Sunday, 2011-03-27

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AdamBI'm loading Android on my HTC Touch Pro 2 CDMA (Sprint) and when linux is starting I get "Failed to mount the SD card.  Cannot continue." message.00:41
AdamBI have tried to format the SD Card as FAT32 and reloaded with no luck.00:41
AdamBany ideas?00:41
rpierce99i already said to update to a new kernel00:42
EdLinfrx06 is out00:42
rpierce99frx06 won't help, this issue happens at kernel00:42
arrrghhhindeed00:43
EdLina newer kernel than frx06's?00:43
arrrghhhnewer kernel should fix it00:43
arrrghhhEdLin, that's the system image00:43
rpierce99frx06 doesn't have a kernel00:43
arrrghhhnot the kernel00:43
arrrghhhif he gets my bundle for frx0600:43
EdLinI got the complete frx06 bundle, it seems to have a kernel. :P00:44
arrrghhhlol00:44
arrrghhhit does00:44
arrrghhhi must go00:45
arrrghhhpeace00:45
EdLink00:45
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rpierce99sure, try to use proper terminology though, FRX06 is itself just a system image, contains no kernel, the frx06 image is "bundled" with a kernel in arrrghhhs posts00:45
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EdLinspeaking of which, I just opened up the launcher, and all I got was the browser, calendar, camera, and calculator.00:46
rpierce99kernels are referenced by their build number on git, 1267 being whats bundled with frx06 by arrrghhh00:46
EdLinnot even a file manager so I can load an apk00:47
rpierce99yeah sometimes apps seem to dissappear for me too, i downloaded 2 tonight and launcher doesn't have them, a reboot fixes it most times for me but sometimes you have to wipe your data.img to get back custom apps00:47
rpierce99if there are "system" apps missing you might have to replace your system.ext200:48
EdLinfunny, when I went back to landscape they appeared.00:48
EdLiner, to portrait I mean00:48
rpierce99that is odd, might want to run a different launcher00:49
rpierce99personally i like zeam00:49
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rpierce99why do i get the feeling Adam8 is not even reading my suggestion, does IRC have an ignore function? lol00:54
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AdamBIt looks like I have the lates kernal according to the website that I'm lloking at00:56
AdamBWhat kernal are you suggesting and what website00:57
rpierce99http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/00:58
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AdamBJust so I understand zImage is the kernal?01:06
EdLinit just SOD'd on me.01:06
rpierce99zImage is the kernel, modules have to match the kernel otherwise wifi and  some other stuff might not work01:06
AdamBk01:06
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AdamBI extract all the modules in the root directory?01:08
rpierce99no, they stay in the package01:08
AdamBk01:08
rpierce99the package stays in the same folder as the kernel01:08
AdamBk thanks01:08
rpierce99you should have one already there to delete01:08
AdamBWith this new kernal would I still be able to use the Startup Utility showen on http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/startup-utility   ???01:13
rpierce99kernel doesn't care, all the startup utility does is launch haret so you don't have to01:13
rpierce99but don't use that site for reference anymore, it's long since outdated01:13
rpierce99it's not maintained anymore01:13
AdamBWell it’s booting up thanks for the advice, greatly appreciated.01:16
rpierce99any time01:16
rpierce99btw that is a known issue with some older kernels and faster sd cards, the workaround used to be much more difficult01:17
AdamBwell that was nice of the developers to include a fix in a newer kernal01:21
AdamBThis new kernal is lagging about 2 on touch ir keyboard. Any way to speed it up?01:44
AdamBGetting alot of "Force Close" notices01:45
rpierce99Force Close usually doesn't have anything to do with the kernel. I guess I should ask since you were using the old google site, what build are you running01:46
AdamBFRX04 2.2.101:47
rpierce99:P01:47
rpierce99update that01:47
AdamBk01:47
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rpierce99you should probably take the whole bundle from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=95196201:48
rpierce99or you could just update system.ext2 and pull a rootfs from somewhere01:49
rpierce99other than kernel those are the 2 things you're behind on01:49
AdamBk01:49
rpierce99i like F22s rootfs (it's linked from that thread)01:49
AdamBk01:50
rpierce99system.ext2 is also linked from that thread01:50
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AdamBthe full bundle has the lastes kernal, system.ext2 and rootfs?01:51
