Wednesday, 2011-02-02

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arrrghhhwhat's the prob bob00:13
justlocoCant seem to get everything running correctly. when I try to run the cab file it wont finish the install00:14
arrrghhhdon't use the cab00:14
arrrghhhi wish reef would listen to me and freakin remove it.00:15
justlocoAh I see00:15
justlocodo I need to do anything else to it?00:15
justlocomy phone that is00:15
justlocoi see flashing and roms and im lost when it comes to that..00:16
justloco:(00:16
arrrghhhthis isn't flashing00:16
arrrghhhprobably the best part00:16
arrrghhhdon't need to do hspl00:16
arrrghhhthere's basically 0 risk to your phone.00:16
arrrghhhit may cause your SD to burst into flames, but we can't be held responsible for that :P00:16
justlocoLoL.. Thats whats up00:17
justlocois it better to do flashing?00:17
arrrghhhwe don't help with that here00:17
arrrghhhthat's for winmo00:17
justlocoahh okay00:17
arrrghhhwe help with android.00:18
justlocoyea totally new to this excuse the tard questions00:18
justloco:)00:18
arrrghhhhaven't asked one yet00:18
arrrghhhmost ppl probably see the cab and think it's easier, because that's how most things in winmo are installed.00:18
arrrghhhwhich is why i wish he'd pull it, this isn't just some app for winmo lol00:18
arrrghhhplus, the newest cab seems to be borked.00:19
justlocoyea i thought i had to flash it or something lol00:19
justlocoaight cool deal aight let me try it out be back in a few00:19
justlocothx im sure i'll be back00:20
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nahyahhi~00:24
nahyahi was wondering if anyone here can help me figure this out00:24
nahyahmake -j`grep 'processor' /proc/cpuinfo | wc -l` otapackage00:24
arrrghhhwtf are you doing00:25
nahyahWhat you need to do is pick the reg out of the xps for example:00:25
nahyahyou take APLL_LOCK and put it nicely in excel, then you do in haret:00:25
nahyahpdump 0x7e00F000 4 --> you paste this register after the APLL_LOCK00:25
nahyahsorry00:25
nahyahwhat am i supposed to do here?00:25
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arrrghhhnahyah, uhm.... ask questions?00:25
arrrghhhi'm not sure what you are doing.00:25
nahyahi am trying to use HaRet to make some mmu dump and mem dump00:26
arrrghhhah00:26
nahyahtrying to run android on omnia 200:26
arrrghhhwhat device00:26
arrrghhhomnia00:26
nahyahi92000:26
nahyahcdma version00:26
arrrghhhis that htc?00:26
arrrghhhsounds like a sammy00:27
nahyahno samsung00:27
arrrghhhyea, we don't do that here :P00:27
arrrghhhi don't think there is a #samsung-linux either lol00:27
nahyahnope theres no channel i can find00:27
nahyahdev named almar got it working on GSM version of omnia and is willing to help if we can get him the info00:28
nahyahand thats what he aksed us to do00:28
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nahyahhave no idea what xps is...00:28
arrrghhhprobably need haretconsole00:28
arrrghhhusually that's where you dump info from.00:29
nahyahi got the mmu00:29
nahyahfrom telnet00:29
arrrghhhso grab the info he's asking to dump00:29
nahyahi have on the log "Virtual Address" "Physical Address" "Description" and "Flags" and 25000+ lines of addresses00:32
nahyahhes asking me to sort out xps and i have no idea what xps is00:32
arrrghhhhrm00:33
arrrghhhi don't either.00:33
nahyahhttp://www.modaco.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=330325&view=findpost&p=158515800:35
nahyahthats the link to the forum if it helps..00:35
RogueAgentAnyone know if there is a way to copy messages off xda when its connected to a pc?00:43
arrrghhhyou mean tapatalk?00:43
arrrghhhi'm confused.00:43
hycI think he means "xda" as in the device00:44
arrrghhhoh00:45
arrrghhhmessages as SMS?00:45
arrrghhhnot to my knowledge, but adb is pretty powerful.  there might be some way to do it...00:45
hyctitanium backup can backup SMS messages, so there's probably a file somewhere you can adb pull.00:46
arrrghhhOo didn't know that.00:46
arrrghhhi use gv, and delete my messages like i have ocd.00:46
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RogueAgentand yes i did mean xda as the devocie00:48
RogueAgentit was supposed to be xdandroid00:48
RogueAgent:P00:48
arrrghhhmeh00:50
arrrghhhyou should've just said adb :P00:50
RogueAgentwhat is adb?00:51
arrrghhhandroid debugging bridge00:52
RogueAgentah00:52
arrrghhhthe xda thingy you see in your winblows box00:52
justlocoHey Arrrghhh everything is up and running but for some reason its not reading my SD card.00:53
arrrghhhjustloco, format the card using the HP tool00:53
justlocowhich tool is that?00:54
arrrghhhhttp://www.eocfiles.com/bdc86eb1ed2989c30dcd1902e84939ae/bootdisks/SP27608.exe00:54
arrrghhhfull format00:54
arrrghhhfat3200:54
arrrghhhyou can backup everything on the card and put it back if you wish.  or start fresh, either way.00:54
justlocoawesome00:54
justlocothx brb00:54
arrrghhhnp00:56
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RogueAgentAnybody know if f22 made a new one of his rootfs?01:18
arrrghhhfor...?01:19
arrrghhhAFAIK he squashed all the remaining bugs.01:19
RogueAgentI thought I needed a new rootfs for frx401:19
hycthere is a new one with new key maps and Home button01:20
RogueAgentyeah but that thing is disturbing01:21
RogueAgentone button for unlock and another for lock is kinda silly01:21
RogueAgentunless im missing something01:21
hyc? what lock and unlock?01:22
arrrghhhRogueAgent, what are you talking about01:23
RogueAgentthe custom rootfs01:23
RogueAgenton ppcgeeks01:23
arrrghhhthere's like 501:23
RogueAgenti can't unlock using the end key, but it locks the device01:23
arrrghhhand we're talking about autobuild01:24
RogueAgentum01:24
RogueAgentI'm confused01:24
RogueAgentok01:24
arrrghhhare you talking about F22's rootfs?01:24
RogueAgentThe autobuild one does not have a button for recent apps correct?01:24
arrrghhhi didn't think he had a thread on xda.01:24
arrrghhher01:24
arrrghhhsorry01:24
