Saturday, 2010-11-13

F22:)00:00
F22one more thing though.00:00
pitflyersure00:00
pitflyerits booting now00:00
F22it only recreates wifi-nvram.txt if it doesn't already exist.00:00
pitflyerrm /data/wifi-nvram.txt ?00:00
F22after you've replaced init, blow away...yup :)00:00
F22then reboot00:00
pitflyerin progress. fingers crossed!00:00
F22good luck00:01
pitflyercan not create init: file exists.. do I have to sudo or something similar?00:01
pitflyercant remove init: read only file system00:02
pitflyerstepping away... my wifi-nvram.txt looks clean now, not corrupted --e ven before I changed my init (could not change it). Will repost it.00:07
F22yes00:10
F22sudo needed00:10
arrrghhhwell00:11
arrrghhhsu00:11
F22or su00:11
F22yes00:11
arrrghhhninja'd00:11
F22lol00:11
arrrghhhman i don't know what took me so long to try adb00:13
arrrghhhfreakin love it indeed.00:13
F22:)00:14
pitflyerback after a short hiatus. is there a default password or would sudo have worked without one?00:36
pitflyerFinally, can I ask for a copy of the working wifi-nvram.txt just in case this doesn't work?00:36
arrrghhhno00:36
arrrghhhto both00:36
arrrghhhlol00:36
arrrghhhjust do su00:36
arrrghhhsu <enter>00:36
arrrghhhthen try the init crap00:37
pitflyerahh, nice way to treat the noob :)00:37
arrrghhhhey gotta break you in sometimes.00:37
arrrghhher00:37
arrrghhhsometime00:37
arrrghhhabout like the training i got at work.  throw 'em in the water and see if he sinks or swims.00:38
pitflyerfair enough, I will try it again here (slow process to boot winmo, then boot android again) . If this doesnt work I really would like the demo wifi-nvram so I can at least play around with Android...00:38
arrrghhhi do it all the time, doing it now in fact.00:39
arrrghhhdude we've got you hooked00:39
arrrghhhwe'd like to fix the issue if there is one00:39
arrrghhhwe can't let you go with some cheap fix00:39
arrrghhh:P00:39
pitflyerawww00:39
pitflyerOK I'll play along before I start whining some more00:39
arrrghhhno like we want it fixed for everyone00:39
pitflyeri know.. me too00:40
arrrghhhthat and i don't know what F22 really does, although i could probably just pull mine.00:40
pitflyerok. i'll give the init thing a shot with su00:40
arrrghhhjust weird that it's only a few 210's.00:40
F22give me a sec to get caught up00:40
arrrghhhnothing to read here.00:40
arrrghhhmove along.00:40
F22lol00:41
F22ok00:41
pitflyeri was just begging for the wifi-nvram.txt direct and argh was playing me for the guinea pig :)00:41
F22lol00:43
F22he's absolutely right.00:44
F22after i gave the wifi-nvram.txt to elvin he didn't stick around to help us come up with a permanent fix.00:44
arrrghhhindeed.00:44
arrrghhhso we've got you hooked.00:45
pitflyercant replace init -- read only file sytsem -- even when root00:46
arrrghhhhmmm00:47
arrrghhhyou did su <enter>00:47
arrrghhhit went from # to $ right?00:47
F22hmm....00:59
F22doh01:00
arrrghhhhe hasn't responded.01:00
arrrghhhusing su is kinda confusing if you're not used to linux.01:00
arrrghhhor y'know computers.01:00
arrrghhhcommand-lines.01:00
arrrghhhi love seeing people on the ubuntu-sever section posting "why does my computer boot into dos?"01:01
arrrghhhserver01:01
arrrghhhlol ubuntu-sever01:01
F22root isn't writable01:05
arrrghhhoh01:05
F22unlike /data01:05
arrrghhhmight be a problem.01:05
arrrghhhoh you had him trying to right straight to /init01:05
F22yep01:05
arrrghhhlol didn't even think about that.  herp.01:06
F22that's what i get for splitting my attention between two tasks.01:06
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arrrghhhwhat were you thinking.01:06
eeehi01:06
F22the easiest solution is for him to simply download the latest rootfs01:06
arrrghhhah crap.01:06
eeei'm back01:06
F22hiya01:06
arrrghhhquick, hide!01:06
eeelol01:06
eeeso i was wondering to make tat fix permanent do you have everything you need?01:07
F22pitflyer: download the latest rootfs and install that.01:07
F22that will give you a new init.01:07
F22then blow away wifi-nvram.txt again01:07
arrrghhhwill that really fix it?01:08
arrrghhhi thought the init will just get screwed up again.01:08
F22it should. init is part of rootfs01:08
arrrghhheee, is the fix not permanent?01:08
eeeit is01:08
eeebut make it available to everyone on xda01:08
F22it is as long as he sticks to xdandroid roots.01:08
F22assuming there are no later regressions of course. :P01:09
arrrghhhlol01:09
arrrghhheee, we'd love to.01:09
F22eee, where did you get your android package from?01:09
eeehttp://sites.google.com/site/androidport/downloads01:09
eeethe reference package01:09
eeenot blazn01:10
pitflyerhey, yes, I ran su and got the # prompt01:10
pitflyerI can download the newest rootfs... I assume delete data.img01:10
eeealso I was wondering if any1 has been able to overclock 76801:11
pitflyerso I'm pretty sure I started from scratch and got the broken 'init' issue01:11
pitflyerbut i'll try again01:11
pitflyerI'm downloading rootfs from http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/  right?01:12
arrrghhhyes01:13
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yayhi guys i am having a small problem connecting in windows01:16
yayit used to connect before01:16
yaybut now it doesn't01:16
yayit just says my password is wring01:16
