | 14:54 |
arrrghhh | haret needs to know how to startup bascially | 14:54 |
infotechchick | Ha, it may have been... I thought it was only if you are running Android from a folder... but I'll move it. | 14:54 |
arrrghhh | without it, haret just runs... and waits for cxns if you want to use haretconsole. | 14:54 |
arrrghhh | no | 14:54 |
arrrghhh | the rel_path= modification is if you're running from a folder. | 14:54 |
infotechchick | Ahhhhhh gotcha1 | 14:55 |
infotechchick | ! | 14:55 |
infotechchick | It's the Rhod Tilt 2, right? | 14:55 |
arrrghhh | what? | 14:55 |
arrrghhh | i don't know what RHOD you have. | 14:55 |
arrrghhh | tp2=rhod | 14:55 |
arrrghhh | but there's several RHOD's. | 14:55 |
infotechchick | Only one of them say for Tilt 2... mine is a tilt | 14:55 |
arrrghhh | oy | 14:56 |
arrrghhh | i'm betting you didn't read the FAQ either | 14:56 |
arrrghhh | do you have an AT&T branded device? | 14:56 |
infotechchick | Some of them.. | 14:56 |
infotechchick | and no, T-mobile | 14:56 |
arrrghhh | that's 210 then | 14:57 |
arrrghhh | the FAQ i link to | 14:57 |
arrrghhh | in my thread. | 14:57 |
arrrghhh | the only FAQ that matters :P | 14:57 |
arrrghhh | (at least in this context) | 14:57 |
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infotechchick | I hope it actually worrks this time... it's at the XDANDROID animation screen now | 15:03 |
arrrghhh | wel that's better | 15:04 |
arrrghhh | well* | 15:04 |
infotechchick | Thaaaaaanks :) | 15:05 |
infotechchick | It's madness, I'm in school to develop mobile software, but I'm having trouble installing an operating systen | 15:05 |
infotechchick | *system | 15:06 |
arrrghhh | no comment. | 15:06 |
infotechchick | I wonder if I should be offended by that... hmmmm.... | 15:06 |
hyc | re: phones the ril works on - it just depends on the phones' radio versions | 15:07 |
arrrghhh | well if it helps, i offend a lot of people. | 15:07 |
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hyc | It looks to me like the GSM side of rhod400/500 does not support all the commands that the pure GSM phones do. | 15:07 |
fishhead2567 | pardon me, will XDAndroid on a TP2 be able to tether? | 15:08 |
hyc | but that's just a guess. so far nobody has given any logs from GSM rhod400/500. | 15:08 |
infotechchick | Well it worked :) now I just gotta get it to let me turn my phone the right way... | 15:08 |
arrrghhh | fishhead2567, yea. read the FAQ | 15:08 |
infotechchick | It's only sideways | 15:08 |
arrrghhh | press the back button | 15:08 |
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fishhead2567 | sorry arrrghhh =/ RTFM FTW | 15:09 |
fishhead2567 | thanks tho =) | 15:09 |
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infotechchick | There we go... it's lagging but it's still syncing, so I'm not gonna trip just yet... | 15:10 |
arrrghhh | fishhead2567, i wrote that FAQ for a reason. that reason was not so i would perpetually answer and re-answer the same questions over and over. | 15:10 |
arrrghhh | infotechchick, let it sit after the first boot. | 15:10 |
arrrghhh | lots of things happening in the background... | 15:11 |
infotechchick | I figured as much.. | 15:11 |
fishhead2567 | arrrghhh, i know i know. And what is ironic is i had read the wifi tehtering part... just didnt read the usb | 15:11 |
arrrghhh | :P | 15:11 |
arrrghhh | i'm talking to you right now using that usb tether method ;) works much better than wifi IMHO | 15:12 |
infotechchick | It does... I used it on my Motorola Cliq... | 15:12 |
emwe | hyc: if my rhod400 arrives i can get you some ril logs. | 15:12 |
