| arrrghhh | i don't get this in froyo. can i calibrate the gsensor? | 00:00 |
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| R^7Z | doh! still got the landscape issue | 00:00 |
| arrrghhh | /noob | 00:00 |
| arrrghhh | R^7Z: ? | 00:00 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't think RAPH suffered from that | 00:00 |
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| R^7Z | kdy kcik out sticks in landscape | 00:01 |
| arrrghhh | kdy kcik? | 00:01 |
| R^7Z | when i keyboard is kicked out | 00:01 |
| R^7Z | sorry stupid drunk typing | 00:01 |
| R^7Z | :p | 00:01 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 00:01 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't get that | 00:01 |
| R^7Z | lemme reboot | 00:02 |
| manekineko | wow graphics performance is friggin incredible | 00:02 |
| manekineko | on this new GB build | 00:03 |
| arrrghhh | in neocore? | 00:03 |
| manekineko | no, in actual use | 00:03 |
| manekineko | OpenTyrian runs on FRX with sound off/music off detail low with major lagging | 00:03 |
| arrrghhh | faster than the last one? | 00:03 |
| arrrghhh | i mean gb to gb | 00:03 |
| manekineko | it's running on GRX with sound on/music on details max with almost no lag | 00:03 |
| manekineko | I think it might be | 00:03 |
| arrrghhh | lies | 00:03 |
| manekineko | I got good performance last time, but I didn't manage to turn up all the settings | 00:03 |
| R^7Z | booting back into android, gotta luv that dualboot option! :D | 00:04 |
| manekineko | is it my imagination or is the keyboard much larger now | 00:09 |
| R^7Z | alright going to try a new data.img... the landscape is still sticking when keyboard it kicked out | 00:09 |
| manekineko | he didn't even mention that in his changes | 00:09 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko: yea that was being tweaked. | 00:09 |
| arrrghhh | easter egg man | 00:10 |
| arrrghhh | gotta have a few. | 00:10 |
| arrrghhh | like the self-destruct | 00:10 |
| manekineko | lol | 00:10 |
| arrrghhh | but perhaps i've said too much | 00:10 |
| manekineko | what is the 3D gallery supposed to look like? | 00:11 |
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| odzzz | ;/ i cant get it to boot | 00:11 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko: ...? | 00:11 |
| manekineko | nevermind, looked it up on Youtube, the gallery is indeed 3d now I ugess | 00:12 |
| manekineko | *guess | 00:13 |
| arrrghhh | does that mean picasa websync will work again stinebd? | 00:13 |
| R^7Z | odzzz you are using the gb packaged build, correct? | 00:13 |
| manekineko | is the accelerometer working for you guys? | 00:14 |
| R^7Z | not as of late | 00:14 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko: yes | 00:14 |
| R^7Z | :/ | 00:14 |
| arrrghhh | but it's flaky as i noted above | 00:14 |
| manekineko | hmm odd, doesn't seem to be doing much here | 00:14 |
| odzzz | R^7Z yep | 00:14 |
| R^7Z | updated rootfs and kernel package? | 00:15 |
| R^7Z | not the most up-to-date rootfs though | 00:15 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 00:15 |
| R^7Z | :p | 00:15 |
| manekineko | oh yeah, missed you talking about it above | 00:15 |
| odzzz | which? im getting data crc errors | 00:15 |
| R^7Z | rootfs-20110210-2cb7ec0.zip | 00:15 |
| odzzz | failed to mount /sdcard | 00:15 |
| R^7Z | that one should be "working" | 00:16 |
| R^7Z | hmmm... which device you got? | 00:16 |
| arrrghhh | odzzz: what kernel | 00:16 |
| manekineko | arrrghhh, what app you use to test accelerometer? stock launcher? | 00:16 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko: browser & gmail | 00:16 |
| arrrghhh | didn't really "test" it per se | 00:16 |
| arrrghhh | just acting funny | 00:17 |
| odzzz | htc-msm-linux-20110222_203532-package.tar.bz2 | 00:17 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 00:18 |
| manekineko | odd, I'm getting no rotation whatsoever | 00:18 |
| arrrghhh | you're going to make me work for this aren't you | 00:18 |
| manekineko | and no response from accelerometer based games | 00:18 |
| R^7Z | no logs? | 00:18 |
| arrrghhh | startup.txt? | 00:18 |
| R^7Z | :p | 00:18 |
| arrrghhh | odzzz: that kernel should fix the waiting for SD issue | 00:19 |
| arrrghhh | have you booted gb before? | 00:19 |
| R^7Z | arrrghhh: i thought so too... | 00:19 |
| odzzz | was running froyo so i wiped everything and decided to start fresh | 00:19 |
| arrrghhh | odzzz: ok | 00:19 |
| odzzz | kk i got it | 00:21 |
| arrrghhh | what was it? | 00:22 |
| odzzz | user error i coped the wrong kernel | 00:23 |
| odzzz | copied* | 00:23 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:23 |
| arrrghhh | ic | 00:23 |
| odzzz | would WisTilt2's kernel work with this build? | 00:24 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 00:24 |
| arrrghhh | running it now in fact :D | 00:24 |
| odzzz | nice | 00:24 |
| odzzz | i cant wait for gb + nand | 00:24 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 00:24 |
| arrrghhh | some devs don't seem to be fans of NAND. | 00:25 |
| manekineko | with the new cleaned up boot image, when Android decides not to boot for no apparent reason, there's no text on the screen at all now hehe | 00:25 |
| odzzz | why not? | 00:25 |
| manekineko | just a penguin sitting in the top left | 00:25 |
| arrrghhh | which sucks, i was hoping it would drum up more dev interest. | 00:25 |
| arrrghhh | odzzz: risk. plus, some people use these phones for work. | 00:25 |
| jonpry | and its slow, and small :p | 00:25 |
| arrrghhh | it's easy to just reboot to winmo | 00:25 |
| arrrghhh | with flashing, it's not so easy. | 00:25 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry: slow? | 00:25 |
| jonpry | yeah, sd is just nand chip with a hardware controller | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | definitely not slow. | 00:26 |
| R^7Z | okay... it finally went past the waiting on sd card situation i had after i deleted data.img | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 00:26 |
| R^7Z | had to reboot though... :/ | 00:26 |
| jonpry | we did tests, raw speed way faster on sd | 00:26 |
| R^7Z | random occurance? | 00:26 |
| R^7Z | even on class 2? | 00:27 |
| R^7Z | ;) | 00:27 |
| jonpry | imho the imgs inside of fat are a really bad idea though | 00:27 |
| jonpry | well on class 2, your read might still be through the rough | 00:27 |
| R^7Z | so above class 4 is "better"? | 00:27 |
| jonpry | random write will suck, but even sequential writes on class 2 might be faster than nand | 00:28 |
| R^7Z | interesting | 00:28 |
| manekineko | working USB and non-corrupting of SD cards with random errors will be nice however | 00:28 |
| jonpry | *roof | 00:28 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry: well running NAND it didn't feel any slower. | 00:28 |
| arrrghhh | plus, less drain | 00:28 |
| arrrghhh | no more SD card errors | 00:29 |
| jonpry | yeah cause everything is a ramdisk these days | 00:29 |
| arrrghhh | actual usb mass storage | 00:29 |
| jonpry | i would like to make a build with properly formatted sd. and nilfs :p | 00:29 |
| arrrghhh | properly formatted SD? | 00:30 |
| manekineko | arrrghhh, for this latest build, did you restart from a clean data.img? | 00:31 |
| jonpry | different partitions for /system and /data, no loopback devices | 00:31 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko: no but i haven't done much on gb so my data.img was already 'clean' | 00:31 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry: ah. yea some have said that does work better. especially having separate /data. | 00:32 |
| manekineko | hmm, rebooted and recalibrated gsensor in WinMo, still no accelerometer | 00:32 |
| manekineko | oh well, I'm not big on that thing anyway, hopefully it's just me | 00:32 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko: you never answered my question. | 00:32 |
| manekineko | you asked a question? | 00:32 |
| manekineko | heh | 00:32 |
| arrrghhh | startup.txt? | 00:32 |
| arrrghhh | kinda important for g-sensor to work. | 00:32 |
