| F22 | :) | 00:00 | 
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| F22 | one more thing though. | 00:00 | 
| pitflyer | sure | 00:00 | 
| pitflyer | its booting now | 00:00 | 
| F22 | it only recreates wifi-nvram.txt if it doesn't already exist. | 00:00 | 
| pitflyer | rm /data/wifi-nvram.txt ? | 00:00 | 
| F22 | after you've replaced init, blow away...yup :) | 00:00 | 
| F22 | then reboot | 00:00 | 
| pitflyer | in progress. fingers crossed! | 00:00 | 
| F22 | good luck | 00:01 | 
| pitflyer | can not create init: file exists.. do I have to sudo or something similar? | 00:01 | 
| pitflyer | cant remove init: read only file system | 00:02 | 
| pitflyer | stepping away... my wifi-nvram.txt looks clean now, not corrupted --e ven before I changed my init (could not change it). Will repost it. | 00:07 | 
| F22 | yes | 00:10 | 
| F22 | sudo needed | 00:10 | 
| arrrghhh | well | 00:11 | 
| arrrghhh | su | 00:11 | 
| F22 | or su | 00:11 | 
| F22 | yes | 00:11 | 
| arrrghhh | ninja'd | 00:11 | 
| F22 | lol | 00:11 | 
| arrrghhh | man i don't know what took me so long to try adb | 00:13 | 
| arrrghhh | freakin love it indeed. | 00:13 | 
| F22 | :) | 00:14 | 
| pitflyer | back after a short hiatus. is there a default password or would sudo have worked without one? | 00:36 | 
| pitflyer | Finally, can I ask for a copy of the working wifi-nvram.txt just in case this doesn't work? | 00:36 | 
| arrrghhh | no | 00:36 | 
| arrrghhh | to both | 00:36 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 00:36 | 
| arrrghhh | just do su | 00:36 | 
| arrrghhh | su <enter> | 00:36 | 
| arrrghhh | then try the init crap | 00:37 | 
| pitflyer | ahh, nice way to treat the noob :) | 00:37 | 
| arrrghhh | hey gotta break you in sometimes. | 00:37 | 
| arrrghhh | er | 00:37 | 
| arrrghhh | sometime | 00:37 | 
| arrrghhh | about like the training i got at work. throw 'em in the water and see if he sinks or swims. | 00:38 | 
| pitflyer | fair enough, I will try it again here (slow process to boot winmo, then boot android again) . If this doesnt work I really would like the demo wifi-nvram so I can at least play around with Android... | 00:38 | 
| arrrghhh | i do it all the time, doing it now in fact. | 00:39 | 
| arrrghhh | dude we've got you hooked | 00:39 | 
| arrrghhh | we'd like to fix the issue if there is one | 00:39 | 
| arrrghhh | we can't let you go with some cheap fix | 00:39 | 
| arrrghhh | :P | 00:39 | 
| pitflyer | awww | 00:39 | 
| pitflyer | OK I'll play along before I start whining some more | 00:39 | 
| arrrghhh | no like we want it fixed for everyone | 00:39 | 
| pitflyer | i know.. me too | 00:40 | 
| arrrghhh | that and i don't know what F22 really does, although i could probably just pull mine. | 00:40 | 
| pitflyer | ok. i'll give the init thing a shot with su | 00:40 | 
| arrrghhh | just weird that it's only a few 210's. | 00:40 | 
| F22 | give me a sec to get caught up | 00:40 | 
| arrrghhh | nothing to read here. | 00:40 | 
| arrrghhh | move along. | 00:40 | 
| F22 | lol | 00:41 | 
| F22 | ok | 00:41 | 
| pitflyer | i was just begging for the wifi-nvram.txt direct and argh was playing me for the guinea pig :) | 00:41 | 
| F22 | lol | 00:43 | 
| F22 | he's absolutely right. | 00:44 | 
| F22 | after i gave the wifi-nvram.txt to elvin he didn't stick around to help us come up with a permanent fix. | 00:44 | 
| arrrghhh | indeed. | 00:44 | 
| arrrghhh | so we've got you hooked. | 00:45 | 
| pitflyer | cant replace init -- read only file sytsem -- even when root | 00:46 | 
| arrrghhh | hmmm | 00:47 | 
| arrrghhh | you did su <enter> | 00:47 | 
| arrrghhh | it went from # to $ right? | 00:47 | 
| F22 | hmm.... | 00:59 | 
| F22 | doh | 01:00 | 
| arrrghhh | he hasn't responded. | 01:00 | 
| arrrghhh | using su is kinda confusing if you're not used to linux. | 01:00 | 
| arrrghhh | or y'know computers. | 01:00 | 
| arrrghhh | command-lines. | 01:00 | 
| arrrghhh | i love seeing people on the ubuntu-sever section posting "why does my computer boot into dos?" | 01:01 | 
| arrrghhh | server | 01:01 | 
| arrrghhh | lol ubuntu-sever | 01:01 | 
| F22 | root isn't writable | 01:05 | 
| arrrghhh | oh | 01:05 | 
| F22 | unlike /data | 01:05 | 
| arrrghhh | might be a problem. | 01:05 | 
| arrrghhh | oh you had him trying to right straight to /init | 01:05 | 
| F22 | yep | 01:05 | 
| arrrghhh | lol didn't even think about that. herp. | 01:06 | 
| F22 | that's what i get for splitting my attention between two tasks. | 01:06 | 
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| arrrghhh | what were you thinking. | 01:06 | 
| eee | hi | 01:06 | 
| F22 | the easiest solution is for him to simply download the latest rootfs | 01:06 | 
| arrrghhh | ah crap. | 01:06 | 
| eee | i'm back | 01:06 | 
| F22 | hiya | 01:06 | 
| arrrghhh | quick, hide! | 01:06 | 
| eee | lol | 01:06 | 
| eee | so i was wondering to make tat fix permanent do you have everything you need? | 01:07 | 
| F22 | pitflyer: download the latest rootfs and install that. | 01:07 | 
| F22 | that will give you a new init. | 01:07 | 
| F22 | then blow away wifi-nvram.txt again | 01:07 | 
| arrrghhh | will that really fix it? | 01:08 | 
| arrrghhh | i thought the init will just get screwed up again. | 01:08 | 
| F22 | it should. init is part of rootfs | 01:08 | 
| arrrghhh | eee, is the fix not permanent? | 01:08 | 
| eee | it is | 01:08 | 
| eee | but make it available to everyone on xda | 01:08 | 
| F22 | it is as long as he sticks to xdandroid roots. | 01:08 | 
| F22 | assuming there are no later regressions of course. :P | 01:09 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 01:09 | 
| arrrghhh | eee, we'd love to. | 01:09 | 
| F22 | eee, where did you get your android package from? | 01:09 | 
| eee | http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/downloads | 01:09 | 
| eee | the reference package | 01:09 | 
| eee | not blazn | 01:10 | 
| pitflyer | hey, yes, I ran su and got the # prompt | 01:10 | 
| pitflyer | I can download the newest rootfs... I assume delete data.img | 01:10 | 
| eee | also I was wondering if any1 has been able to overclock 768 | 01:11 | 
| pitflyer | so I'm pretty sure I started from scratch and got the broken 'init' issue | 01:11 | 
| pitflyer | but i'll try again | 01:11 | 
| pitflyer | I'm downloading rootfs from http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/ right? | 01:12 | 
| arrrghhh | yes | 01:13 | 
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| yay | hi guys i am having a small problem connecting in windows | 01:16 | 
