| the_decoy | I mean the button litterally has a House picture on it, lol | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| F22 | not on mine. | 00:00 |
| the_decoy | oh, lol | 00:00 |
| the_decoy | damn many flavours of RHODS | 00:00 |
| F22 | on mine the 2nd button has a house pc on it. on most rhodiums, none of the buttons have a house pic on them, that's why it's not one of the default buttons in our layout. | 00:00 |
| the_decoy | sorry, *flavor :P | 00:00 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 00:01 |
| arrrghhh | i just noticed the rootfs reef includes in that same bundle is from 9/17. | 00:01 |
| F22 | old | 00:01 |
| the_decoy | Yeah I already swaped that out based on what I saw on the main page at xdandroid.com | 00:01 |
| arrrghhh | good | 00:02 |
| the_decoy | my fail for not checking that "Download" link too | 00:02 |
| the_decoy | otherwise I would have found the system.ext2 link | 00:02 |
| arrrghhh | np | 00:02 |
| arrrghhh | i'm getting reef a new build | 00:02 |
| the_decoy | Instead I was busy reading t he bugzilla and shit | 00:02 |
| the_decoy | BTW, love the guy who flamed you for complaining about your own project for camera | 00:03 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 00:03 |
| arrrghhh | yea that was classic. | 00:03 |
| the_decoy | Anything else you want me to check in this "not-quite" system image before I reboot it to put FRX03 on there? | 00:04 |
| arrrghhh | nah | 00:04 |
| the_decoy | cool | 00:04 |
| the_decoy | oh lame ... just realised the office xmas party starts in 30min :( | 00:08 |
| the_decoy | It's hot as balls out there today :{ | 00:08 |
| arrrghhh | you crazy southern hemisphere people. | 00:08 |
| arrrghhh | experiencing opposing weather | 00:08 |
| arrrghhh | you're having the christmas party on a thursday? | 00:08 |
| arrrghhh | er, it's probably friday there huh. | 00:08 |
| the_decoy | yeah, not likely to be a big beerfest or anything | 00:09 |
| arrrghhh | well | 00:09 |
| the_decoy | I work for the University Library so a large population of them are older librarians | 00:09 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 00:09 |
| arrrghhh | our holiday party this year is going to be nutso | 00:10 |
| the_decoy | F22: any recommendation on which libGLES_qcom module to mount? | 00:20 |
| arrrghhh | the newest | 00:20 |
| arrrghhh | the gralloc changes are the fun ones. | 00:21 |
| arrrghhh | but i didn't notice any difference really | 00:21 |
| the_decoy | ok thx, I haven't had time to read that whole thread but I was skimming it with xdapp on my lunch break | 00:21 |
| F22 | either the newest or the one before that. | 00:21 |
| arrrghhh | same neocore scores | 00:21 |
| arrrghhh | same FPS2D scores | 00:21 |
| the_decoy | ok, cheers | 00:21 |
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| F22 | the one just before the newest gave me my highest neopeek scores, but the difference was very small, only 0.2. | 00:22 |
| F22 | i've read that the newest is more stable with live wallpapers. | 00:23 |
| F22 | they're all equally slow on the full version of angry birds. :P | 00:23 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:23 |
| the_decoy | Try 1.3 Full version of AB | 00:23 |
| the_decoy | Someone posted it on that xda thread for the "modded" version | 00:23 |
| F22 | 1.3 is supposed to run better than 1.4, haven't tried it though. | 00:24 |
| the_decoy | I found it much better than latest AB lite | 00:24 |
| F22 | haven't tried lite either. | 00:24 |
| arrrghhh | so you do only use android to play angry birds. | 00:24 |
| arrrghhh | i still don't get why that game is so popular. | 00:24 |
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| the_decoy | lol, nah but I was at least curious since thats all I hear in the break room every day | 00:24 |
| F22 | lol | 00:24 |
| arrrghhh | ha | 00:25 |
| the_decoy | and now it is just a way to stress test the kernel/build/whaetever | 00:25 |
| arrrghhh | i don't ever hear people talking about that game IRL | 00:25 |
| arrrghhh | stress test LOL | 00:25 |
| arrrghhh | please. | 00:25 |
| arrrghhh | do benchmarks. neocore at least gives you a number. | 00:25 |
| the_decoy | I work in a group of sys admins | 00:25 |
| arrrghhh | so do i | 00:25 |
| arrrghhh | they talk about cyanogenmod | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | and hacking their android phones | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | we have some wp7 fanboys | 00:26 |
