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| arrrghhh | rpierce99, so how are you testing NITZ? | 00:33 |
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| arrrghhh | are you just skewing the time manually | 00:33 |
| arrrghhh | and setting it back to auto? | 00:33 |
| odz | it'l show up in logs too | 00:36 |
| odz | like this | 00:36 |
| odz | D/RILJ ( 1382): [UNSL]< UNSOL_NITZ_TIME_RECEIVED 11/03/25,21:59:28-16,1 | 00:36 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 00:37 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i'll have to check logs | 00:37 |
| odz | yep its there | 00:37 |
| arrrghhh | cuz the above method did the same thing on stock ril | 00:37 |
| arrrghhh | snapped right back ;P | 00:37 |
| arrrghhh | er | 00:37 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 00:37 |
| odz | so it always worked :P | 00:38 |
| arrrghhh | eh i don't know if that is a good test or not | 00:38 |
| arrrghhh | what i did | 00:38 |
| arrrghhh | uncheck auto -> skew time by a few hours -> recheck auto | 00:38 |
| arrrghhh | in my head it is, but perhaps it has somethings cached. | 00:39 |
| arrrghhh | i think the best test will be running for extended periods | 00:39 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 00:39 |
| odz | yep | 00:39 |
| arrrghhh | disable clocksync | 00:39 |
| arrrghhh | at least from auto sync | 00:39 |
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| rpierce99 | arrrghhh: sorry yeah it was just that, skew it manually and then set it back to auto, never tested it on auto but but if auto works why would it drift at all? | 01:04 |
| arrrghhh | i dunno | 01:05 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps something is cached? | 01:05 |
| rpierce99 | i dunno, i guess watch a radio log when you're setting it back to auto and make sure it queries nitz? | 01:05 |
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| arrrghhh | well | 01:07 |
| arrrghhh | just run his RIL for a while with clocksync disabled | 01:07 |
| arrrghhh | see how it goes | 01:08 |
| arrrghhh | i'd say that's the best test. | 01:08 |
| rpierce99 | well i've been in the riltest kernel since we talked earlier and it says 12:12, same as my laptop says | 01:12 |
| rpierce99 | that was at 9:40 | 01:13 |
| rpierce99 | probably not long enough | 01:13 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 01:14 |
| arrrghhh | i heard UI usage makes it work | 01:14 |
| arrrghhh | so i guess swipe around menus etc | 01:14 |
| arrrghhh | you can also open clocksync, assuming everything is set to manual you can use it to verify how much drift there is. | 01:14 |
| rpierce99 | it's still going to drift, NITZ would only fix it occasionally | 01:17 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 01:18 |
| arrrghhh | but big drift | 01:18 |
| arrrghhh | without correction | 01:18 |
| arrrghhh | that's the question | 01:18 |
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| hyc | hey, so can I flash an updated radio on my TP2 using SD card only? | 06:20 |
| hyc | I just downloaded 4.48.25.95.nbh | 06:20 |
| hyc | does it need to be renamed to something specific on the SD card? | 06:20 |
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| xtremist_ | hi | 09:27 |
| xtremist_ | friends i installed ur frx06 | 09:28 |
| xtremist_ | but it getting restrt while installing game | 09:28 |
| xtremist_ | its act 41mmb of size | 09:28 |
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| mario_ | how is gingerbread going along, release aanytime soon? | 11:28 |
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| mario_ | gingerbread? | 12:00 |
| arrrghhh | what | 12:02 |
| arrrghhh | it's delicious | 12:02 |
| mario_ | haha, but is it almost released like froyo, almost stable like the froyo one? | 12:02 |
| arrrghhh | what? | 12:03 |
| arrrghhh | it's been released | 12:03 |
| arrrghhh | for... a while now | 12:03 |
| arrrghhh | GBX0A | 12:03 |
| arrrghhh | much to stinebd's demise | 12:03 |
| mario_ | I know, good for everyday use? | 12:04 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 12:05 |
| arrrghhh | i would say no | 12:05 |
| arrrghhh | fun to play with | 12:05 |
| mario_ | oh, so i'll stay with frx06 lol | 12:06 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 12:07 |
| mario_ | how do you turb auto backlinght on, to save battery or what can I do? | 12:09 |
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| mario_ | 8=D | 12:11 |
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| NeoMatrixJR | stinebd, u on? | 12:26 |
| hyc | So I found some other stuff from the HTC ril that I've now added to ours | 12:28 |
| emwe | hyc: ah gsm netloc again. coolio ;) | 12:30 |
| hyc | *again*? It never worked before | 12:30 |
| emwe | huh? of course it did | 12:30 |
| hyc | impossible | 12:30 |
| hyc | the code for get neighboring cells was completely wrong | 12:30 |
| emwe | on the generic ril it worked definitively. | 12:30 |
| hyc | hmmmm | 12:30 |
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| emwe | not reliably as i said yesterday, but it worked. | 12:31 |
| hyc | mebbe if it was only using the current lac/cid. but I never got any result with it on my phone. | 12:31 |
| emwe | i always got a 4000m range location | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | isn't that typical? | 12:31 |
| emwe | as i said yesterday, sometimes it just didn't work at my workplace here at home. | 12:31 |
| hyc | no, now I have 800m | 12:31 |
| emwe | sometimes it did | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | i think in winmo mine is usually 3000m | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | and in android it doesn't say | 12:32 |
| emwe | hyc: let me test it out. | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | at least it didn't when i was testing yesterday... | 12:32 |
| hyc | sure it does, tap on the blue dot | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | wtf i did that. | 12:32 |
| emwe | hyc: btw, i tried for the last hour to call a custom target. failure on my side. can't figure it. | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | like 15x | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 12:32 |
