| arrrghhh | active wake lock PowerManagerService | 00:00 |
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| rpierce99 | and we have debugging! | 00:00 |
| rpierce99 | yeah powermanagerservice was the one giving me headaches earlier | 00:00 |
| arrrghhh | OOPS - smd_tty_buffer mismatch?! | 00:00 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:00 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 00:01 |
| arrrghhh | seeing a lot of those END CALL errors | 00:01 |
| rpierce99 | i have that in my log too | 00:01 |
| rpierce99 | the oops | 00:01 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. | 00:01 |
| arrrghhh | yea definitely not releasing this. | 00:01 |
| rpierce99 | card 0001 removed, ruh roh | 00:01 |
| arrrghhh | which is why i wish you wouldn't hype crap up, because now they want it. | 00:01 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not going to pull a tiad and release sub-part stuff. | 00:02 |
| rpierce99 | all he added was committed code, this issue exists in the posted kernel | 00:02 |
| arrrghhh | probably | 00:02 |
| arrrghhh | have you tried the newest from GIT? | 00:02 |
| * arrrghhh definitely has not | 00:02 | |
| rpierce99 | no i mean the one you posted has the issue i am having, and the issue you are having | 00:03 |
| arrrghhh | orly | 00:03 |
| arrrghhh | i was able to sleep on that kernel | 00:03 |
| arrrghhh | er | 00:03 |
| arrrghhh | phone was able to sleep | 00:03 |
| rpierce99 | unmount your libs and see what you get | 00:03 |
| rpierce99 | actually i think my powermanagerservice wake lock issues started when i upgraded @ about 4pm | 00:04 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 00:04 |
| arrrghhh | so you think it's the libs? | 00:04 |
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| arrrghhh | has that dude ever said anything? | 00:06 |
| arrrghhh | he's always in here, never seen him say a thing. | 00:06 |
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| arrrghhh | lol | 00:07 |
| odz | creepy | 00:08 |
| rpierce99 | yeah i just checked the logs, my issues with powermanagerservice started with todays test kernel | 00:09 |
| arrrghhh | ok same kernel | 00:09 |
| arrrghhh | no libs | 00:09 |
| rpierce99 | it did sleep though, just slow | 00:10 |
| arrrghhh | we shall see if phone can sleepy now | 00:10 |
| arrrghhh | i couldn't get it to sleep at all, no matter what i did | 00:10 |
| arrrghhh | killed apps | 00:10 |
| arrrghhh | new data.img | 00:10 |
| arrrghhh | checked gps | 00:10 |
| arrrghhh | not sure what else that would prevent sleep that i can fix from within android... | 00:10 |
| rpierce99 | what is the VSZ column in PS? | 00:12 |
| rpierce99 | virtual memory size | 00:12 |
| arrrghhh | sounds good | 00:13 |
| rpierce99 | when you get into android can you tell me how big zygote is? | 00:13 |
| arrrghhh | holyfuck | 00:13 |
| rpierce99 | vsz | 00:13 |
| arrrghhh | instant sleep, same kernel... no libs | 00:13 |
| arrrghhh | that sucks. | 00:13 |
| arrrghhh | 85880 | 00:14 |
| arrrghhh | zygote /bin/app_process -Xzygote /system/bin --zygote | 00:14 |
| arrrghhh | that process right? | 00:14 |
| rpierce99 | hm, guess it's supposed to be that big | 00:14 |
| rpierce99 | trying to trace this sluggishness | 00:15 |
| rpierce99 | the weird part is it's only certain parts of the system | 00:15 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 00:15 |
| rpierce99 | apps, touch, etc is responsive, buttons, usb, etc might as well be in molasses | 00:16 |
| arrrghhh | odd | 00:16 |
| arrrghhh | i'm guessing that's all gpio stuff? or all microp stuff. | 00:16 |
| arrrghhh | too many terms that i have no clue what they actually mean. | 00:16 |
| rpierce99 | only 2564k memory free according to top | 00:17 |
| rpierce99 | are you in that ballpark? | 00:17 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 00:17 |
| arrrghhh | 2528k | 00:17 |
| arrrghhh | 2332 | 00:17 |
| arrrghhh | jeebus | 00:17 |
| arrrghhh | 172872k used | 00:17 |
| rpierce99 | hmmmm, i dunno then | 00:18 |
| rpierce99 | don't know where else to look | 00:18 |
| arrrghhh | yea i'm not getting any lag | 00:18 |
| arrrghhh | logcat? | 00:18 |
| rpierce99 | yeah it's delayed, took 18 hours running the kernel the first time | 00:18 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 00:19 |
| arrrghhh | someone said if the phone is sleeping | 00:19 |
| arrrghhh | and they plug in usb/ac whatever | 00:19 |
| arrrghhh | the led goes orange, and then back to solid green | 00:19 |
| arrrghhh | they were thinking it's still charging and in deep sleep... | 00:20 |
| arrrghhh | i would think this is a bug, as the phone probably isn't charging at all. | 00:20 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i could check it in a while to see if the battery is higher | 00:20 |
| rpierce99 | actually i think it's usb debugging that keeps the phone out of deep sleep, so if it hasn't picked up the usb cable for that yet, could be charging | 00:20 |
| rpierce99 | of course i don't know anything for sure | 00:20 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:21 |
| arrrghhh | at least you're honest. | 00:21 |
| rpierce99 | easy enough to test i guess | 00:21 |
| rpierce99 | why'd ya spill the beans | 00:22 |
| rpierce99 | you're bad at this marketing thing | 00:22 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't spill anything | 00:22 |
