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| F22 | stinebd: the 11/8 rootfs commit may be causing wifi problems for rhodium users. specifically i'm seeing bad wifi-nvram.txt files out there, and both users with the problem whose init scripts i've looked at just happen to have the 11/8 version. I gave them both functional wifi-nvram.txt scripts and that cleared up their issues. I've since had 3 additional confirmations that a new wifi-nvram cleared up wifi problems. The init script is res | 06:56 |
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| ftvm | hello all | 08:34 |
| ftvm | the news for fixed battery code ??? for me ? | 08:36 |
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| arrrghhh | F22, u around? | 12:57 |
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| ftvm | hello all | 13:18 |
| Tandyman100 | Hey JesusFreak316, you haven't beed around in a while it seems | 13:23 |
| arrrghhh | his hd2 is getting all his attention now. | 13:23 |
| Tandyman100 | He has an HD2?!?!?!? | 13:23 |
| Tandyman100 | :O | 13:23 |
| Tandyman100 | I jelly | 13:24 |
| arrrghhh | ja he's got a bunch of smartphones now. | 13:24 |
| arrrghhh | but his actual phone is an old dumbphone. | 13:24 |
| arrrghhh | makes me LOL | 13:24 |
| arrrghhh | although it sounds like he may actually activate the hd2 eventually... | 13:25 |
| F22 | I'm here arrrghhh, but not for long. | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | no worries, just seeing you got a dmesg for wistilt | 13:25 |
| F22 | yup :) | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | i'll try to get all three logs up today. | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | not sure if the radio has anything to do with it | 13:25 |
| arrrghhh | but stine said to get a good logcat of this problem jit has to be disabled. | 13:26 |
| Tandyman100 | I wish I could afford an HD2, but an unlocked one costs more than a quad-core desktop. | 13:26 |
| arrrghhh | i guess jit obstrufcates the error | 13:26 |
| arrrghhh | or however you spell it | 13:26 |
| F22 | i have a pandora crash dmesg for wistilt2 too | 13:26 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:26 |
| arrrghhh | he paid $150 Tandyman100 | 13:26 |
| F22 | verys imilar | 13:26 |
| F22 | similar | 13:26 |
| arrrghhh | cool | 13:26 |
| F22 | i was playing with volume when it crashed | 13:26 |
| Tandyman100 | arrrghhh, how did he pull THAT?!? | 13:26 |
| arrrghhh | i wasn't getting a dmesg log | 13:26 |
| arrrghhh | i'll do that now with the rest of 'em :D | 13:27 |
| arrrghhh | Tandyman100, CL? | 13:27 |
| Tandyman100 | lucky. nothing good ever on our local CL | 13:27 |
| Tandyman100 | Oh, well. | 13:27 |
| F22 | first time i tried to get a dmesg my phone didn't cooperate. it booted into the animation, but then freaked after coming back up and booted into win mo before i could grab the dmesg. | 13:28 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 13:28 |
| arrrghhh | i'm just going to run 'em. | 13:28 |
| arrrghhh | the make the call and hopefully the crash. | 13:28 |
| Tandyman100 | Oh, wait. http://wichita.craigslist.org/mob/2056426226.html | 13:28 |
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| Tandyman100 | I have never been more in want of a hundered bucks | 13:28 |
| arrrghhh | it's pretty consistent if i abuse the volume. | 13:28 |
| arrrghhh | you live in kansas? i'm sorry :P | 13:28 |
| Tandyman100 | ^exactly | 13:30 |
| arrrghhh | F22, doesn't look like WisTilt put out a new kernel... did he? | 13:34 |
| F22 | define new kernel | 13:34 |
| arrrghhh | the last one i pulled haha | 13:34 |
| arrrghhh | i read the logs, i didn't see him mention one. | 13:34 |
| arrrghhh | looks like the last one i pulled was around 23:50 on the 12th | 13:35 |
| F22 | there's a newer one from last night, but it didn't fix anything. | 13:36 |
| F22 | he's still looking for the variable that the volume meter is using. | 13:36 |
| F22 | he's hoping to put out a fix that forced that variable to match the one the kernel is setting. | 13:37 |
| F22 | forced=forces | 13:37 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 13:38 |
| arrrghhh | so userland and kernel-land match lol | 13:38 |
| F22 | yup | 13:38 |
| ftvm | hello ... all | 13:38 |
| F22 | well they do now, sort of, but not until the first press, and only if you aren't increasing above 5 or decreasing below 0, and it's backwards. Kernel is forced to that other variable as soon as you hit one of the other volume buttons. | 13:39 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 13:39 |
| arrrghhh | it's just that first time | 13:39 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:39 |
| arrrghhh | where up can be down and down can be up depending on where it's at. | 13:39 |
| ftvm | for my problem of sound stutter, i make test ... with flash firmware of diamond ... | 13:39 |
| ftvm | result same ... | 13:39 |
| arrrghhh | like radio firmware? | 13:39 |
| arrrghhh | that wouldn't have anything to do with it. | 13:39 |
| F22 | dunno | 13:40 |
| F22 | well it looks like my guest has cancelled. cool. :P | 13:42 |
| F22 | have you seen my posts to xda arrrghhh? | 13:42 |
| arrrghhh | ...? | 13:42 |
| arrrghhh | not today | 13:42 |
| F22 | it means i don't have to leave my computer to go entertain. :P | 13:42 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 13:43 |
| arrrghhh | oic | 13:43 |
| ftvm | what's news for a update of battery code ??? | 13:43 |
| arrrghhh | "i can't take it anymore, i'm gonna have to go back to WM" | 13:44 |
| arrrghhh | i hate people. | 13:44 |
| arrrghhh | ftvm, it's been patched potentially, but it's not commited yet | 13:44 |
| ftvm | ok no problem ... is good !!! | 13:44 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 13:45 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps i can let you test it... | 13:45 |
| arrrghhh | wifi won't work th | 13:45 |
| arrrghhh | tho* | 13:45 |
| ftvm | i flash my firmare with other firm | 13:45 |
| arrrghhh | it'd be _just_ for testing. | 13:45 |
| arrrghhh | radio firmware has nothing to do with this. | 13:45 |
| arrrghhh | you flash whatever radio seems to work best. | 13:46 |
| ftvm | same result ... then ... i back old firmware | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 13:46 |
| F22 | lol, i ignored the going back to WM post. some people just don't get that experimental software is just that, experimental, you're going to have to suffer a bit unless you're willing to roll up your sleeves and fix things yourself, and even then you'll likely suffer a little, just in a different way. :P | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | amen. | 13:46 |
