| stinebd | boy | 00:04 |
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| stinebd | it'd be nice if that fixed bug 19 too | 00:04 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19 critical, High, ---, developers, NEW, Boot loop on first boot (fresh data.img) | 00:04 |
| F22 | definitely. i hope it fixes several of our more mysterious bugs... | 00:09 |
| stinebd | system now ready, 1 for 1 | 00:14 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: if you feel like helping out with that tedium as well, it would be helpful | 00:16 |
| stinebd | if it's not jit's fault, maybe i'll get lucky and repro it on the 2nd try or something | 00:16 |
| F22 | lol, are you ready to take ownership of the orphan? | 00:17 |
| stinebd | ? | 00:17 |
| F22 | didn't you say it was abandoned/unmaintained? | 00:18 |
| stinebd | jit? no way in hell i'm messing with that. | 00:18 |
| stinebd | 2 for 2 | 00:22 |
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| stinebd | GSM Association proposes embedded SIM cards with remote activation for 2012 http://engt.co/cH9F9Z | 00:27 |
| stinebd | gsm demands cdmaness | 00:27 |
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| r^7z | wholey ass crackers! | 00:28 |
| r^7z | oh whatever shall we do?! | 00:29 |
| stinebd | 3 for 3 | 00:30 |
| r^7z | is LTE really that bad for us? | 00:30 |
| r^7z | alright, I expect a 50 page synopsis on why LTE is the devil on my desk first thing in the morning! :P :D | 00:33 |
| r^7z | i'm out like a light! | 00:33 |
| arrrghhh | ha | 00:33 |
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| arrrghhh | gsm becoming like cdma | 00:33 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: i pushed the buildprop changes for disabling jit to device/xdandroid btw | 00:33 |
| arrrghhh | what did you want help with? | 00:33 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 00:33 |
| stinebd | i'm currently testing for bug 19 | 00:33 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19 critical, High, ---, developers, NEW, Boot loop on first boot (fresh data.img) | 00:33 |
| arrrghhh | oh sure | 00:34 |
| stinebd | 3 good boots, 0 bad so far | 00:34 |
| arrrghhh | nice! | 00:34 |
| arrrghhh | you're just knockin bugs down man | 00:34 |
| arrrghhh | maybe there is some truth in people saying 2.1 was more stable lol :P | 00:34 |
| stinebd | we had jit then too | 00:35 |
| arrrghhh | when did we not? | 00:35 |
| arrrghhh | damn | 00:35 |
| arrrghhh | 1.6? | 00:35 |
| stinebd | donut and early eclair | 00:35 |
| stinebd | before we had a build tree | 00:35 |
| stinebd | back when babijoee took roms and hacked them up | 00:35 |
| arrrghhh | back in the good ole days | 00:37 |
| stinebd | looks like 4 for 4 | 00:38 |
| stinebd | #5 is my last test of the night | 00:41 |
| arrrghhh | so where's the new system image? | 00:41 |
| stinebd | you said you had a tree :P | 00:42 |
| stinebd | are you running an unmodified FRX02? | 00:42 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:42 |
| arrrghhh | i do | 00:42 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 00:42 |
| stinebd | i'll whip up an update.zip for you then | 00:43 |
| arrrghhh | for this testing i am. | 00:43 |
| arrrghhh | cool | 00:43 |
| stinebd | http://files.xdandroid.com/.NOT-FOR-RELEASE/update-FRX02-20101118.zip | 00:46 |
| stinebd | 5 for 5 | 00:47 |
| arrrghhh | sounds promising indeed. | 00:48 |
| stinebd | lol a 677KB update file | 00:48 |
| stinebd | pathetic | 00:48 |
| arrrghhh | that's awesome. | 00:48 |
| arrrghhh | it's just the jit change right? | 00:49 |
| stinebd | not sure | 00:49 |
| arrrghhh | and for my reference | 00:49 |
| arrrghhh | i just do a repo sync and then make right? | 00:49 |
| stinebd | oh it stuck Gallery3D in there for some reason | 00:49 |
| stinebd | would be about 80% smaller without gallery3d | 00:50 |
| arrrghhh | hahahaha | 00:50 |
| stinebd | usually yes, but in this case you have to remove out/target/product/msm/system/build.prop too | 00:50 |
| stinebd | otherwise the build system won't know to update it for some reason | 00:50 |
| stinebd | some frameworks changes too it looks like | 00:51 |
| stinebd | oh right | 00:52 |
| stinebd | background blurring for certain dialogs is disabled and emwe's changes for the unused backlight values | 00:52 |
| arrrghhh | you're just rippin thru that buglist huh | 00:57 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:57 |
| arrrghhh | uh oh | 01:00 |
| arrrghhh | i have a little android with an exclamation point after the update | 01:00 |
| arrrghhh | i'm guessing that means it couldn't reboot the phone and i just need to soft reset...? | 01:00 |
| stinebd | that means the update failed | 01:01 |
| stinebd | are you sure you had a completely unmodified frx02? no updates since? | 01:01 |
| arrrghhh | not positive. i'm building the image myself as well :P | 01:02 |
| stinebd | gotta use the distributed image | 01:02 |
| stinebd | with signed packages | 01:02 |
| arrrghhh | well the only update would've been when i was testing that update.zip in the first place lol | 01:03 |
| stinebd | that'd do it | 01:03 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 01:03 |
| arrrghhh | yea i may have not reverted back to the original | 01:04 |
| arrrghhh | ah well i got my copy here | 01:04 |
| arrrghhh | of mah build system image :D | 01:04 |
| arrrghhh | lets see if it works... | 01:04 |
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| arrrghhh | damnit why is my wifi faster than my usb2.0. | 01:09 |
| arrrghhh | i'm going to throw this laptop in a fire. | 01:09 |
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| arrrghhh | crap, i forgot to delete the update.zip. | 01:10 |
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| ob_ | ok | 01:28 |
| ob_ | thank you | 01:28 |
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| ob_ | very sorry about that | 01:28 |
| arrrghhh | hey look at that | 01:28 |
| arrrghhh | never used irc before? | 01:28 |
| ob_ | lol | 01:28 |
| ob_ | no | 01:28 |
| ob_ | never | 01:28 |
| arrrghhh | damn. | 01:28 |
| arrrghhh | ok then. | 01:28 |
| arrrghhh | first off, we don't officially support the startup utility you describe. it causes issues, and doesn't update itself - so if there's a bug in the application you must download the newest version, which it sounds like you don't have it. | 01:28 |
| ob_ | thank you for your patience | 01:29 |
| arrrghhh | so that's where i would start | 01:29 |
| arrrghhh | do you know the thread for that app? | 01:29 |
| arrrghhh | again, it's not officially supported. the app dev supports it, that's about it. | 01:29 |
| ob_ | ok | 01:29 |
| ob_ | so if it says | 01:29 |
| ob_ | that there is an update | 01:29 |
| ob_ | available then it should be on the website | 01:29 |
| arrrghhh | slow down | 01:29 |
| arrrghhh | the app doesn't update itself | 01:29 |
| ob_ | if not it's basically obsolete? | 01:29 |
| arrrghhh | i know it sounds insane | 01:30 |
| arrrghhh | but the app only updates pieces of android | 01:30 |
| arrrghhh | kernel, rootfs | 01:30 |
| arrrghhh | probably initrd if it ever changes | 01:30 |
| ob_ | i understand what you're saying | 01:30 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 01:30 |
| arrrghhh | so do you have the newest version of it? | 01:30 |
| ob_ | not the kernel, rootfs and intrd part | 01:30 |
| arrrghhh | 1.3.1 i think | 01:30 |
| ob_ | but i got you | 01:30 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know what it is | 01:30 |
| arrrghhh | i don't use it | 01:30 |
| ob_ | i believe so | 01:30 |
| ob_ | the latest one i can find on the website | 01:30 |
| arrrghhh | ok. i can't really help you if you're using the newest version then lol. | 01:30 |
| arrrghhh | what website | 01:31 |
| arrrghhh | sov's support thread? | 01:31 |
| ob_ | most likely | 01:31 |
| arrrghhh | that's the only place i know of where you can download it by itself. | 01:31 |
| arrrghhh | link me. | 01:31 |
| ob_ | let me get pull it up it's in my bookmarks | 01:31 |
| arrrghhh | k | 01:31 |
| ob_ | http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/downloads | 01:32 |
| ob_ | the .cab is what i'm using | 01:32 |
| ob_ | the nov 1 update | 01:33 |
| arrrghhh | nope | 01:33 |
| arrrghhh | not what i'm talkin 'bout | 01:33 |
| arrrghhh | that's the full package | 01:33 |
| ob_ | ah ok | 01:33 |
| arrrghhh | there's a thread on just the update utility | 01:33 |
| arrrghhh | first off, we don't officially support the startup utility you describe. it causes issues, and doesn't update itself - so if there's a bug in the application you must download the newest version, which it sounds like you don't have it. | 01:33 |
| arrrghhh | damnit | 01:33 |
| arrrghhh | sorry | 01:33 |
| ob_ | and it links me there | 01:33 |
| arrrghhh | clipboard fail | 01:33 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807117 | 01:33 |
| arrrghhh | oh does it? | 01:33 |
| arrrghhh | that's new lol | 01:33 |
| ob_ | i believe so | 01:34 |
| arrrghhh | well if you've got the newest 1.3.1 i'm not sure what to tell you. | 01:34 |
| ob_ | one moment let me confirm | 01:34 |
| arrrghhh | other than i don't use it, and we don't support it :D | 01:34 |
| ob_ | ya it does | 01:34 |
| ob_ | link me to the site that i just provided w/the full package | 01:34 |
| ob_ | let me check your link tho | 01:34 |
| ob_ | is your link supposed to provide me with something to download? | 01:37 |
| ob_ | i see where it says download but it's not working when i click it | 01:38 |
| ob_ | nvmnd | 01:39 |
| ob_ | i see it | 01:39 |
| ob_ | thank you for your patience and assistance, i'll try this and see if it works for me | 01:40 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: anything? | 01:42 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, 3/3 so far | 01:42 |
| stinebd | ok | 01:42 |
| arrrghhh | 4/4 now. freakin awesome. | 01:44 |
| arrrghhh | this is on "my" system image. glad to see my build environment is functional :D | 01:44 |
| arrrghhh | crap just had a soft reset. weird. | 01:44 |
| arrrghhh | damnit now winmo is locked up. this is all your fault stinebd. | 01:47 |
| F22 | lol | 01:54 |
| F22 | i'm so tired i can't even see straight. time for me to get some sleep before i misread any more comments. hopefully i'll wake up to a successfully compiled system tomorrow morning. good night folks. | 01:54 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 01:56 |
| arrrghhh | 5/5 stinebd | 01:56 |
| F22 | *grumbles* it just had to finish compiling before i could walk away... :P | 01:56 |
| F22 | damn it | 01:57 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 01:58 |
| arrrghhh | bed time for me | 01:58 |
| arrrghhh | good work tonight guys :D | 01:58 |
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| F22 | so no data image weirdness and just a single soft reset? that's not so bad. | 02:00 |
| arrrghhh | well i was testing the creation of data.img's | 02:00 |
| arrrghhh | so when i say 5/5 boots | 02:01 |
| arrrghhh | that means i deleting my data.img every boot | 02:01 |
| arrrghhh | i was deleting | 02:01 |
| arrrghhh | oy i'm tired :P | 02:01 |
| F22 | and they were cleanly made each time i gather. | 02:01 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 02:01 |
