Friday, 2011-04-08

ryannathansROFL someone has a sense of humour: "git - the stupid content tracker00:00
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ryannathansare there any branches off froyo?00:04
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Entropy512nn all00:05
ryannathansnight00:06
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ryannathansstinebd: did you see the fix I posted? Hyc and I fixed the freeze on boot issue permanently.00:18
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ryannathanswhere can i get the latest market?00:30
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ryannathansSUCCESS02:42
ryannathansmerged latest market into froyo and got it to work :D02:42
ryannathanshow do i remove the camera app from frx06 before i build it02:59
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raf_stinebd: http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Version_FRX06 says "FRX05". I assume that should say FRX06.. that that was a copy-paste-o.  (I'm not changing it myself only because I wrote the initial page as FRX06, and I give you the benefit of the doubt.)03:43
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ryannathanshow do I include precompiled apps (.apk) in my build? All my previous attempts have failed, replacing Vendor.apk was successful but it is because an old version existed.04:32
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JannickOh hello there05:11
ryannathanshey05:12
JannickI'm having problems with my Topaz and the newest FRX06.05:13
JannickWhen I got a call, and I accept it, i don't hear anything05:13
JannickWhen I'm cancel the call, it's still active and my phone freezes05:14
JannickI'm wondering if someone here could help me :)05:15
ryannathansare you able to hear the other person?05:19
ryannathansoh05:19
ryannathansis the issue present when you use frx05?05:19
JannickNope05:34
JannickSorry for the late response05:34
JannickI got the problem after updating to the new kernel05:35
ryannathanskernel or build?05:37
ryannathansfrx05 -> frx06 is the build05:37
JannickAh, well, the htc-msm-linux-20110317-184049-package.tar.bz2 unpacken05:38
Jannickunpacked05:38
ryannathanshave you used that kernel with frx05?05:39
JannickNope05:39
ryannathansso you upgraded kernel and build at same time?05:39
JannickYup...05:40
ryannathanssweet, what kernel were you using before?05:40
Jannickehm...05:41
JannickThe one before the last...05:41
JannickOr, ehm... 20110228_202832 i think05:41
ryannathansokay, we need to see if it is the kernel or build, test with that kernel05:41
ryannathansgsm or cdma, also, what model is your phone?05:42
JannickGSM05:42
ryannathanswhat phone?05:42
JannickTopa10005:42
JannickHTC Touch Diamond 205:42
JannickOr whatever you can call it :)05:42
ryannathansokay05:43
ryannathansgo back to previous kernel and test again05:43
JannickI'm rebooting the phone in winmo to change the kernel05:43
JannickThe 20110228_202832?05:43
ryannathanschange it to what you were using when it worked05:43
ryannathanswhat rootfs are you using?05:44
JannickI'm not sure which one, it's last modified on 24-2-201105:46
ryannathanswas it F22's or the one on the autobuild site?05:47
JannickWhat's F22?05:47
ryannathansa person that made a custom rootfs that fixes and allows you to use all the FN symbols05:48
JannickAh, no05:48
JannickI used the glemsom build05:48
JannickRe-unpacking the kernel...05:49
JannickCan I check when I'm in Android which kernel is the actual one?05:51
ryannathansyou can find out what one you are using05:51
ryannathanshave you booted?05:53
JannickYup, trying to make a call05:54
ryannathanssettings > about phone > kernel version05:54
JannickNo problem :)05:55
ryannathansso it works?05:55
JannickYup05:55
Jannick]Kernel version 2.6.27.46-01276 -g6 etc05:55
JannickBuild-number is FRX0505:56
ryannathansthought you were on 06?05:56
JannickI thought the same...05:57
JannickWha tthe...05:57
ryannathans?05:57
JannickI'll be back in half an hour, got to go05:57
ryannathansokay, cya then05:57
JannickOk :)05:58
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ryannathanshyc: are you there?06:06
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JannickAnd there I am again, will be there in about 5 minutes06:39
ryannathans?06:39
ryannathansg2g be on later06:42
JannickOK :)06:42
JannickI'll try FRX0606:42
ryannathansback06:51
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ryannathansanyone active?07:38
xdandroidNew XDAndroid Releases bug 123 filed...07:43
xdandroidBug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=123 major, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, speakerphone not working FRX0607:43
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ryannathans^^ i didn't know speakerphone files were changed =/07:58
Entropy512hmm08:00
Entropy512fairly certain speakerphone works08:00
Entropy512hold on08:00
Entropy512yup, works fine for me08:01
Entropy512gonna read bugreport08:01
ryannathansits for DIAM08:01
ryannathanscdma08:01
Entropy512ah08:02
ryannathansI am having a few problems including prebuild apks in my build, I added it and make the Android.mk but It says you should add this to core.mk08:02
ryannathanssigh08:02
Entropy512I'm still going to post a bit.08:03
Entropy512hmm, look at how it's done for gapps?08:04
ryannathanstouche, i was following android.com's cookbook08:04
midnightryan,are you building a new build?08:04
ryannathansyes, why?08:04
midnightjust asking08:04
ryannathansI managed to get the 5/4/11 market working08:05
ryannathansmarket08:05
midnighti should find a way to make dhcp working in mine08:05
ryannathansbut I cant add new apks, I can edit old ones though08:05
ryannathanswhat build you usin?08:05
midnightmy gingercherry,in xda's diamond dev section08:05
Entropy512ryannathans: where did you get 5/4 market and what else from the gapps package did you need to make it work?08:06
ryannathansthe leak that they had08:07
ryannathansi got their new market08:07
Entropy512oh the leaked market08:07
midnightwhat has changed in the leaked market?08:07
Entropy512did you need to do anything other than put it into /system?08:07
Entropy512er08:07
Entropy512/system/app?08:07
midnighti think something in /etc08:08
ryannathansdon't know, only looked at it for a second to make sure that it worked, all i did was replace the Vender.apk or whatever it is before i compiled08:08
Entropy512ok, so you did it before building the system08:08
ryannathansyes08:08
Entropy512did you wipe data when you started using the new build?08:08
ryannathansyes08:09
ryannathansnew data.img08:09
ryannathansif thats what you mean08:09
midnightoh,it's a looop system build08:09
Entropy512hmm maybe I'll have to wipe data tonight if I want market shinyness08:09
Entropy512yup08:09
ryannathansis partitioned sd card faster than loop?08:09
midnightfor me yes08:09
ryannathansi know how to partition it, is there a guide?08:10
midnightto make partition builds?08:10
ryannathansyes08:10
midnightsimply try with a androidinstall.tar.gz,delete system folder in it,and put your system folder extracted from loop08:11
ryannathanshmm08:11
midnightbut this is giving arrrghhh problems,because he's trying with cm7,and neopeek has changed something in rootfs...08:12
ryannathansto add prebuilt apks, do i need to edit08:12
Entropy512the rootfs we use in xdandroid supports both looped and partitioned08:12
ryannathansdevice_msm-vendor-blobs.mk?08:12
ryannathanshmm okay08:12
Entropy512not sure about that08:12
Entropy512my trick for partitioning:08:13
midnightentropy,you have to edit init08:13
ryannathansi have been playing all day to get prebuild apks to work08:13
Entropy512midnight: not with our rootfs08:13