| the_decoy | I am surrounded by iphoners | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | bb fanboys too | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | there's like 2 iphone guys | 00:26 |
| the_decoy | I was the lone WM fanboy until now | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | and they're not very techy lol | 00:26 |
| the_decoy | which was very funny to them as I am the linux admin here | 00:26 |
| arrrghhh | yea that does seem odd haha | 00:27 |
| arrrghhh | but, until android winmo was the most hackable/extensible os out there. | 00:27 |
| the_decoy | Well I kept saying," as soon as I can chef for linux instead .." | 00:27 |
| arrrghhh | even with how "closed" it was, people figured out how to do anything with it. | 00:27 |
| the_decoy | so here I am | 00:27 |
| F22 | i don't care how revolutionary the press considers wp7's look, i think it looks boring. | 00:27 |
| arrrghhh | +1 | 00:27 |
| arrrghhh | i don't really care about twitter updates on my home screen. | 00:27 |
| the_decoy | +10000 | 00:27 |
| F22 | me neither | 00:28 |
| arrrghhh | it looks like they're trying to kill the iphone 3 years ago. | 00:28 |
| the_decoy | I even went and had a play on a Mozart just to be sure and it is total fail | 00:28 |
| arrrghhh | as usual, a little late microsoft. | 00:28 |
| the_decoy | even tho they made teh WP7 interface fast it actually chugs really bad on loading anything | 00:28 |
| arrrghhh | really? | 00:28 |
| arrrghhh | engadget freakin loved the sets, which surprised me. | 00:29 |
| the_decoy | yeah it was really weird | 00:29 |
| arrrghhh | ah well, i think i actually need to sleep now. | 00:29 |
| arrrghhh | cya guys | 00:29 |
| the_decoy | cool, thanks mate | 00:29 |
| the_decoy | cya | 00:29 |
| F22 | microsoft is almost always late, but they make up for it by gobs of money at their products while simultaneously leveraging an existing monopoly to create a new one. | 00:29 |
| arrrghhh | F22, it's what they're best at. | 00:30 |
| arrrghhh | oh, and stealing other people's/companies ideas. | 00:30 |
| the_decoy | Steve Balmer 101 | 00:30 |
| arrrghhh | anyhoo, cya guys :D | 00:30 |
| F22 | it doesn't matter if their new product isn't the best, if they roll it into office, and everyone has office, nobody will by the competitor's. | 00:30 |
| F22 | by=buy | 00:30 |
| F22 | g'nite arrrghhh | 00:30 |
| F22 | it's kind of hard to undercut free though. | 00:31 |
| stinebd | [23:48:01] <the_decoy> full_msm-eng 2.2.1 MASTER eng.mjg.20101010.204523 test-keys | 00:31 |
| stinebd | that is before FRX03 | 00:31 |
| stinebd | 20101010 is the build date | 00:31 |
| TheDeadCPU | wat | 00:31 |
| stinebd | FRX03 was november 19ish | 00:32 |
| the_decoy | Sorry dude, it was just what I got from http://reefermattness.scepterr.info/XDAndroid2.2Froyo.112210.rar | 00:32 |
| stinebd | incidentally we don't support those builds | 00:32 |
| the_decoy | lol, is ok I am sticking with xdandroid.com now | 00:33 |
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| Naad | Hey whoever is reading! | 09:26 |
| Naad | Is it just me, or can everybody turn their phone off when it's locked.. the phone menu pops up when the powerbutton is pressed and the phone is locked... | 09:27 |
| Naad | kind of ruins the function of locking your screen (same as pressing menu button unlocks the phone) | 09:27 |
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| bodi0 | hello | 10:27 |
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| rrew | hey emwe, i saw the log yesterday you were speaking abou our bottleneck, seems that a user on xda got 32-33 on FPS2D and 21-21.5 fps in neocore | 10:43 |
| rrew | i am not able to get those values :S | 10:44 |
| emwe | rrew: no, right. [acl] thinks it might be a "faulty" init-sequence of the novatek panel. i will try to use the "hacked" 60fps supersonic panel init code (which we know works) and see if we can get more, because currently i am getting 19fps i think with fps2d w/o OC. | 10:56 |
| emwe | but i can't promise when. busy all weekend with real life. | 10:56 |
| emwe | and i finally the donated raph100 arrived here. so i got some other thing to play with as well :) | 10:56 |
| rrew | hehe, btw a topaz user got 21 fps in neocore | 10:57 |
| emwe | with the modded libs and OC i gues... | 10:57 |
| rrew | maybe oc is the reason, btw you think that some of those init sequences that we left out could help us? | 10:58 |
| emwe | well, we are using the init sequence markinus dumped once. | 10:59 |
