Saturday, 2010-11-06

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reukiodo	noob question what's the main difference between xdandroid and htc-linux ?	03:54
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kalemas	sorry	06:32
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suhas_sm	hi any one here ?	07:54
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suhas_sm	hey	08:13
suhas_sm	Ashar u there ?	08:13
Ashar	hi	08:13
suhas_sm	Which country you are from ?	08:13
Ashar	currently in pakistan	08:13
suhas_sm	ok	08:13
suhas_sm	and where else do u reside ?	08:13
Ashar	states	08:13
suhas_sm	ahh ok	08:14
suhas_sm	how can i get desire HD in states ?	08:14
F22	t-mobile is the only carrier that has picked up the desire hd so far.	08:15
F22	under the name mytouch 4G	08:15
Ashar	yeah, or the g2 which is a desire z	08:16
F22	yup, although it's been leaked that verizon will eventually be getting its own version of the desire z too.	08:17
F22	sprint's EVO is like a desire HD prototype on the other hand with its older chip.	08:19
suhas_sm	I want desire HD not a variant	08:38
suhas_sm	So that i use it in India also	08:38
suhas_sm	I want it bcos its sim free	08:38
F22	well none of the US carriers are currently selling htc's desire hd design. t-mobile's mytouch4g is an hd shrunk down to 3.8 inches instead of 4.3 inches.	08:55
suhas_sm	So there is no way to get it here ?	08:57
F22	you could use an unlocked version with either tmobile or at&t, but it wouldn't have the bands needed for 3G with either of them.	08:57
suhas_sm	I would like to have desire HD only..	08:58
suhas_sm	:(	08:58
suhas_sm	else nexus S/2	08:58
suhas_sm	:P	08:58
F22	you could buy one easily enough if you were willing to forego the carrier subsidy and are willing to live without 3G in the US.	08:58
suhas_sm	yeah	08:58
suhas_sm	whats the cost ? 600USD or more /	08:59
suhas_sm	f22 u there /.	09:04
F22	something like that. it's still hard to get in the us.	09:04
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F22	amazon us doesn't yet have it, and amazon uk won't ship it to the us. (just checked)	09:05
F22	there are places you can still get it from, but they're rather pricey.	09:06
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F22	i'm seeing it for between $549 and $900.	09:09
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TheDeadCPU	What	09:09
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F22	Desire HD	09:09
F22	suhas_sm asked.	09:10
F22	unlocked version in the US.	09:10
TheDeadCPU	Ah, well. It's like $600 here. (though the dollar is very weak compared to the Norwegian Krone)	09:11
TheDeadCPU	Unlocked :p	09:11
suhas_sm	hmm	09:11
suhas_sm	but isnt desire HD already unlocked/sim free ?	09:11
TheDeadCPU	It should be	09:11
TheDeadCPU	Also, I'd sugest checking eBay from UK and see. They might be cheaper there	09:12
suhas_sm	will they ship ??	09:12
TheDeadCPU	If you check eBay it'll say if it ships to the US	09:12
TheDeadCPU	And yes. It shoul AFAIK	09:12
suhas_sm	hmm	09:13
suhas_sm	the ones on ebay are brand new box packed right ?	09:14
TheDeadCPU	Most of them	09:14
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TheDeadCPU	Though.. You should check the seller reviews	09:15
suhas_sm	hmm	09:15
TheDeadCPU	I now see the dollar is just weak in general.. Might be cheaper to get in the States.	09:16
suhas_sm	in Clove its 399 UK pound + vat	09:17
F22	heh, yes, it is unlocked of course. it's just that 99% of the phones in the US are locked, so unlocked phones are something of a novelty and thus of note here,.	09:21
suhas_sm	hmm	09:22
suhas_sm	wish I could it get it over the counter in here itself.	09:23
suhas_sm	but i ll be waiting for nexus s	09:23
suhas_sm	will decide only after a couple of weeks	09:23
F22	DeadCPU: You're in Norway?	09:32
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F22	heh, your domain is definitely Norwegian.	09:36
suhas_sm	hmm	09:37
suhas_sm	by guys how much of battery life should i expect in diamond when using xdandroid ?	09:38
suhas_sm	btw*	09:38
F22	TheDeadCPU: I'm working on adding some additional characters to the keymap for the Norwegian rhodium. Thus if you happen to have the Nordic rhodium 100, I'd be interested in asking you a few questions about its keyboard.	09:39
F22	not sure suhas. don't have a diamond.	09:40
suhas_sm	ok	09:40
suhas_sm	i have that dumb phone right now	09:40
suhas_sm	lol	09:40
suhas_sm	from 2 years :P	09:40
TheDeadCPU	F22, I have one. But a friend of mine is lending it. I'm getting it back when he gets the Desire Z.	09:41
TheDeadCPU	So that's 14 days : /	09:41
suhas_sm	dying to get a new android phone	09:41
TheDeadCPU	Anyways, F22 are you Norwegian?	09:41
suhas_sm	want nexus s or dhd	09:41
TheDeadCPU	There wont be a Nexus S.	09:42
TheDeadCPU	Samsung said no.	09:42
suhas_sm	damn	09:42
suhas_sm	i refuse to believe that article	09:42
suhas_sm	i reead it in some blog	09:42
TheDeadCPU	Google has said that there wont be a new "Nexus" they're killing the Nexus name they said	09:43
TheDeadCPU	Though there will be a new Google phone.	09:43
suhas_sm	there obviously has be some flagship model for gingerbread	09:43
F22	nope, but i figured as long as I was adding keys to the rhodium 210, i might as well also do it for the others that we have source files. But alas, I've never seen the Norwegian keyboard let alone touched one, so that kind of limits what i can do by myself for it.	09:43
suhas_sm	when it is gonna be ?	09:43
TheDeadCPU	I'm hoping a Desire Z with 1.2GHz snapdragon and 786MB ram	09:43
suhas_sm	z ?	09:43
suhas_sm	its 800mhz	09:44
TheDeadCPU	The Keyboard one	09:44
suhas_sm	512Mb ram i guess	09:44
TheDeadCPU	I said I hoped for a Desire Z with those specs as the "Nexus Two"	09:44
suhas_sm	oh ok	09:44
TheDeadCPU	F22, true	09:44
suhas_sm	but desire can be overclocked safely to 1.4 i guess ?	09:45
TheDeadCPU	Yes.	09:45
suhas_sm	atleast 1.2 should be pretty safe	09:45
TheDeadCPU	I hate my dad. He has the Desire Z already	09:45
suhas_sm	waah	09:45
TheDeadCPU	Though not the norwegian one	09:45
suhas_sm	hmm	09:45
suhas_sm	and u ?	09:45
TheDeadCPU	suhas_sm, Well. It's an underclocked 1.2Ghz	09:45
TheDeadCPU	No. I'm waiting for the one with Norwegian Characters on the Keyboard	09:46
suhas_sm	oh I see	09:46
F22	there are some unusual things about the norwegian version of the rhodium keyboard map that currently exists, for example, there are two "/" keys.	09:46
TheDeadCPU	There is?	09:47
TheDeadCPU	Hmm	09:47
suhas_sm	lol	09:47
F22	fn-7 and fn-y are both mapped to "/"	09:47
suhas_sm	one each for http://	09:47
suhas_sm	:P	09:47
TheDeadCPU	lol	09:48
F22	on several of the other phones, fn-y is mapped to "\|"	09:48
F22	er whoops, no, fn-j, not fn-y	09:49
F22	it's fn-7 and fn-j	09:49
TheDeadCPU	Ah	09:50
TheDeadCPU	But I thought the Norwegian Touch Pro 2 Was the same as the Swedish and Danish oO	09:50
F22	the keymap is the same.	09:50
F22	at least the keymap that we're using for xdandroid.	09:50
F22	so i'm curious if there is a reason why there are two mappings for "/"?	09:51
TheDeadCPU	I'm looking into it	09:52
F22	and yes, 'Rhod 100 Nordic' covers the Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, and Finnish variants.	09:54
TheDeadCPU	fn-7 has / fn-j has \	09:56
TheDeadCPU	Here is a nice picture for you	09:56
TheDeadCPU	http://mobilen.no/photoalbum/view4/L3Rvb2xzL3Bob3RvYWxidW1fdmlldy9jdXN0b21lci9pbWcvMjk5NC9tZWRpdW0vMjk5NDY4LmpwZy9Dcm9wLz94PTAmeT0wJndpZHRoPTUxMiZoZWlnaHQ9Mjg4	09:56
F22	heheheh...so there is a typo in the existing keymap.	09:57
F22	J 'J' '5' 'j' 'J' '/' '/'	09:57
F22	those should be backslashes in the last two columns.	09:58
TheDeadCPU	Yup	09:59
F22	cool, thanks for the pic.	09:59
TheDeadCPU	np	10:02
F22	Basically I want to add some new characters.... fn-a s z x , q and t as { } [ ] < ` and ~ respectively.	10:02
TheDeadCPU	Nice	10:02
TheDeadCPU	I think �� should be in place	10:03
F22	???	10:03
F22	you already have fn-. as >	10:04
TheDeadCPU	The 3 norwegian characters �, � and � should be correct if I remember.	10:04
F22	ahhh...that's interesting, those characters are appearing as question marks on my screen. i wonder if there is a norwegian language pack for this chat program.	10:05
F22	in the keymap, norwegian characters that don't exist in English have UTF-8 hex codes listed for them.	10:07
TheDeadCPU	Ah ok.	10:10
TheDeadCPU	They are ASCII characters so..	10:10
F22	yes, the American keymaps strangely enough had 0x27 in place of '	10:12
TheDeadCPU	hmm	10:12
F22	0x27 is ascii code for '	10:13
TheDeadCPU	Ah cool.	10:13
F22	but why they used 0x27 instead of ' .....	10:13
F22	shrug	10:13
F22	there are 7 characters for which hex codes are given instead of the characters themselves on the nordic keymap. two of those are monetary symbols like the euro that have previously been added to the american keymaps as well.	10:17
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TheDeadCPU_	(That's the HEX for a Norwegian letter.)	10:18
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TheDeadCPU	F22, did you get the 0xE6 question?	10:18
F22	no	10:19
F22	resend please	10:19
TheDeadCPU	<TheDeadCPU> is there a 0xE6 in the keymap file	10:20
F22	yes there is. it's fn-k	10:20
F22	K 'K' '5' 'k' 'K' 0xE60xC6	10:21
TheDeadCPU	Nice.	10:22
F22	fn-k is the next to last column, the last column is fn-K	10:22
TheDeadCPU	Then there is Norwegian characters on that keymap :p	10:22
F22	oh, i didn't doubt that the hex codes were mostly Norwegian characters. I just had no way of checking them until you sent me that pic. :P	10:23
TheDeadCPU	:p	10:24
F22	I 'I' '4' 'i' 'I' 0xE5 0xC5	10:24
F22	L 'L' '5' 'l' 'L' 0XF8 0xD8	10:25
F22	O 'O' '6' 'o' 'O' 0xE4 0xC4	10:25
F22	P 'P' '7' 'p' 'P' 0xF6 0xD6	10:25
F22	then there are the two that were ported to the American keyboards...	10:26
F22	E 'E' '3' 'e' 'E' 0x20ac0x20ac	10:26
F22	W 'W' '9' 'w' 'W' 0xa30xa3	10:26
F22	everything else has the actual character listed instead of a hex code.	10:27
TheDeadCPU	ok.	10:27
TheDeadCPU	I'll look over those and see if it's correct	10:27
TheDeadCPU	Yup. Seems fine	10:28
F22	the 210 & 400 have already had fn-y mapped to \|	10:30
TheDeadCPU	hmm	10:30
F22	can't add that to the nordic 100 because of the *	10:30
F22	so where do you think it should go?	10:30
F22	the \| character that is.	10:31
TheDeadCPU	Well. The \| isn't on the Nordic keyboard.	10:32
F22	it isn't on any of the keyboards.	10:33
TheDeadCPU	But IMO it should be on Q	10:33
TheDeadCPU	As that is whats most close to the actual Norwegian PC keyboards	10:33
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TheDeadCPU	The \| has it's own button actually. Don't know why lol	10:33
F22	someone at some point shoehorned it onto the keymaps for the 210 and 400 because it's useful at a linux shell prompt.	10:34
F22	then i'd have to move the single backward leaning quote elsewhere.	10:35
F22	the single backward leaning quote is a key that i'm adding, so nobody will complain if it's elsewhere. it just seemed like q was the sensible place to put that one too however.	10:36
F22	although fn-q for one, and fn-Q for the other is also a possibility. that's something i've stayed away from on the American keyboards because none of the other characters on their keymaps make a distinction based on whether or not the caps key has also been pressed when pressing fn.	10:40
F22	they always produce the same character for both.	10:40
F22	the norwegian keymap is different. it does have different mappings for fn depending on whether shift is also pressed.	10:41
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F22	so does fn-q for ` and fn-Q for \| sound good to you? Or should they each get their own key?	10:43
F22	r, d and f are still unused.	10:44
XirXes	my votes for own key	10:48
TheDeadCPU	own key	10:48
F22	Xirxes do you use the Nordic keyboard also?	10:49
XirXes	no i have a tmous rhod. 210	10:49
F22	ah, that's what i have.	10:49
XirXes	its nice not having to take off the batter cover to get to the sd	10:50
TheDeadCPU	AFAIK it's only 1 person here that could. That would be cazh_ but he has a Diamond and a Galaxy S soo :p	10:50