| arrrghhh | just that we're having issues | 00:22 |
| arrrghhh | and i'm not going to release it with problems. | 00:22 |
| rpierce99 | saying you'll release it tomorrow kills the suspense | 00:22 |
| arrrghhh | although the problem doesn't seem kernel related... | 00:22 |
| arrrghhh | nope | 00:23 |
| arrrghhh | not charging | 00:23 |
| arrrghhh | i really wish you just had kept your mouth shut :P | 00:25 |
| rpierce99 | just tell em you're bricked, so you won't be releasing it, ever | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | that'll go over well | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | hey maybe i'd get a bunch of donations. | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | evil. | 00:27 |
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| sanket | How to enable USB for android? | 00:36 |
| arrrghhh | USB mass storage? | 00:36 |
| arrrghhh | cuz USB works, for debugging. with droid explorer you can kinda do usb mass storage, but it's not true usb mass storage | 00:37 |
| arrrghhh | so long as we're running android off of the SD, that'll never work. | 00:37 |
| arrrghhh | ...did that answer your question? | 00:41 |
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| clockworkMD | hey | 00:49 |
| arrrghhh | ...do you have a question clockworkMD? | 00:52 |
| clockworkMD | well i was wondering how i register my nick here, it says my nickname is not registered | 00:54 |
| arrrghhh | http://freenode.net/faq.shtml | 00:55 |
| clockworkMD | cheers | 00:55 |
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| bear_ | what is the best way to sync android to ms outlook? | 01:39 |
| bear_ | and vis versa | 01:39 |
| arrrghhh | 01:40 | |
| arrrghhh | skip outlook | 01:40 |
| bear_ | ya I kno just used to using it on my computer have it imap to all my google accounts | 01:40 |
| arrrghhh | using gsync, you can keep winmo and android in perfect harmony | 01:40 |
| arrrghhh | bleh imap | 01:40 |
| arrrghhh | push | 01:40 |
| bear_ | lol, only issue I had is one time I synced my outlook contacts to my google account and it messed them all up, some contacts have 4 phone numbers 2 addresses a company name birthdate and anniversary and etc, | 01:42 |
| bear_ | only imported half the info for each contact, | 01:42 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 01:43 |
| arrrghhh | never had that issue | 01:43 |
| arrrghhh | but i never really had my contacts in outlook | 01:43 |
| bear_ | eh I got used to using outlook at work and have liked it since, makes checking 6 google accounts easier too | 01:43 |
| arrrghhh | 6 | 01:44 |
| arrrghhh | holy fawk | 01:44 |
| bear_ | 3 for my domain and 3 from google itself, | 01:44 |
| arrrghhh | i thought i was ridiculous for having 2. | 01:44 |
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| bear_ | lol, | 01:44 |
| arrrghhh | well i guess 3 if you count my xdandroid accout, but i just forward that mail onto another box. | 01:44 |
| bear_ | I have 3 gv numbers | 01:44 |
| arrrghhh | you can't be that important. | 01:44 |
| bear_ | honestly I am not, | 01:45 |
| arrrghhh | or do you use it as a way to convince yourself that you are? lol | 01:45 |
| sanket | How to enable USB for android? ... I m working on friendlyARM mini6410 development board.... I giving usb support for kernel... but it is not detecting any usb storage device | 01:46 |
| bear_ | I am trying to start my computer repair business and i have a few friends and family intrested in doing it with me, dont want to give my cell out to customers so I have one gv number that matches the last four and the area code of my cell and then one number advanced 5840 5841 | 01:47 |
| bear_ | easier for people to remember and etc, | 01:48 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 01:48 |
| bear_ | I had 2 cell numbers too one via an att sim *prepaid* and vzw for the primary via cdma | 01:55 |
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| bear_ | Does HTC sync work well at all? | 02:13 |
| arrrghhh | never used it | 02:14 |
| arrrghhh | ...so... i dunno :P | 02:14 |
| sanket | How to become root user in android.... | 02:16 |
| arrrghhh | su? | 02:16 |
| bear_ | Last question of the night, any specific driver we should be using with this version of droid? | 02:18 |
| arrrghhh | driver...? | 02:18 |
| arrrghhh | for what? | 02:18 |
| bear_ | windows to recognize it | 02:19 |
| arrrghhh | for adb? | 02:19 |
| arrrghhh | cuz that's all that you can use right now. | 02:19 |
| arrrghhh | droid explorer will take care of all the driver crap for winblows. | 02:19 |
| bear_ | ahhh ok , makes sense now, was gonna try hooking up with htc sync, see if that would take care of the syncing outlook | 02:20 |
| arrrghhh | hrm... | 02:21 |
| arrrghhh | not sure. | 02:21 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps. | 02:21 |
| arrrghhh | i'd backup all your contacts before doing anything drastic. | 02:21 |
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| sanket | arrrghhh, while running su I m getting permission denied | 02:22 |
| arrrghhh | you're running XDAndroid? | 02:22 |
| bear_ | thank you for the advise was going to as well but It seems htc sync wont work without it being recognised by usb, the driver the htc program is trying to install is the HTC BMP USB DRIVER 1.0.5375 (32-bit) | 02:23 |