| hyc | weird. it works for me, tells me 800m right now | 12:32 |
| emwe | hyc: (regarding gitverh.h) | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | i'll try it again today | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not on your RIL now | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | tethering to be on here too :P | 12:32 |
| hyc | well, cdma netloc doesn't work the same as gsm | 12:33 |
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| hyc | cdma netloc reports an actual lat/long of the base station to the phone | 12:33 |
| arrrghhh | why does it work in winmo tho | 12:33 |
| hyc | gsm netloc reports only a base station ID, you need a data connection to look up the ID | 12:34 |
| hyc | dunno | 12:34 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 12:34 |
| hyc | just saying, the two use different techniques | 12:34 |
| arrrghhh | i know | 12:34 |
| arrrghhh | i guess it's not a huge deal | 12:34 |
| arrrghhh | crap | 12:34 |
| arrrghhh | i wanted to see if it worked on my way to work. | 12:34 |
| arrrghhh | d'oh | 12:34 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i can test it on the way home :P | 12:35 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: so did i read logs right wis has ceased ril work? | 12:35 |
| emwe | or rather took a break? | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | seems to be | 12:36 |
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| vinvy | when i can get xdandroid 2.3? | 12:41 |
| vinvy | sorry for my english... | 12:41 |
| arrrghhh | it's already out | 12:41 |
| arrrghhh | gingerbread | 12:41 |
| arrrghhh | GBX0A | 12:41 |
| arrrghhh | in a forum near you | 12:41 |
| vinvy | really? but i say for my touch diamond | 12:43 |
| arrrghhh | i don't post in those forums | 12:43 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think there's an android dev section for DIAM folk | 12:43 |
| arrrghhh | so, go to the touchpro section | 12:43 |
| vinvy | oh, tank you :) | 12:45 |
| arrrghhh | np | 12:45 |
| vinvy | thank* | 12:45 |
| * NeoMatrixJR slaps stinebd with a day-old trout. USE AWAY! | 12:45 | |
| NeoMatrixJR | so confusing... | 12:45 |
| arrrghhh | what's confusing | 12:46 |
| vinvy | I can not find the download link for the GBX0A packege, you send it? | 12:48 |
| arrrghhh | lazy | 12:49 |
| NeoMatrixJR | arrrghhh: if stinebd's actually online or not! | 12:49 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951811 | 12:49 |
| arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR, he's always online | 12:49 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:49 |
| vinvy | Thanks :) | 12:49 |
| NeoMatrixJR | ok, if he's AFK or not then... | 12:49 |
| arrrghhh | he is always here | 12:49 |
| arrrghhh | never not | 12:50 |
| * NeoMatrixJR arrghhh makes me want to arrrghhh | 12:50 | |
| arrrghhh | always at his kbd | 12:50 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:50 |
| hyc | emwe: file:///home/software/xdandroid/build/core/build-system.html I guess I'll try to set a custom target | 12:51 |
| NeoMatrixJR | oh, so he's got that nice toilet/computer chair & keyboard/pillow combo? | 12:51 |
| arrrghhh | he sleeps where he poops | 12:52 |
| NeoMatrixJR | sadly enough if he's always at his kbd then he must eat there too..and that's where it REALLY gets bad | 12:56 |
| NeoMatrixJR | also not a good idea to mix microwaves and sensitive PC equipment. Although microwaving a CD can be fun. | 12:56 |
| vinvy | between htc salsa and the wildfire which do you recommend? | 12:57 |
| * NeoMatrixJR gives a "do not try this at home" disclamer | 12:57 | |
| arrrghhh | vinvy, uhm... no. we don't recommend phones here sorry. | 12:58 |
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| NeoMatrixJR | HTC Rhodium FTW | 12:58 |
| arrrghhh | damn ancient hardware. | 12:59 |
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| hyc | emwe: ok, figured it out. Android.mk updated... | 13:40 |
| emwe | hyc: nice. building. | 13:47 |
| hyc | hmm. it just hung on me, when I turned the screen off. sheesh. | 13:48 |
| emwe | hm, doesnt build. wth... | 13:52 |
| emwe | sorry german: make: *** Keine Regel vorhanden, um das Target »out/target/product/msm/system/lib/libril.so«, | 13:53 |
| emwe | benötigt von »out/target/product/msm/system/lib/libhtcgeneric-ril.so«, zu erstellen. Schluss. | 13:53 |
| hyc | ? | 13:55 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:56 |
| arrrghhh | NIN | 13:56 |
| arrrghhh | SCHNEL | 13:56 |
| arrrghhh | i know 0 german. | 13:56 |
| emwe | no target defined to build libril.so required by the build of libhtcgeneric-ril.so | 13:57 |
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| TheDeadCPU | I know Nein | 13:58 |
| hyc | do you have libril.so ? | 13:58 |
| hyc | that's always been in the Android.mk, I didn't change that | 13:59 |
| emwe | isn't "mm" supposed to rebuild? | 14:00 |
| emwe | (if no dep is present?) | 14:00 |
| hyc | it only builds the current working directory | 14:00 |
| emwe | oi | 14:01 |
| emwe | redoing the build. something failed and didn't notice. | 14:01 |
| emwe | sry for the noise. | 14:01 |
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| emwe | hyc: if you don't mind, could you try a toplevel build? | 14:21 |
| emwe | target Generated: libhtcgeneric-ril <= hardware/xdandroid-ril/.git/index | 14:21 |
| emwe | fatal: Not a git repository: 'development/tools/etc1tool/.git' | 14:21 |
| hyc | ugh | 14:22 |
| odzz | =x | 14:24 |
| hyc | what command are you invoking at top level? | 14:25 |
| emwe | make -j2 | 14:27 |
| hyc | ok, trying it now | 14:27 |
| hyc | gah | 14:28 |
| hyc | I have two directories making libhtcgeneric-ril | 14:28 |
| hyc | that's why I haven't been doing top-levels lately :P | 14:28 |
| hyc | seems my main tree is in a shambles | 14:31 |
| * emwe hands the vacuum cleaner | 14:35 | |
| hyc | wtf. gitorious is giving me access denied | 14:37 |
| hyc | can't re-sync... | 14:37 |
| odzz | =x | 14:41 |
| hyc | trying the http url instead of ssh | 14:42 |
| hyc | well, that let me clone anyway | 14:43 |
| hyc | make -j2 is still screwing up, had to fallback to -j1. super slow... | 14:47 |
| emwe | wtf... now i get webcore build issues | 15:13 |
