Monday, 2011-02-28

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manekinekohey arrrghhh, just a heads up, you were right, my problems with the sensor were due to not being on the latest rootfs00:25
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arrrghhhmanekineko: technically stine is right, but yea. :P01:19
odzarrrghhh i take it testing of the new WisTilt2 kernel didnt go so good01:33
arrrghhhfixed now01:33
arrrghhhposting it soon01:33
odznice01:33
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kanoxhey guys, prolly a noob question but isnt most of the hardware on the vogue pretty close to our rhodiums and raphaels? would it make it much easier to use some of that work as a reference toward our devices?02:28
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MassStashthat what it is kanox, that was quite possibly the worst noob Q i've heard in the last week haha02:54
MassStashgood idea tho bro02:54
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kanoxhey just askin, it wasnt supposed to sound as noob as it did lmao but what i was trying to get at is the vogue is pretty much done with, the hardware seems to be pretty close to what we have with the raphs and the rhods, is there some kind of translation miscommunication where we arent as far as the vogue is? its just a question03:14
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Mario__hey who wants to help me out?04:40
Mario__so i have tmobile and im running xandroid but my phone only picks up  voicestream wireless04:42
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Mario__??04:43
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nck20goodmorning guys05:05
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nck20is there someone who's actually online??07:12
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fleischwolfHow can I erase my data on the Android system on my HTC Diamond?08:48
fleischwolfWhen I reset the data under "Privacy" "Factory Data Reset" the phone restarts, but when I select Android there is an error message and I have to reinstall Dualboot and Haret. Then when I restart it all my data is still there!08:49
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MassStashany progress thus far made in rhod nand was solely from/because of vogue nand bro...08:59
MassStashkanox08:59
MassStashlike, what your thinking is what they already did....09:00
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lama_hi09:55
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xdandroidNew kernel available (20110228_193144) at http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20110228_193144-package.tar.bz213:42
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xdandroidNew kernel available (20110228_202832) at http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20110228_202832-package.tar.bz214:37
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sexiestManAlivehi folks14:38
Akscool14:55
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sexiestManAliveWhat is CDMA touch diamon? is CDMA just another radio technique?15:21
eval-yes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_division_multiple_access15:30
eval-if you're in germany, you're on GSM.  your HTC's is not CMDA15:30
sexiestManAlivethanks15:33
sexiestManAlivedo I have to do anythinh special for xdandroid on HTC touch diamond (GSM), which is not descibed in this manual:15:34
sexiestManAlivehttp://xdandroid.com/wiki/Installation_Guide#References15:34
sexiestManAlive?15:34
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eval-pick the right startup file for haret15:36
sexiestManAlivethats all?15:36
eval-there should be some sort of force_cdma=0 in it15:37
Aksno market in GB?15:37
eval-sexiestManAlive: i believe that's all.  i set mine up on O2 DE ages ago.  my phone is dual gsm / cdma (from US) and i had no trouble switching back and forth15:37
sexiestManAliveok, I should mention, that I read that I should disable the pin authorization. Is that right? That article was a bit older,15:37
sexiestManAliveI think about a year or so15:38
eval-i enter in my o2 sim pin15:38
sexiestManAliveok, nice15:38
eval-i remember it was found that the pin AT lines were no good but that was fixed a long time ago15:38
sexiestManAlivenice15:38
eval-thank stinebd mostly if i recall correctly, and some poor saps from wisconsin and italy who tested it15:39
sexiestManAliveone question before I start deploying: I heard that there should be a ROM or something similiar now, with which I can replace Windows monile completely15:39