arrrghhhi didn't think he had a thread on ppcg01:24
RogueAgentI was using f22s01:24
arrrghhhi thought it was just on xda.01:24
RogueAgentnono01:24
arrrghhhxda thread is up to date.01:24
RogueAgentf22s is not the one im using now01:25
RogueAgentdo u ahve a link to the xda one01:25
RogueAgentcuz the one i found on ppcgeeks is like f22s except the power button does the home and recent apps, but the end buttonm doesn't lock and unlock the device and its driving me nuts01:25
RogueAgentEnd locks the device and power unlcoks it01:26
RogueAgentfound it nm01:27
RogueAgentOH snap01:31
RogueAgentits broken atm01:31
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F22RogueAgent: What's broken?03:58
F22RogueAgent: My latest rootfs for the rhodium may be found at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=93571003:58
RogueAgentthe front buttons04:02
RogueAgentaren't they broke f22?04:03
F22what rhodium model do you have?04:03
RogueAgentLAst post still says the menu back and phone button are all the same correct?04:03
RogueAgentrhod50004:03
F22ahhh...yes. i need to fix that.04:03
F22that explains why you're using the older version.04:03
RogueAgentI"m using someone elses04:04
RogueAgentcuz I couldn't find yours04:04
RogueAgentmanekineko's Avatar04:05
RogueAgentmanekineko04:05
RogueAgentBut his rootfs is driving me nuts04:05
F22what's in his Avatar?04:06
RogueAgenthttp://forum.ppcgeeks.com/tp2-android-development/140124-1-31-patched-rootfs-more-working-keyboard-keys-classic-home-rhod210-400-500-a.html04:07
RogueAgentnhothing04:07
RogueAgenti found his posts on ppcgeeks04:07
RogueAgentHe kept so end end calls04:07
RogueAgentbut it drives me nuts because of using winmo and your rootfs for so long04:08
RogueAgentI mean if I knew what i was doing I would merge hte 204:09
RogueAgentand it would be perfect04:09
F22heh, he took my older rootfs and made a few changes.04:10
RogueAgentIf his would unlock on end key it would be perfect04:10
RogueAgentbut it doesn;t04:10
RogueAgentI'm weird, what I would want it to be is both buttons to be able to sleep and wake the device04:11
RogueAgentbut have the power button held would bring up the recent apps04:11
RogueAgentand end bring up the power menu04:11
F22not sure i follow you. i take it he's made the power button behave as home.04:12
RogueAgentyesa04:12
F22so end is now power.04:12
RogueAgentcorrect04:12
RogueAgentbut end on his wont wake up the device04:12
RogueAgentand his power won't sleep the device04:12
F22ow04:13
RogueAgentso you sleep with one and wake with the other04:13
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F22sleep and wake should be the same.04:13
hycheh. not on the G1. Sleep is END, Wake is Menu.04:13
RogueAgentIf I knew what i was doing the powerbutton short: sleep/wake long: recent apps End: Sleep/wake power menu04:14
RogueAgentBut I'm not even sure thats possible04:14
RogueAgentnope no mattter how much i press the end key doesn't wake the device with is04:14
RogueAgentand it drives me nuts04:14
F22recent apps is directly tied to the home button in the framework. no way to reassign it without rewriting part of the framework.04:15
RogueAgentThats what I thought :P04:15
RogueAgentI can wish though04:15
F22lo, certainly04:15
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F22s/lo/lol/04:15
F22lol04:15
RogueAgentjust means I have to wait for you to fix yours04:16
RogueAgentit comes cdlos04:16
RogueAgentI don't take enough phonecalls to care :P04:16
RogueAgentbout end button ending calls04:16
RogueAgentHth did he break the end button waking hte device04:17
F22i use the power button to end calls. easier that way since my finger is already there during a call.04:17
F22don't have to change my grip.04:17
RogueAgenttrue04:17
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RogueAgentI'm going to wait till march04:18
RogueAgentsee what hte droid bionic looks like before i go for an actual droid phone04:18
F22i've been thinking about making an option to reassign end to camera, and probably make the call button home instead.04:18
F22too many features, not enough buttons on the tp2... :P04:19
RogueAgentum04:19
RogueAgentCan you edit the other buttons now f22?04:19
F22which other buttons?04:19
RogueAgentphone menu and back04:19
RogueAgentyou said before that you had issues reassigning them04:20
RogueAgentI believed I asked you before why you couldn't just make call button home before04:20
RogueAgentYou leave all the buttons the same and make call button home04:21
RogueAgentand you will be a god in my book04:21
F22only the 500 has an issue right now. something in the microp layout file is causing android to choke and fail to load it. i'm going to be looking at that now.04:21
RogueAgentor at least give me the option to disable the camera button somehow04:21
RogueAgentWait04:21
RogueAgentif your going to bind a camera button04:21
RogueAgentdid they fix thecamera?04:21
F22it's a text file and it looks good to me at first glance. i'll compare it with the last working version i still have.04:22
RogueAgenthow hard is it to make a rootfs?04:22
F22you want call button to be home and the endcall button to stay endcall?04:23
RogueAgentyes04:23
RogueAgentand the power button to just be aq power button04:23
RogueAgentlike it is normally/ sleep mode/ wake04:24
RogueAgent:P04:24
F22that would require another microp layout file for each handset that gets the option.04:24
F22as things currently stand.04:24
RogueAgentWhich is why I asked how hard it was04:25
F22i'd like to move all that into sys on the kernel end, and then have it assignable in software. but that's later.04:25
RogueAgentcuz if it wasn't ridiculously difficult I'd do it myself04:25
RogueAgentIf I'll spend 6 hrs scripting a wow ui for a game, I'm pretty sure I could spend a few hours building a file so i can use my phone like i want04:26
F22do you have linux running on a computer?04:26
RogueAgentI do not04:26
RogueAgentBut I can change that quickly04:26
F22that would have made it easier04:26