| arrrghhh | bear_: yea... definitely haven't tried that. sorry. | 02:23 |
| bear_ | I am, its the HTC Sync software trying to install that particular driver, | 02:24 |
| bear_ | But its stuck on that file, wont progress | 02:24 |
| arrrghhh | sorry the XDAndroid question was directed at sanket | 02:24 |
| arrrghhh | sanket: are you running XDAndroid? | 02:24 |
| bear_ | as you said most likely because only adb is working | 02:24 |
| sanket | arrrghhh, I new to android .... I m using android 2.1 ... and I want to interface data card, infrared and TV out ... with android OS.... | 02:27 |
| arrrghhh | sanket: doesn't answer my question | 02:27 |
| arrrghhh | 2.1 is ooooold | 02:27 |
| arrrghhh | haven't maintained anything on it in a long time. | 02:27 |
| arrrghhh | if you're on XDAndroid, you should look at updating to FRX04 (2.2.1) | 02:28 |
| sanket | arrrghhh, I had a mini6410 developemnt board.... Its already installed on that board..... | 02:28 |
| arrrghhh | so what you're telling me is you have no clue what XDAndroid is | 02:29 |
| arrrghhh | and you somehow found this room because...? | 02:29 |
| arrrghhh | i dunno | 02:29 |
| arrrghhh | go to ##android | 02:29 |
| arrrghhh | we can't help you here... | 02:29 |
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| arrrghhh | sleepy time | 02:30 |
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| Recnamoruen | f22 | 03:36 |
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| RogueAgent | hmmm | 04:00 |
| RogueAgent | I see the camera is upposed to work now | 04:00 |
| RogueAgent | how do i u se it? | 04:01 |
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| creat1ve | hey guys | 11:15 |
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| creat1ve | is there someone who can help me (again)? | 11:17 |
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| [acl] | who der? | 12:08 |
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| arrrghhh | me | 12:09 |
| arrrghhh | kinda | 12:09 |
| arrrghhh | but i don't matter | 12:09 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 12:09 |
| [acl] | u got those dumps for me ? | 12:09 |
| arrrghhh | couldn't find 'em | 12:09 |
| [acl] | dammn | 12:09 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think i sent them to wistilt2... | 12:09 |
| [acl] | grrrr.. i need to figure something out then | 12:10 |
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| [acl] | arrrghhh: i ran my phone last night all night.. none of those panel deaths.. | 12:11 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 12:11 |
| arrrghhh | i had a ton of issues trying to wake the screen | 12:12 |
| arrrghhh | when i first ran nand | 12:12 |
| arrrghhh | did you update any of the code since? | 12:12 |
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| arrrghhh | perhaps that's why, i was on an ancient nand kernel. | 12:12 |
| [acl] | arrrghhh: the old yes had issues. the newer one doesnt have em. But alot of people get confused about some of these deaths. | 12:12 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 12:13 |
| arrrghhh | yea, i need to try the newest nand | 12:13 |
| arrrghhh | gf really getting pissed off at me lately tho :S | 12:13 |
| arrrghhh | i need two phones! | 12:13 |
| [acl] | Back in the days you can get similar results when the system server would consume all the resources | 12:13 |
| [acl] | so it never had time to wake up makeing it look like th panel is bad but its just the cpu beign pegged | 12:13 |
| arrrghhh | food time, brb | 12:13 |
| [acl] | coo | 12:13 |
| [acl] | stinebd: you here bro? | 12:14 |
| L_miller | [acl] - how big should your root be? | 12:15 |
| L_miller | 5MB or 8MB? | 12:15 |
| [acl] | L_miller: not really sure. doesnt seem like something the masses would use | 12:15 |
| [acl] | wonder if it should be dev only | 12:15 |
| L_miller | yeah I agree. | 12:16 |
| L_miller | smaller the better. | 12:16 |
| [acl] | worse case i can even use the sdcard to kexec so devs have all sorts of options | 12:16 |
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| L_miller | true. | 12:16 |
| lenf | hello | 12:16 |
| L_miller | We willl just set root to 5MB. | 12:16 |
| [acl] | L_miller: and since Nate wants a /cache parition then we can always share ? | 12:17 |
| lenf | can some one help me with a rhod100 and FROYO 2.2.1 BLAZN | 12:17 |
| [acl] | L_miller: not really sure what a cache partition is for.. i guess its for recovery but how often is it used? | 12:17 |
| L_miller | Not sure either... | 12:17 |
| L_miller | I didn't see it on the vogues nand | 12:18 |
| L_miller | Didn't know where he got that from. | 12:18 |
| [acl] | real android devices seem to have it | 12:18 |
| L_miller | ok. | 12:18 |
| [acl] | im researching if they all do | 12:18 |
| [acl] | or just a few | 12:18 |
| [acl] | i have been actually fooling the system by linknig /cache to /data/tmpcache | 12:18 |
| [acl] | so we use the data partition | 12:18 |
| L_miller | I think that is what the vouge uses... | 12:19 |
| L_miller | It's big enought | 12:19 |
| L_miller | enough* | 12:19 |
| [acl] | yup | 12:19 |
| L_miller | How big should the system be/ | 12:19 |
| L_miller | ? | 12:19 |
| [acl] | i duno.. cyanogen is actually small.. butt thats cuz they compress their modules | 12:20 |
| lenf | can you help me ?\ | 12:20 |