rpierce99yes01:51
AdamBMight as well do that01:51
rpierce99but not f22s rootfs01:51
AdamBk01:51
rpierce99his has some more options for keyboard mapping01:51
AdamBnice I'll give that a try01:52
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BladdysbrydHTC Touch HD... I haz one... WinMob on it and I want Android instead o_O Problem is, I can't find any site anywhere that makes any sense and a friend punted me here to ask for help... can anyone help?09:01
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ryannathansi wrote a guide for rhodium (tp2)09:20
ryannathansit should be pretty universal Bladdysbryd09:20
ryannathanshttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=98007909:21
ryannathansyou will need a startup.txt for your device though09:22
ryannathansget all the files from your forum though, not the tp2 section09:22
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hycAnyone have CDMA native android phone?14:08
hychttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12434631&postcount=2314:08
phhsomeone should have told him that strace is way easier to do than his thing.14:10
hyconly if you can start strace at boot time14:11
hycotherwise you miss the beginning of initialization14:11
oddzhighlandsun = hyc14:11
hycanyway, this wasn't a big deal, only 50 lines or so of actual code14:12
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odzif only incoming calls worked :(14:12
hycprobably need to backtrack a few revisions and see if it ever worked with any of my changes14:13
hycmost of you guys jumped in after I had already made several revisions14:13
odzphh: http://gitorious.org/~hyc/xdandroid/hycs-hardware_xdandroid-ril/ any ideas why incoming calls crashs ril with data enabled on cdma phones?14:14
phhconsidering the number of patches that has been made, that's unlikely.14:15
phhhyc: you can start strace *and* ril whenever you want ...14:15
hycphh: then you have to edit init.rc so the system doesn't start it automatically14:15
phhhyc: or you can stop it ...14:15
hycno14:16
hycif you stop and restart it usually the phone app will be hosed14:16
phh???14:16
hycy'think I haven't alreaady thought of this?14:16
phhit worked fine when I did that14:16
phhI already had strace of CDMA android devices14:16
phhI can't remember how I did that, but the first think I tried just worked14:17
hycthen why is CDMA support still broken :P14:17
phhdefine broken ?14:18
phhthe only thing I'd been told was cell towering14:18
hyccurrent xdandroid ril doesn't support MMS either14:18
hycand it's all a hack, pretending a CDMA phone is actually a GSM one. It should be using android's real CDMA support.14:19
hycit doesn't currently support 2G/3G toggle for CDMA, or any other network-type selection settings14:19
phhah.... that's what you call broken ...14:20
phhI just call that not featureful14:20
hycheh14:20
hycok, then it is under-implemented14:20
phhok14:20
hycand I intend to flesh it out14:20
phhso list of things that can go wrong14:20
phhstatic char sNITZtime[sizeof("08/10/28,19:08:37-20,1")+4];14:20
phhhave you checked android docs/code to see if that would actually work ?14:20
hycif what would actually work?14:21
hycthat works already14:21
phhhum wait i have to read the code14:21
phhok i'll see that later14:21
phhhyc: the sNITZtime is sent to android as a pointer ?14:22
phhor it's copied at some point ?14:22
hyceverything is pointers14:22
phhif it's sent as a pointer, that can be a problem14:22
phh(if it tries to read while it called this function multiple times)14:22
hycI suppose that's possible14:22
hycNITZ doesn't get updated many times in a row tho14:22
phhyeah sure.14:23
phhresponses[i].type = alloca(strlen(out) + 1);14:23
phh591strcpy(responses[i].type, out);14:23
phh590responses[i].type = out;14:23
phhdo you know what alloca is ?14:23
hycyes14:23
hycI didn't write that code.14:23
phhI know14:24
phhbut you deleted it.14:24
hycstack-based allocation is always dicy14:24
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hycyou get no indication if you've overrun the stack14:24
phhanyway, again I don't have the whole code yet, so I don't know if it might work14:24
phhbut replacing a pointer doesn't sound really good if I did a strcpy before14:24
phhIt means I copied the data at some point14:25
phhah yeah, because I wasn't sure of what the function at_tok_nextstr does14:25
phhI hope you're sure it doesn't do nasty thing on the pointers.14:25
hycof course.14:25
hycyou can just read at_tok.,c and see for yourself14:25
phh1482 char status[3];14:26
phh1483 char nettype[3];14:26
phh1484 char *responseStr[4] = {status, NULL, NULL, nettype};14:26
phh*reponsestr[0]=status14:26
phhwhich is a pointer14:26
phhthat is of size 3214:26