TheDeadCPU	XirXes, Umm.. Aren't all Rhodiums like that?	10:50
XirXes	nope. just the t-mobile ones	10:51
TheDeadCPU	The European ones are like tat.	10:51
TheDeadCPU	That*	10:51
TheDeadCPU	I think the AT&T one too	10:51
XirXes	all the other ones have battery covers like the g1.	10:51
XirXes	really. from what ive seen the 210 is the only one with the sd door. but i could be wrong	10:52
F22	TheDeadCPU: so which would you prefer as fn-q then? ` or \| ? And where should the other one go?	10:52
TheDeadCPU	fn-q for \|	10:53
F22	ok	10:53
F22	and for ` ?	10:53
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F22	Xirxes, 210 already has \| as fn-y	10:54
TheDeadCPU	Hmm.. Maybe fn-f as that is on the side of the	10:54
TheDeadCPU	side of the '	10:54
F22	i'm adding ` to 210, 400 & 500 as fn-q	10:54
F22	or alt-q in the case of the 210 keyboard, but in the android keymap which i think you've already looked at when you fixed the dpads, it's still fn.	10:56
TheDeadCPU	True.	10:56
suhas_sm	U know anyone from USA here ??/	10:57
F22	well f is available	10:57
F22	so that works	10:57
F22	for the nordic	10:57
TheDeadCPU	Yes.	10:58
TheDeadCPU	I kinda like it. Seeing as the ' is on G	10:58
F22	excellent	10:58
F22	works out beautifully then. :)	10:59
TheDeadCPU	:)	10:59
suhas_sm	T_T	11:02
suhas_sm	what would u guys suggest me ?	11:03
suhas_sm	I want something that sim free	11:03
TheDeadCPU	for what?	11:03
TheDeadCPU	A phone?	11:03
suhas_sm	so that i could use it in India also	11:03
suhas_sm	yeah	11:03
suhas_sm	now that u say DHD is nt in USA	11:03
suhas_sm	:(	11:03
TheDeadCPU	I'd say get the G2 / Desire Z	11:04
TheDeadCPU	What carrier do you have? AT&T?	11:04
suhas_sm	even desire Z is not available	11:04
TheDeadCPU	It is.	11:04
suhas_sm	Cincinnati Bell	11:04
suhas_sm	Anyways I wont be using it here	11:04
suhas_sm	i already have a X10 provided by my company	11:04
TheDeadCPU	Well. There is a Desire Z for AT&T / T-Mobile 3G bands	11:05
suhas_sm	g2 ?	11:05
TheDeadCPU	No. Desire Z	11:05
suhas_sm	hmm	11:05
TheDeadCPU	http://negrielectronics.com/htc-desire-z-850-1900-3g-unlocked.html	11:05
suhas_sm	Hmm	11:06
suhas_sm	or else I ll buy a normal desire and w8 for nexus 2	11:06
F22	# v1.1 Change Log for Rhod100 Nordic	11:19
F22	# - moved <tab> from fn-, to fn-<space>	11:19
F22	# - added { } [ ] < and ~ as fn-a s z x , and t respectively	11:19
F22	# - added \ as fn-j (was incorrectly mapped as / previously,	11:19
F22	# use fn-7 for / instead )	11:19
F22	# - added ' and \| as fn-f and q respectively	11:19
F22	TheDeadCPU: How's that look to you?	11:19
TheDeadCPU	Looks good.	11:20
TheDeadCPU	You sohuld post it in the Rhodium XDAndroid thread too.	11:20
F22	yes, i probably should. i need to generate a test rootfs image for people to try out.	11:23
F22	it will be for the 210, 400, 500 and 100 Nordic. Don't have the sources for the others unfortunately.	11:23
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F22	For those interested, I've uploaded a new rootfs.img containing additional keys in the keymaps for the Rhod 100 Nordic, 210, 400 & 500 . I'd like to get feedback from at least one user of each. The image may be found at: http://www.mediafire.com/?6q647uytuzf6sof	12:12
arrrghhh	hrm.	12:13
arrrghhh	want to blow up our phones before you commit it & blow everyone's up?	12:13
arrrghhh	:P	12:13
F22	yup :D	12:13
F22	actually, i've already tested it on my 210.	12:14
F22	but i don't have the other 3 models, so i'll have to rely on others to test them.	12:14
arrrghhh	bah	12:16
F22	the 400, which if i recall correctly you have, was actually the easiest to do.	12:16
arrrghhh	lol	12:16
arrrghhh	yea i have a 400	12:16
F22	# v1.1 (RHOD400) 2010/11/06 - F22 <f22.xda AT gmail DOT com>	12:17
F22	# - moved <tab> from fn-, to fn-space	12:17
F22	# - added { } [ ] < ` and ~ as fn-a s z , x and q respectively	12:17
F22	# - substituted ''' in place of 0x27 for easier reading	12:17
F22	that's the list of changes for your model	12:17
arrrghhh	hrm	12:18
arrrghhh	i wonder... can we have a seearch button?	12:19
arrrghhh	on the kbd?	12:19
F22	everything i changed in the 400, i've also changed in the 210. the only difference is that in the 210 i also added > in.	12:19
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arrrghhh	like fn + <-	12:19
F22	i could look into the possibility of adding a search button. i think it's already in the raph keymaps if i'm not mistaken.	12:21
arrrghhh	i can't BELIEVE there's people charging others to install android	12:22
arrrghhh	this dude's saying he's charged $50 to like 100+ people. what an ASS	12:22
F22	sad...	12:22
arrrghhh	i'm pissed.	12:22
arrrghhh	maybe if he donated every penny back	12:22
arrrghhh	but 'he's saving for a car'	12:23
F22	rofl	12:23
arrrghhh	ugh.	12:23
arrrghhh	i hate people.	12:23
F22	hm...no...it's the euro model rhod 100's that have envelope set as search.	12:26
arrrghhh	well there is a hard key for the envelope	12:27
arrrghhh	i guess that would work too	12:27
arrrghhh	is that possible tho?	12:27
arrrghhh	it would make using the phone SO much better if we had a key dedicated to search.	12:27
F22	unfortunately the euro rhod's that have the envelope being mapped to search notes in their keyboard layout files are all ones that are missing keymap source files.	12:30
F22	i'll have to dig through some docs it looks like.	12:30
arrrghhh	hrm.	12:31
arrrghhh	maybe stinebd can help whenever he's bak.	12:31
F22	is he away?	12:32
arrrghhh	ja	12:33
arrrghhh	he's shaded = away...	12:33
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arrrghhh	i'll bbl. hopefully you find something on the search button :D i'll test your rootfs too.	12:42
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F22	arrrghhh: (assuming you'll read the log when you return) thanks. hmm...i've run out of time for this morning. i'll do some more digging when i get back later. it looks i will have to hold off on posting to xda until later as well.	12:51
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arrrghhh	F22, what's the keymap again?	13:36
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JesusFreak316	You guys see all the wifi issues cropping up?	13:57
arrrghhhTP2	Yea	13:59
arrrghhhTP2	Who uses wifi tho	13:59
JesusFreak316	Me...	13:59
arrrghhhTP2	:P	13:59
JesusFreak316	:(	13:59
arrrghhhTP2	Get a data plan hippie!	13:59
JesusFreak316	Eventually.	14:00
JesusFreak316	Not everyone has the posh plan that you do.	14:00
arrrghhhTP2	My plan costs as much as most data plans lol	14:00
arrrghhhTP2	:P	14:00
JesusFreak316	I know.	14:00
arrrghhhTP2	Is wifi not workin for you too?	14:00
JesusFreak316	Yeah.	14:00
arrrghhhTP2	Hrm	14:00
arrrghhhTP2	Tried all the normal stuff?	14:01
JesusFreak316	It will say error. Restarting via crash system server in dev tools fixes it though.	14:01
JesusFreak316	As in delete data.img, update stuff etc? No, lol.	14:01
arrrghhhTP2	huh. Well at least you found a fix	14:01
arrrghhhTP2	Yea c'mon	14:01
JesusFreak316	Fixes it temporarily.	14:01
arrrghhhTP2	Due diligence!	14:01
JesusFreak316	I have sooo many installed apps restoring with the free version of titanium backup takes FOREVER.	14:02
arrrghhhTP2	Lol	14:02
JesusFreak316	I guess I could just backup my data.img.	14:02
arrrghhhTP2	Donate to 'em them.	14:02
arrrghhhTP2	Then*	14:02
JesusFreak316	R^72 said that doesn't help anyways.	14:02
* JesusFreak316 is stingy.		14:02
arrrghhhTP2	...?	14:02
JesusFreak316	deleting data.img	14:02
arrrghhhTP2	Well I could've told you that	14:03
arrrghhhTP2	What about updating?	14:03
arrrghhhTP2	Or downgrading? Can you pinpoint where it fails?	14:03
JesusFreak316	I don't think there are any updates. Let me check.	14:03
arrrghhhTP2	K	14:03
arrrghhhTP2	11/3 was the last update afaik	14:04
JesusFreak316	No new kernel since the 3rd.	14:04
JesusFreak316	Same for rootfs. I have both.	14:04
arrrghhhTP2	Kk	14:04
arrrghhhTP2	So when did it break?	14:04
JesusFreak316	I just updated yesterday and I noticed it last night. Supposedly you can connect to one wifi network but turning off wifi then reenabling it causes an error. Let me check.	14:05
arrrghhhTP2	K	14:05
JesusFreak316	Ok, just reconnected for me.	14:06
JesusFreak316	Hmm, let me check the thread again.	14:06
arrrghhhTP2	LIES	14:06
arrrghhhTP2	Lol ok	14:06
JesusFreak316	You see the post about OC by a new guy? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9025914&postcount=3334	14:08
JesusFreak316	Opinion?	14:08
JesusFreak316	Captain Throwback has the same issue, btw.	14:08
arrrghhhTP2	Yea	14:09
JesusFreak316	He's somewhat dependable. ;)	14:09
arrrghhhTP2	I agree with it mostly. OC just causes instability	14:09
arrrghhhTP2	But he's using a funky setup	14:09
arrrghhhTP2	I responded to his post	14:09
arrrghhhTP2	Anyhoo g2g	14:09
JesusFreak316	CT or the OC guy?	14:09
JesusFreak316	See ya.	14:09
arrrghhhTP2	The oc guy	14:10
JesusFreak316	Ah.	14:10
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arrrghhh	F22, all changes seem good.	14:31
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TheDeadCPU	lol	14:39
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Jake\|E5400	Hey, I have a couple questions:	14:47
JesusFreak316	Yes?	14:47
Jake\|E5400	First, when I boot XDAndroid 2.2 on my CDMA TP, the time is perfect, but when I reboot into WinMo 6.5.3, the clock is off by a random amount of hours	14:47
Jake\|E5400	but then if I go back into android, the clock is perfect.	14:47
JesusFreak316	Winmo clock or android clock is off?	14:48
Jake\|E5400	Winmo clock	14:48
Jake\|E5400	And hi jesusfreak, love your work ;)	14:48
JesusFreak316	hmm, I don't know about that.	14:48
JesusFreak316	My work? Hope you're not confusing my with JesusFreke from the G1 scene. I had this name before I ever heard of him.	14:48
Jake\|E5400	oop, you're probably right...	14:49
JesusFreak316	Sorry to disappoint. :0	14:49
JesusFreak316	:0	14:49
JesusFreak316	:)	14:49
Jake\|E5400	;)	14:49
JesusFreak316	Finally stupid thing.	14:49
Jake\|E5400	Is there a way to get Sense on xdandroid?	14:49
JesusFreak316	Not unless you can live with really REALLY slow performance.	14:50
JesusFreak316	There's a 2.1 Sense build but it's just not worth it.	14:50
Jake\|E5400	Yeah I sorta figured... android is sluggish enough on my Touch Pro :)	14:50
Jake\|E5400	Really? Link please?	14:50
Jake\|E5400	I'm just expiramenting with this :D	14:50
arrrghhh	clock can be fixed	14:50
arrrghhh	in winmo	14:50
Jake\|E5400	Orly?	14:50
arrrghhh	you have to set your time to use network time.	14:50
arrrghhh	winmo is stupid and uses local timezones	14:51
arrrghhh	basically every other system uses UTC and then works backwards to your time.	14:51
* JesusFreak316 has no phone service. :)		14:51
Jake\|E5400	Niether do i :/	14:51
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JesusFreak316	Is there a wifi sync like clocksync in Android?	14:51
arrrghhh	then just use android. lol no winmo.	14:51
arrrghhh	i'm sure there is.	14:51
arrrghhh	some atomic clock app	14:51
JesusFreak316	Must be.	14:51
arrrghhh	you can't do that in winmo?	14:52
Jake\|E5400	I have no idea, and I love my EnergyROM ^_^	14:52
arrrghhh	the clock can't be set on wifi...?	14:52
JesusFreak316	What phone Jake?	14:52
arrrghhh	TP	14:52
arrrghhh	raph something	14:52
Jake\|E5400	HTC Touch Pro with sprint and the latest build of energyROM	14:52
JesusFreak316	http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=641021	14:52
Jake\|E5400	Raph800	14:52
arrrghhh	raph800	14:52
arrrghhh	:P	14:52
JesusFreak316	arrrghhh, ninja'd.	14:52
arrrghhh	not on my phone anymore	14:52
arrrghhh	oops he's still here tho.	14:52
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Jake\|E5400	haha, I looked at the TP2. It's pretty much the same as the TP but thinner and with a bigger screen...	14:53
JesusFreak316	What irc you use on your phone arrrghhh?	14:53
Jake\|E5400	zsirc	14:53
Jake\|E5400	oh, arrrghhh	14:53
JesusFreak316	And a REALLY nice keyboard.	14:53
JesusFreak316	I use zsirc too btw.	14:53
* Jake\|E5400 zsirc brofist		14:54
arrrghhh	andchat	14:54
arrrghhh	haven't tried zsirc...	14:54
JesusFreak316	what about in winmo?	14:54
arrrghhh	don't.	14:54