fishhead2567 | arrrghhh, i will try the tether app. i hope it works. I want to tether my xoom and WIMO won't let me | 15:13 |
infotechchick | I want that Cliq 2... my dad comes back from Iraq next month, I'm getting it when he comes. | 15:13 |
arrrghhh | oh... usb tethering won't work so well with the xoom i would imagine fishhead2567. the built-in tethering app throws up an actual AP, it's just flaky. | 15:13 |
arrrghhh | does the xoom not recognize ad-hoc networks, or is that just an android thing? | 15:14 |
fishhead2567 | arrrghhh, yah i cant get the built in to bridge wifi and 3g. im on att and i wonder if thats the problem | 15:14 |
fishhead2567 | arrrghhh, i cant seem to get any android on ad-hoc | 15:14 |
arrrghhh | att doesn't allow you to tether for free | 15:14 |
fishhead2567 | most models have a fix, but xoom (well honeycomb) is too new | 15:15 |
infotechchick | AT&T suckas ass | 15:15 |
arrrghhh | and android may not like ad-hoc. seen wifi-ace? i heard it helps. | 15:15 |
fishhead2567 | it does on cyanogenmod, won't work for honeycomb yet | 15:15 |
fishhead2567 | and yes they do | 15:15 |
fishhead2567 | but all us providers do | 15:15 |
fishhead2567 | arrrghhh, att cant tell if u tether they just disable all the normal apps for doing it in their phones | 15:15 |
arrrghhh | fishhead2567, not true. i tether on sprint all day long no problems. | 15:16 |
fishhead2567 | arrrghhh, so if u have a tether app its fine, i tether my laptop all the time, just the damn xoom wont | 15:16 |
fishhead2567 | arrrghhh, oh nice! | 15:16 |
arrrghhh | i <3 sprint | 15:16 |
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fishhead2567 | hmm think i did something wrong. my XDAndroid's market doesnt have Easy Tether | 15:19 |
fishhead2567 | ahh ive heard of this. ATT connections wont let u see tethering apps i think | 15:19 |
arrrghhh | one word? | 15:19 |
fishhead2567 | yup | 15:19 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 15:19 |
fishhead2567 | i can access it via pc market | 15:19 |
fishhead2567 | and it says it isnt compatible with my phone | 15:20 |
arrrghhh | weird, i didn't think our builds cared what provider you were on. | 15:20 |
fishhead2567 | maybe im outdated? | 15:20 |
arrrghhh | easytether, one word showed up for me. | 15:20 |
arrrghhh | i don't use any market enabler oddities either. | 15:21 |
fishhead2567 | no matches | 15:21 |
fishhead2567 | strange... | 15:21 |
arrrghhh | wow. must be att, i just don't get why. | 15:21 |
fishhead2567 | i can probably get the apk for the lite version | 15:21 |
arrrghhh | yea, it's free. | 15:21 |
fishhead2567 | i dont know. How could they know? | 15:21 |
rpierce99 | market enabler was made to change your location and carrier information | 15:22 |
arrrghhh | they're big blue, they know all. | 15:22 |
arrrghhh | ma bell | 15:22 |
arrrghhh | rpierce99, yea exactly. | 15:22 |
arrrghhh | i'm saying i'm not doing it so there's no reason that it would show up in mine but not his (AFAIK) | 15:22 |
fishhead2567 | arrrghhh, except that im att and ur sprint right? | 15:23 |
fishhead2567 | the market app itself might be doing it | 15:23 |
fishhead2567 | using the connection library to see i am on att and disabling options? | 15:24 |
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arrrghhh | fishhead2567, perhaps. yes, i am on sprint. | 15:24 |
stinebd | [14:13:42] <arrrghhh> so i'm like totally not tempted to help you then | 15:26 |
stinebd | haha | 15:26 |
stinebd | arrrghhh does have a way with the ladies | 15:26 |
