| arrrghhh | i found it interesting that wozz gets paid so little by cupertino | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| arrrghhh | Wozniak | 00:00 |
| Samsunguy | Cause his fatttttttt | 00:00 |
| Samsunguy | And is lazy | 00:00 |
| Samsunguy | And just gets free stuff | 00:00 |
| arrrghhh | and prints $2 bills | 00:00 |
| arrrghhh | booklets of them | 00:00 |
| arrrghhh | perforated and everything | 00:00 |
| Samsunguy | I wouldn't mind him dying | 00:01 |
| arrrghhh | wtf | 00:01 |
| arrrghhh | what did woz do to you | 00:01 |
| Samsunguy | Nothing except hire Steve jobs !!!!! | 00:01 |
| arrrghhh | well | 00:02 |
| Samsunguy | :D | 00:02 |
| arrrghhh | wouldn't you say that's a good thing from your perspective? | 00:02 |
| Samsunguy | Good and bad | 00:02 |
| Samsunguy | More good though | 00:02 |
| Samsunguy | Look at it this way | 00:02 |
| F22 | without steve jobs, apple won't have a diabolical mastermind pushing their attempts to lock everyone into their private ecosystem anymore, and thus are far less likely to succeed in their nefarious plans. without steve jobs, apple becomes just another company, albeit one with particularly snazzy products, at least for the time being. | 00:03 |
| Samsunguy | If apple didn't make the iPhone google probably wouldn't of made Android | 00:03 |
| arrrghhh | google didn't make android | 00:03 |
| arrrghhh | they bought a company and absorbed/embraced their model. | 00:03 |
| F22 | oh google would have still made android, it just would still look like the g1. :P | 00:04 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:04 |
| Samsunguy | Lol | 00:04 |
| arrrghhh | i'm sure if firefox wasn't made we'd still be on ie6 | 00:04 |
| Samsunguy | See it bring competition | 00:04 |
| arrrghhh | came springing out of netscape somehow. | 00:04 |
| Samsunguy | Which is good | 00:04 |
| F22 | competition is good. | 00:04 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 00:04 |
| arrrghhh | consumer choice | 00:05 |
| arrrghhh | makes the product companies step up their game. | 00:05 |
| Samsunguy | But we can all agree that nokia is not the "smartest" company right now | 00:05 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 00:05 |
| F22 | nokia is turning into compaq... | 00:05 |
| Samsunguy | Investing on WP7 | 00:06 |
| arrrghhh | we'll see what happens. seems like they really are abadoning their original model... | 00:06 |
| Samsunguy | What the hell are they thinking | 00:06 |
| Samsunguy | Meego would have been badass | 00:06 |
| F22 | compaq got rid of the alpha and became just another wintel box pusher, and then got clobbered by dell and had to be bought up by hp. | 00:06 |
| Samsunguy | But hp is good | 00:07 |
| Samsunguy | Look at palm now | 00:07 |
| F22 | my point is that compaq no longer exists. | 00:07 |
| Samsunguy | Yup | 00:07 |
| Samsunguy | And nokia is heading this way | 00:07 |
| Samsunguy | Stephen elop is the CEO fail of the year | 00:08 |
| Samsunguy | New iPads Next Week !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 00:08 |
| Samsunguy | :D | 00:08 |
| F22 | nokia has always been a hardware company primarily. their software division has always felt like the red-haired stepchild. | 00:08 |
| Samsunguy | Heh | 00:09 |
| F22 | it's not entirely surprising that they've decided to throw their os groups to the wolves. | 00:09 |
| Samsunguy | Symbian was bad | 00:09 |
| F22 | Symbian languished because Nokia couldn't make up its mind. | 00:10 |
| Samsunguy | Maybe they will be like motorola | 00:11 |
| F22 | They let it fall behind, kind of like MS did WinMo. | 00:11 |
| Samsunguy | And get back in the game | 00:11 |
| Samsunguy | WinMo was nice cause of all you could do with it :D | 00:11 |
| F22 | except MS is willing to invest whatever it takes to make Win Phone 7 a success, however many billions that is. Nokia isn't willing to do the same for Meego. | 00:11 |
| Samsunguy | Meego looked nice from my perpective but intel will handle it | 00:12 |
| Samsunguy | Perspective | 00:12 |
| Samsunguy | There really pushing for it | 00:13 |
| F22 | MS is kind of way behind the curve atm however. They've lost nearly all their marketshare, and their rep for clunky, crashing software, doesn't exactly inspire early adopters to take risks. | 00:13 |
| F22 | about the only thing they have going for them is an x-box tie-in. | 00:14 |
| F22 | and that i understand is far from release. | 00:14 |
| Samsunguy | Yes, they don't really have loyal customers like other main brands | 00:14 |
| F22 | nope | 00:14 |
| Samsunguy | I think Microsoft should produce there own hardware like apple | 00:15 |
| Samsunguy | Cause the way they treat wp7 is just about the same | 00:15 |
| Samsunguy | Strict hardware | 00:16 |
| Samsunguy | So the user experience will be the same | 00:16 |
| F22 | yeah, the win phone 7 equiv of the tp2 is still waiting on MS to release a software update before it can be sold. | 00:16 |
| Samsunguy | Yup | 00:16 |
| F22 | same goes for cdma | 00:17 |
| Samsunguy | They learned a thing or two from apple | 00:17 |
| F22 | heck, 7 still doesn't have copy/paste, although i hear that's coming very soon. | 00:17 |
| Samsunguy | This time around I think they got it down | 00:17 |
| Samsunguy | Came yesterday | 00:17 |
| F22 | google and apple are both far ahead of win phone 7 right now. | 00:18 |
| Samsunguy | Oh yes | 00:18 |
| Samsunguy | Way ahead | 00:18 |
| F22 | i can't think of a single reason why i'd recommend 7 over android or ios right now. | 00:18 |
| Samsunguy | Yea | 00:18 |
| F22 | MS's window of opportunity is rapidly closing. | 00:19 |
| Samsunguy | Unless they like simple and squares :D | 00:19 |
| F22 | if they weren't sitting on such a huge war chest, I'd have given up on them already. | 00:19 |
| Samsunguy | Yup | 00:19 |
| Samsunguy | But manufactures make great devices | 00:20 |
| Samsunguy | It's up to what they put in it | 00:20 |
| F22 | not sure what nokia is going to be able to do with 7 that HTC isn't already doing. | 00:20 |
| Samsunguy | I heard they can play with UI | 00:21 |
| Samsunguy | Unlike htc wanted to | 00:21 |
| F22 | i'm not altogether certain about that one. clearly they weren't happy about the restrictions google placed on them. that doesn't mean MS agreed to those same restrictions. | 00:21 |
| Samsunguy | Sense UI on wp would set wp on fire | 00:21 |
| F22 | to ease up on, i mean. | 00:22 |
| Samsunguy | True | 00:22 |
| F22 | i mean look at how MS screwed over both HTC and HD2 users. | 00:22 |
| F22 | MS refused to let HTC release a 7 upgrade for the HD2. | 00:22 |
| F22 | why? because it had an extra button. | 00:23 |
| Samsunguy | But we still fought through and I think they've noticed that | 00:23 |
| arrrghhh | doesn't make them any extra money really | 00:23 |
| arrrghhh | to release new software for an old piece of hardware. | 00:23 |
| arrrghhh | if the don't do it, makes people want to buy new hardware instead (in theory) | 00:24 |
| Samsunguy | But they can charge for upgrade | 00:24 |
| F22 | no, but it would have given 7 mindshare, a customer base for the future. | 00:24 |
| Samsunguy | Like apple used to | 00:24 |
| Samsunguy | Yup | 00:24 |
| F22 | microsoft wouldn't be in a position where they have to fork out hundreds of millions, and possibly even billions to bribe verizon to put bing on their android phones. | 00:24 |
| Samsunguy | That was pure he'll | 00:25 |
| Samsunguy | Hell | 00:25 |
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| Samsunguy | Nobody really considered buying there phones with bing | 00:25 |
| Samsunguy | An area where android fails is music player | 00:26 |
| F22 | it's a major reason why the verizon version of the galaxy s is the least successful. | 00:26 |
| Samsunguy | Ms and apple have spectacular music players | 00:26 |
| Samsunguy | But android is meh...... | 00:26 |
| Samsunguy | But it was a galaxy s so :D | 00:27 |
| F22 | lol | 00:27 |
| F22 | My big issue with Samsung is their crappy OS support. | 00:27 |
| Samsunguy | What do you mean? | 00:28 |
| Samsunguy | The UI? | 00:28 |
| F22 | that too...but no, i mean their update to froyo. and i bet htc will beat them to the punch with ginger too. | 00:28 |
| F22 | i wonder if the gal s's will even get ginger. | 00:29 |
| Samsunguy | Yes htc is first, the samsung, the lg, then moto which will never upgrade you :D | 00:29 |
| Samsunguy | Moto fails at upgrading | 00:30 |
| F22 | actually moto and samsung are about the same. there are a lot of unhappy behold 2 owners on t-mo. | 00:30 |
| F22 | lg is too new at the android game to have much of a record. | 00:30 |
| Samsunguy | Lg makes the opyimus with crappy hardware and that supports 2.2 | 00:31 |
| Samsunguy | From start | 00:31 |
| Samsunguy | Moto can't even do 2.0 | 00:31 |
| F22 | Moto has several phones with 2.2, mostly on verizon. | 00:31 |
| Samsunguy | Yes but there mid price phones suffer | 00:32 |
| Samsunguy | With no upgrades | 00:32 |
| F22 | Moto has been good about sticking to their update schedule however which they periodically refresh. | 00:32 |
| F22 | what mid-range samsung phone hasn't suffered either? | 00:33 |
| Samsunguy | The focus | 00:33 |
| Samsunguy | Moment | 00:33 |
| Samsunguy | Etc. | 00:34 |
| F22 | focus is windows 7. | 00:34 |
| F22 | moment was pure google android with no touch-wiz overlay. | 00:34 |
| Samsunguy | Yes | 00:34 |
| F22 | took them forever to update the moment even as it was. | 00:35 |
| Samsunguy | But it was on samsung hardware like nexus s | 00:35 |
| dingbat | sorry to interrupt, but could someone please test the GemRB program (from the market) with xdandroid, on any phone that uses a msm7### Qualcomm chipset | 00:35 |
| Samsunguy | Which was a useless device | 00:35 |
| dingbat | especially if you've played one of the infinity engine games before, like Baldur's Gate or Icewind Dale | 00:36 |
| Samsunguy | F22: anyway I'm off to bed well talk tomorrow :D | 00:36 |
| F22 | i still don't get why the nexus s doesn't have hspa+, removable sd card, or flash. | 00:36 |
| dingbat | it's an emulator for that engine | 00:36 |
| F22 | well at least they fixed the first two in the new tmobile version. | 00:36 |
| Samsunguy | They are taking pointers from apple F22 | 00:37 |
| F22 | have a good night | 00:37 |
| F22 | lol | 00:37 |
| Samsunguy | Hehe night | 00:37 |
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| F22 | dingbat: what issue are you having GemRB? | 00:38 |
| hyc | Samsung has been a huge disappointment after such promising starts... | 00:38 |
| F22 | hyc: agreed. | 00:38 |
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| dingbat | F22, "Called unimplemented OpenGL ES API" errors, in the log | 00:39 |
| dingbat | it's supposedly using OpenGL ES 1.0 | 00:39 |
| F22 | it doesn't use 1.1 or 2? | 00:39 |
| dingbat | I'm suspecting it's not a driver issue | 00:39 |
| hyc | interesting, since 1.1 is available for MSM720x | 00:40 |
| dingbat | pretty sure it doesn't, the person who packaged it said as much | 00:40 |
| F22 | i've heard that the 1.1 support is only partial, but i haven't really delved into it deeply enough to know the details. | 00:40 |
| dingbat | he said it only used 1.0 | 00:41 |
| dingbat | http://forums.gibberlings3.net/index.php?showtopic=18810&st=300 | 00:41 |
| F22 | dingbat: does the name of the unimplemented function get listed in the error? | 00:42 |
| hyc | hm. installing GemRB from market is easy enough, but I don't have either of the PC games to test | 00:42 |
| hyc | without the original game resource files, seems there's nothing to run | 00:42 |
| dingbat | hyc, I could ... "help" you find the files | 00:42 |
| hyc | ok. then I'll install this gemrb now... | 00:43 |
| dingbat | F22, not with what I used | 00:45 |
| dingbat | could you suggest something more verbose | 00:46 |
| F22 | logcat would probably have something interesting to say about it. | 00:47 |
| F22 | that requires adb however. | 00:47 |
| hyc | dingbat: http://forums.gibberlings3.net/index.php?showtopic=18810&view=findpost&p=182568 | 00:50 |
| hyc | this guy is saying it stutters on his 1GHz Desire Z | 00:50 |
| hyc | I wouldn't hold out hopes for a fun experience on my TP2 | 00:50 |
| hyc | and of course as you hit these older MSM7 devices, it's not just about the CPU, but also about the available RAM. | 00:54 |
| dingbat | hyc, seems like a hiccup with the latest version | 00:58 |
| dingbat | 20-ish fps is very playable, especially with those slow-paced games | 00:58 |
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| TPDJR | hey f22 when are you going to commit ur rootfs? | 02:10 |
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| visof_ | helo | 02:56 |
| visof_ | hello | 02:56 |
| visof_ | i tried android with diamond but i got wifi dosn't work also sd card doesn't support | 02:56 |
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| dingbat | did you try the frx04 package from xdandroid.com | 03:06 |
| dingbat | files.xdandroid.com | 03:06 |
| visof_ | dingbat, this is what i tried for now | 03:10 |
| visof_ | none here comfortable with android under htc diamond ? | 03:11 |
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| dingbat | visof, try a different kernel | 03:35 |
| dingbat | big list of them at http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/# | 03:35 |
| dingbat | read the comments to find one that applies to your model | 03:35 |
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| dingbat | good chance of that fixing the wifi / sd card / whatever else issue | 03:37 |
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| visof_ | dingbat, thanks man | 03:48 |
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| visof_ | there is in startup folder in diamond Diam100 and diam500 ? | 03:53 |
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| visof_ | i have htc touch diamond | 03:54 |
| visof_ | which one should i use ? | 03:54 |
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| visof_ | what i diamond 100 and diamond500 in startup ? | 04:17 |
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| iman | hi | 05:52 |
| iman | i've got a question | 05:52 |
| iman | any boddy there? | 05:52 |
| iman | hey??? | 05:53 |
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| iman | hi | 06:15 |
| iman | ??? | 06:15 |
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| visof | what are the meaning of DIAM100 and DIAM500 ? | 07:08 |