Jake\|E5400	I use a combo of zsirc, palringo, and skype	14:54
arrrghhh	i use winmo for calls	14:54
JesusFreak316	I thought you don't really use android except when testing.	14:54
* JesusFreak316 confused.		14:54
arrrghhh	and to wake me in the morning.	14:54
Jake\|E5400	erm, those are on winmo, but aren't there android versions?	14:54
arrrghhh	sometimes i browse the web on it and look at the pretty weather.	14:54
Jake\|E5400	lol	14:55
Jake\|E5400	gotta love dat pretty weather	14:55
JesusFreak316	andchat is a really good android irc chat.	14:55
arrrghhh	i don't use winmo for much TBH	14:55
arrrghhh	i <3 andchat	14:55
Jake\|E5400	Right now I'm just playing with XDAndroid, but when i upgrade from a 4GB card to a 16GB card I'll probably make it and Debian a permanant fixture	14:55
arrrghhh	ha	14:56
JesusFreak316	But you were just saying recently that you can't use android much because calls don't work. How can you use android if no one can hear you when they call you?	14:56
arrrghhh	debian on a phone, that's hilarious. don't know why... :P	14:56
arrrghhh	JesusFreak316, calls work	14:56
JesusFreak316	phh likes it.	14:56
arrrghhh	they just reset the phone constantly.	14:56
JesusFreak316	Oh.	14:56
arrrghhh	well that's phh - he's special.	14:56
arrrghhh	i avoid calls like the plague in android	14:56
Jake\|E5400	Debian on a phone is pwnage	14:57
arrrghhh	if someone calls me, i just hope&pray the call is OK.	14:57
Jake\|E5400	package manager FTW	14:57
arrrghhh	lol	14:57
arrrghhh	i have it on my server	14:57
JesusFreak316	Jake, you got debian on your tp? I thought that only worked for rhodium. I use ubuntu on it.	14:57
arrrghhh	quite handy there.	14:57
arrrghhh	ubuntu is debian	14:57
arrrghhh	basically.	14:57
Jake\|E5400	I'm going to TRY putting it on my TP once I get a 16gb card	14:57
Jake\|E5400	I have debian on my server as well :)	14:57
Jake\|E5400	http://retro-box.net if anyone cares :P	14:57
arrrghhh	ubuntu does a big pull of debian every upgrade.	14:57
Jake\|E5400	Ubuntu is a bit... bloated	14:58
arrrghhh	yea	14:58
arrrghhh	but it's debian :P	14:58
JesusFreak316	arrrghhh: I know but anything newer than 9.04 Ubuntu requires armv7 and debian still supports armv6 on its newest builds.	14:58
Jake\|E5400	I would use android permanently if it wasn't so javaids-dependent	14:58
arrrghhh	k	14:58
arrrghhh	eh, the interface is why i use it.	14:58
JesusFreak316	That's why meego sounds awesome.	14:58
arrrghhh	and the apps :D	14:58
arrrghhh	meego does look interesting... i just don't think our hardware will be able to handle it.	14:58
Jake\|E5400	yeah, meego is awesome, I'm praying for a TP port	14:59
arrrghhh	at least not well.	14:59
Jake\|E5400	yeah	14:59
arrrghhh	i'm surprised our hardware handles android as well as it does TBH	14:59
Jake\|E5400	I wish the Maemo 5 interface was installable on 'regular' debian systems	14:59
Jake\|E5400	then we could have maemo 5 on our HTC devices!!!	14:59
JesusFreak316	Probably not. I asked them and they said it's heavily dependent on opengl es2.0	14:59
Jake\|E5400	hmmm	14:59
JesusFreak316	That's partly why I'm looking into an HD2 for Christmas.	14:59
arrrghhh	yup. which makes it a non-starter for our crappy hardware :P	15:00
arrrghhh	i can't handle the lack of a kbd	15:00
arrrghhh	but you're not going to use it as a phone	15:00
JesusFreak316	You said that already.	15:00
JesusFreak316	:)	15:00
arrrghhh	perhaps in that capacity would be fine.	15:00
Jake\|E5400	I love my crappy hardware :(	15:00
arrrghhh	yea and i'm giong to say it 100x more too :P	15:00
JesusFreak316	I'm gonna find some way to mod a slider onto it. :D	15:00
* Jake\|E5400 <3 his i760		15:00
JesusFreak316	You have one too?!!	15:00
Jake\|E5400	I wish Android ran on my i760	15:00
Jake\|E5400	yeah	15:00
JesusFreak316	I got that a while back when that was one of the best phones that Verizon didn't require a data plan on.	15:01
Jake\|E5400	Yeah, it's awesome. Better slider than the touch pro, but I hated the squishy touchscreen	15:01
JesusFreak316	By the time I got around to activating it they changed the rule to ALL phones requiring data. :(	15:01
Jake\|E5400	:/	15:01
JesusFreak316	That thing is solidly built.	15:02
arrrghhh	i don't think the tp2's kbd can be beat tho :D	15:02
Jake\|E5400	I haven't activated any of my phones since I'm a teenager without a job ^_^	15:02
arrrghhh	build quality is fan-freakin-tastic.	15:02
Jake\|E5400	yeah	15:02
JesusFreak316	I miss custom roms on it though.	15:02
Jake\|E5400	I don't think anyone's found a method to flash them...	15:02
JesusFreak316	Jake, you and me are waaaay too similar with phones.	15:02
Jake\|E5400	and the charger/usb/weird port on the bottom was... annoying	15:02
JesusFreak316	There's just no interest in those phones anymore.	15:02
Jake\|E5400	haha, thx I think	15:02
Jake\|E5400	Jesus loves me this I know...	15:03
* Jake\|E5400 ducks		15:03
JesusFreak316	Hohoho pun.	15:03
JesusFreak316	:)	15:03
Jake\|E5400	I'm groaning at myself right now.	15:03
Jake\|E5400	But yeah, the i760 was an awesome device.	15:03
JesusFreak316	It's my dedicated Pandora streamer atm. :)	15:04
Jake\|E5400	I used it for music playing, mostly. Like an ipod touch (eww)	15:04
Jake\|E5400	Just stored my music on a 4gb microsd and off I go. The Opera Mini web browsing was the icing on the cake :)	15:04
JesusFreak316	How'd you get Debian working on your TP? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8186181&postcount=1208 says the calibration is only set for TP2.	15:05
Jake\|E5400	I haven't got it working	15:05
Jake\|E5400	no space on my SD card	15:05
JesusFreak316	Silly.	15:05
Jake\|E5400	but in the RHObuntu TP thread, it says that debian works...	15:05
JesusFreak316	My thread?	15:05
Jake\|E5400	I only have 200MB free on my card :P	15:06
JesusFreak316	Whoops. ;)	15:06
Jake\|E5400	Your thread?	15:06
JesusFreak316	http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=635770	15:07
JesusFreak316	That's the only Rhobuntu Tp thread I know of. The main one is for tp2.	15:07
Jake\|E5400	Ah, so THAT's where I've seen your name before!	15:08
JesusFreak316	:)	15:08
Jake\|E5400	Not working: sound	15:09
Jake\|E5400	nooooooo! ;)	15:09
JesusFreak316	Yeah that's wrong actually, about to fix that.	15:09
Jake\|E5400	Oh really? You got sound working?	15:09
* Jake\|E5400 downloads		15:09
JesusFreak316	Me, nooo. phh	15:09
Jake\|E5400	someone	15:10
JesusFreak316	phh is the resident kernel master here.	15:11
Jake\|E5400	ah	15:11
* Jake\|E5400 is the resident broke n00b		15:12
* Jake\|E5400 waves		15:12
JesusFreak316	My thread's working/not working list should be better now. :)	15:12
Jake\|E5400	I'll post a video on http://retro-box.net if/when I get it working :)	15:13
Jake\|E5400	awesome	15:14
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Jake\|E5400	I couldn't care less about bluetooth, calling, etc. but wifi and sound are musts	15:14
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JesusFreak316	Personal site shameless plug?	15:14
JesusFreak316	:)	15:14
Jake\|E5400	exactly	15:14
JesusFreak316	At least one of us knows html.	15:15
* JesusFreak316 knows no code whatsoever.		15:15
Jake\|E5400	...well...	15:15
Jake\|E5400	that's wordpress	15:15
JesusFreak316	Cheater.	15:15
Jake\|E5400	I'm terrible with HTML and CSS	15:15
Jake\|E5400	but trying	15:15
Jake\|E5400	The only code/programming I can do is BASIC on my TRS-80 Model 100	15:15
Jake\|E5400	And even that is mediocre	15:15
Jake\|E5400	But I can use MS-DOS :3	15:16
JesusFreak316	Mmmm, BASIC.	15:16
arrrghhh	lol	15:16
arrrghhh	that's not programming	15:16
arrrghhh	BASIC is	15:16
arrrghhh	but ms-dos is not :P	15:16
Jake\|E5400	yeah	15:16
Jake\|E5400	I know	15:16
arrrghhh	i remember BASIC	15:16
Jake\|E5400	Just sayin'	15:16
arrrghhh	haha	15:16
arrrghhh	good times.	15:16
JesusFreak316	I can even use a command line.	15:16
arrrghhh	TI-BASIC was fun.	15:16
arrrghhh	ever used that?	15:16
Jake\|E5400	1 print 'hello'	15:16
Jake\|E5400	2 goto 1	15:16
arrrghhh	fail.	15:16
arrrghhh	lol	15:16
Jake\|E5400	OHNOES I CAN'T STOP IT WHAT DO I DO AAAAAAAHHHH!	15:17
* Jake\|E5400 ctrl+break		15:17
arrrghhh	i remember our c++ teacher in high school wouldn't let us use goto statements. called it spaghetti programming LOL	15:17
Jake\|E5400	bah	15:17
JesusFreak316	Hey, no recursing. http://xkcd.com/244/	15:17
Jake\|E5400	Is it sad that I knew what comic that was before I clicked the link?	15:18
arrrghhh	lol	15:18
arrrghhh	ditto.	15:18
JesusFreak316	Not at all. :)	15:18
Jake\|E5400	Hmm	15:18
Jake\|E5400	Yep, I'm totally stumped with this winmo/android clock issue	15:18
arrrghhh	just don't use winmo.	15:18
arrrghhh	problem solved.	15:18
Jake\|E5400	I have all my contacts, appointments, etc. in winmo	15:18
arrrghhh	sync 'em	15:18
arrrghhh	gooooooooooooogle	15:18
JesusFreak316	Yeah.	15:18
arrrghhh	gmail is the shiznit	15:19
Jake\|E5400	Is there a program for winomo that will sync AAAAAALLLLL mah stuff with my google account?	15:19
arrrghhh	exchange	15:19
arrrghhh	w/gmail	15:19
JesusFreak316	You create a google exchange server and sync with it.	15:19
Jake\|E5400	I have, like, 8 gmail accounts ^_^	15:19
JesusFreak316	Grr, ninja'd	15:19
arrrghhh	it'll sync contacts & calendar	15:19
Jake\|E5400	that's way above my head	15:19
JesusFreak316	Not that bad actually.	15:19
Jake\|E5400	<- 14-year-old noob...	15:19
arrrghhh	it's so easy.	15:19
arrrghhh	you're 14?	15:19
arrrghhh	still.	15:19
arrrghhh	easy.	15:19
Jake\|E5400	Yeah.	15:19
arrrghhh	i was programming java at your age :P	15:19
Jake\|E5400	And I can use my main server for that?	15:20
JesusFreak316	http://www.google.com/support/mobile/bin/answer.py?answer=138636&topic=14299	15:20
arrrghhh	now i program nothing lol	15:20
Jake\|E5400	Would a celeron 2.5GHz be fast enough you spose?	15:20
arrrghhh	Jake\|E5400, whaddya mean?	15:20
JesusFreak316	You don't host your own server.	15:20
arrrghhh	uhm... what? you sync with your gmail account.	15:20
arrrghhh	like googles billions of servers?	15:20
JesusFreak316	Just follow the directions in the link.	15:20
arrrghhh	lol	15:20
Jake\|E5400	oh	15:21
Jake\|E5400	I though I was installing Exchange or something on MY server	15:21
Jake\|E5400	my bad	15:21
arrrghhh	no no	15:21
* Jake\|E5400 clicks the link		15:21
arrrghhh	google uses exchange with winmo	15:21
JesusFreak316	Now I see why you thought it would be hard, lol.	15:21
arrrghhh	and whatever the hell they want to call it in android	15:21
Jake\|E5400	darn, I'm looking for more uses for a Debian server.	15:21
arrrghhh	lol	15:21
JesusFreak316	TF2 server?	15:21
arrrghhh	don't try to use exchange on linux.	15:21
Jake\|E5400	TF2? On a celeron with 256MB of RAM?	15:21
arrrghhh	it's just not worth it... zimbra is about the only viable one i've seen.	15:21
arrrghhh	lol	15:22
Jake\|E5400	It didn't cost me a dime	15:22
arrrghhh	man i had to pay to build my own pc when i was 14...	15:23
Jake\|E5400	aw, nuts. The slider on my TP is getting REALLY wobbly	15:23
arrrghhh	worked construction jobs & saved up. 300mhz amd k6/2 with 192mb of ram LOL	15:23
arrrghhh	yea the tp was known for that.	15:24
arrrghhh	insurance is awesome, but you don't even have it activated lol	15:24
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arrrghhh	they gave me my tp & tp2 as free upgrades when crap broke.	15:24
arrrghhh	last phone i bought was my mogul lol	15:24
arrrghhh	good name AndChat\| mr jesusfreak	15:25
arrrghhh	:P	15:25
JesusFreak316	meh, my name isn't supposed to be ANdChat\| on my phone.	15:25
JesusFreak316	Shut up.	15:25
arrrghhh	bwhahaha	15:25
Jake\|E5400	Hey, wow, it's syncing	15:25
JesusFreak316	How do you do a second choice name? It didn't work.	15:26
Jake\|E5400	arrrghhh K6-2's are the best EVAR	15:26
arrrghhh	seriously.	15:26
arrrghhh	JesusFreak316, there should be several username boxes basically.	15:26
JesusFreak316	I tried and it did that.	15:26
arrrghhh	hrm	15:26
Jake\|E5400	/nick JesusFreak\|mo	15:26
Jake\|E5400	just do that :P	15:26
arrrghhh	well i think he knows that :P	15:27
JesusFreak316	Meh, you know who I am. Just grabbing my phone while I eat.	15:27
arrrghhh	but the nick entries should work. dunno. the first name always works for me :P	15:27