| yay | it used to connect before | 01:16 | 
| yay | but now it doesn't | 01:16 | 
| yay | it just says my password is wring | 01:16 | 
| yay | wrong | 01:16 | 
| yay | which i know it isn;t | 01:17 | 
| yay | any suggestions? | 01:17 | 
| arrrghhh | uh what? | 01:17 | 
| arrrghhh | in android? | 01:17 | 
| yay | no in windows | 01:17 | 
| arrrghhh | look at what room you joined. | 01:18 | 
| yay | android works fine | 01:18 | 
| yay | i think it may have to do with android | 01:18 | 
| arrrghhh | yea pretty sure that's not our problem... | 01:18 | 
| arrrghhh | task 29? | 01:18 | 
| yay | but still any suggestions? | 01:18 | 
| pitflyer | On my Rhod210 Wifi Issue, I am downloading FRX02, RootFs and Zimage from xdandroid.com and starting all the way over. | 01:19 | 
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| F22 | damn, missed eee | 01:25 | 
| F22 | i wanted to ask him if he had recently installed a new rootfs too.; | 01:26 | 
| eee | I am here | 01:26 | 
| F22 | lol | 01:26 | 
| eee | i did | 01:26 | 
| F22 | cool | 01:26 | 
| eee | i think the newest one | 01:26 | 
| F22 | er...i mean cool that you're back. | 01:26 | 
| eee | i used the update utility | 01:26 | 
| F22 | update utility? | 01:27 | 
| pitflyer | i tried to download FRX02 from the xdandroid website; apparently that's an EXT2 version... | 01:27 | 
| F22 | yes it is | 01:27 | 
| pitflyer | Is there one that goes straight onto a Fat32 sd card? | 01:27 | 
| pitflyer | or do i get that from the google site | 01:27 | 
| F22 | it does go straight into the fat32 sd card. | 01:27 | 
| F22 | it's actually an image file | 01:28 | 
| F22 | linux mounts it via loopback. | 01:28 | 
| F22 | you don't need to reformat your sd card. | 01:28 | 
| F22 | it's simply a file containing an image of an ext2 filesystem. | 01:29 | 
| arrrghhh | pitflyer, it replaces the old system.ext2 file | 01:29 | 
| pitflyer | so my confusion is that I wanted to start from scratch; and the versions from xdandroid dont have andboot directory and haret.exe, etc | 01:29 | 
| pitflyer | I downloaded the updated zimage and rootfs, but those other files.. where do I get that base from? | 01:30 | 
| arrrghhh | pitflyer, the versions from xdandroid are updates... not complete builds | 01:30 | 
| pitflyer | ok | 01:30 | 
| arrrghhh | rootfs is the only thing you need to update in this case | 01:30 | 
| arrrghhh | but overall, zimage/modules. rootfs. initrd (very rare) and system image or system.ext2 | 01:30 | 
| F22 | yes, init is part of rootfs, get a new rootfs, you get a new init with it. | 01:30 | 
| arrrghhh | nothing else really needs updating... | 01:31 | 
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| pitflyer | ok. I will do it again, but I just checked and I already had the latest rootfs last tue | 01:31 | 
| pitflyer | and I had deleted my data.img, etc | 01:31 | 
| pitflyer | but I will try again | 01:31 | 
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| F22 | i suppose i could post one of my roots. | 01:33 | 
| F22 | put it up on media fire. | 01:33 | 
| arrrghhh | given 'em custom one offs | 01:33 | 
| arrrghhh | signed by F22 | 01:33 | 
| F22 | but my root comes from the repo | 01:33 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 01:33 | 
| F22 | i just edited the keymaps and built it myself. | 01:33 | 
| arrrghhh | did you ever get all those keymap changes pushed? | 01:34 | 
| F22 | nah, i'm looking at the layout file now. but i've been distracted the past day and a half with this issue and testing for wistilt2. | 01:34 | 
| arrrghhh | haha no worries. | 01:34 | 
| arrrghhh | yea i tend to just drop things when he has stuff to test :D | 01:35 | 
| eee | <F22>trying to test the direct calling function | 01:37 | 
| F22 | i have the keymaps for all the american rhods and the nordic 100 done (not doing the others since i don't have sources for them, although i've asked some of the German rhod users if they'd be willing to make one.) | 01:37 | 
| eee | =f22 | 01:37 | 
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| F22 | also have the symbol palette expansion done. that's actually in system. | 01:38 | 
| eee | how do u address a person directly with this chat | 01:38 | 
| F22 | lol, you did. | 01:38 | 
| F22 | sorry, was finishing a reply to an earlier comment. | 01:38 | 
| arrrghhh | eee, tab auto-completes | 01:38 | 
| arrrghhh | i guess depending on your client tab autocompletes... | 01:39 | 
| F22 | eee, what do you mean by "direct calling"? | 01:39 | 
| eee | like how guys address me directly | 01:39 | 
| eee | n i hear that beep | 01:39 | 
| eee | i use http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Chat | 01:39 | 
| F22 | i just spell your name exactly like it looks to me. | 01:40 | 
| arrrghhh | does tab auto-complete? | 01:40 | 
| eee | yea it soes | 01:40 | 
| arrrghhh | like i just hit 'e' then tab | 01:40 | 
| eee | does | 01:40 | 
| arrrghhh | that's it | 01:40 | 
| eee | let me test | 01:40 | 
| arrrghhh | you'll have to do ar for me | 01:40 | 
| eee | arrrghhh: works i'm assuming | 01:40 | 
| arrrghhh | indeedy | 01:40 | 
| eee | great | 01:40 | 
| eee | another feature learnt | 01:40 | 
| eee | so another thing has anyone been able to overclock 768 | 01:41 | 
| eee | Mhz | 01:41 | 
| arrrghhh | on rhod yea | 01:41 | 
| eee | it seems to work only till 700 for me | 01:41 | 
| eee | at 768 it gets stuck | 01:41 | 
| arrrghhh | i heard 700 is the most stable | 01:41 | 
| eee | yea | 01:41 | 
| arrrghhh | i do 700 or nothing. | 01:42 | 
| eee | but android is still a bit slow | 01:42 | 
| arrrghhh | meh | 01:42 | 
| arrrghhh | it's not perfect | 01:42 | 
| eee | especially when playing angry birds | 01:42 | 
| eee | lol | 01:42 | 
| arrrghhh | damn you. | 01:42 | 
| eee | lags like crazy | 01:42 | 
| arrrghhh | the blazn builds are quick | 01:42 | 
| arrrghhh | WE DON'T HAVE OPENGLES2.0 | 01:42 | 
| arrrghhh | so angry birds will always lag | 01:42 | 
| arrrghhh | ALWAYS | 01:42 | 
| eee | oh | 01:42 | 
| arrrghhh | get a snapdragon android phone :P | 01:43 | 
| eee | no money for tat | 01:43 | 
| arrrghhh | the hero can't play angry birds either i bet. | 01:43 | 
| eee | lo | 01:43 | 
| pitflyer | tried brand new rootfs.img and rebuilt data.img | 01:43 | 
| arrrghhh | hell hamagc said android on his raph is better than it is on his moment sometimes. which is sad. | 01:43 | 
| pitflyer | wifi still doent work | 01:43 | 
| F22 | i wasn't able to do 768 either | 01:43 | 
| F22 | a lot of rhods can't hit 768. | 01:43 | 
| F22 | most of them can do 700 though i've heard. | 01:44 | 