Entropy512it autodetects08:13
midnightnew rootfs autodetects for partitions?08:13
Entropy512e.g. the one included with FRX bundles08:13
ryannathanshow many partitions and of what kind?08:13
midnight2 partitions,1 ext2 and 1 fat3208:13
Entropy512partition 1 is still FAT08:13
Entropy512partition 3 is ext2 (system)08:14
Entropy512partition 4 is ext2 (data)08:14
Entropy512partition 2 is unused08:14
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ryannathanswhat sizes?08:14
arrrghhhEntropy512, you go to cornell?08:14
Entropy512arrrghhh: graduated 200208:14
midnightentropy,my internal storage has 2 partitions,1 fat 32 3 gb and 1 ext2 700 mb08:14
arrrghhhEntropy512, nice!  i didn't know that ;)08:14
Entropy512live nearby and have season tickets to hockey08:15
Entropy512:)08:15
arrrghhhhehe awesome08:15
midnighthi arrrghhh08:15
ryannathansarrrghhh do you know how to add prebuilt apks before compiling?08:15
arrrghhhwhat's up08:15
arrrghhhryannathans, to /system/app08:15
arrrghhhif you want to burn them into the ROM basically08:15
ryannathansyes08:15
arrrghhhi wouldn't recommend it tho08:15
Entropy512as far as partition sizes - system partition has to be at least as large as your system.ext208:15
ryannathansbut for one or 2 i want to08:15
arrrghhhAndroidApps is much easier, and allows newbs to easily remove08:16
Entropy512I make it 500MB just to have room to grow08:16
arrrghhhryannathans, well do what you want, just don't release it :P08:16
Entropy512but it prolly only needs to be 12808:16
ryannathansbut i need to remove the old camera and market, if i use the AndroidApps it wont work08:16
Entropy512I think if you just swap the APKs for old camera and market in the source tree that's all you need08:17
ryannathansi have a new camera, market, gallery and music play iwant to add08:17
Entropy512unless one of those requires new support APKs08:17
arrrghhhok i get the new market08:17
arrrghhhdid you find one that works Entropy512 ?08:17
arrrghhhi don't get the new camera app tho, you'll need to explain that08:17
Entropy512I didn't but ryannathans says that the leaked one works if you wipe data08:17
Entropy512gonna try tonight08:17
arrrghhhthe beta?08:17
ryannathansall i did was replace the vendor apk, compile and bam, new market that works08:18
ryannathansoh, new data.img too08:18
arrrghhhlol works well i hope?  :P08:18
Entropy512http://gitorious.org/xdandroid/rootfs/blobs/master/init - midnight, look around line 7408:18
arrrghhhcuz the existing market 'works'08:18
ryannathansyes all works08:18
Entropy512you'll see the xdandroid partition autodetect code08:18
Entropy512I'm gonna see if wiping data lets me use the 2.2.7 market which isn't beta but is MUCH newer08:18
ryannathansisnt camera and stuff compiled into apks when you compile?08:18
ryannathansim using 2.2.11 market08:19
midnight Entropy512:but i need 4 partitions?08:19
arrrghhhryannathans, why new cam?08:19
Entropy512midnight: partition 2 is empty08:19
arrrghhhmidnight, no, you don't.08:19
Entropy5121 is classic sdcard08:19
Entropy5123 is system08:19
Entropy5124 is data08:19
ryannathanstest it out :P also the current camera crashes after a second08:19
arrrghhhryannathans, not for me08:19
ryannathanssigh08:19
arrrghhhmust be your shitty rhod110 :P08:19
ryannathansdefinately :P08:19
midnightinstead now i have 1 wm,2 system + data08:19
midnightand stop08:19
ryannathansi had a user on here before, with the latest kernel no one can hear him talk in a phone call08:20
midnightbut i need to edit init08:20
Entropy512system + data on same partition?08:20
arrrghhhmidnight, yea that's how neopeek does it.  but why not a separate partition for data?  makes sense to me.08:20
ryannathansbut 2.6.27.46-01276 works for him08:20
Entropy512that's...  oddd...08:20
midnight Entropy512:if you use neopeek way,2 partitions08:20
Entropy512makes it hard to keep system RO and data RW in normal operation08:20
arrrghhhjb is messing a lot with audio routing.08:20
arrrghhhnewest kernel is borked, i don't recommend anyone use it.08:20
ryannathansthats what i told him :P08:20
midnightif you use xdandroid way,not tried by me,4 partitions08:21
ryannathansso he is all good now08:21
arrrghhhEntropy512, the whole thing is rw afaik.08:21
midnightbut not newb-friendly08:21
arrrghhhi don't see the need to burn 1 part tho.08:21
arrrghhhwhy do you skip 2?  lol08:21
Entropy512arrrghhh: system is RO with xdandroid08:21
midnightcya08:21
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arrrghhhmidnight, no, multiple partitions is not :P08:21
Entropy512I have no idea why 2 is skilled08:21
Entropy512skipped08:21
arrrghhhEntropy512, as it should be08:21
arrrghhhhrm08:21
arrrghhhweird08:21
Entropy512imo it should be fixed unless someone knows why it was skipped08:21
arrrghhhsince it's basically you and one other person doing it :P08:22
arrrghhhi'm assuming it was your formatting, nothing with xdandroid08:22
arrrghhhunless i'm missing something08:22
ryannathansanyway, i want to get prebuild apks working then i will start partitioning my sd08:22
arrrghhhryannathans, i told you how08:23
ryannathansdo i edit the ext2 after compiling?08:23
arrrghhhi guess you can08:25
ryannathanshow can i do it before?08:25
arrrghhhuhm08:25
arrrghhhedit the files?08:25
arrrghhhwhat do you mean!??08:25
ryannathansi have been trying too day to get it to compile including a prebuilt .apk08:25
ryannathansmade the Android.mk but it said to add it to core.mk and that didnt make sense08:26
ryannathansi was following android cookbook for adding prebuild apks before compiling08:26
ryannathansi never got it to work08:26
arrrghhhuhm08:26
arrrghhhjust add the apk08:26
arrrghhhperhaps it is easier after it's built08:26
ryannathansafter compiling?08:26
arrrghhhhave you tried?08:27
ryannathansnot after compiling08:27
arrrghhhwell at least try before asking quesitons.08:28
arrrghhhquestions08:28
ryannathansoh, to stop the Music apk from being compiled, do i delte the packages/apps/music folder?08:28
ryannathansthen compile, add the new music apk to the system/apps folder?08:29
arrrghhhyou can't just remove the apk?08:29
ryannathansi want to be able to do it before compiling, but i will try that08:29
arrrghhhno just remove the apk and replace.08:29
ryannathansi always seem to do it the hard way xD08:29
arrrghhhwhat does it matter08:29
arrrghhhyea you do everything the hard way it seems08:30
ryannathansbit like you aye? ;)08:30
arrrghhhactually i try to find ways to do things better08:30
arrrghhhin everything, at work in my personal life.  i like to think i do things the easy way, work smarter not harder.08:30
ryannathansthe only problem this way is that after a new compile i have to make changes again and again.....08:31
* arrrghhh plays the tiniest violin08:32
* ryannathans praises the perfect moment08:32
arrrghhhlol08:32
Entropy512ryannathans: I have to do that all the time with my build.prop tweaks and bash.  :(08:32
Entropy512used to it08:32
ryannathans:P08:32
arrrghhhi just end up bind mounting modded build.prop's08:33
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arrrghhhworks pretty weel08:33
arrrghhhwell*08:33
arrrghhhbut ofc that's just temporary, intentionally so.08:33
xtremist_arrrghhh when u releasing new ginger wth full 3d ?08:34
arrrghhhhw3d works08:34
xtremist_actually neocore messess08:34
arrrghhhneocore is the only thing that's FUBAR AFAIK08:34
xtremist_yeahh08:34
arrrghhhyea ^^08:34
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arrrghhhi'm pretty sure neocore isn't a big deal... not exactly mission-critical.08:35
ryannathansdoes 3d work better on gb or froyo08:35
Entropy512It appears that neocore can be fixed if you take all the 3D-related stuff from froyo and throw it into GB08:35