yaywrong01:16
yaywhich i know it isn;t01:17
yayany suggestions?01:17
arrrghhhuh what?01:17
arrrghhhin android?01:17
yayno in windows01:17
arrrghhhlook at what room you joined.01:18
yayandroid works fine01:18
yayi think it may have to do with android01:18
arrrghhhyea pretty sure that's not our problem...01:18
arrrghhhtask 29?01:18
yaybut still any suggestions?01:18
pitflyerOn my Rhod210 Wifi Issue, I am downloading FRX02, RootFs and Zimage from xdandroid.com and starting all the way over.01:19
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F22damn, missed eee01:25
F22i wanted to ask him if he had recently installed a new rootfs too.;01:26
eeeI am here01:26
F22lol01:26
eeei did01:26
F22cool01:26
eeei think the newest one01:26
F22er...i mean cool that you're back.01:26
eeei used the update utility01:26
F22update utility?01:27
pitflyeri tried to download FRX02 from the xdandroid website; apparently that's an EXT2 version...01:27
F22yes it is01:27
pitflyerIs there one that goes straight onto a Fat32 sd card?01:27
pitflyeror do i get that from the google site01:27
F22it does go straight into the fat32 sd card.01:27
F22it's actually an image file01:28
F22linux mounts it via loopback.01:28
F22you don't need to reformat your sd card.01:28
F22it's simply a file containing an image of an ext2 filesystem.01:29
arrrghhhpitflyer, it replaces the old system.ext2 file01:29
pitflyerso my confusion is that I wanted to start from scratch; and the versions from xdandroid dont have andboot directory and haret.exe, etc01:29
pitflyerI downloaded the updated zimage and rootfs, but those other files.. where do I get that base from?01:30
arrrghhhpitflyer, the versions from xdandroid are updates... not complete builds01:30
pitflyerok01:30
arrrghhhrootfs is the only thing you need to update in this case01:30
arrrghhhbut overall, zimage/modules.  rootfs.  initrd (very rare) and system image or system.ext201:30
F22yes, init is part of rootfs, get a new rootfs, you get a new init with it.01:30
arrrghhhnothing else really needs updating...01:31
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pitflyerok. I will do it again, but I just checked and I already had the latest rootfs last tue01:31
pitflyerand I had deleted my data.img, etc01:31
pitflyerbut I will try again01:31
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F22i suppose i could post one of my roots.01:33
F22put it up on media fire.01:33
arrrghhhgiven 'em custom one offs01:33
arrrghhhsigned by F2201:33
F22but my root comes from the repo01:33
arrrghhhlol01:33
F22i just edited the keymaps and built it myself.01:33
arrrghhhdid you ever get all those keymap changes pushed?01:34
F22nah, i'm looking at the layout file now. but i've been distracted the past day and a half with this issue and testing for wistilt2.01:34
arrrghhhhaha no worries.01:34
arrrghhhyea i tend to just drop things when he has stuff to test :D01:35
eee<F22>trying to test the direct calling function01:37
F22i have the keymaps for all the american rhods and the nordic 100 done (not doing the others since i don't have sources for them, although i've asked some of the German rhod users if they'd be willing to make one.)01:37
eee=f2201:37
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F22also have the symbol palette expansion done. that's actually in system.01:38
eeehow do u address a person directly with this chat01:38
F22lol, you did.01:38
F22sorry, was finishing a reply to an earlier comment.01:38
arrrghhheee, tab auto-completes01:38
arrrghhhi guess depending on your client tab autocompletes...01:39
F22eee, what do you mean by "direct calling"?01:39
eeelike how guys address me directly01:39
eeen i hear that beep01:39
eeei use http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Chat01:39
F22i just spell your name exactly like it looks to me.01:40
arrrghhhdoes tab auto-complete?01:40
eeeyea it soes01:40
arrrghhhlike i just hit 'e' then tab01:40
eeedoes01:40
arrrghhhthat's it01:40
eeelet me test01:40
arrrghhhyou'll have to do ar for me01:40
eeearrrghhh: works i'm assuming01:40
arrrghhhindeedy01:40
eeegreat01:40
eeeanother feature learnt01:40
eeeso another thing has anyone been able to overclock 76801:41
eeeMhz01:41
arrrghhhon rhod yea01:41
eeeit seems to work only till 700 for me01:41
eeeat 768 it gets stuck01:41
arrrghhhi heard 700 is the most stable01:41
eeeyea01:41
arrrghhhi do 700 or nothing.01:42
eeebut android is still a bit slow01:42
arrrghhhmeh01:42
arrrghhhit's not perfect01:42
eeeespecially when playing angry birds01:42
eeelol01:42
arrrghhhdamn you.01:42
eeelags like crazy01:42
arrrghhhthe blazn builds are quick01:42
arrrghhhWE DON'T HAVE OPENGLES2.001:42
arrrghhhso angry birds will always lag01:42
arrrghhhALWAYS01:42
eeeoh01:42
arrrghhhget a snapdragon android phone :P01:43
eeeno money for tat01:43
arrrghhhthe hero can't play angry birds either i bet.01:43
eeelo01:43
pitflyertried brand new rootfs.img and rebuilt data.img01:43
arrrghhhhell hamagc said android on his raph is better than it is on his moment sometimes.  which is sad.01:43
pitflyerwifi still doent work01:43
F22i wasn't able to do 768 either01:43
F22a lot of rhods can't hit 768.01:43
F22most of them can do 700 though i've heard.01:44
eeeyea i could reach only 70001:44
eeeat 768 it doesn't boot01:44