| arrrghhh | not a single bootloop | 02:01 |
| F22 | not even brief ones? | 02:02 |
| arrrghhh | well | 02:02 |
| arrrghhh | when i say bootloop, like the boot anim would play infinitely if i let it | 02:02 |
| F22 | ah | 02:02 |
| arrrghhh | the boot animation would indeed loop. several dozen times probably lol | 02:02 |
| arrrghhh | never got one of those in android? | 02:03 |
| arrrghhh | i think it was worse on the raph. basically every time it would create a new data.img on the raph it would get stuck in a loop | 02:03 |
| F22 | oddly, i've never had much of an issue with those. once i think only. | 02:03 |
| arrrghhh | yea, rhod didn't seem to be effected nearly as badly for some reason. | 02:03 |
| F22 | if i get a loop problem it's generally before the ani. | 02:03 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 02:04 |
| F22 | and usually because i forgot to zap the data image when i replaced system | 02:04 |
| arrrghhh | that'll do it :P | 02:04 |
| arrrghhh | anyhoo. sleepy time. cya tomorrow. | 02:04 |
| F22 | pleasant dreams | 02:05 |
| F22 | i'm off too. | 02:05 |
| F22 | just too tired | 02:05 |
| F22 | even if it is ready to install | 02:05 |
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| TheDeadCPU | <stinebd> that's mostly for TheDeadCPU who would otherwise spread all this and get it posted on slashdot somehow | 07:43 |
| TheDeadCPU | wut | 07:43 |
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| i5noc | lol | 08:02 |
| TheDeadCPU | What did I do now? | 08:03 |
| i5noc | @ur wat | 08:03 |
| i5noc | s/wat/wut | 08:03 |
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| arrrghhhTP2 | Stine, you must release this new system image. | 10:33 |
| arrrghhhTP2 | This is.... awesome. | 10:33 |
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| TheDeadCPU | arrrghhhTP2, what did I do earlier? | 11:00 |
| TheDeadCPU | <stinebd> that's mostly for TheDeadCPU who would otherwise spread all this and get it posted on slashdot somehow | 11:00 |
| TheDeadCPU | Oooo! stinebd is on. | 11:00 |
| TheDeadCPU | stinebd, tell me tell me tell med | 11:00 |
| arrrghhhTP2 | Lol | 11:11 |
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| TheDeadCPU | OMG DOUBLE arrrghhh | 11:13 |
| TheDeadCPU | aww | 11:13 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 11:13 |
| arrrghhh | aw. seems that tonev guy is full of hot air... | 11:14 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 11:14 |
| arrrghhh | well, at least stinebd single-handedly fixed every bug by disabling jit because i was trying to track down the cause of one bug lol | 11:14 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 11:17 |
| TheDeadCPU | What bugs that is? | 11:17 |
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| Kenji | hey guys i'm new here. I got a touch pro 2 from tmobile so the keyboard are different is there a way to change it ? | 11:18 |
| arrrghhh | so what rhod | 11:18 |
| arrrghhh | i think that's rhod300? | 11:18 |
| arrrghhh | could be 100 i guess | 11:18 |
| Kenji | so its not a tilt2? | 11:19 |
| arrrghhh | well | 11:19 |
| arrrghhh | it could use that keymap | 11:20 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not sure | 11:20 |
| arrrghhh | the keymaps are a little confusing TBH | 11:20 |
| arrrghhh | what do you have yours set to, and what is not working? | 11:20 |
| Kenji | yea i got tp2 and the map is different than the tilt2 | 11:20 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 11:21 |
| Kenji | the keyboard works if i know where the numbers and symbols are lol | 11:21 |
| TheDeadCPU | dude | 11:22 |
| TheDeadCPU | pull out your battery and read on the sticker underneath. | 11:22 |
| TheDeadCPU | It should say something like rhod400 | 11:23 |
| arrrghhh | if he's on tmo | 11:23 |
| Kenji | oh.....ok...i'm a noodle excuse me lol | 11:23 |
| arrrghhh | it'll be a 100 or 300 | 11:23 |
| Kenji | thanks | 11:23 |
| arrrghhh | assuming it's from tmo lol | 11:23 |
| Kenji | yea | 11:23 |
| Kenji | 210 =D | 11:25 |
| arrrghhh | oh yea that's right | 11:25 |
| arrrghhh | tmo is 210 | 11:25 |
| * arrrghhh forgot about that one... | 11:26 | |
| arrrghhh | so set your keymap to rhod210 | 11:26 |
| Kenji | awesome | 11:28 |
| arrrghhh | works? | 11:29 |
| Kenji | booting | 11:29 |
| Kenji | yes. its working hahaha nice thanks dude | 11:30 |
| arrrghhh | helps when you set it up right :P | 11:30 |
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| xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Jonathan G., who says: Phenominal job! Froyo's awesome on my 210, and so is infrastructure WiFi (M$ didn't for Win 7?!?) | 12:05 |
| arrrghhh | more money for the coffers | 12:07 |
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| ftvm_DIAM100 | hello all | 12:21 |
| arrrghhh | what's up | 12:22 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | none | 12:23 |
| arrrghhh | ftvm_DIAM100: we have a new system image, i'd like you to try it. | 12:23 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | ah !!!!!!!!! | 12:24 |
| arrrghhh | you're on frx02 right now right? | 12:24 |
| arrrghhh | not blazn or any neopeek build right? | 12:24 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | i have frx02 yes | 12:25 |
| XirXes | is it actually a new system image or just that update.zip? | 12:25 |
| XirXes | cause I wanna try the update thing. sounds neat | 12:25 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | ok ... i download the entire system.ext2 | 12:26 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | is alright ??? | 12:26 |
| arrrghhh | well stine rolled an update | 12:26 |
| arrrghhh | but it failed for me | 12:26 |
| arrrghhh | you have to have a clean frx02 image to use the update. | 12:27 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know how he builds those either, i just built my own system.ext2 image from his repo,. | 12:27 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | mmmm ... i clean old system.ext2 and replace par this | 12:27 |
| XirXes | maybe he keeps the keys out of the repo so only he can roll them | 12:27 |
| XirXes | do you just put it in andboot or do you have to put it in a deeper folder | 12:29 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | ok ... please reading this ;) my files: system.ext2, zImage, rootfs, initrd, and haret and startup.txt | 12:29 |
| arrrghhh | why are you listing that ftvm_DIAM100 ? | 12:29 |
| arrrghhh | anyhoo, here's the linky | 12:30 |
| arrrghhh | http://www.multiupload.com/BWME4CP6UD | 12:30 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | for you know ... the good files | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | just rename it to system.ext2 & replace | 12:31 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | it's ok? | 12:31 |
| arrrghhh | ftvm_DIAM100: just listing the names of the files does me no good whatsoever. | 12:31 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | ok | 12:32 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | this is new system image ??? | 12:32 |
| XirXes | did he already commit the changes? | 12:33 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 12:34 |
| arrrghhh | hence the reason i was able to build a system image :P | 12:34 |
| arrrghhh | ftvm_DIAM100: yes indeed. replace your old one. | 12:34 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | ok ... i will tested immediately | 12:35 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | download in progress for me off course ! | 12:36 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | sorry | 12:36 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | of course .. | 12:36 |
| XirXes | I tested using the in call touch ui all day yesterday and i think that if that switch ever gets fliped in our builds we should come up with a way for it to only be used with devices with working prox sensors. | 12:37 |
| XirXes | I didnt have any issues but I can totally see them happening | 12:37 |
| arrrghhh | yea not sure we have prox sensor enabled yet | 12:37 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 12:37 |
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| XirXes | and for making that ui work on vga devices I may only have to remove one line from the xml that handles its layout but I havent had a chance to test it and see if it broke anything | 12:41 |
| arrrghhh | cool | 12:41 |
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| ftvm_DIAM100 | download always in progress for me ... | 12:46 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | with new image, i must delete data.img ... is obligation ? | 12:46 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:46 |
| arrrghhh | it's a big file | 12:46 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | you can move/rename it if you want | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | but it's a good idea to start with a new data.img | 12:47 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | not big ... but ... rapidshare is slow ... i have connexion adsl 20 M | 12:47 |
| arrrghhh | multiupload | 12:48 |
| arrrghhh | why didn't you download direct from multiupload... | 12:48 |
| arrrghhh | brb | 12:48 |
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| XirXes | that was my choice and I already finnished | 12:48 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | ok yes ... | 12:48 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | i start with new data.img and not overclock | 12:49 |
| TheDeadCPU | wu | 12:58 |
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| XirXes | sad. using the update.zip failed for me using frx02 | 13:09 |
| F22 | i didn't even try. mine isn't stock. | 13:11 |
| JesusFreak316 | stinebd released his first update.zip? | 13:19 |
| XirXes | its a test update. | 13:20 |
| JesusFreak316 | Where? xland? | 13:21 |
| XirXes | http://files.xdandroid.com/.NOT-FOR-RELEASE/update-FRX02-20101118.zip | 13:21 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh yeah, most new stuff is there now. | 13:21 |
| XirXes | you can give it a shot but it didnt work for arrrghhh or I | 13:22 |
| JesusFreak316 | Hmm. You both RHOD? | 13:22 |
| XirXes | yeah | 13:22 |
| JesusFreak316 | Isn't the purpose of this not to have to delete data.img? | 13:23 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh, and which update screwed up the backlight, zImage or rootfs? | 13:23 |
| XirXes | i believe so. I didnt delete the data.img i set up | 13:23 |
| XirXes | i dont know. my backlight seems fine. ill check and see which im out of date on | 13:24 |
| JesusFreak316 | It just screwed it up for RAPH and DIAM devices. | 13:24 |
| JesusFreak316 | FINE, I'll check the thread. :P | 13:25 |
| XirXes | lol | 13:25 |
| JesusFreak316 | Is the updating process different with update.zip? | 13:25 |
| JesusFreak316 | I know that's how real android devices work. | 13:25 |
| XirXes | it uses the actuall android updater. its pretty neat | 13:25 |
| XirXes | i think it just mounts system and possibly rootfs in rw and does its thing | 13:26 |
| JesusFreak316 | Thought so, how do we activate it? I think with Android devices you have to use the bootloader, but I could be wrong. | 13:26 |