fishhead2567 | arrrghhh, i am redownloading kernel, rootfs, and initrd. will this put me at the lastest march 25th release. I see the system update ext file but i really dont know what dto do with it | 15:27 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, lol, i'm not trolling for poon here. | 15:27 |
arrrghhh | fishhead2567, just grab my frx06 bundle | 15:28 |
arrrghhh | that has the most updated/stable stuff in it. | 15:28 |
fishhead2567 | arrrghhh, update: pc market says "this item not available on your carrier" | 15:29 |
arrrghhh | fishhead2567, :(. att sucks, find an APK. | 15:29 |
arrrghhh | if worse comes to worse i'll post the one i dled. | 15:29 |
fishhead2567 | i will or ill grab market enabler and try that | 15:29 |
fishhead2567 | is market enabler a market app? | 15:29 |
arrrghhh | yes, but i haven't gotten it to work correctly. | 15:30 |
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fishhead2567 | I wooonnndeerrr | 15:34 |
fishhead2567 | arrrghhh, think I could not fix the startupfile on tilt 2, have it open with no net, wifi it. download tether | 15:34 |
fishhead2567 | then provision it | 15:35 |
arrrghhh | no clue | 15:35 |
arrrghhh | i don't think startup has anything to do with it tho | 15:35 |
arrrghhh | it's your carrier... | 15:35 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, aren't you on att? | 15:35 |
stinebd | yes | 15:36 |
arrrghhh | in the market, are you able to see the easytether app? | 15:36 |
arrrghhh | i've never heard of this issue before. | 15:36 |
stinebd | http://www.mobile-stream.com/easytether/android_faq.html#att | 15:37 |
infotechchick | IT WORKS!! | 15:38 |
arrrghhh | infotechchick, don't sound so surprised. | 15:38 |
infotechchick | Now, it won't go back to Windows Mobile if I turn it off, right? | 15:38 |
arrrghhh | infotechchick, lmao of course it will | 15:38 |
infotechchick | And I'm not, I'm just happy :) | 15:38 |
arrrghhh | you haven't flashed anything | 15:38 |
arrrghhh | you're running the OS from the SD | 15:39 |
arrrghhh | nothing has changed on your phone. | 15:39 |
infotechchick | SHIT!! | 15:39 |
arrrghhh | ... | 15:39 |
infotechchick | How do I flash it? | 15:39 |
arrrghhh | it's not possible yet | 15:39 |
stinebd | for carrier-restricted applications (probably only affects gsm), you need to shut down and remove the sim | 15:39 |
arrrghhh | i mean it is, but i'm not going to show you how to do it. | 15:39 |
infotechchick | SHOOOOOT!!!!!!!!!!!! | 15:39 |
arrrghhh | ... | 15:39 |
infotechchick | Why not?? | 15:39 |
arrrghhh | because, i'm just an asshole. | 15:39 |
infotechchick | Hm. | 15:39 |
stinebd | it's far beyond your level of comprehension | 15:39 |
infotechchick | I guess. | 15:39 |
infotechchick | Seriously? | 15:39 |
odz | yep | 15:40 |
infotechchick | Wow, ass hole. | 15:40 |
arrrghhh | yes, seriously | 15:40 |
stinebd | it would be dangerous and most likely ineffective | 15:40 |
fishhead2567 | infotechchick, im confused why do u want to flash? | 15:40 |
arrrghhh | that and it's not ready for general consumption. | 15:40 |
arrrghhh | infotechchick, despite your name, you are general consumption. | 15:40 |
infotechchick | I think I will justbuy a new phone... an Android. I hate WinMo | 15:40 |
arrrghhh | then do it | 15:40 |
fishhead2567 | infotechchick, XDAndroid piggybacks on the wimo drivers for certain apps. Flashing could ruin your phone. im in your boat F^^& wimo | 15:40 |
stinebd | if you have money then that's your best option | 15:40 |
arrrghhh | ^^ | 15:40 |
stinebd | i'm not being mean when i say flashing is way too advanced for you, i'm just telling the truth | 15:41 |
arrrghhh | fishhead2567, that's not entirely true anymore, most of the hardware we are now initializing ourselves. | 15:41 |
