Friday, 2011-02-25

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dingbatwould improving xdandroid's graphics handling involve writing a display driver from scratch00:53
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dingbathow did this pan out, where a bounty for msm7200 drivers was offered? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=35198601:52
hycdisplay driver? what are you trying to accomplish?02:05
dingbatwas thinking of pursuing that to resolve the graphics issues xdandroid has for the msm7x chips02:14
dingbatseems like an uphill battle02:15
hycvery likely.02:15
hycthey're pretty outdated chips anyway, what do you really expect from them02:15
hycsmartphones today have 4x the RAM and 2-4x the CPU speed02:16
hycwhat graphics issues does xdandroid have?02:16
dingbata lot of tests fail when OpenGL 3D Showcase is used on an msm7x device running xdandroid02:18
hycdo they succeed on a G1?02:19
dingbatmsm7x devices that have a stock android setup pass those tests however02:20
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dingbatthat's based on http://pastebin.com/v4WbAsau02:22
dingbatmight not need a rewrite after all02:23
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manekinekodingbat, I don't think it's a driver issue02:24
manekinekoI think it must be something else02:25
manekinekoif you look at this thread02:25
manekinekohttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=89980102:25
manekinekothey recently stuck this opengles 1.1 driver on the Hero that they dug up somewhere02:25
manekinekoand using those driver binaries, all tests pass for them on the Hero apparently02:26
manekinekobut using those we still get force closes and unimplemented function errors02:26
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hycI'm running that opengles 1.1 library on my G1 now02:27
manekinekohow do those tests look on yours?02:27
hycstill got those unimplemented function errors on gemrb02:27
hycI'm just running thru the Showcase now on my G102:28
hycso far everything looks fine02:28
manekinekotry downloading OpenGl 3d Showcase02:28
manekinekotest 17 causes unimplemented function errors02:28
manekinekotest 18 causes a force close02:28
hycok, not there yet02:28
manekinekobut I got a reply from someone, last reply in that thread02:28
hycjust ran 1102:29
manekinekothat said ran the apk no errors02:29
manekinekothat was on a Hero it sounds like02:29
hyctest17 ran, not sure if it generated errors. will checl in a moment02:32
hyctest18 FC'd02:32
manekinekohmm sounds pretty similar02:32
manekinekowonder why it would work on the Hero02:32
manekinekowonder if that guy that replied to me in the thread was credible02:32
hyctest19 FC'd after I restarted02:33
hycmebbe they're RAM-dependent02:33
manekinekohmm does the Hero have more RAM than the G1?02:34
manekineko288MB RAM on Hero02:34
manekinekosame on TP202:34
hycyes G1 is only 192MB02:34
manekinekothere don't seem to be any significant differences with the TP2 and Hero02:37
manekinekohmm02:37
manekinekoHero is much lower resolution02:37
manekinekobut so is the G102:37
hycis it also 480x320?02:37
hycyeah02:37
manekinekoyeah02:37
manekinekowell, if this affects the G1 equally02:38
manekinekoI'm going to go ahead and say that the user that replied to me didn't know what they were talking about02:38
manekinekowonder where this driver came from originally anyway? it was pretty mysterious in that post02:41
dingbatmanekineko, did you try that ro.opengles.version=131072 bit?02:41
manekinekonope02:41
hycwhy would you even try?02:41
manekinekoonly bumped it up to 6553702:41
hycthe hardware doesn't support it02:41
manekinekowell, that guy that replied to me said it enabled 3D maps in GMaps for him02:42
manekinekodingbat you should try it and report back02:42
hyclogcat shows an illegal argument02:42
manekinekoon the force close?02:42
hycyeah02:42
manekinekoyeah, I saw that too02:42
manekinekomade me think it was a code error in our project02:42
hycand I have a lot of low memory messages in my log02:43
hyccould be both of those together on the G1 anyway02:43
dingbatwas pretty close to selling the touch pro02:44
hychmmm. says something about eglCreateContext(Native Method)02:45
hycI wonder if this is a framework bug02:46
hycI was running a frankenstein-type ROM before, mostly froyo with some gingerbread framework pieces02:46
hycnow I'm running stripped down froyo02:46
hycinterestingly, there is no unimplemnted function error message in my log02:47
hycso test 17 was fine02:47
manekinekohm interesting, so it is outside of the driver02:48
hycwell.... have you had a look at the EGL library code?02:48
manekinekonope, what's the deal?02:48
hycthere's a java wrapper around a C++ wrapper around two different shared libs02:48
hycthe C++ wrapper basically does dlopen/dlsym to find a requested EGL function02:49
hycand if it can't find it in libagl or libhgl.so then it prints that unimp message02:49
hycso there's enough moving parts in userland that it's hard to pin down exactly what implements what02:50
manekinekohow do the drivers get tied in then?02:50
hycI haven't figured that out yet :P02:50
manekinekoare the libraries binary blobs or do we have the code for those?02:50
hycso far I've only found the code for the wrappers02:50
hycI believe the actual display driver is a blob02:51
hycnot sure02:51
manekinekothe libgles_qualcom driver?02:51
hycright02:52
manekinekoyeah, that's just a blob02:52
manekinekosuppose we could avoid having to code anything and just rip out the libagl and libhgl libraries and stick them in?02:53
hycrip them out from where?02:54
hychero?02:54
manekinekofrom the current ROM you're using that doesn't throw the errors02:54
manekinekoincidently did test 18 work?02:54
manekinekoand did you see anything weird visually on test 17?02:54
hycno, test 18 FCd02:54
hycand test 17, not sure what it was meant to do02:55
hycit seemed like it was panning and zooming ok02:55
manekinekohmm sounds like maybe no improvement then, other than being quieter in the log02:55
hycright02:55
manekinekoI thought test 17 looked a little funky, not like the other landscape ones02:55
manekinekowhen it panned it looked odd02:55
manekinekobut not sure if that is just what it looks like02:56
hychttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=63866602:59
dingbatshuffling through kernels to find one that has working wifi, to download that OpenGL 3D03:18
dingbatshowcase03:19
hycok, 18, 19, and 20 FC for me03:23
hyc21 and 22 work03:23
hyc23 appears to have hung on "Loading"03:24
hyc24 is fine03:25
hycgoing to try it on the TP2 now03:25
hycwhich is still giving me SoD. POS03:26
manekinekohah03:26
manekinekoyou on the new test kernel from WisTilt2 that is supposed to resolve those?03:26
hycyep03:26
manekinekodingbat, any kernel should work with wifi03:26
hycjust installed it a couple hours ago03:27
dingbatfor the touch pro, kernel updates seem to break wifi compatibility occasionally03:27
manekinekooh really? didn't know that03:27
dingbattrying the 1/24 one, should work03:28
hycI really don't like the XDA init scripts, they copy tons of files to /data on every boot03:28
hycthey should check for a flag file and only do the copy if needed03:28
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hycok, got same results on TP2 as on G103:41
hycexcept that 23 ran fine on TP203:41
hycprobably not enough memory on G103:42
dingbatcan someone please host the opengl3d apk03:42
hycone sec03:43
hychttp://highlandsun.com/hyc/yz.opengl.es11.apk03:44
manekinekohmm probably to dig anymore into this problem would require looking at the code03:44
dingbathyc, thank you03:45
dingbatwas about to call it a night with this wifi nonsense03:45
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hycI decided to send crash feedback to google for tests 18 19 and 2003:47
manekinekomakes sense, since you're on a native Android device03:48
manekinekowouldn't hold our breath for any fixes from them though03:48
hycright03:48
hycof course, this is not an official T-Mobile rom03:49
hycand yeah, not gonna hold my breath on any useful response03:49
hycgoogle has pretty much zero customer support03:49
dingbatyeah, 18, 19, 20 crash the software03:59
dingbat23 hangs03:59
hyc23 eventually runs03:59
hycit needs RAM, it's creating billions of data points04:00
dingbatoh04:00
hycor something ridiculous04:00
dingbatI'll let it run for a few mins04:00
hycit didn't take long on my TP204:00
hycit took forever on my G104:00
dingbatdid you try the hw3d.force=1 line on the G104:01
hycshouldn't need it04:01
hycand the G1 doesn't have a startup like TP2 anyway04:01
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dingbatwaited a few mins and saw a "not supported" banner04:09
hycreally?04:09
hycit worked on my TP204:09
hycwhat image are you running?04:09
dingbatthis is a touch pro first gen04:09
hycoh04:09
dingbatwell, not first gen, just not 204:09
hycstill, it's all MSM720004:09
dingbatthis one has a 7501a04:10
hycoh, ok. you're CDMA?04:10
dingbatyes04:10
hycstill have the same CPU and GPU04:10
hycjust a different radio04:10
dingbatI'm not familiar with their numbering scheme04:11
hycbut anyway, it doesn't seem like we're any worse off than the "native" android devices04:11
dingbathas anyone wrested some decent functionality out of an msm7x chip, like running quake2 at 30 fps even04:15
hycI recall seeing a google employee's G1 running quake a couple years ago04:16
manekinekoalright, getting late here, I'm off to bed, good luck with the graphics stuff guys04:16
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GlemSomOk, I *think* usercomments should be working now... ! :/04:26
GlemSomMy retarded webhost decided to upgrade PHP, which broke securimage..04:26
GlemSomAfter I've fixed that (took me quite a while)... They decided to roll-back to a backup, due to server-change...04:26
GlemSomffs.... :/04:26
GlemSomSo, I've re-fixed it... including a few permission issues... PLEASE drop me an email or something if it breaks again.04:27
GlemSomglemsom at xdandroind dot com04:27
GlemSomI gotta get some work done.... bbl...04:27
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camrohi guys06:52
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camro@phh: do you know, the "call recording" is this a kernel related stuff or framework related ?06:58
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Lmiller_awayman you do ever sleep?07:10
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arrrghhhi'm.... honestly not up this early usually.07:12
arrrghhhhave a patch to appy at work07:13
L_millerI see.07:13
arrrghhhapply*07:13
arrrghhhyea it's just after 5am here.  bleh.07:13
L_miller6...07:13
L_millerNormal work for me. :(07:13
arrrghhhheh07:14
L_miller6 or 7.07:14
arrrghhhbut hey you get off early07:14
arrrghhhright?07:14
arrrghhhi usually have to work till 180007:14
L_miller3:30 or 4:30 depends....07:14
L_millerouch.07:14
arrrghhhbut don't start until 090007:14
L_miller:(07:14
L_millerahh ok that's better.07:14
arrrghhhdepends on the day.  i still have a lot of things i "support" so i have to hold those hours.07:15
arrrghhhkinda sucks, but c'est la vie.07:15
L_milleryeah I would like going in later too but not coming home that later.07:15
arrrghhhheh07:16
arrrghhhit's a tradeoff.  i used to work 630-33007:17
arrrghhhi was late a lot.... but it was very nice gettin off that early.07:17
* L_miller IS late alot... 07:17
arrrghhhheh07:17
arrrghhhbastages switched me to salary, so now the timeclock has no meaning.07:18
L_millerthat will be coming soon for me too...07:18
L_millerCan't wait.07:18
arrrghhhyea.  i wasn't too happy about it TBH07:18
L_millerI don't really punch in but...07:18
arrrghhhdon't get me wrong, not punching a timeclock is great.07:18
arrrghhhbut getting the same paycheck no matter what has its ups and downs... usually its downs because they'll make sure to work you more than 40 hrs :P07:19
L_milleryeah that is usually the case.07:19
L_millershit my phone just completly froze during a flash at 82% :(07:20
arrrghhhoh noes07:20
* L_miller waits....07:20
arrrghhhnice07:21
* arrrghhh got his tax return07:21
* L_miller still waiting...07:21
arrrghhhstill at 82%?07:21
arrrghhh:/07:21
arrrghhhflash to android?07:21
L_millerbet that was nice.07:21
L_milleryup.07:21
arrrghhhdamn.  usually that's real quick too.07:21
L_millertime to pull the plug.07:21
arrrghhhcuz it's what 3mb?  lol07:21
arrrghhhyea, return was average actually.  but i've always claimed 0, this was the first time i could do 2.07:22
arrrghhhhell turbotax told me to bump it to 3.07:22
L_millerlol wtf... did it again... Same spot.07:22
L_millerOhh well...07:23
arrrghhhuh oh07:23
arrrghhhcan you flash winmo?07:23
L_milleryeah most likly.07:23
arrrghhhhope so...07:24
arrrghhh:S07:24
L_millerthird time = fail!07:24
L_millerOk different rom07:24
arrrghhhheh07:24
L_millerahh. fixed it.07:25
L_millerwas playing around with shit i shouldn't have i guess. ;)07:26
* L_miller hasn't started his taxes yet... 07:26
arrrghhhlol07:26
arrrghhhi get that crap done07:27
L_millerI think i have everything ready to go... Just need to drop it off. :)07:27
arrrghhhassuming i have all the damn info07:27
arrrghhhdrop it off?07:27
arrrghhhturbotax ftw :P07:27
L_millerNahh... Uncle = free. :)07:27
arrrghhhlol07:28
L_milleror a case of beer.07:28
arrrghhhi don't have a tax peddling uncle :P07:28
arrrghhhmy taxes are pretty easy07:28
L_millerIt's nice.07:28
arrrghhhgot my return quick too, i was surprised.07:28
arrrghhhmy state came within 3 days i think07:28
arrrghhhfederal was... 6.07:29
L_millerwow! crazy fasst07:29
arrrghhhlooooove e-file07:29
arrrghhhalright, time to go to work07:33
L_millerlater!07:33
arrrghhhpeace07:33
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Tandyman100Hey guys10:09
Tandyman100http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3kBzSMkX5Y&feature=related10:09
Tandyman100That's damned impressive10:09
Tandyman100I tried that build on  my non-overclocked raph800 and it was unusable10:09
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MassStashL_miller, natemcnutty, up yet guys? saw acl dropped n autobuild lastnight, bout to try it12:06
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L_milleryeah... Give it a try. I havn't yet and Not sure what he has changed either.12:12
L_millernatemcnutty - you getting any closer on data?12:13
L_millerI have a couple ideas but would like to run them by you.12:14
jonpryfix pppd?12:17
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MassStashyea L_miller, you messing with pppd still or find a better solution?12:17
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L_millerWell I seen in the system.rc there is a call for "ifup lo" which does not even exsit in out version of busybox...12:19
L_millerBut we have it as a symblink in the rootfs.12:20
arrrghhhwhat would lo do for us tho12:20
arrrghhhlo is always up from my testing.12:20
arrrghhhppp0 is... not.12:21
L_millerNot for sure... That's why I'm asking you guys.12:21
L_millerJust came across it. :)12:21
L_miller# basic network init12:21
L_miller    ifup lo12:21
L_miller    hostname localhost12:21
L_miller    domainname localdomain12:21
arrrghhhlol12:21
arrrghhhdamnit jim12:21
arrrghhhwhat about ppp012:21
Tandyman100arrrghhh12:21
arrrghhhi'm pretty savvy with networking (it is a big part of my job)12:21
Tandyman100http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3kBzSMkX5Y&feature=related12:21
arrrghhhso this is one area i can probably help with12:21
Tandyman100Have you seen that?12:21
arrrghhhTandyman100, wtf are you sending me youtube vids for.12:22
arrrghhhi can't view thos12:22
arrrghhhthose*12:22
Tandyman100Remember testing out that Hero build on the Touch Pro was absolutely horrible12:22
Tandyman100oh12:22
Tandyman100What OS are you on atm?12:22
L_millerarrrghhh - you are the man! Not me :) Just looking at stuff.12:22
Tandyman100well, it's a video of the Hero xdandroid build running at a pretty fast speed, unfortunately, the graphics are still clipped :./12:22
Tandyman100:/12:22
arrrghhhTandyman100, not OS issue i'm at work...12:23
Tandyman100oh, sorry mate :)12:23
arrrghhhnp12:23
arrrghhhso what's your question about it?12:23
arrrghhhi don't remember any hero builds specifically12:23
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Tandyman100I thought you were here? It's a build of XDAndroid with sense built in (or whatever it's called on android)12:24
arrrghhhoh12:24
arrrghhhrosie12:24
arrrghhhwhat about rosie12:24