| eee | yea i could reach only 700 | 01:44 | 
| eee | at 768 it doesn't boot | 01:44 | 
| F22 | pitflyer: how does your wifi-nvram.txt look now? | 01:45 | 
| eee | so pitflyer has tried the same solution and it still doesn't work | 01:45 | 
| eee | ? | 01:45 | 
| pitflyer | i am being witheld the file :) | 01:45 | 
| F22 | what's the first line? | 01:45 | 
| pitflyer | one sec, catting | 01:46 | 
| Unholy | eee have you tried a donut build? maybe angry birds will be faster with donut, thats if you dont mind the incompability with most apps | 01:46 | 
| eee | unh | 01:46 | 
| pitflyer | first line is -id=0x2d0 | 01:46 | 
| arrrghhh | i heard the neopeek builds are best for angry poops | 01:46 | 
| pitflyer | file seems otherwise clear text to me | 01:47 | 
| F22 | first line is still of. | 01:47 | 
| F22 | off. | 01:47 | 
| F22 | eee's whole file was screwed up. | 01:47 | 
| eee | Unholy: so i'm guessin that the latest builds on http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/downloads are the best overall | 01:47 | 
| eee | yea it was | 01:47 | 
| arrrghhh | eee's whole life is screwed up. | 01:47 | 
| eee | u got tat rite | 01:48 | 
| arrrghhh | sorry i'm gettin tired. | 01:48 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 01:48 | 
| eee | engineering kills me | 01:48 | 
| pitflyer | i am 'more /init' but hard to find exactly the section I want to check | 01:48 | 
| Unholy | iv never used cab installation nether that website, look for the donut builds on the raph section | 01:48 | 
| Unholy | fuze to be exact | 01:48 | 
| eee | but then you say incompatibilty issues rite? | 01:49 | 
| F22 | i can show you the section pitflyer. give me a sec. | 01:49 | 
| pitflyer | ok, well I think I found it | 01:49 | 
| F22 | ahh... | 01:49 | 
| pitflyer | I have the [if /etc/wifi/wlan.ko] | 01:49 | 
| F22 | what's the order of the lines | 01:49 | 
| pitflyer | is that the line that was missing before? | 01:49 | 
| F22 | they aren't actually missing. | 01:49 | 
| pitflyer | depmod before that line | 01:49 | 
| F22 | they're in a different order. | 01:49 | 
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| Unholy | whell yes eee, donut is very old some apps wont install on it | 01:50 | 
| Unholy | its trial and error | 01:50 | 
| pitflyer | cp -R /etc/wifi/* | 01:50 | 
| pitflyer | depmod | 01:50 | 
| pitflyer | then the if statement | 01:50 | 
| eee | Unholy: i'm guessin my wifi problem would arise again | 01:50 | 
| Unholy | but donut is to my knowledge the fastes build | 01:50 | 
| Unholy | dunno about that | 01:50 | 
| Unholy | what device are you on? | 01:51 | 
| eee | rhodium 210 | 01:51 | 
| F22 | [ -f /etc/wifi/wlan.ko ] && rm /etc/wifi/wlan.ko | 01:51 | 
| F22 | cp -R /etc/wifi/* /data/modules/ | 01:51 | 
| F22 | depmod | 01:51 | 
| F22 | that's the order i have. | 01:51 | 
| eee | F22 just helped me solve my problem with wifi | 01:51 | 
| Unholy | thats a tp2 right, dunno man you can always make a separate folder for donut on your sdcard and use rel_path and test it out | 01:52 | 
| eee | yea | 01:52 | 
| pitflyer | Mine is still different, for sure | 01:52 | 
| pitflyer | even though I started with a brand new rootfs | 01:52 | 
| pitflyer | straight from the auto build site | 01:52 | 
| pitflyer | its ok to replace rootfs without rebuilding data.img? | 01:53 | 
| Unholy | yes | 01:53 | 
| Unholy | mostly it does not matter | 01:53 | 
| Unholy | unless its a system change | 01:54 | 
| pitflyer | ok i'll try one more time | 01:54 | 
| pitflyer | i updated my wifi-nvram, init, dmesg and logcat to http://www.mediafire.com/?1u6b2gbd7myw1hz | 01:58 | 
| pitflyer | eee -- if you are still there can I get a copy of the wifi-nvram.txt you used that works at least temporarily? | 02:00 | 
| eee | gimme a min | 02:01 | 
| pitflyer | tx. blew away my rootfs.img and started from thje downloaded copy again to see what happens | 02:02 | 
| F22 | pitflyer, i'm willing to give you a wifi-nvram.txt | 02:02 | 
| F22 | however one value is specific to the network interface on your device. | 02:02 | 
| pitflyer | the mac | 02:02 | 
| F22 | i can pull it off the one you gave me though. | 02:02 | 
| F22 | yes. | 02:02 | 
| pitflyer | I know, I'll update that one | 02:02 | 
| F22 | i have too many things on my plate at this moment to really focus on this, and you've been a good sport. i'll give you the file, but i'd appreciate it if we could continue with this when i'm not otherwise distracted. | 02:04 | 
| pitflyer | areed | 02:04 | 
| pitflyer | agreed | 02:04 | 
| pitflyer | I think its important we fix this for others to avoid this problem.. but I just want to get on for now :) | 02:04 | 
| F22 | and hopefully it will work for you just as it did for eee. :D | 02:05 | 
| pitflyer | just deleted rootfs and restarted, and order is still cp, depmod, -f statement | 02:05 | 
| pitflyer | so something is going on that it is in the wrong order | 02:06 | 
| F22 | yup. i will take a closer look at the file in the rootfs git. | 02:07 | 
| F22 | the odd thing is that i have a 210 too, and mine looks good. | 02:07 | 
| eee | pitflyer, do u c it? | 02:07 | 
| pitflyer | OK. I'll do another debug session with you as schedule permits.. let me know the link for the working wifi-nvram and I'll replace the mac | 02:07 | 
| F22 | ok, give me a min. | 02:07 | 
| pitflyer | eee did you send me a link? | 02:07 | 
| eee | is there another tab there? | 02:08 | 
| pitflyer | oh yeah, thanks eee | 02:08 | 
| pitflyer | sorry missed it completely, got it | 02:08 | 
| eee | the place where it says macaddr | 02:10 | 
| eee | put ur mac address in there | 02:10 | 
| eee | rite F22 ? | 02:10 | 
| pitflyer | hm, I must have some odd thing going on, I can't download the file from the link you sent me | 02:10 | 
| pitflyer | the 'download' text is not a link | 02:10 | 
| F22 | pitflyer, i just pm'd you the link. | 02:11 | 
| pitflyer | Got it, that one worked. Weird that 2shared didnt | 02:11 | 
| pitflyer | F22, is that one custom with my mac or should I update? | 02:11 | 
| F22 | it's custom with your mac. | 02:11 | 
| pitflyer | so just copy to sdcard and replace data/wifi-nvram.txt and reboot? | 02:11 | 
| F22 | yup | 02:11 | 
| pitflyer | ok, thanks. hope the band aid works.. eee, thanks too | 02:12 | 
| eee | Glad to help wherever i can | 02:12 | 
| eee | so again overclocking is not possible at 768 rite? | 02:13 | 
| F22 | not with most rhodiums | 02:13 | 
| F22 | it's up there for the few that can. | 02:14 | 
