Wednesday, 2011-03-30

arrrghhhstinebd, yo00:11
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Kralnarrrghhh: tell me it's arrive00:37
arrrghhhnope00:37
arrrghhhand usps hasn't changed00:37
Kraln<- disgruntled00:37
arrrghhhyea...00:38
arrrghhhusps sucks.00:38
arrrghhhi wonder if it's caught up in customs somewheres?00:38
KralnI shipped something to norway and it got there in four days00:38
arrrghhhwtf00:38
arrrghhhso uh... who calls to bitch?00:39
arrrghhhcan i just call them with a tracking #?00:39
arrrghhhand be like wtfyodig00:39
KralnI don't know :00:39
Kraln:|00:40
arrrghhhi'll call them tomorrow00:40
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xdandroidDonation received! Thanks, Israel S., who says: I really thank you for this project. really good work.04:28
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* Bladdysbryd bounces in09:57
Bladdysbrydok09:57
Bladdysbrydare we ready to completely bugger up my HTC?09:57
* Bladdysbryd grins09:57
arrrghhhuhm09:58
arrrghhhdo you have a question?09:58
arrrghhhor are you my Nightmare09:58
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BladdysbrydI dunno09:59
BladdysbrydI was in here earlier this week10:00
BladdysbrydI have the guide that ryannathans gave me for putting droid on my HTC Touch10:00
Bladdysbrydthe phone is unlocked10:00
arrrghhhdon't need it to be unlocked10:00
BladdysbrydI have a brand new 2GB microSD card10:00
arrrghhhk10:00
BladdysbrydI do10:00
arrrghhhdo you have a problem?10:00
BladdysbrydxD10:00
Bladdysbrydnot yet10:00
arrrghhh...10:00
arrrghhhok10:00
BladdysbrydI am gonna do it now10:00
Bladdysbrydand if I have any questions or need a pointer10:01
BladdysbrydI can ask10:01
arrrghhhthat's what this room is for10:01
Bladdysbryd:D10:01
BladdysbrydI figure being in here while I do it is a good thing10:01
Bladdysbrydconsidering I am a complete noob10:01
arrrghhhok...10:02
arrrghhhbe sure to read10:03
arrrghhhlots10:03
arrrghhhlots of reading10:03
Bladdysbrydhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980079 << that's what I got given10:03
arrrghhhuhm10:03
arrrghhhthat's a good overview10:03
arrrghhhbut doesn't really get you running10:03
arrrghhhthat's more after the fact10:04
arrrghhhwhen you have questions after it's running10:04
arrrghhhhow to update it, etc.10:04
BladdysbrydI figure getting it running is a good place to start?10:04
Bladdysbrydupdates and all that kinda stuff I can learn after I know it works10:05
arrrghhhexactly10:05
arrrghhhso that thread isn't so useful for you right now...10:05
arrrghhhyou have a touch hd?10:05
arrrghhhor whut10:05
BladdysbrydHTC Touch HD10:05
arrrghhhblackstone eh10:05
Bladdysbrydrunning WinMo 6.110:05
Bladdysbrydyeah10:06
arrrghhhthose things are finnicky :P10:06
BladdysbrydThanks for the confidence boost >.>10:06
arrrghhhi don't have one, so i don't know how well the xdandroid bundles run on it.10:06
Bladdysbrydas if I wasn't nervous enough10:06
arrrghhhlol10:06
arrrghhhif you're nervous, stick to winmo.10:06
arrrghhhbut this really can't damage your phone10:06
arrrghhhjust act wacky and cause you to miss calls10:06
Bladdysbrydthe SD card is FAT format10:07
arrrghhhthat would probably be the worst case scenario10:07
arrrghhhmissing a call10:07
Bladdysbrydshould it be anything other than that?10:07
arrrghhhok10:07
arrrghhhFAT3210:07
Bladdysbrydok, formatting happening10:07
Bladdysbryddefault allocation size?10:07
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Bladdysbrydor does that not matter so much10:08
arrrghhhi don't think it matters10:08
arrrghhhare you formatting with the HP tool?10:09
arrrghhhor smth similar?10:09
arrrghhhjust please god not the built-in Windows or WinMo tools10:09
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Bladdysbryderrr10:09
BladdysbrydI can format with the HP tool if you really want me too10:10
arrrghhhlol10:10
Bladdysbrydlink to d/l?10:10
arrrghhhso you are using the built-in windows tool?10:10
arrrghhhit's in my threads10:10
arrrghhhbut10:10
arrrghhhhttp://www.eocfiles.com/bdc86eb1ed2989c30dcd1902e84939ae/bootdisks/SP27608.exe10:10
Bladdysbryd...I was intending too10:10
arrrghhhdon't10:10
arrrghhhit's worthless10:10
arrrghhhbuilt in windows tool for formatting is crap10:10
Bladdysbrydyou fill me with confidence about my machine10:11
Bladdysbrydyou know that right?10:11
Bladdysbrydshould I dual boot into linux instead to do this?10:11
* Bladdysbryd grins10:11
arrrghhhnot a requirement10:11
arrrghhhbut makes development a heckuva lot easier10:12
oddzboo gb doesnt like hyc's ril :/10:13
oddzdata doesnt come back after it sleeps for a while10:14
arrrghhhi thought the location of the RIL in gb was different10:14
oddzya it is10:14
oddzits /system/lib10:15
Bladdysbrydok, formatted using HP tool to FAT3210:16
Bladdysbrydo_O10:18
arrrghhhok10:19
Bladdysbrydhow do I find out if my HTC is GSM or CDMA?10:19
arrrghhhLOL10:19
arrrghhhyou don't know!?!10:19
arrrghhhdo you use SIM cards?10:19
Bladdysbrydwould I be asking if I did?10:19
arrrghhhlol10:19
BladdysbrydI do10:19
arrrghhhi guess not10:19
arrrghhhthen you're GSM10:19
Bladdysbrydthanks ^_^10:19
arrrghhhnp10:20
Bladdysbrydwhat 'droid build would you recommend?10:21
arrrghhhfrx0610:21
Bladdysbrydthank you10:22
arrrghhhnp10:22
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Bladdysbryddo I just drop everything onto root and let it run? or do i actually need to build a file system?10:26
arrrghhhbuild a file system?10:27
arrrghhhyou mean like folders!?!?10:27
arrrghhhyou can do whatever you want in that respect, just gotta change a value10:27
Bladdysbrydmhm10:27
arrrghhhit's all in the first post of my thread.10:27
Bladdysbryd...10:28
Bladdysbrydthank you10:28
arrrghhhlet me know if something doesn't make sense, i try to make the installs painless as possible.10:28
arrrghhhi'm constantly grooming the first post :P10:28
Bladdysbrydwhich is your thread?10:28
arrrghhhFRX06?10:30
oddzbleh usb debugging doesnt seem to work in gb10:30
arrrghhhhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=95196210:30
arrrghhhoddz, it did for me, just took a second to come up10:30
arrrghhhand didn't always show up in the notifcation bar...10:30
oddzadb doesnt find it10:32
arrrghhhunplug->replug?10:32
Bladdysbrydwhat happened to step 5.? **panics** you jumped from 4 straight to a profiting 6!10:33
arrrghhhlol10:33
* Bladdysbryd chuckles10:33
arrrghhhi guess you don't watch south park10:33
arrrghhhit is a joke, a throwback to an episode from that show10:33
arrrghhhthe underpants gnomes10:33
arrrghhhnvm...10:33
* Bladdysbryd grins10:34
Bladdysbrydwill I need to edit anything in the startup text?10:34
Bladdysbrydor leave it default for now?10:34
* Bladdysbryd has already moved the Blackstone to root10:35
arrrghhhthen you can leave it default10:35
arrrghhhassuming everything is at the root10:35
Bladdysbrydit is10:37
Bladdysbrydjust grabbing the ts calib file now10:37
arrrghhhk10:37
Bladdysbrydanything else I need to do except what is in your first post?10:42
arrrghhhgod i hope not10:42
