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Chilion | Gudmrnin | 06:23 |
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Chilion | Any expectation when the next release will come? | 06:23 |
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ftvm | hello ... | 06:58 |
ftvm | hello, Is there a linux developer?? | 06:59 |
ftvm | please | 06:59 |
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F22 | connection problems? | 09:34 |
F22 | i guess that's a yes. :P | 09:35 |
arrrghhh | my laptop at home. | 09:35 |
arrrghhh | is dumb | 09:35 |
F22 | it's running windows? | 09:35 |
arrrghhh | well | 09:36 |
arrrghhh | it runs both | 09:36 |
arrrghhh | in linux it doesn't sleep so well for some reason. | 09:36 |
F22 | ah, dual boot | 09:36 |
arrrghhh | i have it set to sleep when the lid is closed. works every time in win7. fails 2/5 times in ubuntu. | 09:36 |
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arrrghhh | ahhhh. gf shut it down :D | 09:36 |
F22 | lol | 09:36 |
arrrghhh | i usually just close the lid and forget about it. | 09:37 |
F22 | girlfriends are bad for sleep... ;) | 09:37 |
arrrghhh | but i have to watch it when i'm in ubuntu :P i was a little late this morning. | 09:37 |
arrrghhh | yes indeed haha. | 09:37 |
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arrrghhh | what's funny is the laptop has issues booting in win7, and sleeping with linux. | 09:45 |
F22 | lol | 09:47 |
F22 | your laptop clearly has a preference... | 09:47 |
F22 | i don't blame it either. :P | 09:47 |
arrrghhh | lol so do i | 09:48 |
arrrghhh | unfortunately for work i must use win7. | 09:48 |
arrrghhh | well win-something at least. | 09:48 |
F22 | well win7 is better than Vista at least. | 09:50 |
arrrghhh | indeede | 09:50 |
arrrghhh | i skipped vista entirely, what a waste. | 09:50 |
arrrghhh | so did you make any progress with mr. ungrateful? | 09:50 |
F22 | Win7 has its good points, and if i sad here for a few hours i could probably think of a few. :P | 09:50 |
F22 | sad=sat | 09:50 |
F22 | eee_'s wifi problem? | 09:51 |
F22 | he seemed rather grateful afterward. | 09:51 |
arrrghhh | lol that's good | 09:52 |
arrrghhh | didja fix it? | 09:52 |
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F22 | the wifi-nvram.txt i gave him fixed it. | 09:52 |
arrrghhh | dude. | 09:52 |
arrrghhh | that's awesome! still doesn't answer why init didn't create a valid one lol | 09:52 |
F22 | nope. | 09:53 |
F22 | i put up a post about it in the thread on xda. | 09:53 |
arrrghhh | that's cool. | 09:53 |
arrrghhh | at least the poor 210 users that don't have data cxns can have some wifi love. | 09:53 |
F22 | pitflyer still has the problem, i asked him to post his init and to tell us a bit about his install. | 09:53 |
arrrghhh | even after putting the wifi-nvram file in manually? hm | 09:54 |
F22 | no..haven't given pitflyer a wifi-nvram of his own. | 09:54 |
F22 | i'm holding off on that. | 09:54 |
F22 | i'm not interested in giving everyone their own nvram unless there is no other choice. | 09:55 |
F22 | first i want to see his init. | 09:55 |
arrrghhh | oic | 09:55 |
arrrghhh | i forget you have to create them for the rubes. | 09:55 |
F22 | yup, need to add in their mac addresses. | 09:56 |
F22 | probably a bad init floating around... | 09:56 |
F22 | if so, grabbing a new rootfs and then blowing away your old wifi-nvram is probably the easiest solution. | 09:57 |
F22 | er, grabbing a new rootfs and blowing away your old data.img is the easiest. | 09:57 |
arrrghhh | yea. | 09:58 |
arrrghhh | lol | 09:58 |
arrrghhh | we've tried that tho dude | 09:58 |
arrrghhh | we've tried completely clean builds with these guys. | 09:58 |
arrrghhh | unless they're just lying to me :P | 09:58 |
F22 | hmm...what rootfs are they using on their clean builds? | 09:58 |
F22 | that bad init (if that's what it is) must be attached to something they're downloading. | 09:59 |
arrrghhh | hrm. | 10:00 |
arrrghhh | i swear i've had them blow out rootfs, modules&zimage and replace all with the newest before booting. | 10:00 |
arrrghhh | but who knows if they did it all correctly. | 10:00 |
arrrghhh | they may have not deleted or renamed the rootfs and were running on an old one... | 10:00 |
F22 | yup, some users get confused, then fib rather then admit they have no clue. | 10:01 |
arrrghhh | yup. | 10:02 |
arrrghhh | i'm in IT, i know the drill. | 10:02 |
F22 | there were 3 wifi-related lines in eee_'s init that were in a different order than they were in mine. | 10:02 |
arrrghhh | why do you think i'm such an asshole lol. i test people to see if they know what they're talking about. | 10:02 |
F22 | lol | 10:02 |
arrrghhh | odd. | 10:02 |
F22 | yep | 10:02 |
F22 | if pitflyer's init has the same issue, then i'll give him my init to swap with his. | 10:03 |
F22 | then have him blow away wifi-nvram and see if that works. | 10:04 |
arrrghhh | stupid. | 10:04 |
ftvm | hello all ... | 10:04 |
arrrghhh | i wonder who can help with this | 10:04 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, haven't seen you chime in at all with the wifi fun :P | 10:05 |
ftvm | Is there a linux developer?? | 10:05 |
ftvm | please ... | 10:05 |
arrrghhh | oy ve | 10:05 |
F22 | lol | 10:05 |
arrrghhh | what do you need now... | 10:05 |
F22 | i believe his problem is diamond sound... | 10:06 |
F22 | neither is an area i know much about. | 10:06 |
ftvm | i found the problem for the sound stutter ... | 10:06 |
F22 | you found it? | 10:06 |
arrrghhh | you found the problem eh? | 10:06 |
ftvm | yes | 10:06 |
ftvm | you have reason ... setting battery is cause of problem | 10:07 |
arrrghhh | why? | 10:07 |
arrrghhh | do you mean the dmesg spam is the reason...? | 10:07 |
ftvm | i have kill process 28 and sound no stutering no | 10:07 |
ftvm | now | 10:07 |
ftvm | sorry | 10:07 |
arrrghhh | what processes...? | 10:08 |
ftvm | look please | 10:08 |
F22 | 28 is just a process id, what was the name of the process? | 10:08 |
arrrghhh | oh i thought he said he killed 28 processes lmao. | 10:08 |
ftvm | kill -9 28 | 10:08 |
arrrghhh | ah yes | 10:08 |
arrrghhh | that's the PID | 10:08 |
arrrghhh | what process is that? | 10:08 |
ftvm | this abort this problem | 10:09 |
arrrghhh | i hope you didn't just randomly killed it | 10:09 |
arrrghhh | kill* | 10:09 |
ftvm | W/BatteryStatsImpl( 1255): Couldn't get kernel wake lock stats | 10:09 |
ftvm | and | 10:09 |
ftvm | E/Tethering( 1255): attempting to remove unknown iface (usb0), ignoring | 10:09 |
ftvm | what ??? | 10:09 |
F22 | you killed 28, not 1255. | 10:09 |
arrrghhh | that's for usb tethering. | 10:09 |
F22 | what made you decide to kill 28? | 10:10 |
arrrghhh | it said it ignored it too lol | 10:10 |
ftvm | 28 is battery ... process | 10:10 |
arrrghhh | hmmm | 10:10 |
F22 | hmmm | 10:10 |
F22 | :P | 10:10 |
arrrghhh | i must boot android too see wth he's talking about. | 10:10 |
ftvm | but ... the power consommation was change | 10:10 |
arrrghhh | lol i bet it did | 10:11 |
ftvm | yes | 10:11 |
ftvm | i add line command in the section appropriate | 10:11 |
ftvm | kill -9 28 lol | 10:11 |
ftvm | sound work fine ... grrrrrrrrrrrrr lol | 10:11 |
arrrghhh | sound isn't that important, is it? | 10:11 |
F22 | camro's battery code has a reputation for being ugly....i wouldn't be surprised if there were some "side-effects"... | 10:11 |
arrrghhh | yea. | 10:12 |
arrrghhh | he would code furiously tho lol | 10:12 |
arrrghhh | poor guy mucked with his battery too much tho... | 10:12 |
F22 | fried his own phone... :( | 10:13 |
ftvm | but it'll be better to arrange the Kernet accordingly! | 10:13 |
arrrghhh | Kernet the Frog here... | 10:13 |
ftvm | kernel lol | 10:16 |
arrrghhh | sorry couldn't help it, that was the first thing i thought of when i read that lol | 10:17 |
ftvm | yes | 10:18 |
arrrghhh | no | 10:18 |
arrrghhh | so ftvm did you just kill a process you found that had the word battery in it basically? | 10:20 |
ftvm | yes | 10:20 |
ftvm | if process 28 is execute ... this sound is poor .. | 10:21 |
ftvm | i know, is stupid !!! :( | 10:21 |
F22 | hmm... | 10:22 |
F22 | did you look at your process in adb? or in the terminal emulator? | 10:22 |
arrrghhh | oh i see the process | 10:22 |
arrrghhh | [battery] | 10:22 |
ftvm | yes | 10:23 |
arrrghhh | weird lookin process. not that i know what a normal one should look like, but that looks weird lol | 10:23 |
ftvm | with adb shell | 10:23 |
ftvm | but I'm scared for battery consumption, I did not test! | 10:25 |
arrrghhh | well it's not like android is being used full-time... | 10:26 |
ftvm | ah ok | 10:27 |
F22 | hmm...all the processes listed in that format are lower numbers, stuff that gets started right after boot. | 10:27 |
F22 | aside from init.android itself | 10:28 |
ftvm | test with last kernel 11/11 and las rootfs etc ... | 10:29 |
ftvm | last | 10:29 |
F22 | does this issue only effect the diamond? | 10:30 |
ftvm | euhhhhhhhhh | 10:31 |
arrrghhh | seems to F22 . | 10:31 |
ftvm | i' don't know ... | 10:31 |
arrrghhh | i don't know why tho, cuz all our phones have the same crappy processor. | 10:31 |
F22 | pity there aren't many active diamond developers left. | 10:31 |
arrrghhh | eh that device was always a POS :P | 10:32 |
arrrghhh | who wants a touchpro without a keyboard? lol | 10:32 |
ftvm | it can not depend firmware too? | 10:32 |
arrrghhh | firmware of what? | 10:33 |
arrrghhh | you're radio!?! | 10:33 |
arrrghhh | or do you mean your WinMo ROM...? | 10:33 |
arrrghhh | sorry your :P | 10:33 |
arrrghhh | you are radio haha | 10:33 |
ftvm | yes rom winmo ... | 10:34 |
ftvm | i'don't know ... | 10:34 |
arrrghhh | yes, you don't ;) | 10:34 |
arrrghhh | but neither do we.. the battery code definitely seems suspect. | 10:35 |
arrrghhh | fixing it is a whole 'nother beast. | 10:35 |
arrrghhh | weird that no other DIAM users seem to have the issue tho | 10:35 |
arrrghhh | at least hamagc didn't. | 10:35 |
ftvm | ok | 10:35 |
F22 | he has a DIAM? | 10:35 |
arrrghhh | yea, he's got a plethora of old crappy phones. | 10:35 |
arrrghhh | and now he's got a newer crappy phone :P | 10:36 |
F22 | lol | 10:37 |
F22 | his moment... | 10:37 |
arrrghhh | yessir | 10:40 |
arrrghhh | which he says xdandroid runs better on his old 528mhz phones than his new OEM 800mhz phone. | 10:40 |
arrrghhh | i guess sammy oc'd the crap out of that proc to get it at 800 mhz tho lol | 10:40 |
F22 | same gen cpu as the old phones. 2.2 was a significant speed increase for those phones that got it. So the inability to run 2.2 probably countered the extra clock cycles. | 10:42 |
F22 | we're better off putting 2.2 on our overclocked older cpu's. :D | 10:43 |
F22 | they're not really that much older, at least the designs aren't. | 10:43 |
F22 | someone should give camro a phone so he can continue to troubleshoot his battery code. :P | 10:45 |
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arrrghhh | yea i've said that before. | 10:48 |
arrrghhh | i'm hoping we can get him a donor. | 10:48 |
ftvm | so now what ??? lol | 10:49 |
arrrghhh | ftvm: learn c? | 10:49 |
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F22 | ftvm: which kernel did you say was the last good one? | 10:53 |
arrrghhh | 10.5 right? | 10:53 |
ftvm | yes | 10:53 |
arrrghhh | it was right before the first huge battery commit | 10:53 |
ftvm | 10.5 the first ... | 10:53 |
ftvm | not second | 10:53 |
ftvm | two kernel ... the 10/5 | 10:54 |
ftvm | the 10/05 00h58 | 10:54 |
F22 | only see one kernel commit for 10/5, ACL's commit of Camro & VirusCrazy's battery code. | 10:55 |
F22 | two commits for 10/4. | 10:55 |
F22 | ah, i see glemsom released 2 on the 5th. | 11:00 |
F22 | none on the 4th | 11:00 |
F22 | the autobuild must have been down | 11:01 |
ftvm | yes | 11:03 |
ftvm | all kernel tested before ... working with sound | 11:03 |
F22 | so why doesn't hamagic also have the issue? what could explain that? | 11:03 |
ftvm | all ... to 09/17 ... | 11:04 |
ftvm | hmmmmmmm ... hamagc work with diam 500 | 11:05 |
ftvm | but, difference is juste cdma phone ... lol | 11:05 |
F22 | which is the cdma? his? the 500? | 11:06 |
ftvm | yes | 11:06 |
arrrghhh | yes | 11:06 |
arrrghhh | i believe the only diff is the radio. | 11:06 |
arrrghhh | i don't think it was crippled like the raph500 vs all other raph's. | 11:06 |
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ftvm | yes | 11:09 |
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XirXes | if the diam 500 is the verizon branded one its the one that got ram nerfed | 11:13 |
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arrrghhh | XirXes: i thought that was just the raph...? | 11:13 |
XirXes | i just checked pdadb and the 500 actually has more ram thatn the others | 11:15 |
arrrghhh | lmao | 11:15 |
XirXes | its the sprint one with 288 mb ram | 11:15 |
arrrghhh | hrm... | 11:15 |
arrrghhh | well that kinda changes things. | 11:16 |
arrrghhh | damnit. phh do you still have a DIAM? I can't remember what you have anymore. | 11:16 |
XirXes | plus it has an msm 7501a. | 11:17 |
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XirXes | all the rest of the diam have 192 mb ram | 11:18 |
arrrghhh | different proc too? | 11:19 |
arrrghhh | weird. | 11:19 |
XirXes | its cause its cdma. the rhod 500 has a msm7600 | 11:19 |
arrrghhh | ja | 11:20 |
arrrghhh | but the raph500 was crippled in the RAM area | 11:20 |
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arrrghhh | while the raph800 got plenty. | 11:20 |
XirXes | they put it down at 192. im assuming to not make it better than the diamond | 11:21 |
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arrrghhh | ah well there may be something to ftvm's issues, but who knows. | 11:21 |
arrrghhh | JesusFreak316: wtf man. | 11:21 |
XirXes | i think its funny that sprint went the other direction with that call and increased the diamonds ram. | 11:23 |
arrrghhh | yea | 11:23 |
arrrghhh | sprint seems to have pretty strict testing tho. | 11:23 |
XirXes | and all that time t-mobile was rocking the wing | 11:24 |
