| fishingmedic | I use taskiller | 00:00 |
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| jonpry | or, you have some console right. run top | 00:00 |
| stinebd | epic return of system_server issue?! | 00:00 |
| jonpry | thats what i think | 00:01 |
| stinebd | but usually you get acore anr with that | 00:02 |
| fishingmedic | can't do anything with this, couldn't hit force close or wait on the phone, then home screen came up in the background and now the screen is black and nothing does anything | 00:02 |
| arrrghhh | adw doesn't like to be underclocked? | 00:02 |
| jonpry | i dunno what adw is | 00:02 |
| fishingmedic | yeah it wasn't an acore error, just FC for ADW and then phone | 00:02 |
| arrrghhh | 3rd party launcher | 00:03 |
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| fishingmedic | this thing is frozen solid, but not a sod | 00:08 |
| jonpry | arrrghhh, what is this? | 00:08 |
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| arrrghhh | i've had those before | 00:09 |
| arrrghhh | system poop? | 00:09 |
| arrrghhh | no clue what the cause is. usually from multitasking is when i get it. | 00:09 |
| arrrghhh | or attempting to multitask | 00:09 |
| fishingmedic | i was doing a few diff things but not really multi tasking, was trying to make a phone call to see if that caused problems and it froze up | 00:10 |
| jonpry | fishingmedic, when are you getting adb :) | 00:11 |
| stinebd | i guess it caused problems | 00:11 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:11 |
| fishingmedic | im actually sitting at my desktop right now trying lol | 00:12 |
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| fishingmedic | but im also juggling trying to keep water from coming in my basement lmao | 00:12 |
| jonpry | is phone call somehow related to SOD? | 00:12 |
| arrrghhh | Oo? | 00:12 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry, don't think so.. | 00:13 |
| jonpry | just don't get it on the rhod | 00:13 |
| arrrghhh | but it's not like i can tell for sure. | 00:13 |
| fishingmedic | I was just trying to do diff things with it, it was waking ok but wanted to try using the radio, run an app or two, put it to sleep see if it wakes ok | 00:13 |
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| fishingmedic | just rebooted to android again, and sluggish still | 00:16 |
| jonpry | run top | 00:16 |
| fishingmedic | what's that? in terminal emulator? | 00:17 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 00:18 |
| arrrghhh | shows running processes | 00:18 |
| fishingmedic | it's on the lock screen and won't even unlock | 00:18 |
| arrrghhh | and proc utilization | 00:18 |
| jonpry | yeah in the terminal, the command is: top | 00:18 |
| jonpry | i get that all the time from bad touch screen | 00:18 |
| fishingmedic | alright, now got a process system FC | 00:19 |
| jonpry | who need that | 00:21 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:22 |
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| fishingmedic | now it's slowly going through another reboot to android | 00:28 |
| fishingmedic | don't think the phone liked the test | 00:29 |
| jonpry | and how is adb? | 00:29 |
| fishingmedic | just tried running droid explorer on my XP machine and keep getting errors | 00:29 |
| arrrghhh | fishingmedic, do you have droid explorer installed on the machine? | 00:30 |
| fishingmedic | I'm gonna have arrrghhhh remote in to my laptop (vista) or desktop (XP) to get this thing running | 00:30 |
| fishingmedic | no, I keep getting errors on it arrrghhh | 00:30 |
| jonpry | go arrrghhh | 00:30 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 00:32 |
| arrrghhh | teamviewer ftw | 00:32 |
| arrrghhh | fishingmedic, jaja? | 00:32 |
| arrrghhh | fishingmedic, you want to do that now? | 00:33 |
| fishingmedic | yeah, I loaded Teamviewer a while ago, just never had the time to touch base with you on it | 00:33 |
| fishingmedic | how long will it take? | 00:34 |
| arrrghhh | for me to get adb working? | 00:34 |
| arrrghhh | not very. | 00:34 |
| fishingmedic | yeah, I may have to run, like I said, I'm on flood patrol lmao | 00:34 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 00:34 |
| arrrghhh | no worries | 00:34 |
| arrrghhh | don't really need to be at your lappy :P | 00:34 |
| fishingmedic | we can give it a shot | 00:34 |
| fishingmedic | is XP or Vista machine better? | 00:34 |
| arrrghhh | /msg me the partner ID | 00:34 |
| arrrghhh | whichever you prefer | 00:34 |
| arrrghhh | i'd probably prefer the XP machine, but either should work. | 00:35 |
| arrrghhh | i've done it on xp and 7 | 00:35 |
| fishingmedic | I'll do it on my XP desktop | 00:35 |
| arrrghhh | k | 00:35 |
| fishingmedic | what do you need from me | 00:37 |
| arrrghhh | lol i just sent you a msg | 00:37 |
| arrrghhh | do you not see it? | 00:37 |
| arrrghhh | in IRC | 00:38 |
| fishingmedic | nah didn't see it, hang on | 00:38 |
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| jonpry | hey arrrghhh | 11:58 |
| arrrghhh | yo | 11:58 |
| arrrghhh | what's up sir | 11:58 |
| arrrghhh | (just sounds wrong) | 11:58 |
| arrrghhh | what's up.... sir | 11:58 |
| jonpry | nada | 11:58 |
| arrrghhh | hoping to catch wistilt2, i guess i can just shoot him an email | 11:58 |
| arrrghhh | RIL build keeps rebooting to winmo | 11:59 |
| jonpry | you think the sod is fixed? | 11:59 |
| arrrghhh | never really had the issue of late | 11:59 |
| arrrghhh | haven't had one for months, no joke | 11:59 |
| arrrghhh | had one driving thru glenwood canyon last week | 11:59 |
| arrrghhh | on my vaca :P | 11:59 |
| arrrghhh | but the phone worked great on the slopes | 12:00 |
| jonpry | interesting | 12:00 |
| jonpry | i have never had one until scbs | 12:00 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:00 |
| arrrghhh | i wasn't running scbs a ton tho | 12:01 |
| arrrghhh | i ran it all night and all day | 12:01 |
| arrrghhh | then went back to testing wistilt2's madness. | 12:01 |
| arrrghhh | although it now has scbs in it | 12:01 |
| arrrghhh | i should run it... | 12:01 |
| arrrghhh | bleh, stupid reboots to winmo. | 12:01 |
| jonpry | from ril? | 12:01 |
| arrrghhh | no clue what's the cause | 12:02 |
| arrrghhh | that's the only major thing that's changed | 12:02 |
| arrrghhh | ofc wistilt2 said klog was still disabled | 12:02 |
| jonpry | except the kernel | 12:02 |
| arrrghhh | so i can't get any historical logs | 12:02 |
| arrrghhh | where we used to be able to.. | 12:02 |
| arrrghhh | not sure what's moved and why but it sucks. | 12:02 |
| rpierce99 | arrrghhh: is it reproducable? If so I could see if mine does it too | 12:02 |