F22pitflyer: how does your wifi-nvram.txt look now?01:45
eeeso pitflyer has tried the same solution and it still doesn't work01:45
eee?01:45
pitflyeri am being witheld the file :)01:45
F22what's the first line?01:45
pitflyerone sec, catting01:46
Unholyeee have you tried a donut build? maybe angry birds will be faster with donut, thats if you dont mind the incompability with most apps01:46
eeeunh01:46
pitflyerfirst line is -id=0x2d001:46
arrrghhhi heard the neopeek builds are best for angry poops01:46
pitflyerfile seems otherwise clear text to me01:47
F22first line is still of.01:47
F22off.01:47
F22eee's whole file was screwed up.01:47
eeeUnholy: so i'm guessin that the latest builds on http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/downloads are the best overall01:47
eeeyea it was01:47
arrrghhheee's whole life is screwed up.01:47
eeeu got tat rite01:48
arrrghhhsorry i'm gettin tired.01:48
arrrghhhlol01:48
eeeengineering kills me01:48
pitflyeri am 'more /init' but hard to find exactly the section I want to check01:48
Unholyiv never used cab installation nether that website, look for the donut builds on the raph section01:48
Unholyfuze to be exact01:48
eeebut then you say incompatibilty issues rite?01:49
F22i can show you the section pitflyer. give me a sec.01:49
pitflyerok, well I think I found it01:49
F22ahh...01:49
pitflyerI have the [if /etc/wifi/wlan.ko]01:49
F22what's the order of the lines01:49
pitflyeris that the line that was missing before?01:49
F22they aren't actually missing.01:49
pitflyerdepmod before that line01:49
F22they're in a different order.01:49
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Unholywhell yes eee, donut is very old some apps wont install on it01:50
Unholyits trial and error01:50
pitflyercp -R /etc/wifi/*01:50
pitflyerdepmod01:50
pitflyerthen the if statement01:50
eeeUnholy: i'm guessin my wifi problem would arise again01:50
Unholybut donut is to my knowledge the fastes build01:50
Unholydunno about that01:50
Unholywhat device are you on?01:51
eeerhodium 21001:51
F22[ -f /etc/wifi/wlan.ko ] && rm /etc/wifi/wlan.ko01:51
F22cp -R /etc/wifi/* /data/modules/01:51
F22depmod01:51
F22that's the order i have.01:51
eeeF22 just helped me solve my problem with wifi01:51
Unholythats a tp2 right, dunno man you can always make a separate folder for donut on your sdcard and use rel_path and test it out01:52
eeeyea01:52
pitflyerMine is still different, for sure01:52
pitflyereven though I started with a brand new rootfs01:52
pitflyerstraight from the auto build site01:52
pitflyerits ok to replace rootfs without rebuilding data.img?01:53
Unholyyes01:53
Unholymostly it does not matter01:53
Unholyunless its a system change01:54
pitflyerok i'll try one more time01:54
pitflyeri updated my wifi-nvram, init, dmesg and logcat to http://www.mediafire.com/?1u6b2gbd7myw1hz01:58
pitflyereee -- if you are still there can I get a copy of the wifi-nvram.txt you used that works at least temporarily?02:00
eeegimme a min02:01
pitflyertx. blew away my rootfs.img and started from thje downloaded copy again to see what happens02:02
F22pitflyer, i'm willing to give you a wifi-nvram.txt02:02
F22however one value is specific to the network interface on your device.02:02
pitflyerthe mac02:02
F22i can pull it off the one you gave me though.02:02
F22yes.02:02
pitflyerI know, I'll update that one02:02
F22i have too many things on my plate at this moment to really focus on this, and you've been a good sport. i'll give you the file, but i'd appreciate it if we could continue with this when i'm not otherwise distracted.02:04
pitflyerareed02:04
pitflyeragreed02:04
pitflyerI think its important we fix this for others to avoid this problem.. but I just want to get on for now :)02:04
F22and hopefully it will work for you just as it did for eee. :D02:05
pitflyerjust deleted rootfs and restarted, and order is still cp, depmod, -f statement02:05
pitflyerso something is going on that it is in the wrong order02:06
F22yup. i will take a closer look at the file in the rootfs git.02:07
F22the odd thing is that i have a 210 too, and mine looks good.02:07
eeepitflyer, do u c it?02:07
pitflyerOK. I'll do another debug session with you as schedule permits.. let me know the link for the working wifi-nvram and I'll replace the mac02:07
F22ok, give me a min.02:07
pitflyereee did you send me a link?02:07
eeeis there another tab there?02:08
pitflyeroh yeah, thanks eee02:08
pitflyersorry missed it completely, got it02:08
eeethe place where it says macaddr02:10
eeeput ur mac address in there02:10
eeerite F22 ?02:10
pitflyerhm, I must have some odd thing going on, I can't download the file from the link you sent me02:10
pitflyerthe 'download' text is not a link02:10
F22pitflyer, i just pm'd you the link.02:11
pitflyerGot it, that one worked. Weird that 2shared didnt02:11
pitflyerF22, is that one custom with my mac or should I update?02:11
F22it's custom with your mac.02:11
pitflyerso just copy to sdcard and replace data/wifi-nvram.txt and reboot?02:11
F22yup02:11
pitflyerok, thanks. hope the band aid works.. eee, thanks too02:12
eeeGlad to help wherever i can02:12
eeeso again overclocking is not possible at 768 rite?02:13
F22not with most rhodiums02:13
F22it's up there for the few that can.02:14