phhand not 814:26
phhah wait14:26
hycwtf are you talking about?14:26
phhI hate those notations ...14:26
hycall of this code works14:26
phhok it means (*responseStr)[4]14:26
hycfor GSM14:26
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phhhyc: your whole code works ?14:26
phhok then there is no problem14:27
phhbye.14:27
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hycnot for CDMA14:27
phhhyc: you're telling me your code is crashing14:27
hycwhich was where this conversation began...14:27
phh*and* you're telling me your changes are good14:27
phhwhile the good worked fine before14:27
hycno14:27
phhso what ?14:27
phhs/good/code/14:28
hycI was telling odz that nobody tested my code on CDMA after the first revision14:28
hycall of the changes after the first were just to get things working well on my GSM phone14:28
hycthe first revision was merging the vogue repo14:28
hycI mean, nobody tested on CDMA *at* the first revision14:28
hycand since that was the largest commit ... need to rewind to there and see if it was already broken at that point.14:29
hycwhich would just mean that I screwed up the merge14:29
hycbut since I've only got a GSM phone, and that's all I've been testing, I wouldn't have any way to know14:29
hycFor GSM it has been steadily improving with my subsequent commits14:30
phhi've two gsm phones, i've never had any ril crash on it -_-'14:31
hycYou must live and travel completely within strong signal areas14:31
hycI'm not the only one who ran into issues14:32
hycAnyway, now I can see exactly what's happening on my G1, and port that behavior into this tree for my TP214:32
phhwhich commit changed that ?14:33
phhyou can use G1's ril as well you know ?14:33
hycG1 RIL also crashes on TP214:33
phhoO14:33
phhI don't recall exactly what test I did14:34
hycand it didn't enable in-call audio at all14:34
phhbut some htc native android's ril worked fine on my TP214:34
phhit was a sense rom14:34
hycI fixed the ril wrapper to take care of that https://gitorious.org/~hyc/htc-hd2-android-libraries/hycs-libhtc_ril_wrapper14:34
hychmmm14:34
hycwell, I'd be curious to see which ril you used, and what phone it came from14:34
hycI would have expected G1 to be most compatible14:35
hycbut mebbe not14:35
phhwell, i said it was sense14:35
phhso anything but G1 :D14:35
hycthe G1 ril doesn't crash right away14:35
phhhow much time ?14:36
hycbut I got the same orange SoD with it14:36
phhI think my tests were only somethink like 10 minutes14:36
hycyeah, it would usually take longer than that14:36
hycI would try to see if it would survive overnight, it never did14:37
hyccurrently my patched ril does.14:37
phhanyway, you're telling me you're copying G1 ril's behaviour while it's not working.14:37
phhsorry if I find that funny.14:37
hycwell, not copying everything of course14:37
hycI can now see the G1 ril is doing a bunch of extra crap (multiple unsol notifications for the same event)14:38
hycwhich I already filtered out of my patched version14:38
hycbut now I can see how the NeighboringCellIDs is really supposed to work14:39
mesis Android.mk a xdandroid convention? google docs talk about makefiles, which are usually named Makefile14:39
hycwhich the current xdandroid ril totally botches14:39
hycAndroid.mk is an *Android* convention14:39
hycthey have their own build system14:39
mesdoesn't use make syntax?14:42
hycI think it's Gnumake14:42
hycjust with a lot of custom macros on top14:42
phhyup14:42
mesanyone know the macro used to specify DSO linking?14:42
phhDSO ?14:43
mesdynamic shared objets (ie. *,so)14:43
meserr *.so14:43
phhyou mean add some -lxx option to ld then ?14:43
mesyes14:43
phhI have it somewhere.14:43
mesthe new linker breakes the build14:44
phhLOCAL_SHARED_LIBRARIES += libblabla14:44
mesit breaks with: /usr/bin/ld: out/host/linux-x86/obj/STATIC_LIBRARIES/libcutils_intermediates/libcutils.a(threads.o): undefined reference to symbol 'pthread_getspecific@@GLIBC_2.014:45
phhoh, an host build14:45
phhdon't know if it's the same syntx14:45
mesI thought that was the one but it didn't work14:45
mesI see there is a host section and a device section14:46
mesOK in libpng, which is the first to break, the host section has no LOCAL_SHARED_LIBRARIES14:46
phhit builds libpng on host side ?14:47
mesI don't know, make has always just built whatever it needed14:48
mesI just added LOCAL_SHARED_LIBRARIES += -lpthread , I'll see what happens14:49
mesI should have said NO, when I saw the gcc4.5 and toolchain upgrade, but I thought I can always specify the old compiler14:51
phhhehe14:51
mesnow, a downgrade would be many hours to repair after the 250 meg of packages it wants to remove14:52
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mesI think that did it, next to brake is libcutils14:54
