| manekineko | yeah, this thing is getting close! | 00:05 |
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| arrrghhh | today is ridiculous. | 00:05 |
| arrrghhh | <3 | 00:05 |
| manekineko | I'm dying for the gapps fix on GB | 00:05 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 00:06 |
| manekineko | that build is so fast it's amazing | 00:06 |
| manekineko | I can't go back to FRX | 00:06 |
| arrrghhh | i know | 00:06 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder if stine can make a "consumer" build of froyo | 00:06 |
| manekineko | what would be changed? | 00:06 |
| manekineko | throw in some capslock and random apps? | 00:06 |
| manekineko | haha I kid, I kid | 00:06 |
| arrrghhh | a lot of dev crap pulled out | 00:06 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:06 |
| manekineko | yeah, that's true, I wonder if there are any other speedups to be had from cutting back on dev stuff | 00:07 |
| arrrghhh | there's a lot of debugging crap that needs to be cleaned up | 00:08 |
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| MassStash | all right | 00:15 |
| arrrghhh | alllllllllllllllllll right | 00:16 |
| MassStash | anyone wanna point to what i should try first? | 00:16 |
| MassStash | build my own? | 00:16 |
| arrrghhh | nate's nbh | 00:16 |
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| MassStash | k | 00:16 |
| arrrghhh | not committed | 00:16 |
| arrrghhh | you can grab my androidupdate.tar if you want | 00:16 |
| arrrghhh | has the modules in it, wifi works great | 00:16 |
| MassStash | well what all changed? i got the os.nb.payload file... | 00:16 |
| MassStash | werd wheres that at>? ill flash that first just to see it work at least! haha | 00:17 |
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| arrrghhh | ppcg | 00:17 |
| arrrghhh | so uh this is odd. | 00:18 |
| arrrghhh | titanium backup says i'm either not rooted | 00:18 |
| arrrghhh | or i don't have busybox | 00:18 |
| jonpry | i don't think frx has busybox | 00:18 |
| arrrghhh | i use TB on haret all the damned time tho jonpry... | 00:19 |
| jonpry | :p | 00:19 |
| arrrghhh | bastage :P | 00:19 |
| arrrghhh | data survives a reboot | 00:19 |
| jonpry | in that case | 00:19 |
| jonpry | you have something broke | 00:19 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 00:19 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 00:19 |
| arrrghhh | where should i look, logcat? | 00:20 |
| manekineko | you try installing busybox? | 00:20 |
| arrrghhh | no | 00:20 |
| arrrghhh | trying to use titanium backup | 00:20 |
| manekineko | I seem to remember having to install it manually once | 00:20 |
| manekineko | not really sure why, but could help narrow down the problem | 00:21 |
| arrrghhh | http://pastebin.com/DyQgNF3E | 00:21 |
| arrrghhh | looks like it couldn't access those and therefore thinks i am not rooted Oo | 00:21 |
| manekineko | heh you're not still connected by USB are you? | 00:21 |
| arrrghhh | i tried it dc'd | 00:22 |
| arrrghhh | at first | 00:22 |
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| arrrghhh | i don't think i have tried it connected to usb | 00:22 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 00:22 |
| arrrghhh | same | 00:22 |
| MassStash | uuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh | 00:23 |
| MassStash | it works. | 00:23 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:23 |
| MassStash | lol | 00:23 |
| arrrghhh | no mo winmo! | 00:23 |
| oddz | if only data worked ;/ | 00:24 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 00:24 |
| arrrghhh | we'll get it | 00:24 |
| jonpry | why is data broken? | 00:24 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry: that's a good question my friend. | 00:24 |
| arrrghhh | how can i help you answer that? | 00:24 |
| MassStash | +1 | 00:25 |
| arrrghhh | cuz... i'm not sure. everyone just has broken data on nand. radio works. | 00:25 |
| arrrghhh | i can sms | 00:25 |
| arrrghhh | make/receive calls | 00:25 |
| jonpry | data has worked on nand for long time no? | 00:25 |
| arrrghhh | we were never full nand | 00:25 |
| manekineko | only cdma people have tried nand so far right? | 00:25 |
| manekineko | didn't ACL strip out a bunch of code related to GSM? | 00:25 |
| jonpry | well gsm doesn't boot | 00:25 |
| manekineko | wonder if he might have overstripped something | 00:25 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps | 00:26 |
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| arrrghhh | why was he stripping code anyways? | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | mortis531: if you're talking about a cab that's probably an old thread. | 00:26 |
| jonpry | data works over some kind of ppp connection right? | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry: yes | 00:26 |
| manekineko | perhaps related to all those random gsm related errors we get on cdma devices? | 00:27 |
| manekineko | I thought he wanted to just clean things up | 00:27 |
| mortis531 | yeah i have the touch pro 2 htc an had to get a new 1 so the cab i installed on the sd card | 00:27 |
| arrrghhh | mortis531: i just said the cab is oooold | 00:27 |
| arrrghhh | and probably broken. | 00:27 |
| jonpry | arrrghhh, do you know if it is trying to bring up the interface and fails, or just not trying? | 00:28 |
| manekineko | people that use the cab seem to run into a lot of random problems | 00:28 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry: i honestly don't know. | 00:28 |
| mortis531 | ok so im going to have to delet it an run the rar with the gen y dual boot | 00:29 |
| arrrghhh | i'd recommend a newer build | 00:29 |
| mortis531 | where would i find a newer build ? | 00:30 |
| mortis531 | do you have a link? | 00:30 |
| jonpry | arrrghhh, you have terminal capability? | 00:30 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 00:31 |
| arrrghhh | 1 sec | 00:31 |
| jonpry | "/bin/pppd | 00:31 |
| jonpry | /dev/smd1 defaultroute" | 00:31 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951962 | 00:31 |
| arrrghhh | mortis531: ^^^ | 00:31 |
| mortis531 | thank you | 00:31 |
| mortis531 | do i need the full bundle or just the system.ext2 | 00:35 |
| manekineko | remember when dingbat was in here earlier asking about 3D unimplemented functions? | 00:35 |
| MassStash | arrrghhh, which mods are the ones that work? | 00:35 |
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| manekineko | there does in fact seem, at least at first glance, to be something wrong with our implementation of 3D | 00:35 |
| natemcnutty_ | arrrghhh: just got back from dinner and saw a couple questions about nand | 00:36 |
| arrrghhh | mortis531: if you don't have anything the full bunlde | 00:36 |
| arrrghhh | bundle | 00:36 |
| arrrghhh | natemcnutty_: what's up | 00:36 |
| natemcnutty_ | the reason half our crap is broken is because we don't have a rootfs anymore | 00:36 |
| manekineko | I installed driver files that they use on the Hero/Cliq/other real MSM7200A devices | 00:36 |
| arrrghhh | boominSVX is good | 00:36 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:36 |
| manekineko | and then ran OpenGL 3D Showcase, which is a set of tests for OpenGL | 00:36 |
| natemcnutty_ | we now only have initrd.gz and then system | 00:36 |
| arrrghhh | natemcnutty_: i know it was collapsed, it was demolished? | 00:36 |
| natemcnutty_ | yup, entirely gone | 00:36 |
| manekineko | those tests all pass on their system apparently, I asked Hero user on XDA | 00:36 |
| mortis531 | i have android already on my sd card just need to get the icon to boot it up | 00:37 |
| manekineko | but on ours, a number show glitching with logcats showing unimplemented functions | 00:37 |
| natemcnutty_ | since our builds only work on rhodium, why bother having the support for all those other devices | 00:37 |
| manekineko | and others force close | 00:37 |
| natemcnutty_ | ACL merged all the files from rootfs into either data or system | 00:37 |
| natemcnutty_ | I still think there is a lot of cleanup to do regarding that, but the not being able to boot was kind of hindering me from being able to do any testing :P | 00:38 |
| arrrghhh | mortis531: haret.exe | 00:38 |
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| natemcnutty_ | Also, as far as not having root access, I believe that is correct as well. I think init is not properly installing busybox and setting up su | 00:39 |
| natemcnutty_ | we had to tweak init.rc a bit and some other stuff, but luckily, I have all day off tomorrow, and I think I'm going to be snowed in | 00:39 |
| mortis531 | ok i got it now srry just a little lost with this but i think i have it now | 00:40 |
| arrrghhh | mortis531: np ask questions if you got 'em | 00:40 |
| mortis531 | kk it is booting up on the new phone but by doing this way i dont have the icon in my aps window right | 00:42 |
| arrrghhh | in winmo? | 00:43 |
| mortis531 | yeah | 00:43 |
| arrrghhh | that's up to you | 00:43 |
| mortis531 | ok how do i get the android boot icon to the window side of the phone | 00:44 |
| arrrghhh | i think there's some folder in winmo | 00:45 |
| arrrghhh | that you put shortcuts in | 00:45 |
| mortis531 | kk | 00:45 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry: uhm.... /bin/pppd not found | 00:46 |
| MassStash | commencing installing of muthafukin' nandroid.... | 00:46 |
| jonpry | ... /rootfs/bin/pppd ? | 00:47 |
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| jonpry | but yeah missing a pppd will certainly take out a data connection | 00:47 |
| arrrghhh | oh is that in the rootfs | 00:47 |
| arrrghhh | shit | 00:48 |
| arrrghhh | i think a lot of things were ripped :/ | 00:48 |
| mortis531 | ok at this point i have 1 more question is the a keybord fix because (A) is (Q) and (W) is (X) | 00:48 |
| MassStash | i like how the bad blocks are stated there :) | 00:48 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 00:48 |
| arrrghhh | mortis531: are you selecting the correct startup.txt? | 00:48 |
| arrrghhh | what RHOD do you have? | 00:48 |
| mortis531 | RHOD? | 00:49 |
| MassStash | oh my... | 00:49 |
| arrrghhh | you said you have a Touch Pro2 right? | 00:49 |
| mortis531 | yes | 00:49 |
| arrrghhh | ok.. | 00:50 |
| arrrghhh | is it a branded one? | 00:50 |
| arrrghhh | like a sprint | 00:50 |
| arrrghhh | or verizon | 00:50 |
| mortis531 | it is from us cellular | 00:50 |
| arrrghhh | fawk | 00:50 |
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| arrrghhh | i think they steal sprint's junk | 00:50 |
| arrrghhh | so probably RHOD400 | 00:50 |
| arrrghhh | did you select that startup.txt? | 00:50 |
| byrnsey88_ | hey i am having trouble with my GPS on my rhod500 | 00:51 |
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| byrnsey88_ | it crashes to windows when i try to locate myself | 00:51 |
| arrrghhh | byrnsey88_: did you run quickgps in winmo before trying gps? | 00:51 |
| arrrghhh | Oo | 00:52 |
| mortis531 | well what i did was pick the 1 that most looked like my phone and im thinking it was the rhod700 but i didnt get the boot window this time | 00:52 |
| arrrghhh | 700 | 00:52 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:52 |
| byrnsey88_ | @arrrghhh would that stop it from crashing? | 00:52 |
| Nautis | NAND sexy | 00:52 |
| arrrghhh | crashing | 00:52 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 00:52 |
| mortis531 | it was the 1 that would boot up | 00:52 |
| arrrghhh | what kernel are you on? | 00:52 |
| stinebd | son of a bitch kernel | 00:53 |
| arrrghhh | & system image? | 00:53 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:53 |
| stinebd | i can't get mtd working at all | 00:53 |
| byrnsey88_ | kernel 1262 | 00:53 |
| MassStash | natemcnutty, i changed the keymap in the android update yet no reflection of the change was shown when android finally booted... | 00:53 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd: suck | 00:53 |
| stinebd | works fine with nate's kernel | 00:53 |
| stinebd | wish i knew what the fucking difference was | 00:53 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:53 |
| byrnsey88_ | it has been doing it with every kernel i have tried for past month | 00:53 |
| arrrghhh | byrnsey88_: has it always crashed? what system image? | 00:53 |
| arrrghhh | damn | 00:54 |
| arrrghhh | new data.img? he | 00:54 |
| arrrghhh | h | 00:54 |
| byrnsey88_ | froyo x red the latest one | 00:54 |
| Nautis | yay | 00:54 |
| byrnsey88_ | it used to work back in the summer | 00:54 |
| arrrghhh | can't help you then :D | 00:54 |
| stinebd | we don't support froyo x | 00:54 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 00:54 |
| byrnsey88_ | it had done it with xdandroid though too | 00:55 |
| arrrghhh | had | 00:55 |
| byrnsey88_ | i keep trying different ones hoping maybe it would work | 00:55 |
| arrrghhh | when | 00:55 |
| arrrghhh | natemcnutty_: so it appears pppd was just ripped out... | 00:56 |
| byrnsey88_ | frx03 | 00:56 |
| byrnsey88_ | had crashed | 00:56 |
| stinebd | [ 7.518768] #MTD# parts in atag = 0 | 00:56 |
| arrrghhh | frx04? | 00:56 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:56 |
| stinebd | that could do it | 00:56 |
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| byrnsey88_ | will give it another shot | 00:57 |
| byrnsey88_ | also reloaded my windows rom | 00:57 |
| byrnsey88_ | the latest mighty rom | 00:57 |
| arrrghhh | quickgps helps lock time | 00:57 |
| arrrghhh | immensely | 00:57 |
| natemcnutty_ | arrrghhh: ahhh, I was just relying on ACL for that part | 00:57 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 00:58 |
| natemcnutty_ | and jonpry thanks for catching that | 00:58 |
| arrrghhh | removed a little too much eh | 00:58 |
| natemcnutty_ | MassStash: the keyboard should be autoassigned based on your model | 00:58 |
| natemcnutty_ | if not, then ACL may have ripped that part out of init | 00:58 |
| byrnsey88_ | will try to redo it here with frx04 and let you know my results | 00:59 |