| F22 | different chips have different amounts of headroom. | 02:14 | 
| eee | does it make a difference if you run haret from windows or run it seperately? | 02:15 | 
| F22 | i believe you can actually raise and lower that clock speed in 19MHz increments from what i recall. | 02:15 | 
| eee | from a speed perspective | 02:15 | 
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| F22 | i didn't know it was possible to run haret separately...oh you mean on the console side... | 02:16 | 
| eee | like say if you had a dual boot when you boot your phone | 02:16 | 
| eee | n u choose android then | 02:16 | 
| eee | instead of windows | 02:16 | 
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| F22 | i don't believe that's currently possible with haret's present design. | 02:19 | 
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| F22 | haret doesn't just boot the linux kernel, it boots the linux kernel using the hardware initialized to the values set by winmo. | 02:20 | 
| F22 | need to boot winmo first to get those settings loaded. | 02:21 | 
| pitflyer | success! so far at least | 02:21 | 
| pitflyer | my wifi stayed ona nd I see my access points | 02:21 | 
| F22 | excellent :) | 02:21 | 
| pitflyer | no need to reboot afterwards, just replace wifi-nvram.txt with the one you gave me. I assume the only thing that's custom there is my mac? | 02:22 | 
| F22 | yup | 02:22 | 
| F22 | wasn't sure if you needed to reboot or not. | 02:22 | 
| F22 | with the linux kernel you usually don't. | 02:22 | 
| F22 | but i haven't actually used wifi myself yet. | 02:22 | 
| F22 | not with my tp2. :P | 02:22 | 
| F22 | so i figured just to be safe i'd tell you to reboot the first time. | 02:23 | 
| pitflyer | so how do you feel about sharing with the rest of the world? I can write it up on the xda thread.. or would you rather not share the workaround yet? | 02:23 | 
| F22 | i was thinking about posting it anyway, with XX:XX:XX:XX:XX for the mac address in place of the hex chars. | 02:24 | 
| pitflyer | sure, exactly | 02:24 | 
| pitflyer | ps, never been so happy to see google's homepage | 02:24 | 
| pitflyer | ok.. I'm good for now. F22, if you are busy, I'll share it on XDA next time I'm on. | 02:24 | 
| F22 | but i also really want to find out what's going on. | 02:24 | 
| F22 | before you take off... | 02:25 | 
| pitflyer | go ahead | 02:25 | 
| F22 | ok, you probably already said it, but i just want to make sure i have the info, and i'm not sure if i got it form you or eee... | 02:25 | 
| F22 | which android package did you originally install? | 02:25 | 
| pitflyer | for me-- Reference Build 2.2 | 02:26 | 
| F22 | Reef's reference build. ok. Which date? | 02:26 | 
| F22 | he updates them every so often. | 02:26 | 
| pitflyer | Reference Build that I downlodaed last Sun | 02:26 | 
| pitflyer | let me see the file date | 02:26 | 
| eee | the nov 1st one for me | 02:26 | 
| eee | reference build | 02:26 | 
| F22 | ok | 02:26 | 
| eee | i said it before | 02:26 | 
| pitflyer | Same one here | 02:27 | 
| pitflyer | checked date, 11/1 | 02:27 | 
| F22 | lol, no doubt, just wanted to make sure i had the info, and i didn't want to make you wait while i looked through the log. :P | 02:27 | 
| pitflyer | rootfs from 11/8 | 02:27 | 
| pitflyer | zimage from 11/3 | 02:27 | 
| F22 | did you ever try to run it with a rootfs from before 11/8? | 02:27 | 
| pitflyer | Not me | 02:28 | 
| F22 | ok, so the first time you ran android it was with the 11/8 rootfs. | 02:28 | 
| F22 | i assume the same goes for the zimage. | 02:29 | 
| pitflyer | Well, I take that back then.. you aer right. I did try to run it on Mon/Tue with the stuff that came with the ref build from 11/1 | 02:29 | 
| F22 | ah, ok. | 02:29 | 
| pitflyer | Then on Tue, when it wasn't all working, I replaced my rootfs and zimage, and deleted my data.img too | 02:29 | 
| F22 | all at the same time? | 02:30 | 
| F22 | or did you try to run it in between? | 02:30 | 
| pitflyer | yes, i did rootfs and zimage at same time | 02:30 | 
| pitflyer | i have a spare micro sd, so I can do it all from scratch; format and restart from 11/1 and go straight to new rootfs and zimage | 02:30 | 
| pitflyer | if that would be helpful I'l try that tomorrow and report back on xda | 02:31 | 
| F22 | yes, and try stine's AOSP build instead of Reef's. | 02:31 | 
| F22 | or do Reef's again, and if it doesn't work, try Stine's AOSP. | 02:32 | 
| pitflyer | can you send me a link that includes all the other files (ie haret.exe, etc?) | 02:32 | 
| pitflyer | because the ones from xdandroid only give me that ext2 file | 02:32 | 
| F22 | Reef builds his from Stine's. Theoretically they should be the same. | 02:32 | 
| F22 | http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Main_Page | 02:32 | 
| F22 | bottom left of that page | 02:32 | 
| pitflyer | this link is what I see: http://files.xdandroid.com/system-FRX02.ext2.zip | 02:32 | 
| F22 | that's the system. | 02:33 | 
| pitflyer | that only gives me the ext2 file, where shoudl I get the other files like haret.exe, etc? | 02:33 | 
| pitflyer | I got all that stuff from the sites.google.com site | 02:33 | 
| F22 | oh, hmm...you're right. | 02:33 | 
| F22 | it's not the package. give me a sec. | 02:33 | 
| F22 | http://htcandroid.xland.cz/?C=M;O=A | 02:34 | 
| F22 | http://htcandroid.xland.cz/XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.FRX01.17.09.10.UPDATE_PACKAGE.7z | 02:34 | 
| F22 | the first shows you all the updates available for everything. | 02:35 | 
| F22 | the 2nd link is the latest version of stinebd's package. | 02:35 | 
| F22 | just like with reef's you should update the rootfs and kernel. | 02:35 | 
| F22 | oh and system too. | 02:35 | 
| pitflyer | ok. I'll do all that tomorrow and report back. Thanks.. going to bed now, happy that I will be able to play on Android tomorrow! | 02:35 | 
| F22 | :) | 02:35 | 
| F22 | glad i could help | 02:36 | 
| pitflyer | good night! | 02:36 | 
| F22 | g'nite! | 02:36 | 
| eee | yeah g nite from me 2 | 02:36 | 
| eee | thanks again | 02:36 | 
| F22 | my pleasure :) | 02:36 | 
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| Djcloud | hey | 08:31 | 
| Djcloud | anyone here? | 08:39 | 
| Djcloud | so | 08:54 | 
| Djcloud | geuss ill talk to myself haha | 08:54 | 
| Djcloud | whats up cloud | 08:54 | 
| Djcloud | nm u? | 08:54 | 
| Djcloud | nm | 08:54 | 
| Djcloud | workin on a guide to flash to metro | 08:54 | 
| Djcloud | oh really | 08:54 | 
| Djcloud | yeh | 08:54 | 
| Djcloud | for what phone | 08:54 | 
| Djcloud | tp2 | 08:54 | 