xtremist_yeahh hey whts the progress on nand08:35
arrrghhhEntropy512, yea i saw that.08:35
arrrghhhxtremist_, on diam?  non-existant.08:35
xtremist_well i  think i tried armv9 error came up08:35
xtremist_nope ralph08:35
arrrghhhsame08:36
arrrghhhraph08:36
xtremist_??08:36
xtremist_some got it booted08:36
arrrghhhryannathans, you do like to ask silly questions.08:36
Entropy512but I don't think stinebd wands to put out mutant hybrid releases08:36
xtremist_finally08:36
xtremist_well u didnt read neopeek08:36
arrrghhhxtremist_, i haven't seen any progress on raph08:36
arrrghhhif you know progress, why the fuck are you asking me about progress08:36
ryannathansI have never looked/tried/tested 3d08:36
xtremist_i think u should visit neopeek08:36
arrrghhhryannathans, which makes the question even sillier.08:36
arrrghhhxtremist_, that's nice, i do.08:36
Entropy512ryannathans: it's semi-broken in GB08:36
arrrghhhi don't read every single thread, sorry.08:37
xtremist_http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjUyMjI0ODg4.html08:37
ryannathansthanks08:37
arrrghhhEntropy512, exactly, he's not going to just pull libs from froyo... that's childish.08:37
xtremist_this is the video of raplh booting from nand08:37
arrrghhhxtremist_, ok...?08:37
ryannathansis hyc's ril rhod specific?08:37
arrrghhhso why are you asking me about progress when you seem to know more than i08:37
Entropy512would be nice to figure out what in GB broke things08:37
arrrghhhi have a rhod, not a raph.  i can't follow every single old device.08:37
xtremist_well i thought u should knw more then me08:37
Entropy512ryannathans: good question - only tested on rhod but might work on other platforms08:37
arrrghhhryannathans, shouldn't be08:37
arrrghhhxtremist_, thanks?08:38
Entropy512I think RIL doesn't change much from device to device08:38
ryannathansarrrghhh: so it is safe to tell and xdandroid user to try it?08:38
xtremist_well as far u talking about libs i did that buh ginger gave me error of armv908:38
xtremist_nope08:38
xtremist_well08:38
arrrghhhryannathans, uhm... i wouldn't08:38
arrrghhhwithout caution08:38
xtremist_there no link available yet08:38
ryannathansoh, add that freeze on boot issue to your faq for touch pro 2 ;)08:38
xtremist_its still under develpment well that guy also doing something on diamond08:38
ryannathanslink to my fix thread08:39
arrrghhhryannathans, nah we'll just wait to integrate it.08:39
arrrghhhno point in making newbs do more hodge podge work.08:39
arrrghhhdo you even have all the binaries on your thread?08:39
ryannathansyes08:39
ryannathansim pretty sure08:40
arrrghhhlmao08:40
ryannathanswhy?08:40
arrrghhhyou make my brain hurt.  with that, i'm off to work.08:40
arrrghhhryannathans, really!??!!08:40
arrrghhhyou really don't know why08:40
ryannathansrootfs and the ril?08:40
arrrghhhyou expect newbs to shove source into the rootfs themselves?08:40
ryannathansno...08:40
ryannathansits an edited rootfs08:41
arrrghhhthat's why i was asking about binaries.08:41
arrrghhhok i didn't know if you included just source or source+binary08:41
arrrghhhhence the reason i asked...08:41
arrrghhhdamnit.  stupid widgets.08:41
ryannathanssource is there only for devs if they want to see it08:41
arrrghhhyes, that's usually what source is used for...08:42
ryannathansi have the edited rootfs for users to download and replace theirs, and the ril and instructions how to mount it, even a copy+pasteable user.conf file08:42
arrrghhhcool.  all you had to say was yes08:42
ryannathansuserfriendly ;)08:42
ryannathansi said yes08:43
arrrghhhdidn't have to go thru all that.08:43
ryannathansi wasnt quite so sure what you ment ;)08:43
arrrghhhyou said "yes... i'm pretty sure... why?"08:43
ryannathansoh were on the same track now :D08:43
arrrghhhsometimes08:43
arrrghhhif i could shake you via tcp/ip08:43
ryannathanshah yeah08:43
arrrghhhi'd shake you so violently!08:43
* ryannathans dies like an infant08:44
ryannathansxD08:44
Entropy512ok time to go to work08:44
arrrghhhlol creepy08:44
arrrghhhi need to go to work, peace08:45
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ryannathanswoot, i found out im getting a free laptop next week08:45
ryannathansmounted the ext2, working on it now08:46
ryannathansoh wow08:48
ryannathansafter ALL THIS EFFORT08:48
ryannathansthe apks are there after compiling :d08:49
ryannathansWOOT08:49
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ryannathansthis makes no sense, all i did was add them to vendor/xdandroid/msm/proprietory/ and it works?!08:54
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Detuleryannathans: hope you don't mind a personal question, but how old are you?09:03
ryannathanshow does it matter?09:05
Detuleoh about 90% of the #xdandroid line over the last week or so have come from you, I just wante dto know a little bit more09:06
Detule....you sound...young09:06
ryannathanshaha xD09:06
ryannathansyear 10, already taking university grade subjects in all my computer orientated courses including sql and php which is my main area09:08
ryannathansi wanted to start taking up c and java so i decided i would start with android09:08
ryannathanstied in well because i was sick of winmo on my rhodium09:09
Detuleyear 10, so that would translate to 2nd year of high school?09:09
ryannathans4th year of high school09:09
ryannathansi graduate in 2 years09:09
Detulehigh school in your part of the world seems to be organized differently than in north america....but that's ok, i had you pegged at around 16-1709:10
ryannathansim in Western Australia :)09:10
ryannathansour system goes years 1-6 in primary school then 7-12 in high school09:13
ryannathansi am a bit clueless with unix systems09:17
ryannathans:P getting there09:17
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JannickHello there, I'm back09:21
ryannathanshi09:21
JannickI updated all now09:22
Jannick*files*09:22
ryannathanswhat kernel you on?09:22
JannickThe system.ext, rootfs and the kernel09:22
ryannathansare you using the kernel that works?09:22
Jannick2.6.28.46-01289-gbe88ef609:22
JannickNope09:22
Jannick2.6.27.---09:23
ryannathansokay, want it fixed now?09:23
JannickIt is fixed :)09:23
JannickI tried calling someone, and it worked immediately09:24
ryannathansso you updated everything to latest and it works?09:24
JannickYup09:24
ryannathansokay, the latest kernel is stuffed09:24
ryannathansbattery life is poor09:24
ryannathansand there are other issues09:24
JannickHmm..09:24
ryannathansis your device a rhod?09:24
JannickI don't know... It's a HTC diamond 2 / topa10009:25
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ryannathansokay, topa10009:25
ryannathansgive me a minute09:25
ryannathanssure it is diamond 2?09:26
JannickI bought an 2600 mah battery from ebay about 2 weeks ago, and it's batterylife is already poor...09:26
Jannickyup09:26
ryannathansthe latest kernel has poor battery life, nothing to do with the battery09:26
ryannathansim looking for some test kernels for you09:27
JannickOk :)09:27
ryannathansare you nand or running from SD?09:27
JannickSD09:28
JannickIs nand supported?09:28
ryannathanssome people have it working, i wouldn't reccomend it09:29
ryannathansi dont see any public test kernels09:29
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JannickHmm09:30
ryannathanshave you used htc-msm-linux @ 20110316_191440?09:30
JannickNope09:30
JannickI got directly from ryannathans 20110228 to 2011031709:31
JannickWhy is your name in it? Well, awkward09:31
ryannathanslol, dont use the 1709:31
ryannathansuse a previous one, if that 28 works fine for you, use that until a new one is released09:32
JannickShould I change?09:32
JannickOk :)09:32