RogueAgentDepends on what i have to do with linux04:27
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F22basically, the rootfs.img is read-only in android. you need to open it up for editing. in linux you can mount it via loopback, edit your .kl file, and then restart your handset. not sure how you would open it up for editing in windows. you could also download the rootfs "source" from the git, edit the kl in there, and then make a virtual ext2 file system out of that. but there'd be more to learn that way.04:30
RogueAgentI see04:31
RogueAgentwill you be online about htis time 2morrow?04:31
F22changing the file is easy. getting the file back into your root image is the part that takes some knowledge.04:31
F22probably not04:32
F22it's 4:30am here.04:32
RogueAgentoh04:32
RogueAgentWhat time are you usually on?04:32
F22varies from day to day04:32
F22no set time really04:32
RogueAgentWelp I will build a linux box during the day 2morrow04:32
RogueAgentand hopefully catch you sometime04:32
F22ok04:33
F22i think there is a thread on ppcgeeks about building a rootfs you may find useful.04:33
RogueAgentHow To Compile Your Own Kernels, Modules, Tinboot (NAND boot), and More for Beginne04:34
RogueAgentis this it?04:34
RogueAgentoh nifty i can just virtual box it04:35
F22yup04:35
F22that's the one04:35
RogueAgentI was going to build a whole nother pc for it04:35
F22in particular, you want the top, along with making the rootfs.04:35
F22you can do that too if you want. :)04:35
hyccool, sipdroid is working. there's a strange noise on the speaker, but it's not part of the conversation.04:36
hycother side sounds clear04:36
RogueAgentif i disconnect i apologize04:37
F22honestly, there will probably be a version of my rootfs that assigns the call button to home in the near future.  that said, feel free to get your toes wet and do it yourself if you have the inclination.04:38
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F22i included the scaffolding to allow the selection of microp layout options in the current rootfs as evidenced by the rhod300 options available.04:39
RogueAgentWhy wait04:39
RogueAgentI got disconnected sry f2204:39
RogueAgentwas there something beside telling me to get my toes wet and scaffolding?04:39
F22why wait? i need to figure out what's going on with the 500 first. i can actually get them both done today.04:40
RogueAgentoh no04:41
RogueAgentthat was going to say Why wait? when I could get it done today04:41
F22ah, lol04:41
F22feel free04:41
F22the change to the kl is actually pretty easy.04:41
RogueAgentand If my phone explodes cuz I suck I can just use yours :P04:41
F22you just need to change CALL to HOME.04:42
RogueAgentk04:42
RogueAgentwill endcall be endcall?04:42
F22depends on which existing kl you work from...04:43
RogueAgenthmm04:43
RogueAgentis the kl whats broken in yours?04:43
F22basically the kl file assigns the scan code of the physical key to a keycode.04:43
F22CALL & HOME are constants that represent the numerical values for the call and home keycodes.04:44
F22yes, the microp layout for the 500 is what i will be going over now.04:45
F22button 4 however is not microp, it's gpio.04:45
F22different layout file04:45
RogueAgentah04:45
RogueAgentOnce you get one that works, I'll be able to tear it apart and learn what i need to :P04:46
F22leave it to htc to make things needlessly confusing. :P04:46
F22ok, i'm going to go silent for a bit while i look at it more closely.04:47
RogueAgenthave fun04:47
F22RogueAgent: how long are you going to be around?04:56
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RogueAgentf22 a few hours05:13
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RogueAgenthow goes it f2206:06
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F22aside from the fact that the rhod500 kl was edited on a windows box and thus has a carriage return at the end of every line as well as a newline, i'm not seeing much. i overwrote the 500 kl with the 400 kl and i'm testing that right now. i just want to make absolutely certain it is definitely something in that file.06:11
F22yup, works fine with the rhod400 kl, aside from the fact that the last row of keys is mixed up because they're different between the two handsets.06:13
F22i'm wondering if there is some weird interaction going on with those carriage returns and my later edits where there are no carriage returns at the end of some lines.06:13
F22the other kl's have no carriage returns at the end of their lines, it's just the 500.06:14
F22it used to work fine despite the carriage returns however.06:15
RogueAgenthmm06:24
RogueAgentbrb06:26
RogueAgentwatching cyclone webcams06:27
RogueAgentworried about some friends so im going to go smoke06:27
F22ok06:29
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F22RogueAgent: fixed. give me a few minutes and i'll post a new rootfs07:10
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F22RogueAgent: rootfs w/ rhod500 bug fix posted.08:45
arrrghhhF22, wistilt2's new kernel blew my phone up :(08:46
F22ow.08:46
arrrghhhwoke up this morning to a completely dead phone.  nothing would get it to turn on, had to plug it in for ~10 mins before it would even respond.08:47
F22battery drained it sounds like.08:47
arrrghhhindeed08:47
arrrghhhit was at almost 90%08:47
arrrghhhand it was only 6 hrs08:47
arrrghhhvery odd08:47
F22you didn't by any chance leave gps on overnight did you?08:47
arrrghhhhaha no08:47
F22lol08:47
F22ok08:48
arrrghhhit was "sleeping" when i went to sleep.08:48
arrrghhhi check that i have green led before i sleep.08:48
F22i went to bed early last night, haven't been getting enough sleep of late. ;)08:48
arrrghhhhaha08:48
arrrghhh6hrs is about my min.08:48
arrrghhhi usually try to get 8.08:48
arrrghhhneighbors were over again... it was one of their b-day's.08:48
F22i read08:49
arrrghhhyea08:49
arrrghhhwoot08:49
F22that you had a party or something08:49
arrrghhhyea, the dude threw a surprise party for his wife... er gf... whatever.08:49