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mesNope, still won't link libpng14:57
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mesErr, is there a way to make clean in a subdirectory?14:59
mesor a list of the macros that have been defined?15:00
mesI see this seems to be it: http://source.android.com/porting/build_cookbook.html15:03
odzhyc: your ril from 3/25/11 10:11:34 is worse15:04
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hycodz: older is worse than latest?15:06
odzya15:06
odzandroid completed locked up15:06
hycI guess things are going in the right direction then :P15:06
odzthe latest one at least rings but crashs ril when you answer15:07
odzthis one just kills android no ring or anything15:07
hycok15:08
odzthats as far back as i have15:08
odzand thats with without it being in sleep15:08
odzwith sleep orange sod, no ringing15:09
odz3/25/11 10:11:34AM*15:09
hycok. later I'll go back and compile a march 24 build15:13
hycin the middle of something now15:13
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Bladdysbrydryannathans, it might be a silly question, but booting android onto a WinMo phone... does that unlock it as well or do i still need to do that?15:40
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hycchanging the OS doesn't affect lock status16:00
Bladdysbrydbugger >.>16:00
Bladdysbrydis there a way to unlock it without paying some dude in a shop to do it for me?16:00
hycdunno. which lock, sim lock? can't you just ask your provider for the unlock code?16:01
Bladdysbrydphone lock regarding networks16:03
Bladdysbrydthe Touch was an old contract phone froma friend and it is locked to a network i dont use16:04
hycwhat network are you trying to use it on? have you been their customer for more than 90 days?16:07
hycif so, they will probably get the code if you ask16:07
Bladdysbrydo216:07
Bladdysbrydand I have been their customer for 8 years16:07
BladdysbrydxD16:07
hycthen there's no harm in asking them16:07
BladdysbrydI'll ring them tomorrow and ask16:08
hycas long as the phone is one they would normally support16:08
hycT-Mobile sent me the code for 2 G1s, one was mine and one I bought for my fiancee16:09
hycbut they won't do more than 1 per 90 days...16:09
Bladdysbrydwell16:09
BladdysbrydI am out tomorrow buying the SD card to put droid onto the Touch16:09
Bladdysbrydso I can pop into the o2 store and ask em16:10
hyccool. it usually takes them a couple days to get a code16:10
hycthey contact the phone manufacturer, etc...16:10
Bladdysbrydgives me time to cock up putting droid on it then xD16:11
Bladdysbrydcos it is GONNA happen on account of me not having a clue what I am doing16:12
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renreneHello16:21
renreneis anyone running android on a touch pro?16:21
DcMedicwhen you say android, what exactly do you mean?16:25
renreneI download xdandoid16:25
renreneI saw this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQQ8omNZ4Rs&feature=fvsr16:25
renrenebut in my archive (system-FRX05.ext2) is only one file16:26
renrenesystem.ex216:26
DcMedicyou need to get the full package.16:26
DcMedicstart here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=95196216:27
renreneis it usefull now?16:27
renreneor is the battery drain in one hour?16:27
DcMedictry it and see for yourself, it can be different for everyone.16:27
DcMedicI use as my main os16:28
renreneoke do you have also experience with dual boot?16:28
DcMedicI don't.16:28
renrenehmm is it easy to remove?16:29
DcMedicit's on your sd card, just delete it. nothing is flashed to your device the above link.16:29
renreneand the bootloader?16:30
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DcMedicwhat about it. it is two different setups16:31
renreneis it easy to remove the bootloader too?16:31
DcMedicjust reflash with a winmo rom16:31
renrenewow16:32
renreneharet does not has a one mouseclick removal?16:33
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DcMedicit is not as complicated as you are making it out to be.16:34
renrenehmm16:35
DcMedicread the faq and tuts, try it, then ask the questions.16:35
renrenethanks16:35
DcMedicyw16:36
renrenepff cdma or gsm?16:39
DcMedicwhat is pff16:40
renreneah a dutch sentence :)16:40
renrenefor I don't know which one I need to use16:40
DcMedicwhat do you want to do? flash it like winmo and try it, or install it to your sd card.16:43
renreneit seems to be booting :)16:52
renreneIT boots thank DcMedic16:54
DcMedicok16:57
odzhyc: any luck?17:03
renrenetouch screen calibration is messed up17:05
DcMedicthats is all explained in the same post you downloaded the package from. read the post first.17:07
DcMedichttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11314710&postcount=1   in this post17:08
hycodz: 1 sec17:10
odzkk17:10
hychttp://highlandsun.com/hyc/ril-2ba9696.zip17:11
hycthat's the first big merge17:11
odzok testing...lets see17:11
hyc(with Vogue tree)17:11
hycI expect it will behave badly ;)17:11
odz=x17:12
hycbut let's hope it's OK. that will make searching for the problem easier, since all commits after that are small.17:12
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odzso far it booted up ok17:16
odzgot a E icon instead of 3g17:16
hycmmm. nifty17:17
hycyour logcat'ing this too right?17:18
odzya17:18
hyccool17:18
odzoutgoing calls are ok17:18
odzlooks like incoming calls work17:21
odzso its one of your commits17:21
hychow nice :P17:21
hycand you tested with data active?17:21
odzya17:21
odznow ill test with it in sleep17:21
hycok17:21
odzyep17:23
hycit's working fine?17:23
odzincoming works when its in sleep but it takes a long time17:23
hycok17:24
odzlike 4-5 rings before the phone starts ringing17:24
odzlatest broken ril rings within 1-2 rings17:24
hycso, you can have it fast, or you cacn have it working. not both. :P17:25
odzthis rill as it is is pretty awesome bwt lol17:25
odzit sleeps really fast17:25
hycok, so everything is fine on this one17:26
odzyep17:26
hycgood to know17:26
hycthat was my first commit on Wed Mar 23. I guess we can step forward to first commit of Thursday Mar 2417:27
hycnarrow it down one by one. you up for it?17:27
odzyep lets do it17:27
hycsave that logcat by the way17:27
odzim saving it all to /sdcard/log#.txt17:27
hyccool17:28
hycok. http:// ... ril-85b486f.zip17:29
odzkk17:32
odzbooting...17:35
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odzthis one has 3G icon but the signel bar is broken17:37
hycok17:37
hycwe can ignore that I think, since the signal bars got fixed later17:38
hycjust look for the hangs17:38
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odzthis one is ok17:39
hycok, then we move on to first of Friday17:39
odzthis one rings really fast17:40
odzrings after 1 ring in sleep17:40
hyckeep notes on this stuff ;)17:40
odz:=)17:41
hycok. ril-f057779.zip uploaded17:41
odzbooting..17:44
odzhang17:47
hycOK, that gives us a narrow range to search17:47
hychang on boot?17:47
hycor during call?17:47
odzit hard locked when i tried to call the phone17:47
odzeverything is completely frozen17:48
hycthere are only 3 commits between this one and the previous img17:48
hycso I'll backup to the middle one17:48
odzkk17:49
hycril-76ebca5.zip17:49
DcMedic? mms should be working right17:51
odzbooting..17:51
hycDCMedic: I'm told that CDMA can't reveive mms17:51
hycreceive17:51
DcMedicok. I couldn't remember what I was reading.. thanks.  I'm able to send them with gsm.17:52
hycyes, send/receive works fine with gsm17:52
DcMedicI just don't use it that often. lol17:52
DcMedicobviously17:53
hycme neither17:53
odzsod17:55
odzon incoming call17:55
hycok, I'm going to back up one more17:55
hycril-ecc7da2.zip17:56
odzbooting..17:58
odzno service18:01
hychm. previous one is 85b486f which you said is working18:01
odzya18:02
hycso ecc7da2 is a culprit18:02
hycok, ril-test.zip18:05
hycthis is a partial revert18:06
hycthere are only 3 actual changes in that commit, I've undone 1 of them18:07
hycodz: still there?18:18
odzya18:18
hycany luck with ril-test.zip?18:18
odzstill no service so im starting with a new data img18:18
hycok18:18
odzno service18:22
hycok I'm going to revert that entire commit18:23
hycnew ril-test.zip18:25
hycthis is f057779 with ecc7da2 reverted18:25
* hyc should've listened to phh in the first place ...18:27
phhah ? i'd said something else than bulllshit ?18:27
hyc;)18:28
hycwon't know till odz gives a result18:28
hycbut this commit is the specific one you said would be a problem18:28
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phhhyc: i took it in the chronological order -_-'18:29
phhand took the ones that looked somehow suspicious18:29
hycI guess you've been inside this code for a lot longer than me18:30
phhlol18:31
phhnot really18:31
phhand long time ago18:31
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odzbooting..18:40
odzhmm its taking a long time to boot18:45
odztrying a new data img18:47
odzhmm :/ stuck on the boot logo18:53
odzhmm finally booted18:55
odzthat took a while18:55
odzhyc still there?18:56
odzhyc: that ril works18:59
odzso i guess phh was right :P19:02
phhyay :D19:02
odzhah hyc's ril actually sleeps in a call with using a gb build19:19
phhuh? sometimes it doesn't sleep ?19:19
odzit goes into sleep when im in a call with is pretty cool19:20
phhwhich is normal -_-'19:21
odzaudio keeps going but the led turns solid green19:21