ryannathansthat 17 chews my fully charged battery in like 6 hours in sleep alone, its terrible09:33
JannickHoly crap09:33
ryannathansim using some testing kernel until a new stable is released, much much much better battery life09:33
JannickOh, and GPS isn't working in 1709:34
ryannathansu using froyo?09:34
JannickOk :) What telephone do you have?09:34
JannickYup, 2.2.209:34
ryannathansTouch Pro 2 (rhod110)09:34
Jannickok09:34
ryannathansdoes your gps work in the 28?09:35
JannickYup09:35
JannickBut the 3G-location service works fine in 1709:36
ryannathansdoes it work in 28?09:36
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JannickYes09:37
ryannathansanything not working in 28?09:37
Jannickthe 3g location?09:37
JannickHmm..09:37
JannickAnything.. I don't know about wifi and bluetooth because I do not use that09:37
ryannathansokay, as long as it works for you :)09:38
JannickBooting in .2809:38
JannickOh, and I had the problem with the 17 that i could not see the calibration points09:38
ryannathanson your first boot did you have a freeze? First boot as in first boot from whenever you make a new data.img09:38
JannickI don't make a new data.img...09:39
Jannick*didn't in the last few weeks09:39
ryannathansbut whenever you do, do you get a freeze on first boot?09:40
JannickYup09:40
ryannathansahh, i have a fix for that, when you change your APN does it get fixed?09:40
JannickAPN>?09:41
ryannathansaccess point name09:41
ryannathansin network settings, your provider09:41
JannickI only have one..09:41
ryannathansso how do you fix the freeze?09:42
JannickRebooting09:42
ryannathansand then its all good and gone?09:42
JannickMy calibration was so bad, I'm restarting now09:42
JannickYup09:42
ryannathanshmm okay09:42
JannickAnd booting again09:43
ryannathanswhy don't you save your calibration file?09:43
ryannathansand not ever delete it?09:43
JannickIt was a mistake.. dumb me09:44
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JannickWell, everything is working, I'll be back in a few days to report how my battery is09:56
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ryannathansbye10:00
JannickBye :)10:00
ryannathanshave fun ;)10:00
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ryannathanshey arrrghhh10:01
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IsraOtzHy...!!! I need som help here...10:01
arrrghhhhi10:01
arrrghhhIsraOtz, just ask10:02
arrrghhhdon't ask to ask10:02
ryannathans^^ this :)10:02
IsraOtzI will try xandroir on my phone10:02
arrrghhhsounds kinky10:02
ryannathansarrrghhh: didn't you go to work?10:02
arrrghhhlike some noir film10:02
* arrrghhh is at work10:02
IsraOtzbut my HTC HD is judt a copy (Chinesse)10:02
IsraOtzCan I Try anywere??10:03
arrrghhhtouch HD?  is that the blackstone?10:03
arrrghhhwhat do you mean just a copy10:03
arrrghhhso it's not the real blackstone?10:03
arrrghhhlol10:03
ryannathansits not legit?10:03
IsraOtz"anyway" (sorry)10:03
arrrghhh?10:03
IsraOtzno is not...10:03
arrrghhhyou can't expect us to support Chinese knockoffs10:03
arrrghhhwe struggle to support all of the official devices10:04
rpierce99there's a chance, if they actually used the same hardware, but i doubt very much that they did, but it doesn't hurt to try it, just don't expect us to help when it doesn't work10:04
arrrghhhlol10:04
arrrghhhyea you would've been better lying.  :P10:04
IsraOtzYes, I was thinking the same... I dont know "the minimal requirements" for xandroid...10:04
rpierce99there's no "minimal requirements" you either have the hardware or you don't10:05
ryannathansdo you know the specs of your 'import'?10:05
IsraOtzI just can say that this phone its runnin wm6.5 preety well10:05
rpierce99our kernel is made to run on very specific models of processor, wireless card, etc10:05
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IsraOtzI see... so may be it will be a hopelees cruzade for me to try Android on my Phone...10:06
arrrghhhdid you even try it?10:06
arrrghhhor are you pulling a ryannathans10:06
IsraOtzNot yet... I was on it...:)10:07
arrrghhhwhere you ask 15,000 questions before you even attempt10:07
rpierce99wouldn't exactly describe unpacking a zip file to your sd card, copying a couple of files, and running it, a crusade10:07
arrrghhhlmao10:07
arrrghhhrpierce99, for some...10:07
ryannathansrofl10:07
* arrrghhh prepares his tiny violin10:07
IsraOtzit is just a mean...10:07
arrrghhhshit i dropped it10:07
IsraOtzJa..!10:07
IsraOtzOk, folks... the reason I entered this chat was10:08
IsraOtzto know exactly how to install it10:08
arrrghhhquit using enter for puncuation10:08
IsraOtzbecause I've downloaded the file10:08
ryannathansarrrghhh: turns out i didn't need to edit the ext2, just putting the apks into vendor/xdandroid/msm/proprietary/ (the apks appear in system/apps after compiling)10:08
arrrghhhand there's a pretty simple guide on all my threads10:08
arrrghhhryannathans, ok.?10:09
ryannathansarrrghhh: would my guide be suitable for him? its that rhod guide but he would need his own startup.txt10:09
IsraOtzbut when uncompresed there is just one file (system.ext2)10:09
ryannathansyou need the bundle10:09
arrrghhhryannathans, what are my posts not good enough?10:10
arrrghhhIsraOtz, what thread are you reading?10:10
ryannathansarrrghhh: i have not seen them :P10:10
arrrghhhyou've got to be kidding me10:10
arrrghhhyou've never run an XDAndroid build?10:10
arrrghhhor you just never bothered to read how10:10
IsraOtzooooooooooooooook.... I've just reading "http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Installation_Guide"10:10
IsraOtzeasy, men... ;)10:10
arrrghhhthat's a little complex10:11
arrrghhhhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951962 <--- read that IsraOtz10:11
arrrghhhnot the whole thread, just the first few posts.10:11
IsraOtzThanks in advance...!!!  I'll try it and then lets you know... ;)10:11
IsraOtz... reading...10:12
ryannathansarrrghhh: ohh that guide, yeh i have seen that10:12
arrrghhh...10:13
IsraOtzJa... you says "not the whole thread, just the first few posts."... and it start sayng "Please read this entire post..."...:D10:13
arrrghhhyes10:13
arrrghhhas in10:13
arrrghhhread all of it10:13
IsraOtzokas! You are great folks!... see ya soon10:14
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arrrghhhi love how we answered your question ryannathans, yet you still ask it in the forums.  bravo.10:15
ryannathanswhat question?10:15
arrrghhhIs this ril strictly rhod? If not what devices does this apply to?10:15
ryannathansoh10:15
ryannathansi posted that ages before i asked10:15
arrrghhhstabstabstab10:16
ryannathanslol10:16
ryannathansanyway, i seem to have the hang of things now, no more noobness :D10:18
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arrrghhhyea, i'm sure you're not going to ask any more questions.10:19
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ryannathansi will ask questions, i will try to make them logical ;)10:20
arrrghhhyea, couldn't you have done that from the beginning tho?10:22
arrrghhhemwe, yo10:22
emwehiho arrrghhh10:22
ryannathansleaked clock apk doesnt work on froyo (widget works), leaked market works, leaked gallery3d doesnt open (crash), leaked camera doesnt open (crash) but i get the exact same issue with the stock camera, leaked music player works but as soon as you tilt it to horizontal it crashes when trying to display the album art flow10:26
arrrghhhsounds awful10:27
ryannathansleast the epic market works :d10:27
arrrghhhdoes it work better tho?10:27
arrrghhhif it works, who cares.  our market works, just like poop.10:27
ryannathansim still trying to work out which one works better10:28
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odzwoo made it to 36hrs on a single charge =D11:43