| XirXes | just having the update.zip in andboot does it. init checks for it | 13:27 |
| JesusFreak316 | Ok, cool. What's in the update? | 13:27 |
| XirXes | jit disabled. some other stuff. stine went bug bashing last night | 13:28 |
| JesusFreak316 | What's wrong with jit? | 13:28 |
| JesusFreak316 | I've heard them talking about disbling it. | 13:28 |
| XirXes | i think its not compatible with msm7k | 13:29 |
| XirXes | the architecture its based on anyway | 13:29 |
| JesusFreak316 | But it seemed to work when they first released it. We got higher linpack scores. | 13:30 |
| XirXes | i think there thinking its a cause of our system instability | 13:30 |
| JesusFreak316 | Ah, that's what I figured. | 13:31 |
| XirXes | because the update isnt working for me and I wanna try it anyway i ended up building a new system myself | 13:32 |
| XirXes | which is booting now | 13:34 |
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| JesusFreak316 | Booting. | 13:36 |
| XirXes | gtg | 13:36 |
| uub11_ | Hey does anyone else notice that when you oveerclock the processor it never goes to the max but it always run super low? | 13:37 |
| JesusFreak316 | It goes all the way up for me. | 13:40 |
| uub11_ | it doesn't go all the way up unless i use the setcpu.apk to control it | 13:41 |
| uub11_ | i ended up setting it up so that the there was only max no minimum | 13:43 |
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| ftvm_DIAM100 | Sound stuttering of DIAM100: Here is a pure signal 1000 hz disturb by sound stutter | 13:52 |
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| ftvm_DIAM100 | http://www.nicedial.com/stuttering.wav | 13:53 |
| JesusFreak316 | I personally use overclock widget | 13:55 |
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| JesusFreak316 | Well, the update.zip hung when the bar got to the end but it successfully booted after a restart. How can I tell if it updated correctly? | 14:07 |
| stinebd | which update? | 14:16 |
| stinebd | last night? | 14:16 |
| JesusFreak316 | I guess, I just downloaded it a little while ago. | 14:20 |
| JesusFreak316 | http://files.xdandroid.com/.NOT-FOR-RELEASE/update-FRX02-20101118.zip | 14:21 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | what ??? | 14:26 |
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| arrrghhh | lol | 15:19 |
| arrrghhh | JesusFreak316: if it worked, jit will be disabled. | 15:19 |
| arrrghhh | ftvm_DIAM100: so that new system image, still stuttering sound eh? bummer. it was worth a shot tho. | 15:19 |
| JesusFreak316 | I know that, but how can I verify? linpack? | 15:22 |
| arrrghhh | logcat |grep -i jit | 15:23 |
| arrrghhh | if you get nothing, jit is disabled. | 15:23 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | hello all | 15:23 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | yes ... still stutering :( | 15:24 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | same message in logcat ... | 15:24 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | battery process etc ... | 15:24 |
| JesusFreak316 | Nope, still a stuff there. :/ | 15:24 |
| arrrghhh | ftvm_DIAM100: what kernel are you using? | 15:24 |
| JesusFreak316 | lol, a stuff. | 15:24 |
| arrrghhh | autobuild or that one i slung you? | 15:24 |
| arrrghhh | JesusFreak316: then jit is still enabled. | 15:24 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | last kernel | 15:25 |
| JesusFreak316 | Boo. | 15:25 |
| arrrghhh | autobuild? | 15:25 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | stuttering example ... with signal test 1000 hz | 15:25 |
| arrrghhh | JesusFreak316: http://www.multiupload.com/BWME4CP6UD | 15:25 |
| arrrghhh | i heard it | 15:25 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | http://www.nicedial.com/stuttering.wav | 15:25 |
| arrrghhh | damnit | 15:25 |
| arrrghhh | jim | 15:25 |
| arrrghhh | actually not that bad :P | 15:25 |
| arrrghhh | but yea, i have no clue dude. we're not specifically trying to fix this bug ATM, i just keep hoping the things we're doing will just fix it :P | 15:25 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | warning for your ear ... if you listen this ... | 15:25 |
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| ftvm_DIAM100 | ok ... always same problem read with adb | 15:39 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | and image loading is too long ... | 15:39 |
| JesusFreak316 | What is that system? The update incorporated into frx02? | 15:42 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | logcat -> W/BatteryStatsImpl( 1248): Couldn't get kernel wake lock stats | 15:47 |
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| eee_ | i'm bck | 15:49 |
| arrrghhh | JesusFreak316: i just linked you to frx03. | 15:50 |
| arrrghhh | has a few improvements, but the main one is disabled jit. | 15:50 |
| JesusFreak316 | ZOMG. | 15:50 |
| * JesusFreak316 feels too lazy to do Titanium Backup AGAIN. | 15:51 | |
| JesusFreak316 | It's all in the name of SCIENCE though. | 15:51 |
| * JesusFreak316 downloads. | 15:51 | |
| arrrghhh | oy ve. | 15:51 |
| arrrghhh | don't be whinin man | 15:51 |
| arrrghhh | i do all this testing crap on my ONLY phone | 15:51 |
| JesusFreak316 | lol true. | 15:51 |
| arrrghhh | kinda sucks sometimes. | 15:52 |
| arrrghhh | man it seems like google voice push isn't as fast as gmail push... | 15:52 |
| arrrghhh | i get texts on the phone, then a minute later or so i get a gv text. weird. | 15:52 |
| JesusFreak316 | It seemed pretty quick to me, but I can't tell since I only get GV texts. | 15:53 |
| arrrghhh | i guess a minute isn't that bad tho :P gmail just seems to be instanteous. | 15:53 |
| arrrghhh | instantaneous? yea. | 15:53 |
| arrrghhh | ah yea. i have to leave inbox notification on | 15:53 |
| arrrghhh | so i get 2 texts for every one :P | 15:53 |
| arrrghhh | kinda annoying, but otherwise i won't get txts if i go back to winmo. makes for a very angry gf at the end of the day hahaha | 15:54 |
| JesusFreak316 | :) | 15:54 |
| JesusFreak316 | Girlfriends, lol. :P | 15:54 |
| arrrghhh | indee | 15:54 |
| arrrghhh | d | 15:54 |
| arrrghhh | the crap we put up with haha | 15:54 |
| * JesusFreak316 is eating apple chips. mmm | 15:55 | |
| arrrghhh | i shouldn't say that, i love the girl. most of the time it's good. she just doesn't like me tinkering all the time... and that's what i do damnit! | 15:55 |
| JesusFreak316 | Haha, yeah. Good for you. | 15:55 |
| JesusFreak316 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=837751 should make it a little less painful. | 15:57 |
| JesusFreak316 | Updating, not having a gf. :) | 15:57 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:57 |
| JesusFreak316 | Eh, actually I think I'll just use androidapps folder. | 15:58 |
| arrrghhh | yea TB is a little painful if you have a lot of apps. | 15:58 |
| arrrghhh | do you just pull the APK's and drop them in AndroidApps? What do you do about the appdata? | 15:59 |
| JesusFreak316 | Especially if you're too cheap to buy the full version. | 15:59 |
| JesusFreak316 | I use titanium for the few apps that appdata really matters to me. | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | oic | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | that's cool | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | yea i keep thinking i should buy the full version | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | but as well all know, i'm a cheap bastard as well :P | 16:00 |
| JesusFreak316 | I did notice that something in titanium messes up my home key. | 16:00 |
| arrrghhh | weird... | 16:00 |
| JesusFreak316 | Gonna be more careful restoring this time. | 16:00 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 16:00 |
| arrrghhh | i just do the batch | 16:00 |
| JesusFreak316 | I REALLY wish there was a restore all appdata button. | 16:01 |
| JesusFreak316 | There's only all apps and appdata. | 16:01 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 16:03 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | hmmmmmmmmmm | 16:08 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | good application | 16:08 |
| JesusFreak316 | What application? | 16:09 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | SaveMyApp !!! | 16:09 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | this save profile also ??? | 16:10 |
| JesusFreak316 | Eh, I wouldn't use it. It's made for real android phones and I'm not sure how well it'd work for XDANDROID. | 16:14 |
| JesusFreak316 | Just use titanium for backups. | 16:14 |
| JesusFreak316 | I have too many apps... | 16:18 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | ah yes | 16:20 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | good | 16:20 |
| arrrghhh | titanium works well | 16:20 |
| arrrghhh | just kinda cumbersome if you have a lot of apps. as we were talkin 'bout earlier :P | 16:21 |
| JesusFreak316 | Pfft, who needs root explorer when you have adb shell? :) | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | yea, still don't know what took me so long to setup adb | 16:25 |
| arrrghhh | oh that reminds me, my freakin work PC doesn't work with adb anymore... i moved desks, and i'm pretty sure the usb cable is going in a different port now. | 16:25 |
| arrrghhh | for the life of me, i cannot get the drivers to install just says, cannot install this hardware basically. any ideas? | 16:25 |
| JesusFreak316 | OMG, you have to actually work at work now? | 16:25 |
| JesusFreak316 | You tried every usb port? | 16:25 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | i download on android market, one application for ... launch command shell | 16:25 |
| JesusFreak316 | Does this pc have different permissions? | 16:26 |
| JesusFreak316 | Can you install ANY unsigned drivers? | 16:26 |
| JesusFreak316 | speedfan for example? | 16:26 |
| arrrghhh | same pc | 16:30 |
| arrrghhh | haven't tried different ports | 16:30 |
| arrrghhh | i should be able to install anything... i'm an admin on the machine. | 16:30 |
| JesusFreak316 | I know rear ports are sometimes better. | 16:31 |
| arrrghhh | lol no i don't have to work at work, why do you think i'm on here all day :P | 16:31 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 16:31 |
| arrrghhh | i use a docking station @ work | 16:31 |
| JesusFreak316 | I know for low latency audio ports that's important. | 16:31 |
| arrrghhh | i can try the different usb ports | 16:31 |
| arrrghhh | just seemed like a stupid solution. man i hate windows. | 16:31 |
| JesusFreak316 | Lol, docking stations. | 16:31 |
| arrrghhh | yea... | 16:31 |
| JesusFreak316 | It's not windows, just crappy usb ports. | 16:31 |
| arrrghhh | my laptop doesn't have any ports really. | 16:31 |
| arrrghhh | uhm... in linux this wouldn't happen. | 16:31 |
| JesusFreak316 | You tried it? | 16:32 |
| arrrghhh | linux doesn't care what usb port you're plugged into, so long as you have the drivers. | 16:32 |
| JesusFreak316 | Never mind. :) | 16:32 |
| arrrghhh | no i just know how linux and windows treat usb ports :P | 16:32 |
| JesusFreak316 | Some things it just is hardware, guess not in your case. | 16:32 |
| arrrghhh | for whatever reason windows is convinced its never seen the hardware if it's a new usb port. | 16:32 |
