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| randomme | anyone around? | 02:24 |
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| randomme | i have what could possibly be the dumbest question | 02:25 |
| randomme | im running 2.2 on htc diamond (500) and i cant for the life of me find out how to TURN IT OFF! | 02:26 |
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| randomme | can anyone help? | 03:34 |
| randomme | anyone in channel? | 03:42 |
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| Sad0felix | good morning | 03:46 |
| randomme | morning!! | 03:52 |
| randomme | would you be able to help me on something? | 03:52 |
| randomme | i cant turn off my phone | 03:52 |
| randomme | haha | 03:52 |
| randomme | :/ | 03:52 |
| Sad0felix | lol | 03:52 |
| randomme | i have no clue how to do this | 03:52 |
| Sad0felix | is it that simple? pull the battery :D | 03:52 |
| randomme | haha | 03:52 |
| randomme | :( | 03:52 |
| Sad0felix | seriously | 03:52 |
| randomme | shouldnt there be a button i can press? | 03:53 |
| Sad0felix | I will try ... what phone is it? | 03:53 |
| randomme | ive tried them all | 03:53 |
| Sad0felix | oh | 03:53 |
| randomme | htc diamond | 03:53 |
| Sad0felix | wait | 03:53 |
| randomme | 500 | 03:53 |
| randomme | on xdandroid 2.2 | 03:53 |
| Sad0felix | keep the normal endcall pushed for a while | 03:53 |
| randomme | i dont see a -- ok | 03:53 |
| randomme | how long? | 03:53 |
| Sad0felix | or the normal powerbutton | 03:53 |
| Sad0felix | couple secs | 03:53 |
| randomme | still pressing | 03:53 |
| randomme | nothing | 03:54 |
| Sad0felix | dunno if DIA has a separate powerbutton | 03:54 |
| Sad0felix | diam* | 03:54 |
| randomme | the power button brings up the screen | 03:54 |
| randomme | the uh, home screen? | 03:54 |
| Sad0felix | and long pressing it? | 03:54 |
| randomme | holding the power button takes me to the recent apps list | 03:55 |
| randomme | ive been trying to find the way to turn it off for maybe an hour now | 03:55 |
| randomme | yesterday i didnt have a problem | 03:56 |
| randomme | well | 03:56 |
| randomme | not with this | 03:56 |
| randomme | i feel so dumb | 03:58 |
| Sad0felix | sorry, I am in office @ work | 04:01 |
| randomme | oh ok | 04:01 |
| randomme | dont worry | 04:01 |
| Sad0felix | so long press | 04:01 |
| Sad0felix | of red button / end call button | 04:01 |
| randomme | ive done the long press on all keys | 04:01 |
| Sad0felix | ok | 04:01 |
| Sad0felix | try long pressing any button | 04:01 |
| randomme | and the click on all keys | 04:01 |
| randomme | and double clicking too | 04:02 |
| Sad0felix | ahaha, no, double click doesn't work, I guess | 04:02 |
| randomme | :/ | 04:02 |
| randomme | im trying anything i can think of | 04:02 |
| randomme | haha | 04:02 |
| Sad0felix | what rootfs do you have? | 04:03 |
| Sad0felix | I mean, release date ... | 04:03 |
| randomme | no idea | 04:03 |
| randomme | i got it yesterday | 04:03 |
| randomme | let me check | 04:04 |
| randomme | supsetup crashes though | 04:04 |
| randomme | 20100908 | 04:05 |
| randomme | build number FRF91 | 04:05 |
| randomme | agh | 04:07 |
| randomme | i think ill just remove the battery | 04:07 |
| randomme | this sucks | 04:07 |
| randomme | it was working yesterday | 04:07 |
| randomme | oh well its done | 04:08 |
| Sad0felix | on which button? | 04:08 |
| randomme | the call end i think | 04:08 |
| randomme | or the back | 04:08 |
| randomme | did i somehow unwittingly remap it? | 04:08 |
| Sad0felix | look | 04:08 |
| Sad0felix | there's 20101115 rootfs out there | 04:09 |
| Sad0felix | wait 1 sec | 04:09 |
| randomme | k | 04:09 |
| Sad0felix | what is frf91? blazn? | 04:09 |
| randomme | no idea | 04:10 |
| Sad0felix | or a neopeek one | 04:10 |
| Sad0felix | where did you get the build? | 04:10 |
| randomme | i only just heard of xdandroid 2 days ago | 04:10 |
| randomme | neopeek | 04:10 |
| Sad0felix | uh | 04:10 |
| Sad0felix | so you parted your sd, right? | 04:10 |
| randomme | agh | 04:10 |
| Sad0felix | is it SuperFroyo or else? | 04:10 |
| randomme | ok now that i rebooted | 04:10 |
| randomme | it works | 04:10 |
| randomme | superfroyo | 04:10 |
| randomme | my | 04:11 |
| randomme | goodness | 04:11 |
| randomme | what did i do to screw it up? | 04:11 |
| randomme | weird | 04:11 |
| Sad0felix | maybe nothing | 04:11 |
| randomme | thanks anyways | 04:11 |
| Sad0felix | maybe this is an emerging feature when the phone is up and running too much | 04:11 |
| Sad0felix | you should ask in Neopeeks threads | 04:11 |
| Sad0felix | better | 04:11 |
| Sad0felix | search on his threads :P | 04:11 |
| Sad0felix | btw | 04:12 |
| randomme | yeah i tried google before | 04:12 |
| randomme | but i think the problem is unheard of | 04:13 |
| randomme | ahh | 04:13 |
| randomme | i think i know what it mightve been | 04:13 |
| randomme | supsetup mightve crashed out | 04:13 |
| Sad0felix | no, not google, I mean inside his forum, inside the superfroyo thread | 04:14 |
| randomme | i tried the search on one of the forums, but i forget which one | 04:14 |
| randomme | i think it was the xdandroid one | 04:14 |
| randomme | cant remember | 04:14 |
| Sad0felix | however, Neopeek writes everywhere to get the latest builds and everything of rootfs and kernel | 04:15 |
| Sad0felix | did you do that? | 04:15 |
| Sad0felix | :P | 04:15 |
| randomme | i got it yesterday | 04:15 |
| randomme | so i figured it was the latest one | 04:15 |
| randomme | let me see if i can remember the link | 04:15 |
| Sad0felix | because he uses kernels and rootfs from xdandroid, you can go to xdandroid.com | 04:15 |
| Sad0felix | in main page, middle lower side | 04:16 |
| Sad0felix | there are links to latest | 04:16 |
| randomme | http://www.neopeek.com/en/community/groups/viewgroup/27-Neopeeks+SuperFroyoPort | 04:17 |
| randomme | i think it was this link | 04:17 |
| randomme | anyhooze | 04:19 |
| randomme | thanks so much | 04:19 |
| randomme | im going to sleep now | 04:19 |
| randomme | i appreciate your help | 04:19 |
| Sad0felix | nothing to it, mate, cya | 04:21 |
| Sad0felix | uh, that superfroyo | 04:22 |
| Sad0felix | is RC2 | 04:22 |
| Sad0felix | the old one | 04:22 |
| Sad0felix | go to the forum | 04:22 |
| Sad0felix | and get the stable!!!! | 04:22 |
| Sad0felix | or wipe the SD card and get proper xdandroid ... :P | 04:22 |
| randomme | hehe | 04:23 |
| Sad0felix | no, seriously | 04:23 |
| randomme | whats the difference between super and proper? | 04:23 |
| Sad0felix | that's why you had a rootfs that old | 04:24 |
| Sad0felix | the release you installed is a very old one | 04:24 |
| Sad0felix | lol, neopeek's builds (I have tested a couple myself) are quicker | 04:24 |
| Sad0felix | but that's because of swap, that is a very dangerous thing for sd cards | 04:25 |
| randomme | will it still run on an htc diamond? | 04:25 |
| Sad0felix | dunno ... if neopeek runs, xdandroid should too | 04:26 |
| Sad0felix | but ... | 04:26 |
| Sad0felix | letme check | 04:26 |
| Sad0felix | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711692 | 04:27 |
| Sad0felix | yep | 04:27 |
| Sad0felix | whatever you choose, download an updated one | 04:28 |
| Sad0felix | and immediately get latest kernel & rootfs | 04:28 |
| randomme | will i have to reinstall all my apps as well? | 04:29 |
| Sad0felix | get the download links from the forums, not from the blogs/pages | 04:29 |
| Sad0felix | yes | 04:29 |
| Sad0felix | you can backup them | 04:29 |
| Sad0felix | with Appsaver | 04:29 |
| Sad0felix | and backup every setting with Titanium Backup | 04:29 |
| Sad0felix | sure thing, I wouldn't stick with the release candidate you have now | 04:30 |