| visof | i have htc diamond which startup.txt should i use ? | 07:09 |
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| lodtank | afaik it are different devices | 08:01 |
| lodtank | open up your htc diamond | 08:01 |
| lodtank | on the back, where the battery is | 08:01 |
| lodtank | under the battery should be a label saying diam100 for the device | 08:02 |
| visof | lodtank, both are htc diamond ? | 08:07 |
| lodtank | i don't know what the diam500 is, i have a mda compact iV, which is a branded htc touch diamond. in mine it says diam100 and xdandroid works fine | 08:08 |
| visof | lodtank, are you using android with htc diamond ? | 08:10 |
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| lodtank | i am | 08:12 |
| visof | lodtank, i have diamond too but i don't know which versions i should use to work properly , please help me with that | 08:12 |
| visof | lodtank, you can use wifi ? | 08:13 |
| lodtank | 14:01:25 < lodtank> open up your htc diamond | 08:13 |
| lodtank | 14:01:31 < lodtank> on the back, where the battery is | 08:13 |
| lodtank | 14:02:07 < lodtank> under the battery should be a label saying diam100 for the device | 08:13 |
| visof | lodtank, i saw it, it's Diam100 | 08:13 |
| lodtank | i used the bundle from there: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711692 | 08:14 |
| lodtank | and applied the system update | 08:14 |
| lodtank | wifi is working fine here | 08:14 |
| visof | lodtank, i used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951981 but wifi doesn't work | 08:15 |
| visof | lodtank, is it relatively fast ? | 08:15 |
| visof | lodtank, crashes ? | 08:15 |
| lodtank | imo it's running fast, but cam is not working for example | 08:17 |
| lodtank | and it's using too much battery power | 08:17 |
| lodtank | but just give it a try | 08:17 |
| visof | http://www.multiupload.com/XD023XA5AH , is this the link of the full bundle ? | 08:17 |
| visof | lodtank, how long battery stay ? | 08:19 |
| lodtank | visof: that's the one i used | 08:19 |
| lodtank | visof: i also applied the system update, which is linked below the bundle | 08:20 |
| lodtank | visof: i never tried it really in practical use | 08:20 |
| lodtank | visof: just give it a try? | 08:20 |
| visof | lodtank, curious why didn't you use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951981 | 08:20 |
| visof | i'm downloading it now | 08:20 |
| lodtank | visof: you just have to copy to your diam, use the right startup.txt | 08:20 |
| lodtank | click haret.exe and there you go:) | 08:21 |
| lodtank | will take some minutes for first boot and you have to calibrate the touchscreen | 08:21 |
| visof | lodtank, i know | 08:21 |
| visof | lodtank, i did that before with another versions | 08:21 |
| lodtank | visof: just got my htc some days ago, i don't even have a sim card in it yet:) | 08:21 |
| lodtank | visof: so i have no big experience with xdandroid | 08:21 |
| visof | lodtank, sell this crappy phone and buy android native one | 08:22 |
| visof | or you are poor like me | 08:22 |
| lodtank | my phone at the moment is a nokia 6510:) i don't really need a new one:) got the htc for free;) | 08:24 |
| lodtank | i also like "hacking"< playing around with hardware:) | 08:24 |
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| jonpry | how does android get its battery info? libhardware? | 08:53 |
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| [acl] | who dat? who der? | 10:56 |
| L_miller | what's up [acl] | 10:58 |
| [acl] | L_miller: sup dood | 10:59 |
| [acl] | wondering if the stine was here | 10:59 |
| [acl] | but no stine found :-( | 10:59 |
| L_miller | darn. :) | 10:59 |
| L_miller | *:( | 10:59 |
| L_miller | Did you flash my lastest NBH? | 11:00 |
| [acl] | nahh i got it too late.. im already at work. | 11:00 |
| L_miller | ok no problem. | 11:00 |
| [acl] | so i guess your makenbh changed too ? since ur attaching the imgfs in tinboot now | 11:00 |
| L_miller | I wonder if argghhh flashed back to stock? | 11:00 |
| L_miller | yup | 11:01 |
| [acl] | I wanted to ask arrg to just get the kernel up | 11:01 |
| [acl] | fuck initrd for now | 11:01 |
| [acl] | that doublevibe has to happen | 11:01 |
| [acl] | so need to give him a small initrd to play with.. a tinyone with no busybox or anything | 11:01 |
| [acl] | just a dumb script to say hello | 11:02 |
| [acl] | if he can do that, then at least there is hope for a kexec boot. | 11:02 |
| L_miller | yup. that is ture. | 11:03 |
| L_miller | I just commented out the line with imgfstobn.exe in the script | 11:04 |
| [acl] | that first partition.. the 15mb one.. we dont use for anything right ? | 11:04 |
| [acl] | i never bothered to cat out the contents to see | 11:04 |
| L_miller | No I don't think to... Its left over for the /root. | 11:04 |
| [acl] | so we can always place the kernel in there and have the little kernel load it.. | 11:06 |
| [acl] | for those poor bad nand bastards | 11:06 |
| [acl] | it should be really quick and people prob wont even notice | 11:07 |
| [acl] | lol | 11:07 |
| L_miller | yeah. but like I said it is susposed to be taken care of by the SPL | 11:07 |
| [acl] | spl isnt doing its job :-( | 11:07 |
| L_miller | nope. | 11:07 |
| [acl] | haha | 11:07 |
| L_miller | Maybe they should go as far as reclocking and starting out fresh... | 11:08 |
| * L_miller wonders if arrghhh should do this... :) | 11:08 | |
| [acl] | I dont know if the bootloader allows you to snoop while it boots. It would be nice to knwo where its dying | 11:08 |
| [acl] | and why | 11:09 |
| L_miller | yeah no kidding. | 11:09 |
| [acl] | need to research that and see if mtty can do it | 11:09 |
| [acl] | we need an mtty guru | 11:09 |
| L_miller | still trying to get help from Joojoobee666 but he has been busy. :( | 11:10 |
| [acl] | what about them other cooks | 11:10 |
| [acl] | winmo spl experts | 11:10 |
| L_miller | Not sure... He is the ppck XIP king. :) | 11:10 |
| [acl] | damn | 11:10 |
| L_miller | yeah we need someone from the SPL world. | 11:10 |
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| [acl] | sounds like we need to press him for help. A well thought out email should do | 11:11 |
| [acl] | plus a few clicks on his donate button :-p | 11:11 |
| L_miller | lol yeah no kidding. | 11:11 |
| [acl] | i need a rhod with bad nand to trouble shoot | 11:12 |
| [acl] | both mine boot.. no fun "-\ | 11:12 |
| [acl] | :-\ | 11:12 |
| odz | :( | 11:12 |
| L_miller | yeah me too... I think I need to try my wifes. | 11:12 |
| [acl] | ahh yes | 11:12 |
| [acl] | DO IT !!! | 11:12 |
| [acl] | NOW !! | 11:12 |
| [acl] | shit sorry.. go exited there | 11:12 |
| L_miller | can't at work... | 11:12 |
| [acl] | ah boo | 11:13 |
| L_miller | Tonight if she lets me. :) | 11:13 |
| [acl] | lets hope | 11:13 |
| L_miller | she has been about ready to shoot me latley | 11:13 |
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| [acl] | i will commit the last clock change for camera tonight.. the libs can be ripped from froyoX .. so if she boots. then might as well leave it as android :-p | 11:13 |
| L_miller | great! :) | 11:15 |
| L_miller | pending data works. :( | 11:15 |
| L_miller | do we need to add the htc_camera shit in the command line? | 11:16 |
| [acl] | i dunno anything baout that.. what is that supposed to do ? | 11:17 |
| manekineko | anyone ever see problems where the SQL database gets corrupted and can't be opened anymore, forcing the creation of a new data.img? | 11:17 |
| manekineko | http://pastebin.com/V87qZNyi | 11:17 |
| L_miller | enable the camera. | 11:17 |
| manekineko | every application tries to open and force closes repeatedly | 11:17 |
| manekineko | seen this bug a few times now | 11:18 |
| [acl] | manekineko: you sound like law dog .. we dont want you around here law dog | 11:18 |
| [acl] | :-p | 11:18 |
| [acl] | sorry i saw tombstone yest and i love it that they call that dood lawdog .. haha | 11:19 |
| manekineko | law dog? haha who is law dog? | 11:19 |
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| [acl] | so ur data.img is getting shot ? | 11:19 |
| manekineko | yup, happened maybe 4 times to me over the past 4 months I've been on XDAndroid | 11:19 |
| [acl] | L_miller: we may need to for now .. i need to trace that code and remove it | 11:19 |
| manekineko | so pretty rare | 11:19 |
| L_miller | ok sounds good. :) | 11:20 |
| [acl] | manekineko: odd. maybe ur sd is dying ? | 11:20 |
| manekineko | hmm possibly, though it's a slow death if that's the case | 11:21 |
| [acl] | tru | 11:21 |
| [acl] | L_miller: did you notice no more of those fsk files on sd card ? lol.. | 11:21 |
| manekineko | pretty mysterious too, the pattern has always been fairly consistent, where it gets screwed up in such a way that it boots up to Android, but then the launcher and all other auto-started programs start force closing | 11:21 |
| manekineko | without ever having actually started | 11:21 |
| L_miller | I still had a couple.. But they might have been left over from before.. ;) | 11:22 |
| [acl] | L_miller: i havent had 1 in ages.. | 11:23 |
| [acl] | manekineko: try backing up that file.. and when it hapens adb into the phone and replace it. | 11:23 |
| manekineko | the sql database? | 11:24 |
| L_miller | yeah the normal system I run might not have that fix. | 11:24 |
| L_miller | my freaking power button split in two the other day... Still works but makes it a pain in the ass... | 11:27 |
| manekineko | wow, how'd you manage to break the power button in half? | 11:28 |
| [acl] | lol | 11:28 |
| L_miller | No idea... | 11:28 |
| L_miller | Might have been from a fall or two... But I haven't dropped it in a while... | 11:29 |
| [acl] | L_miller: we need more pigs.. no one seems to be volunteering | 11:33 |
| [acl] | to announce a "full release " ..lol | 11:34 |
| L_miller | yeah... More to come forward. They are out there... | 11:36 |
| L_miller | I think stinebd got the GSM able to boot better. I wonder what he changed... | 11:37 |
| [acl] | L_miller: whatever it is i need to know to make the changes.. poor gsm folk | 11:37 |
| L_miller | yeah. That would get us some more testers | 11:38 |
| L_miller | :-p | 11:38 |
| [acl] | L_miller: Ask your spl friend if there is a way to get the bootlog from mtty as the phone boots. Thsi way we can at least identify our error | 11:40 |
| L_miller | will do. :) | 11:44 |
| L_miller | The mtd1 is completly empty. | 11:44 |
| [acl] | L_miller: good waste.. we should only need a few mb.. | 11:45 |
| L_miller | yup. | 11:45 |
| L_miller | < then that even. | 11:45 |
| [acl] | i say 5 to be safe. New kernel an emergency initrd and possibly some small tools | 11:46 |
| L_miller | yeah that sounds good. :) | 11:46 |
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| L_miller | odz - did you try flashing my NBH this morning? | 11:49 |
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| [acl] | i smell a law dog | 11:49 |
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| L_miller | [acl] - did you see this post? | 12:11 |
| L_miller | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11560046#post11560046 | 12:11 |
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| [acl] | nope | 12:11 |
| [acl] | L_miller: i dont think im welcomed on xda :-p | 12:11 |
| L_miller | ahhh... Unless you are banned you are always welcome. ;) | 12:12 |
| [acl] | haha | 12:12 |
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| Diamonduser | hi | 12:33 |
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| Diamonduser | i got an probelm where to geht the XDAndroid.cab for touch diaond? | 12:33 |
| arrrghhh | don't use the cab | 12:33 |
| Diamonduser | why? | 12:34 |
| arrrghhh | cuz it's broken | 12:34 |
| arrrghhh | and sucks | 12:34 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951981 | 12:34 |
| Diamonduser | and how i had to install it | 12:34 |
| Diamonduser | sorry for my bad englisch | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | read | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | read that thread | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | it walks you thru how to install and configure. | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | read carefully | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | re-read | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | then ask questions :D | 12:35 |
| Diamonduser | i got an touch diamond | 12:35 |
| Diamonduser | i had no SD card | 12:35 |
| Diamonduser | ok | 12:35 |
| Diamonduser | i read | 12:35 |
| arrrghhh | thanks | 12:36 |
| arrrghhh | fyi, that 4gb "internal storage" on your DIAM is literally an SD card soldered to the board. | 12:36 |
| arrrghhh | so don't treat it any differently than a real SD, you just can't remove it ;). | 12:36 |
| Diamonduser | but i only want it to use it with Gen Y as bootabel | 12:38 |
| Diamonduser | like Hart | 12:38 |
| Diamonduser | i mean it looks like i had to install it... | 12:38 |
| arrrghhh | what are you talking about | 12:41 |
| arrrghhh | we don't support gen.y | 12:41 |
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| Diamonduser | sorry i am kunfused | 12:45 |
| Diamonduser | ok | 12:45 |
| arrrghhh | i'm confused as well | 12:45 |
| Diamonduser | but i am abel to run XDA android with GEN Y | 12:46 |
| Diamonduser | ? | 12:46 |
| arrrghhh | what are you trying to do? | 12:46 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 12:46 |
| arrrghhh | but we don't support gen.y | 12:46 |
| Diamonduser | first installing XDA android | 12:46 |
| arrrghhh | so if you have problems with it, post in that thread. | 12:46 |
| arrrghhh | the explanation of how gen.y works is very well-defined in that thread. | 12:46 |
| Diamonduser | then i want to can chsoose to boot between xda android and wm 6.1 | 12:46 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | but that's gen.y | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | which we don't support | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | so you can use it, just don't ask for help with it. we help with XDAndroid. | 12:47 |
| Diamonduser | Sorry | 12:48 |
| arrrghhh | np | 12:49 |
| arrrghhh | let me know if you need help with XDAndroid | 12:49 |
