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dingbat | would improving xdandroid's graphics handling involve writing a display driver from scratch | 00:53 |
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MassStash | prolly | 01:04 |
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dingbat | how did this pan out, where a bounty for msm7200 drivers was offered? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351986 | 01:52 |
hyc | display driver? what are you trying to accomplish? | 02:05 |
dingbat | was thinking of pursuing that to resolve the graphics issues xdandroid has for the msm7x chips | 02:14 |
dingbat | seems like an uphill battle | 02:15 |
hyc | very likely. | 02:15 |
hyc | they're pretty outdated chips anyway, what do you really expect from them | 02:15 |
hyc | smartphones today have 4x the RAM and 2-4x the CPU speed | 02:16 |
hyc | what graphics issues does xdandroid have? | 02:16 |
dingbat | a lot of tests fail when OpenGL 3D Showcase is used on an msm7x device running xdandroid | 02:18 |
hyc | do they succeed on a G1? | 02:19 |
dingbat | msm7x devices that have a stock android setup pass those tests however | 02:20 |
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dingbat | that's based on http://pastebin.com/v4WbAsau | 02:22 |
dingbat | might not need a rewrite after all | 02:23 |
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manekineko | dingbat, I don't think it's a driver issue | 02:24 |
manekineko | I think it must be something else | 02:25 |
manekineko | if you look at this thread | 02:25 |
manekineko | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=899801 | 02:25 |
manekineko | they recently stuck this opengles 1.1 driver on the Hero that they dug up somewhere | 02:25 |
manekineko | and using those driver binaries, all tests pass for them on the Hero apparently | 02:26 |
manekineko | but using those we still get force closes and unimplemented function errors | 02:26 |
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hyc | I'm running that opengles 1.1 library on my G1 now | 02:27 |
manekineko | how do those tests look on yours? | 02:27 |
hyc | still got those unimplemented function errors on gemrb | 02:27 |
hyc | I'm just running thru the Showcase now on my G1 | 02:28 |
hyc | so far everything looks fine | 02:28 |
manekineko | try downloading OpenGl 3d Showcase | 02:28 |
manekineko | test 17 causes unimplemented function errors | 02:28 |
manekineko | test 18 causes a force close | 02:28 |
hyc | ok, not there yet | 02:28 |
manekineko | but I got a reply from someone, last reply in that thread | 02:28 |
hyc | just ran 11 | 02:29 |
manekineko | that said ran the apk no errors | 02:29 |
manekineko | that was on a Hero it sounds like | 02:29 |
hyc | test17 ran, not sure if it generated errors. will checl in a moment | 02:32 |
hyc | test18 FC'd | 02:32 |
manekineko | hmm sounds pretty similar | 02:32 |
manekineko | wonder why it would work on the Hero | 02:32 |
manekineko | wonder if that guy that replied to me in the thread was credible | 02:32 |
hyc | test19 FC'd after I restarted | 02:33 |
hyc | mebbe they're RAM-dependent | 02:33 |
manekineko | hmm does the Hero have more RAM than the G1? | 02:34 |
manekineko | 288MB RAM on Hero | 02:34 |
manekineko | same on TP2 | 02:34 |
hyc | yes G1 is only 192MB | 02:34 |
manekineko | there don't seem to be any significant differences with the TP2 and Hero | 02:37 |
manekineko | hmm | 02:37 |
manekineko | Hero is much lower resolution | 02:37 |
manekineko | but so is the G1 | 02:37 |
hyc | is it also 480x320? | 02:37 |
hyc | yeah | 02:37 |
manekineko | yeah | 02:37 |
manekineko | well, if this affects the G1 equally | 02:38 |
manekineko | I'm going to go ahead and say that the user that replied to me didn't know what they were talking about | 02:38 |
manekineko | wonder where this driver came from originally anyway? it was pretty mysterious in that post | 02:41 |
dingbat | manekineko, did you try that ro.opengles.version=131072 bit? | 02:41 |
manekineko | nope | 02:41 |
hyc | why would you even try? | 02:41 |
manekineko | only bumped it up to 65537 | 02:41 |
hyc | the hardware doesn't support it | 02:41 |
manekineko | well, that guy that replied to me said it enabled 3D maps in GMaps for him | 02:42 |
manekineko | dingbat you should try it and report back | 02:42 |
hyc | logcat shows an illegal argument | 02:42 |
manekineko | on the force close? | 02:42 |
hyc | yeah | 02:42 |
manekineko | yeah, I saw that too | 02:42 |
manekineko | made me think it was a code error in our project | 02:42 |
hyc | and I have a lot of low memory messages in my log | 02:43 |
hyc | could be both of those together on the G1 anyway | 02:43 |
dingbat | was pretty close to selling the touch pro | 02:44 |
hyc | hmmm. says something about eglCreateContext(Native Method) | 02:45 |
hyc | I wonder if this is a framework bug | 02:46 |
hyc | I was running a frankenstein-type ROM before, mostly froyo with some gingerbread framework pieces | 02:46 |
hyc | now I'm running stripped down froyo | 02:46 |
hyc | interestingly, there is no unimplemnted function error message in my log | 02:47 |
hyc | so test 17 was fine | 02:47 |
manekineko | hm interesting, so it is outside of the driver | 02:48 |
hyc | well.... have you had a look at the EGL library code? | 02:48 |
manekineko | nope, what's the deal? | 02:48 |
hyc | there's a java wrapper around a C++ wrapper around two different shared libs | 02:48 |
hyc | the C++ wrapper basically does dlopen/dlsym to find a requested EGL function | 02:49 |
hyc | and if it can't find it in libagl or libhgl.so then it prints that unimp message | 02:49 |
hyc | so there's enough moving parts in userland that it's hard to pin down exactly what implements what | 02:50 |
manekineko | how do the drivers get tied in then? | 02:50 |
hyc | I haven't figured that out yet :P | 02:50 |
manekineko | are the libraries binary blobs or do we have the code for those? | 02:50 |
hyc | so far I've only found the code for the wrappers | 02:50 |
hyc | I believe the actual display driver is a blob | 02:51 |
hyc | not sure | 02:51 |
manekineko | the libgles_qualcom driver? | 02:51 |
hyc | right | 02:52 |
manekineko | yeah, that's just a blob | 02:52 |
manekineko | suppose we could avoid having to code anything and just rip out the libagl and libhgl libraries and stick them in? | 02:53 |
hyc | rip them out from where? | 02:54 |
hyc | hero? | 02:54 |
manekineko | from the current ROM you're using that doesn't throw the errors | 02:54 |
manekineko | incidently did test 18 work? | 02:54 |
manekineko | and did you see anything weird visually on test 17? | 02:54 |
hyc | no, test 18 FCd | 02:54 |
hyc | and test 17, not sure what it was meant to do | 02:55 |
hyc | it seemed like it was panning and zooming ok | 02:55 |
manekineko | hmm sounds like maybe no improvement then, other than being quieter in the log | 02:55 |
hyc | right | 02:55 |
manekineko | I thought test 17 looked a little funky, not like the other landscape ones | 02:55 |
manekineko | when it panned it looked odd | 02:55 |
manekineko | but not sure if that is just what it looks like | 02:56 |
hyc | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=638666 | 02:59 |
dingbat | shuffling through kernels to find one that has working wifi, to download that OpenGL 3D | 03:18 |
dingbat | showcase | 03:19 |
hyc | ok, 18, 19, and 20 FC for me | 03:23 |
hyc | 21 and 22 work | 03:23 |
hyc | 23 appears to have hung on "Loading" | 03:24 |
hyc | 24 is fine | 03:25 |
hyc | going to try it on the TP2 now | 03:25 |
hyc | which is still giving me SoD. POS | 03:26 |
manekineko | hah | 03:26 |
manekineko | you on the new test kernel from WisTilt2 that is supposed to resolve those? | 03:26 |
hyc | yep | 03:26 |
manekineko | dingbat, any kernel should work with wifi | 03:26 |
hyc | just installed it a couple hours ago | 03:27 |
dingbat | for the touch pro, kernel updates seem to break wifi compatibility occasionally | 03:27 |
manekineko | oh really? didn't know that | 03:27 |
dingbat | trying the 1/24 one, should work | 03:28 |
hyc | I really don't like the XDA init scripts, they copy tons of files to /data on every boot | 03:28 |
hyc | they should check for a flag file and only do the copy if needed | 03:28 |
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hyc | ok, got same results on TP2 as on G1 | 03:41 |
hyc | except that 23 ran fine on TP2 | 03:41 |
hyc | probably not enough memory on G1 | 03:42 |
dingbat | can someone please host the opengl3d apk | 03:42 |
hyc | one sec | 03:43 |
hyc | http://highlandsun.com/hyc/yz.opengl.es11.apk | 03:44 |
manekineko | hmm probably to dig anymore into this problem would require looking at the code | 03:44 |
dingbat | hyc, thank you | 03:45 |
dingbat | was about to call it a night with this wifi nonsense | 03:45 |
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hyc | I decided to send crash feedback to google for tests 18 19 and 20 | 03:47 |
manekineko | makes sense, since you're on a native Android device | 03:48 |
manekineko | wouldn't hold our breath for any fixes from them though | 03:48 |
hyc | right | 03:48 |
hyc | of course, this is not an official T-Mobile rom | 03:49 |
hyc | and yeah, not gonna hold my breath on any useful response | 03:49 |
hyc | google has pretty much zero customer support | 03:49 |
dingbat | yeah, 18, 19, 20 crash the software | 03:59 |
dingbat | 23 hangs | 03:59 |
hyc | 23 eventually runs | 03:59 |
hyc | it needs RAM, it's creating billions of data points | 04:00 |
dingbat | oh | 04:00 |
hyc | or something ridiculous | 04:00 |
dingbat | I'll let it run for a few mins | 04:00 |
hyc | it didn't take long on my TP2 | 04:00 |
hyc | it took forever on my G1 | 04:00 |
dingbat | did you try the hw3d.force=1 line on the G1 | 04:01 |
hyc | shouldn't need it | 04:01 |
hyc | and the G1 doesn't have a startup like TP2 anyway | 04:01 |
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dingbat | waited a few mins and saw a "not supported" banner | 04:09 |
hyc | really? | 04:09 |
hyc | it worked on my TP2 | 04:09 |
hyc | what image are you running? | 04:09 |
dingbat | this is a touch pro first gen | 04:09 |
hyc | oh | 04:09 |
dingbat | well, not first gen, just not 2 | 04:09 |
hyc | still, it's all MSM7200 | 04:09 |
dingbat | this one has a 7501a | 04:10 |
hyc | oh, ok. you're CDMA? | 04:10 |
dingbat | yes | 04:10 |
hyc | still have the same CPU and GPU | 04:10 |
hyc | just a different radio | 04:10 |
dingbat | I'm not familiar with their numbering scheme | 04:11 |
hyc | but anyway, it doesn't seem like we're any worse off than the "native" android devices | 04:11 |
dingbat | has anyone wrested some decent functionality out of an msm7x chip, like running quake2 at 30 fps even | 04:15 |
hyc | I recall seeing a google employee's G1 running quake a couple years ago | 04:16 |
manekineko | alright, getting late here, I'm off to bed, good luck with the graphics stuff guys | 04:16 |
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GlemSom | Ok, I *think* usercomments should be working now... ! :/ | 04:26 |
GlemSom | My retarded webhost decided to upgrade PHP, which broke securimage.. | 04:26 |
GlemSom | After I've fixed that (took me quite a while)... They decided to roll-back to a backup, due to server-change... | 04:26 |
GlemSom | ffs.... :/ | 04:26 |
GlemSom | So, I've re-fixed it... including a few permission issues... PLEASE drop me an email or something if it breaks again. | 04:27 |
GlemSom | glemsom at xdandroind dot com | 04:27 |
GlemSom | I gotta get some work done.... bbl... | 04:27 |
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camro | hi guys | 06:52 |
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camro | @phh: do you know, the "call recording" is this a kernel related stuff or framework related ? | 06:58 |
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Lmiller_away | man you do ever sleep? | 07:10 |
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arrrghhh | i'm.... honestly not up this early usually. | 07:12 |
arrrghhh | have a patch to appy at work | 07:13 |
L_miller | I see. | 07:13 |
arrrghhh | apply* | 07:13 |
arrrghhh | yea it's just after 5am here. bleh. | 07:13 |
L_miller | 6... | 07:13 |
L_miller | Normal work for me. :( | 07:13 |
arrrghhh | heh | 07:14 |
L_miller | 6 or 7. | 07:14 |
arrrghhh | but hey you get off early | 07:14 |
arrrghhh | right? | 07:14 |
arrrghhh | i usually have to work till 1800 | 07:14 |
L_miller | 3:30 or 4:30 depends.... | 07:14 |
L_miller | ouch. | 07:14 |
arrrghhh | but don't start until 0900 | 07:14 |
L_miller | :( | 07:14 |
L_miller | ahh ok that's better. | 07:14 |
arrrghhh | depends on the day. i still have a lot of things i "support" so i have to hold those hours. | 07:15 |
arrrghhh | kinda sucks, but c'est la vie. | 07:15 |
L_miller | yeah I would like going in later too but not coming home that later. | 07:15 |
arrrghhh | heh | 07:16 |
arrrghhh | it's a tradeoff. i used to work 630-330 | 07:17 |
arrrghhh | i was late a lot.... but it was very nice gettin off that early. | 07:17 |
* L_miller IS late alot... | 07:17 | |
arrrghhh | heh | 07:17 |
arrrghhh | bastages switched me to salary, so now the timeclock has no meaning. | 07:18 |
L_miller | that will be coming soon for me too... | 07:18 |
L_miller | Can't wait. | 07:18 |
arrrghhh | yea. i wasn't too happy about it TBH | 07:18 |
L_miller | I don't really punch in but... | 07:18 |
arrrghhh | don't get me wrong, not punching a timeclock is great. | 07:18 |
arrrghhh | but getting the same paycheck no matter what has its ups and downs... usually its downs because they'll make sure to work you more than 40 hrs :P | 07:19 |
L_miller | yeah that is usually the case. | 07:19 |
L_miller | shit my phone just completly froze during a flash at 82% :( | 07:20 |
arrrghhh | oh noes | 07:20 |
* L_miller waits.... | 07:20 | |
arrrghhh | nice | 07:21 |
* arrrghhh got his tax return | 07:21 | |
* L_miller still waiting... | 07:21 | |
arrrghhh | still at 82%? | 07:21 |
arrrghhh | :/ | 07:21 |
arrrghhh | flash to android? | 07:21 |
L_miller | bet that was nice. | 07:21 |
L_miller | yup. | 07:21 |
arrrghhh | damn. usually that's real quick too. | 07:21 |
L_miller | time to pull the plug. | 07:21 |
arrrghhh | cuz it's what 3mb? lol | 07:21 |
arrrghhh | yea, return was average actually. but i've always claimed 0, this was the first time i could do 2. | 07:22 |
arrrghhh | hell turbotax told me to bump it to 3. | 07:22 |
L_miller | lol wtf... did it again... Same spot. | 07:22 |
L_miller | Ohh well... | 07:23 |
arrrghhh | uh oh | 07:23 |
arrrghhh | can you flash winmo? | 07:23 |
L_miller | yeah most likly. | 07:23 |
arrrghhh | hope so... | 07:24 |
arrrghhh | :S | 07:24 |
L_miller | third time = fail! | 07:24 |
L_miller | Ok different rom | 07:24 |
arrrghhh | heh | 07:24 |
L_miller | ahh. fixed it. | 07:25 |
L_miller | was playing around with shit i shouldn't have i guess. ;) | 07:26 |
* L_miller hasn't started his taxes yet... | 07:26 | |
arrrghhh | lol | 07:26 |
arrrghhh | i get that crap done | 07:27 |
L_miller | I think i have everything ready to go... Just need to drop it off. :) | 07:27 |
arrrghhh | assuming i have all the damn info | 07:27 |
arrrghhh | drop it off? | 07:27 |
arrrghhh | turbotax ftw :P | 07:27 |
L_miller | Nahh... Uncle = free. :) | 07:27 |
arrrghhh | lol | 07:28 |
L_miller | or a case of beer. | 07:28 |
arrrghhh | i don't have a tax peddling uncle :P | 07:28 |
arrrghhh | my taxes are pretty easy | 07:28 |
L_miller | It's nice. | 07:28 |
arrrghhh | got my return quick too, i was surprised. | 07:28 |
arrrghhh | my state came within 3 days i think | 07:28 |
arrrghhh | federal was... 6. | 07:29 |
L_miller | wow! crazy fasst | 07:29 |
arrrghhh | looooove e-file | 07:29 |
arrrghhh | alright, time to go to work | 07:33 |
L_miller | later! | 07:33 |
arrrghhh | peace | 07:33 |
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Tandyman100 | Hey guys | 10:09 |
Tandyman100 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3kBzSMkX5Y&feature=related | 10:09 |
Tandyman100 | That's damned impressive | 10:09 |
Tandyman100 | I tried that build on my non-overclocked raph800 and it was unusable | 10:09 |
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MassStash | L_miller, natemcnutty, up yet guys? saw acl dropped n autobuild lastnight, bout to try it | 12:06 |
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L_miller | yeah... Give it a try. I havn't yet and Not sure what he has changed either. | 12:12 |
L_miller | natemcnutty - you getting any closer on data? | 12:13 |
L_miller | I have a couple ideas but would like to run them by you. | 12:14 |
jonpry | fix pppd? | 12:17 |
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MassStash | yea L_miller, you messing with pppd still or find a better solution? | 12:17 |
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L_miller | Well I seen in the system.rc there is a call for "ifup lo" which does not even exsit in out version of busybox... | 12:19 |
L_miller | But we have it as a symblink in the rootfs. | 12:20 |
arrrghhh | what would lo do for us tho | 12:20 |
arrrghhh | lo is always up from my testing. | 12:20 |
arrrghhh | ppp0 is... not. | 12:21 |
L_miller | Not for sure... That's why I'm asking you guys. | 12:21 |
L_miller | Just came across it. :) | 12:21 |
L_miller | # basic network init | 12:21 |
L_miller | ifup lo | 12:21 |
L_miller | hostname localhost | 12:21 |
L_miller | domainname localdomain | 12:21 |
arrrghhh | lol | 12:21 |
arrrghhh | damnit jim | 12:21 |
arrrghhh | what about ppp0 | 12:21 |
Tandyman100 | arrrghhh | 12:21 |
arrrghhh | i'm pretty savvy with networking (it is a big part of my job) | 12:21 |
Tandyman100 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3kBzSMkX5Y&feature=related | 12:21 |
arrrghhh | so this is one area i can probably help with | 12:21 |
Tandyman100 | Have you seen that? | 12:21 |
arrrghhh | Tandyman100, wtf are you sending me youtube vids for. | 12:22 |
arrrghhh | i can't view thos | 12:22 |
arrrghhh | those* | 12:22 |
Tandyman100 | Remember testing out that Hero build on the Touch Pro was absolutely horrible | 12:22 |
Tandyman100 | oh | 12:22 |
Tandyman100 | What OS are you on atm? | 12:22 |
L_miller | arrrghhh - you are the man! Not me :) Just looking at stuff. | 12:22 |
Tandyman100 | well, it's a video of the Hero xdandroid build running at a pretty fast speed, unfortunately, the graphics are still clipped :./ | 12:22 |
Tandyman100 | :/ | 12:22 |
arrrghhh | Tandyman100, not OS issue i'm at work... | 12:23 |
Tandyman100 | oh, sorry mate :) | 12:23 |
arrrghhh | np | 12:23 |
arrrghhh | so what's your question about it? | 12:23 |
arrrghhh | i don't remember any hero builds specifically | 12:23 |
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Tandyman100 | I thought you were here? It's a build of XDAndroid with sense built in (or whatever it's called on android) | 12:24 |
arrrghhh | oh | 12:24 |
arrrghhh | rosie | 12:24 |
arrrghhh | what about rosie | 12:24 |
Tandyman100 | That's it. | 12:24 |
arrrghhh | she's a tired old hag | 12:24 |
Tandyman100 | It was SLOW. And in this video, someone managed to get it going SPEEDEH and uses it day-to-day (silly idiot) | 12:24 |
arrrghhh | tiad8 kanged it and rebranded it "SENSE X" | 12:24 |
arrrghhh | so...? | 12:24 |
Tandyman100 | i just thought it was worthy of mention ;) | 12:24 |
arrrghhh | meh | 12:25 |