| hyc | heh, I'm building webcore right now | 15:15 |
| hyc | with SVG enabled | 15:15 |
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| emwe | man, now i am busying you with that stuff. sorry. | 15:24 |
| hyc | eh, it's just building in the background now | 15:26 |
| hyc | and I wanted a new browser binary anyway, since the default one doesn't have SVG enabled | 15:26 |
| hyc | http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=1376 | 15:27 |
| hyc | I swear, filing Android bug reports with google is as useless as M$ | 15:27 |
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| emwe | lol, 2008. | 15:29 |
| hyc | uh huh | 15:29 |
| hyc | I got my G1 first day in October 08, been hacking it mercilessly since then :P | 15:31 |
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| hyc | but now my TP2 is getting all the attention | 15:31 |
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| hyc | Can I just put a big "noobs not welcome" on the top of my thread? | 15:33 |
| phh | won't work | 15:33 |
| midnight | lol you should | 15:33 |
| hyc | ;) | 15:33 |
| midnight | you are highlandsun on xda? | 15:34 |
| hyc | yeah | 15:35 |
| midnight | me helicopter88 | 15:35 |
| hyc | Oh, hi | 15:35 |
| midnight | hi | 15:36 |
| hyc | you're working on gingerbread? | 15:36 |
| midnight | yes,i have a stable build in my signature | 15:36 |
| midnight | but i'm updating it and i'll put it in rhod section and make looped ext2 | 15:36 |
| hyc | ah | 15:36 |
| hyc | ironically, I run frx06 with data and system in their own partitions | 15:37 |
| midnight | i hate looped filesystem,but them are noob-friendly | 15:37 |
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| hyc | yeah | 15:37 |
| AinSon | hi | 15:37 |
| midnight | hi | 15:37 |
| hyc | but .... they get corrupted more easily | 15:37 |
| hyc | I haven't needed to reinit my data in ... weeks... | 15:38 |
| midnight | and them are harder to update.. | 15:38 |
| AinSon | i think i might need some help | 15:38 |
| midnight | tell us where you need help | 15:38 |
| AinSon | i am booting FRX06 bundle on my DIAM100 | 15:39 |
| AinSon | and the touch-screen is quite out of calibration | 15:39 |
| AinSon | i cannot enter PIN :-( | 15:39 |
| midnight | pin for me isn't working | 15:39 |
| AinSon | can i force recalibration? | 15:39 |
| midnight | and about calibration,you should delete ts-calibration | 15:39 |
| midnight | and you should be done | 15:39 |
| AinSon | does it auto-calibrate? | 15:40 |
| midnight | no | 15:40 |
| midnight | you have to calibrate after launching haret | 15:40 |
| AinSon | or did i miss the calibration the first time... | 15:40 |
| midnight | maybe it was included in your bundle | 15:40 |
| AinSon | okay i will try...sounds good...will disable pin too | 15:41 |
| AinSon | last time i tried XDandroid it was almost a year ago | 15:41 |
| midnight | last time i tried xdandroid was about october | 15:41 |
| AinSon | so i assumed pin is working now ^^ | 15:41 |
| AinSon | :-D | 15:42 |
| emwe | ping should work. but there might be issues on re-calib. | 15:42 |
| AinSon | these guys keeping up good work | 15:42 |
| emwe | it's said to be undoable in recent releases. | 15:42 |
| emwe | dunno what causes that. | 15:42 |
| midnight | maybe you could try with an old kernel | 15:43 |
| AinSon | now recalibration appears :-D | 15:46 |
| AinSon | i am so excited | 15:47 |
| midnight | what phone do you have? | 15:47 |
| AinSon | maybe i can put the diam100 to good use after all | 15:47 |
| AinSon | i have an XDA Diamond ^^ from o2 | 15:48 |
| midnight | me too | 15:48 |
| AinSon | do you use android on a daily basis? | 15:49 |
| midnight | i use my builds, | 15:49 |
| midnight | for daily use,but when i need to be reliable,i use energy rom | 15:49 |
| AinSon | android.process.acore is now always crashing :-( | 15:50 |
| AinSon | do you share your builds? | 15:50 |
| midnight | you should try to delete data.img,but you'll losee all of your settings | 15:50 |
| midnight | my builds are on xda and on neopeek.com | 15:51 |
| AinSon | maybe i try your build | 15:51 |
| midnight | i'm helicopter88 on xda | 15:51 |
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| midnight | and you can find my builds in diamond section and rhodium section | 15:52 |
| AinSon | i you are that gingercherry guy ^^ | 15:52 |
| midnight | yes | 15:52 |
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| midnight | and i'm the cherrypie guy too | 15:52 |
| midnight | hi t3g | 15:52 |
| AinSon | awesome...i have so much respect for guys like you... | 15:53 |
| midnight | i'm not a dev.. | 15:53 |
| midnight | i'm just a tiny guy who has a bit of free time lol | 15:54 |
| t3g | midnight: hi:) | 15:54 |
| t3g | cherrypie? | 15:54 |
| t3g | do I know u? | 15:54 |
| midnight | hi | 15:54 |
| midnight | i don't think you know me | 15:54 |
| t3g | sorry, can't remember... | 15:54 |
| t3g | I think so too yeah:) | 15:54 |
| t3g | but : hi midnight ;) | 15:55 |
| midnight | hi t3g | 15:55 |
| AinSon | but you put together your own releases | 15:55 |
| AinSon | hi t3g too :-D | 15:55 |
| t3g | *g* I am mostly only reading;) | 15:56 |
| t3g | I'm not so into th things... | 15:56 |
| t3g | but id does intrest me:) | 15:56 |
| AinSon | midnight: do i really need 2 partitions...i have a navigation map on my sd and cant gpart it right now | 15:57 |
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| emwe | hyc: allowed myself to send you a radio log. unfortunately no cell-loc | 15:59 |
| emwe | oh wait.... | 15:59 |
| midnight | ainson,you could check rhodium | 15:59 |
| emwe | hyc: ok, now i got after 10 mins uptime and retrials | 15:59 |
| midnight | section there's cherry pie that doesn't need partitions | 15:59 |
| hyc | got what? | 15:59 |
| emwe | hyc: got netloc | 15:59 |
| hyc | emwe: netloc is really slow for me on 3G, there are only 2 towers here | 16:00 |
| emwe | hyc: the "location" it always used to be on the "stock" ril | 16:00 |
| hyc | but if I switch back to 2G, it works right away | 16:00 |
| emwe | hyc: ah i see. never tried 2g actually. and yes, towers might be sparse here from my provider as well | 16:00 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, why would that be? | 16:01 |