odzo.O19:21
phhthe rom i've running, which is fairly old, with my own RIL, is indeed sleeping during calls.19:24
odzwell the current cdma xdandroid ril ever did that19:25
phhweird19:26
odznever*19:26
stinebdcdma blows19:28
stinebd(finally something me and phh agree on)19:29
phhlol19:29
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Bladdysbrydbah19:37
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Bladdysbrydnever trust Google19:37
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rpierce99did you get your 3ds stinebd19:44
stinebddid19:44
rpierce99everything you had imagined?19:44
stinebdi'd played it before so i knew what i was getting19:44
hycodz, had to step out19:45
odzoh19:45
hycwill try a fresh rebuild in a few hours19:45
odzkk cool :P19:45
hychopefully i didn't break anything else after that commit :p19:46
odz:P19:48
phhstinebd: when do we get xdandroid on it ? :D19:48
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mario__facebook contacts sync problem19:57
rpierce99Adam8: did your FC problem get resolved with FRX06?19:58
arrrghhhmario__, is that a question!??19:59
mario__yes19:59
arrrghhhi don't use facebook, but i hear the built-in integration doesn't work19:59
arrrghhhand you have to use the app19:59
arrrghhhthru the market19:59
mario__yes, i have the app but i  cant get it to sync my facebook contacts into the contacts app (stock app) i only can get the folder facebook20:00
arrrghhhmeh20:01
arrrghhhcan't stand fb, sorry.20:01
arrrghhhrpierce99, this sounds up your alley20:01
arrrghhh:P20:01
rpierce99nah i only use the app, and i don't like your tone Mr.20:02
arrrghhhlol20:02
rpierce99i don't think the contacts sync options work20:02
rpierce99there are 3rd party apps that do it though20:02
mario__yeah , i guess it didnt work & do you know which ones?20:03
rpierce99no, sorry20:03
mario__lol, ok.20:03
mario__how can yo get live wallpapers on frx06, i tried some files on this site (http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/faq) and donwload the files and when i picked the wallpaper i got FC20:05
rpierce99support for live wallpapers was removed because they make the device run like crap, you can get them to work with some effort but it is certainly not worth it20:07
arrrghhhi don't think you can20:07
arrrghhhpeople have tried20:07
arrrghhhand failed20:07
arrrghhhlike rpierce99 said20:07
arrrghhhthey sucked donkey balls20:07
arrrghhhand we got so many complaints about them being shitty, we removed them20:07
arrrghhhless complaints about them being removed...20:07
arrrghhhironically20:07
DcMedicyeah, live wallpapers puts a big tax on the processor, which is already humming.. I always got fc's.20:09
mario__screw live wallpapers then llol.20:09
arrrghhhindeed20:09
arrrghhh^^ that was our thoughts as well mario__ ;)20:10
arrrghhhreboot time20:10
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mario__i have my phone connect to the pc & usb drive work when running android? since android runs off the sdcard?20:12
DcMedicumm, I use droid explorer.20:12
DcMedicyou will have access to the card, but not to the device memory20:13
mario__but can you see the files on the computer when running android then?20:13
DcMedicyyes20:13
mario__im gonna download that thene20:14
mario__how long does your battery last anyone?20:16
rpierce99rhods can get up to a couple days, depending on use, other devices get less than 8 hours i believe20:17
DcMedicmine last about 8 hours, maybe, heavy usage around 4-6 hours. That is with the newest kernel, the one just previous to this I got almost 12 hours.20:18
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mario__mines is a rhod 400 and only gets like 4 hours to 5 hours : / any help? i turn off connections when im not using them and turn down brightness20:19
rpierce99turn on auto backlight, turn off gps and network location, and keep your kernel up to date20:19
rpierce991276 is probably the best for battery life right now20:20
rpierce99the newest ones have issues staying asleep20:20
DcMedic^^^^ agreed20:21
mario__i have this kernel( htc-msm-linux @ 20110228_202832 ) because the latest one had my battery overheating it & draining it. btw, whats the 1276? lol im a beginier20:23
rpierce991276 is the kernel version number, unfortunately it's not visible in that file name20:26
mario__well i got it off this site http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/20:27
mario__how would i find the kernel 1276"20:27
rpierce99if you look at the modules filename the build number is in there, otherwise you have to click on view build log on that site and scroll to the last line20:27
rpierce991276 is the one you have20:28
mario__hold on i just checked it & i have kernle 128720:30