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stinebd | it gave me problems and i'm the one who creates the system images | 15:41 |
fishhead2567 | arrrghhh, oh sweet =) | 15:41 |
infotechchick | Well thanks fishhead2567 because YOU'RE nice. | 15:41 |
midnight | Hi all | 15:42 |
fishhead2567 | infotechchick, haha tank you. i dont think the others were trying to be mean tho. I think sadly they get too many people who say "I FLASH NOW YEEY WAIT FUCK YOU BROKE MY PHONE BOOHOO" so its a good strategy to say "no. i wont help you get mad at me later" | 15:42 |
infotechchick | He said it's way too advanced for me, like I'm stupid or something. | 15:42 |
arrrghhh | infotechchick, NAND flashing isn't ready yet for the masses, get a grip. | 15:43 |
infotechchick | If that's the case, then say that. | 15:43 |
stinebd | i'm not in a position to judge your stupidity | 15:43 |
arrrghhh | lmao | 15:43 |
infotechchick | I won't blame anyone, hell, I'm grown. | 15:43 |
stinebd | but it requires a very deep knowledge of the hardware and system | 15:43 |
stinebd | that it's too advanced says more about it than you | 15:43 |
fishhead2567 | infotechchick, nah. its like saying "Advanced relativistic particle physics is too advanced for you" flashing scares the hell outta me ()_() | 15:43 |
infotechchick | Hmmm... I suppose....... | 15:44 |
infotechchick | Well hell, time to start phone shopping.. | 15:44 |
infotechchick | F^^K Windows! | 15:44 |
fishhead2567 | infotechchick, =) damn right. Does anyone have a suggestion for good android phones? | 15:44 |
stinebd | nexus one still rocks | 15:44 |
arrrghhh | ...w00t? | 15:44 |
stinebd | and it runs gingerbread natively | 15:45 |
stinebd | and you can still get the tmo version if you have a developer account | 15:45 |
fishhead2567 | arrrghhh, i got your bundle. Reading instructions, this one doesnt seem to need or use the andboot directory does it | 15:46 |
infotechchick | I was thinkimg about the Cliq 2... yes or no? | 15:46 |
stinebd | no | 15:46 |
stinebd | moto trash | 15:46 |
arrrghhh | fishhead2567, you can put it in whatever directiory you wish sir. | 15:46 |
fishhead2567 | arrrghhh, haha okay | 15:46 |
stinebd | tmo is kinda slim pickings lately | 15:46 |
stinebd | as far as devices go | 15:47 |
stinebd | actually i'd hold off if i were you anyway | 15:47 |
stinebd | since they're being bought out | 15:47 |
arrrghhh | yea, dual core phones are in the wings | 15:47 |
arrrghhh | lol that too | 15:47 |
fishhead2567 | join /##pythom-friendly | 15:47 |
fishhead2567 | join /##python-friendly | 15:47 |
stinebd | stop spamming your cybersex channel | 15:47 |
arrrghhh | uh | 15:47 |
arrrghhh | slash goes first | 15:47 |
fishhead2567 | haha | 15:47 |
arrrghhh | lol | 15:47 |
fishhead2567 | whoops | 15:47 |
infotechchick | kkk | 15:47 |
infotechchick | Oops | 15:47 |
infotechchick | lol | 15:47 |
arrrghhh | i didn't peg you for a klan member infotechchick | 15:48 |
infotechchick | Hahaha, I'm not one | 15:48 |
fishhead2567 | join /#weirdkinkysexwithillegals | 15:48 |
fishhead2567 | ah wait crap.. | 15:48 |
stinebd | illegal whats? | 15:48 |
infotechchick | I was testing the Enter button... it was doing things | 15:48 |
arrrghhh | lol | 15:48 |
midnight | lol | 15:49 |
fishhead2567 | arrrghhh, booting bundle. hopefully this will woork | 15:50 |
arrrghhh | did you see stinebd's suggestion? no SIM, you should be able to get the app. | 15:51 |
arrrghhh | obviously wifi is your only option at that point. | 15:51 |
fishhead2567 | arrrghhh, that's okay. i can use wifi for now then inset sim after | 15:51 |