| [acl] | lenf: just ask.. we will see if we can answer | 12:20 |
| L_miller | how small? | 12:20 |
| lenf | rhod100 and FROYO 2.2.1 BLAZN | 12:20 |
| lenf | i format my sd to fat 32 | 12:21 |
| lenf | and than set all files in the root | 12:21 |
| [acl] | L_miller: they use squash fs to squash the modules to about 7 mb.. | 12:21 |
| lenf | if i open herret.exe | 12:21 |
| lenf | it wil stuck in the black screen with wihite letters | 12:21 |
| lenf | possible that my sd card isnt compatible? | 12:21 |
| L_miller | lenf - is your sim card removed? | 12:22 |
| emwe | [acl]: hiding in here only!? ;) | 12:22 |
| [acl] | emwe: actually trying to hunt down stine | 12:22 |
| lenf | by a rhod100? | 12:22 |
| [acl] | emwe: need some advice on the ril.. and i figured he would know | 12:22 |
| lenf | that is a gsm type right? | 12:22 |
| emwe | perhaps he reliefs from his commit-marathon last night | 12:22 |
| L_miller | lenf - correct. | 12:22 |
| [acl] | emwe: you ever compile the ril ? | 12:23 |
| lenf | i must remove it? | 12:23 |
| arrrghhh | lenf: we don't help with that build. | 12:23 |
| emwe | [acl]: yes, had to do some little memleak and return fix recently. compiling frx/gbx myself | 12:23 |
| arrrghhh | sorry | 12:23 |
| arrrghhh | lenf: you must be using some form of XDAndroid to get help in here. | 12:23 |
| lenf | oh | 12:24 |
| [acl] | emwe: awesome.. this is my issue | 12:24 |
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| [acl] | emwe: the ril seems to make reference to /bin/pppd | 12:24 |
| emwe | [acl]: yes, line 1996 | 12:25 |
| [acl] | emwe: thing is on nand we need to kill /bin to reduce the space of initrd. Actually i want to kill bin completely if possible | 12:25 |
| emwe | mypppstatus = system("/bin/pppd /dev/smd1");//Or smd7 ? | 12:25 |
| [acl] | emwe: ahh ok.. so this is the only line change? i need /system/bin/pppd | 12:25 |
| emwe | we could use /system/bin/pppd (that one is even more up to date then the one in rootfs or init... whatnot) | 12:25 |
| emwe | that system pppd is chattier and more verbose for debugging. | 12:26 |
| emwe | noticed when trying to get data working on .35 | 12:26 |
| [acl] | well /system/bin should be the correct location. i guess /bin was used since it was left over from the vogue | 12:26 |
| emwe | [acl]: ok to wait for stine to pop up? don't wan't to mess with his plans. | 12:26 |
| emwe | [acl]: /bin is from where actually? rootfs? | 12:27 |
| [acl] | emwe: yeah im not asking for a commit..lol i just need a test ril for nand | 12:27 |
| lenf | arrrghhh where can i find this xda for my phone? | 12:27 |
| [acl] | emwe: /bin is from initrd | 12:27 |
| arrrghhh | lenf: xda-devs? | 12:27 |
| emwe | [acl]: k. think i found like 3 or 4 pppd one a "find /" once... | 12:27 |
| emwe | [acl]: one sec plz. is a gb one ok? (shouldn't matter) | 12:28 |
| [acl] | gb one? | 12:28 |
| emwe | gingerbread | 12:29 |
| emwe | fsck... not building. man.... | 12:29 |
| emwe | [acl]: might take a bit. damnit. | 12:29 |
| [acl] | i didnt know there was a diff in rill between gb and froyo.. | 12:29 |
| [acl] | damn gb | 12:29 |
| emwe | no right. | 12:29 |
| emwe | sry | 12:30 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 12:30 |
| lenf | that was from the xda forums | 12:30 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 12:30 |
| arrrghhh | but it's not something we support | 12:30 |
| arrrghhh | if you want support with any of tiad8's builds, you need to post in that thread. | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | we won't support that butchered garbage... | 12:31 |
| lenf | link for youre threads? | 12:31 |
| lenf | idc use a other one | 12:31 |
| lenf | if it works im happy | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | spoon feed time | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | you want gingerbread or froyo | 12:32 |
| lenf | froyo | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951962 | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | read the first post | 12:32 |
| arrrghhh | carefully | 12:32 |
| lenf | thanks | 12:32 |
| lenf | i gonna try this | 12:33 |
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| emwe | [acl]: try this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12183048/htctopaz/tmp/libhtcgeneric-ril.so.system_bin_pppd | 12:34 |
| [acl] | Lmiller_Lunch: doood. got another test for you | 12:35 |
| [acl] | emwe: thanks bro.. ill have a few guys test right away. | 12:35 |
| emwe | [acl]: np. hope i didn't screw ;) | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 12:35 |
| emwe | hm. will build an image anyway and see ;) | 12:35 |
| emwe | brb5 | 12:36 |
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| Aks | hey guys ... morning | 12:37 |
| Aks | I have a question to ask about the new GB build - is the market working ? | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | on stine's image it is | 12:38 |
| Aks | Its looking for apps n all but cannot install them | 12:38 |
| Aks | ok | 12:39 |
| arrrghhh | new data.img? | 12:40 |
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| Aks | ya | 12:42 |
| Aks | I always clean n then put a new build on | 12:42 |
| arrrghhh | i'm saying make one | 12:42 |
| Aks | ok | 12:42 |
| lenf | same problem | 12:44 |
| arrrghhh | lenf: did you follow the directions? | 12:45 |
| lenf | yes | 12:45 |