| JesusFreak316 | You try uninstalling the driver then let it try reinstalling it? | 16:33 |
| arrrghhh | oh yea | 16:33 |
| arrrghhh | rebooting | 16:33 |
| arrrghhh | i even googled | 16:34 |
| arrrghhh | found some freakin guide where you had to remove some hidden drivers for it | 16:34 |
| arrrghhh | used some weird usbdriv tool or something. bah. | 16:34 |
| JesusFreak316 | Why don't you just install ubuntu in virtualbox? | 16:34 |
| arrrghhh | this is a laptop :P | 16:34 |
| JesusFreak316 | Works for me, though maybe only because I already have adb drivers in windows. | 16:34 |
| JesusFreak316 | Does it not have vt? | 16:35 |
| JesusFreak316 | I do everything on my laptop... | 16:35 |
| arrrghhh | yea my laptop at home is fine. but i always use the same usb port. | 16:35 |
| arrrghhh | yea but this is a work laptop. as in not very powerful. no vt. | 16:35 |
| arrrghhh | core2 duo w/2gb of ram. | 16:35 |
| JesusFreak316 | core2duo w/o vt? lame | 16:36 |
| JesusFreak316 | My old Pentium D had vt. | 16:36 |
| stinebd | i got one without vt | 16:36 |
| stinebd | but it also goes 9 hours on battery | 16:36 |
| stinebd | so i'm quite okay with it | 16:36 |
| JesusFreak316 | Well, that's excusable. | 16:36 |
| JesusFreak316 | ULV CPU? | 16:36 |
| stinebd | no | 16:37 |
| stinebd | which means it's not excusable | 16:37 |
| stinebd | because removing vt didn't affect battery life, surely | 16:37 |
| JesusFreak316 | What is it? | 16:37 |
| stinebd | asus u81a | 16:37 |
| JesusFreak316 | True. | 16:37 |
| stinebd | with t6500 i believe | 16:37 |
| JesusFreak316 | http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/asus-u81a-rx05-core/4505-3121_7-33712900.html | 16:37 |
| stinebd | 2.1ghz | 16:37 |
| stinebd | thats the one | 16:38 |
| stinebd | my favorite laptop so far | 16:38 |
| stinebd | contrary to that first review, it doesn't have a 12 cell battery | 16:39 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:39 |
| arrrghhh | i was going to say 12 cell wowsa | 16:39 |
| JesusFreak316 | http://www.amazon.com/Gateway-P-7908u-FX-17-Inch-Laptop/dp/B002QPWBY0 | 16:39 |
| JesusFreak316 | ^mine | 16:39 |
| arrrghhh | bleh @ gateway | 16:39 |
| stinebd | 17", desktop replacement? | 16:40 |
| JesusFreak316 | My brother had a 12 cell in his hp. | 16:40 |
| arrrghhh | nice rig tho. minus the 5400rpm hdd :P | 16:40 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yep. | 16:40 |
| stinebd | those hp 12 cells are humongous | 16:40 |
| JesusFreak316 | I'm gonna get another hdd then a bluray/ssd combo next year. | 16:40 |
| arrrghhh | yea they made the ass end of the laptop gigantic. looks like it would kinda help with typing tho. | 16:40 |
| stinebd | didn't for me | 16:40 |
| JesusFreak316 | This was the most reasonable laptop for the price. | 16:41 |
| stinebd | just made it really hurt my legs | 16:41 |
| arrrghhh | i still need to figure out what i want to replace my crappy alienware with. | 16:41 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:41 |
| JesusFreak316 | The battery probably helps with cooling though. | 16:41 |
| stinebd | you have all that weight on one point on your legs, not very comfortable | 16:41 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 16:41 |
| JesusFreak316 | I have soo many renamed data.img files on my sdcard, lol. | 16:44 |
| JesusFreak316 | Let's see how many gigs I can free up. | 16:45 |
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| arrrghhh | hahaha you're supposed to delete those when you discover that was the cause of your problems :P | 16:45 |
| stinebd | but they weren't the cause | 16:45 |
| stinebd | jit was the cause | 16:45 |
| arrrghhh | although, i noticed i had a bunch of renamed system.ext2 files from all that testing i was doing on the update utility lol | 16:45 |
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| arrrghhh | so let's close all the bugs on the bugtracker, yes? lol | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry didn't seem to happy that disabling jit was the final resolution lol | 16:46 |
| JesusFreak316 | I have a bunch of those too. syfem.ext2, system.ext2old, system.ext22 etc. | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | so can i start leaking frx03? are we waiting for anything? | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | i won't slaughter your server, i've mirrored it. | 16:47 |
| JesusFreak316 | Should I maybe try it before we release it? | 16:47 |
| arrrghhh | i thought you did? | 16:47 |
| JesusFreak316 | Just as one last check? | 16:47 |
| JesusFreak316 | Nah, still deleting data.img files. :) | 16:47 |
| arrrghhh | lol that was like an hour ago that i gave you that link. | 16:48 |
| JesusFreak316 | Well, first I slacked off, then backed up with titanium and adb shell, then started getting rid of all these files. | 16:48 |
| JesusFreak316 | Wait, actually first I rolled back to the 11/8/10 rootfs. | 16:48 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: i haven't even tagged it yet | 16:49 |
| arrrghhh | tagged it? | 16:50 |
| stinebd | frx03 | 16:50 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 16:50 |
| arrrghhh | that sounds... difficult... | 16:50 |
| stinebd | why? | 16:50 |
| arrrghhh | /sarcasm | 16:50 |
| JesusFreak316 | How do you do /sarcasm on irc? Put a space before? | 16:50 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 16:51 |
| stinebd | /say /sarcasm | 16:51 |
| arrrghhh | there's some way to escape i | 16:51 |
| arrrghhh | i thought there was another way too | 16:51 |
| JesusFreak316 | hi | 16:51 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 16:51 |
| JesusFreak316 | Wow, /say is pointless 99% of the time. :) | 16:51 |
| arrrghhh | basically. | 16:51 |
| JesusFreak316 | Lol, cleaned up almost a gig. | 16:53 |
| arrrghhh | eh you only had 4? :P | 16:54 |
| JesusFreak316 | I could sworn I had more but, eh who knows. | 16:54 |
| JesusFreak316 | I guess the 'puter does actually. :) | 16:55 |
| JesusFreak316 | Booting. | 16:55 |
| JesusFreak316 | Derp, forgot to rename data. Fail | 16:55 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: have you been able to get it to fail on new data image at all? | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | nope | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | honestly it didn't happen that frequently on rhod.... but still, haven't gotten one yet. | 16:56 |
| stinebd | at least one in five? | 16:57 |
| arrrghhh | no | 16:58 |
| arrrghhh | i couldn't reproduce it with a new data.img | 16:58 |
| arrrghhh | in fact on the rhod if you got a bootloop, the solution was to delete the data.img and boot again. | 16:58 |
| arrrghhh | it was real reproducible on the raph... but i never did really track down the cause of the issue. | 16:59 |
| JesusFreak316 | Well, let's see if I get one. | 16:59 |
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| JesusFreak316 | Wow, is it just me or is creating a data store quicker than it used to be? | 17:00 |
| arrrghhh | seemed just as slow as normal to me. | 17:00 |
| JesusFreak316 | It did it in about 15s for me. | 17:00 |
| arrrghhh | hm | 17:01 |
| arrrghhh | i never really timed it | 17:01 |
| arrrghhh | the longest part for me on first boot is the boot anim | 17:02 |
| JesusFreak316 | Neither did I but it just seemed faster. | 17:02 |
| JesusFreak316 | True. | 17:02 |
| JesusFreak316 | Okay, done booting. | 17:03 |
| JesusFreak316 | it's amazing what a difference launcherpro makes over the stock launcher; I notice that every time I update to a new system. | 17:04 |
| arrrghhh | in what way? | 17:05 |
| JesusFreak316 | Just speed. | 17:05 |
| arrrghhh | LP is faster? | 17:05 |
| arrrghhh | hm | 17:05 |
| JesusFreak316 | Though part of the reason I typed that was because it was apparently still loading. :P Stock launcher is faster than it was at first, lol. | 17:06 |
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| ftvm_DIAM100 | for you ... the loading is long or short ??? with new release ??? | 17:16 |
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| xdandroid | arrrghhh changed the Status on bug 10 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. | 17:18 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10 normal, Normal, ---, developers, RESOLVED FIXED, Home/ Back Buttons don't work | 17:18 |
| JesusFreak316 | Huh, Droid Explorer's also a really nice way to resume after an update. I didn't know previously that it had root access. | 17:20 |
| arrrghhh | kinda needs it... | 17:20 |
| xdandroid | arrrghhh changed the Status on bug 46 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. | 17:21 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=46 normal, Normal, ---, developers, RESOLVED FIXED, Battery charging with 2.2.1 | 17:21 |
| xdandroid | arrrghhh marked bug 13 as a duplicate of bug 47. | 17:22 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13 major, Normal, ---, developers, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, The device awakes from sleep and is ready for use, but the screen doesn't turn on. | 17:22 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=47 critical, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Nearly impossibe to wake the device | 17:22 |
| JesusFreak316 | It DOES have root access. | 17:22 |
| arrrghhh | yea i would think it needs it.. | 17:22 |
| xdandroid | arrrghhh changed the Status on bug 47 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. | 17:23 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh, I thought you were saying it sucks that it doesn't. | 17:23 |
| arrrghhh | no | 17:23 |
| arrrghhh | sorry :P' | 17:23 |
| arrrghhh | i just said kinda needs it in all the bugclosing madness. | 17:23 |
| JesusFreak316 | lol | 17:23 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. i think that's all the damage i can do today. | 17:23 |
| JesusFreak316 | It does seem really smooth. | 17:24 |
| JesusFreak316 | That could just be 'cause I don't have my usual >9000 apps installed yet. | 17:25 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 17:25 |
| arrrghhh | for me, it continues to be smooth. i'm just amazed at how many bugs are fixed just by disabling jit. | 17:25 |
| arrrghhh | seems like it was WAY more trouble than it's worth. | 17:25 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah, how many things actually benefit from jit for us? | 17:26 |
| JesusFreak316 | wasn't flash one of the big ones? | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | flash? | 17:29 |
| arrrghhh | i don't believe jit has anything to do with flash. | 17:29 |
| arrrghhh | the benefits of jit in the beginning were slim | 17:29 |
| JesusFreak316 | I heard it helped performance. | 17:29 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 17:29 |
| arrrghhh | on architectures optimized to use it. | 17:30 |
| JesusFreak316 | Unlike ours. :) | 17:30 |
| arrrghhh | the thought process probably was - jit is supposed to speed things up - our port is slow - enable jit! | 17:30 |
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| arrrghhh | indeed | 17:30 |
| JesusFreak316 | Pretty much. | 17:30 |
| JesusFreak316 | One oddity, probably just related to titanium, but titanium keeps warning me that I have unknown applications unchecked when I don't. | 17:33 |