Jake\|E5400	okay... I guess the Exchange thing DIDN'T work.	15:27
Jake\|E5400	poo	15:27
AndChat\|	What happened?	15:28
arrrghhh	wat now?	15:28
Jake\|E5400	I got a generic error message, I guess I set something up wrong	15:29
* Jake\|E5400 googles		15:29
arrrghhh	ok	15:29
arrrghhh	if you've never used calendar it'll fail	15:29
arrrghhh	and if you check sync text messages or tasks	15:29
arrrghhh	it'll fail	15:29
Jake\|E5400	oh	15:29
Jake\|E5400	well	15:29
arrrghhh	...	15:29
Jake\|E5400	'if you've never used calendar'	15:29
Jake\|E5400	what do you mean by that?	15:29
arrrghhh	yea	15:29
AndChat\|	"Well there's your problem" as Adam from Mythbusters.	15:30
arrrghhh	so my buddy opened a spanking new gmail account	15:30
arrrghhh	never used it, and he could only sync contacts.	15:30
arrrghhh	until i think he at the very least clicked over onto the calendar section. i don't think he even needed to create an appt, not sure.	15:30
Jake\|E5400	I love mythbusters	15:31
arrrghhh	but that was killing his sync.	15:31
Jake\|E5400	it's working now	15:31
AndChat\|	Jake, stop being me. It's weird. ;)	15:31
arrrghhh	you guys aren't both 14 are you?	15:31
arrrghhh	lol	15:31
AndChat\|	No	15:31
Jake\|E5400	My favorite tv shows: mythbusters, doctor who, top gear, home improvment, and dirty jobs	15:31
AndChat\|	Still only 19 though.	15:32
Jake\|E5400	Close enough ;)	15:32
arrrghhh	lol	15:32
AndChat\|	Home improvement... good times.	15:32
arrrghhh	haven't seen dirty jobs in forever.	15:32
Jake\|E5400	They still play reruns occasionally.	15:32
arrrghhh	er	15:32
arrrghhh	dirty jobs...	15:32
Jake\|E5400	of home improvement	15:32
arrrghhh	home improvement.	15:32
AndChat\|	You know Mike Rowe did Dirty Jobs on Sesame Street with Oscar?	15:32
Jake\|E5400	hahaha	15:32
arrrghhh	no	15:33
arrrghhh	lol	15:33
Jake\|E5400	Mike was getting patted down on an episode yesterday, and then the lady switches on this machine that was on his back	15:33
Jake\|E5400	<her> ok, you're turned on	15:33
Jake\|E5400	<him> yeah, no kidding.	15:33
Jake\|E5400	:P	15:33
arrrghhh	he's such a manwhore	15:33
Jake\|E5400	I'm the same way, actually...	15:34
arrrghhh	i saw one recently where he basically made the chick buckle his belt lol	15:34
Jake\|E5400	A bit more subtle, though.	15:34
arrrghhh	don't say that. you're 14.	15:34
arrrghhh	you shouldn't be a manwhore at 14.	15:34
Jake\|E5400	haha	15:34
arrrghhh	man this convo is going south quick...	15:34
Jake\|E5400	No kidding	15:34
AndChat\|	He even used innuendo on Sesame Street. When Oscar asks him to come around back of his trashcan he says "I always wanted to go in the back."	15:34
Jake\|E5400	XD	15:34
arrrghhh	lol	15:35
Jake\|E5400	Oh dear.	15:35
Jake\|E5400	Makes for good TV, though.	15:35
JesusFreak316	You know, it went south even without TheDeadCPU this time, lol.	15:37
arrrghhh	surprising	15:37
Jake\|E5400	Is he resident pervert?	15:37
JesusFreak316	Pretty much.	15:37
arrrghhh	the resident norwegian.	15:37
JesusFreak316	He's from Norway; nuff said.	15:37
arrrghhh	LOL	15:37
arrrghhh	ninja'd again!	15:38
Jake\|E5400	I'm in high school; nuff said	15:38
JesusFreak316	I'm in college and I'm not.	15:38
arrrghhh	freshman?	15:38
Jake\|E5400	High School is nothing more than a place to keep teenagers out of society while they stew in their own hormones	15:38
arrrghhh	i was in college. i am.	15:38
Jake\|E5400	Yeah, freshman. Homeschooled freshman.	15:38
JesusFreak316	lol	15:38
arrrghhh	homeschooled?	15:38
Jake\|E5400	The local high school is notorious.	15:38
arrrghhh	you're not in highschool then :P	15:38
JesusFreak316	I was homeschooled. Sleep is nice.	15:38
Jake\|E5400	^^	15:39
arrrghhh	lol	15:39
Jake\|E5400	I can sleep till 10am if I want to	15:39
Jake\|E5400	and do school in my pajamas :3	15:39
arrrghhh	ha	15:39
JesusFreak316	Preach it!	15:39
arrrghhh	i just wonder about social interaction tho	15:39
Jake\|E5400	I have NONE	15:39
arrrghhh	i mean i suck at it AND i went to public school.	15:39
Jake\|E5400	Except for church.	15:39
arrrghhh	well i went to a bunch of schools	15:40
JesusFreak316	O.o Jake, you are me.	15:40
arrrghhh	a charter school run by religious nuts	15:40
Jake\|E5400	That's the only social interaction I get, but apparrently the church i go to is also where all the 'cool guys' from the high school go to, and I'm pretty popular as far as church group goes.	15:40
JesusFreak316	I'm terrified.	15:40
arrrghhh	public school	15:40
Jake\|E5400	I AM JESUS!!!!	15:40
arrrghhh	lol	15:40
arrrghhh	see what you've done JesusFreak316 ?	15:40
JesusFreak316	Yeah.	15:40
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arrrghhh	haha	15:42
JesusFreak316	So, arrrghhh, how long 'til your contract expires and you can get a new phone?	15:43
arrrghhh	... i never signed a contract.	15:43
arrrghhh	you really don't want to know the details of my plan dude.	15:43
JesusFreak316	You and your posh Sprint plan.	15:43
arrrghhh	lol	15:43
JesusFreak316	So how do you get new phones?	15:44
arrrghhh	thru my buddy	15:44
arrrghhh	who works for sprint. legacy nextel actually.	15:44
JesusFreak316	Do I want to know how he gets them?	15:44
arrrghhh	i used to have an even better nextel plan.	15:44
JesusFreak316	GAH, ninja'd again!!!1!	15:44
arrrghhh	yea.	15:44
arrrghhh	sorry... :P	15:44
Tandyman100	JesusFreak316, type faster	15:45
JesusFreak316	Is difficult. :(	15:45
arrrghhh	he's why i have the plan	15:45
arrrghhh	it's actually his account under sprint	15:45
arrrghhh	i can't go into a sprint store and get a new phone.	15:45
arrrghhh	i can get repairs	15:45
arrrghhh	warranty crap	15:45
arrrghhh	but no plan talk. sprint rep's can't even look at my account lol	15:45
* Tandyman100 boots into android		15:45
Tandyman100	IMHO, the boot logo could be better :/	15:47
arrrghhh	my dad tried to go to the store the other day and get a new phone for my mom, he was pretty pissed when the sales rep just tried to do a switcharoo and put them on a significantly more expensive plan lol	15:47
arrrghhh	Tandyman100, which build?	15:47
Tandyman100	Latest 2.2 build	15:47
arrrghhh	there was a thread on boot animation contest	15:47
arrrghhh	well	15:47
arrrghhh	reference	15:47
arrrghhh	blazn	15:47
arrrghhh	neopeek	15:47
arrrghhh	neo has like hundreds it seems too	15:47
Tandyman100	It's theone with the flying androids	15:48
JesusFreak316	I like the boot animation. Choppy but cool.	15:48
Tandyman100	it was present in 2.1 as well	15:48
arrrghhh	reference.	15:48
arrrghhh	i think it's cool :P	15:48
arrrghhh	they're all painting it	15:48
arrrghhh	the drunk droid was my fave tho	15:48
Tandyman100	Painting?	15:48
arrrghhh	remember that one JesusFreak316 ?	15:48
Tandyman100	Drunk droid? WHERE?!	15:48
arrrghhh	lol	15:48
JesusFreak316	Yep.	15:48
arrrghhh	it was in the contest thread! 1 sec.	15:48
JesusFreak316	http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=691526	15:49
JesusFreak316	Thread.	15:49
arrrghhh	indeed	15:49
arrrghhh	tryin to find the drunk droid post tho :	15:49
arrrghhh	:P	15:49
JesusFreak316	They were pretty much all by lugiber, right?	15:49
* Tandyman100 waits impatiently for Android to load all of his contacts		15:49
arrrghhh	well	15:50
arrrghhh	he did the majority i'd say	15:50
arrrghhh	(the better of the lot as well :P)	15:50
JesusFreak316	Contacts are easier with gsm. :)	15:50
arrrghhh	but there were some others posted.	15:50
arrrghhh	his phone isn't even active lol	15:50
arrrghhh	i guess you can still use the SIM for contacts on an inactive phone...?	15:50
JesusFreak316	Yep.	15:51
arrrghhh	haven't used a SIM since my nextel days.	15:51
arrrghhh	6-7 years now.	15:51
JesusFreak316	http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6670407&postcount=35	15:51
JesusFreak316	^Drunk droid.	15:51
arrrghhh	d'oh. don't know why my search only turned up my post lol	15:52
arrrghhh	and of course i didn't quote it :P	15:52
JesusFreak316	Assuming you have an xda account Tandy.	15:52
Tandyman100	Yeah	15:53
Tandyman100	and a PPCGeeks account :D	15:53
JesusFreak316	Good	15:53
Tandyman100	BAHAHA THAT'S AWESOME	15:54
arrrghhh	yea	15:55
arrrghhh	that was my personal favce	15:55
arrrghhh	er	15:55
arrrghhh	ffave	15:55
arrrghhh	damnit.	15:55
JesusFreak316	FAIL	15:56
arrrghhh	seriously.	15:56
arrrghhh	keyboard FAIL	15:56
Tandyman100	haha	15:56
arrrghhh	i need a new laptop. this thing scalds me and is old.	15:56
Tandyman100	What's the best free way to theme XDAndroid?	15:56
arrrghhh	themeing it not easy	15:56
arrrghhh	you need to know how to build the system image	15:56
arrrghhh	and then be able to muck with hex	15:56
Tandyman100	Oh. Then nevermind ;)	15:56
Tandyman100	I'm not that technical	15:57
arrrghhh	i'm trying to learn myself.	15:57
arrrghhh	lol	15:57
JesusFreak316	Really? You still have to do that with Metamorph?	15:57
Tandyman100	I'm just not fond of the default white theme. It doesn't go well with the black shiney exterior of my Touch Pro	15:57
arrrghhh	blazn	15:57
arrrghhh	although it is in dire need of updating.	15:57
arrrghhh	some of the cynaogen stuff is cool too.	15:57
arrrghhh	runs pretty freakin quick, but seems outdated as well.	15:57
* Tandyman100 downloads andChat		15:58
* JesusFreak316 farts		15:58
arrrghhh	good thing tcp/ip doesn't transmit smell.	15:59
Tandyman100	^^	15:59
arrrghhh	it's a shame it doesn't trasmit punches in the face tho.	15:59
arrrghhh	i'd really like to punch some people with just an IP.	15:59
JesusFreak316	Imagine if they make a voice recorder for smells someday. Imagine the fart apps for iphone then.	15:59
* JesusFreak316 shudders		15:59
arrrghhh	jeebus.	16:00
arrrghhh	that's unholy sir JesusFreak316	16:00
arrrghhh	smell recorder	16:00
arrrghhh	mmmm bacon	16:00
Tandyman100	O_o	16:00
Tandyman100	I LOVE BACON	16:00
arrrghhh	i've seen bacon flavored vodka	16:00
arrrghhh	not sure how well that would go down...	16:00
JesusFreak316	Oh Russia...	16:00
arrrghhh	O____o neither of you can drink.	16:01
Tandyman100	I don't drink :/	16:01
Tandyman100	ninja'd	16:01
arrrghhh	lol at your age that's good Tandyman100 :P	16:01
arrrghhh	although 15 is when i started... wait nvm.	16:01
Tandyman100	haha	16:01
arrrghhh	so JesusFreak316 ever get that GPS workin?	16:02
JesusFreak316	yes actually,	16:02
JesusFreak316	Although, midway on my way to the place my phone goes into sleep and at resume the directions were gone.	16:02
arrrghhh	lol	16:02
arrrghhh	that suuuucks	16:03
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arrrghhh	i was using the full on navi once	16:03
arrrghhh	and the phone froze	16:03
tacoman	Hey it works :)	16:03
arrrghhh	but i was on a stretch that waslike 45 miles	16:03
JesusFreak316	http://xkcd.com/292/	16:03
arrrghhh	so i didn't realize it froze right away...	16:03
JesusFreak316	is kinda relevant	16:03
JesusFreak316	to earlier.	16:03
arrrghhh	haha	16:03
arrrghhh	indeed	16:03
JesusFreak316	Was just browsing this page and was waiting for someone to link to xdcd.	16:04
JesusFreak316	http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=138094716222781	16:04
Tandyman100	xkcd*	16:05
arrrghhh	damnit i hate being old. enjoy being young while you can kids. responsibility sucks.	16:05
JesusFreak316	Whoops.	16:05
JesusFreak316	Thanks O Wise One.	16:05
arrrghhh	lol	16:06
arrrghhh	sorry. just thinking about all the crap i gotta do today.	16:06
arrrghhh	and in the next few days :S	16:06
Tandyman100	haha	16:06
* arrrghhh just bought his first house		16:06
arrrghhh	and i've got 2 cars that need new tires.	16:06
Tandyman100	Oh wow	16:07
JesusFreak316	Pfft, cool people live in cars.	16:07
arrrghhh	lol	16:07
arrrghhh	my truck can wait for a month or so	16:08
arrrghhh	but my gf's car... my old car really desperately needs new tires.	16:08
arrrghhh	stupid life. all expensive & whatnot.	16:08
Tandyman100	Living is such an inconvenience	16:08
arrrghhh	i guess i could move to the australian bush	16:09
arrrghhh	no more 50" plasma and ps3 :P	16:09
arrrghhh	nah i like it here.	16:09
Tandyman100	>ps3	16:09
Tandyman100	Dude, hook up a quad-core PC to your plasma	16:09
arrrghhh	well	16:09
arrrghhh	i have a server that's quad-core	16:09
JesusFreak316	Uh, you forgot to put TF2 on Pc before the > sign. :)	16:09