arrrghhh | yup. once you have the apk, who knows if it'll work or not. hopefully it does, it's dependent on adb. | 15:52 |
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midnight | what are you talking about? | 15:52 |
F22 | speaking of tmo, gotta agree with stinebd on the cliq2 stay away from it. best phone on tmo right now without a kbd is the samsung s 4g which is basically a nexus s with hspa+ and sd card support. tmo should be getting a pair of tegra2 phones from htc and lg in the next few months also. | 15:52 |
stinebd | i hate how all the new phones are coming without useful notification leds | 15:53 |
stinebd | i'm highly dependent upon my n1's rgb led | 15:53 |
F22 | that sucks. leds are relatively cheap to add and give such peace of mind to my geeky soul. :P | 15:54 |
stinebd | the atrix has a single, one-color one-rate notification led | 15:54 |
arrrghhh | lame | 15:54 |
Dweezahr | Hello all, this is fantastic software, but there are still some flaws that are not being tested yet | 15:57 |
Dweezahr | the racoon daemon is crashing in both gbx0A and FRX06 | 15:57 |
F22 | regarding tmo, word is the htc sensation/pyramid which has the tegra2 will get officially announced in 4 days will be coming to tmo. no word on launch date. | 15:57 |
arrrghhh | racoon daemon?!? | 15:57 |
Dweezahr | logs on android show that: E/racoon ( 2025): Cannot create KEY socket | 15:58 |
Dweezahr | is this a module that is missing and can be loaded with insmod? | 15:58 |
arrrghhh | good lord, that's obsecure Dweezahr | 15:58 |
arrrghhh | what do you need it for? | 15:58 |
Dweezahr | I am using IPSec/L2TP with x.509 | 15:58 |
stinebd | lol, yes probably missing modules | 15:58 |
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stinebd | not sure if they get built | 15:59 |
Dweezahr | ah, okay, no one understood my questions in the android channels | 15:59 |
arrrghhh | Dweezahr, yea you're probably the only one who has ever asked about that lol | 15:59 |
Dweezahr | yeah | 15:59 |
arrrghhh | XDAndroid != Android yet :P | 15:59 |
arrrghhh | if ever... | 15:59 |
Dweezahr | I have no idea what Key socket can be | 16:00 |
Dweezahr | I only have experience with openswan on linux | 16:00 |
arrrghhh | whoosh | 16:00 |
stinebd | ugh why is there an american sporting event on the japanese channels every time i tune in? | 16:01 |
fishhead2567 | intersting | 16:01 |
arrrghhh | because everyone loves americans | 16:01 |
stinebd | golf on tbs right now | 16:01 |
stinebd | (borderline sport) | 16:01 |
fishhead2567 | arrrghhh, lates build: no simcard = RUNS SO SLOW IT HURTS =P | 16:01 |
arrrghhh | lmao | 16:01 |
fishhead2567 | arrrghhh, worth it tho | 16:02 |
stinebd | yankees were on nhk yesterday (also borderline) | 16:02 |
arrrghhh | fishhead2567, wait for it to finish booting. | 16:02 |
fishhead2567 | arrrghhh, it did, i am at desktop. or will i need to wait a littlemore (honest not sarcastic) | 16:02 |
stinebd | runs fine with no sim for me | 16:02 |
fishhead2567 | stinebd, might be cuz its first boot | 16:02 |
arrrghhh | fishhead2567, honestly. even after the desktop shows. | 16:03 |
fishhead2567 | stinebd, may need to get the gears going | 16:03 |
arrrghhh | i usually let it sit for 5 mins after the desktop shows. | 16:03 |
stinebd | it's a solid state system, no gears :P | 16:03 |
fishhead2567 | arrrghhh, yah. but it may just be a first boot thing. Oh ok | 16:03 |
arrrghhh | just so i'm not wanting to throw the phone at the wall | 16:03 |
stinebd | unless you install the glxgears test | 16:03 |
fishhead2567 | haha | 16:03 |
arrrghhh | lol | 16:03 |
fishhead2567 | stinebd, what phone | 16:04 |