Tandyman100That's it.12:24
arrrghhhshe's a tired old hag12:24
Tandyman100It was SLOW. And in this video, someone managed to get it going SPEEDEH and uses it day-to-day (silly idiot)12:24
arrrghhhtiad8 kanged it and rebranded it "SENSE X"12:24
arrrghhhso...?12:24
Tandyman100i just thought it was worthy of mention ;)12:24
arrrghhhmeh12:25
arrrghhhi don't like sense on android12:25
arrrghhhsense makes winmo bearable12:25
Tandyman100I like the clock :P12:25
arrrghhhbarable?12:25
arrrghhhbleh12:25
arrrghhhTandyman100, fancy widget12:25
arrrghhh/done12:25
Tandyman100yeah12:25
Tandyman100hehe12:25
MassStashwerd12:25
Tandyman100I never did figure out how to install that on XDAndroid, but it doesn't matter. FRX04 is too slow for day-to-day use on my RAPH800.12:25
arrrghhhmeh12:26
arrrghhhscreams on my rhod12:26
arrrghhhwhich doesn't make sense as we have the same specs12:26
arrrghhhand rhod is pushing more pixels12:26
arrrghhhso in theory it should be slower.  just not a lot of devs working on raph.12:26
Tandyman100odd O_o12:27
Tandyman100I have serious lag problems, and camera isn't working yet x.x12:27
* arrrghhh stabs Tandyman100 in the face12:27
arrrghhhcamera does work, and the code is being integrated into the main kernel.12:28
* Tandyman100 bleeds all over his raph80012:28
arrrghhhlol12:28
Tandyman100Yay, excuse for an upgrade.12:28
Tandyman100Wait WHAT12:28
Tandyman100when did THIS happen?12:28
Detuleha12:28
arrrghhhwhat12:29
arrrghhhcamera?12:29
arrrghhhforever ago12:29
arrrghhhthe thread is even in the TP section12:29
Tandyman100i just tried the latest build as of three weeks ago, and the camera app just gave me the 'lolz not werkan your tard' checkerboard-pattern12:29
arrrghhhlol12:29
Tandyman100FRX04 (or however you spell it. Something with a 4)12:29
emwestinebd: does one still need the hw3d.zip in repo root?12:30
Tandyman100Though I noticed it wasn't the image with the fixed buttons (my home button would sleep the device... wut.)12:30
Tandyman100aw no. The touch pro was moved to legacy devices12:34
* Tandyman100 sobs12:34
Tandyman100I feel so inadequate!12:34
Tandyman100Woah.12:35
* Tandyman100 just saw the HTC S74012:35
Tandyman100That looks cool :P12:35
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Tandyman100I'm an idiot. I forgot what to put in startup.txt to define that haret and the associated android files are going to be in the subdirectory /android12:54
rpierce99rel_path=android12:55
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Tandyman100Thanks.12:57
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nck20hey guys i have some cellphone network problems with the newest gingerbread beta13:42
Tandyman100what phone are you using?13:43
nck20htc topaz (diamond 2)13:44
nck20i have the newest kernel and rootfs from the xdandroid site13:44
arrrghhhgb is alpha, if anything.13:48
Tandyman100I'm booting it right now on my raph800. So far I'm noticing that the boot animation is a lot smoother than froyo ;)13:49
Tandyman100I also double-tapped a calibration point, so this should be... intersting.13:49
nck20I don't even have a boot animation XD i just have a black screen13:49
arrrghhhnck20, sounds like hw3d isn't working for you13:50
nck20but when i use the neopeek's gb beta i have cellphone connection,13:50
arrrghhhstartup.txt?13:50
nck20i think you're are right cause i changed my startup.txt to disable hw3d13:50
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Tandyman100it booted13:51
Tandyman100WOW this is FAST13:51
Tandyman100Geez.13:51
nck20Tandyman100, does your cellphone network works?13:52
nck20arrrghhh, can my cellphone network problem having something to do with my startup.txt?13:53
arrrghhhcould13:53
arrrghhhTandyman100, yea gb is quick.13:54
arrrghhhnck20, perhaps.13:54
Tandyman100I have no clue, I'm soft-resetting and deleting ts-calibration ATM13:54
arrrghhhi don't have a TD so i'm not positive13:54
nck20what do i have to change in my startup.txt to solve the problem, if it's in my startup.txt?13:54
rrewTPZhey all13:54
nck20hey13:54
Tandyman100damnit13:54
Tandyman100I have a bug to report ._.13:55
nck20what is it?13:55
rrewTPZarrrghhh, u here?13:55
Tandyman100When booting on a raph800, when it comes to the calibration, the calibration points aren't visible.13:55
arrrghhhno13:55
arrrghhhTandyman100, known issue13:55
arrrghhhplease read the steps in the thread13:55
Tandyman100ah13:55
Tandyman100herp derp, I need to RTFM13:55
arrrghhhnck20, pastebin your startup.txt13:55
arrrghhhTandyman100, yes.13:55
arrrghhh:P13:55
Tandyman100I guess I'll just grab another ts-calibration :P13:55
nck20what do i have to do with my startup.txt?13:56
Tandyman100actually13:56
Tandyman100what order are the points?13:56
Tandyman100upper-right, middle, upper-left, lower-left, lower-right, correct?13:56
arrrghhhTandyman100, that won't work13:56
arrrghhhhow will you know where to hit?13:56
arrrghhhnck20, if you don't want my help then i don't have to help you..13:56
nck20tandyman100, you just have to restart your phone and then the calibration points will appear13:57
Tandyman100I know *about* where the points are, I just forgot what order they're in.13:57
arrrghhhnck20, not true13:57
Tandyman100nck20, nope.13:57
nck20i worked for me with froyo13:57
arrrghhh...13:57
nck20*it13:57
arrrghhhthere's a kernel issue after the .35 framebuffer commit.13:57
arrrghhhso no, won't work in froyo either unless you're on an old kernel.13:57
arrrghhhplease read my steps... it's all in there.13:57
nck20ok i'm sorry13:57
nck20arrrghhh, do i have to copy my startup.txt to this chatpage./13:58
nck20?13:58
rrewTPZarrrghhh, saw someone needs a logcat from a native msm7200 device? still needed?13:59
arrrghhhrrewTPZ, yes!13:59
arrrghhhwhat do you have?13:59
arrrghhhnck20, pastebin...13:59
nck20sorry what is pastebin???13:59
nck20first time here13:59
rrewTPZi could provide a logcat of my friends samung galaxy14:00
arrrghhhpastebin.com?14:00
arrrghhhchrist.14:00
Tandyman100lol14:00
arrrghhhrrewTPZ, that's msm7200?14:00
rrewTPZyep14:00
arrrghhhrrewTPZ, tell cotulla14:00
arrrghhhin #htc-linux14:00
arrrghhhhe might or might-not be interesting.14:00
arrrghhhsammy might not help :P14:00
rrewTPZok14:00
nck20sorry that i don't know pastebin.com14:01
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arrrghhhnck20, google is your friend.14:02
arrrghhhbzo, what's goin on mang14:02
nck20i've found the page14:02
bzohi arrrghhh14:02
nck20i've submitted my startup.txt and what now?14:03
arrrghhhuhm14:04
arrrghhhgive me the link?14:04
nck20http://pastebin.com/bdkup0du14:04
arrrghhhtwo issues14:05
nck20ok14:05
arrrghhhwhy do you have an acpuclock command if you want to run at stock speeed14:05
arrrghhhand why do you have sleep_mode set to 2?14:05
nck20idk, got this startup from someone14:06
arrrghhhok14:06
arrrghhhchange those two things14:06
arrrghhhremove the acpu command14:06
nck20otherwise my phone can't come out of sleep14:06
arrrghhhand change sleep_mode to 114:06
arrrghhhwhat kernel are you on?14:06
arrrghhhthis was fixed by sir bzo a while ago.14:06
nck20the newest from xdandroid site14:06
nck20oowh ok i'll try it again ;) but i think that doesnt has anything to do with my network problem? does it?14:06
rrewTPZhw3d.force=1 still needed in startup.txt?14:07
arrrghhhrrewTPZ, don't think it's necessary but doesn't hurt.14:07
arrrghhhnck20, probably not.14:07
rrewTPZjust askin :P14:07
nck20ok, but do you know where i maybe can find a solution for it?14:07
rrewTPZdamn a long time passed since i was a little bit active on here  and a lot of things changed :P14:08
arrrghhhnck20, just boot it with those changes14:08
arrrghhhwe can troubleshoot from there14:08
nck20ok14:08
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nck20still no boot animation for me14:11
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nck20still not network connection14:12
arrrghhhhrm14:13
arrrghhhbootani is confusing14:13
arrrghhhnot sure why you wouldn't have that14:13
arrrghhhbut is airplane mode on?14:13
arrrghhhdid you check all of the android-related settings to the radio?14:13
rrewTPZapn maybe?14:14
nck20airplane mode is not on14:14
arrrghhhapn would only effect data AFAIK14:14
nck20and what radio do you mean?14:15
arrrghhhnck20, can you turn it on and then wait a few secs then turn it back off?14:15
arrrghhhnck20, i'm assuming you're talking cell radio14:15
arrrghhhas in you get no bars14:15
arrrghhhlittle X by the signal meter14:15
arrrghhhyes?14:15
nck20yes have a X by the signal meter14:15
rrewTPZcdma or gsm?14:15
arrrghhhcycle radio14:15
arrrghhhtd2 is gsm only, no?14:16
nck20i live in holland so i think it's only gsm14:16
rrewTPZgsm14:16
rrewTPZyeah14:16
rrewTPZthough we were talking about rhod14:16
rpierce99is it ePlus? lot of forums users are saying that mediascanner breaks ePlus14:16
nck20no ePlus is german14:16
* rpierce99 has no idea what that is14:16
arrrghhhlol14:17
arrrghhhservice provider14:17
* rpierce99 is a stupid american, oblivious to the rest of the world14:17
nck20Hi14:17
nck20i'm trying to put my phone in ap mode, but it doesnt work14:18
rrewTPZdid you ever had cell connection on your td2?14:19
nck20yes14:19
rrewTPZwith android14:19
rrewTPZhmmm14:19
nck20yes always had14:19
nck20but sometimes i don't hear the people on the otherside of the line14:19
arrrghhhi honestly don't know what would trip that up other than startup14:19
arrrghhhnck20, that's an old kernel issue14:19
arrrghhhwas fixed with a newer kernel.14:19
rrewTPZthere is a workaround for that14:20
nck20but i have the newest from the xdandroid site??14:20
arrrghhhflip speakerphone on/off14:20
arrrghhhnck20, newest...?14:20
arrrghhhwhat kernel14:20
nck20the kernel on the xdandroid.com site14:20
arrrghhh...14:20
arrrghhhyou're so helpful.14:20
arrrghhhlike pulling teeth trying to help you dude.14:20
nck20sorry i'm a noob i know14:21
Tandyman100bahaha14:21
arrrghhhthat's not an excuse14:21
arrrghhhi was a noob too, i just read a lot14:21
arrrghhhthen read some more14:21
Tandyman100I was a noob too. Still am.14:21
nck20ok,,14:21
arrrghhhi have a router to build tho, so i'm done pulling teeth.14:21
nck20ok,14:22
rrewTPZdid you tried using a new data.img?14:22
nck20jep, made a new data.img when i started gb, and did that a couple of times with new data.img14:22
rrewTPZdunno any other reason :S14:24
nck20but where can i find the newest kernels? cause i use the one's from this site14:24
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f2ok i got some issues on the gingerbread build14:25
nck20what issues14:30
f2its a topaz diamond 214:30
f2GMS is dead so no fone signal14:30
f2wifi doesnt start at all14:31
rrewTPZwifi is a known problem14:31
nck20another one who don't have a phone signal14:31
f2boot animation or what ever u call it, it not present or seen, just black screen14:32
f2mine is a GSM fone14:32
f2oke14:32
nck20where do you live?14:32
f2UAE14:33
nck20hmm ok14:33
f2United Arab Emirates  or AE14:33
nck20i know what UAE is :p14:33
f290% dont14:34
nck20ok ;)14:34
nck20i payed attention at school :P14:34
f2so whts yur role in the development team14:35
f2???14:36
f2and yes UI is laggy14:37
f2so nck20 what happened u have gone silent?14:38
nck20i don't have a role in the development team14:39
nck20and i was doing some expirements with my gb on my topaz14:39
f2and?14:39
nck20still bussy, if i have the solution i'll tell it to you14:39
nck20first trying out neopeek's version again cause i thought i have phone signal with that one14:40
f2the devs are busy working on .35 kernel14:41
nck20where can i find the newest kernels? cause i think i have them but i'm not sure14:41
f2i know of .2714:41
rpierce99nck20: http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/14:41
nck20those are the same as on the xdandroid.com site14:42
f2yes and no14:42
f2the one on the xandriod was build by F2214:43
rrewTPZu the one from glemsom14:43
rrewTPZuse*14:43
nck20ok14:43
f2since glensom site was down and would not push newew kernels\14:44
arrrghhhf2, what are you talking about?14:44
arrrghhhyea, but F22's kernels were never on xdandroid's site.14:44
arrrghhhthey were only posted in a thread on xda-devs...14:44
nck20but why is the gelnsom version better then the xdandroid?14:45
arrrghhhwhat do you mean?14:45
arrrghhhwho said the GlemSom version were any better, they're the exact same kernel...14:46
f2hajhahahaha arrrrghhh is here14:46
nck20but why should i take the glensom then rrewTPZ???14:46
f2welcome14:46
arrrghhhthe Latest Updates section on xdandroid.com links to GlemSom's kernels.14:46
f2ooops14:46
rrewTPZ:D14:46
arrrghhhnck20, you're over-thinking it.  or under... or just not at all, i don't know.14:47
f2dude nck20 i meant F22 posted kernel for us on XDA site since the other build service was down14:47
nck20i'm just learning14:47
nck20ok14:47
f2Feb 22nd, 2011 Announcement: Now that Glemsom's auto-build system is back up, I will no longer be posting kernels to this thread. Kernel 1260 is the last that will be posted here. I encourage everyone to use the auto-build service from this point forward. Feel free to continue using this thread to discuss new kernels as they're released. 14:48
arrrghhhyes14:48
arrrghhhf2, that's correct.14:48
rrewTPZi use always glamsom ones becouse i can read change logs :D, dunno if its possible on xdandroid site14:48
arrrghhhrrewTPZ, it's not :P14:48
rrewTPZi love technical description on what is changed not only numerical :P14:49
f2why is every one calling me f2?14:50
arrrghhhuhm14:51
rrewTPZyou nick maybe points to this?14:51
arrrghhhyour name14:51
rrewTPZyour*14:51
arrrghhhLMAO14:51
f2its MJ14:51
rpierce99no it's not14:51
arrrghhhno, it's not at all14:51
f23+14:51
f2:-X14:52
f2314:52
f2its not me my 1 year old daughe14:52
arrrghhh...14:52
f2r+'14:52
f2++++++14:52
f2314:52
f2314:52
f2its my daughter14:53
f2she has developed a fany for my keyboard14:53
f2fancy14:53
f2so arrrrgh14:54
f2u have used gingerbread right14:55
arrrghhhhere and there14:56
f2i got some issuesa14:56
f2like no signal14:56
f2no wifi -- again14:56
f2UI is laggy14:57
f2sound works14:57
f2UI is neat14:57
arrrghhhwifi is related to the modules14:57
arrrghhhno signal, i'd guess startup.txt, but i don't know.14:57
arrrghhhgb works great for me14:57
arrrghhhUI flies compared to froyo14:57
f2using the same i use for fx0414:57
arrrghhhi haven't seen any complaints in the forum14:58
arrrghhhwhat device?14:58
f2314:58
f2314:58
f2314:58
f2314:58
f2314:58
f2314:58
f2topaz14:58
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f2using the latest rootfs and kernel14:59
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arrrghhhemwe, you there?15:00
f2eh?15:00
arrrghhhf2, can you change your name?  it's very annoying.15:00
f2i am using IRC on pidgin15:00
f2its neat15:00
Tandyman100haha15:01
f2can i say i dont like your nick also pls change it :)15:01
f2and yeah everything annoys you  :)15:02
f2but i dont mind changing my nick > whats the command?15:02
arrrghhhi don't know why i even help people.15:02
f2coz the force asked you to :)15:03
f2let me try changing my nick again yeah15:04
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arrrghhhoh it's that imran bastard.15:04
arrrghhhmakes sense now.15:04
kwoodyusalol15:06
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kwoodyusaso much funny stuff in here15:06
f2hello15:06
f2has it made any diff15:06
kwoodyusaOMG15:06
arrrghhhlol15:06
f2whats my name15:06
arrrghhhyou can't see your name?15:06
arrrghhhoh right you're using pidgin15:07
arrrghhhoy15:07
f2yup15:07
arrrghhhcan't help you then15:07
f2i would need to delete the a/c and make a new one15:07
arrrghhhnot even sure if you can /nick on that15:07
arrrghhhi don't use pidgin15:07
f2see our conversation is making many ppl wake up again as most are dormant anyways15:08
oddO+O15:08
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testingok it works15:09
testingnow whats my name? is it r4esting15:09
testingtesting15:09
arrrghhhtesting, wtf are you talking about.15:09
testingIRC command works here15:10
emwearrrghhh: re. you don't by any chance have any issues with the lastest rootfs, do you?15:10
arrrghhhemwe, haven't tried it15:10
arrrghhhthe one with all the removed mess?15:10
testingthe latest one15:11
arrrghhhtesting, please don't respond for something that you're not involved in.15:12
arrrghhhemwe, i haven't tried it.  lots of whiners about gb on TOPA, do you have radio issues on GB?15:12
emwearrrghhh: just not binding rootfs lib/hw to /system/lib/hw15:12
arrrghhhhrm15:12