| arrrghhh | weird | 17:33 |
| arrrghhh | i had it tell me once, because it was unchecked lol | 17:34 |
| JesusFreak316 | It's always unchecked with a fresh install. | 17:34 |
| JesusFreak316 | Probably a good decision on Google's part. | 17:34 |
| arrrghhh | covering their asses. | 17:35 |
| JesusFreak316 | But that's how it should be; make it locked down and secure for the unwashed masses who don't know what an apk is but allow power users access to everything. | 17:35 |
| emwe | somebodys cleaning bugs in preparation for release, eh? ;) | 17:37 |
| JesusFreak316 | It IS released. | 17:37 |
| JesusFreak316 | :) | 17:37 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 17:37 |
| arrrghhh | not really | 17:37 |
| JesusFreak316 | http://www.multiupload.com/BWME4CP6UD | 17:38 |
| JesusFreak316 | Well, it's downloadable at least. | 17:38 |
| JesusFreak316 | :) | 17:38 |
| emwe | heh | 17:38 |
| emwe | in the NOT_FOR_RELEASE folder ;) | 17:38 |
| arrrghhh | yea, not really an official release yet. still tagged frx02. i noticed that when building. | 17:38 |
| JesusFreak316 | lol | 17:38 |
| emwe | what was the motivation for disabling jit? anybody some insight? | 17:38 |
| JesusFreak316 | SO YOU MEAN I HAVE TO DO THIS ALL OVER AGAIN WHEN OFFICIAL FRX03 COMES OUT??!! FUUUUU!!! HNNNGGGG | 17:39 |
| JesusFreak316 | Hopefully stinebd will get his update.zip working by then actually. :) | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | haha it works | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | but you MUST have a clean frx02 image. | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | no you won't have to do it all over again, unless the frx02 tag bothers you haha | 17:40 |
| JesusFreak316 | Well, that kinda defeats the purpose then doesn't it? | 17:40 |
| arrrghhh | not really, most should have a clean frx02 image. | 17:40 |
| JesusFreak316 | I'm OCD, remember? | 17:40 |
| arrrghhh | only schlubs like me that do testing should have a mucked up image. | 17:40 |
| arrrghhh | then suck it up | 17:40 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh, you mean the system.ext2 not the data.img? | 17:40 |
| arrrghhh | emwe: so i was trying to track down a bug | 17:40 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 17:41 |
| JesusFreak316 | Mines clean though... | 17:41 |
| arrrghhh | emwe: the volume rocker reboot bug... | 17:41 |
| JesusFreak316 | Huh. | 17:41 |
| arrrghhh | JesusFreak316: then the update.zip should work just fine for you., | 17:41 |
| JesusFreak316 | Well, I don't need it now, do I? | 17:41 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: and by disabling jit it doesn't reboot anymore? | 17:41 |
| arrrghhh | emwe: stinebd asked me to disable JIT because he said it hid the error. lo and behold, with jit disabled we couldn't reproduce the issue. | 17:41 |
| arrrghhh | indeed. | 17:41 |
| arrrghhh | JesusFreak316: uhm... no? i dunno. | 17:42 |
| emwe | but wasn't disabling jit in the props file causing extreme slowness? | 17:42 |
| JesusFreak316 | So, is your system.ext2 FRX02 with stinebd's update.zip applied? | 17:42 |
| emwe | or did you disable it in the buildspec? | 17:42 |
| emwe | how does it perform? | 17:42 |
| arrrghhh | JesusFreak316: no | 17:42 |
| emwe | time to build a new image on my own i guess.... | 17:43 |
| JesusFreak316 | REALLY well for me so far. | 17:43 |
| arrrghhh | i built my own system image, the one you downloaded. | 17:43 |
| JesusFreak316 | So then what is it? | 17:43 |
| arrrghhh | emwe: works really well. it's disabled in the build.prop | 17:43 |
| arrrghhh | what is it...? | 17:43 |
| arrrghhh | a built system image from my server... what do you mean? | 17:43 |
| JesusFreak316 | So if your build is FRX03 then what was stinebd's update.zip? Bug fixes? | 17:43 |
| arrrghhh | no | 17:44 |
| arrrghhh | they're the same... | 17:44 |
| arrrghhh | his update.zip would bring frx02 up to frx03 | 17:44 |
| arrrghhh | instead of distributing an entire new system image for frx03. | 17:44 |
| JesusFreak316 | That's what I was saying. | 17:44 |
| JesusFreak316 | Ok, thought so. | 17:44 |
| JesusFreak316 | I needed to start fresh anyways. | 17:44 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: was build.prop the runtime setting? IIRC when i disabled it, rebooted, it was slow as hell. and with building my own... i don't wan't so screw my data img with an official build (with official keys) that's why i build the system.img on my own without screwing my data.img | 17:45 |
| JesusFreak316 | Lack of a home key was getting annoying. Multitasking sucks with only the end button set as home. | 17:45 |
| arrrghhh | emwe: yea when i disabled it manually it was really slow. | 17:46 |
| JesusFreak316 | This is most definitely NOT slow. :D | 17:46 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: ok, so you disabled it in buildspec, built an image and all is up to par again, yes? | 17:46 |
| arrrghhh | emwe: honestly stine did the magic | 17:48 |
| arrrghhh | i just built the image off of his repo,. | 17:48 |
| JesusFreak316 | arrrghhh, building monkey, eh? | 17:48 |
| emwe | i see. | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | building and bug monkey. | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | JesusFreak316: you're benefitting from it, aren't you? :P | 17:49 |
| JesusFreak316 | Not complaining at all. :) | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 17:49 |
| JesusFreak316 | Soo, are we ever going to map something to the ptt button on the Fuze? | 17:50 |
| JesusFreak316 | Preferably made it an assignable hotkey. | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | not all phones have it tho | 17:50 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah, but it's nice for those who do. Is it not possible to make it only apply to the Fuze? | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | maybe | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | i think it's waiting for camera | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | what else would you want it for? | 17:51 |
| JesusFreak316 | Well, something else until camera comes | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | hack up the rootfs then. | 17:51 |
| JesusFreak316 | Is Wistilt and his team of monkeys messing with the libs? | 17:52 |
| JesusFreak316 | Or was it bzo? | 17:52 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 17:52 |
| emwe | it's become quite calm in htc-linux regarding some developments for our old devices, no? | 17:52 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yep. :/ | 17:53 |
| emwe | i don't really have something new to report either. | 17:53 |
| * JesusFreak316 is glad for his HD2 for Christmas. :) | 17:53 | |
| arrrghhh | bummer | 17:54 |
| JesusFreak316 | So, what all did disabling jit fix? | 17:54 |
| emwe | hd2 ... what was that again... it's not hd 7 no? | 17:54 |
| arrrghhh | everything | 17:54 |
| arrrghhh | no | 17:54 |
| arrrghhh | hd2 is the last great winmob phone | 17:54 |
| arrrghhh | well | 17:54 |
| arrrghhh | there's a couple others i guess. | 17:54 |
| emwe | so many freaking new phones around | 17:54 |
| JesusFreak316 | It's the hd7 if the hd7 was good. :) | 17:54 |
| arrrghhh | lol the hd7 came out after it, how can you say that | 17:54 |
| JesusFreak316 | Because the hd7 is mostly a nerfed hd2 imo. | 17:55 |
| arrrghhh | i thought the proc was newer | 17:55 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 17:55 |
| arrrghhh | haven't really looked into it | 17:55 |
| arrrghhh | neither phone appeal to me. | 17:55 |
| JesusFreak316 | Nope. | 17:55 |
| JesusFreak316 | All wp7 devices have qsd8250. | 17:55 |
| JesusFreak316 | wp77 has 720p recording but that's being worked on for hd2 anyways. | 17:56 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh, and my t-mobile hd2 has 1Gb rom as opposed to the hd7 512. | 17:57 |
| JesusFreak316 | Somehow the t-mobile hd2 is better than the international version. | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:58 |
| emwe | ah eh... when i hear HD i never think of blackstone but leo. but leo is HD2 .... | 18:02 |
| F22 | jesusfreak: what would you like your ptt button assigned as? | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | F22 is taking requests evidently. | 18:02 |
| JesusFreak316 | Is it at all possible to make it a softkey? | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | i'd like it to be an instant bacon button. like give me bacon INSTANTLY | 18:02 |
| JesusFreak316 | If not let me think. | 18:02 |
| F22 | lol | 18:03 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | what update-FRX02-20101118 ???? | 18:03 |
| F22 | i'm working with pohket and getting the rhod ptt key working. | 18:03 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | this put in the root of android ??? | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | meh | 18:03 |
| F22 | on getting | 18:03 |
| JesusFreak316 | What'd they set it as? | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | ftvm_DIAM100: what are you talking about | 18:03 |
| F22 | for the moment we're setting it as search. | 18:03 |
| JesusFreak316 | The update.zip file from earlier. | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | you already downloaded frx03, why would you want to update it... | 18:03 |
| JesusFreak316 | oh | 18:04 |
| arrrghhh | yea but he already grabbed my image. | 18:04 |
| F22 | we need to test the scan code for it. | 18:04 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | yes ... update.zip | 18:04 |
| F22 | ofr the rhod, that is. but for the raph i believe it's already confirmed. | 18:04 |
| JesusFreak316 | ftvm_DIAM100: No need if you already updated to FRX03. | 18:04 |
| F22 | so for the raph, it's just a matter of assigning it to something. | 18:05 |
| JesusFreak316 | hmm | 18:05 |
| JesusFreak316 | Search might be nice. | 18:05 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | ok thanx jesus ... | 18:05 |
| arrrghhh | yea there's some apps that use it | 18:05 |
| arrrghhh | why do the foreigners always listen to you JesusFreak316... | 18:06 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 18:06 |
| JesusFreak316 | Because I'm nice. | 18:06 |
| JesusFreak316 | :) | 18:06 |
| F22 | lol | 18:06 |
| arrrghhh | LIES | 18:06 |
| arrrghhh | i'm nice. | 18:06 |
| arrrghhh | just not when people act st00pid. | 18:06 |
| JesusFreak316 | LIES, no you're not. | 18:06 |
| arrrghhh | i was nice to him. | 18:06 |
| JesusFreak316 | You ALWAYS think people act st00pid. | 18:06 |
| arrrghhh | well they need to all stop acting st00pid. | 18:06 |
| JesusFreak316 | So, F22, do you or do you not need the scan code? | 18:06 |
| F22 | i believe we have it for the raph. it's 169. | 18:08 |
| F22 | i have no way to confirm that myself however. | 18:08 |
| F22 | if you want to check it with getevent...you're welcome to do so. | 18:08 |
| F22 | i'd be particularly interested in knowing what hardware it's attached to, if it's microp like on the rhod. | 18:09 |
| F22 | if so it doesn't belong in the navi_pad file where it is now. | 18:09 |
| JesusFreak316 | Just tell me what to do. | 18:10 |