| ftvm | same firmware wm ???? | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | are you talking about your WinMo ROM? | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | or radio firmware. | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | i'm betting ROM. | 13:47 |
| ftvm | yes arrghhh | 13:47 |
| ftvm | i talk of winMo ROM | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | again | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | makes no difference to android. | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | just one may get you into android faster lol | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | energy makes a lite rom that tries to boot android basically asap | 13:47 |
| ftvm | ok ok ... i understand ... | 13:47 |
| arrrghhh | good | 13:48 |
| arrrghhh | :) | 13:48 |
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| ftvm | arrrghhh> my setting actually remove ... all battery control | 13:55 |
| arrrghhh | not surprised. | 13:55 |
| ftvm | not change for power conso but out of control !!! | 13:55 |
| ftvm | yes ... it's disturbing to not having as landmarks | 13:58 |
| ftvm | not indicator battery lol | 13:58 |
| F22 | arrrghhh, hmmm...just noticed something about karan1203's startup now that you've chimed in too. | 13:59 |
| arrrghhh | yea? | 13:59 |
| arrrghhh | he had several deprecated commands in there. | 13:59 |
| F22 | he had: 7x00.a11=500 | 13:59 |
| arrrghhh | yes indeed. | 14:00 |
| F22 | you've taken it out in yours. | 14:00 |
| arrrghhh | that's really deprecated. | 14:00 |
| F22 | but that's not the option. | 14:00 |
| F22 | the actual option is: | 14:00 |
| F22 | clock-7x00.a11=500 | 14:00 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:00 |
| arrrghhh | did you see how he was saying "i'm not a noob" and "developers know there's an issue" | 14:00 |
| F22 | lol, yup | 14:01 |
| arrrghhh | tool | 14:01 |
| F22 | msmts_calib is also optional now btw, you left that one in. funny thing is that i didn't realize that the clock line was optional too. :P | 14:02 |
| F22 | is there a master list of current options aside from reefer's out of date one? | 14:04 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't realize that was deprecated | 14:04 |
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| arrrghhh | i guess that's provided my ts-calibration now? | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | that's really deprecated lol | 14:05 |
| arrrghhh | what's up Joachim | 14:05 |
| TheDeadCPU | bored | 14:06 |
| TheDeadCPU | you? | 14:06 |
| ftvm | i tested on my diam, a little acpuclock.oc_freq_khz=650000 | 14:06 |
| ftvm | this working fine ... | 14:06 |
| ftvm | i tested with a cpu benchmark ... | 14:06 |
| arrrghhh | i have my set to like 714 something | 14:07 |
| arrrghhh | eh not much dude. slept in for once. | 14:07 |
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| F22 | arrrghhh, not sure why it got deprecated, i caught wistilt2 discussing the fact that it was no longer needed with stinebd or bzo a month ago or so in htc-linux. | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:10 |
| arrrghhh | i caught you! | 14:10 |
| arrrghhh | yea i was reading the logs of what you guys did last night haha | 14:10 |
| F22 | that was a good session. :D | 14:11 |
| F22 | we identified what was going on with the volume meter and the snd setting. | 14:11 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 14:11 |
| * arrrghhh was not allowed near his laptop last night | 14:12 | |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:12 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 14:12 |
| F22 | i was wondering what happened to you... | 14:12 |
| TheDeadCPU | He had 2 hot females in his home. | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | gf had some female friends over | 14:12 |
| F22 | i guess your girlfriend took control for the night... | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | she puts her foot down sometimes. says i spend too much time on the 'puter. | 14:12 |
| arrrghhh | makes me play video games | 14:13 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:13 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 14:13 |
| F22 | * imagines arrrghhh handcuffed to his bed, his laptop sitting just out of reach while several lovelies set about distracting him... | 14:13 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 14:13 |
| F22 | :P | 14:13 |
| arrrghhh | to do that you do /me fyi ;) | 14:14 |
| F22 | lol, thanks | 14:14 |
| arrrghhh | np :D | 14:14 |
| F22 | it's been too long since the last time i was active on irc. | 14:14 |
| F22 | i've forgotten all the commands. :P | 14:14 |
| F22 | and i was too lazy to look that one up just now. :P | 14:15 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahaha | 14:15 |
| arrrghhh | yea dude it's been years for me too | 14:15 |
| arrrghhh | like probably... 10-12 years? since i was on all the time... | 14:16 |
| F22 | bleh, my guest came for lunch anyway...duty calls... | 14:16 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:16 |
| arrrghhh | cya in a few :P | 14:16 |
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| fattie | does anyone get stuck when loading haret? | 14:38 |
| TheDeadCPU | Yes. | 14:39 |
| fattie | maybe you can help me my phone since yesterday has been stuck during the load and the last line says init: to open persistent property directory /data/property errno: 2 | 14:40 |
| fattie | it was working fine before yesterday havent changed any files that i know of | 14:42 |
| krzee | any mac users here have a favorite way of syncing to their apple? from my google im looking at salling media sync | 14:43 |
| Khaytsus | Why not use the cloud? | 14:49 |
| arrrghhh | gmail ftw | 14:49 |
| arrrghhh | gsync or whateveer | 14:50 |
| TheDeadCPU | Gmail push<3 | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 14:50 |
| Khaytsus | erm, yeah, google calendar/mail/contacts. | 14:50 |
| Khaytsus | Sync directly with PCs is sooo 2000 | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | cradles | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | pah | 14:50 |
| krzee | ahh, ya im not putting all my stuff on google's servers =/ | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:50 |
| Khaytsus | hooboy | 14:50 |
| arrrghhh | then don't use android | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | AT ALL | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | or winmo | 14:51 |
| * Khaytsus gets out the aluminum foil | 14:51 | |
| arrrghhh | or a mac | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | or wait | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | don't use the internet. | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | they'll get you thru those copper lines | 14:51 |