arrrghhhthat might be an issue.15:12
testingwell i am using the latest one thats why15:13
testingand i feel the last one was better15:13
emwearrrghhh: only testing gb with .35. i couldn't even see bootanim anymore. just retesting the rootfs before.15:13
arrrghhhsounds like the same issue15:13
testingsame issue here15:13
testingno boot animation15:13
testingjust black screen15:13
arrrghhhtesting, nck20 are you on the newest rootfs?15:13
testingyesh15:14
arrrghhhgo back to the one in my bundle.15:14
Tandyman100This is lulz15:14
arrrghhhor the one that's a step older15:14
arrrghhhTandyman100, it's actually maddening, thanks.15:14
Tandyman100haha15:14
Tandyman100I find it mildly amusing, but then again, I'm not trying to help them.15:14
emweso, with previous rootfs bootani is back.15:14
nck20yes i'm on the newest rootfs15:14
emweah... isn't it mounting another gralloc or something for wvga?15:14
Tandyman100If I did, I'd probably tell them something that would make everyone mad at me for being such a @#$% retard.15:14
arrrghhhnck20, jesus christ why didn't you tell me that?15:15
nck20i already told you in the beginning15:15
arrrghhh...15:15
testingarrrgh u got yur own rootfs builds15:15
emwearrrghhh: you don't listen. lol :/15:15
* emwe runs15:15
nck20[19:44] <nck20> i have the newest kernel and rootfs from the xdandroid site15:15
emweoh, that was supposed to be a ;)15:15
testingget use to it he is like that , shotgun15:15
arrrghhhnck20, you just said "the newest"15:16
arrrghhhyou never said which one.15:16
testingshoots first and talk later :)15:16
arrrghhhtesting, you're an idiot.15:16
nck20i thought you would be smart enough the think that the newest is the latest15:16
testingand u are rude15:16
emwetesting: that's what one gets like in the support business. and he's doing a great job keeping the devs free from such user hassles15:16
testingyup15:16
testingsee arrgh i am trying to be nice with you as i have my interest in seeing xandriod run on our varios phones15:17
testingvarious15:17
arrrghhhtesting, don't care.15:17
emwearrrghhh: ok, with 20110210 topa is good again.15:17
arrrghhhemwe, guten.15:17
arrrghhhtesting, nck20 revert to an older rootfs.15:17
Tandyman100testing, it takes an enourmous amount of patience to deal with multiple users that aren't necessarily stupid, but aren't as knowledgeable about the subject in question as the person they're asking.15:17
Tandyman100Thus appearing as a clueless retard.15:18
arrrghhhand please don't dare make comments like that again nck20.15:18
testingnoted15:18
arrrghhhi do not appreciate it at all.15:18
arrrghhhi don't make ANY assumptions.15:18
Tandyman100Be glad arrrghhh is taking ANY time out of his (probably busy) schedule at all to help you.15:18
arrrghhhi can't assume that you said you're on the newest, you truly are on the newest.15:18
arrrghhhyou need to tell me WHICH one15:18
Tandyman100^15:18
arrrghhhi will determine if it's the newest or not.15:18
arrrghhhspeaking of which, i do need to finish this router before i go home.15:19
testinghail every one for arrrghhh15:19
arrrghhhlol that's not necessary :P15:19
nck20i'm using the the 20110224 atm15:19
arrrghhhplease try rootfs-20110210-2cb7ec0.zip15:20
arrrghhhhttp://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/rootfs-20110210-2cb7ec0.zip15:20
arrrghhh^^15:20
testingi will try reverting to the last released rootfs and let you know how gingerbread works15:20
testingor behaves15:20
nck20sorry about my comment15:20
arrrghhhi'm betting it'll be better lol.15:20
arrrghhhoh stinebd15:20
arrrghhhgiving me headaches to deal with.15:20
nck20but you're a little bit rude too15:20
arrrghhhi am rude15:20
testingso can we be rude also :)15:20
arrrghhhnot news to me.15:20
arrrghhhnot if you expect my help!15:21
Tandyman100If you're on the recieving end of help, it's best to just roll with the punches.15:22
testingWisTilt2 kernels are good they behave very well15:22
arrrghhhtesting, you read so well15:22
testingdo u like my name now ,nick'15:23
testing:-D15:23
arrrghhheh i can autocomplete it eaiser.15:23
testinghmm15:26
nck20rootfs-20110210-2cb7ec0 is working, thank you very much and sorry for me being rude to you arrrghhh15:27
arrrghhhnp.15:28
* arrrghhh is a rude person, and i would say i'm sorry but i'm really not. lots of crap on my plate today.15:28
nck20can you tell me what is a good site to learn abou this or do i just have to google?15:28
arrrghhhuhm15:28
arrrghhhlearn about what?15:28
arrrghhhandroid?15:28
arrrghhhlinux?15:28
arrrghhhxdandroid?15:28
nck20xdandroid15:28
arrrghhhwell our website15:28
arrrghhhxdandroid.com15:28
nck20ok15:29
arrrghhhthere's a ton of info there15:29
testingnck20, what do you mean by its working again15:29
arrrghhhhtc-linux.org is good too15:29
arrrghhhbut more for developers15:29
arrrghhhtesting, old rootfs15:29
arrrghhhplease go back to http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/rootfs-20110210-2cb7ec0.zip15:29
nck20testing, i didn't say working again?15:29
testingi am loading the llast rootfs15:30
testingthe one you asked15:30
testingmy question was for nck2015:30
testinghe says its working15:30
arrrghhhyes15:30
arrrghhhwith that rootfs15:30
testingnck20 are u getting the signal again?15:31
nck20yes15:31
testingis the boot animation working?15:31
nck20also15:31
testingwhat about basic 3D15:31
natemcnuttydo we really need the ipv6 module?15:31
arrrghhhnatemcnutty, for google goggles15:31
arrrghhhfor whatever reason it requires it...15:32
natemcnuttydamn15:32
arrrghhhit's not enabled by default, you have to modprobe it in15:32
stinebdit should really be built in15:32
natemcnuttyfreaking waste of space15:32
testingthank you nck2015:32
nck20you're welcome testing15:32
arrrghhhnatemcnutty, lol15:32
nck20what is the battery life of gb???15:32
testingarrrghhh, you shud change yur nick to shotgun_arrrghhh15:32
testing:-D15:33
arrrghhh...15:33
arrrghhhwell when i get shoddy information...15:33
stinebdgood crowd today i see15:33
arrrghhhseriously.15:33
Tandyman100lol15:33
testingboot animation check15:33
arrrghhhdid you see the issues on the new rootfs stinebd ?15:33
stinebdarrrghhh: didn't i warn you about them?15:33
arrrghhhjust trying to make my life difficult, i swears.15:33
testingworks15:33
arrrghhhstinebd, no service and no bootani?  no.15:33
stinebduh15:33
stinebdi clearly said our current gingerbread release may or may not work15:34
arrrghhhi mean the rootfs15:34
Tandyman100When it works, it's brilliant.15:34
stinebdyes15:34
arrrghhhuh15:34
arrrghhhi don't get it.15:34
nck20guys thanks for all, bye15:34
stinebddo i need to fish up the log for you?15:34
testingUI is faaaast15:34
testingnck20 come again15:34
arrrghhhstinebd, no, don't care.15:35
testingwe can discuss many things15:35
nck20i'll see, first i'm gonna learn some stuff so i don't piss off arrrghhh with giving him the wrong info xD15:35
testingwifi works15:35
stinebdarrrghhh: http://xdandroid.com/irclogs/%23xdandroid.20110224.log.html#t2011-02-24T17:58:1415:35
stinebdnow you care :P15:36
testinggot fone signal also15:36
stinebdanyway i should put out a new release15:36
stinebdwith crashy gps and camera support15:37
arrrghhhlol stine... oy.15:37
stinebdarrrghhh: that's why gingerbread isn't an actual release yet15:37
arrrghhhLIES15:37
stinebdif people want to test it, that's fine15:37
stinebdbut they shouldn't be surprised when it blows up15:37
arrrghhhALL LIES15:37
arrrghhhyea, i know.15:37
arrrghhhfor some reason they still are tho15:37
stinebduntil we make a release, consider any gingerbread changes to rootfs to be relevant only to my working tree15:38
testingwifi is connected15:38
testingstinebd when can we get hq videos to play as they shud and when are u releasing a new gingerbuild :)15:39
stinebdwhen you submit patches15:39
testingoke15:39
arrrghhhlmao15:40
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testing:-D15:41
testingwish i coud15:42
testingcud15:42
xdandroidDonation received! Thanks, Petro, who says: Keep the good work!15:44
testing:)15:46
testingso what next?15:49
arrrghhhwhat do you mean what next15:50
arrrghhhyour problems are solved, no?15:50
testingyes15:50
arrrghhhok15:51
arrrghhhso what do you mean what next.15:51
testingi wanted to keep the momentum of conversation to go on15:52
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arrrghhhtesting, not necessary15:53
arrrghhhthis isn't a room for chat.15:53
MurasakiI'm new with HTC, smartphones overall, and I'm really hoping I don't eff up my phone. ): Anyone care to help?15:54
testingarrgh u got your patient help him15:54
testing:-D15:54
MurasakiI'm not a him. ;[15:54
Tandyman100Murasaki, there is almost no way you can 'eff up' your phone by installing/using XDAndroid.15:55
arrrghhhMurasaki, what's wrong15:56
Tandyman100if it doesn't work, all you have to do is reboot the phone and delete the files :)15:56
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MurasakiEarlier my problem was getting HardSPL to work. After two days of asking for help and no response, I just dropped it.15:57
MurasakiI went to HTC's website and was able to boot up their rom, but when I was using the Topaz Hard SPL, it says I'm not synced properly.15:58
testingxandriod is HardSpl free u dont need it15:58
MurasakiI dl'd the .cab, still didn't work.15:58
MurasakiMy first intention was getting a Rom15:58
MurasakiSo I switched to Xandroid, now.15:58
rpierce99first, don't use the cab, it doesn't work15:59
MurasakiWell; First I was getting an android, until it malfunctioned when an unknown caller rang my phone. The entire thing froze up, so I restarted.15:59
rpierce992nd, what kind of phone do you have15:59
MurasakiThen Xandroid was running impeccably slow, so I just deleted it.16:00
MurasakiHTC Pure.16:00
testinglol he got a topaz :)16:00
testinglike me16:00
MurasakiAgain, I'm not a he, lol.16:00
arrrghhhlol16:00
arrrghhhpure?16:00
arrrghhhis that the TOPA?16:00
MurasakiYes.16:00
arrrghhhas was stated previously, cab is broken.16:00
arrrghhhalso, android isn't perfect16:01
arrrghhhif you are concerned about missing calls, etc. stick to winmo.16:01
testingit was rel4eased by AT &* T16:01
MurasakiSo I've noticed, lol.16:01
arrrghhhalso, as was stated earlier hSPL isn't required for android on SD16:01
MurasakiI'm not concerned about missing calls.16:01
MurasakiI'm concerned about the fact that the system malfunctioned after 9 seconds into the call16:01
manekinekoWinMo is hardly perfect either, I trust my XDAndroid more than I trusted WinMo16:01
MurasakiWhich I heard is quite the occurance, no big deal16:01
MurasakiBut16:02
manekinekodingbat hyc : got a response on the opengl driver thread from a Hero user http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=899801&page=2216:02
manekinekothey also get failures running OpenGL tests on the same tests16:02
MurasakiWhen I rebotted my phone, the Xandroid was very, very slow.16:02
arrrghhhMurasaki, make sure you're completely up to date.16:02
arrrghhhsee my FRX04 thread16:02
manekinekoI think we're pretty much out of luck when it comes to getting fully working OpenGL 1.1 on our devices16:02
MurasakiI just now downloaded the kernels and the rootfs.16:02
MurasakiI don't rename anything, right?16:02
arrrghhhrootfs is rootfs.img16:03
arrrghhhzImage is zImage16:03
arrrghhhdon't rename modules.  should be .tar.gz16:03
MurasakiAlright.16:03
MurasakiBut when I download it, do I take off all the numbers and whatnot that shows it's the latest?16:03
testingand dont get the latest rootfs16:04
MurasakiEh?16:04
testinghttp://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/rootfs-20110210-2cb7ec0.zip16:04
testingget this one16:04
MurasakiAlright16:04
testingthe latest rootfs has some issues16:04
arrrghhhMurasaki, follow what i said.16:04
arrrghhhzImage renamed16:04
arrrghhhrootfs renamed16:04
MurasakiAlright.16:05
arrrghhhmodules leave be16:05
MurasakiWas just making sure, sorry. ;x16:05
rpierce99arrrghhh: if she started from the cab shouldn't she just download a package and start over?16:05
testingjust copy it16:05
arrrghhhrpierce99, maybe.16:05
arrrghhhwho knows if the cab even worked.16:05
rpierce99exactly my point16:05
arrrghhhif only i could read minds...16:05
rpierce99upgrading broken16:05
arrrghhheh, perhaps.16:05
MurasakiCopied.16:05
arrrghhhi think i shouldn't do any more support today.16:05
testingare u refering to cab by OTA updates16:05
arrrghhhtesting, no16:05
testingu mean the whole package of fxo416:06
arrrghhhyes16:06
testingokei16:06
testinghow do u know that she is she?16:06
testingby name?16:06
rpierce99she has said it multiple times16:06
MurasakiAwesome, I think everything is up to date now..16:06
testingaaaah16:07
testingi get it16:07
Murasakio_o Eh?16:07
MurasakiYou kept calling me a he when I said I'm a girl like twice, lol.16:07
MurasakiNot that it matters. But I don't have male genetalia.16:07
testingi can guide her since she has a pure which is similar to mine16:07
testingunderstood16:08
Murasaki:D16:08
arrrghhhMurasaki, most people on here are dudes.16:08
arrrghhhin our defense :P16:08
MurasakiHeh16:08
testingmale16:08
Nautishmm latest testing kernel you posted arrrghhh ends me at bash prompt16:08
MurasakiWell. xD I'm a gamer, so I hear it all the time. No big deal.16:08
Tandyman100gamer chick16:08
arrrghhhNautis, patience16:08
Tandyman100:o16:08
MurasakiYus.16:08
testingon xbox?16:08
Tandyman100AMAZOING16:08
arrrghhhnogamesbox16:08
Tandyman100^16:08
testinglol16:08
MurasakiMMO's, mostly. D:16:08
Tandyman100Screw consoles, PC FTW16:09
testing:-D16:09
Nautisrgr16:09
MurasakiPc ftw indeed.16:09
testingso is xandriod booting16:09
testingwell now16:09
MurasakiGonna get on that right now. I hung up last time, but I don't think I had copied and pasted startup.txt16:10
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Murasaki /facepalm16:10
testingwht about yur startup ?16:10
MurasakiMade sure I moved startup.txt16:10
MurasakiPathed to andboot16:10
MurasakiShould work this time.16:11
testingthe keyboard in gingerbread is so tiny16:11
MurasakiDoes no one else malfunction though? Or was that just because the rootfs and kernels were out of date?16:11
MurasakiI like the keyboard that comes with this.16:11
rpierce99Murasaki: old kernels and rootfs will absolutely kill it, there has been a lot of recent progress on speed and stability16:12
MurasakiOH. Testing, are you able to sync your facebook and contacts together by any chance?16:12
MurasakiAwesome, so this should work nowww.16:12
testingcontacts sync16:12
testingcoz i stored them on gmail or google sync16:12
rpierce99Murasaki: assuming your system.ext2 is up to date16:12
MurasakiWhen I went in settings; sync and what not, I clicked facebook and it goes back to the menu :/16:13
testingfrom my WinMo16:13
MurasakiYeah pierce, I have the final .ext216:13
rpierce99FRX04?16:13
MurasakiYus16:13
testingi was going to ask just that16:13
testing:)16:13
MurasakixD I'm not THAT incompetent16:13
manekinekoFacebook sync is broken16:13
MurasakiDamnit, why?16:14
manekinekomost likely a build.prop issue actaully, but no one has bothered to figure out why16:14
testingfacebook sync>16:14
MurasakiI used uh..16:14
arrrghhhfb sync is dumb16:14
MurasakiSyncmypix or something16:14
arrrghhhfailbook16:14
MurasakiIt fails.16:14
manekinekothe Facebook app is poorly coded and checks for approved device names16:14
rpierce99facebook sync works for me16:14
MurasakiI like the pictures. ):16:14
manekinekoand obviously our device is not in that list16:14
rpierce99not contacts, but i don't think so16:14
MurasakiWhere can I find fb sync? And does it cost?16:14
rpierce99err i don't think it is supposed to16:14
manekinekorpierce99 really? you can add Facebook accounts?16:14
rpierce99it's just the facebook app in the market, and it's free16:14
rpierce99to the facebook app, yes16:14
manekinekoso you go to Settings => Accounts => Add and can choose Facebook?16:15
rpierce99no16:15
MurasakiFml, I really need a stylus..16:15
manekinekooh, so what do you have working then?16:15
manekinekorpierc99 I mean16:15
MurasakiBooting up haret.16:15
MurasakiFacebook sync is an actual app, I believe16:15
MurasakiI just can't find it.16:15
rpierce99I thought I read an article that said Google killed that because of facebooks unwillingness to make portable data16:15
manekinekoonly on Nexus S16:16
testingwe can either choose google or corporate?16:16
manekinekothe kill is mainly symbolic to get it back in the news16:16
arrrghhhtesting, yes16:16
manekinekotesting: yes16:16
arrrghhhlol16:16