| arrrghhh | i know he moved the fb around | 12:02 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, well... i don't know what produces it | 12:02 |
| arrrghhh | it rebooted to winmo overnight.. | 12:03 |
| rpierce99 | k, if you figure out a way to make it happen let me know | 12:03 |
| arrrghhh | i just tried booting with a new data.img, and it rebooted on that boot as soon as it got to the lock screen basically | 12:03 |
| arrrghhh | then the next boot with that data.img just hangs on the first penguin, i don't see a word to text. very odd... | 12:03 |
| arrrghhh | i've had this weird issue where it sometimes hangs with 6 lines | 12:04 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps with this kernel those lines are removed along with the thousands of others on boot lol | 12:04 |
| arrrghhh | looks like i'm booting fine now, just waiting for... there she is. those flickering androids. | 12:05 |
| arrrghhh | i've tried to read and copy down those six lines, but it only happens a few times. just boot again. | 12:05 |
| rpierce99 | are you on GB? | 12:05 |
| arrrghhh | no | 12:05 |
| rpierce99 | why are they flickering? | 12:05 |
| arrrghhh | wistilt2's RIL madness | 12:05 |
| arrrghhh | wistilt2 didn't add the libs correctly | 12:05 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i could just bind mount them | 12:05 |
| arrrghhh | don't really care. | 12:05 |
| arrrghhh | couldn't be the source of the reboots...? | 12:06 |
| arrrghhh | mismatched libs? | 12:06 |
| arrrghhh | as i understand it that flicker is from a mismatched gralloc | 12:06 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, didn't you try wistilt2's RIL setup in a "sandbox" if you will? | 12:06 |
| arrrghhh | new folder lol | 12:07 |
| rpierce99 | I did, i never noticed the flickering though | 12:07 |
| arrrghhh | fawk reboot to winmo. | 12:07 |
| arrrghhh | really? | 12:07 |
| arrrghhh | wth | 12:07 |
| arrrghhh | did you bind mount anything? | 12:07 |
| rpierce99 | i also didn't reboot 18 times like you are | 12:07 |
| rpierce99 | could have easily missed it | 12:07 |
| arrrghhh | old user.conf bind mountings? | 12:07 |
| rpierce99 | no i'm not mount binding anything, i'll reboot back into his test and see | 12:07 |
| arrrghhh | i keep getting reboots to winmo | 12:08 |
| arrrghhh | this sucks | 12:08 |
| jonpry | arrrghhh, you get a ramconsole or anything from that? | 12:09 |
| arrrghhh | do i have to pull the card and bust open the data.img? | 12:10 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not even sure how to do this since it keeps rebooting | 12:10 |
| arrrghhh | i might be able to adb in and pull the crap from dropbox | 12:10 |
| arrrghhh | /data/system/dropbox | 12:10 |
| jonpry | dropbox is useless | 12:13 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:13 |
| arrrghhh | enlighten me as to how to use ramconsole | 12:14 |
| arrrghhh | dropbox is useless, of late | 12:14 |
| jonpry | when the system goes down hard, interrupts are disabled, which among other things, means that sd card if turned off | 12:14 |
| arrrghhh | it used to get us all sorts of magical historical logs | 12:14 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 12:14 |
| arrrghhh | reboots to winmo we'd get | 12:14 |
| arrrghhh | but you're right, SoD logs were useless from dropbox | 12:14 |
| jonpry | i dunno if wistilt2 moved ramconsole | 12:14 |
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| arrrghhh | fawk | 12:14 |
| arrrghhh | how do you usually get to its sweet sweet log goodness | 12:15 |
| jonpry | yeah, he said smi2+22 | 12:15 |
| rpierce99 | jonpry: I just figured the last kmsg text was pulled from ramconsole on the next reboot and stuffed into dropbox | 12:15 |
| jonpry | no | 12:15 |
| rpierce99 | well then I guess I once again have no idea how last_kmsg and SYSTEM_LAST_KMSG work | 12:16 |
| rpierce99 | which i guess I shouldn't really be surprised by that | 12:16 |
| jonpry | it may get last_kmsg, but that is only one line | 12:16 |
| jonpry | i dunno what this dropbox contraption is that you are using | 12:17 |
| jonpry | easy way to tell is do ramconsole and compare to dropbox | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | it's magical | 12:17 |
| arrrghhh | when it works | 12:18 |
| jonpry | so haretconsole | 12:18 |
| arrrghhh | o yea | 12:19 |
| arrrghhh | that thing | 12:19 |
| phh | jonpry: have you read/answered my yesterday's comments about rtc alarm stuff ? | 12:19 |
| rpierce99 | my flying droids are not flickering at all | 12:19 |
| phh | (I "lost" my server, and so my logs ..) | 12:19 |
| jonpry | and pwf dmesg.txt 03600000 0x20000 | 12:19 |
| jonpry | er. | 12:19 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, your user.conf isn't bind mounting anything? | 12:19 |
| jonpry | pwf dmesg.txt 0x03600000 0x20000 | 12:19 |
| jonpry | phh: you said you didn't know how it works. i assumed you were talking about the existing code | 12:20 |
| phh | jonpry: I mean android's code to ""properly"" register own timer | 12:20 |
| jonpry | i don't understand | 12:21 |
| arrrghhh | damnit haretconsole why aren't you working | 12:21 |
| jonpry | what is the question? | 12:21 |
| arrrghhh | it's telnet to port 9999 right? | 12:21 |
| jonpry | yeah | 12:21 |
| arrrghhh | 169.254.2.1 | 12:21 |
| jonpry | yeah | 12:21 |
| arrrghhh | bleh | 12:21 |
| phh | jonpry: android controls the rtc alarm timer by itself | 12:21 |
| phh | and i'm wondering how your code works with it. | 12:22 |
| jonpry | my code just set the maximum wake up time. o if android wants sooner, it wakes up sooner, if it wants longer, we just ignore that | 12:22 |
| arrrghhh | putty is not cooperating for some reason. | 12:22 |
| phh | uh ? | 12:22 |
| phh | i'll have to reread it then | 12:22 |
| jonpry | thats what max_diff is all about | 12:23 |
| jonpry | arrrghhh, you hit listen for connections and are on activesync? | 12:23 |
| arrrghhh | oy. it's early. | 12:24 |
| arrrghhh | missed a crucial step. haretconsole needs haret to be running... | 12:24 |
| phh | no, it's 6pm30. | 12:24 |
| arrrghhh | -_- | 12:24 |
| arrrghhh | phh, LIES | 12:24 |
| arrrghhh | you're in the future | 12:24 |
| phh | no | 12:25 |
| phh | i'm in GMT+1. | 12:25 |
| phh | or +2 I never know | 12:25 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:25 |
| arrrghhh | stupid DST | 12:25 |
| arrrghhh | hey works a lot better when you do it right. | 12:25 |
| phh | :) | 12:25 |
| jonpry | i'd bet | 12:25 |
| arrrghhh | thanks jonpry, now let me try this command | 12:25 |
| rpierce99 | arrrghhh: froyo.user.conf is your stock conf, that weird echo 2 thing and all :) | 12:26 |
| jonpry | you might want to do a pd 0x03600000 0x2000 | 12:26 |
