Sunday, 2010-11-07

Tandyman100they're dropping like flies...00:00
R^7Zfor some reason the link sin't working... strange... will have to do more thread reading... (sigh)00:00
R^7Zyeah... they do that from time to time00:00
Tandyman100what link?00:00
Tandyman100oh, the IRC link?00:00
R^7Zdownload link >>>> http://taskfacade.mybb3.org/general-discussion-f3.html <<<<00:00
R^7Zholy crap! 20th of september... wouldn't that be considered to be a dead thread?00:01
Tandyman100hmmm I don't know00:02
Tandyman100I'm considering mirroring EVERY PIECE of software I review00:02
Tandyman100just for archives sake00:02
R^7Zwill do some reading and post back here?00:03
Tandyman100I guess00:03
Tandyman100Post a comment perhaps?00:03
R^7ZLooks like someone else has picked up the project... will check on posts being made by that poster00:04
R^7ZNICE!!!00:06
Tandyman100ok00:06
Tandyman100What?00:06
R^7Zfound souce site00:06
Tandyman100valid download?00:06
R^7Zlinky to follow >>> http://sourceforge.net/projects/taskfacade/00:06
R^7Zdunno00:06
R^7Zfrom souceforge?00:07
R^7Ztrusted site?00:07
Tandyman100yeah00:07
R^7Zmust be legit then00:08
R^7Zbest to link from souce site for now then?00:08
Tandyman100updated00:09
R^7Zthread OP from thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7728481#post7728481 seems to be the person working on it?00:09
Tandyman100I guess..00:09
R^7Zany how... I00:09
R^7ZI00:09
R^7Z'crap00:09
R^7Zctupid enter key00:09
R^7ZI'll PM the thread OP00:10
Tandyman100lol00:10
Tandyman100I just updated the article with the sourceforge link00:10
Tandyman100Any ideas on new videos?00:10
Tandyman100I made one on XDAndroid, I'll upload it soon00:11
R^7Zthere are plenty00:11
R^7Zbut I'm sure there are plenty of features that are yet to be showcased?00:12
Tandyman100In what?00:15
R^7ZDunno, plently of apps and homescreen customizations, I guess?00:16
R^7Zsorry, kind of here and kind of half watching the bleach00:18
R^7ZBleach*00:18
Tandyman100lol00:18
Tandyman100Well, to review stuff like that I need something OUTSTANDING for winmo or android00:18
R^7Zmore or less free stuff (donation ware) though, right?00:19
R^7Zgoing to try taskfacade on my fuze00:25
Tandyman100yeah00:27
Tandyman100and cool00:27
Tandyman100I inspired someone :D00:27
R^7ZHA!00:28
R^7ZI'll give you that one... I like to try new things out00:28
R^7Zespecially if it'll help display apps that are running! sometimes they tend to run wild in my pocket00:28
R^7Zwhoa! that takes up alot of storage... not that i use many apps just noting its a heavy install...00:30
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Tandyman100yeah00:31
R^7Zstupid quicklink don't work... bleh I'll play around with it to see if I can get it to working...00:34
R^7Zhm... how does one call up the menu key if the app is full screen?00:36
R^7Zthere we go! tap in blank space00:36
Tandyman100^^00:37
Tandyman100I think I said that in the video00:37
R^7Zproblem is it starts out in full screen mode00:39
R^7Zyou can call up menu with tap but you wouldn't know that unless you watched the vid00:40
R^7Zand actually made the reference... but I usually figure things out on my own pretty much00:40
Tandyman100yeah00:41
Tandyman100go into settings and you can set it to NOT be fullscreen00:41
R^7Zgot that too00:42
Tandyman100what are some apps I should get for android?00:42
R^7Zthemes are pretty straight forward, most would want something "pretty"...00:42
Tandyman100I have no idea how to theme android00:42
R^7ZI'm the odd ball and don't really care about that00:42
R^7Zah yes00:43
R^7ZAndroid and themes00:43
Tandyman100damn00:43
Tandyman100this build of android is unstable00:43
R^7Zwhich one did you DL?00:43
Tandyman100the core has crashed multiple times now00:43
Tandyman100newest00:43
Tandyman100but with slightly older drivers00:43
R^7ZALSO have you updated rootfs?00:43
Tandyman100'cos the newest wifi driver is crap00:43
Tandyman100yes, I have the newest rootfs00:44
R^7Zreally? have you tried the kernel I mentioned? it worked for me00:44
Tandyman100which kernel?00:44
R^7Zhtc-msm-linux @ 20101023_02180100:44
Tandyman100yeah00:44
Tandyman100that one00:44
R^7Zhm... it works for Fuze00:44
R^7Zwhich device do you have?00:45
Tandyman100Touch Pro CDMA00:45
Tandyman100Raph80000:45
Tandyman100brb00:45
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Tandy|Phenomback00:48
R^7Zno clue as to how to fix the wifi00:49
Tandy|Phenomhmm?00:49
Tandy|Phenomoh00:49
Tandy|PhenomI'm just using a slightly older zimage and drivers00:49
Tandy|Phenomno biggie00:49
R^7ZI just know I was trying different kernels until it worked and I posted about my result in the thread00:49
R^7Zunfortunately, my extent of computers comes from personal knowledge00:50
Tandy|Phenomyeah00:50
R^7Zk, i'm heading to bed... preciate the link about the "new" app and the convo...00:56