F22different chips have different amounts of headroom.02:14
eeedoes it make a difference if you run haret from windows or run it seperately?02:15
F22i believe you can actually raise and lower that clock speed in 19MHz increments from what i recall.02:15
eeefrom a speed perspective02:15
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F22i didn't know it was possible to run haret separately...oh you mean on the console side...02:16
eeelike say if you had a dual boot when you boot your phone02:16
eeen u choose android then02:16
eeeinstead of windows02:16
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F22i don't believe that's currently possible with haret's present design.02:19
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F22haret doesn't just boot the linux kernel, it boots the linux kernel using the hardware initialized to the values set by winmo.02:20
F22need to boot winmo first to get those settings loaded.02:21
pitflyersuccess! so far at least02:21
pitflyermy wifi stayed ona nd I see my access points02:21
F22excellent :)02:21
pitflyerno need to reboot afterwards, just replace wifi-nvram.txt with the one you gave me. I assume the only thing that's custom there is my mac?02:22
F22yup02:22
F22wasn't sure if you needed to reboot or not.02:22
F22with the linux kernel you usually don't.02:22
F22but i haven't actually used wifi myself yet.02:22
F22not with my tp2. :P02:22
F22so i figured just to be safe i'd tell you to reboot the first time.02:23
pitflyerso how do you feel about sharing with the rest of the world? I can write it up on the xda thread.. or would you rather not share the workaround yet?02:23
F22i was thinking about posting it anyway, with XX:XX:XX:XX:XX for the mac address in place of the hex chars.02:24
pitflyersure, exactly02:24
pitflyerps, never been so happy to see google's homepage02:24
pitflyerok.. I'm good for now. F22, if you are busy, I'll share it on XDA next time I'm on.02:24
F22but i also really want to find out what's going on.02:24
F22before you take off...02:25
pitflyergo ahead02:25
F22ok, you probably already said it, but i just want to make sure i have the info, and i'm not sure if i got it form you or eee...02:25
F22which android package did you originally install?02:25
pitflyerfor me-- Reference Build 2.202:26
F22Reef's reference build. ok. Which date?02:26
F22he updates them every so often.02:26
pitflyerReference Build that I downlodaed last Sun02:26
pitflyerlet me see the file date02:26
eeethe nov 1st one for me02:26
eeereference build02:26
F22ok02:26
eeei said it before02:26
pitflyerSame one here02:27
pitflyerchecked date, 11/102:27
F22lol, no doubt, just wanted to make sure i had the info, and i didn't want to make you wait while i looked through the log. :P02:27
pitflyerrootfs from 11/802:27
pitflyerzimage from 11/302:27
F22did you ever try to run it with a rootfs from before 11/8?02:27
pitflyerNot me02:28
F22ok, so the first time you ran android it was with the 11/8 rootfs.02:28
F22i assume the same goes for the zimage.02:29
pitflyerWell, I take that back then.. you aer right. I did try to run it on Mon/Tue with the stuff that came with the ref build from 11/102:29
F22ah, ok.02:29
pitflyerThen on Tue, when it wasn't all working, I replaced my rootfs and zimage, and deleted my data.img too02:29
F22all at the same time?02:30
F22or did you try to run it in between?02:30
pitflyeryes, i did rootfs and zimage at same time02:30
pitflyeri have a spare micro sd, so I can do it all from scratch; format and restart from 11/1 and go straight to new rootfs and zimage02:30
pitflyerif that would be helpful I'l try that tomorrow and report back on xda02:31
F22yes, and try stine's AOSP build instead of Reef's.02:31
F22or do Reef's again, and if it doesn't work, try Stine's AOSP.02:32
pitflyercan you send me a link that includes all the other files (ie haret.exe, etc?)02:32
pitflyerbecause the ones from xdandroid only give me that ext2 file02:32
F22Reef builds his from Stine's. Theoretically they should be the same.02:32
F22http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Main_Page02:32
F22bottom left of that page02:32
pitflyerthis link is what I see: http://files.xdandroid.com/system-FRX02.ext2.zip02:32
F22that's the system.02:33
pitflyerthat only gives me the ext2 file, where shoudl I get the other files like haret.exe, etc?02:33
pitflyerI got all that stuff from the sites.google.com site02:33
F22oh, hmm...you're right.02:33
F22it's not the package. give me a sec.02:33
F22http://htcandroid.xland.cz/?C=M;O=A02:34
F22http://htcandroid.xland.cz/XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.FRX01.17.09.10.UPDATE_PACKAGE.7z02:34
F22the first shows you all the updates available for everything.02:35
F22the 2nd link is the latest version of stinebd's package.02:35
F22just like with reef's you should update the rootfs and kernel.02:35
F22oh and system too.02:35
pitflyerok. I'll do all that tomorrow and report back. Thanks.. going to bed now, happy that I will be able to play on Android tomorrow!02:35
F22:)02:35
F22glad i could help02:36
pitflyergood night!02:36
F22g'nite!02:36
eeeyeah g nite from me 202:36
eeethanks again02:36
F22my pleasure :)02:36
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DjCloudi have a ?09:35