| MassStash | natemcnutty_, from the keymaps folder in the androidupdate.tgz? | 01:01 |
| stinebd | oy vey acl... "I didnt even know people use that build script .. I think everyone is mature enough to know how to compile a kernel right?" | 01:01 |
| natemcnutty_ | nah, keymaps are all in system now | 01:01 |
| stinebd | :/ | 01:01 |
| MassStash | ok ok | 01:01 |
| MassStash | on nand, everyone elses graphics are a lil weird? | 01:03 |
| natemcnutty_ | no odd graphics that I know of | 01:04 |
| natemcnutty_ | but what is supposed to happen, is it grabs your machine_variant, then assigns the keymappings | 01:04 |
| arrrghhh | i haven't had graphics issues really | 01:04 |
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| MassStash | just sliding worspaces left n right its glitchy a whole verticle line bout 1/3 down on the screen | 01:05 |
| arrrghhh | not on mine... | 01:06 |
| MassStash | does wake not work very good for you's too? mine is very none responsive | 01:06 |
| arrrghhh | yea it's hard to wake | 01:06 |
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| MassStash | ok cool | 01:07 |
| MassStash | thats kinda what acl's working on i believe with the kernel shineing and all | 01:07 |
| MassStash | natemcnutty_, those two lines you said to add to bottom of my tinboot result in no xip during compile...? | 01:10 |
| MassStash | without, all good | 01:10 |
| stinebd | natemcnutty_: do you happen to know which version of init.android is being used in the current nand initrd? i believe it might be froyo's | 01:10 |
| natemcnutty_ | yeah, wake is not very good for me either | 01:11 |
| stinebd | which would likely explain my boot failures | 01:11 |
| natemcnutty_ | Also, I'm using an older system | 01:11 |
| natemcnutty_ | ah, yes, it is the froyo build | 01:11 |
| MassStash | stinebd, you know bout bootenv git right? | 01:11 |
| natemcnutty_ | stinebd: we have the bootevn git | 01:11 |
| MassStash | http://gitorious.org/tinboot-for-linux-msm/bootenv | 01:12 |
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| natemcnutty_ | MassStash: XIP only really has two lines that matter | 01:12 |
| stinebd | yes i know but the history on that file is lacking | 01:12 |
| natemcnutty_ | I'd have to go grab my dev laptop to post those though | 01:13 |
| natemcnutty_ | stinebd: that is very true | 01:13 |
| natemcnutty_ | I don't know if that is the one from rootfs | 01:13 |
| natemcnutty_ | or the one from vogue's bootenv | 01:13 |
| natemcnutty_ | or from kaiser's clone of vogue's for that matter | 01:13 |
| natemcnutty_ | the tinboot code is a little bit ugly right now. I'm hoping to clean that whole thing up tomorrow | 01:14 |
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| mortis531 | what net framwork should i be using | 01:21 |
| arrrghhh | for what? | 01:22 |
| arrrghhh | haret doesn't need anything like that | 01:22 |
| mortis531 | well i found out how to set it up to run the adroid boot screen but it said i need a diff net framwork to run it | 01:23 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 01:24 |
| arrrghhh | haret doesn't need it | 01:24 |
| mortis531 | kk | 01:24 |
| byrnsey88_ | ok so put frx04 on mt sd and booted to it | 01:28 |
| mortis531 | kk got that figuerd out and im using rhod100_fr | 01:28 |
| byrnsey88_ | it crashed after a little bit when i hit the app drawer | 01:29 |
| arrrghhh | byrnsey88_: have you considered a different SD? | 01:29 |
| Nautis | xdandroid boot screen on tiad blazn.. ruh roh | 01:30 |
| byrnsey88_ | yes just had formatted another not quick format | 01:30 |
| byrnsey88_ | and it stopped at the creating data.img | 01:30 |
| arrrghhh | it will while it does | 01:30 |
| arrrghhh | how long did you wait? | 01:30 |
| byrnsey88_ | well usually the cursor is flashing | 01:31 |
| byrnsey88_ | it was solid | 01:31 |
| mortis531 | do i want to enable overclock | 01:31 |
| arrrghhh | do you? | 01:32 |
| arrrghhh | i don't | 01:32 |
| arrrghhh | try it | 01:32 |
| mortis531 | i have been running my old phone withit enabled | 01:33 |
| mortis531 | but only had it for a mo befor the end key wouldnt work lol | 01:34 |
| mortis531 | that is why i got the new phone | 01:34 |
| byrnsey88_ | is it the hp format tool what to try to format with? | 01:34 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 01:34 |
| arrrghhh | that's what i recommend to windows users | 01:34 |
| arrrghhh | full format, FAT32. | 01:34 |
| byrnsey88_ | right | 01:34 |
| byrnsey88_ | my sd card does not show up as an option | 01:49 |
| byrnsey88_ | in th eformat tool | 01:49 |
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| natemcnutty_ | stinebd: you still there? | 02:06 |
| stinebd | yes sir | 02:06 |
| natemcnutty_ | which init.android should I be testing with? | 02:07 |
| natemcnutty_ | the one off eclair-rootfs? | 02:07 |
| stinebd | yes but you'll want to sync up the sysinit.rc with the current init.froyo.rc | 02:08 |
| natemcnutty_ | k, working on making sure all of our files are from xdandroid | 02:10 |
| natemcnutty_ | also bringing pppd back over since that is why we have no data right now | 02:11 |
| natemcnutty_ | jonpry caught that one | 02:11 |
| stinebd | i'm a little confused about the partition table | 02:13 |
| natemcnutty_ | cool, what's up? | 02:18 |
| stinebd | as it is, the only way to edit it is hexing rhod_payload? | 02:18 |
| natemcnutty_ | yeah, that's the way they do it on winmo as well | 02:19 |
| stinebd | ok | 02:19 |
| stinebd | i looked at the kernel source and found the cmdline mtdparts stuff in tinboot is a clever decoy | 02:19 |
| natemcnutty_ | learned everything from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=438676 | 02:19 |
| stinebd | yeah i've been reading that too | 02:19 |
| natemcnutty_ | I tried removing the fatfs, and it refuses to boot on my device | 02:20 |
| natemcnutty_ | oh, and how important is dropbear? | 02:21 |
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| natemcnutty_ | like, should I make an effort to fit it into initrd? | 02:21 |
| stinebd | no | 02:22 |
| natemcnutty_ | it's a bummer, I'd rather just use the bin from rootfs, but that busybox doesn't have flash_erase support | 02:23 |
| natemcnutty_ | I'll be looking at whether we should just use the existing busybox and put the flash_erase I compiled into bin and instead of trying to merge it into busybox | 02:24 |
| natemcnutty_ | as it is, the applet for busybox is way out of date for the mtd utils | 02:24 |
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| natemcnutty_ | sqllite3 important? | 02:39 |
| arrrghhh | i thought it was necessary | 02:43 |
| stinebd | holy crap i've been up for over a day now | 02:44 |
| stinebd | nice | 02:44 |
| natemcnutty_ | lol | 02:44 |
| arrrghhh | starting to feel delirious? | 02:45 |
| stinebd | natemcnutty_: what's the old method to build the nbh that you referenced in your post about the partition table changes? | 02:45 |
| natemcnutty_ | just a sec, I'll post it | 02:45 |
| natemcnutty_ | like Wozzer had it here: http://gitorious.org/tinboot-for-linux-msm/tinboot-linux-msm/blobs/12a1bc2cff2f60aa35dafca76e1b3ee5f0ade4db/makenbh.sh | 02:48 |
| natemcnutty_ | although, that script needs a tiny bit of fixing for yang and paths | 02:48 |
| stinebd | ah perfect | 02:49 |
| stinebd | thanks | 02:49 |
| natemcnutty_ | sure thing | 02:49 |
| natemcnutty_ | wishing I had brought my work lappy home with me | 02:49 |
| natemcnutty_ | it has my new scripts on it, and I totally forgot to copy them into my dropbox :( | 02:49 |
| arrrghhh | aw | 02:50 |
| arrrghhh | well thanks again for the NAND magic nate. bedtime. cya guys later | 02:51 |
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| stinebd | :( | 02:55 |
| stinebd | must be something wrong with my kernel or something | 02:56 |
| natemcnutty_ | you using ACL's tree? | 02:56 |
| stinebd | yeah | 02:56 |
| stinebd | for whatever reason it's not picking up on the partitions | 02:57 |
| natemcnutty_ | so it's sh buildxip.sh rhod | 02:57 |
| natemcnutty_ | then sh buildnbh.sh rhod | 02:57 |
| natemcnutty_ | although, I crammed everything into a single script | 02:58 |
| stinebd | yeah i've got the process down | 02:58 |
| stinebd | i've done it through scripts and manually and it's the same result every time | 02:58 |
| stinebd | tried with the original payload, with yours that has the new table... no difference | 02:59 |
| natemcnutty_ | i just made a couple changes to my full build script. I'll toss it up on dropbox in a sec | 03:01 |
| stinebd | [ 7.518768] #MTD# parts in atag = 0 | 03:03 |
| natemcnutty_ | hrm | 03:03 |
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| natemcnutty_ | did my NBH work OK for you though? | 03:08 |
| stinebd | yeah | 03:08 |
| natemcnutty_ | k, gonna gzip up my tinboot folder with the build script in just a minute. finishing a compile right now | 03:08 |
| stinebd | heh you dont have to, i'll get it eventually | 03:10 |
| natemcnutty_ | gonna do it anyway, cause I'm cleaning it up for ACL | 03:12 |
| natemcnutty_ | making people figure out the scripts kinda hinders som | 03:13 |
| natemcnutty_ | some* | 03:13 |
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| stinebd | ah progress, it doesn't boot now | 03:16 |
| stinebd | yay i saw parts | 03:17 |
| stinebd | weird | 03:18 |
| stinebd | mrproper on the kernel made it happy i guess | 03:18 |
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| stinebd | should've tried that earlier | 03:18 |
| natemcnutty_ | hehe, over my head on that one | 03:18 |
| stinebd | make clean on roids | 03:18 |
| stinebd | awesome it tries to start services now | 03:27 |
| stinebd | ok i'm gonna head to bed and fight with init tomorrow. thanks natemcnutty_, sorry for wasting your time :) | 03:28 |
| natemcnutty_ | haha, you could never waste my time ;) | 03:29 |
| natemcnutty_ | thanks for everything you do | 03:29 |
| natemcnutty_ | see ya tomorrow | 03:29 |
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| jectives | hello | 11:13 |
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| L_miller | arrrghhh - how is nand? | 11:32 |
| arrrghhh | lol jeebus | 11:33 |
| L_miller | lol. | 11:33 |
| arrrghhh | gotta ask me in two different rooms eh? | 11:33 |
| arrrghhh | just getting bombarded. | 11:33 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 11:33 |
| arrrghhh | NAND was good. evidently ACL ripped out pppd | 11:33 |
| arrrghhh | he said it was in /system/bin | 11:33 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps it's just not linked properly | 11:33 |
| L_miller | lol yup. this was a better room. ;) | 11:33 |
| arrrghhh | i know nate is going to be futzing with this "all day" today :P | 11:33 |
| L_miller | yeah. That good. | 11:34 |
| L_miller | Still not sure How it works though... | 11:34 |
| L_miller | And why mine is not working. | 11:34 |
| arrrghhh | looks like we might have netloc for CDMA figured out | 11:34 |
| L_miller | :( | 11:34 |
| arrrghhh | at least the correct command to pass to the RIL | 11:34 |
| arrrghhh | you have a 500 right? | 11:34 |
| L_miller | Good! | 11:34 |
| L_miller | Yup. | 11:34 |
| arrrghhh | i should have you try it too | 11:34 |
| L_miller | ok. | 11:34 |
| arrrghhh | we've only had 400's try it AFAIK | 11:34 |
| arrrghhh | i tried it on nand last night :P | 11:34 |
| arrrghhh | worked great! | 11:35 |
| L_miller | great. | 11:35 |
| * L_miller is in bootloader currently. | 11:35 | |
| arrrghhh | oh fine. | 11:35 |
| arrrghhh | get into droid | 11:35 |
| arrrghhh | nand, haret i don't think it matters | 11:35 |
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| L_miller | ok. Give me a min or two. ;) | 11:35 |
| arrrghhh | take your time | 11:37 |
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| L_miller | going to try moving my starting location to 1000 and see it if boots first. ;) | 11:37 |
| * L_miller is too. | 11:37 | |
| arrrghhh | lol | 11:38 |
| arrrghhh | workin hard i see | 11:38 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 11:38 |
| emwe | L_miller: is there any tinboot howto/summary? | 11:39 |
| emwe | hi btw ;) | 11:39 |
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| arrrghhh | heh | 11:40 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, nate was going to clean his up | 11:40 |
| arrrghhh | lots of crap changing with it | 11:40 |
| arrrghhh | lots of crap to change | 11:40 |
| arrrghhh | i think acl ripped out all the GSM stuff as well | 11:40 |
| L_miller | emwe - No not that I'm aware of. | 11:41 |
| L_miller | arrrghhh - this worked for me. :) | 11:42 |
| L_miller | 0x1000 | 11:42 |
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| arrrghhh | k | 11:42 |
| emwe | what happens if the flash doesn't boot afterwards, what do you guys do then? | 11:43 |
| L_miller | Let me know if you want to give it a try? | 11:43 |
| emwe | take out sd, put another xxxxIMG.NBH and reflash? | 11:43 |
| L_miller | We cry... | 11:43 |
| L_miller | lol yeah. | 11:43 |
| emwe | geez | 11:43 |
| emwe | i understand all building is possible in *nix, right? | 11:43 |
| arrrghhh | lol indeed | 11:43 |
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| arrrghhh | mSD to USB converter ftw | 11:44 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, yea with wine | 11:44 |
| L_miller | pretty much as long as you don't change the boot location. you will be ok. | 11:44 |
| arrrghhh | you have to muck with the nbh with some yang executable | 11:44 |
| arrrghhh | works fine under wine tho | 11:44 |
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| L_miller | arrrghhh - if you want to test... http://www.mediafire.com/?ih5qfy47kdcuy3n | 11:46 |
| emwe | oh man. i think i am not going to eval that yet ;) | 11:46 |
| emwe | but good luck and thanks for spending your time with that ;) | 11:46 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, i'm confused, if nate's worked why aren't we just using it? | 11:46 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 11:46 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, you're such a trooper | 11:46 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 11:46 |