| manekineko | oh missed it | 00:32 |
| arrrghhh | cuz i hit browswer | 00:33 |
| arrrghhh | browser | 00:33 |
| arrrghhh | and it works flawlessly | 00:33 |
| arrrghhh | actually works really well | 00:33 |
| arrrghhh | responds very quickly | 00:33 |
| manekineko | http://pastebin.com/Xd6Dmk8U | 00:33 |
| R^7Z | ***stock launcher works/rotates back to portrait from landscape properly and relatively quick*** | 00:33 |
| R^7Z | had to delete older data.img | 00:34 |
| manekineko | oh so it didn't work for you until you deleted your old data.img? | 00:34 |
| R^7Z | yup | 00:34 |
| arrrghhh | did you not read stine's post manekineko | 00:34 |
| R^7Z | but then again | 00:34 |
| arrrghhh | i think that's the right gsensor setting | 00:35 |
| arrrghhh | holy fawk OC tho dude. | 00:35 |
| arrrghhh | damnit | 00:35 |
| arrrghhh | this doesn't sleep fast anymore :( | 00:35 |
| odzzz | if you start a app in landscape mode it doesnt rotate back to portrait mode when u close the keyboard ;/ | 00:35 |
| manekineko | stine's post on what? | 00:35 |
| manekineko | I think I've read all his posts | 00:35 |
| manekineko | yeah, I tested it a bunch, and mine seems pretty stable at that OC | 00:35 |
| arrrghhh | don't report any issues until you've at least tried a new data.img. | 00:35 |
| jonpry | 744 is high? | 00:36 |
| manekineko | oh ya, I'm not reporting it as an issue | 00:36 |
| manekineko | I totally bet a new data.img will fix it | 00:36 |
| manekineko | I'm not too concerned if it's just me | 00:36 |
| manekineko | I don't use it much anyway | 00:36 |
| arrrghhh | odzzz: does for me | 00:36 |
| odzzz | <-- is running new data.img | 00:36 |
| arrrghhh | odzzz: what app? just tried in GV | 00:36 |
| odzzz | market | 00:37 |
| R^7Z | ow... i see what hes saying | 00:37 |
| arrrghhh | works for me | 00:38 |
| R^7Z | i just started gallery in landscape | 00:38 |
| odzzz | also installing apps from market dont seem to work | 00:38 |
| R^7Z | and when i close the keyboard it sticks | 00:38 |
| odzzz | it just stays at installing | 00:38 |
| arrrghhh | lol that worked for me as well odzzz | 00:38 |
| R^7Z | havent made it that far | 00:38 |
| arrrghhh | i installed tb, then restored | 00:38 |
| R^7Z | however | 00:38 |
| R^7Z | i was able to get back to portrait after i get out of gallery | 00:39 |
| odzzz | yep | 00:39 |
| R^7Z | crap! | 00:39 |
| R^7Z | it even does it if you start it in portrait | 00:39 |
| R^7Z | switch to landscape | 00:39 |
| R^7Z | then back to portrait | 00:39 |
| R^7Z | blah | 00:40 |
| R^7Z | glad i never use landscape | 00:40 |
| R^7Z | :D | 00:40 |
| arrrghhh | i don't get it | 00:40 |
| arrrghhh | why is everything working for me | 00:40 |
| arrrghhh | you all suck. | 00:40 |
| R^7Z | but ofc | 00:40 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:40 |
| arrrghhh | here's an awesome question | 00:41 |
| R^7Z | green | 00:41 |
| arrrghhh | what is the "auto-rotate screen" setting in display | 00:41 |
| R^7Z | checked for me | 00:41 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 00:42 |
| arrrghhh | i dunno | 00:42 |
| arrrghhh | works great for me. | 00:42 |
| arrrghhh | open app in portrait | 00:42 |
| arrrghhh | landscape | 00:42 |
| arrrghhh | doesn't matter | 00:42 |
| arrrghhh | kbd open | 00:42 |
| arrrghhh | closed | 00:42 |
| odzzz | bleh | 00:42 |
| arrrghhh | etc | 00:42 |
| odzzz | maybe its the kernel your running | 00:42 |
| arrrghhh | before it used to stick in landscape, but it doesn't anymore. | 00:42 |
| arrrghhh | lol i doubt it, but i guess that's possible. | 00:42 |
| manekineko | I'm on the latest kernel arrrghhh posted | 00:43 |
| R^7Z | uhhhh guys | 00:43 |
| arrrghhh | wistilt2 kernel? | 00:43 |
| manekineko | ya | 00:43 |
| arrrghhh | same. | 00:43 |
| R^7Z | its working now | 00:43 |
| R^7Z | lmao | 00:43 |
| arrrghhh | kernel shouldn't matter. | 00:43 |
| arrrghhh | R^7Z: user error | 00:43 |
| R^7Z | no... | 00:43 |
| R^7Z | heres what i did | 00:43 |
| R^7Z | i opened messages in portrait | 00:43 |
| R^7Z | put it into landscape | 00:44 |
| R^7Z | then back into portrait | 00:44 |
| R^7Z | then i tried an app | 00:44 |
| R^7Z | did the same thing | 00:44 |
| R^7Z | opened in portrait, then landscape then portrait | 00:44 |
| R^7Z | works | 00:44 |
| R^7Z | one of those "i'll be damed" moments | 00:44 |
| R^7Z | :p | 00:44 |
| arrrghhh | i'll be damned, i can't get this to not work. | 00:44 |
| R^7Z | oh... | 00:45 |
| arrrghhh | so i don't know what the diff would be. | 00:45 |
| R^7Z | one more thing | 00:45 |
| arrrghhh | it always works :P | 00:45 |
| R^7Z | i have auto rotate disabled | 00:45 |
| R^7Z | go figure | 00:45 |
| arrrghhh | well then | 00:45 |
| R^7Z | lol | 00:45 |
| arrrghhh | user error. | 00:45 |
| R^7Z | wouldnt be the first time | 00:45 |
| R^7Z | :p | 00:45 |
| R^7Z | definitly wont be the last.... im sure | 00:45 |
| R^7Z | there'll be many more posts about this in the threads if not already.... | 00:46 |
| R^7Z | im going to reenable auto rotate | 00:46 |
| R^7Z | and see if it changes | 00:46 |
| R^7Z | ah ha! | 00:47 |
| R^7Z | and boom goes the dynamite! | 00:47 |
| R^7Z | :D | 00:47 |
| R^7Z | stuck in landscape | 00:47 |
| manekineko | hmm odd, I booted with a clean data.img, and am still getting no rotation | 00:47 |
| manekineko | confirmed that auto rotate defaults to on with a clean data.img | 00:47 |
| R^7Z | even with auto rotate disabled? | 00:48 |
| R^7Z | but does it work? | 00:48 |
| arrrghhh | disabled it should only key off of kbd slide | 00:48 |
| manekineko | I have auto rotate on, with no rotation | 00:48 |
| arrrghhh | but i'm not sure how that works. | 00:48 |
| R^7Z | disable it while stuck in landscape and then close keyboard | 00:48 |
| R^7Z | it should go back to portrait easily | 00:48 |
| arrrghhh | or just go back to the home screen | 00:49 |
| arrrghhh | this is just odd. | 00:49 |
| arrrghhh | why does it work so well for me? | 00:49 |
| arrrghhh | you're in 0g aren't you manekineko | 00:49 |
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| R^7Z | arrrghhh: i think gsensor is still not quite working right or it would've rotated on its own without kicking the keyboard out | 00:49 |
| manekineko | ok, so I opened the keyboard, went to settings and disabled it, and went to home and no rotation | 00:49 |
| manekineko | after closing the keyboard | 00:49 |
| R^7Z | weirdness | 00:49 |
| manekineko | but closing the keyboard did rotate back to portrait | 00:49 |
| manekineko | hmm, I dunno, I feel like I still feel the effects of gravity | 00:50 |
| R^7Z | ha... | 00:50 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:50 |
| R^7Z | we need someone to check it | 00:50 |
| arrrghhh | i'm really at a loss, as it's working flawlessly for me. | 00:50 |
| R^7Z | :p | 00:50 |
| arrrghhh | better than froyo in fact | 00:50 |
| arrrghhh | screen reacts quicker to being rotated. | 00:50 |
| manekineko | yeah, can't be hardware related for me, because it works in Froyo and WinMo | 00:50 |
| R^7Z | agreed... | 00:50 |
| arrrghhh | LIES | 00:50 |
| arrrghhh | that's why i was leaning towards startup.txt | 00:51 |
| arrrghhh | you guys are on the new image right? lol | 00:51 |
| R^7Z | no! | 00:51 |
| R^7Z | :p | 00:51 |
| manekineko | hmm, just closed the keyboard in the browser, and it stayed in landscape | 00:51 |
| manekineko | odd, never seen that before | 00:51 |
| R^7Z | working for me | 00:52 |
| manekineko | heh I did check to make sure I'm on the new image | 00:52 |
| R^7Z | with auto rotate disabled | 00:52 |
| manekineko | showing the correct one under about, full_msm-userdebug 2.3.3 | 00:52 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 00:53 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd: we're going to have to eliminate the user. | 00:53 |
| R^7Z | shhh! hes asleep! :p | 00:53 |
| manekineko | heh | 00:53 |
| arrrghhh | o right | 00:53 |
| R^7Z | ruh roh raggy... | 00:54 |
| R^7Z | djdafreund is checking out the build | 00:54 |
| R^7Z | just just posted in the froyo b thread | 00:54 |
| arrrghhh | yea i saw | 00:54 |
| R^7Z | :/ | 00:54 |