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ftvmhello all09:47
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ftvmhello arrrghhh10:08
ftvmhow are you ?10:08
DjCloudsup arrrggh10:09
DjCloudgood ftvm and u?10:10
ftvmyes ... fine ...10:15
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arrrghhhready to stab people.10:20
arrrghhhdamnit i forgot to turn off my wallpaper swicther lol10:20
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DjCloudlol10:36
DjCloudhey arrrghh can i ask u something?10:36
arrrghhhwat10:39
arrrghhhi'm eating and my support guys woke my ass up.  so it may cost you.10:39
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F22G'Morning arrrghhh11:05
arrrghhhwhat's up F2211:05
F22i find it highly amusing that i'm getting advice to reformat my sdcard from someone who didn't know his phone was a 210 just the other day on the forums.11:06
arrrghhhlmao11:07
arrrghhhthat's awesome11:07
F22apparently he had a similar problem with incoming calls.11:07
F22he says reformatting his sdcard fixed it.11:07
arrrghhhnice11:08
F22i still haven't blown away my data image.11:08
F22been too busy with other stuff11:09
arrrghhhtroubleshoooting step #1 my friend.11:09
arrrghhhi still haven't figured out why a format seems to fix some issues.11:09
arrrghhhusually related to the only ringtone being "silent"11:09
F22interesting11:10
arrrghhhi keep blaming partition table.11:10
arrrghhhand stupid windows not touching it on sd's11:10
arrrghhhso using the hp tool, gparted, basically anything but the windows utility fixes it.11:10
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F22fdisk? :P11:11
arrrghhhhahaha11:11
arrrghhhyes, i'm sure fdisk would be ok :P11:11
F22it's kind of funny that both linux and windows have a partition reformatting tool called the same name.11:12
arrrghhhyea11:13
arrrghhhthat threw me for a loop coming to linux.11:13
F22although the letter f probably stands for different things... ;)11:13
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CypherIcewasup folks11:17
CypherIcearrrghhh real wifi working, finally in the market... :)11:20
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DjCloudok11:31
DjCloudmy thing was actin up11:31
DjCloudi have a question if someone is willing to listen11:31
CypherIceshoot it11:39
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F22blowing away data.img fixed it.11:45
F22i can now take incoming calls.11:46
arrrghhh:D11:46
arrrghhhi wish it didn't work, but it does...11:46
F22something strange is going on there.11:47
arrrghhhindeed11:47
F22there must be something specific in the image...11:47
arrrghhhit just seems to get corrupt and do all sorts of wacky insane things.11:47
F22too many things to investigate, not enough time to figure them all out...11:47
arrrghhhmost of the time someone has an off-the-wall problem that fixes it lol11:47
arrrghhhF22, yea like WisTilt was sayin, one thing at a time.11:47
F22like the init/wifi-nvram.txt mystery that only seems to appear on some, but not all, 210's.11:48
F22then there are the complaints from people with 100's about newer kernels, haven't even looked at those.11:49
arrrghhhyea i know it11:51
arrrghhhtriage triage!11:51
arrrghhhi'm trying to get logs on the reboot volume thing :P11:51
arrrghhhthat's my mission today11:51
F22cool11:52
F22i'm testing wistilt's latest from last night, then time for a shower and off to get a hair cut.11:52
arrrghhhyea i need to get one of those.11:53
arrrghhhalready took the shower haha11:53
F22i'm way overdue.11:53
F22lol11:53
arrrghhhneed to trim my beard, good god.11:53
F22for the haircut that is. ;)11:53
arrrghhhbwhahaha11:53
arrrghhhyea i assumed, but i could see how that could easily be misconstrued.11:53
arrrghhhi'm not that quick in the morning.11:54
arrrghhhespecially after getting woken for NOTHING.  stupid support.11:54
arrrghhhcan't even troubleshoot basic network problems on their own PCs, how can they do it for others remotely?11:54
F22end call works too now. i bet so does my long press power menu.11:55
F22yup, airplane and silent modes are back on the list.11:55
F22lol, i hate doing network support. i'm so glad i'm not doing it anymore.11:56
F22especially over the telephone....*cringe*11:56
F22well it's not so bad if the person i'm supporting has a clue...11:57
arrrghhhwell i'm like teir 2 now11:58
arrrghhhso i don't take all the little piddly calls anymore11:58
arrrghhhmost of my work is project-oriented11:58
arrrghhhbut the retards blamed the switch, said it was in the wrong vlan.  no, the retard changed some settings and tried getting a DHCP lease on a vlan without a DHCP server...11:59
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F22lol12:01
F22i can remember the frustration...12:02
F22and not so fondly...12:02
GlemSomarrrghhh, VLANs are great... But can sure lead to some problems too! :P12:02
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arrrghhhidiots.12:03
arrrghhhGlemSom, when i work with morons, it doesn't help.  let's just say our lan/support team aren't the brightest.12:03
F22hiya GlemSom, how goes?12:06
GlemSomarrrghhh, Yeah, back to the good old IPX days...  :P12:07
arrrghhhhahaha12:07
arrrghhhthere guys are using virtualPCs12:07