sexiestManAlivebut the wiki sais something else15:39
sexiestManAlivewhats correct?15:40
eval-sexiestManAlive: i have no idea.  i highly doubt they have a full nand install but i've been out of touch for months, moved to germany, new job, not speaking anything... was tethering for internet on top of that all so i haven't followed at all.. you prolly know better than me.  check xda-developers.com and stinebd's blog15:40
sexiestManAliveok, thanks. and welcome to germany!15:43
eval-haha danke15:43
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Eodunhi...17:20
Eodunanyone can confirm that camera is fully commited in last autobuild kernel?17:20
bzoyes17:23
Eodunthanks!17:23
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stinebdsigh17:49
stinebdi wish we had enough donations every month to rent a rack or something17:49
stinebdgitorious drives me crazy17:50
bzostinebd: do you have some gb changes that aren't pushed yet?17:51
stinebdyes17:52
stinebdif you're testing camera, it's a bionic change17:53
stinebdi'll push it as soon as gitorious gets their asses together and actually creates the repository17:53
bzonah, just poking around and noticed some stuff seemed to be missing some expected changes17:53
stinebdwhat else?17:53
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stinebdthe stuff in vendor/ we can't use for gingerbread17:54
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bzostinebd: what do you think about putting out a FRX04A with updated camera libs?18:12
bzoor maybe we just the need an update pack?18:13
rpierce99bzo: is it just libs? I know in the cam testing thread there were changes to haret and initrd as well18:14
bzorpierce99: those are not needed for the glemsom kernel18:15
stinebdthis is gonna be a long night18:16
rpierce99bzo: great, was hoping all that wasn't going to be necessary after it was committed18:16
bzorpierce99: has to do more with compile env than code18:17
rpierce99oh ok18:17
bzothe 2nd most recent glemsom kernel needs haret/initrd changes18:18
stinebdinitrd changes?18:18
bzojust where it is loaded in memory18:18
stinebddon't scare me like that18:18
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eval-if i make up some nonsense for TARGET_BOARD_PLATFORM, will everything break?  this is an arm926 (on marvell pxa168 platform)... it compiled and ran with := msm7k but that's well, not true18:29
eval-do i have to have a populated tree in hardware/ equiv to PLATFORM ?18:31
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stinebdeval-: you don't have to. you can make up whatever you want for TARGET_BOARD_PLATFORM as long as your required drivers (if any) know that they should build with that platform20:08
eval-thats what i figured20:08
eval-so it seems the 2.2.2_r1 branch has issues (it can break the xda build too) ...  * No rule to make target `out/target/common/obj/JAVA_LIBRARIES/android-common_intermediates/javalib.jar', needed by `out/target/common/obj/APPS/Browser_intermediates/classes-full-debug.jar'.  Stop.20:12
eval-also, it seems better to keep the qemu and sdk to something older than froyo-plus-aosp or they have issues too20:13
eval-i dunno wtf i was thinking, what could possibly be 'improved' in 2.2.2 over 2.2.1 that would be worth this sort of nonsense20:13
eval-ok tomorrow's all froyo so i can finally get to some real bugs20:19
eval-nite nite20:19
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stinebdFRX05 you so silly20:32
stinebdwith your cameras and your... nothing else20:32
rpierce99stinebd: adding camera will get you more action that all of your other FRXs combined20:33
arrrghhhmore action?20:34
arrrghhhas in he's going to get laid because of it?20:34
rpierce99absolutely20:34
stinebdhah20:34
rpierce99we even had a girl in IRC the other day, supposedly20:34
arrrghhhtiad8 can quit kanging jb's work.20:34
arrrghhhrpierce99: lol20:34
stinebdarrrghhh: i had a crazy idea on the way home from work20:34
stinebda POLL20:35
stinebdfor how to layout the rhod keypad20:35
stinebdxda does polls right?20:35
arrrghhhyes20:35
arrrghhhwhat do you mean tho how to layout20:35
stinebdand whoever wins20:35
stinebdwe don't use20:35
arrrghhhlmao20:35
rpierce99home/end/power layout i assume20:36
stinebdyes that20:36
stinebdwhich part of that was unclear?20:36
arrrghhhoh right.20:36
stinebdeffin noob20:36
arrrghhhlol20:36
stinebdalso go back to your vacation20:36
arrrghhhhey, i'm on vaca.  my mind is elsewhere.20:36
arrrghhh:D20:36
arrrghhhanyhoo, what about F22's fixes20:36