| jonpry | just to make sure ramconsole is even there | 12:26 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, wtf | 12:26 |
| rpierce99 | i'm not running the new kernel though, just the one that was in the pack | 12:26 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry, how many 0's? | 12:26 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, yea when i did that it flickered | 12:27 |
| arrrghhh | maybe i'm mounting something lol | 12:27 |
| arrrghhh | losing my game here | 12:27 |
| arrrghhh | haretconsole kinda pooped when i did that last command jonpry hence the reason i ask about the 0's | 12:28 |
| jonpry | i think it is 5 after 36 | 12:29 |
| jonpry | and for pd do 3 after 2, and for pwf 4 after 2 | 12:31 |
| * arrrghhh is confused | 12:31 | |
| arrrghhh | why is there a different # of 0's for the pd command than the pf one? | 12:31 |
| jonpry | ramconsole is 0x20000 big, but that will just spam your console if your just looking for presence of it | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 12:32 |
| jonpry | you can use the bigger number for both | 12:32 |
| jonpry | pwf dmesg.txt 0x03600000 0x20000 | 12:32 |
| jonpry | pd 0x03600000 0x20000 | 12:32 |
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| arrrghhh | rpierce99, you said you did get a failed wake? | 12:37 |
| rpierce99 | on the new kernel, without the ril stuff | 12:37 |
| arrrghhh | did you see anything in the logs? | 12:37 |
| arrrghhh | stupid xchat, doesn't let me misspell the | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | the | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | fawk | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | teh | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | WIN | 12:38 |
| rpierce99 | wasn't at my computer, i can see if they go back that far but I'm not sure if I'd know which one failed | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, i know what you mean. | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | anything running in the bg hard that you know of? | 12:38 |
| jonpry | arrrghhh, you got nothing on the ramconsole? | 12:39 |
| arrrghhh | trying again | 12:39 |
| rpierce99 | no it's a fresh data.img, after the problems i had yesterday, i haven't even reinstalled my apps on this one | 12:39 |
| rpierce99 | probably would have heard birds chirping, had their been birds | 12:39 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry, haret keeps terminating when i pd that section | 12:40 |
| jonpry | sounds about right. i think you need to unlock smi2 somehow | 12:40 |
| jonpry | what good is ramconsole if it can't be read in winmo :p | 12:41 |
| jonpry | have to mention that to wistilt2 | 12:41 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:42 |
| arrrghhh | i've mentioned to him several times about the historical logs | 12:42 |
| arrrghhh | whatever he did (said he disabled klog?) knocked out the historical logs | 12:42 |
| arrrghhh | we used to get great compressed historical logs of reboots to winmo | 12:42 |
| arrrghhh | you could boot 5 times and get a reboot every time, and have a log of every one. | 12:42 |
| rpierce99 | not that they ever proved useful | 12:42 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, helped me | 12:43 |
| arrrghhh | determine it was a bad SD card | 12:43 |
| arrrghhh | or badly-behaving | 12:43 |
| arrrghhh | for android lol | 12:43 |
| odz | wheres logs stored? | 12:43 |
| arrrghhh | it gives you a window into why the reboot was occurring | 12:43 |
| arrrghhh | odz, they're not anymore that's the point | 12:43 |
| arrrghhh | on autobuild they should be | 12:43 |
| arrrghhh | but not on wistilt2's kernels. | 12:44 |
| odz | oh last night the new kernel refused to sleep | 12:44 |
| arrrghhh | GPS on? | 12:44 |
| odz | nope | 12:44 |
| arrrghhh | way to post in the thread too | 12:44 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 12:44 |
| arrrghhh | no body had a problem sleeping AFAIK | 12:44 |
| arrrghhh | just blinking green eh? | 12:44 |
| arrrghhh | never went solid? | 12:44 |
| odz | it went to sleep fine the first hour but it woke up than blinking green until i rebooted it | 12:45 |
| phh | enabled bluetooth or what ? :D | 12:45 |
| arrrghhh | did you wake it up and put it back to sleep? | 12:45 |
| odz | ya i tried like 20 times | 12:45 |
| arrrghhh | did you let it sleep? | 12:45 |
| odz | it just kept blinking | 12:45 |
| arrrghhh | sometimes it gets in this 30s cycle | 12:45 |
| arrrghhh | where it takes 30s for it to go solid green | 12:45 |
| odz | well i waited 5mins | 12:46 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:46 |
| arrrghhh | ok that's not right. | 12:46 |
| arrrghhh | you're sure all that crap was disabled? what build? | 12:46 |
| arrrghhh | gps, netloc etc | 12:46 |
| arrrghhh | killed any apps running | 12:46 |
| odz | your gb build | 12:46 |
| odz | yep | 12:46 |
| arrrghhh | you don't have something silly like juice defender | 12:46 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 12:46 |
| odz | i just did alittle txting and looked around in market | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | i dunno | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | i reboot to winmo like it's going out of style at the moment | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | so i'm not sure. | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | logs pls | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 12:47 |
| odz | lol | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | post in the thread too so i can keep track. | 12:47 |
| odz | kk | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | thx | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | might just blame it on gb too | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | yep, that's what i'm going with at the moment. | 12:48 |
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| odz | bwt if your looking for a easy way to cause a freeze just install winamp and try going to "home"....if you want it to reboot install skype and call echo test and it reboots as soon as the call is finished | 12:51 |
| arrrghhh | odz, third party apps i don't care about | 12:51 |
| arrrghhh | we can't support every single third party app at this stage. | 12:52 |
| odz | that sucks | 12:52 |
| arrrghhh | native android phones don't always support every third party app. | 12:52 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:52 |
| arrrghhh | seriously? | 12:52 |
| arrrghhh | we have bugs inherent in the system | 12:52 |
| arrrghhh | and you're worried about fixing skype | 12:52 |
| odz | eh its not just skype its alot of apps | 12:53 |