| F22 | do you have adb? | 18:11 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yep. | 18:11 |
| JesusFreak316 | Huh, holding down ptt brings up camera. | 18:12 |
| JesusFreak316 | Good to know for the future. | 18:12 |
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| F22 | so it already works. | 18:21 |
| F22 | it's just a matter of reassigning it | 18:21 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yep. | 18:21 |
| XirXes | whats the repo command for doing a clean sync? | 18:22 |
| F22 | repo sync :P that will toss all your local commits. | 18:23 |
| XirXes | thats what i thought. something must have gone wrong on my end earlier | 18:23 |
| F22 | JesusFreak316: you have a fuze? | 18:25 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yep. | 18:25 |
| F22 | ok, i'm going to do something similar for the fuze that i'm doing for the rhod. i'll make a a command line option to assign the ptt button to search. if you ever want to try out the camera again after they get it working, you can just remove that from your startup.txt. | 18:27 |
| arrrghhh | F22: are you going to commit this ever? :P | 18:27 |
| arrrghhh | or at least some of the pieces. | 18:27 |
| arrrghhh | giant commits are usually a bad idea... | 18:28 |
| F22 | i have two small pieces waiting on approval | 18:28 |
| arrrghhh | ah ok | 18:28 |
| JesusFreak316 | Is there no way to make a short tap search but a long tap camera? | 18:28 |
| arrrghhh | yea stine's been busy lately... may have to prod him again next week. | 18:28 |
| F22 | all told, right now we're looking at 4 commits, 2 to system which have already been sent, and 2 to rootfs. | 18:29 |
| arrrghhh | ok this has always bugged me. i don't know what changed, but when i go to google voice to send a text, i have to click on the input box | 18:29 |
| arrrghhh | i want the damn input box to be highlighted by default so i can just start typing | 18:29 |
| arrrghhh | i swear it used to do this, what could've possibly changed? | 18:29 |
| XirXes | it should logically select it when you start typing | 18:30 |
| arrrghhh | XirXes: nope. | 18:30 |
| XirXes | i wasnt saying it does it that way. just that it makes more sense that way. a lot of things in android handle typing that way | 18:31 |
| arrrghhh | well the thing that baffles me | 18:31 |
| arrrghhh | is i KNOW it used to select it by default. | 18:31 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder if it was a BLAZN thing.... i don't see why tho. | 18:32 |
| XirXes | I agree. the gv app got updated recently | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | hrm let me see if regular messaging does it. | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | shit it does. | 18:32 |
| XirXes | I would love if someone made a gv app for winmo | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | seems like it is a GV thing after all... | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | there's a few | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | but they all suck in one way or another. | 18:33 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah, it'd be nice to not have to boot into android to send a text. | 18:33 |
| XirXes | ill look for one that handles texting like the android client | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | yea... i'm trying to think of which one i liked best | 18:34 |
| arrrghhh | gvdial? | 18:34 |
| arrrghhh | no. | 18:34 |
| arrrghhh | what was it... | 18:34 |
| JesusFreak316 | Texting's all I need since you need a phone plan when calling. | 18:34 |
| arrrghhh | it's been a long time since i messed with them tho. | 18:34 |
| arrrghhh | you can text without a phone plan? | 18:34 |
| arrrghhh | oh wait nvm lol | 18:34 |
| XirXes | yeah | 18:34 |
| arrrghhh | gv right. | 18:34 |
| JesusFreak316 | gv call free? | 18:34 |
| arrrghhh | sip | 18:34 |
| arrrghhh | not in winmo | 18:34 |
| stinebd | damnit emwe left | 18:34 |
| JesusFreak316 | Are there any good winmo sip apps? | 18:35 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't think any existed. | 18:35 |
| stinebd | if he comes in again asking about jit, we disabled it via build.prop, not the buildspec. it's still enabled in the vm, but its usage is disabled by default. | 18:35 |
| arrrghhh | dunno. you're in #xdandroid tho :P | 18:35 |
| JesusFreak316 | Very true. :) | 18:35 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd: i told him it was disabled in the build.prop. | 18:35 |
| arrrghhh | i wouldn't believe me either tho. | 18:36 |
| stinebd | you told him that you did it that was for testing | 18:36 |
| stinebd | that way* | 18:36 |
| stinebd | [17:45:18] <emwe> arrrghhh: was build.prop the runtime setting? IIRC when i disabled it, rebooted, it was slow as hell. and with building my own... i don't wan't so screw my data img with an official build (with official keys) that's why i build the system.img on my own without screwing my data.img | 18:37 |
| stinebd | [17:46:19] <arrrghhh> emwe: yea when i disabled it manually it was really slow. | 18:37 |
| stinebd | [17:46:45] <emwe> arrrghhh: ok, so you disabled it in buildspec, built an image and all is up to par again, yes? | 18:37 |
| stinebd | [17:48:38] <arrrghhh> emwe: honestly stine did the magic | 18:37 |
| stinebd | unless i missed something there | 18:37 |
| arrrghhh | well | 18:37 |
| arrrghhh | i thought i told him you disabled it in the build.propp | 18:38 |
| arrrghhh | maybe that conversation occurred in my head. | 18:38 |
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| arrrghhh | <arrrghhh> emwe: works really well. it's disabled in the build.prop | 18:39 |
| arrrghhh | there i did! | 18:39 |
| XirXes | lol | 18:39 |
| TheDeadCPU | wut | 18:40 |
| stinebd | well he's german, he was probably drunk | 18:40 |
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| XirXes | I feel like my machine doesn't take ages to build system | 18:44 |
| stinebd | any objections to rolling frx03 officially? | 18:44 |
| arrrghhh | do eeeeet | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | we certainly haven't tested all devices | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | but we've tested a pretty good cross-section | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | i've been running it all day, freakin awesome. | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | little browsing, 20 or so texts... battery still at 82% :D | 18:46 |
| arrrghhh | i keep waking it up to make sure it still responds. very quick. | 18:46 |
| XirXes | i still have little faith in my battery meter | 18:46 |
| JesusFreak316 | Seemes good to me. | 18:46 |
| arrrghhh | XirXes: in winmo or android? lol | 18:46 |
| XirXes | I went back to winmo yesterday and it said 3% where android had said something like 25% | 18:47 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 18:47 |
| arrrghhh | not sure which is lying more | 18:47 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps in the very low ranges android needs some touchups. | 18:48 |
| XirXes | my bets towards android. iv fully drained mine twice since the new code | 18:48 |
| TheDeadCPU | stinebd, what did I do earlier? oO you said something about me and Slashdot | 18:48 |
| XirXes | like wont turn on drained | 18:48 |
| stinebd | TheDeadCPU: i was being facetious | 18:48 |
| stinebd | you know i love you baby | 18:49 |
| TheDeadCPU | stinebd, aww<3 | 18:49 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | hello all | 18:51 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | what process system server please ??? | 18:51 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | 1781 1776 1000 S 196m192.7 0 21.7 system_server | 18:51 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 18:51 |
| arrrghhh | it's a main system process | 18:52 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | 21.7 % cpu sometimes | 18:52 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | ah | 18:52 |
| arrrghhh | yea, it was pegging my processor to 99% yesterday. | 18:52 |
| XirXes | is there newer versions of the kernel being played with at all? | 18:52 |
| arrrghhh | XirXes: WisTilt's stuff. | 18:52 |
| JesusFreak316 | Isn't stinebd working on the fb for it? | 18:52 |
| stinebd | no | 18:52 |
| arrrghhh | fb? | 18:52 |
| arrrghhh | framebuffer? | 18:52 |
| XirXes | i mean like kernel version as in 32 or 35? | 18:52 |
| arrrghhh | that's jonpry & acl. | 18:52 |
| JesusFreak316 | What's your framebuffer stuff for? | 18:52 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | ok ... | 18:52 |
| arrrghhh | XirXes: same. | 18:53 |
| arrrghhh | jonpry & acl are working on 35. | 18:53 |
| stinebd | i don't have framebuffer stuff | 18:53 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh, I get confused. :P | 18:53 |
| JesusFreak316 | SOMEONE's working on a framebuffer. | 18:53 |
| arrrghhh | yes. | 18:53 |
| JesusFreak316 | jonpry and acl like you said earlier? | 18:54 |
| JesusFreak316 | Isn't that for updating to the newest linux kernel? | 18:54 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | I was looking for a cause related sound stuttering | 18:54 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | i examine all process and our activity | 18:54 |
| arrrghhh | ftvm_DIAM100: this is really consuming you isn't it. | 18:54 |
| arrrghhh | JesusFreak316: yes. | 18:54 |
| JesusFreak316 | Ok then. | 18:55 |
| XirXes | i want to see if my desire z image boots with that at some point. it gets to the point where it starts the bootanim but doesnt quite make it. services manager dies a few times then it reboots to recovery | 18:55 |
| arrrghhh | most of the codebase is in .29 as i understand it. if we can get up to 35 we'll have all sorts of new goodies to play with. | 18:55 |
| JesusFreak316 | Desire Z image on OUR hardware? | 18:55 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | yes arghhhhhhh | 18:55 |
| XirXes | its only an 800 mhz phone | 18:55 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:56 |
| arrrghhh | it's a snapdragon proc tho | 18:56 |
| arrrghhh | underclocked | 18:56 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | but ... i look process system server to 71 % | 18:56 |
| ftvm_DIAM100 | in listening music only ... | 18:56 |
| arrrghhh | ftvm_DIAM100: i've seen it steal 99% of the processor utilization. | 18:56 |
| XirXes | yeah. the instuction set not being up to date worries me | 18:56 |
| XirXes | but other than that im comfortable with giving it a shot | 18:57 |
| JesusFreak316 | It's not just any snapdragon either; it's the newer version which at 800mhz is still faster then than HD2's qsd8250 at 1ghz. | 18:57 |
| arrrghhh | eh i guess it's worth tryin. can't hurt. | 18:57 |
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| ftvm_DIAM100 | yes ... it's normal in some cases, I think | 18:57 |
| XirXes | i just feel that it would be neat | 18:58 |
| JesusFreak316 | It would be. | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 18:58 |
| TheDeadCPU | Wait. | 18:58 |
| JesusFreak316 | Though I'll just be using it on my hd2 thank you very much. | 18:58 |
| * JesusFreak316 rubs it in. | 18:58 | |
| TheDeadCPU | Isn't [acl] working on getting the Desire Z rom onto the TP2 ? | 18:58 |
| * XirXes flips off JesusFreak316 | 18:58 | |