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Tandy|PhenomHey, you guys know how you can basically make straight-on VOIP calls using Google Voice + the GMail chat thingie?01:58
Tandy|Phenomis there a way to do that in android? that is, make free calls from your phone over wifi without having phone service?01:58
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Tandyman100Good morning09:33
TheDeadCPUMornin'09:37
* Tandyman100 tries to figure out the wizardry of SIP09:38
Tandyman100So what's up?09:42
TheDeadCPUfiddling with Android on my Touch Pro.09:49
Tandyman100haha, same09:53
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Tandyman100Do you ever use the Winmo part of your phone? 'Cos this program is brilliant: http://retro-box.net/?p=1009:54
Tandyman100R^7Z downloaded it and installed it immediately XD09:55
TheDeadCPUHmm..09:55
TheDeadCPUThe touchscreen doesn't seem to respond after I've had the screen off..09:56
Tandyman100The touchscreen is really sluggish on my phone10:02
Tandyman100but I haven't had any lockups or anything after uninstalling launcherpro...10:02
F22i've noticed that too. my touchscreen seems rather unresponsive also upon waking up. It behaves like it's still groggy after being dragged out of bed and needs time to grab a cup of coffee before it's ready to go back to work.10:07
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TheDeadCPUI have to press the middle button (on my touch pro) to make it work again10:08
TheDeadCPUThat would be menu.10:08
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F22of course, now that i try to test it out, it works fine for me.... must have had it's coffee already this morning. :P10:11
Tandyman100I need some ANDROID COFFEH10:14
Tandyman100How hard would it be to port, say, Ubuntu 10.10 netbook remix to the Touch Pro?10:15
Tandyman100It has a fantastic interface for our devices...10:15
F22no idea, haven't looked into it. what makes the interface so fantastic?10:16
Tandyman100Well, it's got the best interface of the linux distros, and I would like to have a 'full' debian-based linux distro on our phones, such as maemo 510:17
Tandyman100Ubuntu 10.10 has millions of programs, a finger-friendly interface with kinetic scrolling10:18
F22i've never really done a scientific comparison of distro interfaces, and they seem to be moving targets. ubuntu is clearly the most popular however and has the widest support base.10:18
Tandyman100yeah10:18
Tandyman100I'm not a fan of ubuntu, but it has a decent interface10:19
Tandyman100http://www.bablotech.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/ubuntu-netbook-remix9.jpg10:21
F22in fact the reason why i installed unbuntu in the first place was because SynCE software was hopelessly broken on fedora at the time. (No idea if it's still broken) On ubuntu it worked fine.10:22
Tandyman100I perfer debian to ubuntu, mostly because its lighter, and I don't need all the 'help' provided by ubuntu.10:23
Tandyman100bbiab, breakfast time :D10:23
F22understandable, i've always had a warm spot in my heart for debian.10:23
F22enjoy your breakfast10:24
Tandyman100back10:39
Tandyman100One thing I've noticed: people can run Android on their unlocked iPhone. Fair enough, it runs. But it isn't usable, I don't think, because Android just doesn't WORK on something with only one physical button10:40
Tandyman100I sure can't navigate android with only one button10:40
xdandroidDonation received! Thanks, fabio pezzillo, who says: Buon lavoro!!!!!10:44
Tandyman100Cool!10:45
TheDeadCPUHmm. I just added my Gmail account and android crashed lol10:48
Tandyman100That isn't good.10:49
Tandyman100Hey, does anyone here have an older phone that will run Android for sale?10:49
Tandyman100perhaps a CDMA Touch (yes, original touch)?10:50
Tandyman100My friend has smartphone-envy10:50
TheDeadCPUSo you're talking about a Vogue?10:51
TheDeadCPUI'd say ask in #htc-linux if anyone has one :p10:52
Tandyman100Is that this server?10:52
TheDeadCPUYes,10:52
TheDeadCPUIt's on Freenode.10:53
Tandyman100Ok, cool.10:53
Tandyman100I'm there10:53
TheDeadCPUI can see.10:53
Tandyman100What on earth did Curious mean?10:56
TheDeadCPUI have no idea.10:57
Tandyman100O_o10:57
Tandyman100CRYPTIC10:57
TheDeadCPUHmm...10:57
TheDeadCPUHTC Fastboot would be so awesome on XDAndroid10:57
* Tandyman100 googles furiously10:58
Tandyman100wow, that's cool10:58
Tandyman100Two things XDAndroid needs:10:58
Tandyman100MOAR SPEED10:58
Tandyman100and Sense. I love sense.10:58
Tandyman100OR, alternate builds with sense.10:58
Tandyman100Pipe dream, mostly likely, but hey.10:58
TheDeadCPUlol10:59
TheDeadCPUThere is Sense Builds.10:59
TheDeadCPUBut they're quite slow.10:59
Tandyman100Orly?10:59
TheDeadCPUOh and they're 2.110:59
Tandyman100Oh. Darn11:00
Tandyman100So fastboot is basically hibernate mode... interesting11:00