| odz | seems like if its a app worth using it crashs | 12:53 |
| arrrghhh | don't care about 3rd party apps | 12:53 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:53 |
| arrrghhh | you are ridiculous odz | 12:54 |
| arrrghhh | i use a few apps, don't really have problems with them | 12:54 |
| arrrghhh | i don't give a fawk about angry birdz or foursquare or talking tom or any of these other apps for 6 year olds | 12:55 |
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| arrrghhh | alright jonpry, it's settled. | 13:29 |
| arrrghhh | i need a new phone and a new laptop. | 13:29 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps a new house, but we can work that one out in time. | 13:29 |
| siraloz | flashed android on rhod400 nand. the battery drained out. now, when I charge it, the phone collects some juice, tries to boot but then loses its juice since it doesn't charge while booting, and therefore i am in some sort of boot-of-death loop. tried letting it sit for 30 mins charger plugged. no avail. appreciate your advice. | 13:29 |
| arrrghhh | siraloz, youi MassStash'd it | 13:30 |
| arrrghhh | you* | 13:30 |
| siraloz | yeap. | 13:30 |
| arrrghhh | he fixed it with a new battery | 13:31 |
| arrrghhh | or an external charger | 13:32 |
| siraloz | thought some of you experts here would have some advice. i will have access to another tp2 later tonight to use another batter to task 29 it. until then, i am curious if there's another way | 13:32 |
| arrrghhh | another phone | 13:32 |
| arrrghhh | i heard if you pull the battery | 13:32 |
| arrrghhh | plug in the phone | 13:32 |
| arrrghhh | then put the battery into it | 13:32 |
| arrrghhh | it'll work | 13:32 |
| arrrghhh | i dunno tho | 13:32 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry, you there? | 13:32 |
| arrrghhh | i thought you had some advice on this subject. | 13:32 |
| siraloz | i see, let me try. thanks. | 13:32 |
| arrrghhh | MassStash claimed he tried every variation. | 13:32 |
| siraloz | no go! | 13:40 |
| siraloz | anyway, lemme not distract you guys from the bigger picture that ya'll are trying to create for rhods. | 13:42 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 13:42 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know how others fixed it | 13:43 |
| arrrghhh | but in theory there are ways to fix it. | 13:43 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know. | 13:43 |
| arrrghhh | it just keeps booting on you? | 13:43 |
| arrrghhh | can you not force it into bootloader mode with the battery out? | 13:43 |
| siraloz | how to force? | 13:45 |
| arrrghhh | power vol down reset? | 13:45 |
| arrrghhh | you haven't put it in bootloader mode before? | 13:45 |
| arrrghhh | probably shouldn't be flashing NAND then :P | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | this isn't for the faint of heart | 13:46 |
| siraloz | i know power + vol down, but never tried w;o batt | 13:46 |
| siraloz | w;0 = w/o | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | i haven't either | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | does it even boot w/o batt? | 13:47 |
| siraloz | nope | 13:47 |
| siraloz | if i could get to the bootloader, i would be all set | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | it boots for a few sec | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | w/batt | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | rigth? | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | right | 13:47 |
| siraloz | yeap | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | so you should be able to force bootloader | 13:48 |
| arrrghhh | no? | 13:48 |
| arrrghhh | you should also be able to charge in bootloader i would think, maybe not | 13:48 |
| arrrghhh | you won't have enough juice to flash, i'll tell you that much. | 13:48 |
| siraloz | bootloader starts with battery in but then since there's very little juice, bootloader craps out | 13:48 |
| siraloz | without the battery in, i am not sure how to get to the bootloader | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | it doesn't boot at all without batt? | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | i've never tried. | 13:49 |
| siraloz | no unfortunatrely | 13:51 |
| arrrghhh | hum | 13:51 |
| siraloz | as soon as the battery is out, lead goes out | 13:52 |
| siraloz | led* | 13:52 |
| arrrghhh | well, yet another individual that lets us learn | 14:02 |
| arrrghhh | don't discharge your battery in NAND | 14:02 |
| siraloz | yeap.. that's the MassStash Principle... Nandoid 101. | 14:03 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:03 |
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| arrrghhh | siraloz, did you try nate's suggestion? | 14:32 |
| arrrghhh | "OK, you have to yank the battery when it runs out of juice, then put the battery back in, then plug in the charger. If you just plug it in without pulling the battery, it will continue to try to start and do what you are talking about. My phone dies on me just about every day thanks to the broken USB pins, and I never have an issue charging it as long as I yank the battery first, then charge it. It will vibrate a bit, but the s | 14:32 |
| arrrghhh | creen should not come on. It will charge, then after about 5 minutes, I pull the battery again, put it back in, and turn it on." | 14:32 |
| arrrghhh | oops, didn't realize it would be that much of a paste :/ | 14:32 |
| arrrghhh | siraloz, lol manekineko has a suggestion as well. | 14:36 |
| arrrghhh | you're not going to like it tho | 14:36 |
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| jonpry | hey arrrghhh | 14:55 |
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| jonpry | hey arrrghhh_ | 14:56 |
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| arrrghhh | yo | 14:56 |
| arrrghhh | what's shakin jonpry | 14:56 |
| jonpry | nothing, you asked if i was around | 14:57 |
| jonpry | you get ramconsole? | 14:57 |
| arrrghhh | yea, siraloz bricked his phone ala MassStash | 14:57 |
| arrrghhh | no, never did. | 14:57 |
| arrrghhh | booted back and it's working fine tho | 14:57 |
| arrrghhh | didn't change a thing. | 14:57 |
| jonpry | can you get this reboot thing to happen with the kernel i uploaded some days ago? | 14:58 |
| arrrghhh | no | 14:58 |
| arrrghhh | seems random | 14:58 |
| arrrghhh | fits of reboots | 14:58 |
| arrrghhh | SD card just being finnicky i guess, dunno. | 14:58 |
| arrrghhh | frustrating. | 14:58 |
| jonpry | need ramconsole :p | 14:59 |
| jonpry | and put no_console_suspend=1 in startup.txt | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | kept freezing it | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | when i pulled ramconsole manually | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | i'll add that line | 15:00 |