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| Diamonduser | 3. Go into the STARTUPS folder. Grab the appropriate startup.txt for your device, and move it to the root of the card (or where you run haret.exe from. If you want to change the location of the build, put a rel_path= statement in the cmdline section of the startup.txt. Mine is located two folders deep on the SD, so my rel_path=Androids/TP2Ref) | 12:53 |
| Diamonduser | i cant understand this | 12:53 |
| Diamonduser | what does it means | 12:53 |
| Diamonduser | sorry i am not to lazy | 12:53 |
| Diamonduser | but its hard to understand it for me | 12:53 |
| Diamonduser | i am german | 12:53 |
| Diamonduser | ... | 12:53 |
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| arrrghhh | germans speak very good english. | 12:54 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 12:54 |
| arrrghhh | so what is confusing | 12:54 |
| arrrghhh | go into the startups folder | 12:54 |
| arrrghhh | find your device | 12:54 |
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| arrrghhh | copy the startup.txt to the root of the SD (or wherever you're running haret.exe from. | 12:55 |
| Diamonduser | ok i means where the file is to start an programm i mean wm 6.1 or what ever | 12:55 |
| arrrghhh | wha? | 12:57 |
| arrrghhh | you extract the zip to your SD | 12:57 |
| Diamonduser | ok i am in the windows-AutoStart folder | 12:57 |
| Diamonduser | i extracted it | 12:57 |
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| Diamonduser | there are 3 datas | 12:57 |
| Diamonduser | autoshortcut | 12:58 |
| Diamonduser | HTCStartUP | 12:58 |
| Diamonduser | poutlook | 12:58 |
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| viperad | hi | 12:58 |
| L_miller | arrrghhh did you relock yet? | 12:59 |
| arrrghhh | not yet. | 12:59 |
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| L_miller | ok no problem. | 12:59 |
| Diamonduser | ok i had to put the autostartupshortcut into the folder where haret.exe is? | 13:00 |
| L_miller | can I give you another smaller kernal to test. Like ACL said? Just to get the double vibe? | 13:00 |
| arrrghhh | Diamonduser, autostartupshortcut...? | 13:01 |
| arrrghhh | what is this. | 13:01 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, sure | 13:01 |
| arrrghhh | i thought he said smaller initrd | 13:01 |
| L_miller | yup. | 13:01 |
| Diamonduser | i dont know | 13:01 |
| L_miller | i sec. | 13:01 |
| Diamonduser | i am in the autostrat folder | 13:01 |
| Diamonduser | startups folder | 13:02 |
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| arrrghhh | Diamonduser, there isn't an autostartu... oh ok. | 13:02 |
| dingbat | hyc tested that gemrb issue last night and had the same black screen with audio result | 13:02 |
| dingbat | here is a pastebin with all the needed info to test it out | 13:02 |
| dingbat | http://pastebin.com/qGP1P0BW | 13:02 |
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| arrrghhh | so take the startup.txt file from YOUR device and place it where haret.exe is run. | 13:02 |
| arrrghhh | dingbat, lolwut | 13:03 |
| viperad | hey i was trying to install the file "XDANDROID.21.6.10.AOSP" but everytime i got an error then i tried renaming files from the rhodium folder to default and pu in the SD card then the loading of linux came and then below it a black screen and phone restarted to Windows without any error. Please EHLP me what should i do? My Phone is Garmin-Asus nuvifone M10 | 13:03 |
| arrrghhh | we're not going to worry about some random emulator at this stage in the port. | 13:03 |
| arrrghhh | viperad, dude that's so old. | 13:03 |
| arrrghhh | and garmin? asus? | 13:03 |
| arrrghhh | we don't support that phone. | 13:03 |
| viperad | i know but all the htc touch pro 2 softwares run on it so this should too right? | 13:04 |
| arrrghhh | what? | 13:04 |
| viperad | am i doing some thing wrong | 13:04 |
| arrrghhh | that's not a touch pro 2 | 13:04 |
| |Jeroen| | lol | 13:04 |
| arrrghhh | garmin-asus nuvifone | 13:04 |
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| |Jeroen| | xdandroid is not a software, its an os | 13:04 |
| arrrghhh | viperad, the OS has been ported to work on specific phones | 13:05 |
| arrrghhh | some phones are supported better than others. | 13:05 |
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| manekineko | dingbat, does that thing work with the drivers tiad8 used? | 13:05 |
| arrrghhh | a ton of phones are completely unsupported, i've never even heard of a garmin phone. | 13:05 |
| dingbat | manekineko, no | 13:05 |
| viperad | i know but the all softwares meant for pro2 work on my phone. | 13:06 |
| arrrghhh | viperad, what does that mean | 13:06 |
| viperad | i mean the games, GPs apps | 13:06 |
| viperad | etc | 13:06 |
| manekineko | hmm, so trying to get the drivers from there was a dead end | 13:06 |
| arrrghhh | for WinMo? | 13:06 |
| viperad | yes | 13:06 |
| viperad | Windows Mobile 6.5.3 | 13:07 |
| arrrghhh | viperad, this room isn't for WinMo... | 13:07 |
| viperad | oh.. | 13:07 |
| arrrghhh | this room is for XDAndroid | 13:07 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 13:07 |
| manekineko | seems pretty tough, we just use binary drivers I think | 13:07 |
| Diamonduser | i cant find the startup.txt | 13:07 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko, since when does tiad8 use different drivers in his build? | 13:07 |
| arrrghhh | Diamonduser, wha? | 13:07 |
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| manekineko | tiad8 uses some drivers he dug up somewhere, there are a couple different versions of the drivers floating around I believe | 13:08 |
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| manekineko | but at any rate, given that we use binary drivers, if there is an unimplemented function, I don't really know what could be done | 13:08 |
| manekineko | other than finding working drivers | 13:08 |
| arrrghhh | i don't get what's not working | 13:08 |
| dingbat | if you're curious, try testing it out | 13:09 |
| manekineko | he mentioned earlier that he gets an error in his logs for an unimplemented function in opengles 1.0 | 13:09 |
| arrrghhh | but this is for a specific app | 13:09 |
| manekineko | dingbat, I don't know what there is to test, other than just trying different drivers | 13:09 |
| arrrghhh | there's no system functionality missing...? | 13:09 |
| manekineko | well the app is an example of something that attempts to call an unimplemented function it sounds like | 13:09 |
| manekineko | at least from the log message | 13:09 |
| arrrghhh | do we get this from anything within the system is what i'm asking | 13:10 |
| arrrghhh | can we reproduce it without using this emulator. | 13:10 |
| manekineko | just the log | 13:10 |
| dingbat | do the drivers used support all opengl es 1.0 api calls | 13:10 |
| arrrghhh | because IMHO that's not a good test, using some 3rd party app. | 13:10 |
| manekineko | right, I agree with that arrrghhh | 13:10 |
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| arrrghhh | dingbat, no way to know for sure. they "should" | 13:10 |
| manekineko | so what're you saying dingbat, that it's an application error as opposed to a driver issue? | 13:10 |
| L_miller | arrrghhh - http://www.mediafire.com/?otldgq63aeu15o8 | 13:11 |
| L_miller | our kernal is already smaller then the vogues... :) | 13:11 |
| Diamonduser | ups sorry i found it | 13:11 |
| arrrghhh | lol so wha'd you do? | 13:11 |
| Diamonduser | .... | 13:11 |
| L_miller | But I got it down from 1.2 MD to 864kb. | 13:11 |
| Diamonduser | its in the folder of the frx... | 13:11 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 13:11 |
| L_miller | Just removed a bunch of stuff we don't need to beet. | 13:11 |
| Diamonduser | sorry | 13:11 |
| arrrghhh | well, here goes somethin | 13:12 |
| arrrghhh | dling now | 13:12 |
| Diamonduser | hmm an wich diamond i have 100 or 500 shit... | 13:12 |
| Diamonduser | i have an P3700 | 13:13 |
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| arrrghhh | Diamonduser, there's another name for it | 13:13 |
| arrrghhh | DIAM100 probably | 13:13 |
| arrrghhh | DIAM500 is CDMA | 13:13 |
| dingbat | manekineko, the programmer managed to use it on an LG Optimus 540 with Qualcomm MSM7227 chipset | 13:14 |
| Diamonduser | ok i should usw DIAM100? | 13:14 |
| manekineko | I guess I just don't get what you think the problem is then | 13:14 |
| dingbat | that would suggest a driver issue | 13:14 |
| manekineko | but you just said you believe all functions are implemented in the drivers | 13:14 |
| dingbat | I was asking if they are | 13:15 |
| Diamonduser | ok | 13:15 |
| dingbat | arrrghhh responded that there's no way to tell | 13:15 |
| Diamonduser | it works | 13:15 |
| Diamonduser | ohhh man | 13:15 |
| manekineko | oh I see, misread your comment, apologies | 13:15 |
| Diamonduser | my englisch isnt to bad i think but this is to hard | 13:15 |
| arrrghhh | dingbat, i mean they should work, but how can you verify? unless there is some opengles tester | 13:15 |
| Diamonduser | -.- | 13:15 |
| arrrghhh | Diamonduser, if it's too hard stick to winmo | 13:15 |
| arrrghhh | no body is forcing you to use Android. | 13:16 |
| Diamonduser | nono | 13:16 |
| dingbat | manekineko, np | 13:16 |
| Diamonduser | i mean its hard to understand you all | 13:16 |
| dingbat | arrrghhh, I'll ask around | 13:16 |
| dingbat | it's over my head | 13:16 |
| arrrghhh | dingbat, ditto | 13:16 |
| manekineko | dingbat, why don't you just try some more drivers | 13:16 |
| arrrghhh | but 3rd party apps are almost impossible to support | 13:16 |
| manekineko | see if you can find one that works | 13:16 |
| arrrghhh | especially considering the state of our port. | 13:16 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, do i need a new androidupdate.tar? | 13:17 |
| arrrghhh | or can i just use the one you posted on ppcg this morning? | 13:17 |
| dingbat | I'll find a phone with a msm72x chipset instead of this msm75x | 13:17 |
| dingbat | then try tiad8's drivers | 13:17 |
| manekineko | well, no sense trying tiad8's if it didn't work there either | 13:17 |
| dingbat | yeah, guess not | 13:18 |
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| L_miller | arrrghhh - you won't need anything on your sd. :-p | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | oO? | 13:19 |
| L_miller | It won't get that far. :-d | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | oh right | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | just a test. | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | alrighty then. | 13:19 |
| L_miller | yup. | 13:19 |
| L_miller | Got to run for a couple of minutes. | 13:19 |
| L_miller | bbl | 13:19 |
| arrrghhh | kk | 13:20 |
| arrrghhh | brb myself | 13:20 |
| arrrghhh | time to brick | 13:20 |
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| Diamonduser | how long does it takes in the linux booting what ever | 13:25 |
| Diamonduser | ? | 13:25 |
| Diamonduser | in the booting time in linux how long does it takes | 13:27 |
| manekineko | what do see on the screen Diamonduser? | 13:28 |
| manekineko | first boot takes quite a while, maybe as long as 5-10 minutes | 13:29 |
| manekineko | but sometimes it can get stuck at various points too | 13:29 |
| Diamonduser | i see at the end | 13:29 |
| Diamonduser | ... | 13:29 |
| manekineko | what? | 13:29 |
| Diamonduser | mdp_dma: Busy | 13:30 |
| Diamonduser | ohh now it does something | 13:30 |
| Diamonduser | r5:000000000 r4:00000000 | 13:30 |
| Diamonduser | ok is it not working or is it installing or installing | 13:30 |
| Diamonduser | ? | 13:30 |
| manekineko | did you put in the calibration file like the instructions said? | 13:30 |
| Diamonduser | i understand it like i need it when i havent an calibration what ever | 13:32 |
| Diamonduser | i tought i can use that wm 6.1 calibrator | 13:32 |
| Diamonduser | or i had to usw this one in the instruction | 13:32 |
| manekineko | no, you need to download the file in the post arrrghhh linked you to | 13:32 |
| Diamonduser | sorrry | 13:32 |
| Diamonduser | i fix it | 13:32 |
| Diamonduser | just 5 min | 13:33 |
| Diamonduser | ... | 13:33 |
| Diamonduser | sorry | 13:33 |
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| Diamonduser | i cant download this calibrator | 13:36 |
| manekineko | why not? | 13:36 |
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| Diamonduser | ok got it now where i had to place it? where the haret.exe is | 13:42 |
| manekineko | yeah, all of the files should be in the same place | 13:42 |
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| viperad | i am trying to install "ProjectAndroid2.2Froyo.012311" but after 3 bars of progress the setup goes back to choose location and says cannot be installed. i have about 1.45 GB free in all location except my device. PHONE Garmin-Asus nuvifone M10 WM 6.5.3 | 13:46 |
| viperad | whats wrong? | 13:46 |
| viperad | its same as htc touch pro 2 | 13:46 |
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| Diamonduser | ok | 13:53 |
| Diamonduser | i placed it | 13:53 |
| Diamonduser | and were eating | 13:53 |
| Diamonduser | or was | 13:53 |
| Diamonduser | i dont know-.- | 13:54 |
| Diamonduser | sorry that i ask again | 13:55 |
| Diamonduser | but or forget it | 13:55 |
| Diamonduser | what the... | 13:56 |
| Diamonduser | i put the calibration file there where i had the haret exe | 13:56 |
| Diamonduser | and now there is | 13:56 |
| Diamonduser | r5:0000000 r4:000000 | 13:56 |
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| arrrghhh | L_miller, :( | 13:58 |
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| Diamonduser | what happens with that r5:0000000 r4:000000 i did everthing i had to do | 14:00 |
| arrrghhh | i see you skipped the calibration step Diamonduser | 14:00 |
| Diamonduser | i put it in the folder where i had the Haret.exe | 14:01 |
| Diamonduser | ??? | 14:01 |
| Diamonduser | wrong | 14:01 |
| Diamonduser | ? | 14:01 |
| arrrghhh | that is correct | 14:01 |
| arrrghhh | everything is at the root of your SD? | 14:01 |
| arrrghhh | (4gb internal storage) | 14:01 |
| Diamonduser | yes it is | 14:02 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 14:02 |
| Diamonduser | the calibration the startup.txt | 14:02 |
| arrrghhh | and? | 14:02 |
| Diamonduser | nothing | 14:02 |
| arrrghhh | so ts-calibration | 14:02 |
| arrrghhh | and startup.txt | 14:03 |
| Diamonduser | istyes too | 14:03 |