arrrghhh | i don't like sense on android | 12:25 |
arrrghhh | sense makes winmo bearable | 12:25 |
Tandyman100 | I like the clock :P | 12:25 |
arrrghhh | barable? | 12:25 |
arrrghhh | bleh | 12:25 |
arrrghhh | Tandyman100, fancy widget | 12:25 |
arrrghhh | /done | 12:25 |
Tandyman100 | yeah | 12:25 |
Tandyman100 | hehe | 12:25 |
MassStash | werd | 12:25 |
Tandyman100 | I never did figure out how to install that on XDAndroid, but it doesn't matter. FRX04 is too slow for day-to-day use on my RAPH800. | 12:25 |
arrrghhh | meh | 12:26 |
arrrghhh | screams on my rhod | 12:26 |
arrrghhh | which doesn't make sense as we have the same specs | 12:26 |
arrrghhh | and rhod is pushing more pixels | 12:26 |
arrrghhh | so in theory it should be slower. just not a lot of devs working on raph. | 12:26 |
Tandyman100 | odd O_o | 12:27 |
Tandyman100 | I have serious lag problems, and camera isn't working yet x.x | 12:27 |
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arrrghhh | camera does work, and the code is being integrated into the main kernel. | 12:28 |
* Tandyman100 bleeds all over his raph800 | 12:28 | |
arrrghhh | lol | 12:28 |
Tandyman100 | Yay, excuse for an upgrade. | 12:28 |
Tandyman100 | Wait WHAT | 12:28 |
Tandyman100 | when did THIS happen? | 12:28 |
Detule | ha | 12:28 |
arrrghhh | what | 12:29 |
arrrghhh | camera? | 12:29 |
arrrghhh | forever ago | 12:29 |
arrrghhh | the thread is even in the TP section | 12:29 |
Tandyman100 | i just tried the latest build as of three weeks ago, and the camera app just gave me the 'lolz not werkan your tard' checkerboard-pattern | 12:29 |
arrrghhh | lol | 12:29 |
Tandyman100 | FRX04 (or however you spell it. Something with a 4) | 12:29 |
emwe | stinebd: does one still need the hw3d.zip in repo root? | 12:30 |
Tandyman100 | Though I noticed it wasn't the image with the fixed buttons (my home button would sleep the device... wut.) | 12:30 |
Tandyman100 | aw no. The touch pro was moved to legacy devices | 12:34 |
* Tandyman100 sobs | 12:34 | |
Tandyman100 | I feel so inadequate! | 12:34 |
Tandyman100 | Woah. | 12:35 |
* Tandyman100 just saw the HTC S740 | 12:35 | |
Tandyman100 | That looks cool :P | 12:35 |
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Tandyman100 | I'm an idiot. I forgot what to put in startup.txt to define that haret and the associated android files are going to be in the subdirectory /android | 12:54 |
rpierce99 | rel_path=android | 12:55 |
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Tandyman100 | Thanks. | 12:57 |
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nck20 | hey guys i have some cellphone network problems with the newest gingerbread beta | 13:42 |
Tandyman100 | what phone are you using? | 13:43 |
nck20 | htc topaz (diamond 2) | 13:44 |
nck20 | i have the newest kernel and rootfs from the xdandroid site | 13:44 |
arrrghhh | gb is alpha, if anything. | 13:48 |
Tandyman100 | I'm booting it right now on my raph800. So far I'm noticing that the boot animation is a lot smoother than froyo ;) | 13:49 |
Tandyman100 | I also double-tapped a calibration point, so this should be... intersting. | 13:49 |
nck20 | I don't even have a boot animation XD i just have a black screen | 13:49 |
arrrghhh | nck20, sounds like hw3d isn't working for you | 13:50 |
nck20 | but when i use the neopeek's gb beta i have cellphone connection, | 13:50 |
arrrghhh | startup.txt? | 13:50 |
nck20 | i think you're are right cause i changed my startup.txt to disable hw3d | 13:50 |
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Tandyman100 | it booted | 13:51 |
Tandyman100 | WOW this is FAST | 13:51 |
Tandyman100 | Geez. | 13:51 |
nck20 | Tandyman100, does your cellphone network works? | 13:52 |
nck20 | arrrghhh, can my cellphone network problem having something to do with my startup.txt? | 13:53 |
arrrghhh | could | 13:53 |
arrrghhh | Tandyman100, yea gb is quick. | 13:54 |
arrrghhh | nck20, perhaps. | 13:54 |
Tandyman100 | I have no clue, I'm soft-resetting and deleting ts-calibration ATM | 13:54 |
arrrghhh | i don't have a TD so i'm not positive | 13:54 |
nck20 | what do i have to change in my startup.txt to solve the problem, if it's in my startup.txt? | 13:54 |
rrewTPZ | hey all | 13:54 |
nck20 | hey | 13:54 |
Tandyman100 | damnit | 13:54 |
Tandyman100 | I have a bug to report ._. | 13:55 |
nck20 | what is it? | 13:55 |
rrewTPZ | arrrghhh, u here? | 13:55 |
Tandyman100 | When booting on a raph800, when it comes to the calibration, the calibration points aren't visible. | 13:55 |
arrrghhh | no | 13:55 |
arrrghhh | Tandyman100, known issue | 13:55 |
arrrghhh | please read the steps in the thread | 13:55 |
Tandyman100 | ah | 13:55 |
Tandyman100 | herp derp, I need to RTFM | 13:55 |
arrrghhh | nck20, pastebin your startup.txt | 13:55 |
arrrghhh | Tandyman100, yes. | 13:55 |
arrrghhh | :P | 13:55 |
Tandyman100 | I guess I'll just grab another ts-calibration :P | 13:55 |
nck20 | what do i have to do with my startup.txt? | 13:56 |
Tandyman100 | actually | 13:56 |
Tandyman100 | what order are the points? | 13:56 |
Tandyman100 | upper-right, middle, upper-left, lower-left, lower-right, correct? | 13:56 |
arrrghhh | Tandyman100, that won't work | 13:56 |
arrrghhh | how will you know where to hit? | 13:56 |
arrrghhh | nck20, if you don't want my help then i don't have to help you.. | 13:56 |
nck20 | tandyman100, you just have to restart your phone and then the calibration points will appear | 13:57 |
Tandyman100 | I know *about* where the points are, I just forgot what order they're in. | 13:57 |
arrrghhh | nck20, not true | 13:57 |
Tandyman100 | nck20, nope. | 13:57 |
nck20 | i worked for me with froyo | 13:57 |
arrrghhh | ... | 13:57 |
nck20 | *it | 13:57 |
arrrghhh | there's a kernel issue after the .35 framebuffer commit. | 13:57 |
arrrghhh | so no, won't work in froyo either unless you're on an old kernel. | 13:57 |
arrrghhh | please read my steps... it's all in there. | 13:57 |
nck20 | ok i'm sorry | 13:57 |
nck20 | arrrghhh, do i have to copy my startup.txt to this chatpage./ | 13:58 |
nck20 | ? | 13:58 |
rrewTPZ | arrrghhh, saw someone needs a logcat from a native msm7200 device? still needed? | 13:59 |
arrrghhh | rrewTPZ, yes! | 13:59 |
arrrghhh | what do you have? | 13:59 |
arrrghhh | nck20, pastebin... | 13:59 |
nck20 | sorry what is pastebin??? | 13:59 |
nck20 | first time here | 13:59 |
rrewTPZ | i could provide a logcat of my friends samung galaxy | 14:00 |
arrrghhh | pastebin.com? | 14:00 |
arrrghhh | christ. | 14:00 |
Tandyman100 | lol | 14:00 |
arrrghhh | rrewTPZ, that's msm7200? | 14:00 |
rrewTPZ | yep | 14:00 |
arrrghhh | rrewTPZ, tell cotulla | 14:00 |
arrrghhh | in #htc-linux | 14:00 |
arrrghhh | he might or might-not be interesting. | 14:00 |
arrrghhh | sammy might not help :P | 14:00 |
rrewTPZ | ok | 14:00 |
nck20 | sorry that i don't know pastebin.com | 14:01 |
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arrrghhh | nck20, google is your friend. | 14:02 |
arrrghhh | bzo, what's goin on mang | 14:02 |
nck20 | i've found the page | 14:02 |
bzo | hi arrrghhh | 14:02 |
nck20 | i've submitted my startup.txt and what now? | 14:03 |
arrrghhh | uhm | 14:04 |
arrrghhh | give me the link? | 14:04 |
nck20 | http://pastebin.com/bdkup0du | 14:04 |
arrrghhh | two issues | 14:05 |
nck20 | ok | 14:05 |
arrrghhh | why do you have an acpuclock command if you want to run at stock speeed | 14:05 |
arrrghhh | and why do you have sleep_mode set to 2? | 14:05 |
nck20 | idk, got this startup from someone | 14:06 |
arrrghhh | ok | 14:06 |
arrrghhh | change those two things | 14:06 |
arrrghhh | remove the acpu command | 14:06 |
nck20 | otherwise my phone can't come out of sleep | 14:06 |
arrrghhh | and change sleep_mode to 1 | 14:06 |
arrrghhh | what kernel are you on? | 14:06 |
arrrghhh | this was fixed by sir bzo a while ago. | 14:06 |
nck20 | the newest from xdandroid site | 14:06 |
nck20 | oowh ok i'll try it again ;) but i think that doesnt has anything to do with my network problem? does it? | 14:06 |
rrewTPZ | hw3d.force=1 still needed in startup.txt? | 14:07 |
arrrghhh | rrewTPZ, don't think it's necessary but doesn't hurt. | 14:07 |
arrrghhh | nck20, probably not. | 14:07 |
rrewTPZ | just askin :P | 14:07 |
nck20 | ok, but do you know where i maybe can find a solution for it? | 14:07 |
rrewTPZ | damn a long time passed since i was a little bit active on here and a lot of things changed :P | 14:08 |
arrrghhh | nck20, just boot it with those changes | 14:08 |
arrrghhh | we can troubleshoot from there | 14:08 |
nck20 | ok | 14:08 |
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nck20 | still no boot animation for me | 14:11 |
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nck20 | still not network connection | 14:12 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 14:13 |
arrrghhh | bootani is confusing | 14:13 |
arrrghhh | not sure why you wouldn't have that | 14:13 |
arrrghhh | but is airplane mode on? | 14:13 |
arrrghhh | did you check all of the android-related settings to the radio? | 14:13 |
rrewTPZ | apn maybe? | 14:14 |
nck20 | airplane mode is not on | 14:14 |
arrrghhh | apn would only effect data AFAIK | 14:14 |
nck20 | and what radio do you mean? | 14:15 |
arrrghhh | nck20, can you turn it on and then wait a few secs then turn it back off? | 14:15 |
arrrghhh | nck20, i'm assuming you're talking cell radio | 14:15 |
arrrghhh | as in you get no bars | 14:15 |
arrrghhh | little X by the signal meter | 14:15 |
arrrghhh | yes? | 14:15 |
nck20 | yes have a X by the signal meter | 14:15 |
rrewTPZ | cdma or gsm? | 14:15 |
arrrghhh | cycle radio | 14:15 |
arrrghhh | td2 is gsm only, no? | 14:16 |
nck20 | i live in holland so i think it's only gsm | 14:16 |
rrewTPZ | gsm | 14:16 |
rrewTPZ | yeah | 14:16 |
rrewTPZ | though we were talking about rhod | 14:16 |
rpierce99 | is it ePlus? lot of forums users are saying that mediascanner breaks ePlus | 14:16 |
nck20 | no ePlus is german | 14:16 |
* rpierce99 has no idea what that is | 14:16 | |
arrrghhh | lol | 14:17 |
arrrghhh | service provider | 14:17 |
* rpierce99 is a stupid american, oblivious to the rest of the world | 14:17 | |
nck20 | Hi | 14:17 |
nck20 | i'm trying to put my phone in ap mode, but it doesnt work | 14:18 |
rrewTPZ | did you ever had cell connection on your td2? | 14:19 |
nck20 | yes | 14:19 |
rrewTPZ | with android | 14:19 |
rrewTPZ | hmmm | 14:19 |
nck20 | yes always had | 14:19 |
nck20 | but sometimes i don't hear the people on the otherside of the line | 14:19 |
arrrghhh | i honestly don't know what would trip that up other than startup | 14:19 |
arrrghhh | nck20, that's an old kernel issue | 14:19 |
arrrghhh | was fixed with a newer kernel. | 14:19 |
rrewTPZ | there is a workaround for that | 14:20 |
nck20 | but i have the newest from the xdandroid site?? | 14:20 |
arrrghhh | flip speakerphone on/off | 14:20 |
arrrghhh | nck20, newest...? | 14:20 |
arrrghhh | what kernel | 14:20 |
nck20 | the kernel on the xdandroid.com site | 14:20 |
arrrghhh | ... | 14:20 |
arrrghhh | you're so helpful. | 14:20 |
arrrghhh | like pulling teeth trying to help you dude. | 14:20 |
nck20 | sorry i'm a noob i know | 14:21 |
Tandyman100 | bahaha | 14:21 |
arrrghhh | that's not an excuse | 14:21 |
arrrghhh | i was a noob too, i just read a lot | 14:21 |
arrrghhh | then read some more | 14:21 |
Tandyman100 | I was a noob too. Still am. | 14:21 |
nck20 | ok,, | 14:21 |
arrrghhh | i have a router to build tho, so i'm done pulling teeth. | 14:21 |
nck20 | ok, | 14:22 |
rrewTPZ | did you tried using a new data.img? | 14:22 |
nck20 | jep, made a new data.img when i started gb, and did that a couple of times with new data.img | 14:22 |
rrewTPZ | dunno any other reason :S | 14:24 |
nck20 | but where can i find the newest kernels? cause i use the one's from this site | 14:24 |
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f2 | ok i got some issues on the gingerbread build | 14:25 |
nck20 | what issues | 14:30 |
f2 | its a topaz diamond 2 | 14:30 |
f2 | GMS is dead so no fone signal | 14:30 |
f2 | wifi doesnt start at all | 14:31 |
rrewTPZ | wifi is a known problem | 14:31 |
nck20 | another one who don't have a phone signal | 14:31 |
f2 | boot animation or what ever u call it, it not present or seen, just black screen | 14:32 |
f2 | mine is a GSM fone | 14:32 |
f2 | oke | 14:32 |
nck20 | where do you live? | 14:32 |
f2 | UAE | 14:33 |
nck20 | hmm ok | 14:33 |
f2 | United Arab Emirates or AE | 14:33 |
nck20 | i know what UAE is :p | 14:33 |
f2 | 90% dont | 14:34 |
nck20 | ok ;) | 14:34 |
nck20 | i payed attention at school :P | 14:34 |
f2 | so whts yur role in the development team | 14:35 |
f2 | ??? | 14:36 |
f2 | and yes UI is laggy | 14:37 |
f2 | so nck20 what happened u have gone silent? | 14:38 |
nck20 | i don't have a role in the development team | 14:39 |
nck20 | and i was doing some expirements with my gb on my topaz | 14:39 |
f2 | and? | 14:39 |
nck20 | still bussy, if i have the solution i'll tell it to you | 14:39 |
nck20 | first trying out neopeek's version again cause i thought i have phone signal with that one | 14:40 |
f2 | the devs are busy working on .35 kernel | 14:41 |
nck20 | where can i find the newest kernels? cause i think i have them but i'm not sure | 14:41 |
f2 | i know of .27 | 14:41 |
rpierce99 | nck20: http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/ | 14:41 |
nck20 | those are the same as on the xdandroid.com site | 14:42 |
f2 | yes and no | 14:42 |
f2 | the one on the xandriod was build by F22 | 14:43 |
rrewTPZ | u the one from glemsom | 14:43 |
rrewTPZ | use* | 14:43 |
nck20 | ok | 14:43 |
f2 | since glensom site was down and would not push newew kernels\ | 14:44 |
arrrghhh | f2, what are you talking about? | 14:44 |
arrrghhh | yea, but F22's kernels were never on xdandroid's site. | 14:44 |
arrrghhh | they were only posted in a thread on xda-devs... | 14:44 |
nck20 | but why is the gelnsom version better then the xdandroid? | 14:45 |
arrrghhh | what do you mean? | 14:45 |
arrrghhh | who said the GlemSom version were any better, they're the exact same kernel... | 14:46 |
f2 | hajhahahaha arrrrghhh is here | 14:46 |
nck20 | but why should i take the glensom then rrewTPZ??? | 14:46 |
f2 | welcome | 14:46 |
arrrghhh | the Latest Updates section on xdandroid.com links to GlemSom's kernels. | 14:46 |
f2 | ooops | 14:46 |
rrewTPZ | :D | 14:46 |
arrrghhh | nck20, you're over-thinking it. or under... or just not at all, i don't know. | 14:47 |
f2 | dude nck20 i meant F22 posted kernel for us on XDA site since the other build service was down | 14:47 |
nck20 | i'm just learning | 14:47 |
nck20 | ok | 14:47 |
f2 | Feb 22nd, 2011 Announcement: Now that Glemsom's auto-build system is back up, I will no longer be posting kernels to this thread. Kernel 1260 is the last that will be posted here. I encourage everyone to use the auto-build service from this point forward. Feel free to continue using this thread to discuss new kernels as they're released. | 14:48 |
arrrghhh | yes | 14:48 |
arrrghhh | f2, that's correct. | 14:48 |
rrewTPZ | i use always glamsom ones becouse i can read change logs :D, dunno if its possible on xdandroid site | 14:48 |
arrrghhh | rrewTPZ, it's not :P | 14:48 |
rrewTPZ | i love technical description on what is changed not only numerical :P | 14:49 |
f2 | why is every one calling me f2? | 14:50 |
arrrghhh | uhm | 14:51 |
rrewTPZ | you nick maybe points to this? | 14:51 |
arrrghhh | your name | 14:51 |
rrewTPZ | your* | 14:51 |
arrrghhh | LMAO | 14:51 |
f2 | its MJ | 14:51 |
rpierce99 | no it's not | 14:51 |
arrrghhh | no, it's not at all | 14:51 |
f2 | 3+ | 14:51 |
f2 | :-X | 14:52 |
f2 | 3 | 14:52 |
f2 | its not me my 1 year old daughe | 14:52 |
arrrghhh | ... | 14:52 |
f2 | r+' | 14:52 |
f2 | ++++++ | 14:52 |
f2 | 3 | 14:52 |
f2 | 3 | 14:52 |
f2 | its my daughter | 14:53 |
f2 | she has developed a fany for my keyboard | 14:53 |
f2 | fancy | 14:53 |
f2 | so arrrrgh | 14:54 |
f2 | u have used gingerbread right | 14:55 |
arrrghhh | here and there | 14:56 |
f2 | i got some issuesa | 14:56 |
f2 | like no signal | 14:56 |
f2 | no wifi -- again | 14:56 |
f2 | UI is laggy | 14:57 |
f2 | sound works | 14:57 |
f2 | UI is neat | 14:57 |
arrrghhh | wifi is related to the modules | 14:57 |
arrrghhh | no signal, i'd guess startup.txt, but i don't know. | 14:57 |
arrrghhh | gb works great for me | 14:57 |
arrrghhh | UI flies compared to froyo | 14:57 |
f2 | using the same i use for fx04 | 14:57 |
arrrghhh | i haven't seen any complaints in the forum | 14:58 |
arrrghhh | what device? | 14:58 |
f2 | 3 | 14:58 |
f2 | 3 | 14:58 |
f2 | 3 | 14:58 |
f2 | 3 | 14:58 |
f2 | 3 | 14:58 |
f2 | 3 | 14:58 |
f2 | topaz | 14:58 |
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f2 | using the latest rootfs and kernel | 14:59 |
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arrrghhh | emwe, you there? | 15:00 |
f2 | eh? | 15:00 |
arrrghhh | f2, can you change your name? it's very annoying. | 15:00 |
f2 | i am using IRC on pidgin | 15:00 |
f2 | its neat | 15:00 |
Tandyman100 | haha | 15:01 |
f2 | can i say i dont like your nick also pls change it :) | 15:01 |
f2 | and yeah everything annoys you :) | 15:02 |
f2 | but i dont mind changing my nick > whats the command? | 15:02 |
arrrghhh | i don't know why i even help people. | 15:02 |
f2 | coz the force asked you to :) | 15:03 |
f2 | let me try changing my nick again yeah | 15:04 |
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arrrghhh | oh it's that imran bastard. | 15:04 |
arrrghhh | makes sense now. | 15:04 |
kwoodyusa | lol | 15:06 |
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kwoodyusa | so much funny stuff in here | 15:06 |
f2 | hello | 15:06 |
f2 | has it made any diff | 15:06 |
kwoodyusa | OMG | 15:06 |
arrrghhh | lol | 15:06 |
f2 | whats my name | 15:06 |
arrrghhh | you can't see your name? | 15:06 |
arrrghhh | oh right you're using pidgin | 15:07 |
arrrghhh | oy | 15:07 |
f2 | yup | 15:07 |
arrrghhh | can't help you then | 15:07 |
f2 | i would need to delete the a/c and make a new one | 15:07 |
arrrghhh | not even sure if you can /nick on that | 15:07 |
arrrghhh | i don't use pidgin | 15:07 |
f2 | see our conversation is making many ppl wake up again as most are dormant anyways | 15:08 |
odd | O+O | 15:08 |
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testing | ok it works | 15:09 |
testing | now whats my name? is it r4esting | 15:09 |
testing | testing | 15:09 |
arrrghhh | testing, wtf are you talking about. | 15:09 |
testing | IRC command works here | 15:10 |
emwe | arrrghhh: re. you don't by any chance have any issues with the lastest rootfs, do you? | 15:10 |
arrrghhh | emwe, haven't tried it | 15:10 |
arrrghhh | the one with all the removed mess? | 15:10 |
testing | the latest one | 15:11 |
arrrghhh | testing, please don't respond for something that you're not involved in. | 15:12 |
arrrghhh | emwe, i haven't tried it. lots of whiners about gb on TOPA, do you have radio issues on GB? | 15:12 |
emwe | arrrghhh: just not binding rootfs lib/hw to /system/lib/hw | 15:12 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 15:12 |
arrrghhh | that might be an issue. | 15:12 |
testing | well i am using the latest one thats why | 15:13 |
testing | and i feel the last one was better | 15:13 |
emwe | arrrghhh: only testing gb with .35. i couldn't even see bootanim anymore. just retesting the rootfs before. | 15:13 |