| arrrghhh | YOU MUST CUT THEM | 14:51 |
| Tandyman100 | lol | 14:51 |
| krzee | ive been around long enough to know i can use the computer/phone without giving every contact i have to google | 14:51 |
| krzee | but thx | 14:51 |
| Khaytsus | Because google gives a damn about your contacts | 14:51 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 14:51 |
| Tandyman100 | exactly | 14:51 |
| TheDeadCPU | Yea, one questions. Why the fuck not? | 14:52 |
| Tandyman100 | I use google's exchange server to sync INSTANTLY my contacts and calendar between three laptops, a desktop, and four phones | 14:52 |
| Khaytsus | If Eric starts calling my mom at 3am, then we'll revisit this discussion. | 14:52 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 14:52 |
| krzee | i guess i have been involved in a lot more stuff i shouldnt than you guys | 14:52 |
| Khaytsus | lulz | 14:53 |
| arrrghhh | 'eric schimidt here. you're a WHORE' | 14:53 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 14:53 |
| arrrghhh | krzee, fitting name. | 14:53 |
| TheDeadCPU | Yea, if you're a criminal or have sensetive data then k | 14:53 |
| TheDeadCPU | Even though Google is coming with some super secure thing now | 14:53 |
| Khaytsus | Yeah, need to get out the burner phones for that shit, j0 | 14:53 |
| TheDeadCPU | Oh, that was a secret from google to me | 14:53 |
| Khaytsus | TheDeadCPU: Kind of like porn mode in Chrome, there's a Dealer mode for sync? | 14:54 |
| arrrghhh | lol you mean that gov't contract that went to microsoft? | 14:54 |
| TheDeadCPU | Nope, they're making this new authentication thing | 14:54 |
| TheDeadCPU | I've tried it, it's super secure | 14:54 |
| TheDeadCPU | You need an Android phone for it though | 14:55 |
| arrrghhh | I'd be more worried about Steve Jobs than Google krzee | 14:55 |
| TheDeadCPU | True | 14:55 |
| krzee | i dont store any of my info on their servers either | 14:55 |
| arrrghhh | you have a mac. | 14:56 |
| Khaytsus | google is in ur phone stealing ur bitz | 14:56 |
| TheDeadCPU | And 9/11 was an inside job? | 14:56 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:56 |
| TheDeadCPU | If you have a mac they have ALL your info | 14:56 |
| TheDeadCPU | And I mean ALL | 14:56 |
| krzee | arrrghhh, and? i paid cash to a friend who works on corporate campus | 14:56 |
| Khaytsus | TheDeadCPU: Remember. The WT7 wasn't hit by a plane. | 14:56 |
| arrrghhh | lmao it's still a mac. | 14:56 |
| arrrghhh | i don't care how you procured it | 14:57 |
| TheDeadCPU | Seriously, I called tech support, they could see what I did on my screen. | 14:57 |
| krzee | if i dont type in my info, how do you propose they have it...? | 14:57 |
| TheDeadCPU | They know your location too | 14:57 |
| arrrghhh | you're trying to sync your phone to it?? | 14:57 |
| arrrghhh | so because you don't physically type it, you think your data is secure. | 14:57 |
| TheDeadCPU | And since you BOUGHT a mac they got all your data | 14:58 |
| TheDeadCPU | Seeing as you can't buy a mac (unless second hand) without them knowing who you are | 14:58 |
| krzee | TheDeadCPU, how so | 14:58 |
| TheDeadCPU | Did you pay cash? | 14:59 |
| krzee | yes | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 14:59 |
| krzee | TheDeadCPU, [15:56] <krzee> arrrghhh, and? i paid cash to a friend who works on corporate campus | 14:59 |
| arrrghhh | did you not see him say that? | 14:59 |
| TheDeadCPU | oh | 14:59 |
| TheDeadCPU | Then you're fine, but they still know where you are lol | 14:59 |
| krzee | heh | 14:59 |
| TheDeadCPU | And can see everything you so on your screen :P | 14:59 |
| TheDeadCPU | do on* | 14:59 |
| krzee | anyways, sorry for taking you guys so far off topic, ill continue with what i find on google | 14:59 |
| TheDeadCPU | krzee, no harm, we're off topic quite often | 15:00 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 15:00 |
| arrrghhh | yea we do try to help when needed. | 15:00 |
| arrrghhh | and we all sync with google. | 15:00 |
| arrrghhh | because it's easy, and i guess i don't care if they have my contact list. | 15:00 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 15:00 |
| arrrghhh | not like they have my ssn | 15:00 |
| krzee | nothin wrong with that =] | 15:00 |
| TheDeadCPU | Well, I even give people my real name | 15:01 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 15:01 |
| TheDeadCPU | I even have my real name on irc, if you whoid | 15:01 |
| TheDeadCPU | whois* | 15:01 |
| krzee | heh salling media sync is out of the question anyways... seems they require mounting the USB which looks like it can only be done when you dont need the OS on the sd card | 15:03 |
| krzee | looks like ill be buying mark/space missing sync, i used to use it for my win-mo htc wizard, and maybe thats the price i have to pay to not use google | 15:06 |
| arrrghhh | dude how many people use gmail | 15:07 |
| arrrghhh | do you really think your data is going to stick out from everyone else's? | 15:07 |
| krzee | nope, but i did read the license message you checked where it says they can and will database everything you give them | 15:08 |
| krzee | which i chose to not agree to | 15:08 |
| krzee | i respect that you dont care, but i choose to not opt-in | 15:08 |
| arrrghhh | well yea | 15:09 |
| arrrghhh | i do care, but my contact list is the least of my worries. do you not have an email account? | 15:09 |
| arrrghhh | they could get way worse stuff about me personally from my email than from my freakin contact list. | 15:10 |
| arrrghhh | meh i'm not here to argue. | 15:10 |
| krzee | i have an email server if that counts | 15:10 |
| krzee | but i dont use it for anything very personal | 15:10 |
| krzee | i agree, no reason to argue | 15:10 |
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| Kraln | Hi guys. Grabbed the latest release, it appears to only have the filesystem, and not haret or anything else -- am I doing it wrong? | 15:13 |
| krzee | Kraln, is it possible you grabbed android instead of xdandroid? | 15:14 |
| Kraln | system-FRX02.ext2.zip <- latest release | 15:14 |
| Kraln | inside, system.ext2 | 15:14 |
| Kraln | as per http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Installation_Guide | 15:14 |
| Khaytsus | That's the latest system, yes | 15:16 |
| Khaytsus | You need dow download the latest project release first I suppose. | 15:16 |
| krzee | ahh looks like that guide takes you through manual steps in which you need to seperately grab haret | 15:16 |
| Kraln | For this guide it is assumed that the XDAndroid base files within the andboot directory. Please note that you will need to add "rel_path=andboot" to your startup.txt (not including the quotes). | 15:17 |