| arrrghhh | you renamed ts-calibration.txt to just "ts-calibration" right? | 14:03 |
| Diamonduser | wait | 14:03 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 14:03 |
| arrrghhh | please read ALL directions carefully. | 14:03 |
| arrrghhh | you CANNOT skip around or skim the directions. | 14:04 |
| Diamonduser | i read all really | 14:04 |
| Diamonduser | nono | 14:04 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 14:04 |
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| Diamonduser | but someting... i cant understand smething | 14:04 |
| arrrghhh | what | 14:04 |
| L_miller | Ok didn't think so. :( | 14:05 |
| L_miller | Ohh well. | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, eh worth a shot. | 14:05 |
| L_miller | yup. | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | i'm leary of relocking tho | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | AFAIK you can only unlock once... | 14:05 |
| Diamonduser | yes the calibration names | 14:06 |
| manekineko | the NAND? are you sure, I'd never heard that before | 14:06 |
| manekineko | in fact, I think I mgiht have unlocked and relocked more than once | 14:06 |
| L_miller | looks like Nate. is on the same page as us now. | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko, i mean SPL | 14:06 |
| Diamonduser | ts-calibration | 14:06 |
| L_miller | Well if you use another pc you are ok. :) | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko, you have to pay to do hSPL more than once | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | oO? | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | i thought it was tied to the phone | 14:06 |
| L_miller | But if you don't want to I understand. | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | not the PC | 14:06 |
| L_miller | Nope. | 14:06 |
| L_miller | IP of the PC. | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | huh | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | IP? | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | lol that's retarded. | 14:07 |
| L_miller | So I heard.... | 14:07 |
| L_miller | yeah. | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | werid. | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | weird* | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | i thought it was MEID or whatever that unique identifier is. | 14:07 |
| Diamonduser | ok | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | lunchtime | 14:07 |
| Diamonduser | everything is done like i had to do | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | L_miller, i expect to be able to flash by the time i get back. | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | bbl | 14:08 |
| L_miller | ok sounds good. Are you going to relock and unlock? | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | ;) | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 14:08 |
| L_miller | kk good luck! | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | maybe. | 14:08 |
| L_miller | ohh... | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | not sure yet. | 14:08 |
| L_miller | ok. | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | i expect you to make it so i can flash by the time i get back from lunch | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | peace | 14:09 |
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| Diamonduser | wtf i am going crazy!!!! | 14:13 |
| Diamonduser | again r5:000000 r4:00000000 | 14:13 |
| Diamonduser | somebody who can help me | 14:18 |
| Naad | Diamonduser I'm not sure but the ts-calibration file, where is it from? | 14:20 |
| Diamonduser | it is in the folder where haret is | 14:21 |
| Diamonduser | and naes ts-..... | 14:21 |
| Diamonduser | like you wrote | 14:21 |
| Naad | ok | 14:21 |
| Naad | but it was included in the download | 14:21 |
| Diamonduser | i had asked google and i found somebody means there is no animation | 14:22 |
| Naad | ? | 14:22 |
| Diamonduser | ok | 14:23 |
| Naad | the ts-calibration.txt that is in the download is for a Rhodium (touch pro 2).. the calibration file for a diamond is different | 14:23 |
| Diamonduser | in this FRX04 folder is | 14:23 |
| Naad | so go to http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20101124_204019-package.tar.bz2 | 14:23 |
| Naad | in your anboot folder delete the zImage and modules files | 14:24 |
| Naad | replace with these, rename zImage... to just zImage | 14:24 |
| Naad | boot, go through calibration | 14:24 |
| Diamonduser | AndroidApps conf media STRATUPS haret.exe initrd modules... rootfs starup.txt sytem ts-balibration zImage | 14:24 |
| Naad | i know whats in that folder. it's good | 14:25 |
| Diamonduser | ok i had to replace the zImage ? | 14:25 |
| Naad | but you need your own (personal) ts-calibration i think | 14:25 |
| Naad | yes download the files in the link, that's an old kernel | 14:25 |
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| Diamonduser | and what to do with the modules-...... replace too | 14:27 |
| Naad | [20:24] <Naad> in your anboot folder delete the zImage and modules files | 14:28 |
| Naad | and then replace those yes | 14:28 |
| Diamonduser | ok now it shoud works | 14:28 |
| Naad | leave the name of the module file as it is | 14:28 |
| Naad | it should ask for calibration while you see the text | 14:29 |
| Diamonduser | you mean what | 14:29 |
| Naad | calibrate by tapping on the squares | 14:29 |
| Diamonduser | i replacet this 2 fils and now i want to start haret | 14:29 |
| Naad | yes | 14:29 |
| Diamonduser | and it says faild to load file /internerSpeicher/FRX04/zimage | 14:30 |
| Diamonduser | name the new zimage like the old one ? | 14:30 |
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| Naad | yes. | 14:30 |
| Diamonduser | ok | 14:30 |
| Naad | zImage it should be called | 14:30 |
| Naad | please read what i say | 14:31 |
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| Naad | [20:24] <Naad> replace with these, rename zImage... to just zImage | 14:31 |
| xtremist | hey i have one question whenevr i tried to use froyo my phone crashes | 14:31 |
| xtremist | but gingerbread is working ok | 14:31 |
| xtremist | and much fast | 14:31 |
| Naad | which build do you use? | 14:31 |
| xtremist | i hv diamond100 | 14:31 |
| xtremist | arrrghh posted on xda | 14:31 |
| Naad | hmm.. | 14:31 |
| xtremist | frx04 i thnl | 14:31 |
| xtremist | yaa | 14:31 |
| xtremist | i thnk i also chnged kernels | 14:32 |
| Naad | dunno about diamond phones.. | 14:32 |
| Naad | should work | 14:32 |
| Naad | where does it crash? | 14:32 |
| xtremist | but still my phone works slow this ginger is must fast then froyo how ever its more unstable as i read on all threads | 14:32 |
| xtremist | on main andriod screen after unlocking phone | 14:32 |
| xtremist | just after 1 or 2 mins | 14:32 |
| Naad | hmm.. tried deleting data.img? | 14:33 |
| xtremist | even not showing ringtones nothing | 14:33 |
| xtremist | yupp | 14:33 |
| Naad | format your sd? | 14:33 |
| xtremist | yup | 14:33 |
| xtremist | well ginger is also ok | 14:33 |
| Naad | strange.. haha. Don't have a diamond, so dunno much about what else could be wrong | 14:33 |
| Naad | you use same kernels on both Gingerbread and Froyo? | 14:34 |
| xtremist | hahahah ya its strange froyo is stable but not wroking this ginger is new its wrking :P | 14:34 |
| xtremist | yuppp | 14:34 |
| Diamonduser | and rename the modules..... file to | 14:34 |
| Diamonduser | ??? | 14:34 |
| Naad | [20:28] <Naad> leave the name of the module file as it is | 14:35 |
| Naad | reading really helps dude | 14:35 |
| xtremist | i also used old one htc-msm-linux-20101204_010857-package.tar | 14:35 |
| xtremist | i knw i didnt chnge the modules names | 14:35 |
| xtremist | jus chnged zimage name to as on startup | 14:35 |
| Naad | no, sorry was to diamonduser | 14:35 |
| xtremist | okkk | 14:35 |
| Diamonduser | i read it but it isnt working | 14:36 |
| Naad | where does it crash? | 14:36 |
| xtremist | do u knw when andriod team comeout with final release | 14:36 |
| Diamonduser | the original one | 14:36 |
| Diamonduser | names | 14:36 |
| Diamonduser | modules-2.6.27.46-01253-gd53ddf6.tar | 14:36 |
| xtremist | on nand for diamond | 14:36 |
| Diamonduser | and the new one | 14:36 |
| xtremist | diamond dont chnge the names | 14:37 |
| Diamonduser | modules-2.6.27.46-01253-gd53ddf6.tar | 14:37 |
| Diamonduser | modules-2.6.27.46-01225-g3f3a047.tar | 14:37 |
| xtremist | leave is as it is if zimage name is chnged like zimage121432421 blah blah then change it to zImage | 14:37 |
| Diamonduser | i dont changed it | 14:37 |
| Diamonduser | i did | 14:37 |
| xtremist | well u knw i also having problm wth froyo m using ginger | 14:37 |
| xtremist | u should try it once | 14:37 |
| Diamonduser | thew zImage changed | 14:38 |
| Naad | but xtremist your froyo is booting | 14:38 |
| Diamonduser | the modules not changed | 14:38 |
| Naad | diamonduser's froyo isn't booting (i think) | 14:38 |
| xtremist | not booting :S | 14:38 |
| xtremist | diamond downlaod full bundle | 14:39 |
| Diamonduser | what is froyo? | 14:39 |
| Diamonduser | i did it | 14:39 |
| Naad | ow boy.. | 14:39 |
| xtremist | n first format your memory on fat32 | 14:39 |
| Diamonduser | downloadet the bundel | 14:39 |
| Naad | diamonduser you are german right? | 14:39 |
| manekineko | hmm dingbat, I am seeing the problem you were talking about | 14:39 |
| Diamonduser | put the calibration and the diam100 startup.txt | 14:39 |
| xtremist | yupp | 14:39 |
| Diamonduser | yes | 14:39 |
| manekineko | if you install the testing application, OpenGl 3D Showcase | 14:40 |
| xtremist | then run haret | 14:40 |
| manekineko | quite a lot of the tests trigger the unimplemented function error | 14:40 |
| manekineko | and a few crash entirely | 14:40 |
| Naad | maybe I understand your problem sometimes better if you talk german.. but this channel is most likely english.. | 14:40 |
| Diamonduser | ok haret is booting | 14:40 |
| Naad | good | 14:40 |
| xtremist | ya let is boot | 14:40 |
| xtremist | dont worry even it say busy busy already on 4 4 | 14:41 |
| xtremist | mda busy | 14:41 |
| xtremist | just ignore and wait hv patience | 14:41 |
| Diamonduser | ok it says can´t access tty; job control turned off | 14:41 |
| xtremist | hey i saw one problem with diamonds screen black | 14:42 |
| xtremist | ya | 14:42 |
| xtremist | dont worryy | 14:42 |
| xtremist | dude | 14:42 |
| xtremist | dont panic | 14:42 |
| xtremist | its booting | 14:42 |
| Diamonduser | yes i know but last time it says that thing with busy trash.... | 14:43 |
| Diamonduser | :D | 14:43 |
| xtremist | hahaha eu knw itried like 50 times | 14:43 |
| xtremist | hahahah | 14:43 |
| xtremist | u knw i tried * | 14:43 |
| Diamonduser | ok now it says that r5:00000 ..... etc crap | 14:44 |
| Diamonduser | ohhh man i did everyting | 14:44 |
| xtremist | dude let it run if it didnt worked use this kernel htc-msm-linux-20101204_010857-package.tar | 14:45 |
| xtremist | well i thnk u should try ginger | 14:45 |
| Diamonduser | i dont want to be "cheeky" is it right | 14:45 |
| xtremist | as m using diamond and using ginger | 14:46 |
| xtremist | and working much better then froyo for me | 14:46 |
| Diamonduser | ok what do you mean | 14:46 |
| xtremist | thers other version gingerbread | 14:47 |
| Diamonduser | what is htc-msm-linux-20101204_010857-package.tar | 14:47 |
| xtremist | its a kernel | 14:47 |
| Diamonduser | where i can get it | 14:47 |
| xtremist | ur phone booting ? | 14:49 |
| xtremist | is it on that flying pic ? | 14:49 |
| Diamonduser | what | 14:49 |
| Diamonduser | no there is that r5:000000.... thing | 14:50 |
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| xtremist | dude formt ur internal memory | 14:50 |
| Diamonduser | yes i boot from internal memory | 14:50 |
| xtremist | and download this package as working for me and m on diamond | 14:51 |
| xtremist | http://files.xdandroid.com/GBX0A_Full_Bundle_12.2.2011.zip | 14:51 |
| Diamonduser | i have this bundle | 14:51 |
| xtremist | thne use this | 14:51 |
| xtremist | then* | 14:51 |
| Diamonduser | i used it all the thime | 14:51 |
| Diamonduser | i mean | 14:51 |
| Diamonduser | scine 2 hours | 14:51 |
| xtremist | which thng not working for you :S | 14:52 |
| xtremist | like m using this since week and m hapoy | 14:52 |
| xtremist | happy | 14:52 |
| Diamonduser | i did everthing i had to do | 14:52 |
| Diamonduser | 1. Download the full bundle (zip). If instead you just want the system.ext2 (zip) file by itself... 2. Extract it. You’ll see a folder, FRX04, copy its contents to the root of your SD card. 3. Go into the STARTUPS folder. Grab the appropriate startup.txt for your device, and move it to the root of the card (or where you run haret.exe from. If you want to change the location of the build, put a rel_path= statement in the c | 14:52 |
| Diamonduser | all of that i did | 14:52 |
| xtremist | but | 14:53 |
| xtremist | i did this 2 and working | 14:53 |
| xtremist | well ur phone boots ? | 14:53 |
| xtremist | well give me your msn ? | 14:53 |
| xtremist | or yahoo | 14:53 |
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| Diamonduser | i only have skype | 14:54 |
| Diamonduser | ... | 14:54 |
| xtremist | i thought we will do teamviewer | 14:54 |
| xtremist | and make this thing working | 14:54 |
| Diamonduser | hmmm.. | 14:54 |
| Diamonduser | ok | 14:54 |
| Diamonduser | lets do this | 14:54 |
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| xtremist | well u knw its eating batter :P | 14:55 |
| xtremist | battery* | 14:55 |
| xtremist | ok | 14:55 |
| xtremist | gimme ur team viewer | 14:55 |
| Diamonduser | k wait | 14:56 |
| Diamonduser | 498 566 400 | 14:56 |
| Diamonduser | 6404 | 14:56 |
| Diamonduser | have you conncted? | 14:57 |
| Diamonduser | ? | 14:57 |
| xtremist | just a second | 14:57 |
| Diamonduser | ok | 14:57 |
| Diamonduser | wtf | 14:57 |
| Diamonduser | 498 566 400 | 14:58 |
| xtremist | wht happend | 14:58 |
| Diamonduser | 6793 | 14:58 |
| Diamonduser | dont know | 14:58 |
| Diamonduser | ok | 14:58 |
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| dingbat | manekineko, I'm interested in helping to squish those bugs but am going to be very tied up for the next few days | 15:13 |
| manekineko | okay, what do you have in mind? are you a programmer? | 15:14 |