ryannathansany use?11:46
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ryannathansor was it all sleep?11:46
odz6 2-3min calls about 40~ txt through out that time11:47
ryannathanswhat kernel?11:47
odzWisTilt2's latest11:47
ryannathanssweet11:47
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stinebdarrrghhh: be advised, i've updated the edit link for the latest release on the wiki main page13:43
stinebdit now goes to http://xdandroid.com/w/index.php?title=Main_Page/Latest_Release&action=edit13:44
stinebdwhich tells you to edit the templates it includes13:44
arrrghhhah ok13:44
arrrghhhthanks man, i was baffled by that :P13:44
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infotechchickso who can help me install android on my windows mobile phone?14:12
infotechchickI'm like, tempted to buy an Android just to avoid the trouble.14:13
arrrghhhso i'm like totally not tempted to help you then14:13
arrrghhha native android device is almost always going to be better than a port.  espeically one that's only partially complete.14:14
infotechchickI've noticed.14:14
infotechchickI installed one, but I couldn't get past the "Add Gmail Account" screen.14:15
arrrghhhit's kinda common sense.14:15
arrrghhhwhat build?14:15
arrrghhhwhat phone?14:15
infotechchickI can't even count how many times I entered my gmail ino14:15
infotechchick*info14:15
arrrghhh^^^^14:15
infotechchickHTC TOuch Pro 214:15
arrrghhhok14:15
infotechchickLove the phone, but Windows Mobile is so annoying14:16
arrrghhhyou didn't answer my other question14:16
arrrghhhwhat build were you trying14:16
infotechchickOh, hold on, let me look.14:16
infotechchick2.0.1 Eclair14:17
infotechchickI tried installing the HTC Sense UI before that, but the HaRET file wasn't loading.14:18
arrrghhhgood god14:18
arrrghhhwhy so ancient?14:18
* arrrghhh recommends FRX0614:18
arrrghhhC:\Documents and Settings\cucm\Desktop\CUCM Logs\10.0.23.114:18
arrrghhher shit14:18
arrrghhhhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=95196214:18
arrrghhhdamn clipboard :P14:19
infotechchickI said the same thing haha, but it was the only one that actually loaded something... the rest didn't do anything.14:19
arrrghhhread the first few posts of that build14:20
arrrghhher thread14:20
infotechchickHahaha, thanks...14:20
hycstinebd: any feedback on my merge requests? Or just in general, did you get notified of them?14:29
stinebdhyc: yeah but i haven't looked at them yet14:29
emwehyc: does your series of patches included freeze-fixes for cell tower switches or low signal area traveling?14:32
emweused to work on one route i drove previous weekend, but yesterday i had to like 5 times reset my phone.14:32
emwedoes anybody else see issues still?14:32
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hycemwe: sadly, I'm seeing the same thing now, will need to bisect and find where it went wrong14:36
hycbut so far I haven't been able to reproduce reliably. And was beginning to suspect the 4/2 kernel.14:36
arrrghhhwell i haven't had a single SoD in ages.14:37
hycsince kernel and ril are the only things I've changed in the past week, when the problem has started to resruface14:37
arrrghhhbut i'm always in good service areas...14:37
hycand the patches to RIL in that time have nearly all been CDMA-related, so no effect on my phone.14:37
arrrghhhodd14:38
hycbut yes, last night while driving around town it hung on me twice. once going to my destination and after resetting, again on the drive home.14:38
hycI would say that some of the hangs have definitely been fixed and remain fixed though14:42
emwehyc: yes, i think it was better after some of the initial commits compared to "stock".14:42
arrrghhhhrm14:43
hycLooking at my logs after the phone slept OK all night, I saw the wifi going idle 15 minutes after I left the phone.14:43
hycthat explained one of the most immediate hangs I sued to always get14:43
hycused to14:43
hycWifi goes idle, phone switches back to mobile data, that transition used to always hang14:44
emweno wifi here. ;)14:44
hycI also saw the mobile data terminate exactly 60.4 minutes later, all night long14:44
hycwhich is just T-Mobile shutting it down for 1 hour of idle time14:44
hycand that caused hangs in the past too. But that is also fixed, pppd is shut down gracefully, connection is re-established, and it goes on again for the next hour.14:45
hycso all that remains to be tested is apparently hangs due to signal loss14:45
infotechchickto <arrrghhh> okay, so I get to the "Lauch a Script file" screen... what do I do now?14:51
arrrghhhinfotechchick, uhm... did you grab the correct startup.txt?14:51
infotechchickI didn't change any paths... I extracted it directly to the SD card...14:52
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infotechchicki'm not running HaRET from a folder...14:53
arrrghhhso14:53
arrrghhhyou still need a startup.txt14:53
arrrghhhyou just don't need to modify the startup.txt if you are running from the root of the SD14:53
infotechchickGotcha, just move it there?14:53
arrrghhhwas that not one of the steps?  :P14:54
arrrghhhmove, copy, whatever.14:54
arrrghhhharet needs to know how to startup bascially14:54
infotechchickHa, it may have been... I thought it was only if you are running Android from a folder... but I'll move it.14:54
arrrghhhwithout it, haret just runs... and waits for cxns if you want to use haretconsole.14:54
arrrghhhno14:54
arrrghhhthe rel_path= modification is if you're running from a folder.14:54
infotechchickAhhhhhh gotcha114:55
infotechchick!14:55
infotechchickIt's the Rhod Tilt 2, right?14:55
arrrghhhwhat?14:55
arrrghhhi don't know what RHOD you have.14:55
arrrghhhtp2=rhod14:55
arrrghhhbut there's several RHOD's.14:55
infotechchickOnly one of them say for Tilt 2... mine is a tilt14:55
arrrghhhoy14:56
arrrghhhi'm betting you didn't read the FAQ either14:56
arrrghhhdo you have an AT&T branded device?14:56
infotechchickSome of them..14:56
infotechchickand no, T-mobile14:56
arrrghhhthat's 210 then14:57
arrrghhhthe FAQ i link to14:57
arrrghhhin my thread.14:57
arrrghhhthe only FAQ that matters :P14:57
arrrghhh(at least in this context)14:57
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infotechchickI hope it actually worrks this time... it's at the XDANDROID animation screen now15:03
arrrghhhwel that's better15:04
arrrghhhwell*15:04
infotechchickThaaaaaanks :)15:05
infotechchickIt's madness, I'm in school to develop mobile software, but I'm having trouble installing an operating systen15:05
infotechchick*system15:06
arrrghhhno comment.15:06
infotechchickI wonder if I should be offended by that... hmmmm....15:06
hycre: phones the ril works on - it just depends on the phones' radio versions15:07
arrrghhhwell if it helps, i offend a lot of people.15:07
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hycIt looks to me like the GSM side of rhod400/500 does not support all the commands that the pure GSM phones do.15:07
fishhead2567pardon me, will XDAndroid on a TP2 be able to tether?15:08
hycbut that's just a guess. so far nobody has given any logs from GSM rhod400/500.15:08
infotechchickWell it worked :) now I just gotta get it to let me turn my phone the right way...15:08
arrrghhhfishhead2567, yea.  read the FAQ15:08
infotechchickIt's only sideways15:08
arrrghhhpress the back button15:08
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fishhead2567sorry arrrghhh =/ RTFM FTW15:09
fishhead2567thanks tho =)15:09
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infotechchickThere we go... it's lagging but it's still syncing, so I'm not gonna trip just yet...15:10
arrrghhhfishhead2567, i wrote that FAQ for a reason.  that reason was not so i would perpetually answer and re-answer the same questions over and over.15:10