| Djcloud | ah | 08:54 | 
| Djcloud | sprint or verizon? | 08:54 | 
| Djcloud | eiether should work | 08:55 | 
| Djcloud | haha | 08:55 | 
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| DjCloud | i have a ? | 09:35 | 
| DjCloud | anyone there? | 09:36 | 
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| ftvm | hello all | 09:47 | 
| DjCloud | hi | 09:50 | 
| ftvm | how are you ? | 09:52 | 
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| ftvm | hello arrrghhh | 10:08 | 
| ftvm | how are you ? | 10:08 | 
| DjCloud | sup arrrggh | 10:09 | 
| DjCloud | good ftvm and u? | 10:10 | 
| ftvm | yes ... fine ... | 10:15 | 
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| arrrghhh | ready to stab people. | 10:20 | 
| arrrghhh | damnit i forgot to turn off my wallpaper swicther lol | 10:20 | 
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| DjCloud | lol | 10:36 | 
| DjCloud | hey arrrghh can i ask u something? | 10:36 | 
| arrrghhh | wat | 10:39 | 
| arrrghhh | i'm eating and my support guys woke my ass up. so it may cost you. | 10:39 | 
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| F22 | G'Morning arrrghhh | 11:05 | 
| arrrghhh | what's up F22 | 11:05 | 
| F22 | i find it highly amusing that i'm getting advice to reformat my sdcard from someone who didn't know his phone was a 210 just the other day on the forums. | 11:06 | 
| arrrghhh | lmao | 11:07 | 
| arrrghhh | that's awesome | 11:07 | 
| F22 | apparently he had a similar problem with incoming calls. | 11:07 | 
| F22 | he says reformatting his sdcard fixed it. | 11:07 | 
| arrrghhh | nice | 11:08 | 
| F22 | i still haven't blown away my data image. | 11:08 | 
| F22 | been too busy with other stuff | 11:09 | 
| arrrghhh | troubleshoooting step #1 my friend. | 11:09 | 
| arrrghhh | i still haven't figured out why a format seems to fix some issues. | 11:09 | 
| arrrghhh | usually related to the only ringtone being "silent" | 11:09 | 
| F22 | interesting | 11:10 | 
| arrrghhh | i keep blaming partition table. | 11:10 | 
| arrrghhh | and stupid windows not touching it on sd's | 11:10 | 
| arrrghhh | so using the hp tool, gparted, basically anything but the windows utility fixes it. | 11:10 | 
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| F22 | fdisk? :P | 11:11 | 
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 11:11 | 
| arrrghhh | yes, i'm sure fdisk would be ok :P | 11:11 | 
| F22 | it's kind of funny that both linux and windows have a partition reformatting tool called the same name. | 11:12 | 
| arrrghhh | yea | 11:13 | 
| arrrghhh | that threw me for a loop coming to linux. | 11:13 | 
| F22 | although the letter f probably stands for different things... ;) | 11:13 | 
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| CypherIce | wasup folks | 11:17 | 
| CypherIce | arrrghhh real wifi working, finally in the market... :) | 11:20 | 
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| DjCloud | ok | 11:31 | 
| DjCloud | my thing was actin up | 11:31 | 
| DjCloud | i have a question if someone is willing to listen | 11:31 | 
| CypherIce | shoot it | 11:39 | 
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| F22 | blowing away data.img fixed it. | 11:45 | 
| F22 | i can now take incoming calls. | 11:46 | 
| arrrghhh | :D | 11:46 | 
| arrrghhh | i wish it didn't work, but it does... | 11:46 | 
| F22 | something strange is going on there. | 11:47 | 
| arrrghhh | indeed | 11:47 | 
| F22 | there must be something specific in the image... | 11:47 | 
| arrrghhh | it just seems to get corrupt and do all sorts of wacky insane things. | 11:47 | 
| F22 | too many things to investigate, not enough time to figure them all out... | 11:47 | 
| arrrghhh | most of the time someone has an off-the-wall problem that fixes it lol | 11:47 | 
| arrrghhh | F22, yea like WisTilt was sayin, one thing at a time. | 11:47 | 
| F22 | like the init/wifi-nvram.txt mystery that only seems to appear on some, but not all, 210's. | 11:48 | 
| F22 | then there are the complaints from people with 100's about newer kernels, haven't even looked at those. | 11:49 | 
| arrrghhh | yea i know it | 11:51 | 
| arrrghhh | triage triage! | 11:51 | 
| arrrghhh | i'm trying to get logs on the reboot volume thing :P | 11:51 | 
| arrrghhh | that's my mission today | 11:51 | 
| F22 | cool | 11:52 | 
| F22 | i'm testing wistilt's latest from last night, then time for a shower and off to get a hair cut. | 11:52 | 
| arrrghhh | yea i need to get one of those. | 11:53 | 
| arrrghhh | already took the shower haha | 11:53 | 
| F22 | i'm way overdue. | 11:53 | 
| F22 | lol | 11:53 | 
| arrrghhh | need to trim my beard, good god. | 11:53 | 
| F22 | for the haircut that is. ;) | 11:53 | 
| arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 11:53 | 
| arrrghhh | yea i assumed, but i could see how that could easily be misconstrued. | 11:53 | 
| arrrghhh | i'm not that quick in the morning. | 11:54 | 
| arrrghhh | especially after getting woken for NOTHING. stupid support. | 11:54 | 
| arrrghhh | can't even troubleshoot basic network problems on their own PCs, how can they do it for others remotely? | 11:54 | 
| F22 | end call works too now. i bet so does my long press power menu. | 11:55 | 
| F22 | yup, airplane and silent modes are back on the list. | 11:55 | 
| F22 | lol, i hate doing network support. i'm so glad i'm not doing it anymore. | 11:56 | 
| F22 | especially over the telephone....*cringe* | 11:56 | 
| F22 | well it's not so bad if the person i'm supporting has a clue... | 11:57 | 
| arrrghhh | well i'm like teir 2 now | 11:58 | 
| arrrghhh | so i don't take all the little piddly calls anymore | 11:58 | 
| arrrghhh | most of my work is project-oriented | 11:58 | 
| arrrghhh | but the retards blamed the switch, said it was in the wrong vlan. no, the retard changed some settings and tried getting a DHCP lease on a vlan without a DHCP server... | 11:59 | 
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| F22 | lol | 12:01 | 
| F22 | i can remember the frustration... | 12:02 | 
| F22 | and not so fondly... | 12:02 | 
| GlemSom | arrrghhh, VLANs are great... But can sure lead to some problems too! :P | 12:02 | 
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| arrrghhh | idiots. | 12:03 | 
| arrrghhh | GlemSom, when i work with morons, it doesn't help. let's just say our lan/support team aren't the brightest. | 12:03 | 
| F22 | hiya GlemSom, how goes? | 12:06 | 
| GlemSom | arrrghhh, Yeah, back to the good old IPX days... :P | 12:07 | 
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 12:07 | 