| jonpry | i think you can set ramconsole address from command line | 15:00 |
| jonpry | but its hard without knowing if wistilt did something weird like put framebufffer there | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | he was moving stuffs | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | and until he commits, no one really knows what he's doing. usually if you ask him outright he'll tell you, i'm just not knowledgeable to know what he's talking about usually :P | 15:02 |
| arrrghhh | moving fb into smi | 15:02 |
| arrrghhh | some such | 15:02 |
| jonpry | playing with fire | 15:03 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:03 |
| arrrghhh | everyone says it's faster than ebi | 15:03 |
| arrrghhh | but i didn't really notice a difference | 15:03 |
| jonpry | need something like fps2d that will get non vsync limited numbers | 15:03 |
| arrrghhh | numbers didn't change on that app | 15:04 |
| * arrrghhh checked | 15:04 | |
| jonpry | yeah cause its 30 either way | 15:05 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 15:05 |
| arrrghhh | still can't avg higher than 30 | 15:05 |
| arrrghhh | unless you turn off the screen lol | 15:05 |
| jonpry | i have an app that gets far less than 30, but it doesn't have a meter | 15:05 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 15:06 |
| arrrghhh | 2d or 3d | 15:06 |
| jonpry | 2d | 15:06 |
| arrrghhh | 3d hardly ever breaks 20fps | 15:06 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 15:06 |
| jonpry | i have this weird counter thing too. i have it fps independent. suppose it would be easy to undo though | 15:07 |
| jonpry | do you have an smi and non smi kernel to compare? | 15:07 |
| arrrghhh | well i presume wistilt2's kernel is fb in smi | 15:08 |
| arrrghhh | and autobuild newest is fb in ebi | 15:08 |
| arrrghhh | he hasn't committed that change | 15:08 |
| arrrghhh | along with 15,000 other changes lol | 15:08 |
| siraloz | s&*T damn farrrkkkk.... hehe ............ brrrrrppppppppppppp crash ........... | 15:10 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry, you want linkys? heh | 15:11 |
| arrrghhh | siraloz, you followed all of those directions? | 15:11 |
| arrrghhh | i swear one combo works lol | 15:11 |
| arrrghhh | i haven't done it with this phone | 15:11 |
| siraloz | to the T brah | 15:11 |
| arrrghhh | but i've done it with past phones | 15:11 |
| siraloz | thanks... | 15:11 |
| jonpry | i will leave this test to someone else, but i will make an apk to stress the 2d | 15:12 |
| arrrghhh | i guess those weren't booting android... | 15:12 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry, o yea? | 15:12 |
| siraloz | i am hoping when i replace the battery with one from another tp2, the damn thing will boot | 15:13 |
| siraloz | can't do that until tonight tho. | 15:13 |
| arrrghhh | well a second device will work | 15:13 |
| siraloz | never wanted see the bootloader screen so badly before... lol | 15:16 |
| siraloz | to add insult to the injury, i can't access the desktop folder of my desktop from my laptop anymore... | 15:18 |
| siraloz | i must resist using any other piece of technical equipment today, lest it follow the same fate | 15:19 |
| jonpry | arrrghhh, http://prymfg.com/kernel/HelloAndroid.apk | 15:20 |
| jonpry | got to hit the digital tab, then hit "animate" and it will just count the number of frames drawn since button press | 15:20 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry, ok? | 15:23 |
| arrrghhh | i saw it count up to 100 (i think) and stop | 15:24 |
| jonpry | mine doesn't stop | 15:24 |
| arrrghhh | oh i must've hit it again | 15:24 |
| arrrghhh | it's going endlessly now, yes. | 15:24 |
| jonpry | so you should be able to calculate the rate by starting a stop watch at some number | 15:25 |
| jonpry | hopefully it is decently below 30. i can slow it down if its too fast | 15:25 |
| arrrghhh | that sounds... inaccurate | 15:25 |
| jonpry | not if you count long enough | 15:25 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:25 |
| jonpry | like start the watch at 100, and stop it at 1000 | 15:26 |
| jonpry | should be able to get within 1% or something | 15:26 |
| arrrghhh | alright | 15:26 |
| jonpry | nm, i made a new one that calcs the fps for you :p | 15:28 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:28 |
| arrrghhh | that... would be best :D | 15:28 |
| jonpry | uploaded. but be sure not to hit animate twice or it botches it | 15:29 |
| arrrghhh | hehe | 15:29 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 15:29 |
| jonpry | i'm getting 13.0 fps in emulator | 15:29 |
| arrrghhh | that kinda sucks | 15:31 |
| arrrghhh | on your kernel? | 15:31 |
| jonpry | no emulator | 15:31 |
| arrrghhh | oh oh | 15:31 |
| arrrghhh | sdk | 15:31 |
| arrrghhh | right | 15:31 |
| jonpry | but in practice tp2 without jit is about same as emu with jit | 15:31 |
| arrrghhh | lol i'm getting right about 13 as well | 15:33 |
| arrrghhh | damnit | 15:33 |
| arrrghhh | it rotated and killed it | 15:33 |
| jonpry | yeah gotta watch out for that | 15:33 |
| arrrghhh | heh tryin again | 15:33 |
| jonpry | are you oc'd? | 15:33 |
| arrrghhh | slowly pulling up to 13 | 15:33 |
| arrrghhh | nope | 15:33 |
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| arrrghhh | no OC statement so acpu is set to 528.00 even | 15:33 |
| jonpry | but you have wizzards smi fb? | 15:34 |
| arrrghhh | in theory | 15:34 |
| arrrghhh | i am running his newest kernel | 15:34 |
| jonpry | mine is still booting | 15:34 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 15:36 |
| arrrghhh | turning off the screen doesn't skew the results | 15:36 |
| arrrghhh | like fps2d does | 15:36 |
| jonpry | urgh, can't find usb | 15:36 |
| jonpry | yeah i'm wondering what precisely it is testing | 15:37 |
| arrrghhh | lol no clue | 15:37 |
| arrrghhh | this is less than half | 15:37 |
| arrrghhh | what fps2d was reporting | 15:37 |
| jonpry | like its doing an extraordinary amount of 2d alpha blended bit blits | 15:38 |
| jonpry | but to what i am not sure. it might be the back buffer, which is still in ram | 15:38 |
| arrrghhh | i haven't gotten it to break 13 | 15:38 |
| arrrghhh | 12.8 is the highest rounded up # i've seen | 15:38 |
| arrrghhh | aw | 15:40 |
| arrrghhh | failed wake | 15:40 |
| arrrghhh | :/ | 15:40 |
| jonpry | i'm having system_server issue | 15:41 |
| jonpry | still no measurements :( | 15:41 |
| arrrghhh | really? | 15:43 |
| arrrghhh | are you on some ancient rootfs? lol | 15:43 |