arrrghhhfunny part is, she threw him out on friday.  so he canceled his plans08:49
arrrghhhthen on sunday she did a 18008:49
arrrghhhand begged his ass to stay08:50
arrrghhhso then he had to scramble to put a party together for her.  and basically no one showed up because of the short notice & stupid drama.08:50
F22geez, now i have a request to add a russian keymap for the rhodium...lol08:50
arrrghhhbleh08:50
arrrghhhrussian?08:50
arrrghhhthere's a rhod100_ru?08:50
F22yep08:50
arrrghhhdamn.08:51
F22we've never had a keymap/layout set for it in our git however.08:51
arrrghhhanyhoo, neighbors are drama queens.  f-in stupid.08:51
F22mighty generous of you to host a party in your own home for f-in stupid drama queen neighbors. :P08:51
arrrghhhha08:51
arrrghhhwe just gathered here after the "party"08:52
arrrghhhbut yea08:52
arrrghhhmost of the time they're cool, they're just starting to be mooches.08:52
F22mooches aren't cool.08:52
arrrghhhyea.  for the time being i'm letting them slide, as they're both unemployed08:52
arrrghhhlol08:52
arrrghhhthe fun never ends, i tell ya.08:53
arrrghhhah well, i should probably go wade thru the crashes to get to work.  cya on the flip side.08:53
F22lol08:55
F22i can understand about being unemployed with this economy however.08:55
F22hopefully they'll just remember you when times are better... ;)08:55
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davehello09:14
daveI have a Raphael09:14
dave(HTC Touch Pro)09:14
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Guest76711I'm ok to make XDANDROID running09:14
Guest76711but the battery indicator is not displaying correctly09:15
Guest76711also, it seems that the battery drains fast09:15
Guest76711anyone here?09:17
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Mehrshadrhi all09:18
Mehrshadri want to be a developer :D09:18
Mehrshadrand i dont know any thing09:18
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Daterhello! anybody here?13:17
Dateri own a htc diamond. if I install the most current build on it, can I try out apps like the Star Trek Tricorder? I know it doesn't have a accelormeter but will be able to use the compass, gps, wifi and microphone?13:20
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imranhi all i am back13:48
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stinebdit's dangerous to go alone. take this. -|===>18:57
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stinebdwho was i talking to the other day, about debug.sf.hw?20:17
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stinebdanyway for some reason i felt like looking into that prop, and it's only used by qsd8k's gralloc20:21
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arrrghhhdunno20:23
arrrghhhmankinenko?20:23
stinebdwho cares. i win.20:23
arrrghhhlol20:25
arrrghhhnot sure what you won20:25
stinebdi won the internet20:25
arrrghhhlol20:26
arrrghhh1 internets to you sir20:26
stinebdgonna turn jit back on here20:26
stinebdexpect dalvik to get a little egypty20:28
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stinebdarrrghhh: feel like maintaining froyo?20:46
stinebddidn't think so20:46
arrrghhhOoO GB out?20:46
stinebdit'd be nice if we had both20:47
arrrghhhyea20:47
arrrghhhwe still can20:47
arrrghhhjust let it rot like eclair, some ppl still use that :P20:47
stinebdonly the zomgfast psychos20:47
arrrghhhyea20:47
stinebddespite it being slower and buggier20:47
arrrghhhnever made any sense to me20:48
arrrghhhbut they all claim it's soooo much faster...20:48
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F22stinebd: why are you turning jit back on? because the "zomgfast psychos" like having phones that crash?20:56
stinebdjust for fun20:57
stinebdi believe i'm entitled to that20:57
* F22 wonders if stinebd is secretly a closet masochist... 20:57
F22certainly, i'd never come between another man and his "fun", assuming everyone involved is legal. :P20:59
F22stinebd: i have a rhod400 for you. the donor didn't send its usb charger cable/adapter with it however. i've been trying to get a hold of him, but he seems to have fallen off the planet. TheDeadCPU tells me that HTC cables are pretty much the same and that your raph cable should work fine with it.21:02
stinebdi'm pretty sure i have several mini/extusb cables and chargers21:03
F22ok, pm or email me your address and i'll ship it to you.21:03
hycyeah, HTC has been using the same 11-pin connector for everything, and regular miniUSB cables work for data+power21:03
stinebdquery incoming21:03
stinebdi assume you'd be delivering it by hand?21:05
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F22lol21:09
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F22actually i probably could do that if i had reason to be up in your area. you're basically a 2 hour drive.21:10
stinebdcreepy21:11
F22i'm too lazy to stalk you however. :P21:11
arrrghhhlol21:11
stinebdi was convinced i was the only smart person on xda within about 500 miles21:12
arrrghhhi was just going to ask if you've ever been stalked by a military jet stinebd21:12
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F22you'll have to settle for me following your blog every once and a while.21:12
stinebdall these noobs with tmobile and sprint and verizon in america, then all those elitist snobs from france with their three-digit IQs21:13
F22lol21:13
F22Isn't ACL from the NYC area? He's not far from you.21:13
stinebduh oh21:13
stinebdgood thing he's not in here21:14
F22lol21:14
arrrghhhstinebd, so... Pohket potentially found a fix for WEP21:16
stinebdoh yeah i forgot to answer him21:16
arrrghhhbut it doesn't make sense.21:16
arrrghhhit does work... i just don't know why it works.21:16
arrrghhhi assume other devices use the same wpa_supplicant.conf21:16
stinebdwe don't ask why21:16
arrrghhhlol21:17
arrrghhhi keep forgetting that the RHOD is the only one using the bcm driver...21:17
arrrghhhwell the fix isn't pretty.  and we're not sure where it should go.21:17