| arrrghhh | there guys are using virtualPCs | 12:07 | 
| GlemSom | F22, Fine thanks... Been using most of my day trying to get MythTV 0.24 running (even compiling tool some hours)... so... OK I guess :P | 12:07 | 
| arrrghhh | and they can't troubleshoot them to save their lives. | 12:07 | 
| arrrghhh | good ole myth. | 12:07 | 
| arrrghhh | i couldn't get it to scan for any channels off my antenna. | 12:08 | 
| arrrghhh | i guess it's really only worth it if you pay for cable or satellite... | 12:08 | 
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| F22 | how's the Myth install coming along? working now? or taking a break? | 12:08 | 
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| GlemSom | arrrghhh, What is it you do... Network administrator? Or general systems ? | 12:09 | 
| GlemSom | F22, Still setting it up... NX is such a nice thing to have :D | 12:10 | 
| arrrghhh | kinda network admin. | 12:10 | 
| arrrghhh | work at a data/voice technician really. | 12:10 | 
| TheDeadCPU_ | But they're all noobs at his work so he's doing everything | 12:10 | 
| arrrghhh | lmao | 12:10 | 
| arrrghhh | there's some smart dudes | 12:11 | 
| arrrghhh | just not in support anymore. | 12:11 | 
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| arrrghhh | there used to be a few smart guys there, but they've all gone haha | 12:11 | 
| F22 | NX is supposed to be very quick from what I understand. | 12:12 | 
| arrrghhh | NX is pretty good. | 12:13 | 
| GlemSom | arrrghhh, I work for a smaller company... So, I do mostly everything (Though, mostly NOT paperwork...) everything from supporting a idiotic user who cannot make bold text - to design and implementing solutions... | 12:13 | 
| arrrghhh | so long as you have a faxt cxn | 12:13 | 
| GlemSom | F22, Yeah - so much better then plain X over tcp/ip | 12:13 | 
| arrrghhh | GlemSom, damn. yea we have architects that plan everything. network architect, security architect | 12:14 | 
| arrrghhh | etc | 12:14 | 
| GlemSom | arrrghhh, wow :P | 12:14 | 
| arrrghhh | but we're a pretty big bank :P | 12:14 | 
| GlemSom | You work for google or something ? | 12:14 | 
| arrrghhh | oh no. | 12:14 | 
| arrrghhh | haha i wish. | 12:14 | 
| TheDeadCPU | Well. My school has these educated people in the IT department. | 12:14 | 
| TheDeadCPU | But I do 75% of their work lol | 12:14 | 
| GlemSom | TheDeadCPU, They should pay you to go to school! :P | 12:17 | 
| arrrghhh | they do... | 12:17 | 
| TheDeadCPU | :D | 12:18 | 
| arrrghhh | well his gov't does. | 12:18 | 
| CypherIce | my gov should give me a router | 12:20 | 
| CypherIce | :) | 12:20 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:20 | 
| arrrghhh | everyone gets a free router? | 12:20 | 
| arrrghhh | you cheap bastard. | 12:20 | 
| arrrghhh | :P | 12:20 | 
| CypherIce | :D | 12:20 | 
| CypherIce | it would be nice... | 12:21 | 
| XirXes | with wep disabled perminatly | 12:24 | 
| arrrghhh | lmao | 12:24 | 
| arrrghhh | :D | 12:24 | 
| arrrghhh | no mo wep | 12:24 | 
| arrrghhh | for the peoples | 12:24 | 
| CypherIce | arrrghhh do u use any battery saving app? | 12:30 | 
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| arrrghhh | nah | 12:30 | 
| arrrghhh | probably won't do much good | 12:30 | 
| CypherIce | mkay :) | 12:32 | 
| arrrghhh | we need to improve our port | 12:32 | 
| arrrghhh | which, it has come a long way. | 12:32 | 
| arrrghhh | battery life has made huge improvements | 12:33 | 
| arrrghhh | and wistilt has another fix in the pipeline it seems. | 12:33 | 
| CypherIce | port? lol (dumm question) | 12:34 | 
| arrrghhh | yea | 12:35 | 
| arrrghhh | this is all being reverse engineered | 12:35 | 
| arrrghhh | 'ported' | 12:35 | 
| arrrghhh | to our phones | 12:35 | 
| F22 | it should be easier now to accomplish now that our battery meter works consistently. | 12:35 | 
| arrrghhh | haha indeed. | 12:36 | 
| arrrghhh | wistilt was sayin he was getting 36 hrs | 12:36 | 
| arrrghhh | mostly sleep | 12:36 | 
| CypherIce | does it really works consistently? i'm having a huge drain of battery, the values are always changing | 12:36 | 
| F22 | it seems pretty accurate on the latest kernels for the rhodium | 12:36 | 
| F22 | although it may depend on the battery you have. | 12:36 | 
| CypherIce | hmm okay | 12:37 | 
| F22 | if i recall correctly there was some variance depending on your battery model. | 12:37 | 
| CypherIce | it would be nice to see here a blackstone user | 12:37 | 
| F22 | camro developed the battery meter code on a blackstone | 12:38 | 
| CypherIce | to save battery? | 12:38 | 
| arrrghhh | eh | 12:39 | 
| arrrghhh | just a more accurate meter. | 12:39 | 
| F22 | well he's the developer responsible for the better battery meter, which he put a lot of time into, in the end, all that experimentation burned out his phone. | 12:39 | 
| F22 | which was a blackstone | 12:39 | 
| arrrghhh | yea i think he pushed it a little too far.... | 12:39 | 
| arrrghhh | unfortunately. | 12:39 | 
| CypherIce | a little? lol | 12:40 | 
| CypherIce | to burn out... | 12:40 | 
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| arrrghhh | yea i'm hoping we can get him a donor device. | 12:40 | 
| CypherIce | in a part thats why i dont overclock my device | 12:40 | 
| XirXes | what happened is his device became unable to detect the battery. so It wouldnt turn on | 12:41 | 
| XirXes | it wasnt from overclocking | 12:41 | 
| F22 | he seemed almost happy to have had his phone burn out on him. it gives him more time to spend on drinking... :P nah, i mean school... :D | 12:41 | 
| XirXes | lol | 12:41 | 
| CypherIce | lolol | 12:41 | 
| CypherIce | whats the best android device in the market? | 12:42 | 
| F22 | the man certainly liked to combine his coding with drinking... :P | 12:42 | 
| XirXes | not the sgs | 12:42 | 
| arrrghhh | that's a matter of opinion CypherIce | 12:42 | 
| F22 | definitely a matter of opinion | 12:42 | 
| CypherIce | f22 rotfl | 12:42 | 
| CypherIce | htc for example | 12:42 | 
| CypherIce | best android htc | 12:42 | 
| arrrghhh | desire Z | 12:42 | 
| arrrghhh | perhaps | 12:42 | 
| XirXes | g2 | 12:43 | 
| arrrghhh | same | 12:43 | 
| XirXes | 4 gigs instead of 2 | 12:43 | 
| arrrghhh | oh | 12:43 | 
| arrrghhh | :P | 12:43 | 
| arrrghhh | bastage | 12:43 | 
| F22 | right now for htc its the desire z and hd, depending on what your priorities are. | 12:43 | 
| arrrghhh | same hardware lol | 12:43 | 
| CypherIce | nice keyboard | 12:43 | 
| CypherIce | hd? or hd 2? | 12:43 | 