Murasaki*Confused*16:16
Tandyman100Just for lulz, where would I find the first build EVAR of xdandroid?16:16
MurasakiCan't tell if Haret is hanging or not..16:16
manekinekoMurasaki, for the pics syncing thing, I use https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nloko.android.syncmypix&feature=search_result16:16
rpierce99Murasaki:  it's just called Facebook, once android is running stable for you, you can go hog wild on the market16:16
rpierce99Murasaki: what do you see16:17
manekinekoworks fine for syncing Facebook contact pictures16:17
MurasakiI downloaded that last night, mane. And the bastard kept syncing the wrong people.16:17
MurasakiEven when I put their last name in my contacts.16:17
manekinekoyou can alter who is links with who16:17
MurasakiDidnt notice. I edited my contacts that were wrong, redid it, and it did the same people16:18
MurasakiNevermind, it's not hanging, was just sitting for a long time.16:18
MurasakiProbably 'cause of the new files c:16:18
testingu must be in the boot screen16:18
testingcheck at the bottom16:19
rpierce99the first boot it creates a brand new 256MB data.img16:19
MurasakiThe underscore is still flashing if that's what you're asking for xD16:19
testingdoes our build use the ext3 partition if its present?16:19
rpierce99no16:19
MurasakiHm, it stopped again..16:20
MurasakiWatching this thing like a hawk.16:20
rpierce99don't16:20
Murasaki:c16:20
arrrghhhlol16:20
rpierce99just let it go, 5 minutes tops16:20
rpierce99ok maybe not tops16:20
testingso it must be loopback?16:20
MurasakiI get impatient after doing this process for so many times16:20
MurasakiIt's moving again, no big deal.16:20
testing:-D16:21
MurasakiIt's just a lot longer than when I had the old files.16:21
arrrghhh10 minutes tops i'd say16:21
testingwith the new gb build and .35 kernel xandroid will rock16:21
arrrghhhMurasaki, first boot takes a lot longer16:21
arrrghhhneeds to create the data.img, etc.16:22
MurasakiYeah I figured that. But since I didn't know how to update before16:22
rpierce99arrrghhh: go make a router, no more support today remember16:22
arrrghhhlol done with router16:22
arrrghhhand ip phone16:22
MurasakiI was using the files that actually came with the first froyo download16:22
MurasakiSo the installation was done in like 2 minutes16:22
arrrghhh...16:23
MurasakiI'm so excited c: Thank god I randomly found this site, you guys are awesome for helping me.16:23
testingwelcome16:23
arrrghhhlmao16:24
arrrghhhi'm such an asshole...16:24
MurasakiD: Why?16:24
testingno u are shotgun16:24
arrrghhhMurasaki, why?  i guess blame my dad.16:25
MurasakiLmao16:25
MurasakiHm16:25
MurasakiSo what do you guys download for your xandroid to make it awesome?16:25
arrrghhhuhm16:26
testingmurasaki , just checj if u have the wifi error issue yeah16:26
arrrghhhxdandroid is awesome16:26
testingi first of all get astro file manager16:26
arrrghhhwho uses wifi?  rubes.16:26
testingthen install rest from my SD card16:26
testingi do16:26
arrrghhhRUBES16:26
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MurasakiI use wifi in my house16:26
testingseee16:26
MurasakiBecause this place is a deadzone16:26
testing:-D16:26
arrrghhhmeh16:26
MurasakiI only get 3g like MILES away from my house16:27
testingand i am in expense zone16:27
testingwhere are u from and now ?16:27
testinglocated16:27
arrrghhhoh well16:27
arrrghhhtoo much fun16:27
testingare u using GSM16:27
MurasakiCalifornia16:27
arrrghhhi'm goin home16:27
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MurasakiD"16:27
MurasakiD:*16:27
MurasakiWell that's fail16:27
testing?16:27
MurasakiHe left us D:16:28
rpierce99he was at work16:28
MurasakiOh xD16:28
testinglol16:28
testingyup16:28
MurasakiI'm just at home. Chillin.16:28
MurasakiNo class on fridaysss.16:28
MurasakiSore as a bitch though :c16:28
testingso are u on yur home screen?16:29
testinghave u finally booted?16:29
MurasakiI wish LOL16:29
MurasakiIts still running16:29
testingmeaning?16:30
MurasakiHaret, booting up16:30
oddo.O16:30
MurasakiHai o_o16:30
testingso u are still stuck somewhere?16:30
rpierce99you still see black screen w/ white letters?16:30
MurasakiEh, it moves when it wants to16:31
MurasakiYeah16:31
rpierce99yeah you're probably missing ts-calibration16:31
MurasakiIts not stuck or anything though. It gradually moves16:31
rpierce99I know16:31
MurasakiAnd idk how I'm missing it, I haven't even calibrated yet16:31
testingso have u clicked on the boxes?16:31
MurasakiThat part hasn't come yet xD16:31
rpierce99the boxes don't show up on the new kernel16:31
MurasakiOh16:32
rpierce99you need a ts-calibration file from a topaz16:32
MurasakiLame..16:32
MurasakiWish I knew that16:32
rpierce99well you can roll an old kernel, calibrate, and then upgrade if it's easier16:32
MurasakiWell, what kernel doesn't show the boxes?16:33
MurasakiAll kernels after the first? Or?16:33
testingor mat be u can take my calib file16:33
MurasakiThe latest one?16:33
MurasakiIf that's possible. Idk how I could just randomly input it though16:33
MurasakiIf it needs the calibrate file, wouldn't linux just hang?16:34
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rpierce99touch the corners of the screen, one of them should respond if it's waiting for calibration16:34
testingin the newer kernel the screen get all garbbled up16:35
MurasakiWhat is this.. Brendan Fraser day on cartoon network?16:35
MurasakiI don't think its waiting16:35
MurasakiI see the white scroll from time to time16:35
testingtouch the points and u are good to go16:35
rpierce99but she won't see the points, that's the problem16:36
rpierce99calibration will be all over the place16:36
MurasakiScreen is black now16:36
rpierce99bootani, that's a good sign16:36
MurasakiAh, pressed the top button16:37
MurasakiNevermind :c16:37
MurasakiThis is taking like a decade16:38
testingcan we do a file sync on IRC16:38
rpierce99yeah it's not working16:38
rpierce99it should never take this long16:38
rpierce99reboot to winmo and look for a ts-calibration file in your andboot folder16:38
MurasakiBlegh, all that progress and waiting16:38
MurasakiHit me with a file then16:38
rpierce99check and make sure you don't have one, want to be sure that's our issue16:39
MurasakiI know I don't because I re-extracted from the original zip16:39
manekinekoshe probably has the file now if she already touchedd the screen16:40
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manekinekoeven if she couldn't see the points16:40
MurasakiI didn't use the one I had from like, last night16:40
rpierce99manekineko: doesn't calibration time out though16:40
manekinekoI don't think so, I've seen it sit there a long time before16:40
manekinekobefore I realized that I didn't have a calibration file16:40
MurasakiI know I don't, lol16:41
MurasakiI didnt think that would be an issue16:41
MurasakiNo one said anything before I booted Haret :P16:41
MurasakiSo who's forkin over the cal file?16:41
testingu never aked16:42
testingasked :)16:42
testinghttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10960604#post1096060416:42
MurasakiLiar. D:16:42
testingHow to install Fx0416:42
Murasakiwaitwhat16:42
testingmy whole easy to ready how to16:42
MurasakiI have all of this though..16:43
MurasakiI thought I only needed one file16:43
rpierce99yeah that's all the stuff you already did16:43
testingsend me a pm with yur email id and i will email you my file16:43
rpierce99i don't see anything in there about ts-calibration16:43
MurasakiNever did I lol16:44
MurasakiIdc about my email being out there, lol16:44
MurasakiLeahlimee@live.com16:44
testingthe file always gets created16:44
testingwhen we boot16:44
testingfresh16:44
rpierce99only if you can see the touch points16:44
rpierce99and touch them16:44
MurasakiYes, but not with the new files apparently16:44
rpierce99which you can't with the newer kernels16:44
MurasakiI'd have to only get the first package and the new ext216:45
MurasakiThen I'd have ts16:45
MurasakiAnd I'd have to go back and do the kernels, etc.16:45
MurasakiJust give me the one file. xD16:45
testingwait16:46
MurasakiPokewars on facebook ;~;16:46
MurasakiKilling me.16:46
MurasakiOh, has anyone tried the Words with Friends app here?16:47
rpierce99a couple of my friends have it and like it, I don't have any friends so it's pretty useless for me16:48
rpierce99wait that sentance was self-contradicting16:48
MurasakiThank you for the file, testing~16:48
MurasakiLOL16:48
Murasaki /pat16:48
testingso u got it thanks16:48
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testingtry it16:50
testingjust over ride yur file16:50
MurasakiI didn't have the file to begin with lol16:51
MurasakiAlright.. Lets see.16:52
testinggotta go bye16:52
MurasakiBye, thanks for helping D:16:52
testingemail me with how it goes yeah16:52
testingbyeee alll16:52
testingtnx16:52
MurasakiWill do16:52
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MurasakiAre you leaving too, Pierce? D:16:52
rpierce99no16:53
Murasaki:D16:53
MurasakiAlright so I rebooted haret..16:54
MurasakiEta? :/16:54
xtremistanyway to make camera working16:54
xtremistand long battery life16:54
xtremist??16:54
rpierce99assuming it already built your data.img  maybe 2 minutes16:54
MurasakiHoping so.16:55
MurasakiI want my camera to work too, matter of fact16:55
manekinekoxtremist, maybe soon, they're in the process of merging in camera kernel to mainline16:55
MurasakiHm16:55
xtremistand battery is the main problem16:56
xtremistalthough m happy16:56
rpierce99the battery part depends on device though16:56
MurasakiHowso?16:56
rpierce99we don't have hw docs for some of the devices the kernel supports16:56
xtremistbut battery drains to fast and yeah i using latest kernel but u knw when unlocking my screen by pressing power button my screen turns black to i hv to press any button to make it nrmal16:56
rpierce99without hw docs we can't turn the panel off all the way16:56
xtremistm using diamond10016:57
rpierce99so for the devices that we DO have docs for, panel off = good battery, otherwise on or off it's not good16:57
MurasakiWhich have docs then?16:57
stinebdrhod16:57
MurasakiFigures16:58
xtremistand whts about diaond screen issue >?16:58
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MurasakiI bought this HTC pure for 40 bucks from someone16:58
MurasakiSo I'm trying to bear with it16:58
Aks_am trying to run 12-Feb-2011 GB build but fails on bootup says "can't find rootfs" - anything on this ? i m running rhod40016:59
MurasakiI think Haret is gonna do the same thing, even though I have ts cal..16:59
manekinekoAks_, umm do you have a rootfs?16:59
Aks_n thrs no ts calib in the zip16:59
Aks_i hv rootfs in the dir17:00
rpierce99Aks_: assuming you're reading the thread you should have seen the file attached, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=95181717:01
manekinekodid you stick it in a folder? if so, do you have a rel_path in your startup.txt?17:01
MurasakiIts been 12 minutes, still on Haret :/17:02
rpierce99Murasaki: just so you know, haret only lasted 1 sec, as soon as you hit black screen, you were in kernel17:03
xtremisti hope someone will make nand soon17:03
xtremistand a good battery life17:03
xtremistand diamond black screen issue17:04
MurasakiOkay, well I've been staring at white text for 14 minutes17:04
rpierce99Murasaki: where did you put ts-calibration17:04
MurasakiIn the root17:04
rpierce99is that where haret and zImage are?17:04
MurasakiYes17:04
rpierce99and it doesn't have a file extension17:04
rpierce99no .txt or anything17:04
MurasakiNo, just said ts-calibration17:05
MurasakiWait a sec..17:07
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MurasakiI really hope I'm wrong right now lol17:08
Aks_was w/o CAPS in there :)17:08
Aks_ny1 tried oc on it yet?17:08
rpierce99Aks_: OC works fine as long as you use startup.txt17:09
rpierce99setCPU et al don't work17:09
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rpierce99see Murasaki arrrghhh is back now17:09
rpierce99arrrghhh: she was very sad when you left17:10
MurasakiLOL BE QUIET17:10
arrrghhhlolwut17:10
arrrghhhi am dead sexy.17:10
MurasakiI'm such an idiot though17:10
MurasakiI put ts cal in the andboot folder of my COMPUTER17:10
MurasakiNot my sd card..17:10
MurasakiFigures17:10
arrrghhhlolz17:10
rpierce99Murasaki: no offense but we kind of expect that these days17:10
MurasakiRofl17:10
MurasakiThat hurts17:10
MurasakiNo sandwich for you.17:10
arrrghhhyea, i basically assume people are doing it wrong.17:10
rpierce99the idiot thing, not the andboot thing, that's a new one for me :)17:10
arrrghhhthey are in here17:10
arrrghhhif they were doing it right, they probably wouldn't be asking questions in here :P17:11
MurasakiI came here after almost having a mental breakdown lol17:12
MurasakiI was scrolling ANY site that had to do with xandroid17:12
MurasakiAnd I came across the main page of this and saw a chat feature17:12
arrrghhhxtremist: please don't pm me unsolicited.17:12
xtremistsry17:13
Aks_whadya epect arghhh ... look @ his name :D17:13
manekinekoarrrghhh, ever consider sticking device specific ts_calibration files in the device folders with the startup.txts?17:13
manekinekomight save a lot of support17:13
arrrghhhhrm17:13
arrrghhhi have device-specific ts-calibration files in the thread17:13
manekinekoyeah, but seems like half the support these days surrounds the separately downloaded ts-calibration17:14
arrrghhhyea17:14
arrrghhhbleh17:14
manekinekoheh17:14
MurasakiAlright.. One more time17:14
arrrghhhi'll just put mine in there17:14
arrrghhhscrew other devices.17:14
arrrghhh:P17:14
manekinekolol17:14
rpierce99we just need the calibration from SPL that ACL has been working on17:14
arrrghhhstinebd is rolling over right now17:14
arrrghhhrpierce99: i think that'll only apply to nand.17:14
arrrghhhperhaps not tho, that would be nice.17:14
stinebdwhy would it only apply to nand?17:15
MurasakiWish me luck :/17:15
rpierce99i don't know a lot about any of that nand spl business, but I would think if the kernel could read spl it wouldn't matter where it was booted from17:15
arrrghhhstinebd: just assuming that's where it'll go first.17:15
arrrghhhoh yea no limitation on where it goes17:15
arrrghhhi'm just assuming that only the NAND tree will use it.17:16
arrrghhhalthough there's rumblings of merging the NAND tree with haret moving forward to .35.17:16
arrrghhhthat would be nice, if possible.17:16
TheDeadCPUsjkdfgkasd17:17
MurasakiGonna be irritated if this takes another twenty minutes17:17
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arrrghhhget your money back Murasaki17:18
Murasaki;[17:18
MurasakiI bought this Pure for forty bucks from someone17:18
MurasakiI was close to breaking my Samsung Solstice17:18
MassStasharrrghhh, what's you think bout battery meter, seems more accurate to me17:19
arrrghhhwha?17:20
arrrghhhno work has been done on battery meter as of yet.17:20
Tandyman100magic17:20
arrrghhhat least nothing that would be tangible to the end user (us)17:20
rpierce99arrrghhh: that statement is not true, but nothing in a published kernel afaik17:20
arrrghhhdamnit jim.17:20
stinebdhehe17:20
arrrghhhi knew some smart ass was going to chime in17:20
arrrghhh:P17:20
* rpierce99 is a smart ass, better than a dumb ass i suppose17:21
arrrghhhindeed.17:21
rpierce99Murasaki: any luck?17:21
arrrghhhi'm a smart ass too, hence the reason i amended my statement.17:21
MurasakiAndroid is not making me happy right now17:21
arrrghhhWinMo's only a horrible reboot away17:22
Murasaki:/17:22
MurasakiI've restarted this 3 times17:22
arrrghhhhey, i'm just sayin you've got options.17:22
MurasakiAnd its still taking years17:22
arrrghhhno as in use WinMo if Android is giving you grief.17:22
arrrghhhyears?17:22
MurasakiI don't like winmo or I wouldn't be here.17:22
arrrghhhare you a drama queen?17:22
arrrghhhno fatties or drama  queens allowed in here.  except for stinebd, who is both.17:23
MurasakiLol17:23
stinebdgot the market cornered17:23
rpierce99i wish i could QFT that statement17:23
arrrghhhlol17:23
arrrghhhMurasaki: what's the problem?  it's just taking a while to boot?17:23
MurasakiArgh hasn't been sitting here through my grief, so I'll just ignore that statement17:23
arrrghhhdowhat17:24
rpierce99arrrghhh: new kernel, i think it's prompting for calibration, but ts-calibration *SHOULD* be in the proper place now17:24
arrrghhhi was here for some of it17:24
arrrghhhoic17:24
rpierce99it's just sitting there scrolling every now and then17:24
arrrghhhi caught the tail end of that17:24