| L_miller | well... Not too sure. The way it is working now the tinboot is just placed randomly in the NBH... So I'm not sure it will work everytime. | 11:49 |
| L_miller | The way I'm doing it we can control where we place it. | 11:50 |
| L_miller | But If it don't work... Then... We will be using Nate's. :) | 11:50 |
| L_miller | This is also how cotulla is doing it. | 11:50 |
| arrrghhh | randomly? | 11:51 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't think nate was placing it randomly lol | 11:51 |
| L_miller | lol well... Not that I guess. | 11:52 |
| SpecR | F22: dude, ive just seen your last kernel update post, though i fail to see instructions on how to update to later kernels | 11:52 |
| L_miller | Just placed in a adress that does not match the tinboot code. of the start location 0x1000 | 11:53 |
| L_miller | but that's where I'm lost.... | 11:53 |
| arrrghhh | SpecR, autobuild | 11:53 |
| L_miller | Not saying that Nate's is worng. BTW. :) | 11:53 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, lol om | 11:53 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 11:53 |
| F22 | SpecR: Ask Arrrghhh. :P | 11:53 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 11:53 |
| arrrghhh | F22, sorry wasn't sure if you were around or not :P | 11:53 |
| arrrghhh | figured i'd answer in your absense :P | 11:54 |
| F22 | arrrghhh: np, i can't stick around long anyway. | 11:54 |
| SpecR | arrrghhh: about that black screen of death on RAPH800, after sooo many trial and error I figured to just let the screen with a fixed brightnes and not usind screen code lock and it fixed it | 11:54 |
| arrrghhh | SpecR, ? | 11:54 |
| SpecR | arrrghhh: we were talking bout BSD on RAPH800 a couple o weeks ago | 11:55 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 11:55 |
| arrrghhh | that device is such a PITA | 11:55 |
| arrrghhh | same with DIAM | 11:55 |
| SpecR | ok, how to use autobluid? is there a manual or so? | 11:56 |
| arrrghhh | click the download link | 11:56 |
| arrrghhh | other than that it's basically the same as updating any kernel | 11:56 |
| SpecR | heh | 11:56 |
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| F22 | his issue is probably opening up the .bz2 packages. | 12:01 |
| SpecR | nop | 12:01 |
| SpecR | got confused with linux autobuild and compiling, long ago since i dont do either | 12:03 |
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| F22 | well if you're good with that then the rest should be pretty straightforward. Hit the download link for the latest version of the kernel, open up the .bz2 package, then handle the two files inside just as you would otherwise. | 12:03 |
| arrrghhh | no need to compile with GlemSom around | 12:03 |
| phh | :) | 12:04 |
| SpecR | kay | 12:04 |
| GlemSom | huh? I DIDN | 12:04 |
| GlemSom | T DO IT | 12:04 |
| F22 | lol | 12:04 |
| arrrghhh | sure you did | 12:04 |
| GlemSom | What-ever it is.... :P | 12:04 |
| arrrghhh | you provided a great autobuild service | 12:05 |
| F22 | there are still no comments on your two latest kernels, it's all your fault. :P | 12:05 |
| GlemSom | pfft.. :P | 12:06 |
| GlemSom | Ohh, there's a bug! ffs.... retarded host upgraded PHP again! >:( | 12:07 |
| F22 | so there really is an issue with comments then? | 12:09 |
| GlemSom | yes... securimage is broken with latest PHP update | 12:16 |
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| arrrghhh | emwe, you still there? | 12:24 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: yes | 12:25 |
| arrrghhh | so i think with mankineko's help we have a fix for CDMA netloc | 12:25 |
| arrrghhh | i spoke briefly to wistilt2 about it, but fell asleep on the couch last night lol | 12:25 |
| arrrghhh | not sure if he's the right guy to bug about it, but it seems like it should be simple to implement just need to modify the RIL | 12:26 |
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| emwe | arrrghhh: just throw patches over if you guys have. | 12:26 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:26 |
| arrrghhh | that's the problem. | 12:27 |
| arrrghhh | i think i know what needs to get done, just no clue how to actually code it into the RIL | 12:27 |
| arrrghhh | or what section of the RIL it goes in | 12:27 |
| arrrghhh | we basically just proved that we can do it by passing commands directly to the radio... | 12:27 |
| emwe | getNeighboringCellIds | 12:28 |
| emwe | oh wait... err... | 12:30 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, i don't think i would be the right person to write the code | 12:30 |
| arrrghhh | i would love to help as much as i possibly can, but even if i could figure out how to get it to work in the RIL, it'll probably be quite messy :P | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry was talking about a 14 element array | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | and we calculated our location manually from the command | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | that's about as far as i am :P | 12:31 |
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| emwe | i think you are farther then me. i thought i already knew the hook where to put it... | 12:33 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | so who is the RIL guru? | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | phh? | 12:35 |
| phh | sssssshhhhhhhh | 12:35 |
| jonpry | i sort of get what needs to be done | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:35 |
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| arrrghhh | jonpry, better than I that's for sure :P | 12:35 |
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| emwe | coolio ;) | 12:35 |
| jonpry | but i don't really want to do it :p | 12:36 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:36 |
| phh | noone does | 12:36 |
| arrrghhh | if you can point me in the right direction i can try | 12:36 |
| jonpry | emwe does :) | 12:36 |
| arrrghhh | i'm sure the patch will get rejected even if i do manage to get it working lol | 12:36 |
| phh | arrrghhh: search for Location in sourcefile ? :D | 12:36 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 12:37 |
| emwe | jonpry: no, seems i just though i knew where it's supposed to be. | 12:37 |
| arrrghhh | phh, i don't think there is a place in the RIL for CDMA loc | 12:37 |
| phh | arrrghhh: there is | 12:37 |
| emwe | requestNeightboringCellIds is what it's triggering for gsm here | 12:37 |
| phh | just like for GSM loc | 12:37 |
| phh | ah bad name | 12:37 |
| jonpry | its part of requestregistration on cdma | 12:37 |
| emwe | requestregistrationstate? | 12:38 |
| jonpry | yeah | 12:38 |
| emwe | if so, then the cdma-else is empty :P | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | is that even the right file | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/android-htc-ril/blobs/diamond/htcgeneric-ril.c | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | ^^ | 12:38 |
| phh | jonpry: you're sure of that ... ? | 12:38 |
| jonpry | yes | 12:38 |
| phh | you're not going to request registration at every cell change | 12:38 |
| jonpry | well that is what is expected to return location on cdma | 12:39 |
| emwe | ah no. i hsould just look right. | 12:39 |
| jonpry | and it doesn't necessarily register anything, just returns the state | 12:39 |
| jonpry | which is constantly changing | 12:39 |
| jonpry | but cdma has to know it position or some crap to decode the data stream | 12:39 |
| jonpry | have to ask wistilt2 about that one | 12:40 |
| arrrghhh | heh perhaps he was the right guy to bug then. | 12:40 |
| arrrghhh | he wanted to pick it up with me again today, i nodded off last night. | 12:40 |
| jonpry | this ril code is fowl | 12:41 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:41 |
| jonpry | its all string parsers, ugh | 12:41 |
| jonpry | 5000 lines of nothing | 12:42 |
| arrrghhh | poop that kinda works | 12:42 |
| jonpry | arrrghhh, [acl] said he found pppd | 12:44 |
| jonpry | its /system/bin/pppd | 12:44 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 12:44 |
| arrrghhh | i saw that | 12:44 |
| arrrghhh | i guess we just need to link to it | 12:45 |
| jonpry | so what happens if you /system/bin/pppd /dev/smd1 | 12:45 |
| arrrghhh | well | 12:45 |
| arrrghhh | i'm on haret... | 12:45 |
| jonpry | ic | 12:45 |
| arrrghhh | if you give me a few minutes | 12:45 |
| arrrghhh | i can try it | 12:45 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | not sure how i can report to you tho... | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | bleh. stupid work. | 12:47 |
| jonpry | maybe just do it later? | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | yea i guess. | 12:47 |
| jonpry | are you irc on phone? | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | my problem is i have to tether to get irc | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | kinda sorta :P | 12:47 |
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| arrrghhh | i mess with my routing table on my pc at work | 12:48 |
| arrrghhh | so i can work and IRC | 12:48 |
| arrrghhh | i need two RHOD's. | 12:48 |
| arrrghhh | one i can break and one that's 'production' lol | 12:49 |
| arrrghhh | does VZ still sell it? maybe i can break my work phone and convince them to buy me a RHOD lol | 12:50 |
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| jonpry | not sure | 12:55 |
| jonpry | maybe they will buy you a craigslist phone | 12:55 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:56 |
| arrrghhh | they usually buy the free or less than $20 phones | 12:57 |
| arrrghhh | i have some stupid samsung slider dumbphone. | 12:57 |
| arrrghhh | most of my co-workers got envy's or whatever. | 12:57 |
| jonpry | just tell [acl] you need a donor | 12:58 |
| arrrghhh | lol right | 12:58 |
| * arrrghhh the non-dev | 12:58 | |
| arrrghhh | does probably not deserve a donor :P | 12:59 |
| jonpry | that is for the donors to decide | 12:59 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 13:00 |
| arrrghhh | so requestSetLocationUpdates - isn't this the function we need to look at? | 13:00 |
| arrrghhh | yea, even if i wanted to shoehorn this in i don't think i'll be able to. | 13:03 |
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| L_miller | natemcnutty or natemcnutty_ ping | 13:31 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:31 |
| natemcnutty_ | hehe, what's up? | 13:31 |
| L_miller | lol I guess I could have done just one... ;) | 13:31 |
| * L_miller is such a noob. | 13:31 | |
| L_miller | Not much! Good job on getting the NAND working! | 13:32 |
| natemcnutty_ | nah, I think somehow my work computer hasn't gone to sleep | 13:32 |
| natemcnutty_ | so natemcnutty is over there | 13:32 |
| L_miller | yup! | 13:32 |
| arrrghhh | i wish i could easily get on IRC at work still. | 13:32 |
| L_miller | >>>>>>>> | 13:32 |
| arrrghhh | :( | 13:32 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, if you have some time to try that command | 13:33 |
| L_miller | yup. Still on NAND with no network though... | 13:33 |
| L_miller | What is it? | 13:33 |
| arrrghhh | doesn't matter | 13:33 |
| arrrghhh | it worked for me with no network | 13:33 |
| L_miller | kk | 13:33 |
| arrrghhh | so long as you have a functional radio. | 13:33 |
| L_miller | yup | 13:34 |
| arrrghhh | alright | 13:34 |
| arrrghhh | let me find the mess | 13:34 |
| arrrghhh | adb? | 13:34 |
| L_miller | yeah. | 13:34 |
| natemcnutty_ | L_miller: we figured out no network is because pppd was not being called | 13:34 |
| L_miller | I will use droid explorer if that is ok. | 13:34 |
| L_miller | yeah seen that. :) | 13:35 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, as long as you have adb running | 13:35 |
| arrrghhh | need shell access | 13:35 |
| L_miller | yup. | 13:35 |
| natemcnutty_ | yeah, and I don't think we have root right now either | 13:35 |
| L_miller | nope. | 13:35 |
| L_miller | :( | 13:35 |
| arrrghhh | no indeed | 13:35 |
| natemcnutty_ | I'm incorporating stinebd's stuff from rootfs into initrd | 13:35 |
| natemcnutty_ | like our init.android instead of the other one | 13:35 |
| natemcnutty_ | and su | 13:36 |
| L_miller | Thought ACL didn't want to place anything in the intrd besides the basics... | 13:36 |
| L_miller | Or are those?? | 13:36 |
| stinebd | init.android is still in initrd | 13:37 |
| stinebd | that's actually probably something that could be moved to system though | 13:37 |
| L_miller | Yes it is. | 13:38 |
| natemcnutty_ | cool | 13:38 |
| natemcnutty_ | I guess he wants to move whatever we can into system so we can use the androidupdate.tgz to fix up system and not have to touch initrd muc | 13:38 |
| natemcnutty_ | much* | 13:38 |
| L_miller | BasBasically we want anything that should not change in the future in the initrd. Other than the kernel. | 13:39 |
| stinebd | if we were to merge the system.img and root.img (not our rootfs) that the android build system spits out, into a single filesystem we could simplify the initrd a bit | 13:39 |
| natemcnutty_ | I just wasn't sure if we needed su or init.android in the initrd | 13:39 |
| natemcnutty_ | yeah, and I think that's what the Vogue did to simplify their NAND work | 13:39 |
| L_miller | yup. The less updates the better. ;) | 13:39 |
| L_miller | For NAND. | 13:40 |
| natemcnutty_ | btw, I did upload my tinboot with the latest modules and zImage last night | 13:41 |
| natemcnutty_ | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11790134/tinboot-linux-msm.zip | 13:41 |
| natemcnutty_ | and by zImage, I mean NBH | 13:42 |
| * L_miller is looking now. :) | 13:43 | |
| L_miller | wow. 27mB. | 13:43 |
| natemcnutty_ | sadly, duplicate data in forms that compression doesn't recognize | 13:44 |
| natemcnutty_ | but I have my fullbuild script in there with my tinboot only script | 13:44 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, finally found it. | 13:45 |
