| F22 | yup, read it earlier. | 00:00 |
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| arrrghhh | naturally haha | 00:00 |
| F22 | *snicker* for best slate at tmo, they're saying way for the new Nexus. | 00:00 |
| F22 | way=wait | 00:00 |
| F22 | bah, engadget still declares the iphone 4 as the grand champion. | 00:05 |
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| arrrghhh | bah indeed | 00:21 |
| arrrghhh | it is smooth... but that's about it. | 00:22 |
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| F22 | rogueagent: yes? | 09:59 |
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| SpecR | hey guys | 12:11 |
| SpecR | is it recommended to overclock the droid? | 12:11 |
| SpecR | I feel it a bit slow | 12:12 |
| TheDeadCPU | do it | 12:12 |
| TheDeadCPU | Set it to over9000 mhz | 12:12 |
| SpecR | O_O | 12:13 |
| TheDeadCPU | :D | 12:13 |
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| F22 | Overclocking can actually make your handset even slower if you push it too far, or at least that's what i found. Basically the rhodium is overclockable in 19.2 MHz increments up from the stock speed of 528. Just about everyone can do 600, but not everyone can hit 700 or even 650 without increased instability. | 12:23 |
| SpecR | F22: are there any freq recommendable to try on the RAPH800? | 12:24 |
| F22 | raph recommendations tend to be a little lower than rhodium recs. most of the raph recs are in the 600-650 range. i don't know anyone doing 700 on a raph. i don't know what the clock increments on the raph are off-hand. | 12:26 |
| SpecR | ok | 12:27 |
| F22 | personally i think too many new users go overboard on overclocking with the rhod, jumping immediately to 768MHz, and then they have major stability issues. | 12:28 |
| F22 | thankfully the raph documentation is a bit more conservative. | 12:29 |
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| F22 | i run my rhod at 614,400. If i push it higher it gets less reliable. | 12:31 |
| SpecR | was it trial & error? | 12:32 |
| F22 | yep | 12:32 |
| F22 | i took mine up slowly. | 12:32 |
| SpecR | im searching the rom file where it came with a overclocking option | 12:32 |
| F22 | established a feel for the baseline stability at normal clock speed, and then slowly pushed it up. | 12:33 |
| SpecR | understood | 12:34 |
| F22 | i may push it up one notch again. i actually had it running fairly well at 633, but then I modified some things and it started behaving oddly and so I backed it down a notch which seemed to improve things. But it might have just been a coincidence. so it needs further testing. | 12:34 |
| SpecR | bleh, my bw doestn allow to download android sdk and search my work computer via rdp over vpn | 12:36 |
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| F22 | babijoee, the maintainer of the raph/diam faq overclocks his to 600. | 12:44 |
| F22 | er i should say that he's the maintainer of the raph/diam xdandroid thread. | 12:45 |
| F22 | the first few posts of that thread are pretty informative, but i assume you've read through that already. | 12:46 |
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| TheDeadCPU | Oh look. It's an arrrghhh | 13:14 |
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| TheDeadCPU | arrrghhh | 16:35 |
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| stinebd | hmm, one cr48 shipped to my town of 10,000 people | 18:21 |
| stinebd | i likes my odds | 18:21 |
| stinebd | i'm going to help google determine the ebay resellability of their notebook | 18:22 |
| stinebd | by painting it white and putting an apple logo on it | 18:22 |
| arrrghhh | awesome dude | 18:22 |
| TheDeadSLEEP | lol | 18:22 |
| arrrghhh | that'll... work | 18:23 |