F22did he have you make that change to wpa_supplicant.conf?21:17
arrrghhhyea21:17
arrrghhhjust removed "SHARED" from the line with 'OPEN SHARED'21:17
stinebdlol21:17
arrrghhhyea21:17
arrrghhhthe "auth_alg=" line21:18
arrrghhhi had the most trouble trying to setup my network to use WEP lol21:18
F22he told me that it was only set up to work for shared.21:18
arrrghhhman it's a PITA compared to WPA21:18
arrrghhhF22, it seems you remove whichever one the network isn't using21:19
arrrghhhor doesn't support?21:19
arrrghhhnot really clear on that either.21:19
F22i think pohket is the first dev to care enough to look into it.21:19
arrrghhhi noticed mine was connected on my pc using open21:19
arrrghhhso i removed shared21:19
arrrghhhvoila21:19
arrrghhhyea, probably.21:19
F22i pointed him where to look this morning and we kept up a running convo on it all morning. i don't use wifi however. i keep planning to pick up a wireless router, but i don't really need it, so i keep waiting until something with the best features comes down in price...not that the tp2 can take advantage of 802.11n let alone the latest n "features". it's all about future proofing...yeah...that's it... :P21:24
stinebdi'd like to try this out with wpa_supp 0.6.x21:24
stinebdusing that version will most likely break ti but i'd like to see if the behavior on bcm is any different21:25
arrrghhhlol21:25
F22what version are we running?21:27
arrrghhhlol i've got 2 waps F2221:27
arrrghhhmy buddy just picked up a new gigabit one, so i bought his old wrt54g for $10 haha21:28
F22for $10 i'd take a wrt54g21:29
arrrghhhit provides my neighbor internet21:29
arrrghhhhahaha21:29
F22and promptly install linux on it. :P21:29
arrrghhhmy main wap is a 600n21:29
arrrghhhboth running ddwrt :P21:30
F22lol, yup.21:30
arrrghhhgotta have gigabit for my media streaming.21:31
arrrghhhthose 1080p vids spike to 500mbps+21:31
F22ahh, yes21:31
stinebdthis'll be real interesting21:36
stinebdcould roll a system image with both wpa_supp versions somehow, or forward port the ti wpa_supp driver to 0.6.x21:36
arrrghhhforward port21:37
arrrghhhsounds cool21:37
stinebdor21:37
stinebdswitch to wl1251 driver21:37
F22lol21:37
stinebdand 0.6.x21:37
arrrghhhblow it all up stine.21:38
arrrghhhjust rip wifi out, no one uses it.21:38
stinebdthe advantage of switching drivers (in theory) is that my good friend will at one point work on softap support for it21:39
F22we get a lot of complaints about the ti driver too. particularly about it not being able to come back on after being turned off. i've been wondering why we've been working from a package instead of the git. never got around to comparing the two however and the git hasn't been updated in something like 10 months. so...*shrug*21:40
arrrghhhhrm21:41
arrrghhhyea, i have a bug on the on/off crap.21:41
arrrghhhthere's one guy who won't give it a rest lol21:42
F22lol, i know. i read the logs.21:42
arrrghhhimran21:42
arrrghhhbastage21:42
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hycthe G1 uses tiwlan, and the G1 devs stay up to date21:44
hycof course, it's been working regardless of wpa_supplicant 0.5 or 0.621:45
hycI recall I had to build my own to get WPA working back on Donut21:45
stinebdeh, which g1 rom uses 0.6.x?21:46
hyclemme check what I have right now, 1 sec. I think the gingerbread builds do21:46
hycmy CM6.1 is 0.5.1121:47
stinebdall the dev trees i've seen, including gingerbread, have been using 0.5.x still21:48
hycok21:48
hycI remember seeing a reference to 0.6 but can't find it now21:48
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GregTampaI jsut installed the xdandriod blazn, and it says launcher pro expired or something.. whats up with that anyone else got that?22:09
GregTampaguess not, well i'll continue my hunt in locating my anwser.22:12
GregTampaBut no solution for now except :  - Try to crash LauncherPro - Get an internet connexion and upgrade LP using the displayed web page - use a task killer if one exist and is running - try to get into android settings ...  I had a data connection and manage to get rid of this probleme.  I really don't understand why an "official" release can expire and most of all I don't understand how they dare to block the launcher !! That's the22:13
stinebdrawr22:13
stinebdexcept blazn isn't ours22:13
GregTampadurr22:13
GregTampasry then, it had your logo.22:14
stinebdour logo is public domain22:14
GregTampawhere can i get a copy of yours then?22:14
stinebdhttp://xdandroid.com/22:14
GregTampaaight ill try it, it works with htc tp2 if i read correct.. gotta go through setup i guess.22:15
stinebdand when it does happen that there's a bug in one of our builds (which is frequently) please don't come here spewing complaints.22:15
GregTampathx for assit*22:15
stinebdwe're all working for free in our spare time22:15
GregTampana wasn't complaining was looking for a fix.22:15
GregTampaim downloading the source now to help modify it.22:15
F22stinebd: do you know off-hand what the recommended way to change adb's default shell happens to be?   i'm concerned that simply replacing /system/bin/sh may inadvertently blow up some scripts.  i want my command line editing, history & file name completion in adb without having to type 2 letters and press enter every time. :P22:16
GregTampaim sick of using windows mobile.. :)22:16
stinebdF22: maybe editing init.cfg/init.$buildtype.rc (service console)22:17
stinebdor just adb shell /path/to/othershell22:17
stinebdheh22:17
F22yep, i've been considering just making an alias for the last option.22:18
F22i was hoping for something more elegant though. i'll look into the first though.22:18
GregTampaThank you Bryan for your help once again. Hopefully I can contribute soon to the community.22:19
GregTampaI better be able to play angry birds after all this trouble...heh...22:20
* arrrghhh stabs GregTampa in the face with an Angry Bird22:21
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stinebdarmv6j optimization is back22:22