arrrghhh | sounds like the same issue | 15:13 |
testing | same issue here | 15:13 |
testing | no boot animation | 15:13 |
testing | just black screen | 15:13 |
arrrghhh | testing, nck20 are you on the newest rootfs? | 15:13 |
testing | yesh | 15:14 |
arrrghhh | go back to the one in my bundle. | 15:14 |
Tandyman100 | This is lulz | 15:14 |
arrrghhh | or the one that's a step older | 15:14 |
arrrghhh | Tandyman100, it's actually maddening, thanks. | 15:14 |
Tandyman100 | haha | 15:14 |
Tandyman100 | I find it mildly amusing, but then again, I'm not trying to help them. | 15:14 |
emwe | so, with previous rootfs bootani is back. | 15:14 |
nck20 | yes i'm on the newest rootfs | 15:14 |
emwe | ah... isn't it mounting another gralloc or something for wvga? | 15:14 |
Tandyman100 | If I did, I'd probably tell them something that would make everyone mad at me for being such a @#$% retard. | 15:14 |
arrrghhh | nck20, jesus christ why didn't you tell me that? | 15:15 |
nck20 | i already told you in the beginning | 15:15 |
arrrghhh | ... | 15:15 |
testing | arrrgh u got yur own rootfs builds | 15:15 |
emwe | arrrghhh: you don't listen. lol :/ | 15:15 |
* emwe runs | 15:15 | |
nck20 | [19:44] <nck20> i have the newest kernel and rootfs from the xdandroid site | 15:15 |
emwe | oh, that was supposed to be a ;) | 15:15 |
testing | get use to it he is like that , shotgun | 15:15 |
arrrghhh | nck20, you just said "the newest" | 15:16 |
arrrghhh | you never said which one. | 15:16 |
testing | shoots first and talk later :) | 15:16 |
arrrghhh | testing, you're an idiot. | 15:16 |
nck20 | i thought you would be smart enough the think that the newest is the latest | 15:16 |
testing | and u are rude | 15:16 |
emwe | testing: that's what one gets like in the support business. and he's doing a great job keeping the devs free from such user hassles | 15:16 |
testing | yup | 15:16 |
testing | see arrgh i am trying to be nice with you as i have my interest in seeing xandriod run on our varios phones | 15:17 |
testing | various | 15:17 |
arrrghhh | testing, don't care. | 15:17 |
emwe | arrrghhh: ok, with 20110210 topa is good again. | 15:17 |
arrrghhh | emwe, guten. | 15:17 |
arrrghhh | testing, nck20 revert to an older rootfs. | 15:17 |
Tandyman100 | testing, it takes an enourmous amount of patience to deal with multiple users that aren't necessarily stupid, but aren't as knowledgeable about the subject in question as the person they're asking. | 15:17 |
Tandyman100 | Thus appearing as a clueless retard. | 15:18 |
arrrghhh | and please don't dare make comments like that again nck20. | 15:18 |
testing | noted | 15:18 |
arrrghhh | i do not appreciate it at all. | 15:18 |
arrrghhh | i don't make ANY assumptions. | 15:18 |
Tandyman100 | Be glad arrrghhh is taking ANY time out of his (probably busy) schedule at all to help you. | 15:18 |
arrrghhh | i can't assume that you said you're on the newest, you truly are on the newest. | 15:18 |
arrrghhh | you need to tell me WHICH one | 15:18 |
Tandyman100 | ^ | 15:18 |
arrrghhh | i will determine if it's the newest or not. | 15:18 |
arrrghhh | speaking of which, i do need to finish this router before i go home. | 15:19 |
testing | hail every one for arrrghhh | 15:19 |
arrrghhh | lol that's not necessary :P | 15:19 |
nck20 | i'm using the the 20110224 atm | 15:19 |
arrrghhh | please try rootfs-20110210-2cb7ec0.zip | 15:20 |
arrrghhh | http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/rootfs-20110210-2cb7ec0.zip | 15:20 |
arrrghhh | ^^ | 15:20 |
testing | i will try reverting to the last released rootfs and let you know how gingerbread works | 15:20 |
testing | or behaves | 15:20 |
nck20 | sorry about my comment | 15:20 |
arrrghhh | i'm betting it'll be better lol. | 15:20 |
arrrghhh | oh stinebd | 15:20 |
arrrghhh | giving me headaches to deal with. | 15:20 |
nck20 | but you're a little bit rude too | 15:20 |
arrrghhh | i am rude | 15:20 |
testing | so can we be rude also :) | 15:20 |
arrrghhh | not news to me. | 15:20 |
arrrghhh | not if you expect my help! | 15:21 |
Tandyman100 | If you're on the recieving end of help, it's best to just roll with the punches. | 15:22 |
testing | WisTilt2 kernels are good they behave very well | 15:22 |
arrrghhh | testing, you read so well | 15:22 |
testing | do u like my name now ,nick' | 15:23 |
testing | :-D | 15:23 |
arrrghhh | eh i can autocomplete it eaiser. | 15:23 |
testing | hmm | 15:26 |
nck20 | rootfs-20110210-2cb7ec0 is working, thank you very much and sorry for me being rude to you arrrghhh | 15:27 |
arrrghhh | np. | 15:28 |
* arrrghhh is a rude person, and i would say i'm sorry but i'm really not. lots of crap on my plate today. | 15:28 | |
nck20 | can you tell me what is a good site to learn abou this or do i just have to google? | 15:28 |
arrrghhh | uhm | 15:28 |
arrrghhh | learn about what? | 15:28 |
arrrghhh | android? | 15:28 |
arrrghhh | linux? | 15:28 |
arrrghhh | xdandroid? | 15:28 |
nck20 | xdandroid | 15:28 |
arrrghhh | well our website | 15:28 |
arrrghhh | xdandroid.com | 15:28 |
nck20 | ok | 15:29 |
arrrghhh | there's a ton of info there | 15:29 |
testing | nck20, what do you mean by its working again | 15:29 |
arrrghhh | htc-linux.org is good too | 15:29 |
arrrghhh | but more for developers | 15:29 |
arrrghhh | testing, old rootfs | 15:29 |
arrrghhh | please go back to http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/rootfs-20110210-2cb7ec0.zip | 15:29 |
nck20 | testing, i didn't say working again? | 15:29 |
testing | i am loading the llast rootfs | 15:30 |
testing | the one you asked | 15:30 |
testing | my question was for nck20 | 15:30 |
testing | he says its working | 15:30 |
arrrghhh | yes | 15:30 |
arrrghhh | with that rootfs | 15:30 |
testing | nck20 are u getting the signal again? | 15:31 |
nck20 | yes | 15:31 |
testing | is the boot animation working? | 15:31 |
nck20 | also | 15:31 |
testing | what about basic 3D | 15:31 |
natemcnutty | do we really need the ipv6 module? | 15:31 |
arrrghhh | natemcnutty, for google goggles | 15:31 |
arrrghhh | for whatever reason it requires it... | 15:32 |
natemcnutty | damn | 15:32 |
arrrghhh | it's not enabled by default, you have to modprobe it in | 15:32 |
stinebd | it should really be built in | 15:32 |
natemcnutty | freaking waste of space | 15:32 |
testing | thank you nck20 | 15:32 |
nck20 | you're welcome testing | 15:32 |
arrrghhh | natemcnutty, lol | 15:32 |
nck20 | what is the battery life of gb??? | 15:32 |
testing | arrrghhh, you shud change yur nick to shotgun_arrrghhh | 15:32 |
testing | :-D | 15:33 |
arrrghhh | ... | 15:33 |
arrrghhh | well when i get shoddy information... | 15:33 |
stinebd | good crowd today i see | 15:33 |
arrrghhh | seriously. | 15:33 |
Tandyman100 | lol | 15:33 |
testing | boot animation check | 15:33 |
arrrghhh | did you see the issues on the new rootfs stinebd ? | 15:33 |
stinebd | arrrghhh: didn't i warn you about them? | 15:33 |
arrrghhh | just trying to make my life difficult, i swears. | 15:33 |
testing | works | 15:33 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, no service and no bootani? no. | 15:33 |
stinebd | uh | 15:33 |
stinebd | i clearly said our current gingerbread release may or may not work | 15:34 |
arrrghhh | i mean the rootfs | 15:34 |
Tandyman100 | When it works, it's brilliant. | 15:34 |
stinebd | yes | 15:34 |
arrrghhh | uh | 15:34 |
arrrghhh | i don't get it. | 15:34 |
nck20 | guys thanks for all, bye | 15:34 |
stinebd | do i need to fish up the log for you? | 15:34 |
testing | UI is faaaast | 15:34 |
testing | nck20 come again | 15:34 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, no, don't care. | 15:35 |
testing | we can discuss many things | 15:35 |
nck20 | i'll see, first i'm gonna learn some stuff so i don't piss off arrrghhh with giving him the wrong info xD | 15:35 |
testing | wifi works | 15:35 |
stinebd | arrrghhh: http://xdandroid.com/irclogs/%23xdandroid.20110224.log.html#t2011-02-24T17:58:14 | 15:35 |
stinebd | now you care :P | 15:36 |
testing | got fone signal also | 15:36 |
stinebd | anyway i should put out a new release | 15:36 |
stinebd | with crashy gps and camera support | 15:37 |
arrrghhh | lol stine... oy. | 15:37 |
stinebd | arrrghhh: that's why gingerbread isn't an actual release yet | 15:37 |
arrrghhh | LIES | 15:37 |
stinebd | if people want to test it, that's fine | 15:37 |
stinebd | but they shouldn't be surprised when it blows up | 15:37 |
arrrghhh | ALL LIES | 15:37 |
arrrghhh | yea, i know. | 15:37 |
arrrghhh | for some reason they still are tho | 15:37 |
stinebd | until we make a release, consider any gingerbread changes to rootfs to be relevant only to my working tree | 15:38 |
testing | wifi is connected | 15:38 |
testing | stinebd when can we get hq videos to play as they shud and when are u releasing a new gingerbuild :) | 15:39 |
stinebd | when you submit patches | 15:39 |
testing | oke | 15:39 |
arrrghhh | lmao | 15:40 |
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testing | :-D | 15:41 |
testing | wish i coud | 15:42 |
testing | cud | 15:42 |
xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Petro, who says: Keep the good work! | 15:44 |
testing | :) | 15:46 |
testing | so what next? | 15:49 |
arrrghhh | what do you mean what next | 15:50 |
arrrghhh | your problems are solved, no? | 15:50 |
testing | yes | 15:50 |
arrrghhh | ok | 15:51 |
arrrghhh | so what do you mean what next. | 15:51 |
testing | i wanted to keep the momentum of conversation to go on | 15:52 |
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arrrghhh | testing, not necessary | 15:53 |
arrrghhh | this isn't a room for chat. | 15:53 |
Murasaki | I'm new with HTC, smartphones overall, and I'm really hoping I don't eff up my phone. ): Anyone care to help? | 15:54 |
testing | arrgh u got your patient help him | 15:54 |
testing | :-D | 15:54 |
Murasaki | I'm not a him. ;[ | 15:54 |
Tandyman100 | Murasaki, there is almost no way you can 'eff up' your phone by installing/using XDAndroid. | 15:55 |
arrrghhh | Murasaki, what's wrong | 15:56 |
Tandyman100 | if it doesn't work, all you have to do is reboot the phone and delete the files :) | 15:56 |
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Murasaki | Earlier my problem was getting HardSPL to work. After two days of asking for help and no response, I just dropped it. | 15:57 |
Murasaki | I went to HTC's website and was able to boot up their rom, but when I was using the Topaz Hard SPL, it says I'm not synced properly. | 15:58 |
testing | xandriod is HardSpl free u dont need it | 15:58 |
Murasaki | I dl'd the .cab, still didn't work. | 15:58 |
Murasaki | My first intention was getting a Rom | 15:58 |
Murasaki | So I switched to Xandroid, now. | 15:58 |
rpierce99 | first, don't use the cab, it doesn't work | 15:59 |
Murasaki | Well; First I was getting an android, until it malfunctioned when an unknown caller rang my phone. The entire thing froze up, so I restarted. | 15:59 |
rpierce99 | 2nd, what kind of phone do you have | 15:59 |
Murasaki | Then Xandroid was running impeccably slow, so I just deleted it. | 16:00 |
Murasaki | HTC Pure. | 16:00 |
testing | lol he got a topaz :) | 16:00 |
testing | like me | 16:00 |
Murasaki | Again, I'm not a he, lol. | 16:00 |
arrrghhh | lol | 16:00 |
arrrghhh | pure? | 16:00 |
arrrghhh | is that the TOPA? | 16:00 |
Murasaki | Yes. | 16:00 |
arrrghhh | as was stated previously, cab is broken. | 16:00 |
arrrghhh | also, android isn't perfect | 16:01 |
arrrghhh | if you are concerned about missing calls, etc. stick to winmo. | 16:01 |
testing | it was rel4eased by AT &* T | 16:01 |
Murasaki | So I've noticed, lol. | 16:01 |
arrrghhh | also, as was stated earlier hSPL isn't required for android on SD | 16:01 |
Murasaki | I'm not concerned about missing calls. | 16:01 |
Murasaki | I'm concerned about the fact that the system malfunctioned after 9 seconds into the call | 16:01 |
manekineko | WinMo is hardly perfect either, I trust my XDAndroid more than I trusted WinMo | 16:01 |
Murasaki | Which I heard is quite the occurance, no big deal | 16:01 |
Murasaki | But | 16:02 |
manekineko | dingbat hyc : got a response on the opengl driver thread from a Hero user http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=899801&page=22 | 16:02 |
manekineko | they also get failures running OpenGL tests on the same tests | 16:02 |
Murasaki | When I rebotted my phone, the Xandroid was very, very slow. | 16:02 |
arrrghhh | Murasaki, make sure you're completely up to date. | 16:02 |
arrrghhh | see my FRX04 thread | 16:02 |
manekineko | I think we're pretty much out of luck when it comes to getting fully working OpenGL 1.1 on our devices | 16:02 |
Murasaki | I just now downloaded the kernels and the rootfs. | 16:02 |
Murasaki | I don't rename anything, right? | 16:02 |
arrrghhh | rootfs is rootfs.img | 16:03 |
arrrghhh | zImage is zImage | 16:03 |
arrrghhh | don't rename modules. should be .tar.gz | 16:03 |
Murasaki | Alright. | 16:03 |
Murasaki | But when I download it, do I take off all the numbers and whatnot that shows it's the latest? | 16:03 |
testing | and dont get the latest rootfs | 16:04 |
Murasaki | Eh? | 16:04 |
testing | http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/rootfs-20110210-2cb7ec0.zip | 16:04 |
testing | get this one | 16:04 |
Murasaki | Alright | 16:04 |
testing | the latest rootfs has some issues | 16:04 |
arrrghhh | Murasaki, follow what i said. | 16:04 |
arrrghhh | zImage renamed | 16:04 |
arrrghhh | rootfs renamed | 16:04 |
Murasaki | Alright. | 16:05 |
arrrghhh | modules leave be | 16:05 |
Murasaki | Was just making sure, sorry. ;x | 16:05 |
rpierce99 | arrrghhh: if she started from the cab shouldn't she just download a package and start over? | 16:05 |
testing | just copy it | 16:05 |
arrrghhh | rpierce99, maybe. | 16:05 |
arrrghhh | who knows if the cab even worked. | 16:05 |
rpierce99 | exactly my point | 16:05 |
arrrghhh | if only i could read minds... | 16:05 |
rpierce99 | upgrading broken | 16:05 |
arrrghhh | eh, perhaps. | 16:05 |
Murasaki | Copied. | 16:05 |
arrrghhh | i think i shouldn't do any more support today. | 16:05 |
testing | are u refering to cab by OTA updates | 16:05 |
arrrghhh | testing, no | 16:05 |
testing | u mean the whole package of fxo4 | 16:06 |
arrrghhh | yes | 16:06 |
testing | okei | 16:06 |
testing | how do u know that she is she? | 16:06 |
testing | by name? | 16:06 |
rpierce99 | she has said it multiple times | 16:06 |
Murasaki | Awesome, I think everything is up to date now.. | 16:06 |
testing | aaaah | 16:07 |
testing | i get it | 16:07 |
Murasaki | o_o Eh? | 16:07 |
Murasaki | You kept calling me a he when I said I'm a girl like twice, lol. | 16:07 |
Murasaki | Not that it matters. But I don't have male genetalia. | 16:07 |
testing | i can guide her since she has a pure which is similar to mine | 16:07 |
testing | understood | 16:08 |
Murasaki | :D | 16:08 |
arrrghhh | Murasaki, most people on here are dudes. | 16:08 |
arrrghhh | in our defense :P | 16:08 |
Murasaki | Heh | 16:08 |
testing | male | 16:08 |
Nautis | hmm latest testing kernel you posted arrrghhh ends me at bash prompt | 16:08 |
Murasaki | Well. xD I'm a gamer, so I hear it all the time. No big deal. | 16:08 |
Tandyman100 | gamer chick | 16:08 |
arrrghhh | Nautis, patience | 16:08 |
Tandyman100 | :o | 16:08 |
Murasaki | Yus. | 16:08 |
testing | on xbox? | 16:08 |
Tandyman100 | AMAZOING | 16:08 |
arrrghhh | nogamesbox | 16:08 |
Tandyman100 | ^ | 16:08 |
testing | lol | 16:08 |
Murasaki | MMO's, mostly. D: | 16:08 |
Tandyman100 | Screw consoles, PC FTW | 16:09 |
testing | :-D | 16:09 |
Nautis | rgr | 16:09 |
Murasaki | Pc ftw indeed. | 16:09 |
testing | so is xandriod booting | 16:09 |
testing | well now | 16:09 |
Murasaki | Gonna get on that right now. I hung up last time, but I don't think I had copied and pasted startup.txt | 16:10 |
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Murasaki | /facepalm | 16:10 |
testing | wht about yur startup ? | 16:10 |
Murasaki | Made sure I moved startup.txt | 16:10 |
Murasaki | Pathed to andboot | 16:10 |
Murasaki | Should work this time. | 16:11 |
testing | the keyboard in gingerbread is so tiny | 16:11 |
Murasaki | Does no one else malfunction though? Or was that just because the rootfs and kernels were out of date? | 16:11 |
Murasaki | I like the keyboard that comes with this. | 16:11 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki: old kernels and rootfs will absolutely kill it, there has been a lot of recent progress on speed and stability | 16:12 |
Murasaki | OH. Testing, are you able to sync your facebook and contacts together by any chance? | 16:12 |
Murasaki | Awesome, so this should work nowww. | 16:12 |
testing | contacts sync | 16:12 |
testing | coz i stored them on gmail or google sync | 16:12 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki: assuming your system.ext2 is up to date | 16:12 |
Murasaki | When I went in settings; sync and what not, I clicked facebook and it goes back to the menu :/ | 16:13 |
testing | from my WinMo | 16:13 |
Murasaki | Yeah pierce, I have the final .ext2 | 16:13 |
rpierce99 | FRX04? | 16:13 |
Murasaki | Yus | 16:13 |
testing | i was going to ask just that | 16:13 |
testing | :) | 16:13 |
Murasaki | xD I'm not THAT incompetent | 16:13 |
manekineko | Facebook sync is broken | 16:13 |
Murasaki | Damnit, why? | 16:14 |
manekineko | most likely a build.prop issue actaully, but no one has bothered to figure out why | 16:14 |
testing | facebook sync> | 16:14 |
Murasaki | I used uh.. | 16:14 |
arrrghhh | fb sync is dumb | 16:14 |
Murasaki | Syncmypix or something | 16:14 |
arrrghhh | failbook | 16:14 |
Murasaki | It fails. | 16:14 |
manekineko | the Facebook app is poorly coded and checks for approved device names | 16:14 |
rpierce99 | facebook sync works for me | 16:14 |
Murasaki | I like the pictures. ): | 16:14 |
manekineko | and obviously our device is not in that list | 16:14 |
rpierce99 | not contacts, but i don't think so | 16:14 |
Murasaki | Where can I find fb sync? And does it cost? | 16:14 |
rpierce99 | err i don't think it is supposed to | 16:14 |
manekineko | rpierce99 really? you can add Facebook accounts? | 16:14 |
rpierce99 | it's just the facebook app in the market, and it's free | 16:14 |
rpierce99 | to the facebook app, yes | 16:14 |
manekineko | so you go to Settings => Accounts => Add and can choose Facebook? | 16:15 |
rpierce99 | no | 16:15 |
Murasaki | Fml, I really need a stylus.. | 16:15 |
manekineko | oh, so what do you have working then? | 16:15 |
manekineko | rpierc99 I mean | 16:15 |
Murasaki | Booting up haret. | 16:15 |
Murasaki | Facebook sync is an actual app, I believe | 16:15 |
Murasaki | I just can't find it. | 16:15 |
rpierce99 | I thought I read an article that said Google killed that because of facebooks unwillingness to make portable data | 16:15 |
manekineko | only on Nexus S | 16:16 |
testing | we can either choose google or corporate? | 16:16 |
manekineko | the kill is mainly symbolic to get it back in the news | 16:16 |
arrrghhh | testing, yes | 16:16 |
manekineko | testing: yes | 16:16 |
arrrghhh | lol | 16:16 |
Murasaki | *Confused* | 16:16 |
Tandyman100 | Just for lulz, where would I find the first build EVAR of xdandroid? | 16:16 |
Murasaki | Can't tell if Haret is hanging or not.. | 16:16 |