arrrghhh	but it doesn't have a DE on it.	16:09
Tandyman100	DE?	16:10
arrrghhh	it's my everything-server, mainly for downloading & streaming media to my ps3	16:10
arrrghhh	desktop environment?	16:10
arrrghhh	gnome, kde...	16:10
Tandyman100	OOOH	16:10
arrrghhh	doesn't have X11 either.	16:10
JesusFreak316	X12's where it's at.	16:10
Tandyman100	NO. X32	16:10
arrrghhh	lol JesusFreak316 is starting to troll. slowly.	16:10
arrrghhh	:P	16:10
JesusFreak316	:)	16:11
Tandyman100	haha	16:11
Tandyman100	I have X1 on my 486 laptop	16:11
Tandyman100	wait	16:11
Tandyman100	X1 is a home automation system	16:11
JesusFreak316	lolwut?	16:11
arrrghhh	dude my dad has an apple IIe that's older than me.	16:11
Tandyman100	and you CAN contorol it with a 486	16:11
Tandyman100	...I just trolled myself	16:11
arrrghhh	seriously.	16:11
JesusFreak316	Are we all talking about the x11 windowing system?	16:11
arrrghhh	or something.	16:11
Tandyman100	I have a 1983 laptop older than you	16:11
arrrghhh	i don't know anymore.	16:12
Tandyman100	Jesus: we were...	16:12
arrrghhh	Tandyman100, how do you know what's older than me :P	16:12
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* Jesus walks on water		16:12
*** Jesus is now known as Tandyman100		16:12
arrrghhh	Jesus isn't taken?	16:12
arrrghhh	interesting.	16:12
JesusFreak316	Having fun?	16:12
Tandyman100	It is	16:12
Tandyman100	nickserv was screaming at me :P	16:12
arrrghhh	well logged on i guess would be a better word for it :P	16:12
Tandyman100	yeah	16:13
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JesusFreak316	arrrghhh: How often would you say your phone crashes to the android boot animation? It happens multiple times a day for me.	16:17
JesusFreak316	During Angry Birds, Pandora, Market, Browser, pretty much everything randomly.	16:17
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arrrghhh	hrm	16:19
arrrghhh	not that frequently for me	16:19
arrrghhh	but i don't play angry birds :P	16:19
arrrghhh	i use those other things, they rarely cause reboots for me.	16:19
arrrghhh	do you OC?	16:19
JesusFreak316	I know you don't. There just seems to be no rhyme or reason to it.	16:19
JesusFreak316	Yeah, I do, I'm gonna deactivate it soon.	16:20
arrrghhh	turn it off completely.	16:20
JesusFreak316	It only started in the past month or so.	16:20
arrrghhh	you can simpley take the statement out	16:20
JesusFreak316	I've been OCing for forever, but who know.	16:20
arrrghhh	i've had really mixed results.	16:20
JesusFreak316	I will.	16:20
arrrghhh	with OC'ing that is.	16:20
Jake\|lolwut	What phone are your ocing?	16:21
arrrghhh	on reference it seems to screw up	16:21
arrrghhh	RHOD	16:21
JesusFreak316	Fuze	16:21
arrrghhh	i don't have my RAPH any longer...	16:21
arrrghhh	insurance replacement, remember? :P	16:21
JesusFreak316	Oh yeah...	16:21
arrrghhh	i have an old apache	16:21
arrrghhh	and my mogul	16:21
arrrghhh	don't really use 'em anymore tho haha	16:21
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arrrghhh	nice.	16:25
arrrghhh	managed to get everything done i wanted to, and then the phone rebooted.	16:26
JesusFreak316	To Winmo or android boot animation?	16:26
arrrghhh	i hope a good android slider comes to sprint soon... i kinda hate how stupid the whole carrier wars crap is.	16:26
arrrghhh	complete to winmo.	16:26
JesusFreak316	I NEVER get those.	16:26
arrrghhh	like soft resest style with the one vibe	16:26
arrrghhh	so i had google maps open with gps	16:27
arrrghhh	called discount tire	16:27
arrrghhh	was slow and took forever, but eventually connected	16:27
JesusFreak316	I want to get a logcat of it but it's just so random.	16:27
arrrghhh	call was fine	16:27
arrrghhh	and then hanging up the problem really started	16:27
arrrghhh	it said it was hanging up forever, then the screen shut off.	16:27
arrrghhh	woke it to the lock screen, unlocked & google maps popped up with gps back on	16:28
arrrghhh	and i hit the back key a few times, and it rebooted lol	16:28
arrrghhh	not sure if that was radio--related or not. but it seemed to be...	16:28
arrrghhh	i need to get a logcat -B radio or whatever when that happens. ah well, probably not going to get a lot of attention until all the other little things are cleaned up.	16:29
arrrghhh	anyhoo, time to go spend 2 week's pay on rubber LOL	16:32
JesusFreak316	Did you really add the camera but to the tracker? Lol	16:32
arrrghhh	haha	16:33
arrrghhh	hey i figured BT was on there.	16:34
JesusFreak316	My home button still doesn't work with all the newest files; did stinebd fix that? I thought he did.	16:35
arrrghhh	dunno	16:36
arrrghhh	no raph	16:36
JesusFreak316	I know.	16:36
arrrghhh	well then	16:36
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arrrghhh	so it does nothing?	16:37
JesusFreak316	You ever try out itching thumb?	16:37
JesusFreak316	Nothing.	16:37
arrrghhh	never heard of that	16:37
JesusFreak316	I kept my data.img when I upgraded to frxo2 though.	16:38
JesusFreak316	Don't see why that would make a difference though.	16:38
arrrghhh	system images typically require a new data.img	16:38
arrrghhh	you have to try that before complaining about ANYTHING	16:39
arrrghhh	I TELL YOU ANYTHING	16:39
JesusFreak316	I know but it's such a PAIN.	16:39
arrrghhh	deal with it.	16:39
JesusFreak316	No u.	16:39
arrrghhh	you can move it	16:39
arrrghhh	reanme it	16:39
JesusFreak316	I already have like 4 of those on my sd, lol.	16:39
arrrghhh	if it fixes the issue	16:40
arrrghhh	delete the broken one...	16:40
arrrghhh	seems simple.	16:40
arrrghhh	but i must go.	16:40
JesusFreak316	True, meh.	16:40
JesusFreak316	See ya.	16:40
Jake\|lolwut	later arrrghhh	16:43
Jake\|lolwut	Does anyone know how to keep the wifi on when my device goes to sleep?	16:44
Jake\|lolwut	So that I don't ping timout of irc?	16:44
JesusFreak316	Nope.	16:44
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Tandyman100	hmm	16:44
JesusFreak316	Make up yourmind on your name. ;)	16:45
Tandyman100	Well, I lost my connection here and Tandyman100 was still taken	16:45
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JesusFreak316	twitch twitch	16:46
nicks	haha	16:46
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Tandyman100	every single one of those was registered	16:47
Tandyman100	what is the cycanogen mod, in a nutshell?	16:49
JesusFreak316	Haven't used it much but it is the most famous android custom rom.	16:50
Tandyman100	Is there an xdandroid version?	16:51
Tandyman100	http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/do-you-have-obsessive-rom-updating-disorder-ord/	16:51
Tandyman100	^me	16:51
JesusFreak316	http://www.cyanogenmod.com/about	16:51
* Tandyman100 learns this mysterious thing called google		16:51
JesusFreak316	http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735975	16:51
JesusFreak316	Not quite as easy to install though.	16:52
JesusFreak316	Requires partitioning your sd.	16:52
Tandyman100	oh	16:52
Tandyman100	darn	16:52
JesusFreak316	It's not that bad though. It has a GREAT tutorial.	16:53
Tandyman100	ok	17:03
Tandyman100	So now that I am initiated into the brotherhood of xdandroid users, what are the first things I should download?	17:04
Tandyman100	apps, tools, etc.	17:07
* JesusFreak316 checks his phone.		17:08
JesusFreak316	adfree, titanium backup, es file browser, clocksync, terminal emulator, and xda.	17:10
JesusFreak316	Astro is the most popular file browser but es supposedly has root access.	17:10
Tandyman100	Can either of them browse the phone's internal memory?	17:11
JesusFreak316	es might be able to. Checking now.	17:11
JesusFreak316	root explorer can but it's not free.	17:11
Tandyman100	And I noticed that when I plug in my touch pro via USB, nothing pops up for me to copy files or something	17:11
Tandyman100	oh	17:11
JesusFreak316	sd mass storage doesn't work. Either learn adb, use a ftp server, or download droid explorer for windows.	17:12
Tandyman100	Oh, ok. That's fair enough :)	17:12
Tandyman100	What about bluetooth?	17:13
JesusFreak316	For file transfer? Don't think so.	17:13
JesusFreak316	Just try this. http://de.codeplex.com/	17:13
Tandyman100	Cool	17:14
Tandyman100	Thanks for the help :D	17:14
JesusFreak316	It's rather finnicky though.	17:14
JesusFreak316	It crashes for me.	17:14
Tandyman100	I'll see how well it works on this XP laptop	17:15
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Tandyman100	http://pocketnow.com/tweaks-hacks/first-dual-boot-rom-appears-for-touch-pro-fuze	17:56
Tandyman100	I'm thinking of flashing to that	17:56
TheDeadCPU	You can install the Dual Boot app on any phone :p	17:59
TheDeadCPU	http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623792	18:00
Tandyman100	yeah	18:00
Tandyman100	Oh, one question. Is it possible to put XDAndroid on the internal storage and have installed apps and stuff go to the storage card?	18:00
reukiodo	IIRC, depends on the phone	18:19
reukiodo	Rhodium can't	18:19
TheDeadCPU	reukiodo, Only the Vogue can atm.	18:20
Tandyman100	Oh, ok.	18:20
reukiodo	[13:26] <arrrghhh> i hope a good android slider comes to sprint soon... i kinda hate how stupid the whole carrier wars crap is.	18:20
TheDeadCPU	The rhodium is way to buggy from nand for that to work	18:20
Tandyman100	Is making your own ROM beyond the scope of this channel?	18:20
reukiodo	didn't anyone know about the Epic?	18:20
TheDeadCPU	No.	18:20
TheDeadCPU	reukiodo, ofc. But he doesn't approve of Samsung.	18:21
TheDeadCPU	IIRC	18:21
Tandyman100	It'd be cool to make my own version of this: http://pocketnow.com/tweaks-hacks/first-dual-boot-rom-appears-for-touch-pro-fuze but with version 2.2	18:21
reukiodo	well, the Rhodium is an awesome phone, but Android's not 100% yet	18:21
Tandyman100	Just the camera missing, I think	18:21
reukiodo	TheDeadCPU: are you one of the xdandroid developers?	18:23
TheDeadCPU	No. I'm more user support :p	18:23
TheDeadCPU	Tandyman100, Umm. It's just a stripped out WinMo rom with a program that launches Android from the SD Card.	18:24
Tandyman100	Oh	18:24
TheDeadCPU	You have to install Android to your SD anyways	18:24
Tandyman100	well that's easy enough ;)	18:24
TheDeadCPU	bbl, food.	18:24
Tandyman100	yum food	18:24
reukiodo	TheDeadCPU: what device(s) do you run xdandroid on?	18:24
Tandyman100	Almost all HTC devices, i think	18:25
Tandyman100	including the xperia x1	18:25
reukiodo	I meant him specifically	18:25
reukiodo	I've only tried it on Rhodium and Diamond	18:25
reukiodo	I wish that HTC would just release images for their older winmo phones for android... they're all very similar hardware	18:26
Tandyman100	yeah	18:27
reukiodo	or even just radio, bootloader, and source so the xdandroid team could pick up	18:28
reukiodo	Tandyman100: what phone(s) are you running xdandroid on?	18:40
Tandyman100	Just my CDMA touch pro	18:40
Tandyman100	unfortunatly, it won't run on my i760 ;)	18:40
reukiodo	http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=1108 ?	18:42
Tandyman100	Yes, what about it?	18:45
reukiodo	looks nice	18:46
reukiodo	could use a little android love	18:46
reukiodo	though might be slow	18:46
Tandyman100	yeah	18:46
Tandyman100	it's a REALLY well-built phone	18:46
Tandyman100	solid	18:46
reukiodo	how much RAM?	18:46
Tandyman100	only 60mb	18:48
Tandyman100	and qvga screen	18:49
Tandyman100	no accellerometer or gps	18:49
reukiodo	this spec page says aGPS though	18:51
Tandyman100	no	18:51
Tandyman100	it lies	18:51
reukiodo	ah	18:52
reukiodo	well, 60MB of RAM would be quite limiting...	18:52
Tandyman100	no kidding	18:52
reukiodo	the G1 struggles with 90MB available to it	18:52
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TheDeadCPU	reukiodo, None atm. But I have a Touch Pro and Touch Pro 2	19:14
Tandyman100	Yay, I now have a nice, minimalist Android desktop!	19:32
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urgodfather	hey whats up people	19:46
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urgodfather	anyone wanna help me figure out why xdandroid wont boot on my tp2	19:47
TheDeadCPU	Shoot.	19:49
urgodfather	it just says read ept something then 24 bytes	19:50
urgodfather	and it loops	19:50