| arrrghhh | you ready? | 13:45 |
| natemcnutty_ | it has the latest NBH and has the initrd/zImage in the right folder ready for tinboot compile | 13:45 |
| arrrghhh | this will knock your radio out. | 13:45 |
| L_miller | lol yup. | 13:45 |
| L_miller | ok. | 13:45 |
| arrrghhh | stop ril-daemon | 13:45 |
| arrrghhh | cat /dev/smd0 & | 13:45 |
| arrrghhh | echo -e "AT+HTC_BSINFO?\r" > /dev/smd0 | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | you should get some output | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | +HTC_BSINFO: number, number, number, latittude, longitude, number, timestamp | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | so take the lat/long and divide each number by 14,400 | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | then slap them into Google Maps see what you get. | 13:46 |
| L_miller | cat /dev/smd0 ___ Just sitting here... | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | &? | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | gotta have the & on the end | 13:47 |
| L_miller | kk | 13:48 |
| arrrghhh | you should be able to copy/paste those three commands i put | 13:48 |
| L_miller | yeah... | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:49 |
| L_miller | didn't echo anything out... | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | fawk | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | do you get anything in the terminal? | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | funky output at all? | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | i was getting random crap | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | why did it work so well for me... | 13:52 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99 had issues as well | 13:52 |
| arrrghhh | he's on a 400 tho IIRC | 13:52 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, are you trying different variations? | 13:54 |
| arrrghhh | i noticed that my radio was completely dead after trying this. | 13:55 |
| arrrghhh | i had to reboot to get it back. | 13:55 |
| arrrghhh | on the phone that is. | 13:55 |
| arrrghhh | your silence is not golden in this situation :P | 13:56 |
| L_miller | lol sorry... Talking... Remember... at work. ;) | 13:57 |
| arrrghhh | natemcnutty_, you have a 500 as well right? | 13:57 |
| arrrghhh | lol np. | 13:57 |
| L_miller | my radio still works btw | 13:57 |
| arrrghhh | just hoping that i didn't blow up your phone. | 13:57 |
| L_miller | nope. | 13:57 |
| natemcnutty_ | that I do, but no adb | 13:57 |
| arrrghhh | did you stop ril-daemon? | 13:57 |
| arrrghhh | natemcnutty_, o... right. | 13:57 |
| arrrghhh | damn usb. | 13:57 |
| L_miller | yup. | 13:58 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, can you verify it's dead with PS? | 13:58 |
| arrrghhh | radio should die when you do that. | 13:58 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps you can restart the ril-daemon, i wasn't thinking very clearly yesterday. | 13:58 |
| arrrghhh | i guess you could try this on the phone directly, but it'd be a PITA :P | 13:59 |
| L_miller | ahh.. Just froze my phone?? | 13:59 |
| arrrghhh | i just want to make sure it works on all CDMA devices. | 13:59 |
| L_miller | rebooting**** | 13:59 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, it can. rpierce was having that problem yesterday. | 13:59 |
| L_miller | kk | 13:59 |
| arrrghhh | didn't freeze mine tho. i was able to do it in one shot tho. | 13:59 |
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| calisto | id like to ask the Devs about their progress on MAGDLR for TOPAZ...i have one that is available (mda compact v) for any beta versions :) ...cant wait to get rod of WM !!! | 14:04 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 14:04 |
| arrrghhh | MAGLDR isn't being ported to TOPA AFAIK | 14:04 |
| calisto | ??? | 14:04 |
| calisto | what do you mean by that | 14:04 |
| arrrghhh | Cotulla has a Rhodium | 14:04 |
| arrrghhh | that's what i mean by that | 14:04 |
| arrrghhh | besides, MAGLDR is closed source... | 14:04 |
| calisto | but the DFT, they are working on it, aren`t they? | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | no clue. | 14:06 |
| calisto | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=948859 | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | for RHOD i thought | 14:06 |
| L_miller | arrrghhh - still didn't work. | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, wtf. | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | what did it do? | 14:06 |
| L_miller | Nate can you terminal it. | 14:06 |
| L_miller | nothing... | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | where did it die? | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | you killed the ril-daemon | 14:07 |
| L_miller | besides freeze my phone. | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | radio should die on the phone | 14:07 |
| calisto | it will allow Android to be installed into NAND memory of TOPA | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | calisto, please leve. | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | leave* | 14:07 |
| calisto | ??? | 14:07 |
| calisto | why | 14:07 |
| L_miller | never died. | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | you're not contributing anything just begging for info that none of us have. | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, oO | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | that's odd. | 14:07 |
| L_miller | maybe it's because of no root? | 14:08 |
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| arrrghhh | L_miller, i did it yesterday on NAND | 14:08 |
| L_miller | ahhh... | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think i su'd | 14:08 |
| calisto | sorry i found this link on a forum saying i can ask questions here | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | can you try that? | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | calisto, you can | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | but not about MAGLDR | 14:08 |
| L_miller | did that too.. | 14:08 |
| L_miller | sorry. :( | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, damnit jim. | 14:08 |
| L_miller | yup. | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | well, maybe we'll just hope it works for vz | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | i've confirmed with several that it works on sprint. | 14:08 |
| calisto | ok bb | 14:09 |
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| arrrghhh | my buddy has a RHOD400 on sprint as well | 14:09 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i should try it on his | 14:09 |
| L_miller | maybe it's just my phone getting back at you for yours not flashing my NBH's! | 14:10 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 14:10 |
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| L_miller | :-p | 14:10 |
| arrrghhh | alright | 14:13 |
| arrrghhh | snagged my friend's tp2 | 14:13 |
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| arrrghhh | damn adb. | 14:22 |
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| L_miller | nate or arrrghhh - are you guys losing any data once you reboot? | 14:27 |
| L_miller | Just the widgets on the home screen? | 14:27 |
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| arrrghhh | L_miller, i didn't notice any data disappearing | 14:28 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't put anything on the home screen because tb didn't wokr | 14:28 |
| arrrghhh | work* | 14:28 |
| stinebd | i think my /data is surviving too | 14:28 |
| arrrghhh | but i installed tb | 14:28 |
| stinebd | i have quite a few tombstones in there now | 14:28 |
| L_miller | hummm. not sure what's causing the lose. Same with nates latest build... | 14:29 |
| L_miller | the widgets are just gone once I reboot. | 14:29 |
| L_miller | permissions maybe/ | 14:30 |
| L_miller | ? | 14:30 |
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| natemcnutty_ | it's probably a permissions thing. I thought I noticed that yesterday | 14:30 |
| natemcnutty_ | maybe part of not being root with the way we are doing some things | 14:30 |
| L_miller | ok atleast it not just me. | 14:32 |
| L_miller | thanks. :) | 14:32 |
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| arrrghhh | ok, now i'm mad. | 14:42 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, same thing on this phone... i can't stop ril-daemon, it keeps running. | 14:42 |
| arrrghhh | radio never dies. | 14:42 |
| L_miller | lol. | 14:42 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder if his radio version is different than mine... | 14:42 |
| L_miller | thought my latest NBH worked for you... | 14:42 |
| L_miller | :-d | 14:42 |
| stinebd | sweet jesus it's booting | 14:43 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:43 |
| arrrghhh | i really freakin want netloc. | 14:43 |
| arrrghhh | i had two phones connected via adb | 14:43 |
| arrrghhh | pc didn't like that, fyi :P | 14:43 |
| L_miller | lol | 14:43 |
| stinebd | ahem | 14:43 |
| stinebd | i have the hat trick right now | 14:44 |
| L_miller | stinebd did you change anything to get it to boot better? | 14:44 |
| stinebd | L_miller: i'm running gingerbread so i had to change a few things | 14:44 |
| L_miller | cool | 14:45 |
| stinebd | had to add ueventd to initrd | 14:45 |
| L_miller | And that helps with the reboot? | 14:45 |
| stinebd | had to fix perms after the first boot | 14:45 |
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| L_miller | k | 14:45 |
| stinebd | helps with the reboot? | 14:45 |
| L_miller | *reboots. like you were getting the other night | 14:46 |
| stinebd | ueventd keeps track of /dev nodes and permissions and is generally required with recent versions of android's init | 14:46 |
| stinebd | lol | 14:46 |
| stinebd | that was my stupidity | 14:46 |
| L_miller | really? | 14:46 |
| stinebd | someone left a sim card in there | 14:46 |
| L_miller | lmao! | 14:46 |
| stinebd | and i assumed they had taken it out when they were upgrading their device | 14:46 |
| L_miller | got ya! | 14:46 |
| arrrghhh | wtf | 14:47 |
| arrrghhh | stop ril-daemon never kills the radio. | 14:47 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder if this only works on nand | 14:47 |
| arrrghhh | Oo you were trying it on nand... bleh. | 14:47 |
| L_miller | lol | 14:47 |
| arrrghhh | well this is frustrating. | 14:48 |
| arrrghhh | why the hell did it work so nicely on my phone... | 14:48 |
| L_miller | join my world! | 14:49 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 14:49 |
| arrrghhh | i was there for nand :P | 14:49 |
| arrrghhh | no thanks, it sucks. | 14:49 |
| L_miller | yup! | 14:49 |
| L_miller | natemcnutty_ - you think we should just leave the partition table the way it is? | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, any ideas why stop ril-daemon doesn't work? | 14:50 |
| stinebd | why not just kill -9 it? | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | i'll try that | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | tried killall | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | doesn't work either... | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | i found the PID from ps | 14:51 |
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| arrrghhh | there is no ril-daemon process from what i can see, just "ril" | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | unless i'm just submitting this ps command incorrectly... | 14:52 |
| stinebd | holy butt it booted | 14:52 |
| natemcnutty_ | L_miller: yeah, we could try making it 4 MB instead of 8 MB for the fatfs, but it really won't matter | 14:53 |
| arrrghhh | i see /bin/pppd /dev/smd1 | 14:53 |
| natemcnutty_ | the nice thing is, that means we can start tinboot at 32 MB instead of 64 MB | 14:53 |
| natemcnutty_ | regain 32 MB back | 14:53 |
| arrrghhh | but no RIL or ril-daemon process | 14:53 |
| arrrghhh | grepping didn't seem to work (probably doing it wrong) | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | but looking thru the whole ps list, i don't see anything ril | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | ps -A invalid? | 14:55 |
| arrrghhh | bleh | 14:55 |
| L_miller | natemcnutty_ - I'm not sure why we can't start at 0x1000 like I'm trying to do... | 14:56 |
| natemcnutty_ | I phrased that totally wrong | 14:56 |
| natemcnutty_ | I mean, instead of starting our mtdparts 64 MB in, we can start at 32 MB in | 14:56 |
| natemcnutty_ | not actually changing anything in tinboot | 14:57 |
| natemcnutty_ | I think wozzer just added a buffer so we didn't overwrite any of the tinboot code | 14:57 |
| natemcnutty_ | really, we could probably start at 16 MB in, and I have fatfs ending at around 12 MB | 14:57 |
| L_miller | yeah.. sorry I was talking about tinboot. | 14:58 |
| L_miller | lol | 14:58 |
| L_miller | about the partition tables and all.. | 14:58 |
| natemcnutty_ | yeah, I think we can leave that alone now | 14:59 |
| natemcnutty_ | the advantage of using the nbtools like we are is it auto-adjusts the partition table based on the size of your payload | 15:00 |
| natemcnutty_ | if initrd and zImage grow, it doesn't mess up the partition table like it would using the vogue's catting method | 15:00 |
| L_miller | correct. But that could be adjusted in the tinboot code if they do grow. But I do see your point about it being automatic... :) | 15:01 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i'll try it on my phone again | 15:02 |
| arrrghhh | assuming it works i'll drop | 15:02 |
| arrrghhh | fawk | 15:02 |
| stinebd | sleep o death | 15:03 |
| natemcnutty_ | the panel doesn't collapse and wake up right every time | 15:03 |
| arrrghhh | ok i can't stop the RIL on my phone now. wtf. | 15:03 |
| stinebd | not at all for me | 15:03 |
| natemcnutty_ | if you turn it on and the screen doesn't power up, try sliding where the lock is | 15:03 |