| hyc | there are 5-6 2G signals here | 16:02 |
| hyc | it needs 3 | 16:02 |
| arrrghhh | weird | 16:02 |
| hyc | emwe: so what is this log you sent me? | 16:04 |
| emwe | hyc: i thought to spam you with that log in order to help you see what's going one here. but that was when i thought netloc didn't work. so ignore it if it provides no useful for anything else. | 16:05 |
| hyc | ok | 16:05 |
| hyc | by the way, do a speedtest with this new ril | 16:06 |
| hyc | I changed the hsupa/hsdpa parameters to 7mbps down, 2mbps up | 16:06 |
| AinSon | midnight: i am downloading cherry_pie_v3_loop.7z right now, i found it on neopeek.com in the HUAWEI 8150 threa | 16:06 |
| hyc | see if it makes any difference compared to the old ril | 16:06 |
| midnight | ainson,you could have found it in rhod and diam section | 16:07 |
| hyc | does the Huawei 8150 use HTC modem commands? what ril library do you use? | 16:07 |
| midnight | i used ril from chann's frg83 | 16:07 |
| emwe | hyc: then i need to find sth else then speedtest.net ... i tries gps loc and that is yet broken on gingerbread and the app crashes... | 16:08 |
| midnight | with huawei standard i had some booting problems.. | 16:08 |
| arrrghhh | midnight, what RIL is that!?! | 16:08 |
| midnight | arrrghhh,idk,i just used it | 16:08 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, bummer. you can't disable the gps attempt? | 16:08 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: seems not. | 16:09 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. that's unfortunate. | 16:10 |
| arrrghhh | it always pissed me off that it flipped on gps | 16:10 |
| arrrghhh | because it would still put me far away | 16:10 |
| arrrghhh | probably from those false fixes lol | 16:10 |
| hyc | yeah, I just installed entropy512's lib to get rid of those | 16:11 |
| emwe | wasnt his fix in frx06? | 16:11 |
| hyc | nope, apparently it didn';t make it in | 16:11 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: btw, does rootfs still mount lib/froyo to /system/lib/hw from rootfs? | 16:11 |
| hyc | wow emwe, you have a pretty weak signal here | 16:12 |
| arrrghhh | it didn't make it in emwe | 16:12 |
| arrrghhh | and i believe it does... | 16:12 |
| arrrghhh | but i'm not the right person to ask those types of questions to emwe :P | 16:12 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: ;) | 16:13 |
| emwe | ok, what do i have to delete in order to fix gapps acore crashes? | 16:13 |
| hyc | don't delete | 16:13 |
| hyc | do a logcat and find what database it wasn't able to open | 16:13 |
| hyc | that's almost always the problem | 16:13 |
| hyc | usually the db.journal is owned by the wrong uid | 16:14 |
| hyc | chown it and everything will work again | 16:14 |
| emwe | hyc: where's that db.journal? db-data? | 16:14 |
| hyc | it will be in the same directory as the db itself | 16:14 |
| hyc | so look for error messages in the logcat | 16:15 |
| hyc | they will talk about some db file or another failing to open | 16:15 |
| emwe | hyc: down: 1158Kbit (144KB) up: 1946Kbit (243KB) | 16:15 |
| emwe | i think i had better measures in the sleeping room. but as you say i have bad conn anyway - and the signal bars indicate that ever since - it's ok i think. | 16:16 |
| AinSon | hmm...looks like the battery drain is still a huge downer | 16:16 |
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| emwe | hyc: talk.db owned by 1000/1000 the db itself 10000/10000. chwon that to 10000/10000? | 16:18 |
| emwe | ehm sorry talk.db-journal is 1000 | 16:19 |
| hyc | what is the uid of the app? | 16:19 |
| hyc | probably both should be 1000, is my guess. that sounds more like a valid uid anyway | 16:20 |
| emwe | hm, all other files have 10000 | 16:20 |
| hyc | ok. make it match | 16:20 |
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| hyc | at the end of the log you sent, you finally get 2 other signals in the NeighboringCellIds | 16:21 |
| emwe | ok, gtalk works again. | 16:21 |
| hyc | so I guess you got netlok shortly after that... | 16:21 |
| arrrghhh | why would permissions get hosed like that? | 16:21 |
| emwe | hyc: exactly that happened ;) | 16:21 |
| hyc | arrrghhh: I dunno yet | 16:22 |
| hyc | but it happens | 16:22 |
| hyc | that's why there's a fix_permissions script in the devel tools | 16:22 |
| hyc | pretty much all the android rom developers bundle it | 16:23 |
| hyc | cyanogen, etc... | 16:23 |
| hyc | I was rather distressed that it was missing from xdandroid. | 16:23 |
| hyc | copied it over from my G1, needed it a few times... | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:24 |
| hyc | emwe: since you've been committing to the xdandroid ril - you plan to pull any of may patches any time soon? | 16:26 |
| hyc | or let it bake a bit more | 16:26 |
| emwe | hyc: i'd like to have stinebds opinion on that. i can only take over your stuff. i virtually know nothing about it. | 16:27 |
| hyc | ok | 16:27 |
| hyc | just curious | 16:28 |
| emwe | hyc: you got a testing thread pending right? and all is fine, yet? | 16:28 |
| hyc | everything is fine so far, just some missing features | 16:28 |
| emwe | is it missing something over "stock"? | 16:28 |
| hyc | no, I don't think so | 16:28 |
| emwe | btw, thanks for that useful tip with the db-rights. | 16:29 |
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| hyc | sure. it's an old problem on android... | 16:30 |
| emwe | that will save me a lot of nerves as the quick "reboot -fd3" are not always nice to data it seems | 16:30 |
| hyc | yeah, I'm still annoyed by that, /data is always unclean on reboot | 16:30 |
| hyc | I haven't had time yet to go looking for why | 16:30 |
| hyc | pretty sure that getting clean unmounts will make this type of problem go away | 16:31 |
| emwe | because we can't unmount sd and it tries for some time and then it calls hw reset hook, no? | 16:31 |
| hyc | then it's unmounting in wrong order | 16:32 |
| hyc | it should unmount /data before trying to unmount sd | 16:32 |
| emwe | is userland doing that or any shutdown script in rootfs? | 16:32 |
| hyc | dunno yet | 16:32 |
| hyc | mebbe it's a function of order in fstab. no clue at the moment. | 16:32 |