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F22 | lol | 11:24 |
ftvm | a flash the rom might be useful for mine | 11:25 |
XirXes | but it likely wouldnt be wise | 11:25 |
XirXes | plus xdandroid isnt at that stage yet | 11:25 |
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arrrghhh | puttin the cart before the horse eh ftvm ? | 11:40 |
arrrghhh | android isn't so ready for full-time usage on our phones. | 11:41 |
arrrghhh | i mean your sound isn't even stable lol i wouldn't want to flash that. | 11:41 |
ftvm | ok yes | 11:42 |
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ftvm | no arrrghhh, i speak of ecorom ...or rom light ... | 11:50 |
arrrghhh | ok... | 11:53 |
ftvm | good idea or no ??? | 11:56 |
arrrghhh | no. | 11:57 |
arrrghhh | i don't know | 11:57 |
ftvm | ok | 11:57 |
XirXes | whats the terminal command for making it drescribe a file | 12:13 |
arrrghhh | ...? | 12:14 |
XirXes | i dont remember what it was but when used it would list things about the file | 12:15 |
arrrghhh | ls -l? | 12:15 |
arrrghhh | ls is like dir | 12:15 |
arrrghhh | and you can pass many other switches to it | 12:15 |
arrrghhh | ls -lah for example. | 12:15 |
arrrghhh | list things about it... that would be my best guess. | 12:15 |
arrrghhh | cat would list what's inside the file ;) | 12:15 |
XirXes | alright ty | 12:16 |
arrrghhh | is that what you wanted...? | 12:16 |
XirXes | no... ah well. im just experimenting with a desire z rom and I wanted to find out what file system system.img was using out of the desire z's eu ruu | 12:19 |
arrrghhh | oh | 12:19 |
arrrghhh | no clue | 12:19 |
arrrghhh | we build in ext2. | 12:19 |
XirXes | im hoping its not in broken old squashfs my debian virtual machine blows | 12:20 |
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XirXes | sweet. htc does aswell | 12:23 |
xdandroid | Donation received! Thanks, Christian Blackburn, who says: Please try and get the camera working on my HTC Fuze. | 12:23 |
arrrghhh | lol | 12:24 |
arrrghhh | we'll get right on that Mr. Blackburn. | 12:24 |
XirXes | lol | 12:24 |
XirXes | this system.img is 558 mb omg | 12:25 |
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XirXes | im just gunna try deodexing it and wedging it into an xdandroid system.img | 12:28 |
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arrrghhh | have fun | 12:36 |
XirXes | even if it doesnt work. (which is likely) ill still be learning how to do things ill like to do when I get an android phone | 12:38 |
arrrghhh | haha | 12:38 |
XirXes | oh no I have to use windows for deodexing | 12:42 |
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cypherice | hi all | 12:50 |
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Aks | heyeee | 12:53 |
Aks | anyone looking forward to nexus S | 12:53 |
arrrghhh | meh | 12:55 |
Aks | samsung have not yet confirmed it ... but htere is news abt it | 12:56 |
arrrghhh | don't care about sammy. | 12:57 |
XirXes | it doesnt look bad. but i would much rather get the g2 | 12:57 |
Aks | g2 is only avlabl on tM | 12:58 |
Aks | for $30 extra each mo | 12:58 |
Aks | for data | 12:58 |
XirXes | the nexus s is rumered to have aws 3g | 12:58 |
XirXes | as in t-mobile | 12:58 |
XirXes | and i already pay that on my tp2 | 12:59 |
Aks | well .. at least they are coming out with a $10 data plan | 13:00 |
XirXes | yeah. ive never gotten close to 5 gigs | 13:00 |
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cypherice | hey, should i overclock or not my blackstone with the latest xdandroid version? | 13:01 |
arrrghhh | your call | 13:01 |
arrrghhh | try both, see which you prefer. | 13:01 |
cypherice | just changing this line in the startup.txt right? acpuclock.oc_freq_khz=710000 | 13:02 |
cypherice | there it's overclocked to 710mhz... right? | 13:02 |
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XirXes | not exactly. 1 mhz = 1024 khz | 13:03 |
XirXes | but yeah, thats the line for oc | 13:03 |
arrrghhh | and i think the increments have to be pretty rigid | 13:03 |
cypherice | so what's the standard value? 528000 | 13:03 |
arrrghhh | like 19.2mhz increments? | 13:03 |
arrrghhh | cypherice: standard is nothing. | 13:03 |
arrrghhh | no setting in the startup is 'standard' | 13:03 |
arrrghhh | but our clock speed is 528mhz yes. | 13:04 |
XirXes | 540672 is the default clock | 13:04 |
arrrghhh | lol there you go | 13:05 |
arrrghhh | 716800 is 700mhz | 13:05 |
arrrghhh | 786432 is the highest reported "stable" value on the RHOD. 768mhz basically. | 13:05 |
cypherice | nice, now i got the default value | 13:05 |
arrrghhh | 700 seems good to me. | 13:05 |
cypherice | but i have blackstone | 13:05 |
arrrghhh | cypherice: it's in the faq | 13:06 |
arrrghhh | it's the same proc, is it not? | 13:06 |
arrrghhh | we don't all have the exact same device as you... | 13:06 |
cypherice | yeah, i know | 13:06 |
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Tandyman100 | Did you guys listen to the PPCGP? | 13:11 |
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XirXes | hm. the desire z has the same wifi chipset as the tp2 | 13:22 |
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F22 | BCM4329? | 13:34 |
XirXes | if only there was an spl mode for being a card reader. I would never need winmo again | 13:34 |
XirXes | yed | 13:34 |
XirXes | yes | 13:34 |
F22 | cool, shame we didn't have the source code for that a few months earlier then. :P | 13:35 |
XirXes | lol | 13:35 |
XirXes | im gunna try and boot with what is essentially a desire z system.img with the stuff unique to xdandroid droped in. | 13:37 |
F22 | btw, on a linux/unix system, the file command will you what kind of file something is. file * would give you info on all the files in the directory. Problem is it doesn't seem to be rpesent in android. | 13:38 |
F22 | will you=will tell you | 13:38 |
XirXes | I thought there was something like that | 13:38 |
XirXes | this system.img is 558 mb | 13:40 |
XirXes | do you think I'll need to inflate the data.img to make this work? | 13:41 |
arrrghhh | shouldn't matter... lol keyword being shouldn't. | 13:42 |
XirXes | i didnt think so | 13:42 |
Unholy | xirxes make shure you change the bootclasspath, to even have a chance of that working | 13:44 |
XirXes | how would I do that? | 13:44 |
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Unholy | mount the rootfs.img look for the froyo init.rc | 13:45 |
Unholy | and change it | 13:45 |
Unholy | you also need the desire z bootclass path | 13:45 |
xdandroid | New XDAndroid Releases bug 56 filed... | 13:56 |
xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=56 minor, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Operator H3G not shown in available network nor in the clock window | 13:56 |
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CypherIce | how do i install the 2.2.1 FRX02? when i unzip it to the andboot directory it onlys extracts one file... | 14:05 |
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CypherIce | do i install the Froyo 2.2 CAB and then unzip the FRX02 system file to the andboot directory? | 14:09 |
* JesusFreak316 put his HD2 up 'til Christmas. :( | 14:10 | |
XirXes | Why jesus?! | 14:10 |
JesusFreak316 | I'm no good at deception. :) | 14:11 |
XirXes | lol | 14:11 |
F22 | Cypherice: FRX02 is just the latest system.ext2, not the complete package. | 14:11 |
JesusFreak316 | Plus I wouldn't be able to let anyone see me use it for a month and a half. Yeah right. | 14:11 |
XirXes | yeah... i wouldnt be able to either | 14:12 |
CypherIce | F22 so i install the froyo first and then replace the system.ext2 file? | 14:12 |
JesusFreak316 | F22, what he said is still valid though... | 14:12 |
XirXes | CypherIce, yes | 14:12 |
F22 | yes | 14:12 |
JesusFreak316 | Cypherice: Yes, | 14:12 |
JesusFreak316 | Double ninja'd. :( | 14:12 |
F22 | lol | 14:13 |
CypherIce | lolol | 14:13 |
XirXes | and dont use the startup util. ever. | 14:13 |
F22 | lol | 14:13 |
JesusFreak316 | ^THIS | 14:13 |
JesusFreak316 | Oh look my startup.txt is 0 bytes, AGAIN! | 14:13 |
F22 | there do seem to be a lot of complaints about the startup util of late. | 14:13 |
CypherIce | <XirXes> and dont use the startup util. ever. <---- me? | 14:14 |
XirXes | its not actually its fault. well kinda. startup.txt doesnt get wiped till fdsk finds it during boot | 14:14 |
XirXes | CypherIce, yes | 14:14 |
XirXes | the tool has problems | 14:15 |
CypherIce | i use directly the haret.exe, right? | 14:15 |
XirXes | yeah | 14:15 |
JesusFreak316 | Or gen-y dual boot is pretty convenient. | 14:15 |
F22 | you've looked at it more closely XirX? why is it getting wiped when fdisk finds it? | 14:15 |
JesusFreak316 | Does that detect andboot builds without registry editing though? | 14:16 |
XirXes | i dont know. I just saw it in the dmesg after using the util | 14:16 |
XirXes | i just quit using the tool as opposed to investigating | 14:16 |
XirXes | no. you have to reg edit | 14:17 |
JesusFreak316 | Well, then that's no option I guess. :) | 14:17 |
F22 | i've never used the startup utility at all. when i first tried out android it didn't exist, and now that i'm back, blazn is way out of date so i didn't bother with it. besides, i prefer to build my own stuff. :D | 14:17 |
ftvm | ses you later ... soon | 14:18 |
XirXes | i modified the gen y cab to install with that reg edit so I could use it in xdauc | 14:18 |
arrrghhh | quit using the tool was my solution too | 14:19 |
ftvm | bye | 14:19 |
JesusFreak316 | So, what were you trying to tell me earlier arrrghhh? It was annoying how much I was disconnecting? | 14:20 |
F22 | the startup util thread should probably be stickied. | 14:20 |
JesusFreak316 | Flaky school Wifi is flaky. | 14:20 |
F22 | startup should also probably be taken out of the general xdandroid thread too. | 14:20 |
arrrghhh | yea dude. the room was full of jesusfreaks. | 14:20 |
arrrghhh | and they weren't saying anything. | 14:20 |
JesusFreak316 | Multiples of me? | 14:21 |
F22 | yep, it was downright freaky! :P | 14:21 |
arrrghhh | no you just kept disconnecting and reconnecting :P | 14:21 |
JesusFreak316 | Oh, boo. | 14:21 |
arrrghhh | F22: reef'll never do it lol it's his baby. just like the cab installer. | 14:21 |
F22 | blazn is his neglected baby and the startup util i thought was sov's baby. | 14:22 |
arrrghhh | yea it is sov's baby | 14:22 |
arrrghhh | but reef packages & distributes it for him basically. | 14:22 |
arrrghhh | lol blazn is neglected. | 14:22 |
arrrghhh | i keep missing him online, i'm trying to pickup where he left off on blazn. | 14:22 |
XirXes | reef said yesterday in here hes gunna update blazin soon | 14:23 |
JesusFreak316 | An arrrghhh build? Scary. | 14:23 |
arrrghhh | lol | 14:23 |
F22 | lol | 14:23 |
arrrghhh | did he? nice. | 14:23 |
arrrghhh | yea i'm not going to take blazn away from sir reef | 14:23 |
arrrghhh | i just wanted to give him a hand packaging it | 14:23 |
arrrghhh | so when aosp updates we can update blazn too D: | 14:23 |
arrrghhh | er :D | 14:24 |
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stinebd | http://www.joystiq.com/2010/11/12/angry-birds-confirmed-as-coming-to-xbla-psn-wiiware-before-a-s/ | 14:29 |
XirXes | stinebd, thats what you chose to make your return with huh? | 14:29 |
stinebd | i haven't returned | 14:29 |
F22 | lol | 14:29 |
arrrghhh | omg stine, i'm sooooooo excited... | 14:30 |
arrrghhh | rme | 14:30 |
TheDeadCPU | lol | 14:33 |
F22 | stinebd: i'd like to send you a small patch for xdandroid-eclair's froyo branch at some point. do i send to developers@xdandroid.com as per the instructions on the web site? or is there a better method? | 14:35 |
CypherIce | creating the andboot folder is optional when i have the froyo 2.2 installed to the root of the sd card, right? i may just replace the system.ext2 in the root directory? | 14:37 |
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hamagc | so you got metro working? | 14:39 |
Djcloud | yeah | 14:39 |
Djcloud | works good | 14:39 |
arrrghhh | ugh. | 14:39 |
Djcloud | but now im having problems with the xdandroid | 14:39 |
hamagc | you should post the instructions for others that want to get it to work | 14:39 |
Djcloud | it keeps shutting off my phone service | 14:40 |
hamagc | maybe arrrghhh can put it on a wiki ;) | 14:40 |
Djcloud | i could if you want | 14:40 |
hamagc | keeps shutting off phone svc? | 14:40 |
Djcloud | yes | 14:40 |
hamagc | like the radio keeps crashing? | 14:40 |
Djcloud | like it goes directly to airplane mode | 14:40 |
arrrghhh | force cdma | 14:40 |
JesusFreak316 | Cypherice: Yes, andboot just keeps it organized. | 14:40 |
Djcloud | how do i do that arrrgh | 14:40 |
hamagc | do you have force_cdma=1 in your startup.txt? | 14:40 |
Djcloud | let me check | 14:41 |
arrrghhh | you freakin READ | 14:41 |
Djcloud | yes | 14:41 |
arrrghhh | damnit. | 14:41 |
F22 | lol | 14:41 |
Djcloud | its there | 14:41 |
arrrghhh | is it there more than once? | 14:41 |
arrrghhh | or in some other incarnation? | 14:41 |
Djcloud | ofc i read, i see what ur saying haha | 14:41 |
Djcloud | yes | 14:42 |
Djcloud | i see it twice | 14:42 |
Djcloud | set cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmts_calib=0x9f.0x39a.0x35c.0x78 msmvkeyb_toggle=off pmem.extra=1 gsensor_axis=2,1,3 force_cdma=1 physkeyboard=rhod400" | 14:42 |
arrrghhh | you see it twice? | 14:42 |
Djcloud | force_cdma=1 | 14:42 |
Djcloud | yes | 14:42 |
arrrghhh | i see it once. | 14:42 |
hamagc | lol | 14:42 |
Djcloud | it says all that | 14:42 |
arrrghhh | do you have a SIM? | 14:42 |
Djcloud | then on another line it says | 14:43 |
Djcloud | force_cdma=1 | 14:43 |
arrrghhh | wtf | 14:43 |
Djcloud | yes i do | 14:43 |
hamagc | wtf? | 14:43 |
stinebd | F22: via email is fine | 14:43 |
arrrghhh | why would you have that | 14:43 |
arrrghhh | can't use the sim. | 14:43 |
hamagc | 2 cmdlines? | 14:43 |
arrrghhh | hamagc: he probably just put it in himself. | 14:43 |
arrrghhh | outside of the cmdline. | 14:43 |
hamagc | ahh | 14:43 |
arrrghhh | i've seen that soooo many times. | 14:43 |
Djcloud | this phone has a sim in it, a sprint sim, but on metropcs | 14:43 |