| Khaytsus | Yeah, doesn't really seem that clearly written | 15:17 |
| Kraln | is there a more-well written one? | 15:17 |
| Khaytsus | I installed mine using the XDA Developer thread info | 15:20 |
| Khaytsus | Been a while though | 15:20 |
| Khaytsus | What I installed was a zip or rar that had everything in it in one place, then you could update pieces from there. | 15:21 |
| krzee | as did i (needed monodie, didnt have much choice) | 15:21 |
| Kraln | do you remember what the file was called? | 15:21 |
| Khaytsus | I was trailing Android to see if I liked it enough to buy a new phone :) | 15:21 |
| Khaytsus | Sec if you still need it, I'm doing something atm | 15:22 |
| Khaytsus | [MJG]Rhod.2.1Sense.042810.rar was one I have here from long ago :) | 15:22 |
| Kraln | htc touch pro 2 cdma? | 15:23 |
| Khaytsus | Has andboot/apps misc stuff, haret, initrd.gz, system.sqsh, rootfs.img, zImage, build.prop, startup.txt etc | 15:23 |
| Khaytsus | Touch Pro 2 GSM was what I had | 15:23 |
| Kraln | k | 15:25 |
| Khaytsus | HAVE actually, I have yet to sell it :( | 15:27 |
| Khaytsus | I should have sold it in a month or so.. been sitting on my desk for like 5 | 15:27 |
| Kraln | oh? | 15:27 |
| Khaytsus | I was going to put it on ebay and just never got around to it | 15:27 |
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| Kraln | ah there we go | 15:48 |
| Kraln | 2.2 on my tp2 ;) | 15:48 |
| Kraln | NO SPACE LEFT ON DEVICE | 15:48 |
| Kraln | shiiiiiiii | 15:49 |
| Tandyman100 | lol | 15:58 |
| Tandyman100 | What you got, a 1GB SD card? | 15:59 |
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| Kraln | 512mb | 16:07 |
| Kraln | it's 8gb now | 16:07 |
| Kraln | and everything works | 16:07 |
| Kraln | 3g, calling, awesome | 16:07 |
| Kraln | aww, no camera | 16:08 |
| Kraln | aww. | 16:09 |
| Tandyman100 | yeah | 16:13 |
| Tandyman100 | IKR? | 16:13 |
| TheDeadCPU | INORITE | 16:13 |
| TheDeadCPU | I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT CAMERA | 16:13 |
| Tandyman100 | pretty much, yeah | 16:15 |
| Tandyman100 | Kralin: 512MB and out of space? | 16:15 |
| Tandyman100 | Delete your pr0n, dude ;P | 16:15 |
| Kraln | pictures/ | 16:27 |
| Kraln | well, I'm developing an app that uses the camera. | 16:27 |
| arrrghhh | puttin the cart before the horse eh | 16:30 |
| Kraln | :p | 16:30 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 16:33 |
| stinebd | [06:56:34] <F22> stinebd: the 11/8 rootfs commit may be causing wifi problems for rhodium users. specifically i'm seeing bad wifi-nvram.txt files out there, and both users with the problem whose init scripts i've looked at just happen to have the 11/8 version. I gave them both functional wifi-nvram.txt scripts and that cleared up their issues. I've since had 3 additional confirmations that a new wifi-nvram cleared up wifi problems. The | 16:47 |
| stinebd | init script is res | 16:47 |
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| F22 | hmmm? | 16:48 |
| stinebd | a) mind finishing that? b) it doesn't do anything with wifi-nvram.txt | 16:48 |
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| F22 | the init script creates wifi-nvram.txt with a dd. | 16:49 |
| Kraln | hmm | 16:49 |
| Kraln | my screen went black | 16:49 |
| Kraln | and won't come back | 16:49 |
| arrrghhh | sleep OF DEATH | 16:50 |
| stinebd | yeah, the 20101108 rootfs changes didn't touch the nvram stuff | 16:50 |
| arrrghhh | potentialy | 16:50 |
| arrrghhh | potentially | 16:50 |
| arrrghhh | sometimes it just doesn't like to wake. | 16:50 |
| Kraln | sleep of death? | 16:50 |
| stinebd | it actually was minor changes in a conditional above that | 16:50 |
| Kraln | any way to poke it into submission? | 16:50 |
| arrrghhh | F22, yea i don't think that the newest rootfs caused this issue. | 16:50 |
| ftvm | lol sleep of death !!! | 16:50 |
| ftvm | mmmmmmmmm | 16:50 |
| arrrghhh | whatever issue was caused is old. | 16:50 |
| F22 | not directly no. but the changes in init relate to wifi. i haven't traced it fully through. so the connection is simply circumstantial at this point. | 16:52 |
| stinebd | the connection is non-existent | 16:53 |
| stinebd | the changes don't relate to wifi in particular, just kernel modules | 16:53 |
| Kraln | who do I have to give $150 for my camera to work =p | 16:53 |
| arrrghhh | i do wonder why some phones have bad inits tho. | 16:53 |
| F22 | lol, that they do. but well....i'm not going to argue with you at this point. you sound certain. | 16:54 |
| stinebd | Kraln: htc, to buy a new phone | 16:54 |
| Kraln | lol :-D | 16:54 |
| arrrghhh | Kraln, money is not the issue. | 16:54 |
| arrrghhh | you can and should donate | 16:54 |
| arrrghhh | but that's no guarantee that the camera will work tomorrow. | 16:54 |
| Kraln | I'd guess that camera is a weird hardware thing, like the broadcom chipset | 16:54 |
| arrrghhh | it is certainly a piece of hardware. | 16:55 |
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| Kraln | is it still reasonable to buy a nexus one or are there better phones? | 16:57 |
| arrrghhh | opinion. | 16:57 |
| arrrghhh | i'd get g2 if i was to get a phone right now. | 16:57 |
| arrrghhh | but i'm not. | 16:57 |
| stinebd | and if it weren't on effing tmobile | 16:58 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 16:58 |
| Kraln | my problem is I have the slickest sprint account imaginable | 16:58 |
| arrrghhh | are the frequencies different for at&t? what am i saying, of course they are. | 16:58 |
| stinebd | 3g freqs are different | 16:59 |
| arrrghhh | Kraln, let's not get into that. | 16:59 |
| Kraln | oh? | 16:59 |
| ftvm | before camera, i think important, resolve all other problems lol | 16:59 |
| stinebd | you can get a g2 and use it on att. but you get dialup data speeds | 16:59 |
| arrrghhh | talking about what deals we have isn't a good idea. | 16:59 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, nice. | 16:59 |
| arrrghhh | do eeeeet | 16:59 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:59 |
| Kraln | well, I don't want to get into it either, but I'd rather not leave sprint. | 16:59 |
| arrrghhh | ftvm, glad you're prioritizing things for us... | 16:59 |
| arrrghhh | ditto | 16:59 |
| arrrghhh | so get an epic | 16:59 |
| arrrghhh | or an evo | 16:59 |
| ftvm | yes yes ... of course ! | 17:00 |
| Kraln | am considering the 4g galaxy s phone | 17:00 |
| TheDeadCPU | Epic 4G | 17:00 |
| arrrghhh | that's about it for sprint. | 17:01 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 17:01 |
| F22 | stinebd, the only diff between the init they had and mine are those 3 lines you moved around. so if those lines aren't responsible, then i'm at a loss to explain the problem beyond flaky hardware, or possibly its something that isn't deterministic. | 17:01 |