TheDeadCPUYup11:00
TheDeadCPUhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=64777911:01
TheDeadCPUSense XDAndroid11:01
TheDeadCPUI'ma test it. Long time since I have.11:01
XirXeswould it work with the latest kernel you think?11:04
Tandyman100THAT would be interesting11:05
Tandyman100I'll download it and try it later, I need my phone working ATM so I can show it off :D11:05
XirXesi would still like to have sound with sense. i guess ill do some experimenting11:06
Tandyman100http://www.youtube.com/v/C3kBzSMkX5Y&hl=en_US&fs=1&11:08
Tandyman100looks decently fast11:08
TheDeadCPUI'm testing it in a few with latest zImage/rootfs11:08
Tandyman100Argh, I'm trying to figure out what to download O_o11:10
TheDeadCPUlol11:10
TheDeadCPUhttp://www.sendspace.com/file/qmkfbq11:10
TheDeadCPUThen this system.sqsh after that http://xda.duttonbiz.com/package_hero_rosie_07042010/system0704.sqsh11:10
Tandyman100ok11:11
TheDeadCPUThis is so old we're using .sqsh and not .ext2 :p11:11
Tandyman100There's, like, 8573974 different links there, and I'm not technical enough to make face or hiney of any of it11:11
TheDeadCPUlol11:11
XirXestheres a newer file than that11:11
XirXeshttp://xda.duttonbiz.com/package_hero_rosie_23042010/system2304.sqsh11:11
Tandyman100Oh really?11:12
* Tandyman100 downloads11:12
XirXesthats the newest one i found.11:12
Tandyman100Oh no it's a squashed file! ;)11:12
XirXesbooting now11:16
Tandyman100That was fast :o11:17
TheDeadCPU:p11:17
Tandyman100I won't be done downloading the files for another forty minutes11:17
Tandyman1001mb/s down...11:17
XirXesi just got a new isp the other day. rated at 20 mb/s i get 811:18
Tandyman100:/11:18
XirXesstill an improvement over what i had11:18
Tandyman100You guys seem the friendliest of any of the mobile-related channels here (is there a winmo channel..?) so I guess I'll just ask you guys:11:18
Tandyman100what is a 'rom kitchen'?11:18
TheDeadCPUIt's what you use to make a rom.11:19
XirXesbasically a tool for compiling a rom out of the base packages11:19
Tandyman100Ok...11:19
Tandyman100I sort of follow11:19
XirXesi used to cook a rom for the opal till i got rid of that pos11:19
Tandyman100so I would download a 'Touch Pro Kitchen' and a 'Winmo6.5 base' and then put all the packages I wanted on it?11:19
TheDeadCPUYes11:21
XirXespretty much. but theres so many little things that need tweeking that i just recommend energy rom when its available for your device11:21
TheDeadCPUEnergyROM started on the Touch Pro XirXes.11:21
XirXesi know11:21
TheDeadCPUIf you didn't know :D11:21
TheDeadCPUlol k11:21
XirXesand it actually started on the excalibur but the touch pro is where it got REALZ yo11:22
Tandyman100haha11:22
XirXesi actually had an excalibur when he started11:22
XirXesand that was deff the best rom that phone ever had11:23
Tandyman100Wow, the excalibur is a SLOW phone11:23
XirXesdidnt ever feel like it tho11:23
Tandyman100It'd just be cool to make my own ROM that had all of the apps I always install pre-installed11:23
XirXesit still feels snappier than my tp2 with all the bells and whistles in the rom11:24
XirXeswhat rom do you use11:24
Tandyman100Me? EnergyROM, the light one.11:25
Tandyman100Manilla, but no co0kie11:25
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XirXesjust put the cabs of the apps you want in the XDA_UC folder on the sd. every time you hard reset or update they'll be installed for you11:26
Tandyman100Yeah, that's what I do11:26
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Tandyman100but that's not as fun :P11:26
Tandyman100http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/cdma-tp-upgrades/42796-8-3-09-erice-new-style-tp-kitchen-build-23016-5-3-0-a.html ummm...11:26
XirXeslol11:27
Tandyman100the kitchen packs are gone -_-11:27
XirXestheyre out of date anyway11:27
XirXesoh i was thinking the build pack11:28
Tandyman100I guess I'll try ppckitchen :D11:28
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XirXesim dumb lol. my setup for booting android is fairly strange and i kinda forgot how it works causing me to boot my usual android install11:31
Tandyman100haha, oops11:31
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Tandyman100I wish there was a Touch Pro emulator11:33
Tandyman100so i could test these xdandroid builds and custom ROMs and stuff without using my *only* phone11:34
XirXesi use gen.y dualboot aswell as android launcher, the auto bl enabling thing. but to use them both i had to name android launcher haret.exe and put it in my andboot folder. and that points to haretloader.exe in the registry.11:34
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XirXeseg \sdcard\andboot\haretloader.exe11:34
XirXesand then i copied that into my andsense folder and was wondering why my rel_path statement wasnt working11:35