stinebd | which phone do i have? raph and rhod | 16:04 |
stinebd | raph110, rhod300 and rhod400 | 16:04 |
fishhead2567 | argh. i think the screen calibration is the problem. something is wrong. which file is it i delete to reset that | 16:05 |
arrrghhh | didn't make a shameless plug for the n1, i'm impressed stinebd | 16:05 |
arrrghhh | fishhead2567, faq! ts-calibration | 16:05 |
stinebd | arrrghhh: that one doesn't run xdandroid anymore | 16:05 |
arrrghhh | yea, but still. | 16:05 |
arrrghhh | you always seem to enjoy puttin us down by pointing out how awesome this or that runs on your n1 :P | 16:06 |
stinebd | angry birds rio runs great on it | 16:06 |
stinebd | i assume | 16:06 |
arrrghhh | lol | 16:07 |
arrrghhh | the benchmark app for android, angry birds. | 16:07 |
fishhead2567 | arrrghhh, sigh.. tilt2 wifi is not working with XDA | 16:07 |
arrrghhh | LIES | 16:07 |
arrrghhh | did you mess with the kernel or modules at all? | 16:08 |
fishhead2567 | arrrghhh, not working with mine =( but my phone has been dropped a few times | 16:08 |
arrrghhh | vanilla bundle, wifi should work out of the box. | 16:08 |
fishhead2567 | arrrghhh, nope straight download your pakage, move tilt 2 startup to root then reboot into cda | 16:08 |
fishhead2567 | er xda | 16:08 |
rpierce99 | i think some people have to fuss with wifi-nvram.txt to get wifi up out of the box | 16:09 |
rpierce99 | not sure though | 16:09 |
arrrghhh | hrm. i dunno, works for most out of the box. i just responded to a post in the forums, a few have to muck with the wifi-nvram | 16:09 |
arrrghhh | damnit | 16:09 |
arrrghhh | :P | 16:09 |
arrrghhh | so i guess we never figured out the root cause for that issue/ | 16:10 |
arrrghhh | very rarely do i ever get people that complain about wifi flat out not working, and having to use that nvram trick. | 16:10 |
fishhead2567 | arrrghhh, it activates, scans, then shuts off | 16:11 |
arrrghhh | doesn't show any networks? | 16:11 |
arrrghhh | does it say error or anything like that? | 16:11 |
fishhead2567 | nope | 16:13 |
fishhead2567 | just turns off | 16:13 |
arrrghhh | well i dunno. | 16:14 |
arrrghhh | without logs, can't really tell anything. | 16:14 |
arrrghhh | i can't read minds, and i really can't read phone's minds. | 16:14 |
fishhead2567 | ill mess with wifi-nvram | 16:14 |
arrrghhh | yea, there's a thread on xda-devs on the topic. | 16:14 |
Dweezahr | I have mailed to the IPsec-tools mailinglist with the problems related to racoon, and with the question what modules can be missing that prevents racoon from creating a 'KEY socket' | 16:17 |
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Dweezahr | Furtheron, I like the GBX0A, but it crashes for me all the time, because some programs require location services, which are unavailable in the version. | 16:19 |
arrrghhh | yes. | 16:20 |
hyc | OK, I put my phone into my microwave oven. (without turning on the oven.) | 16:25 |
hyc | signal strength drops to 2 bars. | 16:25 |
hyc | That's T-Mobile for ya, 1700MHz, microwave ovens are 2300MHz. | 16:26 |
Dweezahr | its a metal cage | 16:26 |
hyc | this would have completely killed the signal on AT&T 3G | 16:26 |
arrrghhh | hyc, turn it on high for 20 mins. film it. | 16:26 |
hyc | :P | 16:26 |
emwe | then his RIL is likely to break. | 16:27 |
arrrghhh | :D | 16:27 |
hyc | now it's in a ziploc bag in the fridge | 16:27 |
arrrghhh | lmao | 16:27 |
arrrghhh | oh the things we do.. | 16:27 |
hyc | so far I haven't been able to force it to hang | 16:27 |
hyc | so I'm thinking it may be a cell tower handoff, not just a loss of signal | 16:27 |