GlemSomF22, Fine thanks... Been using most of my day trying to get MythTV 0.24 running (even compiling tool some hours)... so... OK I guess :P12:07
arrrghhhand they can't troubleshoot them to save their lives.12:07
arrrghhhgood ole myth.12:07
arrrghhhi couldn't get it to scan for any channels off my antenna.12:08
arrrghhhi guess it's really only worth it if you pay for cable or satellite...12:08
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F22how's the Myth install coming along? working now? or taking a break?12:08
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GlemSomarrrghhh, What is it you do... Network administrator? Or general systems ?12:09
GlemSomF22, Still setting it up... NX is such a nice thing to have :D12:10
arrrghhhkinda network admin.12:10
arrrghhhwork at a data/voice technician really.12:10
TheDeadCPU_But they're all noobs at his work so he's doing everything12:10
arrrghhhlmao12:10
arrrghhhthere's some smart dudes12:11
arrrghhhjust not in support anymore.12:11
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arrrghhhthere used to be a few smart guys there, but they've all gone haha12:11
F22NX is supposed to be very quick from what I understand.12:12
arrrghhhNX is pretty good.12:13
GlemSomarrrghhh, I work for a smaller company... So, I do mostly everything (Though, mostly NOT paperwork...) everything from supporting a idiotic user who cannot make bold text - to design and implementing solutions...12:13
arrrghhhso long as you have a faxt cxn12:13
GlemSomF22, Yeah - so much better then plain X over tcp/ip12:13
arrrghhhGlemSom, damn.  yea we have architects that plan everything.  network architect, security architect12:14
arrrghhhetc12:14
GlemSomarrrghhh, wow :P12:14
arrrghhhbut we're a pretty big bank :P12:14
GlemSomYou work for google or something ?12:14
arrrghhhoh no.12:14
arrrghhhhaha i wish.12:14
TheDeadCPUWell. My school has these educated people in the IT department.12:14
TheDeadCPUBut I do 75% of their work lol12:14
GlemSomTheDeadCPU, They should pay you to go to school! :P12:17
arrrghhhthey do...12:17
TheDeadCPU:D12:18
arrrghhhwell his gov't does.12:18
CypherIcemy gov should give me a router12:20
CypherIce:)12:20
arrrghhhlol12:20
arrrghhheveryone gets a free router?12:20
arrrghhhyou cheap bastard.12:20
arrrghhh:P12:20
CypherIce:D12:20
CypherIceit would be nice...12:21
XirXeswith wep disabled perminatly12:24
arrrghhhlmao12:24
arrrghhh:D12:24
arrrghhhno mo wep12:24
arrrghhhfor the peoples12:24
CypherIcearrrghhh do u use any battery saving app?12:30
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arrrghhhnah12:30
arrrghhhprobably won't do much good12:30
CypherIcemkay :)12:32
arrrghhhwe need to improve our port12:32
arrrghhhwhich, it has come a long way.12:32
arrrghhhbattery life has made huge improvements12:33
arrrghhhand wistilt has another fix in the pipeline it seems.12:33
CypherIceport? lol (dumm question)12:34
arrrghhhyea12:35
arrrghhhthis is all being reverse engineered12:35
arrrghhh'ported'12:35
arrrghhhto our phones12:35
F22it should be easier now to accomplish now that our battery meter works consistently.12:35
arrrghhhhaha indeed.12:36
arrrghhhwistilt was sayin he was getting 36 hrs12:36
arrrghhhmostly sleep12:36
CypherIcedoes it really works consistently? i'm having a huge drain of battery, the values are always changing12:36
F22it seems pretty accurate on the latest kernels for the rhodium12:36
F22although it may depend on the battery you have.12:36
CypherIcehmm okay12:37
F22if i recall correctly there was some variance depending on your battery model.12:37
CypherIceit would be nice to see here a blackstone user12:37
F22camro developed the battery meter code on a blackstone12:38
CypherIceto save battery?12:38
arrrghhheh12:39
arrrghhhjust a more accurate meter.12:39
F22well he's the developer responsible for the better battery meter, which he put a lot of time into, in the end, all that experimentation burned out his phone.12:39
F22which was a blackstone12:39
arrrghhhyea i think he pushed it a little too far....12:39
arrrghhhunfortunately.12:39
CypherIcea little? lol12:40
CypherIceto burn out...12:40
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arrrghhhyea i'm hoping we can get him a donor device.12:40
CypherIcein a part thats why i dont overclock my device12:40
XirXeswhat happened is his device became unable to detect the battery. so It wouldnt turn on12:41
XirXesit wasnt from overclocking12:41
F22he seemed almost happy to have had his phone burn out on him. it gives him more time to spend on drinking... :P nah, i mean school... :D12:41
XirXeslol12:41
CypherIcelolol12:41
CypherIcewhats the best android device in the market?12:42
F22the man certainly liked to combine his coding with drinking... :P12:42
XirXesnot the sgs12:42
arrrghhhthat's a matter of opinion CypherIce12:42
F22definitely a matter of opinion12:42
CypherIcef22 rotfl12:42
CypherIcehtc for example12:42
CypherIcebest android htc12:42
arrrghhhdesire Z12:42
arrrghhhperhaps12:42
XirXesg212:43
arrrghhhsame12:43
XirXes4 gigs instead of 212:43
arrrghhhoh12:43
arrrghhh:P12:43
arrrghhhbastage12:43
F22right now for htc its the desire z and hd, depending on what your priorities are.12:43
arrrghhhsame hardware lol12:43
CypherIcenice keyboard12:43
CypherIcehd? or hd 2?12:43
arrrghhhi love my tp2 kbd12:43