stinebdin ginger22:22
stinebdstolen from cm again22:22
arrrghhhnice22:22
F22cm is great :)22:23
stinebdsometimes22:23
stinebdfrom a user standpoint, not my cup of tea really22:23
arrrghhhcm code pillaging is great22:23
stinebdi much prefer the stock experience22:23
arrrghhhhell, htc does it22:23
F22i stole the hexcode for the sym key from CM's G1 keymap.22:24
F22not that they created it, but they made it very convenient to look through.22:25
arrrghhhlol22:25
stinebdlaptop demands chargage22:26
GregTampaQuestion again: i downloaded the  current XDAndroid release package system-FRX04.ext2.xip, it only has the system.ext2 file.. missing folders?22:27
arrrghhhthat's not a build22:28
arrrghhhjust the system image22:28
GregTampaaccording to wiki installation guide it should have andboot....with an .img file?22:28
arrrghhhi need to make a new bundle22:28
arrrghhhGregTampa, that's for compiling from source...22:28
stinebdhttp://files.xdandroid.com/XDANDROID.2.2.1.AOSP.FRX03.21.11.10.FULL_PACKAGE.zip22:28
arrrghhhyou're just downloading.22:28
arrrghhhthere's a FRX04 bundle22:29
arrrghhhwith 125322:29
arrrghhhon reef's site...22:29
stinebdmaybe we should just start packaging the winmo side separately22:29
GregTampaAh i gota ya, found the right page with the zips now.. so which one should i pick... hmmm22:29
GregTampaaight full pack it is22:30
arrrghhhGregTampa, if you like22:30
arrrghhhthere's a pack out there with the newest stuff22:30
stinebdany word from glemsom?22:30
arrrghhhthe only thing that isn't the newest in it is the rootfs.22:30
stinebdi suspect he won't be returning22:30
arrrghhhstinebd, i haven't heard from him in a while.22:30
arrrghhhi saw him pop in the other day, but didn't say anything and i missed him.22:30
GregTampahttp://htcandroid.xland.cz/XDANDROID.2.2.1.AOSP.FRX03.21.11.10.FULL_PACKAGE is the one im d/ling22:30
arrrghhhGregTampa, that's fine, it's just from november.22:31
arrrghhhyou'll want to update it22:31
GregTampaas grrr!22:31
F22stinebd, no word from Glemsom as far as i know. His site was down for a bit, but then came back up. not sure what happened. Still no new kernels.22:32
arrrghhhyea, i'm wondering if we need to setup another autobuild.22:32
stinebdand of course by we you mean me22:32
stinebdi see how it is22:32
F22lol22:32
arrrghhhactually, i was thinkin wistilt222:33
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GregTampa_sry phone disconnected :) there a link to d/l the one with the included update?22:33
arrrghhhhe setup a box for acl and his nand tree lickety split22:33
arrrghhhGregTampa_, sure22:33
F22give me a site and i can auto-scp to it.22:33
arrrghhhi don't have the b/w22:33
GregTampa_hook it up if u can spare the time.22:34
arrrghhhotherwise i would just host it22:34
GregTampa_i can host something for ya arrghh22:34
stinebdi've got bandwidth, cycles and infrastructure :(22:34
arrrghhhGregTampa_, http://reefermattness.scepterr.info/XDAndroid2.2Froyo.012211.rar22:34
arrrghhhGregTampa_, not sure you want to host this friend...22:34
GregTampa_i got servers at the dallas infomart doing nothing...22:34
arrrghhhthey'll get hammered22:35
GregTampa_unless it illegal, then i can toss it on another server :)22:35
arrrghhhlol no it's legal22:35
arrrghhhit's our kernel autobuild service22:35
GregTampa_then i got the bandwidth :)22:35
arrrghhhbeen down since like 12/422:35
F22lol, i wish i could auto-post kernels to mediafire...lol, that would be neat.22:35
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arrrghhhmakes me a saaaaaad panda22:35
GregTampa_one sec ill pull our stats for ya22:36
GregTampa_i got a 10 Gig E fiber line advailable for 2 weeks...22:37
GregTampa_unlimited traffic22:37
arrrghhh2 weeks?  we'd need it longer than that :P22:37
GregTampa_well i can allow it longer if i knew approx how much data xfer will be going on.22:38
F22arrrghhh: not sure wistilt2 wants that sort of traffic either given how he doesn't publish his test kernel download url.22:38
GregTampa_I have no problem doing something for you guys, would be like me donating to u:)22:38
arrrghhhF22, he just doesn't want people testing it w/o his knowledge.  he used to post the link in the room, and people would dl it a lot.22:39
arrrghhhlurkers looking at logs, etc.22:39
stinebdi posted it to wikileaks22:39
F22lol22:39
arrrghhhlol22:39
GregTampa_lmfao22:39
arrrghhhall makes sense now...22:39
GregTampa_i got a server at the same place that host wikileaks :)22:39
F22arrrghhh: so instead you put them up on multiupload...22:40
arrrghhhque?22:40
GregTampa_what ever happened to 50megs.com ?22:40
arrrghhhi attach them to the post.22:40
GregTampa_how big is the file a gig or 2 or we talking 100 or so mbs?22:41
F22arrrghhh: i could have sworn you put the first few up on multiload, but you're right, they're under the max file limited. so it makes sense just to attach them directly.22:41
F22multiupload.22:42
F22max file limit.22:42
F22sheesh22:42
GregTampa_rapidshare, or even make a seed for them and start them on torrents :)22:42
F22can't spell tonight22:42
arrrghhhi usually use multiupload if it's too big22:43
arrrghhhfor da forums22:43
F22GregTampa: Kernel packages are about 2.2 MB each.  Not that big.22:43
GregTampa_ok i got the file downloaded moved to sdcard, now i have to modify some startup file right?22:44
GregTampa_arrrghhh u kidding me 2.2 mb's i can host that all day streaming if u want :)22:44
arrrghhhit's not the filesize22:45
arrrghhhjust a lot of people hitting it22:45
GregTampa_its the connects/users22:45
arrrghhhso long as you have unlimited, s/b fine.22:45
GregTampa_yeah i do22:45
arrrghhhyea, all use the same kernel.  we support a ton of devices.22:45
F22my latest kernel which was put up on the 13th has had 2,228 downloads.22:45
arrrghhhwhich it seems like is going to get broken down coming soon.  is that just boardfiles, or the kernel itself?22:45
GregTampa_im worry about if it slow down network...22:45
GregTampa_2k downloads is crap22:46