| dingbat | to some extent, haven't created anything for android yet | 15:14 |
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| manekineko | okay, fyi, I tried subbing in the drivers from the Hero that are supposed to support opengles 1.1 | 15:15 |
| manekineko | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=899801 | 15:15 |
| manekineko | that everyone on all the other device forums seem excited about | 15:15 |
| manekineko | still getting those errors, and crashes on certain operations | 15:15 |
| manekineko | it'd be nice if we could somehow run down one of the people on these native devices (Hero, Cliq, etc.) that are running this 1.1 driver | 15:16 |
| manekineko | and see if all the test routines run without error on their devices | 15:16 |
| manekineko | it'd be fairly easy to check for crashes | 15:16 |
| manekineko | would need to get logcat to check for the unimplemented functions | 15:17 |
| manekineko | just for reference, the first test that causes the "unimplemented OpenGL ES API" error is 17. Point Size Attenuation | 15:23 |
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| manekineko | also, the first test that causes a force close is 18. Stencil Buffer Shadows | 15:24 |
| manekineko | the logcat shows on the force close java.lang.RuntimeException: Unable to start activity ComponentInfo{yz.opengl.es11/yz.opengl.es11.CubeRenderer18}: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException | 15:24 |
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| xtremist | hey | 16:13 |
| xtremist | when will andriod cum on nand on diamond | 16:13 |
| xtremist | well i heard someone testing | 16:13 |
| xtremist | is that true | 16:13 |
| xtremist | ? | 16:13 |
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| byrnsey88 | hey i have been running android on my rhod500 for a while now but i cannot use the gps. it crashes my phone back to windows everytime | 16:19 |
| byrnsey88 | any help would be greatly appreciated | 16:19 |
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| arrrghhh | woah. room seems.... light on people. | 17:03 |
| arrrghhh | i'm guessing netsplit | 17:03 |
| XirXes | indeed | 17:04 |
| arrrghhh | damn freenode | 17:05 |
| arrrghhh | been choking lately | 17:05 |
| XirXes | its pretty big | 17:05 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 17:06 |
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| arrrghhh | wtf freenode, unsplit! | 17:12 |
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| stinebd | haha wow 13 people | 17:17 |
| stinebd | at least the bot is here | 17:17 |
| stinebd | 21 in #htc-linux | 17:18 |
| stinebd | we win the ratio contest | 17:18 |
| stinebd | i have good news | 17:22 |
| stinebd | jbruneaux has submitted his camera userland changes to me | 17:23 |
| stinebd | not sure if i'll accept them | 17:23 |
| stinebd | i should probably look and see before i decided | 17:23 |
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| arrrghhh | damn! still a ghost town eh | 17:28 |
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| arrrghhh | stinebd, good news that jerome submitted his patches. | 17:31 |
| arrrghhh | sign that we're almost there for cam support | 17:31 |
| stinebd | nope | 17:31 |
| arrrghhh | YES | 17:31 |
| arrrghhh | WE ARE | 17:31 |
| stinebd | listen son | 17:31 |
| stinebd | there is a possibility that one of the 7 people in here is actually here | 17:32 |
| stinebd | we don't need media leaks | 17:32 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:32 |
| arrrghhh | you started it. | 17:32 |
| stinebd | there is some really weird stuff going on with freenode right now | 17:34 |
| arrrghhh | seriously | 17:34 |
| arrrghhh | never seen a netsplit this long. | 17:34 |
| stinebd | people having their nicknames changed to random characters (netripper for example) | 17:34 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:34 |
| stinebd | well it's a sustained ddos at osuosl | 17:34 |
| arrrghhh | you know that? | 17:34 |
| stinebd | yeah | 17:34 |
| arrrghhh | who would ddos that? | 17:34 |
| stinebd | and a good source says they're going to send freenode into its own vlan there soon | 17:35 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 17:35 |
| stinebd | because other projects are sick of the interruptions from freenode's ddoses | 17:35 |
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| arrrghhh | heh | 17:36 |
| stinebd | freenode has lots of enemies | 17:36 |
| arrrghhh | really? | 17:36 |
| arrrghhh | they're not like some giant corporation | 17:36 |
| arrrghhh | sucking money from people | 17:36 |
| stinebd | well i don't want to get into their money issues in public | 17:36 |
| arrrghhh | money issues | 17:37 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 17:37 |
| stinebd | have you ever seen death to smoochy? | 17:37 |
| arrrghhh | well i was hoping to tell L_miller he sent me on a pointless wild goose chase. | 17:37 |
| arrrghhh | but now i can't :/ | 17:37 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 17:37 |
| arrrghhh | weird ass robin williams flick | 17:37 |
| stinebd | yeah | 17:37 |
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| arrrghhh | holy unslpit | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | split | 17:39 |
| stinebd | with a bunch of children's shows running charitable events where all the money goes to mob bosses | 17:39 |
| stinebd | lots of charities and not-for-profits have a skimming problem | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | lol L_miller's not even on. | 17:39 |
| * arrrghhh fail | 17:39 | |
| stinebd | oh | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 17:39 |
| stinebd | and if he asks what i did to fix gsm nand boot, tell him i took out the damn sim card | 17:39 |
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| arrrghhh | lol | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | how can you get service tho? | 17:39 |
| stinebd | who cares | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | assuming you wanted to. | 17:40 |
| stinebd | it boots | 17:40 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:40 |
| arrrghhh | fair enough. | 17:40 |
| stinebd | damn now we lost rpierce99 | 17:40 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 17:40 |
| arrrghhh | casuality i'm willing to accept. | 17:40 |
| arrrghhh | er casualty | 17:40 |
| stinebd | jbruneaux doesn't irc does he? | 17:41 |
| arrrghhh | rarely | 17:41 |
| stinebd | know his nick? | 17:41 |
| arrrghhh | i thought he just went by jbruneaux | 17:42 |
| arrrghhh | viruscrazy on xda-devs, perhaps the same on here | 17:43 |
| arrrghhh | lets see if apt has anything to say about it | 17:43 |
| arrrghhh | apt> jbruneaux <527f4463@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.127.68.99> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 63d 4h 35m 49s ago, saying: 'ok, i'm going to make the patch.'. | 17:45 |
| arrrghhh | lol. rarely. | 17:45 |
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| arrrghhh | stinebd, your lover is back | 17:46 |
| stinebd | https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_system_netd/commit/f08305cab5420e029ebc6f169ec74c926e7dabaa | 17:46 |
| stinebd | that looks interesting | 17:46 |
| * rpierce99 hope arrrghhh is talking about him, <3 stinebd | 17:47 | |
| stinebd | probably some wl1271 crap | 17:47 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:47 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, OMAP stuff? | 17:47 |
| arrrghhh | or is that BT crap | 17:48 |
| stinebd | wifi | 17:48 |
| stinebd | tethering | 17:48 |
| arrrghhh | oic | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, getting reports on data cutting out after a phone call in GB | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | haven't confirmed, i would ask if you've seen this on your RAPH but you probably never test calls on your RAPH | 17:51 |
| stinebd | not yet | 17:51 |
| stinebd | gsm? cdma? boards? | 17:52 |
| arrrghhh | RHODs have reported it | 17:52 |
| arrrghhh | CDMA | 17:52 |
| arrrghhh | i haven't tested it, i can when i get home. | 17:52 |
| stinebd | data cuts out during calls right? | 17:53 |
| stinebd | cdma has that whole voice-vs-data retention deal | 17:53 |
| stinebd | err | 17:53 |
| stinebd | contention | 17:53 |
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| arrrghhh | not during calls | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | so when the call ends | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | data restores (typically) | 17:57 |
| stinebd | right | 17:57 |
| stinebd | and that's failing | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | but in gb, when the call ends, data does not restore on its own | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 17:57 |
| stinebd | ril's fault | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | they said if they cycle data | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | it's fixed. | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | so phh when are you going to wrap HTC's RIL for us? :P | 17:57 |
| stinebd | we have a ril wrapper already | 17:57 |
| stinebd | from the hd2 guys | 17:58 |
| stinebd | the problem is we don't have a cdma/gsm ril blob | 17:58 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 17:58 |
| stinebd | plus having our own ril makes us awesome | 17:58 |
| arrrghhh | it does make us awesome | 17:58 |
| arrrghhh | but it also makes the RIL kinda shitty :P | 17:58 |
| stinebd | only for cdma | 17:58 |
| stinebd | it's kinda great for gsm | 17:58 |
| arrrghhh | kinda | 17:59 |
| arrrghhh | i have gsm folk piss and moan about issues | 17:59 |
| stinebd | that's at&t's fault | 17:59 |
| arrrghhh | most recent the panel collapse code evidently kills the radio | 17:59 |
| arrrghhh | so when the phone is sleeping, no radio lol | 17:59 |
| stinebd | definitely att | 17:59 |
| arrrghhh | HEH | 17:59 |
| stinebd | displaygate | 17:59 |
| arrrghhh | in poland? | 17:59 |
| stinebd | tell him he's holding it wrong | 18:00 |
| arrrghhh | right. | 18:00 |
| stinebd | gotta hold it like this http://nowsourcing.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/bush_doing_it_wrong.jpg | 18:00 |
| arrrghhh | phone must be sitting on the desk | 18:00 |
| arrrghhh | let me guess | 18:00 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 18:00 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:00 |
| stinebd | wow i have this shell still open from when i was debugging my new libsensors | 18:02 |
| stinebd | ah the memories | 18:02 |
| stinebd | and anger | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | home time | 18:06 |
| arrrghhh | bbl | 18:06 |
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| stinebd | arrrghhh: my camera's not working | 20:16 |
| stinebd | oops | 20:17 |
| stinebd | i meant 'arrrghhh.' not 'arrrghhh:' | 20:17 |
| stinebd | an expression of frustration | 20:17 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:17 |
| arrrghhh | did he give you all the patched stuff for camcorder as well? | 20:17 |
| arrrghhh | holy hell, added a lot. | 20:18 |
| manekineko | maybe he died while he was writing it.... | 20:18 |
| arrrghhh | wha? | 20:18 |
| manekineko | heh, n/m I'm just a nerd | 20:19 |
| stinebd | i've got a pair of patched liboemcamera (using the legend version) and all his source patches | 20:19 |
| stinebd | one of which isn't applicable with gingerbread | 20:19 |
| stinebd | the one regarding codecs, which we've already got in gingerbread so it's not needed | 20:19 |
| arrrghhh | i thought you needed the dream version | 20:20 |
| arrrghhh | unless i have it backwards. | 20:21 |
| stinebd | hell if i know | 20:21 |
| arrrghhh | lol let me check | 20:21 |
| stinebd | if it matters then we've got problems | 20:21 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:21 |
| arrrghhh | nope | 20:21 |
| arrrghhh | i've got it backwards. | 20:21 |
| arrrghhh | legend is the one you're supposed to use. | 20:21 |
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| arrrghhh | nate you tease. | 20:23 |
| arrrghhh | he tells us how to fix it, and tells us to try for ourselves.. damnit jim i'm lazy, gimmie the nbh! lol | 20:23 |
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| natemcnutty | arrrghhh: you there? | 20:23 |
| arrrghhh | speak of the devin! | 20:23 |
| arrrghhh | devil. | 20:24 |
| arrrghhh | poop. | 20:24 |
| natemcnutty | LOL | 20:24 |
| arrrghhh | yes, what's up nate? | 20:24 |
| natemcnutty | I fixed it | 20:24 |
| arrrghhh | i read. | 20:24 |
| arrrghhh | i was just lamenting your post | 20:24 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 20:24 |
| natemcnutty | thought I'd give you a heads up | 20:24 |
| arrrghhh | <arrrghhh> nate you tease. | 20:24 |
| arrrghhh | <arrrghhh> he tells us how to fix it, and tells us to try for ourselves.. damnit jim i'm lazy, gimmie the nbh! lol | 20:24 |
| stinebd | oh god | 20:24 |
| stinebd | oh god noob | 20:24 |
| stinebd | noooooooooooooooob | 20:24 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:24 |
| stinebd | i didn't unzip-files! | 20:24 |
| natemcnutty | lol | 20:24 |
| arrrghhh | oh stine. | 20:24 |
| stinebd | because i didn't make the zip | 20:24 |
| stinebd | so i must copy the lib by hand now | 20:24 |
| natemcnutty | I'm just testing some stuff before I post them | 20:25 |
| stinebd | go go gadget adb gadget | 20:25 |
| arrrghhh | natemcnutty, cool. | 20:25 |
| natemcnutty | seeing how small I can make the fatfs | 20:25 |
| arrrghhh | so how you been man? been bugging you to hop on sometime. | 20:25 |
| natemcnutty | and testing what happens to the payload using the scripts everyone is using | 20:25 |
| natemcnutty | yeah, been really busy | 20:25 |
| arrrghhh | life does that sometimes... | 20:25 |
| stinebd | hi natemcnutty. i'm playing with nand on my shiny new old tilt2 | 20:25 |
| stinebd | one day i might get it to work even | 20:26 |
| natemcnutty | finally done with the whole legal thing at work, but the wife has been eating up a lot of my time lately | 20:26 |
| natemcnutty | nice stinebd | 20:26 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 20:26 |
| natemcnutty | you got GSM to NAND boot? | 20:26 |
| stinebd | installing goes well but /data is being a whore | 20:26 |
| arrrghhh | yea my gf has been upset at the amount of time i spend online messing with this. | 20:26 |