| stinebd | can't do worse than the p-p-p-powerbook | 18:23 |
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| TheDeadSLEEP | Sell it is against the contract for getting it lol | 18:23 |
| TheDeadSLEEP | Selling* | 18:23 |
| stinebd | what are they gonna do, fire me? | 18:23 |
| TheDeadSLEEP | No, sue you for not complying to the contract | 18:24 |
| TheDeadSLEEP | Though. I doubt google will do that lol | 18:24 |
| TheDeadSLEEP | They're not apple | 18:24 |
| stinebd | i doubt they could | 18:24 |
| stinebd | if anything they'd hit the kill switch | 18:24 |
| stinebd | which is even funnier | 18:24 |
| TheDeadSLEEP | That'd be awesome | 18:25 |
| arrrghhh | making the purchasor of said product furious. | 18:25 |
| stinebd | at which point they'd sue me | 18:25 |
| TheDeadSLEEP | then you'd say hey, I said it was risks | 18:25 |
| stinebd | but at least it's just small claims court | 18:25 |
| stinebd | maybe i could go on judge judy | 18:26 |
| TheDeadSLEEP | lol | 18:26 |
| stinebd | i mean on the show, not physically on her | 18:26 |
| arrrghhh | hey, maybe both | 18:27 |
| stinebd | nah, then the bailiff would want in and i don't do the sausagefest | 18:27 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:27 |
| TheDeadSLEEP | lol | 18:28 |
| stinebd | JesusFreak316: pssst, twitter's arbitrary message length limit precluded this indentation of knowledge upon your skull: golden sun dark dawn does away with the old games' passive attack strategy (defending if the original target is dead) | 18:49 |
| JesusFreak316 | Ohh, what does it do? | 18:49 |
| JesusFreak316 | Auto attack another enemy? | 18:49 |
| stinebd | yeah | 18:49 |
| stinebd | and all allies targeted to the original dead enemy will all target the same new enemy | 18:50 |
| stinebd | also they added a crapton of points of no return, so if you play it make sure you go through every area for all djinni/items | 18:50 |
| JesusFreak316 | MUCH better. I never defended usually. :) | 18:50 |
| stinebd | i counted at least 4 such points | 18:50 |
| F22 | arrrghhh: have you tried the new kernel yet? | 18:51 |
| JesusFreak316 | I'm pretty good at being an anal explorer. | 18:51 |
| stinebd | uh | 18:51 |
| JesusFreak316 | Wait, that sounds REALLY bad. | 18:51 |
| stinebd | that's going on the bugzilla random quote thing | 18:51 |
| JesusFreak316 | You do that. | 18:51 |
| JesusFreak316 | lol | 18:51 |
| arrrghhh | F22, let me see... | 18:52 |
| arrrghhh | 20101204_010857? oh yea. | 18:52 |
| F22 | emwe committed a patch for top/rhod earlier. | 18:52 |
| F22 | no, today | 18:52 |
| arrrghhh | aw is glemsom's site not getting updates now | 18:52 |
| arrrghhh | xdandroid has the same thing | 18:53 |
| arrrghhh | from zimages.googlecode.com... | 18:53 |
| arrrghhh | where are you getting this madness | 18:53 |
| F22 | i build my kernels directly from the git. | 18:53 |
| arrrghhh | oic | 18:53 |
| arrrghhh | autobuild hasn't picked up his commit yet? | 18:54 |
| F22 | checking autobuild site... | 18:54 |
| F22 | nope | 18:55 |
| F22 | yours is the latest there. | 18:55 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 18:55 |
| arrrghhh | i have a build environment for building system images | 18:55 |
| arrrghhh | i was setup to build kernels | 18:55 |
| arrrghhh | haven't whipped one of those up in a while tho | 18:56 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 18:56 |
| arrrghhh | did he commit that gralloc stuff | 18:56 |
| arrrghhh | just for rhod/topa | 18:56 |
| stinebd | gralloc isn't kernel | 18:56 |
| F22 | no, it's a 2 line edit of the novatec panel code. | 18:56 |
| F22 | got rid of an mdelay | 18:56 |
| arrrghhh | huh | 18:56 |
| arrrghhh | oh yea that's right | 18:56 |
| arrrghhh | those were rootfs or system changes | 18:57 |
