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| Nautis | no gbread with cam yet eh? | 00:47 |
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| arrrghhh | it works | 00:47 |
| arrrghhh | but other things break horribly | 00:47 |
| arrrghhh | media codecs | 00:47 |
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| zooster | hi guys | 09:58 |
| zooster | thank you for new system.ext2 | 09:58 |
| zooster | just a quick question: is new frx05 signed? Or can we still use old data.img? | 09:59 |
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| jchutch2 | Wow...I only see one person in here I know. | 10:46 |
| jchutch2 | F22, how are ya? | 10:46 |
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| jchutch2 | ? | 10:50 |
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| arrrghhh | stinebd: you there? | 16:04 |
| arrrghhh | emwe: rhod400 is going to be on its way soon. Kraln is donating it, he just wants $16 for the shipping/paypal fees. | 16:04 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: geez. coolio! | 16:05 |
| arrrghhh | not sure if stine has monies in the warchest or not. | 16:05 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: np. if stine says yes, warchest, otherwise i can paypal. just don't really use paypal actively. don't even have an bank account attached to it. | 16:05 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 16:06 |
| emwe | but i think there's some bucks in that area around there. | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | 15 euros is a little more than $16 if i'm not mistaken. | 16:06 |
| emwe | oh right ;) | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | well i just popped in to fill you in on that. would you mind asking stine about his warchest? | 16:07 |
| arrrghhh | i'll pm you Kraln's paypal info | 16:07 |
| emwe | Kraln: man you are around. missed that ;) | 16:24 |
| emwe | Kraln: you are likely to ship no microsd, right? (asking just so that i can order one. a barebone device without any additional stuff is even more then i can ask for) | 16:27 |
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| stinebd | Kraln: please pm me your paypal email | 17:05 |
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| zooster | hi there | 17:10 |
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| zooster | anyone here? | 17:26 |
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| stinebd | heh lost vibrate on notify on my n1 again | 17:51 |
| stinebd | gingerbread bug methinks | 17:51 |
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| stinebd | anybody use the official twitter app? | 18:00 |
| arrrghhh | sorry, no twits here. | 18:00 |
| arrrghhh | o wait that's tweets... | 18:01 |
| arrrghhh | oh hey stinebd - did emwe get with you on that donor RHOD? | 18:01 |
| stinebd | no | 18:02 |
| stinebd | i saw the backlog in here | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | oh well. | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 18:02 |
| stinebd | kindly requested Kraln to send me his paypal email | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | just wanted to see if you had monies in the warchest for shipping | 18:02 |
| stinebd | anxiously awaiting reply | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | oh i have that | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | 1 sec | 18:02 |
| Kraln | its paypal@soulstrewn.com | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | o wait | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | i think emwe said he already sent the monies | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | Kraln: can you confirm? | 18:02 |
| Kraln | in a moment | 18:02 |
| Kraln | yeah, no microsd | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | emwe said he was just going to send the monies and talk to you, stinebd later. | 18:03 |
| Kraln | do you want the sprint sim? | 18:03 |
| stinebd | can't imagine why he would | 18:03 |
| stinebd | he's in germany | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | yea i don't think it would do him any good. | 18:03 |
| Kraln | is he going to CCCamp? | 18:06 |
| arrrghhh | dowhat? | 18:06 |
| Kraln | hacker camp | 18:07 |
| arrrghhh | no clue | 18:07 |
| stinebd | i hope not | 18:07 |