Tandyman100ooookay...11:35
Tandyman100So you  have two builds of android on your phone11:35
Tandyman100and you use android launcher to switch?11:36
XirXesyeah. and im actually booting the sense one now.11:36
XirXesno11:36
Tandyman100oh11:36
Tandyman100yay11:36
Tandyman100what phone is this?11:36
XirXesandroid launcher is just a program that disables auto bl and the runs haret11:36
Tandyman100ok11:37
arrrghhhTP2No need to disable autobl anymore tho11:37
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arrrghhhTP2Closely guarded secret lol11:38
Tandyman100I just have android in root11:38
arrrghhhTP2I've got like 5 builds so that doesn't work for me11:38
XirXesreally. you dont need to anymore?11:38
arrrghhhTP2Nope.  Wistilt2's new autobl initiates itself in hardware11:39
XirXeslol nice. its showing me how to put a sim card in the desire11:39
arrrghhhTP2So the setting in winmo no longer matters :D11:39
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arrrghhhTP2Yea I don't think we really announced that very well.11:41
Kampfzwerghello11:41
arrrghhhTP2Howdy11:41
Tandyman100Hi11:41
Kampfzwergi have a problem with android 2.2 on my touch pro 211:42
Kampfzwergcan someone help me?11:42
Tandyman100We can certainly try ;)11:42
Kampfzwergthats good :)11:42
arrrghhhTP2Lol ask ur question11:42
arrrghhhTP2Ugh I guess I should get out of bed.11:43
Kampfzwergi installed it on sd card and boot it.. everything works fine, but i can´t get some internet connection11:43
Tandyman100What happens when you try to turn on the wifi?11:43
Kampfzwergsorry for my english11:43
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Tandyman100do you simply get "error"?11:43
Kampfzwergon wifi yes11:44
Tandyman100ok11:44
arrrghhhTP2Force cdma11:44
Tandyman100I had the same problem on my Touch Pro11:44
Kampfzwergi don´t have a cdma phone11:44
arrrghhhTP2So set it to 011:45
Kampfzwergi don´t want to get an connection with wifi, i want to go to the internet with hsdpa11:45
arrrghhhTP2Listen to me then11:45
Tandyman100oooohhh11:45
KampfzwergarrrghhhTP2: i do this... but no connection11:45
arrrghhhTP2Do you have phone service?11:45
Kampfzwergi don´t know what you mean11:46
arrrghhhTP2Phone calls11:47
Kampfzwergi can call something11:47
arrrghhhTP2Txt messages11:47
arrrghhhTP2Ok11:47
Kampfzwergsomeone11:47
Kampfzwergsorry11:47
Kampfzwerg^^11:47
arrrghhhTP2Hrm11:47
Tandyman100Do you have an internet connection in windows mobile?11:47
Tandyman100oh, uber-ninja'd11:47
Kampfzwergyes11:47
arrrghhhTP2That doesn't matter.11:47
arrrghhhTP2Let's try the apn trick11:47
Tandyman100well, it tells us if he actually HAS internet to begin with :P11:47
Kampfzwergwith the mock apn?11:47
arrrghhhTP2U know that?11:47
arrrghhhTP2Yea11:47
arrrghhhTP2Do you have any apns in there?11:47
Kampfzwergdon´t work11:47
Kampfzwergonly one11:48
arrrghhhTP2Kk11:48
Kampfzwergthe t-mobile germany apn11:48
arrrghhhTP2Does your provider use a proxy to get to the internet?11:48
Kampfzwergas far as  i know no11:48
arrrghhhTP2I guess another good question is did hsdpa ever work.11:49
arrrghhhTP2In android11:49
Kampfzwergyes11:49
XirXeswow this sense build is running alot smother than last time i tried it. plus its pretty11:49
Kampfzwergah11:49
Kampfzwergk11:49
Kampfzwergi don´t know11:49
arrrghhhTP2...?11:49
arrrghhhTP2First time booting android today?11:49
Kampfzwergno yesterday..11:49
arrrghhhTP2Oic11:49
Tandyman100xirxes awesome!11:50
arrrghhhTP2Hmmmmm perplexing11:50
Kampfzwergyes... ^^11:50
arrrghhhTP2Do you get a 3g symbol in the notification bar?11:50
Tandyman100arrrghhhTP2, could it be the same issue that caused my wifi issues?11:50
Tandyman100driver problems?11:50
XirXesyup. no wifi'11:50
arrrghhhTP2Unlikely... dunno tho.11:50
XirXesdamn11:50
KampfzwergarrrghhhTP2:  nope.. never11:50
Tandyman100XirXes, so sense is pretty and quick, but there's no wifi!?!?11:51
arrrghhhTP2So you just have the signal bars, nothing else?11:51
arrrghhhTP2Welll except batt and clock11:51
Kampfzwergyes11:51
XirXesit actually feels faster than the froyo builds11:51
arrrghhhTP2Sounds like an apn issue.11:51
Kampfzwergbut not 3g11:51
arrrghhhTP2Did you create that apn?11:51
Tandyman100XirXes, wow, I can't wait to test it later11:51
arrrghhhTP2Or was it in there when you first booted.11:51
Kampfzwergbut the same apn settings are in windows11:51
arrrghhhTP2Don't worry about winm11:52
arrrghhhTP2Has very little to do with android anymore ;)11:52
KampfzwergarrrghhhTP2:  first i tested it with the default settings from android, and after that i set settings from t-mobile manual11:52
Kampfzwergi use the same settings which are on original android phones from t-mobile11:53
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arrrghhhso when you first booted11:54
arrrghhhwas there an APN there..?11:54
Kampfzwergyes11:54
arrrghhhjust said android and internet right?11:54