arrrghhhinfotechchick, let it sit after the first boot.15:10
arrrghhhlots of things happening in the background...15:11
infotechchickI figured as much..15:11
fishhead2567arrrghhh, i know i know. And what is ironic is i had read the wifi tehtering part... just didnt read the usb15:11
arrrghhh:P15:11
arrrghhhi'm talking to you right now using that usb tether method ;)  works much better than wifi IMHO15:12
infotechchickIt does... I used it on my Motorola Cliq...15:12
emwehyc: if my rhod400 arrives i can get you some ril logs.15:12
fishhead2567arrrghhh, i will try the tether app. i hope it works. I want to tether my xoom and WIMO won't let me15:13
infotechchickI want that Cliq 2... my dad comes back from Iraq next month, I'm getting it when he comes.15:13
arrrghhhoh... usb tethering won't work so well with the xoom i would imagine fishhead2567.  the built-in tethering app throws up an actual AP, it's just flaky.15:13
arrrghhhdoes the xoom not recognize ad-hoc networks, or is that just an android thing?15:14
fishhead2567arrrghhh, yah i cant get the built in to bridge wifi and 3g. im on att and i wonder if thats the problem15:14
fishhead2567arrrghhh, i cant seem to get any android on ad-hoc15:14
arrrghhhatt doesn't allow you to tether for free15:14
fishhead2567most models have a fix, but xoom (well honeycomb) is too new15:15
infotechchickAT&T suckas ass15:15
arrrghhhand android may not like ad-hoc.  seen wifi-ace?  i heard it helps.15:15
fishhead2567it does on cyanogenmod, won't work for honeycomb yet15:15
fishhead2567and yes they do15:15
fishhead2567but all us providers do15:15
fishhead2567arrrghhh, att cant tell if u tether they just disable all the normal apps for doing it in their phones15:15
arrrghhhfishhead2567, not true.  i tether on sprint all day long no problems.15:16
fishhead2567arrrghhh, so if u have a tether app its fine, i tether my laptop all the time, just the damn xoom wont15:16
fishhead2567arrrghhh, oh nice!15:16
arrrghhhi <3 sprint15:16
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fishhead2567hmm think i did something wrong. my XDAndroid's market doesnt have Easy Tether15:19
fishhead2567ahh ive heard of this. ATT connections wont let u see tethering apps i think15:19
arrrghhhone word?15:19
fishhead2567yup15:19
arrrghhhhrm15:19
fishhead2567i can access it via pc market15:19
fishhead2567and it says it isnt compatible with my phone15:20
arrrghhhweird, i didn't think our builds cared what provider you were on.15:20
fishhead2567maybe im outdated?15:20
arrrghhheasytether, one word showed up for me.15:20
arrrghhhi don't use any market enabler oddities either.15:21
fishhead2567no matches15:21
fishhead2567strange...15:21
arrrghhhwow.  must be att, i just don't get why.15:21
fishhead2567i can probably get the apk for the lite version15:21
arrrghhhyea, it's free.15:21
fishhead2567i dont know. How could they know?15:21
rpierce99market enabler was made to change your location and carrier information15:22
arrrghhhthey're big blue, they know all.15:22
arrrghhhma bell15:22
arrrghhhrpierce99, yea exactly.15:22
arrrghhhi'm saying i'm not doing it so there's no reason that it would show up in mine but not his (AFAIK)15:22
fishhead2567arrrghhh, except that im att and ur sprint right?15:23
fishhead2567the market app itself might be doing it15:23
fishhead2567using the connection library to see i am on att and disabling options?15:24
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arrrghhhfishhead2567, perhaps.  yes, i am on sprint.15:24
stinebd[14:13:42] <arrrghhh> so i'm like totally not tempted to help you then15:26
stinebdhaha15:26
stinebdarrrghhh does have a way with the ladies15:26
fishhead2567arrrghhh, i am redownloading kernel, rootfs, and initrd. will this put me at the lastest march 25th release. I see the system update ext file but i really dont know what dto do with it15:27
arrrghhhstinebd, lol, i'm not trolling for poon here.15:27
arrrghhhfishhead2567, just grab my frx06 bundle15:28
arrrghhhthat has the most updated/stable stuff in it.15:28
fishhead2567arrrghhh, update: pc market says "this item not available on your carrier"15:29
arrrghhhfishhead2567, :(.  att sucks, find an APK.15:29
arrrghhhif worse comes to worse i'll post the one i dled.15:29
fishhead2567i will or ill grab market enabler and try that15:29
fishhead2567is market enabler a market app?15:29
arrrghhhyes, but i haven't gotten it to work correctly.15:30
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fishhead2567I wooonnndeerrr15:34
fishhead2567arrrghhh, think I could not fix the startupfile on tilt 2, have it open with no net, wifi it. download tether15:34
fishhead2567then provision it15:35
arrrghhhno clue15:35
arrrghhhi don't think startup has anything to do with it tho15:35
arrrghhhit's your carrier...15:35
arrrghhhstinebd, aren't you on att?15:35
stinebdyes15:36
arrrghhhin the market, are you able to see the easytether app?15:36
arrrghhhi've never heard of this issue before.15:36
stinebdhttp://www.mobile-stream.com/easytether/android_faq.html#att15:37
infotechchickIT WORKS!!15:38
arrrghhhinfotechchick, don't sound so surprised.15:38
infotechchickNow, it won't go back to Windows Mobile if I turn it off, right?15:38
arrrghhhinfotechchick, lmao of course it will15:38
infotechchickAnd I'm not, I'm just happy :)15:38
arrrghhhyou haven't flashed anything15:38
arrrghhhyou're running the OS from the SD15:39
arrrghhhnothing has changed on your phone.15:39
infotechchickSHIT!!15:39
arrrghhh...15:39
infotechchickHow do I flash it?15:39
arrrghhhit's not possible yet15:39
stinebdfor carrier-restricted applications (probably only affects gsm), you need to shut down and remove the sim15:39
arrrghhhi mean it is, but i'm not going to show you how to do it.15:39
infotechchickSHOOOOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!15:39
arrrghhh...15:39
infotechchickWhy not??15:39
arrrghhhbecause, i'm just an asshole.15:39
infotechchickHm.15:39
stinebdit's far beyond your level of comprehension15:39
infotechchickI guess.15:39
infotechchickSeriously?15:39
odzyep15:40
infotechchickWow, ass hole.15:40
arrrghhhyes, seriously15:40
stinebdit would be dangerous and most likely ineffective15:40
fishhead2567infotechchick, im confused why do u want to flash?15:40
arrrghhhthat and it's not ready for general consumption.15:40
arrrghhhinfotechchick, despite your name, you are general consumption.15:40
infotechchickI think I will justbuy a new phone... an Android. I hate WinMo15:40
arrrghhhthen do it15:40
fishhead2567infotechchick, XDAndroid piggybacks on the wimo drivers for certain apps. Flashing could ruin your phone. im in your boat F^^& wimo15:40
stinebdif you have money then that's your best option15:40
arrrghhh^^15:40
stinebdi'm not being mean when i say flashing is way too advanced for you, i'm just telling the truth15:41
arrrghhhfishhead2567, that's not entirely true anymore, most of the hardware we are now initializing ourselves.15:41
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stinebdit gave me problems and i'm the one who creates the system images15:41
fishhead2567arrrghhh, oh sweet =)15:41
infotechchickWell thanks fishhead2567 because YOU'RE nice.15:41
midnightHi all15:42
fishhead2567infotechchick, haha tank you. i dont think the others were trying to be mean tho. I think sadly they get too many people who say "I FLASH NOW YEEY WAIT FUCK YOU BROKE MY PHONE BOOHOO" so its a good strategy to say "no. i wont help you get mad at me later"15:42
infotechchickHe said it's way too advanced for me, like I'm stupid or something.15:42
arrrghhhinfotechchick, NAND flashing isn't ready yet for the masses, get a grip.15:43
infotechchickIf that's the case, then say that.15:43