arrrghhhyou tell me if i missed anything10:43
arrrghhhhow 'bout that ;)10:43
Bladdysbrydso I can insert my sim, insert the SD, boot the phone, run this haret thingie then cry if it doesnt work?10:43
arrrghhhyou can cry if it does work10:44
arrrghhhi don't care10:44
arrrghhh:P10:44
BladdysbrydThanks xD10:44
Bladdysbrydok10:45
Bladdysbrydhere we go :)10:45
arrrghhhgogogo10:45
BladdysbrydI'm going! It's WinMo.... it takes longer than Win7 to boot o_O10:46
BladdysbrydTouchFlo is loading now10:47
arrrghhhwas your phone off?  lol10:47
Bladdysbrydit was10:47
BladdysbrydxD10:47
arrrghhhOo10:47
arrrghhhmine's nevar off10:47
arrrghhhunless it's broken or frozen :P10:47
Bladdysbrydit's asking to run default.txt o_O10:48
Bladdysbrydchange that to startup I assume?10:48
arrrghhhwhat?10:48
arrrghhhok10:48
arrrghhhstartup.txt needs to go at the root of the SD10:48
arrrghhhalong with haret10:48
arrrghhhzImage10:49
arrrghhhetc10:49
Bladdysbrydit has10:49
BladdysbrydI did everything you said10:49
arrrghhhwell you're missing something10:49
Bladdysbrydgot it10:51
Bladdysbrydo_O10:51
BladdysbrydWelcome to Vogue Linux10:51
Bladdysbrydthen a lot of repeating lines saying 'Waiting for SD Card'10:52
arrrghhhhrm10:53
Bladdysbrydwhich now fills the screen10:53
arrrghhhi assume you didn't change anything else?10:53
arrrghhhthat kernel should work...10:53
Bladdysbrydnope10:53
Bladdysbryddidn't change a thing10:53
arrrghhhand you just formatted the card...10:53
BladdysbrydI did10:53
arrrghhhhmmmmm10:54
arrrghhhthat was an issue with different clocks in the past10:54
arrrghhhit was resolved in newer kernels10:54
arrrghhhwhich... 1276 should have the fix in it10:54
Bladdysbrydit's just splurged a lot of data at me10:54
Bladdysbrydthen gone back to 'Waiting for SD Card'10:54
arrrghhhyou didn't do anything silly like pull the SD?10:55
arrrghhh:P10:55
Bladdysbryd...10:55
Bladdysbrydno10:55
Bladdysbrydno I didnt10:55
Bladdysbryd/proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_message" disables this message10:55
Bladdysbrydwas all I could read out of all the random data10:56
arrrghhhstill flying?10:56
Bladdysbrydstill pumping out this 'Waiting for SD Card'' message10:57
Bladdysbrydoh10:57
Bladdysbrydsame data splurge again10:57
Bladdysbrydwith that /proc/sys thing10:57
BladdysbrydINFO: task rpcrouter:15 blocked for more than 120 seconds10:57
Bladdysbrydwas the first line of the data splurge10:57
Bladdysbrydshall I pull the battery?10:58
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Bladdysbrydumm11:16
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Bladdysbrydok11:17
BladdysbrydI need a coffee11:17
Bladdysbrydbrb11:17
arrrghhhsorry on the phone with a vendor11:18
arrrghhhdoesn't seem like it's going to boot11:19
arrrghhhhit the soft reset pin, pull the battery, whatever works.11:19
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arrrghhhF22, ping11:30
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F22what's up arrrghhh?11:31
arrrghhhjust curious of your thoughts on that spanish keyboard11:31
arrrghhhdid you know there was such a beast?11:31
F22yes11:32
arrrghhhOo11:32
arrrghhhdon't tell me it's like the cryllic crap11:32
arrrghhhand not doable :P11:32
F22nah, spanish uses the latin alphabet.11:32
arrrghhhorly11:32
arrrghhhoh11:32
F22so it's plenty doable.11:32
arrrghhhi knew that11:32
arrrghhhbut why is there no keyboard layout for it?11:33
F22just needs its own keymap file.11:33
arrrghhhcool11:33
F22nobody has created one for it.11:33
arrrghhhjust surprised it's taken this long to come up...11:33
F22there are actually like over a dozen rhod100 language phones, we only have keymaps for a small subset of them.11:33
arrrghhhdamn11:34
arrrghhhstinkin rhod100's.11:34
F22and for all i know there may even be south american versions. dunno about those since nobody has ever brought them up before.11:34
arrrghhhhrm11:35
arrrghhhwell someone bumped your thread with a nice pic of the kbd11:35
F22lol11:35
arrrghhh;)11:35
F22i'll take a look11:35
arrrghhhoh and i need to harrass you11:35
arrrghhhCOMMIT11:35
arrrghhh:D11:35
F22lol11:35
Bladdysbrydback11:36
Bladdysbrydok, reset it arrrghhh11:36
Bladdysbrydany ideas?11:36
arrrghhhBladdysbryd, well11:36
arrrghhhi can't say i'm a fan of trying this11:36
arrrghhhbut there's some jibba jabba you can add to your startup.txt that will hopefully resolve that waiting for sd issue11:36
arrrghhhi swear newer kernels have resolved it, i don't know why you're running into it.11:36
Bladdysbryddo you have a link?11:37
arrrghhh1 sec11:37
arrrghhhi'm finding the commands11:37
arrrghhhopen your startup.txt they go in thar11:37
Bladdysbrydok11:38
arrrghhhmsmsdcc_1bit msmsdcc_fmax=1400000011:40
arrrghhhput that in the cmdline section11:40
arrrghhhbetween the quote11:40
arrrghhhs*11:40
arrrghhhmake sure there's one space between each commnad11:41
arrrghhhcommand*11:41
arrrghhhbothers me tho, you shouldn't need to do that...11:41
arrrghhhdurn blackstone11:41
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Bladdysbrydset cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmvkeyb_toggle=off msm_blackstone_pad.vibrate=1 gsensor_axis=-2,-1,3 pm.sleep_mode=1 msmsdcc_1bit msmsdcc_fmax=14000000"11:42
arrrghhhyup11:42
arrrghhhhey11:43
arrrghhhthat cable head-end i built is on engadget... again.11:43
Bladdysbryd?11:43
arrrghhhhttp://www.engadget.com/2011/03/30/big-cable-backed-broadband-bill-soars-through-nc-house-one-step/11:43
arrrghhh(i used to build cable head-ends for a living)11:43
BladdysbrydxD11:43
Bladdysbrydok11:43
Bladdysbrydsaving .txt, rebooting11:44
arrrghhhi had no idea what i was working on at the time was going to be so big.11:45
arrrghhhi knew it was a unique concept, local power company providing internet tv and voice11:45
arrrghhhbut damn... i've seen SO many articles on that greenlight company now.11:46
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Bladdysbrydstill doing it11:49
BladdysbrydWaiting for SD Card11:49
arrrghhhwtf11:49
arrrghhhthat's the only reason i've heard of that error11:49
arrrghhhEVERYTHING is at the root of the SD?11:49
Bladdysbrydwant me to screenshot it for you and show you?11:49
arrrghhhyou just extract the FRX06.zip, get the FRX06 folder and drag everything in that folder to the root of your SD?11:50
Bladdysbrydyup11:50
arrrghhhbleh11:50
arrrghhhi've honestly never heard of that issue happening that didn't get resolved by a newer kernel or that line in the startrup11:50
arrrghhhstartup*11:50
Bladdysbrydone moment11:52
Bladdysbrydscreenshot incoming11:52
arrrghhhhrm11:53
arrrghhhi'm not calling you a liar...11:53
BladdysbrydI know11:53
arrrghhhi'm just grabbing at straws11:53
arrrghhhF22, you have any ideas?11:53
Bladdysbrydbut if you can see it, you might have an idea11:53
Bladdysbrydtrust me11:53
Bladdysbrydif I thought you would, I'd have you remoting in11:53
arrrghhhi don't think there's a blackstone-specific issue here, but there could be.11:53
arrrghhhhahaha, we're talking about that in -chat.11:54
Bladdysbrydhttp://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=370611:56