emwe | exactly. just had my phone play sex toy. vibrating when out of sleep. and there's that sleep bug on .35 still | 16:27 |
emwe | (that was regarding.. oh the things we do...) | 16:28 |
arrrghhh | emwe, giggity? | 16:28 |
hyc | .35 ? you're running a 2.6.35 kernel? | 16:28 |
hyc | I tried to compile it a few weeks ago, failed | 16:28 |
arrrghhh | emwe, i cannot wait for you to get your rhod400. there's some things that i need you to confirm/deny. | 16:28 |
arrrghhh | i guess i could just steal the SIM from my neighbor's celly | 16:28 |
odz | wow he didnt get it yet? | 16:28 |
emwe | hyc: yap. but way less advanced hten .27. but less butchered. (alex on his .35 kovsky tree is way further) | 16:28 |
emwe | odz: nope. | 16:29 |
odz | damn that was one of the first things i read about when i started coming here :P | 16:29 |
emwe | lol | 16:29 |
emwe | arrrghhh: crashes due to netloc on gbx0a? | 16:30 |
arrrghhh | emwe, noes. folks with CDMA world phones say that newer kernels the GSM radio dies on sleep. | 16:31 |
arrrghhh | so when the phone is turned off, can't get calls, sms... | 16:31 |
emwe | that used to be the case for me sleep_mode=0 on topa+.27 | 16:31 |
emwe | always use 1/1 for the time being. | 16:31 |
hyc | pulled the logs after my walk into the canyon, switched between 2G and 3G without trouble | 16:33 |
hyc | so far it's all behaved as it ought to. :P | 16:34 |
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Entropy512 | fishhead2567: the problem you're having sounds like you're one of the ones who needs to fuss with wifi-nvram.txt | 16:43 |
Entropy512 | your description sounds almost exactly like the symptoms I had | 16:43 |
fishhead2567 | thinkin so | 16:43 |
fishhead2567 | just finished the sudo copy commands | 16:43 |
fishhead2567 | do i need to reboot or can i try enabling wifi? | 16:43 |
Entropy512 | I think you need to reboot | 16:44 |
fishhead2567 | kk | 16:44 |
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fishhead2567 | takes SO LONG on rhod300 =P | 16:44 |
Entropy512 | I can't remember, I may eventually have bind-mounted it to avoid the need to redo it when changing system images or wiping data | 16:44 |
fishhead2567 | hrmm? | 16:45 |
Entropy512 | there are tricks for making a file on your SD card appear on one of the system or data filesystems | 16:45 |
Entropy512 | bind-mounting = "bind --mount" commands in sdcard/conf/froyo.user.conf | 16:45 |
Entropy512 | I may just not have wiped my data partition (i use a partition instead of data.img) | 16:46 |
Entropy512 | don't feel like grabbing phone atm to refresh memory, tired after work. :) | 16:46 |
Entropy512 | seems like Dweezahr's report is another in the category of "VPNs don't work" | 16:49 |
Dweezahr | basically, that is what it is yes | 16:49 |
Entropy512 | unfortunately since none of the devs need VPN, it hasn't received much attention, esp. since the devs are still chasing stability issues | 16:50 |
Entropy512 | I might poke at VPN in the next couple of weeks as a distraction from the GPS code | 16:50 |
Entropy512 | which still makes my head hurt | 16:50 |
Dweezahr | okay, gps works in 2.2 but not 2.3 right? | 16:50 |
Entropy512 | correct, it's missing some stuff in 2.2 which I'm sort of slowly poking at | 16:51 |
Entropy512 | but it mostly works - just slow to lock | 16:51 |
Entropy512 | apparently the driver needs to be rearchitectured for 2.3 | 16:52 |
Entropy512 | but since I have no idea what the architectural differences are - I'm probably not the one for that effort | 16:52 |
Entropy512 | I'm better at fixing minor things/tweaking stuff that's near-working | 16:53 |
Entropy512 | I suck at major architecture overhauls | 16:53 |