| arrrghhh | or hitting menu | 15:04 |
| stinebd | yeah it doesn't even respond that way | 15:04 |
| stinebd | just a flood of pegged cpu warnings on logcat | 15:04 |
| arrrghhh | that sounds bad. | 15:04 |
| arrrghhh | alright maybe my problem is doing these commands on the phone | 15:04 |
| arrrghhh | didn't think it would matter, but i guess i'll try thru adb, this definitely should drop me. | 15:05 |
| arrrghhh | ok... now i'm just confused. | 15:05 |
| arrrghhh | what have i done | 15:07 |
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| L_miller | stinebd - do you know if there is a way to check the raido version in android? | 15:12 |
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| stinebd | [ 487.294128] msmfb_pan_display timeout rerequest vsync | 15:16 |
| stinebd | [ 492.381622] msmfb_pan_display timeout waiting for frame start, 2 1 | 15:16 |
| stinebd | L_miller: heh, no idea sorry | 15:16 |
| xtremist | hey | 15:17 |
| xtremist | anyone here to help | 15:18 |
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| xtremist | hey | 15:29 |
| xtremist | m really confused whts the difference btwn u guys and nropeek builds | 15:29 |
| xtremist | ?? | 15:29 |
| L_miller | natemcnutty_ - My raido is 2.23.00vw. | 15:30 |
| L_miller | Had to flash back to winmo to do it... :( | 15:30 |
| L_miller | *find it | 15:30 |
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| natemcnutty_ | hmm, so first boot is great. but if I power off and back on, I'm not getting service | 15:33 |
| natemcnutty_ | tested with LauncherPro, and the icons are all staying just fine | 15:33 |
| natemcnutty_ | I'm betting it is permissions with the default shell | 15:33 |
| natemcnutty_ | nevermind, service just came back | 15:33 |
| L_miller | yeah adw launcher worked for me too just fine. | 15:33 |
| natemcnutty_ | took about 3 minutes to initialize | 15:33 |
| L_miller | system_server bug !!!! | 15:34 |
| xtremist | guys i hv one question i m using stock radio on diamond100 1.00.25.00 wht evr is it | 15:34 |
| xtremist | is it effective on battery | 15:34 |
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| L_miller | stinebd - Do you know what raido you are using by chance? | 15:35 |
| L_miller | arrrghhh - same Q? | 15:35 |
| arrrghhh | weird. one of the boots i was able to kill ril-daemon | 15:35 |
| arrrghhh | is there an easy way to check? only think i can think of is in bootloader | 15:36 |
| L_miller | You have to have winmo :( | 15:36 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 15:36 |
| arrrghhh | right it's on that page | 15:36 |
| arrrghhh | fawk | 15:36 |
| L_miller | on a reboot you will see the red number on the bottom. | 15:37 |
| xtremist | yup | 15:37 |
| xtremist | its 1.00.00.25 stock radio | 15:37 |
| xtremist | of diamond that comes with 1.93 rom | 15:37 |
| arrrghhh | but that's GSM | 15:37 |
| arrrghhh | netloc works on GSM | 15:38 |
| xtremist | 1.00.25.05 | 15:38 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 15:38 |
| xtremist | is radio | 15:38 |
| arrrghhh | don't care, your device is gsm | 15:38 |
| xtremist | m sying is it effective on battery ?? | 15:38 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, i found i wasn't able to do it on my phone either | 15:39 |
| xtremist | like i heard some says radio eats battery | 15:39 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, and then one of the boots on my buddy's phone it did work. | 15:39 |
| L_miller | ok. | 15:39 |
| arrrghhh | so this method might not be the best. i'm kinda hoping we can just get the code shoehorned in there and it'll "just work" | 15:39 |
| arrrghhh | problem now is getting the code shoehorned in there... | 15:39 |
| arrrghhh | wistilt2 seemed interested in helping, and jonpry seemed to have a pretty good handle on how to do it... | 15:40 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 15:41 |
| arrrghhh | probably going to BSOD this thing again. | 15:41 |
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| arrrghhhTP2 | Well that was fun. | 15:43 |
| L_miller | yeah! Well I flashed back to winmo... Tried flashing to my nand roms again and can't get it to boot. :) | 15:43 |
| * arrrghhhTP2 didn't learn from the first time | 15:43 | |
| L_miller | Something to play wiht! | 15:43 |
| arrrghhhTP2 | Lol | 15:43 |
| L_miller | with*! | 15:43 |
| arrrghhhTP2 | You're insane, sir. | 15:43 |
| L_miller | :-d | 15:44 |
| arrrghhhTP2 | Bleh. Stupid netloc. | 15:44 |
| L_miller | So I'm guessing some stuff was not getting cleared... | 15:45 |
| arrrghhhTP2 | I was so excited when it worked so well for me yesterday... | 15:45 |
| arrrghhhTP2 | I dunno | 15:45 |
| L_miller | lmao... | 15:45 |
| arrrghhhTP2 | Maybe it was because it was a fresh boot | 15:45 |
| arrrghhhTP2 | I did that work yesterday on my first successful NAND boot | 15:45 |
| arrrghhhTP2 | Perhaps I'll try it on my buddy's phone w/a new data.img... | 15:46 |
| arrrghhhTP2 | I wish I knew more about the RIL code | 15:47 |
| arrrghhhTP2 | I'd rather write the code and test that way... | 15:47 |
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| stinebd | then do it baby | 16:00 |
| stinebd | learn | 16:00 |
| arrrghhhTP2 | I will attempt | 16:00 |
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| arrrghhhTP2 | But the amount of guidance I'll require probably makes it not worth it lol | 16:00 |
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| Detule | hm running the stop ril-daemon commands on my rhod400 have produced an sod as well | 16:12 |
| L_miller | ok done screwing around today... :) | 16:20 |
| stinebd | How are you..? Well request you to let me know which file of Android mobile operating system is work for HTC TYTN II and HTC P3450 | 16:20 |
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| Tandyman100 | Hi guys! | 16:25 |
| Tandyman100 | Anyone here have a non-working Touch Pro? | 16:25 |
| Tandyman100 | Mine works fine electrically, but it's really beat-up, and the hinge is wobbly to the point of me worrying about it breaking | 16:25 |
| Tandyman100 | so I'd like to find a touch pro that is sound physically and visually, but broken electrically, and transfer my working guts into the donor. | 16:25 |
| stinebd | i'd suggest searching ebay for a dummy/display model | 16:27 |
| Tandyman100 | Dummy models will work with 'actual' guts? | 16:27 |
| Tandyman100 | I try to avoid ebay, that's why I asked here first ;) | 16:27 |
| stinebd | maybe | 16:27 |
| stinebd | i've never owned a dummy | 16:27 |
| xtremist | hey whts tht huawei rom u8150 :S | 16:28 |
| xtremist | whts the difference ? | 16:28 |
| stinebd | ask huawei | 16:28 |
| stinebd | they're the ones with the source code | 16:29 |
| Tandyman100 | I'll take a look at dummies :) | 16:29 |
| xtremist | no like there is way to install huawei rom in neopeek | 16:29 |
| xtremist | so m just asking whts the differnce between ur build and neopeeks :S | 16:30 |
| stinebd | ask neopeek | 16:30 |
| xtremist | so rude man | 16:30 |
| stinebd | i'm not being rude | 16:30 |
| stinebd | you're asking the wrong people | 16:30 |
| stinebd | i've never used neopeek's stuff | 16:30 |
| xtremist | i ws just askign the difference | 16:30 |
| xtremist | anyways ok | 16:30 |
| xtremist | asking* | 16:30 |
| xtremist | :) | 16:30 |
| Tandyman100 | argh, no display models on ebay. Rats | 16:31 |
| Tandyman100 | If I had the money, I'd just get a touch pro 2 | 16:31 |
| * Tandyman100 wonders if arrrghhh would sell his | 16:31 | |
| Tandyman100 | On a different note: anyone know if I could get my sprint touch pro onto Virgin Mobile? Their $25 unlimited plan is awesome, but their phones SUCK | 16:32 |
| xtremist | u guys are lucky u hv cdma also | 16:36 |
| xtremist | and company offers phone :S | 16:36 |
| stinebd | arrrghhhTP2: is your touchscreen calibration off when using nand? | 16:38 |
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| Tandyman100 | stinebd, you killed him! ;) | 16:41 |
| stinebd | he's sick of helping us noobs :( | 16:41 |
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| Tandyman100 | heh | 16:49 |
| Tandyman100 | they're dropping like flies! | 16:49 |
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| arrrghhh | man my phone did not like being on IRC for that long. | 17:01 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, i didn't notice any TS calib issues on NAND, no. | 17:01 |
| stinebd | hmm | 17:01 |
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| arrrghhh | Tandyman100, TP2 is not for sale :P | 17:02 |
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| eval- | hola | 17:03 |
| arrrghhh | boy howdy i hope you speak english | 17:04 |
| emwe | stinebd: arrrghhh: dunno if it's of interesst. just drove to a 30min away town and back again with .35 and gb running. when running the old .27 the device usually froze at a specifc town on the road no matter what direction. today it survived both directions. looks like there is issues on .27 with network/cell switch or bad connection area oopses. my topa usually froze. | 17:05 |
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| emwe | just fyi. | 17:05 |
| KrassRattus | hello | 17:05 |
| arrrghhh | KrassRattus, so what's the problem | 17:05 |
| eval- | do you know, perchance | 17:05 |
| arrrghhh | let me guess, cab doesn'tw ork? | 17:05 |
| arrrghhh | doesn't work | 17:06 |
| KrassRattus | i have a HTC Touch Pro 2 and i want to install CAB - Android v2.2.1 Froyo: Reference | 17:06 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, so when can i run .35? | 17:06 |
| arrrghhh | KrassRattus, cab is broken | 17:06 |
| arrrghhh | don't use it | 17:06 |
| eval- | whether the linux-msm:htc-msm-2.6.27 branch has things backported from newer kernels that were necessary to support froyo/gingerbread? | 17:06 |
| stinebd | eval-: no | 17:06 |
| arrrghhh | KrassRattus, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951962 | 17:06 |
| KrassRattus | i have copy the files vom the zip file | 17:06 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: ehm, when some rhod maintainer steps and get's it going. just happy i got sound with mininaml changes, but long winding diffing and testing working. | 17:07 |
| eval- | stinebd: so basically, the android bits haven't changed since then? that's awesome | 17:07 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, hehe. so what's left for TOPA? | 17:07 |
| stinebd | not enough to keep android from working | 17:07 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: everything else honestly. | 17:07 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:07 |
| eval- | sweet =) thanks | 17:07 |
| arrrghhh | ic | 17:07 |
| emwe | stinebd: btw, what was it with gps for gb? | 17:07 |
| emwe | stinebd: that's not in the build, is it? | 17:07 |
| stinebd | emwe: probably not | 17:08 |
| stinebd | let me check quick | 17:08 |
| KrassRattus | thx arrrghhh | 17:08 |
| arrrghhh | np | 17:08 |
| KrassRattus | i testing | 17:08 |
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| emwe | stinebd: hardware/xdandroid/gps i mean. that's the gps lib rewrite you did for gb, right? | 17:08 |
| stinebd | right | 17:09 |
| stinebd | not really a rewrite | 17:09 |
| emwe | code moved to new api if you like ;) | 17:09 |
| emwe | haven't looked at it. time constraints. | 17:09 |
| emwe | is it working for you? | 17:10 |
| stinebd | no | 17:10 |
| emwe | ah | 17:10 |
| stinebd | it fails in jni at the status callback during initialization | 17:10 |
| emwe | the code deals with /dev/smd27 and nothng else, right? | 17:10 |
| stinebd | right | 17:10 |
| emwe | (just making sure it's worth having it a go with .35) | 17:10 |
| stinebd | actually | 17:11 |
| stinebd | i think they switched to rpc calls | 17:11 |
| emwe | "they"? | 17:11 |
| stinebd | phh and whoever else was involved in initial development | 17:11 |
| stinebd | bzo maybe | 17:11 |
| Tandyman100 | hi arrrghhh | 17:11 |
| Tandyman100 | long time no see | 17:11 |
| stinebd | it originally used nmea with /dev/smd27 but there was some problem with that | 17:12 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 17:12 |
| stinebd | lack of data or something | 17:12 |
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| emwe | stinebd: let's assume i have some time. just build and put into /system/lib/<somewhere-if-so-where> ? | 17:13 |
| stinebd | did i ever push that new rootfs? | 17:14 |
| eval- | another naive question... does every 'vendor' have to make their own rootfs? does the repo only build /system (.img?) | 17:14 |
| emwe | stinebd: last thing was the ril-fix i think... or? hm. | 17:14 |
| stinebd | emwe: let me push the new rootfs which decouples libs | 17:14 |
| emwe | oh so short before bed time ;) | 17:14 |
| stinebd | emwe: it should go to /system/lib/hw/libgps.xdandroid.so | 17:14 |
| stinebd | err | 17:15 |
| stinebd | no lib | 17:15 |
| stinebd | gps.xdandroid.so | 17:15 |
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| arrrghhh | KrassRattus, i don't accept unsolicited PM | 17:16 |
| KrassRattus | ok sry | 17:16 |
| emwe | stinebd: thanks for the info. and sensors, should there be a sensors.xdandroid.so? | 17:17 |
| arrrghhh | KrassRattus, did you follow the directions? | 17:17 |
| arrrghhh | grab the startup.txt | 17:17 |
| emwe | i only see sensors.default/goldfish.so | 17:17 |
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| arrrghhh | ts-calibration.txt, rename it. | 17:17 |
| stinebd | emwe: is your tree up-to-date? | 17:17 |
| KrassRattus | i hope | 17:17 |
| emwe | stinebd: updated i think 2 days ago | 17:18 |
| xdandroid | New rootfs available (20110224-3dd92b8) at: http://is.gd/N8ohrw -- Changes at: http://is.gd/2oqOhf | 17:18 |
| stinebd | device/xdandroid/msm/libsensors now installs as sensors.xdandroid.so | 17:18 |
| MassStash | arrrghhh, does git usually mess up dates like this? | 17:18 |
| MassStash | http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm | 17:18 |
| arrrghhh | dates like what? | 17:19 |