manekineko | Murasaki, for the pics syncing thing, I use https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nloko.android.syncmypix&feature=search_result | 16:16 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki: it's just called Facebook, once android is running stable for you, you can go hog wild on the market | 16:16 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki: what do you see | 16:17 |
manekineko | works fine for syncing Facebook contact pictures | 16:17 |
Murasaki | I downloaded that last night, mane. And the bastard kept syncing the wrong people. | 16:17 |
Murasaki | Even when I put their last name in my contacts. | 16:17 |
manekineko | you can alter who is links with who | 16:17 |
Murasaki | Didnt notice. I edited my contacts that were wrong, redid it, and it did the same people | 16:18 |
Murasaki | Nevermind, it's not hanging, was just sitting for a long time. | 16:18 |
Murasaki | Probably 'cause of the new files c: | 16:18 |
testing | u must be in the boot screen | 16:18 |
testing | check at the bottom | 16:19 |
rpierce99 | the first boot it creates a brand new 256MB data.img | 16:19 |
Murasaki | The underscore is still flashing if that's what you're asking for xD | 16:19 |
testing | does our build use the ext3 partition if its present? | 16:19 |
rpierce99 | no | 16:19 |
Murasaki | Hm, it stopped again.. | 16:20 |
Murasaki | Watching this thing like a hawk. | 16:20 |
rpierce99 | don't | 16:20 |
Murasaki | :c | 16:20 |
arrrghhh | lol | 16:20 |
rpierce99 | just let it go, 5 minutes tops | 16:20 |
rpierce99 | ok maybe not tops | 16:20 |
testing | so it must be loopback? | 16:20 |
Murasaki | I get impatient after doing this process for so many times | 16:20 |
Murasaki | It's moving again, no big deal. | 16:20 |
testing | :-D | 16:21 |
Murasaki | It's just a lot longer than when I had the old files. | 16:21 |
arrrghhh | 10 minutes tops i'd say | 16:21 |
testing | with the new gb build and .35 kernel xandroid will rock | 16:21 |
arrrghhh | Murasaki, first boot takes a lot longer | 16:21 |
arrrghhh | needs to create the data.img, etc. | 16:22 |
Murasaki | Yeah I figured that. But since I didn't know how to update before | 16:22 |
rpierce99 | arrrghhh: go make a router, no more support today remember | 16:22 |
arrrghhh | lol done with router | 16:22 |
arrrghhh | and ip phone | 16:22 |
Murasaki | I was using the files that actually came with the first froyo download | 16:22 |
Murasaki | So the installation was done in like 2 minutes | 16:22 |
arrrghhh | ... | 16:23 |
Murasaki | I'm so excited c: Thank god I randomly found this site, you guys are awesome for helping me. | 16:23 |
testing | welcome | 16:23 |
arrrghhh | lmao | 16:24 |
arrrghhh | i'm such an asshole... | 16:24 |
Murasaki | D: Why? | 16:24 |
testing | no u are shotgun | 16:24 |
arrrghhh | Murasaki, why? i guess blame my dad. | 16:25 |
Murasaki | Lmao | 16:25 |
Murasaki | Hm | 16:25 |
Murasaki | So what do you guys download for your xandroid to make it awesome? | 16:25 |
arrrghhh | uhm | 16:26 |
testing | murasaki , just checj if u have the wifi error issue yeah | 16:26 |
arrrghhh | xdandroid is awesome | 16:26 |
testing | i first of all get astro file manager | 16:26 |
arrrghhh | who uses wifi? rubes. | 16:26 |
testing | then install rest from my SD card | 16:26 |
testing | i do | 16:26 |
arrrghhh | RUBES | 16:26 |
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Murasaki | I use wifi in my house | 16:26 |
testing | seee | 16:26 |
Murasaki | Because this place is a deadzone | 16:26 |
testing | :-D | 16:26 |
arrrghhh | meh | 16:26 |
Murasaki | I only get 3g like MILES away from my house | 16:27 |
testing | and i am in expense zone | 16:27 |
testing | where are u from and now ? | 16:27 |
testing | located | 16:27 |
arrrghhh | oh well | 16:27 |
arrrghhh | too much fun | 16:27 |
testing | are u using GSM | 16:27 |
Murasaki | California | 16:27 |
arrrghhh | i'm goin home | 16:27 |
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Murasaki | D" | 16:27 |
Murasaki | D:* | 16:27 |
Murasaki | Well that's fail | 16:27 |
testing | ? | 16:27 |
Murasaki | He left us D: | 16:28 |
rpierce99 | he was at work | 16:28 |
Murasaki | Oh xD | 16:28 |
testing | lol | 16:28 |
testing | yup | 16:28 |
Murasaki | I'm just at home. Chillin. | 16:28 |
Murasaki | No class on fridaysss. | 16:28 |
Murasaki | Sore as a bitch though :c | 16:28 |
testing | so are u on yur home screen? | 16:29 |
testing | have u finally booted? | 16:29 |
Murasaki | I wish LOL | 16:29 |
Murasaki | Its still running | 16:29 |
testing | meaning? | 16:30 |
Murasaki | Haret, booting up | 16:30 |
odd | o.O | 16:30 |
Murasaki | Hai o_o | 16:30 |
testing | so u are still stuck somewhere? | 16:30 |
rpierce99 | you still see black screen w/ white letters? | 16:30 |
Murasaki | Eh, it moves when it wants to | 16:31 |
Murasaki | Yeah | 16:31 |
rpierce99 | yeah you're probably missing ts-calibration | 16:31 |
Murasaki | Its not stuck or anything though. It gradually moves | 16:31 |
rpierce99 | I know | 16:31 |
Murasaki | And idk how I'm missing it, I haven't even calibrated yet | 16:31 |
testing | so have u clicked on the boxes? | 16:31 |
Murasaki | That part hasn't come yet xD | 16:31 |
rpierce99 | the boxes don't show up on the new kernel | 16:31 |
Murasaki | Oh | 16:32 |
rpierce99 | you need a ts-calibration file from a topaz | 16:32 |
Murasaki | Lame.. | 16:32 |
Murasaki | Wish I knew that | 16:32 |
rpierce99 | well you can roll an old kernel, calibrate, and then upgrade if it's easier | 16:32 |
Murasaki | Well, what kernel doesn't show the boxes? | 16:33 |
Murasaki | All kernels after the first? Or? | 16:33 |
testing | or mat be u can take my calib file | 16:33 |
Murasaki | The latest one? | 16:33 |
Murasaki | If that's possible. Idk how I could just randomly input it though | 16:33 |
Murasaki | If it needs the calibrate file, wouldn't linux just hang? | 16:34 |
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rpierce99 | touch the corners of the screen, one of them should respond if it's waiting for calibration | 16:34 |
testing | in the newer kernel the screen get all garbbled up | 16:35 |
Murasaki | What is this.. Brendan Fraser day on cartoon network? | 16:35 |
Murasaki | I don't think its waiting | 16:35 |
Murasaki | I see the white scroll from time to time | 16:35 |
testing | touch the points and u are good to go | 16:35 |
rpierce99 | but she won't see the points, that's the problem | 16:36 |
rpierce99 | calibration will be all over the place | 16:36 |
Murasaki | Screen is black now | 16:36 |
rpierce99 | bootani, that's a good sign | 16:36 |
Murasaki | Ah, pressed the top button | 16:37 |
Murasaki | Nevermind :c | 16:37 |
Murasaki | This is taking like a decade | 16:38 |
testing | can we do a file sync on IRC | 16:38 |
rpierce99 | yeah it's not working | 16:38 |
rpierce99 | it should never take this long | 16:38 |
rpierce99 | reboot to winmo and look for a ts-calibration file in your andboot folder | 16:38 |
Murasaki | Blegh, all that progress and waiting | 16:38 |
Murasaki | Hit me with a file then | 16:38 |
rpierce99 | check and make sure you don't have one, want to be sure that's our issue | 16:39 |
Murasaki | I know I don't because I re-extracted from the original zip | 16:39 |
manekineko | she probably has the file now if she already touchedd the screen | 16:40 |
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manekineko | even if she couldn't see the points | 16:40 |
Murasaki | I didn't use the one I had from like, last night | 16:40 |
rpierce99 | manekineko: doesn't calibration time out though | 16:40 |
manekineko | I don't think so, I've seen it sit there a long time before | 16:40 |
manekineko | before I realized that I didn't have a calibration file | 16:40 |
Murasaki | I know I don't, lol | 16:41 |
Murasaki | I didnt think that would be an issue | 16:41 |
Murasaki | No one said anything before I booted Haret :P | 16:41 |
Murasaki | So who's forkin over the cal file? | 16:41 |
testing | u never aked | 16:42 |
testing | asked :) | 16:42 |
testing | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10960604#post10960604 | 16:42 |
Murasaki | Liar. D: | 16:42 |
testing | How to install Fx04 | 16:42 |
Murasaki | waitwhat | 16:42 |
testing | my whole easy to ready how to | 16:42 |
Murasaki | I have all of this though.. | 16:43 |
Murasaki | I thought I only needed one file | 16:43 |
rpierce99 | yeah that's all the stuff you already did | 16:43 |
testing | send me a pm with yur email id and i will email you my file | 16:43 |
rpierce99 | i don't see anything in there about ts-calibration | 16:43 |
Murasaki | Never did I lol | 16:44 |
Murasaki | Idc about my email being out there, lol | 16:44 |
Murasaki | Leahlimee@live.com | 16:44 |
testing | the file always gets created | 16:44 |
testing | when we boot | 16:44 |
testing | fresh | 16:44 |
rpierce99 | only if you can see the touch points | 16:44 |
rpierce99 | and touch them | 16:44 |
Murasaki | Yes, but not with the new files apparently | 16:44 |
rpierce99 | which you can't with the newer kernels | 16:44 |
Murasaki | I'd have to only get the first package and the new ext2 | 16:45 |
Murasaki | Then I'd have ts | 16:45 |
Murasaki | And I'd have to go back and do the kernels, etc. | 16:45 |
Murasaki | Just give me the one file. xD | 16:45 |
testing | wait | 16:46 |
Murasaki | Pokewars on facebook ;~; | 16:46 |
Murasaki | Killing me. | 16:46 |
Murasaki | Oh, has anyone tried the Words with Friends app here? | 16:47 |
rpierce99 | a couple of my friends have it and like it, I don't have any friends so it's pretty useless for me | 16:48 |
rpierce99 | wait that sentance was self-contradicting | 16:48 |
Murasaki | Thank you for the file, testing~ | 16:48 |
Murasaki | LOL | 16:48 |
Murasaki | /pat | 16:48 |
testing | so u got it thanks | 16:48 |
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testing | try it | 16:50 |
testing | just over ride yur file | 16:50 |
Murasaki | I didn't have the file to begin with lol | 16:51 |
Murasaki | Alright.. Lets see. | 16:52 |
testing | gotta go bye | 16:52 |
Murasaki | Bye, thanks for helping D: | 16:52 |
testing | email me with how it goes yeah | 16:52 |
testing | byeee alll | 16:52 |
testing | tnx | 16:52 |
Murasaki | Will do | 16:52 |
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Murasaki | Are you leaving too, Pierce? D: | 16:52 |
rpierce99 | no | 16:53 |
Murasaki | :D | 16:53 |
Murasaki | Alright so I rebooted haret.. | 16:54 |
Murasaki | Eta? :/ | 16:54 |
xtremist | anyway to make camera working | 16:54 |
xtremist | and long battery life | 16:54 |
xtremist | ?? | 16:54 |
rpierce99 | assuming it already built your data.img maybe 2 minutes | 16:54 |
Murasaki | Hoping so. | 16:55 |
Murasaki | I want my camera to work too, matter of fact | 16:55 |
manekineko | xtremist, maybe soon, they're in the process of merging in camera kernel to mainline | 16:55 |
Murasaki | Hm | 16:55 |
xtremist | and battery is the main problem | 16:56 |
xtremist | although m happy | 16:56 |
rpierce99 | the battery part depends on device though | 16:56 |
Murasaki | Howso? | 16:56 |
rpierce99 | we don't have hw docs for some of the devices the kernel supports | 16:56 |
xtremist | but battery drains to fast and yeah i using latest kernel but u knw when unlocking my screen by pressing power button my screen turns black to i hv to press any button to make it nrmal | 16:56 |
rpierce99 | without hw docs we can't turn the panel off all the way | 16:56 |
xtremist | m using diamond100 | 16:57 |
rpierce99 | so for the devices that we DO have docs for, panel off = good battery, otherwise on or off it's not good | 16:57 |
Murasaki | Which have docs then? | 16:57 |
stinebd | rhod | 16:57 |
Murasaki | Figures | 16:58 |
xtremist | and whts about diaond screen issue >? | 16:58 |
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Murasaki | I bought this HTC pure for 40 bucks from someone | 16:58 |
Murasaki | So I'm trying to bear with it | 16:58 |
Aks_ | am trying to run 12-Feb-2011 GB build but fails on bootup says "can't find rootfs" - anything on this ? i m running rhod400 | 16:59 |
Murasaki | I think Haret is gonna do the same thing, even though I have ts cal.. | 16:59 |
manekineko | Aks_, umm do you have a rootfs? | 16:59 |
Aks_ | n thrs no ts calib in the zip | 16:59 |
Aks_ | i hv rootfs in the dir | 17:00 |
rpierce99 | Aks_: assuming you're reading the thread you should have seen the file attached, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951817 | 17:01 |
manekineko | did you stick it in a folder? if so, do you have a rel_path in your startup.txt? | 17:01 |
Murasaki | Its been 12 minutes, still on Haret :/ | 17:02 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki: just so you know, haret only lasted 1 sec, as soon as you hit black screen, you were in kernel | 17:03 |
xtremist | i hope someone will make nand soon | 17:03 |
xtremist | and a good battery life | 17:03 |
xtremist | and diamond black screen issue | 17:04 |
Murasaki | Okay, well I've been staring at white text for 14 minutes | 17:04 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki: where did you put ts-calibration | 17:04 |
Murasaki | In the root | 17:04 |
rpierce99 | is that where haret and zImage are? | 17:04 |
Murasaki | Yes | 17:04 |
rpierce99 | and it doesn't have a file extension | 17:04 |
rpierce99 | no .txt or anything | 17:04 |
Murasaki | No, just said ts-calibration | 17:05 |
Murasaki | Wait a sec.. | 17:07 |
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Murasaki | I really hope I'm wrong right now lol | 17:08 |
Aks_ | was w/o CAPS in there :) | 17:08 |
Aks_ | ny1 tried oc on it yet? | 17:08 |
rpierce99 | Aks_: OC works fine as long as you use startup.txt | 17:09 |
rpierce99 | setCPU et al don't work | 17:09 |
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rpierce99 | see Murasaki arrrghhh is back now | 17:09 |
rpierce99 | arrrghhh: she was very sad when you left | 17:10 |
Murasaki | LOL BE QUIET | 17:10 |
arrrghhh | lolwut | 17:10 |
arrrghhh | i am dead sexy. | 17:10 |
Murasaki | I'm such an idiot though | 17:10 |
Murasaki | I put ts cal in the andboot folder of my COMPUTER | 17:10 |
Murasaki | Not my sd card.. | 17:10 |
Murasaki | Figures | 17:10 |
arrrghhh | lolz | 17:10 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki: no offense but we kind of expect that these days | 17:10 |
Murasaki | Rofl | 17:10 |
Murasaki | That hurts | 17:10 |
Murasaki | No sandwich for you. | 17:10 |
arrrghhh | yea, i basically assume people are doing it wrong. | 17:10 |
rpierce99 | the idiot thing, not the andboot thing, that's a new one for me :) | 17:10 |
arrrghhh | they are in here | 17:10 |
arrrghhh | if they were doing it right, they probably wouldn't be asking questions in here :P | 17:11 |
Murasaki | I came here after almost having a mental breakdown lol | 17:12 |
Murasaki | I was scrolling ANY site that had to do with xandroid | 17:12 |
Murasaki | And I came across the main page of this and saw a chat feature | 17:12 |
arrrghhh | xtremist: please don't pm me unsolicited. | 17:12 |
xtremist | sry | 17:13 |
Aks_ | whadya epect arghhh ... look @ his name :D | 17:13 |
manekineko | arrrghhh, ever consider sticking device specific ts_calibration files in the device folders with the startup.txts? | 17:13 |
manekineko | might save a lot of support | 17:13 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 17:13 |
arrrghhh | i have device-specific ts-calibration files in the thread | 17:13 |
manekineko | yeah, but seems like half the support these days surrounds the separately downloaded ts-calibration | 17:14 |
arrrghhh | yea | 17:14 |
arrrghhh | bleh | 17:14 |
manekineko | heh | 17:14 |
Murasaki | Alright.. One more time | 17:14 |
arrrghhh | i'll just put mine in there | 17:14 |
arrrghhh | screw other devices. | 17:14 |
arrrghhh | :P | 17:14 |
manekineko | lol | 17:14 |
rpierce99 | we just need the calibration from SPL that ACL has been working on | 17:14 |
arrrghhh | stinebd is rolling over right now | 17:14 |
arrrghhh | rpierce99: i think that'll only apply to nand. | 17:14 |
arrrghhh | perhaps not tho, that would be nice. | 17:14 |
stinebd | why would it only apply to nand? | 17:15 |
Murasaki | Wish me luck :/ | 17:15 |
rpierce99 | i don't know a lot about any of that nand spl business, but I would think if the kernel could read spl it wouldn't matter where it was booted from | 17:15 |
arrrghhh | stinebd: just assuming that's where it'll go first. | 17:15 |
arrrghhh | oh yea no limitation on where it goes | 17:15 |
arrrghhh | i'm just assuming that only the NAND tree will use it. | 17:16 |
arrrghhh | although there's rumblings of merging the NAND tree with haret moving forward to .35. | 17:16 |
arrrghhh | that would be nice, if possible. | 17:16 |
TheDeadCPU | sjkdfgkasd | 17:17 |
Murasaki | Gonna be irritated if this takes another twenty minutes | 17:17 |
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arrrghhh | get your money back Murasaki | 17:18 |
Murasaki | ;[ | 17:18 |
Murasaki | I bought this Pure for forty bucks from someone | 17:18 |
Murasaki | I was close to breaking my Samsung Solstice | 17:18 |
MassStash | arrrghhh, what's you think bout battery meter, seems more accurate to me | 17:19 |
arrrghhh | wha? | 17:20 |
arrrghhh | no work has been done on battery meter as of yet. | 17:20 |
Tandyman100 | magic | 17:20 |
arrrghhh | at least nothing that would be tangible to the end user (us) | 17:20 |
rpierce99 | arrrghhh: that statement is not true, but nothing in a published kernel afaik | 17:20 |
arrrghhh | damnit jim. | 17:20 |
stinebd | hehe | 17:20 |
arrrghhh | i knew some smart ass was going to chime in | 17:20 |
arrrghhh | :P | 17:20 |
* rpierce99 is a smart ass, better than a dumb ass i suppose | 17:21 | |
arrrghhh | indeed. | 17:21 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki: any luck? | 17:21 |
arrrghhh | i'm a smart ass too, hence the reason i amended my statement. | 17:21 |
Murasaki | Android is not making me happy right now | 17:21 |
arrrghhh | WinMo's only a horrible reboot away | 17:22 |
Murasaki | :/ | 17:22 |
Murasaki | I've restarted this 3 times | 17:22 |
arrrghhh | hey, i'm just sayin you've got options. | 17:22 |
Murasaki | And its still taking years | 17:22 |
arrrghhh | no as in use WinMo if Android is giving you grief. | 17:22 |
arrrghhh | years? | 17:22 |
Murasaki | I don't like winmo or I wouldn't be here. | 17:22 |
arrrghhh | are you a drama queen? | 17:22 |
arrrghhh | no fatties or drama queens allowed in here. except for stinebd, who is both. | 17:23 |
Murasaki | Lol | 17:23 |
stinebd | got the market cornered | 17:23 |
rpierce99 | i wish i could QFT that statement | 17:23 |
arrrghhh | lol | 17:23 |
arrrghhh | Murasaki: what's the problem? it's just taking a while to boot? | 17:23 |
Murasaki | Argh hasn't been sitting here through my grief, so I'll just ignore that statement | 17:23 |
arrrghhh | dowhat | 17:24 |
rpierce99 | arrrghhh: new kernel, i think it's prompting for calibration, but ts-calibration *SHOULD* be in the proper place now | 17:24 |
arrrghhh | i was here for some of it | 17:24 |
arrrghhh | oic | 17:24 |
rpierce99 | it's just sitting there scrolling every now and then | 17:24 |
arrrghhh | i caught the tail end of that | 17:24 |
arrrghhh | tap the screen a few times, see if it moves forward | 17:24 |
Aks_ | arrrghhh:can you put out your ts-calib somewhere I can pick up from | 17:24 |
arrrghhh | Murasaki: ts-calibration doesn't have a .txt extension does it? | 17:24 |