| arrrghhh | i love my tp2 kbd | 12:43 | 
| arrrghhh | desire HD | 12:43 | 
| arrrghhh | hd2 is winmo | 12:43 | 
| XirXes | the hd sucks only because of its wimpy battery | 12:44 | 
| CypherIce | yeah yeah | 12:44 | 
| CypherIce | tp2 kbd? don't know that | 12:44 | 
| arrrghhh | touch pro 2? | 12:44 | 
| arrrghhh | best kbd imho | 12:44 | 
| F22 | agreed | 12:44 | 
| XirXes | deff | 12:44 | 
| arrrghhh | missing a few keys, but the keyboard itself feels great | 12:44 | 
| F22 | i wish there were some native devices with 5 row keyboards. | 12:44 | 
| arrrghhh | still waiting on the successor to the tp2. | 12:45 | 
| arrrghhh | they kinda half-baked the device really. | 12:45 | 
| XirXes | agreed | 12:45 | 
| arrrghhh | no led flash, just reused the proc and ram specs... | 12:45 | 
| arrrghhh | yet it's got one of the best physical keyboards. and the screen is great minus it being resistive. | 12:45 | 
| CypherIce | htc desire 400euros | 12:45 | 
| arrrghhh | that's a lotta peso's | 12:46 | 
| XirXes | the desire is a nice balanced phone | 12:46 | 
| CypherIce | if u know what euros are lol | 12:46 | 
| arrrghhh | yes, we know what euros are... | 12:46 | 
| F22 | lol | 12:46 | 
| CypherIce | :) | 12:46 | 
| arrrghhh | omg interwebs | 12:46 | 
| arrrghhh | people are outside of my state! | 12:46 | 
| XirXes | good battery and processor. | 12:47 | 
| CypherIce | but a lot of money | 12:47 | 
| F22 | desire is a little old now. kind of funny, only in the cell phone business is something outdated in 6 months, even the computer field doesn't move quite so quickly, well maybe graphics cards... | 12:47 | 
| CypherIce | i can sell my blackstone for 200euros, my htc touch for 40euros and thats it | 12:47 | 
| CypherIce | lol | 12:47 | 
| XirXes | the oled models suck tho. make things look pink | 12:47 | 
| XirXes | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656128 | 12:48 | 
| CypherIce | is the mms service running on xdandroid» | 12:50 | 
| CypherIce | ? | 12:50 | 
| arrrghhh | don't think it works right | 12:50 | 
| arrrghhh | it doesn't work on winmo for me | 12:50 | 
| arrrghhh | i just check the site | 12:50 | 
| CypherIce | hmm i was wondering if i receive a mms when i'm on xdandroid and if theres somekind of bug... can i open it later in winmo? | 12:52 | 
| arrrghhh | dunno | 12:53 | 
| arrrghhh | send yourself an mms | 12:53 | 
| CypherIce | lol better to ask somebody to send | 12:54 | 
| arrrghhh | whatever. | 12:54 | 
| arrrghhh | i don't use mms | 12:54 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 12:54 | 
| CypherIce | so u just use or device for developing xdandroid? lol | 12:57 | 
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| XirXes | yay | 12:59 | 
| XirXes | ^ | 12:59 | 
| arrrghhh | nobody sends me mms | 13:00 | 
| arrrghhh | oh he's gone... | 13:00 | 
| arrrghhh | some people's children. | 13:00 | 
| XirXes | god deodexing takes forever | 13:01 | 
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| arrrghhh | omg | 13:21 | 
| XirXes | ? | 13:21 | 
| arrrghhh | i think i found a way to fix that dude's adhoc issue | 13:21 | 
| arrrghhh | accidently. | 13:21 | 
| arrrghhh | not going to tell him. | 13:21 | 
| arrrghhh | it's not easy :P | 13:21 | 
| XirXes | lol nice | 13:21 | 
| arrrghhh | although the directions are for a hero... | 13:21 | 
| arrrghhh | meh | 13:21 | 
| XirXes | just link it to him and tell him not to expect any help with it if it doesnt work | 13:22 | 
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| arrrghhh | ha | 13:29 | 
| arrrghhh | right | 13:29 | 
| arrrghhh | expect no help... | 13:29 | 
| arrrghhh | you think he'll actually respect that...? | 13:30 | 
| XirXes | nah. your right. | 13:30 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:35 | 
| arrrghhh | i know end users man. i deal with them on a daily basis :P | 13:35 | 
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| CypherIce | omfg so many apps to chose from... | 13:48 | 
| CypherIce | do they all work? | 13:49 | 
| arrrghhh | yes | 13:49 | 
| arrrghhh | every single app is guranateed to work... | 13:49 | 
| arrrghhh | guaranteed | 13:50 | 
| CypherIce | very nice | 13:50 | 
| arrrghhh | 100%. | 13:50 | 
| arrrghhh | i'm joking. that doesn't even apply to native android phones. | 13:50 | 
| arrrghhh | native android phones have issues with some apps. just depends on the app and the phone... | 13:50 | 
| CypherIce | and when a app says that has access to the sd card (modify/delete sd card contents), will it remove the xdandroid? | 13:50 | 
| CypherIce | -.- nice joke, i was very excited to try each one | 13:51 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:51 | 
| arrrghhh | no it won't remove xdandroid hahaha | 13:51 | 
| arrrghhh | it's not going to remove itself | 13:51 | 
| arrrghhh | that would be impressive. | 13:51 | 
| CypherIce | even if xdandroid is in the root not in the andboot folder | 13:51 | 
| arrrghhh | what kind of horrible apps are you trying? | 13:51 | 
| arrrghhh | shouldn't make a difference. | 13:51 | 
| CypherIce | winamp for example | 13:51 | 
| arrrghhh | winamp has an app? | 13:52 | 
| CypherIce | :$ | 13:52 | 
| CypherIce | why not? | 13:52 | 
| arrrghhh | moneymouth? | 13:52 | 
| arrrghhh | i dunno | 13:52 | 
| arrrghhh | never looked i guess. | 13:52 | 
| arrrghhh | still futzing with mpdroid | 13:52 | 
| CypherIce | mpdroid? unknow | 13:52 | 
| CypherIce | hmm | 13:52 | 
| arrrghhh | it's for mpd users | 13:53 | 
| arrrghhh | not you :P | 13:53 | 
| arrrghhh | i can pretty much guarantee you don't use mpd. | 13:53 | 
| CypherIce | nop | 13:53 | 
| arrrghhh | now that's a guarantee. | 13:53 | 
| CypherIce | not really | 13:53 | 
| CypherIce | that i can confirm | 13:53 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:53 | 
| arrrghhh | you make my brain hurt. | 13:54 | 
| CypherIce | :) | 13:54 | 
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| XirXes | is there a way for me to set xdandroid to log its boot to a file? | 13:54 | 
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| arrrghhh | log its boot...? | 13:54 | 
| arrrghhh | dmesg isn't catching what you need? | 13:54 | 
| XirXes | my sense experimentation keeps failing before it gets to the boot animation and restarting to recovery | 13:55 | 
| XirXes | which just restarts the phone | 13:55 | 
| arrrghhh | oic | 13:56 | 
| arrrghhh | well | 13:56 | 
| CypherIce | 1 question... in the first calibration i do, the amount of pression i apply (using the sytulus) in the calibration is important for the performance later (when not using stylus)? | 13:57 | 