| F22 | mddi: novatek: improve topa+rhod 2D performance Applied a fix from toastcfh's 2.6.32 supersonic code. topa w/o OC: ApiDemos/openGL/Sprite Text: 53ms/frame => 35ms/frame FPS2d: 19fps => 29fps @[acl] How's the .35 fb with this? Even more smoother then a "babys ass"? Btw, the recent rhod-nand's novatek init sequence works on topa as well. | 18:57 |
| F22 | that was emwe's commit message. :P | 18:57 |
| arrrghhh | nice. | 18:57 |
| stinebd | no such delay in raph/diam callback handling | 18:57 |
| arrrghhh | F22, so what's the word? | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | is it as good as he says? | 18:58 |
| stinebd | no | 18:58 |
| stinebd | raph stil goes same speed :P | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | 29fps would be on par i would think with what we "should' be getting... no? | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha who cares about raph | 18:59 |
| arrrghhh | leave that thing in the dust. | 18:59 |
| F22 | raph was getting over 30 fps anyway if i recall correctly. | 18:59 |
| arrrghhh | was it? | 18:59 |
| stinebd | you do if you like getting system image updates | 18:59 |
| F22 | for 2d | 18:59 |
| F22 | this isn't 3d. | 18:59 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, how's gingerbread? | 18:59 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:59 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: buggy | 18:59 |
| arrrghhh | F22, i don't know what raph gets. | 18:59 |
| stinebd | i have to fix it | 18:59 |
| F22 | well maybe stinebd will get that donor rhod since camro appears to have disappeared. ;) | 19:00 |
| stinebd | i'm very busy though | 19:00 |
| stinebd | what with the holidays and the video games | 19:00 |
| F22 | priorities...lol | 19:00 |
| stinebd | well just the one game and that's over already | 19:00 |
| stinebd | 22 hours well spent | 19:00 |
| arrrghhh | yea camro did kinda just fall out there | 19:01 |
| arrrghhh | poor guy. | 19:01 |
| stinebd | not surprising | 19:01 |
| arrrghhh | did some good work on the battery code, just pushed a little too far. | 19:01 |
| stinebd | there's no winning a war against the battery drive | 19:02 |
| stinebd | r | 19:02 |
| stinebd | can't even type its name right half the time | 19:02 |
| arrrghhh | it is a bitch | 19:02 |
| arrrghhh | he made some great improvements to it tho | 19:02 |
| F22 | that and usb. | 19:03 |
| arrrghhh | oh i thought that was mostly acl | 19:03 |
| arrrghhh | i dunno, either way that dude did good work :P | 19:03 |
| arrrghhh | damn shame he wozzered his phone. | 19:03 |
| arrrghhh | speaking of, acl keeps sayin wozzer is planning on returning to the scene to continue his nand work... that'll be awesome if so. | 19:04 |
| F22 | oh yea, fps3d is much faster. | 19:04 |
| arrrghhh | 2d? | 19:04 |
| F22 | er 2d | 19:04 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:04 |
| arrrghhh | what's it at? | 19:04 |
| arrrghhh | avg | 19:04 |
| F22 | waiting for it to finish... | 19:04 |
| F22 | hmmm....that's odd. lower than i expected, but the std dev has quintipled. | 19:05 |
| F22 | i went from an avg of 20 to an avg of 24. but the std dev went from 2.1 to 14.85 | 19:05 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 19:05 |
| stinebd | that's a highly deviant display | 19:05 |
| stinebd | perhaps untrustworthy results | 19:06 |
| F22 | yes, wasn't that deviant before the "fix". let me try running it again. | 19:06 |
| stinebd | judging by the change, it's most likely a third party influence | 19:07 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:07 |
| stinebd | probably got system_server humping the cpu | 19:07 |
| arrrghhh | app syncing | 19:07 |
| arrrghhh | or system_server doing its business. | 19:07 |