| Kraln | hmm no location on rhodium either | 17:02 |
| arrrghhh | gps works | 17:02 |
| arrrghhh | but that's it | 17:02 |
| arrrghhh | no cell-tower love for cdma. | 17:02 |
| Kraln | oh? navigation was crashing | 17:02 |
| arrrghhh | hm | 17:03 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 17:03 |
| arrrghhh | navi works for me | 17:03 |
| arrrghhh | but it does crash | 17:03 |
| arrrghhh | not all the time lol | 17:03 |
| ftvm | navi work for me also ... perfect ! | 17:03 |
| ftvm | except if bad overclock !!! ... and corrupt ... data.img for example ... | 17:04 |
| ftvm | result .. navi can crashing !!! | 17:04 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 17:04 |
| Kraln | no overclock | 17:04 |
| arrrghhh | oc does fun things | 17:04 |
| Kraln | I know better than to fuck with tiny mobile arm chips | 17:05 |
| ftvm | my oc is 660000 khz, i monitor ! lol | 17:05 |
| ftvm | oc may corrupt many file on the SD card, not only data.img ! | 17:07 |
| ftvm | i work with backup of my sd card ... lol | 17:09 |
| Kraln | 2.2 is almost usable :) | 17:09 |
| Kraln | coming from 1.1, it is a big improvement | 17:10 |
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| Kraln | heh, gps is returning 0,0 | 17:23 |
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| ftvm | gps is work for me on diam 100 | 17:25 |
| Kraln | gps_thread received 0 events | 17:37 |
| Kraln | gps_msm7k | 17:37 |
| Kraln | yeah, it's not getting anything | 17:37 |
| arrrghhh | Kraln, use quickgps in winmo | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | or gps status in android | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | it'll get a faster lock. | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | plus, don't try to get a lock in your basement | 17:39 |
| ftvm | gps status is very good !!!! yes | 17:40 |
| Tandyman100 | why no lock in the basement? | 17:42 |
| Tandyman100 | keeps the girls from escaping | 17:43 |
| Kraln | arrrghhh: I'm on the 11th floor of a high rise | 17:43 |
| Kraln | 11-14 17:44:38.280: DEBUG/gps_msm7k(1278): gps thread received 1 events | 17:45 |
| Kraln | ooh! an event! | 17:45 |
| Kraln | 11-14 17:46:43.200: ERROR/PowerManagerService(1278): getAutoBrightnessValue : 11-14 17:46:43.200: ERROR/PowerManagerService(1278): java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException | 17:47 |
| Kraln | nice. | 17:47 |
| Kraln | SIGSEV in mediaserver | 17:49 |
| Kraln | worth reporting these anywhere? | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | Kraln, probably not the best place to get a gps lock. | 17:59 |
| arrrghhh | on the roof of said high rise, another story. | 17:59 |
| Kraln | man fsck takes forever | 18:12 |
| Kraln | hmm | 18:20 |
| Kraln | it rebooted and came up without any network; airplane mode only? | 18:20 |
| arrrghhh | crashes happen. | 18:20 |
| Kraln | I rebooted it | 18:20 |
| Kraln | but why did it come back up without any network? | 18:20 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 18:21 |
| arrrghhh | doesn't like you | 18:21 |
| Kraln | fair enough, I don't like me | 18:24 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:25 |
| arrrghhh | force cdma should be the only setting that would muck with the radio. | 18:25 |
| arrrghhh | oh and i know if the phone is a 'world' phone and you're using it on cdma you can't have a sim in the thing. | 18:26 |
| Kraln | oh? worked the first three times I booted | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | wat | 18:32 |
| Kraln | yeah, left the sim in | 18:32 |
| Kraln | came up cdma data just fine | 18:32 |
| arrrghhh | and you're on cdma? | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | wtf do you need the sim for | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | i hear it's inconsistent. | 18:33 |
| Kraln | roaming :) | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | i don't have a sim, so i can't really test it. | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | meh i don't feel like paying for another provider just to roam lol | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | well you get the choice | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | cdma or gsm | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | in android | 18:33 |
| arrrghhh | not both | 18:33 |
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| Kraln | I'll pull the SIM and try again, how about that? :) | 18:35 |
| Kraln | oh god | 18:37 |
| Kraln | windows mobile had put the phone into gsm mode | 18:37 |
| Kraln | /that's/ why | 18:37 |
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| arrrghhh | ah | 18:38 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps | 18:38 |
| Kraln | ack, it's fscking | 18:39 |
| Kraln | again | 18:39 |
| arrrghhh | does every time | 18:44 |
| JesusFreak316 | Tandyman, I'm still here. | 18:53 |
| JesusFreak316 | At least 'til Christmas. :P | 18:53 |
| TheDeadCPU | What about Christmas? | 18:59 |
| * TheDeadCPU loves Christmas | 19:00 | |
| TheDeadCPU | Gnite ppl! | 19:01 |
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| coolbtk | Hello all. I have been using xdandroid on my HTC Fuze for about a month now. I just tried to update my zImage and rootfs.img with the latest releases from the home page by following the directions here: http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Incremental_Updates | 19:06 |
| coolbtk | I'm having a problem booting now, and deleting data.img doesn't help | 19:07 |
| coolbtk | it's saying "mount: mounting /dev/block/loop2 on /rfs failed: Invalid argument" | 19:07 |
| arrrghhh | did you rename the files? | 19:07 |
| coolbtk | then dropping me to a prompt | 19:07 |
| coolbtk | yes, I renamed the files | 19:07 |
| arrrghhh | and deleted the old ones? | 19:08 |
| arrrghhh | although an old modules file shouldn't stop you from booting. | 19:08 |
| stinebd | did you unzip the rootfs? | 19:08 |
| coolbtk | Hey, arrrghhh! you helped me get this set up in the first place. Thanks again. | 19:08 |
| arrrghhh | ah crap, don't blame me :P | 19:08 |
| coolbtk | yes, deleted the old modules tar.gz | 19:08 |
| arrrghhh | yea it should be rootfs.img... yes? | 19:08 |
| coolbtk | rootfs.img, zImage, and modules-2.6.27.46-01212-ge59fdaf.tar.gz | 19:09 |
| coolbtk | are the two files changed, and one added, respectively | 19:09 |
| coolbtk | if i deleted data.img, it still creates the problem | 19:10 |
| stinebd | exactly how big is the new rootfs.img | 19:10 |
| coolbtk | if i put the old zImage, rootfs.img, and modules back, I get a different error, and when I restore from my backup, it boots beautifully again | 19:10 |