urgodfather	on that	19:50
urgodfather	anyone know what rpc read on ept d52aa4a0	19:57
urgodfather	means?	19:57
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Tandyman100	hey Jesus	20:44
Tandyman100	urgodfather, sounds like it could be a configuration error	20:44
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TheDeadCPU	I'm just going to admit it.	20:56
TheDeadCPU	I like having a transparent terminal in *nix.	20:56
Tandyman100	haha	20:57
Tandyman100	yeah	20:57
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TheDeadCPU	I feel like a sinner.	20:58
Tandyman100	Why?	21:02
TheDeadCPU	Having a transparent terminal.	21:02
TheDeadCPU	It makes me feel dirty.	21:02
Tandyman100	It looks cool though :)	21:03
TheDeadCPU	True.	21:03
Tandyman100	8088s: they're obso1337	21:04
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TheDeadCPU	lol	21:04
Tandyman100	But yeah, transparent terminals make you look cooler :P	21:13
TheDeadCPU	lool	21:17
Tandyman100	what are some cool apps/games/widgets I should get on my xdandroid phone?	21:27
JesusFreak316	Obligitory angry birds.	21:28
JesusFreak316	if you can stand the lag at least.	21:28
JesusFreak316	I personally like this game called alchemy also.	21:29
Tandyman100	I already have alchemy	21:30
Tandyman100	I made alchohol	21:30
Tandyman100	:P	21:30
JesusFreak316	Of course you do. I like it so you must too. :/	21:30
JesusFreak316	I made life!	21:30
JesusFreak316	I have 90/300 items.	21:31
Tandyman100	I can't remember how, I did the first time, but then I moved to another xdandroid build and forgot	21:31
Tandyman100	I also made 1up :D	21:31
JesusFreak316	Yeah, that one made me lol.	21:31
Tandyman100	Anyone here use App inventor?	21:33
Tandyman100	JesusFreak316, what does your android home screen look lik atm?	21:35
JesusFreak316	Nothing special, power control and calendar widgets and a few app shortcuts.	21:35
JesusFreak316	I did enable 5 row homescreen which is REALLY nice.	21:36
* Tandyman100 checks it out		21:36
Tandyman100	I just have a basic text clock and text battery widgets i found in the appstorething	21:36
JesusFreak316	It's not an app, it's a setting in launcher pro fyi.	21:37
Tandyman100	oh, launcher pro	21:37
Tandyman100	I don't have a build with that, it kept giving me notices it was out of trial period or something	21:37
JesusFreak316	Grr, I want Cookie Home Tab 2.0 final.	21:37
Tandyman100	Is there some sort of app I can just get from the market and it will let me theme?	21:37
Tandyman100	Why can't you have Co0kie HT2?	21:38
JesusFreak316	Don't know, never tried.	21:38
JesusFreak316	Final isn't released yet.	21:38
Tandyman100	oh	21:38
JesusFreak316	I'm waiting for that before I flash a new rom.	21:38
Tandyman100	that's the one with the new layer?	21:38
JesusFreak316	Sure.	21:38
Tandyman100	I wish there was a button on my touch pro that would take android ALL THE WAY BACK to the home screen	21:39
Tandyman100	instead of backbackbackbackbackback	21:39
JesusFreak316	Does your home button not work?	21:39
* Tandyman100 looks for a button-mapper		21:39
Tandyman100	It just brings up a menu	21:39
Tandyman100	the menu, of whatever app I'm in	21:39
JesusFreak316	How old it your rootfs and zImage?	21:39
JesusFreak316	Does the power button bring you to the home screen?	21:40
Tandyman100	latest build, I think	21:40
Tandyman100	oh	21:40
Tandyman100	yeah, it does	21:40
Tandyman100	-_-	21:40
JesusFreak316	You need to update.	21:40
Tandyman100	oh, no	21:40
Tandyman100	screenshot of your build?	21:40
JesusFreak316	Newest rootfs and zImage have home as home, power as power, back as back, and select as menu.	21:40
Tandyman100	i quite like how the menu button is in this one	21:40
Tandyman100	ok	21:41
JesusFreak316	I do miss the select button from the old version.	21:41
JesusFreak316	No screenshots atm. In winmo.	21:41
Tandyman100	http://russenreaktor.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/android_froyo_2_2_russenreaktor_01.png	21:42
Tandyman100	is that what it looks like?	21:42
JesusFreak316	Nah, that's the stock launcher. Download launcherpro.	21:42
JesusFreak316	MUCH faster and all around better.	21:43
JesusFreak316	Booting android and I'l post a screenie.	21:43
Tandyman100	oh	21:44
Tandyman100	Does the new ROM come with it?	21:44
JesusFreak316	Oh, and Wordfeud is ALOT of fun. Online scrabble similar to wordswithfriends on iphone.	21:44
Tandyman100	ok	21:44
JesusFreak316	Which system.ext2 file are you using?	21:44
JesusFreak316	FRX02 right?	21:44
JesusFreak316	That's the newest.	21:44
* Tandyman100 checks		21:44
* Tandyman100 reboots his phone		21:45
Tandyman100	Launcherpro is the one that slides, right?	21:45
Tandyman100	like, the menubar at the bottom slides?	21:45
JesusFreak316	Yeah.	21:45
Tandyman100	'cos that REALLY annoyed me	21:45
Tandyman100	oh	21:45
JesusFreak316	Disable it then.	21:46
Tandyman100	'aight	21:46
JesusFreak316	How'd it annoy you?	21:46
Tandyman100	I didn't really look at the settings	21:46
Tandyman100	I'd try to push something, but I'd end up sliding the bar	21:46
Tandyman100	I have a VGA screen with a pixel density almost as great as the iphone 4	21:46
Tandyman100	thus, a REALLY SMALL VGA screen	21:46
JesusFreak316	Isn't it great.	21:46
JesusFreak316	Pixel density not size.	21:47
Tandyman100	argh	21:47
Tandyman100	GenY is throwing up errors	21:47
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Tandyman100	save me taskfacade	21:47
AndChat-	What errors?	21:47
Tandyman100	I have the frx02 build downloaded	21:47
Tandyman100	but I don't think it's installed	21:47
Tandyman100	AndChat-, i'll tell you in a minute here	21:48
Tandyman100	I have relese 1.6 on my phone right now	21:48
AndChat-	Donut? WHY?	21:48
Tandyman100	no	21:49
Tandyman100	release 1.6 OF Android 2.2	21:49
Tandyman100	xdandroid	21:49
TheDeadCPU	oh lol	21:49
Tandyman100	"XDAndroid 2.2 (rel 1.6)"	21:50
AndChat-	Hahaha	21:50
AndChat-	Oh	21:51
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Tandyman100	Ok to update it, I just take the latest rootfs and image and copy them over the ones I have?	21:52
AndChat-	Yes.	21:52
Tandyman100	wait	21:52
Tandyman100	what do I download?	21:52
Tandyman100	System	21:53
Tandyman100	or Bundles?	21:53
* Tandyman100 assumes System		21:53
AndChat-	Yes.	21:53
Tandyman100	wait	21:53
Tandyman100	what do I do with this .ex2 file?	21:53
AndChat-	First, rename data.img to datar.img or something.	21:54
Tandyman100	done	21:54
AndChat-	Extract rootfs.img and replace the old one. Ditto with zImage and modules.	21:55
Tandyman100	whuh	21:55
AndChat-	Delete the old modules file though; they all have different names.	21:55
Tandyman100	all I downloaded was "system-FRX02.ext2.zip"	21:55
AndChat-	Oh.	21:55
AndChat-	:)	21:55
Tandyman100	wrong thing?	21:55
AndChat-	Nah.	21:56
AndChat-	Just extract system.ext2 and replace the old one.	21:56
Tandyman100	extract it with what?	21:56
Tandyman100	7zip can't handle it...	21:56
Tandyman100	OH	21:56
Tandyman100	OH	21:56
Tandyman100	the old system.ex2	21:56
Tandyman100	DERP	21:56
Tandyman100	HERP	21:56
Tandyman100	that's all that's needed?	21:57
AndChat-	Almost	21:57
TheDeadCPU	DURP	21:57
Tandyman100	What else do I need to do?	21:57
AndChat-	Since you renamed data.img it will create a new one on boot and you will have essentially hard reset android.	21:57
AndChat-	We renamed the old you so you don't have to delete it and can go back to it.	21:58
Tandyman100	I already did that	21:58
Tandyman100	:D	21:58
Tandyman100	Gee, I'm not _that_ dumb :P	21:58
AndChat-	You should always use a fresh data.img with a new system.ext2.	21:58
Tandyman100	oh	21:59
Tandyman100	so I name it back	21:59
AndChat-	True.	21:59
AndChat-	No.	21:59
Tandyman100	...	21:59
Tandyman100	so my current data.img stays as data.img.old, and a new one gets written?	21:59
Tandyman100	then what do I do with this one?	21:59
AndChat-	Did you have anything you wanted to back up in android?	21:59
* Tandyman100 thinks		21:59
Tandyman100	no	21:59
AndChat-	Then you can delete the old one.	22:00
* Tandyman100 deletes data.img.old		22:00
Tandyman100	Ok. Time to boot :D	22:00
AndChat-	Boot.	22:00
Tandyman100	Looks like it's making a new data.img...	22:01
Tandyman100	I love the scrolling text at the beginning	22:01
Tandyman100	It's like a console	22:01
AndChat-	Yep	22:01
Tandyman100	Someone saw that and was like "LOL UR HACKIN' UR PHONE LOLOLOOLLOL"	22:01
Tandyman100	stereotypical hacker scrolling text on a console type thing :)	22:02
Tandyman100	Linux, ya gotta love it	22:02
AndChat-	Sigh, high school.	22:02
AndChat-	Windows and mac have consoles...	22:02
Tandyman100	How hard would it be to get text-mode-only Debian running on a Touch Pro?	22:02
AndChat-	Why when you can get fully working Ubuntu?	22:03
Tandyman100	Would you be able to port drivers from xdandroid to debian?	22:03
Tandyman100	Because it's smaller ^_^	22:03
Tandyman100	And a DE is a bit... resource intensive	22:03
Tandyman100	i wanna install apache on my PHONE	22:03
Tandyman100	}:A	22:03
AndChat-	Idk, I'm not much of a dev. I just know how to use a command line.	22:03
Tandyman100	Ah	22:03
AndChat-	You can just ctrl-alt-2 to get a standard console.	22:04
Tandyman100	Bash?	22:05
AndChat-	Yeah, sure.	22:05
Tandyman100	bash and apt-get for android would be AWESOME	22:05
AndChat-	I know.	22:05
Tandyman100	hmm	22:05
AndChat-	You can download a terminal emulator in android though.	22:06
Tandyman100	doesn't look like this build has the regular launcher instead of launcherpro	22:06
AndChat-	No apt-get though.	22:06
AndChat-	That's a good thing.	22:06
Tandyman100	And it didn't require calibration when i booted	22:06
AndChat-	Regular launcher sucks for our phones.	22:06
Tandyman100	no	22:07
Tandyman100	this build DOES NOT have launcherpro	22:07
Tandyman100	...	22:07
Tandyman100	this is the same build	22:07
AndChat-	Ok, then download it.	22:07
Tandyman100	all the buttons are still screwed up	22:07
Tandyman100	FRX02, right?	22:07
TheDeadCPU	What buttons are screwed up?	22:07
Tandyman100	That's the system.ext I'm using	22:07
Tandyman100	home is menu, power is home, and menu is back	22:08
Tandyman100	or something like that	22:08
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AndChat-	Nah, that's the new rootfs and zImage that fixes that.	22:08
Tandyman100	And where do i get THOSE?	22:09
Tandyman100	Hello again, me	22:09
Tandyman100	:P	22:09
JesusFreak316	http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Known_Survival_Multiplayer_Issues#Portals_2	22:09
JesusFreak316	Whoops, wrong link. :P	22:09
JesusFreak316	http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2	22:09
TheDeadCPU	JesusFreak316, minecraft<3	22:09
JesusFreak316	is zImage.	22:09
JesusFreak316	http://xdandroid.southcape.org/rootfs/ is rootfs.	22:10
JesusFreak316	The DeadCPU, yep. :)	22:10
Tandyman100	woah, 2.4MB for zimage?	22:10
JesusFreak316	Yeah, so?	22:10
JesusFreak316	It's the kernel and drivers.	22:11
Tandyman100	smaller than I expected :D	22:11
TheDeadCPU	JesusFreak316, Me and some friends have a nice SMP server :D	22:12
TheDeadCPU	Though it's Norwegians only :p	22:12
Tandyman100	so now I copy rootfs.img and zimage into the root of my storage card and I'm good?	22:12
Tandyman100	cool	22:12
JesusFreak316	They need to be renamed exactly.	22:13
Tandyman100	ok	22:13
JesusFreak316	zImage (no extension) rootfs.img and the modules file which is always different.	22:13
Tandyman100	modules files?	22:13
Tandyman100	aah	22:13
TheDeadCPU	Modules does not need renaming	22:13
Tandyman100	hmm	22:14
JesusFreak316	It's inside the zImage archive.	22:14
Tandyman100	Gen. Y is being odd	22:14
Tandyman100	I see thme	22:14
JesusFreak316	Since they don't need renaming you have to manually delete the old one as it won't be overwritten.	22:14
Tandyman100	"Basic4ppc" "An error occurred on sub __main_app_start." An error occured retrieving the registry key, Continue?"	22:14
Tandyman100	...	22:14
Tandyman100	bloody geny	22:15
Tandyman100	gen. y*	22:15
JesusFreak316	Where do you have your files?	22:15
JesusFreak316	root of sd, andboot folder?	22:15
Tandyman100	rood of sd	22:15
Tandyman100	and I installed the 'storage card' cab	22:15