| arrrghhh | you can put commands in the user.conf | 13:57 | 
| arrrghhh | that'll dump files to the SD | 13:57 | 
| arrrghhh | CypherIce, uhm... don't think pressure makes a diff. just accuracy. | 13:57 | 
| CypherIce | hmm thks | 13:58 | 
| XirXes | whats the command in android to show running processes | 13:59 | 
| arrrghhh | in the terminal? | 14:00 | 
| arrrghhh | you can do ps | 14:00 | 
| arrrghhh | or top | 14:00 | 
| arrrghhh | they're linux commands tho :P | 14:00 | 
| XirXes | i figured. im just not a long time linux user. ty | 14:01 | 
| arrrghhh | np | 14:01 | 
| CypherIce | arrrghhh all apps are installed in the sdcard? | 14:05 | 
| CypherIce | i'm in the manage applications | 14:06 | 
| CypherIce | downloaded i have 4 apps, on the sd card i only have 1 of the 4 | 14:06 | 
| arrrghhh | dude | 14:07 | 
| arrrghhh | everything is on the sd | 14:07 | 
| arrrghhh | android knows nothing else. | 14:07 | 
| arrrghhh | it's in the data.img if you want to get technical, but you probably don't. | 14:07 | 
| CypherIce | i could learn something from it LoL | 14:07 | 
| arrrghhh | probably not. | 14:07 | 
| arrrghhh | XirXes, still want to just give him the link? lol | 14:08 | 
| XirXes | lol | 14:08 | 
| arrrghhh | http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/13/windows-phone-7-beats-iphone-4-and-android-in-a-grilling-con/ | 14:17 | 
| arrrghhh | look wp7 is winning at something | 14:17 | 
| XirXes | lol that video made me sad | 14:17 | 
| arrrghhh | why are they doing this? | 14:17 | 
| arrrghhh | the will it blend is awesome. this is just... bizarre. | 14:17 | 
| XirXes | its an ad for the grill | 14:17 | 
| arrrghhh | lol the iphone has a temp warning. that's awesome. | 14:18 | 
| XirXes | and it logs that temp warning so you cant get warrenty service | 14:19 | 
| arrrghhh | nice. | 14:19 | 
| arrrghhh | gotta love apple | 14:19 | 
| XirXes | lol they also do it for exsessive g | 14:19 | 
| arrrghhh | really? | 14:20 | 
| arrrghhh | damn | 14:20 | 
| XirXes | lol | 14:20 | 
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| XirXes | wth? | 14:22 | 
| arrrghhh_ | damn laptop | 14:23 | 
| arrrghhh_ | 1 sec | 14:23 | 
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| arrrghhh | whew. | 14:23 | 
| arrrghhh | this thing likes to lock up when i watch the youtooobs | 14:23 | 
| arrrghhh | or other flash videos | 14:23 | 
| arrrghhh | or anything even remotely graphically intense. | 14:24 | 
| XirXes | awesome | 14:24 | 
| arrrghhh | yea. i need a new lappy. | 14:24 | 
| arrrghhh | worst part is, it did this from the factory. | 14:24 | 
| XirXes | thats lamesauce | 14:24 | 
| arrrghhh | and alienware told me it would cost $400 just to have them look at it, even when it was under warranty. i was livid. | 14:24 | 
| XirXes | I would have taken a gun for them to look at | 14:25 | 
| arrrghhh | yea | 14:25 | 
| arrrghhh | i still cling to the thing, i love the screen. | 14:25 | 
| arrrghhh | but it's a POS other than that. | 14:25 | 
| arrrghhh | plus, i'm poor :P | 14:25 | 
| XirXes | whats the res? | 14:25 | 
| arrrghhh | 1920x1200 | 14:25 | 
| XirXes | nice | 14:25 | 
| arrrghhh | laptop is from 2004 :P | 14:26 | 
| XirXes | i just wanna get a 32" 1080p tv and use it as my moniter | 14:26 | 
| arrrghhh | yea | 14:27 | 
| arrrghhh | probably about the right size for that res. | 14:27 | 
| arrrghhh | it's a little small on a 17" but still gorgeous :P | 14:27 | 
| XirXes | ive got a 22" lcd now but its not big enough for me. plus its only 1680x1050 | 14:28 | 
| XirXes | and I dont like using vga for my xbox | 14:28 | 
| arrrghhh | yea my 19" widescreen is a disappointing 1440x900 | 14:28 | 
| XirXes | sadness | 14:28 | 
| arrrghhh | indeed. | 14:28 | 
| arrrghhh | i wanted a enterprise-class monitor. stupid me. | 14:29 | 
| XirXes | lol | 14:29 | 
| XirXes | YEAH | 14:29 | 
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| arrrghhh | ah well. bill maher time. then i g2g run some errands. joy! | 14:35 | 
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| F22 | now to test wistilt's kernel again...i could have sworn it the volume meter was spot on from the beginning last time. | 15:28 | 
| F22 | i know you said you had to fiddle with a bit before it became accurate arrrghhh. | 15:29 | 
| arrrghhh | yea, he did too... | 15:30 | 
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| F22 | of course that last test was with my screwed up data.img, so who knows... | 15:30 | 
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| F22 | these crashes are making testing hard. | 15:36 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:36 | 
| arrrghhh | yea i'm hoping to get a log of it | 15:37 | 
| arrrghhh | and wistilt is sayin he's knee deep in this section of the code now, so now would be a good time to fix it. | 15:37 | 
| F22 | sounds good to me, maybe it will fix the other sound related problems too. | 15:37 | 
| F22 | i get crashes in pandora too, although far less frequently. i know others have mentioned getting crashes while listening to mp3's. | 15:38 | 
| F22 | wistilt seems to think they're due to the gsensor though. | 15:38 | 
| arrrghhh | yea... i don't agree. | 15:39 | 
| arrrghhh | but we'll see :D | 15:39 | 
| F22 | yup :) | 15:39 | 
| F22 | [QUOTE=Aaron McCarthy;9195372]Just tried this and I'm getting a line that pops up under that says "cp/data/wifi-nvram.txt/sdcard: not found" | 15:45 | 
| F22 | i knew we'd get a few like this... | 15:45 | 
| F22 | maybe i should have put 5 spaces in between .txt and /sdcard instead of just 1. | 15:46 | 
| F22 | so people would clearly see that a space needs to be in there. | 15:46 | 
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:48 | 
| arrrghhh | so much for copy & paste eh? | 15:48 | 
| F22 | lol, copy & paste is too easy for some people. :P | 15:52 | 
| arrrghhh | lmao | 15:53 | 
| arrrghhh | cuz you're going to change it, and then people won't be able to copy&paste. | 15:53 | 
| arrrghhh | are you going to point out the space? | 15:54 | 
| arrrghhh | http://www.funlol.com/15867/Jelly_baby.html | 16:08 | 
| arrrghhh | omg i want to do that | 16:08 | 
| F22 | lol | 16:17 | 
| F22 | you could get into a lot of trouble for that... | 16:19 | 
| F22 | probably safer to toss it onto a parked car, and have them see it the next time they approach their car... :P | 16:19 | 
| F22 | not quite the same heart attack as making them think they're about to slam into a baby. | 16:20 | 
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