| arrrghhh | you're doing something wrong then. | 19:11 |
| coolbtk | rootfs.img is 15728640 bytes | 19:11 |
| arrrghhh | unless there's a horrible new bug preventing you from booting lol | 19:11 |
| coolbtk | lol | 19:11 |
| coolbtk | oh wait, that's my backed up rootfs.img | 19:12 |
| coolbtk | let me check the new one | 19:12 |
| coolbtk | huh... 0 bytes | 19:16 |
| coolbtk | that might be part of the problem... lol | 19:16 |
| arrrghhh | lol that might be a problem. | 19:16 |
| coolbtk | the weird thing is, i extracted it twice... | 19:17 |
| coolbtk | and i jsut extracted it again, exactly the same way | 19:17 |
| coolbtk | and now it appears to be booting | 19:17 |
| arrrghhh | *shrug* | 19:17 |
| coolbtk | oh, and arrrghhh, i definitely wasn't blaming you. I was saying you helped me to get this working in the first place, not that you had anything to do with the current problem | 19:18 |
| arrrghhh | i was jk | 19:18 |
| arrrghhh | no sweat ;) | 19:18 |
| coolbtk | I'm so happy to not be running WinMo anymore. lol | 19:18 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 19:18 |
| arrrghhh | yea i can't exactly run android full-time | 19:18 |
| arrrghhh | but it is nice | 19:18 |
| coolbtk | Since what I use this thing for isn't even possible with WinMo, as far as I know | 19:18 |
| arrrghhh | do i want to know? | 19:19 |
| coolbtk | heh | 19:19 |
| coolbtk | I'm always in Airplane Mode, turn WiFi on, use Google Voice, GV Callback, and SipDroid with Sipgate.com for 100% free wifi phone service. | 19:19 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 19:20 |
| arrrghhh | i should try that for my daytime minutes. | 19:20 |
| coolbtk | I couldn't find a sip client for WinMo to save my life | 19:20 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 19:20 |
| arrrghhh | probably not | 19:20 |
| coolbtk | there are rumors there's one hiding in there somewhere, but I couldn't find it | 19:20 |
| coolbtk | the only thing that i boot WM for now is camera | 19:21 |
| coolbtk | well, and haret. lol | 19:22 |
| coolbtk | Do you happen to know if there's some way to get Flash Player installed on a Fuze running froyo? | 19:24 |
| coolbtk | It's not showing up in the market, I assume because Adobe releases different versions for different devices... | 19:24 |
| stinebd | flash is not and will likely never be supported on xdandroid | 19:25 |
| coolbtk | that's what I figured, but I didn't know if it had somehow been made to work | 19:26 |
| coolbtk | Is that due to differences in the coding of xdandroid, hardware changes, or just because adobe doesn't target it? | 19:27 |
| Kraln | so | 19:27 |
| stinebd | the hardware is incapable | 19:28 |
| Kraln | the newer phones have hardware accelerated flash stuff | 19:28 |
| coolbtk | ah. alright. thanks. | 19:29 |
| coolbtk | Is there a list somewhere of things people can do to help the xdandroid project? | 19:33 |
| coolbtk | things that are needed, etc? | 19:33 |
| stinebd | 1. fix camera, 2. ???, 3. PROFIT! | 19:35 |
| coolbtk | unfortunately I wouldn't know where to start working on the camera problem. not much of a low level coder. | 19:37 |
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| coolbtk | can't really help much with the profit either. I've got two kids and a crappy job. | 19:37 |
| coolbtk | any need for testers or anything slightly less technical than reverse engineering/porting code? | 19:39 |
| stinebd | you can stick around on here to see the top sekrit non public testing releases we do occasionally | 19:40 |
| coolbtk | cool. that happens in this IRC channel? | 19:41 |
| F22 | lol | 19:41 |
| stinebd | yes | 19:42 |
| F22 | sshhhh....don't tell anyone. ;) | 19:42 |
| coolbtk | I don't know that I know anyone with a compatible device who is open minded enough to care. | 19:42 |
| coolbtk | lol | 19:43 |
| coolbtk | I know way too many Apple and Microsoft fanboys. | 19:43 |
| stinebd | F22 isn't joking | 19:43 |
| stinebd | last time someone told someone, it resulted in 290GB of transfer in a few days and an overage on my server | 19:44 |
| coolbtk | yikes | 19:44 |
| stinebd | one of the proudest moments of my life | 19:44 |
| coolbtk | I can imagine. Was probably pretty painful as well though. | 19:45 |
| stinebd | nah my provider didn't bill me for it | 19:45 |
| stinebd | cool guys | 19:46 |
| coolbtk | ah. well that's good. | 19:46 |
| coolbtk | I've never actually released anything I've written to the public. Most of my code wasn't mine anymore after I wrote it. What was mine after I wrote wasn't really worth releasing. | 19:47 |
| coolbtk | or never got finished enough to release | 19:48 |
| F22 | wait until gingerbread... ;) | 19:50 |
| stinebd | screw that | 19:51 |
| stinebd | i've stolen an internal testing version of honeycomb | 19:51 |
| F22 | oooh.... | 19:51 |
| coolbtk | :D | 19:52 |
| ftvm | stinebd> hello | 19:54 |
| ftvm | is rootfs it able to fix the problem of sound stuttering? | 19:54 |
| stinebd | no | 19:55 |
| ftvm | ok | 19:55 |
| ftvm | only zImage also ? | 19:55 |
| stinebd | kernel or system image | 19:55 |
| ftvm | ok, yes | 19:55 |
| stinebd | don't know which is the problem | 19:56 |
| ftvm | this seems to cause the battery process | 19:57 |
| ftvm | i kill process battery (28) and the problem has disappear ... | 19:58 |
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| ftvm | stinebd> for the problem of awake ou black screen of the DEATH ? it's rootfs ??? | 20:08 |
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| F22 | stinebd: i'd like to add a new option in startup txt that will cause init to use navi_pad.kl files where the end key is home and long pressing it is recent apps instead of power/end. Do you have any objections to my sending you a patch that does that? | 21:13 |
| F22 | we can keep the default behavior the same so only people who select that option will see it. | 21:14 |
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| XirXes | F22, will that change work on the touch pro 2? I know some of the front panel keys are handled in the micro p driver | 21:20 |
| F22 | works on mine. :D | 21:20 |
| XirXes | ok cool | 21:21 |
| XirXes | i had issues moving around some of the front panel keys without changing them in the microp.kl but the end key wasn't one of them. | 21:21 |
| F22 | yep | 21:22 |
| XirXes | well then I think thats a great idea then | 21:22 |
| F22 | nate's little fork requires more extensive surgery then mine. | 21:22 |
| XirXes | whats his? | 21:23 |
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| r^7z | Dual core??? http://androidandme.com/2010/11/phones/another-trusted-source-confirms-dual-core-samsung-phone/ | 21:23 |