| arrrghhh | don't care. | 00:54 |
| arrrghhh | froyob lol | 00:55 |
| R^7Z | yeah... | 00:55 |
| arrrghhh | so a build gets kanged | 00:55 |
| arrrghhh | butchered | 00:55 |
| arrrghhh | then rekanged | 00:55 |
| arrrghhh | does it get rebutchered? | 00:55 |
| R^7Z | might need to make note of the auto rotate or should we just let them cry? ;) :p | 00:55 |
| arrrghhh | meh. | 00:55 |
| arrrghhh | it works for me, no notes necessary. | 00:55 |
| R^7Z | heh... gotta love that rhod... | 00:56 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko has a RHOD too | 00:56 |
| R^7Z | interesting | 00:56 |
| arrrghhh | now what | 00:56 |
| manekineko | yeah it's quite odd, we have the exact same model RRhod | 00:56 |
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| R^7Z | no, just saying interesting | 00:56 |
| manekineko | I'm out of ideas though, booting back to my real data.img | 00:57 |
| manekineko | hopefully it's isolated | 00:57 |
| R^7Z | gunna tinker around | 00:57 |
| R^7Z | heh... i made a full backup of the contents | 00:57 |
| R^7Z | which i usually do before making any changes | 00:57 |
| arrrghhh | i keep trying to recreate this bug you guys are describing | 00:57 |
| arrrghhh | and i'm failing. it's working too well. | 00:57 |
| bear_ | Sometimes while booting droid it freezes at dosfsck while loading any particular reason, or workaround | 00:58 |
| manekineko | heh bug described: accelerometer does nothing | 00:58 |
| manekineko | it's probably scanning your SD card for errors and fixing them | 00:58 |
| manekineko | that sometimes takes a while | 00:58 |
| manekineko | it resumes after a while right? | 00:58 |
| R^7Z | bear_ i had a hard freeze on my Fuzze while creating a new data.img | 00:58 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99's favorite game, labyrinth works great too. | 00:58 |
| R^7Z | reboot solved the issue | 00:58 |
| arrrghhh | bear_: reboot | 00:59 |
| odzzz | previewing image attachments in the gmail app is broken | 00:59 |
| bear_ | ya reboots norm fix it just wondering why it does it every other boot | 00:59 |
| R^7Z | make sure if it created a data.img that you delete it before continuing ofc | 00:59 |
| R^7Z | odzzz: yay! :p j/k | 01:00 |
| arrrghhh | every other boot? | 01:00 |
| arrrghhh | bear_: format the card i guess, dunno. | 01:00 |
| arrrghhh | odzzz: i'm assuming that worked in froyo? | 01:00 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think i have any emails handy with img attachment | 01:01 |
| odzzz | yep | 01:01 |
| bear_ | hrm, k, have one last question for the night, any way to get to droid before fully loading winmo | 01:01 |
| arrrghhh | gen.y | 01:02 |
| arrrghhh | not supported by us tho | 01:02 |
| manekineko | odzzz, could you describe what's wrong with your image preview? | 01:02 |
| bear_ | np will research; thank you | 01:02 |
| manekineko | I just tried it and it seems to be working | 01:02 |
| odzzz | it trys to load gallery but gallery gives an error about the sdcard | 01:02 |
| manekineko | hmm, no loaded okay for me | 01:02 |
| odzzz | i guess the problem is more related to gallery than the gmail app itself | 01:03 |
| manekineko | wonder if the gallery app is having trouble with your image | 01:03 |
| manekineko | or its something image related | 01:03 |
| arrrghhh | odzzz: are you having that general issue with the SD card? | 01:04 |
| arrrghhh | where apps say there's no SD card available...? | 01:04 |
| odzzz | ya | 01:04 |
| arrrghhh | dude | 01:04 |
| arrrghhh | c'mon. | 01:04 |
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| R^7Z | aaaaanddd were back | 01:05 |
| R^7Z | stupid router auto refresh | 01:05 |
| arrrghhh | image preview works great for me odzzz. format your card with the HP tool. full format, FAT32. | 01:06 |
| manekineko | what browser you guys using? I was hoping for sometihng faster than stock, so I switched to Opera, but that only support zooming via multitouch it seems like, so that's out | 01:07 |
| arrrghhh | zomg | 01:07 |
| arrrghhh | picasa websync is BACK | 01:07 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko: i heard dolpin is good | 01:07 |
| manekineko | what do you use picasa websync for? | 01:07 |
| arrrghhh | i just use stock tho, don't really browse much on the web. | 01:07 |
| arrrghhh | uhm... to sync all my picasa pics? | 01:08 |
| arrrghhh | there's a bug open on the tracker on it as well. | 01:08 |
| arrrghhh | means i can close it, per gb release. | 01:08 |
| arrrghhh | picasa web sync is teh awesome | 01:11 |
| R^7Z | okay apparently my phone needs to rest... it just froze all of a sudden when i tried to download an app from the market while the battery was in red... i even attempted to plug it into my charger | 01:15 |
| R^7Z | i'm out... | 01:16 |
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| arrrghhh | sleepy time for me as well. take it easy guys. | 01:18 |
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| nck20 | goodmorning | 06:10 |
| nck20 | i have a question about my led notification light | 06:13 |
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| nck20 | can someone help me? | 06:32 |
| eval- | i probably can't, but what is your question | 06:35 |
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| creepersq | is this also a chat where you can ask a question about XDANDROID.01.03.10. ? | 06:47 |
| creepersq | i guess not thank anyway | 06:49 |
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| nck20 | well my question is about my notification led, it stays on all the time, i tried ledeffects but after a while its back | 06:49 |
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| eval- | in older versions the green vs. gold (on my rhodium, touch pro 2) just indicated whether it was sleeping or awake | 07:06 |
| eval- | (so you could easily tell your device wasn't sleeping, and thus likely to drain the battery quickly) | 07:06 |
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| nck20 | is there anyone over here? | 07:12 |
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| mighty | hello | 09:47 |
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| jonpry | 64 bytes from 8.8.8.8: icmp_req=4 ttl=52 time=895 ms | 10:36 |
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| jonpry | how do i get build system to compile devices/xdandroid/msm ? | 11:07 |
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| R^7Z | alright... still havent tested out market yet but i restored my old data.img and i think the disabling auto rotate fairs better with my device... | 11:22 |
| R^7Z | my device = raph110/Fuze | 11:23 |
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| jonpry | compiled xdandroid in less than 30 minutes :p | 11:41 |
| R^7Z | sweet! | 11:43 |
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| stinebd | for some reason the touch pro forums don't show up in the xda app for me | 16:46 |
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| stinebd | for people building gingerbread from source, i've updated the wiki building and packaging page with a link to the required liboemcamera blob. the system will not build without it at the moment. | 17:06 |
| eval-- | hey bryan | 17:09 |
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| eval- | i am trying to build my own repo overlay to the aosp (on gitorious) much as you have, and very grateful for all your work. but a bit confused how the manifest's revision= tag works | 17:11 |
| stinebd | anything you can specify for a git merge (or git pull or the like) can be put in there | 17:11 |
| eval- | refs/tags/android-2.2.2-r1 failed, and now revision="froyo" also fails in qemu (error: revision froyo in platform/external/qemu not found) | 17:11 |
| stinebd | branches, tags, or commit IDs basically | 17:12 |
| eval- | i am definitely a git n00b but i'm confused how this is used to pull the aosp tree... it has to find a branch that matches this 'revision' ? | 17:12 |
| stinebd | right | 17:13 |
| eval- | and most, but not all, of their packages have 'froyo' or 'froyo-plus-aosp' or a variety of android-x.x.x-rX tags | 17:13 |