arrrghhhseems giving an option would be the best way to go about it20:36
stinebdyes F221 what about them20:36
arrrghhhbecause no matter what we choose, someone will be unhappy20:36
arrrghhhsince when did he change to F221?  i don't deal well with changes.20:37
stinebdch ch ch changes turn and face the strain20:37
arrrghhhheh20:37
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rpierce99arrrghhh: video works for you?22:02
arrrghhhvideo as in...?22:03
rpierce99the video camera22:03
arrrghhhon jb's stuff yes22:03
arrrghhhhaven't tested it on anything else22:03
rpierce99hm, camcorder is FCing on me, even with the 8 bajillion userland libs mounted22:03
arrrghhhwistilt2 put up a new kernel pack, supposed to be up to date with autobuild22:04
arrrghhhbut i can't get cam to work at all.22:04
arrrghhhlol22:04
rpierce99cam works for me with that one + userland libs22:04
arrrghhhhrm22:04
arrrghhhi should double check to make sure i'm mounting all that crap22:04
arrrghhhi should still be...22:04
rpierce99yeah i'm mounting everything even the gralloc and libgles which shouldn't need to be with frx04 but i figure it can't hurt :)22:05
arrrghhhheh22:05
arrrghhhi'll just blame it on that.22:05
arrrghhhfawkin phone won't sleep either22:06
arrrghhhi think it might be time for a new data.img22:06
rpierce99HQ youtube is kinda working, haha, it's choppy22:07
arrrghhhOo22:07
rpierce99but really who cares22:07
arrrghhhi've never gotten that crap to work.22:07
arrrghhhhq youtooobs would be schweet22:07
rpierce99on that small screen i can't tell the diff22:07
arrrghhhno joke?22:08
arrrghhhit's a HUGE difference.22:08
arrrghhhimho22:08
rpierce99well it's never worked well for me, so the difference is HQ is choppy :)22:08
odzlooks like some dude is close to figureing out mms22:27
arrrghhhlol22:27
arrrghhhi'll believe it when i see it.22:27
arrrghhhi can send MMS all day22:27
odzhttp://forum.ppcgeeks.com/tp2-android-development/141273-how-do-you-change-mcc-mnc-froyo-blazin-2.html22:27
odz^^22:27
arrrghhhprobably some RIL crap again22:27
arrrghhhfor receiving22:28
arrrghhhodz: several have said that before.22:30
arrrghhhthat's another feature that i never use...22:30
arrrghhhheh, i don't really do anything22:30
odzsnmp just posted he got it to work22:30
arrrghhhi just want a functional RIL22:30
rpierce99arrrghhh: you need to start sexting22:30
arrrghhhodz: with no information.22:30
arrrghhhrpierce99: do you just post things to piss me off?  lol22:30
rpierce99arrrghhh: yes, took you this long to figure that out22:30
arrrghhhno22:31
arrrghhhi knew it from the whole angry birds thing.22:31
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arrrghhhjust can't figure out why22:31
arrrghhhpretty sure i didn't burn your house down.22:31
rpierce99nah i'm a sarcastic SOB in person22:32
arrrghhhman if mms is a simple mcc and mnc that would be hilarious.22:32
bear_weird question is there a way to spoof what the device is for the market, for example I was looking for the flash plugin for my rhod500 with the froyo2.2 w/ the 2/2x files installed could not find it via the on the phone market but found it online but still would not let it install had to download the .apk and drop it on the phone and install it22:32
arrrghhhflash doesn't work22:33
arrrghhhdon't even try22:33
rpierce99bear_ when you did that did it work?22:33
bear_just finished installing, I could try... lol22:33
arrrghhhi heard it's pretty shitty on native android devices.22:33
rpierce99bear_: the reason it doesn't show up is because it is not supposed to work with our hardware, some have claimed it to be working for them, i have yet to see it22:34
arrrghhhi heard flash sucks on the n122:34
bear_Ya droid market from the pc does not recognise what the phone is thought that might be why its blocked from the market22:34
arrrghhhwhy would it work well on our hardware?22:34
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rpierce99i don't need it to work well, it would be nice if it worked a little :)22:35
arrrghhhso you could see all those banner ads...?22:35
arrrghhhlol22:35
bear_my buddy just bought the Evo 4g, checking right now to see if its working, he says it works pretty well22:35
rpierce99arrrghhh: i've told you this before, playOn22:35
arrrghhhlol22:36
arrrghhhthat'll work REAL well on our phones i'm sure22:36
rpierce99you think youtube HQ will work!22:36
arrrghhhmeh22:36
arrrghhhit has before22:36
arrrghhhdon't see why it won't again.22:37