| emwe | so i can't tell if we leave something out acutally. | 10:59 |
| emwe | allthough what i must admit is, that i don't know exactly what the sequence values itself all mean. :/ | 11:00 |
| emwe | unfortunately i have to leave now... | 11:00 |
| emwe | and will likely not be around till sunday... | 11:00 |
| rrew | ok | 11:00 |
| rrew | cya | 11:00 |
| emwe | have fun! | 11:00 |
| emwe | got still some secs ... :) | 11:00 |
| emwe | have you experienced any unstabilities with the latest kernel? | 11:01 |
| rrew | ok then | 11:01 |
| rrew | well a lot of lags but i think its a data.img problem | 11:01 |
| rrew | btw i have setup my build env but when i want to build the kernel it returns can't cd to ..., i forgot what i did 3months back? :D | 11:03 |
| emwe | hm. hm. that would take longer to fix i guess ;) | 11:03 |
| emwe | i redid my build script a bit. | 11:04 |
| emwe | forgot to pass a param? | 11:04 |
| emwe | build-util.sh msm? | 11:04 |
| rrew | maybe | 11:05 |
| rrew | yep | 11:07 |
| rrew | that msm | 11:07 |
| rrew | was missing :P | 11:07 |
| rrew | tnx | 11:07 |
| emwe | np. | 11:07 |
| emwe | the newer script actually puts all output and kernel config to the generated directory. it doesn't pollute the kernel directory anymore | 11:08 |
| emwe | and doesn't always rebuild the whole compat-wireless and ti-wlan driver | 11:08 |
| emwe | if you haven't noticed, i queried you with the download link ;) | 11:09 |
| emwe | so, i gotta go. | 11:09 |
| emwe | have fun! | 11:09 |
| rrew | ok | 11:09 |
| rrew | ;) | 11:09 |
| rrew | you2 | 11:09 |
| emwe | thx | 11:09 |
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| SpecR | F22: do you know any sw like aircrack-ng for android? | 14:22 |
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| TouchPro2 | Hi @ all | 14:24 |
| TouchPro2 | anyone there? | 14:25 |
| TouchPro2 | :( need help | 14:27 |
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| SpecR | any news on wep cracker for android? | 17:38 |
| stinebd | this is not the place to get info about cracking your neighbor's wifi key | 17:39 |
| SpecR | why not? | 17:39 |
| SpecR | is and android question about software? | 17:40 |
| stinebd | go ask in #android then | 17:40 |
| SpecR | <o> | 17:40 |
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| SpecR | me voy a preparar un pisco sour | 18:11 |
| SpecR | ala mierda la dieta | 18:11 |
| SpecR | Oops, wrong chan | 18:13 |
| SpecR | sorry | 18:13 |
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| SpecR | arrrghhh: Sucessfully installed the bundle droid version :) | 20:12 |
| arrrghhh | sweet | 20:12 |
| SpecR | I read here someone said the bundle version needed a kernel update, now, I wonder what major improvement to the overall funtioning of the droid it includes | 20:44 |
| SpecR | or just minor changes? | 20:44 |
| SpecR | btw, can this droid be overclocked? I think the processor is a bit slow | 20:44 |
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| arrrghhh | SpecR, sorry i didn't respond earlier. you can certainly overclock, but just be prepared for issues... i've noticed oc'ing is a strange beast. | 22:42 |
| arrrghhh | also, i'm not sure what you mean about a needed kernel update. | 22:42 |
| arrrghhh | there was a *needed* update for the rhod100 | 22:43 |
| stinebd | http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/10/nexus-s-review/ | 22:43 |
| arrrghhh | Unlike the failed experiment of the Nexus One | 22:43 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't think the N1 failed... | 22:43 |
| arrrghhh | no microSD slot? | 22:47 |
| arrrghhh | odd. | 22:47 |
| F22 | i wouldn't call the N1 a failure either, the press did, but the press likes to make up stories to drum up interest to maintain ad revenues. the point never was to compete against their partners, it was to push the technology envelope so the manufacturers would stop using the same old tired tech. the lack of a microSD slot struck me as odd on the NS too, that google would sign off on that since they pretty much designed the handset, especial | 22:56 |
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| F22 | the lack of hspa+ on a device bound for t-mobile's network is also a disappointment. | 22:59 |
| F22 | interesting, despite the success of the GS, HTC is still managing to outsell Samsung on Verizon. Given that HTC is only selling one phone on verizon currently, the Droid Incredible, whose hardware is outmatched, it definitely sounds like a vote for HTC's SENSE over Samsung's Touch Wiz. | 23:12 |