| hyc | hmm, re: GPS and faster locking, the modem can be configured with the address of an agps server | 16:34 |
| hyc | in stock ril there is a hardcoded address that points to somebody on wanadoo.fr | 16:34 |
| hyc | that cannot possibly be a good solution for everyone :P | 16:34 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:34 |
| arrrghhh | might be a good one for someone tho | 16:35 |
| arrrghhh | phh, i'm lookin at you :P | 16:35 |
| phh | that's not me -_-' | 16:35 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:35 |
| arrrghhh | i was jk | 16:35 |
| arrrghhh | but it did seem suspect considering the address :P | 16:35 |
| hyc | anyway, I've commented it out of my recent builds | 16:35 |
| phh | arrrghhh: i'm not at wanadoo :p | 16:35 |
| phh | i haven't been for something like 10 years | 16:35 |
| arrrghhh | hehe | 16:35 |
| hyc | also the address was set during init, which is a bit too early | 16:36 |
| hyc | ideally we could grab the server from /etc/gps.conf | 16:36 |
| hyc | but obviously we need a radio or wifi to be working first so we can do a dns lookup | 16:36 |
| hyc | so it's pretty inconvenient right now to try to fix this properly | 16:37 |
| emwe | the address is set on the modem? did i get that right? | 16:37 |
| hyc | yes it is | 16:37 |
| hyc | IP address and port # | 16:37 |
| hyc | but if you watch the logs, nothing in android ever invokes any command to set the address | 16:38 |
| hyc | I don't think ril.h has any command for this purpose | 16:38 |
| hyc | which kinda makes sense, since ril.h is for telephony, not gps | 16:38 |
| emwe | so it's set with an AT command and that's it? | 16:38 |
| hyc | yes | 16:38 |
| hyc | then the modem takes care of it all | 16:38 |
| emwe | in winmo it looks like it DLs a file and "pushes" it to the agps chip. | 16:39 |
| emwe | at leat that's what implied. | 16:39 |
| hyc | I guess that's a possibility | 16:39 |
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| emwe | or the progress meter is just filled by the modem download status indicator being read out | 16:39 |
| hyc | there are probably multiple interfaces to the radio chip | 16:40 |
| emwe | bzo: ! | 16:40 |
| bzo | hi emwe | 16:40 |
| hyc | and obviously the rild is monopolizing the /dev/smd0 channel | 16:40 |
| hyc | I think, mebbe I can put a callback into ril to do a dns lookup and set the address after data connection is established | 16:41 |
| hyc | but that won't help if you have data turned off and wifi on | 16:42 |
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| hyc | re: tv out support - I see code for it when I hexedit a radio image | 16:45 |
| hyc | makes you wonder... | 16:46 |
| hyc | also I see many device names in the image - diamond, blackstone, rhodium, etc. so it seems these radios may be compatible across many models. | 16:46 |
| hyc | it surprised me to see Dream in the device list. G1. | 16:47 |
| emwe | perhaps they are just "composed" out of many pieces. | 16:47 |
| hyc | yeah, could be | 16:47 |
| hyc | but I'm thinking some time down the road I will try flashing my G1 with a rhodium radio, and vice versa | 16:47 |
| arrrghhh | sounds dangerous | 16:48 |
| hyc | heh | 16:48 |
| hyc | well, if the device accepts it, I don't think it will die. can flash a new radio. | 16:49 |
| hyc | not like getting the bootloader wrong. | 16:49 |
| hyc | the rhodium radio doesn't support "real" signal strength alerts. it sends what looks like a value from 0-5. | 16:50 |
| hyc | the G1 radio sends the GSM-standard 0-31 | 16:50 |
| hyc | and these are the values that are used for computing netloc | 16:51 |
| hyc | so on rhodium the alerts are useless, and I wind up having to manually issue signal strength queries instead | 16:51 |
| hyc | also, that conversation about NITZ and timekeeping - I don't believe that has really changed much from the stock ril | 16:53 |
| hyc | as near as I can tell, you generally get one NITZ from the network at startup | 16:54 |
| hyc | if you go into airplane mode you can get another one when you come back | 16:54 |
| hyc | but otherwise, I don't know if there's a regular update interval from the network or the modem | 16:54 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 16:54 |
| hyc | so you still can't rely on this to keep the clock perfect | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | yea rpierce99's method for testing was flawed | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | i went over him with that last night :P | 16:55 |
| hyc | yeah, I saw your conversation in my log | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 16:55 |
| hyc | but on CDMA you're lucky, because I found out how to trigger a NITZ on demand | 16:55 |
| hyc | haven't tried it on GSM | 16:55 |
| hyc | but this means, once we decide how/when we want an update, we can force one | 16:56 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 16:59 |
| arrrghhh | how is it "supposed" to work? | 16:59 |
| hyc | dunno :P | 16:59 |
| hyc | I just booted up my old motorola K1 and even though it's configured to get time from the network, it said May 2010 | 17:00 |
| hyc | so it's clearly not a reliable feature :P | 17:00 |
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| hyc | on GSM NITZ is actually rare | 17:02 |
| hyc | on CDMA it has been there since the beginning | 17:02 |
| hyc | I guess it's supported on all US networks, not much in other parts of the world | 17:03 |
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| emwe | gtg. gnight peeps. | 17:16 |
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| hyc | 'night | 17:20 |
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| odz | yawn | 17:22 |
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| Entropy512 | time to try ril 6b7afad. :P | 18:51 |
| odz | heh | 18:51 |
| arrrghhh | so many rilz! | 18:51 |
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| hyc | lol | 18:52 |
| hyc | but at least now we can tell them apart from each other :P | 18:52 |
| arrrghhh | w00t | 18:52 |
| arrrghhh | that is kinda important :P | 18:52 |
| Entropy512 | yeah, prompting wistilt2 to pop out a "dev coordination" email to the xdandroid-dev list | 18:53 |