rpierce99exactly, so hd video works, but not the sd video i want? where is your logic sir22:37
arrrghhhsd video works...22:37
arrrghhhworks great in fact22:37
bear_lol, now my web browser does not want to stay open22:37
arrrghhhjust looks like poop22:37
rpierce99bear_: home page probably trying to load flash, dies22:38
bear_what is the best multiformat video player for android I used to use core for the winmo and another that I would have to lookup the name22:38
bear_its the default homepage,22:38
bear_lol,22:38
bear_no error just closes22:39
bear_looks like i will be uninstalling the flash 10.1 beta22:41
bear_l:-(22:43
rpierce99arrrghhh: have you had any luck with cam on that kernel22:44
arrrghhhnot yet22:44
arrrghhhdamnit i was supposed to check my user.conf22:46
arrrghhhoh well22:46
arrrghhhlol reboot to winmo22:47
arrrghhhthat makes it easy...22:47
rpierce99haha22:48
arrrghhhman pieces in android are falling together like crazy22:49
arrrghhhreally need to redo the RIL... hoping wistilt2's radio programmer can fix it up22:49
arrrghhhah.  user.conf didn't have all the libs bind mounted.22:51
bear_Now setting this all up and getting it all working, other than having linux/unix experience is there a specific programming language you need to work on modding droid for other platforms22:51
bear_Stupid question I know but please humor me,22:52
arrrghhhC22:52
rpierce99kernel is c, userland is java and c++ i think22:52
arrrghhhjava22:52
arrrghhhlittle bit of c++22:52
arrrghhhasm if you really want to know how the stuff works22:52
bear_will keep that in mind when I go back to school22:53
arrrghhhmobile device programming isn't really like any other type of programming...22:53
arrrghhhjust fyi.22:53
bear_really?, figured it be the same, what are some of the biggest differences22:53
arrrghhhuhm... no docs22:53
arrrghhhcrazy unique hardware22:53
arrrghhhand... no docs.22:54
bear_what do you mean no docs, like no whitpages/documentation or ?22:54
arrrghhhhtc doesn't provide any documentation on how their crap works22:54
arrrghhhneither does qualcomm22:54
arrrghhhetc22:55
arrrghhhspecs, how stuff is supposed to work, etc.22:55
arrrghhhrpierce99: after i did everything correctly, cam/video record work flawlessly.22:58
rpierce99hmmmm22:59
arrrghhhwtf still not sleeping.22:59
arrrghhh:/22:59
arrrghhhhrm.  other than that, new kernel from him is great...23:00
rpierce99are there other text edits besided the mount binds necessary?23:01
arrrghhhln -s23:01
rpierce99well yeah, mount binds for the first few, ln -s for the last few23:01
odzworks for gb too?23:02
arrrghhhdunno23:03
arrrghhhon froyo23:03
rpierce99arrrghhh: youtube hq?23:03
arrrghhhlet me try it23:05
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arrrghhhlol i can't even get sd to work.23:10
arrrghhhlet me try thru the browser23:10
arrrghhhyou'd think it would work better thru the app...23:10
odzthats disappointing23:11
arrrghhhi guess i should try on wifi too23:12
arrrghhhso far just on 3g23:12
rpierce99i was on 3g, but i guess it's going to depend on connection23:12
arrrghhhindeed23:12
arrrghhhit *should* work on either, i would think23:12
arrrghhhi wonder if my data cxn is just crap up here23:13
arrrghhhi can't get SD to work23:13
arrrghhhthere we go23:13
arrrghhhjust took forever23:13
arrrghhhyea hq video is status quo23:15
arrrghhhi'll try it on wifi real quick23:15
arrrghhhyea the reason i say hq looks so much better23:16
arrrghhhyou can skip ahead and get a frozen frame of the video23:16
arrrghhhwith audio continuing23:16
arrrghhh(same on wifi btw)23:16
arrrghhhthat frozen still looks SO much better than the SD video...23:16
arrrghhhi'm really confused... why the hell doesn't this kernel sleep23:17
arrrghhhguess i need to revert23:17
arrrghhhdamnit rpierce9923:18
odzdid u do a new data.img?23:19
arrrghhhah yea i was supposed to try that too.23:19
arrrghhhdamnit.  i'm really out of my element :P23:19
odz:P23:19
rpierce99what did i do?23:20
arrrghhhthat post in mah testing thread :P23:21
rpierce99i was setting you up man, i was playing the role of the wingman23:21
arrrghhhlol wingman.23:22
rpierce99gotta build some hype23:22
* arrrghhh doesn't need no stinking wingman23:22
arrrghhhuh huh, tiad8.23:22
rpierce99we could learn a little bit from tiad23:22
arrrghhhdamnit jim23:22
arrrghhhthere's a reason we make fun of that fool so much.23:22
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arrrghhhi guess i can try cam on gb23:22
arrrghhhjust to see23:22
rpierce99hey, we're not saying we're going to do something that we can't possibly do23:22