arrrghhh | uhm. | 14:43 |
arrrghhh | sprint doesn't use SIMs. | 14:43 |
Djcloud | should i take it off? | 14:43 |
arrrghhh | unless for roaming etc | 14:43 |
hamagc | sprint has no sims | 14:43 |
Djcloud | then it must be a blank sim card | 14:43 |
arrrghhh | CDMA don't use SIM | 14:43 |
arrrghhh | pull the card | 14:43 |
hamagc | your have tp2. they are world phones so they can accept a sim but sprint nor metro uses sims | 14:44 |
arrrghhh | especially if you're not using it. | 14:44 |
Djcloud | ok pull it? | 14:44 |
hamagc | pull it | 14:44 |
Djcloud | k | 14:44 |
arrrghhh | lol no don't pull it. | 14:44 |
Djcloud | should i delete the double force_cdma=1 | 14:44 |
arrrghhh | jeebus. | 14:44 |
Djcloud | haha | 14:44 |
arrrghhh | delete the second one | 14:44 |
Djcloud | k | 14:44 |
arrrghhh | leave the one in the quotes. | 14:44 |
arrrghhh | you really need to learn how to use that search button. | 14:44 |
Djcloud | i have | 14:44 |
F22 | stinebd: sounds good, thanks. | 14:45 |
arrrghhh | ok learn how to use that read button? | 14:45 |
Djcloud | i have internet working on my phone dont i? | 14:45 |
arrrghhh | i don't know. | 14:45 |
Djcloud | ... | 14:45 |
Djcloud | i do | 14:45 |
arrrghhh | would you like a cookie? | 14:45 |
Djcloud | depends, flavor? | 14:45 |
arrrghhh | bacon | 14:45 |
Djcloud | sure | 14:45 |
hamagc | mmm | 14:45 |
arrrghhh | oh the cat ate it. | 14:45 |
stinebd | F22: if you prefer, you can open a bug and attach it there | 14:45 |
hamagc | a good write up in getting data to work on metropcs would be good. | 14:46 |
stinebd | pretty much accomplishes the same task | 14:46 |
arrrghhh | so the 5 people that use metro will be covered lol | 14:46 |
hamagc | mhmm | 14:46 |
Djcloud | Haha | 14:46 |
hamagc | theres 5 now? | 14:46 |
F22 | stinebd: it's not really a bug. it's an expansion of the symbol palette. | 14:46 |
hamagc | oh including Djcloud | 14:46 |
Djcloud | haha | 14:46 |
stinebd | F22: enhancements are bugs too :P | 14:46 |
Djcloud | well, i could use it to hussle in my area | 14:46 |
Djcloud | charge 20 bucks to people haha | 14:46 |
F22 | lol, ok | 14:46 |
Djcloud | u guys free | 14:46 |
arrrghhh | fuck you. | 14:47 |
hamagc | i don't think he liked that one lol | 14:47 |
Djcloud | arrrghhh, special price, 50 | 14:47 |
arrrghhh | i hate you. | 14:47 |
Djcloud | ok | 14:47 |
Djcloud | look | 14:47 |
arrrghhh | no you look | 14:47 |
arrrghhh | don't you DARE charge people for information when you get it for free. | 14:47 |
Djcloud | i pulled card, getting message, there is no sim card on your device, your device will now switch to force cdma mode | 14:48 |
arrrghhh | especially when developers are working hard to get everything functional, when tools like you profit from it personally. | 14:48 |
arrrghhh | i don't even know if we should help you anymore. | 14:48 |
Djcloud | bro | 14:48 |
Djcloud | chill | 14:48 |
arrrghhh | i'm nobody's bro | 14:48 |
Djcloud | was a joke | 14:48 |
hamagc | ya that pisses me off. i see people selling xdandroid setups on ebay and craigslist | 14:48 |
arrrghhh | Djcloud: no body is laughin. | 14:48 |
hamagc | they have nothing to do with the development but they sell it. we develop it for free and they profit. wtf? | 14:49 |
arrrghhh | hamagc: +1. dude got banned the other day because he was so proud of it. | 14:49 |
Djcloud | u guys can relax, it was a joke, even if u lol'ed in rl or not, i did and thats what matters lol | 14:49 |
arrrghhh | yea. pretty messed up, but morals in this world don't go very far. | 14:49 |
arrrghhh | wow... so the world rotates around Djcloud. | 14:49 |
Djcloud | ofc | 14:49 |
arrrghhh | no wonder he can't search. far too important for that. | 14:49 |
hamagc | lol | 14:50 |
Djcloud | haha | 14:50 |
Djcloud | anyways | 14:50 |
Djcloud | ill make a walk through tonight | 14:50 |
Djcloud | and post it | 14:50 |
Djcloud | im suprised how fast the net is on it | 14:51 |
F22 | stinebd: while working on overhauling the rhod's various keymaps, i took a look at the G1's keymap and discovered the symbol palette and mapped it to my SYM key. Those keymaps will go in rootfs of course, but I figured I'd expand the palette to have all of the missing keys as well while i was at it. I can add it to the raph too while i'm at it. | 14:51 |
arrrghhh | you da man | 14:52 |
Djcloud | would it be better to install the haret to the phone or sd card? | 14:52 |
CypherIce | sd card | 14:52 |
arrrghhh | uh | 14:52 |
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arrrghhh | has to go on SD | 14:52 |
JesusFreak316 | :) | 14:52 |
JesusFreak316 | Sd card | 14:52 |
hamagc | well if you intall it to the phone you have to move over all the files with it | 14:52 |
hamagc | if you autorun it you can't get back in winmo | 14:53 |
Djcloud | i was just wondering if it would run faster on the phone, and using the sd card as phone memory | 14:53 |
CypherIce | installing froyo 2.2 cab :D | 14:53 |
arrrghhh | lmao | 14:53 |
JesusFreak316 | Would it even work off of winmo? | 14:53 |
arrrghhh | Djcloud: you're a funny guy. | 14:53 |
arrrghhh | JesusFreak316: couldn't mount it. unless it's a DIAM. | 14:53 |
CypherIce | LoLoL | 14:53 |
Djcloud | thanks arrrghhh | 14:53 |
arrrghhh | in which case 'internal storage' is just an SD card soldered to the board. | 14:53 |
JesusFreak316 | Why would it work for DIAM? | 14:53 |
JesusFreak316 | It's still just a permanent sd. | 14:54 |
arrrghhh | JesusFreak316: technical details. | 14:54 |
arrrghhh | yes. | 14:54 |
arrrghhh | sorry, i didn't mean the DIAM was exempt :P | 14:54 |
Djcloud | so is froyos the best rom right now? | 14:54 |
arrrghhh | ... | 14:54 |
JesusFreak316 | Yes. | 14:54 |
CypherIce | is not a rom | 14:54 |
Djcloud | or platform | 14:54 |
Djcloud | i mean | 14:54 |
arrrghhh | i really wish i could slap people with just an ip address. | 14:55 |
Djcloud | haha | 14:55 |
JesusFreak316 | It's not a rom persay but it's close enough. | 14:55 |
arrrghhh | tcp SLAP | 14:55 |
Djcloud | right | 14:55 |
arrrghhh | blazn is my fave. | 14:55 |
arrrghhh | but it's a little outdated ATM | 14:55 |
Djcloud | well sorry if i dont know all the technical words for things, i only been doing this for like 24 hrs lol | 14:55 |
JesusFreak316 | I really want to try blazn, but it's so OLD. | 14:55 |
arrrghhh | Djcloud: which is why you need to SEARCH and READ | 14:55 |
Djcloud | blazn looks good | 14:55 |
arrrghhh | before asking a question that's been asked 10,000x before. | 14:56 |
Djcloud | and i have been bro | 14:56 |
arrrghhh | it really shows too... | 14:56 |
Djcloud | and im tired of finding useless forums with useless answer of like pleas ehelp i followed ur guide and nothing works blah blah. when come to find out people just didnt follow walkthroughs | 14:57 |
arrrghhh | yea | 14:57 |
arrrghhh | reminds me of someone... | 14:57 |
arrrghhh | oh crap, you're right there. | 14:57 |
Djcloud | haha | 14:57 |
JesusFreak316 | You're such a dick arrrghhh. | 14:57 |
Djcloud | now whos trolling? | 14:57 |
arrrghhh | lmao i know. | 14:57 |
arrrghhh | no trolling. | 14:57 |
arrrghhh | just bein honest. | 14:57 |
Djcloud | yep | 14:57 |
Djcloud | u must play wow | 14:57 |
arrrghhh | nope. | 14:58 |
arrrghhh | never... not much of an RPG guy myself. | 14:58 |
JesusFreak316 | wow, lollerskates. | 14:58 |
Djcloud | ok | 14:58 |
Djcloud | thanks ham, and arrrgh airplane mode off and services workin on droid | 14:58 |
arrrghhh | which all of our helpful information is in the FAQ | 14:59 |
Djcloud | i read the faq | 14:59 |
arrrghhh | well the SIM card and force cdma stuff is in there. | 14:59 |
hamagc | so it's working now? | 14:59 |
Unholy | android.. | 14:59 |
Djcloud | didnt say nothing about having force_cdma=1 twice | 14:59 |
Djcloud | yes ham | 14:59 |
hamagc | i believe you owe someone a writeup | 14:59 |
TheDeadCPU | arrrghhh, HELLO | 14:59 |
arrrghhh | well | 14:59 |
Djcloud | i will have it completed tonight for u ham | 14:59 |
arrrghhh | we can't assume everyone has it in there 2x. the SIM card was the fix, not the double force cdma. | 14:59 |
arrrghhh | it's just pointless to have in there. | 15:00 |
arrrghhh | oy | 15:00 |
arrrghhh | what's up TheDeadCPU | 15:00 |
CypherIce | installed froyo 2.2, FRX02, 20101111_213418 kernel... almost booting it for the first time lolol | 15:00 |
TheDeadCPU | arrrghhh, ah nothing, correcting Pocketnow articles. | 15:01 |
arrrghhh | sounds like fun. | 15:01 |
TheDeadCPU | you? arrrghhh | 15:01 |
hamagc | Djcloud: once you have it, you should make a thread on xda (or use an exisiting one if there is one) and post it there for everyone. thats usually the first place people look | 15:01 |
arrrghhh | i'm at work... not sure what i should be working on ATM. | 15:01 |
TheDeadCPU | lol | 15:01 |
Djcloud | ok ham | 15:01 |
hamagc | lunch time!! | 15:01 |
arrrghhh | trying to pull some interface status report that's taking hours for some reason. probably need to pack-up the rest of my crap too. | 15:02 |
TheDeadCPU | YAY | 15:02 |
hamagc | so arrrghhh flashed a custom rom on the moment | 15:02 |
hamagc | all this for apps2sd | 15:02 |
hamagc | what a pita! | 15:02 |
Djcloud | hmm | 15:02 |
Djcloud | android isnt letting me call or use my internet | 15:02 |
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arrrghhh | lol | 15:03 |
arrrghhh | Djcloud: doesn't work yet. | 15:03 |
Djcloud | so you have to use like wifi? and winmo for ur text and calls? | 15:03 |
arrrghhh | yea, you didn't get the memo? | 15:04 |
Djcloud | nah | 15:04 |
hamagc | everything should work on that side of things. this means your not quite setup yet | 15:04 |
Djcloud | so i did something wrong? | 15:04 |
hamagc | well when you have it all setup, data and calls should work | 15:05 |
hamagc | via metro | 15:05 |
arrrghhh | lol | 15:05 |
arrrghhh | you're no fun hamagc | 15:05 |
hamagc | lol | 15:05 |
Djcloud | well everything works on the winmo side | 15:05 |
arrrghhh | WinMo works eh? | 15:05 |
arrrghhh | that's interesting... pretty sure the phone was designed to run that OS. | 15:05 |
XirXes | lol | 15:05 |
Djcloud | wasnt talking about the os | 15:05 |
Djcloud | was talking about the celluar services | 15:06 |
arrrghhh | well you're talking about things within the os | 15:06 |
Djcloud | right | 15:06 |
arrrghhh | which are provided thru a layer of software. | 15:06 |
hamagc | you guys almost confuse me sometimes lol | 15:06 |
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Djcloud | hey arrrghhh is ur glass half full or half empty? | 15:06 |
hamagc | everything works on winmo as it should | 15:06 |
arrrghhh | it's full. | 15:06 |
arrrghhh | all the time. | 15:06 |
hamagc | winmo is a set os thats native | 15:06 |
arrrghhh | half-nothing | 15:06 |
hamagc | android is a port | 15:06 |
hamagc | which means if it doesn't work, someone has to find out how to make it work | 15:07 |
arrrghhh | oh hammy. | 15:07 |
Djcloud | lol | 15:07 |
hamagc | regarding metro, thats where you come in Djcloud. none of the devs have metro so they can't figure it out | 15:07 |
Djcloud | ah | 15:07 |
hamagc | so your pretty much on your own for this | 15:07 |
hamagc | we can help you as far as we can but beyond that, your all alone | 15:07 |
Djcloud | for getting the services to work on the android side with metro? | 15:07 |
arrrghhh | well if you did some leg work on your own, you'd get more help. | 15:08 |
Djcloud | lol u remind me of my son haha | 15:08 |
arrrghhh | i may be a dick, but i'm an extra-special dick to those who don't want to help themselves. | 15:08 |
hamagc | the forums are really going to have all the info on getting metro setup. if it's not there, then odds are no one has figured it out | 15:08 |
arrrghhh | son!??! | 15:08 |
Unholy | when you say metro, do you mean the winp7 ui? | 15:08 |
arrrghhh | you procreated!? oh shit. | 15:08 |
hamagc | Unholy: no - metropcs - mvno carrier | 15:08 |
arrrghhh | metropcs | 15:08 |
Unholy | hmm | 15:09 |
arrrghhh | some crappy cricket-like carrier | 15:09 |
Djcloud | haha | 15:09 |
Unholy | ah ok | 15:09 |
Djcloud | hey | 15:09 |
hamagc | ya, they are a low brand carrier running off of everyone else. the last year or 2 they blew up locally out here | 15:09 |
Djcloud | my crappy carrier has 4g atleast | 15:09 |
hamagc | like 15 stores all of a sudden | 15:09 |
Djcloud | =P | 15:09 |
hamagc | Djcloud: not everywhere, only where sprint has 4g | 15:09 |
TheDeadCPU | AND IIIIIIIIIIII WILL AAAAAAAAALWAYS LOOOOOVE YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU | 15:09 |
hamagc | they run on the sprint network | 15:09 |
hamagc | ok i need to eat | 15:10 |
hamagc | i'll be back | 15:10 |
hamagc | .away | 15:10 |
Djcloud | actually ham, they have 4g right now here in detroit, but sprint wont have it out here till late december | 15:10 |
hamagc | can't have one without the other. metro does'nt have their own towers | 15:10 |
Djcloud | maybe sprint just waiting to release it then | 15:10 |
hamagc | could be | 15:11 |
F22 | MetroPCS leases space from Sprint. | 15:11 |
hamagc | be back | 15:11 |
F22 | They have their own equipment apparently | 15:11 |
Djcloud | right | 15:11 |
arrrghhh | yea they do have their own crap for LTE | 15:11 |
arrrghhh | cuz their 4g stuff is LTE evidently. | 15:11 |
Djcloud | like there 4g phone is the samsung craft | 15:11 |
F22 | so they colocate with Sprint, yup. | 15:12 |
arrrghhh | indeed | 15:12 |
arrrghhh | they used to be 100% sprint tho. | 15:12 |
arrrghhh | seems they've only recently rolled their own network with LTE. | 15:12 |
F22 | nice of sprint to rent them the space. | 15:12 |
Djcloud | prolly cause they are making decent money | 15:12 |
arrrghhh | lol anybody who'll pay | 15:13 |
F22 | lol, yup. | 15:13 |
Djcloud | well paying 50 a month for unlimted everything is definitely cheaper then 80-100 that some carriers offer | 15:14 |
arrrghhh | let's not talk about plans. | 15:14 |
Djcloud | so who wouldnt change that need to save a buck | 15:14 |
arrrghhh | cuz i don't want to pipe all my network traffic thru a proxy? | 15:14 |