| hyc | yeah, I guess so :P | 18:53 |
| Entropy512 | although hyc isn't on that list so it's not exactly going to help. :P | 18:53 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 18:53 |
| hyc | hm, an email list? | 18:53 |
| Entropy512 | or have you subscribed? | 18:53 |
| arrrghhh | all devs should be on the list | 18:53 |
| arrrghhh | ALL DEVS | 18:53 |
| hyc | nope, didn't know | 18:53 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 18:53 |
| Entropy512 | http://lists.xdandroid.com/listinfo/xdandroid-dev | 18:53 |
| Entropy512 | there's a low-profile link (easy to miss) on xdandroid.com | 18:54 |
| stinebd | low-profile? | 18:54 |
| stinebd | it's right at the top in the discussion list and says mailing list in bold letters | 18:54 |
| TheDeadCPU | profile-low? | 18:55 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:55 |
| hyc | ok, sent subscribe rq | 18:56 |
| stinebd | it's automated | 18:57 |
| hyc | yeah I just confirmed it | 18:58 |
| stinebd | don't spam us or phh will ban you | 19:01 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:01 |
| phh | lol? | 19:01 |
| arrrghhh | i haven't gotten dev mail in a little bit | 19:01 |
| stinebd | well the project is dying so it makes sense | 19:02 |
| arrrghhh | begone troll! | 19:02 |
| stinebd | nah, simple facts | 19:02 |
| stinebd | we all know it | 19:02 |
| arrrghhh | lol i think development has picked up lately | 19:03 |
| stinebd | we're down to about 17 users | 19:03 |
| Entropy512 | I think until today, the last mailing to the list was my patch | 19:03 |
| arrrghhh | met | 19:03 |
| arrrghhh | meh | 19:03 |
| Entropy512 | that's really bad. We need Over 9000 users | 19:04 |
| stinebd | we must expand into native android devices | 19:04 |
| stinebd | to gain more users | 19:04 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:04 |
| stinebd | but we'll have to find some way to port haret to android | 19:04 |
| phh | stinebd: s/haret/kexec/ ? | 19:04 |
| arrrghhh | so we can kick... android out of memory? | 19:04 |
| stinebd | nope | 19:04 |
| stinebd | too easy | 19:04 |
| phh | stinebd: ah. | 19:04 |
| stinebd | perhaps we could use vmware embedded to fire up a winmo instance, then use that to run haret to boot into android | 19:05 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 19:05 |
| hyc | oooooo | 19:05 |
| hyc | that'd be kewl... | 19:06 |
| stinebd | not quite how i'd describe it | 19:06 |
| Entropy512 | we need to port haret to an abacus | 19:07 |
| Entropy512 | that way we can view system state easily as we reverse engineer/debug stuff | 19:07 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think abacus' are open source | 19:07 |
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| hyc | er, nobody owns the IP rights to an abacus | 19:08 |
| hyc | long since expired... | 19:08 |
| stinebd | patents can be extended baby | 19:09 |
| MassStash | you guys are crwazy haha | 19:10 |
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| hyc | well, I was gonna reply to that email but I don't think there's anything to add. | 19:13 |
| hyc | Obviously duplication of effort sucks, and better communication and coordination would be nice | 19:13 |
| hyc | mebbe my actions were aggravating, but I've been communicating and working openly every step of the way | 19:14 |
| hyc | from the moment arrrghhh first made fun of me for trying to hang a G1 ril onto rhod. :P | 19:14 |
| hyc | s/hang/kang/ | 19:15 |
| Entropy512 | hahah | 19:15 |
| Entropy512 | tbh the problem is mainly that WisTilt2 was kinda keeping things close to the chest | 19:15 |
| stinebd | that ril works fairly well with the wrapper for gsm | 19:15 |
| Entropy512 | so there was space for another person to step in. I don't think it's a huge deal, it's not the only thing WisTilt2 was working | 19:16 |
| Entropy512 | the RIL issues were a distraction from polishing up power management IMO | 19:16 |
| hyc | stinebd: the G1 ril works OK, yeah, tho the wrapper didn't enable audio | 19:16 |
| hyc | my patched wrapper took care of that | 19:16 |
| arrrghhh | yea i think your work hyc took some load off of him | 19:17 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think he was comfortable in the RIL :P i can't say i blame him. | 19:17 |
| hyc | lol | 19:17 |
| arrrghhh | he has a RIL guy on staff tho | 19:17 |
| Entropy512 | heheh | 19:17 |
| arrrghhh | so i'm sure that helped | 19:17 |
| Entropy512 | rilspy was a great idea | 19:17 |
| hyc | crufty old code that folks who last touched it disavow (phh!) | 19:17 |
| arrrghhh | gotta watch what i say in here tho :P | 19:17 |
| arrrghhh | i made a joke about how you were ahead of him | 19:17 |
| arrrghhh | and someone emailed it to him out of context | 19:17 |
| stinebd | lolwut | 19:18 |
| arrrghhh | yea i don't know. | 19:18 |
| stinebd | who? | 19:18 |
| arrrghhh | don't really care either. | 19:18 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, no clue | 19:18 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't really press the issue with wistilt2 | 19:18 |
| stinebd | i bet it was f22 | 19:18 |
| arrrghhh | suffice to say he wasn't happy with me at first. | 19:18 |
| stinebd | that guy loves to stir the pot | 19:18 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:18 |
| hyc | yeah that's a shame. this isn't a contest. | 19:18 |
| arrrghhh | i haven't seen him in a while | 19:18 |
| MassStash | people are always trying to start drama... | 19:18 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, yea and it was a joke. i think it is someone in here just trying to stir shit. | 19:18 |
| stinebd | tiad in disguise | 19:19 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:19 |
| MassStash | bored ass people stirrin stuff up.... | 19:19 |
| Entropy512 | workin' the RIL wasn't the best use of WisTilt2's skills | 19:19 |
| stinebd | it's the best use of his docs | 19:19 |
| Entropy512 | not many people can hack kernel without making things go splodey splodey | 19:19 |
| MassStash | lol Tiad was kinda "one of a kinda" lmao | 19:20 |
| MassStash | kind* | 19:20 |
| F22 | methinks stinebd likes to stir the pot... :P | 19:21 |
| stinebd | yeah but i do it in public | 19:21 |