Bladdysbrydthere11:56
Bladdysbrydgo look11:56
arrrghhhyes sir11:56
BladdysbrydxD11:57
Bladdysbrydsorry11:57
arrrghhh:P11:57
arrrghhhlooks cherry11:57
Bladdysbrydo_O11:57
Bladdysbrydthat must be an american thing11:57
arrrghhhlol11:57
arrrghhhi'll ask around real quick, i think someone else has a blackstone that i know11:58
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F22arrrghhh: does it work with an older pre 1245 kernel?12:10
arrrghhhhrm12:10
arrrghhhi was thinking there's a blackstone-specific kernel as well12:10
* Bladdysbryd is quite happy to try whatever you guys think will work12:11
F22that's when that issue was introduced into the main kernel.12:11
xdandroidDonation received! Thanks, Lukas K., who says: Thank you for the effort of porting Android to the TP2. Much appreciated!12:11
F22what kernel is he using?12:11
arrrghhhF22, oic12:11
arrrghhh127612:11
arrrghhhwhich should've had the fix...12:11
arrrghhhBladdysbryd, do you have another SD to try?12:12
arrrghhhjust to see12:12
arrrghhhif it is the SD12:12
Bladdysbryder no12:12
arrrghhhi assume your card is classless as well?12:12
Bladdysbrydmy old phone uses sony cards12:12
arrrghhhor is it c412:12
arrrghhhsuck12:12
BladdysbrydI went and bought this brand new today12:12
arrrghhhdoublesuck12:12
Bladdysbryda SanDisk 2GB microSD12:12
arrrghhhcan you look on the card itself12:13
arrrghhhis there a C and a number?12:13
Bladdysbrydif I take it out the phone12:13
Bladdysbrydyes12:13
arrrghhhlike C4 or C10?12:13
arrrghhhyes please12:13
arrrghhhunless you have x-ray vision.12:13
Bladdysbrydope12:13
Bladdysbrydnope12:13
Bladdysbrydno C anythinf12:13
Bladdysbrydanything*12:13
Bladdysbrydhave I got the wrong card?12:14
oddzbleh blinking sod...gb sucks :P12:14
arrrghhhok time to be nit-picky12:16
arrrghhhBladdysbryd, did you do a full format with the HP tool?12:16
BladdysbrydI did12:16
arrrghhhdamnit.12:17
arrrghhhi blame F2212:17
arrrghhhsorry i've gotta go test this kernel... hopefully someone else jumps in.12:17
F22can you get the dmesg?12:17
arrrghhhBladdysbryd, have you checked the blackstone section?12:18
* Bladdysbryd panics12:18
Bladdysbrydthe what message?12:18
F22arrrghhh may have instructions for that lying around somewhere.12:19
arrrghhhFAQ12:19
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arrrghhhbbl, must test new kernel!12:19
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Bladdysbrydgreat12:20
Bladdysbrydhe breaks my phone and runs >.>12:21
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F22he'll be back12:33
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Bladdysbrydwhat was this you were saying about using an earlier kernal?12:40
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Bladdysbrydarrrghhh, any pointers?12:50
arrrghhhOo still stuck?12:50
arrrghhhdid you check the blackstone section?12:50
Bladdysbrydcheck it for what?12:50
arrrghhhyour issue...12:50
arrrghhhi guess i could search for you12:51
* Bladdysbryd googles12:51
Bladdysbrydno no12:51
BladdysbrydI'll doo it12:51
Bladdysbrydbloody butterflies >.>12:53
arrrghhheh?12:54
arrrghhhnever heard anyone hate on butterflies lol12:54
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Bladdysbrydall I can find is this section12:57
BladdysbrydMy SD Card doesn't seem to work, why?12:57
BladdysbrydMost SD Cards are working, but if you the 'waiting for SDCard' message, you should try one of these fixes (and please let us know if it works)12:57
BladdysbrydFix 1: Format your card with this tool http://www.sdcard.org/consumers/formatter/12:57
BladdysbrydFix 2: Edit your startup.txt file and add these red entries to your cmdline:12:57
Bladdysbrydset cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmts_calib=0x395.0x3c9.0x79.0x77 clock-7x00.a11=500 msmvkeyb_toggle=off pmem.extra=1 gsensor_axis=-2,-1,312:57
Bladdysbrydmsmsdcc_1bit msmsdcc_fmax=14000000 msmsdcc_nopwrsave"12:58
BladdysbrydFix 3: Tell your wife / girlfriend that you are about to make some modifications to her phone... change the ringtone and steal her old Class 2 SD Card to use with Android. She will never discover what you have done, and if she does, you'll be able to use Android to send texts to your former girlfriends ;-)12:58
Bladdysbrydmy gf uses a sony phone too12:58
Bladdysbrydso no go there >.>12:58
arrrghhhholy paste dude12:58
Bladdysbrydsorry :/12:58
arrrghhhlol12:58
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arrrghhhBladdysbryd, did you try those things?13:02
arrrghhhseems like we might've missed one there.13:02
arrrghhhby we i mean me.13:02
arrrghhhthe nopwrsave one13:02
Bladdysbrydtrying it now13:02
BladdysbrydI just reformatted with HP13:02
arrrghhhkk13:02
Bladdysbrydextracting the FRX06 folder to it now13:02
arrrghhhfun times13:03
arrrghhhmust get water, brb13:03
arrrghhhnothing's blown up?13:07
arrrghhhaw13:07
Bladdysbrydok13:08
Bladdysbrydhere we go13:08
BladdysbrydFRX06 copied13:08
Bladdysbrydstartup.txt placed with extra line13:09
Bladdysbrydts calib file copied to root13:09
Bladdysbrydhere we go13:09
arrrghhhkk13:09
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BladdysbrydWaiting for SD Card13:09
* Bladdysbryd cries13:09
Bladdysbrydhang on13:10
Bladdysbrydhousemate has an old Tocco13:10
BladdysbrydI will go see if she has an SD card in it13:10
arrrghhhTocco?13:10
arrrghhhoh13:10
arrrghhhok13:10
BladdysbrydF48013:10
Bladdysbrydsamsung13:10
arrrghhhnext thing we can try is a different kernel13:10
Bladdysbrydok13:10
arrrghhhthere was some blackstone specific kernel floating around.13:10
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Bladdysbrydcan we try that then?13:13
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arrrghhhheh13:24
arrrghhhsure13:24
arrrghhhhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=99954413:26
arrrghhhso look at the attached files13:26
arrrghhhthere's a rootfs and a kernel/modules13:26
arrrghhhyou can use both, but the kernel/modules are blackstone specific.13:26
Bladdysbrydso, what do I do with them in regards to where I put them on the SD?13:27
arrrghhhreplace your existing zImage and modules13:28
arrrghhhi believe i guide you thru that in my first post ;)13:28
arrrghhhlet me know if it doesn't make sense, i try to make it as easy to understand as i can...13:28
BladdysbrydI know13:28
Bladdysbrydyour guide is awesome13:28
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arrrghhhthx13:28
arrrghhhi try to cover the major points13:28
Bladdysbrydok13:30
Bladdysbrydhere we go again13:30
BladdysbrydWaiting for SD Card >.>13:31
Bladdysbrydso if trying a new kernal doesnt work13:31
Bladdysbrydand adding lines to the startup doesnt work13:31
Bladdysbrydwe can only assume it is the SD Card?13:31
arrrghhhi would think so13:36
arrrghhhdidn't you try a different one?13:36
Bladdysbrydshe doesnt have one13:37
Bladdysbrydthe only thing I can think of is going buying another13:38
arrrghhhdamn guy13:38
Bladdysbrydwhat 'C' should it be?13:38
arrrghhhc4 seems to be the sweet spot13:38
arrrghhhwhat class is that card?13:38