arrrghhhheh that's true.23:23
arrrghhhWE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO TAP INTO HIS CHARISMA23:23
arrrghhhHIS... JE NE SAIS QUOI23:23
R^7Zstinebdi wish we had enough donations every month to rent a rack or something23:24
arrrghhhheh23:25
R^7Zhave anything in mind?23:25
arrrghhhbut why23:25
R^7Zi was thinking about donating again...23:25
arrrghhhwhat do you mean 'rent a rack'?23:25
arrrghhhxdandroid.com not fast enough for you?  :P23:25
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R^7Zi was more responding to what he was saying earlier23:26
R^7Zsorry...23:26
R^7Zdoing my daily digest of log reading... :p23:26
arrrghhhi guess i missed it23:26
arrrghhhguess i should try all the youtoobs crap in gb too23:28
arrrghhhso what did i miss R^7Z?23:28
R^7Zdunno, still reading :p23:29
R^7Zthats as far as i had gotten23:29
R^7Zconvo doesn't really pick up till after 1700hrs or so....23:29
arrrghhhno cam on gb23:30
arrrghhhjb said something about opencore not being in gb23:30
R^7Zchea...23:30
R^7Zkinda figured when it said something about "cannot connect to camera"23:33
R^7Z:p23:33
arrrghhhlol23:33
arrrghhhyea23:33
arrrghhhodz was asking if i was testing cam in froyo or gb.23:33
odzaww man :(23:33
R^7Zim pretty sure cam was being dev'd in froyo... not sure what that means for gb though...23:33
arrrghhhi just said why it doesn't work...23:33
arrrghhhrpierce99: look at what you've started.23:33
rpierce99i aint gone and started nuttin23:33
arrrghhhcheck my testing thread23:33
arrrghhhyou bastage23:33
rpierce99psh that's nothing, ignore it, it'll help build the suspense23:33
arrrghhhlol23:34
arrrghhhgo play some angry birds23:34
arrrghhh:P23:35
rpierce99oooh deep burn23:35
arrrghhhheh23:35
arrrghhhlol23:35
arrrghhhyoutube crashes my browser in gb23:35
R^7Znice23:35
arrrghhhi don't seem to have a youtube app in gb23:36
arrrghhhi guess that was pulled from gapps?  was that even a part of gapps?23:36
rpierce99it was part of xdandroid, don't think it's part of the proprietary gapps package23:37
arrrghhhhuh23:37
arrrghhhoh well23:37
arrrghhhi found it on the market23:37
arrrghhhwe'll see if it works23:37
arrrghhhit was one of the featured apps on the market23:38
arrrghhhlike google just f-ing KNEW why i came there.23:38
rpierce99they did, they are watching every move you make, even in IRC23:38
arrrghhhnice23:39
arrrghhhi'd rather google be watching me23:39
arrrghhhthan m$23:39
rpierce99agreed23:39
arrrghhhHQ status quo23:40
arrrghhhin gb23:40
arrrghhhwith app23:40
arrrghhh:(23:40
arrrghhhdoesn't sleep in gb either23:41
rpierce99i get movement, it's not fast, but it moves23:41
arrrghhhare you running this kernel rpierce99?  can you sleep?23:41
arrrghhhi just get a frozen frame23:41
arrrghhhare you oc'd?23:41
arrrghhhi don't get why it would work for you and not me...23:41
rpierce99running kernel: yes, sleep: it has been, but at the moment it's not, OC: no23:42
arrrghhhdamnit jim.23:42
arrrghhhi guess i'll go back to froyo23:42
arrrghhhnew data.img23:42
arrrghhhsee if it's any different.23:42
rpierce99i'm going to pull dmesg and see what's locking wake23:42
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rpierce99ruh roh, i think i'm in lag-city again23:44
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arrrghhhuser error23:46
arrrghhhman my laptop is on fire23:46
rpierce99END CALL triggered without being in a call!23:46
rpierce99This really shouldn't happen23:46
rpierce99lol23:46
arrrghhheh, that should happen.23:46
arrrghhh:P23:46
arrrghhhwistilt2 put that in there23:46
arrrghhhhasn't really done much to track it down tho.23:46
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arrrghhhdamn reboots to winmo.23:51
arrrghhhreally want to squash those23:51
odz:(23:52
rpierce99damn i wish WisTilt2 was around23:54
rpierce99I'm in the lag state again for sure23:54
arrrghhhhrm23:54
rpierce99end button isn't working23:54
rpierce99took like a minute for the phone to detect the usb cable was unplugged and get rid of the usb debug icons23:54
arrrghhheh, all sounds normal.23:55
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rpierce99plugged it in about a minute ago, still waiting for it to detect usb23:57
arrrghhh^^23:57
rpierce99still waiting23:57
arrrghhhstill not sleeping23:57
arrrghhhfresh data.img23:57
arrrghhh:(23:57
rpierce99camera mounts?23:58
rpierce99you should dmesg and find what wake locks you have23:59
rpierce99usb connected! halfway there!23:59

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