| F22 | http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/tp2-android-development/136169-patch-enables-home-button-support-xdandroid.html | 21:23 |
| r^7z | Why can't they skip all of that and go straight to quad core??? :P | 21:23 |
| F22 | that's Nate's thread. | 21:23 |
| XirXes | r^7z, rumors and speculation | 21:24 |
| F22 | he and i agree that there shouldn't be two power/end buttons, but we differ on which to make home. | 21:24 |
| F22 | he wants to go back to the old way and make the power button home again. | 21:24 |
| XirXes | no way. im with you | 21:24 |
| r^7z | nah... we should make the center key home | 21:24 |
| r^7z | LMAO | 21:24 |
| F22 | lol | 21:24 |
| r^7z | and show all them *itches a whole different light | 21:25 |
| r^7z | ;) | 21:25 |
| XirXes | lol | 21:25 |
| XirXes | if stines zoombar idea ever goes anywhere that would be an option | 21:26 |
| F22 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9215248 <-- that's my thread on the subject in xda. | 21:26 |
| r^7z | blah... they'll still complain even after it's all said and done | 21:27 |
| XirXes | but something should deff be done about it. I think that the zoombar is just decreasing touchscreen accuracy how its set now | 21:27 |
| r^7z | wah! mine donwah! i want mine to teleport! | 21:27 |
| F22 | don't give them ideas r^7z... :P | 21:28 |
| r^7z | stupid enter key has to be right behind my pinky!!! | 21:28 |
| r^7z | or under even | 21:28 |
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| r^7z | wow | 21:28 |
| r^7z | quick drive-by | 21:29 |
| r^7z | does anyone know how to port a theme from one build to another? i think it was mentioned earlier but i've since, forgotten when it was mentioned... imagine that! | 21:30 |
| XirXes | well your poll is hopefully fortelling | 21:30 |
| XirXes | right now your winning | 21:30 |
| F22 | :) | 21:31 |
| r^7z | there should be one for other :D | 21:31 |
| r^7z | lmao | 21:31 |
| F22 | lol | 21:31 |
| XirXes | I LOVE THE OTHER KEY! way better than the any key | 21:31 |
| r^7z | it's catchy... XD | 21:32 |
| F22 | i should probably post a rootfs that people can use as a proof of concept. | 21:32 |
| r^7z | (random user) which key do i hit if i panic? | 21:32 |
| F22 | i can throw in a working symbol key into the deal. :P | 21:32 |
| r^7z | (support) that would be the OTHER key! | 21:32 |
| XirXes | I still wont use it that way. ever since my home key became my home key Im not going back | 21:33 |
| XirXes | plus its sweet having a search key | 21:33 |
| r^7z | ditto | 21:33 |
| F22 | i have envelope mapped as search. | 21:33 |
| r^7z | well idk about search key vs long hold to bring up voice search | 21:33 |
| XirXes | if I long press the search key i get voice search | 21:33 |
| XirXes | ninjad | 21:33 |
| r^7z | i kind of like that idea more better | 21:34 |
| r^7z | :D | 21:34 |
| F22 | of the 4 primary keys i probably use search the least. i mainly use the search widget on my primary screen. | 21:34 |
| r^7z | but i'm just me, a peon in whole mix of things... | 21:34 |
| F22 | if i'm in my keyboard i just press envelope. | 21:34 |
| F22 | but i understand your reasoning. | 21:35 |
| F22 | the 4th button is search in standard android. | 21:35 |
| r^7z | what about the 8th? ;) :P | 21:35 |
| XirXes | I just dont use call keys | 21:35 |
| r^7z | you mean you don't use yourphone as a phone?!?! | 21:36 |
| * r^7z shocked | 21:36 | |
| XirXes | i do | 21:36 |
| XirXes | i just dont do it often | 21:36 |
| XirXes | and theres on screen functions for all that | 21:36 |
| r^7z | blasphemy! | 21:36 |
| F22 | the other possibility is to use end call as call, and move home to the first button, which is standard for android. | 21:37 |
| XirXes | tho hitting menu to get end call is wierd | 21:37 |
| XirXes | but I cant get stine to tell me how to build with the in call touch ui | 21:37 |
| F22 | that would be another interesting arguent, call button vs. search button | 21:37 |
| r^7z | OR we could use power key as power (tap once), end (tap twice), recent apps (tap and hold) ? | 21:38 |
| F22 | arguent=argument | 21:38 |
| XirXes | requires to much work | 21:38 |
| r^7z | but what i wanna argue? | 21:38 |
| * r^7z sighs | 21:38 | |
| XirXes | lol | 21:38 |
| r^7z | i guess so... T_T | 21:38 |
| F22 | only sucky thing is the 210 has the home pic on button 2. | 21:39 |
| r^7z | what is home for most? | 21:39 |
| F22 | all the rest have the windows pic on button 2. | 21:39 |
| r^7z | what button* | 21:39 |
| F22 | the rest don't have a home pic on any of the buttons. | 21:39 |
| r^7z | hmmm... not even my Fuze? | 21:40 |
| XirXes | I would really like to have the in call touch ui. and if i could use it I could edit it to fit on the vga screens aswell | 21:40 |
| F22 | although they may it on a key. | 21:40 |
| F22 | i'm speaking of rhod's. | 21:40 |
| r^7z | ah... | 21:40 |
| XirXes | i just need to be able to test... | 21:40 |
| r^7z | kind of like co0kie's softkeys? | 21:40 |
| r^7z | the bottom row | 21:41 |
| XirXes | some have a home pic next to the end key | 21:41 |
| F22 | top2's? | 21:41 |
| F22 | gah, i'm typo'ing tonight. | 21:41 |
| F22 | tp2's? | 21:42 |
| XirXes | yeah let me see if i can find one for you | 21:42 |
| r^7z | it's a sunday nite... brain knows Monday is commin... :P | 21:42 |
| F22 | lol | 21:42 |
| r^7z | aiet... off to la-la land for me! | 21:44 |
| XirXes | never mind. i must have seen it on some random eu one | 21:44 |
| coolbtk_ | since you're all talking about keymapping... is there a guide/info anywhere on remapping? | 21:44 |
| XirXes | no | 21:45 |
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| XirXes | but if you really want to its all in the rootfs | 21:45 |
| XirXes | init.ect/keymaps | 21:45 |
| coolbtk_ | can that be edited live on the device? | 21:46 |
| XirXes | the rootfs is a ext2 file. | 21:46 |
| XirXes | idk | 21:46 |
| XirXes | it would take a reboot to test deffinitly | 21:47 |
| XirXes | if you foobared it all it would take to fix is replacing your rootfs | 21:48 |
| coolbtk_ | what is it that determines which one is loaded? I noticed there's a whole bunch in there... | 21:48 |
| F22 | google has an online document that goes over keycode maps and key layouts. | 21:48 |
| XirXes | startup.txt | 21:48 |
| coolbtk_ | ah. ok. | 21:48 |
| coolbtk_ | I feel like the current mapping on my device is a bit redundant | 21:49 |
| coolbtk_ | and there are keys i'd like to have for ConnectBot that don't exist currently | 21:50 |
| coolbtk_ | and ther's two buttons on my keyboard that don't do anything as well. | 21:50 |
| coolbtk_ | *there are two | 21:51 |
| XirXes | its too bad we cant make ctrl work | 21:51 |