arrrghhhdesire HD12:43
arrrghhhhd2 is winmo12:43
XirXesthe hd sucks only because of its wimpy battery12:44
CypherIceyeah yeah12:44
CypherIcetp2 kbd? don't know that12:44
arrrghhhtouch pro 2?12:44
arrrghhhbest kbd imho12:44
F22agreed12:44
XirXesdeff12:44
arrrghhhmissing a few keys, but the keyboard itself feels great12:44
F22i wish there were some native devices with 5 row keyboards.12:44
arrrghhhstill waiting on the successor to the tp2.12:45
arrrghhhthey kinda half-baked the device really.12:45
XirXesagreed12:45
arrrghhhno led flash, just reused the proc and ram specs...12:45
arrrghhhyet it's got one of the best physical keyboards.  and the screen is great minus it being resistive.12:45
CypherIcehtc desire 400euros12:45
arrrghhhthat's a lotta peso's12:46
XirXesthe desire is a nice balanced phone12:46
CypherIceif u know what euros are lol12:46
arrrghhhyes, we know what euros are...12:46
F22lol12:46
CypherIce:)12:46
arrrghhhomg interwebs12:46
arrrghhhpeople are outside of my state!12:46
XirXesgood battery and processor.12:47
CypherIcebut a lot of money12:47
F22desire is a little old now. kind of funny, only in the cell phone business is something outdated in 6 months, even the computer field doesn't move quite so quickly, well maybe graphics cards...12:47
CypherIcei can sell my blackstone for 200euros, my htc touch for 40euros and thats it12:47
CypherIcelol12:47
XirXesthe oled models suck tho. make things look pink12:47
XirXeshttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=65612812:48
CypherIceis the mms service running on xdandroid»12:50
CypherIce?12:50
arrrghhhdon't think it works right12:50
arrrghhhit doesn't work on winmo for me12:50
arrrghhhi just check the site12:50
CypherIcehmm i was wondering if i receive a mms when i'm on xdandroid and if theres somekind of bug... can i open it later in winmo?12:52
arrrghhhdunno12:53
arrrghhhsend yourself an mms12:53
CypherIcelol better to ask somebody to send12:54
arrrghhhwhatever.12:54
arrrghhhi don't use mms12:54
arrrghhhlol12:54
CypherIceso u just use or device for developing xdandroid? lol12:57
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XirXesyay12:59
XirXes^12:59
arrrghhhnobody sends me mms13:00
arrrghhhoh he's gone...13:00
arrrghhhsome people's children.13:00
XirXesgod deodexing takes forever13:01
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arrrghhhomg13:21
XirXes?13:21
arrrghhhi think i found a way to fix that dude's adhoc issue13:21
arrrghhhaccidently.13:21
arrrghhhnot going to tell him.13:21
arrrghhhit's not easy :P13:21
XirXeslol nice13:21
arrrghhhalthough the directions are for a hero...13:21
arrrghhhmeh13:21
XirXesjust link it to him and tell him not to expect any help with it if it doesnt work13:22
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arrrghhhha13:29
arrrghhhright13:29
arrrghhhexpect no help...13:29
arrrghhhyou think he'll actually respect that...?13:30
XirXesnah. your right.13:30
arrrghhhlol13:35
arrrghhhi know end users man.  i deal with them on a daily basis :P13:35
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CypherIceomfg so many apps to chose from...13:48
CypherIcedo they all work?13:49
arrrghhhyes13:49
arrrghhhevery single app is guranateed to work...13:49
arrrghhhguaranteed13:50
CypherIcevery nice13:50
arrrghhh100%.13:50
arrrghhhi'm joking.  that doesn't even apply to native android phones.13:50
arrrghhhnative android phones have issues with some apps.  just depends on the app and the phone...13:50
CypherIceand when a app says that has access to the sd card (modify/delete sd card contents), will it remove the xdandroid?13:50
CypherIce-.- nice joke, i was very excited to try each one13:51
arrrghhhlol13:51
arrrghhhno it won't remove xdandroid hahaha13:51
arrrghhhit's not going to remove itself13:51
arrrghhhthat would be impressive.13:51
CypherIceeven if xdandroid is in the root not in the andboot folder13:51
arrrghhhwhat kind of horrible apps are you trying?13:51
arrrghhhshouldn't make a difference.13:51
CypherIcewinamp for example13:51
arrrghhhwinamp has an app?13:52
CypherIce:$13:52
CypherIcewhy not?13:52
arrrghhhmoneymouth?13:52
arrrghhhi dunno13:52
arrrghhhnever looked i guess.13:52
arrrghhhstill futzing with mpdroid13:52
CypherIcempdroid? unknow13:52
CypherIcehmm13:52
arrrghhhit's for mpd users13:53
arrrghhhnot you :P13:53
arrrghhhi can pretty much guarantee you don't use mpd.13:53
CypherIcenop13:53
arrrghhhnow that's a guarantee.13:53
CypherIcenot really13:53
CypherIcethat i can confirm13:53
arrrghhhlol13:53
arrrghhhyou make my brain hurt.13:54
CypherIce:)13:54
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XirXesis there a way for me to set xdandroid to log its boot to a file?13:54
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arrrghhhlog its boot...?13:54
arrrghhhdmesg isn't catching what you need?13:54
XirXesmy sense experimentation keeps failing before it gets to the boot animation and restarting to recovery13:55
XirXeswhich just restarts the phone13:55
arrrghhhoic13:56
arrrghhhwell13:56
CypherIce1 question... in the first calibration i do, the amount of pression i apply (using the sytulus) in the calibration is important for the performance later (when not using stylus)?13:57
arrrghhhyou can put commands in the user.conf13:57
arrrghhhthat'll dump files to the SD13:57