| stinebd | it's best to base your work on one of their manifests from whichever branch you're trying to build | 17:13 |
| eval- | i looked around the qemu on github and there is no froyo branch =/ | 17:14 |
| eval- | and the revision=refs/tags/android-2.2.2-r1 | 17:14 |
| eval- | ooh i see in your manifest you specify a revision specifically for qemu | 17:14 |
| eval- | so maybe you had this problem and that is a workaround | 17:15 |
| stinebd | it's from upstream probably | 17:15 |
| eval- | do i really need to pull all of this crap to begin with?? (this device doesn't have a radio, etc) | 17:15 |
| stinebd | i don't remember putting it there ;) | 17:15 |
| eval- | hmm, it wasn't in the 2.2.2_r1 manifest.xml i got | 17:15 |
| eval- | (which didn't work at all... i wonder if i can just say android-2.2.2_r1 is my revision?) | 17:15 |
| stinebd | from upstream? | 17:15 |
| eval- | from github/android yea | 17:16 |
| stinebd | github? | 17:16 |
| eval- | yes.. that's where the aosp is, right? | 17:16 |
| stinebd | no, aosp is at korg | 17:16 |
| stinebd | http://android.git.kernel.org | 17:16 |
| stinebd | anyway if you check the aosp 2.2.2_r1 manifest the default revision is a tag | 17:17 |
| eval- | hmm ok. http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/manifest.git;a=commitdiff;h=8d8d5c0b2d172667fd801564ca2f3dbe7fa952ee;hp=baec12374bb1fb2803fb3f95b1288c2773a1d436 | 17:18 |
| stinebd | right | 17:19 |
| eval- | this tag did not work for me. and so i tried "froyo" as xda used, which failed in qemu & elsewhere | 17:19 |
| stinebd | that tag definitely exists in their qemu repository | 17:19 |
| eval- | but that is not so hard to fix, but on a case by case basis | 17:19 |
| stinebd | http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/external/qemu.git;a=commit;h=f6b937d9a93b474439c2e602bee39542db796beb | 17:19 |
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| eval- | i just get "fatal: Couldn't find remote ref refs/tags/android-2.2.2-r1" when i try with that revision= | 17:27 |
| stinebd | _r1 | 17:27 |
| eval- | Couldn't find remote ref refs/tags/android-2.2.2_r1 | 17:27 |
| eval- | do i have to cut the refs/tags stuff? i'm confused i get these manifest blobs that don't work | 17:28 |
| stinebd | i just checked it out by hand and it worked fine... not sure what you're doing wrong | 17:29 |
| stinebd | works with my repo too | 17:31 |
| eval- | ok it's my own dumb fault | 17:32 |
| eval- | first time i had the - instead of the _ and now my local gitorious overlays had no tags 2.2.2_r1 | 17:33 |
| eval- | so i just specify those revision="froyo" in the manifest for mine and peg to 2.2.2_r1 of korg aosp | 17:33 |
| stinebd | yep | 17:35 |
| eval- | yay, success. sorry to bother you! now i just have to build my own device/ and vendor/ stuff. not brain work, but a bit tricky. | 17:36 |
| eval- | why'd you switch to v8, btw? | 17:36 |
| stinebd | google apps crashes with jsc | 17:36 |
| eval- | ugh, really? bit only from the gingerbread tree? | 17:36 |
| eval- | this POS has only 128mb ram so i should stick with JSC methinks | 17:37 |
| stinebd | presumably any gingerbread version of the google apps would crash (if it uses a webkit view) | 17:37 |
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| stinebd | arrrghhh | 17:53 |
| stinebd | why didn't you tell me that build was failing without liboemcamera.zip | 17:53 |
| eval- | thanks a lot. i really have to wrap my head around all these little details (like the .sh files in device/name/product building vendor/...) before i can get to the more satisfying hacking =( | 17:53 |
| rpierce99 | stinebd: I knew you wouldn't give up on GApps | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | slipped my mind i guess | 17:53 |
| stinebd | i had emwe hounding me while i was at work | 17:54 |
| stinebd | it was terrible | 17:54 |
| stinebd | guy called me at least 7 times | 17:54 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 17:54 |
| eval- | !wow | 17:54 |
| stinebd | and by 7 i mean 1 | 17:54 |
| stinebd | and by called i mean emailed | 17:54 |
| eval- | boo | 17:54 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: i don't believe any of this sensors stuff until i see it btw | 17:55 |
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| arrrghhh | stinebd: i think it's the rootfs like you said | 17:56 |
| stinebd | sensors shouldn't be working at all with old rootfs | 17:56 |
| stinebd | not being weird as crap | 17:56 |
| stinebd | anyway it's all the same code so blame phh | 17:56 |
| lodtank | Suche nach 95.88.122.105 | 17:57 |
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| arrrghhh | do what | 17:58 |
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| stinebd | i've never seen that guy say anything in here | 18:10 |
| stinebd | and all of a sudden he comes in with that mess | 18:10 |
| stinebd | DER SPRACHEN MACHEN | 18:10 |
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| eval- | oy i've been here like 8 months and their language is still a mess to me | 18:16 |
| eval- | anyhow. sleeptime! thanks again for your help & godspeed with gingerbread. peace | 18:16 |
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| lodtank | hm... sorry, don't know what happened | 18:23 |
| lodtank | it's a broken script, should post the users on a gameserver, it may be triggered from the chat, but can't find the trigger in your text | 18:24 |
| stinebd | i can | 18:24 |
| stinebd | !wow | 18:24 |
| stinebd | [17:54:27] <eval-> !wow | 18:24 |
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| lodtank | Suche nach 95.88.122.105 | 18:27 |
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| oodz | !wow !wow | 18:28 |
| stinebd | dude | 18:28 |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stinebd | 18:28 | |
| *** stinebd sets mode: +q *!*@2001:470:1f06:* | 18:29 | |
| phh | you're banning a /48 ? | 18:29 |
| phh | fiou | 18:29 |
| stinebd | it's a he tunnelbroke /48 | 18:29 |
| stinebd | one per account | 18:29 |
| phh | ah | 18:29 |
| stinebd | tunnelbroker* | 18:29 |
| lodtank | Suche nach 95.88.122.105 | 18:31 |
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| stinebd | god damnit | 18:31 |
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| lodtank | Niemand online aufm Mangos! | 18:32 |
| *** stinebd sets mode: +q *!*@meinungsverstaerker.de | 18:32 | |
| stinebd | lodtank: turn off all your triggers and pm me | 18:32 |
| *** stinebd sets mode: -q *!*@meinungsverstaerker.de | 18:35 | |
| lodtank | thx stinebd, sorry for the trouble | 18:39 |
| stinebd | np | 18:39 |
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| stinebd | xdandroid: bug 102 | 19:18 |
| xdandroid | stinebd: Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=102 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Google Apps issues on Gingerbread | 19:19 |
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| R^7Z | gb definitely seems to run a lot better. too bad auto rotate isn't working correctly. i have to disable it for the screen to return to portrait | 19:38 |
| stinebd | shut up it's working fine | 19:41 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 19:41 |
| stinebd | user error | 19:41 |
| arrrghhh | R^7Z: what rootfs are you using | 19:41 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd: did you test it on your RAPH/ | 19:42 |
| arrrghhh | ? | 19:42 |
| stinebd | i developed it on my raph | 19:42 |
| stinebd | that was before i even had a rhod | 19:42 |
| arrrghhh | oic | 19:42 |
| arrrghhh | R^7Z: LIES | 19:42 |
| arrrghhh | seriously tho. R^7Z what rootfs are you on | 19:42 |
| R^7Z | the one from the 10th | 19:43 |
| R^7Z | 24th is supposed to break data, right? | 19:43 |
| arrrghhh | there's two from the 10th | 19:43 |
| arrrghhh | be more specific | 19:43 |
| R^7Z | hold on... lemme get the exact one | 19:43 |
| R^7Z | rootfs-20110210-2cb7ec0.zip | 19:44 |
| R^7Z | im actually with you stine | 19:44 |
| R^7Z | im hoping its something im doing wrong | 19:44 |
| R^7Z | might be one of those false positives... | 19:45 |