arrrghhhtap the screen a few times, see if it moves forward17:24
Aks_arrrghhh:can you put out your ts-calib somewhere I can pick up from17:24
arrrghhhMurasaki: ts-calibration doesn't have a .txt extension does it?17:24
MurasakiNothing17:24
MurasakiNo17:24
arrrghhhAks_: it's in all my threads17:24
arrrghhhdepending on your phone.17:24
MurasakiIts everything else but .txt17:25
MurasakiIts just a file17:25
arrrghhhMurasaki: ok, where did you put it and where are you running haret.exe from?17:25
MurasakiMoving again17:25
rpierce99arrrghhh: both in root17:25
arrrghhhlies17:25
arrrghhhALL LIES17:25
arrrghhhis it creating a data.img?17:25
rpierce99wait17:25
MurasakiHow would I know, lol17:25
rpierce99Murasaki: you said you put the file in andboot on your local pc, but you're running from root17:25
MurasakiIts just been scrolling for the past ten minutes17:26
rpierce99why would you put it in andboot at all17:26
stinebdpebkac17:26
arrrghhhwell, yea.17:26
MurasakiWhen I had everything on my desktop..17:26
Aks_arrrghhh:sorry came in today after a long time ... can u give url?17:26
arrrghhhwe just need to narrow where the E is stinebd17:26
arrrghhhAks_: damnit jim17:26
MurasakiAlright. So the little tux icon is gone now17:26
MurasakiThats new17:26
rpierce99arrrghhh: e=exists17:26
arrrghhhwhat device17:26
arrrghhher17:26
arrrghhhthe P17:26
arrrghhhlol17:27
arrrghhhneed to figure out where the problem exists?17:27
arrrghhhcan't really save that f-up.17:27
rpierce99Murasaki: you either hit bootani (good) or you turned the screen off again (bad)17:27
arrrghhhlol17:27
MurasakiBootani..?17:27
rpierce99boot animation17:27
rpierce99for some people that means little flying androids, for others (when 3d is broken) it means a black screen17:28
MurasakiWell opposed to the previous boots17:28
arrrghhhoh i <3 our random obsecure terminology17:28
MurasakiThe penguin in the corner never left17:28
MurasakiNow it's gone17:28
arrrghhhfucking penguin17:28
MurasakiWhich is good, right?17:28
rpierce99is it still scrolling white text?17:28
MurasakiAnd it's still scrolling17:28
rpierce99then no it's not good17:28
rpierce99it just means you've waited longer17:28
arrrghhhpatienence!17:28
rpierce99and the penguin fell off the top17:29
arrrghhher17:29
arrrghhhhowever you spell it17:29
stinebdpoor tux17:29
MurasakiWell pierce keeps telling me to stop it17:29
arrrghhhi just am having a bad day today i guess.17:29
MurasakiSo let me know what do to17:29
arrrghhhgood think i have the next week off.17:29
MurasakiIt doesnt appear to be scrolling anymore17:29
rpierce99it's been > 15 minutes each time arrrghhh17:29
arrrghhhOo17:29
arrrghhhMurasaki: so it's all at the root of your SD rigth?17:29
arrrghhher right17:29
arrrghhhreboot to winmo, need to check if there's a data.img17:29
arrrghhhi wonder if that's before or after ts-calib17:30
MurasakiOther than being in the folder ANDBOOT, which is in the root, yes17:30
MurasakiAnd my startup is pathed to root17:30
rpierce99lollerskates17:30
MurasakiWhy do I have to keep starting over lol..17:30
rpierce99Murasaki: if haret.exe and zImage are in the root, everything needs to be in the root17:30
rpierce99no andboot17:30
arrrghhhzomg that's not the root17:31
arrrghhhandboot is andboot17:31
MurasakiThey said it could be in the folder17:31
MurasakiUgh17:31
arrrghhhit can be17:31
arrrghhhbut you have to adjust a value in the startup.txt17:31
arrrghhhotherwise android doesn't know where to find things17:31
rpierce99and move everything17:31
Murasaki*Starts over, for the 342932 millionth time*17:31
arrrghhhjeebus17:31
arrrghhhyou are a drama queen17:31
rpierce99Murasaki: it only takes 1 time doing it right :)17:31
arrrghhhyou need to take it one step at a time17:31
stinebdreading alleviates these problems17:31
arrrghhhhave you seen my 12-step program?17:31
arrrghhhi have no clue how many steps it is actually17:32
arrrghhhbut it does walk you thru the install17:32
rpierce99arrrghhh: it's a pure, you didn't post a pure walktrhough or topaz i don't htink17:32
arrrghhhmeh17:32
MurasakiIve been taking it one step at a time for like 3 days now. If you're just going to call me out of my name, you don't have to talk to me..17:32
arrrghhhit applies to any device17:32
MurasakiIt's really not helping17:32
arrrghhhrpierce99: tons of schmos have used my "guide"17:32
arrrghhhMurasaki: we're trying to help you17:32
arrrghhhbut you're not answering our questions honestly or correctly.17:32
arrrghhhif you don't know, say i don't know17:32
arrrghhhand we'll try to explain it to you17:33
MurasakiSaying "God you're such a drama queen" isn't helping me, lol. Its making me rather agitated. I said I'm new to the system and I keep getting falsely lead.17:33
arrrghhhfalsely led17:33
MurasakiI was told that the files being in the ANDBOOT folder of the root was okay, as long as the startup.txt was pathed to it17:33
stinebdthicken your skin. nobody is falsely leading you.17:34
arrrghhhthat's rather rude, i don't think anyone has "falsely led" you17:34
rpierce99Murasaki: that is true, but you also told me that haret and zImage are in the root17:34
rpierce99which will not work if startup.txt is pointing to andboot17:34
arrrghhhMurasaki: you can put Android ANYWHERE.  you just have to tell the system where you've placed it.17:34
arrrghhhrel_path= statement.  it's one of the steps in my guide...17:34
MurasakiEverything was in the andboot folder together on the root of my sd card17:34
arrrghhhso you need the rel_path=andboot in your startup.txt17:35
arrrghhhotherwise... it won't boot!17:35
MurasakiIts there17:35
MurasakiLike I said, its there17:35
arrrghhhok17:35
arrrghhhwhere17:35
MurasakiI' said that earlier17:35
arrrghhhafter set cmdline17:35
arrrghhhin between the quotes17:35
arrrghhhspaces between each entry etc?17:35
MurasakiYes, its the last command17:35
arrrghhhok...17:35
rpierce99ok, to be clear, yes or no, zImage, modules, startup.txt, haret, ts-calibration, rootfs.img, system.ext2, are all in /sdcard/andboot/17:35
arrrghhhand ts-calibration is in the andboot folder?17:35
arrrghhh^^ this17:36
MurasakiI'll just get rid of it since its such a bother17:36
arrrghhh...17:36
arrrghhhyou just need to put everything in andboot17:36
arrrghhhif you want to use andboot for your folder17:36
arrrghhhi have my builds 2 folders deep17:36
arrrghhhand it works great, so long as rel_path is properly set.17:36
rpierce99arrrghhh: it's possible that her startup.txt was corrupted by a rogue text editor, probably good to move it to root and use the default17:36
MurasakiNothing was ever outside of the ANDBOOT folder. Its been in the ANDBOOT folder since 9am, when I started working on it17:36
arrrghhhok17:36
arrrghhhrpierce99: bleh, you're right.17:37
MurasakiI didn't have a problem with Android until I downloaded the newer files17:37
arrrghhhhrm17:37
arrrghhhthen perhaps you updated incorrectly...17:37
rpierce99Murasaki: move everything out of andboot to the root, then delete your startup.txt and replace it with the default one that came in the package for your PURE17:37
arrrghhhcrap, which rootfs did you download?17:37
MurasakiI downloaded and replaced like I was told and changed the root and the other files name accordingly17:37
arrrghhhhttp://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/rootfs-20110210-2cb7ec0.zip <---- grab that one17:38
arrrghhhif you got 224, it'll fail.17:38
arrrghhhalthough it should boot17:38
arrrghhhso that's probably not the problem.17:38
arrrghhhi guess we'll just assume that notepad messed up the startup.txt17:38
MurasakiIts not, testing gave me 2-10 and I used it instead of 2417:39
arrrghhhgood17:39
arrrghhhso move everything from andboot17:39
arrrghhhto the root of the SD17:39
arrrghhhremove the rel_path statement from your startup.txt17:39
arrrghhhand try again17:39
MurasakiIs it possible that testing's ts-cal file is no good?17:39
stinebdyou people are boring and this build is taking a while so i'm gonna play some zelda 2 and get angry17:39
arrrghhhlol17:39
rpierce99Murasaki: ignore what arrrghhh said about editing startup.txt, delete it and put the default one in its place17:39
arrrghhhMurasaki: possibly, yes.17:40
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arrrghhhlol i guess that would be a better course of action.17:40
arrrghhhi'll just let rpierce99 do my job.  i'm sucking at it today.17:40
stinebdignore arrrghhh is always fun17:40
arrrghhhlol17:40
MurasakiI believe the default .txt came with the rel_path, anyway17:41
MurasakiSo..17:41
arrrghhhwasn't mine then17:41
rpierce99oh well then just make sure to edit it in notepad and save a straight text17:41
arrrghhhrpierce99: extra carriage returns won't mess it up17:41
arrrghhhare you thinking a word processor saved it in a different format?17:41
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rpierce99arrrghhh: i edited mine from winmo once and it added crazy characters17:42
arrrghhhthat would be... odd.  but i guess anything's possible.17:42
MurasakiGoing through my downloads17:42
arrrghhhrpierce99: wtf?  i always edit from winmo17:42
arrrghhhoh17:42
arrrghhhbut i make sure to hit NO when it asks if it should convert it17:42
rpierce99see17:42
arrrghhhheh you converted it17:42
* arrrghhh is more careful than that17:42
arrrghhh:P17:42
rpierce99seriously though, I wouldn't be surprised if MS word or wordpad screwed up a file or two17:43
MurasakiShould I just.. Idk, boot the haret with the old files first, get my own ts-cal, then upgrade my files?17:44
arrrghhhsounds good17:44
stinebddamn it, just as i start playing it finishes17:45
arrrghhhsave that ts-calib everywhere17:45
arrrghhhin like 15 places17:45
MurasakiLol17:45
arrrghhhyou can reuse it again and again, assuming you make a good one.17:45
MurasakiWtf, its hailing outside17:45
MurasakiI make excellent ts-cals17:45
stinebdno, it's just really big sleet17:45
MurasakiNaw dude, that was straight hail :c17:45
MurasakiIts pelting my poor car..17:45
arrrghhhgarage ftw17:46
stinebdgo go gadget gingerbread17:47
MurasakiMy grandma wont let me use it17:47
arrrghhhgapps fix stinebd?17:47
arrrghhhgrandma17:47
MurasakiSo.. Copying everything to the root now17:47
stinebddoubtful17:47
arrrghhhaw17:47
Aks_my butterfingers cant calibrate the screen :D17:48
arrrghhhlol17:48
stinebdi don't understand how ezterry's tree would work but ours wouldn't with the same source changes17:48
stinebdfor instance, right now i'm getting zygote crashes in libwebcore17:49
rpierce99stinebd: I thought it was some external process got upgraded or something, i know that's super helpful17:49
Murasakiset ramsize 0x10000000 set ramaddr 0x10000000 set mtype 2293 set KERNEL zImage set initrd initrd.gz set cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmvkeyb_toggle=off sensor=topaz rel_path=andboot" boot17:49
MurasakiThis came in my startup17:49
rpierce99something seems missing there17:49
rpierce99and the rel_path needs to go away now17:49
MurasakiKay17:49
MurasakiDeleted17:50
rpierce99pm.sleep_mode=117:50
rpierce99add that17:50
MurasakiAt the end is fine?17:51
rpierce99right where rel_path was17:51
MurasakiAnything else?17:51
Murasakieeee, thunder storm17:51
MurasakiNow I'm happy17:51
rpierce99there's not gsensor_axis, msmkeyb_toggle, hw3d.force, or physkeyboard in there, but I don't know if PURE needs them17:52
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MurasakiWell pure is strictly touchscreen17:52
MurasakiI have gsensor on winmo17:53
rpierce99ok so the keyboard ones are out then17:53
MurasakiShould it be in there?17:53
rpierce99probably, but i don't know the right values for a pure17:53
MurasakiHm, let me check for it on my phone17:53
arrrghhhso is hw3d force17:54
arrrghhhno longer needed17:54
rpierce99so that just leaves gsensor_axis17:54
arrrghhhis it the same as RHOD?17:55
arrrghhhi dunno17:55
rpierce99no idea17:55
arrrghhhmy package includes startups17:55
rpierce99either way it wouldn't break boot17:55
arrrghhh...17:55
rpierce99so whatevs17:55
arrrghhhno17:55
arrrghhhjust make for a f-ed up g-sensor lol17:55
Murasakio_o17:56
MurasakiWell, the app in my phone just calibrates it automatically17:56
MurasakiAnd theres no settings for it17:56
arrrghhhstinebd: you must read this madness http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=96976117:56
rpierce99yeah, it's not a calibration, it's just the axis17:56
rpierce99don't worry about it17:56
arrrghhh^^17:56
rpierce99paste your file in here one more time just to make sure17:57
Murasakiset ramsize 0x10000000 set ramaddr 0x10000000 set mtype 2293 set KERNEL zImage set initrd initrd.gz set cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmvkeyb_toggle=off sensor=topaz pm.sleep_mode=1" boot17:58
rpierce99they aren't all on the same line like that in the file right?17:58
MurasakiNah17:58
arrrghhhlol in windows they might be17:58
arrrghhhheh17:58
arrrghhhdo the caps matter in the startup?17:59
rpierce99it's a linux cmd line so I'm guessing it does17:59
rpierce99yeah it does, because physkeyboard is case sensetive options17:59
arrrghhhin the cmdline, yes case matters17:59
arrrghhhbut like set INITRD17:59
arrrghhhetc17:59
rpierce99i'm no linux expert, i thought everything was CS in linux18:00
MurasakiKERNEL is the only thing capitalized here18:00
rpierce99that's how mine is too18:00
rpierce99so all of the files are in the root of the sd now?18:00
arrrghhhi think only the cmdline is case senstive18:00
MurasakiI figured, my folder was ANDBOOT and I had it capitalized in the cmd line too18:01
arrrghhhja18:02
arrrghhhppl have had issues putting "Tilt2" as the physkeyboard18:02
arrrghhhcuz it's tilt218:02
arrrghhhlol18:02
rpierce99F22 had issues with b4HOME18:02
arrrghhhindeedy18:03
rpierce99Murasaki: you never answered, everything moved to root now?18:03
F22i did?18:03
rpierce99people in your thread pointed out that the file had the wrong case or something18:04
F22i misworded the instructions18:04
F22in two places18:04
MurasakiI said in the very beginning I got rid of the folder and that everything was in the root lol18:05
F22i fixed the first, but then people were still having issues until i noticed the second and fixed that too.18:05
MurasakiCopied the new startup.txt into the root as well18:05
MurasakiShall I boot haret now to get my ts then proceed with upgrading the kernel and rootfs?18:06
rpierce99F22: I don't mean to be a dick but http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11135476&highlight=b4home#post1113547618:06
arrrghhhbut, you do18:07
rpierce99i just wanted to make sure my memory wasn't playing tricks on me18:07
rpierce99Murasaki: go for it18:07
rpierce99you have ts-calibration in there too right18:08
rpierce99:)18:08
arrrghhhi think she's going to create one18:08
arrrghhhwith old kernel18:08
rpierce99oh18:08
arrrghhhso it s/b fine18:08
arrrghhhstupid .35 fb18:08
rpierce99which old kernel are you trying Murasaki18:08
arrrghhhacl just slammed that bastage into .2718:08
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MurasakiThe one that came with the installation..18:09
arrrghhhMurasaki: how do we know what installation you have18:09
F22rpierce: yes, linux is case-sensitive. although honestly, i could make it more forgiving in the version i'm about to release.18:09
rpierce99can you tell me the modules file name if you have it handy18:09
Murasakimodules-2.6.27.46-01165-gfc1639f.tar18:09
arrrghhhooooold18:10
MurasakiLike I said18:10
arrrghhhgood18:10
MurasakiThe one it came with..18:10
arrrghhhrun it, get a ts-calib18:10
arrrghhhMurasaki: lol again we have no idea which you downloaded.18:10
MurasakiAnd it worked, but when it got bugged, it was slow and very unresponsive18:10
MurasakiIdk, ReWind posted it18:10
MurasakiI can go and find it18:11
rpierce99F22: i have no problem, I was just trying to help arrrghhh determine whether cmdline was case sensitive, and used your issues as an example18:11
MurasakiIts like the first build underrr..18:11
MurasakiHTC Topaz18:11
bear_Have a question, was able to finally get the VZW TP2 Rhod500 working great with droid, except that it is telling me that I am out of memory, running it of a 32gb micro sdhc card is especially stating that I do not have any more room for text messages after about 7 txt messages18:11
arrrghhhuhm18:11
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arrrghhhhow many apps do you have installed bear_?18:12
ryanaathomeHi?18:12
bear_um not sure got a lil market happy but was installing all of them to the SD18:12
arrrghhhhowdy18:12