GregTampa_i have a cdn u can use if you think u will have a million+ downloads22:46
GregTampa_i have an account on limelight cdn network... that i bearly use the 500gig cap.22:46
GregTampa_i use like 20 gigs a month.22:46
stinebd<F22> my latest kernel which was put up on the 13th has had 2,228 downloads.22:47
stinebdyou should see how bad the system images get hammered22:47
arrrghhhwell, those are 120mb lol22:47
arrrghhhi'm sure stinebd would love to host those elsewhere lol22:48
stinebdi do22:48
stinebdbut i use redirects so i can still get stats22:48
arrrghhhhaha22:48
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F22i don't have quite the monopoly on kernels that Glemsom had. PixelWattStudios builds stock kernels too.  Then there are WisTilt2 and VirusCrazy's test kernels which are also highly popular.  That no doubt cuts the number of downloads down a bit. I myself tend to use WisTilt2's kernels more than my own builds due to the improved power management for rhodium.22:50
arrrghhhyea, improved is kinda an understatement.22:50
arrrghhhdid you see the drain he experienced on the newest?22:51
arrrghhh2% drain over 8hrs.22:51
F22something like 0.25% an hour.22:51
F22lol, yep22:51
arrrghhhinsanity.22:51
arrrghhhi think he needs to stop improving battery life for rhod and look at getting it to work on other devices lol22:51
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GregTampaok question again22:52
F22yes, the system images are huge. i can understand why you haven't advertised your packages stinebd, and left the glory to Bab and Reef.22:52
GregTampainside of program files/xdandroidstartup there is an unnamed file.. cant delete it..should i try my hacker tricks to remove it?22:53
arrrghhhuh... what?22:53
GregTampa465kb22:53
arrrghhhis it really bothering you?22:53
GregTampamodified 9/28/201022:53
arrrghhhtechnically you don't need the Program Files directory at all.22:53
GregTampayes it is!22:53
arrrghhh...22:53
arrrghhhdelete the entire program files directory then.22:54
GregTampaspecially since i cant delete it in windows22:54
GregTampacant cause that damn file in it22:54
arrrghhhlmao22:54
arrrghhhsuck it up then?22:54
arrrghhhi dunno dude.22:54
GregTampacreated: blank modified bkank etc.22:54
arrrghhhblame reef22:56
GregTampalmfao "You need permission from Everyone to make changed to this file" bahaha22:56
GregTampaim administrator..22:56
GregTampaok i just renamed the folder screw changing all the permissions stupid cdcard22:58
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GregTampaok i just renamed the folder screw changing all the permissions stupid cdcard23:04
GregTampanow i need a damn startup.txt file for touch pro2 the zip file i downloaded didnt have startup config filder :(23:05
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GregTampaQuestion again: board-htcrhodium.is_cdma=1  mean it isnt cdma? cause i thought 0 means no... im gsm or whatever23:07
arrrghhhthat's for camera23:08
arrrghhhso you can remove that command entirely23:08
GregTampana i like it23:08
stinebdit will brick your phone on a non-camera kernel!23:08
* stinebd runs23:08
GregTampareview this: set cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmts_calib=0x9f.0x39a.0x35c.0x78  clock_7x00.grp=0xa99  hw3d.force=1 board-htcrhodium.is_cdma=1  msmvkeyb_toggle=off pmem.extra=1 force_cdma=1  gsensor_axis=2,1,3 pm.sleep_mode=0  physkeyboard=rhod400"   that look about right?23:08
F22you have a sprint tp2?23:09
GregTampaso remove the camera that add?23:09
arrrghhhyou can remove the msmts23:09
GregTampano i have t-mobile tp223:09
arrrghhhthe clock_7x0023:09
F22change 400 to 21023:09
arrrghhhdo that23:09
arrrghhhremove the force_cdma23:09
F22rhod400 to rhod210 that is23:09
arrrghhhremove the board-htcrhod23:09
arrrghhhsleep_mode=1 is what i recommend23:09
arrrghhhyou can also remove the hw3d evidently.  1 is now the default.23:10
F22yup, what arrrghhh said.23:10
arrrghhhi need to update those startups.23:11
GregTampaf22 whats the rhod210 do?23:11
arrrghhhi'm almost thinkin i should create a new thread23:11
arrrghhhkeyboard layout23:11
GregTampaanywho: set cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmts_calib=0x9f.0x39a.0x35c.0x78  clock_7x00.grp=0xa99  msmvkeyb_toggle=off pmem.extra=1 force_cdma=1  gsensor_axis=2,1,3 pm.sleep_mode=1  physkeyboard=rhod210"23:11
arrrghhhif you have a tmo rhod, that's the 210.23:11
arrrghhhGregTampa, remove the msmts and the clock_7x0023:11
arrrghhhoh and pmem.extra.  didn't see that one.23:11
F22yep, the US T-Mobile TP2 has a different keyboard layout than the 400 which is the Sprint model.23:11
arrrghhhand the force_cdma!23:11
F22you already said force_cdma. ;)23:11
GregTampadoes the space matter inbetween cmds?23:12
arrrghhhset cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmvkeyb_toggle=off  gsensor_axis=2,1,3 pm.sleep_mode=1  physkeyboard=rhod210"23:12
arrrghhhthere.23:12
arrrghhhyes, you need the spaces23:12
arrrghhhjust one between each command.23:12
GregTampathx im stupid23:12
arrrghhhnp23:12
F22yes, spaces matter, or it assumes they're just one big command.23:12
F22er option23:12
arrrghhhthe FAQ is a great resource, but not the end-all.23:12
arrrghhhGregTampa, have you read the FAQ/23:12
arrrghhh?23:13
GregTampayes23:13
arrrghhhok23:13
GregTampaits missing some stuff23:13
F22well the kernel assumes they're all one big command.23:13
GregTampalike bold print GregTampa look here--->23:13
F22userland handles it a bit differently, mostly via grep, which doesn't care.23:13
GregTampai cant believe you can brick ur phone from wrong cmdline...23:14
arrrghhhbrick?23:15
GregTampayeah the startup.txt in the startup config folder has alot of the crap i left in.23:15
arrrghhhwho said anything about brick?23:15
stinebdoh god what have i done23:15
arrrghhhlol23:15
GregTampaMr. Bryan said it!23:15
F22unlikely, it depends on what some of the kernel options do. if they're not coded right it's theoretically possible you could put your phone in a state from which it can't boot.23:15