| randomme | ah cool | 04:32 |
| xdandroid | matyas changed the Status on bug 28 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. | 05:01 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=28 blocker, Highest, ---, developers, RESOLVED FIXED, When making a call Screen shuts down and all hardware keys don't work | 05:01 |
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| jimbob | xdandroid and htc hd mini ? | 05:08 |
| jimbob | ??? | 05:11 |
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| SpecR | hey guys, can aircrack-ng be installed on Android? and how can the Terminal Emulator be configured? (where is Control+c?) | 07:27 |
| SpecR | Ctrl+c produces c | 07:27 |
| SpecR | ^c | 07:28 |
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| SpecR | hey fellas, this version of android for HTC is equally for GSM and CSMA, I have an Sprint CDMA phone http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732362&page=1 | 09:46 |
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| arrrghhh | equally... | 09:53 |
| arrrghhh | probably not. | 09:53 |
| arrrghhh | but both gsm and cdma work. | 09:53 |
| arrrghhh | that' thread you posted is OLD tho. | 09:54 |
| SpecR | arrrghhh: have an url for a most updated version of android for htc? | 09:55 |
| arrrghhh | well | 09:55 |
| arrrghhh | you can update pieces | 09:56 |
| arrrghhh | there's many urls in that case... | 09:56 |
| arrrghhh | you know what i mean by that? | 09:56 |
| SpecR | kind of | 09:56 |
| arrrghhh | zimage/modules (kernel) | 09:56 |
| arrrghhh | rootfs | 09:56 |
| arrrghhh | system image | 09:56 |
| arrrghhh | those are the things that change most frequently. | 09:56 |
| SpecR | like replacing files... kay that I thought | 09:56 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 09:56 |
| arrrghhh | using that method you can get the most up to date version no matter what. | 09:57 |
| arrrghhh | if you depend on bundle packages, you'll probably always been slightly behind bleeding edge ;) | 09:57 |
| SpecR | the tricky part is, which of all the posts have the correct update files for the version I have installed | 09:57 |
| arrrghhh | in some cases seriously behind lol | 09:57 |
| arrrghhh | SpecR, what do you mean | 09:57 |
| arrrghhh | all builds use the same kernel | 09:57 |
| arrrghhh | assuming you're doing this on one phone... | 09:57 |
| arrrghhh | i mean if you have an hd2, they use different kernels. | 09:58 |
| SpecR | for instance Iwas trying to install on the SD a version of android posted in ppcgeeks and never managed it to work due to an rpcrouter:15 error | 09:58 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 09:58 |
| arrrghhh | ALL builds that encompass our port use the same kernel | 09:59 |
| arrrghhh | the neopeek builds don't use our rootfs or system images | 09:59 |
| SpecR | ok ok | 09:59 |
| SpecR | Ill try then | 10:00 |
| SpecR | arrrghhh: any sugestion where to begin? | 10:00 |
| arrrghhh | for what | 10:00 |
| arrrghhh | a clean build? | 10:00 |
| arrrghhh | well to my knowledge, my build is the most up to date. | 10:00 |
| SpecR | for updating my installed version | 10:00 |
| arrrghhh | not to toot my own horn or anything, i'm serious :P | 10:00 |
| arrrghhh | well what do you have | 10:01 |
| SpecR | nice nice | 10:01 |
| arrrghhh | have you updated it at all? | 10:01 |
| SpecR | never done, just installed for the 1st time android 2 days ago, and from xda url I posted lines above | 10:01 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 10:01 |
| SpecR | :) | 10:01 |
| arrrghhh | so you're running an old build | 10:01 |
| SpecR | yup | 10:01 |
| arrrghhh | http://files.xdandroid.com/XDANDROID.2.2.1.AOSP.FRX03.21.11.10.FULL_PACKAGE.zip | 10:02 |
| SpecR | aptitude update && aptitude dist-ugprade? :)) | 10:02 |
| arrrghhh | there ya go, that's my newest bundle. updated 21.11 | 10:02 |
| arrrghhh | uhm... this isn't ubuntu dude :P | 10:02 |
| SpecR | just joking | 10:02 |
| arrrghhh | i wish it was that easy. | 10:02 |
| SpecR | arrrghhh: that a full install right? | 10:03 |
| arrrghhh | ha, that would be awesome. doesn't really work so well with a project moving so quickly. | 10:03 |
| arrrghhh | yep | 10:03 |
| arrrghhh | should have everything you need even if you've never installed it before. | 10:03 |
| SpecR | I remember when I was an debian SID fanboy, updating almost daily :) | 10:03 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 10:03 |
| SpecR | great then, Ill boot into WinMo and reinstall it :) | 10:04 |
| arrrghhh | k | 10:04 |
| arrrghhh | just be sure to grab the startup.txt for your device. | 10:04 |
| arrrghhh | i should probably go thru and clean up the startups. meh. | 10:04 |
| SpecR | I hope not to get the rpcrouter:15 Waiting for SD Card error :( | 10:05 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 10:05 |
| arrrghhh | usually waiting for SD errors i tell people to format with the HP tool | 10:05 |
| arrrghhh | do a full format | 10:06 |
| arrrghhh | don't use the winmo or windows built-in utilities. | 10:06 |
| arrrghhh | (to format, that is) | 10:06 |
| SpecR | ok, if I get that, Ill format with that tool | 10:06 |
| arrrghhh | k | 10:07 |
| SpecR | though I tried with 2 other tools and none of them could access the card, I formatted if via winXP "manage Discs" (or so) | 10:07 |
| arrrghhh | http://www.eocfiles.com/bdc86eb1ed2989c30dcd1902e84939ae/bootdisks/SP27608.exe | 10:07 |
| arrrghhh | linky to hp tool | 10:07 |
| arrrghhh | so you used the built-in windows utility :P | 10:07 |
| SpecR | great great great | 10:07 |
| arrrghhh | 2 other tools? | 10:07 |
| arrrghhh | ah well, i'm going to be late. i g2g. cya. | 10:08 |
| SpecR | arrrghhh: yeah, two downloaded WinMo apps for formatting SD Cards | 10:08 |
| SpecR | later, tnx | 10:08 |
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| SpecR | damn | 11:27 |
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| Sad0felix | SpecR: what happened | 12:31 |
| SpecR | I successfully installed the latest build of android on my raphael800 :) | 12:35 |
| Sad0felix | FRX03 with latest kernel/rootfs? | 12:37 |
| Sad0felix | or else? | 12:37 |
| SpecR | this | 12:37 |
| SpecR | 10:02 < arrrghhh> http://files.xdandroid.com/XDANDROID.2.2.1.AOSP.FRX03.21.11.10.FULL_PACKAGE.zip | 12:37 |
| Sad0felix | good, the complete one | 12:40 |
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| SpecR | oh yeah! | 12:43 |
| Sad0felix_ | did you update kernel/rootfs? | 12:44 |
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| SpecR | Sad0felix: nope, just installed that pack | 12:46 |
| SpecR | Sad0felix: is there a link I can read in order to learn so? | 12:46 |
| Sad0felix | yep, http://xdandroid.com/ | 12:47 |
| Sad0felix | latest builds | 12:47 |
| Sad0felix | sorry, latest updates | 12:47 |
| Sad0felix | initrd is already up to date, check just kernel and rootfs | 12:48 |
| SpecR | ok will read, same OS is for GSM and CDMA righr? | 12:48 |
| Sad0felix | yep, same kernel. Just check the force_CDMA=[0,1] in startup.txt to what your phone is | 12:50 |
| SpecR | let see | 12:52 |
| Sad0felix | force_cdma=* | 12:52 |
| SpecR | force_cdma=1 ? | 12:52 |
| SpecR | for cero would be "not"? | 12:53 |
| Sad0felix | OT are you hispanic?! | 12:53 |
| Sad0felix | yes, 0 for GSM, 1 for CDMA | 12:53 |
| SpecR | Im from Peru (South America) | 12:54 |
| SpecR | ok, will boot into WinMo to add that parameter and reboot to the droid | 12:54 |
| SpecR | do I have to add it to set_cmdline? | 12:55 |
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| Sad0felix | yep, inside the "" wherever you like, just put a space between commands | 13:15 |