| F22 | i suppose it could also be a vote for the name DROID and google search. :P | 23:14 |
| arrrghhh | yea i don't get the lack of hspa+ | 23:23 |
| arrrghhh | just seems like another odd oversight. | 23:23 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 23:23 |
| arrrghhh | yea, verizon has branded all android devices as "droids" | 23:24 |
| F22 | not all | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | so now non-moto devices are even called moto. | 23:24 |
| F22 | Samsung's S isn't a DROID. | 23:24 |
| F22 | neither are the lower end devices like the lg ally or the moto devour. | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | yea but consumers don't know that | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | they're all DROIDs | 23:24 |
| F22 | they don't have DROID in their name. | 23:25 |
| F22 | there have been 5 DROID's to date. | 23:25 |
| F22 | the rest of the android handsets haven't been called DROIDs. | 23:25 |
| arrrghhh | but i constantly hear people calling android devices that aren't droids, droid. | 23:26 |
| F22 | Moto has had the DROID, the DROID 2, and DROID X. HTC has had the DROID Eris and the DROID Incredible. | 23:26 |
| arrrghhh | it's almost become standard slang | 23:26 |
| F22 | yes, but people walking into a verizon store looking for a DROID may hesitate to buy an android phone that doesn't have DROID in its name. | 23:26 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | thinking it's not the DROID they're looking for | 23:27 |
| F22 | lol | 23:27 |
| F22 | yup | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | bah, sorry. watching robot chicken star wars specials :P | 23:27 |
| F22 | well i can just seem them scratching their heads why it didn't get the name. | 23:27 |
| F22 | seem=see | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 23:28 |
| arrrghhh | to me it's a silly misnomer | 23:28 |
| arrrghhh | but verizon wants to associate themselves are the DROID provider | 23:28 |
| arrrghhh | which makes sense to me, but pisses me off nonetheless ;) | 23:28 |
| F22 | it's kind of interesting to me that the droid incredible is outselling the galaxy s though. | 23:29 |
| F22 | i forget verizon's name for their s model... | 23:29 |
| arrrghhh | captivate | 23:29 |
| F22 | i remember the other 3, but i always forget verizon's. :P | 23:29 |
| F22 | capitvate is at&t. | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | d'oh | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | too many names for the same damned device :P | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | which is why i like using the non-production name. | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | rhodium ftw :D | 23:30 |
| F22 | yes | 23:30 |
| F22 | of course everyone except at&t was happy to call it a tp2. | 23:31 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 23:31 |
| F22 | at&t had to call it the tilt2. | 23:31 |
| arrrghhh | bastages | 23:31 |
| arrrghhh | and put a ptt key on it :P | 23:31 |
| F22 | i wish they all had a ptt key... | 23:31 |
| F22 | we could use another button... | 23:31 |
| arrrghhh | seriously. | 23:31 |
| arrrghhh | i miss my mogul for that reaon | 23:31 |
| arrrghhh | reason | 23:31 |
| arrrghhh | buttons galore | 23:31 |
| F22 | of the GS's, Sprint's is my favorite. 4 inch screen with a kbd, what's not to love... | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | epic | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 23:33 |
| F22 | yup | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | good name too :P | 23:33 |
| F22 | and wimax too if i recall correctly. | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | evo and epic are only 4g phones afaik | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | (on sprint) | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | "4g" | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:34 |
| F22 | verizon is waiting til 2011. | 23:34 |
| F22 | not sure when at&t will get into the action, they're in an interesting predicament. | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | they've gotta got lte | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | go* | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | gotta got. give me another beer. | 23:34 |
| F22 | yes, but they're way behind verizon in their rollout. | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | i love how verizon is ahead | 23:35 |
| arrrghhh | but behind... | 23:35 |