arrrghhhi don't think you answered that either.13:38
Bladdysbrydit doesnt say13:38
arrrghhhmust be classless then13:38
arrrghhhon the packaging either?13:38
arrrghhhusually they trumpet the class on the packaging13:38
BladdysbrydI binned the packaging already >.>13:39
arrrghhhhrm13:39
arrrghhhi dunno man13:39
Bladdysbryddont worry about it13:39
BladdysbrydI will get one tomorrow13:39
arrrghhhpost up in the blackstone forums13:39
Bladdysbrydin fact13:39
BladdysbrydI might go get one now13:39
arrrghhhsee if a friend has a card you can borrow13:39
BladdysbrydI REALLY want droid13:39
arrrghhhor buy another if you really don't mind :P13:39
arrrghhhget a name brand13:39
Bladdysbrydwinmo is SHIT13:39
arrrghhhwinmo is shit13:39
arrrghhhdroid isn't perfect yet on our devices13:40
arrrghhh;)13:40
arrrghhhjust keep that in mind.13:40
Bladdysbrydrather imperfect droid than WinMo13:40
arrrghhhIMHO still less buggy than winmo tho lol13:40
arrrghhhhehe indeed13:40
Bladdysbrydso long as I can browse the interwebs (wifi isnt needed) take the occasional picture (but lets face it, the Touch camera isnt anything special) and handle calls and sms messages plus the occasional droid app I am fine13:41
arrrghhhk13:42
arrrghhhthat should all work, but you may run into hiccups.13:42
arrrghhhcheck out the blackstone forum, perhaps there's some golden nugget of info13:42
arrrghhhbtw, what brand card is that one you just bought?13:42
BladdysbrydTeam microSD apparently13:44
Bladdysbrydhttp://direct.tesco.com/product/images/?R=208-648013:44
Bladdysbrydwill that suffice13:44
Bladdysbrydclass 4 apparently13:44
arrrghhhbleh13:45
arrrghhhget a name brand dude13:45
arrrghhhkingston13:45
arrrghhhsandisk13:45
Bladdysbrydin the UK, integral is a brand name o_O13:46
arrrghhhwell13:46
arrrghhhi mean a good brand name :P13:46
arrrghhhwal-mart is a brand name here but i wouldn't buy a sd card made by them lol13:46
Bladdysbryd...13:46
Bladdysbrydfair point13:46
BladdysbrydI will be back in about an hour with a branded SD card of class 4 speed13:47
arrrghhhheh okie13:47
arrrghhhtake that other one back if you can!13:48
Bladdysbrydno packaging13:48
Bladdysbrydwon't happen13:48
BladdysbrydxD13:48
arrrghhhaw13:48
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arrrghhhfood time14:00
arrrghhhbb14:01
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emwestinebd: ping.14:07
TheDeadCPUpong14:08
blazedsm:/14:14
NeoMatrixJRping stinebd14:17
NeoMatrixJRoh, been done already...14:17
* NeoMatrixJR breaks out the smelling salts..."WAKE UP STINEBD!!"14:18
* TheDeadCPU pokes stinebd with a stick14:21
* NeoMatrixJR "He's dead Jim"14:27
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hycemwe: forgot if I already told you, but Android.mk is fixed for top-level now too14:42
emwehyc: i am watching the repos. already did a build ;) thx for fixing that one!14:42
hyc;) cool14:43
emwejust investigating gingerbreads libsensors. it somehow looks only accell sensor is handled, yet.14:43
emwestinebd: am i right?14:43
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manekinekohyc, you asked me for my radio log on XDA, do you have an email I could send it to you?14:51
hycsure it's on my xda profile14:52
hycheck. hyc@highlandsun.com14:52
manekinekocool thanks14:52
manekinekogreat work on this by the way14:53
hycthx. it will probably be much slower till nhext week14:54
BladdysbrydYES!!!14:56
* Bladdysbryd dances14:57
manekinekoyeah, saw your post on XDA14:57
Bladdysbrydso14:57
Bladdysbrydharet is at Creating a new Data store14:57
Bladdysbrydis this bit likely to take a while?14:57
manekinekoBladdysbryd, normally takes like 20 secs or so14:58
manekinekomaybe less14:58
Bladdysbrydok14:58
Bladdysbrydis that true for a first boot?14:58
manekinekothe whole first boot probably takes 5-10 minutes14:58
Bladdysbrydok14:59
BladdysbrydI will leave it to it and go grab a shower or something then14:59
Bladdysbrydok15:03
Bladdysbrydgot th XDANDROID logo on the screen15:04
Bladdysbrydit keeps looping15:04
Bladdysbrydnormal?15:04
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hycmanekineko: doh. stupid typo in signal strength response15:09
hycthread updated, please try new version15:11
Bladdysbrydheya hyc15:15
Bladdysbrydhows it going?15:15
Methoseso is the xda-dev channel dead now?15:16
MethoseI'm totally in the wrong place, eh?15:16
hycgoing ok15:18
hycmanekineko: your log shows you received an sms. hope it wasn't important...15:18
BladdysbrydI got droid Touch nau hyc :D15:18
Bladdysbrydhmm15:24
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odzyay nice kernel15:39
odznew*15:39
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hyccool15:48
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manekinekoare there any expected negative results from not setting a SID?15:50
hycthe phone will always think it is roaming15:50
hycprobably only cosmetic15:51
manekinekocool15:51
manekinekoI don't suppose that could potentially improve my signal?15:51
manekinekobecause the phone won't try to prefer one network15:51
hycnah, no effect at all15:51
hycthe phone is programmed with a preferred roaming list already15:52
manekinekoare effects like that lower level, at the radio firmware level?15:52
manekinekook15:52
hycand the radio does whatever it's programmed to do.15:52
hycthis is merely telling android wrong info.15:52
manekinekowhere is the preferred roaming list set?15:52
hycSo android might be confused, but the phone will always work as intended15:52
hycthe phone downloads it from the network15:53
manekinekocool15:53
hychttp://www.androidcentral.com/how-update-your-prl-your-cdma-device15:54
manekinekooh right, that thing15:54
hycyes, that thing :P15:55
hycdon't make me teach you how to use your phone...15:55
manekinekohaha15:55
Bladdysbrydbah15:59
Bladdysbrydit keeps freezing15:59
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Bladdysbrydarrrghhh!!16:01
Bladdysbrydnew SD card works16:01
Bladdysbrydonly16:01
arrrghhhheh16:01
Bladdysbrydit freezes not long after booting into android16:01
arrrghhhwhat kind did you buy?16:01
BladdysbrydKingston class 4 4gb16:01
arrrghhhgood boy16:02
Bladdysbrydand the calibration is flipped16:02
Bladdysbrydright is left left is right16:02
arrrghhhg-sensor?16:02
Bladdysbrydtouchscreen16:02
arrrghhhuh16:02
arrrghhhwhat do you mean then16:02
arrrghhhhow can right be left on a touch screen16:02
arrrghhhlike you touch the right of the screen and it hits something on the left?16:03
arrrghhhlol16:03
Bladdysbrydyup16:03
arrrghhhhrm16:04
arrrghhhperhaps the ts-calib for RHOD doesn't work for BLAC :P16:04
Bladdysbrydyou think?16:04
Bladdysbryd:P16:04
arrrghhhhahaha16:04
arrrghhhsmartass :P16:04
Bladdysbrydrebooting it now after it's latest freeze16:05
arrrghhhso freezing on boot... you might be a good test case for my apns-conf.xml16:05
Bladdysbrydnot freezing on boot16:05
arrrghhhdon't boot right back to android16:05
Bladdysbrydfreezing soon after boot16:05
arrrghhhneed to do a couple of things16:05
Bladdysbrydlike16:05
arrrghhhyea that's what i meant sorry :P16:05