| Sad0felix | you can edit it also from Android with whatever app you like (Astro file manager has txt editor too) | 13:16 |
| Sad0felix | then you reboot | 13:16 |
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| arrrghhh | Sad0felix: you there? | 17:53 |
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| arrrghhh | anyone around that's tested the new gralloc? | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | i suck and can't seem to get it to work, it just reboots on me. | 18:58 |
| stinebd | which new one? | 18:58 |
| stinebd | i've tested virtually everything under the sun | 18:58 |
| stinebd | and several things above it | 18:58 |
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| arrrghhh | the one that acl is trying to get working on raph/diam | 19:11 |
| arrrghhh | i played with that new lib.so file | 19:11 |
| arrrghhh | but i'm trying to do the gralloc change, which is definitely more involved. | 19:11 |
| arrrghhh | i modified the rootfs, and commented out the lines in init where it bind mounts the gralloc file | 19:11 |
| arrrghhh | and added the two bind mount lines to my user.conf file, but it reboots to winmo, i think as soon as it tries to do the mount i would assume. | 19:12 |
| stinebd | well | 19:13 |
| stinebd | if you're modifying the rootfs, you might as well just replace both gralloc's and forget any init changes | 19:13 |
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| arrrghhh | so change the bind mount command? | 19:15 |
| arrrghhh | in init? | 19:15 |
| stinebd | no | 19:15 |
| stinebd | copy the testing gralloc over both existing ones in /lib/froyo/hw | 19:16 |
| arrrghhh | oh ic | 19:16 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 19:16 |
| stinebd | leave everything else the same | 19:16 |
| arrrghhh | k | 19:16 |
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| arrrghhh | so there's a bind mount command in init | 19:18 |
| arrrghhh | maybe that's my problem | 19:18 |
| arrrghhh | mount --bind /lib/froyo/hw/gralloc.msm7k_wvga.so /lib/froyo/hw/gralloc.msm7k.so | 19:19 |
| stinebd | damnit just listen to me | 19:19 |
| stinebd | i'm smart | 19:19 |
| arrrghhh | won't that overrule what i'm doing? | 19:19 |
| arrrghhh | ok. | 19:19 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:19 |
| stinebd | wait | 19:19 |
| * arrrghhh is not smart | 19:19 | |
| stinebd | no, yeah just do what i said | 19:19 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 19:19 |
| stinebd | i told you to replace both | 19:19 |
| stinebd | so it'll mount bind one over the other | 19:19 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 19:19 |
| arrrghhh | i only have one | 19:19 |
| stinebd | which doesn't really matter | 19:20 |
| arrrghhh | weird. | 19:20 |
| stinebd | why? | 19:20 |
| arrrghhh | what's the point? | 19:20 |
| stinebd | for vga users, that bind mount never happens | 19:20 |
| arrrghhh | i only have one gralloc.msm7k.so. i don't have a gralloc.msm7k_wvga.so | 19:20 |
| arrrghhh | oh ok | 19:20 |
| arrrghhh | so just replace both with the same file | 19:20 |
| stinebd | use a vanilla rootfs | 19:20 |
| arrrghhh | i got it from yer repo | 19:20 |
| stinebd | and there's no wvga version? | 19:21 |
| arrrghhh | i think this is a wvga version | 19:21 |
| arrrghhh | so it wasn't included separately. | 19:21 |
| stinebd | ... | 19:21 |
| stinebd | there's no "wvga version" of rootfs | 19:21 |
| stinebd | it's universal | 19:21 |
| stinebd | which is why there should be two versions of gralloc in /lib/froyo/hw | 19:22 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 19:22 |
| arrrghhh | just trying to figure out what i should be replacing with what | 19:22 |
| stinebd | stop trying to confuse me | 19:22 |
| arrrghhh | i'm confusing myself is the problem. | 19:22 |
| stinebd | alcohol helps with that | 19:22 |
| arrrghhh | well they're both replaced now. | 19:22 |
| arrrghhh | let's see what i get. | 19:22 |
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| arrrghhh | well it appears to actually be booting | 19:29 |
| arrrghhh | that's an improvement | 19:29 |
| stinebd | oh i forgot one thing | 19:29 |
| stinebd | there's something you need to remove from init | 19:30 |
| arrrghhh | well it booted | 19:30 |
| arrrghhh | what do i need to remove? | 19:30 |
| stinebd | this line: if "$guyrunningthis" == "arrrghhh" ; then reboot ; fi | 19:30 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 19:30 |
| arrrghhh | cuz it knows my irc handle, right? :P | 19:30 |
| stinebd | the rootfs download site is actually an elaborate operation which customizes the rootfs based on the ip pulling it | 19:31 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 19:31 |
| stinebd | like for my ip, it has this: echo 1 >/sys/enable-camera | 19:32 |
| * arrrghhh tries to forge his IP | 19:32 | |
| arrrghhh | camera WORKS | 19:32 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:32 |
| stinebd | i should do something like that for april fools | 19:37 |
| stinebd | randomly generate a bad rootfs for certain ip blocks | 19:37 |
| stinebd | really screw with people | 19:37 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 19:37 |
| arrrghhh | that'll make my job of troubleshooting all that much more impossible | 19:37 |
| arrrghhh | thanks stine :P | 19:37 |
| stinebd | i aims to please | 19:39 |
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| arrrghhh | i guess i should check the gold standard of benchmark apps too | 19:56 |
| arrrghhh | angry birds! | 19:56 |
| arrrghhh | guess i'll have to play angry birds while driving. | 20:01 |
| arrrghhh | cya later dude, thanks for the help as always :D | 20:01 |
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| stinebd | have fun | 20:02 |
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| arrrghhh | well i almost rolled my truck, but playing angry birds while driving was definitely worth it. | 20:39 |
| the_decoy | (just curious) any improvement from the new gralloc then? | 20:51 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 20:58 |
| arrrghhh | it seems neocore scores are more consistent | 20:58 |
| arrrghhh | that's about the only good thing i can say about it so far. | 20:58 |
| arrrghhh | i never really played angry birds before. | 20:58 |
| stinebd | performance should be no different | 20:58 |
| stinebd | i've played through the entire scenario portion of angry birds | 21:00 |
| stinebd | out of sheer boredom | 21:01 |
| stinebd | i've come to one conclusion from my time with the game | 21:01 |
| stinebd | it sucks the living crap out of my phone's battery | 21:01 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:01 |
| arrrghhh | i have still never really played it | 21:01 |
| arrrghhh | i just see how the video works, and it's still choppy ;P | 21:02 |
| arrrghhh | er :P | 21:02 |
| arrrghhh | i heard there's an angry birds lite, but i don't care really. | 21:02 |
| the_decoy | I assume the invisble graphic elements is a common bug to everyone running ti on RHOD* XDAndroid then? | 21:02 |
| arrrghhh | not everyone had a rhod dude.. | 21:02 |
| arrrghhh | we support many, many phones. | 21:02 |
| arrrghhh | too many. | 21:02 |
| arrrghhh | has* | 21:02 |
| arrrghhh | lol. so i'm guessing you only use android for angy birds as well the_decoy ? | 21:03 |
| the_decoy | HAHAHA | 21:03 |
| the_decoy | nah man, just started to look into XDAndroid this week | 21:03 |
| arrrghhh | i've seen some people post that "the only reason I use android is because of X app." | 21:04 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 21:04 |
| arrrghhh | welcome then. | 21:04 |
| arrrghhh | welcome to the madness | 21:04 |