Kampfzwergwith the correct settings for my provider11:54
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arrrghhhhm11:55
arrrghhhdoesn't sound build related but what build are you running?11:55
Kampfzwergandroid froyo 11011011:57
arrrghhhwell11:57
arrrghhhblazn11:57
arrrghhhreference11:57
arrrghhhneopeek11:57
arrrghhhetc11:57
arrrghhhwhat zimage, rootfs, system image?  did you update it at all?11:57
Kampfzwergi update in startup utility first11:58
arrrghhhdamnit.11:58
arrrghhhwe don't support that utility.11:58
Kampfzwergk11:58
arrrghhhcan you update manually for me?11:58
arrrghhhgo grab the 11/3 kernel/modules11:58
Kampfzwergif you tell me how11:58
arrrghhhand the 11/3 rootfs11:58
arrrghhhgrab 'em from the autobuild sites.11:59
arrrghhhneed links i'm guessing?11:59
Kampfzwergpls11:59
arrrghhh1 sec11:59
Kampfzwergnp11:59
arrrghhhhttp://xdandroid.southcape.org/rootfs/12:00
arrrghhhdelete your old rootfs.img12:01
arrrghhhand rename that one to rootfs.img12:01
arrrghhhhttp://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/12:01
XirXesTandyman100: http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Getting_the_Source android kitchens are different. build it yourself12:01
arrrghhhthat one the zimage fille needs to be renamed to just that - zImage, not file exteion.  don't rename the modules file, but delete your existing zimage/modules before replacing with the new ones.12:01
Tandyman100^the latest htc-msm-linux didn't work for me. Wifi was broken, and I don't know about the other radios12:01
arrrghhheh12:02
arrrghhhwho uses wifi.12:02
XirXesme12:02
arrrghhhrubes i tell you.  rubes.12:02
XirXeslol12:03
arrrghhh:P12:03
arrrghhhdo none of you guys have a data plan?12:03
Tandyman100Not me12:03
arrrghhhjust seems like a waste of a phone ot me.  but i'm hardly ever around wifi unless i'm home.12:03
XirXesi dont have service. im on my parents family plan and they took my sim till i get a job12:03
Tandyman100I just can't afford service12:04
arrrghhhlol12:04
arrrghhhoh you kids.12:04
arrrghhhXirXes, how old are you?12:04
XirXes19 as of the 4th12:04
arrrghhhdang man, move out :P12:04
F22 lol12:05
XirXeslol. cant. no job12:05
arrrghhhbum.12:05
F22good afternoon gentlemen12:05
arrrghhhhahaha12:05
arrrghhhwhat's up F2212:05
arrrghhhdid you see my posts?12:05
F22found the source used to make the keyboard map for the tilt2, so i'll be able to update that one too now, so all the American tp2's will be covered at least.12:06
arrrghhhnice.12:06
arrrghhhsearch key...?  pretty please?  :P12:06
F22not sure why that one never made it into xdandroid's repo.12:06
F22still looking into the search key, but it definitely looks possible.12:06
arrrghhheh there's probably a lot of weird things out there that need cleaning up.12:06
XirXesi really like having a search key12:06
arrrghhhwistilt2 said the mic just kept getting muted in the OS, causing the call problem lol12:07
F22g1 has search mapped to the keyboard.12:07
XirXeshold to voice search12:07
F22don't see why we can't do the same for the tp2.12:07
arrrghhhtha'd be schweet.12:07
arrrghhhcuz a lot of apps use it.12:07
arrrghhhlike andchat.  drives me bonkers :P12:07
Kampfzwergarrrghhh: now i updated zimage and rootfs12:08
Kampfzwergshould i start android again12:08
arrrghhhlets give it a shot.12:08
F22arrrghhh: did you still want a list of key additions/changes? or did you check them all out the other day?12:08
arrrghhhF22, i saw 'em, no worries.  they all work AFAIK.12:08
F22great. that's 2 down then. now i just need to find someone with a 500 (Verizon) and a 100 Nordic12:09
arrrghhhhrm.12:09
F22and eventually, once i add it, the tilt2.12:09
arrrghhhnate has a 50012:09
arrrghhhdon't know if edvard tp2 is nordic or not.12:09
F22the 500 i'm particularly curious about because i reactivated the star key as <>12:10
arrrghhhok12:10
F22that key was commented out for some reason.12:10
arrrghhhdo you know nate?12:11
arrrghhhnatemcutty or whatever12:11
F22i've seen him on htc-linux12:11
F22never spoken to him though12:11
Kampfzwergno 3g -.-12:11
arrrghhhhe's a cool guy.12:11
arrrghhhKampfzwerg, hrm.  i'm baffled.12:11
arrrghhhno 3g icon is a bad sign tho12:12
arrrghhhwhich is why i keep leaning to the apn12:12
arrrghhhlets do the ole delete the data.img.  wheeeeeee!12:12
F22i'll jump Nate next time he's on and tell him you vounteered him as my rhod500 guinea pig. :P12:12
arrrghhhlol12:13
Kampfzwergthe data.img is the filesystem right?12:13
arrrghhhhe's always game ;)12:13
arrrghhhKampfzwerg, basically where all user customizations go.12:13
F22excellent :)12:13
Kampfzwergok12:13
arrrghhhso you'll loose all apps, homescreen customiziations, contacts...12:13
arrrghhhbasically anything you changed whilst in android ;)12:13
Kampfzwergi have noapps or something else ^^12:13
arrrghhhwell then, blast 'er out!12:13