Murasaki | Nothing | 17:24 |
Murasaki | No | 17:24 |
arrrghhh | Aks_: it's in all my threads | 17:24 |
arrrghhh | depending on your phone. | 17:24 |
Murasaki | Its everything else but .txt | 17:25 |
Murasaki | Its just a file | 17:25 |
arrrghhh | Murasaki: ok, where did you put it and where are you running haret.exe from? | 17:25 |
Murasaki | Moving again | 17:25 |
rpierce99 | arrrghhh: both in root | 17:25 |
arrrghhh | lies | 17:25 |
arrrghhh | ALL LIES | 17:25 |
arrrghhh | is it creating a data.img? | 17:25 |
rpierce99 | wait | 17:25 |
Murasaki | How would I know, lol | 17:25 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki: you said you put the file in andboot on your local pc, but you're running from root | 17:25 |
Murasaki | Its just been scrolling for the past ten minutes | 17:26 |
rpierce99 | why would you put it in andboot at all | 17:26 |
stinebd | pebkac | 17:26 |
arrrghhh | well, yea. | 17:26 |
Murasaki | When I had everything on my desktop.. | 17:26 |
Aks_ | arrrghhh:sorry came in today after a long time ... can u give url? | 17:26 |
arrrghhh | we just need to narrow where the E is stinebd | 17:26 |
arrrghhh | Aks_: damnit jim | 17:26 |
Murasaki | Alright. So the little tux icon is gone now | 17:26 |
Murasaki | Thats new | 17:26 |
rpierce99 | arrrghhh: e=exists | 17:26 |
arrrghhh | what device | 17:26 |
arrrghhh | er | 17:26 |
arrrghhh | the P | 17:26 |
arrrghhh | lol | 17:27 |
arrrghhh | need to figure out where the problem exists? | 17:27 |
arrrghhh | can't really save that f-up. | 17:27 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki: you either hit bootani (good) or you turned the screen off again (bad) | 17:27 |
arrrghhh | lol | 17:27 |
Murasaki | Bootani..? | 17:27 |
rpierce99 | boot animation | 17:27 |
rpierce99 | for some people that means little flying androids, for others (when 3d is broken) it means a black screen | 17:28 |
Murasaki | Well opposed to the previous boots | 17:28 |
arrrghhh | oh i <3 our random obsecure terminology | 17:28 |
Murasaki | The penguin in the corner never left | 17:28 |
Murasaki | Now it's gone | 17:28 |
arrrghhh | fucking penguin | 17:28 |
Murasaki | Which is good, right? | 17:28 |
rpierce99 | is it still scrolling white text? | 17:28 |
Murasaki | And it's still scrolling | 17:28 |
rpierce99 | then no it's not good | 17:28 |
rpierce99 | it just means you've waited longer | 17:28 |
arrrghhh | patienence! | 17:28 |
rpierce99 | and the penguin fell off the top | 17:29 |
arrrghhh | er | 17:29 |
arrrghhh | however you spell it | 17:29 |
stinebd | poor tux | 17:29 |
Murasaki | Well pierce keeps telling me to stop it | 17:29 |
arrrghhh | i just am having a bad day today i guess. | 17:29 |
Murasaki | So let me know what do to | 17:29 |
arrrghhh | good think i have the next week off. | 17:29 |
Murasaki | It doesnt appear to be scrolling anymore | 17:29 |
rpierce99 | it's been > 15 minutes each time arrrghhh | 17:29 |
arrrghhh | Oo | 17:29 |
arrrghhh | Murasaki: so it's all at the root of your SD rigth? | 17:29 |
arrrghhh | er right | 17:29 |
arrrghhh | reboot to winmo, need to check if there's a data.img | 17:29 |
arrrghhh | i wonder if that's before or after ts-calib | 17:30 |
Murasaki | Other than being in the folder ANDBOOT, which is in the root, yes | 17:30 |
Murasaki | And my startup is pathed to root | 17:30 |
rpierce99 | lollerskates | 17:30 |
Murasaki | Why do I have to keep starting over lol.. | 17:30 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki: if haret.exe and zImage are in the root, everything needs to be in the root | 17:30 |
rpierce99 | no andboot | 17:30 |
arrrghhh | zomg that's not the root | 17:31 |
arrrghhh | andboot is andboot | 17:31 |
Murasaki | They said it could be in the folder | 17:31 |
Murasaki | Ugh | 17:31 |
arrrghhh | it can be | 17:31 |
arrrghhh | but you have to adjust a value in the startup.txt | 17:31 |
arrrghhh | otherwise android doesn't know where to find things | 17:31 |
rpierce99 | and move everything | 17:31 |
Murasaki | *Starts over, for the 342932 millionth time* | 17:31 |
arrrghhh | jeebus | 17:31 |
arrrghhh | you are a drama queen | 17:31 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki: it only takes 1 time doing it right :) | 17:31 |
arrrghhh | you need to take it one step at a time | 17:31 |
stinebd | reading alleviates these problems | 17:31 |
arrrghhh | have you seen my 12-step program? | 17:31 |
arrrghhh | i have no clue how many steps it is actually | 17:32 |
arrrghhh | but it does walk you thru the install | 17:32 |
rpierce99 | arrrghhh: it's a pure, you didn't post a pure walktrhough or topaz i don't htink | 17:32 |
arrrghhh | meh | 17:32 |
Murasaki | Ive been taking it one step at a time for like 3 days now. If you're just going to call me out of my name, you don't have to talk to me.. | 17:32 |
arrrghhh | it applies to any device | 17:32 |
Murasaki | It's really not helping | 17:32 |
arrrghhh | rpierce99: tons of schmos have used my "guide" | 17:32 |
arrrghhh | Murasaki: we're trying to help you | 17:32 |
arrrghhh | but you're not answering our questions honestly or correctly. | 17:32 |
arrrghhh | if you don't know, say i don't know | 17:32 |
arrrghhh | and we'll try to explain it to you | 17:33 |
Murasaki | Saying "God you're such a drama queen" isn't helping me, lol. Its making me rather agitated. I said I'm new to the system and I keep getting falsely lead. | 17:33 |
arrrghhh | falsely led | 17:33 |
Murasaki | I was told that the files being in the ANDBOOT folder of the root was okay, as long as the startup.txt was pathed to it | 17:33 |
stinebd | thicken your skin. nobody is falsely leading you. | 17:34 |
arrrghhh | that's rather rude, i don't think anyone has "falsely led" you | 17:34 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki: that is true, but you also told me that haret and zImage are in the root | 17:34 |
rpierce99 | which will not work if startup.txt is pointing to andboot | 17:34 |
arrrghhh | Murasaki: you can put Android ANYWHERE. you just have to tell the system where you've placed it. | 17:34 |
arrrghhh | rel_path= statement. it's one of the steps in my guide... | 17:34 |
Murasaki | Everything was in the andboot folder together on the root of my sd card | 17:34 |
arrrghhh | so you need the rel_path=andboot in your startup.txt | 17:35 |
arrrghhh | otherwise... it won't boot! | 17:35 |
Murasaki | Its there | 17:35 |
Murasaki | Like I said, its there | 17:35 |
arrrghhh | ok | 17:35 |
arrrghhh | where | 17:35 |
Murasaki | I' said that earlier | 17:35 |
arrrghhh | after set cmdline | 17:35 |
arrrghhh | in between the quotes | 17:35 |
arrrghhh | spaces between each entry etc? | 17:35 |
Murasaki | Yes, its the last command | 17:35 |
arrrghhh | ok... | 17:35 |
rpierce99 | ok, to be clear, yes or no, zImage, modules, startup.txt, haret, ts-calibration, rootfs.img, system.ext2, are all in /sdcard/andboot/ | 17:35 |
arrrghhh | and ts-calibration is in the andboot folder? | 17:35 |
arrrghhh | ^^ this | 17:36 |
Murasaki | I'll just get rid of it since its such a bother | 17:36 |
arrrghhh | ... | 17:36 |
arrrghhh | you just need to put everything in andboot | 17:36 |
arrrghhh | if you want to use andboot for your folder | 17:36 |
arrrghhh | i have my builds 2 folders deep | 17:36 |
arrrghhh | and it works great, so long as rel_path is properly set. | 17:36 |
rpierce99 | arrrghhh: it's possible that her startup.txt was corrupted by a rogue text editor, probably good to move it to root and use the default | 17:36 |
Murasaki | Nothing was ever outside of the ANDBOOT folder. Its been in the ANDBOOT folder since 9am, when I started working on it | 17:36 |
arrrghhh | ok | 17:36 |
arrrghhh | rpierce99: bleh, you're right. | 17:37 |
Murasaki | I didn't have a problem with Android until I downloaded the newer files | 17:37 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 17:37 |
arrrghhh | then perhaps you updated incorrectly... | 17:37 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki: move everything out of andboot to the root, then delete your startup.txt and replace it with the default one that came in the package for your PURE | 17:37 |
arrrghhh | crap, which rootfs did you download? | 17:37 |
Murasaki | I downloaded and replaced like I was told and changed the root and the other files name accordingly | 17:37 |
arrrghhh | http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/rootfs-20110210-2cb7ec0.zip <---- grab that one | 17:38 |
arrrghhh | if you got 224, it'll fail. | 17:38 |
arrrghhh | although it should boot | 17:38 |
arrrghhh | so that's probably not the problem. | 17:38 |
arrrghhh | i guess we'll just assume that notepad messed up the startup.txt | 17:38 |
Murasaki | Its not, testing gave me 2-10 and I used it instead of 24 | 17:39 |
arrrghhh | good | 17:39 |
arrrghhh | so move everything from andboot | 17:39 |
arrrghhh | to the root of the SD | 17:39 |
arrrghhh | remove the rel_path statement from your startup.txt | 17:39 |
arrrghhh | and try again | 17:39 |
Murasaki | Is it possible that testing's ts-cal file is no good? | 17:39 |
stinebd | you people are boring and this build is taking a while so i'm gonna play some zelda 2 and get angry | 17:39 |
arrrghhh | lol | 17:39 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki: ignore what arrrghhh said about editing startup.txt, delete it and put the default one in its place | 17:39 |
arrrghhh | Murasaki: possibly, yes. | 17:40 |
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arrrghhh | lol i guess that would be a better course of action. | 17:40 |
arrrghhh | i'll just let rpierce99 do my job. i'm sucking at it today. | 17:40 |
stinebd | ignore arrrghhh is always fun | 17:40 |
arrrghhh | lol | 17:40 |
Murasaki | I believe the default .txt came with the rel_path, anyway | 17:41 |
Murasaki | So.. | 17:41 |
arrrghhh | wasn't mine then | 17:41 |
rpierce99 | oh well then just make sure to edit it in notepad and save a straight text | 17:41 |
arrrghhh | rpierce99: extra carriage returns won't mess it up | 17:41 |
arrrghhh | are you thinking a word processor saved it in a different format? | 17:41 |
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rpierce99 | arrrghhh: i edited mine from winmo once and it added crazy characters | 17:42 |
arrrghhh | that would be... odd. but i guess anything's possible. | 17:42 |
Murasaki | Going through my downloads | 17:42 |
arrrghhh | rpierce99: wtf? i always edit from winmo | 17:42 |
arrrghhh | oh | 17:42 |
arrrghhh | but i make sure to hit NO when it asks if it should convert it | 17:42 |
rpierce99 | see | 17:42 |
arrrghhh | heh you converted it | 17:42 |
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arrrghhh | :P | 17:42 |
rpierce99 | seriously though, I wouldn't be surprised if MS word or wordpad screwed up a file or two | 17:43 |
Murasaki | Should I just.. Idk, boot the haret with the old files first, get my own ts-cal, then upgrade my files? | 17:44 |
arrrghhh | sounds good | 17:44 |
stinebd | damn it, just as i start playing it finishes | 17:45 |
arrrghhh | save that ts-calib everywhere | 17:45 |
arrrghhh | in like 15 places | 17:45 |
Murasaki | Lol | 17:45 |
arrrghhh | you can reuse it again and again, assuming you make a good one. | 17:45 |
Murasaki | Wtf, its hailing outside | 17:45 |
Murasaki | I make excellent ts-cals | 17:45 |
stinebd | no, it's just really big sleet | 17:45 |
Murasaki | Naw dude, that was straight hail :c | 17:45 |
Murasaki | Its pelting my poor car.. | 17:45 |
arrrghhh | garage ftw | 17:46 |
stinebd | go go gadget gingerbread | 17:47 |
Murasaki | My grandma wont let me use it | 17:47 |
arrrghhh | gapps fix stinebd? | 17:47 |
arrrghhh | grandma | 17:47 |
Murasaki | So.. Copying everything to the root now | 17:47 |
stinebd | doubtful | 17:47 |
arrrghhh | aw | 17:47 |
Aks_ | my butterfingers cant calibrate the screen :D | 17:48 |
arrrghhh | lol | 17:48 |
stinebd | i don't understand how ezterry's tree would work but ours wouldn't with the same source changes | 17:48 |
stinebd | for instance, right now i'm getting zygote crashes in libwebcore | 17:49 |
rpierce99 | stinebd: I thought it was some external process got upgraded or something, i know that's super helpful | 17:49 |
Murasaki | set ramsize 0x10000000 set ramaddr 0x10000000 set mtype 2293 set KERNEL zImage set initrd initrd.gz set cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmvkeyb_toggle=off sensor=topaz rel_path=andboot" boot | 17:49 |
Murasaki | This came in my startup | 17:49 |
rpierce99 | something seems missing there | 17:49 |
rpierce99 | and the rel_path needs to go away now | 17:49 |
Murasaki | Kay | 17:49 |
Murasaki | Deleted | 17:50 |
rpierce99 | pm.sleep_mode=1 | 17:50 |
rpierce99 | add that | 17:50 |
Murasaki | At the end is fine? | 17:51 |
rpierce99 | right where rel_path was | 17:51 |
Murasaki | Anything else? | 17:51 |
Murasaki | eeee, thunder storm | 17:51 |
Murasaki | Now I'm happy | 17:51 |
rpierce99 | there's not gsensor_axis, msmkeyb_toggle, hw3d.force, or physkeyboard in there, but I don't know if PURE needs them | 17:52 |
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Murasaki | Well pure is strictly touchscreen | 17:52 |
Murasaki | I have gsensor on winmo | 17:53 |
rpierce99 | ok so the keyboard ones are out then | 17:53 |
Murasaki | Should it be in there? | 17:53 |
rpierce99 | probably, but i don't know the right values for a pure | 17:53 |
Murasaki | Hm, let me check for it on my phone | 17:53 |
arrrghhh | so is hw3d force | 17:54 |
arrrghhh | no longer needed | 17:54 |
rpierce99 | so that just leaves gsensor_axis | 17:54 |
arrrghhh | is it the same as RHOD? | 17:55 |
arrrghhh | i dunno | 17:55 |
rpierce99 | no idea | 17:55 |
arrrghhh | my package includes startups | 17:55 |
rpierce99 | either way it wouldn't break boot | 17:55 |
arrrghhh | ... | 17:55 |
rpierce99 | so whatevs | 17:55 |
arrrghhh | no | 17:55 |
arrrghhh | just make for a f-ed up g-sensor lol | 17:55 |
Murasaki | o_o | 17:56 |
Murasaki | Well, the app in my phone just calibrates it automatically | 17:56 |
Murasaki | And theres no settings for it | 17:56 |
arrrghhh | stinebd: you must read this madness http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969761 | 17:56 |
rpierce99 | yeah, it's not a calibration, it's just the axis | 17:56 |
rpierce99 | don't worry about it | 17:56 |
arrrghhh | ^^ | 17:56 |
rpierce99 | paste your file in here one more time just to make sure | 17:57 |
Murasaki | set ramsize 0x10000000 set ramaddr 0x10000000 set mtype 2293 set KERNEL zImage set initrd initrd.gz set cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmvkeyb_toggle=off sensor=topaz pm.sleep_mode=1" boot | 17:58 |
rpierce99 | they aren't all on the same line like that in the file right? | 17:58 |
Murasaki | Nah | 17:58 |
arrrghhh | lol in windows they might be | 17:58 |
arrrghhh | heh | 17:58 |
arrrghhh | do the caps matter in the startup? | 17:59 |
rpierce99 | it's a linux cmd line so I'm guessing it does | 17:59 |
rpierce99 | yeah it does, because physkeyboard is case sensetive options | 17:59 |
arrrghhh | in the cmdline, yes case matters | 17:59 |
arrrghhh | but like set INITRD | 17:59 |
arrrghhh | etc | 17:59 |
rpierce99 | i'm no linux expert, i thought everything was CS in linux | 18:00 |
Murasaki | KERNEL is the only thing capitalized here | 18:00 |
rpierce99 | that's how mine is too | 18:00 |
rpierce99 | so all of the files are in the root of the sd now? | 18:00 |
arrrghhh | i think only the cmdline is case senstive | 18:00 |
Murasaki | I figured, my folder was ANDBOOT and I had it capitalized in the cmd line too | 18:01 |
arrrghhh | ja | 18:02 |
arrrghhh | ppl have had issues putting "Tilt2" as the physkeyboard | 18:02 |
arrrghhh | cuz it's tilt2 | 18:02 |
arrrghhh | lol | 18:02 |
rpierce99 | F22 had issues with b4HOME | 18:02 |
arrrghhh | indeedy | 18:03 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki: you never answered, everything moved to root now? | 18:03 |
F22 | i did? | 18:03 |
rpierce99 | people in your thread pointed out that the file had the wrong case or something | 18:04 |
F22 | i misworded the instructions | 18:04 |
F22 | in two places | 18:04 |
Murasaki | I said in the very beginning I got rid of the folder and that everything was in the root lol | 18:05 |
F22 | i fixed the first, but then people were still having issues until i noticed the second and fixed that too. | 18:05 |
Murasaki | Copied the new startup.txt into the root as well | 18:05 |
Murasaki | Shall I boot haret now to get my ts then proceed with upgrading the kernel and rootfs? | 18:06 |
rpierce99 | F22: I don't mean to be a dick but http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11135476&highlight=b4home#post11135476 | 18:06 |
arrrghhh | but, you do | 18:07 |
rpierce99 | i just wanted to make sure my memory wasn't playing tricks on me | 18:07 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki: go for it | 18:07 |
rpierce99 | you have ts-calibration in there too right | 18:08 |
rpierce99 | :) | 18:08 |
arrrghhh | i think she's going to create one | 18:08 |
arrrghhh | with old kernel | 18:08 |
rpierce99 | oh | 18:08 |
arrrghhh | so it s/b fine | 18:08 |
arrrghhh | stupid .35 fb | 18:08 |
rpierce99 | which old kernel are you trying Murasaki | 18:08 |
arrrghhh | acl just slammed that bastage into .27 | 18:08 |
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Murasaki | The one that came with the installation.. | 18:09 |
arrrghhh | Murasaki: how do we know what installation you have | 18:09 |
F22 | rpierce: yes, linux is case-sensitive. although honestly, i could make it more forgiving in the version i'm about to release. | 18:09 |
rpierce99 | can you tell me the modules file name if you have it handy | 18:09 |
Murasaki | modules-2.6.27.46-01165-gfc1639f.tar | 18:09 |
arrrghhh | ooooold | 18:10 |
Murasaki | Like I said | 18:10 |
arrrghhh | good | 18:10 |
Murasaki | The one it came with.. | 18:10 |
arrrghhh | run it, get a ts-calib | 18:10 |
arrrghhh | Murasaki: lol again we have no idea which you downloaded. | 18:10 |
Murasaki | And it worked, but when it got bugged, it was slow and very unresponsive | 18:10 |
Murasaki | Idk, ReWind posted it | 18:10 |
Murasaki | I can go and find it | 18:11 |
rpierce99 | F22: i have no problem, I was just trying to help arrrghhh determine whether cmdline was case sensitive, and used your issues as an example | 18:11 |
Murasaki | Its like the first build underrr.. | 18:11 |
Murasaki | HTC Topaz | 18:11 |
bear_ | Have a question, was able to finally get the VZW TP2 Rhod500 working great with droid, except that it is telling me that I am out of memory, running it of a 32gb micro sdhc card is especially stating that I do not have any more room for text messages after about 7 txt messages | 18:11 |
arrrghhh | uhm | 18:11 |
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arrrghhh | how many apps do you have installed bear_? | 18:12 |
ryanaathome | Hi? | 18:12 |
bear_ | um not sure got a lil market happy but was installing all of them to the SD | 18:12 |
arrrghhh | howdy | 18:12 |
rpierce99 | bear_: it's not the size of the SD card, linux runs from a 256MB file on the SD card | 18:12 |
F22 | rpierce: ahh, lol, should have read more of your conversation first before responding. no problem. | 18:12 |
ryanaathome | I have an issue, and need a bit of help | 18:12 |
arrrghhh | bear_: they all go to sd, data.img. | 18:12 |
arrrghhh | + what rpierce99 said bear_:P | 18:12 |