| Entropy512 | I think we might have identified at least one of tiad8's performance tweaks, but now instead of "I kanged a RIL and it be fast!" it's "Yeah, other RILs set different HSPA modes than we did, let's try this other mode" | 19:21 |
| stinebd | more fun to watch that way | 19:21 |
| F22 | lol | 19:21 |
| Entropy512 | download at my desk has gone from 1600-1700 kbits to 2100 kbits | 19:22 |
| Entropy512 | upload hasn't changed much | 19:22 |
| Entropy512 | However signal strength is semi-broken in 6b7afad | 19:23 |
| Entropy512 | gonna get a logcat - I think hyc's source treats +CSQ: and @HTCCSQ responses the same, when they are not | 19:24 |
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| hyc | I wouldn't expect upload speed to change much | 19:35 |
| hyc | I should have probably turned off @HTCCSQ completely | 19:36 |
| hyc | but I'm holding off on some other changes until I can compare against a CDMA phone | 19:36 |
| hyc | I want to unify the initialization a bit more | 19:36 |
| hyc | Entropy512 http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/9781-buildprop-roril-meanings/ | 19:38 |
| hyc | I am probably going to add code to getprop some of these | 19:38 |
| hyc | so the same settings as the HTC ril will work with ours | 19:38 |
| hyc | and we don't have hard-coded constants any more | 19:39 |
| odz | sounds nice | 19:51 |
| hyc | the one setting I want to look up isthat silly 2G/3G switch | 19:51 |
| stinebd | ahem | 19:52 |
| hyc | Android is saving it somewhere, and we're not reading it, so it doesn't survive reboot | 19:52 |
| stinebd | let's keep the hard-coded constants please | 19:52 |
| hyc | really? why? | 19:52 |
| stinebd | it's what sets xdandroid apart from the rest | 19:52 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:52 |
| odz | lol | 19:52 |
| hyc | we don't yet know the implications of some of them | 19:52 |
| hyc | the stupid ro.ril.enable.ncell.ind defaults off on all android phones | 19:53 |
| hyc | So gsm netloc is disabled by default | 19:53 |
| hyc | I'd like to know why - whether there's a power consumption cost, e.g. | 19:53 |
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| hyc | we can hardcode the default values still | 19:55 |
| hyc | whatever | 19:55 |
| hyc | it's more work to add the getprop calls | 19:55 |
| hyc | but I suspect being able to toggle these things will be an advantage | 19:55 |
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| odz | yep | 20:02 |
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| hyc | this guy needs the fix_permissions script http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12506674&postcount=462 | 20:46 |
| Entropy512 | dammit, all that logcatting | 20:47 |
| Entropy512 | and my phone goes blinkengreen SoD the moment I stop and pull the USB cable | 20:47 |
| hyc | gahh | 20:47 |
| odz | :/ | 20:47 |
| Entropy512 | so clearly | 20:47 |
| Entropy512 | I need to always run a background logcat | 20:47 |
| Entropy512 | my phone will never hang | 20:47 |
| Entropy512 | :P | 20:47 |
| hyc | :P | 20:47 |
| hyc | good solution! | 20:47 |
| Entropy512 | ok afk for real now | 20:47 |
| Entropy512 | I swear! | 20:48 |
| hyc | lol | 20:48 |
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| odz | gb runs pretty awesome now | 20:56 |
| odz | yay :P | 20:57 |
| hyc | oh? I thought you weren't gonna use it till sms was done :P | 20:59 |
| hyc | or you mean the whole gbx0a release? | 21:00 |
| odz | well im using it in gsm mode | 21:00 |
| hyc | ahhh | 21:00 |
| odz | ya | 21:00 |
| odz | for gb you gotta mount to /system/lib/libhtcgeneric-ril.so so might wanna add that to your thread for gb people that want to try your ril | 21:03 |
| hyc | cool thx | 21:05 |
| hyc | entropy512 already posted it | 21:06 |
| odz | oh | 21:06 |
| odz | aww skype still causes a reboot after ending a call | 21:08 |
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| NeoMatrixJR | anyone know if it's possible to hide the android-generated .thumbnails dir from WinMo? I'm kinda tired of sense/gallery in WinMo having "duplicates" | 21:49 |
| rpierce99 | uh, don't use WinMo? :P | 21:51 |
| NeoMatrixJR | g thanx | 21:55 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I bounce back and forth alot although we're about to the point where I won't use WinMo anymore. | 21:55 |
| NeoMatrixJR | probably after RIL is done and SOD's aren't so bad (if it helps like they say it will) | 21:56 |
| NeoMatrixJR | speaking of which, I was reading some of the logs. looked like someone was stirring the RIL pot. What happened? | 21:56 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I think I missed something | 21:56 |
| rpierce99 | not sure what you're referring to | 21:56 |
| NeoMatrixJR | earlier conversation. Something about using the G1 RIL and such... | 21:59 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I don't know...I'd have to pull the logs back up | 21:59 |
| rpierce99 | hyc, odz, and I were trying some odd rils for a while, nothing fruitful | 21:59 |
| NeoMatrixJR | oh | 21:59 |
| NeoMatrixJR | ok | 21:59 |
| NeoMatrixJR | hey stinebd, r u actually on or are you afk? | 22:00 |
| NeoMatrixJR | damnit. I keep missing him | 22:02 |
| NeoMatrixJR | well, I'm off. | 22:03 |
| NeoMatrixJR | later | 22:03 |
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| stinebd | i wish he would stop highlighting me and just say whatever he has to say | 22:06 |
| rpierce99 | IRC tag is fun! | 22:07 |
| hyc | lol | 22:08 |
| hyc | well, there was an interesting outcome from that, I learned that the ril on my G1 is from a 1.6 OS and the 2.0 fron Nexus1 probably works on it | 22:09 |
| hyc | but I haven't tried it yet | 22:09 |
| rpierce99 | wouldn't you want to upgrade your radio firmware too? | 22:09 |
| hyc | well, there's nothing newer for the G1 that anyone knows of | 22:10 |
| hyc | and I really doubt the N1 radio hardware was compatible | 22:10 |
| rpierce99 | ah, i just keep seeing recommendations to upgrade radio with ril | 22:10 |
| hyc | on windows yeah, I see that | 22:10 |
| hyc | but on android the ril library is pretty generic | 22:11 |
| hyc | which might mean it misses some features. dunno. | 22:11 |