| the_decoy | I used to chef for the P3600i users but have been just lurking using NRGZ roms for this year on my RHOD | 21:04 |
| arrrghhh | or to my nightmare, whichever you prefer. | 21:04 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 21:04 |
| arrrghhh | nrgz is awesome. | 21:04 |
| the_decoy | I am actually pretty keen to get into the "madness" actually | 21:04 |
| the_decoy | I have some exp with linux kernel mangling in my past due to an old career running modem banks at an ISP | 21:05 |
| arrrghhh | it's fun, but sometimes frustrating because of the bugs. i want to run it full time, but can't. | 21:05 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 21:05 |
| the_decoy | and more recently with DVB digitv card drivers, etc | 21:05 |
| arrrghhh | not sure if that experience would help or not, but any dev help this project can get, the better! | 21:06 |
| arrrghhh | seems the kernel is mostly C | 21:06 |
| arrrghhh | and that's where most of the development/issues seem to be. | 21:06 |
| arrrghhh | although stinebd seems to be the lonely soul managing the userland stuff. | 21:06 |
| the_decoy | Yeah, I never quite got into writing kernel code, just minor debugging and bug hunting | 21:07 |
| stinebd | well there is a small mom & pop shop managing most of the userland | 21:07 |
| stinebd | google or some such | 21:07 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 21:07 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, yes but i'm assuming you needed to make some tweaks for it to work in our environment? | 21:08 |
| the_decoy | One thing I wouldn't mind helping with is creating a proper keyb class for RHOD110 (I am Aussie and have that model) | 21:08 |
| stinebd | minor tweaks | 21:08 |
| arrrghhh | eh? | 21:08 |
| arrrghhh | what's wrong with your kbd map? | 21:08 |
| the_decoy | seems happy enough wit rhod100_uk but even still | 21:08 |
| arrrghhh | F22 has been furiously working on getting some things committed. | 21:09 |
| arrrghhh | there's a RHOD110? holy crap. | 21:09 |
| the_decoy | Yep, | 21:09 |
| arrrghhh | too many rhod's. | 21:09 |
| the_decoy | It has the 850 + 2100 combo for thos eus here on "NextG" networks | 21:09 |
| the_decoy | Sorry Stine, you were saying about the "userland" stuff? | 21:10 |
| arrrghhh | i'll take your word for it. | 21:10 |
| arrrghhh | just that he did little to get the userland code working on our devices. | 21:11 |
| arrrghhh | methinks he's done, atm. | 21:11 |
| arrrghhh | so what doesn't work on your keymap? | 21:11 |
| the_decoy | Actually so far it all seems ok on rhod100_uk ... although not the FN keys in shell (but I don't think that is just me) | 21:12 |
| arrrghhh | fn keys? | 21:12 |
| arrrghhh | they work for me in shell. | 21:12 |
| the_decoy | Yeah, so you can enter "/" and other important non-alpanum chars | 21:13 |
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| arrrghhh | omg you made it | 21:13 |
| Guest85884 | finaly lol | 21:13 |
| arrrghhh | yea... | 21:13 |
| Guest85884 | so im Isaak | 21:14 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 21:14 |
| * arrrghhh is arrrghhh | 21:14 | |
| arrrghhh | anyhoo, Isaak, what is your problem with getting XDAndroid working on your tilt2? | 21:14 |
| * the_decoy is not actually a decoy, thats just his nick | 21:15 | |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 21:15 |
| arrrghhh | or is he... | 21:15 |
| Guest85884 | and this is the "problemo" i install the downlad on this page for my device i follow all the steps but it freeses | 21:16 |
| Guest85884 | lol | 21:16 |
| arrrghhh | uhm ok | 21:16 |
| arrrghhh | did you follow the steps about copying the startup.txt? | 21:16 |
| Guest85884 | i install the .cab straight to my phone | 21:17 |
| Guest85884 | so no | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | did you read the thread at all? | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | or the faq? | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | or... anything? | 21:17 |
| Guest85884 | yeap it took me a day 1/2 to do it | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | i mean we're here to help... but you gotta be able to help yourself at least a little. | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | really. | 21:18 |
| Guest85884 | yea sure | 21:18 |
| arrrghhh | yea sure... | 21:18 |
| arrrghhh | ok well let's go back a step. | 21:18 |
| arrrghhh | where is it freezing | 21:18 |
| the_decoy | lol, ok Isaak, first things first ... does it freez on the XDAndroid logo boots creen or sooner? | 21:18 |
| arrrghhh | at haret | 21:18 |
| arrrghhh | do you see flying teext | 21:18 |
| arrrghhh | teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeext | 21:18 |
| Guest85884 | yes and then | 21:19 |
| Guest85884 | freezes | 21:19 |
| the_decoy | Need Dec kernel | 21:19 |
| the_decoy | probably still has november one from cab | 21:19 |
| Guest85884 | let me mention to you that i did got it to work once | 21:19 |
| Guest85884 | then i had to restard my cell phone to go back to windows | 21:20 |
| Guest85884 | and now it does not want to work | 21:20 |
| Guest85884 | ;9 | 21:20 |
| Guest85884 | i mean ;( | 21:20 |
| Guest85884 | lol | 21:20 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 21:20 |
| arrrghhh | if it's a RHOD100, what the_decoy speaks is the truth. | 21:21 |
| arrrghhh | somehow i have a feeling you have no clue what rhod you have. | 21:21 |
| arrrghhh | so let's figure that out first. | 21:21 |
| Guest85884 | ok | 21:21 |
| arrrghhh | pull your battery, and find the 'RHODXXX' | 21:21 |
| arrrghhh | fill in the X's. | 21:21 |
| Guest85884 | its a windows mobile phone tilt 2, btw im on it right now so i cant doit sorry | 21:22 |
| Guest85884 | att tilt 2 6.5 pro | 21:22 |
| arrrghhh | that's not helpful | 21:23 |
| arrrghhh | you don't have a computer? | 21:23 |
| the_decoy | Issak, did you use the start up utility to start Droid? | 21:24 |
| Guest85884 | i do but im camping | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | wtf? | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | you're camping?!?! enjoy the outdoors! | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | get off your phone. | 21:24 |
| the_decoy | omg, lol that will not be fun if you brick :P | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | man you don't do the same kind of camping i do. | 21:24 |
| the_decoy | Like with a sniper rifle in CoD? | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:24 |
| Guest85884 | lol ok | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | we take guns sometimes | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | usually have to do some pretty good 4-wheelin or hikin before i'll setup camp. | 21:25 |
| Guest85884 | yeap homeones has one here | 21:25 |
| the_decoy | Issak, did you use the start up utility to start Droid? | 21:25 |
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| arrrghhh | and i usually don't have service where i go camping :P | 21:25 |
| Guest85884 | yes | 21:26 |
| Guest85884 | im using my cell as a modem | 21:26 |
| the_decoy | It has a Device selection | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | seriously man. go enjoy the outdoors, we'll be here when you're back in town. | 21:26 |
| Guest85884 | for my comp | 21:26 |
| the_decoy | You chosse Titlt-2 ? with the blue FN keys? | 21:27 |
| Guest85884 | yes thats the one | 21:27 |
| * the_decoy apparently fails at typing | 21:27 | |
| Guest85884 | compatible w/ the pro2 | 21:27 |
| the_decoy | Then you should be set to the right device type | 21:27 |
| Guest85884 | looks just a like | 21:27 |
| the_decoy | just use that utility to update the kernel | 21:27 |