| Tandyman | Hi JesusFreak316 | 21:51 |
| F22 | making control work would take extensive effort. | 21:51 |
| XirXes | agreed | 21:51 |
| F22 | there is no keycode for it to start. | 21:51 |
| F22 | so we'd have to define one. | 21:51 |
| F22 | and then work our way up from there into the java framework. | 21:52 |
| XirXes | is there any way to run android in usb host mode? | 21:52 |
| XirXes | on any device? | 21:52 |
| XirXes | not restrained to our broken ass devices | 21:52 |
| coolbtk_ | CTRL in ConnectBot, you mean? | 21:52 |
| XirXes | no. ctrl period | 21:52 |
| XirXes | the rhod 210 has that key | 21:53 |
| F22 | yup, it has the key because win mo defines it. | 21:53 |
| XirXes | in winmo it works like it does on the pc | 21:53 |
| coolbtk_ | ah | 21:53 |
| XirXes | its acutally really awesome and its probably one of the bigger things i miss when in android | 21:54 |
| F22 | me too | 21:54 |
| F22 | never thought i'd see a unix/linux without a control key... | 21:54 |
| XirXes | ctrl + arrow keys to jump words, copy and past | 21:54 |
| XirXes | e | 21:54 |
| F22 | damn you google... :P | 21:54 |
| XirXes | ctrl + a deffinitly | 21:55 |
| F22 | doesn't the better terminal emulator use DPAD_CENTER as control? | 21:55 |
| XirXes | i dont know. but thats probably constrained to that environment | 21:55 |
| XirXes | and we dont have that key either lol | 21:56 |
| F22 | no doubt | 21:56 |
| F22 | ah...but DPAD_CENTER is defined... | 21:56 |
| F22 | it's easy to map to your control key. | 21:56 |
| XirXes | oh im sure | 21:56 |
| F22 | i need to download better terminal and see how it works with control as dpad_center. haven't tried it yet. | 21:57 |
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| XirXes | iv gotta go. ttyl | 21:57 |
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| F22 | later. take care. | 21:58 |
| coolbtk | F22, in ConnectBot, the scrollwheel click is CTRL. I don't think that maps to anything in xdandroid though. | 22:00 |
| F22 | if it mapped to anything, i'd think it would be dpad center. think about it... | 22:01 |
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| F22 | dpad is used as a mouse basically | 22:02 |
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| coolbtk | hmm... the latest rootfs and/or zimage are not being very good to me... | 22:04 |
| coolbtk | I've had several random reboots since I upgraded them earlier. I've only ever had a handful of random reboots before. | 22:05 |
| Tandyman | That's no good :P | 22:06 |
| coolbtk | anyway, F22, ConnectBot is really good if you've not used it. The CTRL key is supposed to be scrollwheel click, but if you tap the screen, it pops up a few soft keys, one of which is CTRL | 22:06 |
| coolbtk | that was one of the things i was going to try to remap. I figure having a scrollwheel click is probably a good key to have anyway | 22:07 |
| F22 | amusingly enough, tapping the screen is currently defined as dpad center. | 22:08 |
| F22 | within xdandroid that is, not sure how it is in native android. | 22:09 |
| coolbtk | huh... interesting... | 22:09 |
| F22 | secure shell client, interesting... | 22:10 |
| coolbtk | yeah. It also will connect to local. | 22:11 |
| coolbtk | I sue it to SSH into my desktop mostly, but occasionally for poking around the local | 22:11 |
| coolbtk | *use | 22:11 |
| F22 | understood | 22:12 |
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| coolbtk | I assume I want to edit the .kl file and it compiles to the .bin during boot? | 22:23 |
| F22 | nope | 22:28 |
| F22 | .kl is used as is. | 22:29 |
| F22 | it's the .kcm that gets compiled to .kcm.bin | 22:29 |
| coolbtk | oh. ok. And I'm a bit confused as to which .kl files are the correct ones to edit... | 22:29 |
| F22 | whichever ones correspond to your handset | 22:30 |
| coolbtk | my startup.txt says physkeyboard=fuze | 22:30 |
| F22 | ok, then yours are the fuze ones. | 22:30 |
| coolbtk | right. i figure that fuze_microp-keypad.kl is the keyboard | 22:30 |
| F22 | if you want to see their exact names you can open up the init file and take a look at what it's assigning based on that command line parameter. | 22:31 |
| coolbtk | is fuze_raph_navi_pad.kl the correct file for the capacative buttons? | 22:31 |
| coolbtk | or, nav buttons, i mean... | 22:31 |
| F22 | look up google's online android keymap document. it will explain. | 22:32 |
| coolbtk | ah. alright. thanks | 22:32 |
| F22 | np | 22:32 |
| arrrghhh | alrighty got some logs finally from the crash. just gotta prune 'em. | 22:35 |
| arrrghhh | oh and F22 to make it even more complicated, some rhods have a home symbol on the end key. certain rhod100's. | 22:37 |
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| JesusFreak316 | Let's try this one more time, maybe we'll both be here. :P Hey Tandyman. | 22:43 |
| * Tandyman tips hat | 22:43 | |
| Tandyman | How do | 22:43 |
| *** Tandyman is now known as Tandyman100 | 22:43 | |
| * Tandyman100 taps JesusFreak316 on the shoulder | 22:46 | |
| JesusFreak316 | Yay! | 22:47 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yay! | 22:47 |
| Tandyman100 | Yay! | 22:47 |
| Tandyman100 | Yay! | 22:47 |
| Tandyman100 | Why are we doing this? | 22:47 |
| * JesusFreak316 is not happy though because he had to come home from a bonfire to do school. | 22:47 | |
| JesusFreak316 | I didn't mean to do it twice. | 22:47 |
| Tandyman100 | Same. Except home from yout group | 22:47 |
| Tandyman100 | youth* | 22:47 |
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| JesusFreak316 | I didn't mean to do it twice. | 22:48 |
| JesusFreak316 | :P | 22:48 |
| Tandyman100 | haha | 22:48 |
| JesusFreak316 | :P | 22:48 |
| Tandyman100 | haha | 22:48 |
| Tandyman100 | oops | 22:48 |
| JesusFreak316 | Ok, enough OT. | 22:48 |
| Tandyman100 | So what's up? | 22:48 |
| JesusFreak316 | As far as my phone goes, not much, missing my HD2 and counting the days 'til Christmas. | 22:48 |
| Tandyman100 | I can't believe you got rid of an HD2 :( | 22:49 |
| Tandyman100 | I would kill for an HD2 right now | 22:49 |
| JesusFreak316 | Nah, I still have it but put it away 'til Christmas. | 22:49 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, signal 7 (SIGBUS), fault addr 00000000 - does this mean JIT is still enabled? | 22:49 |
| JesusFreak316 | Is JIT enabled a bad thing? | 22:50 |
| arrrghhh | well | 22:56 |
| arrrghhh | evidently for tracing his error it is. | 22:56 |
| JesusFreak316 | Ah. | 22:56 |
| arrrghhh | stine made it sound like it obstrufcates the error. | 22:56 |
| JesusFreak316 | Ooh, good word. | 22:56 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 22:56 |
| Tandyman100 | haha | 22:56 |
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