| R^7Z | heh | 19:45 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 19:45 |
| arrrghhh | that's the "latest" functional rootsf. | 19:45 |
| arrrghhh | rootfs | 19:45 |
| R^7Z | im not too worried if no one else reports it | 19:45 |
| R^7Z | it might be my cursed fruze | 19:45 |
| stinebd | check your startup.txt | 19:45 |
| stinebd | need the right axes | 19:46 |
| arrrghhh | that should be the only thing tripping it up | 19:46 |
| stinebd | raph110 is the exact device i developed the library on so i know 173% that it works | 19:46 |
| arrrghhh | R^7Z: you have the same raph as stinebd no? | 19:46 |
| R^7Z | http://pastebin.com/ZzXP3Vns | 19:47 |
| R^7Z | im guessing i do | 19:47 |
| R^7Z | i only know of one type of fuze | 19:48 |
| R^7Z | which would be the RAPH110 | 19:48 |
| R^7Z | unless htc was being a real @$$ about devices | 19:49 |
| arrrghhh | fuze is at&t branding | 19:49 |
| arrrghhh | just like til2 | 19:49 |
| arrrghhh | tilt2 | 19:49 |
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| R^7Z_ | im thinking about starting over from scratch... format, extract the bundle, update rootfs and kernel package along with the system.ext2 files | 19:55 |
| R^7Z_ | hmmm... | 19:56 |
| R^7Z_ | interesting... | 19:57 |
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| R^7Z_ | there we go | 19:59 |
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| R^7Z | yay! | 19:59 |
| arrrghhh | nickserv ghost | 20:00 |
| arrrghhh | read about it. | 20:00 |
| R^7Z | lovely | 20:00 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 20:00 |
| R^7Z | but the problem is i have no password... | 20:01 |
| R^7Z | or is there not one required to reuse your nick? | 20:01 |
| arrrghhh | you have no password? | 20:01 |
| R^7Z | not for irc, no | 20:01 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd: we need to enforce registered nicks in here. | 20:01 |
| arrrghhh | get rid of these hooligans. | 20:01 |
| arrrghhh | oh hai there R^7Z | 20:02 |
| R^7Z | heh | 20:02 |
| R^7Z | yeah... about that... | 20:02 |
| R^7Z | so yeah... ima try from scratch, again | 20:03 |
| R^7Z | no idea what is the right axis to use but im guessing the startup.txt files are correct in the gb build package | 20:04 |
| arrrghhh | s/b | 20:05 |
| arrrghhh | tell me if they're not :D | 20:05 |
| R^7Z | and how do we determine if they are or are not? | 20:05 |
| stinebd | fuze's is correct | 20:05 |
| R^7Z | do i need to just try different combinations? | 20:05 |
| arrrghhh | thx stine. | 20:05 |
| arrrghhh | R^7Z: nope. | 20:05 |
| rpierce99 | i'm not registered either, guess i should do that, i know everyone wants to be me | 20:06 |
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| arrrghhh | lots of people clamoring for usernames like rpierce99 | 20:06 |
| arrrghhh | and R^7Z | 20:06 |
| R^7Z | chea... | 20:06 |
| R^7Z | :/ | 20:06 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:06 |
| R^7Z | so, hows the snow arrrghhh? | 20:07 |
| rpierce99 | omg oscar red carpet... /heaven </sarcasm> | 20:07 |
| arrrghhh | f-ing fantastic. | 20:08 |
| arrrghhh | soooo much better than last year. | 20:08 |
| R^7Z | kool | 20:09 |
| arrrghhh | yea, hoping to get more fresh poweder. | 20:09 |
| arrrghhh | er | 20:09 |
| arrrghhh | powder | 20:09 |
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| lomax | +i | 20:21 |
| lomax | i++ | 20:21 |
| arrrghhh | i-- | 20:21 |
| lomax | continue | 20:22 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 20:22 |
| arrrghhh | profit? | 20:22 |
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| lomax | return 0 | 20:22 |
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| R^7Z | forgot about the calibration situation with latest kernel package | 20:24 |
| R^7Z | meh... | 20:24 |
| R^7Z | small potatoes | 20:24 |
| arrrghhh | i attached a ts-calib file | 20:25 |
| arrrghhh | which it seems i need to rethink. | 20:25 |
| R^7Z | i kno... i have one too | 20:25 |
| arrrghhh | damn newbies. | 20:25 |
| arrrghhh | can't handle renaming a .txt file | 20:25 |
| R^7Z | heh... | 20:26 |
| R^7Z | would be the least of our worries... | 20:26 |
| R^7Z | :p | 20:26 |
| R^7Z | should make them work for it... but thats just my opinion | 20:26 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 20:26 |
| arrrghhh | as much as i would normally agree with you | 20:27 |
| R^7Z | i feel like thats what i do each time we upgrade... :/ | 20:27 |
| R^7Z | even though i kno i dont do nearly as much as you guys do... | 20:28 |
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| Besho | Hi guys, just have a little question, which video formats works on xdandroid | 20:31 |
| arrrghhh | none | 20:31 |
| arrrghhh | don't watch videos on your phone | 20:31 |
| arrrghhh | that's what tvs are for | 20:31 |
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| R^7Z | and laptops | 20:32 |
| arrrghhh | nope | 20:32 |
| arrrghhh | just tv's | 20:32 |
| R^7Z | oh... right... | 20:32 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:32 |
| arrrghhh | sorry, just ignore me. i'm going to go eat. | 20:32 |
| Besho | :D | 20:32 |
| Besho | lol, hhhhhhh, I mean seriously | 20:33 |
| stinebd | Besho: low-quality h264 should be okay | 20:33 |
| Besho | actually, you're the first one who pointed me to frx04 | 20:33 |
| Besho | thnx sooooooo much stinebd | 20:33 |
| Besho | but will it be better by time? | 20:34 |
| stinebd | hopefully | 20:34 |
| Besho | a general question, will android be more powerful when it run from the ROM instead of SD card? | 20:35 |
| stinebd | no | 20:36 |
| Besho | why?, isn't it supposed to be faster? | 20:36 |
| stinebd | no | 20:37 |
| lomax | i think heat issues may be better. Hope so. Right now sometimes it's like an oven. Or am i the only one? | 20:37 |
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| lomax | maybe i should start by saying thanks to all of you dedicated devs | 20:38 |
| Besho | I mean the internal memory supposed to be gr8, @lomax, you mean the device? | 20:38 |
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| lomax | device, yeah. esp when it fails to sleep | 20:39 |
| lomax | while charging | 20:39 |
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| stinebd | lomax: there has been significant work done to improve that already (particularly on rhod) | 20:40 |
| stinebd | after it's all stabilized it will be merged into the working kernel tree | 20:40 |
| Besho | on my rhod, I didn't notice such a thing, I'm using frx04 | 20:41 |
| R^7Z | stinebd: still a no go for the landscape issue. so for the time being im just not going to use it | 20:41 |
| stinebd | R^7Z: have you repeatedly dropped your phone or something? | 20:42 |
| lomax | i am using frx04 as well. and the stupid rhod400 gets heated when i use a few apps after about 10 minutes | 20:42 |
| lomax | may be it's the device | 20:42 |
| stinebd | or thrown, flushed, driven over, swallowed, etc? | 20:42 |
| R^7Z | nah... no worries dude | 20:43 |
| rpierce99 | lomax, Besho: be patient, the changes are not in the main kernel yet, you won't have seen the changes unless you're testing a dev kernel | 20:43 |
| R^7Z | i figure its something on my end since you are able to get it to work on your fuze | 20:43 |
| stinebd | could you describe one more time exactly what's happening? | 20:44 |
| lomax | cool thanks rpierce99, stinebd, besho et al | 20:44 |
| Besho | you're welcome buddy | 20:45 |
| R^7Z | i can kick the keyboard out to force it into landscape but it wont go back to portrait once keyboard is closed | 20:45 |
| stinebd | and rotating does nothing on its own? | 20:45 |
| stinebd | ie. before keyboard is open | 20:45 |
| R^7Z | only until nothing whatso ever | 20:45 |
| R^7Z | sorry i was in mid typing | 20:45 |
| stinebd | that's definitely the driver not being loaded then | 20:45 |
| stinebd | you're sure you have the latest rootfs? | 20:46 |
| R^7Z | yup... want me to try an earlier one? | 20:46 |
| stinebd | no | 20:46 |
| R^7Z | k | 20:46 |
| stinebd | yesterday's system image requires the latest one to work properly | 20:46 |