Murasaki | Going to run haret if there's no rebuttal | 18:12 |
rpierce99 | none here | 18:12 |
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ryanaathome | I have a screen issue | 18:12 |
rpierce99 | bear_: there is a program that will increase the size of your data.img | 18:13 |
rpierce99 | otherwise remove some apps | 18:13 |
arrrghhh | indeed | 18:13 |
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arrrghhh | ryanaathome: let me guess. CDMA RAPH or DIAM | 18:13 |
bear_ | awesome, is it a market app or an app to run on my system | 18:13 |
ryanaathome | is there an application that will help calibrate the screen when running Android on HTC touch Pro (Raph800) | 18:13 |
arrrghhh | bear_: thread on xda-devs | 18:13 |
rpierce99 | no it runs in windows | 18:13 |
rpierce99 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824154 | 18:13 |
bear_ | Thank you, very much | 18:14 |
arrrghhh | ryanaathome: touchscreen is off? | 18:14 |
arrrghhh | or does the actual screen get split? | 18:14 |
Murasaki | Got my ts-cal now | 18:14 |
ryanaathome | No. It does not register my touch. | 18:14 |
Murasaki | See, thats how long I wanted the other kernel to take | 18:14 |
ryanaathome | arrrghhh: When I touch one thing, it goes to another thing on another part of the screen | 18:15 |
rpierce99 | ryanaathome: that's how you calibrate | 18:15 |
rpierce99 | you have to touch 5 points | 18:15 |
ryanaathome | arrrghhh: no.. this is while IN android. | 18:15 |
arrrghhh | ryanaathome: you can either download a ts-calibration file | 18:15 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki: now that you have a calibration, get off that horrible old kernel | 18:15 |
ryanaathome | arrrghhh: like, when I press Menu to go to settings, if I tap SETTINGS, it goes to wallpapers | 18:15 |
arrrghhh | or use an older kernel and generate your own | 18:15 |
ryanaathome | Murasaki: ,... | 18:16 |
arrrghhh | ryanaathome: ok, makes sense. you can do either of those things. | 18:16 |
Murasaki | I'm not pro with this if you haven't noticed | 18:16 |
Murasaki | Sorry, wha? | 18:16 |
ryanaathome | arrrghhh: Where would this ts-calibration file be? | 18:16 |
ryanaathome | (sorry I am new to this) | 18:16 |
arrrghhh | ryanaathome: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=951981 | 18:16 |
Murasaki | Alright so | 18:16 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki: you have a calibration file, boot back to winmo, delete zImage and modules, and replace with the new and updated ones | 18:16 |
Murasaki | I can just shut off this android boot screen? | 18:16 |
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arrrghhh | Murasaki: the flying text? no. you must not only deal with it, you must enjoy it. | 18:17 |
ryanaathome | I don't follow on that | 18:17 |
rpierce99 | won't hurt to wait until you get an unlock screen, but once you hit flying androids is probably safe | 18:17 |
stinebd | arrrghhh: why did i must read that? | 18:17 |
Murasaki | Thats what I was referring to | 18:17 |
arrrghhh | stinebd: there's one nugget of info | 18:17 |
Murasaki | But its already on the screen | 18:17 |
Murasaki | I'll just power off | 18:17 |
stinebd | arrrghhh: no it isn't | 18:17 |
stinebd | it's a nugget of kinda almost info | 18:18 |
arrrghhh | lol | 18:18 |
arrrghhh | you know the bug tho | 18:18 |
arrrghhh | yes? | 18:18 |
stinebd | no | 18:18 |
arrrghhh | ryanaathome: read step 5.... | 18:18 |
Murasaki | Lolol, I just read what you said argh | 18:18 |
Murasaki | You're weird | 18:18 |
arrrghhh | you're a towel | 18:18 |
Murasaki | Shaddao | 18:18 |
Murasaki | p* | 18:18 |
ryanaathome | ok | 18:18 |
stinebd | i for one am quite fond of towels | 18:18 |
Murasaki | So what about rootfs? Delete that too? | 18:19 |
stinebd | they rub my body and make me dry | 18:19 |
rpierce99 | as long as it's updated, leave it | 18:19 |
natemcnutty | unless they are a moist towel | 18:19 |
stinebd | yeah those bastards are no good | 18:19 |
natemcnutty | except when you eat ribs | 18:19 |
Murasaki | Its the one from August.. | 18:19 |
Murasaki | So.. delete? | 18:19 |
arrrghhh | lmao | 18:19 |
stinebd | august?! | 18:19 |
bear_ | Thank You all Very much, have another question, with the newest build does the headphone jack work? thought I had the newest version but i had something plugged in and did not seem to work wondering if something special has to be done, | 18:19 |
arrrghhh | @stinebd | 18:19 |
rpierce99 | holy cow, the d/l of the kernel and xdandroid gits just finished, that only took like 4 hours | 18:20 |
natemcnutty | bear_: what device? | 18:20 |
bear_ | RHOD500 | 18:20 |
bear_ | TP2 | 18:20 |
arrrghhh | no | 18:20 |
natemcnutty | not yet | 18:20 |
arrrghhh | not yet | 18:20 |
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arrrghhh | extUSB works | 18:20 |
natemcnutty | blackstone yes, rhod no | 18:20 |
arrrghhh | that stupid bastard dongle thing | 18:20 |
Murasaki | Like what do people not understand about this kernel being OLD l: All the files are OLD. | 18:20 |
bear_ | so headphone works thought the extusb? | 18:20 |
arrrghhh | Murasaki: you're old | 18:20 |
R^7Z | So, yeah I'm thinking of testing out a theory | 18:20 |
rpierce99 | you told us earlier that you updated a bunch of stuff Murasaki | 18:20 |
Murasaki | I'm 19, I'm not old | 18:20 |
arrrghhh | bear_: in the newer kernels | 18:20 |
Murasaki | Delete rootfs or not | 18:20 |
bear_ | awesome I have 3 ext usb adapters, | 18:20 |
arrrghhh | lol | 18:20 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki: update it | 18:21 |
R^7Z | yay! | 18:21 |
bear_ | lol, gotta love it, | 18:21 |
Murasaki | Well the other rootfs comes with numbers | 18:21 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935710 | 18:21 |
Murasaki | So just dete it, right.. | 18:21 |
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rpierce99 | Murasaki: you will have to rename the new one to rootfs.img | 18:21 |
arrrghhh | R^7Z: the thingy you plug into your phone that has a 3.5mm and 2.5mm and usb jack out? | 18:21 |
Murasaki | With the extension? Or just rootfs? | 18:21 |
rpierce99 | oh wait, that's for RHOD | 18:21 |
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Murasaki | Ugh.. | 18:22 |
rpierce99 | rootfs.img | 18:22 |
R^7Z | hrm... | 18:22 |
arrrghhh | Murasaki: didn't you download 210? | 18:22 |
arrrghhh | that tester gave you or whatever | 18:22 |
Murasaki | Can I talk to someone in private about this, I cant read all of this at once | 18:22 |
arrrghhh | imran | 18:22 |
Murasaki | Migraine :c | 18:22 |
Murasaki | Well he's telling me not to delete it, then to delete it | 18:22 |
R^7Z | whats the problem? | 18:22 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki: you have to delete it to update it | 18:22 |
R^7Z | or overwrite | 18:23 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki: then rename the new one so it is just rootfs.img | 18:23 |
R^7Z | either or... 6 one way half a dozen the other | 18:23 |
Murasaki | I just need someone to help me with android where I can actually read and not scroll through thousands of lines. Not to sound like a bitch | 18:23 |
Murasaki | Just getting a headache | 18:23 |
R^7Z | ah | 18:23 |
R^7Z | might be indication of too much info at one time? | 18:24 |
R^7Z | info over-load? ;) | 18:24 |
Murasaki | Yeah and its getting mixed | 18:24 |
R^7Z | so heres what ya do | 18:24 |
Murasaki | are PM's supported here? | 18:24 |
R^7Z | kinda | 18:24 |
arrrghhh | lol | 18:24 |
arrrghhh | Murasaki: pm me or rpierce99, unless rpierce99 objects. | 18:24 |
R^7Z | just make sure you dont remove the apostrophe :D | 18:24 |
Murasaki | Whoever's most willing to help, please? | 18:25 |
arrrghhh | i don't mind. | 18:25 |
manekineko | arrrghhh, question | 18:25 |
arrrghhh | manekineko: answer | 18:25 |
manekineko | I noticed that you were looking the dialer thing | 18:25 |
arrrghhh | o yea | 18:25 |
manekineko | mdpi/hdpi and all that | 18:25 |
arrrghhh | haven't really | 18:25 |
arrrghhh | but i want to | 18:25 |
arrrghhh | :D | 18:25 |
Murasaki | I dont even know how you PM here lol.. | 18:25 |
manekineko | why can't we just detect for device type somewhere for that | 18:25 |
manekineko | maybe in one of the init scripts | 18:26 |
manekineko | and just install a dialer based on device type | 18:26 |
R^7Z | irc chat or something like that | 18:26 |
Murasaki | Okay, does someone have msn.. | 18:26 |
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Murasaki | That can help me | 18:26 |
arrrghhh | Murasaki: should see a new tab? | 18:26 |
Murasaki | Ah | 18:26 |
R^7Z | poor thing she probably has more than one chat invite | 18:27 |
R^7Z | :p | 18:27 |
rpierce99 | yeah she got mad about all the scrolling in here, lets all send pms so it's even more unmanageable! | 18:27 |
bzo | stinebd: err, I guess this chan is more appropriate re: new jb patches | 18:27 |
R^7Z | ha! nah... | 18:27 |
arrrghhh | lol | 18:27 |
stinebd | bzo: he sent me his camera stuff, a lot of which i've merged into my working gingerbread tree | 18:28 |
R^7Z | ya! | 18:28 |
bzo | stinebd: he should be sending you another set of patches to fix a few more problems | 18:28 |
R^7Z | or yay* | 18:28 |
arrrghhh | video record stuffs? | 18:29 |
arrrghhh | what was he saying about hardware acceleration? | 18:29 |
bzo | you need the binary libs for them | 18:30 |
R^7Z | or battery by that matter... HA! i kid... | 18:30 |
R^7Z | :p | 18:30 |
R^7Z | dude arrghhh... I'm surprised you didn't have a mental meltdown earlier with all them noobz... :p | 18:31 |
arrrghhh | bzo: yea but does that mean it wasn't working before at all..? | 18:32 |
bzo | nothing new, he distributed everything needed to make stuff work as it should | 18:32 |
arrrghhh | huh | 18:34 |
arrrghhh | ok | 18:34 |
R^7Z | small potatoes? | 18:34 |
R^7Z | so like heres my question | 18:40 |
R^7Z | if people are getting to the packages but not understanding the process, whats to help them get to an understanding? | 18:41 |
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arrrghhh | bacon | 18:41 |
stinebd | bzo: i'm not able to get video recording working in gingerbread with what he sent. it's probably related to missing encoders. | 18:42 |
R^7Z | well obviously, bacon | 18:42 |
bzo | stinebd: the libs he sent you didn't work? | 18:42 |
stinebd | he provided a vendor/qcom tree (presumably from cm or codeaurora) with opencore libs but opencore is gone in gingerbread | 18:43 |
arrrghhh | Oo | 18:43 |
stinebd | so we need stagefright encoders | 18:43 |
R^7Z | ruh roh raggy | 18:43 |
bzo | well damn, guess porting video recording to gb won't be a freebie | 18:44 |
stinebd | also mediaservice is crashing during scans with his changes. i've yet to investigate the cause. | 18:44 |
R^7Z | I get stagefright every now and then... does that count? ;) | 18:44 |
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bzo | stinebd: are you going to release a frx05? | 18:46 |
Aks_ | happy to report everythings working in order | 18:46 |
stinebd | bzo: maybe | 18:46 |
stinebd | free time is becoming a big problem | 18:46 |
R^7Z | yay! | 18:46 |
R^7Z | which are you using aks_? | 18:46 |
R^7Z | froyo or gingerbread? | 18:47 |
Aks_ | rhod400 | 18:47 |
Aks_ | GB | 18:47 |
R^7Z | ah... fast, is it not? | 18:47 |
Aks_ | yep | 18:47 |
arrrghhh | :D | 18:47 |
Aks_ | n slikc UI | 18:47 |
Aks_ | slick* | 18:47 |
R^7Z | just watch out for that curve! :p | 18:47 |
R^7Z | oh! too late... ^_^ | 18:48 |
Aks_ | :P | 18:48 |
R^7Z | you get wifi working yet? | 18:48 |
Aks_ | will try at home | 18:48 |
Aks_ | in an hr or so | 18:48 |
R^7Z | good deal | 18:48 |
Aks_ | will test GPS while driving home | 18:49 |
manekineko | GPS doesn't work yet in GRX0A | 18:50 |
R^7Z | didn't think so... | 18:50 |
R^7Z | netloc is removed, right? | 18:51 |
arrrghhh | no GPS | 18:51 |
arrrghhh | netloc never worked for CDMA | 18:51 |
manekineko | right, no location services whatsoever, not just no GPS | 18:51 |
R^7Z | oh... rhod400, right | 18:51 |
manekineko | so no wifi location either | 18:51 |
R^7Z | but you can still connect to wifi because I was able to... | 18:51 |
manekineko | yeah, wifi works fine for me | 18:52 |
R^7Z | or is that just kind of device dependent? | 18:52 |
R^7Z | bc stine said his was iffy | 18:52 |
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R^7Z | i noticed it more in froyo but i haven't had wifi crap out on me once... course i could be jinxing myself... :p | 18:53 |
natemcnutty | stinebd: you there? | 18:53 |
stinebd | yeah | 18:53 |
arrrghhh | i thought ti had an issue where if you flip it off you cant flip it back on. | 18:53 |
R^7Z | stine says yes | 18:54 |
natemcnutty | sweet | 18:54 |
natemcnutty | mount --bind /data/modules /lib/modules | 18:54 |
R^7Z | but well... i guess im just undecided | 18:54 |
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R^7Z | :p | 18:54 |
natemcnutty | is in rootfs, but we don't need that if we are skipping rootfs right? | 18:54 |
natemcnutty | only care about /system/lib/modules | 18:54 |
stinebd | right | 18:54 |
natemcnutty | and because I've been curious for a while now. Why do we use --bind instead of ln? | 18:55 |
stinebd | bzo: what do you know about arm asm? | 18:55 |
bzo | not a ton | 18:55 |
stinebd | natemcnutty: in that case, it's just a preference. generally we'd use bindmounts where the destination filesystem is not read-write | 18:56 |
stinebd | i've got a sigbus on an ldr instruction | 18:56 |
stinebd | in an asm file | 18:56 |
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bzo | that is loading a register from an address in another register | 18:57 |
bzo | I guess the loaded address is bad | 18:57 |
stinebd | i think arm changed ldr behavior after armv5 | 18:58 |
bzo | and there are a number of options on the instruction | 18:58 |
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rpierce99 | dude arrrghhh some guy in your GB thread just asked you for the wpa_supplicant.conf WITH THE PASSWORDS IN IT | 19:44 |
rpierce99 | some people are beyond help | 19:44 |
arrrghhh | lmao | 19:44 |
arrrghhh | genius | 19:45 |
arrrghhh | i'm not a mod | 19:45 |
arrrghhh | i can't change his posts... | 19:45 |
arrrghhh | i can just point out that's probably dumb. | 19:45 |
jonpry | how does android get the battery info? | 19:46 |
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rpierce99 | why would you edit his post? | 19:47 |
arrrghhh | to remove the password? | 19:47 |
rpierce99 | no | 19:47 |
arrrghhh | i dunno why are you telling me? | 19:47 |
rpierce99 | he wants you to give him the file, with the password in it | 19:48 |
arrrghhh | Oo | 19:48 |
arrrghhh | misread what you said | 19:48 |
jonpry | whats the big deal. can't people just aircrack it? | 19:48 |
rpierce99 | no he's just dumb and doesn't realize that it's his own password | 19:48 |
arrrghhh | lol | 19:48 |
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oddz | lol | 19:49 |
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rpierce99 | arrrghhh: for you http://theoatmeal.com/comics/angry_birds | 19:52 |
arrrghhh | ... | 19:54 |
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rpierce99 | because you love angry birds so much | 19:56 |
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rpierce99 | ok i can't be this dumb | 20:21 |
arrrghhh | oh can't you? | 20:23 |
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RUZO | ALGUIEN Q ABLE ESPANOL | 20:23 |
rpierce99 | i have a ms core fonts installer EULA up in my linux vm and i can't click ok | 20:24 |
arrrghhh | NO | 20:24 |
arrrghhh | WE SPEAKY THE ENGLISH | 20:24 |
rpierce99 | enter, esc, etc | 20:24 |
arrrghhh | rpierce99: tab, space | 20:24 |
rpierce99 | ok so i am that dumb | 20:24 |
arrrghhh | lol | 20:24 |
rpierce99 | tab enter worked too | 20:24 |
arrrghhh | :P | 20:24 |
rpierce99 | wth does tab do | 20:24 |
arrrghhh | ah | 20:24 |
arrrghhh | i usually use space | 20:24 |
arrrghhh | moves to the actual time | 20:24 |
arrrghhh | yes/no isn't selected by default | 20:24 |
arrrghhh | nothing is AFAIK | 20:25 |
rpierce99 | oh it moved from the scrollbar to the ok button | 20:25 |
arrrghhh | java is the same way | 20:25 |
arrrghhh | yea | 20:25 |
arrrghhh | i assume you don't have X on the server? | 20:25 |
arrrghhh | er vm | 20:25 |
rpierce99 | i don't know, i just installed ubuntu 10.4 | 20:25 |
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rpierce99 | and then a crapton of apt-gets | 20:25 |
arrrghhh | server edition? | 20:26 |
rpierce99 | no | 20:26 |
arrrghhh | huh | 20:26 |
rpierce99 | if by X you mean do I have a GUI, then yes | 20:26 |
arrrghhh | i dunno | 20:28 |
arrrghhh | i just work here | 20:28 |
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rpierce99 | holy cow it's building, anyone want to put money on whether it actually works? | 20:32 |
arrrghhh | what are you doing? | 20:34 |
rpierce99 | trying to build xdandroid | 20:35 |
F22 | hmmm...first htc android cdma world phone announced. | 20:36 |
F22 | a little late... | 20:36 |
F22 | but better late then never i suppose. | 20:36 |
arrrghhh | rpierce99: vanilla system image? | 20:36 |
arrrghhh | F22: not sure the RIL will help | 20:36 |
rpierce99 | vanilla as in I haven't personally changed anything | 20:37 |
arrrghhh | indeed | 20:37 |
arrrghhh | just from the repo | 20:37 |
arrrghhh | gb or froyo? | 20:37 |
rpierce99 | froyo | 20:37 |
arrrghhh | nice | 20:38 |
rpierce99 | i'm only expecting it to fail because I couldn't get some of the recommended apt-gets | 20:38 |
arrrghhh | lolwut | 20:39 |
rpierce99 | some of them say the package couldn't be found | 20:39 |
arrrghhh | suck | 20:39 |
Murasaki | . | 20:41 |
rpierce99 | whoa | 20:41 |
rpierce99 | you're back | 20:41 |
Murasaki | Lol | 20:41 |
arrrghhh | still freezing? | 20:41 |
Murasaki | Yep. Deleted. | 20:42 |
arrrghhh | lol | 20:42 |
arrrghhh | the whole thing? | 20:42 |
Murasaki | Mmhm, wiping my computer clean of xda nonsense and starting "fresh" for once instead of overwriting 50 times. | 20:43 |
arrrghhh | lol | 20:43 |
arrrghhh | ok | 20:43 |
rpierce99 | /golfclap | 20:43 |
arrrghhh | i don't get why it's freezing | 20:43 |
arrrghhh | perhaps a good ole format of the cart | 20:43 |
arrrghhh | card* | 20:43 |
arrrghhh | using the HP tool | 20:43 |
Murasaki | *Shrug* | 20:43 |
arrrghhh | damn rpierce99 and his golf references | 20:43 |
rpierce99 | i'm gonna go with old crap + partial new crap = bad | 20:43 |
arrrghhh | rpierce99: we started over fresh | 20:43 |
arrrghhh | with frx04 | 20:44 |
rpierce99 | isn't that what she just said she's going to do | 20:44 |
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arrrghhh | on her computer | 20:44 |
Murasaki | Going back to the other froyo build since it doesn't freeze me, then I'll slowly upgrade it to early February | 20:45 |
Murasaki | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509493 | 20:45 |
arrrghhh | that works | 20:45 |
arrrghhh | i don't know what could be freezing it at this point to be honest | 20:45 |
Murasaki | Going to give it a chance to update since.. all the files I'm downloading now | 20:45 |
Murasaki | Are from August, if not earlier. | 20:45 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki: just make sure to start with the 2nd newest rootfs | 20:46 |
Murasaki | Yeh. | 20:46 |
rpierce99 | if you stick with the stock rootfs you'll get the major sluggish | 20:46 |