JesusFreak316	Reinstall?	22:15
Tandyman100	no change	22:15
Tandyman100	I've tried that	22:15
Tandyman100	registry editor shows that everything's just peachy	22:15
JesusFreak316	Huh, that's an odd error.	22:15
TheDeadCPU	Ah that one.	22:16
TheDeadCPU	Are you running EnergyROM ?	22:16
Tandyman100	Yeah	22:17
Tandyman100	lemme guess: I'm screwed	22:17
TheDeadCPU	There's your problem.	22:17
TheDeadCPU	I NEVER got the dualboot app to work on EnergyROM	22:17
AndChat-	I'm running Energy.	22:17
AndChat-	Works for me.	22:18
Tandyman100	ok with modules	22:18
Tandyman100	right now i have "modules-2.6.27.46-01162-g741ab49.tar"	22:18
Tandyman100	I need to rename the other .tar to that and replace the old one?	22:18
AndChat-	No.	22:19
AndChat-	Just delete the old one	22:19
Tandyman100	oh ok	22:19
Tandyman100	TheDeadCPU, what ROM do you use now?	22:19
* Tandyman100 boots android		22:20
TheDeadCPU	I use EnergyROM.	22:20
TheDeadCPU	Though I don't use my Touch Pro	22:20
TheDeadCPU	I use the iPhone atm. until I get that damned Desire Z.	22:21
Tandyman100	eww iPhone	22:21
Tandyman100	Why "that damned"?	22:21
TheDeadCPU	Because they just keep delaying it.	22:21
TheDeadCPU	I was supposed to get it the 5october.	22:22
TheDeadCPU	5th*	22:22
Tandyman100	Oh	22:22
Tandyman100	yay!	22:22
Tandyman100	the buttons work now!	22:22
Tandyman100	man	22:22
Tandyman100	the marketplace is so cluttered I can't find launcherpro	22:23
Tandyman100	:(	22:23
Tandyman100	wow this build is FAST	22:25
Tandyman100	...but wifi isn't working	22:26
Tandyman100	RATS	22:26
AndChat-	You having that issue too?	22:27
AndChat-	A lot of people are saying that.	22:28
Tandyman100	Oh, no	22:29
Tandyman100	so there isn't a fix?	22:29
Tandyman100	And i have to go BACK to the older version i was just using?	22:29
Tandyman100	OR can I use the old modules package with the new build?	22:30
JesusFreak316	I don't know which one.	22:32
Tandyman100	The one that I was just using that worked	22:34
Tandyman100	can I rename it to the same name as the new one and use that?	22:34
JesusFreak316	Yeah, but there might be a newer one that works also.	22:36
Tandyman100	meh, I'll try that for now	22:38
JesusFreak316	Hmm, idk.	22:40
JesusFreak316	Wifi works for me but it keeps not seeing my sdcard.	22:40
Tandyman100	hmm	22:40
TheDeadCPU	JesusFreak316, I actually go to church if you didn't know. Though I do it because it's tradition.	22:41
Tandyman100	..that was random	22:42
TheDeadCPU	Mostly just due to the respect I have for my Christian family though.	22:42
Tandyman100	I go to church, too, while we're sharing. Methodist. It's my only social life :)	22:42
TheDeadCPU	Tandyman100, We've discussed religion here a few times lol	22:42
JesusFreak316	Good, but I don't place that much importance on church. God doesn't let people into Heaven for church attendance.	22:42
Tandyman100	ah	22:42
JesusFreak316	But lets not do this again. ;)	22:42
TheDeadCPU	JesusFreak316, true :p	22:42
Tandyman100	lol	22:42
Tandyman100	yeah	22:42
JesusFreak316	If you ever want to discuss it really again pm not this channel.	22:43
TheDeadCPU	lol, true.	22:43
JesusFreak316	TheDeadCPU, you have any issues with Wifi lately?	22:44
TheDeadCPU	Nope	22:44
TheDeadCPU	Not on my Touch Pro :p	22:44
Tandyman100	Ok, looks like the old modules is back in place...	22:44
* Tandyman100 boots		22:44
JesusFreak316	You see the last couple pages of the thread?	22:44
TheDeadCPU	Nope.	22:44
TheDeadCPU	I don't dare.	22:44
TheDeadCPU	A few to many noobs imo.	22:44
Tandyman100	what?	22:45
JesusFreak316	R^72 and Captain Throwback are the 2 most reputable people who are having issues.	22:45
JesusFreak316	I had the issue once.	22:45
JesusFreak316	Sd unmounting is more annoying to me.	22:45
Tandyman100	I lol'd at your post at the end of the xdandroid forum	22:46
Tandyman100	what a noob	22:46
TheDeadCPU	R^71 and Captain_Throwback aren't noobs though lol	22:46
JesusFreak316	Yeah, it's called google.	22:46
JesusFreak316	That's what I mean.	22:46
JesusFreak316	It's not just some noob issue.	22:46
JesusFreak316	CT's a frikin' senior moderator.	22:46
TheDeadCPU	Yea. But I've stopped checking the thread due to all the noobs.	22:46
TheDeadCPU	CT is black.	22:46
JesusFreak316	What, do they taint you?	22:46
TheDeadCPU	It's cool.	22:47
JesusFreak316	He's black; cool story bro.	22:47
TheDeadCPU	No. They make me angry.	22:47
JesusFreak316	:)	22:47
TheDeadCPU	And I'm not like arrrghhh I can't go around bashing them since I'm a moderator on XDA.	22:47
Tandyman100	uh oh	22:47
JesusFreak316	Oh yeah, you're a mod for the unused devices. :P	22:48
Tandyman100	it appears to've frozen when i tapped wifi settings...	22:48
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Tandyman100	and I'm talking about Sherri1203	22:48
JesusFreak316	Meh, I haven't heard that issue for a WHILE.	22:48
Tandyman100	lol	22:48
R^7Z	Greetings and salutations	22:48
Tandyman100	speak of the devil	22:48
TheDeadCPU	JesusFreak316, no I'm not ;)	22:48
Tandyman100	Of course, I'm having all the issues noone does	22:48
JesusFreak316	Just talking about you and the wifi error.	22:48
R^7Z	Got that issue fixed btw	22:48
TheDeadCPU	I've got the Nexus One and the Legend. Both quite popular devices.	22:49
JesusFreak316	How?	22:49
R^7Z	:D	22:49
R^7Z	rool back to 23	22:49
JesusFreak316	You're a moderator for the N1 now?	22:49
JesusFreak316	Never mind. :)	22:49
R^7Z	htc-msm-linux @ 20101023_021801	22:49
JesusFreak316	Try that file Tandyman100	22:49
R^7Z	That one works and amazingly it enables bt	22:49
JesusFreak316	Did you post that on the thread R^72?	22:49
* R^7Z thinks		22:50
Tandyman100	Where do I get that file?	22:50
TheDeadCPU	..	22:50
JesusFreak316	Same place as the zImage earlier.	22:50
Tandyman100	oh	22:50
JesusFreak316	It's just older.	22:51
Tandyman100	Have you ever herped so hard you derped? 'cos I just did	22:51
JesusFreak316	My friend asked me the same thing earlier today. :)	22:51
R^7Z	I sure did! me linky... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9053822#post9053822	22:51
JesusFreak316	Good.	22:51
* R^7Z pats head		22:51
R^7Z	:P	22:52
* JesusFreak316 pats R^72's head.		22:52
* Tandyman100 pats Tandyman100's head		22:52
* JesusFreak316 rubs R^72's tummy.		22:52
* Tandyman100 rubs tummy and pats head		22:52
* R^7Z meows?		22:52
R^7Z	LMAO	22:52
Tandyman100	lol	22:52
R^7Z	I got a good one (questions)	22:53
JesusFreak316	No, you're supposed to kick your leg like a golden retreiver.	22:53
R^7Z	I wonder when the heck is reef gunna update his freakin blazin build?	22:53
JesusFreak316	Ditto.	22:53
R^7Z	dude... that was a sick build	22:53
JesusFreak316	I never tried it.	22:54
R^7Z	i even liked the theme!!!	22:54
R^7Z	black bar	22:54
Tandyman100	So now I just delete my old modules and my old zimage, and drag these in there?	22:54
R^7Z	transparent when drawn	22:54
R^7Z	yuppers!	22:54
* Tandyman100 googles blazin		22:54
R^7Z	extract them!	22:54
R^7Z	do not 4get to do that...	22:54
Tandyman100	I obviously got them out of the tar first :P	22:54
R^7Z	yup yup yup!	22:54
R^7Z	you smart! ;)	22:55
R^7Z	google blazin	22:55
R^7Z	used to work	22:55
R^7Z	wtf?	22:55
JesusFreak316	blazn actually	22:55
R^7Z	that too	22:55
Tandyman100	oh	22:55
R^7Z	google: RAR - Android v2.2 Froyo: BLAZN	22:56
JesusFreak316	http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/downloads	22:56
R^7Z	maybe not?	22:56
JesusFreak316	:)	22:56
R^7Z	someone must've disabled it	22:56
JesusFreak316	arrrghhh hates me for linking and not letting people google stuff.	22:56
R^7Z	meh, hes got nuff issues	22:57
JesusFreak316	Blazn is themed btw..	22:57
R^7Z	:D	22:57
Tandyman100	blazn theme looks cool	22:57
Tandyman100	I like the black	22:57
R^7Z	its biytchn	22:57
R^7Z	oops	22:57
R^7Z	lemme try that one again	22:57
R^7Z	bytchn	22:57
R^7Z	:D	22:57
Tandyman100	lol	22:58
TheDeadCPU	Hello R^7Z.	22:58
* R^7Z goes to sleep		22:59
*** R^7Z is now known as R^7Z_asleep		22:59
R^7Z_asleep	LOLz	22:59
*** R^7Z_asleep is now known as R^7Z		22:59
R^7Z	sup TDC	22:59
JesusFreak316	arrrghhh mentioned there is a qualcomm guy helping. Does anyone know who he is?	23:00
* R^7Z has no freakin idea		23:00
JesusFreak316	http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9051681&postcount=10552	23:00
* R^7Z has to get a clue one day		23:00
TheDeadCPU	IT'S NOT ME	23:00
JesusFreak316	Thanks.	23:00
JesusFreak316	:P	23:00
Tandyman100	failed to load storage card, zimage	23:00
Tandyman100	owait	23:00
Tandyman100	I didn't rename it	23:00
* Tandyman100 facepalms		23:00
TheDeadCPU	Also, did you know we once got a donation from a .gov mail address?	23:00
JesusFreak316	He said dev anyways. :)	23:00
R^7Z	fail!	23:00
JesusFreak316	I remember that.	23:01
JesusFreak316	haha	23:01
JesusFreak316	XDANDROID Stimuls ftw!	23:01
Tandyman100	THERE WE GO	23:01
Tandyman100	Now it's booting	23:01
R^7Z	sweet!	23:01
Tandyman100	after your typical Tandymanfail	23:01
R^7Z	^_^	23:01
JesusFreak316	You deleted the old modules right?	23:01
Tandyman100	yeah	23:01
Tandyman100	it's booting just fine	23:01
JesusFreak316	It will still boot if you have more than one it just will use the old one.	23:02
Tandyman100	I just have the one	23:02
R^7Z	@TDC I wouldn't be surprised if BB (bigBrother) is eyeing this chan	23:02
JesusFreak316	Ah, ok.	23:02
TheDeadCPU	Really?	23:02
Tandyman100	why would he be?	23:02
JesusFreak316	Uh, why would they care about this?	23:02
R^7Z	;)	23:02
TheDeadCPU	HEY! US GOV! I hate you. What you gonna do about it?	23:03
R^7Z	it's all a conspiracy (spell fail)	23:03
Tandyman100	haha	23:03
R^7Z	HA!	23:03
JesusFreak316	I just joined #pot-smokers. No one's there. :(	23:03
* R^7Z thinks they know this already		23:03
JesusFreak316	Trying to think of a channel name they might be watching.	23:03
R^7Z	epic fail in cali	23:03
R^7Z	HA!	23:03
Tandyman100	yay!	23:03
Tandyman100	it works!!!!	23:03
TheDeadCPU	#FBI	23:04
R^7Z	sweetness!	23:04
JesusFreak316	No one in #assassinate-obama either. :P	23:04
R^7Z	setup gMail and other stuff and n-Joie!	23:04
R^7Z	HA! @ass + ass together	23:04
JesusFreak316	That's how you spell it...	23:04
R^7Z	that worries me for some reason	23:05
R^7Z	i kno... just pickin	23:05
TheDeadCPU	#google	23:05
R^7Z	I wonder who in their mind came up with that word	23:05
TheDeadCPU	#pickles	23:05
JesusFreak316	Middle school boy.	23:05
R^7Z	prolly	23:05
TheDeadCPU	#penis	23:06
R^7Z	fail!!!	23:06
R^7Z	lmao	23:06
JesusFreak316	Not trying that one.	23:06
JesusFreak316	:)	23:06
TheDeadCPU	#police	23:06
R^7Z	I'd #vagina before that one	23:06
TheDeadCPU	brb, dog made a weird sound	23:06
R^7Z	;)	23:06
Tandyman100	<TheDeadCPU> wow	23:07
Tandyman100	<TheDeadCPU> this chan is registered	23:07
Tandyman100	* TheDeadCPU gets the hell out of here	23:07
Tandyman100	* TheDeadCPU (~joachim@ti0064a380-1897.bb.online.no) has left #FBI ("Leaving")	23:07
R^7Z	HA!	23:07
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R^7Z	ugh!	23:08
R^7Z	hes back!	23:08
* R^7Z leaves		23:08
TheDeadCPU	Hey arrrghhhTP2	23:08
*** R^7Z is now known as R^7Z_has_left_th		23:08
R^7Z_has_left_th	crap	23:08
arrrghhhTP2	Wassup	23:08
* R^7Z_has_left_th fails		23:08
arrrghhhTP2	Seriously.	23:08
*** R^7Z_has_left_th is now known as R^7Z		23:09
* Tandyman100 has left the building		23:09
R^7Z	not much at the moment	23:09
Tandyman100	:P	23:09
TheDeadCPU	I get worried when my dog makes weird noises. Seeing as we've recently removed a 6kilo tumor from her.	23:09
Tandyman100	I just got android working. latest build	23:09
Tandyman100	TheDeadCPU, wow	23:09
R^7Z	just stomping on toes and flickin hoes!	23:09
R^7Z	:p	23:09
JesusFreak316	That sucks.	23:09
TheDeadCPU	Yea.	23:09
JesusFreak316	My cat died of cancer.	23:09
JesusFreak316	He was actually more of a dog than a cat which was a good thing.	23:10
* JesusFreak316 reminisces.		23:10
Tandyman100	wait wut	23:10
TheDeadCPU	Had to remove her Spleen.	23:10
R^7Z	/me is now AFS (away from screen)	23:10
Tandyman100	My cat was more of a dog than a cat	23:10
Tandyman100	.............	23:10
JesusFreak316	You said a 6 kilo tumor.	23:10
R^7Z	wow, that was a huges fail	23:10
TheDeadCPU	Cats can be trained to act just like dogs lol.	23:10