| Guest85884 | ill do that then | 21:28 |
| the_decoy | Use the "Update" button to download the kernel | 21:28 |
| the_decoy | oh, damn just checked an that still pushes the November kernel | 21:29 |
| arrrghhh | not surprised. | 21:29 |
| Guest85884 | and then re install it? | 21:29 |
| the_decoy | which will get it working better thant the included kernel but December kernel is better | 21:29 |
| arrrghhh | seriously, troubleshooting this while you're camping isn't a good idea. you need a computer. | 21:29 |
| the_decoy | No it just replaces the zImage and modules files in the /andboot/ folder on SD | 21:29 |
| the_decoy | Actually yet, aaaarrrgh is right | 21:30 |
| Guest85884 | i kn im just going to download again the latest updated from herehttp://sites.google.com/site/androidport/downloads | 21:30 |
| arrrghhh | the bundles aren't "the latest" | 21:30 |
| arrrghhh | we couldn't possibly make a new bundle everytime there's a tiny kernel update. | 21:30 |
| Guest85884 | ok i see | 21:31 |
| arrrghhh | seriously. go enjoy the outdoors. we'll help you when it's easier for you to work on this. | 21:31 |
| the_decoy | Yeah, but you can ket it up to Nov-24 level with the utility update button | 21:31 |
| Guest85884 | alright thank you so much | 21:31 |
| the_decoy | yep, have fun | 21:31 |
| Guest85884 | thanks i will | 21:31 |
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| arrrghhh | oy ve. some people's children. | 21:32 |
| arrrghhh | did you see how that started in #htc-linux the_decoy ? | 21:32 |
| the_decoy | Wow, I hope he has a charger handy if you are doing all this chatting/browsing and then Droiding in the great outdoors | 21:32 |
| the_decoy | nope, I can open that now | 21:33 |
| arrrghhh | no need. | 21:33 |
| arrrghhh | he first came in that room... it was painful. | 21:33 |
| stinebd | i heard emwe finally got his raph | 21:33 |
| arrrghhh | he did indeed | 21:33 |
| arrrghhh | he hasn't fixed all the bugs left tho wtf. | 21:34 |
| stinebd | he has | 21:34 |
| stinebd | but the commits are stuck in german customs | 21:34 |
| arrrghhh | just in his personal tree eh? | 21:34 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:34 |
| arrrghhh | even better | 21:34 |
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| arrrghhh | wow. "Hookers for Jesus" | 21:38 |
| arrrghhh | that's a pretty interesting uhm.... interest group? | 21:38 |
| stinebd | are you looking at my facebook page? | 21:39 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps. | 21:39 |
| F22 | the_decoy: you have a rhod110? | 21:45 |
| F22 | i didn't know there was such a thing. :P | 21:45 |
| arrrghhh | ah there's the man. | 21:45 |
| arrrghhh | yea i was surprised as well, as you can see. | 21:45 |
| the_decoy | yeah, sorry guys ... | 21:46 |
| the_decoy | just alt tabbed to install a proper irc client on my work pc | 21:46 |
| F22 | rhod100_uk is probably pretty close. but if you want a special keymap for it, send me a pic of the kbd. | 21:46 |
| the_decoy | ok, will do. Just to make it easier for anyone else wondering which one to choose | 21:47 |
| arrrghhh | i've never heard of a rhod110 before | 21:47 |
| arrrghhh | so i'm thinking you're in the minority ;) | 21:47 |
| the_decoy | I ran the first attempt on something else because ordinarily (like on PCs) UK keyb is an issue for AU due to the Pound symbol instead of $ | 21:48 |
| F22 | we don't have keymaps for most of the 100's either for that matter, just the most popular ones. | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | yea there's too many damned 100's. | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | at least cdma is easy, you've got two choices lol | 21:48 |
| the_decoy | Actually from what I have seen on XDA there are a few RHOD110s around. Quite a few US guys imported them for the 850 +2100 band support | 21:48 |
| F22 | heck i found a pic of the telus rhodium 500 which is actually more like sprint's 400 than verizon's 500. nobody has asked for that one though so i haven't done anything with it. | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | the_decoy, i literally haven't seen one mention of it | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | but, i've only had my rhod for a few months... | 21:49 |
| F22 | uk keymap should have all three of $, £ and €. | 21:50 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | besides, the_decoy don't you just write AU ? :P | 21:51 |
| the_decoy | hehe | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | what is your symbol for currency? | 21:52 |
| the_decoy | $ | 21:52 |
| arrrghhh | $ | 21:52 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:52 |
| the_decoy | but we spell like the UK | 21:52 |
| the_decoy | so we always get mixed shit | 21:52 |
| the_decoy | US keyb but UK dictionary, lol | 21:53 |
| arrrghhh | nice. | 21:53 |
| arrrghhh | what do you mean you spell it like the uk? | 21:53 |
| the_decoy | Colours NOT Colors | 21:53 |
| the_decoy | Honour NOT Honor | 21:53 |
| the_decoy | etc | 21:53 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 21:54 |
| arrrghhh | i thought we were talkin 'bout money :P | 21:54 |
| arrrghhh | yea i knew that haha | 21:54 |
| arrrghhh | you guys are just debtors from the UK in reality. damn country of prisoners haha jk ;) | 21:54 |
| the_decoy | lol, nah ... but our dollars are funky colors like canada .. not drab green for everything :P | 21:55 |
| arrrghhh | have you seen the new 100's? | 21:55 |
| arrrghhh | i guess they had to stop the production | 21:55 |
| arrrghhh | very erm... colorful? | 21:55 |
| the_decoy | US$ 100s? | 21:55 |
| arrrghhh | sorry colourful :P | 21:55 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 21:55 |
| the_decoy | LMAO | 21:55 |
| arrrghhh | http://www.shoppingblog.com/blog/421107 | 21:55 |
| arrrghhh | what a horrible site that i will probably never link again... sorry just had the best image lol | 21:56 |
| arrrghhh | still pretty green, granted. but definitely more colorful than ever before :P | 21:57 |
| F22 | us dollars are becoming increasingly colorful... | 21:57 |
| F22 | i think they're trying to break us in slowly. | 21:57 |
| F22 | otherwise we'd think it was toy money or something. | 21:58 |
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| arrrghhh | lol | 22:02 |
| xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Balaji V., who says: Thanks for the hardwork and making android work on my HTC touch pro 2. | 22:02 |
| arrrghhh | monopoly money | 22:02 |
| F22 | yep | 22:04 |
| * the_decoy_ has just received a call on his xdandriod (thankfully it still answered even tho the screen did not wake up) | 22:05 | |
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| arrrghhh | lol | 22:12 |
| arrrghhh | it gets even more fun the_decoy | 22:12 |
| arrrghhh | i love when the phone soft resets to winmo. or resets within android, and the speakerphone flips on. whooopie! although on frx03 these have occurred less. | 22:12 |
| arrrghhh | i get too many SOD's tho. i have my sleep set to 2, i guess i should try 1... | 22:13 |
| the_decoy_ | yeah I know I have been running it as my fulltime phone OS all week | 22:13 |
| the_decoy_ | yeah SoDs are my biggest issue | 22:13 |
| arrrghhh | yea i've had too many issues with calls to run it full time. | 22:13 |
| arrrghhh | frx03 has made it A LOT better tho. | 22:13 |
| the_decoy_ | got pretty much everything else sorted, stavble or at a happy compromise (eg no camera) | 22:13 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, speaking of which, just an fyi random peoples have said they're still getting in-call volume press resets. i still haven't been able to reproduce it, so somehow i have a feeling they're not up-to-date... | 22:14 |