| Besho | the real thanks should go to the great devs, I believe that they'll make me one day get rid of winmo, and use NAND to flash XDAndroid permanently :D | 20:46 |
| R^7Z | rootfs-20110210-2cb7ec0.zip | 20:47 |
| stinebd | that's not it | 20:47 |
| R^7Z | thats the one i am using | 20:47 |
| R^7Z | no? | 20:47 |
| stinebd | http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/rootfs-20110224-3dd92b8.zip | 20:47 |
| lomax | NAND isn't gonna fix the rhod400 audio jack, is it? | 20:47 |
| R^7Z | ah... i thought that one broke data... lemme try that one then | 20:47 |
| stinebd | hint: you can bookmark http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/rootfs-latest.zip | 20:47 |
| stinebd | it broke stuff on the earlier system image | 20:48 |
| R^7Z | yea that and several other sites | 20:48 |
| rpierce99 | lomax: the only thing nand "fixes" is usb storage | 20:48 |
| stinebd | with the latest rootfs and yesterday's system image, everything that was working before should work now | 20:48 |
| R^7Z | k | 20:49 |
| R^7Z | appreciate the clear up... | 20:49 |
| Besho | how can I port 2 different android systems on my device? | 20:49 |
| R^7Z | it was my understanding that that one shouldnt be used... go figure... | 20:49 |
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| stinebd | that rootfs was meant specifically for the system changes that i made which were integrated into yesterday's image | 20:50 |
| lomax_ | looks like the server kicked me out for asking noob ques | 20:50 |
| lomax_ | thanks rpierce for the info on usb storage | 20:50 |
| R^7Z | gotcha... booting now | 20:51 |
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| Besho | how can I port 2 different android systems on my device? | 20:54 |
| arrrghhh | wait what? | 20:55 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: he had the wrong rootfs | 20:55 |
| stinebd | that's all | 20:55 |
| arrrghhh | so you want to run more than one build on your SD? | 20:55 |
| arrrghhh | i just love when people say they're porting android. | 20:55 |
| arrrghhh | when really they're just running android. | 20:55 |
| stinebd | not everybody can be a genius | 20:56 |
| stinebd | well maybe they can | 20:56 |
| stinebd | especially if people think i'm smart | 20:56 |
| arrrghhh | i'd like to think everyone is good at something. | 20:56 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd: you're just good at sucking. | 20:56 |
| stinebd | i'm good at turning food into ext2 filesystems | 20:56 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:57 |
| lophat | ahhh... i can turn food into s**t | 20:57 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 20:57 |
| stinebd | both have to be flushed occasionally! | 20:57 |
| lophat | lol | 20:58 |
| Besho | sorry guys, i'm a nooooooooob | 20:58 |
| R^7Z | so yeah... | 20:58 |
| lophat | i feel like i've just stumbled into a nerddom and it feels good | 20:58 |
| R^7Z | dont think i need to inform anyone about the rootfs situation, right? | 20:59 |
| Besho | ya I mean running more than one build | 20:59 |
| stinebd | Besho: take one system, unzip it to andboot. move it to andsomethingelse, edit that startup.txt and set rel_path=andsomethingelse | 20:59 |
| R^7Z | :p | 20:59 |
| stinebd | Besho: then unzip another one to andboot and keep it like that | 20:59 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 20:59 |
| arrrghhh | you can have it two folders deep as well | 20:59 |
| stinebd | the deeper the better | 20:59 |
| rpierce99 | twss | 21:00 |
| arrrghhh | for example i put all the builds in /Androids/... | 21:00 |
| arrrghhh | like /Androids/GB or /Androids/TP2Ref | 21:00 |
| lophat | go on.. | 21:00 |
| Besho | ahaaaaa, thnx guys | 21:00 |
| arrrghhh | name 'em whatever you want tho | 21:00 |
| Besho | that is simple :D | 21:00 |
| stinebd | i'm gone, night folks | 21:00 |
| arrrghhh | peace | 21:00 |
| lophat | what is this bidness about having to reformat.. is it crucial everytime? | 21:01 |
| Besho | of course I have to edit startup.txt to say rel_path=/Androids/TP2Ref | 21:01 |
| lophat | ciao stinebd | 21:01 |
| arrrghhh | lol @ Besho | 21:01 |
| arrrghhh | lophat: you don't have to | 21:02 |
| arrrghhh | just fixes odd issues sometimes. | 21:02 |
| Besho | ya, the first slash is needed? | 21:02 |
| Besho | i mean | 21:02 |
| lophat | i see. tks | 21:02 |
| arrrghhh | Besho: sorry no | 21:02 |
| arrrghhh | so if you did put it in that path | 21:02 |
| arrrghhh | rel_path=Androids/TP2Ref | 21:02 |
| arrrghhh | Androids folder is at the root of your SD | 21:03 |
| Besho | aha, thanks sooooooooooooo much dude, gonna try this now | 21:03 |
| arrrghhh | np | 21:03 |
| arrrghhh | i detailed this in my thread btw :P | 21:03 |
| lophat | arrrghhh... i don't see a download link in your testing kernel thread. removed? | 21:04 |
| R^7Z | arrrghhh: i was almost tempted to actually try that rootfs and say screw the data issue | 21:04 |
| arrrghhh | lophat: yes, it'll be updated shortly. | 21:04 |
| arrrghhh | assuming this next test goes well. | 21:04 |
| arrrghhh | please read the last post :P | 21:04 |
| arrrghhh | complicated, i know. | 21:05 |
| arrrghhh | R^7Z: do eeeeeeeeeeeeeeet | 21:05 |
| lophat | last post is by ndnp | 21:05 |
| R^7Z | nah... just helps to tell others to try something different every once in a while | 21:05 |
| lophat | ndno | 21:05 |
| lophat | lol | 21:05 |
| arrrghhh | my last post | 21:05 |
| arrrghhh | damnit jim | 21:05 |
| R^7Z | i actually did and it did work... | 21:05 |
| lophat | what did you do r^7z | 21:06 |
| lophat | :-) | 21:06 |
| R^7Z | well, i replaced the rootfs that was last known to be working with the latest one | 21:06 |
| arrrghhh | lophat: I posted a new kernel, but had to pull it. Sorry guys... We'll fix it shortly. | 21:06 |
| lophat | cool argh | 21:07 |
| lophat | and what happened r^7z, please do tell... | 21:07 |
| R^7Z | keeping in mind, both "work" but the latest rootfs works "better" with the latest testing release | 21:07 |
| R^7Z | :p | 21:07 |
| lophat | i see | 21:07 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 21:08 |
| R^7Z | it would've helped had i not listened to myself earlier... | 21:08 |
| arrrghhh | probably | 21:08 |
| lophat | you talk to yourself often? | 21:08 |
| arrrghhh | if it helps, i never listen to you | 21:08 |
| odz | yep the latest rootfs with latest gb build sleeps instantly for me compared to the other one that took 10-30secs | 21:09 |
| arrrghhh | odz: wistilt2 seems to think the 30s sleep issue is related to ril | 21:09 |
| R^7Z | arrrghhh: thanks | 21:09 |
| arrrghhh | so see what happens over a long period of time, i'm assuming you haven't been running it for very long | 21:09 |
| arrrghhh | R^7Z: anytime | 21:09 |
| odz | will do | 21:09 |
| R^7Z | lophat: sometimes when im looking at the mirror i do... | 21:09 |
| lophat | lol | 21:10 |
| lophat | i should have told myself earlier what to say next, now i forgot | 21:10 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 21:11 |
| R^7Z | i do that often too... | 21:11 |
| R^7Z | weird, huh? | 21:12 |
| arrrghhh | glad i booted this first. | 21:12 |
| rpierce99 | o? | 21:12 |
| lophat | what did it say? | 21:12 |
| arrrghhh | it uh | 21:12 |
| arrrghhh | booted to a completely gray screen. | 21:12 |
| arrrghhh | just blank, gray screen. | 21:13 |
| lophat | can you use that as a mirror? r^72 uses one | 21:13 |
| arrrghhh | i'll try again. i guess i should go back to frx04 | 21:13 |
| arrrghhh | heh nope | 21:13 |
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| lophat | what were you booting? | 21:14 |
| arrrghhh | bacon | 21:14 |
| arrrghhh | test kernel | 21:14 |
| * arrrghhh is part of the dev team, but only as a testing schmo. | 21:14 | |
| lophat | i see. sous chef? | 21:15 |
| lophat | i meant sous dev? | 21:15 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:16 |
| arrrghhh | i guess | 21:16 |
| lophat | who's the big cat in this town? | 21:16 |
| lophat | ping | 21:18 |
| R^7Z | apple core? | 21:18 |
| lophat | please do not mention apple. it gives me nightmares. | 21:19 |