| rpierce99 | fwiw I ran your ril in cdma mode for about the last 24 hours with no issues other than the known | 22:12 |
| hyc | nice | 22:12 |
| hyc | I guess it's time to start making a list of open issues | 22:13 |
| hyc | or using a bug tracker | 22:13 |
| hyc | dunno | 22:13 |
| hyc | I should've reserved an extra post for myself on that thread. :P | 22:14 |
| rpierce99 | i was curious, what would happen with your new RIL if we put it on CDMA preferred, would it attempt CDMA and fall back to GSM? | 22:14 |
| hyc | dunno | 22:14 |
| hyc | right now it skips the SIM card setup | 22:14 |
| hyc | so without that, GSM should fail | 22:14 |
| rpierce99 | but android would attempt to set up CDMA, if it knew it failed, would it bounce over to the old gsm methodology | 22:15 |
| hyc | someone will have to read the android phone code to find out | 22:15 |
| rpierce99 | not a big deal, just trying to find a way that xdandroid could set one setting so users didn't have to deal with it | 22:16 |
| hyc | So far what I've seen is that when it fails to entre a new mode, it falls back to the last mode it was in | 22:16 |
| hyc | in practice I doubt you can travel seamlessly anyway. | 22:17 |
| rpierce99 | i meant more for a setting that would work for both the 400 and the 300 | 22:17 |
| hyc | I know | 22:17 |
| rpierce99 | k | 22:17 |
| hyc | but it still seems silly | 22:17 |
| hyc | you have to install a SIM card | 22:17 |
| hyc | there's a manual intervention regardless | 22:18 |
| rpierce99 | i'm not sure we're talking about the same thing | 22:18 |
| hyc | ok, go ahead and explain more | 22:18 |
| rpierce99 | i'm talking about FRX72 or whatever being set in a way that i can run it on my phone and you can run it on yours and neither have to mess with the "preferred network mode" it would just detect that yours cant run cdma and fall back to gsm | 22:19 |
| hyc | hmmm | 22:19 |
| hyc | We could have the init routine try both | 22:19 |
| rpierce99 | because as it is now, we'll probably end up having people making two "bundles" with the build.prop modified to run cdma mode | 22:20 |
| hyc | you probably need to do that anyway | 22:20 |
| hyc | hmmm | 22:20 |
| hyc | ok, Android always tries to use GSM if we send it a SIM status message | 22:21 |
| hyc | perhaps we can tell it to use CDMA by sending it an NV status message | 22:21 |
| hyc | but the next problem is, your phone is capable of both | 22:21 |
| hyc | so how do you decide which one to use? | 22:21 |
| rpierce99 | right, so it would have to detect that we're not registered on the network somehow | 22:21 |
| hyc | but it can't | 22:22 |
| hyc | i.e., you have to tell it what to initalize before it can try to register to any network | 22:22 |
| rpierce99 | so we'd have to rely on the menu to override the cdma setting for people using gsm on their 400/500s | 22:22 |
| hyc | yeah | 22:23 |
| Entropy512 | Only back for a few minutes | 22:23 |
| Entropy512 | got another blinkengreen SoD (this time, with wifi enabled, gonna try w/o) | 22:23 |
| Entropy512 | and this time - I haz logcat | 22:23 |
| hyc | entropy512: I posted a comment about your last log, on the thread | 22:23 |
| Entropy512 | posting to pastebin and will msg hyc with the results | 22:23 |
| hyc | timing issues... | 22:23 |
| Entropy512 | Yeah, saw in #htc-linux | 22:24 |
| hyc | ok | 22:24 |
| Entropy512 | about pppd being dead | 22:24 |
| Entropy512 | however at least that one was recoverable. :) | 22:24 |
| hyc | well, the first part was intended - pppd must quit because the network changed | 22:24 |
| hyc | the 2nd part is the bug, it tries to start again too soon | 22:24 |
| rpierce99 | so in theory could restarting pppd manually confirm the fix? | 22:25 |
| hyc | he already restarteed pppd manually | 22:25 |
| hyc | and it worked fine after that | 22:25 |
| hyc | oh I see | 22:26 |
| hyc | maybe | 22:26 |
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| Entropy512 | caught a green blink SoD in action | 22:37 |
| Entropy512 | http://pastebin.com/fbw3DAFE | 22:37 |
| Entropy512 | I scrubbed the potentially-private stuff other than rough netloc. :P | 22:37 |
| Entropy512 | hyc looked through it - seems like what causes us to go boom is if we try to set up a data call and it fails | 22:38 |
| Entropy512 | esp lines 187-209 | 22:38 |
| Entropy512 | wifi was on here, not sure if it matters or not | 22:39 |
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| hyc | usually data is shut off when wifi is connected | 22:39 |
| Entropy512 | other than causing data call setups more frequently (I think it sets up a data call as it enters sleep) | 22:39 |
| hyc | ah true, wifi turns off for sleep | 22:40 |
| Entropy512 | (shuts down wifi and switches to 3G for the background stuff) | 22:40 |
| hyc | and data comes back on | 22:40 |
| Entropy512 | betcha with wifi off it is nice and happy while I return to TV :) | 22:41 |
| hyc | mmm, right, it won't do as many connect/disconnects | 22:41 |
| hyc | I think I need to update my radio | 22:42 |
| hyc | haven't been seeing @HTCCSQ on mine | 22:42 |
| hyc | so my signal bars never change | 22:42 |
| Entropy512 | I forget which radio version I'm running, updated recently | 22:44 |
| hyc | you seem to be on the latest | 22:44 |
| Entropy512 | believe so | 22:44 |
| Entropy512 | oh yeah your RIL logs that now. :) | 22:44 |
| hyc | :P | 22:44 |
| hyc | no more guessing! | 22:44 |
| Entropy512 | I get HTCCSQs when the bars change | 22:45 |
| Entropy512 | often I force that by cupping my hands over the upper half of the phone | 22:45 |
| hyc | yeah, I don't get any changes | 22:45 |
| Entropy512 | usually will cause at least one bar drop | 22:45 |
| hyc | will try that | 22:45 |
| hyc | i watch the dBm reading in the About Phone | 22:45 |
| Entropy512 | ok back to brain-rotting | 22:45 |
| Entropy512 | I think dBm is derived from the CSQ results - in the original RIL it seems to jump significantly every time an HTCCSQ comes in | 22:46 |
| Entropy512 | I think around -97 dBm for HTCCSQ=4 | 22:46 |
| Entropy512 | I forget the increment - should try old RIL to get that | 22:46 |
| Entropy512 | bbl | 22:46 |
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