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mario__do i have to rename the module folder so Haret can reconzie it?20:34
rpierce99delete the old zImage and modules file, the new zImage should be just zImage, don't rename the modules-.........tgz20:34
mario__thanks man20:35
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mario__can you overclock 768mhz20:39
rpierce99i don't overclock at all, didn't see a benefit when i tried it, but each phone is different, some people can get ridiculous overclocks, some people can't overclock at all20:40
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mario__yeah, cuz i have mines at 765 lol but i dont see much of a diffrence20:40
mario__set mtype 2292 <----- whats that under my startup.txt20:40
rpierce99tells haret what type of hardware you have20:41
mario__ok, thanks for everyone answering my questions im only a begginer keep up the good work20:42
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odz:P21:52
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odzarrrghhh when are you gonna update your cm7 post with system.ex2?22:06
arrrghhhwhenever i figure out how to do eeeeet22:06
arrrghhhi was messing with it yesterday22:06
arrrghhhhad to rebuild today22:06
arrrghhhcatchin up on the forums, then i'm going to do just that :P22:07
arrrghhhi also noticed the new one from neopeek is 'barebones'22:07
arrrghhhso i gotta add some apps22:07
arrrghhhi couldn't even find the market...22:07
arrrghhhit was fast tho22:07
odzi bet22:08
hycyeah, android is a little stupid that way, the more apps you install, the slower it goes22:08
arrrghhhha22:08
arrrghhhsounds like windows..22:08
arrrghhhwth22:08
odzheh22:08
arrrghhhit was fast22:08
arrrghhhbut i couldn't do anything22:08
arrrghhhuseless22:09
hycat boot time the media scanner opens every app22:09
arrrghhhso i'll put out another build of it soon22:09
arrrghhhas soon as i do figure out the loop'd mount trick ;)22:09
odzso his barebones one works with cdma now?22:09
arrrghhhyup22:09
arrrghhhi got data22:09
odzsweet22:09
hycso more apps == slower boots, less free ram22:09
arrrghhhi didn't test the data failing after a call tho22:09
odzbwt hyc's ril is awesome22:09
arrrghhhdid you fix it up ?22:09
hycpretty much22:10
odzit sleeps when your in a call22:10
odzsaves a ton of power :P22:10
hycwe found the offending commit22:10
arrrghhhthat doesn't seem right22:10
arrrghhhlol22:10
odznah22:10
arrrghhhhyc, which?22:10
odz[19:24] <phh> the rom i've running, which is fairly old, with my own RIL, is indeed sleeping during calls.22:10
odzso its normal :P just weird for us22:10
arrrghhhi don't get that22:10
arrrghhhhow can it be sleeping22:10
arrrghhhif you're in a call...22:11
arrrghhhit's sleeping, but downloading from the market22:11
arrrghhhor streaming music22:11
hycthe radio is independent22:11
arrrghhhwell22:11
arrrghhhthere's other things going22:11
arrrghhhdsps22:11
stinebdarrrghhh: arm11 can sleep in a call, since arm9 is doing all the work22:11
arrrghhhetc22:11
arrrghhhorly22:11
* arrrghhh stfu's22:11
odzheh22:11
arrrghhhi would've thought there would be other resources needed22:12
arrrghhhthan just arm922:12
stinebdthere are22:12
stinebdbut arm9 controls them directly22:12
arrrghhhok22:12
hychave to scroll back here too far to find the commit id22:12
arrrghhhhyc, what do you mean tho offending commit22:12
hycand i'm out, not by mypc right now22:12
arrrghhhpreventing sleep from in calls?22:12
stinebdonce you set audio parameters and stuff, you don't need arm11 for processing anymore22:12
hycno, causing hang22:12
arrrghhhSoD?22:12
hycask odz22:12
arrrghhh?22:13
arrrghhhstinebd, cool.  definitely didn't know that ;)22:13
odznope running smooth since i booted it22:13
arrrghhhwell what hang do you mean22:13
arrrghhhthe SoD hang i presume?22:13
arrrghhhwhile receiving call, switching modes, towers, etc.22:13
odzya22:14
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arrrghhhso i need to get a native cdma android device22:14
arrrghhhhmmm22:14
arrrghhhtryin to think if anyone at work has such a beast22:14
odzarrrgh http://highlandsun.com/hyc/ril-test.zip <-- give it a test :P everything but the data icon and signal bar works. 30secs bug is gone and it sleeps in call22:15
hycoh, it occurs to me, you could also try the G1 ril on your phone, with my wrapper22:15
rpierce99g1 = gsm though22:15
hycbut the ril is universal22:16
odzinteresting22:17
hycoh, and something interesting i noticed, with xdandroid ril, phone reports basband version as xxxxU22:17
hycwith G1 ril, it reports xxxxH22:17
odzhyc got a link to the g1 ril?22:17
hycnot handy sorry22:18
odzrpierce99 you should give hyc's ril a test too :P22:21