| JesusFreak316 | lol | 18:58 |
| arrrghhh | meh it's not like it's being used as a phone. | 18:59 |
| JesusFreak316 | So, it's still fun. | 18:59 |
| arrrghhh | TheDeadCPU: erm... not really. | 18:59 |
| TheDeadCPU | arrrghhh, oh.. I thought he was | 18:59 |
| XirXes | i think it would be worth at least stealing the desire z/g2 wifi driver for the tp2 | 18:59 |
| arrrghhh | he's working on the cp framebuffer. evidently the samsung phones use it... | 18:59 |
| arrrghhh | what's wrong with our wifi? | 19:00 |
| XirXes | its also the bluetooth and its the exact same chip | 19:00 |
| XirXes | if it could make bluetooth work its deff worth investigation. | 19:01 |
| arrrghhh | well | 19:01 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 19:01 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 19:01 |
| arrrghhh | i still feel that's a userland issue... | 19:01 |
| XirXes | the more I learn about the tp2 the more i learn its frankenstien | 19:01 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:02 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 19:02 |
| XirXes | wistil2 was saying that the mic chip is the same as the nexus. not that it surprises me | 19:02 |
| * XirXes redacts his statement about building speed | 19:05 | |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 19:05 |
| XirXes | my source tree got fubard somehow. I deleted it and pulled it again | 19:06 |
| arrrghhh | ouch | 19:06 |
| arrrghhh | lol my name is in the build number. | 19:07 |
| arrrghhh | i feel special. it's probably just the username that i used to build the image, but still :P | 19:07 |
| XirXes | yeah. i dont even know what was up but it produced a working image in like an 8th of the time | 19:07 |
| JesusFreak316 | Just had a near sod. | 19:08 |
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| XirXes | the build was having a lot of force quits tho | 19:08 |
| JesusFreak316 | logcat keeps saying, "CPU may be pegged. trying again." | 19:09 |
| arrrghhh | near SOD doesn't count. almost never counts | 19:09 |
| arrrghhh | except in horseshoes and hand grenades. | 19:09 |
| arrrghhh | i don't see why it counts in horseshoes tho... | 19:09 |
| JesusFreak316 | Well the sreen popped up halfway and isn't coming any further. | 19:09 |
| JesusFreak316 | Well, it came out finally but now the capacitive keys aren't responding. Meh. | 19:10 |
| stinebd | stupid ****ing repo | 19:11 |
| XirXes | ? | 19:11 |
| JesusFreak316 | Wasn't there talk of creating a script to reinitialize that driver? | 19:11 |
| TheDeadCPU | You nearly had Stormtroopers of Death ? | 19:13 |
| arrrghhh | lame. | 19:13 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 19:16 |
| TheDeadCPU | I'ma sleep. Gnite ppl. | 19:17 |
| arrrghhh | g'inte | 19:17 |
| arrrghhh | er | 19:17 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 19:17 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd: for the frx03 update are you just going to do the update.zip, or both .zip and the full image? | 19:17 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: have to do both | 19:17 |
| stinebd | hopefully the majority of users will do the ota | 19:18 |
| TheDeadCPU | We have ota? | 19:19 |
| stinebd | sorta | 19:19 |
| XirXes | i thought you were going to be | 19:19 |
| XirXes | d | 19:19 |
| stinebd | http://southcape.org/2010/10/29/moving-towards-over-the-air-updates/ | 19:19 |
| XirXes | I dont even know what to say about this thing. http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/18/itg-xpphone-on-sale-at-long-last/ | 19:22 |
| stinebd | i'll take 8 | 19:22 |
| arrrghhh | xp embedded? | 19:22 |
| arrrghhh | bleh | 19:23 |
| XirXes | think of all the linux you can put on that thing | 19:23 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:23 |
| arrrghhh | you can pay $666 and get DOS installed instead of Windows. sounds very... useful? | 19:23 |
| arrrghhh | and evil. | 19:23 |
| XirXes | i think there trying to pitch this thing for mobile games | 19:23 |
| JesusFreak316 | What IS xp embedded? | 19:24 |
| XirXes | dos has games i guess | 19:24 |
| JesusFreak316 | Is it still x86? | 19:24 |
| XirXes | yes | 19:25 |
| XirXes | its not ce | 19:25 |
| arrrghhh | it's xp optimized for embedded environments... | 19:25 |
| arrrghhh | like kiosk setups? | 19:25 |
| XirXes | i just checked wiki | 19:25 |
| JesusFreak316 | Huh, never heard of it. | 19:25 |
| arrrghhh | you are not much of a nerd, are you. | 19:25 |
| JesusFreak316 | Well... | 19:26 |
| XirXes | wow, its minimum size requirements are 32 mb | 19:26 |
| JesusFreak316 | O.o | 19:26 |
| XirXes | ram and storage | 19:26 |
| arrrghhh | http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/18/motorola-defy-review/ | 19:26 |
| arrrghhh | i love that pic | 19:26 |
| JesusFreak316 | How does 32mb work with xp? | 19:26 |
| arrrghhh | a phone on dunked in a cup | 19:26 |
| JesusFreak316 | lol | 19:26 |
| JesusFreak316 | I love engadget. | 19:27 |
| XirXes | same | 19:27 |
| arrrghhh | JesusFreak316: xp embedded. i believe the kernel is different. | 19:27 |
| stinebd | god damn you repo | 19:27 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah, but it's not the kernel that takes up so much space. | 19:27 |
| JesusFreak316 | Isn't a standard xp install ~2GB? | 19:27 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 19:27 |
| stinebd | release delayed until april | 19:27 |
| stinebd | because repo screwed itself up and i have to resync the project tree | 19:27 |
| stinebd | and it's going like 150KB/s | 19:28 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:28 |
| XirXes | GAAAAY | 19:28 |
| arrrghhh | my build enviro should be good. | 19:28 |
| arrrghhh | do you just need to tag as frx03 and build/release? | 19:28 |
| stinebd | no | 19:28 |
| stinebd | also sign and generate a valid ota | 19:28 |
| arrrghhh | meh | 19:29 |
| arrrghhh | you can take care of that :P | 19:29 |
| stinebd | well considering you don't have the private keys, i suppose i can | 19:29 |
| XirXes | hooray my build finnished | 19:29 |
| JesusFreak316 | Your build is from Finland? | 19:30 |
| stinebd | finnished. | 19:30 |
| stinebd | my build swedished | 19:30 |
| JesusFreak316 | End crappy puns. | 19:30 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh's build japanesed | 19:30 |
| stinebd | sooooo slowwww | 19:31 |
| arrrghhh | zing? | 19:31 |
| XirXes | goddamnit. after getting my tree fixed i forgot to extract the g apps. | 19:32 |
| XirXes | fail | 19:32 |
| arrrghhh | hahahaha | 19:32 |
| JesusFreak316 | No sdcard mounting issues yet thankfully. That was annoying before. | 19:34 |
| XirXes | the unzip script needs to be updated. the new g apps package is http://cyanogenmod-mirror.local.host.name/gapps/gapps-hdpi-20101114-signed.zip | 19:39 |
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| arrrghhh | crap | 19:40 |
| arrrghhh | does that mean my build is outdated? :P | 19:40 |
| XirXes | YES | 19:40 |
| stinebd | XirXes: that won't be in frx03 | 19:41 |
| stinebd | i already pushed the manifest | 19:41 |
| arrrghhh | so i win | 19:41 |
| stinebd | ugh 76KB/s | 19:41 |
| stinebd | ridiculous | 19:41 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 19:41 |
| TheDeadCPU | wth | 19:41 |
| XirXes | im only pointing it out cause the old hdpi file is gone. causing the script to error out | 19:41 |
| arrrghhh | cya in april stinebd | 19:41 |
| * TheDeadCPU hates it when dls go under 1mb/s | 19:42 | |
| arrrghhh | TheDeadCPU is sleep chatting. | 19:43 |
| TheDeadCPU | maybe. | 19:43 |
| stinebd | if you're staying up waiting for the release, don't bother | 19:43 |
| TheDeadCPU | wut | 19:43 |
| TheDeadCPU | release? | 19:43 |
| XirXes | that script is done properly. making me very happy. just opened it and updated the filename and it just works | 19:44 |
| arrrghhh | frx03 | 19:44 |
| TheDeadCPU | oh | 19:44 |
| stinebd | i spent weeks on the design of that script | 19:44 |
| TheDeadCPU | I don't even have my RAPH close | 19:44 |
| XirXes | stinebd, well its appreciated | 19:45 |
| stinebd | actually i did the script itself in about 2 minutes | 19:45 |
| stinebd | it took weeks to find a good url because the mirrors kept changing every hour | 19:45 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:45 |
| TheDeadCPU | arrrghhh, COME BACK | 19:48 |
| XirXes | is it only the first build supposed to be slow? build number 2 went fast | 19:48 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 19:48 |
| XirXes | arrrghhh: when you hold vol up when you power on your device does the led blink green? | 19:52 |
| arrrghhh | lmao wtf? | 19:52 |
| arrrghhh | why are you holding vol up when i power on...? | 19:52 |
| arrrghhh | you not i | 19:52 |
| XirXes | ive done it on accident a few times | 19:52 |
| arrrghhh | oy i need to go home. | 19:52 |
| TheDeadCPU | bye arrrghhh | 19:53 |
| XirXes | im just a bit curious about it is all | 19:53 |
| arrrghhh | cya | 19:53 |
| arrrghhh | again | 19:53 |
| XirXes | it doesnt seem to do anything else but that | 19:53 |
| arrrghhh | XirXes: uhm... can't say i've ever done that. | 19:53 |
| arrrghhh | you mean a full soft reset? | 19:53 |
| XirXes | like the device is off and you hold vol up before pressing power | 19:53 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 19:55 |
| arrrghhh | XirXes: you crazy | 19:55 |
| XirXes | lol | 19:55 |
| XirXes | that blink drove me there | 19:55 |
| arrrghhh | goin home guys | 20:02 |
| arrrghhh | cya | 20:02 |
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| stinebd | lol still on the external tree | 20:51 |
| stinebd | prebuilt is gonna take like 4 hours | 20:51 |
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| JesusFreak316 | I know you're not here arrrghhh but if you see this let me know. | 21:25 |
| JesusFreak316 | I saw your post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9277619&postcount=5 and was wondering how much you had me in mind when writing it. :D | 21:25 |
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| stinebd | well i guess i can update gapps now | 22:43 |
| F22 | my phone hasn't crashed once in the last 24 hours. heck, it's been up the entire time. :) | 22:47 |
| F22 | plus, i have ctrl working in terminal emulator. it's a good day. | 22:48 |
| stinebd | ? | 22:54 |
| XirXes | nice. good day indeed | 22:55 |
| F22 | terminal emulator, and a lot of other apps, use DPAD_CENTER as ctrl which we don't have mapped to anything on our keyboards, just the screen itself. By mapping the Ctrl/OK to DPAD_CENTER I now have ctrl in terminal emulator and other apps that use it as such. | 22:57 |
| stinebd | ah | 22:58 |
| stinebd | sehr gut | 22:58 |
| stinebd | i like that | 22:58 |
| F22 | :D | 22:58 |
| F22 | i'll be submitting new kcm's for quite a few keyboards tomorrow... | 23:00 |
| stinebd | please give source too | 23:07 |
| stinebd | whoever checked some of those in without source has angered me | 23:07 |
| F22 | everything i submit will have source. | 23:08 |
| F22 | i found the source for the tilt2 even. | 23:09 |
| F22 | i'm also asking for volunteers to make sources for the euro kbd's. | 23:09 |
| F22 | they won't get updated otherwise. | 23:09 |
| F22 | i have the nordic 100 which is in the repo. | 23:10 |