| stinebd | we need him here more | 18:07 |
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| Kraln | yeah, I got the money | 18:08 |
| Kraln | I will send it as soon as I can break my schedule to get to the post office :) | 18:08 |
| arrrghhh | guten | 18:08 |
| arrrghhh | Kraln: thanks! | 18:08 |
| Kraln | ja ist guten | 18:08 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd: so i guess you can talk to emwe to sort out the whole war chest thing. | 18:08 |
| arrrghhh | at this point, i think my job is done :D | 18:08 |
| stinebd | sehr gut jetzt du kannst ein bier kaufen. | 18:09 |
| arrrghhh | aber ich ziehe es Speck essen | 18:10 |
| arrrghhh | emwe would be proud, where is he? lol | 18:10 |
| stinebd | sleeping | 18:11 |
| arrrghhh | bah | 18:12 |
| stinebd | it's like midnight there | 18:12 |
| arrrghhh | true | 18:12 |
| stinebd | you ever been to japan? | 18:12 |
| arrrghhh | not i | 18:12 |
| arrrghhh | why? | 18:12 |
| stinebd | trying to plan a trip there | 18:12 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 18:13 |
| arrrghhh | my dad used to live there | 18:13 |
| stinebd | not nice for my wallet | 18:13 |
| arrrghhh | no... can't imagine so. | 18:13 |
| arrrghhh | just going there for a vacation? | 18:13 |
| stinebd | i was gonna try to get lodging at a ryokan but they're so expensive | 18:13 |
| stinebd | yeah | 18:13 |
| arrrghhh | sweet | 18:13 |
| stinebd | and the not expensive ones don't have geisha | 18:13 |
| stinebd | where'd he live? | 18:14 |
| arrrghhh | tokyo | 18:14 |
| stinebd | well yeah, 3/4 of the population lives in tokyo | 18:15 |
| arrrghhh | indeed... | 18:15 |
| arrrghhh | he was stationed there in the early 80's. | 18:16 |
| stinebd | and the rest got confused and went to kyoto instead | 18:16 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:16 |
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| jjpeasl | arrrghhh you around buddy? | 18:27 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 18:27 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 18:27 |
| jjpeasl | question have you ever rooted a htc with android already on it? | 18:29 |
| arrrghhh | i don't have a native android phone so... no. | 18:29 |
| arrrghhh | i assume that's what you mean? | 18:29 |
| stinebd | i have! | 18:29 |
| arrrghhh | not really within the scope of this room. | 18:29 |
| jjpeasl | do you think you can give me a few mins stine? | 18:30 |
| jjpeasl | ive installed all the things i need to root the phone but it says i need to uninstall htc sync how do i do that? | 18:31 |
| stinebd | uh | 18:32 |
| stinebd | wtf is htc sync | 18:32 |
| stinebd | i should've mentioned the htc i rooted was a nexus one | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | jjpeasl: ##android | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | er | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | just one hash | 18:32 |
| jjpeasl | is that the chat channel i should be heading to ? | 18:33 |
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| arrrghhh | stupid laptop | 18:35 |
| arrrghhh | instead of going to japan, you should spend that money on a new laptop for me stinebd | 18:35 |
| stinebd | i don't have that money | 18:35 |
| stinebd | but don't tell the airlines | 18:35 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 18:36 |
| stinebd | Depart 04:35PM Arrive 04:30PM | 18:39 |
| stinebd | sweet | 18:39 |
| stinebd | always wanted to fly in a time machine | 18:39 |
| jjpeasl | but i also wanna say nice work on the xda has been some time and i think i started using the xdandroid again about a month ago, wanna thank you guys still hoping for a possible rom for the tilt2 sooner or later | 18:39 |
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| mes | stinebd, I happen to live with one of those nihon-jin things. It doesn't have to cost alot, just depends where you go. | 19:02 |
| stinebd | things aren't outrageously expensive in japan, i know | 19:03 |
| stinebd | getting to japan can be outrageously expensive though | 19:03 |
| mes | ryokan is more difficult, but business hotel can be quite reasonable. | 19:04 |
| stinebd | how are capsule rates these days? | 19:04 |
| mes | don't know, never had to stay there, Akiyo is really good at finding deals | 19:05 |