R^7Z	huge*	23:10
JesusFreak316	Spleen's aren't tumors.	23:10
JesusFreak316	No, I mean he was nice like a dog.	23:10
TheDeadCPU	JesusFreak316, yes. There was a 6 kilo tumor on her spleen.	23:10
R^7Z	are tumors spleen's?	23:11
JesusFreak316	OHHHHHH.	23:11
TheDeadCPU	So we removed the Spleen and the Tumor ;)	23:11
R^7Z	2 for 1 deal?	23:11
TheDeadCPU	lol	23:11
JesusFreak316	Yum.	23:11
R^7Z	lucky your dog not in China	23:11
R^7Z	:S	23:11
TheDeadCPU	It's a big breed anyways.	23:12
R^7Z	lots of meat?	23:12
TheDeadCPU	They're 45-50 kilo on average.	23:12
R^7Z	:/	23:12
TheDeadCPU	Well. Maybe.	23:12
R^7Z	k	23:12
JesusFreak316	What breed?	23:12
TheDeadCPU	It's a Rhodesian Ridgeback (aka African Liondog)	23:12
JesusFreak316	Ah, that explained nothing.	23:12
TheDeadCPU	It's badass.	23:12
JesusFreak316	:)	23:12
JesusFreak316	I like golden retreivers.	23:12
JesusFreak316	ALOT	23:13
TheDeadCPU	http://lakenskrekk.vgb.no/files/2009/03/rhodesian_ridgeback332x_1191990677500.jpg	23:13
TheDeadCPU	Those dogs are epic ++	23:13
JesusFreak316	It just looks big.	23:13
TheDeadCPU	They can run 40miles in one run at 40km/h	23:13
JesusFreak316	O.o	23:13
TheDeadCPU	They're so badass.	23:13
Tandyman100	<TheDeadCPU> It's a big breed anyways.	23:14
Tandyman100	<R^7Z> lots of meat?	23:14
Tandyman100	DON"T	23:14
JesusFreak316	See, I don't want a badass dog, I want a huggable one. Hence the golden retreiver.	23:14
TheDeadCPU	I've had mine in 45km/h on the side of my snowmobile in 1meter deep loose snow.	23:14
Tandyman100	EAT	23:14
Tandyman100	THE DOG	23:14
R^7Z	HA!	23:14
TheDeadCPU	JesusFreak316, this one is VERY huggable.	23:14
Tandyman100	I agree, I love golden retrievers and labs	23:14
Tandyman100	I hate tiny little rat-dogs	23:14
JesusFreak316	Ok, good.	23:14
R^7Z	Not even in China?	23:14
TheDeadCPU	It's the most huggable dog I've had.	23:14
TheDeadCPU	I want a Labradoodle though.	23:14
JesusFreak316	Well then I approve.	23:14
R^7Z	errrm	23:15
R^7Z	labradoodle?	23:15
TheDeadCPU	Mix between labrador and poodle.	23:15
JesusFreak316	Labrador poodle.	23:15
R^7Z	a lab and a poodle too much for ya?	23:15
JesusFreak316	GAH, Ninja'd AGAIN.	23:15
R^7Z	yea, i got that	23:15
TheDeadCPU	http://www.askspikeonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/labradoodle1.jpg?w=124	23:15
JesusFreak316	Dawwww.	23:15
TheDeadCPU	They're so cute.	23:15
R^7Z	bleh	23:15
JesusFreak316	http://www.peoplepets.com/news/cute/red-rain-boots-make-clive-one-mod-mini-pig/1	23:16
TheDeadCPU	awwwwwwww	23:17
R^7Z	here ya go	23:17
R^7Z	http://www.spells-spells-spells.com/images/kittens/cute-furry-fluffball-pet-img80.jpg	23:17
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JesusFreak316	http://cuteoverload.com/	23:17
R^7Z	lmao	23:17
R^7Z	google cute and furry	23:18
Tandyman100	make sure safesearch is on	23:18
Tandyman100	O_o	23:18
arrrghhh	the qualcomm guy is wistilt2. he just has docs from qualcomm because he purchased some msm 7200 chips for some 3g radio stuff he's doing for customers. so qualcomm gave him the specs :D	23:18
JesusFreak316	It is a personal policy never to google anything with furry in the title.	23:18
JesusFreak316	Ah.	23:18
arrrghhh	dude writes his own firmware for radios	23:18
JesusFreak316	Thanks arrrghhh.	23:18
JesusFreak316	He HAS been helpful.	23:18
arrrghhh	has a p2p wireless company where he runs his own custom firmware.	23:18
TheDeadCPU	Here is MY dog http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v371/87/98/1582713076/n1582713076_43447_7435.jpg	23:18
arrrghhh	dude's been an asset. he did the autobl stuff all by his lonesome.	23:19
arrrghhh	well, him and his team of dev slaves :P	23:19
R^7Z	gotta luv them slaves	23:19
JesusFreak316	Which he claims is just him. Yeah, sure.	23:19
R^7Z	well... would you? ;)	23:19
R^7Z	:p	23:19
JesusFreak316	OMG, cute overload is soo descriptive for this website.	23:19
TheDeadCPU	Do NOT say slave if Captain_Throwback appears.	23:20
arrrghhh	he owns the business	23:20
JesusFreak316	I was like huh, then oh yeah. lol	23:20
arrrghhh	he can tell his code monkeys what he wants them to coe :P	23:20
* R^7Z eyes the list to the right		23:20
arrrghhh	s/coe/code/	23:20
JesusFreak316	Does CT ever come on here?	23:20
arrrghhh	ct?	23:20
TheDeadCPU	CT doesn't IRC afaik	23:20
TheDeadCPU	Captain:Throwback	23:21
TheDeadCPU	lol : fail	23:21
arrrghhh	oh	23:21
JesusFreak316	Too lazy.	23:21
arrrghhh	never saw him.	23:21
R^7Z	uh ohes! theres a rogue agent in here!!!	23:21
arrrghhh	on irc	23:21
R^7Z	:S	23:21
JesusFreak316	Already have enough long names in here.	23:21
arrrghhh	lol	23:21
* Tandyman100 downloads launcherpro		23:21
R^7Z	oh! and a programmer too!	23:21
R^7Z	yikes!	23:21
JesusFreak316	Just now downloading that? Fail.	23:21
TheDeadCPU	and xdandroid is in here	23:21
JesusFreak316	bot.	23:21
R^7Z	lions and tires and bears!!!	23:21
TheDeadCPU	AND FBI	23:21
Tandyman100	I just now got it booted	23:22
R^7Z	tigers*	23:22
TheDeadCPU	JesusFreak316, durr	23:22
R^7Z	fail!	23:22
JesusFreak316	derp.	23:22
arrrghhh	tires?	23:22
R^7Z	>_>	23:22
R^7Z	yes! tires too!	23:22
R^7Z	lmao	23:22
* JesusFreak316 is enjoying cuteoverload.com waaaay too much.		23:22
R^7Z	just walk away	23:22
Tandyman100	lol	23:22
* R^7Z walks away		23:22
TheDeadCPU	Nobody commented the picture of my dog :(	23:22
R^7Z	TDC	23:22
JesusFreak316	He was cute.	23:22
R^7Z	decent looking btw	23:23
Tandyman100	YOUR DOG IS CUTE THAR	23:23
R^7Z	<_<	23:23
R^7Z	lol	23:23
JesusFreak316	But not like this. http://cuteoverload.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/morsel.jpg?w=560&h=348	23:23
* R^7Z sighs		23:23
TheDeadCPU	YAY	23:23
R^7Z	V_V	23:23
JesusFreak316	Ewok 100%	23:23
R^7Z	must... resist... the clicking... of... links.....	23:24
R^7Z	eeeerrrr.....	23:24
* R^7Z explodes		23:24
TheDeadCPU	This is cuter: http://boobs.sorkmos.com/	23:25
arrrghhh	man	23:25
arrrghhh	i need some help with xdandroid	23:25
TheDeadCPU	Wait what	23:25
JesusFreak316	See, the DeadCPU, I know not to click your links without checking. :)	23:25
TheDeadCPU	You're asking questions?	23:25
R^7Z	good call!	23:25
arrrghhh	yea, the camera doesn't work.	23:25
arrrghhh	what's up with that?	23:25
TheDeadCPU	Who is supposed to bash your questions then?	23:25
R^7Z	lmao	23:25
arrrghhh	i filed a bug, why isn't it fixed?	23:25
R^7Z	well you see	23:25
R^7Z	once upon a time	23:26
TheDeadCPU	JesusFreak316, it's not that bad. Just a LOT of hot bewbs.	23:26
arrrghhh	i donated like $10	23:26
arrrghhh	A LOT	23:26
R^7Z	nice!	23:26
arrrghhh	gif bewbs too	23:26
R^7Z	i wish i had 10 ducks	23:26
JesusFreak316	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN7YWz2RqH8&feature=player_embedded is better.	23:26
arrrghhh	so they move in a repeated manner.	23:26
R^7Z	wow!	23:28
R^7Z	it got quite	23:28
TheDeadCPU	That's so cute.	23:28
R^7Z	quiet	23:28
TheDeadCPU	And people say Bulldogs are ugly.	23:29
TheDeadCPU	But I prefer this though JesusFreak316 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ODAAl_ZXf8	23:29
JesusFreak316	Metalheads...	23:30
TheDeadCPU	:D	23:30
TheDeadCPU	Though I do like me some Blues too.	23:30
arrrghhh	yea	23:30
arrrghhh	heard the new Black Keys album?	23:30
TheDeadCPU	lol #jail	23:30
arrrghhh	awesome stuff.	23:30
R^7Z	If only I could do this once a week... http://www.4shared.com/video/sMRsepvR/My_Morning_Run.htm	23:32
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xdandroid	New XDAndroid Releases bug 52 filed...	23:33
xdandroid	Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=52 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Sound stutters in the media about every 10 seconds	23:33
arrrghhh	hrm	23:33
Tandyman100	odd	23:33
arrrghhh	stupid DIAM	23:34
arrrghhh	get a newer phone.	23:34
R^7Z	check to see how far they OC'd	23:34
arrrghhh	stupid htc. i need a newer phone :(	23:34
R^7Z	we ALL do!	23:34
arrrghhh	i saw some junk about the new kernels	23:34
arrrghhh	wifi	23:34
Tandyman100	What's wrong with the phone you have?	23:34
arrrghhh	sound	23:34
arrrghhh	htc is stupid	23:34
Tandyman100	I wouldn't mind an HD2 myself :P	23:34
Tandyman100	What's better than htc?	23:34
arrrghhh	and paired a brillant keyboard with crappy old internals.	23:34
R^7Z	moto?	23:35
R^7Z	:p	23:35
R^7Z	j/k	23:35
Tandyman100	oh god no	23:35
R^7Z	HA!	23:35
arrrghhh	i want hd2 internals with the tp2 keyboard/tilt screen.	23:35
arrrghhh	perfect.	23:35
R^7Z	evo?	23:35
R^7Z	o wait	23:35
arrrghhh	no kbd	23:35
R^7Z	no kb	23:35
arrrghhh	epic no either	23:35
R^7Z	crap	23:35
Tandyman100	lol	23:35
arrrghhh	i held one @ the sprint store. felt cheap compared to my tp2.	23:35
arrrghhh	didnt look cheap tho	23:35
Tandyman100	hmm	23:35
arrrghhh	screen was brilliant.	23:35
R^7Z	no shit	23:35
R^7Z	lol	23:35
arrrghhh	but it was SO light	23:36
arrrghhh	y'know the ps3 controllers w/o the dualshock?	23:36
R^7Z	yeah... ever held the new at&t htc, arora (I think)	23:36
arrrghhh	those controllers felt so "cheap"... the weight of those vibe motors lol	23:36
arrrghhh	nope.	23:36
Tandyman100	yeah	23:36
R^7Z	i bet it wouldn't have any weight to it	23:36
R^7Z	thing is soo tiny!	23:37
R^7Z	I'd probably break it by looking at it... (j/k)	23:37
R^7Z	aria*	23:38
R^7Z	spell fail	23:38
R^7Z	meh...	23:38
R^7Z	one of these days someone will create a phone as small and thin as a CC	23:39
Tandyman100	Ok, I'm trying to find a cool dark abstract-ish background for my android, and a dark skin for launcher pro	23:39
Tandyman100	ideas?	23:39
arrrghhh	they already have flexible screens that thin	23:39
arrrghhh	thinner even	23:39
arrrghhh	blazn	23:40
R^7Z	yeah... still waitin on that... reef must be hella busy these days	23:41
arrrghhh	eh. galaxy S :P he's moved on.	23:41
Tandyman100	hey guys	23:42
Tandyman100	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCqEkzac-6M	23:42
Tandyman100	This is why i still use winmo sometime	23:42
R^7Z	and another one bytes the dust!	23:45
R^7Z	:p	23:45
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arrrghhh	ah well. g2g. cya guys.	23:45
TheDeadCPU	bye	23:45
R^7Z	peace out	23:45
Tandyman100	<R^7Z> and another one bytes the dust!	23:47
Tandyman100	what do you mean?	23:47
R^7Z	that was what was playing	23:47
Tandyman100	and buy arrrghhh	23:47
Tandyman100	oh, yeah	23:47
Tandyman100	Just to show that it doesn't stutter	23:47
R^7Z	That's kool...	23:48
R^7Z	He needs another cam... :P	23:49
Tandyman100	What's wrong with mine?	23:49
R^7Z	Oh thats you?	23:49
Tandyman100	Yeah	23:49
Tandyman100	lol	23:49
R^7Z	you were saying something about your cam wasn't focusing	23:49
Tandyman100	There's an article associated with that @ http://retro-box.net	23:50
Tandyman100	oh, yeah	23:50
Tandyman100	it's rubbish with focusing	23:50
Tandyman100	But it shoots HIGH DEFINITION WIDESCREEN 1080p	23:50
R^7Z	but not that close up?	23:50
R^7Z	so whos the dev for taskfacade?	23:51
R^7Z	nvm	23:52
R^7Z	reading forum	23:52
R^7Z	brb	23:52
Tandyman100	haha	23:52
R^7Z	looks kool tho... will definitly mention it for WinMo enthuthiasts	23:53
Tandyman100	link to this:	23:53
Tandyman100	http://retro-box.net/?p=10	23:53
Tandyman100	that's the article, the youtube video is embedded	23:53
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Tandyman100	...and launcher pro just crashed	23:54
Tandyman100	no	23:54
Tandyman100	the widgets crashed	23:54
R^7Z	eh?	23:55
Tandyman100	On my xdandroid phone	23:55
Tandyman100	the widgets just crashed somehow	23:55
R^7Z	yeah, it does that...	23:56
Tandyman100	they went bye-bye, screen froze, went blank	23:56
Tandyman100	it never happened before I got launcher pro	23:56
R^7Z	was that initial boot?	23:56
Tandyman100	no	23:56
Tandyman100	wait	23:56
R^7Z	hm	23:56
Tandyman100	I dunno if I've rebooted it or not	23:56
R^7Z	reboot and try install again... i have LP+ installed and works pretty solid	23:57
Tandyman100	k	23:58
Tandyman100	whee long boot time	23:58
Tandyman100	so what do you think of retro-box.net ?	23:58
R^7Z	yeah... unfortunately...	23:58
R^7Z	well it's a different layout	23:59
R^7Z	haven't piddled around in there long neough to get a sense of the enviroment	23:59
Tandyman100	ah	23:59
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