Bladdysbrydoh16:05
Bladdysbrydok16:05
Bladdysbrydsure16:06
BladdysbrydI dont mind gerbiling somethign for you16:06
manekinekohyc, I still have no signal strength, though it looks different in the logs now16:06
manekinekoalso, it may be a coincidence, but now I have no data16:06
Bladdysbrydok16:07
Bladdysbrydcos I was already booting to droid anyways16:07
Bladdysbrydarrrghhh16:07
arrrghhhBladdysbryd, well neopeek is down so the post i was going to link you to for ts-calib is... unavail.  but you can still be my gerbil :D16:07
hycno data huh, send me new log16:07
BladdysbrydI went to unlock the screen16:07
arrrghhhoh you are booting already?16:07
hycalso get a timestamped regular logcat to go with it16:07
Bladdysbrydthe slide animation didnt work16:07
Bladdysbrydbut it did unlock16:07
arrrghhhok it's loading now16:07
Bladdysbrydpushed the midle button at the bottom on the screen to go to settings16:07
arrrghhhhttp://www.neopeek.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=6420 <--- Bladdysbryd16:07
Bladdysbrydand the screen died and now the phone is unresponsive16:07
hycmanekineko: or did you already email me?16:08
arrrghhhBladdysbryd, so wait take a step back16:08
manekinekohyc, just sent it16:08
manekinekolet me see about regular logcat16:08
arrrghhhare you in winmo right now or is it stuck in this state presently?16:08
* Bladdysbryd whips arrrghhh into PM16:08
arrrghhhraep tiem?16:08
hycmanekineko: I just see NO CARRIER in your log, so the data call actually failed16:10
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manekinekook, sent you the logcat to go with it16:12
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manekinekomaybe I should try rebooting and see if data comes back16:13
manekinekothough this was off a fresh boot16:13
hychm no16:13
hycI see one time it got a CONNECT16:13
hycbut still reported it as a failure16:13
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hycso I must have broken that16:13
manekinekobtw, arrrghhh, the button lights are working sweet16:14
arrrghhhmanekineko, w00t16:14
arrrghhhi might've jumped the gun on that kbd repeat issue16:14
arrrghhhi posted an update :P16:14
hycyour signal strength reports are all over the place, down to 0 and up to 7 or 816:14
manekinekoit's plausible they're all over the place16:14
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manekinekoI seem to remember on the old RIL seeing lots of jumps between 4 bars and 0 bars16:15
hycdo you have any other phones there to compare?16:15
hycseems really weird16:15
manekinekoyeah, I could16:15
manekinekoI could have a lot of signal path issues here16:15
manekinekolots of tall buildings16:15
hycahhh ,ok16:15
manekinekoI don't suppose you have a link to the previous version of the RIL with working data?16:16
manekinekoI'm about to duck out for a bit16:16
manekinekoand it'd be nice to have working data16:16
manekinekothough not a huge deal if you don't16:17
manekinekobetween the new RIL and the new kernel, fingers crossed SOD is gone for good16:17
hycsorry, I deleted it16:17
manekinekook, np16:17
manekinekooddly, the Android signal strength bar never goes anywhere, also 0 bars16:18
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manekinekoand status seems to show 0 asu as well whenever I check16:19
hycyeah, that's not rusprising16:19
hycfor CDMA the values are supposed to be dBM, like 0-110 or so16:19
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hycso stuffing 0-7 in there obviously doesn't do much for it16:20
manekinekonot able to just scale it for now?16:20
hycyes16:20
hycbut I needed to see what the actual range of values coming from the phone is16:20
manekinekoincidentally, that link you sent me for the PRLs, is that System Updates thing supposed to actually work? I've never observed it actually find any updates before16:20
hycI dunno what the max scale from the phone is16:20
hycnot a clue16:20
manekinekook, well gotta run16:21
manekinekothanks for the hard work16:21
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arrrghhhso what carrier is this16:36
arrrghhhLady_Esma, ^^16:36
Lady_EsmaMovilnet from Venezuela16:37
arrrghhhzomg16:37
arrrghhhthey're CDMA?16:37
arrrghhhhave you tried entering the info in the APN?16:37
Lady_EsmaYAp cdma Evdo revA16:37
arrrghhh^^16:37
Lady_Esmaok i tried apn16:38
Lady_EsmaBut when I try to set mnc and mcc it just dont save that conf16:38
arrrghhhnot mnc and mcc16:39
arrrghhhthe username and password16:39
Lady_EsmaI did it16:39
Lady_Esmabut i doesn't work that way16:40
Lady_Esma:S16:40
arrrghhhwell CDMA doesn't really use APNs16:40
arrrghhhso the mnc and mcc can't be configured if you have force_cdma=116:40
Lady_Esma I know16:40
Lady_EsmaI have already force_cdma=116:41
Lady_EsmaI have phone calls16:41
Lady_Esmaand sms16:41
Lady_EsmaI got clue from here16:41
Lady_Esmahttp://xdandroid.com/wiki/Kernel_boot_command-line_parameters16:41
Lady_Esmappp.apn PPP Access Point Name, e.g. "internet" ppp.nostart 1: disable starting the PPP connection on boot ppp.password The password used to connect to the network when dialing #777. ppp.username The username used to connect to the network when dialing #77716:42
Lady_EsmaI tried those comand line boot option but it's useless16:42
arrrghhhi don't think it's used anymore16:43
arrrghhhshould be in the PAN16:43
arrrghhhAPN16:43
Lady_Esma:S16:43
arrrghhhso you can't just configure the user/pass?16:44
Lady_EsmaI use it that way just Fill NAme:Movilnet APN:internet"can't be null"  user:"xxxx" password:"xxxx"16:44
Lady_EsmaI use the same password and user that I use on WINMO 6.5 and it doesnt works...16:45
arrrghhhthe APN is selected?16:45
Lady_EsmaWhen browser tries to connect there is no service16:45
Lady_EsmaOf course the apn is selected16:45
arrrghhhlol16:46
Lady_EsmaSelected with settings saved etc.....16:46
arrrghhhit doesn't get selected by default16:46
arrrghhhso it's easily missed16:46
Lady_Esma....16:46
Lady_EsmaIt's selected16:47
arrrghhhok16:47
arrrghhhi'm not sure then.16:47
arrrghhhyou can try my APN trick if you wish16:47
arrrghhhnot sure it'll help you tho16:47
arrrghhhhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12512051&postcount=46916:47
Lady_EsmaOmg I was reading about that16:49
arrrghhhyea... don't think it'll help you16:49
arrrghhhbut it's worth a shot16:49
arrrghhhif it helps, i'm going to prod stinebd into letting me bundle it16:49
Lady_EsmaHumm16:51
Lady_EsmaThat file is like an Apn directory16:52
arrrghhhyes16:52
arrrghhhit is16:52
arrrghhhi linked to the source16:52
arrrghhhit's from cyanogenmod16:52
Lady_EsmaSo this is the reason beacuse if i changen the mnc and mcc it just cant take it16:53
Lady_EsmaMissmatch the list16:53
arrrghhhi don't know for sure, but it's worth a shot16:53
arrrghhhif it works, then that was/is the reason i'd say.16:53
Lady_Esmaomg16:54
Lady_Esma<apn carrier="Movilnet" mcc="734" mnc="06" apn="int.movilnet.com.ve" type="default,supl" />   <apn carrier="Movilnet MMS" mcc="734" mnc="06" apn="mm.movilnet.com.ve" mmsc="http://mms2.movilnet.com.ve/servlets/mms" mmsproxy="192.168.16.12" mmsport="8080" type="mms" />16:54