| lophat | lol, what? | 21:20 |
| R^7Z | sheesh... touche | 21:20 |
| lophat | indeed | 21:21 |
| lophat | Anyway, what did he mean? <stinebd> the deeper the better | 21:24 |
| rpierce99 | lophat: it was a joke, hence my response, ttws | 21:24 |
| rpierce99 | err twss | 21:25 |
| lophat | i see, i thought he couldn't be talking about folders! | 21:25 |
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| lophat | so, for stuff like Androids/GB or Androids/TP2Ref -- multiple builds --- we need haret and all in each folder? | 21:33 |
| rpierce99 | yes | 21:34 |
| lophat | i see | 21:34 |
| lophat | tks | 21:34 |
| arrrghhh | full build in each folder | 21:34 |
| arrrghhh | like they're separate builds, as they are. treat them as such. | 21:35 |
| lophat | ok... ima gonna give it a shot | 21:35 |
| lophat | tks argh and rp99 | 21:35 |
| arrrghhh | np | 21:35 |
| arrrghhh | fyi, you can hit the first 2 letters (or whatever) of our names and hit tab to complete the name | 21:36 |
| lophat | arrrghhh: rpierce99 | 21:36 |
| lophat | cool | 21:36 |
| lophat | tks | 21:37 |
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| arrrghhh | heh | 22:14 |
| arrrghhh | np | 22:14 |
| R^7Z | so i was using smuxi, an irc client | 22:16 |
| R^7Z | and i tried to join #xdandroid | 22:17 |
| R^7Z | but to no avail... | 22:17 |
| R^7Z | any suggestions? | 22:17 |
| arrrghhh | your nice | 22:17 |
| arrrghhh | nick | 22:17 |
| arrrghhh | damnit i shouldn't drink and irc | 22:17 |
| R^7Z | heh | 22:18 |
| odz | still getting instant sleeps with latest rootfs arrrghhh compared to the older one that took 10-30secs | 22:19 |
| arrrghhh | LIES | 22:19 |
| arrrghhh | sorry, that's good. | 22:20 |
| arrrghhh | which rootfs? 2/24? | 22:20 |
| odz | yep | 22:20 |
| odz | the other one you told me to use last night gave me the 10-30sec sleep issue | 22:21 |
| arrrghhh | odd | 22:21 |
| arrrghhh | you're on gb? | 22:21 |
| odz | ya | 22:21 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 22:21 |
| arrrghhh | i'll just write that one off then. stupid gb :P | 22:22 |
| arrrghhh | freakin flies tho, i <3 gb. | 22:22 |
| odz | lol | 22:22 |
| arrrghhh | just need some more tweaking. | 22:22 |
| odz | ya | 22:22 |
| odz | it does seem a bit slow in some areas | 22:22 |
| arrrghhh | yea, it seems to have these weird hiccups | 22:23 |
| arrrghhh | where it just hangs | 22:23 |
| arrrghhh | and then other times it's holyfast. | 22:23 |
| arrrghhh | blame stine. | 22:23 |
| odz | ya last night it reboot'd into windows whiles i was txting :/ | 22:23 |
| arrrghhh | nice. | 22:23 |
| arrrghhh | those happen for a plethora of reasons. | 22:23 |
| odz | ya worked out pretty good since the person decided to send me a mms | 22:24 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:24 |
| arrrghhh | that was the problem :P | 22:24 |
| arrrghhh | what device? | 22:24 |
| rpierce99 | odz: stop sexting | 22:24 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 22:24 |
| * rpierce99 is just jealous | 22:25 | |
| odz | sprint | 22:25 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 22:25 |
| arrrghhh | RHOD400 | 22:25 |
| odz | tp2 | 22:25 |
| odz | on boost mobile | 22:25 |
| odz | ACL should put his tp on boost mobile so he could test things easier | 22:28 |
| arrrghhh | why? | 22:28 |
| arrrghhh | phone is pretty network-agnostic. | 22:28 |
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| odz | ACL should put his tp on boost mobile so he could test things easier | 22:30 |
| R^7Z | we got that | 22:30 |
| arrrghhh | why? | 22:30 |
| arrrghhh | phone is pretty network-agnostic. | 22:30 |
| arrrghhh | is my responde | 22:30 |
| arrrghhh | er | 22:30 |
| arrrghhh | response | 22:30 |
| lophat | arrrghhh: rpierce99: android/bin/sh: cant access tty ... any idea | 22:30 |
| arrrghhh | need more scotch | 22:30 |
| arrrghhh | lophat: wha? | 22:30 |
| arrrghhh | on boot? | 22:30 |
| arrrghhh | or what? | 22:30 |
| lophat | yeap | 22:31 |
| rpierce99 | lophat: that happens every time, success or fail | 22:31 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 22:31 |
| rpierce99 | look for a different message | 22:31 |
| rpierce99 | or wait | 22:31 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 22:31 |
| arrrghhh | wait | 22:31 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:31 |
| arrrghhh | 10 mins | 22:31 |
| lophat | okay the boot went through | 22:31 |
| arrrghhh | so leave it | 22:31 |
| arrrghhh | damnit jim. | 22:31 |
| lophat | i know tim | 22:31 |
| R^7Z | I usually wait the 10 minutes required but never make it to 10 minutes because by that time i'm at the homescreen... :p | 22:31 |
| lophat | wait 10 mins? wha.... | 22:31 |
| lophat | ruu? | 22:32 |
| rpierce99 | yeah with the newest kernels and a good data.img, it should be < 2 mins | 22:32 |
| lophat | i see | 22:32 |
| rpierce99 | it only takes near 10 minutes if it's building your data.img for the first time | 22:32 |
| lophat | tks rpierce99 | 22:32 |
| R^7Z | so like, should we change that to 5 minutes now? | 22:32 |
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| R^7Z | ruh roh raggy... | 22:33 |
| lophat | arrrghhh: still gray screen? | 22:33 |
| arrrghhh | why | 22:33 |
| arrrghhh | R^7Z: no | 22:33 |
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| rpierce99 | damn wireless | 22:33 |
| R^7Z | arrrghhh: k | 22:33 |
| arrrghhh | first boot still can take up to 10 mins. the kernel rpierce99 is talking about is in testing now. | 22:33 |
| lophat | lol rpierce99 | 22:33 |
| lophat | too many kernels, too little time | 22:34 |
| arrrghhh | zomg wistilt2 is a machine | 22:34 |
| arrrghhh | newbs are having trouble keeping up with the changes lol | 22:34 |
| R^7Z | you'd think someone would've figured out a fool proof method of being permanently connected to wireless connections... or is that self defeating??? | 22:34 |
| arrrghhh | R^7Z: wireless is inherently crappy. | 22:35 |
| arrrghhh | it's... wireless. | 22:35 |
| lophat | arrrghhh: noobs are having prob with keeping up but you're the one with gray screen! lol | 22:35 |
| R^7Z | arrrghhh: right but you'd think since we were in the 21st century that there'd be cars in the air by now... | 22:35 |
| arrrghhh | lophat: ... | 22:35 |
| arrrghhh | R^7Z: living in the 1950's are we? | 22:36 |
| R^7Z | arrrghhh: just wishing on a hopeless "dream" | 22:36 |
| rpierce99 | lophat: i'll take a gray screen once in a while to get the ridiculous improvements WisTilt2 has made | 22:36 |
| arrrghhh | lophat: you really don't have a clue what you're talking about in respect to that. nothing i did caused the gray screen, this is the joy of being a tester. | 22:36 |
| arrrghhh | indeed, wistilt2 has done amazing work for this projec.t | 22:36 |
| arrrghhh | project* | 22:37 |
| R^7Z | its the gray screen of death! | 22:37 |
| lophat | arrrghhh: i think i know more than you think you know i know | 22:37 |
| lophat | mr columbus! | 22:37 |
| lophat | lol | 22:37 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 22:37 |
| arrrghhh | what | 22:37 |
| arrrghhh | you don't know what you're talking about in respect to the gray screen.' | 22:38 |
| arrrghhh | that's all i said | 22:38 |
| lophat | i see. roger that | 22:38 |
| lophat | but if i say gray screen is not the intended screen... will that prove i know at least something about the gray screen? just clinging to semantics now | 22:40 |
| arrrghhh | lol yes. | 22:40 |
| arrrghhh | gray screen is not expected | 22:40 |
| arrrghhh | wistilt2 is moving around ramconsole | 22:41 |
| lophat | that's all i said | 22:41 |
| arrrghhh | and it's causing issues on cdma devices. | 22:41 |
| arrrghhh | well you made it sound like it was a self-inflicted problem... | 22:41 |
| arrrghhh | [20:35] <lophat> arrrghhh: noobs are having prob with keeping up but you're the one with gray screen! lol | 22:41 |
| lophat | no no... | 22:41 |
| * arrrghhh needs more scotch | 22:41 | |
| arrrghhh | mmmmmmmmmm scotch | 22:42 |
| lophat | yeah, brewsky is the key to sunday night enlightenment, as god intended it | 22:42 |