Entropy512 | :) | 16:53 |
Dweezahr | I think the IPSEC daemon is nearly working | 16:53 |
Dweezahr | when comparing the logs to a normal instance, there is only the KEY socket error | 16:53 |
Dweezahr | Do you have a server to expirmentate with? | 16:54 |
Dweezahr | I am running IPSec/L2TP with radius here with a PKI | 16:54 |
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hyc | ah, life's a bit easier with a Quickboot Reboot shortcut on the homepage | 16:55 |
hyc | and the gscript Start Log shortcut | 16:55 |
Entropy512 | Dweezahr: nope, no server to experiment with | 16:55 |
Entropy512 | I've seen a few reports that PPTP is also broken | 16:55 |
Entropy512 | so I was going to poke at that sometime in the next week or two | 16:56 |
Entropy512 | actually | 16:56 |
Entropy512 | what I poke at depends heavily on what DD-WRT on my router supports. :) | 16:56 |
Dweezahr | oh, no that is usally crap | 16:56 |
Dweezahr | pptp is fine | 16:56 |
Dweezahr | but ipsec part, maybe working normally, but then no l2tp i assume | 16:56 |
Entropy512 | hyc: yeah, I need to set up gscript and set up a start log script | 16:57 |
Entropy512 | may as well grab radio logcat, system logcat, and dmesg all in one | 16:57 |
Entropy512 | :) | 16:57 |
hyc | heh good idea, I don't have dmesg in my script right now | 16:57 |
hyc | would be nice to get continuous pull from kernel log, I dunno if /dev/klog works | 16:58 |
fishhead2567 | balls | 16:59 |
fishhead2567 | no luck | 16:59 |
fishhead2567 | Entropy512, after i copy over the file with my mac address i dont need to do that at each boot right? | 17:01 |
Entropy512 | correct | 17:01 |
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fishhead2567 | Entropy512, k. I am thinking i did it wromng. doublechecking | 17:08 |
Entropy512 | going to poke at my phone a little | 17:08 |
Entropy512 | I did it so long ago I can't remember. :P | 17:08 |
Entropy512 | ok, looks like it's in /data/wifi-nvram.txt on my phone | 17:10 |
Entropy512 | which would be the root of data.img for you | 17:10 |
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fishhead2567 | yah | 17:33 |
fishhead2567 | no love =( | 17:33 |
fishhead2567 | rats | 17:37 |
fishhead2567 | i will get such a boner if this ever works... | 17:38 |
fishhead2567 | but NOOO | 17:38 |
fishhead2567 | HOT DIGGITY DAMN! | 17:44 |
fishhead2567 | wifi came on =) | 17:44 |
emwe | hyc: your androidhtc1 branch in it's current state is not usable anymore with "stock" userland, right? | 17:45 |
fishhead2567 | now ive got barnccle and eztether | 17:45 |
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fishhead2567 | gotta go | 18:06 |
fishhead2567 | update: barnacle works... still wont pair to xoom | 18:06 |
fishhead2567 | llater all | 18:06 |
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madplaya1 | i got a question anyone online ? | 21:19 |
MassStash | yea | 21:20 |
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rpierce99 | wow MassStash i'd feel insulted, he didn't even bother asking | 22:17 |
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Madplaya1 | I keep getting files that start with FSCK000 something like that, could that because of HaRet? Sorry, I couldn't ask you earlier my computer was messing up ,& it froze lol. | 23:51 |
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ryannathans | add a line to your user.conf to delete these files each boot | 23:55 |
ryannathans | they are not needed | 23:55 |
ryannathans | add rm -f /sdcard/*.rec to the custom commands in your user.conf file | 23:56 |
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