| stinebd | it tries to boot. gets to the ANDROID banner but fails because /data is somehow empty | 20:26 |
| natemcnutty | stinebd: simple hex edit fix | 20:26 |
| stinebd | well | 20:27 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 20:27 |
| stinebd | i build my own nbh | 20:27 |
| siulmagic | thedeadcpu you there? | 20:27 |
| stinebd | so i don't need hexedits | 20:27 |
| stinebd | unless i'm hexediting spl or something :P | 20:27 |
| arrrghhh | natemcnutty, yea i can build my own nbh too. just not sure what to change exactly... | 20:27 |
| natemcnutty | whatever partition table you use, you'll have to change it | 20:27 |
| stinebd | tinboot2.S | 20:27 |
| natemcnutty | yeah, but are you using the rhod_layout or os.nb.payload? | 20:27 |
| natemcnutty | you have to change the partition table for the 4th partition | 20:28 |
| stinebd | right | 20:28 |
| stinebd | to what? | 20:28 |
| natemcnutty | depends on which partition table you are using, just a sec | 20:29 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:29 |
| stinebd | mtdparts=msm_nand:0x20000000@0x0(nand),0x01000000@0x04000000(root),0x08000000@0x05000000(system),0x13000000@0x0D000000(userdata) | 20:30 |
| natemcnutty | 01 00 20 3F 01 00 02 00 00 00 3E 00 00 00 00 00 01 01 23 3F 01 1B 40 00 00 00 80 05 00 00 00 00 01 17 25 3F 01 17 C0 05 00 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 01 18 04 3F 01 7C 00 06 00 00 40 00 00 00 55 AA | 20:31 |
| natemcnutty | damn, that didn't work | 20:31 |
| stinebd | don't worry | 20:31 |
| stinebd | i speak hex fluently | 20:31 |
| arrrghhh | alright mr. gates. settle down. | 20:32 |
| natemcnutty | http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/tp2-android-development/134598-nand-boot-testing-01-07-panel-power-off-fixes-135.html#post2060466 | 20:32 |
| natemcnutty | at the end | 20:32 |
| stinebd | he conjectured that my mother was a prostitute | 20:32 |
| stinebd | fatfs? | 20:32 |
| oddz | O__O | 20:33 |
| arrrghhh | i think i'll just wait until you post an nbh :P | 20:33 |
| arrrghhh | a nbh? | 20:33 |
| arrrghhh | both sound awkward. | 20:33 |
| * oddz waits also | 20:33 | |
| natemcnutty | lol | 20:33 |
| natemcnutty | you aren't using it | 20:34 |
| natemcnutty | it's there for the SPL to be happy | 20:34 |
| natemcnutty | tinboot starts at 64 MB | 20:34 |
| arrrghhh | that 64mb, what is that reserved for? | 20:34 |
| stinebd | naughty folder | 20:34 |
| arrrghhh | it seems to just be some mysterious space we need because... bad things happen if we use it lol | 20:34 |
| natemcnutty | lol | 20:34 |
| arrrghhh | seriously | 20:34 |
| natemcnutty | I think Wozzer started it that far in just so it wouldn't overwrite tinboot code | 20:35 |
| stinebd | a safety buffer? | 20:35 |
| natemcnutty | That's what I'm thinking he did it for | 20:35 |
| natemcnutty | not really sure though | 20:35 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 20:36 |
| arrrghhh | ah well | 20:36 |
| natemcnutty | in any case, what I did was hex edit the NBH making all sorts of changes to the partition table starting from a working NBH | 20:36 |
| arrrghhh | so long as it works, doesn't really matter. oh, and that we have enough room :P | 20:36 |
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| natemcnutty | and isolated it down to the fatfs as being the cause | 20:36 |
| arrrghhh | damn guy. | 20:36 |
| arrrghhh | you're a madman. | 20:36 |
| natemcnutty | I'll be testing it as 16 MB next and once we get it down to the minimum size, we can adjust tinboot | 20:36 |
| natemcnutty | don't think I have to use my modified busybox either :) | 20:37 |
| arrrghhh | schweet | 20:37 |
| arrrghhh | although you already modified it right? heh | 20:37 |
| stinebd | i have to type all these numbers in by hand? | 20:37 |
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| natemcnutty | so, I compiled a smaller busybox because we thought we were running out of space, but I figured out that wasn't the problem | 20:39 |
| stinebd | so you're saying we can make a bigger busybox? | 20:39 |
| natemcnutty | and stinebd, I'm working on a rhod_layout that gets the correct values once we are done cat'ing stuff into it and all that | 20:40 |
| natemcnutty | and yes, I think we can go a little bigger on busybox if we really needed to | 20:40 |
| stinebd | WE HAVE CAMERA | 20:40 |
| natemcnutty | lol | 20:40 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 20:41 |
| arrrghhh | helps when you unzip :P | 20:41 |
| stinebd | but no video | 20:41 |
| natemcnutty | I'm also testing my theory that we might be able to flash without wiping system and data | 20:41 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, there's like 15 libs | 20:49 |
| arrrghhh | did you get them all? | 20:49 |
| stinebd | wut | 20:49 |
| stinebd | he sent me a zip, with two versions of one binary library and the rest are source changes | 20:50 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 20:50 |
| arrrghhh | well how many files do you have to touch? | 20:51 |
| stinebd | uh | 20:51 |
| stinebd | don't know | 20:52 |
| arrrghhh | well | 20:52 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not really sure how to check then to see if you have all the files... | 20:52 |
| stinebd | bionic and libcamera2 were both changed | 20:52 |
| stinebd | you mean for video? | 20:52 |
| stinebd | is that what you're trying to help with? | 20:52 |
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| stinebd | because i've already got an idea for that | 20:53 |
| stinebd | camera itself is rockin | 20:53 |
| stinebd | oh yeah | 20:54 |
| stinebd | i need stuff from qaep | 20:54 |
| stinebd | as expected | 20:54 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 20:54 |
| arrrghhh | i was trying to help yes. failing horribly tho :P | 20:54 |
| stinebd | he sent me the tree which he used for froyo | 20:55 |
| stinebd | but i don't think i'm going to merge that | 20:55 |
| natemcnutty | Awesome, 8 MB works | 20:55 |
| stinebd | i'll just clone codeaurora's | 20:55 |
| natemcnutty | trying 4 MB now | 20:55 |
| stinebd | which he'll probably like better anyway | 20:55 |
| stinebd | since we get proper git history and all that | 20:55 |
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| manekineko | is there way to get a continuous view of kernel dmesg from adb the way it does for logcat? | 21:00 |
| arrrghhh | watch maybe? | 21:00 |
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| arrrghhh | not exactly as elegant heh | 21:00 |
| manekineko | hmm won't that dump the whole dmesg each time it does it? | 21:01 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 21:01 |
| manekineko | heh | 21:01 |
| arrrghhh | which is why it's not as elegant :P | 21:01 |
| stinebd | tail -f /proc/kmsg? | 21:02 |
| stinebd | nope | 21:02 |
| manekineko | do you guys know if there is any other open source project similar to this porting Android to phones that might have source code for their RIL? | 21:04 |
| manekineko | particularly CDMA phones | 21:04 |
| natemcnutty | OK arrrghhh , I just posted the NBH. I'll have to build a new NBH to get the modules. I forgot to change the script on my VM to not do the tar modules.tgz . and use the folder structure instead | 21:05 |
| natemcnutty | http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=2060498#post2060508 | 21:05 |
| arrrghhh | cool | 21:05 |
| natemcnutty | gotta head out. my wife and I are taking my parents to dinner tonight. It's my mom's birthday ;) | 21:05 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 21:05 |
| arrrghhh | have fun! | 21:05 |
| natemcnutty | should be fun. Hopefully I have enough tools there for ACL to get started with | 21:06 |
| arrrghhh | heh, i'm sure. | 21:06 |
| arrrghhh | thanks again man | 21:06 |
| massstash | werd, thanks mcnut | 21:06 |
| natemcnutty | yup, and I'm stoked to hear stinebd got a TP2 | 21:06 |
| arrrghhh | he has two lol | 21:07 |
| natemcnutty | meant GSM | 21:07 |
| natemcnutty | that he's doing nand on | 21:07 |
| arrrghhh | indeed. | 21:07 |
| natemcnutty | feel bad for those guys at XDA that haven't been able to enjoy this yet :) | 21:07 |
| arrrghhh | heh, not really a wide public release as of yet i'd say :P | 21:07 |
| arrrghhh | alright. brick time. | 21:09 |
| oddz | :O | 21:10 |
| natemcnutty | arrrghhh: I've tried | 21:10 |
| natemcnutty | I'm really wondering if it is possible when using 0x400 for yang | 21:10 |
| arrrghhh | nate | 21:10 |
| arrrghhh | you are | 21:10 |
| natemcnutty | since you can't write to the IPL, SPL, or Radio regions | 21:11 |
| arrrghhh | A GENIUS | 21:11 |
| natemcnutty | :) | 21:11 |
| natemcnutty | I get service, but no data | 21:11 |
| natemcnutty | can text and call | 21:11 |
| jonpry | manekineko, no RIL source out there, we are still using some hackish thing made for vogue | 21:11 |
| arrrghhh | natemcnutty, yea that's status quo. | 21:11 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: rhod400 booting? | 21:11 |
| manekineko | jonpry, thanks | 21:12 |
| jonpry | i think the plan is to use a real htc ril | 21:12 |
| jonpry | and wrap it up or something | 21:12 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, yup. i got to the tinboot menu, perhaps holding volup was a bad idea. | 21:12 |
| stinebd | link me nbh? | 21:12 |
| oddz | nice | 21:12 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=2060498#post2060508 | 21:13 |
| arrrghhh | hadn't even scrolled off the page stinebd lol | 21:13 |
| stinebd | ugh ppcgeeks again | 21:13 |
| manekineko | hmm so there's no source of anything you can think of that would have an implementation of the CDMA network commands I could take a look at | 21:13 |
| arrrghhh | that's where all the magic happens friend! | 21:13 |
| natemcnutty | lol, poor stinebd | 21:13 |
| arrrghhh | natemcnutty, do i not hold volup on boot? | 21:13 |
| natemcnutty | it's cause that's where us CDMA guys live | 21:13 |
| arrrghhh | i'm at a tinboot menu, but i can't seem to do anything. | 21:13 |
| natemcnutty | ah, tap the bottom left corner and bottom right corner to use the menu | 21:14 |
| natemcnutty | LMiller had to explain it to me | 21:14 |
| natemcnutty | and I like ppcgeek's mobile site way better than xda | 21:14 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:14 |
| natemcnutty | anyway, gotta run, gonna be late | 21:14 |
| arrrghhh | np dude | 21:14 |
| stinebd | xda has an app | 21:14 |
| arrrghhh | shit what's select? | 21:14 |
| stinebd | who needs sites | 21:14 |
| natemcnutty | hit the middle of the screen for select | 21:14 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 21:14 |
| arrrghhh | got it. | 21:14 |
| arrrghhh | thx dude, have a good one! | 21:14 |
| stinebd | night natemcnutty | 21:15 |
| arrrghhh | can i boot w/o the modules? | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | doesn't seem like it wants to heh | 21:18 |
| manekineko | hmm MrPippy actually executed this HTC_BSINFO command before and got coordinates out of it | 21:18 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko, oO? | 21:18 |
| manekineko | is there a direct interface to the radio somewhere? how did he execute those commands? | 21:18 |
| stinebd | the dev node | 21:18 |
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| stinebd | /dev/smd0 | 21:18 |
| manekineko | interesting thanks | 21:18 |
| stinebd | you're welcome | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | massstash, did you flash this madness yet? | 21:20 |
| oddz | so close yet so far | 21:22 |
| arrrghhh | workin for me | 21:22 |
| arrrghhh | bootani now :D | 21:22 |
| oddz | :o | 21:23 |
| oddz | without the modules? | 21:23 |
| arrrghhh | yea who needs wifi | 21:23 |
| arrrghhh | especially when data doesn't work | 21:23 |
| arrrghhh | oh wait... | 21:23 |
| arrrghhh | shit. | 21:23 |
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| arrrghhh | ah well, at least it works. | 21:23 |
| oddz | it didnt boot? | 21:23 |
| rpierce99 | can't you put modules in with androidupdate? | 21:23 |
| arrrghhh | yea but that would take work | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | oddz, wha? i said it does work. | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | shit. just vibed hard and shut off... | 21:24 |
| stinebd | most advanced personal massager ever | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:25 |
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| arrrghhh | it wasn't very pleasurable if i'm honest... | 21:25 |
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| arrrghhh | where's L_miller to wrap this all up in a neat little package. | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | win. i'm running android natively. | 21:26 |
| stinebd | does camera work? | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | lol ass | 21:27 |
| stinebd | legit question | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | how would it? | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | acl hasn't finished pushing the code to his tree | 21:27 |
| stinebd | insane luck! | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | and it's not in the system image | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | yea i don't have that. | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | the apn wasn't selected | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | i'm gonna lol if that fixex data | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | damn. | 21:29 |
| arrrghhh | LOL | 21:30 |
| arrrghhh | it has the old button layout | 21:30 |
| arrrghhh | where power=home and end=power | 21:30 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. i wonder why data wouldn't be workin | 21:31 |
| manekineko | yay I love that one | 21:31 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 21:31 |
| massstash | arrrghhh, at work using phone as modem so...... off at 9:30 tho let cha kno, peace | 21:31 |
| arrrghhh | hitting end i keep f-ing up. | 21:31 |
| arrrghhh | massstash, no worries. | 21:31 |
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| arrrghhh | i kept hitting power frantically wondering why it wouldn't shut off | 21:32 |
| arrrghhh | fail. | 21:32 |
| D3tul3 | arrrghhh any notable difference in performance | 21:32 |
| arrrghhh | lolwut | 21:32 |
| arrrghhh | not you | 21:32 |
| arrrghhh | not that guy! | 21:32 |
| D3tul3 | ? | 21:33 |