| MassStash | first two commit's year | 17:19 |
| emwe | MassStash: we had a year 2030 commits for ages, then it wen't away. | 17:19 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:19 |
| MassStash | huh ok... | 17:19 |
| emwe | perhaps the recent clone triggered it again or gito fixed it once and screwed again | 17:19 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think that's a git thing. | 17:19 |
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| arrrghhh | i don't know tho | 17:19 |
| MassStash | fasho | 17:19 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: i think it's a display issue. | 17:19 |
| stinebd | i think it's broke ass gitorious | 17:20 |
| MassStash | where we at with nand? kinda limbo phase...? | 17:20 |
| stinebd | nand is slow as crap | 17:20 |
| MassStash | saw the posible data fix... | 17:20 |
| arrrghhh | nand works | 17:20 |
| arrrghhh | pppd is in there | 17:20 |
| arrrghhh | just need to link to it correctly | 17:20 |
| MassStash | right right | 17:20 |
| MassStash | oh, my, god the sys was flyin fast lastnight when i booted nand for first time tho | 17:21 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 17:21 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't think so | 17:21 |
| arrrghhh | but it was the first boot | 17:21 |
| MassStash | man this shit is so weird how many dif results we get | 17:21 |
| arrrghhh | after a little while it settled out. i'd say on par with haret speed, if not a little slower. | 17:21 |
| stinebd | maybe it's just gingerbread :P | 17:21 |
| arrrghhh | methinks the kernel needs some lovin | 17:22 |
| MassStash | you: no graphics fuck ups but slow | 17:22 |
| MassStash | me: slighty borken lines 1/3 down from top of screen, but eeeeeverything like settings and shit was flying fast like first tim ei checked out nand on HD2 | 17:22 |
| arrrghhh | weird | 17:23 |
| MassStash | yea kernels way behind, but i was flying fast yo, swear ta god | 17:23 |
| arrrghhh | i haven't played with hd2. | 17:23 |
| Tandyman100 | What are you guys working on? | 17:23 |
| stinebd | android | 17:23 |
| Tandyman100 | An actually xdandroid ROM that doens't rely on haret? | 17:23 |
| stinebd | right | 17:23 |
| Tandyman100 | actual* | 17:23 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:23 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 17:23 |
| Tandyman100 | oh sweet | 17:24 |
| MassStash | buddy has one i help him fuck wit correctly, but haret was not the fastest and when i put magldr on it, takes blackberry times to boot but is fast as native droid devices i felt | 17:24 |
| arrrghhh | flashing Android to the phone | 17:24 |
| * Tandyman100 guesses not for Touch Pro | 17:24 | |
| arrrghhh | Tandyman100, RHOD only | 17:24 |
| Tandyman100 | nuts :P | 17:24 |
| * Tandyman100 has a RAPH800 | 17:24 | |
| arrrghhh | yea there's a guy in the monitor room with an hd2 | 17:24 |
| arrrghhh | he's happy with winmo | 17:24 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:24 |
| MassStash | lol he prolly likes the goverment too... | 17:24 |
| Tandyman100 | oy | 17:25 |
| * Tandyman100 is a winmo fanboy | 17:25 | |
| Tandyman100 | I wish I had an HD2, that's like my dream machine | 17:25 |
| MassStash | used to be hard winmo | 17:25 |
| stinebd | hey nice, adb remount works with nand | 17:25 |
| MassStash | w/ keyboard tho | 17:25 |
| MassStash | nice | 17:25 |
| KrassRattus | german here? | 17:26 |
| stinebd | and arrrghhh in case you're wondering, killall zygote still works fine for me | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | winmo fanboy | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | define "works fine" | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | cuz it worked for me | 17:26 |
| MassStash | are you using that rootfs in nand stine? | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | but once the system came back up it didn't seem too happy. | 17:26 |
| stinebd | very happy | 17:27 |
| stinebd | zygote loves to die | 17:27 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 17:27 |
| arrrghhh | there is no rootfs in nand | 17:27 |
| MassStash | right... | 17:27 |
| stinebd | perhaps its favorite thing to do | 17:27 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:27 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, haven't tried it on NAND tbh | 17:27 |
| arrrghhh | damn i really need another RHOD. | 17:27 |
| stinebd | oh jesus | 17:28 |
| stinebd | i see why it's slow | 17:28 |
| stinebd | i forgot to add copybit and gralloc to the packages list | 17:28 |
| emwe | gb slow? | 17:28 |
| stinebd | since we switched bootloader names | 17:28 |
| stinebd | yeah | 17:28 |
| emwe | ah coolio | 17:29 |
| stinebd | that might be my pseudo sleep of death issue too | 17:29 |
| emwe | the popup menus are so slow... froyo was so fast after deactivating that blur-thingy | 17:29 |
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| emwe | looking forward to it. but now need to go. | 17:29 |
| emwe | have fun peeps. | 17:30 |
| stinebd | k night | 17:30 |
| arrrghhh | gn | 17:31 |
| stinebd | nope, still can't wake | 17:32 |
| arrrghhh | user error | 17:33 |
| stinebd | definitely not this time | 17:33 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:33 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, i do have a question for you tho | 17:33 |
| arrrghhh | it's about the damned dialer again | 17:33 |
| arrrghhh | i know you said we use this crappy bland one because MDPI devices don't play nice with the "stock" dialer | 17:34 |
| arrrghhh | but is there a way to shoehorn the stock dialer into FRX04 for us HDPI folk? i'm not asking you to do it, just if it can be and and how ;) | 17:34 |
| arrrghhh | if it can be done | 17:34 |
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| stinebd | it can be done easily | 17:35 |
| stinebd | if you roll your own system | 17:35 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 17:35 |
| arrrghhh | what needs to change | 17:35 |
| arrrghhh | phone.apk? | 17:35 |
| stinebd | yes but it's a simple overlay change in the source tree | 17:36 |
| arrrghhh | crap it won't be signed if i roll my own | 17:36 |
| stinebd | one liner | 17:36 |
| stinebd | oh yeah now she's fast baby | 17:36 |
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| arrrghhh | Oo? | 17:36 |
| stinebd | gonna have to hack the calibration into initrd | 17:37 |
| stinebd | every boot i have to adb in and cat /sdcard/andboot.old/ts-calibration >/sys/class/input/input2/calibration_points | 17:38 |
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| arrrghhh | suck | 17:38 |
| arrrghhh | so what's the line i have to change? | 17:38 |
| arrrghhh | man i wish the dialer would just work for MDPI | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | i don't really want to have two different builds | 17:39 |
| stinebd | got your aosp tree handy? | 17:39 |
| stinebd | device/xdandroid/msm/overlay/packages/apps/Phone/res/values/config.xml set both existing keys to true | 17:39 |
| stinebd | then in aosp root make clean-Phone ; make Phone | 17:39 |
| stinebd | will spit out a new Phone.apk in out/target/product/msm/system/app | 17:40 |
| arrrghhh | oh nice | 17:41 |
| arrrghhh | load average 2.35 | 17:42 |
| arrrghhh | seems bad for a little phone. | 17:42 |
| stinebd | nah | 17:42 |
| arrrghhh | top doesn't show any one process pegging the proc | 17:43 |
| arrrghhh | but my phone has slowed down worse than when we had the sys_server bug | 17:43 |
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| arrrghhh | i guess i should soft reset. | 17:44 |
| arrrghhh | this is insanity | 17:44 |
| arrrghhh | can we force roaming? | 17:46 |
| arrrghhh | i see a way to disable data roaming.. | 17:46 |
| stinebd | lol force roaming? | 17:48 |
| arrrghhh | yea... | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | i guess airaves have always had issues with XDAndroid | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | and some dude is trying to troubleshoot. not sure how it's going to help him. | 17:50 |
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| stinebd | probably an apn thing no? | 17:52 |
| stinebd | is airaves gsm? | 17:52 |
| eval- | there is almost nothing in out/target/product/msm/root .. is this normal for an android repo build? where did the xda original rootfs come from? | 17:55 |
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| Tandyman100 | lol | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, just fired off of the hip on your rootfs change | 17:58 |
| arrrghhh | it's just code cleanup for GB right? | 17:58 |
| arrrghhh | nothing earth-shattering for end-users? | 17:58 |
| stinebd | the one i just pushed? | 17:58 |
| arrrghhh | yessir | 17:58 |
| stinebd | it's totally untested with the current gingerbread image | 17:58 |
| arrrghhh | what's it for tho | 17:58 |
| stinebd | before that, we were using /lib/froyo with gingerbread | 17:59 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 17:59 |
| stinebd | now we're using the libs in the system image | 17:59 |
| arrrghhh | ic | 17:59 |
| arrrghhh | so i was fairly correct | 17:59 |
| stinebd | it should probably work with that image we have now | 17:59 |
| stinebd | but i haven't tried it | 17:59 |
| arrrghhh | to answer your question about airave, they can be CDMA or GSm | 17:59 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 17:59 |
| KrassRattus | i need a instruction of german :-( | 17:59 |
| arrrghhh | KrassRattus, sorry dude i speak english. | 18:00 |
| stinebd | wo ist die toilette? | 18:00 |
| KrassRattus | lol | 18:00 |
| arrrghhh | can't really write directions in 223,323 different languages | 18:00 |
| eval- | =) | 18:00 |
| eval- | ich bin hamburger | 18:00 |
| KrassRattus | why not? | 18:00 |
| KrassRattus | :-) | 18:00 |
| eval- | aber ich spreche kiene deutsch =( | 18:00 |
| arrrghhh | KrassRattus, what's wrong? | 18:01 |
| arrrghhh | where are you getting stuck? | 18:01 |
| KrassRattus | when i copy the full bundle to the HTC TP 2 | 18:01 |
| KrassRattus | ist restart when loading android | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | you extracted all the files to the root (base) of your SD card? | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | or did you put it in a folder? | 18:02 |
| KrassRattus | wenn i installe the 2.2 BLAZIN its run | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | it comes in a folder "FRX04" | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | dude | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | that's not the link i gave you | 18:02 |
| KrassRattus | i extract it to ANDBOOT directory | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | ok... | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | so haret.exe is in the andboot directory? | 18:03 |
| KrassRattus | yes | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | along with some others like modules, system.ext2, zImage? | 18:03 |
| KrassRattus | yes | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | ok, did you change the startup.txt to reflect the directory change? | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | i can't remember if you need that or not with andboot, maybe you don't. | 18:03 |
| KrassRattus | in startup.txt? | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 18:03 |
| stinebd | eval-: to answer your question about rootfs, it's basically original development. it was originally based on the vogue rootfs (used for the same purpose as a boot wedge) but it's very much different now | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | rel_path=andboot | 18:03 |
| KrassRattus | ok wait i do it | 18:04 |
| arrrghhh | ok you know where that line goes rigth? | 18:04 |
| arrrghhh | right | 18:04 |
| KrassRattus | i hope | 18:04 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:05 |
| arrrghhh | between the quotes after cmdline= | 18:05 |
| arrrghhh | just make sure you have a space between each entry | 18:05 |
| KrassRattus | ok look | 18:05 |
| KrassRattus | i look | 18:05 |
| arrrghhh | you loo | 18:05 |
| arrrghhh | k | 18:05 |
| KrassRattus | set cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmvkeyb_toggle=off gsensor_axis=2,1,3 force_cdma=0 pm.sleep_mode=1 physkeyboard=rhod100_uk rel_path=andboot" | 18:06 |
| KrassRattus | so right? | 18:06 |
| arrrghhh | KrassRattus, yup | 18:06 |
| stinebd | beautiful | 18:06 |
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| arrrghhh | nailed it! | 18:06 |
| arrrghhh | was i just making up the = after cmdline? sorry about that. | 18:07 |
| stinebd | you were | 18:07 |
| stinebd | i'm disappointed | 18:07 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:07 |
| arrrghhh | gonna have to fire me stinebd | 18:07 |
| stinebd | i'm going trump on your ass | 18:07 |
| stinebd | yer fard! | 18:07 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:07 |
| eval- | =) | 18:08 |
| stinebd | you know i've got these two rhods now | 18:08 |
| stinebd | and i'm noticing that the sprint version feels significantly sturdier than the att version | 18:08 |
| arrrghhh | it represents the companies as a whole stinebd | 18:09 |
| eval- | stinebd: thnx. am thinking of building the repo for another device (non-phone) and wondering whether to comment the fuck out of this .mk maze and just keep a busybox + init/rc rootfs or start totally from scratch | 18:09 |
| stinebd | i guess that's why the sprint version is slower | 18:09 |
| stinebd | bazing! | 18:09 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 18:09 |
| arrrghhh | zing | 18:09 |
| eval- | i just let my SERO expire =( | 18:09 |
| KrassRattus | ok i have all in /andboot | 18:09 |
| KrassRattus | and the startup.txt in the same | 18:10 |
| KrassRattus | next? | 18:10 |
| KrassRattus | run harret.exe? | 18:10 |
| KrassRattus | can i run harret.exe now? | 18:12 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 18:12 |
| arrrghhh | sorry | 18:12 |
| arrrghhh | on the phone :P | 18:12 |
| KrassRattus | i now | 18:13 |