F22 | i think metro is like #5 or #6 in the US size-wise. Not one of the big 4, but at the top of the pile of the rest. | 15:14 |
arrrghhh | #5 according to wiki. 7.6 million subscribers. | 15:15 |
Djcloud | well they are good in my book, as long as i get the services i ask for | 15:15 |
F22 | i can't imagine going back to a world without google and wiki... :P | 15:15 |
arrrghhh | seriously... | 15:16 |
arrrghhh | amazing tools. | 15:16 |
Djcloud | right f22 | 15:16 |
Djcloud | alright i gotta log but ill be on later | 15:16 |
Djcloud | later arrrghhh | 15:17 |
arrrghhh | we'll miss your insightful questions. | 15:17 |
Djcloud | xD | 15:17 |
Djcloud | it warms my heart to see the love pour from your heart! | 15:17 |
Djcloud | haha | 15:17 |
Djcloud | later guys | 15:17 |
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arrrghhh | i can't believe that guy procreated. we're all screwed, harvey danger was right - only stupid people are breeding. | 15:18 |
F22 | lol | 15:19 |
F22 | BTW, T-mobile's new commercials advertising their shrunken version of the Desire HD have gotten rather feisty of late. (Pity they didn't keep it the way it was.) I'm kind of used to Verizon abusing AT&T, but now T-Mo is getting into it too... :P | 15:20 |
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TheDeadCPU | My weakness is shiny things. | 15:21 |
arrrghhh | lmao | 15:22 |
arrrghhh | all norwegians have this problem. | 15:22 |
F22 | lol | 15:22 |
arrrghhh | omg i have too much pizza. how is this possible. | 15:24 |
F22 | no such thing | 15:24 |
F22 | it's impossible to have too much pizza | 15:24 |
F22 | :P | 15:24 |
arrrghhh | the company ordered like 11 large pizzas | 15:24 |
arrrghhh | and there's still like 4 left lol | 15:24 |
arrrghhh | like totally. | 15:24 |
F22 | email me one! :P | 15:25 |
arrrghhh | hahaha | 15:25 |
arrrghhh | crap, i think our document scanner is now jammed with cheese. | 15:25 |
F22 | rofl | 15:25 |
TheDeadCPU | lol | 15:29 |
TheDeadCPU | arrrghhh, and you wanted me to order you pizza the other day | 15:29 |
arrrghhh | yes. i was poor & dying. | 15:29 |
F22 | he can take them home now and live off them for the next few days... ;) | 15:30 |
arrrghhh | lol | 15:30 |
arrrghhh | yea i'm still poor. just not dying. | 15:30 |
F22 | i can just see him sneaking 4 pizza's home. | 15:30 |
arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 15:33 |
arrrghhh | F22: is that you over in accounting? | 15:33 |
arrrghhh | i would lmao if i ran into someone on IRC that worked at the same company i do. | 15:34 |
TheDeadCPU | arrrghhh, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMWi7CLoZ2Q&feature=related | 15:35 |
F22 | *waggles his eyebrows* | 15:36 |
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arrrghhh | damnit | 15:37 |
arrrghhh | no nom nom at work. | 15:38 |
TheDeadCPU | aww | 15:40 |
arrrghhh | lol | 15:40 |
hamagc | damn my nom nom wasn't really all that good | 15:41 |
hamagc | was much better as a meal rather than leftovers | 15:41 |
hamagc | blah | 15:41 |
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TheDeadCPU | lol | 15:46 |
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TheDeadCPU | OMG | 15:57 |
TheDeadCPU | CUTEST THING EVAR | 15:57 |
TheDeadCPU | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK_CKtYCRIc | 15:57 |
arrrghhh | lol the music was good. | 15:58 |
TheDeadCPU | lol | 16:00 |
TheDeadCPU | did you get to see it? I though you were at work | 16:00 |
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arrrghhh | i am. | 16:18 |
JesusFreak316 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_vNhLYW_e4 | 16:18 |
JesusFreak316 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boh92DrYEWs | 16:18 |
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CypherIce | my fresh installed xdandroid with all the latest updates is allways going to "sleep" mode | 16:23 |
arrrghhh | it does that after a period of inactivity | 16:24 |
arrrghhh | it's real short if you are on the unlock screen too. | 16:24 |
CypherIce | i think so... | 16:25 |
CypherIce | very short indeed | 16:25 |
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arrrghhh | well if you're using the phone it shouldn't go to sleep lol | 16:25 |
CypherIce | but it's really nice and quite fast | 16:26 |
arrrghhh | good. | 16:27 |
CypherIce | can i use my gmail account as a google account? | 16:31 |
arrrghhh | uhm... yes. | 16:33 |
arrrghhh | gmail accounts are google accounts. | 16:34 |
CypherIce | lol dummest question ever lol | 16:35 |
hamagc | lol | 16:35 |
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CypherIce | how do u close aplication? i just click the blackstone button "back" | 16:36 |
JesusFreak316 | It's not like winmo; you don't need to close apps. | 16:37 |
JesusFreak316 | However, if one glitches and you need to kill it download a task manager. I personally like itching thumg. | 16:38 |
JesusFreak316 | *thumb | 16:38 |
CypherIce | where can i find those cool apps for the xdandroid? | 16:39 |
JesusFreak316 | Market. | 16:39 |
JesusFreak316 | Should always be your first place. | 16:39 |
arrrghhh | yea we mostly have full market access. | 16:39 |
JesusFreak316 | Or do you mean discovering cool apps? I found out about itching thumb on xda. | 16:40 |
JesusFreak316 | You ever try out itching thumb arrrghhh? | 16:40 |
CypherIce | to go there i need to have internet access... is the active sync working to use my PC internet? | 16:40 |
arrrghhh | never tried it. | 16:40 |
arrrghhh | never heard of it either :P | 16:40 |
arrrghhh | you've talked about it before. | 16:41 |
arrrghhh | CypherIce: do what? | 16:41 |
arrrghhh | wifi or 3g | 16:41 |
arrrghhh | cell radio data | 16:41 |
JesusFreak316 | Haven't tried it but this sounds useful. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=he4dGCfE67c | 16:41 |
JesusFreak316 | Never heard of it but I've talked about it before? | 16:41 |
arrrghhh | well | 16:41 |
arrrghhh | other than you. | 16:41 |
arrrghhh | i don't know if you count tho :P | 16:42 |
JesusFreak316 | Ah, it was on the xda newsfeed a while back. I love it, especially on the hd2. | 16:42 |
arrrghhh | meh | 16:42 |
XirXes | if you don't want to install a task manager when something needs to be killed you can just go into settings/applications and kill it there | 16:42 |
arrrghhh | i don't really need a task manager in android | 16:42 |
arrrghhh | haven't needed one at least. | 16:42 |
JesusFreak316 | Yeah, but itching thumb is an awesome task switcher too. | 16:43 |
arrrghhh | apps that misbehave seem to get that force close button anyways :P | 16:43 |
* JesusFreak316 hugs itching thumb. | 16:43 | |
arrrghhh | lol seriously | 16:43 |
arrrghhh | you really do love it eh | 16:43 |
arrrghhh | i guess i should give it a shot. | 16:43 |
arrrghhh | i just use that recent apps list to switch tasks. | 16:43 |
arrrghhh | or just go click the app lol. | 16:43 |
arrrghhh | everything is so much easier in android, i'm used to jumping thru hoops for winmo. | 16:44 |
CypherIce | arrrghhh in WinMo i just insert my usb cable in the blackstone and connect with activesync, and i use the internet in the pda from the laptop | 16:44 |
arrrghhh | CypherIce: stick to winmo if you need that functionality. | 16:45 |
arrrghhh | remember, this is just for fun/testing. it's NOT meant to replace winmo., | 16:45 |
JesusFreak316 | Like I linked earlier, google "use laptop as wifi router" | 16:45 |
CypherIce | JesusFreak316 and i can get in the PDA internet with the wi-fi functionality? | 16:46 |
JesusFreak316 | You should be able to. | 16:46 |
CypherIce | arrrghhh i just need it to go to the market place lol | 16:46 |
arrrghhh | wifi | 16:46 |
arrrghhh | 3g | 16:46 |
CypherIce | 3g = no money in the operator card | 16:46 |
arrrghhh | wifi | 16:46 |
CypherIce | wifi = not available at the moment LoLoL | 16:46 |
arrrghhh | deal with it? | 16:47 |
arrrghhh | jeez man. | 16:47 |
arrrghhh | JesusFreak316: i'm assuming that just sets up an ad-hoc network? | 16:48 |
JesusFreak316 | Sure. Like I said, never tried it. | 16:49 |
JesusFreak316 | Just googled it. | 16:49 |
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arrrghhh | oh | 16:50 |
arrrghhh | that's just ICS. LOL | 16:50 |
JesusFreak316 | Guess so. Is that a problem/ | 16:51 |
JesusFreak316 | ? | 16:51 |
CypherIce | i'm delighted with this... :D:D | 16:51 |
arrrghhh | no. | 16:53 |
arrrghhh | just funny. | 16:53 |
arrrghhh | HILARIOUS in fact. | 16:53 |
JesusFreak316 | Ok | 16:53 |
hamagc | lol droid explorer finally made it on the news page of xda | 16:54 |
JesusFreak316 | I saw that. | 16:54 |
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CypherIce | turning laptop into a wifi spot easy as hell lolol | 16:58 |
arrrghhh | yea | 16:59 |
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hamagc | woops | 17:00 |
TheDeadCPU | wat | 17:06 |
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arrrghhh | lol | 17:33 |
arrrghhh | packin up guys | 17:33 |
arrrghhh | cya later | 17:33 |
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xdandroid | New XDAndroid Releases bug 57 filed... | 17:54 |
xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=57 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, wifi tethering does not work | 17:54 |
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hamagc | wifi tethering doesn't work?!? | 17:59 |
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cypherice | can't turn wifi on... is always showing "error" | 18:15 |
JesusFreak316 | :/ Some people have been reporting that bug lately. | 18:16 |
JesusFreak316 | I got it once. | 18:16 |
cypherice | finally i got the connectify running and transforming my normal laptop into a wifi hotspot and i have that bug now lolol | 18:16 |
JesusFreak316 | Just try restarting Android. | 18:17 |
cypherice | now it worked but it can find any network and it shuts down | 18:19 |
JesusFreak316 | Huh. | 18:19 |
JesusFreak316 | Can you connect in Winmo? Sorry to make you restart again? | 18:19 |
cypherice | i'm restarting android, let's see now | 18:19 |
cypherice | going to try it now in winmo | 18:20 |
cypherice | i don't have any dualboot app, i just use haret | 18:20 |
JesusFreak316 | Everything's at the root of your sd right? | 18:21 |
cypherice | yup | 18:21 |
JesusFreak316 | Try GenY dualboot then. | 18:22 |
cypherice | in WinMo it's working the Connectify (windows 7 application to use laptop as a HotSpot) | 18:23 |
cypherice | i'm getting the wifi signal and connected to internet | 18:24 |
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JesusFreak316 | Ok, then try android again. | 18:25 |
cypherice | ok.. just one thing... i install that Geny in the Winmo right? | 18:26 |
JesusFreak316 | Yes. | 18:27 |
JesusFreak316 | .cab is for winmo .apk is for android. | 18:27 |
cypherice | nice, i will install that now | 18:29 |
cypherice | but i thought the PDA needed to boot first the WINMO so that all the hardware works fine and just then launch android | 18:30 |
JesusFreak316 | It does. | 18:30 |
JesusFreak316 | It starts the app early in the winmo boot process and asks you which one. If you choose winmo it continues booting but if you choose android it starts haret right there. | 18:30 |
cypherice | hmm nice | 18:31 |
cypherice | blackstone is WVGA? lolol i'm getting stupid every hour | 18:33 |
JesusFreak316 | Yeah. VGA is 640x480 WVGA is 800x480 | 18:34 |
cypherice | and WQVGA is what? | 18:34 |
XirXes | 400x240 i believe | 18:36 |
JesusFreak316 | Sounds right. Should be 1/4 of WVGA | 18:37 |
cypherice | well lets try that geny dualboot | 18:38 |
cypherice | hmm its working... not that bad :) | 18:40 |
JesusFreak316 | What's working? Wifi or dualboot? Hopefully both. :) | 18:40 |
cypherice | dualboot lol it's still booting android | 18:40 |
cypherice | i didn't needed to change anything in the registry... | 18:41 |
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cypherice | yeahhhh wifi working :D | 18:42 |
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cypherice | JesusFreak316 thks a lot :D | 18:43 |
cypherice | let's try that market... | 18:43 |
JesusFreak316 | Yeah, you only have to edit the registry if your android files are in a folder on your sdcard. | 18:43 |
cypherice | :) | 18:44 |
cypherice | can't connect a google account... but the wifi is connected... | 18:48 |
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xdandroid | stinebd changed the Status on bug 57 from NEW to RESOLVED LATER. | 18:51 |
xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=57 normal, Normal, ---, developers, RESOLVED LATER, wifi tethering does not work | 18:51 |
cypherice | disconnected the wifi, then try to connect... "error" again LoLoL | 18:52 |
JesusFreak316 | Fail. | 18:53 |
JesusFreak316 | I've heard that is when it happens. Don't disconnect. ;) | 18:53 |
cypherice | don't know how i got it working in the first time LoL | 18:53 |
arrrghhh | my face freakin hurts | 18:54 |
cypherice | is there another way to go to the market besides using the android OS? | 18:54 |
arrrghhh | there's some website i think | 18:55 |
arrrghhh | lol | 18:55 |
arrrghhh | that's helpful. | 18:55 |
JesusFreak316 | You still need wifi to get it on the device though. | 18:55 |
arrrghhh | well | 18:55 |
arrrghhh | you can use adb to install apks :P | 18:55 |
arrrghhh | or copy the apk to your sd | 18:55 |
JesusFreak316 | apks aren't all that easy to find for many apps. | 18:56 |
JesusFreak316 | This freewarelovers.com site seems to have made it easier though. | 18:56 |
arrrghhh | i thought there was some website | 18:56 |
arrrghhh | damnit | 18:56 |
JesusFreak316 | I see a lot of apks there. | 18:56 |
stinebd | hah | 18:57 |
stinebd | those sites are why we now need antivirus apps for our phones :P | 18:57 |
arrrghhh | hahaha | 18:57 |
arrrghhh | i really thought there was a specific android market site. | 18:57 |
cypherice | the oficial android market website does not let u download lol | 18:57 |
JesusFreak316 | True. No different thatn Winmo really though; Android is vastly more mainstream though. | 18:58 |