| mes | what part are you going? | 19:05 |
| stinebd | tokyo probably | 19:05 |
| mes | when? | 19:06 |
| stinebd | flexible | 19:07 |
| stinebd | definitely not before mid june | 19:07 |
| mes | Her parents live in Tokyo so I never went looking for a room. but we were able to find business hotels with room and breakfast for 5000 to 6000 yen most other places | 19:08 |
| mes | but it cost more once the cherry blossoms bloom | 19:09 |
| stinebd | yeah | 19:09 |
| stinebd | hopefully not as bad as kyoto where it doubles | 19:10 |
| mes | and Sumo is cancelled, I was there for the last basho and didn't go. | 19:10 |
| stinebd | i dont care about sumo | 19:10 |
| stinebd | unless i'm one of the wrestlers | 19:11 |
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| stinebd | i think i should get a rental apartment | 19:39 |
| stinebd | my sister isn't aware of the hotel bathing procedures there | 19:40 |
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| jonpry | stinebd, what exactly does frx05 mean? | 22:37 |
| jonpry | like if i repo init -b froyo and build it | 22:38 |
| jonpry | does that mean my system.img is frx05? | 22:38 |
| arrrghhh | s/b | 22:38 |
| jonpry | what is s/b? | 22:38 |
| arrrghhh | sorry | 22:39 |
| arrrghhh | should be. | 22:39 |
| jonpry | ah | 22:39 |
| jonpry | i want to start distributing big ass package for testing | 22:40 |
| jonpry | like kernel, mods, and system.img | 22:40 |
| arrrghhh | battery madness? | 22:40 |
| jonpry | yeah | 22:40 |
| arrrghhh | wow, it's ready? :D | 22:40 |
| jonpry | well not really | 22:40 |
| jonpry | i need a piece of software from the wizzard | 22:41 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:41 |
| jonpry | and the test image will really just log data so i can process it later | 22:41 |
| jonpry | there is one more algorithm i want to make | 22:41 |
| stinebd | [22:37:52] <jonpry> stinebd, what exactly does frx05 mean? | 22:42 |
| jonpry | is it just when you decide to increment the version number? just a git build? | 22:42 |
| stinebd | it uses a specific release manifest | 22:42 |
| jonpry | oh | 22:42 |
| stinebd | which i have to push, thanks for reminding me | 22:42 |
| jonpry | so the repo init url is different? | 22:43 |
| stinebd | same url, but you specify the manifest (-m xdandroid-2.2.2-manifest.xml) | 22:43 |
| jonpry | so -b froyo -m xdandroid-2.2.2-manifest.xml? | 22:44 |
| stinebd | right | 22:44 |
| stinebd | you can do that in your existing tree to convert it | 22:44 |
| jonpry | cool, thanks | 22:44 |
| stinebd | just repo init and repo sync and it's done | 22:44 |
| jonpry | yeah i converted mine from android opensource at some point | 22:44 |
| jonpry | internet in grenada is slow | 22:44 |
| stinebd | source-wise it's probably the same thing. likely the only difference is the release naming. | 22:44 |
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| jonpry | yeah it didn't download much | 22:45 |
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| stinebd | the release manifests are locked to a snapshot of whatever the latest commits were in the froyo branch when i built the image | 22:46 |
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| sandro_ | Can any one tell me how to debug applications on xdandroid? I installed google usb driver on win7, enabled usb debugging on device, but adb devices returned empty. | 22:57 |
| arrrghhh | sandro_: might want to look at my thread on adb | 22:58 |
| sandro_ | url? | 22:58 |
| arrrghhh | sorry finding link :P | 22:58 |
| arrrghhh | sandro_: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849718&highlight=adb | 23:00 |
| sandro_ | thanks | 23:01 |
| arrrghhh | np | 23:02 |
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| MassestStash | arrrghhh, what up brudda, any poppin tanight yet for nand? | 23:02 |
| arrrghhh | no | 23:02 |
| arrrghhh | not that i know of | 23:02 |
| MassestStash | just chillin on acl then i suppose.... | 23:02 |
| MassestStash | guess boost was fukin with him too, that's crzy | 23:02 |
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| arrrghhh | not surprised | 23:03 |
| MassestStash | really? | 23:03 |
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| arrrghhh | really | 23:03 |