| jonpry | yeah | 15:43 |
| jonpry | i think mine is at 12.7 | 15:44 |
| arrrghhh | so... same | 15:44 |
| jonpry | yeah | 15:44 |
| arrrghhh | snake oil! | 15:44 |
| jonpry | need to turn off double buffering | 15:46 |
| jonpry | arrrghhh, are the neopeek numbers different on smi and not? | 15:51 |
| arrrghhh | dunno tbh | 15:51 |
| arrrghhh | haven't used a neopeek build in forver | 15:52 |
| arrrghhh | hyc turned FRX05 into a neopeek build if you will | 15:52 |
| jonpry | hmm, isn't that just a benchmark app? | 15:52 |
| arrrghhh | wait what? | 15:52 |
| arrrghhh | you mean neocore | 15:53 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 15:53 |
| jonpry | yeah | 15:53 |
| arrrghhh | neocore numbers are same | 15:53 |
| arrrghhh | no difference. | 15:53 |
| arrrghhh | they're not as consistent as fps2d | 15:53 |
| jonpry | i'm stumped | 15:54 |
| jonpry | arrrghhh, it goes way faster if you switch tabs while its running | 15:55 |
| jonpry | i got it up to 30 | 15:55 |
| jonpry | or 60 | 15:55 |
| jonpry | i think it would hit 120 with some tweaking | 15:58 |
| hyc | no real performance difference using dedicated partitions | 16:06 |
| hyc | it just makes corruption of data have a smaller impact | 16:07 |
| hyc | usually now when I boot, fsck says my system partition is clean | 16:07 |
| jonpry | what fs are you using? | 16:07 |
| hyc | ext2 | 16:07 |
| jonpry | i think ntfs is actually better than ext2, but it doesn't support symlinks | 16:08 |
| hyc | yeah that's a bit annoying. but ntfs support on linux is dog slow. | 16:09 |
| jonpry | ext2 chunk size is way too small for flash cards | 16:10 |
| hyc | chunks? shouldn't matter too much since writes are done in pages. 4KB | 16:15 |
| jonpry | thats the problem though | 16:15 |
| jonpry | need much bigger writes | 16:15 |
| jonpry | i benched an sd card with raw writes. and got ~250KiB at 4kb | 16:16 |
| jonpry | several megabytes at 128KiB though | 16:16 |
| hyc | you can bench using dd and get similar results, on any storage device | 16:17 |
| hyc | dd bs=1024k | 16:17 |
| hyc | regardless of the filesystem page size... | 16:18 |
| hyc | you only see the improvement because the driver is able to issue multiple contiguous writes in a smaller number of requests | 16:18 |
| jonpry | sounds like a good idea to me | 16:19 |
| hyc | forcing the filesystem to use larger chunks would just cause a lot of fragmentation, wasted space | 16:19 |
| hyc | well, if the kernel is in laptop mode, and you have the writeback parameters set to a long delay, you'll get a similar effect | 16:20 |
| hyc | I have my systems with SSDs set to a 60 second delay on writeback | 16:20 |
| jonpry | larger chunks = less fragmentation, but yes more wasted space | 16:20 |
| hyc | the problem is apps that have hard-coded fsync calls in them, because they think they know better than you how often their data should be flushed to disk | 16:21 |
| hyc | aside from those poorly behaved apps, writes accumulate in the FS cache and then go out in big chunks. | 16:24 |
| jonpry | i think the only real options are nilfs2 or btrfs | 16:26 |
| arrrghhh | lol go ext4 go | 16:26 |
| hyc | ext4, bleah | 16:26 |
| arrrghhh | yea it would probably roast an SD | 16:27 |
| hyc | neither nilfs2 nor btrfs have turned in any impressive benchmark results yet | 16:27 |
| hyc | reiserfs, JFS, and XFS still come out better most of the time | 16:27 |
| hyc | http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=15771 | 16:27 |
| jonpry | ssd and sd are not quite the same though | 16:29 |
| arrrghhh | true | 16:29 |
| hyc | sure, but they both suffer from poor write throughput if you treat them wrong | 16:31 |
| jonpry | its doesn't look like ext2 is the winner | 16:31 |
| hyc | nope. it's just the most accessible, in terms of tool support | 16:32 |
| jonpry | i can add btrfs to the kernel | 16:33 |
| hyc | you can get ext2 tools for windows even. won't be seeing btrfs on windows any time soon... | 16:33 |
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| stinebd | any feedback on the new in-call ui? | 17:07 |
| hyc | new? in gingerbread? | 17:10 |
| hyc | I'm still running froyo | 17:10 |
| stinebd | yes ginger | 17:10 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, people lovin the new ginger | 17:11 |
| arrrghhh | mankineko commented about the hold button because cdma can't put people on hold? no clue what he was rambling about. | 17:12 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i should try to put someone on hold. i just mute 'em. | 17:12 |
| hyc | yeah, that seemd pretty far in left field | 17:12 |
| stinebd | cdma should be able to hold | 17:12 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:12 |
| arrrghhh | that's what i thought. | 17:12 |
| hyc | Hold is not tech dependent :P | 17:12 |
| stinebd | there's actually logic in the code to decide which buttons to show up there | 17:12 |
| stinebd | gsm shows a couple more buttons | 17:12 |
| stinebd | optionally | 17:13 |
| stinebd | ie for conference calling | 17:13 |
| rpierce99 | From http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4515: CDMA networks do not offer the ability to place a call on hold. | 17:13 |
| stinebd | so it's definitely upstream if there's anything wrong with those buttons | 17:13 |
| stinebd | rpierce99: whether the network can, it doesn't really matter. you just mute the earpiece and mic | 17:14 |
| hyc | hmmmmmmm. I'm almost tempted to go resurrect one of my old StarTacs to check it again. mebbe it only had Mute. | 17:14 |
| rpierce99 | but if the hold button sends some kind of hold command to RIL and it doesn't work on CDMA, that explains why it doesn't work now, not saying it couldn't work | 17:14 |
| stinebd | that said, android probably thinks the phone is gsm anyway | 17:14 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:15 |
| stinebd | which the new ril will address | 17:15 |
| arrrghhh | blam | 17:15 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: if you see any bugs to that effect, they should be assigned to the ril repository, not the phone app | 17:15 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 17:16 |
| arrrghhh | it works | 17:16 |
| arrrghhh | it's flash basically | 17:16 |
| arrrghhh | or acts as flash basically... | 17:17 |
| stinebd | flash? | 17:17 |
| stinebd | so we can use hulu now? | 17:17 |
| arrrghhh | damnit jim | 17:17 |
| arrrghhh | the flash button on your landline? | 17:17 |
| stinebd | my what? | 17:17 |
| arrrghhh | y'know, that thing people used to have? | 17:17 |
| rpierce99 | who the hell has a landline | 17:17 |
| arrrghhh | i don't | 17:17 |
| stinebd | whose landline has buttons on it? | 17:17 |