rpierce99bear_: it's not the size of the SD card, linux runs from a 256MB file on the SD card18:12
F22rpierce: ahh, lol, should have read more of your conversation first before responding. no problem.18:12
ryanaathomeI have an issue, and need a bit of help18:12
arrrghhhbear_: they all go to sd, data.img.18:12
arrrghhh+ what rpierce99 said bear_:P18:12
MurasakiGoing to run haret if there's no rebuttal18:12
rpierce99none here18:12
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ryanaathomeI have a screen issue18:12
rpierce99bear_: there is a program that will increase the size of your data.img18:13
rpierce99otherwise remove some apps18:13
arrrghhhindeed18:13
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arrrghhhryanaathome: let me guess.  CDMA RAPH or DIAM18:13
bear_awesome, is it a market app or an app to run on my system18:13
ryanaathomeis there an application that will help calibrate the screen when running Android on HTC touch Pro (Raph800)18:13
arrrghhhbear_: thread on xda-devs18:13
rpierce99no it runs in windows18:13
rpierce99http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=82415418:13
bear_Thank you, very much18:14
arrrghhhryanaathome: touchscreen is off?18:14
arrrghhhor does the actual screen get split?18:14
MurasakiGot my ts-cal now18:14
ryanaathomeNo. It does not register my touch.18:14
MurasakiSee, thats how long I wanted the other kernel to take18:14
ryanaathomearrrghhh: When I touch one thing, it goes to another thing on another part of the screen18:15
rpierce99ryanaathome: that's how you calibrate18:15
rpierce99you have to touch 5 points18:15
ryanaathomearrrghhh: no.. this is while IN android.18:15
arrrghhhryanaathome: you can either download a ts-calibration file18:15
rpierce99Murasaki: now that you have a calibration, get off that horrible old kernel18:15
ryanaathomearrrghhh: like, when I press Menu to go to settings, if I tap SETTINGS, it goes to wallpapers18:15
arrrghhhor use an older kernel and generate your own18:15
ryanaathomeMurasaki: ,...18:16
arrrghhhryanaathome: ok, makes sense.  you can do either of those things.18:16
MurasakiI'm not pro with this if you haven't noticed18:16
MurasakiSorry, wha?18:16
ryanaathomearrrghhh: Where would this ts-calibration file be?18:16
ryanaathome(sorry I am new to this)18:16
arrrghhhryanaathome: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=95198118:16
MurasakiAlright so18:16
rpierce99Murasaki: you have a calibration file, boot back to winmo, delete zImage and modules, and replace with the new and updated ones18:16
MurasakiI can just shut off this android boot screen?18:16
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arrrghhhMurasaki: the flying text?  no.  you must not only deal with it, you must enjoy it.18:17
ryanaathomeI don't follow on that18:17
rpierce99won't hurt to wait until you get an unlock screen, but once you hit flying androids is probably safe18:17
stinebdarrrghhh: why did i must read that?18:17
MurasakiThats what I was referring to18:17
arrrghhhstinebd: there's one nugget of info18:17
MurasakiBut its already on the screen18:17
MurasakiI'll just power off18:17
stinebdarrrghhh: no it isn't18:17
stinebdit's a nugget of kinda almost info18:18
arrrghhhlol18:18
arrrghhhyou know the bug tho18:18
arrrghhhyes?18:18
stinebdno18:18
arrrghhhryanaathome: read step 5....18:18
MurasakiLolol, I just read what you said argh18:18
MurasakiYou're weird18:18
arrrghhhyou're a towel18:18
MurasakiShaddao18:18
Murasakip*18:18
ryanaathomeok18:18
stinebdi for one am quite fond of towels18:18
MurasakiSo what about rootfs? Delete that too?18:19
stinebdthey rub my body and make me dry18:19
rpierce99as long as it's updated, leave it18:19
natemcnuttyunless they are a moist towel18:19
stinebdyeah those bastards are no good18:19
natemcnuttyexcept when you eat ribs18:19
MurasakiIts the one from August..18:19
MurasakiSo.. delete?18:19
arrrghhhlmao18:19
stinebdaugust?!18:19
bear_Thank You all Very much, have another question, with the newest build does the headphone jack work? thought I had the newest version but i had something plugged in and did not seem to work wondering if something special has to be done,18:19
arrrghhh@stinebd18:19
rpierce99holy cow, the d/l of the kernel and xdandroid gits just finished, that only took like 4 hours18:20
natemcnuttybear_: what device?18:20
bear_RHOD50018:20
bear_TP218:20
arrrghhhno18:20
natemcnuttynot yet18:20
arrrghhhnot yet18:20
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arrrghhhextUSB works18:20
natemcnuttyblackstone yes, rhod no18:20
arrrghhhthat stupid bastard dongle thing18:20
MurasakiLike what do people not understand about this kernel being OLD l: All the files are OLD.18:20
bear_so headphone works thought the extusb?18:20
arrrghhhMurasaki: you're old18:20
R^7ZSo, yeah I'm thinking of testing out a theory18:20
rpierce99you told us earlier that you updated a bunch of stuff Murasaki18:20
MurasakiI'm 19, I'm not old18:20
arrrghhhbear_: in the newer kernels18:20
MurasakiDelete rootfs or not18:20
bear_awesome I have 3 ext usb adapters,18:20
arrrghhhlol18:20
rpierce99Murasaki: update it18:21
R^7Zyay!18:21
bear_lol, gotta love it,18:21
MurasakiWell the other rootfs comes with numbers18:21
rpierce99Murasaki: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=93571018:21
MurasakiSo just dete it, right..18:21
* R^7Z wth is a ext usb adapter18:21
rpierce99Murasaki: you will have to rename the new one to rootfs.img18:21
arrrghhhR^7Z: the thingy you plug into your phone that has a 3.5mm and 2.5mm and usb jack out?18:21
MurasakiWith the extension? Or just rootfs?18:21
rpierce99oh wait, that's for RHOD18:21
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MurasakiUgh..18:22
rpierce99rootfs.img18:22
R^7Zhrm...18:22
arrrghhhMurasaki: didn't you download 210?18:22
arrrghhhthat tester gave you or whatever18:22
MurasakiCan I talk to someone in private about this, I cant read all of this at once18:22
arrrghhhimran18:22
MurasakiMigraine :c18:22
MurasakiWell he's telling me not to delete it, then to delete it18:22
R^7Zwhats the problem?18:22
rpierce99Murasaki: you have to delete it to update it18:22
R^7Zor overwrite18:23
rpierce99Murasaki: then rename the new one so it is just rootfs.img18:23
R^7Zeither or... 6 one way half a dozen the other18:23
MurasakiI just need someone to help me with android where I can actually read and not scroll through thousands of lines. Not to sound like a bitch18:23
MurasakiJust getting a headache18:23
R^7Zah18:23
R^7Zmight be indication of too much info at one time?18:24
R^7Zinfo over-load? ;)18:24
MurasakiYeah and its getting mixed18:24
R^7Zso heres what ya do18:24
Murasakiare PM's supported here?18:24
R^7Zkinda18:24
arrrghhhlol18:24
arrrghhhMurasaki: pm me or rpierce99, unless rpierce99 objects.18:24
R^7Zjust make sure you dont remove the apostrophe :D18:24
MurasakiWhoever's most willing to help, please?18:25
arrrghhhi don't mind.18:25
manekinekoarrrghhh, question18:25
arrrghhhmanekineko: answer18:25
manekinekoI noticed that you were looking the dialer thing18:25
arrrghhho yea18:25
manekinekomdpi/hdpi and all that18:25
arrrghhhhaven't really18:25
arrrghhhbut i want to18:25
arrrghhh:D18:25
MurasakiI dont even know how you PM here lol..18:25
manekinekowhy can't we just detect for device type somewhere for that18:25
manekinekomaybe in one of the init scripts18:26
manekinekoand just install a dialer based on device type18:26
R^7Zirc chat or something like that18:26
MurasakiOkay, does someone have msn..18:26
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MurasakiThat can help me18:26
arrrghhhMurasaki: should see a new tab?18:26
MurasakiAh18:26
R^7Zpoor thing she probably has more than one chat invite18:27
R^7Z:p18:27
rpierce99yeah she got mad about all the scrolling in here, lets all send pms so it's even more unmanageable!18:27
bzostinebd: err, I guess this chan is more appropriate re: new jb patches18:27
R^7Zha! nah...18:27
arrrghhhlol18:27
stinebdbzo: he sent me his camera stuff, a lot of which i've merged into my working gingerbread tree18:28
R^7Zya!18:28
bzostinebd: he should be sending you another set of patches to fix a few more problems18:28
R^7Zor yay*18:28
arrrghhhvideo record stuffs?18:29
arrrghhhwhat was he saying about hardware acceleration?18:29
bzoyou need the binary libs for them18:30
R^7Zor battery by that matter... HA! i kid...18:30
R^7Z:p18:30
R^7Zdude arrghhh... I'm surprised you didn't have a mental meltdown earlier with all them noobz... :p18:31
arrrghhhbzo: yea but does that mean it wasn't working before at all..?18:32
bzonothing new, he distributed everything needed to make stuff work as it should18:32
arrrghhhhuh18:34
arrrghhhok18:34
R^7Zsmall potatoes?18:34
R^7Zso like heres my question18:40
R^7Zif people are getting to the packages but not understanding the process, whats to help them get to an understanding?18:41
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arrrghhhbacon18:41
stinebdbzo: i'm not able to get video recording working in gingerbread with what he sent. it's probably related to missing encoders.18:42
R^7Zwell obviously, bacon18:42
bzostinebd: the libs he sent you didn't work?18:42
stinebdhe provided a vendor/qcom tree (presumably from cm or codeaurora) with opencore libs but opencore is gone in gingerbread18:43
arrrghhhOo18:43
stinebdso we need stagefright encoders18:43
R^7Zruh roh raggy18:43
bzowell damn, guess porting video recording to gb won't be a freebie18:44
stinebdalso mediaservice is crashing during scans with his changes. i've yet to investigate the cause.18:44
R^7ZI get stagefright every now and then... does that count? ;)18:44
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bzostinebd: are you going to release a frx05?18:46
Aks_happy to report everythings working in order18:46
stinebdbzo: maybe18:46
stinebdfree time is becoming a big problem18:46
R^7Zyay!18:46
R^7Zwhich are you using aks_?18:46
R^7Zfroyo or gingerbread?18:47
Aks_rhod40018:47
Aks_GB18:47
R^7Zah... fast, is it not?18:47
Aks_yep18:47
arrrghhh:D18:47
Aks_n slikc UI18:47
Aks_slick*18:47
R^7Zjust watch out for that curve! :p18:47
R^7Zoh! too late... ^_^18:48
Aks_:P18:48
R^7Zyou get wifi working yet?18:48
Aks_will try at home18:48
Aks_in an hr or so18:48
R^7Zgood deal18:48
Aks_will test GPS while driving home18:49
manekinekoGPS doesn't work yet in GRX0A18:50
R^7Zdidn't think so...18:50
R^7Znetloc is removed, right?18:51
arrrghhhno GPS18:51
arrrghhhnetloc never worked for CDMA18:51
manekinekoright, no location services whatsoever, not just no GPS18:51
R^7Zoh... rhod400, right18:51
manekinekoso no wifi location either18:51
R^7Zbut you can still connect to wifi because I was able to...18:51
manekinekoyeah, wifi works fine for me18:52
R^7Zor is that just kind of device dependent?18:52
R^7Zbc stine said his was iffy18:52
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R^7Zi noticed it more in froyo but i haven't had wifi crap out on me once... course i could be jinxing myself... :p18:53
natemcnuttystinebd: you there?18:53
stinebdyeah18:53
arrrghhhi thought ti had an issue where if you flip it off you cant flip it back on.18:53
R^7Zstine says yes18:54
natemcnuttysweet18:54
natemcnuttymount --bind /data/modules /lib/modules18:54
R^7Zbut well... i guess im just undecided18:54
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R^7Z:p18:54
natemcnuttyis in rootfs, but we don't need that if we are skipping rootfs right?18:54
natemcnuttyonly care about /system/lib/modules18:54
stinebdright18:54
natemcnuttyand because I've been curious for a while now. Why do we use --bind instead of ln?18:55
stinebdbzo: what do you know about arm asm?18:55
bzonot a ton18:55
stinebdnatemcnutty: in that case, it's just a preference. generally we'd use bindmounts where the destination filesystem is not read-write18:56
stinebdi've got a sigbus on an ldr instruction18:56
stinebdin an asm file18:56
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bzothat is loading a register from an address in another register18:57
bzoI guess the loaded address is bad18:57
stinebdi think arm changed ldr behavior after armv518:58
bzoand there are a number of options on the instruction18:58
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rpierce99dude arrrghhh some guy in your GB thread just asked you for the wpa_supplicant.conf WITH THE PASSWORDS IN IT19:44
rpierce99some people are beyond help19:44
arrrghhhlmao19:44
arrrghhhgenius19:45
arrrghhhi'm not a mod19:45
arrrghhhi can't change his posts...19:45
arrrghhhi can just point out that's probably dumb.19:45
jonpryhow does android get the battery info?19:46
* rpierce99 is lost19:47
rpierce99why would you edit his post?19:47
arrrghhhto remove the password?19:47
rpierce99no19:47
arrrghhhi dunno why are you telling me?19:47
rpierce99he wants you to give him the file, with the password in it19:48
arrrghhhOo19:48
arrrghhhmisread what you said19:48
jonprywhats the big deal. can't people just aircrack it?19:48
rpierce99no he's just dumb and doesn't realize that it's his own password19:48
arrrghhhlol19:48
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oddzlol19:49
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rpierce99arrrghhh: for you http://theoatmeal.com/comics/angry_birds19:52
arrrghhh...19:54
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rpierce99because you love angry birds so much19:56
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rpierce99ok i can't be this dumb20:21
arrrghhhoh can't you?20:23
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RUZOALGUIEN Q ABLE ESPANOL20:23
rpierce99i have a ms core fonts installer EULA up in my linux vm and i can't click ok20:24
arrrghhhNO20:24
arrrghhhWE SPEAKY THE ENGLISH20:24
rpierce99enter, esc, etc20:24
arrrghhhrpierce99: tab, space20:24
rpierce99ok so i am that dumb20:24
arrrghhhlol20:24
rpierce99tab enter worked too20:24
arrrghhh:P20:24
rpierce99wth does tab do20:24
arrrghhhah20:24
arrrghhhi usually use space20:24
arrrghhhmoves to the actual time20:24
arrrghhhyes/no isn't selected by default20:24
arrrghhhnothing is AFAIK20:25
rpierce99oh it moved from the scrollbar to the ok button20:25
arrrghhhjava is the same way20:25
arrrghhhyea20:25
arrrghhhi assume you don't have X on the server?20:25
arrrghhher vm20:25
rpierce99i don't know, i just installed ubuntu 10.420:25
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rpierce99and then a crapton of apt-gets20:25
arrrghhhserver edition?20:26
rpierce99no20:26
arrrghhhhuh20:26
rpierce99if by X you mean do I have a GUI, then yes20:26
arrrghhhi dunno20:28
arrrghhhi just work here20:28
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rpierce99holy cow it's building, anyone want to put money on whether it actually works?20:32
arrrghhhwhat are you doing?20:34
rpierce99trying to build xdandroid20:35
F22hmmm...first htc android cdma world phone announced.20:36
F22a little late...20:36
F22but better late then never i suppose.20:36
arrrghhhrpierce99: vanilla system image?20:36
arrrghhhF22: not sure the RIL will help20:36
rpierce99vanilla as in I haven't personally changed anything20:37
arrrghhhindeed20:37
arrrghhhjust from the repo20:37
arrrghhhgb or froyo?20:37
rpierce99froyo20:37
arrrghhhnice20:38
rpierce99i'm only expecting it to fail because I couldn't get some of the recommended apt-gets20:38
arrrghhhlolwut20:39
rpierce99some of them say the package couldn't be found20:39
arrrghhhsuck20:39
Murasaki.20:41
rpierce99whoa20:41
rpierce99you're back20:41
MurasakiLol20:41
arrrghhhstill freezing?20:41
MurasakiYep. Deleted.20:42
arrrghhhlol20:42
arrrghhhthe whole thing?20:42
MurasakiMmhm, wiping my computer clean of xda nonsense and starting "fresh" for once instead of overwriting 50 times.20:43
arrrghhhlol20:43
arrrghhhok20:43
rpierce99 /golfclap20:43
arrrghhhi don't get why it's freezing20:43
arrrghhhperhaps a good ole format of the cart20:43
arrrghhhcard*20:43
arrrghhhusing the HP tool20:43
Murasaki *Shrug*20:43
arrrghhhdamn rpierce99 and his golf references20:43
rpierce99i'm gonna go with old crap + partial new crap = bad20:43
arrrghhhrpierce99: we started over fresh20:43
arrrghhhwith frx0420:44
rpierce99isn't that what she just said she's going to do20:44
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arrrghhhon her computer20:44
MurasakiGoing back to the other froyo build since it doesn't freeze me, then I'll slowly upgrade it to early February20:45
Murasakihttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=50949320:45
arrrghhhthat works20:45
arrrghhhi don't know what could be freezing it at this point to be honest20:45