| MassestStash | i worked for sprint, t-mo, and VW and on all of them i used to get some crazy "not supposed to be done" shit... idk | 23:03 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 23:04 |
| MassestStash | like 6mon early upgrades, but that's makin contracts so more inclination there | 23:04 |
| MassestStash | but sucks for us time wise at least | 23:04 |
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| MassestStash | too bad me n you weren't less ignorant in the data waters.... | 23:05 |
| arrrghhh | i actually do it for a living, just not for mobiles | 23:06 |
| arrrghhh | i got data working, but no dns. | 23:06 |
| arrrghhh | still seems an issue with the link to pppd. | 23:07 |
| arrrghhh | not sure tho, kinda where i get lost - mobile data. | 23:07 |
| jonpry | i think it is tethering | 23:13 |
| jonpry | your logcat seems to indicate the tethering daemon cannot load something and is killing ppp connections | 23:14 |
| jonpry | dunno if you can turn that off | 23:14 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 23:14 |
| arrrghhh | odd... | 23:14 |
| jonpry | or remove the daemon | 23:14 |
| arrrghhh | i did notice that as well. | 23:14 |
| arrrghhh | just not sure what to do with it. | 23:14 |
| jonpry | is there something in your ps that looks like tethering? | 23:14 |
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| arrrghhh | MassestStash: ? | 23:15 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry: not on nand right now. | 23:15 |
| arrrghhh | had endless SoD issues on NAND. | 23:15 |
| jonpry | :p | 23:15 |
| jonpry | f nand | 23:15 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:17 |
| arrrghhh | you love nand | 23:17 |
| arrrghhh | don't lie | 23:17 |
| jonpry | nand did things to me that i can't talk about | 23:18 |
| jonpry | just ask [acl] | 23:18 |
| arrrghhh | Oo? | 23:18 |
| arrrghhh | i just want to get rid of winmo | 23:18 |
| arrrghhh | not at the sacrifice of stability. | 23:18 |
| arrrghhh | so i just flash to help test, but i always flash back to winmo and use haret. | 23:19 |
| jonpry | well it looks like pppd is coming up now | 23:19 |
| jonpry | and we should be able to fix this somehow | 23:20 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 23:20 |
| arrrghhh | haret works great, we should be able to get all the crap working on nand that we have on haret. | 23:20 |
| jonpry | data has always worked | 23:20 |
| arrrghhh | acl just decided to blow everything up | 23:21 |
| jonpry | just not on acl's new brainchild | 23:21 |
| arrrghhh | by everything i mean /bin and rootfs. | 23:21 |
| arrrghhh | probably some other crap too, he was on a rampage. | 23:21 |
| jonpry | i don't see why | 23:21 |
| jonpry | wasn't there | 23:21 |
| arrrghhh | i don't either | 23:21 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not very knowledgeable. | 23:21 |
| arrrghhh | doesn't seem like a good idea from where i'm sitting, but again... i don't know much :P | 23:22 |
| jonpry | something about making full nand | 23:22 |
| jonpry | lots of garbage in rootfs was depending on stuff being in the wrong place | 23:22 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 23:22 |
| arrrghhh | awesome. | 23:22 |
| jonpry | easiest thing is just to blame it on stinebd | 23:23 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:23 |
| arrrghhh | and phh | 23:23 |
| jonpry | how could they | 23:24 |
| jonpry | but i mean who wants full nand | 23:24 |
| jonpry | who doesn't have sd? | 23:24 |
| * arrrghhh does | 23:24 | |
| arrrghhh | usb mass storage | 23:24 |
| jonpry | and as soon as it was done, the same old shit started | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | reboot to android | 23:24 |
| jonpry | [acl] going on about how to remove 12kB from kernel | 23:25 |
| arrrghhh | no mo winmo | 23:25 |
| arrrghhh | 12kb | 23:25 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:25 |
| jonpry | and 100kB from rootfs | 23:25 |
| jonpry | so it will fit and have some space | 23:25 |
| arrrghhh | i certainly don't want to flash something that doesn't work | 23:25 |
| arrrghhh | but if i can flash something that does work, i'd do it in a heartbeat. | 23:25 |
| jonpry | next everyone will start thinking about how cool it would be to get another 8gb of storage | 23:26 |