| the_decoy_ | Loving the fact that I can finally usethe 80211x wifi at my campus (I work at a university) | 22:14 |
| arrrghhh | wifi's worked for a long time... | 22:14 |
| the_decoy_ | No I mean the TTLS auth support | 22:15 |
| arrrghhh | WEP still doesn't play nice with RHOD's, but WEP sucks. | 22:15 |
| the_decoy_ | Winmo doesnt have it | 22:15 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 22:15 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:15 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 22:15 |
| the_decoy_ | and the iPhanboys at work were hanging shit my roms for it lol | 22:15 |
| arrrghhh | iphone doesn't have it either? lol. | 22:16 |
| the_decoy_ | Without that TTLS auth the othe Wifi went thru a web auth gateway which was just pointless for phone browsing | 22:16 |
| the_decoy_ | No the iphones had it | 22:16 |
| the_decoy_ | IOS4 anyway | 22:16 |
| arrrghhh | heh | 22:16 |
| the_decoy_ | oh, I gotta go grab some lunch | 22:17 |
| arrrghhh | lunch? oh right, australia. | 22:17 |
| the_decoy_ | BRB in20min | 22:17 |
| the_decoy_ | yeayh lol | 22:17 |
| arrrghhh | haha cya | 22:17 |
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| AFK_the_decoy | PS: Still looking for better pics, but here are some of the RHOD110 (aka Touch Pro 2 T7381) | 22:20 |
| AFK_the_decoy | http://www.exeltek.com.au/htc-touch-pro-telstra-next-mobile-phone-t7381-australian-stock-unlocked-pro2-p-1787.html | 22:20 |
| F22 | that's hard to read | 22:26 |
| arrrghhh | downright impossible. | 22:31 |
| arrrghhh | googling rhod110 doesn't bring up much either. | 22:31 |
| arrrghhh | if he's got the phone, and a semi-decent camera... | 22:31 |
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| F22 | yup, several others have snapped pics for me. | 22:45 |
| F22 | from that pic i can't really tell if it's any different from the uk 100. | 22:46 |
| arrrghhh | i doubt it is. | 22:51 |
| arrrghhh | 3ft | 22:51 |
| arrrghhh | whoops | 22:51 |
| F22 | probably not, but if i'm going to make one i want it to be right. i have a reputation maintain. :P | 22:52 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 22:52 |
| arrrghhh | has anything you've done been committed yet? :P | 22:52 |
| F22 | two things, one of which was accepted. ;) | 22:53 |
| F22 | but the overhwelming majority of my work hasn't been. | 22:53 |
| F22 | hasn't been committed yet that is. | 22:55 |
| arrrghhh | indeed. | 22:55 |
| arrrghhh | what's the story on your diabolical plans of giving people the option to choose the button layout in the startup.txt? | 22:56 |
| F22 | ahh...those... | 22:57 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:57 |
| F22 | i've been pontificating over set cmdline syntax... | 22:57 |
| F22 | i hate to keep changing that on people...but i need something that can be expanded in a sensible fashion. | 22:57 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 22:58 |
| arrrghhh | well nothing is official yet with it | 22:58 |
| arrrghhh | so screw the people that are testing your stuff. they'll be happy that it's committed. | 22:58 |
| F22 | something that works for kernel as well as userland if i throw in the option to change the power button too. | 22:58 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 22:58 |
| F22 | for example, in a kernel/rootfs combo i haven't released, i had POWER=bEnd, cause the kernel to make Home the power button -and- rootfs make the end button the power button. That didn't jive well with b4=HOME however, or bptt=SEARCH. | 23:01 |
| F22 | plus it only gave half the info of what was being done. | 23:01 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:01 |
| arrrghhh | i love how the gsm versions have ptt buttons | 23:02 |
| F22 | but as a test of getting both the kernel and the rootfs to do what i wanted, it worked. | 23:02 |
| arrrghhh | and now sprint phones all need ptt buttons... but they don't have them. | 23:02 |
| arrrghhh | sprintfail | 23:02 |
| arrrghhh | well at least you can make it do what you want to... giggity! | 23:02 |
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| F22 | yeah, that pretty much recreated nate's revert as an option. | 23:03 |
| the_decoy | Hey, sorry that wasn't wan't meant to be a page link but a link to one fo the pics from that page | 23:03 |
| F22 | but there are things i don't like about that method. | 23:03 |
| the_decoy | I will happily take a photo once home | 23:04 |
| arrrghhh | the_decoy, no rush. | 23:05 |
| arrrghhh | F22 will get it committed sometime in the next 4 years. | 23:05 |
| the_decoy | hahaha | 23:05 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 23:05 |
| F22 | as i mentioned in my post, there's probably a good reason why the power button is the only button handled by the kernel on the rhodium, and it's probably not a good idea to make home the only button set by the kernel instead. | 23:05 |
| the_decoy | For all 4 of us rhod110 users, lol | 23:05 |
| arrrghhh | seriously tho that is a lot of work | 23:05 |
| arrrghhh | letting users pick the button layout that is F22 | 23:05 |
| arrrghhh | hmmm | 23:05 |
| arrrghhh | yea that is a good point. that means there's consequences for my actions? damnit. | 23:06 |
| F22 | it's better to map power onto a different gpio in the kernel. | 23:06 |
| the_decoy | Hey just out of curiosity, why on earth was power mapped to end call button in the first place? | 23:06 |
| the_decoy | Android phones don't have an end call button so it isn't like it got carried over | 23:07 |
| F22 | so power is still the only button handled by the kernel, it's just a different physical button. | 23:07 |
| arrrghhh | end call has never been mapped to power | 23:08 |
| arrrghhh | has it? | 23:08 |
| arrrghhh | by default at least. thru the accessibility options you can enable it. | 23:08 |
| arrrghhh | but that's part of android, nothing we did. | 23:08 |
| F22 | not to my knowledge. | 23:08 |
| F22 | but you can do it easily enough. | 23:08 |
| arrrghhh | what are you smokin the_decoy. and why are you not sharing? | 23:09 |
| F22 | just change the layout file. | 23:09 |
| the_decoy | Hang on I think you got me backwards there. | 23:09 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 23:09 |
| F22 | er, that not to my knowledge means officially. | 23:09 |
| the_decoy | Until I remapped "end Call" to be "Home" it was doing rthe same as the power button | 23:09 |
| arrrghhh | power mapped to end call | 23:09 |
| F22 | nate did it. | 23:09 |
| F22 | i've done it. | 23:09 |
| arrrghhh | and power mapped to power | 23:09 |
| F22 | nothing stopping you from mapping a 2nd power button in the layout. | 23:09 |
| arrrghhh | yea... that changed recently. | 23:10 |
| arrrghhh | the_decoy, we don't have a good solution for the button layout. hence the reason we're trying to get some flexibility in what you can have, easily. | 23:10 |
| arrrghhh | obviously anyone can change the code, but not everyone is comfortable doing it. | 23:11 |
| the_decoy | Yeah, I understand ... I just couldn't fathom why as DEFAULT it sets 2 buttons as the same thing (thereby wasting one??) | 23:11 |
| arrrghhh | everyone wanted something different with the button layout. | 23:11 |
| arrrghhh | yea... that is awesome. you have to use spare parts to fix the end key basically. | 23:12 |
| the_decoy | It wasn't until I read a post in the xda thread that I knew I could change it to be "Home" | 23:12 |
| arrrghhh | or use a custom rootfs | 23:12 |
| the_decoy | Up until then I was like Back -> Back -> back -> out of things lol | 23:12 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 23:12 |