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| rpierce99 | i've sampled a wide variety of beverages in my day, but can't say I've ever had scotch | 22:42 |
| arrrghhh | my dad loves single malt scotch | 22:43 |
| arrrghhh | so i partake | 22:43 |
| lophat | rpierce99: lol in my day? | 22:43 |
| rpierce99 | yeah i'm all of 27 | 22:43 |
| * arrrghhh is 26 | 22:43 | |
| rpierce99 | i just like to say things that make me seem old | 22:43 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:43 |
| lophat | lol | 22:43 |
| R^7Z | oh boy... do i feel old (not really) | 22:43 |
| rpierce99 | although I think arrrghhh wins that one, saying he's drinking scotch | 22:43 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 22:44 |
| * arrrghhh wins | 22:44 | |
| lophat | 18-22 budlight and natty light | 22:44 |
| lophat | if you're drinking scotch, you've gotta be at least 23 | 22:44 |
| R^7Z | im a rum drinker | 22:44 |
| lophat | to afford it | 22:44 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 22:44 |
| rpierce99 | look what you started arrrghhh | 22:45 |
| arrrghhh | yea, i know. | 22:45 |
| R^7Z | but i like the heavy stuff every once in a while... | 22:45 |
| lophat | are we at the confessional/ | 22:45 |
| lophat | lol | 22:45 |
| arrrghhh | yea, i don't drink much in the way of hard liquor. | 22:45 |
| R^7Z | psh | 22:45 |
| arrrghhh | but when i do, i try to drink good stuff | 22:45 |
| lophat | okay okay, i like johnny black | 22:45 |
| arrrghhh | or just get blasted on jager. | 22:45 |
| R^7Z | 151 on very rare occasions | 22:46 |
| rpierce99 | arrrghhh: you sound like a dos equis commercial | 22:46 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 22:46 |
| arrrghhh | i don't always drink hard liquor | 22:46 |
| arrrghhh | but when i do, i get shitfaced on jager | 22:46 |
| R^7Z | did we do a double take or something? | 22:46 |
| arrrghhh | yea thought i'd clean it up | 22:46 |
| arrrghhh | make it more tailored to dos equis | 22:47 |
| R^7Z | ah... | 22:47 |
| arrrghhh | but jager | 22:47 |
| lophat | more like tanqueray commerical | 22:47 |
| arrrghhh | yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa | 22:47 |
| R^7Z | lol | 22:47 |
| rpierce99 | arrrghhh: i just bounced through a few threads on the forums and everyone and their mother has problems with the calibration files, it's sad, really | 22:47 |
| arrrghhh | yea. | 22:48 |
| arrrghhh | it is | 22:48 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not sure how to make it easier. | 22:48 |
| R^7Z | i think whoever was mentioning about the calib situation was on to something... | 22:48 |
| arrrghhh | i can include it in the build, but then if anyone without a RHOD uses the build they'll fail. | 22:48 |
| R^7Z | im just not sure who and in which thread | 22:48 |
| R^7Z | i think we're looking at this the wrong way | 22:48 |
| R^7Z | is there a standard screen size? | 22:49 |
| arrrghhh | for rhod | 22:49 |
| R^7Z | like i know all raphs have a standard screen size | 22:49 |
| arrrghhh | and raph | 22:49 |
| arrrghhh | for each particular device. | 22:49 |
| R^7Z | heh... | 22:49 |
| R^7Z | guess thats a hecks no... | 22:50 |
| R^7Z | is dpi is relevant to device as well? | 22:51 |
| R^7Z | seeing theres only two... | 22:51 |
| arrrghhh | yea i think that's all that matters really | 22:51 |
| arrrghhh | so i guess we only have two ts-calibs? | 22:51 |
| R^7Z | well... lets not be hasty here... | 22:51 |
| R^7Z | we'd need to check this with a base device... right? | 22:52 |
| R^7Z | rhod is wvga, yes? | 22:52 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 22:52 |
| arrrghhh | damnit man | 22:53 |
| R^7Z | and diam is vga | 22:53 |
| R^7Z | im sluthing here... | 22:53 |
| R^7Z | or brainstorming | 22:53 |
| arrrghhh | i think we're one or the other | 22:53 |
| arrrghhh | hence the two lcd.density settings' | 22:53 |
| arrrghhh | 210 or 240 | 22:53 |
| R^7Z | right... but we'll still need a base device's ts-calib file to base this one though, right? | 22:54 |
| R^7Z | one=on | 22:54 |
| arrrghhh | dunno tbh | 22:54 |
| R^7Z | k | 22:54 |
| arrrghhh | i would think all wvga devices can use the same ts-calib | 22:54 |
| arrrghhh | and all vga devices can use the same ts-cliab | 22:54 |
| arrrghhh | calib | 22:54 |
| R^7Z | perhaps... would need the masses to confirm or deny, i suppose? | 22:55 |
| arrrghhh | meh | 22:55 |
| R^7Z | the way it is now... it seems like we are headed in that direction though... | 22:55 |
| arrrghhh | i'm just going to hope that we can grab it from SPL | 22:55 |
| arrrghhh | and be done. | 22:55 |
| rpierce99 | that or fix the kernel calibration | 22:55 |
| R^7Z | that would be nice | 22:55 |
| R^7Z | dangit... i was just going to say that | 22:55 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 22:56 |
| * rpierce99 is faster | 22:56 | |
| rpierce99 | :P | 22:56 |
| * arrrghhh is fastest | 22:56 | |
| arrrghhh | even semi-drunk | 22:56 |
| arrrghhh | i guess this would be the 'tipsy' state. | 22:56 |
| * R^7Z is obviously screaming sloooow... | 22:56 | |
| R^7Z | erey body in tha club gettin tip-sey... :p | 22:56 |
| arrrghhh | oy | 22:57 |
| R^7Z | lol | 22:57 |
| rpierce99 | i don't mind when people drink, i find it pretty funny actually, but for some reason it drives me crazy when people talk about being drunk, no offense arrrghhh :) | 22:57 |
| arrrghhh | sorry? | 22:57 |
| R^7Z | semi-but drunk isnt drunk, right? | 22:57 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:58 |
| R^7Z | woops... | 22:58 |
| arrrghhh | thanks for backin me up R^7Z :P | 22:58 |
| R^7Z | np man... | 22:58 |
| R^7Z | lolz | 22:58 |
| R^7Z | i think my cover is blown... | 22:58 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 22:58 |
| arrrghhh | i think rpierce99 is just mad that i'm faster than him, even when semi-drunk. | 22:59 |
| R^7Z | and not semi-but drunk | 22:59 |
| R^7Z | HA! | 22:59 |
| R^7Z | LMAO | 22:59 |
| * R^7Z sighs | 22:59 | |
| R^7Z | but i digress... | 23:00 |
| rpierce99 | no it's a personal thing, it's me not you :) I think it actually goes back to high school, I was that kid who had never had drink in my life, and I despised the people who bragged about how much they drank, desperate cry for attention, it just kind stuck even after I started drinking (quite heavily at times) | 23:00 |
| arrrghhh | do you drink now? | 23:00 |
| rpierce99 | had a glass tonight | 23:01 |
| R^7Z | yay! | 23:01 |
| R^7Z | erey body in the room gettin tip-sey!!! | 23:01 |
| R^7Z | sorry... | 23:01 |
| R^7Z | devil made me do it... | 23:01 |
| R^7Z | im not really though... im just weird most of the times | 23:02 |
| lophat | don't blame me | 23:02 |
| R^7Z | lophat: oh but i do... | 23:02 |
| R^7Z | :p | 23:02 |
| lophat | :) i know almost funny | 23:02 |
| lophat | i'll try harder next time | 23:02 |
| R^7Z | mehhh... | 23:03 |
| R^7Z | lophat: id rather you not... | 23:03 |
| R^7Z | :D | 23:03 |
| R^7Z | im starting to get all self-conscious | 23:03 |
| lophat | lol | 23:04 |
| * R^7Z just realized tomorrow was monday | 23:04 | |
| R^7Z | :enter sad face of choice here: | 23:04 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 23:06 |
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| lophat | who won the oscars? | 23:06 |
| arrrghhh | sooooo glad i don't have to work tomorrow | 23:06 |
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| rpierce99 | lophat: actors | 23:07 |
| rpierce99 | lophat: maybe a few directors and producers | 23:07 |
| lophat | lol | 23:07 |
| rpierce99 | lophat: but mostly fashion designers | 23:07 |
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| lophat | king just delivered | 23:26 |
| lophat | the speech | 23:26 |
| arrrghhh | king? | 23:26 |
| lophat | colin firth FTW | 23:27 |
| rpierce99 | he's talking oscars | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | meh | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | who cares | 23:27 |
| lophat | i thought from dionysian drunken revelry, something different | 23:29 |
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