| KrassRattus | because the phone has restart | 18:13 |
| KrassRattus | restart in 7s... was in console | 18:13 |
| arrrghhh | you copied the ts-calibration file? | 18:14 |
| KrassRattus | no | 18:14 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 18:15 |
| arrrghhh | might be a problem. | 18:15 |
| arrrghhh | can't skip steps man | 18:15 |
| arrrghhh | if you don't know what to do, ask. | 18:15 |
| KrassRattus | ts-calibration with .txt or without | 18:15 |
| arrrghhh | without | 18:15 |
| arrrghhh | says that in the step... | 18:15 |
| KrassRattus | the file is in andboot | 18:16 |
| KrassRattus | overwrite? | 18:16 |
| arrrghhh | so you did do that step? | 18:17 |
| arrrghhh | i'm really lost. | 18:17 |
| KrassRattus | i not have copy the file in the direktory | 18:17 |
| KrassRattus | have linux made this file? | 18:17 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 18:17 |
| arrrghhh | easiest to just copy mine | 18:18 |
| KrassRattus | k | 18:18 |
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| KrassRattus | ok i have do it | 18:19 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 18:21 |
| arrrghhh | try booting again | 18:21 |
| KrassRattus | ok | 18:21 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, we're finding on that netloc test that stop ril-daemon is inconsistent at best. | 18:21 |
| KrassRattus | reboot | 18:21 |
| rpierce99 | the stop never gave me problems | 18:22 |
| rpierce99 | my phone froze every time i tried to cat /dev/smd0 | 18:22 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, yea but if the RIL isn't stopped you won't be able to pass that next command. | 18:23 |
| KrassRattus | i have the phone on usb | 18:23 |
| KrassRattus | must i put it from usb | 18:23 |
| arrrghhh | KrassRattus, if you follow the directions it should work. | 18:23 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps try disconnecting it, yes. | 18:23 |
| arrrghhh | shouldn't cause issues tho | 18:23 |
| rpierce99 | mankenkinko (sp?) said that stopping the ril daemon just made the output less noisy | 18:23 |
| KrassRattus | i have read Kernal panic in cosole | 18:24 |
| arrrghhh | KrassRattus, perhaps try a different SD card, i don't know. | 18:24 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, uhm... every time i tried without stopping the daemon it would freeze the phone. | 18:25 |
| rpierce99 | oh, interesting | 18:25 |
| arrrghhh | eh, it's not a big deal. | 18:25 |
| arrrghhh | i'm kinda hoping we can just shoehorn the code in and test it that way. | 18:25 |
| arrrghhh | unless someone has a better method to pass commands to the radio. | 18:25 |
| rpierce99 | well we know that the commands give us what we're looking for, what we need to do is get them into the frameworks location apis | 18:26 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 18:26 |
| arrrghhh | the API should be there if i understand correctly | 18:26 |
| rpierce99 | which he was pretty convinced happens in the get registration data | 18:26 |
| arrrghhh | the RIL just isn't asking for the info | 18:26 |
| arrrghhh | we just need to make the RIL ask for the info. | 18:26 |
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| arrrghhh | stupid tether | 18:28 |
| stinebd | zomg! | 18:30 |
| stinebd | http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/24/official-android-2-3-3-updates-for-nexus-one-and-nexus-s-unearth/ | 18:30 |
| rpierce99 | i guess I'm just not entirely convinced that requestRegistrationState is the right place for that | 18:31 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99, i have no clue. | 18:31 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry seems to have an idea, as does WisTilt2. i'm hoping that they'll work it out... | 18:31 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, is 2.3.1 the only AOSP code that's out? | 18:32 |
| stinebd | nah | 18:32 |
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| stinebd | we've got current code but they forgot to update the version string in the gingerbread branch of build/ | 18:32 |
| stinebd | which is normal, since they use gingerbread-release to generate those updates | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 18:33 |
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| rpierce99 | have you fixed nand data yet arrrghhh | 18:54 |
| arrrghhh | haven't messed with nand | 18:54 |
| arrrghhh | but acl said pppd is in there | 18:54 |
| arrrghhh | just in /system/bin | 18:55 |
| arrrghhh | are you on NAND? can you confirm it's in there? | 18:55 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry wanted me to debug it, but i'm not on NAND right now. | 18:55 |
| rpierce99 | yeah that's why i was wondering, I figured that wouldn't be too hard to fix if it's just in the wrong location | 18:55 |
| rpierce99 | no i can't run nand, company phone | 18:55 |
| arrrghhh | stfu | 18:55 |
| stinebd | gonna have to fix ril | 18:56 |
| stinebd | mypppstatus = system("/bin/pppd /dev/smd1");//Or smd7 ? | 18:56 |
| stinebd | or just symlink it :P | 18:57 |
| arrrghhh | symlink! | 18:57 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 18:57 |
| XirXes_ | why aren't we wrapping htcs ril? | 18:57 |
| arrrghhh | no ril blobs | 18:57 |
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| arrrghhh | for our phone | 18:57 |
| arrrghhh | find a ril blob XirXes | 18:57 |
| stinebd | we have dual-mode radios to worry about | 18:57 |
| stinebd | no htc android phone has such a radio | 18:58 |
| rpierce99 | i'd happily run a cdma-only RIL :) | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | you can't run NAND anyways | 18:58 |
| rpierce99 | i just want netloc | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | me too | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | wait | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | you can run android on your company phone | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | but not flash it? | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:58 |
| XirXes | id be fine with arrrghhhs device not working anymore for mine to work better ;D | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | eh? why would my device not work at all? | 18:59 |
| rpierce99 | yeah, it's not their sd card | 18:59 |
| arrrghhh | but... it is their phone | 18:59 |
| rpierce99 | i'm not making any permanent changes | 18:59 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 18:59 |
| arrrghhh | hopefully you're right | 18:59 |
| stinebd | http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/24/android-market-adds-e-books-movies-and-music-soon-to-come/ | 19:01 |
| arrrghhh | When Engadget promotes iTunes, it's Justin Bieber. When they promote Android Marketplace, it's Glenn Beck. | 19:03 |
| arrrghhh | I have a conspiracy theory about it and it involves Fascists, Democrats, Terrorists, the SS, North Korea and China. But I'll only present it in an arena where nobody can argue with me. | 19:03 |
| arrrghhh | LOL | 19:03 |
| XirXes | lol | 19:03 |
| stinebd | haha | 19:03 |
| stinebd | <3 glenn beck | 19:03 |
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| stinebd | nexus one back to stock | 19:06 |
| stinebd | no more xdandroid boot animation :( | 19:06 |
| arrrghhh | get your OTA update? | 19:06 |
| stinebd | until i adb push it to /data/media :) | 19:06 |
| XirXes | lol you built a xdandroid image for your nexus 1? | 19:06 |
| stinebd | i have to return to stock to upgrade | 19:06 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 19:07 |
| stinebd | i think anyway | 19:07 |
| phh | btw, who did the xdandroid boot animation ? | 19:08 |
| phh | it's kind of awesome | 19:08 |
| stinebd | some guy | 19:08 |
| stinebd | lugiber? | 19:08 |
| XirXes | that new update is going to enable webm in your browser | 19:08 |
| stinebd | i don't need no stinkin webm | 19:08 |
| stinebd | until vlc supports it | 19:08 |
| XirXes | me either | 19:08 |
| XirXes | i dont need no stickin gingerbread either. till sense gets updated | 19:09 |
| stinebd | i regularly stream tv to my phone so that might be nice for it | 19:09 |
| stinebd | i like to watch hockey games at work | 19:09 |
| XirXes | ill regularly stream tv to my phone when netflix for android comes out | 19:09 |
| arrrghhh | lugiber sounds right for the bootani | 19:09 |
| arrrghhh | there was a contest a while back | 19:10 |
| stinebd | i mean live tv | 19:10 |
| arrrghhh | lugiber did a bunch of great ones | 19:10 |
| arrrghhh | my fav was the drunken droid | 19:10 |
| arrrghhh | XirXes, who cares about sense? abomination. | 19:11 |
| XirXes | i like it alot actually. i tried a buch of different roms on my g2. CM7, stock gingerbread, stock froyo and virtuous rom (sense) and the sense rom is just riddled with well thought out feature implientation | 19:12 |
| arrrghhh | meh, i think it's just an unweidly beast. | 19:14 |
| arrrghhh | i don't have a native android device that's "designed" for sense poop tho. | 19:14 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps if i had a 2.7giggawatt processor and a terabyte of RAM, sense would be pleasant. | 19:14 |
| arrrghhh | yes, processor speed is now measured in giggawatts. get used to it. | 19:15 |
| XirXes | damn, just when i got used to the old way of measuring processor speed | 19:15 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:15 |
| arrrghhh | time... moving... so... slow | 19:16 |
| rpierce99 | i just find it funny that it takes 1.21 gigawatts to send a car back/forward in time, but it takes 2.7 to run sense :) | 19:16 |
| XirXes | it doesnt really feel unwieldly on the g2. it actually feels alot more responsive than the stock t-mobile rom | 19:16 |
| arrrghhh | leave it to rpierce99 to whip out the numerology. | 19:17 |
| arrrghhh | XirXes, well... stock tmo ROMs suck donkey balls. | 19:17 |
| arrrghhh | my buddy has the mytouch 4g, that ROM is so damned ugly. | 19:17 |
| arrrghhh | he didn't want me to "mess with it" tho lol | 19:17 |
| arrrghhh | and that stupid "genius" button? worthless. | 19:17 |
| arrrghhh | does the g2 have one of them? | 19:17 |
| XirXes | which btw they should fire the people who made that rom. it comes with every g app on the planet installed to /system so you cant update them with the market | 19:18 |
| XirXes | the g2 has a normal search button | 19:18 |
| XirXes | its a stock android phone in honor of the g1 | 19:18 |
| arrrghhh | XirXes, but on the stock ROM is it tied to something stupid? | 19:18 |
| arrrghhh | on his it was. | 19:19 |
| arrrghhh | oic | 19:19 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't realize that. | 19:19 |
| arrrghhh | http://ubuntuforums.org/customavatars/avatar56715_3.gif | 19:19 |
| arrrghhh | ^^ ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh | 19:19 |
| XirXes | i agree with the hatred of mytouch tho. that shit is hideous | 19:19 |
| arrrghhh | f-ing mobility | 19:22 |
| arrrghhh | WORK | 19:22 |
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| stinebd | yawn | 19:33 |
| arrrghhh | well that made my life easier. | 19:33 |
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| stinebd | GRI40 | 19:37 |
| stinebd | nice | 19:37 |
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| stinebd | holy crap | 19:39 |
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| stinebd | market is installing 78 apps at the same time | 19:40 |
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| eval- | wow setprop hw.nobattery true ... maybe that would have saved mucking around in BatteryService.cpp | 19:50 |
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| stinebd | google's n1 gingerbread is much better than mine | 19:58 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:59 |
| Tandyman100 | So are you guys going to be porting Honeycomb? | 20:03 |
| Tandyman100 | If so, I'm guessing it won't be for my beloved Touch Pro? | 20:03 |
| arrrghhh | lo,l. | 20:03 |
| arrrghhh | why would we port a tablet OS to a non-tablet. | 20:03 |
| arrrghhh | i don't get that | 20:03 |
| Tandyman100 | There is going to be a handset version | 20:03 |
| Tandyman100 | as well as a tablet version | 20:03 |
| arrrghhh | well when AOSP drops | 20:04 |
| arrrghhh | i'm sure we'll look at it | 20:04 |
| arrrghhh | i thought they were merging gb and honeycomb in ice cream | 20:04 |
| Tandyman100 | Oh really? | 20:04 |
| stinebd | who's "we" bub? | 20:04 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't know there was going to be two versions of honeycomb | 20:04 |
| Tandyman100 | I'm kinda clueless | 20:04 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, hey i can look at it. | 20:04 |
| Tandyman100 | I'm going off of a Gizmodo article :P | 20:04 |
| arrrghhh | didn't say i'm going to do anything. | 20:04 |
| Tandyman100 | lol | 20:04 |
| Tandyman100 | I think the tablet UI of Honeycomb is BRILLIANT | 20:06 |
| Tandyman100 | curbstomps the WP7-for-tablets idea | 20:06 |
| Tandyman100 | and iOS can't even TOUCH it | 20:06 |
| Nautis | holy ish gizmodo is horrible, what were they thinking with that redesign | 20:08 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:09 |
| arrrghhh | home time | 20:09 |
| arrrghhh | peace | 20:09 |
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| Tandyman100 | Nautis I dunno, but all of the sites related to Gizmodo (kotaku, jalopnik, etc.) are redesigned as well | 20:10 |
| Tandyman100 | I hate it. Useability = nonexistant :P | 20:10 |
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| dingbat | can anyone play the games at http://libsdl-android.sourceforge.net/ without the huge input delay | 20:17 |
| dingbat | feels like a second long | 20:17 |
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| kanox | hi not sure if this is the place to ask this but i see you guys are making strides with nand on the rhodiums, will some of your work track back to the raphaels because the hardware is similar? thanks in advance | 20:42 |
| arrrghhh | eventually that's the plan | 20:42 |
| arrrghhh | not many devs with that device tho | 20:42 |