GregTampaf22, bs u yank the battery and boot abck into windoze23:15
stinebd#xdandroid rule #1: don't listen to stinebd23:15
GregTampathis dont modify the hardware / bios whatever it is23:16
F22GregTampa: i'm not going to vouch for -every- available option. only the ones we use on the rhodium.23:16
* GregTampa looks in FAQ's for rule#123:16
arrrghhhlol23:16
F22GregTampa: Notice, I said "theoretically".23:16
GregTampaI need to submit that in the FAQ's23:16
GregTampaok last time i tried driod i didnt get any screens and that launcher pro expired crap23:17
GregTampaso i havnt been able to configure the data settings yet.. that looks tricky to me..since i never used driod except on my gf's phone to play angry birds23:17
* GregTampa covers his eyes23:18
GregTampau forgot the rel_path=andboot :)23:18
stinebdandboot is default23:19
stinebdso not strictly required on cmdline23:19
GregTampafigures23:19
arrrghhhlol23:20
GregTampalike ext2 :)23:20
GregTampaok so im assuming i cant use internet sharing when i boot into driod?23:20
GregTampadroid*23:20
stinebdnot with wep23:20
GregTampawith usb23:20
stinebdno23:21
GregTampateather23:21
stinebdyou should be able to use wifi tethering though23:21
F22GregTampa: I consider the possibility of an obscure kernel option bricking your phone to be slightly more probable then being hit by a meteor. But I do know that devs had screwed up their phones accidentally in the past, and there are so many legacy startup options still around that i don't think anyone knows what they all do, or would do if used on a handset for which they weren't originally intended.23:21
GregTampaok23:21
GregTampaF22, I have phone insurance dont matter...im covered.. ill just smash the phone on the ground and get a new one free :)23:22
stinebd(after deductible)23:22
GregTampano deductible23:23
F22lol23:23
GregTampaphone still under warrentty as long as i continue to break it before that goes up, then get a new one with a new warrenty and repeat as needed23:24
GregTampaanywho wish me luck im go outside and boot into android and see if it works, ill log back in and let u know all my questions :)23:25
GregTampaoutside to smoke! hell ya23:25
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tonhi everyone23:38
tonanybody here?23:39
arrrghhhhowdy23:39
tonhi23:39
tonneed help on this xandroid23:39
arrrghhhwhat's wrong23:39
tondoes this work with htc touch elfin?23:39
arrrghhhelfin?23:40
arrrghhhno clue what that is...23:40
arrrghhhsounds ancient.23:40
tonits an old device i have it inside my closet23:40
ton so i decided to use it with android23:41
arrrghhhlmao23:41
tonit almost looks like the touch 3g23:41
arrrghhhi found this toaster, can i put linux on it?23:41
arrrghhhwhat processor23:41
tonomap 85023:41
arrrghhhhah, doubt it.23:42
toni saw at xda and they are using haret23:42
arrrghhhwell maybe then.23:42
arrrghhhtalk to them, we wouldn't support it with XDAndroid.23:42
arrrghhhMSM's here.23:42
arrrghhhmsm 7200 mostly23:42
tonhow about touch 3g jade23:42
tonits a msm720023:43
arrrghhhhave no clue what that is either23:43
arrrghhhbut we don't support it23:43
tonic23:43
arrrghhhis that the vogue?23:43
arrrghhhdude if that's the vogue, it's got probably the best android support for a winmo phone ever, short of the hd2.23:43
tonthe vogue almost looks like the touch elfin23:43
arrrghhh... looks don't matter.23:44
tonbut has a different rom and processor23:44
arrrghhhwhere's my ancient phone expert23:44
arrrghhhstinebd, wake up23:44
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GregTampaim back!23:44
tonhi sir23:44
GregTampaworks great, just cant figure out how to "close" apps, in particular the browser..23:45
arrrghhhGregTampa, need to map a home key.23:45
GregTampaalso dont say t-mobile it has  Voicestream wire.23:45
arrrghhheasiest way is thru spare parts.23:45
toni would really like to make xdandroid work on the touch elfin23:45
arrrghhh"End Key Behavior" - > go to home.23:45
arrrghhhton, have fun23:45
tonthanks23:46
GregTampayeah it looks like my end key, and my power key do the same thing23:46
hycGregTampa: re: Voicestream Wire - yeah, that's the name the cell tower broadcasts. On the HTC ril libraries, it gets remapped to "T-Mobile"23:47
tonthanks23:47
tonhow about the htc touch jade23:47
hycbut our libhtcgeneric-ril.so doesn't have those mappings23:47
GregTampaah gotcha cause t mobile uses everyone elses crap i forgot.23:47
GregTampahome key worked great, should be defaulted :(23:47
tonis xdandroid works there?23:47
GregTampaton http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Supported_Devices23:48
tonok thanks23:48
hycyep, T-Mobile is a leech :P23:48
tonone last question23:48
GregTampaarn't we all though :)23:48
toni have a touch pro 2 but suddenly it doesn't get any signal fromany network23:49
tondo you know a fix for this?23:49
GregTampawhich carriar?23:49
arrrghhhton, in winmo?23:50
GregTampayeah i got a fix one sec.23:50
tonim currently inthe philippines23:50
GregTampayou need to reinstall your radio23:50
arrrghhhGregTampa, unsolicited pm...?23:50
GregTampaopps arrrghhh23:50
GregTampawrong button :)23:50
tonwill it still work in the philippines?23:51
arrrghhhwhat do you mean dev mailing list?23:51
arrrghhhGregTampa, there is a mailing list for developers23:51
arrrghhhbut your question doesn't seem related to that, i butchered it.23:51
tonarrrghhh and gregtampa thanks for the help23:52
arrrghhhnp23:53
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GregTampaton: um, yeah u gotta google a radio for that place, idk what there towers use.23:53
GregTampaarrrrghhh23:53
* GregTampa sounds like a pirate23:53
GregTampaa butt pirate!! bahaha read that lurkers!23:54
GregTampaheh mail.google.com :_) expected something else, not really....23:54
GregTampanow to figure out how to import contact and im all set i guess.23:55
GregTampadarn i need a gmail email account for that way... next way....23:56

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