arrrghhh | i always just access the market on the phone | 18:58 |
cypherice | http://www.android.com/market/ | 18:58 |
arrrghhh | seemed the easiest to me :P | 18:58 |
cypherice | and it is easy... | 18:58 |
JesusFreak316 | You can't download from there cypherice, and they don't have anywhere near all the apps. | 18:58 |
cypherice | just need to power up the wifi lol | 18:58 |
cypherice | "obtaining ip address from Connectify" ... and then it says "error" | 18:59 |
JesusFreak316 | stinebd: Do you know anything about the wifi errors? I saw them in the main thread a while back before that troll took over. | 18:59 |
stinebd | i haven't been on the forums in ages | 19:00 |
stinebd | haven't been in here either | 19:00 |
stinebd | so no. | 19:00 |
arrrghhh | cypherice, are you using wep? | 19:00 |
cypherice | wep? whats that? | 19:00 |
arrrghhh | uhhhh | 19:00 |
arrrghhh | encryption? | 19:00 |
arrrghhh | wifi? | 19:00 |
cypherice | yup | 19:00 |
cypherice | password | 19:00 |
arrrghhh | don't work. | 19:00 |
JesusFreak316 | Wait, the wifi starts but just won't connect or won't start at all? | 19:00 |
arrrghhh | WEP is NOT compatible. | 19:01 |
arrrghhh | evidently only on the RHOD. | 19:01 |
arrrghhh | lol | 19:01 |
arrrghhh | i heard it works on the raph. which seems weird to me. | 19:01 |
JesusFreak316 | Works for me on my Fuze. | 19:01 |
arrrghhh | weird. | 19:01 |
arrrghhh | wep sucks. | 19:01 |
JesusFreak316 | So yeah RAPH works. | 19:01 |
arrrghhh | may as well just run open. | 19:01 |
cypherice | JesusFreak316 wont start at all | 19:01 |
JesusFreak316 | Doesn't RHOD have a different wifi chip or just bluetooth. | 19:01 |
arrrghhh | any yokel that can inject packets can crack it | 19:01 |
arrrghhh | so NO BODY should use wep. | 19:02 |
arrrghhh | it's not secure. | 19:02 |
JesusFreak316 | But you said it says obtaining ip address from connectify. | 19:02 |
stinebd | i don't think cletus will step away from his shotgun long enough to haxx your wifi | 19:02 |
cypherice | yes, and then it says "error" so for me that doesn´t work at all lol | 19:02 |
JesusFreak316 | arrrghhh: True, but it still keeps out 90% of wifi leechers who are too lazy to crack wep. | 19:02 |
arrrghhh | meh | 19:03 |
JesusFreak316 | Actually cypherice, that means wifi is initializing but just not connecting. Sometimes you turn on wifi then it immediately turns off again. | 19:03 |
JesusFreak316 | In your case, change WEP to WPA as it is more secure and should connect. | 19:03 |
arrrghhh | they need to disable wep | 19:04 |
JesusFreak316 | Does Connectify have a WPA or WPA2 option? | 19:04 |
arrrghhh | there's no point in using it, every device nowadays supports wpa/wpa2 | 19:04 |
cypherice | connectify doesn't let me create a hotspot without password | 19:04 |
JesusFreak316 | I personally use wep because my ds doesn't support anything else. | 19:04 |
arrrghhh | wtf the ds doesn't? | 19:04 |
arrrghhh | that sucks. | 19:04 |
arrrghhh | use mac filtering then lol | 19:04 |
JesusFreak316 | Then again, I never go online on it anymore. | 19:04 |
arrrghhh | i actually run an open network | 19:05 |
arrrghhh | but it's an isoloated vlan | 19:05 |
arrrghhh | can't hit anything on my lan | 19:05 |
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JesusFreak316 | I've been cosidering that but I live in a pretty secluded section of my neighborhood and have never had any issues. | 19:05 |
cypherice | connectify mode: access point WPA2-PSK | 19:05 |
stinebd | these pretzels are making me thirsty | 19:06 |
arrrghhh | lol | 19:06 |
JesusFreak316 | Did you see that episode last night too? | 19:06 |
arrrghhh | words of wisdom from stinebd | 19:06 |
stinebd | episode? | 19:06 |
cypherice | scanning for networks... unable to scan for networks | 19:06 |
JesusFreak316 | It's from Seinfeld. | 19:06 |
cypherice | lolol | 19:06 |
stinebd | i don't watch seinfeld | 19:06 |
stinebd | plus it's been canceled for like 20 years | 19:07 |
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JesusFreak316 | http://www.google.com/search?aq=0&oq=these+pretzel&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=these+pretzels+are+making+me+thirsty | 19:07 |
stinebd | so wait | 19:07 |
JesusFreak316 | Reruns of that are better than 99% of shows today. | 19:07 |
stinebd | i can't even eat pretzels without infringing on a copyright anymore? | 19:07 |
JesusFreak316 | Nah, Jerry Seinfeld's not apple. | 19:07 |
JesusFreak316 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRaLpHoZA8E | 19:08 |
JesusFreak316 | Yay for no context. | 19:08 |
stinebd | guess i'll have to switch to potato chips | 19:08 |
stinebd | sigh | 19:08 |
cypherice | i'm tired of using this webirc... whats the server to connect here with mIRC? | 19:08 |
JesusFreak316 | chat.freenode.net | 19:08 |
arrrghhh | freenode | 19:08 |
stinebd | are you on http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Chat ? | 19:09 |
cypherice | yes | 19:09 |
stinebd | then why can't you read what it says above the applet? | 19:09 |
cypherice | LOLOL | 19:09 |
cypherice | didn't saw that | 19:09 |
cypherice | brb | 19:10 |
stinebd | speaking of wiki | 19:10 |
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stinebd | arrrghhh: what happened to those changes i demanded from you? | 19:10 |
stinebd | and don't forget the new covers for the tps reports | 19:10 |
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CypherIce | :) | 19:12 |
arrrghhh | lmao | 19:13 |
arrrghhh | i haven't looked at it. | 19:14 |
arrrghhh | tryin to pull some logs to get this awesome cdma radio working even more awesome. | 19:14 |
CypherIce | hmm i've restarted the device and entered into android with the geny dualboot, and the wifi is ON and connected | 19:14 |
stinebd | forget it, cdma is a lost cause | 19:16 |
arrrghhh | damn you! | 19:17 |
CypherIce | "can't establish a reliable data connection to the server" <-- when i try to log in to the google services | 19:17 |
arrrghhh | i'm too cheap man! | 19:17 |
F22 | lol | 19:17 |
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CypherIce | it seems that the wifi connections is always crashing... it's on, then off, then on, then off... always like this | 19:20 |
F22 | btw Stinebd, there's spam on the Getting the Source page. :P | 19:20 |
F22 | or is it arrrghhh's job to remove it? :P | 19:20 |
stinebd | SPAMSPAMSPAM | 19:20 |
arrrghhh | really? | 19:20 |
F22 | lol, i assume stinebd was/is testing something. | 19:21 |
arrrghhh | i thought all edits had to be approved | 19:21 |
arrrghhh | ah | 19:21 |
stinebd | yeah that edit was me | 19:21 |
arrrghhh | stinespam | 19:21 |
F22 | vandalizing his own page...the stuff some people do for attention...sheesh... :P | 19:21 |
stinebd | well someone has to do it | 19:22 |
stinebd | nobody else stepped up to the plate | 19:22 |
F22 | lol | 19:22 |
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arrrghhh | that's my cue! | 19:22 |
CypherIce | omfg, getting bored of this wifi lol i want apppssss | 19:26 |
arrrghhh | ... | 19:26 |
CypherIce | i'm connected with wifi, but can do anything on the internet... | 19:27 |
CypherIce | not even google page | 19:27 |
CypherIce | "can't do anything" | 19:27 |
arrrghhh | can you use the wifi on other machines? | 19:30 |
CypherIce | haven't tested yet, but in the WinMO i used the wifi perfectly | 19:30 |
JesusFreak316 | Do you not have normal wifi anywhere? | 19:31 |
CypherIce | near home not really, just in pubs or in the city (yeah, i live in a island in the middle of the atlantic... LoL) | 19:32 |
JesusFreak316 | Meh. | 19:33 |
arrrghhh | really? | 19:37 |
arrrghhh | madness. | 19:37 |
arrrghhh | how are you connected now then? | 19:38 |
CypherIce | using my laptop (and it's adsl connection) as a wifi hotspot | 19:38 |
arrrghhh | so you have an adsl modem | 19:39 |
arrrghhh | but no router. | 19:39 |
CypherIce | yup | 19:39 |
arrrghhh | lame. spend $30 :P | 19:40 |
CypherIce | lol i'm used to it already | 19:40 |
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CypherIce | usb connections to do some data transfer is working? | 19:41 |
JesusFreak316 | You sure there's no way to change your encryption in your wifi router app to wpa? | 19:44 |
CypherIce | it's already in wpa mode | 19:45 |
JesusFreak316 | Oh, does it still not work? | 19:45 |
CypherIce | i'm connected to the hotspot | 19:46 |
CypherIce | but can't add a google account or go to google webpage | 19:46 |
arrrghhh | you have to use adb to do any sort of data transfers... the OS is on the SD card remember. | 19:46 |
JesusFreak316 | Oh yeah | 19:47 |
CypherIce | adb? | 19:47 |
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JesusFreak316 | arrrghhh, why is that relevant, he's trying to connect to the internet not transfer files. | 19:48 |
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arrrghhh | JesusFreak316, <CypherIce> usb connections to do some data transfer is working? <----- that's why | 19:49 |
CypherIce | i want to transfer a apk file of a clock that i found in xda developers | 19:49 |
JesusFreak316 | oh | 19:49 |
JesusFreak316 | try droid explorer | 19:49 |
arrrghhh | i'm not that much of an ass, c'mon. | 19:49 |
CypherIce | i'm connected to the wifi hotspot but cant get real internet access... | 19:49 |
arrrghhh | yea droid explorer is awesome on windows | 19:49 |
arrrghhh | but you haven't verified if it's working have you? | 19:50 |
JesusFreak316 | Droid explorer is a Desktop windows app. | 19:50 |
arrrghhh | CypherIce, try the wifi mess you're doing in winmo. does it work? | 19:50 |
CypherIce | yes it works fine | 19:50 |
JesusFreak316 | You tried sites? | 19:50 |
arrrghhh | i was goin to say, connected, got you online the whole schebang? | 19:50 |
CypherIce | yup | 19:51 |
CypherIce | the whole thing | 19:52 |
JesusFreak316 | huh | 19:52 |
JesusFreak316 | I'm trying out connectify right now. | 19:52 |
arrrghhh | did you update the build at all? | 19:52 |
JesusFreak316 | So far I can't get it to connect to the hotspot. | 19:52 |
arrrghhh | never heard of connectify | 19:52 |
JesusFreak316 | It's the wifi sharing app he's using. | 19:53 |
arrrghhh | oh cuz you're too cheap to get a real router :P | 19:53 |
arrrghhh | yea i don't know how well those things work | 19:53 |
arrrghhh | cuz they're all ad-hoc networks... | 19:53 |
CypherIce | arrrghhh update the build of what? i've installed all the lastest updates for the xdandroid | 19:53 |
arrrghhh | never tried an ad-hoc network in android. | 19:53 |
JesusFreak316 | Including zImage and rootfs? | 19:53 |
arrrghhh | CypherIce, yes a build of XDAndroid. if you don't update the modules correctly, wifi won't work. | 19:54 |
CypherIce | updated all according to the tutorial | 19:54 |
CypherIce | just replaced the files | 19:54 |
CypherIce | with the correct name | 19:54 |
JesusFreak316 | Did you delete the old modules file? | 19:54 |
JesusFreak316 | It doesn't overwrite that as they all have different names. | 19:54 |
CypherIce | i think there wasn't any there | 19:55 |
JesusFreak316 | But you DO have a module file currently, right? | 19:55 |
CypherIce | when i unziped the latest kernel it has 2 files (the zimage and the modules file)... i replaced the zimage and the module file was new to there | 19:56 |
JesusFreak316 | Ok, so you only have 1 modules file in the root of your sd, correct? | 19:57 |
CypherIce | yes | 19:57 |
JesusFreak316 | Hmm, that's how it should be. | 19:57 |
arrrghhh | did you check? | 19:58 |
arrrghhh | lol | 19:58 |
CypherIce | hmm i'm downloading the droid explorer to find out 100% | 19:58 |
arrrghhh | translation: he didn't check | 19:58 |
JesusFreak316 | :) | 19:58 |
CypherIce | lolol | 19:58 |
CypherIce | i checked but now i'm confused | 19:59 |
F22 | Xirxes, are you around? | 20:02 |
CypherIce | arrrghhh abd = Android Debug Bridge | 20:07 |
CypherIce | ?? | 20:07 |
CypherIce | that's too complicated lol | 20:07 |
arrrghhh | yes | 20:07 |
arrrghhh | droid explorer is easy if you use windows | 20:07 |
JesusFreak316 | It is rather complicated, especially if you have no linux terminal experience. | 20:07 |
arrrghhh | which i'm assuming you do | 20:07 |
JesusFreak316 | Droid Explorer gives adb a pretty gui. | 20:07 |
arrrghhh | yes | 20:08 |
arrrghhh | the drivers thing is a pita in windows tho | 20:08 |
arrrghhh | much easier in linux. | 20:08 |
arrrghhh | although my drivers haven't disappeared since, so maybe i did something to screw it up lol | 20:08 |
CypherIce | arrrghhh no linux experience at all lolol | 20:08 |
arrrghhh | sometimes i wonder if the devs should've released this hahaha | 20:09 |
arrrghhh | but then i'd never be able to use it either, so go figure. | 20:09 |
CypherIce | i have a icon that i don't know in the left top corner | 20:11 |
CypherIce | lolol | 20:11 |
JesusFreak316 | I've had NO adb issues in Windows. | 20:11 |
CypherIce | droid explorer not working... omfg | 20:12 |
JesusFreak316 | Actually, scratch that. Since I reinstalled Windows I have, probably just forgot to reinstall them. | 20:12 |
JesusFreak316 | What's the error? | 20:12 |
CypherIce | unable to locate android SDK tools.... | 20:12 |
CypherIce | DroidExplorer.0.8.7.2.x86 -- using this version | 20:12 |
arrrghhh | did you install the sdk? | 20:13 |
arrrghhh | i don't remember if droid explorer does that for you or not. | 20:13 |
arrrghhh | i thought it did tho. | 20:13 |
arrrghhh | could be wrong. | 20:13 |
JesusFreak316 | I think Droid explorer does it for you. | 20:13 |
arrrghhh | ja | 20:13 |
JesusFreak316 | It does. | 20:13 |
JesusFreak316 | Which version you running? | 20:14 |
CypherIce | hmm i'm going to try to install it again | 20:14 |
CypherIce | DroidExplorer.0.8.7.2.x86 | 20:14 |
CypherIce | using windows 7 starter | 20:14 |
JesusFreak316 | Oh yeah, 0 devices found. | 20:14 |
JesusFreak316 | Is there a driver to install arrrghhh or should Windows do it? | 20:15 |
JesusFreak316 | Can't remember. | 20:15 |
arrrghhh | need the driver. | 20:15 |
arrrghhh | starter, man you are cheap! :P | 20:15 |
CypherIce | http://de.codeplex.com/releases/view/50997 <-- there are all these droid explorer releases, which one? | 20:16 |