MurasakiGoing to give it a chance to update since.. all the files I'm downloading now20:45
MurasakiAre from August, if not earlier.20:45
rpierce99Murasaki: just make sure to start with the 2nd newest rootfs20:46
MurasakiYeh.20:46
rpierce99if you stick with the stock rootfs you'll get the major sluggish20:46
MurasakiI'm not doing 24 yet.20:46
MurasakiWhat others are there?20:46
rpierce99http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/20:47
MurasakiI thought those were stock, unless you're talking about something else..20:47
MurasakiIdk. I just started this 3 days ago and people talk to me like I've been introduced to it for 2 years.20:48
rpierce99no i'm saying don't use the rootfs included in any bundles except for arrrghhhs bundle20:48
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MurasakiOh.20:48
MurasakiWell that's the site I got the rootfs from anyway20:48
rpierce99good, just continue what you were doing i don't want to confuse you by sending you in multiple directions again20:49
arrrghhhi'm pretty sure she was using my frx04 bundle21:04
arrrghhhwithout any changes21:04
arrrghhhand it was freezing at the lock screen21:04
rpierce99you mean that was the result after you went pm for a while? because she wasn't getting that far before21:05
arrrghhhindeed21:05
arrrghhhwhat's ironic is the room went dead silent as soon as we started the PM21:05
arrrghhhlol21:05
rpierce99i don't think that word means what you think it means21:06
rpierce99lol21:06
rpierce99</princess bride reference>21:06
arrrghhhwth?21:06
arrrghhhprivate message/21:06
rpierce99ironic21:06
stinebdarrrghhh still around?21:07
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arrrghhhperhaps21:09
Murasaki_Eh?21:09
arrrghhhMurasaki_: Murasaki two of you?21:10
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Murasaki_Had an error21:12
arrrghhhnice21:12
arrrghhhyou can go back to your old nick21:12
Murasaki_Doesn't bother me that much21:12
rpierce99arrrghhh is on nick patrol today21:13
Murasaki_xD21:13
* arrrghhh is always on patrol21:16
NautisHi, I loaded xdandroid on my phone and now my tv is broken :D21:19
arrrghhhlol21:19
Nautisfun day eh?21:20
phhmine is waaaaaaayyy better21:20
phhworking on a robot, mostly everything got broken yesterday or today :D21:21
Nautisskynet?21:21
phhnot yet, just eurobot21:21
Nautisthat might mean I have traveled to the wrong year?!21:24
Murasaki_Pierce?21:25
rpierce99yo21:25
Murasaki_What was that bit of coding you gave me earlier?21:25
rpierce99 /confused21:26
Murasaki_To replace rel_path21:26
rpierce99oh pm.sleep_mode=121:26
rpierce99but if you're using arrrghhhs stuff it's already in there21:26
Murasaki_Testing others21:27
Murasaki_Whats it do?21:27
rpierce99tells the phone to power down some extra stuff in sleep, saves battery, prevents the phone from sleeping and not waking up21:27
Murasaki_Nice21:27
rpierce99only should be used on newish kernels though21:28
Murasaki_Kay21:28
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Nautishmm possible snow in bay area, blashpemy21:29
* rpierce99 lives in minneSNOWta21:29
rpierce99snow drifts above the mailboxes21:30
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Murasaki_Why the quietness?21:54
rpierce99this is how it normally is21:54
rpierce99you caught madness earlier21:54
Murasaki_Fail21:54
Murasaki_Some chat room :c21:54
rpierce99random chit-chat is frowned upon21:54
rpierce99tends to make support harder, as you saw earlier trying to keep up21:55
Murasaki_How about app sharing? What do you fancy on your android?21:55
crispeeit's fixed!21:55
Nautisthis is the get things done chat21:55
rpierce99Nautis: this one is 2nd to #htc-linux, stuff was flying so fast earlier I couldn't make heads or tails of any of it, not just fast but complicated21:56
Murasaki_Should I upgrade everything at once?21:57
rpierce99it's working currently?21:57
bear_Crispee> what is fixed?21:57
Murasaki_I did the rootfs alone, and it seems to be hanging.21:57
crispeethe screen jumping around on raph80021:57
rpierce99rootfs is breaking your build?21:57
NautisI saw that.. its fun when there are three different development convos going on.21:57
Murasaki_I think so.. and I used 2-1021:57
rpierce99where does it stop?21:57
Murasaki_No, it's not. I had a headache21:58
Murasaki_Do you want literally where it stops? Its all white text..21:58
crispeebear_: i've been using it with the fudged screen for a couple weeks now, then upgraded to 20110222 and it's gone :)21:58
rpierce99Murasaki_: how about the last unique line, the last one that doesn't appear over and over again21:58
rpierce99specifically anything relating to rootfs21:58
bear_Awesome, ya i was having trouble getting droid to run and with the chat help got it resolved21:59
Murasaki_Ah, it just scrolled some when I was staring21:59
Murasaki_I think I just have to let it run..21:59
Murasaki_But idk when its supposed to stop21:59
rpierce99what line did it push just now?21:59
Murasaki_Can I upgrade each thing alone?21:59
Murasaki_It pushed up something about bluetooth21:59
rpierce99some things have dependancies on other things, but for the most part you can22:00
Murasaki_Well the rootfs in general?22:00
rpierce99as far as I know there are things that depend on rootfs, but nothing that rootfs depends on, but I could be wrong22:00
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Murasaki_I see a line that says failed to find rootfs on SD card22:01
Murasaki_is this because I gave it an extension like you said?22:01
arrrghhhMurasaki_: that's the rel_path error22:01
arrrghhhbasically22:01
arrrghhhassuming there is a rootfs.img where you are running haret.exe from22:02
rpierce99or rootfs was not renamed properly22:02
arrrghhhthat too22:02
Murasaki_mm22:02
Murasaki_Is it okay that rootfs is named "rootfs.img" like he told me to?22:02
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rpierce99Murasaki_: you unzipped it first right?22:03
Murasaki_I'm asking if I shouldn't have put the extension of .img on rootfs after you told me to22:03
rpierce99Murasaki_: and I'm asking if you unzipped the file that you downloaded22:03
arrrghhhheh probably renamed the zip22:04
arrrghhhrename it back to .zip22:04
arrrghhhand extract it22:04
rpierce99you should not be renaming the .zip to .img22:04
Murasaki_No I didnt..22:04
arrrghhhrename that resulting file to rootfs.img22:04
Murasaki_.. The file was already a disk img22:04
Murasaki_He told me to specifically name it "rootfs.img"22:04
arrrghhhwell then it should be good22:04
arrrghhhafter extracting it22:04
rpierce99you said you got it from http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/   -- those are zipped22:04
crispeearrrghhh: i think i may have closed bug 80 hope thats alright22:05
xdandroidBug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=80 normal, Normal, ---, developers, RESOLVED FIXED, Screen Alignment22:05
arrrghhhah right22:05
arrrghhhhopefully it stays fixed22:05
crispeeit's working now22:05
crispeei hpe so22:05
Murasaki_Like I'm not a complete idiot, I've been using winrar since I was 13 -_-22:05
crispeecheers22:05
bear_My module  is from 2/10, Rootfs is from 2/10,  zimage is 2/10 initrd is from 2/12 is there an updated version for the Rhod50022:06
Murasaki_I'm asking you if I should NOT have .img on the rootfs disk img you told me to rename22:06
crispeeMurasaki_: and now you're 13.5?22:06
Murasaki_I'm 19, thanks..22:06
rpierce99the file absolutely must be called rootfs.img22:06
rpierce99Murasaki_: are you running windows?22:06
Murasaki_On my computer, yes..22:06
crispeedidn't someone mention the rel_path??22:07
rpierce99do you know if you have the option to "show the extension for known file types" turned on or off22:07
rpierce99crispee: this was working until she updated rootfs afaik22:07
Murasaki_No I do not know22:07
crispeeah22:07
rpierce99what version of windows?22:07
Murasaki_What was working was files from August of last year22:07
Murasaki_I was told to update, so, I am22:08
Murasaki_Windows 722:08
crispeeyikes22:08
Murasaki_Using whatever Froyo 2.2 build ReWind posted beneath HTC Topaz22:08
rpierce99Murasaki_: can you do this for me? http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Show-or-hide-file-name-extensions22:10
crispeedoes the htc topaz have winmo on it?22:10
crispeeyou should be able to see the extension there22:10
crispeemake sure it's not something like rootfs.img.rar.txt.zip.mp3.wtf22:11
crispee:)22:11
rpierce99that's what i'm worried about, specifically rootfs.img.img22:11
arrrghhh.wtf lol22:12
Murasaki_Wish you verified with me earlier22:12
Murasaki_I hide my extensions22:12
bear_stupid question but is anyone working on trying to get bluetooth working on the rhod50022:12
arrrghhhheh22:12
Murasaki_So yes, its now rootfs.img.img22:13
arrrghhhbear_: patches welcome22:13
arrrghhhMurasaki_: Oo22:13
crispee:O22:13
Murasaki_Now I have to start over for the umpteenth time22:13
rpierce99no, just fix that file name22:13
crispeelol just rename the file22:13
arrrghhhindeed22:13
arrrghhhjust rename it22:13
arrrghhhrootfs.img22:13
arrrghhhdrop the extra .img22:13
crispeeren rootfs.img.img rootfs.img22:13
crispee:P22:13
bear_I wish i knew what i was doing about developing the files,22:13
bear_otherwise I would contribute,22:14
rpierce99holy crap, i have a system.img22:14
stinebdarrrghhh22:14
bear_I am sorry,22:14
crispeehaha22:14
arrrghhhstinebd22:14
stinebdoh22:14
stinebdi mean22:14
stinebdangerrrr22:14
bear_why angerrrr?22:14
arrrghhhlol22:14
stinebdwifi failing for no reason22:15
stinebdhave to reboot22:15
crispeeoh you get that too?22:15
stinebdtrying to test a possible gapps fix22:15
bear_ok just wanted to make sure u were not angry with me22:15
bear_lol,22:15
crispeehaha22:15
crispeei'm out p's22:15
stinebdarrrghhh: i have a question about cdma networks22:15
arrrghhhthey are awesome22:16
arrrghhhthey keep me warm at night22:16
stinebdhow come i get a network identifier and signal bars but no service on this sprint phone22:16
arrrghhhcan you make phone calls?22:16
stinebdno service22:16
arrrghhhi think it'll do that, but if the phone isn't registered on the network it won't actually work.22:16
stinebdlame22:17
arrrghhhyou shouldn't get a data cxn either.22:17
stinebdi thought i got a freebie or something22:17
stinebdright22:17
arrrghhhyea, that's expected.22:17
bear_Spoof the esn22:17
arrrghhhradio still functions.22:17
arrrghhhyea, that's not legal22:17
stinebdstrange22:17
stinebdi guess it makes sense though22:17
stinebdthe phone is tied to the network22:17
stinebdnot like on gsm where you can use it on different networks22:18
stinebdwell that didn't work22:19
bear_I like how with GSM you can switch the Sim and everything is alright,22:19
stinebdsigh22:19
bear_but I have always been on CDMA22:19
Murasaki_That was outrageously fast. The rootfs seems to work now22:20
arrrghhhcool22:20
Murasaki_About to go for the kernel22:20
Murasaki_Gonna see if this freezes up first22:21
bear_Are these the most updated versions? : My module  is from 2/10, Rootfs is from 2/10,  zimage is 2/10 initrd is from 2/12 is there an updated version for the Rhod50022:21
bear_or has there been an update since?22:21
arrrghhhcheck xdandroid.com22:22
arrrghhhseems you're a little behind22:22
arrrghhhalthough don't grab the newest rootfs22:22
arrrghhhit's dun been busted22:22
stinebdson of a bitch22:22
stinebdIt's an issue with JIT. Gingerbread doesn't seem to like being run without JIT for some reason. I had to re-enable it. However, you can't change that on the current release (just by changing on build.prop) because I'm actually forcing no-JIT.22:23
stinebdthat... would suck.22:23
arrrghhhwhat the issue?22:24
stinebdgapps22:24
arrrghhhthe gapps thing?22:24
arrrghhhfawk22:24
stinebdgod damn jit22:24
stinebdwe can't win22:24
stinebdi hope he's wrong22:24
arrrghhhso can we figure out what the issue with JIT is?22:24
arrrghhhother than not being supported on our chipset.22:25
arrrghhhlol ^^22:25
arrrghhhmake it work stinebd22:25
Murasaki_Is there a newer initrd?22:25
stinebdwut22:25
stinebdwell arrrghhh sorry to disappoint you but i won't have a release tonight22:26
stinebdhopefully tomorrow22:26
bear_Do I need to Remove the _20110222_203532 on the zImage22:26
stinebdi really can't be up too late tonight though because i have work and i'm sick enough as it is22:26
rpierce99Murasaki_: There probably is but I've never updated mine22:27
Counterfeituhmm zImage should be just that, zImage. I believe.22:27
rpierce99bear_: yeah just zImage22:28
rpierce99capital I22:28
arrrghhhstinebd: np22:28
bear_ty22:28
rpierce99bear_: it shouldn't have a file type either22:28
arrrghhhMurasaki_: no newer initrd since like august22:28
bear_and remove the .gz at the end of  modules22:28
bear_it does not22:28
rpierce99if you're in windows it should just say it's a "file22:28
bear_it does22:28
bear_if not i know how to mod it through a cmd promt22:28
rpierce99bear_: modules should be a .tar.gz22:28
rpierce99and don't rename it22:28
bear_ok wont thank you for clarifying22:29
stinebdsee now she's being falsely led22:29
stinebdi've been considering getting a webcam and streaming my rage-driven development practices22:30
arrrghhhlol22:31
bear_LoL almost like a reactions video22:31
arrrghhhno rage drives the code22:31
Nautisthat explains a lot :D22:32
Murasaki_Everything's working.22:32
Murasaki_Didnt even take two minutes.22:32
arrrghhhnewest everything?22:32
Murasaki_Yep22:32
arrrghhhlol22:32
arrrghhheven system.ext2?  you're on FRX04?22:32
Murasaki_I'm going to figure out whats wrong with Gen.Y dualboot now22:33
Murasaki_Yes22:33
arrrghhhnice22:33
Murasaki_Its pretty smooth22:33
Nautisdamsel saved?22:33
Murasaki_Hush D:22:33
arrrghhhlol22:33
arrrghhhshe saved herself22:33
* arrrghhh failed22:33
arrrghhhnot sure how or why tho tbh22:33
Murasaki_xD22:33
arrrghhhMurasaki_: do you?22:33
arrrghhhthat's gonna bug me.22:33
arrrghhh:P22:33
Murasaki_Lmao. Do what D:22:34
Murasaki_Save myself?22:34
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arrrghhhno22:34
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arrrghhhwhere did we go wrong22:34
arrrghhhor i22:34
arrrghhhwhatever22:34
Murasaki_Idk honestly..22:34
arrrghhhwhat was f-ed up last time that you did differently where now it's working22:34
arrrghhhdamnit.22:34
arrrghhhi had a feeling you were going to say that :P22:34
Murasaki_I basically just merged both our views.22:34
Murasaki_LOL22:34
arrrghhhheh22:34
Murasaki_Idk.22:34
arrrghhhmeh, no biggie22:34
arrrghhhat least it's working22:34
Murasaki_My way of always getting things done is putting two and two together22:34
Murasaki_Before, I'd be black&white screened for 20 minutes22:35
Murasaki_This took like 30 seconds my way22:35
arrrghhhbleh :P22:35
Murasaki_:D?22:35
stinebdmy way involves throwing things and profanity22:35
arrrghhhnice22:35
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* rpierce99 thinks he needs a better router22:36
arrrghhhif you think that, then you do.22:37
arrrghhhor just ditch charter22:37
arrrghhhlol22:37
rpierce99it's my wireless, it drops when I am upstairs22:37
arrrghhhah22:37
rpierce99maybe a smaller house is what i need22:38
Nautisseems like that would be easier than a router update22:38
rpierce99the problem is i like my router22:38
arrrghhhbut not your house?22:39
rpierce99haha touche22:39
Counterfeitdd-wrt that stuff22:40
Counterfeitturn it into a super router haha.22:40
arrrghhh<3 dd-wrt22:40
arrrghhhIF your router supports it22:40
arrrghhhor if your router is supported by it rather22:40
Counterfeityes :( i've never had a router that it's been supported by22:41
Counterfeitnever had the chance to try it22:41
rpierce99no it's the other way around, the newer WRT54Gs broke DD-WRT support by not having enough flash22:41
arrrghhhheh22:41
arrrghhhi bought a 600n because it's supported well22:41
bear_eh many are have a $20 N 150 Router I was able to put it on it22:41
arrrghhhrpierce99: mini or micro?22:41
rpierce99arrrghhh: i'm sure those were still an option22:42
bear_the mini wrt54 g does not have it I have one laying around that the power supply fried had to solder in a new capacitor22:42
bear_only 1mb storage22:42
rpierce99there's a mini version of the 54gs? i had no idea22:42
arrrghhhrpierce99: depends22:42
bear_If i remember correctly DDWRT requires 4mb22:43
rpierce99doesn't look like my router is on the list22:43
bear_http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1280&bih=896&tbs=isch:1&sa=1&q=wrt54gc&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=f&oq=22:43