Kampfzwergi have no internet connection xD12:14
arrrghhhlol12:14
arrrghhhkind of an annoying step, but it fixes oddities more often than not.12:16
Kampfzwergokay... the hope die at least12:17
Kampfzwergor so12:18
Kampfzwerg^^12:18
arrrghhh?12:18
Kampfzwergi go smoke while android start12:19
arrrghhhok12:20
arrrghhhi do too :D12:20
Kampfzwerggood smoke12:20
arrrghhhindeed.12:21
Kampfzwergno 3g -.-12:21
arrrghhhhm12:21
arrrghhhwell now it gets difficult.12:22
Kampfzwerghmpf ^^12:22
arrrghhhyea... now my only recourse is having you try older zimages until it does work...12:22
arrrghhhwhat is your device?12:22
arrrghhhrhod100?12:22
Kampfzwergyes12:23
Kampfzwergi think so ^^12:23
Kampfzwergbutits branded...12:23
Kampfzwergis it a problem12:23
arrrghhhbranded tits?12:23
Kampfzwerg?12:23
arrrghhhwouldn't think so.12:24
Kampfzwergk12:24
arrrghhhunless your provider does something funky to connect to the net12:24
arrrghhhlike a proxy12:24
arrrghhhor something else odd.12:24
Kampfzwergi dont know12:24
F22if you take it out the battery and look underneath it will tell you what model it is. one of the apps in windows mobile will also tell you without having to take the battery out.12:24
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Kampfzwergim sure it is rhod10012:25
Kampfzwergbut i take a look under the batt12:25
arrrghhhwell12:25
arrrghhhmodel isn't so important here.12:25
Kampfzwergk12:25
arrrghhhi'm thinking it's a provider or apn issue.12:25
arrrghhhi was just curious :P12:25
arrrghhhyou have the SIM seated in the phone right?12:25
Kampfzwergwhy that xD12:25
arrrghhhhere is where i get lost, i don't use SIM cards...12:25
F22i'm scoping out future testers... ;)12:26
Kampfzwergyes12:26
arrrghhhi mean my phone is 'branded' as a sprint phone12:26
arrrghhhbut i have no troubles connecting to the net.12:26
arrrghhhKampfzwerg, do you get a service name in the notificaation bar?12:27
arrrghhhwhen you pull it down i mean.12:27
Kampfzwergyes12:27
arrrghhhlike mine says "Sprint" in the bar12:27
arrrghhhhrmmmm12:27
Kampfzwergmy says telekom.de if you mean that12:27
arrrghhhyou'd still get the 3g icon if you had a provider side issue...12:27
arrrghhhit just wouldn't work12:27
arrrghhhno 3g icon12:27
arrrghhhalmost has to be apn...12:27
arrrghhhyou've got a duzy.12:28
arrrghhhso go into the apns12:28
arrrghhhcan you try to force it to connect to that one apn?12:28
arrrghhhi think you just click it once instead of longpressing it.12:28
Kampfzwergon the apn ?12:29
arrrghhhysesir12:29
arrrghhher12:29
arrrghhhyessir12:29
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Kampfzwergthe apn paint yellow and then it goes to the settings12:30
XirXesF22: ill test12:31
XirXesrhod21012:31
XirXeswait. thats what you have isnt it12:31
arrrghhhKampfzwerg, did you long press it?12:32
arrrghhhor just click it12:32
Kampfzwergwhile i press it it paint yellow and nothing changed12:33
XirXeswell i found source for the desire z's rom. now to play. btw. i've got no idea and if i manage to get it working itl be a christmas miracle.12:33
arrrghhhKampfzwerg, is it selected?12:33
Kampfzwergyes12:34
arrrghhhhrm.12:34
arrrghhhwelp, i'm stumped.12:34
Kampfzwergtheres a green circle behind the apn name12:34
arrrghhhname is "Android" and APN is "internet" right?12:35
Kampfzwergname is t-mobile and apn is internet.t-mobile12:35
arrrghhhhrm12:35
arrrghhhthat's how it was entered?12:35
arrrghhhor did you enter that?12:35
Kampfzwergset by default12:36
Kampfzwergnot from me12:36
arrrghhhlol under mobile network settings is data enabled? :P12:36
Kampfzwergof course12:36
Kampfzwerg:)12:36
arrrghhhyup.  stumped.12:36
arrrghhhworks for me :P12:37
arrrghhhmay try some different builds...12:37
Kampfzwerg^^12:37
Kampfzwergcan you advise me some?12:37
arrrghhhblazn is my fave.12:37
arrrghhhthe neopeek builds are interesting12:37
arrrghhhbut take a bit of work to setup.12:37
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arrrghhh(they require an ext2 parition on the card)12:37
Kampfzwergi try blaze a week before12:38
arrrghhha week?12:38
Kampfzwergand i didn´t have some 3g12:38
arrrghhhi thought you said yesterday was your frist try12:38
arrrghhhfirst12:38
Kampfzwergwith froyo12:38
Kampfzwergblaze a week before12:38
Kampfzwergsorry, i think you mean this build ^^12:39
arrrghhhok so your entire android experience12:39
arrrghhhhave you ever had 3g data12:39
Kampfzwergnope12:39
arrrghhhhrm.12:39
Kampfzwergi tried 2.1 eclair too...12:40
Kampfzwergno 3g -.-12:40
arrrghhhyou're cursed.12:40
Kampfzwerg:(12:40
arrrghhhi don't know of anyone with a rhod100 with that issue12:41
Kampfzwergbut if the an settings are wrong, the 3g icon is visible ?12:41
arrrghhhthere was a lot of freezing issues reported by that crew12:41
arrrghhhi'm not sure what makes the 3g icon pop up, i'm assuming it's the apn.12:41