| arrrghhh | all of them? like the ts-calib part is pretty important | 12:45 |
| lenf | i put the startup to the root | 12:47 |
| lenf | where herret is | 12:47 |
| lenf | and boot and same story | 12:47 |
| lenf | sd card not suported? | 12:48 |
| lenf | or not good format? | 12:48 |
| arrrghhh | you renamed the file right? | 12:48 |
| arrrghhh | or created your own on an old kernel? | 12:48 |
| lenf | what file | 12:49 |
| arrrghhh | ts-calib... | 12:50 |
| lenf | im folowing steps but i get stuck | 12:50 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:50 |
| arrrghhh | where are you getting stuck | 12:50 |
| arrrghhh | don't try to boot if you don't complete all of the steps | 12:50 |
| lenf | 1. Download the full bundle (zip). | 12:50 |
| lenf | done | 12:50 |
| lenf | 2 and 3 | 12:51 |
| lenf | also done | 12:51 |
| lenf | if i do 4 | 12:51 |
| lenf | it get stuck in the black screen with white letters | 12:51 |
| lenf | im formatting fat 32 | 12:51 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 12:51 |
| arrrghhh | read #5 | 12:51 |
| arrrghhh | i guess my order was kinda off | 12:51 |
| arrrghhh | you need a ts-calibration file | 12:52 |
| arrrghhh | or run on an older kernel and create your own. | 12:52 |
| [acl] | that ts shit needs to be removed | 12:53 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:53 |
| arrrghhh | do eeeeeet [acl] | 12:53 |
| [acl] | nahh | 12:53 |
| [acl] | bigger fish to fry | 12:53 |
| [acl] | like em giant tunas | 12:53 |
| lenf | ok | 12:54 |
| lenf | i must register | 12:54 |
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| lenf | ok i have that file | 12:59 |
| lenf | where shall i place it | 12:59 |
| lenf | but will it help to mount my sd cars? | 12:59 |
| arrrghhh | rename it | 13:00 |
| arrrghhh | and put it where haret.exe is | 13:00 |
| arrrghhh | what do you mean help to mount your sd card? | 13:00 |
| arrrghhh | is that your issue? | 13:00 |
| arrrghhh | lol, update the kernel. | 13:01 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't realize that was your problem, you just said there was a black screen with text... | 13:01 |
| lenf | sorry mate | 13:01 |
| arrrghhh | update to the newest kernel on GIT | 13:01 |
| lenf | im new here but i think thats the problem | 13:01 |
| arrrghhh | the instructions are at the bottom of the first post. | 13:01 |
| lenf | i never had android on my phone | 13:03 |
| lenf | but i will didnt know it was so difficult | 13:03 |
| arrrghhh | LOL | 13:03 |
| arrrghhh | then stick to winmo dude. | 13:03 |
| arrrghhh | this isn't exactly 'done' | 13:03 |
| arrrghhh | we're far from 'done' in fact. so if it's a problem, seriously. stick to winmo. | 13:04 |
| lenf | haha | 13:04 |
| lenf | i will try | 13:04 |
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| lenf | .qz unzipping or not? | 13:08 |
| lenf | srry | 13:09 |
| lenf | answer was no | 13:10 |
| lenf | wich kernel i need | 13:11 |
| lenf | newest? | 13:11 |
| arrrghhh | might as well | 13:13 |
| arrrghhh | be bleeding edge | 13:13 |
| lenf | whojoo | 13:16 |
| lenf | creating new data stor | 13:17 |
| lenf | something news :D | 13:17 |
| arrrghhh | guten | 13:17 |
| lenf | but that ts-cali | 13:18 |
| lenf | where must i put that | 13:18 |
| arrrghhh | wherever you run haret from | 13:20 |
| arrrghhh | root of sd | 13:20 |
| arrrghhh | andboot folder | 13:20 |
| arrrghhh | whatever | 13:20 |
| lenf | ok whitout .txt | 13:21 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 13:21 |
| arrrghhh | no file extension basically | 13:21 |
| lenf | so i need soft reset i think | 13:21 |
| arrrghhh | i gotta go | 13:21 |
| arrrghhh | peace | 13:21 |
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| Aks | no google maps in the preloaded apps on GB build | 14:27 |
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| sexiestManAlive | hi all | 16:30 |
| sexiestManAlive | Yesterday I installed XDAndroid on my HTC Touch Diamond | 16:30 |
| sexiestManAlive | worked well at a first look | 16:30 |
| sexiestManAlive | but now I see some problems | 16:31 |
| sexiestManAlive | First: | 16:31 |
| sexiestManAlive | There was no setup wizard starting up, only the green android robot with some tips | 16:31 |
| sexiestManAlive | is there any way to start the setup wizard manually? | 16:32 |
| rpierce99 | what do you need to do with the setup wizard? | 16:33 |
| sexiestManAlive | I thought that would be an systematic way, to setup at least the main parts of the system. For example the mobile internet didn't work at a first try. | 16:34 |
| rpierce99 | what carrier? | 16:35 |
| sexiestManAlive | O2 Germany | 16:35 |
| sexiestManAlive | I went into the settings into mobile internet and than carrier or something like that and the screen got black | 16:36 |
| rpierce99 | calls and texts work ok? | 16:36 |
| sexiestManAlive | I did not try any call or SMS yet with android | 16:37 |
| sexiestManAlive | I had to remove the battery after the screen got black. The system gave no response without that! | 16:38 |
| sexiestManAlive | I tried it only one time, until now. | 16:38 |
| rpierce99 | well especially the first boot, it can be unstable, it would be really helpful if you ran it a couple more times at least to make sure your issues weren't just related to first boot sluggishness | 16:39 |
| sexiestManAlive | ok, I bootet only 2 times yet | 16:40 |