| arrrghhh | sprint just needed to get something out there | 23:35 |
| F22 | lol. yes, sprint was first. but sprint is doing wimax. | 23:35 |
| arrrghhh | the evo was a great 'something' | 23:35 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 23:35 |
| F22 | verizon and at&t are doing lte. | 23:35 |
| arrrghhh | oh i see what you're saying, vz is ahead on lte. | 23:35 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 23:35 |
| F22 | t-mo is rolling out hspa+ at a breakneck pace which in the short term at least will put them ahead in some ways. not sure how well they'll be able to scale up compared to the others. | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | just seems like a messy hack | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | leave it to tmo... | 23:37 |
| F22 | well they have later gen equipment then at&t so it's easier for them to scale up their stuff. | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder if sprint is screwed with wimax | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | i hear they're eyeballing lte | 23:38 |
| arrrghhh | long-term | 23:38 |
| F22 | i've heard the same. | 23:38 |
| F22 | and their provider is deep in red ink. | 23:38 |
| arrrghhh | between clearwire or whatever that company is | 23:38 |
| arrrghhh | and no one else is using it | 23:38 |
| F22 | there is talk of t-mo buying in. | 23:38 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 23:38 |
| arrrghhh | maybe good news for both providers, y'know? | 23:39 |
| arrrghhh | or bad for both, either way. | 23:39 |
| F22 | but i get the sense that t-mo would prefer lte. yet they also like the idea of using the same tech as sprint in case their parent company decides to buy sprint some day. | 23:39 |
| arrrghhh | lo | 23:39 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:39 |
| arrrghhh | and now sprint is giving the finger to all nextel customers | 23:40 |
| arrrghhh | in 2012 | 23:40 |
| F22 | t-mo also needs more bandwidth, and clearwire has more bandwidth than it knows what to do with. | 23:40 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 23:40 |
| F22 | yep, sprint is going to lose a lot of government and business customers once they put the fork in nextel. that merger was a mistake. | 23:40 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder how sprint is going to build up a low-latency ptt network like iden. | 23:41 |
| arrrghhh | yea. seems like they're going to fail. | 23:41 |
| arrrghhh | i had high hopes that they would actually figure out a way. | 23:41 |
| arrrghhh | when they originally merged lol | 23:42 |
| F22 | best of all worlds would be t-mo customer support with sprint's network on lte. i'm seriously hoping the us will become more like europe where we'll be able to use our handsets with all the carriers. | 23:43 |
| arrrghhh | ha | 23:43 |
| arrrghhh | keep dreamin :P | 23:43 |
| F22 | i know...even if they all do lte, there will still be antenna issues... | 23:43 |
| F22 | need an antenna cut for each freq. | 23:45 |
| F22 | there's quad band gsm however....so...hopefully we'll get quad or quin band lte at some point. :D | 23:45 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 23:46 |
| arrrghhh | i'm worried it'll all be locked down like cdma | 23:47 |
| arrrghhh | no sim's. | 23:47 |
| F22 | ugggh | 23:47 |
| F22 | i hope not | 23:47 |
| F22 | engadget is recommending the droid incredible as verizon's best phone for christmas, and they're surprised that they are. | 23:55 |
| F22 | lol | 23:55 |
| F22 | Amazed that a phone launched way back in April is still on top of the game in December? Us too, us too | 23:55 |
| F22 | :P | 23:55 |
| arrrghhh | good ole engadget | 23:56 |
| arrrghhh | i love watching those shows they put on once a month or whatever. | 23:56 |
| F22 | evo wins for sprint, epic gets the nod for best handset with a kbd. | 23:58 |
| arrrghhh | ha | 23:58 |
| arrrghhh | yea the screen on the epic is meh | 23:58 |
| arrrghhh | same with build quality :P | 23:58 |
| arrrghhh | where is my tp3. | 23:58 |
| arrrghhh | i want to see that 2011. dual-core. android. madness. | 23:59 |
| F22 | yep, i hear the GS's are very plastic'y. | 23:59 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 23:59 |
| arrrghhh | you read/saw the NS review right? | 23:59 |
| F22 | G2 takes top honors at T-mo. | 23:59 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd just posted a linky to it. | 23:59 |
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