arrrghhhCypherIce, uhm... don't think pressure makes a diff.  just accuracy.13:57
CypherIcehmm thks13:58
XirXeswhats the command in android to show running processes13:59
arrrghhhin the terminal?14:00
arrrghhhyou can do ps14:00
arrrghhhor top14:00
arrrghhhthey're linux commands tho :P14:00
XirXesi figured. im just not a long time linux user. ty14:01
arrrghhhnp14:01
CypherIcearrrghhh all apps are installed in the sdcard?14:05
CypherIcei'm in the manage applications14:06
CypherIcedownloaded i have 4 apps, on the sd card i only have 1 of the 414:06
arrrghhhdude14:07
arrrghhheverything is on the sd14:07
arrrghhhandroid knows nothing else.14:07
arrrghhhit's in the data.img if you want to get technical, but you probably don't.14:07
CypherIcei could learn something from it LoL14:07
arrrghhhprobably not.14:07
arrrghhhXirXes, still want to just give him the link?  lol14:08
XirXeslol14:08
arrrghhhhttp://www.engadget.com/2010/11/13/windows-phone-7-beats-iphone-4-and-android-in-a-grilling-con/14:17
arrrghhhlook wp7 is winning at something14:17
XirXeslol that video made me sad14:17
arrrghhhwhy are they doing this?14:17
arrrghhhthe will it blend is awesome.  this is just... bizarre.14:17
XirXesits an ad for the grill14:17
arrrghhhlol the iphone has a temp warning.  that's awesome.14:18
XirXesand it logs that temp warning so you cant get warrenty service14:19
arrrghhhnice.14:19
arrrghhhgotta love apple14:19
XirXeslol they also do it for exsessive g14:19
arrrghhhreally?14:20
arrrghhhdamn14:20
XirXeslol14:20
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XirXeswth?14:22
arrrghhh_damn laptop14:23
arrrghhh_1 sec14:23
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arrrghhhwhew.14:23
arrrghhhthis thing likes to lock up when i watch the youtooobs14:23
arrrghhhor other flash videos14:23
arrrghhhor anything even remotely graphically intense.14:24
XirXesawesome14:24
arrrghhhyea.  i need a new lappy.14:24
arrrghhhworst part is, it did this from the factory.14:24
XirXesthats lamesauce14:24
arrrghhhand alienware told me it would cost $400 just to have them look at it, even when it was under warranty.  i was livid.14:24
XirXesI would have taken a gun for them to look at14:25
arrrghhhyea14:25
arrrghhhi still cling to the thing, i love the screen.14:25
arrrghhhbut it's a POS other than that.14:25
arrrghhhplus, i'm poor :P14:25
XirXeswhats the res?14:25
arrrghhh1920x120014:25
XirXesnice14:25
arrrghhhlaptop is from 2004 :P14:26
XirXesi just wanna get a 32" 1080p tv and use it as my moniter14:26
arrrghhhyea14:27
arrrghhhprobably about the right size for that res.14:27
arrrghhhit's a little small on a 17" but still gorgeous :P14:27
XirXesive got a 22" lcd now but its not big enough for me. plus its only 1680x105014:28
XirXesand I dont like using vga for my xbox14:28
arrrghhhyea my 19" widescreen is a disappointing 1440x90014:28
XirXessadness14:28
arrrghhhindeed.14:28
arrrghhhi wanted a enterprise-class monitor.  stupid me.14:29
XirXeslol14:29
XirXesYEAH14:29
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arrrghhhah well.  bill maher time.  then i g2g run some errands.  joy!14:35
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F22now to test wistilt's kernel again...i could have sworn it the volume meter was spot on from the beginning last time.15:28
F22i know you said you had to fiddle with a bit before it became accurate arrrghhh.15:29
arrrghhhyea, he did too...15:30
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F22of course that last test was with my screwed up data.img, so who knows...15:30
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F22these crashes are making testing hard.15:36
arrrghhhlol15:36
arrrghhhyea i'm hoping to get a log of it15:37
arrrghhhand wistilt is sayin he's knee deep in this section of the code now, so now would be a good time to fix it.15:37
F22sounds good to me, maybe it will fix the other sound related problems too.15:37
F22i get crashes in pandora too, although far less frequently. i know others have mentioned getting crashes while listening to mp3's.15:38
F22wistilt seems to think they're due to the gsensor though.15:38
arrrghhhyea... i don't agree.15:39
arrrghhhbut we'll see :D15:39
F22yup :)15:39
F22[QUOTE=Aaron McCarthy;9195372]Just tried this and I'm getting a line that pops up under that says "cp/data/wifi-nvram.txt/sdcard: not found"15:45
F22i knew we'd get a few like this...15:45
F22maybe i should have put 5 spaces in between .txt and /sdcard instead of just 1.15:46
F22so people would clearly see that a space needs to be in there.15:46
arrrghhhlol15:48
arrrghhhso much for copy & paste eh?15:48
F22lol, copy & paste is too easy for some people. :P15:52
arrrghhhlmao15:53
arrrghhhcuz you're going to change it, and then people won't be able to copy&paste.15:53
arrrghhhare you going to point out the space?15:54
arrrghhhhttp://www.funlol.com/15867/Jelly_baby.html16:08
arrrghhhomg i want to do that16:08
F22lol16:17
F22you could get into a lot of trouble for that...16:19
F22probably safer to toss it onto a parked car, and have them see it the next time they approach their car... :P16:19
F22not quite the same heart attack as making them think they're about to slam into a baby.16:20
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