| sexiestManAlive | I caused that crash after the second boot | 16:40 |
| sexiestManAlive | There is another issue | 16:41 |
| sexiestManAlive | After shutdown and reboot windows mobile, the clock is going -1 hour | 16:41 |
| sexiestManAlive | after second shutdown and windows mobile boot it goes -2 hours! | 16:42 |
| sexiestManAlive | seems like android manipulates the clock! | 16:42 |
| sexiestManAlive | shouldn't it only read until I change the time manually? | 16:43 |
| rpierce99 | known issue, android runs on UTC, winmo runs on local time, so when WinMo updates your clock, android gets set off again. Download ClockSync from the android market to make the issue go away | 16:43 |
| sexiestManAlive | ok | 16:44 |
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| sexiestManAlive | I think I will give it a try right now | 16:45 |
| sexiestManAlive | Do you think, XDAndroid on HTC Touch Diamond is ready for productive use? | 16:46 |
| sexiestManAlive | or don't you think its stable enough? | 16:46 |
| rpierce99 | i'm not familiar enough with how it works specifically on the diamond, sorry | 16:49 |
| rpierce99 | on my phone i use it as my every day os, it is faster and more stable than WinMo | 16:49 |
| rpierce99 | but I have a Rhod | 16:49 |
| sexiestManAlive | mhm | 16:50 |
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| bzo | stinebd: have you seen a gb compile error in MediaProvider complaining about not finding symbol COMPILATION | 17:22 |
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| sexiestManAlive | @rperice99: thanks for your time...It works better now :) | 17:41 |
| sexiestManAlive | bb | 17:41 |
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| stinebd | did anybody ask for pictures as proof? | 17:42 |
| bzo | stinebd: so have you ever run into that problem? ^^ | 17:44 |
| stinebd | bzo: no | 17:45 |
| stinebd | i wonder what you people do to your aosp trees to make them exhibit this weird behavior | 17:45 |
| bzo | hey, I just follow the guide on wiki :P | 17:46 |
| stinebd | well there's your first problem | 17:46 |
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| stinebd | no update.zip for frx05 | 18:44 |
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| rpierce99 | OTA isn't possible? | 18:45 |
| stinebd | i'm gonna go with the excuse that we're switching build variants | 18:45 |
| stinebd | but in reality i just accidentally deleted the FRX04 target files without copying it to my distro dir | 18:46 |
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| rpierce99 | i won't tell if you don't | 18:46 |
| rpierce99 | although these chats are logged, so the googles know | 18:46 |
| TheDeadCPU | How could we do OTAs with no recovery? | 18:47 |
| TheDeadCPU | We'd have to make a winmo program for it or womething | 18:47 |
| TheDeadCPU | something* | 18:47 |
| stinebd | we have a recovery | 18:47 |
| TheDeadCPU | Oh, we do? | 18:47 |
| stinebd | in rootfs | 18:47 |
| stinebd | it checks for sdcard:update.zip and if it finds it, uses the recovery init script | 18:48 |
| TheDeadCPU | So, if there is a update.zip on the SDcard it'll update? | 18:48 |
| stinebd | yes | 18:49 |
| TheDeadCPU | Interesting. | 18:49 |
| TheDeadCPU | Why didn't I get the memo? | 18:49 |
| stinebd | because you don't read my blog | 18:49 |
| stinebd | or the posts in the forum | 18:49 |
| stinebd | or the wiki | 18:49 |
| TheDeadCPU | damn | 18:50 |
| rpierce99 | http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Over-the-air_programming | 18:50 |
| stinebd | http://southcape.org/2010/10/29/moving-towards-over-the-air-updates/ | 18:50 |
| TheDeadCPU | I've read that | 18:50 |
| TheDeadCPU | Didn't think it was working yet lol | 18:50 |
| TheDeadCPU | Charlie Sheen just got twitter... God help us all. | 18:56 |
| rpierce99 | is it verified, or someone trying to take advantage of the publicity | 18:57 |
| stinebd | does it really matter? | 18:58 |
| TheDeadCPU | He posted a picture | 18:58 |
| TheDeadCPU | It's him | 18:58 |
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| stinebd | i wish jb was on irc | 19:04 |
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| kanox | hey guys, was wondering if anyone else had any luck with google voice calling, it just disconnects when i try to make a call with it | 19:50 |
| rpierce99 | are you in the us | 19:50 |
| kanox | yeah | 19:50 |
| rpierce99 | do you have the north american dialing setting in your startup.txt? | 19:50 |
| kanox | ill have to double check, i dont beleive i do, what would i have to add if i didnt? thanks in advance for your advice | 19:51 |
| rpierce99 | north_am_dialing=1 in the cmdline section | 19:53 |
| rpierce99 | do you know how to edit your startup.txt? | 19:53 |
| kanox | yep, its not in there, ill have to add it | 19:53 |
| kanox | much appreciated rpierce99 | 19:53 |
| rpierce99 | assuming it works, you're welcome, if not, i'm stumped, so lets hope it works | 19:54 |
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| kanox | also on an unrelated note, would it help if i posted my ts calibration file from my raph800 for others to use? is there already a thread for that somewhere? | 19:56 |
| rpierce99 | i know arrrghhh was thinking of compiling ts-calibration files for the different devices, you could attach it to a post in his frx04 stable thread if you'd like | 19:57 |