CypherIce | arrrghhh i own a toshiba netbook | 20:16 |
CypherIce | it's the basic OS for this type of machine | 20:16 |
arrrghhh | CypherIce, droidexplorer doesn't include the driver. | 20:16 |
arrrghhh | uhm | 20:16 |
arrrghhh | maybe in your part of the country. | 20:16 |
arrrghhh | that's not even available in the US. | 20:16 |
CypherIce | azores islands... lol | 20:16 |
JesusFreak316 | Ew, Starter edition. | 20:16 |
arrrghhh | yea. | 20:16 |
JesusFreak316 | Pfft, that's not a real place; I've never heard of it. :P | 20:17 |
CypherIce | google it | 20:17 |
CypherIce | azores islands | 20:17 |
CypherIce | lolol | 20:17 |
CypherIce | i live in the biggest one | 20:17 |
JesusFreak316 | Nah, how about we check if you have x86 or x64 windows instead. Do you know? | 20:17 |
CypherIce | nop | 20:17 |
CypherIce | 32 bits | 20:18 |
arrrghhh | my money's on x86 | 20:18 |
arrrghhh | i don't think starter is 64-bit :P | 20:18 |
CypherIce | nop, its 32 | 20:18 |
JesusFreak316 | Thought so. You did download the x86 version right? | 20:18 |
CypherIce | lolol | 20:18 |
JesusFreak316 | x86 is 32 bit x64 is 64 bit. | 20:18 |
CypherIce | yes, x86 | 20:19 |
JesusFreak316 | standalone or setup? | 20:19 |
CypherIce | setup | 20:19 |
JesusFreak316 | Where are the drivers again arrrghhh? | 20:19 |
CypherIce | i'm going to reinstall it | 20:19 |
arrrghhh | blargh | 20:21 |
arrrghhh | nate just posted 'em somewheres lol | 20:21 |
CypherIce | do i uncheck the box - use an existing Android SDK Install - when installing the droid? | 20:22 |
JesusFreak316 | Do NOT use an existing android SDK install. | 20:22 |
arrrghhh | http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/1991522-post2804.html | 20:22 |
JesusFreak316 | YAY, adb works again. | 20:22 |
arrrghhh | CypherIce, you need an existing sdk install. do you have one? | 20:23 |
JesusFreak316 | I just uninstalled the driver then let windows update work its magic again. | 20:23 |
CypherIce | nop | 20:23 |
CypherIce | let me try that nate thing | 20:24 |
JesusFreak316 | arrrghhh: You do know you say android-specific in the link, right? You meant linux-specific I asssume? | 20:25 |
arrrghhh | no did you read the link? | 20:25 |
JesusFreak316 | CypherIce, drivers aren't your issue. | 20:25 |
JesusFreak316 | Yes, what else would you be using adb for than android? | 20:26 |
arrrghhh | uhm we're using android, but it's not full android. bum. | 20:26 |
arrrghhh | it's good, but not perfect. c'mon now. | 20:27 |
JesusFreak316 | I guess, but adb for our devices is pretty much exactly the same, I guess minux booting into recovery. | 20:27 |
arrrghhh | i found that in the g1 forum, i wanted to make sure that disclaimer was in there. | 20:27 |
CypherIce | JesusFreak316 now i passed that issue of the unable to locate android SDK tools.... | 20:28 |
JesusFreak316 | CypherIce, in your Droid Explorer folder in program files you should have a folder called SDK, do you? | 20:28 |
JesusFreak316 | Hooray! | 20:28 |
JesusFreak316 | Now what? | 20:28 |
CypherIce | i'm on the 0 devices found issue | 20:28 |
JesusFreak316 | Ah, now you need drivers. | 20:29 |
CypherIce | :) | 20:29 |
CypherIce | lol | 20:29 |
CypherIce | i guess so lool | 20:29 |
CypherIce | first time it was bad installation | 20:29 |
arrrghhh | nate post | 20:29 |
CypherIce | yup, following the instructions | 20:29 |
JesusFreak316 | Start orb-devices and printers-right click xda-properties-hardware tab-properties-driver tab-uninstall | 20:30 |
JesusFreak316 | If the manual install doesn't work. | 20:30 |
JesusFreak316 | Do what I posted then unplug usb then plug it back it. | 20:31 |
JesusFreak316 | That's what I did at least. | 20:31 |
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remo | guys, the new xdandroid release is in ext2 file | 20:32 |
remo | how do i open it in linux or windows? | 20:32 |
remo | http://files.xdandroid.com/system-FRX02.ext2.zip | 20:33 |
remo | this is the release | 20:33 |
arrrghhh | it's the update | 20:33 |
arrrghhh | replace your old system.ext2 file | 20:33 |
arrrghhh | well extract the zip file | 20:33 |
arrrghhh | you'll get an ext2 file. overwrite your old one with this one. | 20:34 |
remo | i don't have an old android installed | 20:34 |
arrrghhh | well then | 20:34 |
arrrghhh | download a build | 20:34 |
remo | from where? | 20:34 |
arrrghhh | you can't download an update for something you don't have P: | 20:34 |
arrrghhh | how did you get here? | 20:34 |
remo | xdandroid.com :D | 20:34 |
TheDeadCPU | gnite ppl | 20:35 |
arrrghhh | so no forum? | 20:35 |
arrrghhh | g'nite TheDeadCPU | 20:35 |
arrrghhh | what device? | 20:35 |
remo | HTC Fuze | 20:35 |
arrrghhh | k | 20:35 |
arrrghhh | read the first three posts | 20:36 |
arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711692 | 20:36 |
arrrghhh | heck #4 is pretty good too. | 20:36 |
remo | brb then :) | 20:36 |
arrrghhh | enjoy! | 20:36 |
F22 | g'nite fuze | 20:39 |
F22 | er TheDeadCPU | 20:39 |
F22 | lol | 20:39 |
arrrghhh | hahahaha | 20:41 |
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CypherIce | i'm getting a .NET Framework error when initializing droid | 20:44 |
CypherIce | 0 devices found again | 20:44 |
CypherIce | :x | 20:44 |
JesusFreak316 | Meh. | 20:45 |
JesusFreak316 | Whaich version of the .net framework do you have? | 20:45 |
JesusFreak316 | I had that error for a while. | 20:45 |
JesusFreak316 | .net 4 works fine for me. | 20:46 |
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CypherIce | the latest i guess | 20:47 |
arrrghhh | wait | 20:48 |
arrrghhh | are you using the startup app? | 20:48 |
CypherIce | in the left top corner of the pda i have a icon next to the usb connection | 20:48 |
CypherIce | it's the android dummie | 20:48 |
arrrghhh | you installed the cab didn't you. | 20:48 |
CypherIce | the geny dual boot? yes | 20:48 |
arrrghhh | no | 20:48 |
arrrghhh | this isn't a gen.y support room lol | 20:49 |
arrrghhh | the XDAndroid cab. | 20:49 |
arrrghhh | well | 20:49 |
arrrghhh | reef's cab i should say. | 20:49 |
JesusFreak316 | Why does the cab matter? | 20:49 |
arrrghhh | cuz it uses the startup utility by default | 20:49 |
CypherIce | yes the cab | 20:49 |
arrrghhh | and haret doesn't require any dot net nonesense. | 20:50 |
arrrghhh | nonsense | 20:50 |
CypherIce | and used the default startup (without the overclock) | 20:50 |
JesusFreak316 | We're talking about windows 7 .net for droid explorer, silly. | 20:50 |
arrrghhh | that's why JesusFreak316. because he has no clue how it works. | 20:50 |
arrrghhh | oh | 20:50 |
arrrghhh | what? | 20:50 |
arrrghhh | man | 20:50 |
arrrghhh | droid explorer requires that? | 20:50 |
JesusFreak316 | You never had that error with it? | 20:50 |
arrrghhh | oh right i just use adb. | 20:50 |
JesusFreak316 | Yeah. | 20:50 |
arrrghhh | i don't use droid explorer lol | 20:50 |
CypherIce | lolol | 20:50 |
CypherIce | adb is very complicated | 20:51 |
arrrghhh | eh | 20:51 |
JesusFreak316 | It's not THAT bad. | 20:51 |
arrrghhh | i needed shell access for logs | 20:51 |
CypherIce | i've already took a look at it | 20:51 |
arrrghhh | seems like a lot of things are complicated for you CypherIce | 20:51 |
JesusFreak316 | :) dick. | 20:51 |
CypherIce | nop, they are just not working lolol | 20:51 |
CypherIce | i've installed the usb driver correctly | 20:52 |
JesusFreak316 | Did you get to the screen where it says 0 devices found with the picture of a Hero? | 20:53 |
CypherIce | yes | 20:53 |
JesusFreak316 | Oh, then .net really isn't an issue. I never got to that screen when I had .net issues. | 20:53 |
arrrghhh | hahaha | 20:54 |
CypherIce | lolol | 20:54 |
JesusFreak316 | Did you check the "I don't see my device!" link? | 20:54 |
CypherIce | yes | 20:54 |
CypherIce | it went to a youtube clip | 20:54 |
CypherIce | already checked that | 20:54 |
JesusFreak316 | So you do have adb debug on. | 20:55 |
JesusFreak316 | Hmm | 20:55 |
CypherIce | it's exactly the same | 20:55 |
arrrghhh | i'm gonna go with driver jim | 20:55 |
arrrghhh | driver for 200 | 20:55 |
JesusFreak316 | Try what I said earlier. | 20:55 |
JesusFreak316 | Start orb-devices and printers-right click xda-properties-hardware tab-properties-driver tab-uninstall | 20:55 |
arrrghhh | start orb lol | 20:56 |
arrrghhh | i actually had to think about that at first, is that bad? | 20:56 |
CypherIce | LOL | 20:56 |
JesusFreak316 | That's what it's called actually, haha. | 20:56 |
CypherIce | ok, let me try tha | 20:56 |
arrrghhh | never heard it called that. | 20:56 |
JesusFreak316 | I think. | 20:56 |
arrrghhh | i still call it the start menu, damnit. | 20:56 |
CypherIce | me neither lol | 20:56 |
arrrghhh | it's still a menu! | 20:56 |
arrrghhh | JesusFreak316 i just an elitest. | 20:57 |
arrrghhh | is* | 20:57 |
arrrghhh | not i lol | 20:57 |
JesusFreak316 | But you don't click on the menu, you click on the orb to bring up the menu. | 20:57 |
CypherIce | LOL | 20:57 |
JesusFreak316 | So yeah, I'm a nitpicky elitist. | 20:57 |
CypherIce | <JesusFreak316> Do what I posted then unplug usb then plug it back it. just done it.... | 20:59 |
JesusFreak316 | Is it searching for drivers? | 21:00 |
CypherIce | yes | 21:00 |
CypherIce | don't know which drivers is going to pick | 21:00 |
JesusFreak316 | Just hope it picks the right ones. :) It said HTC dream for me. | 21:01 |
CypherIce | htc dream? LoL | 21:01 |
CypherIce | it just said the same thing to me | 21:01 |
CypherIce | i've done refresh on the droid | 21:01 |
CypherIce | now it show a lots of 00000 | 21:01 |
JesusFreak316 | HTC Dream is another name for the G1. | 21:01 |
JesusFreak316 | That's a good thing. | 21:01 |
JesusFreak316 | That's its adb number for some reason. | 21:02 |
CypherIce | connecting | 21:02 |
CypherIce | done :) connected | 21:02 |
CypherIce | lolol | 21:02 |
JesusFreak316 | I win arrrghhh, my tip worked. | 21:02 |
CypherIce | a lot of folders omg | 21:02 |
CypherIce | lol | 21:02 |
JesusFreak316 | :P | 21:02 |
JesusFreak316 | ^Spitting tongue at you not a silly smile. | 21:03 |
JesusFreak316 | There's a sdcard folder. :) | 21:03 |
JesusFreak316 | Stick to there for now. | 21:03 |
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JesusFreak316 | I made him leave. :( | 21:03 |
CypherIce | lolol | 21:03 |
CypherIce | i didn't left | 21:04 |
CypherIce | he | 21:04 |
JesusFreak316 | I was spitting my tongue out at arrrghhh. :) | 21:04 |
CypherIce | hmm where can i put the apz files inside the sdcard folder? can i create a folder for that purpose? | 21:04 |
CypherIce | WAITTT i have 2 modules tar.gz | 21:05 |
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JesusFreak316 | He had 2 modules files. | 21:05 |
JesusFreak316 | ... | 21:05 |
CypherIce | modules-2.6.27.46-01162-g741ab49.tar.gz AND modules-2.6.27.46-01222-g9825e75.tar.gz | 21:05 |
CypherIce | i haven't noticed that before | 21:05 |
arrrghhh | yea. | 21:07 |
JesusFreak316 | Well, don't delete it now. | 21:07 |
arrrghhh | lots of facepalms today. | 21:07 |
JesusFreak316 | Go into Winmo first. | 21:07 |
JesusFreak316 | Just delete both and extract the zImage-modules file again. | 21:07 |
CypherIce | hmm okay... | 21:08 |
CypherIce | maybe that's why wifi isn't working... | 21:08 |
arrrghhh | definitely a factor. | 21:08 |
arrrghhh | user-error is always a factor. | 21:08 |
CypherIce | LoLoL | 21:08 |
CypherIce | arrrghhh i'm just new to this... | 21:08 |
CypherIce | <CypherIce> hmm where can i put the apz files inside the sdcard folder? can i create a folder for that purpose? <--- i have the xdandroid on the root directory | 21:09 |
arrrghhh | that's not really a good excuse... | 21:09 |
arrrghhh | there's a ton of things to read | 21:09 |
arrrghhh | and 99% of your questions are answered in an faq. | 21:09 |
arrrghhh | the adb information isn't that well documented, but other than that... all your issues are well-documented. | 21:10 |
JesusFreak316 | apk files can go anywhere. You can install the apk through droid explorer. | 21:10 |
arrrghhh | AndroidApps | 21:10 |
arrrghhh | they'll get installed automatically that way | 21:10 |
CypherIce | hmm okay | 21:12 |
CypherIce | first going to re-arrange those modules... lol | 21:12 |
JesusFreak316 | Re-arrange? | 21:13 |
arrrghhh | yea... i was going to ask about that. | 21:13 |
arrrghhh | they're not flowers. | 21:13 |
JesusFreak316 | Delete both then reextract them. | 21:13 |
CypherIce | delete and create again the zimage thing | 21:13 |
JesusFreak316 | lol | 21:13 |
CypherIce | lol | 21:13 |
CypherIce | a question that i think that isn't in any faq lolol | 21:13 |
arrrghhh | delete all zimage/modules from the card. | 21:13 |
JesusFreak316 | No need to do anything with zImage. | 21:13 |
arrrghhh | it is | 21:13 |
arrrghhh | rename it to zimage... | 21:14 |
CypherIce | where are the sms recorded in the android? | 21:14 |
arrrghhh | basically take all the #'s and special characters off of it. | 21:14 |
arrrghhh | in messaging? | 21:14 |
arrrghhh | whaddya mean recorded? | 21:14 |
CypherIce | yup. in messaging | 21:14 |
arrrghhh | i think that's the biggest problem with most noobies. they don't know how to search. | 21:14 |
CypherIce | recorded = saved | 21:14 |
arrrghhh | in messaging app | 21:15 |
JesusFreak316 | Not that simple. You'd need an app to back them up. | 21:15 |
arrrghhh | lol yea sorry. | 21:15 |
arrrghhh | i didn't realize you wanted a backup of your texts. | 21:15 |
arrrghhh | i just uh... text message people and then they text me back. | 21:15 |
CypherIce | LoLoL | 21:16 |
arrrghhh | and then i delete it when the convo is done. | 21:16 |
JesusFreak316 | Paranoid much? | 21:16 |
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CypherIce | i need all my sms saved | 21:16 |
CypherIce | there're very hot sms in there | 21:16 |
CypherIce | lolol | 21:16 |
JesusFreak316 | ... | 21:16 |
arrrghhh | uh | 21:17 |
arrrghhh | JesusFreak316, eh not paranoid. just OCD. | 21:17 |
JesusFreak316 | Afraid of too many texts slowing you down? | 21:17 |
arrrghhh | i've never understood why anyone would want ALL texts saved. | 21:17 |