| F22 | the other 100's though are all missing sources. :( | 23:10 |
| F22 | for the rhod that is. | 23:10 |
| F22 | i think we have all the sources for the raph. | 23:11 |
| F22 | without the new kcm's, the patch i've already submitted to expand the palette for the symbol key won't do anyone much good. :P | 23:18 |
| F22 | keyboards need to have working symbol key first. | 23:19 |
| XirXes | once this is in how are we going to get to the symbol palette? cause from what you were saying at some point alt , was going to be < | 23:20 |
| XirXes | tho on our keyboards thats where sym it | 23:20 |
| XirXes | *is | 23:21 |
| XirXes | envelope? | 23:21 |
| XirXes | no you made that search. | 23:21 |
| F22 | i've moved <. it's not like that was in the kbd either until i put it in there. nobody exceot those who are using one of my test rootfs's has it. | 23:21 |
| F22 | yes, envelope is now search. | 23:21 |
| XirXes | ok. is alt . still gunna be > or did you move them together | 23:22 |
| F22 | nope. alt-. is still >. | 23:23 |
| F22 | i'm still pondering the best place to put < however. i currently have it as cap_alt-. | 23:23 |
| XirXes | ok sweet. just curious. the keyboard is the reason I bought this phone you know. :) | 23:23 |
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| XirXes | that doesn't sound bad but it might be a little unintuitive' | 23:24 |
| F22 | yes, the problem is that it's the only key in the us kbd's that uses cap and fn together. | 23:24 |
| F22 | the nice thing about that solution is that both > and < are tied to the same key so it's easier to remember then if i mapped < to some other key. | 23:25 |
| F22 | so i'm torn. | 23:25 |
| XirXes | yeah, what about c and v? the only reason why > makes sense on . is because thats the way it is on a computers keyboard. I suggest those keys because the / pair is immeadiatly right of them | 23:27 |
| ocm | Super OT, but if anyone is in the US they might want to read this http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/11/coica-web-censorship-bill/ | 23:27 |
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| ocm | ill shut up now | 23:27 |
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| XirXes | he wasnt on for 245 seconds | 23:28 |
| arrrghhh | JesusFreak316_, you were one of several people i was thinking of when composing that particular post ;) | 23:28 |
| JesusFreak316_ | :) | 23:28 |
| JesusFreak316_ | Who else? | 23:28 |
| XirXes | oh i missed the _ | 23:28 |
| arrrghhh | hamagc | 23:29 |
| arrrghhh | umm | 23:29 |
| F22 | i -could- do c and v, i don't have a major problem with it. the reasons why i haven't gone with it up until this point are: 1) People used to using fn-. as > might get upset, and 2) On PC keyboards, > is attached to the . key also. | 23:29 |
| arrrghhh | there's a few guys on the ppcg forum | 23:29 |
| arrrghhh | that use it full time activated | 23:29 |
| arrrghhh | nand even | 23:29 |
| arrrghhh | maniacs | 23:29 |
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| XirXes | we can already do nand? do want. | 23:30 |
| F22 | not fully | 23:31 |
| F22 | only partial | 23:31 |
| F22 | still tied to the sd card | 23:31 |
| XirXes | just also getting rid of winmo? | 23:32 |
| F22 | yup, no more working winmo, unless you reflash | 23:32 |
| F22 | arrrghhh knows much more about it than i do, he's been testing it. i'm happy with haret for now. | 23:33 |
| XirXes | hmm. ill wait for a proper implimentation then. if it was operating off the nand i would take it with bugs right now. but that sound more like a bootloader to me | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | yea it's not a full nand | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | i run it for 30 mins at a time max | 23:35 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 23:35 |
| arrrghhh | just a small nbh | 23:35 |
| arrrghhh | uses tinboot | 23:35 |
| arrrghhh | last i tried it the screen didn't actually turn off haha | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | frx03 is freakin awesome tho. | 23:36 |
| XirXes | and as far as the people being used to the > being on . i dont think there are actually any phones with that key marked. this project is still in development, they can deal. as for the other arguments all i can say is you have the power. its up to you | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | there's moments where it seems to hang, but that's just our awesome processors getting overloaded. haven't had a crash... one app fc'd, but that was the app. did it consistnetly lol | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | oh right | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | i jumped into the kbd mapping argument | 23:37 |
| F22 | lol | 23:37 |
| XirXes | arrrghhh: could you link me the nbh. killing winmo is of little concequence to me. i wanna play with something new. adhd | 23:38 |
| F22 | arrrghhh: pity frx03 didn't get my patches added in... ;) | 23:38 |
| arrrghhh | F22, how many times did i tell you to commit them :P | 23:38 |
| F22 | arrrghhh: the system ones have been committed. | 23:39 |
| F22 | er submitted. | 23:39 |
| arrrghhh | XirXes, oh noes it's a ppcg thing. don't mind? | 23:39 |
| F22 | i don't have commit access. | 23:39 |
| arrrghhh | yea i know you can't push. | 23:39 |
| XirXes | nope. i have an account | 23:39 |
| arrrghhh | so long as stine has 'em. | 23:39 |
| arrrghhh | it's a sticky :D | 23:39 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/tp2-android-development/134598-nand-boot-testing-auto-brightness-testing-10-28-automatic-keyboard-detection.html | 23:39 |
| F22 | i still need to submit the the rootfs patches, will get them out tomorrow. | 23:39 |
| arrrghhh | cool | 23:40 |
| arrrghhh | did you see that guys post? | 23:40 |
| arrrghhh | something about a python script that rips about the keyboard layouts lol | 23:40 |
| XirXes | i have an account but I never go there. xda is the site for me. my account was made for downloading things | 23:40 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 23:40 |
| arrrghhh | a lot of cdma action there | 23:40 |
| F22 | today i found the the scan code for the tilt2's ptt key with pohket's assistance since i don't have the tilt2 myself. | 23:41 |
| arrrghhh | <3 cdma | 23:41 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 23:41 |
| F22 | the one in the navipad was wrong, and it didn't belong in there anyway, it's microp. | 23:41 |
| arrrghhh | i'm sure those gsm bastards will be happy | 23:41 |
| F22 | it got copied over from the raph, nobody every checked it. | 23:41 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:41 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 23:41 |
| arrrghhh | navipad, doesn't really exist on rhod | 23:41 |
| arrrghhh | i'm interested to see if we can get the zoombar workin | 23:42 |
| stinebd | F22: where did you submit system changes? | 23:42 |
| arrrghhh | bugtracker | 23:42 |
| F22 | yup | 23:42 |
| stinebd | why is the wrangler not assigning them to me then | 23:42 |
| arrrghhh | sneakily hidden | 23:42 |
| arrrghhh | oh yea | 23:42 |
| arrrghhh | i probably should've done something like that. | 23:42 |
| XirXes | i think the rhods touch screen accuracy would go up if the zoom bar was accounted for | 23:43 |
| F22 | all your fault arrrghhh... :P | 23:43 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:43 |
| * arrrghhh is a bad bug wrangler | 23:43 | |
| stinebd | mm not a fan of bug 62 | 23:44 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=62 enhancement, Normal, ---, stinebd, NEW, Patch to change the power button's default behavior during a call to hangup instead of sleep. | 23:44 |
| arrrghhh | hahahaha | 23:45 |
| F22 | i understand that one is a little more controversial. | 23:45 |
| stinebd | honestly i don't like anything that touches frameworks/base | 23:46 |
| F22 | i suppose if the phone falls asleep in the middle of a phone call people who are used to waking it up with power might be perturbed by it disconnecting. | 23:46 |
| F22 | both patches touch framework/base, although both are only one-liners. | 23:47 |
| stinebd | my goal is to one day unfork it | 23:47 |
| F22 | expanding the symbol palette is fairly innocuous. | 23:47 |
| F22 | and aside from the dream/sapphire, the default on pretty much every other android phone out there is hangup, not sleep during a phone call. | 23:48 |
| JesusFreak316_ | Doh, Wifi error now. | 23:49 |
| JesusFreak316_ | Rebooting. | 23:49 |
| F22 | the symbol palette expansion could probably be submitted upstream fairly easily. | 23:50 |
| F22 | the other seems made to be customized by either the carrier or the manufacturer. | 23:50 |
| JesusFreak316_ | Time to check for duplicate modules files. | 23:50 |
| JesusFreak316_ | lolwut? Wifi just turned on. | 23:50 |
| JesusFreak316_ | Never mind, it turned off again. | 23:51 |
| stinebd | [23:48:53] <F22> and aside from the dream/sapphire, the default on pretty much every other android phone out there is hangup, not sleep during a phone call. < nope | 23:51 |
| stinebd | every android device i've ever used will put the phone to sleep when you hit power in call | 23:51 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, so how do you end call on a n1? the in call screen softkey is the only way? | 23:52 |
| stinebd | yes | 23:52 |
| arrrghhh | huh | 23:52 |
| stinebd | or get the other person angry enough to hang up on you | 23:52 |
| arrrghhh | seems our dial screen needs to be changed then | 23:52 |
| F22 | no? well i haven't looked at very many pre-froyo. | 23:52 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:52 |
| F22 | i thought it was just dream/magic. | 23:53 |
| F22 | since they actually had keys to end calls. | 23:54 |
| XirXes | I think I could get a better idea of the way to handle the in call screen if i had a screenshot of what it looks like on a vga device | 23:54 |
| stinebd | heh | 23:54 |
| stinebd | which do you have? | 23:54 |
| XirXes | rhod | 23:54 |
| XirXes | works perfect on mine | 23:55 |
| stinebd | it should | 23:55 |
| XirXes | i expected it to | 23:55 |
| JesusFreak316_ | If I had a sim card, I'd do it. :P | 23:55 |
| XirXes | maybe ill get that french guy to do it tomorrow | 23:56 |
| XirXes | he has a diamond | 23:56 |
| JesusFreak316_ | There's other French guys than phh? | 23:56 |
| stinebd | F22: i'm gonna have to wontfix 62 | 23:56 |
| JesusFreak316_ | Oh, the noob from earlier? :D | 23:56 |
| XirXes | just the one i think/hope | 23:56 |
| stinebd | 61 looks good though | 23:56 |
| XirXes | yup thats the one | 23:56 |
| JesusFreak316_ | Well, maybe I can try a call and get a screenshot before it disconnects. | 23:57 |
| F22 | ok, so incall power hangup is newer than i thought. i still think it's the sensible choice, but i grant that it may be too new to make the default. people who want it can always add it. | 23:57 |
| F22 | i'll yield on that | 23:57 |
| stinebd | what do you mean new? | 23:57 |
| JesusFreak316_ | Well, wifi works again. WTF. | 23:58 |
| F22 | i just read that the option didn't exist before froyo.... | 23:59 |
| stinebd | probably, but i don't think it's set by default on any devices | 23:59 |
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