| kanox | k, lol sorry for asking so much but would you have a link to the stable thread for easy access? | 19:57 |
| rpierce99 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951981 | 19:58 |
| rpierce99 | actually it looks like he attached a ts-calibration to the post already | 19:59 |
| rpierce99 | i'm not sure if that's for the raph though because he has a rhod | 19:59 |
| rpierce99 | oh the post says it's from a diam which should work for a raph | 19:59 |
| rpierce99 | so i guess you're off the hook | 19:59 |
| kanox | im under 10 posts so i cant post it, i guess that works lol thanks anyway and if you need it in the future i lurk on here sometimes, i check the logs about once every few days | 20:00 |
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| stinebd | heh i love posting restrictions based on post count | 20:12 |
| stinebd | it's like asking for spam or cruft | 20:12 |
| stinebd | lol the whole damn thing changed anyway | 20:17 |
| stinebd | because of switching build variant | 20:18 |
| stinebd | binary patch would've been like 40mb | 20:18 |
| kanox | does data just seem to die for anyone else randomly in gb? | 20:18 |
| rpierce99 | kanox: are you on the latest GB + rootfs? | 20:20 |
| kanox | yup totally updated | 20:20 |
| * rpierce99 is not running GB so has no idea | 20:20 | |
| kanox | i think you have the right idea rpierce99, im gonna go back to froyo for now till the bugs are worked out in gb, it was nice though ran fast stock | 20:21 |
| rpierce99 | stinebd: did you see that tiad8 says he's going to bring honeycomb to our TP2s, haha | 20:22 |
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| stinebd | FRX05 complete | 20:22 |
| rpierce99 | whoohoo | 20:22 |
| stinebd | still slower than gingerbread | 20:23 |
| * rpierce99 waits for the "but better than frx04" | 20:23 | |
| stinebd | uh maybe | 20:24 |
| stinebd | load-time jni checking is disabled but otherwise it's all the same | 20:24 |
| kanox | woot thanks rpierce99 for the google voice fix works like a charm | 20:25 |
| rpierce99 | is that the same as the build.prop modification | 20:25 |
| bzo | stinebd: the gb repo seems out of sync | 20:25 |
| rpierce99 | kanox: np glad it worked for ya | 20:25 |
| bzo | stinebd: the compilation error I'm getting is because MediaStore.java is out of date | 20:26 |
| stinebd | uh | 20:27 |
| bzo | I see you did a merge of frameworks/base recently, but this doesn't seem to have made it | 20:28 |
| stinebd | pretty sure that hasn't changed | 20:28 |
| bzo | I'm looking at the files directly on webui of the repos, android gb branch, and on gitorious | 20:29 |
| stinebd | did they do a merge in the past day? | 20:29 |
| bzo | no, not for a while | 20:30 |
| bzo | http://gitorious.org/xdandroid/frameworks_base/blobs/gingerbread/core/java/android/provider/MediaStore.java | 20:30 |
| stinebd | don't need links | 20:30 |
| bzo | at line 902, we're supposed to be seeing a COMPILATION field | 20:30 |
| stinebd | it's being pushed now | 20:31 |
| bzo | what was the problem? | 20:32 |
| stinebd | the upstream merge didn't get pushed apparently | 20:32 |
| stinebd | from the 2nd gingerbread release i made | 20:32 |
| bzo | ic, hopefully that's all that prevents me from building | 20:32 |
| stinebd | guess i better merge all the repos quick | 20:37 |
| bzo | building now, I'll let you know in a few minutes or days how it goes | 20:37 |
| bzo | damn spoke to soon, more errors | 20:38 |
| bzo | stinebd: you have more merges to push? | 20:41 |
| stinebd | yes | 20:41 |
| stinebd | pushed | 20:42 |
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| stinebd | wtf happened here | 21:06 |
| stinebd | google going crazy on gingerbread | 21:06 |
| stinebd | also why do notification programs not work on gingerbread anymore? | 21:06 |
| bzo | are you asking yourself? Because there is no one here that knows more than you about that :P | 21:07 |
| stinebd | i'm asking google | 21:07 |
| stinebd | eventually they'll index the log of this channel | 21:08 |
| bzo | and in about 10 years, when watson like AIs are reviewing logs, they might answer | 21:09 |
| stinebd | and then 20 years after that google will fix the bug | 21:09 |
| bzo | and we can enjoy gb in our old age | 21:09 |
| bzo | or perhaps our middle age | 21:09 |
| stinebd | i hope to be dead by then | 21:11 |
| stinebd | my dream is to be killed by an android | 21:11 |
| rpierce99 | you could go to the google campus and have someone tip over a statue on you | 21:12 |
| bzo | would you settle for being killed by a robot? real androids may be a ways off | 21:12 |
| stinebd | they're hollow | 21:12 |
| bzo | stinebd: still building, but looks like it's good now, thanks | 21:21 |
| stinebd | are you working on something in particular? | 21:22 |
| bzo | not yet, just getting a build env ready | 21:22 |
| bzo | may look at the gps stuff at some point | 21:22 |
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| bzo | gtg, ttyl | 21:24 |
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| stinebd | arrrghhh: frx05... | 21:25 |
| arrrghhh | Oo? | 21:25 |
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| arrrghhh | stinebd: ? | 21:32 |
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| stinebd | it's mirroring now | 21:33 |
| arrrghhh | what's in it? | 21:33 |