| rpierce99 | and whose landline has a flash button | 17:17 |
| stinebd | landlines are 4 copper wires | 17:17 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:17 |
| arrrghhh | damni you all | 17:17 |
| arrrghhh | damn* | 17:18 |
| hyc | business phones had flash buttons | 17:18 |
| hyc | if they were on a local PBX | 17:18 |
| arrrghhh | i get a dial tone | 17:18 |
| arrrghhh | and the other caller probably just hears dead air | 17:18 |
| stinebd | dial tone on a cell? | 17:18 |
| hyc | most home phones wouldn't have a flash button | 17:18 |
| arrrghhh | i doubt there's jazzy music | 17:18 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, i know it's pretty entertaining. | 17:18 |
| stinebd | good ol cdma | 17:18 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, stfu mine did | 17:18 |
| arrrghhh | @ my parents house | 17:19 |
| arrrghhh | where cell phones don't function | 17:19 |
| stinebd | what does hitting it again do? | 17:19 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, flips back to the first call | 17:19 |
| stinebd | cool | 17:19 |
| stinebd | so it works just fine | 17:19 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 17:19 |
| arrrghhh | the dialtone is pretty entertaining | 17:19 |
| rpierce99 | i wouldn't call it a Hold though | 17:20 |
| stinebd | ok arrrghhh i'm gonna call you | 17:20 |
| stinebd | and you put me on "hold" | 17:20 |
| arrrghhh | our routers do that, there's a tiny wav file that generates dial tone | 17:20 |
| stinebd | and we'll see what i hear | 17:20 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, if you insist | 17:20 |
| arrrghhh | i have a second cell phone | 17:20 |
| stinebd | 867-5309? | 17:20 |
| arrrghhh | you know it | 17:20 |
| arrrghhh | any area code | 17:20 |
| stinebd | dude your phone is terrible | 17:22 |
| stinebd | you sound like an old asian woman | 17:22 |
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| arrrghhh | just dead air | 17:22 |
| arrrghhh | speakerphone really didn't want to disable too, weird. | 17:22 |
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| Total_Meltdown_ | Hey, when you boot XDAndroid, is Windows Mobile still running in the background? | 17:25 |
| hyc | yeah, it's in the background spying on everything you do and reporting back to Microsoft HQ | 17:25 |
| Total_Meltdown_ | lol | 17:26 |
| hyc | no, Android takes complete control | 17:27 |
| Total_Meltdown_ | Awesome | 17:28 |
| arrrghhh | winmo is booted out of memory | 17:28 |
| hyc | which always made me wonder, how a lowly user app can completely override the currently running OS/kernel | 17:28 |
| hyc | talk about security holes... | 17:28 |
| Total_Meltdown_ | I dunno, calling WinMo an OS is putting it in the same class as other mobile platforms. That's pretty generous. | 17:29 |
| hyc | heh | 17:29 |
| arrrghhh | hyc, oh you mean haret? heh | 17:29 |
| hyc | yeah, haret | 17:35 |
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| stinebd | hahaha | 21:18 |
| stinebd | watching a hockey game, someone just scored a hat trick | 21:18 |
| stinebd | and some clown in the stands threw a shoe down on the ice | 21:18 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:21 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 21:22 |
| xdandroid | New XDAndroid Releases bug 112 filed... | 21:22 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=112 minor, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, carrier info not displaying correctly | 21:22 |
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| xdandroid | arrrghhh changed the Status on bug 112 from NEW to RESOLVED WONTFIX. | 21:26 |
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| jonpry | stinebd, http://pastebin.com/r2v3MnA9 | 21:32 |
| jonpry | no work in init. crashes why? | 21:32 |
| TheDeadCPU | xdandroid, seen CazH | 21:35 |
| xdandroid | TheDeadCPU: CazH was last seen in #xdandroid 23 weeks, 2 days, 2 hours, 50 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: <CazH> :( | 21:35 |
| TheDeadCPU | xdandroid, seen cazh | 21:35 |
| xdandroid | TheDeadCPU: cazh was last seen in #xdandroid 23 weeks, 2 days, 2 hours, 50 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <CazH> :( | 21:35 |
| TheDeadCPU | xdandroid, seen cazh_ | 21:35 |
| xdandroid | TheDeadCPU: cazh_ was last seen in #xdandroid 29 weeks, 2 days, 13 hours, 9 minutes, and 32 seconds ago: <cazh_> TheDeadCPU: I'm really easy :P | 21:35 |
| TheDeadCPU | Hmmm | 21:36 |
| stinebd | jonpry: bad syntax | 21:36 |
| stinebd | DEV=$(cat /sys/class/msm_camera/control0/dev | sed -e "s/:/ /g") | 21:37 |
| stinebd | mknod blahblah c $DEV | 21:37 |
| jonpry | ah the $ lol | 21:37 |
| stinebd | no spaces around the = too | 21:37 |
| stinebd | and $() invokes a subshell to evalute the result of the cat | sed | 21:38 |
| jonpry | your a hero stinebd | 21:38 |
| jonpry | now submit that to your rootfs :p | 21:38 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:38 |
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| fishingmedic | arrrghhh what drivers do I need for droid explorer to set up adb | 22:05 |
| arrrghhh | droid explorer normally includes them | 22:05 |
| arrrghhh | but i had a problem on that XP box of yours and went with the sledge | 22:06 |
| arrrghhh | pda.net | 22:06 |
| fishingmedic | yeah it keeps erroring out and not letting me finish the setup, trying on my vista lappy | 22:06 |
| jonpry | the vid/pid is wrong | 22:06 |
| arrrghhh | fishingmedic, did you see that how-to adb i referenced yesterday? | 22:07 |
| fishingmedic | no, did you post it on xda or ppcg? | 22:07 |
| arrrghhh | xda | 22:07 |
| fishingmedic | k, lemme check it out, thanks | 22:08 |
| arrrghhh | np | 22:08 |
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| ml10121994 | when comes android 2.3 | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | it has landed already | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | what device do you have | 23:27 |
| ml10121994 | htc touch diamond 2 | 23:27 |
| ml10121994 | with windows mobile 6.5 | 23:28 |
| arrrghhh | yes, that's what comes with it :P | 23:28 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951817 | 23:28 |
| arrrghhh | ^^ 2.3 bundle | 23:28 |
| arrrghhh | follow the directions | 23:28 |
| ml10121994 | thanks wait a minuite i look | 23:28 |
| * arrrghhh waits... | 23:28 | |
| ml10121994 | okay and waths with the other versions of android | 23:29 |
| arrrghhh | there's other builds | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | they all use the same kernel | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | so what do you mean | 23:30 |