stinebdi'm not in a position to judge your stupidity15:43
arrrghhhlmao15:43
infotechchickI won't blame anyone, hell, I'm grown.15:43
stinebdbut it requires a very deep knowledge of the hardware and system15:43
stinebdthat it's too advanced says more about it than you15:43
fishhead2567infotechchick, nah. its like saying "Advanced relativistic particle physics is too advanced for you" flashing scares the hell outta me ()_()15:43
infotechchickHmmm... I suppose.......15:44
infotechchickWell hell, time to start phone shopping..15:44
infotechchickF^^K Windows!15:44
fishhead2567infotechchick, =) damn right. Does anyone have a suggestion for good android phones?15:44
stinebdnexus one still rocks15:44
arrrghhh...w00t?15:44
stinebdand it runs gingerbread natively15:45
stinebdand you can still get the tmo version if you have a developer account15:45
fishhead2567arrrghhh, i got your bundle. Reading instructions, this one doesnt seem to need or use the andboot directory does it15:46
infotechchickI was thinkimg about the Cliq 2... yes or no?15:46
stinebdno15:46
stinebdmoto trash15:46
arrrghhhfishhead2567, you can put it in whatever directiory you wish sir.15:46
fishhead2567arrrghhh, haha okay15:46
stinebdtmo is kinda slim pickings lately15:46
stinebdas far as devices go15:47
stinebdactually i'd hold off if i were you anyway15:47
stinebdsince they're being bought out15:47
arrrghhhyea, dual core phones are in the wings15:47
arrrghhhlol that too15:47
fishhead2567join /##pythom-friendly15:47
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stinebdstop spamming your cybersex channel15:47
arrrghhhuh15:47
arrrghhhslash goes first15:47
fishhead2567haha15:47
arrrghhhlol15:47
fishhead2567whoops15:47
infotechchickkkk15:47
infotechchickOops15:47
infotechchicklol15:47
arrrghhhi didn't peg you for a klan member infotechchick15:48
infotechchickHahaha, I'm not one15:48
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fishhead2567ah wait crap..15:48
stinebdillegal whats?15:48
infotechchickI was testing the Enter button... it was doing things15:48
arrrghhhlol15:48
midnightlol15:49
fishhead2567arrrghhh, booting bundle. hopefully this will woork15:50
arrrghhhdid you see stinebd's suggestion?  no SIM, you should be able to get the app.15:51
arrrghhhobviously wifi is your only option at that point.15:51
fishhead2567arrrghhh, that's okay. i can use wifi for now then inset sim after15:51
arrrghhhyup.  once you have the apk, who knows if it'll work or not.  hopefully it does, it's dependent on adb.15:52
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midnightwhat are you talking about?15:52
F22speaking of tmo, gotta agree with stinebd on the cliq2 stay away from it. best phone on tmo right now without a kbd is the samsung s 4g which is basically a nexus s with hspa+ and sd card support. tmo should be getting a pair of tegra2 phones from htc and lg in the next few months also.15:52
stinebdi hate how all the new phones are coming without useful notification leds15:53
stinebdi'm highly dependent upon my n1's rgb led15:53
F22that sucks. leds are relatively cheap to add and give such peace of mind to my geeky soul. :P15:54
stinebdthe atrix has a single, one-color one-rate notification led15:54
arrrghhhlame15:54
DweezahrHello all, this is fantastic software, but there are still some flaws that are not being tested yet15:57
Dweezahrthe racoon daemon is crashing in both gbx0A and FRX0615:57
F22regarding tmo, word is the htc sensation/pyramid which has the tegra2 will get officially announced in 4 days will be coming to tmo. no word on launch date.15:57
arrrghhhracoon daemon?!?15:57
Dweezahrlogs on android show that: E/racoon  ( 2025): Cannot create KEY socket15:58
Dweezahris this a module that is missing and can be loaded with insmod?15:58
arrrghhhgood lord, that's obsecure Dweezahr15:58
arrrghhhwhat do you need it for?15:58
DweezahrI am using IPSec/L2TP with x.50915:58
stinebdlol, yes probably missing modules15:58
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stinebdnot sure if they get built15:59
Dweezahrah, okay, no one understood my questions in the android channels15:59
arrrghhhDweezahr, yea you're probably the only one who has ever asked about that lol15:59
Dweezahryeah15:59
arrrghhhXDAndroid != Android yet :P15:59
arrrghhhif ever...15:59
DweezahrI have no idea what Key socket can be16:00
DweezahrI only have experience with openswan on linux16:00
arrrghhhwhoosh16:00
stinebdugh why is there an american sporting event on the japanese channels every time i tune in?16:01
fishhead2567intersting16:01
arrrghhhbecause everyone loves americans16:01
stinebdgolf on tbs right now16:01
stinebd(borderline sport)16:01
fishhead2567arrrghhh, lates build: no simcard = RUNS SO SLOW IT HURTS =P16:01
arrrghhhlmao16:01
fishhead2567arrrghhh, worth it tho16:02
stinebdyankees were on nhk yesterday (also borderline)16:02
arrrghhhfishhead2567, wait for it to finish booting.16:02
fishhead2567arrrghhh, it did, i am at desktop. or will i need to wait a littlemore (honest not sarcastic)16:02
stinebdruns fine with no sim for me16:02
fishhead2567stinebd, might be cuz its first boot16:02
arrrghhhfishhead2567, honestly.  even after the desktop shows.16:03
fishhead2567stinebd, may need to get the gears going16:03
arrrghhhi usually let it sit for 5 mins after the desktop shows.16:03
stinebdit's a solid state system, no gears :P16:03
fishhead2567arrrghhh, yah. but it may just be a first boot thing. Oh ok16:03
arrrghhhjust so i'm not wanting to throw the phone at the wall16:03
stinebdunless you install the glxgears test16:03
fishhead2567haha16:03
arrrghhhlol16:03
fishhead2567stinebd, what phone16:04
stinebdwhich phone do i have? raph and rhod16:04
stinebdraph110, rhod300 and rhod40016:04
fishhead2567argh. i think the screen calibration is the problem. something is wrong. which file is it i delete to reset that16:05
arrrghhhdidn't make a shameless plug for the n1, i'm impressed stinebd16:05
arrrghhhfishhead2567, faq!  ts-calibration16:05
stinebdarrrghhh: that one doesn't run xdandroid anymore16:05
arrrghhhyea, but still.16:05
arrrghhhyou always seem to enjoy puttin us down by pointing out how awesome this or that runs on your n1 :P16:06
stinebdangry birds rio runs great on it16:06
stinebdi assume16:06
arrrghhhlol16:07
arrrghhhthe benchmark app for android, angry birds.16:07
fishhead2567arrrghhh, sigh.. tilt2 wifi is not working with XDA16:07
arrrghhhLIES16:07
arrrghhhdid you mess with the kernel or modules at all?16:08
fishhead2567arrrghhh, not working with mine =( but my phone has been dropped a few times16:08
arrrghhhvanilla bundle, wifi should work out of the box.16:08
fishhead2567arrrghhh, nope straight download your pakage, move tilt 2 startup to root then reboot into cda16:08
fishhead2567er xda16:08
rpierce99i think some people have to fuss with wifi-nvram.txt to get wifi up out of the box16:09
rpierce99not sure though16:09
arrrghhhhrm.  i dunno, works for most out of the box.  i just responded to a post in the forums, a few have to muck with the wifi-nvram16:09
arrrghhhdamnit16:09
arrrghhh:P16:09
arrrghhhso i guess we never figured out the root cause for that issue/16:10
arrrghhhvery rarely do i ever get people that complain about wifi flat out not working, and having to use that nvram trick.16:10
fishhead2567arrrghhh, it activates, scans, then shuts off16:11
arrrghhhdoesn't show any networks?16:11
arrrghhhdoes it say error or anything like that?16:11
fishhead2567nope16:13
fishhead2567just turns off16:13
arrrghhhwell i dunno.16:14
arrrghhhwithout logs, can't really tell anything.16:14
arrrghhhi can't read minds, and i really can't read phone's minds.16:14
fishhead2567ill mess with wifi-nvram16:14