| stinebd | camera | 21:33 |
| arrrghhh | i imagine cam stuff | 21:33 |
| arrrghhh | anything else? | 21:33 |
| stinebd | checkjni off | 21:34 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 21:34 |
| arrrghhh | magic | 21:34 |
| arrrghhh | that it? | 21:34 |
| stinebd | yeah | 21:34 |
| arrrghhh | cool | 21:34 |
| arrrghhh | new bundle time | 21:34 |
| arrrghhh | so i guess cam in gb is giving you guys guff from lack of opencore? | 21:34 |
| stinebd | there are no codecs for msm7k | 21:35 |
| arrrghhh | sad | 21:35 |
| stinebd | at least not in qaep | 21:36 |
| stinebd | i don't know how cm would be doing things | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | with hacks | 21:36 |
| stinebd | i'll let jb worry about that | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | and madness | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | heh yea | 21:36 |
| stinebd | it takes pictures fine | 21:36 |
| stinebd | but mediaserver crashes constantly | 21:37 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 21:37 |
| rpierce99 | twitter sez frx05 :) | 21:40 |
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| arrrghhh | stinebd: tiad posted a gb build with working cam? | 21:58 |
| stinebd | so? | 21:58 |
| arrrghhh | but browser FC's and from the looks of it gapps are borked LOL | 21:58 |
| stinebd | that's why i'm the boss baby | 21:58 |
| arrrghhh | how did that bastard get cam to work? | 21:58 |
| stinebd | it's not hard | 21:58 |
| arrrghhh | o right | 21:58 |
| arrrghhh | you said it does work | 21:58 |
| arrrghhh | but media keeps FC'ing | 21:58 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:59 |
| arrrghhh | oh tiad8. | 21:59 |
| stinebd | video doesn't work | 21:59 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 21:59 |
| stinebd | i wonder which gingerbread rom he's using | 22:02 |
| stinebd | browser is probably crashing because of the lack of gps driver | 22:03 |
| odz | "GUYS THIS BUILD IS FROM G1 "EZTERRY" " | 22:07 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 22:08 |
| stinebd | how did he manage to break gapps with it then? | 22:08 |
| arrrghhh | it's tiad | 22:09 |
| arrrghhh | how does he manage to breathe | 22:09 |
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| rpierce99 | stinebd: did you intentionally leave the link out of your post on XDA? I was going to post the link to southcape but didn't want to overload it if you wanted to wait to post it on xdandroid | 22:15 |
| stinebd | rpierce99: yes i did | 22:16 |
| stinebd | err | 22:16 |
| stinebd | no i didn't | 22:16 |
| stinebd | whatever i did was the opposite of what i meant | 22:16 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:17 |
| rpierce99 | do you prefer linking to the post or just to the file | 22:17 |
| stinebd | file | 22:17 |
| stinebd | i'm editing the posts now | 22:17 |
| rpierce99 | oh ok | 22:18 |
| rpierce99 | you can't delete posts on xda? | 22:18 |
| stinebd | probably can | 22:18 |
| stinebd | why? | 22:19 |
| rpierce99 | i was going to remove mine | 22:19 |
| stinebd | just hit the report post button and say it's porn or something | 22:20 |
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| arrrghhh | stinebd: wtf is a RAPH300 | 22:25 |
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| stinebd | 3 raph100s taped together | 22:25 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 22:25 |
| arrrghhh | i've never heard of it | 22:25 |
| arrrghhh | don't have any startup.txt's for it. | 22:25 |
| arrrghhh | tmobile MDA something something dark side | 22:26 |
| stinebd | did i type that somewhere? | 22:26 |
| stinebd | oh | 22:26 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 22:26 |
| arrrghhh | dude sent me 3 pm's about it today | 22:26 |
| stinebd | i thought if it was something i did i probably meant rhod300 | 22:26 |
| stinebd | ok goodnight i'll have gingerbread tomorrow maybe | 22:27 |
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| arrrghhh | LOL | 22:28 |
| arrrghhh | http://pdadb.net/imageview.php?file=mda_vario_iv.jpg | 22:28 |
| arrrghhh | buttons are all reversed. | 22:28 |
| arrrghhh | ah g'nite stine. | 22:28 |
| lophat | Howdy ho fellers...what's the noob scoop of the day? | 22:29 |
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| arrrghhh | you | 22:33 |
| arrrghhh | sucking wind | 22:33 |
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| lophat | everyone's snoozin'? | 22:46 |
| arrrghhh | this isn't a chat room. | 22:48 |
| arrrghhh | this room is for support. do you have a question? | 22:48 |
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| lophat | lol. it says chat up top | 22:49 |
| lophat | hello my name is Lincoln, may i help you? | 22:49 |
| lophat | :-) | 22:49 |
| arrrghhh | Official XDAndroid project discussion and support channel. | 22:50 |
| lophat | anyway, thanks for the offer arrrghhh ... | 22:50 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 22:51 |
| lophat | anyway, what are the common files between GBX and FRX? | 22:51 |
| arrrghhh | everything but the system image and the user.conf | 22:51 |
| lophat | oh. thanks. | 22:53 |
| lophat | why did the kernel cross the road? | 22:56 |
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| lophat | Because the RHOD was nice! | 23:00 |
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