Murasaki | I'm not doing 24 yet. | 20:46 |
Murasaki | What others are there? | 20:46 |
rpierce99 | http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/ | 20:47 |
Murasaki | I thought those were stock, unless you're talking about something else.. | 20:47 |
Murasaki | Idk. I just started this 3 days ago and people talk to me like I've been introduced to it for 2 years. | 20:48 |
rpierce99 | no i'm saying don't use the rootfs included in any bundles except for arrrghhhs bundle | 20:48 |
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Murasaki | Oh. | 20:48 |
Murasaki | Well that's the site I got the rootfs from anyway | 20:48 |
rpierce99 | good, just continue what you were doing i don't want to confuse you by sending you in multiple directions again | 20:49 |
arrrghhh | i'm pretty sure she was using my frx04 bundle | 21:04 |
arrrghhh | without any changes | 21:04 |
arrrghhh | and it was freezing at the lock screen | 21:04 |
rpierce99 | you mean that was the result after you went pm for a while? because she wasn't getting that far before | 21:05 |
arrrghhh | indeed | 21:05 |
arrrghhh | what's ironic is the room went dead silent as soon as we started the PM | 21:05 |
arrrghhh | lol | 21:05 |
rpierce99 | i don't think that word means what you think it means | 21:06 |
rpierce99 | lol | 21:06 |
rpierce99 | </princess bride reference> | 21:06 |
arrrghhh | wth? | 21:06 |
arrrghhh | private message/ | 21:06 |
rpierce99 | ironic | 21:06 |
stinebd | arrrghhh still around? | 21:07 |
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arrrghhh | perhaps | 21:09 |
Murasaki_ | Eh? | 21:09 |
arrrghhh | Murasaki_: Murasaki two of you? | 21:10 |
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Murasaki_ | Had an error | 21:12 |
arrrghhh | nice | 21:12 |
arrrghhh | you can go back to your old nick | 21:12 |
Murasaki_ | Doesn't bother me that much | 21:12 |
rpierce99 | arrrghhh is on nick patrol today | 21:13 |
Murasaki_ | xD | 21:13 |
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Nautis | Hi, I loaded xdandroid on my phone and now my tv is broken :D | 21:19 |
arrrghhh | lol | 21:19 |
Nautis | fun day eh? | 21:20 |
phh | mine is waaaaaaayyy better | 21:20 |
phh | working on a robot, mostly everything got broken yesterday or today :D | 21:21 |
Nautis | skynet? | 21:21 |
phh | not yet, just eurobot | 21:21 |
Nautis | that might mean I have traveled to the wrong year?! | 21:24 |
Murasaki_ | Pierce? | 21:25 |
rpierce99 | yo | 21:25 |
Murasaki_ | What was that bit of coding you gave me earlier? | 21:25 |
rpierce99 | /confused | 21:26 |
Murasaki_ | To replace rel_path | 21:26 |
rpierce99 | oh pm.sleep_mode=1 | 21:26 |
rpierce99 | but if you're using arrrghhhs stuff it's already in there | 21:26 |
Murasaki_ | Testing others | 21:27 |
Murasaki_ | Whats it do? | 21:27 |
rpierce99 | tells the phone to power down some extra stuff in sleep, saves battery, prevents the phone from sleeping and not waking up | 21:27 |
Murasaki_ | Nice | 21:27 |
rpierce99 | only should be used on newish kernels though | 21:28 |
Murasaki_ | Kay | 21:28 |
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Nautis | hmm possible snow in bay area, blashpemy | 21:29 |
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rpierce99 | snow drifts above the mailboxes | 21:30 |
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Murasaki_ | Why the quietness? | 21:54 |
rpierce99 | this is how it normally is | 21:54 |
rpierce99 | you caught madness earlier | 21:54 |
Murasaki_ | Fail | 21:54 |
Murasaki_ | Some chat room :c | 21:54 |
rpierce99 | random chit-chat is frowned upon | 21:54 |
rpierce99 | tends to make support harder, as you saw earlier trying to keep up | 21:55 |
Murasaki_ | How about app sharing? What do you fancy on your android? | 21:55 |
crispee | it's fixed! | 21:55 |
Nautis | this is the get things done chat | 21:55 |
rpierce99 | Nautis: this one is 2nd to #htc-linux, stuff was flying so fast earlier I couldn't make heads or tails of any of it, not just fast but complicated | 21:56 |
Murasaki_ | Should I upgrade everything at once? | 21:57 |
rpierce99 | it's working currently? | 21:57 |
bear_ | Crispee> what is fixed? | 21:57 |
Murasaki_ | I did the rootfs alone, and it seems to be hanging. | 21:57 |
crispee | the screen jumping around on raph800 | 21:57 |
rpierce99 | rootfs is breaking your build? | 21:57 |
Nautis | I saw that.. its fun when there are three different development convos going on. | 21:57 |
Murasaki_ | I think so.. and I used 2-10 | 21:57 |
rpierce99 | where does it stop? | 21:57 |
Murasaki_ | No, it's not. I had a headache | 21:58 |
Murasaki_ | Do you want literally where it stops? Its all white text.. | 21:58 |
crispee | bear_: i've been using it with the fudged screen for a couple weeks now, then upgraded to 20110222 and it's gone :) | 21:58 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki_: how about the last unique line, the last one that doesn't appear over and over again | 21:58 |
rpierce99 | specifically anything relating to rootfs | 21:58 |
bear_ | Awesome, ya i was having trouble getting droid to run and with the chat help got it resolved | 21:59 |
Murasaki_ | Ah, it just scrolled some when I was staring | 21:59 |
Murasaki_ | I think I just have to let it run.. | 21:59 |
Murasaki_ | But idk when its supposed to stop | 21:59 |
rpierce99 | what line did it push just now? | 21:59 |
Murasaki_ | Can I upgrade each thing alone? | 21:59 |
Murasaki_ | It pushed up something about bluetooth | 21:59 |
rpierce99 | some things have dependancies on other things, but for the most part you can | 22:00 |
Murasaki_ | Well the rootfs in general? | 22:00 |
rpierce99 | as far as I know there are things that depend on rootfs, but nothing that rootfs depends on, but I could be wrong | 22:00 |
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Murasaki_ | I see a line that says failed to find rootfs on SD card | 22:01 |
Murasaki_ | is this because I gave it an extension like you said? | 22:01 |
arrrghhh | Murasaki_: that's the rel_path error | 22:01 |
arrrghhh | basically | 22:01 |
arrrghhh | assuming there is a rootfs.img where you are running haret.exe from | 22:02 |
rpierce99 | or rootfs was not renamed properly | 22:02 |
arrrghhh | that too | 22:02 |
Murasaki_ | mm | 22:02 |
Murasaki_ | Is it okay that rootfs is named "rootfs.img" like he told me to? | 22:02 |
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rpierce99 | Murasaki_: you unzipped it first right? | 22:03 |
Murasaki_ | I'm asking if I shouldn't have put the extension of .img on rootfs after you told me to | 22:03 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki_: and I'm asking if you unzipped the file that you downloaded | 22:03 |
arrrghhh | heh probably renamed the zip | 22:04 |
arrrghhh | rename it back to .zip | 22:04 |
arrrghhh | and extract it | 22:04 |
rpierce99 | you should not be renaming the .zip to .img | 22:04 |
Murasaki_ | No I didnt.. | 22:04 |
arrrghhh | rename that resulting file to rootfs.img | 22:04 |
Murasaki_ | .. The file was already a disk img | 22:04 |
Murasaki_ | He told me to specifically name it "rootfs.img" | 22:04 |
arrrghhh | well then it should be good | 22:04 |
arrrghhh | after extracting it | 22:04 |
rpierce99 | you said you got it from http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/ -- those are zipped | 22:04 |
crispee | arrrghhh: i think i may have closed bug 80 hope thats alright | 22:05 |
xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=80 normal, Normal, ---, developers, RESOLVED FIXED, Screen Alignment | 22:05 |
arrrghhh | ah right | 22:05 |
arrrghhh | hopefully it stays fixed | 22:05 |
crispee | it's working now | 22:05 |
crispee | i hpe so | 22:05 |
Murasaki_ | Like I'm not a complete idiot, I've been using winrar since I was 13 -_- | 22:05 |
crispee | cheers | 22:05 |
bear_ | My module is from 2/10, Rootfs is from 2/10, zimage is 2/10 initrd is from 2/12 is there an updated version for the Rhod500 | 22:06 |
Murasaki_ | I'm asking you if I should NOT have .img on the rootfs disk img you told me to rename | 22:06 |
crispee | Murasaki_: and now you're 13.5? | 22:06 |
Murasaki_ | I'm 19, thanks.. | 22:06 |
rpierce99 | the file absolutely must be called rootfs.img | 22:06 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki_: are you running windows? | 22:06 |
Murasaki_ | On my computer, yes.. | 22:06 |
crispee | didn't someone mention the rel_path?? | 22:07 |
rpierce99 | do you know if you have the option to "show the extension for known file types" turned on or off | 22:07 |
rpierce99 | crispee: this was working until she updated rootfs afaik | 22:07 |
Murasaki_ | No I do not know | 22:07 |
crispee | ah | 22:07 |
rpierce99 | what version of windows? | 22:07 |
Murasaki_ | What was working was files from August of last year | 22:07 |
Murasaki_ | I was told to update, so, I am | 22:08 |
Murasaki_ | Windows 7 | 22:08 |
crispee | yikes | 22:08 |
Murasaki_ | Using whatever Froyo 2.2 build ReWind posted beneath HTC Topaz | 22:08 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki_: can you do this for me? http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Show-or-hide-file-name-extensions | 22:10 |
crispee | does the htc topaz have winmo on it? | 22:10 |
crispee | you should be able to see the extension there | 22:10 |
crispee | make sure it's not something like rootfs.img.rar.txt.zip.mp3.wtf | 22:11 |
crispee | :) | 22:11 |
rpierce99 | that's what i'm worried about, specifically rootfs.img.img | 22:11 |
arrrghhh | .wtf lol | 22:12 |
Murasaki_ | Wish you verified with me earlier | 22:12 |
Murasaki_ | I hide my extensions | 22:12 |
bear_ | stupid question but is anyone working on trying to get bluetooth working on the rhod500 | 22:12 |
arrrghhh | heh | 22:12 |
Murasaki_ | So yes, its now rootfs.img.img | 22:13 |
arrrghhh | bear_: patches welcome | 22:13 |
arrrghhh | Murasaki_: Oo | 22:13 |
crispee | :O | 22:13 |
Murasaki_ | Now I have to start over for the umpteenth time | 22:13 |
rpierce99 | no, just fix that file name | 22:13 |
crispee | lol just rename the file | 22:13 |
arrrghhh | indeed | 22:13 |
arrrghhh | just rename it | 22:13 |
arrrghhh | rootfs.img | 22:13 |
arrrghhh | drop the extra .img | 22:13 |
crispee | ren rootfs.img.img rootfs.img | 22:13 |
crispee | :P | 22:13 |
bear_ | I wish i knew what i was doing about developing the files, | 22:13 |
bear_ | otherwise I would contribute, | 22:14 |
rpierce99 | holy crap, i have a system.img | 22:14 |
stinebd | arrrghhh | 22:14 |
bear_ | I am sorry, | 22:14 |
crispee | haha | 22:14 |
arrrghhh | stinebd | 22:14 |
stinebd | oh | 22:14 |
stinebd | i mean | 22:14 |
stinebd | angerrrr | 22:14 |
bear_ | why angerrrr? | 22:14 |
arrrghhh | lol | 22:14 |
stinebd | wifi failing for no reason | 22:15 |
stinebd | have to reboot | 22:15 |
crispee | oh you get that too? | 22:15 |
stinebd | trying to test a possible gapps fix | 22:15 |
bear_ | ok just wanted to make sure u were not angry with me | 22:15 |
bear_ | lol, | 22:15 |
crispee | haha | 22:15 |
crispee | i'm out p's | 22:15 |
stinebd | arrrghhh: i have a question about cdma networks | 22:15 |
arrrghhh | they are awesome | 22:16 |
arrrghhh | they keep me warm at night | 22:16 |
stinebd | how come i get a network identifier and signal bars but no service on this sprint phone | 22:16 |
arrrghhh | can you make phone calls? | 22:16 |
stinebd | no service | 22:16 |
arrrghhh | i think it'll do that, but if the phone isn't registered on the network it won't actually work. | 22:16 |
stinebd | lame | 22:17 |
arrrghhh | you shouldn't get a data cxn either. | 22:17 |
stinebd | i thought i got a freebie or something | 22:17 |
stinebd | right | 22:17 |
arrrghhh | yea, that's expected. | 22:17 |
bear_ | Spoof the esn | 22:17 |
arrrghhh | radio still functions. | 22:17 |
arrrghhh | yea, that's not legal | 22:17 |
stinebd | strange | 22:17 |
stinebd | i guess it makes sense though | 22:17 |
stinebd | the phone is tied to the network | 22:17 |
stinebd | not like on gsm where you can use it on different networks | 22:18 |
stinebd | well that didn't work | 22:19 |
bear_ | I like how with GSM you can switch the Sim and everything is alright, | 22:19 |
stinebd | sigh | 22:19 |
bear_ | but I have always been on CDMA | 22:19 |
Murasaki_ | That was outrageously fast. The rootfs seems to work now | 22:20 |
arrrghhh | cool | 22:20 |
Murasaki_ | About to go for the kernel | 22:20 |
Murasaki_ | Gonna see if this freezes up first | 22:21 |
bear_ | Are these the most updated versions? : My module is from 2/10, Rootfs is from 2/10, zimage is 2/10 initrd is from 2/12 is there an updated version for the Rhod500 | 22:21 |
bear_ | or has there been an update since? | 22:21 |
arrrghhh | check xdandroid.com | 22:22 |
arrrghhh | seems you're a little behind | 22:22 |
arrrghhh | although don't grab the newest rootfs | 22:22 |
arrrghhh | it's dun been busted | 22:22 |
stinebd | son of a bitch | 22:22 |
stinebd | It's an issue with JIT. Gingerbread doesn't seem to like being run without JIT for some reason. I had to re-enable it. However, you can't change that on the current release (just by changing on build.prop) because I'm actually forcing no-JIT. | 22:23 |
stinebd | that... would suck. | 22:23 |
arrrghhh | what the issue? | 22:24 |
stinebd | gapps | 22:24 |
arrrghhh | the gapps thing? | 22:24 |
arrrghhh | fawk | 22:24 |
stinebd | god damn jit | 22:24 |
stinebd | we can't win | 22:24 |
stinebd | i hope he's wrong | 22:24 |
arrrghhh | so can we figure out what the issue with JIT is? | 22:24 |
arrrghhh | other than not being supported on our chipset. | 22:25 |
arrrghhh | lol ^^ | 22:25 |
arrrghhh | make it work stinebd | 22:25 |
Murasaki_ | Is there a newer initrd? | 22:25 |
stinebd | wut | 22:25 |
stinebd | well arrrghhh sorry to disappoint you but i won't have a release tonight | 22:26 |
stinebd | hopefully tomorrow | 22:26 |
bear_ | Do I need to Remove the _20110222_203532 on the zImage | 22:26 |
stinebd | i really can't be up too late tonight though because i have work and i'm sick enough as it is | 22:26 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki_: There probably is but I've never updated mine | 22:27 |
Counterfeit | uhmm zImage should be just that, zImage. I believe. | 22:27 |
rpierce99 | bear_: yeah just zImage | 22:28 |
rpierce99 | capital I | 22:28 |
arrrghhh | stinebd: np | 22:28 |
bear_ | ty | 22:28 |
rpierce99 | bear_: it shouldn't have a file type either | 22:28 |
arrrghhh | Murasaki_: no newer initrd since like august | 22:28 |
bear_ | and remove the .gz at the end of modules | 22:28 |
bear_ | it does not | 22:28 |
rpierce99 | if you're in windows it should just say it's a "file | 22:28 |
bear_ | it does | 22:28 |
bear_ | if not i know how to mod it through a cmd promt | 22:28 |
rpierce99 | bear_: modules should be a .tar.gz | 22:28 |
rpierce99 | and don't rename it | 22:28 |
bear_ | ok wont thank you for clarifying | 22:29 |
stinebd | see now she's being falsely led | 22:29 |
stinebd | i've been considering getting a webcam and streaming my rage-driven development practices | 22:30 |
arrrghhh | lol | 22:31 |
bear_ | LoL almost like a reactions video | 22:31 |
arrrghhh | no rage drives the code | 22:31 |
Nautis | that explains a lot :D | 22:32 |
Murasaki_ | Everything's working. | 22:32 |
Murasaki_ | Didnt even take two minutes. | 22:32 |
arrrghhh | newest everything? | 22:32 |
Murasaki_ | Yep | 22:32 |
arrrghhh | lol | 22:32 |
arrrghhh | even system.ext2? you're on FRX04? | 22:32 |
Murasaki_ | I'm going to figure out whats wrong with Gen.Y dualboot now | 22:33 |
Murasaki_ | Yes | 22:33 |
arrrghhh | nice | 22:33 |
Murasaki_ | Its pretty smooth | 22:33 |
Nautis | damsel saved? | 22:33 |
Murasaki_ | Hush D: | 22:33 |
arrrghhh | lol | 22:33 |
arrrghhh | she saved herself | 22:33 |
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arrrghhh | not sure how or why tho tbh | 22:33 |
Murasaki_ | xD | 22:33 |
arrrghhh | Murasaki_: do you? | 22:33 |
arrrghhh | that's gonna bug me. | 22:33 |
arrrghhh | :P | 22:33 |
Murasaki_ | Lmao. Do what D: | 22:34 |
Murasaki_ | Save myself? | 22:34 |
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arrrghhh | no | 22:34 |
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arrrghhh | where did we go wrong | 22:34 |
arrrghhh | or i | 22:34 |
arrrghhh | whatever | 22:34 |
Murasaki_ | Idk honestly.. | 22:34 |
arrrghhh | what was f-ed up last time that you did differently where now it's working | 22:34 |
arrrghhh | damnit. | 22:34 |
arrrghhh | i had a feeling you were going to say that :P | 22:34 |
Murasaki_ | I basically just merged both our views. | 22:34 |
Murasaki_ | LOL | 22:34 |
arrrghhh | heh | 22:34 |
Murasaki_ | Idk. | 22:34 |
arrrghhh | meh, no biggie | 22:34 |
arrrghhh | at least it's working | 22:34 |
Murasaki_ | My way of always getting things done is putting two and two together | 22:34 |
Murasaki_ | Before, I'd be black&white screened for 20 minutes | 22:35 |
Murasaki_ | This took like 30 seconds my way | 22:35 |
arrrghhh | bleh :P | 22:35 |
Murasaki_ | :D? | 22:35 |
stinebd | my way involves throwing things and profanity | 22:35 |
arrrghhh | nice | 22:35 |
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arrrghhh | if you think that, then you do. | 22:37 |
arrrghhh | or just ditch charter | 22:37 |
arrrghhh | lol | 22:37 |
rpierce99 | it's my wireless, it drops when I am upstairs | 22:37 |
arrrghhh | ah | 22:37 |
rpierce99 | maybe a smaller house is what i need | 22:38 |
Nautis | seems like that would be easier than a router update | 22:38 |
rpierce99 | the problem is i like my router | 22:38 |
arrrghhh | but not your house? | 22:39 |
rpierce99 | haha touche | 22:39 |
Counterfeit | dd-wrt that stuff | 22:40 |
Counterfeit | turn it into a super router haha. | 22:40 |
arrrghhh | <3 dd-wrt | 22:40 |
arrrghhh | IF your router supports it | 22:40 |
arrrghhh | or if your router is supported by it rather | 22:40 |
Counterfeit | yes :( i've never had a router that it's been supported by | 22:41 |
Counterfeit | never had the chance to try it | 22:41 |
rpierce99 | no it's the other way around, the newer WRT54Gs broke DD-WRT support by not having enough flash | 22:41 |
arrrghhh | heh | 22:41 |
arrrghhh | i bought a 600n because it's supported well | 22:41 |
bear_ | eh many are have a $20 N 150 Router I was able to put it on it | 22:41 |
arrrghhh | rpierce99: mini or micro? | 22:41 |
rpierce99 | arrrghhh: i'm sure those were still an option | 22:42 |
bear_ | the mini wrt54 g does not have it I have one laying around that the power supply fried had to solder in a new capacitor | 22:42 |
bear_ | only 1mb storage | 22:42 |
rpierce99 | there's a mini version of the 54gs? i had no idea | 22:42 |
arrrghhh | rpierce99: depends | 22:42 |
bear_ | If i remember correctly DDWRT requires 4mb | 22:43 |
rpierce99 | doesn't look like my router is on the list | 22:43 |
bear_ | http://www.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1280&bih=896&tbs=isch:1&sa=1&q=wrt54gc&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=f&oq= | 22:43 |
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bear_ | mini 54g | 22:44 |
rpierce99 | oh the GC, forgot about that one | 22:44 |
rpierce99 | after the WRT54GL there weren't any more linksys routers i liked | 22:44 |
bear_ | lol its not a router but I love my dsl modem the Actiontec Q1000 | 22:45 |
Nautis | theres also tomato.. I like ddwrt better tho | 22:45 |