Lady_EsmaIt jus bad luck T_____T I feel really sad16:55
Lady_EsmaMy carrier uses CDMA and GSM at the same time16:55
Lady_EsmaI think that apn is for GSM not for cdma :S16:55
Lady_EsmaI'll try your file first!16:56
arrrghhhyea i was reading that online16:56
arrrghhhthat is odd16:56
arrrghhhbut i guess c'est la vie16:56
Lady_Esma>_> ......16:57
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Lady_EsmaI'm on debian How do i mount the image?16:57
arrrghhhfroyo.user.conf is the easiest way16:58
arrrghhhdoesn't matter what system you're on.16:58
arrrghhhthat command i put in there assumes the file goes at the root of your SD16:58
arrrghhhthen put that command in the CustomCommands section in your froyo.user.conf16:58
arrrghhh(in the conf directory)16:58
Lady_Esmaok16:59
Lady_Esmabrb17:00
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Lady_Esmaarrrghh o_o¡?17:07
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Lady_EsmaHow I can activate EVDO CDMA data with #777 dialing using User/password, On rhod500 with frx0617:32
Lady_EsmaAy idea?17:32
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Lady_Esma the kernel boot parameters such as ppp.apn ppp.user and ppp.pasword still works, for CDMA Evo connections¡?17:41
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Lady_Esmaarrghhh i had no luck with your file17:54
arrrghhhsad17:55
arrrghhhit helped this other dude :P17:55
arrrghhhso perhaps it only helps GSM17:55
arrrghhhyou don't have a SIM in right?17:56
Lady_EsmaU_U17:56
arrrghhhthat would cause no service tho methinks17:56
Lady_EsmaOf course not17:56
arrrghhhok17:56
arrrghhhyour carrier is both, gotta check!17:56
arrrghhhwell... that's rough.  i don't have a user/pass to login...17:56
arrrghhhit's blank.17:56
arrrghhhhow about this17:56
arrrghhhmodify the apns conf for your info?17:56
arrrghhhkinda a PITA17:57
arrrghhhbut if you get it added to that CM list17:57
arrrghhhand i can convince stine to use it17:57
Lady_Esmaomg i got something17:58
Lady_EsmaCDMA Data isn't working. Sometimes this is caused by incorrect or missing APN settings. When Android boots up, go to Settings -> Wireless & Networks -> Mobile Networks -> Access Point Names. You should see an entry with Name: Android (or CDMA Generic), and APN: internet. If this entry is not active, activate it. If you see nothing, hit menu (the button with the house), create a new APN, and put in the settings Name: Android and A18:00
Lady_Esmahttp://forum.ppcgeeks.com/android-tp2/113441-android-running-us-cellular-data-service-solved-most.html18:00
arrrghhhuhm18:00
arrrghhhdidn't i ask you to try that in the first place?18:00
arrrghhhnot exactly that drawn out...18:01
arrrghhhbut i did say add an apn...18:01
arrrghhhyou said you did18:01
arrrghhhand it was selected18:01
Lady_Esmapap-secrets needs to look like: Code: username@uscc.net * username options.smd1 needs to have: Code: user username@uscc.net18:01
Lady_EsmaNo18:01
Lady_Esmathey are talking about changing two files18:02
Lady_Esmapap-secrets18:02
arrrghhhweird18:02
Lady_Esmaand options.smd118:02
arrrghhhthat's some strange voodoo18:02
arrrghhhuscc sucks18:02
Lady_EsmaOn my country EVDO rules and GSM sucks18:03
arrrghhhi <3 Sprint18:03
Lady_EsmaTheres no Android cdma phone on my country yet18:03
arrrghhhbut there's some shitty CDMA carriers here18:04
arrrghhhCricket for example18:04
arrrghhhor MetroPCS18:04
arrrghhhUSCC is another one18:04
arrrghhhshitty little regional carriers with poor service.18:04
hycwell, in xdandroid, the username and password are passed into ril, and it writes the pap-secrets file18:04
Lady_EsmaAnd I wont buy a gsm android with a poor internet connection18:04
hycpretty sure the info comes from the APN18:04
arrrghhh^^18:04
arrrghhhi would think so too18:04
arrrghhhbut i guess she said that doesn't work?18:04
arrrghhhdoesn't save the info or some such18:05
Lady_EsmaI'm waiting for HTC Bravo (Desire) WIth Evdo18:05
arrrghhheven when making a new APN Lady_Esma ?18:05
arrrghhhfocus18:05
Lady_EsmaOK18:05
Lady_EsmaI try to make a new apn18:05
Lady_EsmaIt's all ok with user and password18:05
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Lady_Esmabut when i try to change the mns and mcc and i save the apn it just got erased from anp list18:06
Lady_Esmaapn*18:06
hycdon't change those18:06
hycthey are ignored on CDMA phones. leave them as-is.18:06
Lady_EsmaIf I try without changing mnc or mcc i get no service18:07
arrrghhhindeed18:07
arrrghhhCDMA doesn't use it18:07
arrrghhhLady_Esma, on the second APN?18:07
Lady_EsmaOK18:07
Lady_EsmaIf I set just the user and password18:07
Lady_Esmathe apn is saved18:07
Lady_EsmaI SELECT OT from list18:07
Lady_EsmaI fi try to connect then i get no service18:08
stinebdNeoMatrixJR: PLEASE stop highlighting me without actually saying something. out with it already.18:08
Lady_EsmaIT*18:08
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hycProbably need to see a radio logcat18:08
hycarrrghhh, can you walk thru that?18:08
arrrghhhoh noes18:08
arrrghhhdats a too complex massa18:09
hyc:P18:09
hycthat's why i didn't do it myself ;)18:09
Lady_Esma....18:09
arrrghhhlol right18:09
arrrghhhi just love how you volunteer me for it :P18:09
Lady_EsmaOk18:09
NeoMatrixJRHe LIVES! and I was just about to head home...go figure.  Saw the FRX06 post and wondered if you included any of the BT stuff jb said he sent you or if that's coming in a later release.18:09
Lady_EsmaSend me a link18:09
arrrghhhyou have adb?18:09
hycwell..... I *asked*18:09
arrrghhhLady_Esma, ?18:09
arrrghhhhyc, it's nbd just giving you crap ;)18:10
Lady_Esmano18:10
arrrghhhLady_Esma, you have debian?18:10
Lady_EsmaYes18:10
Lady_EsmaWheezy18:10
hycwe don't have a terminal bundled on frx huh18:10
arrrghhhlol18:10
arrrghhhwheezy18:10
arrrghhhis that really a name of one of their versions?18:10
NeoMatrixJRwoops..and now I forget to highlight: stinebd: He LIVES! and I was just about to head home...go figure.  Saw the FRX06 post and wondered if you included any of the BT stuff jb said he sent you or if that's coming in a later release.18:10
arrrghhhi guess not any worse than natty narwhal18:11
Lady_Esmahttp://www.debian.org/releases/testing/18:11
stinebdNeoMatrixJR: later release pending testing18:11
Lady_EsmaI love it *_*18:11
arrrghhhLady_Esma, k.  grab the sdk ---> http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html18:12
Lady_EsmaSo x_x?18:12
NeoMatrixJRstinebd: :( ok, well then I better pull all my BT resources so I can drop them into FRX06.  Also, did you happen to make a FRX05->FRX06 OTA update?18:12
stinebdNeoMatrixJR: i made one but haven't released it, i believe the updater is currently broken in rootfs18:13
stinebdfor froyo18:13
NeoMatrixJR:(18:13
arrrghhhopen the pipes matey, prepare for full download18:13
NeoMatrixJRwell, time to back up and make a new data then.... :(18:13
stinebdyou can update system.ext2 without wiping data18:14
arrrghhhdon't need to do that18:14
arrrghhh^^18:14