| ml10121994 | i mean android 3.0 | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | 3.0 | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | that's honeycomb | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | for tablets? | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | not for phones | 23:30 |
| ml10121994 | why not ẞ | 23:31 |
| arrrghhh | what part of 'for tablets' doesn't make sense | 23:31 |
| ml10121994 | when do you thinks come android 3.0 | 23:31 |
| ml10121994 | im sorry but im german and my english is not so good | 23:32 |
| ml10121994 | And what do i have to do when i want android 2.3 | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | 2.3 thread i sent you | 23:33 |
| ml10121994 | can i also for example play games from SD Card | 23:35 |
| arrrghhh | uhm everything is running off of the SD | 23:35 |
| arrrghhh | games... are hit or miss. our graphics aren't so great compared to new android devices. | 23:35 |
| ml10121994 | ok good to konw because before i had downloaded android 2.2.2 fom xdandroid and it doesnt find my programms on my sdcard | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | format it | 23:38 |
| arrrghhh | with the HP tool if you're using windows | 23:38 |
| arrrghhh | i have a link to that program in the thread i linked you to earlier. | 23:38 |
| arrrghhh | you can backup everything on the card | 23:39 |
| arrrghhh | format | 23:39 |
| arrrghhh | and put everything back | 23:39 |
| arrrghhh | or start clean | 23:39 |
| arrrghhh | doesn't matter | 23:39 |
| ml10121994 | must i download the bundle or the ext2 | 23:39 |
| arrrghhh | well | 23:39 |
| arrrghhh | what do you think | 23:39 |
| ml10121994 | the bundle | 23:40 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 23:40 |
| ml10121994 | ok thanks very much | 23:40 |
| arrrghhh | ext2 is the standalone system image | 23:40 |
| arrrghhh | (for those who want to update manually | 23:40 |
| arrrghhh | ) | 23:40 |
| ml10121994 | what means manually | 23:42 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 23:42 |
| arrrghhh | the bundle has all the updates included | 23:42 |
| arrrghhh | the pieces are if you want to update the pieces | 23:42 |
| arrrghhh | by hand | 23:42 |
| ml10121994 | ok thank you for these informations bey | 23:43 |
| arrrghhh | you're just throwing this all in google translate aren't you | 23:43 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:43 |
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| Sound_fx | Hello, I have a Sprint Touch Pro 2, and I can't seem to get to an initial boot on either reference or BLAZN android. I only get to a never ending terminal screen. Does anyone have a suggestion of what I could do differently? | 23:45 |
| arrrghhh | Sound_fx, are you putting everything at the root of your SD? | 23:45 |
| arrrghhh | haret.exe, rootfs.img, system.ext2, zImage, modules-xxx.tar.gz, etc? | 23:45 |
| Sound_fx | Well, I unzipped the file, and those files are in the /andboot directory | 23:46 |
| arrrghhh | if you're using something that's not XDAndroid | 23:46 |
| ml10121994 | no i ve written this all alone | 23:46 |
| arrrghhh | i can't support it | 23:46 |
| ml10121994 | you must think my mark in english is 4- | 23:47 |
| arrrghhh | ml10121994, better than my german | 23:47 |
| arrrghhh | which is about a 0 | 23:47 |
| arrrghhh | ;) | 23:47 |
| Sound_fx | Oh, ok. I found this through the Project Android site | 23:47 |
| ml10121994 | im in the 10 grade | 23:47 |
| arrrghhh | Sound_fx, yea... that was reef's site | 23:48 |
| arrrghhh | tiad8 just links to it | 23:48 |
| arrrghhh | or are you using the ancient BLAZN build from sept 28th 2010? | 23:48 |
| ml10121994 | does the camera works on gingerbread | 23:48 |
| arrrghhh | ml10121994, yes... it's in the thread title. | 23:48 |
| ml10121994 | oh yes stupid question from me | 23:49 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 23:49 |
| Sound_fx | They have 2 builds, one old BLAZN build, and one reference build from Jan 23rd | 23:49 |
| ml10121994 | how old are you | 23:49 |
| arrrghhh | Sound_fx, both of those are old | 23:49 |
| arrrghhh | ml10121994, old | 23:50 |
| ml10121994 | and your german is so bad | 23:50 |
| Sound_fx | Ok, I'm looking at the xdandroid.com site, and I'll read that first | 23:50 |
| arrrghhh | Sound_fx, you prefer froyo or gingerbread? | 23:50 |
| arrrghhh | i'll link you to one of my builds | 23:50 |
| arrrghhh | which i can help you with :D | 23:50 |
| Sound_fx | Ok, cool | 23:50 |
| Sound_fx | I have a sprint touch pro 2 | 23:50 |
| arrrghhh | which you want | 23:50 |
| arrrghhh | froyo | 23:51 |
| arrrghhh | gingerbread | 23:51 |
| arrrghhh | that's a RHOD400 for the record. | 23:51 |
| ml10121994 | ok bye now | 23:51 |
| arrrghhh | ml10121994, bye | 23:51 |
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| Sound_fx | I suppose gingerbread, I haven't used an Android device yet | 23:51 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 23:52 |
| arrrghhh | if you haven't used it before | 23:52 |
| arrrghhh | i'd probably recommend froyo | 23:52 |
| arrrghhh | just because gingerbread is kinda unstable | 23:52 |
| Sound_fx | Oh, ok | 23:52 |
| arrrghhh | lots of stuff doesn't work | 23:52 |
| Sound_fx | Gotcha | 23:52 |
| Sound_fx | I'll go with Froyo then | 23:52 |
| arrrghhh | now mind you there's still a lot of stuff broken in froyo :P | 23:52 |
| arrrghhh | just not as much | 23:52 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951962 | 23:52 |
| arrrghhh | Froyo ^^ | 23:52 |
| arrrghhh | depending on free space on your SD | 23:53 |
| arrrghhh | you can run as many builds as you want | 23:53 |
| arrrghhh | i have 5 builds on mah card. testing this&that | 23:53 |
| Sound_fx | Ok, downloading this build | 23:53 |
| Sound_fx | Ah, neat | 23:53 |
| arrrghhh | folllow the steps | 23:54 |
| Sound_fx | Do you pick which one you want with haret? | 23:54 |
| arrrghhh | remember rhod400 too ;) | 23:54 |
| Sound_fx | Ok | 23:54 |
| arrrghhh | Sound_fx, yup. i have haret in each folder | 23:54 |
| arrrghhh | and just go to the folder i want, hit haret | 23:54 |
| Sound_fx | Ah, ok, that's cool. | 23:54 |
| Sound_fx | 4 mins till it finishes downloading, and I'm going to format my sd card clean, just in case again | 23:54 |
| arrrghhh | hp tool | 23:55 |
| arrrghhh | if you're using windows | 23:55 |
| arrrghhh | there's a link in the first post there ;) | 23:55 |
| Sound_fx | Ah, a different post was recommending this tool from the SD website | 23:57 |
| Sound_fx | Didn't use the windows one. :) | 23:57 |
| arrrghhh | which one? | 23:58 |
| arrrghhh | eh i guess as long as it's not the windows one lol | 23:58 |
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