Kampfzwergdo you know some german android port users?12:42
Kampfzwergmaybe someone can tell me other an settings12:43
Kampfzwergapn*12:43
arrrghhhnope.12:45
arrrghhhi don't even know anyone with a rhod100 :P12:45
arrrghhhpost up on the forums.12:45
arrrghhhi've seen several german guys post12:45
arrrghhhplease drill thru all we have tried in the post12:45
arrrghhhso people don't reduplicate our efforts.12:45
Kampfzwergk i will do12:46
arrrghhhsorry i couldn't help ya.12:47
arrrghhhyou've definitely got an odd problem.12:47
Kampfzwergokay.... but thanks a lot for your help12:48
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Kampfzwerglol12:53
Kampfzwergarrrghhh:12:53
Kampfzwergwith edge i have internet connection12:53
arrrghhh?12:53
arrrghhhi thought you said you had no cxn ever?12:53
Kampfzwergyes12:54
arrrghhh...?12:54
Kampfzwergbut i tried it again with the only 2g option, and now i get internet12:54
arrrghhhhrm.12:54
arrrghhhso you get an E in the notification bar?12:55
Kampfzwergyes12:55
arrrghhhE w/up/down arrows?12:55
arrrghhhok12:55
arrrghhhwhat happens when you uncheck that box?12:55
arrrghhhdoes the internet just fail?12:55
Kampfzwergi cant uncheck, its painted grey12:55
Kampfzwerg-.-12:55
Kampfzwerghöö.. now i have 3g... ^^12:56
Kampfzwergit goes :D12:56
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arrrghhhlol13:00
arrrghhhfixed?13:00
urgodfathermorning all13:01
urgodfatheris anyone around?13:01
arrrghhhnot for my godfather.13:03
urgodfatherlol13:06
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urgodfatheri got maybe an ez question13:06
urgodfathercant find any info in the wiki13:06
urgodfatherusb isnt working13:07
XirXeswhat device13:07
urgodfatherrhod40013:07
arrrghhhusb works13:07
arrrghhhADB only13:07
arrrghhhso no usb mass storage13:07
arrrghhhno usb tethering.13:07
urgodfatheroh so i cant mount for storage?13:07
arrrghhhnope13:07
urgodfathergay13:07
arrrghhhthe card is mounted for android13:07
urgodfatherlol13:07
arrrghhhdumbass.13:07
XirXesno itl crash your device13:07
urgodfatherit did it once before13:08
urgodfathershowed usb debugging and everything13:08
arrrghhhyes13:08
arrrghhhusb debugging works13:08
urgodfathernow it doesnt13:08
urgodfatheryeah im sure that does but13:08
arrrghhhsounds like a personal problem to me.13:08
XirXesthe os is on the sd. if you unmount it the system wont have access to its file system. therefore. crash13:09
XirXesits working so when we have nand itl work fine13:09
urgodfathermy pc doesnt recognize it anymore when i plug it up13:09
XirXesfo mass storage13:09
urgodfathernice13:09
arrrghhhurgodfather, you're probably using windows.  adb sucks in windows.13:09
urgodfatheri am13:09
urgodfather713:09
arrrghhhit works, but it's a PITA.  much easier to setup in linux.13:09
arrrghhhi got it working in win7, but it was SO much easier in linux.13:10
urgodfatherill be glad when the nand project will be complete13:10
arrrghhhit also randomly likes to break in win7 and i have to redo the drivers.13:10
urgodfather:D13:10
arrrghhhyea, don't hold your breath...13:10
arrrghhhtook the vogue what, 3, 4 years?13:11
urgodfatheraww thats no fun13:11
arrrghhhwe're in about 1 year atm i believe.13:11
urgodfatherright about13:11
urgodfatherwhich is pretty good progress13:11
arrrghhhindeed13:11
arrrghhhtinboot seems like a bitch tho.13:11
urgodfatherall thats left is cam, batt, and bt13:11
arrrghhhbatt is almost there.13:12
urgodfatheri seen that13:12
arrrghhhthey seem close on cam...13:12
arrrghhhbut bt, i don't think anyone is looking at it lol13:12
XirXesand nobodys bothered with bt13:12
urgodfatherwhats up with the gps weather? doesnt work either?13:12
arrrghhhninja'd13:12
arrrghhhworks for me13:12
arrrghhhwell gps works for me13:12
arrrghhhweather works for me13:12
arrrghhhthere's TONS of 'gps weather' apps...13:12
urgodfatheryeah gps does but i cant get it to use my location for weather13:13
urgodfatheroh so dont use the stock13:13
arrrghhhi use fancy widget for weather13:13
arrrghhhit for some reason takes some time, but eventually gets the weather in there.13:13
urgodfatheri left in on android all night and still nothing13:14
urgodfatherthen, when i used my zip, it gave me a whole different place13:14
arrrghhhmeh13:14
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arrrghhhman don't know how i quit with my touchpad like that.13:15
arrrghhhare you talking about the news&weather app?13:15
urgodfatheryeah13:15
arrrghhhi've never really fiddled with it.13:15
arrrghhhnever really worked right13:15
urgodfatherok13:15
arrrghhhfancy widget got the weather eventually.13:15
arrrghhhcrap.  my phone is SOD13:15
urgodfatherwhat about sky map?13:16
XirXeswasnt camro working on SOD. sadface13:16
arrrghhhnever tried it13:16
urgodfathereverything is inverted13:16