NeoMatrixJRI thought a new system required new data.img???18:14
arrrghhhNeoMatrixJR, assuming you're moving between signed images, it should work18:14
arrrghhhno18:14
NeoMatrixJRoh18:14
arrrghhhdoesn't mean it will work18:14
arrrghhhalways be prepared to blast out if funkiness ensues18:15
NeoMatrixJRcoolness.  I'll back up just in case.18:15
Lady_Esmau_u Once I used android I started to hate WINMO18:15
arrrghhhyea i think we all hate winmo18:15
arrrghhh'cept maybe Tandyman10018:15
stinebdthe froyo upgrade path has been stable since FRX0118:15
Lady_EsmaThe market :S T_____T18:15
arrrghhhor jesusfreak, who doesn't love us anymore because he has an hd2 now18:15
arrrghhhstinebd, wanted to ask you about the APN list from CM...18:16
stinebddo i need to sync it?18:16
arrrghhhcan we (ie you) use it?18:16
stinebdours is from cm18:16
arrrghhhwhat do you mean by sync it18:16
stinebdbut old18:16
NeoMatrixJRI currently hate them both on my phone right now, but mostly because android likes to lock up and I miss calls/txts w/o knowing about it...18:16
arrrghhhoh18:16
arrrghhhyea please18:16
arrrghhhsync18:16
arrrghhhlol18:16
stinebdfile a bug18:16
stinebdplease18:16
arrrghhhi was going to post... ah18:16
Lady_Esmaarrghhhh i have an idea18:16
arrrghhhsure18:16
arrrghhhuh oh18:16
arrrghhhi hear burning Lady_Esma18:16
arrrghhh:P what's up18:16
arrrghhhi smell burning?18:17
arrrghhhfail.18:17
Lady_EsmaIf I add my configuration directly on the .xml file18:17
Lady_Esmawhy ]_]?18:17
arrrghhhyou can try18:17
arrrghhhi suggested that as well18:17
arrrghhhlol18:17
hycstinebd: where does rootfs /bin/pppd come from? what patches make it different from /system/bin/pppd?18:17
hycI can't find a repo with its source18:18
stinebdhyc: it came from phh i assume18:18
NeoMatrixJRok, well, I go home now. time to go fix a computer.  laters!18:18
stinebdhe probably cross compiled it18:18
hychmm18:18
hycwould be nice to eliminate that and just use /system/bin18:19
arrrghhhlol where do i even file this.  system/core?18:19
hycbut I have no idea what changed or why18:19
stinebdarrrghhh: for that bug, it's rootfs18:19
xdandroidNew XDAndroid Releases bug 121 filed...18:21
xdandroidBug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=121 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Updater broken for froyo in current rootfs18:21
hycphh: you awake?18:21
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stinebdarrrghhh: xdandroid releases, rootfs component18:21
arrrghhhgot it18:21
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hycphh: where's the history of rootfs /bin/pppd, why is it different from /system/bin/pppd?18:22
xdandroidNew XDAndroid Releases bug 122 filed...18:22
xdandroidBug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=122 minor, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Sync with CM apns-conf.xml18:22
arrrghhhassigned to you sir18:22
stinebdthanks18:22
arrrghhhthank you18:23
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arrrghhhy'know, there was one good thing about tiad18:40
arrrghhhhe took basically every single noob.  i have a lot more noob chatter in my threads than i used to.18:40
hycah hah18:43
hycso he wasn't *all* bad :P18:43
hycok, booting wistilt2's latest kernel18:43
arrrghhhin his idiocy, he amassed idiots.18:43
arrrghhhit was pretty impressive.  i could just avoid his threads, and didn't really have to read about much noob drivel.18:43
arrrghhhnow... it's back in my threads.18:44
arrrghhhc'est la vie i guess.  xda-devs doesn't really seem to be for devs anymore.18:44
hycyeah, victim of its own success18:44
arrrghhhohgod18:47
arrrghhhhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12531934&postcount=37218:47
hycgawd...18:48
hycbtw, in that thread title, what new RIL are they testing?18:49
hycis it public?18:49
hyc(git repo)18:49
arrrghhhi think acl's stuff is floating around18:49
arrrghhhbasically acl has had to butcher shit to work on NAND18:49
arrrghhhcollapse rootfs18:49
arrrghhhmove pppd18:49
arrrghhhetc18:49
hycyeah, understandable18:50
hycthe whole rootfs thing always puzzled me18:50
arrrghhhbrb18:50
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arrrghhhhyc, lol i had pretty much forgotten they exist as well.19:19
arrrghhhit's like oh!  right... those normally light up.19:20
hyc;)19:20
arrrghhhdamn these slow wakes tho19:20
arrrghhhthere's gotta be something else there...19:20
arrrghhhmoreso than just proc19:20
arrrghhhbackground processes etc19:20
hycbut I was surprised the other day. I had the lights on 'cause I hit the keypad while haret was running19:21
hycand eventually they turned off. I thought with the old kernels they just stayed untouched19:21
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hycyeah dunno but it definitely feels sluggish19:21
hycquite noticeable compared to how fast it sleeps19:21
arrrghhhwhat kernel were you on 'the other day'?19:22
arrrghhhthere was some patches with the newest stuff from git to disable it if they're on in winmo19:22
arrrghhhand i got them to turn on, everytime i adjusted the brightness lol19:23
stinebdhahaha xkcd19:24
hycit was an older wistilt kernel19:25
arrrghhhhrm19:26
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ryannathansarrrghhh i am trying your apn list now19:54
arrrghhhorly19:54
arrrghhhdid you have freezing issues?19:55
arrrghhhat first?19:55
phhhyc: no f*cking clue (for pppd)19:55
hycbummer19:55
ryannathansbefore your apn list?19:55
hycI suppose I could screw with it and see what it takes to make /system/bin/pppd run19:56
ryannathansI had freezing issues before your apn list, WITH your apn list i am still on boot animation.19:56
ryannathanssuspense...19:56
arrrghhhryannathans, when  you first ran android, did it freeze on you?  did you resolve it by manually entering the apn?19:56
ryannathansyes19:56
ryannathansi found the issue pretty much xD19:56
ryannathanswant logs?19:56
hycah right, that's your thread19:56
hycyes, get logs from the freeze19:57
hyc(please ;)19:57
arrrghhhit's still freezing?19:57
ryannathansstill boooting19:57
arrrghhho ok19:57
ryannathansfresh data.img19:57
arrrghhhk19:57
hyceven if it works now, I'm curious where it failed before19:57
arrrghhhon a missing apn :P19:58
arrrghhhbad apn19:58
arrrghhhwhatever19:58
ryannathansboot anim finished19:58
hycalso the apn is only used for mobile data so if you turned data off it should bypass whatever problem19:58
hychmmm. both pppds claim to be version 2.4.3 but /bin is 5K larger than /system/bin19:59
hychow disturbing :P19:59
ryannathansno freezes yet, however there have been no attempts to use data20:00
ryannathanstoo late20:00
ryannathansFROZE D:20:00
ryannathansi will get you logs later  ;) promise20:01
ryannathansif what you have isnt sufficient20:01
arrrghhhaw20:01
arrrghhhwell so much for that theory.20:01
arrrghhhwith the correct APN settings, you're fine right?20:01
ryannathansyes20:07
ryannathansairplane mode, change apn settings, turn off airplane mode, good.20:07
arrrghhhbummer20:07
arrrghhhif you add your apn to the xml file manually are you good?20:07