| arrrghhh | the browser is the best. | 23:12 |
| arrrghhh | gotta hit back like 50 times depending on how long you've been browsing lol | 23:13 |
| the_decoy | yep, total PIA | 23:13 |
| the_decoy | *PITA | 23:13 |
| arrrghhh | it'll eventually get you to the home screen. | 23:13 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 23:13 |
| arrrghhh | so when are you going to fix all the remaining bugs the_decoy ? | 23:13 |
| the_decoy | Once I found that setting int Spare Parts I litterally "wooted" in my cubicle :P | 23:13 |
| the_decoy | Gimme a sec, I only started this week :P | 23:14 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 23:14 |
| the_decoy | Still trying to get familar with the kernel repo and build system | 23:14 |
| arrrghhh | seriously tho, if you do want to get involved in the development, there's git repo's galore | 23:14 |
| F22 | there are two different drivers handling gpio buttons on the rhodium, and a third driver handling microp buttons. it's a bit messy. the power button is the sole button handled by its driver however. the end key is passed along to userland by a different driver. need to create the ability to swap them so which ever button isn't set to power, can still have its layout set in userland. | 23:14 |
| arrrghhh | madness | 23:15 |
| the_decoy | Frankly I am totally ok with leaving the Power button the hell alone | 23:15 |
| arrrghhh | is this how HTC does it? | 23:15 |
| the_decoy | Nothing wrong with the default behaviour there | 23:15 |
| arrrghhh | i mean with the mix of microp and gpio... that seems crazy. | 23:16 |
| the_decoy | But I do concede that you need some flexibilty for all the other buttons due to the varied nature of RHOD button layouts | 23:16 |
| arrrghhh | i guess nobody really knows, all part of the fun. | 23:16 |
| F22 | raphael is handled differently. none of the buttons are microp, just the keyboard keys. | 23:16 |
| arrrghhh | hm | 23:16 |
| F22 | but power is still split off from the others. | 23:17 |
| the_decoy | Because it needs to wake the device from deep sleep modes? | 23:17 |
| F22 | on the rhodium however, the power button, end button and call buttons are all handled by different kernel drivers. | 23:17 |
| the_decoy | ahh | 23:18 |
| arrrghhh | MADNESS | 23:18 |
| F22 | makes it a pain to create layout options, because anything affecting the first 3 front panel buttons is microp, and those are different for each rhodium model. | 23:19 |
| the_decoy | Yeah, and then the whole PTT vs No-PTT thing :( | 23:19 |
| F22 | so say i wanted to create a standard android layout option. | 23:20 |
| F22 | right now i'd need 9 different microp layouts, one for each rhodium model, plus 1 "navi_pad" layout for the GPIO buttons other than power, and a kernel option to deal with power. | 23:21 |
| F22 | er i take that back, the standard android option wouldn't need the kernel option. | 23:21 |
| F22 | that's only required if you want to move power. | 23:21 |
| F22 | the navi_pads don't vary based on model thankfully. | 23:22 |
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| arrrghhh | ha | 23:23 |
| arrrghhh | yea, i wish all rhod's had a ptt button. | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | stupid. | 23:24 |
| F22 | to my knowledge, tilt2 is the only one that does. | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | i don't see why sprint didn't start including a button on all their phones. | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | oh really? | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | it's not all gsm models? | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | just the att rhod? | 23:24 |
| F22 | my 210 doesn't have ptt. | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | what is that, rhod300? | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | huh. | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | go figure. | 23:25 |
| F22 | yep 300 | 23:25 |
| F22 | wish it did. | 23:25 |
| arrrghhh | att has ptt? | 23:25 |
| F22 | it would make a great camera button. | 23:25 |
| F22 | yep | 23:25 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 23:25 |
| arrrghhh | camera button. | 23:25 |
| arrrghhh | funny guy. | 23:25 |
| F22 | hey...bzo says they're really, really close... | 23:25 |
| arrrghhh | :P i'd rather see a hard search button, but that's just me. | 23:25 |
| F22 | i created an option to set it to search. | 23:26 |
| arrrghhh | i know, someone claimed they got preview workin | 23:26 |
| arrrghhh | he's massaging the code | 23:26 |
| F22 | it works for pohket who has a tilt2. | 23:26 |
| arrrghhh | Oo i didn't know that | 23:26 |
| arrrghhh | where the hell is wistilt | 23:26 |
| arrrghhh | he promised he'd be back after thanksgiving :( | 23:26 |
| F22 | no idea >( | 23:26 |
| F22 | :( | 23:26 |
| arrrghhh | there ya go angry sad >:( | 23:27 |
| F22 | not really angry, just sad. | 23:27 |
| * the_decoy gets off tech support call | 23:27 | |
| F22 | the first one was a typo | 23:27 |
| the_decoy | Yeah, mine is GSM, not PTT | 23:27 |
| the_decoy | Does have front Camera | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | ah well. i just keep hoping he comes back with some things working :D | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | ha yea no front cam here. | 23:28 |
| the_decoy | lol, then there's the "Zoom bar" ;) | 23:28 |
| arrrghhh | oh yea. | 23:28 |
| arrrghhh | i think all rhod's have that in common. | 23:28 |
| F22 | i had a conversation with stine about that awhile back. it's an extension of the panel, and theoretically we can use one of the handsets with capacitive buttons as a model on how to turn the zoombar into buttons. | 23:29 |
| F22 | interestingly enough, the verizon model of the hero (aka droid eris) has capacitive buttons, while sprint's model has physical buttons. so we could probably work from them. | 23:30 |
| F22 | looking at the differences | 23:30 |
| the_decoy | So I guess the "rapid volume button = crash" bug is related to the button driver thing too | 23:32 |
| arrrghhh | that's fixed. | 23:32 |
| F22 | rapid volume button crash should be fixed as of frx03. | 23:32 |
| the_decoy | really? I crashed mine plenty of times with it earlier this week | 23:32 |
| arrrghhh | frx03 sir? | 23:32 |
| the_decoy | yep | 23:32 |
| arrrghhh | you're sure | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | settings -> about phone | 23:33 |
| the_decoy | I got onboard with FR0x | 23:33 |
| the_decoy | hang on | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | all the way at the bottom, build # | 23:33 |
| the_decoy | 'hahaha, SoD ... won't wake up lol | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | fail | 23:33 |
| the_decoy | yeay! | 23:33 |
| the_decoy | it came back :P | 23:33 |
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| arrrghhh | man... i haven't been able to recreate the repeated volume restart/crash at all. | 23:34 |
| F22 | me neither | 23:34 |
| F22 | well... | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | oh? | 23:34 |
| F22 | i can if i try to get the headset to work with force_headset... :P | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | i haven't tried messing with that in a while. | 23:34 |
| F22 | it works with the trick, but it doesn't like being futzed with, can crash the phone. | 23:35 |
| the_decoy | full_msm-eng 2.2.1 MASTER eng.mjg.20101010.204523 test-keys | 23:35 |
| arrrghhh | not frx03. | 23:35 |
| the_decoy | but I may have a slightly newer kernel since it last happened | 23:35 |
| arrrghhh | sir, that's freakin old. | 23:35 |
| jmo_ | Hey peeps, got time for a quick n00b question? | 23:35 |