| arrrghhh | y'know. that guy that thinks NAND is going to magically solve all our problems | 21:33 |
| arrrghhh | adobe flash will just work perfectly | 21:33 |
| D3tul3 | not sure buddy you got me mistaken for someone else | 21:33 |
| arrrghhh | angry birds will run better than it does on nexus 1's | 21:33 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:33 |
| arrrghhh | oh no. i don't. | 21:33 |
| D3tul3 | you and i have never spoken before | 21:33 |
| arrrghhh | yea, but you're still 'that guy' | 21:34 |
| arrrghhh | battery is going to last for weeks on end | 21:34 |
| arrrghhh | all from going to NAND, right? | 21:34 |
| D3tul3 | wow | 21:34 |
| arrrghhh | no, it's not any faster. | 21:34 |
| arrrghhh | if anything it might be a little slower, but this is the "first boot" | 21:34 |
| manekineko | really? that's a little surprising | 21:35 |
| arrrghhh | can't really test much w/o data | 21:35 |
| arrrghhh | or wifi. d'ho. | 21:35 |
| arrrghhh | er | 21:35 |
| arrrghhh | d'oh | 21:35 |
| manekineko | you should be able to pull data simultaneously to anything on the SD card and NAND | 21:35 |
| manekineko | but I guess that's not most operations | 21:35 |
| manekineko | I'm surprised it'd be slower | 21:35 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 21:35 |
| arrrghhh | just my perception at the moment. | 21:36 |
| stinebd | he's used to gingerbread | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:36 |
| stinebd | superfast | 21:36 |
| manekineko | whatever, you're probably playing Angry Birds at 60fps | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | it's getting quicker | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | manekineko, maybe i am... | 21:36 |
| manekineko | hoarding it all to yourself | 21:36 |
| stinebd | 120fps or death | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | i really secretly love angry birds and playing it all the time | 21:36 |
| manekineko | lol | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | right? | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | no. | 21:36 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:36 |
| manekineko | it's always the people who are the biggest haters.... | 21:36 |
| stinebd | i got glxgears running at 13000 fps | 21:37 |
| stinebd | beat that | 21:37 |
| manekineko | arrrghhh is a closeted angry birds lover | 21:37 |
| arrrghhh | android is... pretty shitty without any sort of internet cxn. | 21:37 |
| D3tul3 | thanks for answering my question, i didn't think it was that outlandish to think that nand vs storage card might imply a difference in performance, but hell what do i know | 21:37 |
| arrrghhh | D3tul3, there's way too many people that jump on that bandwagon | 21:37 |
| arrrghhh | how NAND will magically make everything faster, better, and work. | 21:37 |
| arrrghhh | it won't really. we'll save some power from not having the SD on all the time | 21:38 |
| arrrghhh | and we'll be able to do mass storage | 21:38 |
| arrrghhh | and now when the kernel panics it reboots to Android lol | 21:38 |
| manekineko | save all those bizarro SD card errors | 21:38 |
| D3tul3 | the sd errors | 21:38 |
| D3tul3 | that's the boon | 21:38 |
| D3tul3 | no more corrupt data.img shit | 21:38 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 21:38 |
| arrrghhh | not sure if we're out of the woods on corrupt data yet | 21:38 |
| arrrghhh | but in theory that should settle out in time. | 21:38 |
| arrrghhh | lots of work to do still on NAND, but booting is a fairly big hurdle :D | 21:39 |
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| arrrghhh | hrm. bitch doesn't want to sleep. | 21:40 |
| manekineko | if you hit Ctrl-C on the Android terminal over adb, are you just hosed? or is there a way to get it responsive again | 21:40 |
| arrrghhh | hosed? | 21:40 |
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| arrrghhh | you can't reconnect? | 21:40 |
| manekineko | well, I can reconnect, sure | 21:40 |
| manekineko | but my terminal session is just dead then and I need to close it and reopen it | 21:40 |
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| manekineko | how do you stop command line processes on adb terminal? | 21:41 |
| arrrghhh | depends on the process | 21:41 |
| manekineko | let's say ls | 21:42 |
| manekineko | how do you stop it from listing? | 21:42 |
| D3tul3 | from xda : It's possible to interrupt a process during and ADB session without killing ADB under Windows cmd.exe by using Ctrl-] (control bracket) followed by Enter. | 21:42 |
| D3tul3 | that might be off | 21:43 |
| manekineko | doesn't seem to work for me | 21:43 |
| manekineko | wait under Windows cmd.exe | 21:43 |
| stinebd | i've got a solution but it's fairly lengthy | 21:43 |
| stinebd | step 1: download an ubuntu install cd in the flavor of your choice | 21:44 |
| arrrghhh | fawk | 21:44 |
| arrrghhh | no data really sucks donkey balls. | 21:44 |
| stinebd | quit whining | 21:44 |
| arrrghhh | now i know how jesusfreak feels | 21:44 |
| arrrghhh | LOL | 21:44 |
| arrrghhh | but... data | 21:45 |
| stinebd | i've been considering this whole jesus dilemma | 21:45 |
| stinebd | if he really does return from the dead, what will he think of us all for having a crosses everywhere? | 21:45 |
| stinebd | we're doomed | 21:45 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:46 |
| stinebd | he's gonna go zombie apeshit on us | 21:46 |
| arrrghhh | LMAO | 21:46 |
| arrrghhh | damnit why isn't jesusfreak here to witness this blasphemy | 21:46 |
| stinebd | i looked to make sure he wasn't here before saying that | 21:46 |
| arrrghhh | aw | 21:46 |
| arrrghhh | dude's never here of late | 21:47 |
| arrrghhh | been busy with school | 21:47 |
| stinebd | so anyway data | 21:47 |
| arrrghhh | holyfuck wifi works. | 21:47 |
| stinebd | try it with htc's ril and the wrapper | 21:47 |
| arrrghhh | yea? | 21:47 |
| stinebd | oh wait cdma | 21:47 |
| stinebd | hmm | 21:47 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 21:47 |
| stinebd | that nbh you're using is for cdma? | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | alright goin to the neighbors | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | should be for any RHOD afaik stinebd | 21:48 |
| stinebd | yeah but the cmdline has to specify force_cdma=1 for you | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | bleh there's probably a cmdline | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | i was just thinking that. | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | so yea, cdma. | 21:48 |
| stinebd | go to the add apn screen | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | i tried that | 21:48 |
| stinebd | what are the numbers? | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | there's an APN there that isn't selected | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | so i selected it | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | what mmc and mnc? | 21:49 |
| stinebd | yeah | 21:49 |
| stinebd | mcc | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | er | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | mcc | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | mcc 310/mnc 995 | 21:49 |
| stinebd | god i forget how this ril works again | 21:49 |
| stinebd | are those unset without forcing cdma? | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | not sure | 21:50 |
| arrrghhh | alright. bbl. | 21:51 |
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| manekineko | stinebd, so how would I use this device node to send and receive modem commands directly? | 21:51 |
| stinebd | cat | 21:51 |
| manekineko | just send the command straight? | 21:52 |
| manekineko | anything I should be careful about before sending commands willy nilly? | 21:52 |
| stinebd | yeah | 21:53 |
| stinebd | if you screw up it'll probably just hang | 21:53 |
| stinebd | at which point you need to reboot | 21:53 |
| manekineko | service providers aren't liable to get angry at me if I send malformed messages to the tower are they? | 21:53 |
| stinebd | nah | 21:53 |
| manekineko | cool | 21:53 |
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| D3tul3 | alright team i have a question, is there a version of mtty for linux? | 21:53 |
| manekineko | hmm no idea on that here | 21:55 |
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| stinebd | minicom | 21:55 |
| D3tul3 | thanks....not a lot of how-to-s for that one | 22:00 |
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| manekineko | hmm everything I enter into the cat seems to just be being mirrored back | 22:01 |
| manekineko | do I have to do something to read the output? | 22:01 |
| manekineko | n/m got it working | 22:12 |
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| manekineko | hmm got it spitting out some coordinates, but it's about 10 miles off | 22:24 |
| manekineko | wonder if there's more to this tower location calculation than just asking | 22:24 |
| rpierce99 | manekineko: if you tell me what to do i can tell you if I get the same results on mine, in case it's a fluke or something | 22:26 |
| manekineko | sure | 22:26 |
| manekineko | connect it up on adb | 22:26 |
| manekineko | there may be a better way to do it, but this is how I'm doing it | 22:26 |
| manekineko | open up two terminal windows | 22:26 |
| manekineko | in the first window enter: | 22:26 |
| manekineko | stop ril-daemon | 22:26 |
| manekineko | cat/dev/smd0 & | 22:27 |
| manekineko | in the second window enter: | 22:27 |
| manekineko | echo -e 'AT+HTC_BSINFO?\r" > /dev/smd0 | 22:27 |
| manekineko | whoops, mismatched quotations | 22:27 |
| manekineko | echo -e "AT+HTC_BSINFO?\r" > /dev/smd0 | 22:27 |
| manekineko | the output will come out on the top window | 22:27 |
| manekineko | I'm not really sure why the two window thing is necessary, but even with the ampersand, after I launch cat, somehow my command line gets taken over and that one isn't usable anymore | 22:28 |
| manekineko | it's going to spit out a result that looks like: | 22:29 |
| manekineko | "+HTC_BSINFO: number, number, number, latittude, longitude, number, timestamp | 22:29 |
| rpierce99 | haha something i did locked it up good | 22:30 |
| manekineko | hmm that's not good | 22:30 |
| manekineko | mine is fully responsive still | 22:30 |
| rpierce99 | i'm sure i did something wrong | 22:31 |
| manekineko | interestingly, I'm on GB, and I can see all those erroneous end calls piling up even though I'm not in a call | 22:31 |
| rpierce99 | as soon as I cat the phone freezes, 2nd window is useless | 22:35 |
| rpierce99 | i get an output of HTC_CSQ: 6,5 | 22:35 |
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| manekineko | huh | 22:36 |
| manekineko | wait a sec | 22:36 |
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| manekineko | were you copying and pasting? I have a typo up there too | 22:36 |
| manekineko | cat /dev/smd0 & | 22:36 |
| rpierce99 | yeah i added the space | 22:37 |
| manekineko | hmm | 22:37 |
| manekineko | yeah, wouldn't make sense that would crash the phone without the space anyway | 22:37 |
| manekineko | that's really strange | 22:37 |
| manekineko | you're on a CDMA rhod? | 22:37 |
| rpierce99 | yep | 22:37 |
| manekineko | it must be working too, because it spits something out before it dies | 22:38 |
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| rpierce99_ | freaking wireless, ugh | 22:40 |
| mestigoth | Q: Are there ext2 ports of xandroid? | 22:40 |
| manekineko | mestigoth, couldn't you just extract it all into the ext2 partition? | 22:40 |
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| rpierce99 | grrrrr | 22:41 |
| mestigoth | manekineko, yes that's no problem, only init scripts seem to fail | 22:41 |
| manekineko | hmm never tried before, but I do recall seeing people do it before, sorry I'm not able to be more of a help | 22:42 |
| manekineko | is there not one up on Nekopeek? | 22:42 |
| manekineko | shoot Neopeek | 22:42 |
| rpierce99 | manekineko: I have a feeling the stop isn't not working, no matter what I send to stop I don't get any error messages | 22:42 |
| manekineko | hmmm | 22:43 |
| rpierce99 | isn't not, haha, I mean is not | 22:43 |
| mestigoth | hmm, will try that. Neopeek rootfs with xandroid system files. | 22:43 |
| manekineko | hmm i thought they might have a port of the whole package onto ext2 | 22:43 |
| manekineko | not sure though | 22:43 |
| mestigoth | will search thanks !! | 22:45 |
| rpierce99 | is there a way to tell if ril-daemon is running or not | 22:45 |
| manekineko | it's strange, I think even before I started stopping the ril-daemon, it wasn't crashing my phone | 22:45 |
| manekineko | when I was just calling cat on /dev/smd0 | 22:45 |
| rpierce99 | hmmm yeah something else is going on, i didn't cat this time and my phone just hard locked again | 22:46 |
| manekineko | i just started my ril-daemon again | 22:47 |
| manekineko | and it shows u p under ps as /system/bin/rild -l /lib/froyo/libhtcgeneric-ril.so | 22:47 |
| manekineko | and my commands seem to be passing through fine still | 22:48 |
| manekineko | maybe stopping the ril-daemon was unnecessary | 22:48 |
| manekineko | just avoids clogging up the output of cat | 22:48 |
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| manekineko | I just did it because some forum posting I found did it | 22:49 |
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| mestigoth | manekineko, xdandroid boots up with neopeeks ext2 rootfs and xdandroid system files. Anxious to see how far it will go :) | 22:56 |
| manekineko | cool, don't like the system.ext2 style? | 23:00 |
| mestigoth | not familiar with that | 23:01 |
| manekineko | just download FRX04 and run | 23:01 |
| manekineko | no partitioning of SD cards | 23:01 |
| rpierce99 | manekineko: so i got a ton of output from the cat that time, but after about 10 seconds the adb died and my phone froze. | 23:02 |
| rpierce99 | no chance to echo | 23:03 |
| manekineko | strange, I assume that normally adb works okay for you? | 23:03 |
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| rpierce99 | yep | 23:03 |
| manekineko | did you stop the ril-daemon that time? | 23:03 |
| rpierce99 | yep | 23:03 |
| rpierce99 | and verified it was gone with ps | 23:03 |
| manekineko | hmm ok, well I'm pretty much at a loss for why this would be crashing your phone and not mine | 23:04 |