| arrrghhh | that process is a bitch | 19:07 |
| F22 | bah, same deal. | 19:08 |
| F22 | let me see what logcat says | 19:08 |
| arrrghhh | are you syncing your gmail | 19:08 |
| arrrghhh | and watching porn in the browser | 19:08 |
| stinebd | hmm | 19:08 |
| stinebd | i am | 19:08 |
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| stinebd | sorry but the porn has to stay open | 19:09 |
| arrrghhh | i understand | 19:09 |
| F22 | several really low outliers pulling down the results. the mode is 50 fps. 250 out of 1000 runs hit 50fps. | 19:12 |
| F22 | 50fps was also the highest. | 19:12 |
| F22 | so 1/4 of the runs hit the max of 50fps, if i'm reading the logcat correctly. | 19:13 |
| stinebd | judging by my B in statistics in college, i'd say that means it's on anabolic steroids | 19:13 |
| F22 | i'll pastebin it | 19:13 |
| stinebd | ascii pie chart form only please | 19:13 |
| F22 | lol | 19:15 |
| F22 | Activity Manager/WindowManager/SurfaceFlinger complaints in there too. | 19:16 |
| stinebd | ? | 19:16 |
| F22 | timeouts | 19:16 |
| stinebd | i've never used this program | 19:16 |
| stinebd | i'd love to see the output | 19:16 |
| F22 | http://pastebin.com/rTsPLZAs | 19:16 |
| F22 | ran the program twice | 19:16 |
| stinebd | thanks | 19:16 |
| stinebd | and what was the average before? | 19:17 |
| F22 | 20 with a std dev of 2 to 3. | 19:18 |
| stinebd | mmm | 19:18 |
| arrrghhh | cya guys, company christmas partay time :D | 19:18 |
| stinebd | enjoy | 19:18 |
| F22 | xmas is two weeks away.. | 19:18 |
| F22 | bit early isn't it? | 19:18 |
| F22 | :P | 19:18 |
| stinebd | probably a "holiday" party | 19:19 |
| stinebd | they gotta work in christmas, chanukah, kwanzaa, satan day, etc | 19:19 |
| F22 | oh, i have a logcat from last night too (before the kernel patch) that i can post if you want to compare. | 19:20 |
| F22 | lol | 19:20 |
| F22 | satan day...lol | 19:20 |
| F22 | much cleaner | 19:21 |
| F22 | except for the attempting to remove unknown iface thing. | 19:22 |
| F22 | got even more of those. but the other messages are gone. | 19:22 |
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| F22 | http://pastebin.com/fq1NPtKb | 19:24 |
| F22 | should probably have stripped out all the tethering errors for easier reading | 19:25 |
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| F22 | ran it three times last night in that logcat | 19:26 |
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| F22 | hmm...if those stats are right, then i don't think the app is calculating the mean correctly for the new kernel, should say 30, not 20, according to my calculator. just popped it into a spreadsheet, avg is 30.76. fps2d is wrong. looks right for the old one however. | 19:40 |
| F22 | *scratches his head in confusion. why would it compute the wrong average for the old one but wrong for the new one? are those fps stats not right themselves? | 19:41 |
| F22 | er why would it compute the -right- average for the old kernel, but the wrong average for the new one? | 19:42 |
| F22 | oh, yeah, system server at 98% cpu and 111.2 for %Mem. | 19:47 |
| F22 | stinebd: i'm going to powercycle unless there's any additional info you'd like me to pull off my handset. system_server seems to be running amok just as you guessed. | 19:50 |
| F22 | much better when system_server isn't going nuts. averages for the 3 sets were 29 30 30 with std devs 4.5, 4.19 4.15 | 20:27 |
| F22 | still got a few doing 50 fps according to logcat, but the mode is now 33 fps, with 25 as the runner up. The best however was that out of the 3000 total runs across 3 sets of 1000, only a single run was below 16 fps. the distribution was much tighter over all. | 20:30 |
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