| F22 | i take it you never got around to trying it out set to 1 arrrghhh? | 23:35 |
| arrrghhh | jmo_, when do i not | 23:35 |
| arrrghhh | F22, nah kinda forgot. | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | my curiousity turned into lethargy. | 23:36 |
| jmo_ | hehe, do i need to rename the modules.tar.gz file to anything specific? | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | nope | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | leave it modules-xxxxxx.tar.gz | 23:36 |
| jmo_ | alrighty then, let's see how this goes | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | leave it compressed too ;) | 23:36 |
| the_decoy | lol | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | it's just for wifi | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | so funny, some people depend completely on wifi. i don't really use it at all on mah phone. | 23:37 |
| F22 | the_decoy: that wasn't a kernel problem, it was a userland problem, your system.ext2 is pre-fix. | 23:37 |
| the_decoy | oh, cool | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | yea d00d. 10.10? wtf. :P | 23:37 |
| the_decoy | lol, sooooooo many damn repos for this thing :P | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 23:37 |
| the_decoy | xda, google, git, other forums, etc | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | xdandroid.com has all the update stuff on the main page | 23:38 |
| the_decoy | I am sure thats were I got this from | 23:38 |
| arrrghhh | seriously, it's got all the newest stuff right on the front page. | 23:38 |
| the_decoy | hang on just re-reading to see where I went wrong | 23:39 |
| arrrghhh | latest system image, kernel, rootfs and initrd. | 23:39 |
| arrrghhh | are you building your own image? | 23:39 |
| the_decoy | not yet | 23:39 |
| arrrghhh | k | 23:39 |
| arrrghhh | build image should simply say "FRX03" if you're running a signed image. | 23:39 |
| arrrghhh | that's frx03 :P | 23:39 |
| the_decoy | ok I have found the system.ext2 for FRX03 | 23:39 |
| arrrghhh | hooray? | 23:40 |
| the_decoy | wtf ... I must have just used the page from XDA thread (with startup util) | 23:40 |
| arrrghhh | man disabling jit squashed so many bugs. | 23:40 |
| arrrghhh | startup utility doesn't update system image :P | 23:40 |
| arrrghhh | seems sov is working to remedy that tho. | 23:40 |
| the_decoy | and have been manually updating the initrd/kernel/root since then | 23:40 |
| arrrghhh | xdandroid.com ftw | 23:41 |
| the_decoy | ok, well that is cool. Sorry for noobing out like that :D | 23:41 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 23:41 |
| arrrghhh | no problem, we all have our moments. | 23:41 |
| arrrghhh | except stinebd. that dude is always flawless. | 23:42 |
| F22 | so i was thinking of something along the lines of layout=hmbe (standard android) or layout=cmbh (default with home on button 4) | 23:43 |
| F22 | it gets confusing though when the power button gets added in. | 23:43 |
| arrrghhh | hm | 23:43 |
| arrrghhh | ah crap i should probably hit the sack soon. sooooo much driving tomorrow. really hoping the mountains don't get pounded with snow. | 23:44 |
| the_decoy | Seriously though, I folowed the links for "FRX03" from XDA page to here : http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/downloads | 23:45 |
| the_decoy | Whic hgave me http://reefermattness.scepterr.info/XDAndroid2.2Froyo.112210.rar | 23:46 |
| F22 | i was thinking about adding power to that same option, but i'm currently stumped on how to accomplish that with the recommended method of handling it in the kernel, ie. module_param() since that prefixes the driver name to the option like pm.sleep_mode which throws the combined option for kernel and rootfs idea off. | 23:47 |
| arrrghhh | the_decoy, you read me "build number" earlier right? | 23:47 |
| the_decoy | yep | 23:47 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. i don't know dude. | 23:47 |
| the_decoy | full_msm-eng 2.2.1 MASTER eng.mjg.20101010.204523 test-keys | 23:48 |
| arrrghhh | did you download blazn | 23:48 |
| the_decoy | dunno, weird | 23:48 |
| arrrghhh | or reference | 23:48 |
| the_decoy | Actually yeah it does say FRX03 Reference | 23:48 |
| the_decoy | Haven't even tried BLAZN | 23:48 |
| arrrghhh | huh | 23:48 |
| arrrghhh | maybe reef's build is messed up | 23:48 |
| the_decoy | everyone seems to say it is not current so I hadn't bothered | 23:48 |
| arrrghhh | which would explain why a few peoples are complaining about the volume bug. | 23:49 |
| the_decoy | My download of the wiki site system.ext2 is alomost down | 23:49 |
| arrrghhh | done? | 23:49 |
| the_decoy | I will compare in a sec | 23:49 |
| the_decoy | pe done | 23:49 |
| the_decoy | yeah, sorry bad typos | 23:50 |
| F22 | i don't want to set up msm-gpio-keys.layout=hcmbp when the only one really handled by msm-gpio-keys is power. | 23:50 |
| arrrghhh | F22, lol your pretty words are lost on us methinks. | 23:50 |
| F22 | if i do them separate it gets confusing if power gets moved into userland. | 23:50 |
| F22 | heh, yeah. | 23:50 |
| arrrghhh | just so long as you know you're talking to yourself. | 23:50 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 23:50 |
| F22 | but things like this are why i haven't committed. :P | 23:51 |
| the_decoy | I can vaguely follow but I am still very anti the whole idea of messing wit hthe power button | 23:51 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 23:51 |
| the_decoy | gah, download finally done (damn lame aussie bandwidth) | 23:52 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. | 23:52 |
| arrrghhh | it looks like it's just reef's compile of stine's repo. | 23:52 |
| arrrghhh | so that's why you get the test-keys in the build number | 23:52 |
| arrrghhh | instead of FRX03 :P | 23:52 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not sure how to tell by looking at the files if the one reef included in his pack is - or isn't - frx03. | 23:53 |
| the_decoy | Yep, the wiki site version is from 3:11pm on 19-Nov ... whereas the one I have is from 11:39am 19-Nov | 23:54 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 23:54 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder if he jumped the gun on building it | 23:54 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:54 |
| F22 | check the commit | 23:55 |
| arrrghhh | que? | 23:55 |
| F22 | er sorry | 23:55 |
| the_decoy | FRX03 file = 124,436,480bytes | 23:55 |
| F22 | you're talking about system | 23:55 |
| arrrghhh | yessir | 23:55 |
| the_decoy | Package file = 123,686,912 bytes | 23:55 |
| arrrghhh | i'll let him know. | 23:55 |
| the_decoy | yep, system.ext2 | 23:55 |
| F22 | system isn't one git, it's several, each with their own commit logs. | 23:56 |
| the_decoy | I did wonder why that package bundle unzipped to a folder named "XDAndroid2.2Froyo.XXxxXX" | 23:56 |
| the_decoy | litterally with those X's | 23:57 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 23:57 |
| arrrghhh | i see that too | 23:57 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:57 |
| arrrghhh | talkin to reef now. | 23:57 |
| arrrghhh | he's a little flabbergasted haha | 23:57 |
| F22 | probably should have been either a timestamp or a build id. | 23:58 |
| the_decoy | yeah thats what I figurd | 23:58 |
| jmo_ | boo no magic :( I keep getting stuck at mdp irq already on 4 4 | 23:58 |
| F22 | the_decoy: i'm not really thrilled with the idea of messing with power button either. i'm happy with just making end into home. | 23:59 |
| the_decoy | Yeah that is exactly what I thought would make sense | 23:59 |
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