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bear_mini 54g22:44
rpierce99oh the GC, forgot about that one22:44
rpierce99after the WRT54GL there weren't any more linksys routers i liked22:44
bear_lol its not a router but I love my dsl modem the Actiontec Q100022:45
Nautistheres also tomato.. I like ddwrt better tho22:45
Nautisim still considering getting a dang nook color22:48
stinebdand at the end of the day i still didnt get to play zelda 222:49
CounterfeitI googled dd-wrt...refreshed a PPC page and there at the top is a google ad "DDWRT Software" lol22:49
stinebdoh well22:49
rpierce99stinebd: zelda 2 was lame, go L2TP or go home22:49
stinebdsacrilege22:50
rpierce99and not THAT L2TP22:50
arrrghhhheh22:50
stinebdzelda 2 is the only one difficult enough to curb my ragequit pangs22:50
stinebdeven ocarina i can do in 8 hours with no fairies22:50
stinebdmaster quest!22:50
rpierce99i probably should keep my mouth shut seeing as how L2TP was the first one I ever played and only one until the one for the wii which has a name that escapes me atm22:51
stinebdtwilight princess22:52
Counterfeityou know your zelda stuff22:52
Nautis50th!22:52
stinebdi know most anything nintendo made22:52
stinebdbig fanboy22:53
Murasaki_*Needs useful apps for droid.*22:53
rpierce99i should probably invest in some wii points and buy some of the newish/oldish zelda games, seeing as how I just finished mass effect 2 and have no games to play22:53
stinebdMurasaki_: there's this app called Market which is really nice22:53
Murasaki_Nowai22:53
rpierce99Murasaki_: use /me needs useful apps for droid22:54
Nautisangry birds :D22:54
Murasaki_Useful, not boring l:22:54
Nautisit teaches the usefull art of slingshoting birds at pigs22:54
Murasaki_xD22:55
Murasaki_I like Alchemy better22:55
Murasaki_But in all legitness. D:22:55
stinebdconnectbot, andchat, tivo remote, congress, k9 mail, saymyname, xda22:55
Murasaki_Useful apps that don't drain my battery to hell. At least something that helps it.22:55
Nautisuh oh22:56
Murasaki_:c?22:56
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rpierce99urbanspoon, yelp, facebook, twitter, clocksync, mint, titanium backup, xda22:57
rpierce99oh yeah and zeam because the default launcher is slow22:58
Murasaki_Zeam O:? Never heard of it22:58
Murasaki_Oh, does anyone have problems syncing facebook to contacts?22:59
Murasaki_Idk how to.22:59
rpierce99apparently it doesn't work22:59
Counterfeityou can't with these builds22:59
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rpierce99i don't even try22:59
Murasaki_Thats lame22:59
CounterfeitI use "FacebookSync" to get the pics22:59
Murasaki_I looked for that and couldnt find it22:59
Murasaki_Is it free?22:59
Counterfeityeah but support stopped or something22:59
CounterfeitI have the apk22:59
Counterfeiti'll upload it to rapidshare or whatever23:00
R^7Zits on the web23:00
CounterfeitYeah I'll look a bit if i can't find it i'll upload23:00
R^7Zhttp://www.androidfreeware.net/get-facebook-sync.html23:00
R^7Zn-Joie!23:00
Counterfeituse the mirror download.23:01
R^7Zffa ^_^23:01
R^7Zanyone else figure out how to get the teleporter to work yet? :p23:02
Murasaki_From my phone or computer?23:02
R^7Zeither or23:02
R^7Zif you download it to your phone23:02
R^7Zit should auto install23:02
R^7Zand if not, download to the computer and put it in the androidapps folder23:03
R^7Zfor auto install23:03
R^7ZOR23:03
R^7Zsubfolder under androidapps and use a file explorer23:03
R^7Zi prefer andexporer23:03
R^7ZOR23:03
R^7Zastro23:03
R^7Zthere was another23:03
R^7Zbut the name escapes my memory at the moment :p23:04
Nautisestrongs file explorer is one23:04
R^7Znah... you need to bundle23:05
R^7Zor they try to make you23:05
R^7Zi prefer another... i'll find it eventually23:05
Murasaki_astro?23:06
R^7Zits a file explorer23:06
R^7Zlink to andexplorer23:06
R^7Zhttp://www.lysesoft.com/products/andexplorer/index.html23:06
R^7Zvery simple file exporer IMHO23:06
R^7Zstupid "l"23:07
R^7ZI kill you!!! :p23:07
R^7ZAdvanced Manager_1.0.5.apk23:08
R^7Zis the name23:08
R^7Zits an all in one23:08
R^7Zyou can manage a few settings23:08
R^7Zbackup apps23:08
R^7Zinstall23:08
R^7Zgood stuff!23:08
R^7Zlemme know if you want a link... im on the hunt23:08
R^7Z:D23:08
Murasaki_Sure O:23:09
Counterfeitlike it better than titanium for backing up?23:09
Counterfeiti'm always looking for an easier way to do that sort of thing with all these different builds :)23:09
R^7Zmeh... i usually dont make that many backups23:09
Counterfeitmmm gotcha.23:10
Murasaki_I only have one build xD I dont care much23:10
R^7Zhttp://www.multiupload.com/4AQ4XAEWJR23:10
R^7Zfile served23:10
R^7Z:)23:10
Murasaki_xD23:11
R^7ZI like it... all that matters to me ;) :p23:11
Murasaki_Need to fix settings on windows mobile23:11
R^7Zby the way23:11
Murasaki_All this powering off23:11
R^7Zbackup i mean apps backup23:11
R^7Zyou'll need to set that under display23:12
Murasaki_Hm23:12
R^7Zshould be a screen timeout setting23:12
R^7Zi set mine to never time out23:12
Murasaki_Yeah23:12
Murasaki_Trying to find it23:12
R^7Zbut then you're stuck with it to turn off manually23:12
R^7Zokay heres whatcha do23:12
Murasaki_Found it xD23:12
R^7Zgood!23:13
R^7Zsave me a few letter :p23:13
Murasaki_:D23:13
R^7Zletters*23:13
R^7Zkind of self-defeating23:13
R^7Z:/23:13
Murasaki_Little bit LOL23:13
Murasaki_But yeah23:13
R^7Zthe story of my life23:13
Murasaki_My phone was set for turn off after a minute23:13
Murasaki_And I forgot to reset it23:14
Murasaki_So when I grab for it I'm like.. wtf23:14
R^7Zyeah... if you want the screen to stay on23:14
Murasaki_I unchecked everything23:14
Murasaki_Ive reset my phone so many times today23:14
R^7Zi set mine to never by downloading batterybooster23:14
R^7Zlink following23:14
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Murasaki_Yep23:14
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R^7Zhttp://downloadandroid.info/products/utility/battery-booster-boost-your-batterys-running-time/23:15
Murasaki_O:23:15
Murasaki_Gimme23:15
R^7Zget it while its hot!23:15
R^7Z:p23:15
R^7Zonce you download and install23:15
Murasaki_Sure it works? xD23:16
R^7Znot for every device23:16
R^7Zi hear-say some it didnt23:16
Murasaki_HTC Pure?23:16
R^7Zno idea23:16
Murasaki_Boo23:16
R^7Zi have an at&t fuze23:16
R^7Zi kno right23:16
Murasaki_:c23:16
R^7Zno reason not to try it23:16
R^7Zhonestly23:17
Murasaki_I bought this phone for 40 bucks xD23:17
R^7Zif it dont work remove it23:17
R^7Zyay!23:17
Murasaki_Missing stylus </323:17
R^7Zthats 100 times less than what i paid for my Fuze23:17
Murasaki_Using an old, dried out fine point sharpie as my stylus23:17
Murasaki_Pretty ghetto23:17
R^7Znah23:17
R^7Zit works23:17
Murasaki_xD23:17
R^7Zif it works23:17
R^7Z;)23:17
Murasaki_So.. Zeam23:18
Murasaki_Need to find that23:18
R^7Zyup23:18
R^7Zhold on a sec23:18
Murasaki_Do you prefer it over launcher pro?23:18
R^7Zmeh23:18
R^7Zabout 50/5023:18
R^7Zi like lp+ for the widgets23:18
R^7Zbut zeam is boos23:18
R^7Zmoss*23:19
R^7Zoops23:19
R^7Zfail twice23:19
R^7Zshould i try a third?23:19
R^7Z:p23:19
Counterfeit<3 launcherpro23:19
R^7Zzeam is very light weight but no longer under development23:19
Counterfeitthe little dock bar is sweet.23:19
R^7Zi like the idea though...23:19
Counterfeitgranted the others ahve it - i just like launcherpros better23:19
R^7Zdeveloper is getting his rl in order23:19
rpierce99for me fast > widgets23:19
Murasaki_I think launcher pro is pretty cute23:20
Nautislauncher pro agreed.. zeem seems a bit to stripped for me23:20
R^7Zso yeah.... linky23:21
Counterfeitmy new love: quick settings. yum. had used widgetsoid 2.x...then kept hearing great things about it so i switched23:21
R^7Zhttp://www.multiupload.com/P7CDYR07A723:21
R^7Zget it while its hot! :D23:21
Counterfeitwhat apk is that?23:21
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R^7Zzeam23:21
Counterfeitahh yes. gracias.23:21
R^7Znp23:21
R^7Zall these are free to download and to use23:22
R^7Zbt the way23:22
R^7Zby*23:22
R^7Zbrb... need more water23:22
R^7Z:p23:22
Murasaki_Finally23:22
Murasaki_Unlocking my screen is SO much easier now23:22
R^7Z:)23:23
R^7Zalso i use pattern lock23:23
R^7Zthe little slide lock is nice but me likey patternz23:23
R^7Z^_23:23
Murasaki_I was using files from august, lolol. Effed my droid up so bad, I wanted to show my phone23:23
R^7Zwoops23:23
Murasaki_And with the use of this in my startup: Button wake up board-htcraphael-navi.wake=X  0 = screen only wakes on power button 1 = wakes on any keypress23:23
Murasaki_Unlocking is a dream23:23
arrrghhhTP2Which one did you pick?23:24
Murasaki_123:24
R^7Zthere was talk of having stylus to unlock23:24
arrrghhhTP2Yea I was 123:24
R^7Zbut that was a pipe dream, i suppose?23:24
arrrghhhTP2I wonder if I still have it23:24
arrrghhhTP2Probably not23:24
Murasaki_The button wake?23:25
R^7Zif only i could upload it to multiupload23:25
R^7Z:p23:25
Murasaki_xD23:25
Murasaki_YESSSSS23:25
Murasaki_All my contacts savedddd23:25
R^7Zwoot!23:25
Murasaki_I could hump android right now23:25
R^7Zwhoa whoa whoa23:25
Murasaki_I thought I lost EVERYONE even after I edited everyone23:25
Murasaki_That would have pissed me off so bad xD23:25
R^7Zgetting all crazy wit the cheese whiz23:26
Murasaki_LOL23:26
R^7Zwise man say: better to be pissed off than pissed on...23:26
R^7Z^_^23:26
R^7Zunless you're one of "those" people...23:26
R^7Z:/23:26
Nautisrkelly?23:27
Murasaki_Lolol23:27
R^7Zwhoa....23:27
R^7Ztrue but whoa23:27
R^7Zgettin all nasty up in hurr,,,23:28
Murasaki_My ex tried to pull an Rkelly as a joke23:28
Murasaki_His life was nearly altered that day.23:28
R^7Zo,k...23:28
Murasaki_He was just weird that way23:28
R^7Zyeah... about that...23:28
Murasaki_Anyway. Android apps!23:28
R^7Zyup23:28
stinebdbuddy holly ben hurr space monkey mafia hula hoops castro edsel is a no go23:28
R^7Zwhat else you lookin for?23:29
R^7Z:)23:29
R^7ZI might just have it23:29
R^7Z:p23:29
Murasaki_xD23:29
R^7Zi go ape crazy over apps23:29
Nautisstine didnt start the fire23:29
R^7ZMurasaki_: you should check out a site called mobilisim.org23:30
Nautisor were those app suggestions :)23:30
R^7Zthey have ton of apps for android!23:30
Murasaki_My phone appears to have frozen after sending a text. Wtf ):23:30
R^7Zofc you'll need a username and all that jazz23:30
R^7Zhmmm...23:31
R^7Zthat is actually beyond me...23:31
R^7Zi mainly only use android for a few minutes a day... seems the battery cant quite take the beating :p23:31
Murasaki_Well it uses up 100%, doesnt it23:32
R^7Zso i try to refrain from anything much else23:32
R^7Zit varries23:32
R^7Zi think battery usage is dependent on cpu usage23:32
R^7Zi try to have the advanced manager to kill all apps not included in the ignore list after a screen off23:33
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stinebdstill crashes with jit23:33
R^7Zblah...23:34
R^7Zdamn jit23:34
R^7ZI kill you!23:34
* R^7Z stabs jit23:34
R^7Zha!23:34
R^7Zyou wont be crashing anymore now! :p23:34
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R^7Zso i was thinking about creating my own build environment... i heard that only the 64 bit version of ubuntu to pull from git. is this correct?23:38
R^7Zmissed a word or two... heh23:38
arrrghhhTP2Not true23:38
arrrghhhTP2Doesn't matter23:39
R^7Zgood!23:39
R^7Zme thinks im gunna make my ubuntu box... err drive... errr whatever23:39
bzoyou need 64bit to build gb23:39
R^7Zah...23:39
R^7Zso gb being system image?23:39
R^7Zor???23:39
bzogingerbread23:40
arrrghhhTP2Orly23:40
arrrghhhTP2Did not know that bzo23:40
bzoyeah, I was pissed off after creating a brand new 32bit vm23:40
arrrghhhTP2Cuz of the new toolchain?23:40
R^7Zright but building gingerbread... do you mean like the system.ext2 images we have for xdandroid?23:40
R^7Zor....?23:40
bzonot sure, just some restriction google started23:40
arrrghhhTP2R23:41
arrrghhhTP2Er23:41
bzoand of course you don't figure this out until you've pulled everything down, and setup the build env23:41
R^7Zha23:41
R^7Zwell... see23:41
arrrghhhTP2R^7Z: yes system image?23:41
R^7Zi had no intentions of doing the be23:41
R^7Zbe=build environment23:41
bzoand you need a recent linux version because of dependencies on libs23:41
R^7Zbut i was over-looking the logs23:41
R^7Zand seemed as if someone was expecting the users to have at the very least a kernel build environment? or maybe i misread???23:42
R^7Zrecent meaning 10.10?23:42
R^7Zfor ubuntu23:42
R^7Zwhich is what i have23:43
R^7Zbut i stuck with the 32bit b/c there were rumors that 64 was a bit unstable at the time...23:43
Murasaki_Does anyone know if Cyanogenmod works for Topaz?23:43
R^7Zprobably but we dont support it23:43
bzoI think 10.04 and better will work23:44
Murasaki_:c23:44
R^7Zso like 10.04 is later or earlier than 10.10?23:44
R^7Zi was thinking later...23:44
R^7Zbut hell what do i know :p23:44
arrrghhhTP2Lol.23:44
arrrghhhTP210.10 is the latest23:44
R^7Zgotcha23:44
arrrghhhTP211.04 is comin soon23:44
arrrghhhTP2It's year.month btw23:45
R^7Zpfft23:45
R^7Zi aint budgin23:45
arrrghhhTP210.04 is LTS23:45
R^7Zyea... thats what i hear23:45
arrrghhhTP2Indeed23:45
R^7Zi have live CD but...23:45
R^7Zi might just jump to an upgrade when it comes out...23:45
R^7Zwho knows>23:45
* R^7Z says in a dark voice: THE SHADOW KNOWS!!!!!23:46
R^7Z:o23:46
R^7Zoy!23:46
R^7Zi like the fact that i can boot win7 or ubuntu OR unmount my ext hd and just stick with win723:47
R^7Zthe only thing i dont like is that i have to boot with my ext hd23:48
R^7Z:/23:48
Counterfeitmm not to be all offtopic and such..i searched on PPC geeks and the XDA faq..anyone have firefox mobile working with any build?23:48
R^7Zits called fenec23:49
R^7Zor something like that23:49
R^7Zit was running23:49
R^7Zi thought?23:49
R^7Zbeen a minute or two since i've been inside the fuzedroid23:50
rpierce99i just build my own kernel, modules, and system image, does anyone think this thing will actually boot? not I!23:51
rpierce99wow power off actually powered off, that like never happens23:51
R^7Zofc it will as long as you did it the right way... :D23:51
rpierce99R^7Z: that's the part that I don't believe23:52
R^7Zwas it not supposed to?23:52
Murasaki_Hm.. Cant find an app I just downloaded23:52
rpierce99no it always reboots for me23:52
Murasaki_Strange23:52
R^7Zinteresting23:52
R^7Zto both23:52
R^7Z:p23:52
R^7Zwhat are you attempting to locate and mine usually screens off23:52
R^7Zbut then again i'm not really using a custome build... :D :p23:53
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rpierce99R^7Z: messages to two different people should usually be on two different lines :)23:53
R^7Zblah... standards23:53
R^7Zlmao23:53
Murasaki_Circle Launcher23:53
Murasaki_Its in my downloads23:53
Murasaki_But I can't find it23:53
R^7Zhmmm...23:53
stinebdlol i'm such a23:53
R^7Znot in the app drawer?23:54
R^7Zstine... are you responsible?23:54
R^7Z:p23:54
Counterfeityeahh knew it was fennec but that doesn't show up at ppc either :( i'll sure xda23:54
R^7Zcounterfeit: lemme check23:54
Murasaki_Cant find it23:54
R^7Zi had a download once upon a time23:54
Murasaki_But my phone is so smooth23:55
R^7Z:)23:55
rpierce99Murasaki_: if it's a launcher, it doesn't show up in the app drawer23:55
R^7Zwell zeam down23:55
R^7Zdoes*23:55
rpierce99unless you have disabled the prompt, you can hit home and it will ask which one to use23:55
Murasaki_I dont see it anywhere is what I said..23:55
R^7Zand it definitly is a a launcher23:56
Counterfeitlauncherpro doesn't show in the drawer.23:56
rpierce99zeam doesn't show up in my zeam app drawer :)23:56
R^7Zit sure doesnt23:56
Counterfeithomeswitcher will help23:56
R^7Z:p23:56
Counterfeitif that's what you were trying haha23:56
rpierce99isn't there somewhere in settings to re-enable the dialog of which launcher to use?23:56
Counterfeityes. under like manage applications23:57
Counterfeiti'll look23:57
Murasaki_I think I know where it is23:57
Murasaki_Gimme a sec23:57
Counterfeitrace is on23:57
Murasaki_Redownloading the app xD23:57
Counterfeitsettings - manage apps -23:58
Counterfeitthen whatever launcher23:58
Murasaki_Yeah its in my downloads23:58
Counterfeityou can choose to 'clear defaults' which'll make it not launch by default23:58
Murasaki_But what I failed to understand23:58
Murasaki_Is that its a widget23:58
Murasaki_Not an app that syncs23:58
R^7Zruh roh raggy23:58
R^7Zmurasaki_ +1 fail! :D :p23:59
Murasaki_Shhhh23:59
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