| arrrghhh | i can have another 8gb of storage? | 23:27 |
| jonpry | yeah its called putting it all on sd :p | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | but i have a 512mb sd card | 23:28 |
| jonpry | then you can triple your storage | 23:28 |
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| arrrghhh | :( | 23:29 |
| jonpry | <arrrghhh> but i have a 512mb sd card ->>>>>>> i don't believe you | 23:29 |
| jonpry | everyone knows that testers are rocking class 20's | 23:30 |
| jonpry | 16gb | 23:30 |
| bzo | messing with userland is getting popular nowadays | 23:33 |
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| jonpry | hi bzo | 23:34 |
| bzo | so you putting out xdandroid:batt edition? :p | 23:34 |
| jonpry | yeah | 23:35 |
| jonpry | i'm gonna have to put up a deal on xda | 23:35 |
| bzo | you can't just distribute a few libs or packages? | 23:35 |
| jonpry | or try and get [acl] to do it | 23:35 |
| jonpry | i could, but who it going to adb and remount there rootfs just to get me some logs | 23:35 |
| bzo | I think arrrghhh is your man for that job | 23:35 |
| stinebd | i'm gonna have to sign that aren't i? | 23:35 |
| bzo | the camera testers jumped through all sorts of hoop, but they would probably be more motivated | 23:36 |
| jonpry | battery testers have been endlessly burned | 23:37 |
| jonpry | stinebd, i do not understand | 23:37 |
| stinebd | jonpry: you're releasing that thing that collects battery dat? | 23:37 |
| stinebd | data* | 23:37 |
| jonpry | yeah working on it | 23:37 |
| stinebd | in your own system image? | 23:38 |
| jonpry | i just have the binary | 23:38 |
| jonpry | don't know how to daemonize it yet | 23:38 |
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| stinebd | ok | 23:38 |
| stinebd | no frameworks changes or anything like that needed | 23:38 |
| jonpry | no | 23:38 |
| stinebd | ok good | 23:38 |
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| jonpry | i thought so too | 23:39 |
| stinebd | make your own rootfs with it then | 23:39 |
| stinebd | put the daemon in /bin and edit init.$branch.rc to start it | 23:39 |
| jonpry | ok | 23:39 |
| jonpry | i wouldn't need to unpack it during boot or anything? | 23:40 |
| stinebd | unpack? | 23:40 |
| jonpry | we used to have things in initrd that would install themselves onto the mounts/modify files | 23:41 |
| stinebd | nothing like that | 23:41 |
| stinebd | just roll your own rootfs with the daemon already installed in its /bin and edit the init.froyo.rc | 23:41 |
| jonpry | easier than system.img? | 23:42 |
| stinebd | much | 23:42 |
| jonpry | sounds like a plan then | 23:42 |
| stinebd | the daemon will write to some file in /sdcard? | 23:42 |
| jonpry | or /data | 23:43 |
| stinebd | ok | 23:43 |
| jonpry | i think /data is risky | 23:43 |
| stinebd | me too | 23:43 |
| bzo | less issues with the testers if you put in in sd | 23:44 |
| stinebd | so when you edit init.froyo.rc, just add a line down at the bottom with a new service | 23:44 |
| stinebd | the syntax is: service symbolicname /path/to/program args | 23:45 |
| jonpry | and how do i kill it | 23:45 |
| stinebd | manually? adb shell stop symbolicname | 23:45 |
| jonpry | programatically | 23:45 |
| stinebd | some kinda setprop call | 23:46 |
| stinebd | let me find it | 23:46 |
| stinebd | property_set("ctl.stop", "symbolicname") | 23:47 |
| stinebd | and similarly ctl.start to start it up again | 23:47 |
| jonpry | oO | 23:47 |
| jonpry | thanks | 23:47 |
| jonpry | just need a piece of wistilt2 technology and i should be close anyways :p | 23:48 |
| bzo | stinebd: so looked at the gps stuff some more today | 23:50 |
| bzo | looks like I'll just be porting the old junk over | 23:50 |
| stinebd | maybe it'll magically get better like sensors did | 23:50 |
| jonpry | bzo, no rewrite? | 23:51 |
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| arrrghhh | damned laptop. | 23:51 |
| bzo | stinebd: there's this Entropy guy on xda who's trying to fix stuff up, so maybe it will get a bit better | 23:51 |
| bzo | jonpry: wanted to use the qcom implementation, but it seems it's practical only for newer msm devices | 23:51 |
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