Nautis | im still considering getting a dang nook color | 22:48 |
stinebd | and at the end of the day i still didnt get to play zelda 2 | 22:49 |
Counterfeit | I googled dd-wrt...refreshed a PPC page and there at the top is a google ad "DDWRT Software" lol | 22:49 |
stinebd | oh well | 22:49 |
rpierce99 | stinebd: zelda 2 was lame, go L2TP or go home | 22:49 |
stinebd | sacrilege | 22:50 |
rpierce99 | and not THAT L2TP | 22:50 |
arrrghhh | heh | 22:50 |
stinebd | zelda 2 is the only one difficult enough to curb my ragequit pangs | 22:50 |
stinebd | even ocarina i can do in 8 hours with no fairies | 22:50 |
stinebd | master quest! | 22:50 |
rpierce99 | i probably should keep my mouth shut seeing as how L2TP was the first one I ever played and only one until the one for the wii which has a name that escapes me atm | 22:51 |
stinebd | twilight princess | 22:52 |
Counterfeit | you know your zelda stuff | 22:52 |
Nautis | 50th! | 22:52 |
stinebd | i know most anything nintendo made | 22:52 |
stinebd | big fanboy | 22:53 |
Murasaki_ | *Needs useful apps for droid.* | 22:53 |
rpierce99 | i should probably invest in some wii points and buy some of the newish/oldish zelda games, seeing as how I just finished mass effect 2 and have no games to play | 22:53 |
stinebd | Murasaki_: there's this app called Market which is really nice | 22:53 |
Murasaki_ | Nowai | 22:53 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki_: use /me needs useful apps for droid | 22:54 |
Nautis | angry birds :D | 22:54 |
Murasaki_ | Useful, not boring l: | 22:54 |
Nautis | it teaches the usefull art of slingshoting birds at pigs | 22:54 |
Murasaki_ | xD | 22:55 |
Murasaki_ | I like Alchemy better | 22:55 |
Murasaki_ | But in all legitness. D: | 22:55 |
stinebd | connectbot, andchat, tivo remote, congress, k9 mail, saymyname, xda | 22:55 |
Murasaki_ | Useful apps that don't drain my battery to hell. At least something that helps it. | 22:55 |
Nautis | uh oh | 22:56 |
Murasaki_ | :c? | 22:56 |
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rpierce99 | urbanspoon, yelp, facebook, twitter, clocksync, mint, titanium backup, xda | 22:57 |
rpierce99 | oh yeah and zeam because the default launcher is slow | 22:58 |
Murasaki_ | Zeam O:? Never heard of it | 22:58 |
Murasaki_ | Oh, does anyone have problems syncing facebook to contacts? | 22:59 |
Murasaki_ | Idk how to. | 22:59 |
rpierce99 | apparently it doesn't work | 22:59 |
Counterfeit | you can't with these builds | 22:59 |
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rpierce99 | i don't even try | 22:59 |
Murasaki_ | Thats lame | 22:59 |
Counterfeit | I use "FacebookSync" to get the pics | 22:59 |
Murasaki_ | I looked for that and couldnt find it | 22:59 |
Murasaki_ | Is it free? | 22:59 |
Counterfeit | yeah but support stopped or something | 22:59 |
Counterfeit | I have the apk | 22:59 |
Counterfeit | i'll upload it to rapidshare or whatever | 23:00 |
R^7Z | its on the web | 23:00 |
Counterfeit | Yeah I'll look a bit if i can't find it i'll upload | 23:00 |
R^7Z | http://www.androidfreeware.net/get-facebook-sync.html | 23:00 |
R^7Z | n-Joie! | 23:00 |
Counterfeit | use the mirror download. | 23:01 |
R^7Z | ffa ^_^ | 23:01 |
R^7Z | anyone else figure out how to get the teleporter to work yet? :p | 23:02 |
Murasaki_ | From my phone or computer? | 23:02 |
R^7Z | either or | 23:02 |
R^7Z | if you download it to your phone | 23:02 |
R^7Z | it should auto install | 23:02 |
R^7Z | and if not, download to the computer and put it in the androidapps folder | 23:03 |
R^7Z | for auto install | 23:03 |
R^7Z | OR | 23:03 |
R^7Z | subfolder under androidapps and use a file explorer | 23:03 |
R^7Z | i prefer andexporer | 23:03 |
R^7Z | OR | 23:03 |
R^7Z | astro | 23:03 |
R^7Z | there was another | 23:03 |
R^7Z | but the name escapes my memory at the moment :p | 23:04 |
Nautis | estrongs file explorer is one | 23:04 |
R^7Z | nah... you need to bundle | 23:05 |
R^7Z | or they try to make you | 23:05 |
R^7Z | i prefer another... i'll find it eventually | 23:05 |
Murasaki_ | astro? | 23:06 |
R^7Z | its a file explorer | 23:06 |
R^7Z | link to andexplorer | 23:06 |
R^7Z | http://www.lysesoft.com/products/andexplorer/index.html | 23:06 |
R^7Z | very simple file exporer IMHO | 23:06 |
R^7Z | stupid "l" | 23:07 |
R^7Z | I kill you!!! :p | 23:07 |
R^7Z | Advanced Manager_1.0.5.apk | 23:08 |
R^7Z | is the name | 23:08 |
R^7Z | its an all in one | 23:08 |
R^7Z | you can manage a few settings | 23:08 |
R^7Z | backup apps | 23:08 |
R^7Z | install | 23:08 |
R^7Z | good stuff! | 23:08 |
R^7Z | lemme know if you want a link... im on the hunt | 23:08 |
R^7Z | :D | 23:08 |
Murasaki_ | Sure O: | 23:09 |
Counterfeit | like it better than titanium for backing up? | 23:09 |
Counterfeit | i'm always looking for an easier way to do that sort of thing with all these different builds :) | 23:09 |
R^7Z | meh... i usually dont make that many backups | 23:09 |
Counterfeit | mmm gotcha. | 23:10 |
Murasaki_ | I only have one build xD I dont care much | 23:10 |
R^7Z | http://www.multiupload.com/4AQ4XAEWJR | 23:10 |
R^7Z | file served | 23:10 |
R^7Z | :) | 23:10 |
Murasaki_ | xD | 23:11 |
R^7Z | I like it... all that matters to me ;) :p | 23:11 |
Murasaki_ | Need to fix settings on windows mobile | 23:11 |
R^7Z | by the way | 23:11 |
Murasaki_ | All this powering off | 23:11 |
R^7Z | backup i mean apps backup | 23:11 |
R^7Z | you'll need to set that under display | 23:12 |
Murasaki_ | Hm | 23:12 |
R^7Z | should be a screen timeout setting | 23:12 |
R^7Z | i set mine to never time out | 23:12 |
Murasaki_ | Yeah | 23:12 |
Murasaki_ | Trying to find it | 23:12 |
R^7Z | but then you're stuck with it to turn off manually | 23:12 |
R^7Z | okay heres whatcha do | 23:12 |
Murasaki_ | Found it xD | 23:12 |
R^7Z | good! | 23:13 |
R^7Z | save me a few letter :p | 23:13 |
Murasaki_ | :D | 23:13 |
R^7Z | letters* | 23:13 |
R^7Z | kind of self-defeating | 23:13 |
R^7Z | :/ | 23:13 |
Murasaki_ | Little bit LOL | 23:13 |
Murasaki_ | But yeah | 23:13 |
R^7Z | the story of my life | 23:13 |
Murasaki_ | My phone was set for turn off after a minute | 23:13 |
Murasaki_ | And I forgot to reset it | 23:14 |
Murasaki_ | So when I grab for it I'm like.. wtf | 23:14 |
R^7Z | yeah... if you want the screen to stay on | 23:14 |
Murasaki_ | I unchecked everything | 23:14 |
Murasaki_ | Ive reset my phone so many times today | 23:14 |
R^7Z | i set mine to never by downloading batterybooster | 23:14 |
R^7Z | link following | 23:14 |
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Murasaki_ | Yep | 23:14 |
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R^7Z | http://downloadandroid.info/products/utility/battery-booster-boost-your-batterys-running-time/ | 23:15 |
Murasaki_ | O: | 23:15 |
Murasaki_ | Gimme | 23:15 |
R^7Z | get it while its hot! | 23:15 |
R^7Z | :p | 23:15 |
R^7Z | once you download and install | 23:15 |
Murasaki_ | Sure it works? xD | 23:16 |
R^7Z | not for every device | 23:16 |
R^7Z | i hear-say some it didnt | 23:16 |
Murasaki_ | HTC Pure? | 23:16 |
R^7Z | no idea | 23:16 |
Murasaki_ | Boo | 23:16 |
R^7Z | i have an at&t fuze | 23:16 |
R^7Z | i kno right | 23:16 |
Murasaki_ | :c | 23:16 |
R^7Z | no reason not to try it | 23:16 |
R^7Z | honestly | 23:17 |
Murasaki_ | I bought this phone for 40 bucks xD | 23:17 |
R^7Z | if it dont work remove it | 23:17 |
R^7Z | yay! | 23:17 |
Murasaki_ | Missing stylus </3 | 23:17 |
R^7Z | thats 100 times less than what i paid for my Fuze | 23:17 |
Murasaki_ | Using an old, dried out fine point sharpie as my stylus | 23:17 |
Murasaki_ | Pretty ghetto | 23:17 |
R^7Z | nah | 23:17 |
R^7Z | it works | 23:17 |
Murasaki_ | xD | 23:17 |
R^7Z | if it works | 23:17 |
R^7Z | ;) | 23:17 |
Murasaki_ | So.. Zeam | 23:18 |
Murasaki_ | Need to find that | 23:18 |
R^7Z | yup | 23:18 |
R^7Z | hold on a sec | 23:18 |
Murasaki_ | Do you prefer it over launcher pro? | 23:18 |
R^7Z | meh | 23:18 |
R^7Z | about 50/50 | 23:18 |
R^7Z | i like lp+ for the widgets | 23:18 |
R^7Z | but zeam is boos | 23:18 |
R^7Z | moss* | 23:19 |
R^7Z | oops | 23:19 |
R^7Z | fail twice | 23:19 |
R^7Z | should i try a third? | 23:19 |
R^7Z | :p | 23:19 |
Counterfeit | <3 launcherpro | 23:19 |
R^7Z | zeam is very light weight but no longer under development | 23:19 |
Counterfeit | the little dock bar is sweet. | 23:19 |
R^7Z | i like the idea though... | 23:19 |
Counterfeit | granted the others ahve it - i just like launcherpros better | 23:19 |
R^7Z | developer is getting his rl in order | 23:19 |
rpierce99 | for me fast > widgets | 23:19 |
Murasaki_ | I think launcher pro is pretty cute | 23:20 |
Nautis | launcher pro agreed.. zeem seems a bit to stripped for me | 23:20 |
R^7Z | so yeah.... linky | 23:21 |
Counterfeit | my new love: quick settings. yum. had used widgetsoid 2.x...then kept hearing great things about it so i switched | 23:21 |
R^7Z | http://www.multiupload.com/P7CDYR07A7 | 23:21 |
R^7Z | get it while its hot! :D | 23:21 |
Counterfeit | what apk is that? | 23:21 |
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R^7Z | zeam | 23:21 |
Counterfeit | ahh yes. gracias. | 23:21 |
R^7Z | np | 23:21 |
R^7Z | all these are free to download and to use | 23:22 |
R^7Z | bt the way | 23:22 |
R^7Z | by* | 23:22 |
R^7Z | brb... need more water | 23:22 |
R^7Z | :p | 23:22 |
Murasaki_ | Finally | 23:22 |
Murasaki_ | Unlocking my screen is SO much easier now | 23:22 |
R^7Z | :) | 23:23 |
R^7Z | also i use pattern lock | 23:23 |
R^7Z | the little slide lock is nice but me likey patternz | 23:23 |
R^7Z | ^_ | 23:23 |
Murasaki_ | I was using files from august, lolol. Effed my droid up so bad, I wanted to show my phone | 23:23 |
R^7Z | woops | 23:23 |
Murasaki_ | And with the use of this in my startup: Button wake up board-htcraphael-navi.wake=X 0 = screen only wakes on power button 1 = wakes on any keypress | 23:23 |
Murasaki_ | Unlocking is a dream | 23:23 |
arrrghhhTP2 | Which one did you pick? | 23:24 |
Murasaki_ | 1 | 23:24 |
R^7Z | there was talk of having stylus to unlock | 23:24 |
arrrghhhTP2 | Yea I was 1 | 23:24 |
R^7Z | but that was a pipe dream, i suppose? | 23:24 |
arrrghhhTP2 | I wonder if I still have it | 23:24 |
arrrghhhTP2 | Probably not | 23:24 |
Murasaki_ | The button wake? | 23:25 |
R^7Z | if only i could upload it to multiupload | 23:25 |
R^7Z | :p | 23:25 |
Murasaki_ | xD | 23:25 |
Murasaki_ | YESSSSS | 23:25 |
Murasaki_ | All my contacts savedddd | 23:25 |
R^7Z | woot! | 23:25 |
Murasaki_ | I could hump android right now | 23:25 |
R^7Z | whoa whoa whoa | 23:25 |
Murasaki_ | I thought I lost EVERYONE even after I edited everyone | 23:25 |
Murasaki_ | That would have pissed me off so bad xD | 23:25 |
R^7Z | getting all crazy wit the cheese whiz | 23:26 |
Murasaki_ | LOL | 23:26 |
R^7Z | wise man say: better to be pissed off than pissed on... | 23:26 |
R^7Z | ^_^ | 23:26 |
R^7Z | unless you're one of "those" people... | 23:26 |
R^7Z | :/ | 23:26 |
Nautis | rkelly? | 23:27 |
Murasaki_ | Lolol | 23:27 |
R^7Z | whoa.... | 23:27 |
R^7Z | true but whoa | 23:27 |
R^7Z | gettin all nasty up in hurr,,, | 23:28 |
Murasaki_ | My ex tried to pull an Rkelly as a joke | 23:28 |
Murasaki_ | His life was nearly altered that day. | 23:28 |
R^7Z | o,k... | 23:28 |
Murasaki_ | He was just weird that way | 23:28 |
R^7Z | yeah... about that... | 23:28 |
Murasaki_ | Anyway. Android apps! | 23:28 |
R^7Z | yup | 23:28 |
stinebd | buddy holly ben hurr space monkey mafia hula hoops castro edsel is a no go | 23:28 |
R^7Z | what else you lookin for? | 23:29 |
R^7Z | :) | 23:29 |
R^7Z | I might just have it | 23:29 |
R^7Z | :p | 23:29 |
Murasaki_ | xD | 23:29 |
R^7Z | i go ape crazy over apps | 23:29 |
Nautis | stine didnt start the fire | 23:29 |
R^7Z | Murasaki_: you should check out a site called mobilisim.org | 23:30 |
Nautis | or were those app suggestions :) | 23:30 |
R^7Z | they have ton of apps for android! | 23:30 |
Murasaki_ | My phone appears to have frozen after sending a text. Wtf ): | 23:30 |
R^7Z | ofc you'll need a username and all that jazz | 23:30 |
R^7Z | hmmm... | 23:31 |
R^7Z | that is actually beyond me... | 23:31 |
R^7Z | i mainly only use android for a few minutes a day... seems the battery cant quite take the beating :p | 23:31 |
Murasaki_ | Well it uses up 100%, doesnt it | 23:32 |
R^7Z | so i try to refrain from anything much else | 23:32 |
R^7Z | it varries | 23:32 |
R^7Z | i think battery usage is dependent on cpu usage | 23:32 |
R^7Z | i try to have the advanced manager to kill all apps not included in the ignore list after a screen off | 23:33 |
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stinebd | still crashes with jit | 23:33 |
R^7Z | blah... | 23:34 |
R^7Z | damn jit | 23:34 |
R^7Z | I kill you! | 23:34 |
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R^7Z | ha! | 23:34 |
R^7Z | you wont be crashing anymore now! :p | 23:34 |
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R^7Z | so i was thinking about creating my own build environment... i heard that only the 64 bit version of ubuntu to pull from git. is this correct? | 23:38 |
R^7Z | missed a word or two... heh | 23:38 |
arrrghhhTP2 | Not true | 23:38 |
arrrghhhTP2 | Doesn't matter | 23:39 |
R^7Z | good! | 23:39 |
R^7Z | me thinks im gunna make my ubuntu box... err drive... errr whatever | 23:39 |
bzo | you need 64bit to build gb | 23:39 |
R^7Z | ah... | 23:39 |
R^7Z | so gb being system image? | 23:39 |
R^7Z | or??? | 23:39 |
bzo | gingerbread | 23:40 |
arrrghhhTP2 | Orly | 23:40 |
arrrghhhTP2 | Did not know that bzo | 23:40 |
bzo | yeah, I was pissed off after creating a brand new 32bit vm | 23:40 |
arrrghhhTP2 | Cuz of the new toolchain? | 23:40 |
R^7Z | right but building gingerbread... do you mean like the system.ext2 images we have for xdandroid? | 23:40 |
R^7Z | or....? | 23:40 |
bzo | not sure, just some restriction google started | 23:40 |
arrrghhhTP2 | R | 23:41 |
arrrghhhTP2 | Er | 23:41 |
bzo | and of course you don't figure this out until you've pulled everything down, and setup the build env | 23:41 |
R^7Z | ha | 23:41 |
R^7Z | well... see | 23:41 |
arrrghhhTP2 | R^7Z: yes system image? | 23:41 |
R^7Z | i had no intentions of doing the be | 23:41 |
R^7Z | be=build environment | 23:41 |
bzo | and you need a recent linux version because of dependencies on libs | 23:41 |
R^7Z | but i was over-looking the logs | 23:41 |
R^7Z | and seemed as if someone was expecting the users to have at the very least a kernel build environment? or maybe i misread??? | 23:42 |
R^7Z | recent meaning 10.10? | 23:42 |
R^7Z | for ubuntu | 23:42 |
R^7Z | which is what i have | 23:43 |
R^7Z | but i stuck with the 32bit b/c there were rumors that 64 was a bit unstable at the time... | 23:43 |
Murasaki_ | Does anyone know if Cyanogenmod works for Topaz? | 23:43 |
R^7Z | probably but we dont support it | 23:43 |
bzo | I think 10.04 and better will work | 23:44 |
Murasaki_ | :c | 23:44 |
R^7Z | so like 10.04 is later or earlier than 10.10? | 23:44 |
R^7Z | i was thinking later... | 23:44 |
R^7Z | but hell what do i know :p | 23:44 |
arrrghhhTP2 | Lol. | 23:44 |
arrrghhhTP2 | 10.10 is the latest | 23:44 |
R^7Z | gotcha | 23:44 |
arrrghhhTP2 | 11.04 is comin soon | 23:44 |
arrrghhhTP2 | It's year.month btw | 23:45 |
R^7Z | pfft | 23:45 |
R^7Z | i aint budgin | 23:45 |
arrrghhhTP2 | 10.04 is LTS | 23:45 |
R^7Z | yea... thats what i hear | 23:45 |
arrrghhhTP2 | Indeed | 23:45 |
R^7Z | i have live CD but... | 23:45 |
R^7Z | i might just jump to an upgrade when it comes out... | 23:45 |
R^7Z | who knows> | 23:45 |
* R^7Z says in a dark voice: THE SHADOW KNOWS!!!!! | 23:46 | |
R^7Z | :o | 23:46 |
R^7Z | oy! | 23:46 |
R^7Z | i like the fact that i can boot win7 or ubuntu OR unmount my ext hd and just stick with win7 | 23:47 |
R^7Z | the only thing i dont like is that i have to boot with my ext hd | 23:48 |
R^7Z | :/ | 23:48 |
Counterfeit | mm not to be all offtopic and such..i searched on PPC geeks and the XDA faq..anyone have firefox mobile working with any build? | 23:48 |
R^7Z | its called fenec | 23:49 |
R^7Z | or something like that | 23:49 |
R^7Z | it was running | 23:49 |
R^7Z | i thought? | 23:49 |
R^7Z | been a minute or two since i've been inside the fuzedroid | 23:50 |
rpierce99 | i just build my own kernel, modules, and system image, does anyone think this thing will actually boot? not I! | 23:51 |
rpierce99 | wow power off actually powered off, that like never happens | 23:51 |
R^7Z | ofc it will as long as you did it the right way... :D | 23:51 |
rpierce99 | R^7Z: that's the part that I don't believe | 23:52 |
R^7Z | was it not supposed to? | 23:52 |
Murasaki_ | Hm.. Cant find an app I just downloaded | 23:52 |
rpierce99 | no it always reboots for me | 23:52 |
Murasaki_ | Strange | 23:52 |
R^7Z | interesting | 23:52 |
R^7Z | to both | 23:52 |
R^7Z | :p | 23:52 |
R^7Z | what are you attempting to locate and mine usually screens off | 23:52 |
R^7Z | but then again i'm not really using a custome build... :D :p | 23:53 |
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rpierce99 | R^7Z: messages to two different people should usually be on two different lines :) | 23:53 |
R^7Z | blah... standards | 23:53 |
R^7Z | lmao | 23:53 |
Murasaki_ | Circle Launcher | 23:53 |
Murasaki_ | Its in my downloads | 23:53 |
Murasaki_ | But I can't find it | 23:53 |
R^7Z | hmmm... | 23:53 |
stinebd | lol i'm such a | 23:53 |
R^7Z | not in the app drawer? | 23:54 |
R^7Z | stine... are you responsible? | 23:54 |
R^7Z | :p | 23:54 |
Counterfeit | yeahh knew it was fennec but that doesn't show up at ppc either :( i'll sure xda | 23:54 |
R^7Z | counterfeit: lemme check | 23:54 |
Murasaki_ | Cant find it | 23:54 |
R^7Z | i had a download once upon a time | 23:54 |
Murasaki_ | But my phone is so smooth | 23:55 |
R^7Z | :) | 23:55 |
rpierce99 | Murasaki_: if it's a launcher, it doesn't show up in the app drawer | 23:55 |
R^7Z | well zeam down | 23:55 |
R^7Z | does* | 23:55 |
rpierce99 | unless you have disabled the prompt, you can hit home and it will ask which one to use | 23:55 |
Murasaki_ | I dont see it anywhere is what I said.. | 23:55 |
R^7Z | and it definitly is a a launcher | 23:56 |
Counterfeit | launcherpro doesn't show in the drawer. | 23:56 |
rpierce99 | zeam doesn't show up in my zeam app drawer :) | 23:56 |
R^7Z | it sure doesnt | 23:56 |
Counterfeit | homeswitcher will help | 23:56 |
R^7Z | :p | 23:56 |
Counterfeit | if that's what you were trying haha | 23:56 |
rpierce99 | isn't there somewhere in settings to re-enable the dialog of which launcher to use? | 23:56 |
Counterfeit | yes. under like manage applications | 23:57 |
Counterfeit | i'll look | 23:57 |
Murasaki_ | I think I know where it is | 23:57 |
Murasaki_ | Gimme a sec | 23:57 |
Counterfeit | race is on | 23:57 |
Murasaki_ | Redownloading the app xD | 23:57 |
Counterfeit | settings - manage apps - | 23:58 |
Counterfeit | then whatever launcher | 23:58 |
Murasaki_ | Yeah its in my downloads | 23:58 |
Counterfeit | you can choose to 'clear defaults' which'll make it not launch by default | 23:58 |
Murasaki_ | But what I failed to understand | 23:58 |
Murasaki_ | Is that its a widget | 23:58 |
Murasaki_ | Not an app that syncs | 23:58 |
R^7Z | ruh roh raggy | 23:58 |
R^7Z | murasaki_ +1 fail! :D :p | 23:59 |
Murasaki_ | Shhhh | 23:59 |
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R^7Z | T_T | 23:59 |
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