arrrghhhyea, there's a thread on xda-devs on the topic.16:14
DweezahrI have mailed to the IPsec-tools mailinglist with the problems related to racoon, and with the question what modules can be missing that prevents racoon from creating a 'KEY socket'16:17
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DweezahrFurtheron, I like the GBX0A, but it crashes for me all the time, because some programs require location services, which are unavailable in the version.16:19
arrrghhhyes.16:20
hycOK, I put my phone into my microwave oven. (without turning on the oven.)16:25
hycsignal strength drops to 2 bars.16:25
hycThat's T-Mobile for ya, 1700MHz, microwave ovens are 2300MHz.16:26
Dweezahrits a metal cage16:26
hycthis would have completely killed the signal on AT&T 3G16:26
arrrghhhhyc, turn it on high for 20 mins.  film it.16:26
hyc:P16:26
emwethen his RIL is likely to break.16:27
arrrghhh:D16:27
hycnow it's in a ziploc bag in the fridge16:27
arrrghhhlmao16:27
arrrghhhoh the things we do..16:27
hycso far I haven't been able to force it to hang16:27
hycso I'm thinking it may be a cell tower handoff, not just a loss of signal16:27
emweexactly. just had my phone play sex toy. vibrating when out of sleep. and there's that sleep bug on .35 still16:27
emwe(that was regarding.. oh the things we do...)16:28
arrrghhhemwe, giggity?16:28
hyc.35 ? you're running a 2.6.35 kernel?16:28
hycI tried to compile it a few weeks ago, failed16:28
arrrghhhemwe, i cannot wait for you to get your rhod400.  there's some things that i need you to confirm/deny.16:28
arrrghhhi guess i could just steal the SIM from my neighbor's celly16:28
odzwow he didnt get it yet?16:28
emwehyc: yap. but way less advanced hten .27. but less butchered. (alex on his .35 kovsky tree is way further)16:28
emweodz: nope.16:29
odzdamn that was one of the first things i read about when i started coming here :P16:29
emwelol16:29
emwearrrghhh: crashes due to netloc on gbx0a?16:30
arrrghhhemwe, noes.  folks with CDMA world phones say that newer kernels the GSM radio dies on sleep.16:31
arrrghhhso when the phone is turned off, can't get calls, sms...16:31
emwethat used to be the case for me sleep_mode=0 on topa+.2716:31
emwealways use 1/1 for the time being.16:31
hycpulled the logs after my walk into the canyon, switched between 2G and 3G without trouble16:33
hycso far it's all behaved as it ought to. :P16:34
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Entropy512fishhead2567: the problem you're having sounds like you're one of the ones who needs to fuss with wifi-nvram.txt16:43
Entropy512your description sounds almost exactly like the symptoms I had16:43
fishhead2567thinkin so16:43
fishhead2567just finished the sudo copy commands16:43
fishhead2567do i need to reboot or can i try enabling wifi?16:43
Entropy512I think you need to reboot16:44
fishhead2567kk16:44
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fishhead2567takes SO LONG on rhod300 =P16:44
Entropy512I can't remember, I may eventually have bind-mounted it to avoid the need to redo it when changing system images or wiping data16:44
fishhead2567hrmm?16:45
Entropy512there are tricks for making a file on your SD card appear on one of the system or data filesystems16:45
Entropy512bind-mounting = "bind --mount" commands in sdcard/conf/froyo.user.conf16:45
Entropy512I may just not have wiped my data partition (i use a partition instead of data.img)16:46
Entropy512don't feel like grabbing phone atm to refresh memory, tired after work.  :)16:46
Entropy512seems like Dweezahr's report is another in the category of "VPNs don't work"16:49
Dweezahrbasically, that is what it is yes16:49
Entropy512unfortunately since none of the devs need VPN, it hasn't received much attention, esp. since the devs are still chasing stability issues16:50
Entropy512I might poke at VPN in the next couple of weeks as a distraction from the GPS code16:50
Entropy512which still makes my head hurt16:50
Dweezahrokay, gps works in 2.2 but not 2.3 right?16:50
Entropy512correct, it's missing some stuff in 2.2 which I'm sort of slowly poking at16:51
Entropy512but it mostly works - just slow to lock16:51
Entropy512apparently the driver needs to be rearchitectured for 2.316:52
Entropy512but since I have no idea what the architectural differences are - I'm probably not the one for that effort16:52
Entropy512I'm better at fixing minor things/tweaking stuff that's near-working16:53
Entropy512I suck at major architecture overhauls16:53
Entropy512:)16:53
DweezahrI think the IPSEC daemon is nearly working16:53
Dweezahrwhen comparing the logs to a normal instance, there is only the KEY socket error16:53
DweezahrDo you have a server to expirmentate with?16:54
DweezahrI am running IPSec/L2TP with radius here with a PKI16:54
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hycah, life's a bit easier with a Quickboot Reboot shortcut on the homepage16:55
hycand the gscript Start Log shortcut16:55
Entropy512Dweezahr: nope, no server to experiment with16:55
Entropy512I've seen a few reports that PPTP is also broken16:55
Entropy512so I was going to poke at that sometime in the next week or two16:56
Entropy512actually16:56
Entropy512what I poke at depends heavily on what DD-WRT on my router supports.  :)16:56
Dweezahroh, no that is usally crap16:56
Dweezahrpptp is fine16:56
Dweezahrbut ipsec part, maybe working normally, but then no l2tp i assume16:56
Entropy512hyc: yeah, I need to set up gscript and set up a start log script16:57
Entropy512may as well grab radio logcat, system logcat, and dmesg all in one16:57
Entropy512:)16:57
hycheh good idea, I don't have dmesg in my script right now16:57
hycwould be nice to get continuous pull from kernel log, I dunno if /dev/klog works16:58
fishhead2567balls16:59
fishhead2567no luck16:59
fishhead2567Entropy512, after i copy over the file with my mac address i dont need to do that at each boot right?17:01
Entropy512correct17:01
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fishhead2567Entropy512, k. I am thinking i did it wromng. doublechecking17:08
Entropy512going to poke at my phone a little17:08
Entropy512I did it so long ago I can't remember.  :P17:08
Entropy512ok, looks like it's in /data/wifi-nvram.txt on my phone17:10
Entropy512which would be the root of data.img for you17:10
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fishhead2567yah17:33
fishhead2567no love =(17:33
fishhead2567rats17:37
fishhead2567i will get such a boner if this ever works...17:38
fishhead2567but NOOO17:38
fishhead2567HOT DIGGITY DAMN!17:44
fishhead2567wifi came on =)17:44
emwehyc: your androidhtc1 branch in it's current state is not usable anymore with "stock" userland, right?17:45
fishhead2567now ive got barnccle and eztether17:45
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fishhead2567gotta go18:06
fishhead2567update: barnacle works... still wont pair to xoom18:06
fishhead2567llater all18:06
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madplaya1i got a question anyone online ?21:19
MassStashyea21:20
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rpierce99wow MassStash i'd feel insulted, he didn't even bother asking22:17
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Madplaya1I keep getting files that start with FSCK000 something like that, could that because of HaRet? Sorry, I couldn't ask you earlier my computer was messing up ,& it froze lol.23:51
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ryannathansadd a line to your user.conf to delete these files each boot23:55
ryannathansthey are not needed23:55
ryannathansadd rm -f /sdcard/*.rec to the custom commands in your user.conf file23:56

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