arrrghhh | JesusFreak316, no i just don't like clutter :P | 21:17 |
JesusFreak316 | Ah. | 21:17 |
CypherIce | i have more than 3000 sms saved in winmo | 21:18 |
arrrghhh | wtf | 21:18 |
JesusFreak316 | My phone just autodeletes. | 21:18 |
arrrghhh | do you reference them daily? | 21:18 |
arrrghhh | 3000? | 21:18 |
arrrghhh | why? | 21:18 |
CypherIce | and that it's just the receveid ones | 21:18 |
arrrghhh | if there's a phone number in there, i save it to my contact list LOL | 21:18 |
JesusFreak316 | So he can look at his "hot sms" | 21:18 |
arrrghhh | oh right. | 21:18 |
CypherIce | LoLoL | 21:18 |
CypherIce | thats right | 21:18 |
CypherIce | to remember the old good days too | 21:18 |
arrrghhh | he sends himself texts to make himself feel better lol | 21:18 |
arrrghhh | sexting himself. | 21:18 |
arrrghhh | that's a new kind of masturbation! | 21:19 |
JesusFreak316 | Ew | 21:19 |
CypherIce | -.-'' | 21:19 |
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arrrghhh | man i know how to clear out a room, that's for sure. | 21:22 |
CypherIce | or maybe thats just what u think | 21:22 |
CypherIce | :p | 21:22 |
arrrghhh | creepy. | 21:23 |
CypherIce | booting xdandroid with only one module | 21:31 |
CypherIce | lolol | 21:31 |
arrrghhh | magic | 21:32 |
CypherIce | wifi working nice | 21:34 |
CypherIce | lets see if i cant connect to the market | 21:34 |
arrrghhh | you mean can, c'mon think positive! | 21:34 |
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arrrghhh | coming from me, that's rich lol | 21:34 |
CypherIce | not thinking positive worked | 21:35 |
CypherIce | lol | 21:35 |
CypherIce | still same thing | 21:35 |
arrrghhh | can't even browse to www.google.com .. ? | 21:35 |
remo | just installed android and just finished the screen calibration, its now showing a screensaver type thing, which says xdandroid | 21:35 |
JesusFreak316 | You deleted both files and reextracted? | 21:35 |
arrrghhh | remo, yes it's booting | 21:35 |
remo | so, i just wait? | 21:35 |
arrrghhh | remo, how long has it been? first boot can take up to 10 minutes. | 21:35 |
CypherIce | remo yes | 21:35 |
remo | its only been around 3 mins now | 21:36 |
arrrghhh | keep waitin ;) | 21:36 |
CypherIce | JesusFreak316 deleted both modules and putted the latest module file into the root directory | 21:36 |
remo | :) thanks guys | 21:36 |
JesusFreak316 | Ok, that's what you're supposed to doe CypherIce | 21:36 |
arrrghhh | is everything in the root or is it in andboot? | 21:36 |
arrrghhh | i thought the cab installs to andboot | 21:36 |
JesusFreak316 | remo, what does the text say atm? | 21:36 |
JesusFreak316 | arrrghhh root | 21:36 |
remo | i just installed the cab | 21:36 |
CypherIce | everything in root | 21:37 |
CypherIce | cab installs in root | 21:37 |
CypherIce | :) | 21:37 |
remo | also, i think i messed up one of the points on the screen calibration screen | 21:37 |
CypherIce | i'm seeing wifi always disconecting and connecting :S | 21:37 |
remo | i think i tapped somewhere else for one of them :( | 21:38 |
remo | is that bad? | 21:38 |
JesusFreak316 | CypherIce, does it say getting ip address over and over again? | 21:38 |
arrrghhh | remo, could be | 21:39 |
CypherIce | yup | 21:39 |
arrrghhh | if it is a problem, delete the ts-calibration file and try again. | 21:40 |
remo | where is that file located? | 21:40 |
JesusFreak316 | Mine does the same thing with connectify... | 21:40 |
JesusFreak316 | You might want to try a different wifi sharing app. | 21:40 |
CypherIce | so the problem is from the wifi hotspot created with connectigy | 21:40 |
JesusFreak316 | Possibly. | 21:40 |
CypherIce | hmm don't think theres another one to windows 7 | 21:40 |
arrrghhh | remo, whereever you run haret.exe from | 21:40 |
arrrghhh | root of SD card it sounds like. | 21:41 |
JesusFreak316 | You could manually do it. | 21:41 |
remo | oh | 21:41 |
arrrghhh | CypherIce, it may not work in ad-hoc mode... as i've said before. | 21:41 |
arrrghhh | android isn't nearly complete on our phones. | 21:41 |
JesusFreak316 | http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/Using-ICS-Internet-Connection-Sharing | 21:41 |
remo | let me see how everything goes :) | 21:41 |
JesusFreak316 | arrrghhh does have a point. | 21:41 |
arrrghhh | i've never tried to connect to an ad-hoc network in android. | 21:42 |
arrrghhh | i'm always around some real wifi :P | 21:42 |
CypherIce | tomorrow i will try in the pub | 21:42 |
JesusFreak316 | Me too. | 21:42 |
CypherIce | lolol | 21:42 |
CypherIce | this is a real wifi too :p | 21:42 |
CypherIce | maybe not as real as your, but real enough lol | 21:43 |
arrrghhh | ad-hoc isn't the same. | 21:43 |
JesusFreak316 | Rofl http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boh92DrYEWs&feature=related | 21:43 |
arrrghhh | if it was real enough it'd work wouldn't it mate ;) | 21:44 |
CypherIce | yup, you've got a point there lol | 21:45 |
remo | arrrghh its been about 12 mins now :( | 21:45 |
CypherIce | JesusFreak316 that link u showed there about the ICS has one problem.. i don't have a hub | 21:46 |
CypherIce | LoLoL | 21:46 |
arrrghhh | remo, raph or rhod | 21:46 |
JesusFreak316 | Same thing for wireless. | 21:46 |
JesusFreak316 | Let me try it. | 21:46 |
remo | mine is a fuze | 21:46 |
arrrghhh | just reboot then | 21:46 |
arrrghhh | hit the soft reset button at the bottom | 21:47 |
arrrghhh | and try again | 21:47 |
remo | k | 21:47 |
remo | would something happen to my windows mobile? | 21:47 |
JesusFreak316 | no | 21:47 |
arrrghhh | shouldn't | 21:47 |
remo | k | 21:47 |
arrrghhh | this is all at your own risk tho | 21:47 |
JesusFreak316 | http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CBoQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgizmodo.com%2F5421088%2Fget-internet-connection-sharing-in-windows-7-starter-in-one-easy-step&ei=V_zdTMSdDYWBlAfbxbTaDA&usg=AFQjCNEGpgjOPCCtxO6sCgWQqoqMfeAH1A&sig2=l53KRG_KIec2Dli8Mk3eWA | 21:48 |
remo | i know :) | 21:48 |
arrrghhh | well if something happens, just hold JesusFreak316 responsible. | 21:48 |
JesusFreak316 | Especially for windows 7 starter. | 21:48 |
JesusFreak316 | Jerk. | 21:48 |
arrrghhh | lmao | 21:48 |
remo | jesus will always be there for me, right :D | 21:48 |
arrrghhh | oh boy | 21:49 |
JesusFreak316 | Haha, what a witty pun; never heard that before. | 21:49 |
JesusFreak316 | :p | 21:49 |
remo | should i just uninstall android and start all over again? | 21:49 |
arrrghhh | no no | 21:49 |
arrrghhh | do what i said | 21:49 |
remo | k | 21:49 |
JesusFreak316 | Try this CypherIce | 21:50 |
JesusFreak316 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBAS-a1smFo | 21:50 |
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CypherIce | let me see | 21:51 |
remo | the bugs are flying and writing again :) | 21:51 |
arrrghhh | what's up XirXes | 21:51 |
XirXes | nothing at alli | 21:51 |
JesusFreak316 | Actually I don't think that helps with Wifi actuallly. :( | 21:52 |
JesusFreak316 | Just buy a router, 'k? | 21:52 |
remo | i have it up and running | 21:53 |
arrrghhh | good | 21:53 |
arrrghhh | aren't you glad you listened to me :P | 21:53 |
arrrghhh | XirXes, you're got a 210 right? | 21:53 |
XirXes | yeah | 21:53 |
remo | yes. thanks so much arrrghhh | 21:53 |
arrrghhh | bah that does me no good. get a 100, F22's my go-to 210 guy :P | 21:53 |
arrrghhh | remo, no worries. | 21:53 |
CypherIce | JesusFreak316 no problem... i will try in a "real" wifi hotspot | 21:54 |
CypherIce | lol | 21:54 |
arrrghhh | none of this face crap CypherIce :P | 21:54 |
F22 | lol | 21:54 |
F22 | XirXes, are you having issues with incoming calls too? | 21:55 |
XirXes | no. tho I've only had 3 in android since I got my sim back | 21:55 |
XirXes | but they all worked fine | 21:55 |
CypherIce | arrrghhh tomorrow i'm going to arrive with the good news that i've sucessfully connected to market :D | 21:56 |
F22 | every call i put into my phone today went straight to the answering machine, not a single one rang. | 21:56 |
arrrghhh | lol i hope so CypherIce | 21:56 |
arrrghhh | F22, that's weird. even after reboots? | 21:56 |
F22 | i haven't really tested it before...so i have no idea if it's something new. | 21:56 |
remo | arrrghhh, yeah, i messed up the screen calibration. its not responding to where i am touching | 21:56 |
F22 | yup, even after reboots. | 21:56 |
arrrghhh | i'm on the bastard child cdma and my incoming calls work :P | 21:56 |
remo | how should i do that now? just delete that ts-config file and restart android? | 21:56 |
F22 | outgoing is fine. | 21:56 |
arrrghhh | remo, delete ts-calibration file | 21:56 |
CypherIce | remo yes | 21:56 |
arrrghhh | in winmo, reboot. it'll take you thru the calibration process on the next boot of android. | 21:57 |
F22 | it's almost like my phone is set to ignore all incoming calls. | 21:57 |
remo | how do i get out of android now? | 21:57 |
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arrrghhh | same way you did in that bootloop lol | 21:57 |
F22 | i wonder if there is a setting for that somewhere in android. i took a quick look earlier but may have missed it. | 21:57 |
arrrghhh | hit the soft reset pin | 21:57 |
remo | oh :D | 21:58 |
arrrghhh | F22, not to my knowledge, but like i you say i've never looked for it hahaha. not really a desirable setting "ignore incoming calls" | 21:58 |
arrrghhh | that's what "silent" is for :P | 21:58 |
F22 | yup, i'm not on silent however. but i do have another bit of weirdness that may or may not be connected... | 21:58 |
F22 | my power menu only has power off. doesn't have mute or the other thing... | 21:59 |
arrrghhh | airplane mode? | 22:00 |
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F22 | when i long press power, nope. | 22:00 |
CypherIce | omfg i just found out that xdandroid as the portuguese language... | 22:00 |
CypherIce | beautiful :D | 22:00 |
arrrghhh | weird. F22 what about end? | 22:00 |
arrrghhh | end key long press that is | 22:01 |
F22 | same deal | 22:01 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 22:01 |
arrrghhh | newest reference? | 22:01 |
F22 | call stopped working as call too, but the soft button for call still works. | 22:01 |
F22 | i still have all my old kernels, rootfs's and system.ext's, so i can figure it out. it's just going to be a pain... | 22:03 |
remo | screen is good now :) | 22:03 |
remo | thanks again | 22:03 |
arrrghhh | np | 22:04 |
arrrghhh | F22, try the data.img first. | 22:04 |
F22 | that's actually a very good idea. | 22:04 |
arrrghhh | that little bugger seems to fawk up in the oddest ways. | 22:04 |
* arrrghhh usually has those. | 22:04 | |
F22 | i've had quite a bit of weirdness with recreated data images. | 22:04 |
arrrghhh | usually. | 22:04 |
F22 | especially this one. | 22:04 |
arrrghhh | lol | 22:04 |
F22 | for example, i lost several of my widgets in this one, including google search and news/weather. | 22:05 |
arrrghhh | hrm. | 22:05 |
F22 | so the data image may well be the problem. | 22:05 |
arrrghhh | yea, get rid of that data.img. | 22:05 |
arrrghhh | it smells from here haha. | 22:07 |
arrrghhh | hopefully after all this hardware nonsense is settled that'll get more attention. | 22:08 |
F22 | lol | 22:08 |
F22 | btw, is there a way to get titanium to do a full restore all in one shot? or do you have restore everything individually? | 22:08 |
arrrghhh | pay | 22:08 |
arrrghhh | gotta pay to play | 22:09 |
F22 | bah | 22:09 |
arrrghhh | I was just talking about that in #htc-linux lol | 22:09 |
F22 | i'm tempted to just copy over all the .apk files by hand. | 22:09 |
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F22 | one cp command will copy them all over in one shot. | 22:09 |
F22 | that doesn't mean it will necessary work. :P | 22:09 |
arrrghhh | hahaha | 22:10 |
arrrghhh | cp & pray | 22:10 |
F22 | but at some point i may get annoyed enough at the time it takes to do them all one by one and take the time to figure it out. | 22:10 |
F22 | for moment i have bigger fish to fry, like making my phone work as a phone... :P | 22:10 |
arrrghhh | yea i got some good logs from that reboot | 22:11 |
F22 | linux doesn't keep a registry thank god. | 22:11 |
arrrghhh | going to file a bug when i feel like it lol | 22:11 |
arrrghhh | seriously | 22:11 |
arrrghhh | i try to explain that to people in the know about windows and they don't get it most of the time. unless they remember ini's lmao | 22:12 |
F22 | no registry makes transferring programs so much easier... | 22:12 |
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CypherIce | this droid is so slow initializing | 22:16 |
arrrghhh | well it at least makes it feasible. | 22:17 |
arrrghhh | CypherIce, get your money back. | 22:17 |
CypherIce | money? it was free lol | 22:17 |
arrrghhh | that's the joke... | 22:17 |
arrrghhh | whew. | 22:17 |
F22 | i still remember the stupid issue with windows 98 where the registry memorized the drive letter of your cd-rom, and refused to reinstall software if you moved the drive to a different letter because the new letter wasn't the original drive used to install the software. bleh. there was a lot of stupid crap like that in the windows registry. it's gotten better, but it's still a pain to deal with at times, particularly when you have to clean up | 22:17 |
CypherIce | coming from u i've learned that everything is possible | 22:18 |
CypherIce | lol | 22:18 |
arrrghhh | well cleanup is almost impossible because of its gigantic size. | 22:18 |
F22 | yup | 22:20 |
F22 | linux is so much more modular... | 22:20 |
arrrghhh | why do you think my router and file server are running it right now :P | 22:21 |
arrrghhh | oh yea and mah phone. | 22:21 |
arrrghhh | and toaster. | 22:21 |
remo | i can't even find my wifi in the available networks list, why is that? | 22:21 |
arrrghhh | uh | 22:21 |
remo | i can see my neighbor's on here | 22:21 |
arrrghhh | that's for cell radio | 22:21 |
arrrghhh | oh | 22:21 |
F22 | heheheh...linux/unix server farms often run multiple duties, it's pretty rare for a windows server to do more than one thing. | 22:22 |