| arrrghhh | so "difficult" doesn't begin to describe getting that device up to speed | 20:43 |
| kanox | ive got a raph800 if i can be of any assistance | 20:43 |
| arrrghhh | do you know C? | 20:43 |
| arrrghhh | or linux? | 20:43 |
| kanox | ive played around with linux for the past few years, probably nowhere close to what you guys know though lol | 20:43 |
| arrrghhh | well i mean linux development | 20:44 |
| arrrghhh | like kernel development | 20:44 |
| kanox | nope im lost there | 20:44 |
| arrrghhh | winmo development? | 20:44 |
| kanox | not so much there either | 20:44 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 20:44 |
| arrrghhh | so you're in the same boat as the vast majority of users (me included) | 20:44 |
| arrrghhh | just gotta wait | 20:44 |
| kanox | lol i think you probably are quite a bit further along than i am | 20:44 |
| arrrghhh | and pray | 20:44 |
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| Tandyman100 | I am in the exact same boat as kanox | 20:56 |
| Tandyman100 | I have a raph800, but no dev expirience, but I want my bloody Android }:D | 20:56 |
| Tandyman100 | I can't believe how expensive Touch Pros still are O_o | 20:57 |
| Tandyman100 | $100+ for a technically 'legacy' device? | 20:57 |
| arrrghhh | wtf? | 20:57 |
| arrrghhh | no carrier still sells them | 20:57 |
| arrrghhh | that i've seen | 20:57 |
| Tandyman100 | I'm talking about ebay | 20:58 |
| arrrghhh | o | 20:58 |
| Tandyman100 | They're still hella-expensive | 20:58 |
| arrrghhh | who the hell is buying a TP for $100? lol | 20:58 |
| Tandyman100 | I dunno, people, I guess. | 20:58 |
| Tandyman100 | I wouldn't mind having a GSM model, but I could barely afford this one | 20:58 |
| stinebd | this may sound crazy but i like the raph better than the rhod | 20:59 |
| Tandyman100 | I'm about ready to murder someone for a TP2 | 20:59 |
| Tandyman100 | :P | 20:59 |
| Tandyman100 | jk | 20:59 |
| Tandyman100 | stinebd, really? Do you have a rhod? | 20:59 |
| stinebd | i have two | 20:59 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:59 |
| Tandyman100 | sell one? | 20:59 |
| Tandyman100 | :D | 20:59 |
| arrrghhh | why do you like the raph better? | 20:59 |
| arrrghhh | there's certain things i like about the raph better | 20:59 |
| stinebd | i like the smaller size | 21:00 |
| MassStash | not the keyboard... | 21:00 |
| Tandyman100 | I just wish the raph was a bit thinner | 21:00 |
| Tandyman100 | I think i would like the rhod better, thinner, bigger screen, WVGA | 21:00 |
| arrrghhh | thinner? | 21:00 |
| Tandyman100 | Isn't it? | 21:00 |
| stinebd | roughly the same | 21:00 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 21:00 |
| arrrghhh | maybe more rounded on the edges | 21:01 |
| Tandyman100 | ah | 21:01 |
| Tandyman100 | brb | 21:01 |
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| stinebd | hmm | 21:32 |
| stinebd | my n1 gingerbread is better than google's | 21:32 |
| stinebd | at least market doesn't keep crashing on mine :P | 21:32 |
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| arrrghhh | lol | 21:32 |
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| stinebd | hahaha | 21:46 |
| stinebd | have you guys seen broadbandmap.gov? | 21:47 |
| stinebd | i think it still needs a little more work | 21:47 |
| stinebd | Verizon Communications Inc. 50 - 100 Mbps Download between 50 - 100 Mbps using DSL (Asymmetric) Upload between 10 - 25 Mbps using DSL (Asymmetric) | 21:47 |
| stinebd | that's pretty optimistic for dsl | 21:48 |
| rpierce99 | fios classification fail? | 21:49 |
| stinebd | we don't even have fios around here | 21:49 |
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| Tandyman100 | Ugh. Why is it that every time someone sees my Touch Pro in person the first thing they say is 'that's a brick' | 22:17 |
| Tandyman100 | yet one of my friends has a TP2 and noone ever has refered to it as a brick. | 22:18 |
| Tandyman100 | Yet the TP2 is only SLIGHTLY thinner, and is a bit wider and taller | 22:18 |
| arrrghhh | rounded edges | 22:18 |
| hyc | esthetics are subtle... | 22:18 |
| hyc | The difference between the TP2 and the G1 is 1mm, but I think my TP2 is a brick compared to my G1 | 22:19 |
| hyc | Before I had one in hand I thought the 1mm difference would be unnoticeable. | 22:19 |
| hyc | But in fact it feels quite different. | 22:20 |
| Tandyman100 | huh | 22:27 |
| * Tandyman100 still wants a TP2 | 22:27 | |
| Tandyman100 | Even though it has less RAM... | 22:27 |
| Tandyman100 | actually, what's the best Windows Mobile phone with a physical keyboard? | 22:28 |
| Tandyman100 | I had an i760, then my TP, and i love my physical keyboards | 22:28 |
| odd | bestbuy had the gsm one for $200 flat a few months back | 22:28 |
| hyc | dunno. I thought TP2 was the best, that's why I got one | 22:28 |
| hyc | it's got 2x RAM as my G1 | 22:29 |
| hyc | and 2.5x more pixels on screen | 22:29 |
| Tandyman100 | That's what I thought | 22:32 |
| Tandyman100 | $200? | 22:32 |
| odd | yep 200 no contract | 22:32 |
| odd | but that deal is over | 22:32 |
| Tandyman100 | That's about $150 more than I have as a semi-impovrished 15 year old. | 22:32 |
| Tandyman100 | impovershed* | 22:33 |
| Tandyman100 | I can't spell either* | 22:33 |
| Tandyman100 | quick look says they're $220 new on amazon | 22:33 |
| hyc | what the TP2? I got mine used for $150 on ebay | 22:35 |
| Tandyman100 | Oh, ok. | 22:36 |
| arrrghhh | Tandyman100: tp2 has same ram as raph | 22:36 |
| arrrghhh | 288mb | 22:36 |
| Tandyman100 | Time to start saving up $200 for a dual-core PC, and $150 for a new phone then :P | 22:36 |
| Tandyman100 | arrrghhh, the pocketnow video said there was slightly less available. Perhaps that's just bloated software. | 22:36 |
| Tandyman100 | The thing that worries me is the poor battery life. | 22:36 |
| hyc | well, there may be 288MB RAM total in the thing, but I think 16MB of it is reserved for the video framebuffer | 22:37 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 22:37 |
| arrrghhh | there's some reserved for video | 22:37 |
| arrrghhh | i'm talking raw numbers :P | 22:37 |
| hyc | definitely other system requirements eat into it so you get much less for general use | 22:37 |
| Tandyman100 | yeah | 22:38 |
| Tandyman100 | heck, I'm only using 90mb of RAM with all my fully-loaded UI enhancements and stuff on my TP, so I'm pretty sure I won't need every single MB ;P | 22:38 |
| Tandyman100 | 60mb of RAM on the i760, however... | 22:38 |
| * Tandyman100 shudders | 22:38 | |
| hyc | the G1 only has 192MB RAM; booted up I only see 118MB | 22:39 |
| Tandyman100 | wow | 22:40 |
| Tandyman100 | Oh, also. I'll soon have a new toy to play with. An ARM netbook. 300mhz, 128mb RAM, windows CE. Dunno what's I'm going to do with it :P | 22:40 |
| hyc | windows ce? not much | 22:40 |
| Tandyman100 | heh | 22:41 |
| Tandyman100 | I was going to attempt Debian-izing it | 22:41 |
| Tandyman100 | but now I have to go watch star trek TNG | 22:41 |
| hyc | that's still a grossly underpowered toy | 22:41 |
| arrrghhh | 128mb of ram | 22:41 |
| hyc | I have a Touchbook, 256MB RAM and 600MHz ARMV7, still feels slow | 22:42 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 22:42 |
| hyc | I have another touchbook with 512MB RAM, which is mostly usable | 22:42 |
| arrrghhh | that's starting to get reasonable. | 22:42 |
| hyc | but I don't use either of them now | 22:42 |
| arrrghhh | considering smartphones are now packing 1gb of ram lol | 22:42 |
| hyc | yeah, exactly | 22:42 |
| hyc | the 1024x600 touchscreen was kinda cool, but I'm used to 1920x1200 on my laptop | 22:43 |
| hyc | OMAP3 was kinda cool too, but so annoying not to have open source driver or specs for the GPU | 22:44 |
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| odd | hm | 23:09 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller: you bastage | 23:10 |
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| L_miller | what's up arrrghhh? | 23:29 |
| arrrghhh | nada | 23:29 |
| arrrghhh | just breakin stuff | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | tryin to sort out data on nand | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | i got the 3g symbol | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | and an ip | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | i could ping the outside | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | but no dns | 23:30 |
| L_miller | great. | 23:30 |
| L_miller | humm... | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | and then i couldn't get it to work at all, flashing back to winmo :/ | 23:30 |
| L_miller | what did you do to get it that far? | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | lots of crap | 23:31 |
| arrrghhh | not sure which one did it | 23:31 |
| L_miller | lol yeah i bet. :) I know the feeling. | 23:31 |
| arrrghhh | i symlinked /system/bin/pppd to /bin/pppd | 23:31 |
| arrrghhh | chmodd'd it | 23:31 |
| arrrghhh | ifconfig ppp0 up | 23:31 |
| L_miller | is /bin/ppd the corect way? | 23:32 |
| arrrghhh | that's what RIL expects | 23:32 |
| arrrghhh | pppd | 23:32 |
| L_miller | yup. | 23:32 |
| arrrghhh | and i did airplane mode | 23:32 |
| arrrghhh | and fiddled with all sorts of crap in the UI | 23:32 |
| arrrghhh | like just enable/disable data etc | 23:32 |
| L_miller | Ok. | 23:32 |
| arrrghhh | it was funny at the end i had the 3g symbol with the arrows but no ppp0 interface. | 23:32 |
| hyc | you should have rmnet0 | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | so i stopped fuckin with it. already missed a call from my gf, just got a pissed off message from her on gv. | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | hyc: erm no. we don't use rmnet | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | ppp | 23:33 |
| L_miller | yeah. My first nand I has the 3G symbol but didn't get any farther then that. | 23:33 |
| hyc | oh | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller: did you try to ping? | 23:33 |
| L_miller | nope. | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | i got replies from 8.8.8.8 | 23:33 |
| L_miller | lol. | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | but www.google.com failed | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | bad hostname or some crap. | 23:34 |
| L_miller | better then 6.6.6??? | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | f... | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu | 23:34 |
| L_miller | lol. | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | stupid winmo | 23:34 |
| L_miller | well I better get going. Talk to you later! | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | 2.32.000WF | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | ^^ radio | 23:34 |
| L_miller | ok good to know. | 23:35 |
| L_miller | Not thinking it's that anymore... | 23:35 |
| arrrghhh | what do you think it is | 23:35 |
| arrrghhh | wistilt2 seems like he might just try putting the code in | 23:35 |
| arrrghhh | oh right he wanted me to try the SERV command | 23:35 |
| L_miller | sorry for NAND memory not 3g Data :) | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | NAND memory..? | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | i was talking about the netloc crap | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | i thought that's why you wanted to know my radio version | 23:36 |
| L_miller | what I was trying to do before. ;) | 23:36 |
| L_miller | lol | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 23:36 |
| L_miller | sorry... | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | yea you kept futzing with different nbh's | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | np | 23:37 |
| L_miller | yup. Don't think i have given up yet... | 23:37 |
| L_miller | When I flashed back to winmo I have the same problem as you guys now. :( | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | HA | 23:38 |
| L_miller | yeah... My phone sucks now too... :( | 23:38 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:38 |
| L_miller | hitting the hay! Later! | 23:38 |
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| MassStash | arrrghhh, what's the problem? no data in winmo now? | 23:40 |
| arrrghhh | wha? | 23:41 |
| arrrghhh | no | 23:41 |
| arrrghhh | troubleshooting data in android | 23:41 |
| MassStash | <L_miller> When I flashed back to winmo I have the same problem as you guys now. :( | 23:41 |
| MassStash | ?? | 23:42 |
| odd | ?? | 23:42 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 23:44 |
| arrrghhh | i guess he now has bad blocks i assume | 23:44 |
| MassStash | oh weird... | 23:45 |
| MassStash | grrrrrrrr so close | 23:46 |
| arrrghhh | i got data | 23:46 |
| arrrghhh | but no dns | 23:46 |
| arrrghhh | so... yea | 23:46 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 23:46 |
| arrrghhh | it was flaky at best | 23:46 |
| stinebd | oy | 23:47 |
| stinebd | turns out i flashed a winmo rom to that 400 with like 12% battery remaining | 23:47 |
| stinebd | didn't think it would let you do that with a low battery | 23:47 |
| odd | what does your /etc/resolv.conf have? | 23:48 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd: sd flash? | 23:48 |
| arrrghhh | odd: uhm... no longer on nand. | 23:49 |
| odd | oh :( | 23:49 |
| stinebd | yeah i can't flash via any other means | 23:49 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd: i don't think that the bootloader gives a crap | 23:49 |
| stinebd | n1 bootloader cares | 23:49 |
| arrrghhh | orly? | 23:49 |
| stinebd | well android flashing uses recovery so that's probably a more rich environment | 23:50 |
| arrrghhh | i know the USB one for these phones won't let you if it's below 50% | 23:50 |
| arrrghhh | heh i'd hope so. | 23:50 |
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| stinebd | now that is a weird backtrace | 23:56 |
| stinebd | maybe i should make clean... | 23:57 |
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