arrrghhhperhaps you should just try that and tell cyanogenmod20:08
arrrghhh:P20:08
arrrghhhevidently we sync from it20:08
ryannathanswhos cyanogenmod?20:08
arrrghhhnever heard?20:08
arrrghhhhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyanogenMod20:09
arrrghhhbrilliant guy who has been customizing android for... a while.20:09
ryannathanslooks good20:10
arrrghhhneopeek ported cm620:10
arrrghhhand cm720:10
arrrghhhi posted a thread on cm720:11
ryannathanshasnt been released to gingerbread tho =/20:11
arrrghhh'dev preview' :P20:11
ryannathansaccording to wiki20:11
arrrghhhthat's outdated20:11
arrrghhhcm720:11
arrrghhh=gb20:11
ryannathansargh, that needs love too -.-20:11
arrrghhhwhat20:15
arrrghhhthe cm7 build?20:15
ryannathansthe wiki20:19
arrrghhhoh20:19
arrrghhheh20:19
ryannathansonce i learn a bit more i will go about updating all the wikis i can find20:19
arrrghhhgive it some lovin then20:19
arrrghhhi try to keep the FAQ20:19
arrrghhhbut that think is pretty scant20:20
arrrghhhi want to add a lot more20:20
ryannathansi must go out now20:20
ryannathansi will try to irc from my phone20:20
hycwhere did he post his original logs?20:33
hycI didn't see them20:33
arrrghhhif he didn't post them in the thread20:33
arrrghhhi don't know...20:33
arrrghhhhyc, re: the H icon20:35
arrrghhhdoes it work on frx06+your RIL?20:35
hycI haven't seen an H icon yet20:35
hycI think rpierce99 has20:35
arrrghhhweird20:36
arrrghhhlol, for what instance20:36
hycyeah, very weird20:36
rpierce99yeah, not with FRX06 though20:36
arrrghhhrev.A20:36
rpierce99nah it was Rev. 0 on WisTilt2s modded system image20:36
hycespecially since he is seeing it for the wrong network types :P20:36
arrrghhhlol20:36
rpierce99with hycs ril, it was a bastard child on many levels20:37
hyclol20:37
Entropy512I've seen the H icon on AT&T20:44
ryannathanscool, tot irc half working on my phone20:44
hycwhat image are you running?20:44
Entropy512it's effectively FRX06 but built from source20:45
hycmy frx06 doesn't show20:45
hycI wonder if I needed to reinit /data for the options to take effect20:45
Entropy512Hmm.  I didn't change /data20:45
Entropy512although20:45
ryannathansi think my logs are in another thread20:45
hycas far as I knew it was just a value in framework-res.apk20:46
rpierce99i believe some patches were committed after FRX06 was built, like GPS, maybe the change to H was in that category20:46
hycmmm, ok20:46
ryannathansi shall go investigate20:46
Entropy512I think in real FRX06, the change was made in a different file than the one I changed20:46
Entropy512stinebd added a new file with just that option, instead of adding it to an existing file consistent with the post he linked me to20:46
hycthere's the framework config.xml, and you cancreate an overlay for device-specific tweaks20:46
Entropy512he tweaked it in device/xdandroid/msm/overlay/frameworks/base/packages/SystemUI/res/values/config.xml by adding a new file20:47
hycI wonder if it took effect20:48
hycanyone getting H in FRX06?20:48
hycI'm not...20:48
Entropy512while in my case it was device/xdandroid/msm/overlay/frameworks/base/core/res/res/values20:48
Entropy512ok, so I'm going to try a rebuild and then throw that on20:48
Entropy512by the way - hyc, how did you set things up to build your own tree for the RIL?20:49
hyceh? I just created a new directory in my xdandroid tree20:49
Entropy512I haven't figured out how to get subtrees to build outside of the big xdandroid repo tree20:49
hycand use mm to build it20:49
Entropy512mm?20:49
hycit's a shell function that gets defined when you source build/envsetup.sh20:50
Entropy512ah20:50
hycthere are a few handy shortcuts in there, you should read it :P20:50
hycI never built it top down until yesterday when emwe bugged me about it20:50
ryannathanslogs: g20:55
hycOK, I'm going to start patching ril to work with /system/bin/pppd20:56
hycthere are a lot of android-specific patches in /system/bin/pppd tho20:56
Entropy512trying the main git tree, not the one where I manually applied the HSPA patch now20:57
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Entropy512probably a bad idea but I'm doing it anyway - changing RIL, kernel, and system image simultaneously.  :)20:58
hycpoof20:59
Entropy512heeeeeeere we go!  let's see if it goes splodey splodey21:01
Entropy512I need to figure out a way to automatically include my bash hack in source builds21:01
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Entropy512hmm this build is doing something to every single one of my APKs21:04
Entropy512interesting21:04
Entropy512wonder what all this DexOpt and DexInv stuff is and why I've never seen this happen before with a new system build21:05
Entropy512OK confirmed - HSPA icon fix is broken in FRX06 because it was put into the wrong config file21:07
Entropy512it isn't working for me now21:07
Entropy512time to unbork my phone.  :P21:08
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Entropy512option has to be added to device/xdandroid/msm/overlay/frameworks/base/core/res/res/values/config.xml, not put in a new file at device/xdandroid/msm/overlay/frameworks/base/packages/SystemUI/res/values/config.xml21:10
stinebdbuild fails when you put it in core res on gingerbread21:10
stinebdso my guess is they moved it some time between branches21:11
hycwell, nice to know why it wasn't there ;)21:16
Entropy512ah21:20
Entropy512so it might work as is on GB21:20
Entropy512damn, touching that file forces waaaaay too much to rebuild.  :P21:22
rpierce99arrrghhh: did you see the free app today21:22
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* Bladdysbryd resists all temptations to not throw his phone out the window21:30
rpierce99do it21:31
rpierce99but first tell me where you live so i can catch it21:31
BladdysbrydI couldnt possible have a worse phone to put droid on21:31
stinebdiphone?21:31
BladdysbrydLOL21:31
Bladdysbrydno21:31
BladdysbrydHTC Blackstone21:31
Bladdysbrydgot it running FRX06... sort of...21:33
Bladdysbrydwith the custome Blackstone kernal21:33
Bladdysbrydwith the added line in the startup21:33
Bladdysbrydand with some APN trickery by arrrghhh21:33
Bladdysbrydbut now it comes with additional random lockups21:33
Entropy512hmm.  APN stuff might either be SIM stuff or some issues with PPP that are being worked actively right now21:34
Bladdysbrydand there we go21:34
Bladdysbrydanother freeze accessing the gmail app21:34
Bladdysbrydhm21:35
Bladdysbrydwhats it mean if the green LED randomly flashes at me?21:35
Bladdysbrydon the power button I mean21:35
Entropy512dunno on blackstone, means phone is trying to enter sleep on wistilt2's latest RHOD kernels21:38
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ryannathanshttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=950383 logs21:45
ryannathansfor freeze, apn related21:46
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Entropy512ryannathans: Odd, I don't see a new post there, or an edit to your log post?21:53
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