arrrghhh | it's not hidden? i have no clue why it would show your neighbor's. | 22:22 |
CypherIce | now droid can't find SDCARD LOLOL omfg :D | 22:22 |
arrrghhh | seriously. we had a dhcp server setup that was win2k3. all that bloat for dhcp. | 22:22 |
remo | let me just check again if its not hidden | 22:22 |
arrrghhh | CypherIce, it's mounted... | 22:22 |
arrrghhh | you won't be able to 'cept thru adb | 22:23 |
CypherIce | it's tru droid explorer | 22:23 |
arrrghhh | looks like you gotta learn how to troubleshoot boy | 22:23 |
CypherIce | guess so | 22:25 |
arrrghhh | c'mon man you live on an islandd | 22:26 |
arrrghhh | you should know about self-sufficiency lol | 22:26 |
arrrghhh | so what did you try | 22:26 |
CypherIce | an island with shopping centers and mcdonalds :D | 22:27 |
arrrghhh | really? | 22:27 |
arrrghhh | wtf. | 22:27 |
CypherIce | yup | 22:27 |
arrrghhh | doesn't sound like an island i'd want to visit. | 22:27 |
CypherIce | http://www.lennartz-electronic.de/Media/GIFs/azores.gif | 22:29 |
CypherIce | http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5766/fotoax9.jpg | 22:29 |
CypherIce | that last one is from my island... | 22:30 |
CypherIce | see u back in 5min because lauching droid explorer freezes my netbook lolol | 22:30 |
CypherIce | hmm sdcard now appears but empty | 22:31 |
arrrghhh | that's good right | 22:35 |
CypherIce | should be appearing all the xdandroid stuff? | 22:36 |
CypherIce | shouldn't.. | 22:36 |
arrrghhh | sounds good to me. | 22:37 |
arrrghhh | you mean you see nothing? | 22:37 |
arrrghhh | /sdcard is empty? | 22:38 |
CypherIce | yes | 22:38 |
arrrghhh | dunno. | 22:42 |
arrrghhh | ls it | 22:42 |
arrrghhh | in terminal emulator | 22:42 |
arrrghhh | under dev tools | 22:42 |
arrrghhh | D/OtaStartupReceiver( 2448): Not a CDMA phone, no need to process OTA <------------ but my phone is a cdma phone! i'm guessing this process doesn't matter. | 22:42 |
CypherIce | right... | 22:44 |
CypherIce | so no solution yet lol | 22:44 |
CypherIce | usb debugging connected and usb connected | 22:45 |
arrrghhh | I/DEBUG ( 1886): debuggerd committing suicide to free the zombie! | 22:45 |
arrrghhh | lmao that's the error i think | 22:46 |
arrrghhh | did you try what i asked you to try?!? | 22:46 |
remo | thanks again guys. eveything's working now. bye | 22:46 |
CypherIce | terminal emulator, wright something | 22:47 |
CypherIce | "D/OtaStartupReceiver" | 22:47 |
CypherIce | this? | 22:47 |
arrrghhh | CypherIce, no sorry. | 22:47 |
arrrghhh | CypherIce, ok get to terminal emulator | 22:47 |
CypherIce | i'm there | 22:48 |
arrrghhh | ls /sdcard | 22:48 |
arrrghhh | that's L and S /sdcard | 22:48 |
CypherIce | lol i know... nothing happens | 22:49 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, you around? got a juicy logcat for you. | 22:49 |
arrrghhh | weird. | 22:49 |
CypherIce | ls /sdcard and then "enter" nothing | 22:49 |
arrrghhh | dunno how you can be in android without the sd mounted | 22:49 |
CypherIce | maybe a reboot will do the work | 22:49 |
arrrghhh | perhaps | 22:50 |
arrrghhh | what does it matter tho? | 22:50 |
arrrghhh | what are you trying to do? | 22:50 |
stinebd | arrrghhh: paste and link me, i'll get to it eventuall | 22:50 |
stinebd | and empty /sdcard sounds like that diamond internal storage missing partition table thing | 22:50 |
arrrghhh | ok. there's a fun fault | 22:50 |
arrrghhh | it's a rhod tho | 22:50 |
arrrghhh | w/a sd card | 22:51 |
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CypherIce | its a blackstone | 22:51 |
CypherIce | lolol | 22:51 |
arrrghhh | I/DEBUG ( 1886): signal 7 (SIGBUS), fault addr 00000000 <------- that looks like fun stinebd | 22:51 |
arrrghhh | oh sorry. blackstone. either way, it's an sd card :P | 22:51 |
stinebd | yeah we've seen those before | 22:51 |
CypherIce | arrrghhh im trying to install a apk tru the droid explorer | 22:51 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, basically hitting the volume repeatedly caused it haha. | 22:51 |
stinebd | uh huh | 22:52 |
stinebd | nothing new then | 22:52 |
arrrghhh | aw. | 22:52 |
arrrghhh | i was hoping you hadn't seen a log of it. | 22:52 |
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arrrghhh | i got a logcat from when the phone rebooted | 22:52 |
arrrghhh | just to the boot anim | 22:52 |
arrrghhh | call kept going for a little while | 22:53 |
stinebd | trace of the sigbus isn't useful anyway | 22:53 |
arrrghhh | it was entertaining | 22:53 |
arrrghhh | well i got a logcat | 22:53 |
stinebd | seems like the frame pointer gets knocked out by jit or something | 22:53 |
arrrghhh | and logcat -b radio from the incident. | 22:53 |
arrrghhh | hrm. | 22:53 |
stinebd | i repro'd with jit turned off and got a real backtrace but haven't really pursued it | 22:53 |
arrrghhh | fair enough | 22:54 |
stinebd | btw turning jit off is as simple as a setprop | 22:54 |
arrrghhh | so you have to disable jit to get a good picture of what's going on? | 22:54 |
stinebd | in certain cases, it seems so | 22:55 |
arrrghhh | hm | 22:55 |
stinebd | probably in cases where the crash is in jni | 22:55 |
stinebd | as i've noticed it happen with the volume thing (where android eventually calls a c++ library function to change volume) and also with gallery3d in rotating (where it calls the opengl provider library) | 22:56 |
arrrghhh | ah | 22:57 |
stinebd | if you want to turn off jit and do it and send me the log, that might be helpful | 22:58 |
arrrghhh | k what's the setprop to disable jit? | 22:58 |
stinebd | setprop dc.jit.active false | 22:59 |
stinebd | and reboot | 22:59 |
arrrghhh | Oo i thought i did the setprop when android was running. do i put that in the startup then? | 22:59 |
stinebd | you do the setprop while it's running | 22:59 |
stinebd | then reboot. | 22:59 |
arrrghhh | ah i see. never rebooting from adb, cool. | 23:00 |
stinebd | i'm mostly inactive till wednesday (on a stretch of about 2 weeks without time off at work) so there's no rush on this | 23:00 |
arrrghhh | oic | 23:01 |
arrrghhh | no worries | 23:01 |
arrrghhh | didn't expect you to fix it tomorrow. | 23:01 |
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arrrghhh | just trying to track down at least the cause of some of these weird issues if i can :D | 23:01 |
arrrghhh | i was going to submit a bug, but i figured i should mention it to you before embarrassing myself. | 23:01 |
pitflyer | Hi there! I hear you guys gave elvin a fix for RHOD210 wifi issue? | 23:01 |
arrrghhh | uhm... yes. | 23:02 |
arrrghhh | but it's quite silly. | 23:02 |
stinebd | we really need to look into (and mostly confirm) the issues with keyguard as well | 23:02 |
arrrghhh | F22 just built him a wifi-nvram.txt file | 23:02 |
pitflyer | I'm ok with silly if it works.. OK. F22 around now? | 23:02 |
pitflyer | I posted my init file as he requested | 23:02 |
arrrghhh | well just take his wifi-nvram.txt and put your mac in. i think it's all you really need. | 23:02 |
F22 | i'm in the middle of something right now, will you be around for awhile pitflyer? | 23:02 |
pitflyer | Sure, I can check in again later. Thanks | 23:03 |
F22 | check back in about 20 minutes from now if you can. | 23:03 |
pitflyer | That works. Be back around 11:30pm ET. Thanks! | 23:03 |
F22 | sounds good | 23:03 |
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stinebd | oh arrrghhh, if that setprop doesn't disable jit, try this one: setprop dalvik.vm.execution-mode int:fast | 23:06 |
stinebd | and re-enable with setprop dalvik.vm.execution-mode int:jit | 23:07 |
arrrghhh | oh does that pass a value to the system so it'll always be off? | 23:07 |
arrrghhh | how can i even tell if it's on or off? | 23:07 |
stinebd | logcat | 23:08 |
stinebd | if it's on, it periodically spews a stats message (arena pages) | 23:08 |
arrrghhh | huh | 23:09 |
arrrghhh | ok | 23:09 |
arrrghhh | definitely getting better at reading/understanding dmesg, because i've seen those before. | 23:11 |
stinebd | that's not dmesg :P | 23:11 |
arrrghhh | logcat is still new, but a lot of it is familiar in one way or another. | 23:11 |
arrrghhh | good ole java errors. | 23:11 |
arrrghhh | oh yea i know haha | 23:11 |
CypherIce | well see u all tomorrow [[]] thks for all the help :) | 23:12 |
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arrrghhh | oy. i hate cmd. | 23:13 |
arrrghhh | can you reboot from adb? | 23:13 |
arrrghhh | all my familiar linux commands are non-starters. | 23:14 |
stinebd | sure | 23:14 |
stinebd | echo 1 >/something/something/vregs/msma | 23:14 |
arrrghhh | lol | 23:14 |
stinebd | /dbgfs/vregs/msma | 23:15 |
stinebd | instant reboot :P | 23:15 |
stinebd | might wanna sync first | 23:15 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 23:15 |
arrrghhh | oh that'll soft reset | 23:15 |
arrrghhh | i was hoping for android only. meh | 23:15 |
stinebd | killall zygote | 23:15 |
stinebd | sometimes it doesn't recover well from that though | 23:16 |
arrrghhh | muahhahaha | 23:16 |
stinebd | although that's mostly if the environment changed | 23:16 |
arrrghhh | ha | 23:17 |
arrrghhh | rebooting for sure | 23:17 |
arrrghhh | speaker is making wacky noises now lmao | 23:17 |
arrrghhh | at least the wackiness isn't loud. | 23:17 |
arrrghhh | so far no more jit messages... | 23:19 |
arrrghhh | so stinebd will this jit-disable trick persist until i either a) delete my data.img, or b) re-enable it manually? | 23:24 |
stinebd | yes | 23:24 |
arrrghhh | excellent. thank you sir. | 23:25 |
stinebd | bedtime | 23:27 |
arrrghhh | g'nite | 23:27 |
stinebd | i shall dream of uninformative xdandroid crash logs | 23:27 |
arrrghhh | no, they will be informative!! | 23:28 |
arrrghhh | or let's hope so. | 23:28 |
stinebd | i suffer from night terrors | 23:28 |
arrrghhh | lol | 23:28 |
F22 | g'nite stinebd | 23:30 |
F22 | pleasant dreams :D | 23:30 |
F22 | of gingerbread... ;) | 23:30 |
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pitflyer | Hi F22, any time for a wifi-nvram.txt I can try? | 23:39 |
F22 | i'd rather try to solve the actual problem first. | 23:40 |
pitflyer | Sure, I'm happy to do both... If there is a wifi-nvram.txt I can manually place int o verify it works, then I can start from scratch if you'd like (redownload, reupdate, etc) | 23:41 |
F22 | give me a few min to look at your init. didn't get the chance to look at it yet. | 23:41 |
pitflyer | ok thanks | 23:41 |
F22 | if the same 3 lines are in a different order that may well be our problem. | 23:41 |
pitflyer | I will be stepping away from my computer for a few minutes, but if you have a file you want me to try or specific steps just post them here and I will report back. | 23:44 |
F22 | damn, you have the same exact init he does. | 23:47 |
F22 | which is 3 lines different from mine. same 3 lines. | 23:47 |
F22 | all 3 lines relate to wifi. | 23:47 |
arrrghhh | wth | 23:48 |
arrrghhh | is there some build floating around that's plaguing only 210s ? | 23:48 |
F22 | ok, i'm going to upload a copy of mine and give you the link pitflyer, then i'll give you some instructions. | 23:49 |
pitflyer | I started with the reference build from this site on Sun | 23:49 |
pitflyer | And then updated zimage and rootfs on Tue/Wed.. nothing else | 23:49 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 23:49 |
pitflyer | by 'this site' i mean the sites.google.com/site/androidpart | 23:49 |
arrrghhh | that's very odd. | 23:49 |
arrrghhh | lol | 23:49 |
pitflyer | androidport, even | 23:49 |
arrrghhh | not this site, but that's ok. | 23:49 |
arrrghhh | i assumed xdandroid.com | 23:49 |
pitflyer | yeah, thats why I wanted to larify | 23:49 |
F22 | that might be the issue. | 23:49 |
pitflyer | I'm in the little chat window on that site | 23:50 |
arrrghhh | which you can download updates from, but i don't think builds are posted there. | 23:50 |
pitflyer | From the thread in the forum I used this link: | 23:50 |
F22 | someone here might have done some "adjusting" to get wifi to work on our handsets. | 23:50 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 23:50 |
pitflyer | http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/downloads | 23:50 |
pitflyer | i'l follow your instructions f22, and I can try from xdandroid.com too | 23:50 |
F22 | 351a352,355 | 23:51 |
F22 | > | 23:51 |
F22 | > [ -f /etc/wifi/wlan.ko ] && rm /etc/wifi/wlan.ko | 23:51 |
F22 | > cp -R /etc/wifi/* /data/modules/ | 23:51 |
F22 | > depmod | 23:51 |
F22 | 355d358 | 23:51 |
F22 | < | 23:51 |
F22 | 358,363d360 | 23:51 |
F22 | < | 23:51 |
F22 | < cp -R /etc/wifi/* /data/modules/ | 23:51 |
F22 | < depmod | 23:51 |
arrrghhh | no no it's fine | 23:51 |
F22 | < | 23:51 |
F22 | < [ -f /etc/wifi/wlan.ko ] && rm /etc/wifi/wlan.ko | 23:51 |
F22 | < | 23:51 |
arrrghhh | cccccombo breaker? | 23:51 |
pitflyer | are these lines in my init to change? | 23:51 |
F22 | i'll just give you a new one to download. | 23:51 |
pitflyer | ok. | 23:51 |
pitflyer | but if I'm reading that correctly, is that diff between your init and mine? Which one has the 'rm' statement in it, yours or mine? | 23:53 |
F22 | http://www.mediafire.com/?ol8f537c0k8w7o4 | 23:55 |
F22 | you wouldn't by any chance happen to have adb would you pitflyer? | 23:55 |
pitflyer | nope, never did get around to installing it since you gave me the work around to cp the file to \sdcard | 23:55 |
pitflyer | so copy that new init to sdcard, boot into androind, copy over the 'real' init in the root file system and reboot? | 23:57 |
arrrghhh | yes. and with adb it'd be 1 step lol | 23:57 |
pitflyer | OK. No biggie | 23:58 |
pitflyer | will report back | 23:58 |
F22 | the real init is actually in the rootfs.img | 23:59 |
F22 | so you'll need to do it from within android's terminal emulator. | 23:59 |
F22 | dropping it into andboot or the root of your sdcard isn't enough. | 23:59 |
pitflyer | Yep, Dev Tools->Term Emulator, cp /sdcard/init.txt /init | 23:59 |
F22 | yup, you've got it. | 23:59 |
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