arrrghhhwhy didn't he update the post with it?22:21
arrrghhhsmth experimental?  :P22:21
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odzya22:21
arrrghhhmoreso than usual at least?  haha22:21
odzwell experimental for cdma users22:22
arrrghhhsounds like it'd be better than the one that's posted for CDMA users :P22:22
arrrghhhdamn reboots22:22
arrrghhhbrb22:22
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hycironically i'm on my g1 right now. mebbe i can scp from here, don't remember if i installedit.22:23
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hycscp isn't working here, gets an error msg22:28
odz:(22:29
arrrghhhugh22:30
arrrghhhcm7's probably not happening tonight.22:31
arrrghhhstill need to get access to my server22:31
arrrghhhsomehow i saved the keys for xdandroid.com, but i lost the ones to my server :/22:31
rpierce99you need access to linux? something i could do for you on my mac?22:31
arrrghhhjust trying to get cm7 loop'd.  i need to play around with it, i have an idea... just need to see if it works.22:32
odzaww22:35
arrrghhhw00t22:35
arrrghhhno replacement for physical access.22:35
arrrghhhi guess i can setup the keys later :P22:35
odzcant you just use genext2fs to create it?22:37
arrrghhhthat's what i'm using22:37
arrrghhhi think i need to modify some stuff in init tho22:38
arrrghhhwe'll see22:38
odzoh =x22:40
arrrghhhi'll get it workin22:40
odzthis weekend has been great :P cdma 30secs bug fixed, sleeping in calls and now cm7 :D22:41
arrrghhhhehe22:41
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odzwhere is init in loop'd builds?22:48
arrrghhhin rootfs22:50
arrrghhhi believe22:50
arrrghhhperhaps i'm just being dumb22:50
arrrghhhgive me some time :P22:50
hycyeah22:50
arrrghhhi must learn22:50
hycrootfs22:50
hyci can't believe the moronic posts on my ril thread. was i really not clear that rilspy is only for use with the original htc ril?22:52
odzheh i just saw that22:52
arrrghhhlol22:53
arrrghhhnoobs are noobs22:53
hyci think that's the most aggravating part of this work.22:53
hycgetting the code right, no big deal.22:53
arrrghhhwhy do you think people like me are necessary22:54
arrrghhh:D22:54
hycdealing with people who can't read - pure aggravation  :p22:54
odzpeople just see something posted and start clicking away22:54
arrrghhhdevs would go nuts trying to support all the noobs22:54
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arrrghhhi go nuts trying to support all the noobs.22:54
hyclol22:54
arrrghhhyou won't believe how many people get driven to my kernel testing thread22:54
arrrghhhand they just download, don't read the first post at all.22:54
odzyou should put the instructions in folders and have them click though 10-15 folders of instructions :P22:54
arrrghhhthen create threads asking why the green LED blinks before going solid green22:55
arrrghhhstabstabstab22:55
arrrghhhlol22:55
arrrghhhthat's awesome22:55
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rpierce99hyc: where does the command line for running rild come from, i tried changing the build.prop rild.libpath and it didn't change from loading the wrong ril22:56
rpierce99or i guess that's not specific to hyc if anyone wants to jump in :)22:57
odzno clue :P22:59
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odzwhat are you trying to do? run his ril?22:59
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rpierce99no22:59
rpierce99experimenting :P23:00
arrrghhhaw23:00
arrrghhhcm7 seems to freeze right after A N D R O I D23:00
arrrghhhi shall try a different kernel to make sure23:01
odz:(23:01
arrrghhhdamn23:05
arrrghhhuntracked pid's on the autobuild kernel23:06
arrrghhhi'm missing something :P23:06
odzcm7 is gb?23:08
arrrghhhyes23:09
odzmaybe this? http://test.jetdroid.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=38123:10
arrrghhhinit.rc23:11
arrrghhhhm23:11
odzanother post says its 3rd party fonts o.O  http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=960905#1148162823:12
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hycwerpierce99: init.rc23:17
hycon a regular android build, init.rc invokes rild with no parameters23:17
hycand it just picks them up from the props23:17
hycon xdandroid, init.rc invokes rild with a specific library argument23:18
rpierce99k so build.prop does nothing in this case then23:18
hycso again, my instrucitons for rilspy were for native Android phones23:18
rpierce99no i'm not trying this with your stuff23:18
xdandroidDonation received! Thanks, Pit Flyer!23:31
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hycstupid git. The $Id$ that it expands doesn't actually match its real commit ID23:36
odz:(23:39
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