| manekineko | I guess I'll just poke around with it a bit more here | 23:04 |
| manekineko | and see if I can get anywhere on how the code is supposed to fit in | 23:04 |
| manekineko | if I can't figure that out, it's all moot anyway | 23:04 |
| manekineko | 10 miles off isn't bad, relatively haha | 23:05 |
| rpierce99 | yeah same here | 23:05 |
| rpierce99 | is that maybe a tower location? | 23:05 |
| manekineko | yeah, I think that's what the spec I read implied | 23:05 |
| manekineko | but it's still surprising to me the tower would be so far from me | 23:05 |
| manekineko | and I don't really have any idea yet how it improves upon the tower location to rececive actual location | 23:06 |
| manekineko | I do recall with real working devices, it sometimes shows a highly accurate reading, and sometimes a highly inaccurate reading from tower assisted GPS | 23:06 |
| manekineko | and I always figured there was some triangulation involved | 23:06 |
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| arrrghhh | manekineko: read logs. works for me. | 23:10 |
| arrrghhh | doesn't look like lat/long lol wtf | 23:10 |
| manekineko | really? what're you seeing? | 23:10 |
| manekineko | not +- 1 mil or so? | 23:10 |
| arrrghhh | oh they are valid coords | 23:11 |
| arrrghhh | damn | 23:11 |
| manekineko | I think those are lat/long numbers in seconds | 23:11 |
| arrrghhh | sooo | 23:11 |
| arrrghhh | it's within a few miles | 23:11 |
| manekineko | you can stick them in Google Maps | 23:11 |
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| arrrghhh | let me see | 23:11 |
| manekineko | nice | 23:11 |
| arrrghhh | i did :P | 23:11 |
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| manekineko | so the data is there | 23:11 |
| arrrghhh | damnit isn't there some ruler thingy on google maps | 23:11 |
| rpierce99 | probably in labs | 23:11 |
| manekineko | maybe there's better data somewhere, like I was saying to rpierce99, I don't really know how it gets from the base station location | 23:11 |
| manekineko | to your location | 23:11 |
| manekineko | but even 10 miles is a big improvement if we can shoehorn it in | 23:12 |
| arrrghhh | yea that would be a pretty big circle | 23:12 |
| arrrghhh | if you think about it lol | 23:12 |
| manekineko | heh 10 mile radius | 23:12 |
| arrrghhh | what are all the numbers before it | 23:12 |
| manekineko | is a lot better than somewhere in the Atlantic | 23:12 |
| manekineko | lemme see | 23:12 |
| arrrghhh | well it's "locking" on 0,0 | 23:12 |
| arrrghhh | the gps says all 0's lol | 23:13 |
| arrrghhh | and google maps says... uh... ok! | 23:13 |
| manekineko | digit 0 is System ID of CDMA | 23:13 |
| manekineko | digit 1 is Network ID | 23:13 |
| manekineko | digit 2 is Base Station ID | 23:13 |
| arrrghhh | 3&4? | 23:13 |
| arrrghhh | i'm really curious about 4. | 23:13 |
| arrrghhh | wtf is 4?!?! | 23:13 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 23:14 |
| manekineko | uhh? 3 is lat, 4 is long | 23:14 |
| arrrghhh | wat | 23:14 |
| arrrghhh | the last two numbers you said | 23:14 |
| arrrghhh | that would be 5&6 for me | 23:14 |
| arrrghhh | then a timestamp in quotes. | 23:14 |
| manekineko | are you getting your output in the form of +HTC_BSINFO: 0, 1, 2, +lat, -long, 5, timestamp? | 23:15 |
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| arrrghhh | hrm | 23:15 |
| arrrghhh | no | 23:15 |
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| manekineko | or are you getting REGISTRATION_STATE | 23:15 |
| rpierce99 | arrrghhh: are you on nand? | 23:16 |
| arrrghhh | +HTC_BSINFO: 0,1,2,3,lat,long,timestamp | 23:16 |
| arrrghhh | rpierce99: maybe... | 23:16 |
| manekineko | wtf why is this so variable | 23:16 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 23:16 |
| manekineko | you don't even have the same number of digits as me? | 23:16 |
| rpierce99 | well i'm just speculating here but NAND data doesn't work, therefore weird RIL output may be related :) | 23:16 |
| manekineko | wait, same number of digits | 23:16 |
| arrrghhh | stfu | 23:16 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 23:16 |
| arrrghhh | well there's a 4 digit number | 23:16 |
| arrrghhh | then a 2 digit | 23:17 |
| arrrghhh | then a 3 digit | 23:17 |
| arrrghhh | then a giant 6 digit number with a + | 23:17 |
| arrrghhh | then the lat, giant negative number and the long small negative number.... | 23:17 |
| manekineko | hmm yeah same format then | 23:17 |
| arrrghhh | followed by a timestamp (in UTC it appears) in quotes. | 23:17 |
| manekineko | except we seem to have a disagreement on which is long | 23:17 |
| manekineko | haha | 23:17 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps. | 23:17 |
| manekineko | this can't possibly be a coincidence can it, that both of us got within a few miles of us? | 23:18 |
| arrrghhh | no | 23:18 |
| arrrghhh | wouldn't think so | 23:18 |
| arrrghhh | i plugged in the numbers and a quiznos popped up | 23:18 |
| arrrghhh | maybe that's a sign too. | 23:18 |
| manekineko | lol | 23:19 |
| oddz | lol | 23:20 |
| arrrghhh | weird | 23:21 |
| arrrghhh | i must find that thread post | 23:21 |
| manekineko | how many digits long are your lat/long? | 23:21 |
| manekineko | this post? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=606760&page=80 | 23:21 |
| manekineko | jnadke's format is the same as mine | 23:21 |
| manekineko | heh are you sure you're not miscounting digits? | 23:22 |
| arrrghhh | ooks like the same format | 23:22 |
| manekineko | the small negative number can't possibly be my long.... | 23:22 |
| arrrghhh | which ones are the lat/long in his example? lol | 23:22 |
| manekineko | he is +606881, -1264782 | 23:22 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 23:22 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i'm entering them wrong in google masp | 23:23 |
| manekineko | which places him in the UK | 23:23 |
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| jonpry | those are international cdma tower location units | 23:23 |
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| arrrghhh | i can't enter mine into google maps... | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | the other numbers worked... | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | wtf | 23:24 |
| manekineko | hm? | 23:25 |
| arrrghhh | google maps just says "we could not understand the location" | 23:25 |
| arrrghhh | oh that last number is rssi huh | 23:25 |
| arrrghhh | or db whatever they measure signal strength in. | 23:26 |
| manekineko | hmm, not sure it is, it's in the same range | 23:26 |
| manekineko | but mine seems steady | 23:26 |
| arrrghhh | his coords i can put in and they work | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | obviously | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | but my coords... don't work. | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | i've pulled several | 23:27 |
| manekineko | wait maybe not | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | and they do change | 23:27 |
| manekineko | mine just changed | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:27 |
| manekineko | really? you have two integers within +- 1mil right? | 23:28 |
| manekineko | a little over a mil actually | 23:28 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 23:29 |
| arrrghhh | first number is just over 500,000 and positive, second is negative and like 1.5mil | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | last numer changes too | 23:30 |
| manekineko | yeah, I'm also in the US, so my numbers are fairly simimlar | 23:30 |
| manekineko | hmm I wonder what format these are in | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | degrees minutes seconds | 23:31 |
| manekineko | Base Station longitude is a decimal number as specified in 3GPP2 C.S0005-A v6.0. It is represented in units of 0.25 seconds and ranges from -2592000 to 2592000, both values inclusive (corresponding to a range of -180° to +180°). | 23:32 |
| arrrghhh | so... what? | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:34 |
| manekineko | yup, their story checks out | 23:34 |
| manekineko | take the numbers and divide by 14,400 to get your degrees | 23:35 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:35 |
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| manekineko | oh look, jonpry responded above and told us this, but somehow I missed it haha | 23:35 |
| manekineko | do you know if there is anyone who knows the RIL at all, such that I could ask them at least general questions? | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | holy crap | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | that's way closer | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | phh | 23:36 |
| manekineko | how close are you? | 23:36 |
| manekineko | hmm, he's not around much right | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | really freakin close | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | compared | 23:37 |
| manekineko | does he respond to email or is he out of this whole game? | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | zomg | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | i can't believe i didn't pursue this more. | 23:37 |
| manekineko | the code is pretty different than I'd expect if you want to take a look | 23:37 |
| manekineko | I'm looking at it here: | 23:37 |
| manekineko | http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/android-htc-ril/blobs/diamond/htcgeneric-ril.c | 23:37 |
| manekineko | for some reason our response int is only a 4 element array | 23:38 |
| manekineko | whereas according to this: | 23:38 |
| manekineko | http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/hardware/ril.git;a=blob;f=include/telephony/ril.h;h=99fd355db1b41ce84b4a296465cfcdda364fbc65;hb=HEAD#l1012 | 23:38 |
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| manekineko | I'd expect it to be 13 element | 23:38 |
| manekineko | and I was kinda hoping this would be easy and I'd just have to populate that array.... | 23:38 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 23:39 |
| arrrghhh | maybe the array is for gsm? | 23:40 |
| manekineko | well even so, we're using a 4 element array for both | 23:40 |
| manekineko | and just switching on how to handle inside of requestRegistrationState | 23:40 |
| manekineko | based on whether isgsm | 23:40 |
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| jonpry | manekineko, that sounds right | 23:43 |
| jonpry | need 13 elements for cdma position | 23:43 |
| jonpry | er 14 | 23:43 |
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| manekineko | hmm, but the same response char** is used for gsm | 23:49 |
| manekineko | and it's only initialized with 4 elements | 23:49 |
| manekineko | according to this header file: http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/hardware/ril.git;a=blob;f=include/telephony/ril.h;h=99fd355db1b41ce84b4a296465cfcdda364fbc65;hb=HEAD#l1012 | 23:49 |
| jonpry | well there seems to be some string things going on | 23:50 |
| manekineko | it seems like oh wait no | 23:50 |
| manekineko | you're right | 23:50 |
| manekineko | the additional digits are only used for CDMA | 23:50 |
| manekineko | so we just dropped them in our implementation | 23:50 |
| manekineko | things are starting to make a lot more sense | 23:50 |
| jonpry | yeah, and its not like an undersized array | 23:50 |
| jonpry | cause it is all formatted into a string | 23:50 |
| jonpry | like %x,%x,%x,%x | 23:51 |
| manekineko | hmm maybe this will be a simple patch after all | 23:51 |
| arrrghhh | zomg | 23:51 |
| arrrghhh | i'm so excited | 23:51 |
| arrrghhh | nand and netloc | 23:51 |
| arrrghhh | in one day | 23:51 |
| manekineko | I am pretty surprised though, that the current CDMA implementation is capable of detecting 3G/edge state at all | 23:52 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:52 |
| arrrghhh | if you look at radio logs | 23:52 |
| manekineko | if you look at requestRegistrationState, there is a gigantic branch under if(gsm) that handles setting up response | 23:52 |
| arrrghhh | there's a bunch of attempted gsm garbage this and that | 23:52 |
| manekineko | and there is one tiny bit under the else part marked //CDMA | 23:53 |
| manekineko | and it's blocked by an if test that strikes me as never true | 23:53 |
| manekineko | it's predicated on if the request is for RIL_REQUEST_GPRS_REGISTRATION_STATE | 23:53 |
| manekineko | but that doesn't make any sense, CDMA shouldn't be receiving GPRS registration states | 23:53 |
| manekineko | so I would have thought this CDMA implementation would fail to ever return anything in response | 23:53 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 23:54 |
| arrrghhh | magic | 23:54 |
| manekineko | heh well hopefully WisTilt2 can get this working without me having to figure this out | 23:54 |
| manekineko | I don't have any of the development env even set up here | 23:55 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:55 |
| arrrghhh | i do | 23:55 |
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| arrrghhh | but i don't think i could get this working. | 23:55 |
| manekineko | oh good, so you can test changes and compile and test for me haha | 23:55 |
| arrrghhh | at least not pretty enough to pass. | 23:55 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 23:55 |
| arrrghhh | i can | 23:55 |
| arrrghhh | if it means cdma netloc | 23:55 |
| arrrghhh | f-yes i can | 23:55 |
| arrrghhh | WisTilt2 is just smashing bugs as well. | 23:56 |
| arrrghhh | seems like he's fixing the wake issues :D | 23:56 |
| manekineko | hmmmmm I actually wonder if the rest of the project is set up to read these values | 23:56 |
| manekineko | if they are only returning a truncated array formatted as a string | 23:56 |
| manekineko | I wonder if they have any of the code ready to read the non-truncated array | 23:57 |
| manekineko | but I would think that would be built-in | 23:57 |
| arrrghhh | he made the AUO panels work without having one | 23:57 |
| arrrghhh | lol i'll work with him and make this crap work :D | 23:58 |
| arrrghhh | blow it up! | 23:58 |
| arrrghhh | just need to freakin fix BT | 23:58 |
| arrrghhh | 3.5mm would be nice lol | 23:58 |
| arrrghhh | cam seems like it's almost mainline | 23:58 |
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