arrrghhhcamro seems to be out of the game now.13:16
XirXeshence the sadface13:16
arrrghhhgo buy a real android device if you want every app to work urgodfather13:16
urgodfatherlol i might13:16
arrrghhhXirXes, indeed.  i'm hoping we can get him a donor device soon.13:17
arrrghhhyou can't expect every app to work perfectly.  i'm just glad i can boot android at all, it's just a plaything.13:17
urgodfatherbut its not as fun as taking a winmo device and putting it on there13:17
arrrghhhnot meant to be a winmo replacement.13:17
XirXesthis sense rom hasnt slowed down or force quit anything yet13:17
arrrghhhthat's all it is tho - fun13:17
arrrghhhdon't expect it to be flawless.13:17
urgodfathernot at all13:18
arrrghhhXirXes, i don't want 2.1 :P13:18
arrrghhhor sense...13:18
arrrghhhbleh13:18
arrrghhhbloatware13:18
urgodfatherwell thanks for the tips13:18
arrrghhhdamn nothin is wakin this damned thing.  soft reset time methinks.13:18
urgodfatherand the hard work13:18
XirXesi like it.13:18
urgodfather:D13:18
arrrghhhXirXes, you like the bloat?  lol13:20
XirXesi like the shineyness13:20
arrrghhheh13:20
arrrghhhmaybe if it ran worth a damn.13:20
arrrghhhi guess i never tried it on rhod tho13:20
arrrghhhonly raph13:20
XirXeswell im ocing it. i bet itd run like shit without that. but it feels so responsive.13:21
arrrghhhha13:21
arrrghhhwhat oc?13:21
XirXes72513:21
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arrrghhhhm13:21
arrrghhhi dunno13:21
arrrghhhit always ran like a pig13:21
XirXesi dont care about battery life13:22
arrrghhhand the screen fitment was always nasty.13:22
arrrghhheh i usually oc to 70013:22
arrrghhhbattery life seems fine, but stability is usually sacrificed.13:22
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XirXesyeah. vga just isnt right i guess13:22
arrrghhhthe lock screen on rosie was always so messed up.13:22
XirXesbut it looks like it should have always been this way in my device13:23
XirXesthe lock screen is also working perfect for me13:23
XirXesnot even any hesitation unlocking it13:23
XirXesi just wish wifi worked. then this rom would become my daily driver and i would use my plain one for testing13:25
arrrghhhbut the fitment of the lock screen.13:25
arrrghhhis it off?13:25
XirXesnope13:25
XirXeswvga everything looks right13:25
arrrghhhhuh13:26
arrrghhhwas there an update?13:26
arrrghhhi haven't seen crap on it.13:26
arrrghhhjust people whining about getting sense on 2.213:26
XirXesim using the latest version of it. 4/2113:26
XirXesi mean 4/2713:26
arrrghhhfrom where?13:27
arrrghhhlol like i said haven't seen anything on it in forever.13:27
arrrghhhapril sounds right lol13:27
XirXeshttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=64102113:27
arrrghhhoh no wonder13:27
arrrghhhi didn't realize there was a thread in the blackstone area :P13:27
XirXesi found it in a post from TheDeadCPU13:28
arrrghhhof course.  norwegian bastard.13:29
XirXeslol13:29
arrrghhhi'll give it a shot, why not.13:30
XirXesthe only thing im not running latest of is the system file. kernel init and rootfs are normal up to date ones13:31
arrrghhh4/23 looks like the newst sqsh?13:31
arrrghhhwell dude you have to replace the system file :P13:31
XirXesyeah 23 is what im running. not 2713:31
arrrghhhoh snap.  seppuku!13:34
XirXes?13:34
arrrghhhsorry watchin shogun.  they actually show a guy committing seppuku13:34
XirXeslol13:34
arrrghhhpretty hardcore.  especially for 1983 or whatever.13:36
XirXeswow. just googled. that is hardcore13:37
arrrghhhnever heard of it before?  i'd heard of seppuku, just never seen shogun.  crazy.13:38
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arrrghhhholy crap don't look at the google images for that :P13:41
XirXesi like this one the best13:42
XirXeshttp://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt27/IllicoPresto/Motivational/Seppuku.jpg13:42
arrrghhhlol13:42
arrrghhhthere was one of a meercat committed seppuku13:42
arrrghhhhttp://www.tribs.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/b3ta/MeerkatSeppuku.jpg13:43
F22XirXes: Yep, I already know it works for the 210, but if you're interested in having some extra keys, you're welcome to try it out also.13:48
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Tandyman100Hello everyone13:50
arrrghhhquick, everyone hide!13:51
* Tandyman100 googles seppuku13:51
Tandyman100oh god...13:51
arrrghhhlol don't13:51
Tandyman100I did NOT want to know that O_o13:51
arrrghhhhahaha13:51
XirXeshow do you do those emotes13:53
arrrghhhtype them?13:53
arrrghhhcaptial O underscore _ lower case o? :P13:53
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XirXesnot the emoticons. how he said "googles seppuku13:54
XirXes"13:54
arrrghhhoh13:54
arrrghhh /me13:54
* arrrghhh likes bacon13:54
Tandyman100 you type "/me does something"13:54
Tandyman100no leading spaces13:54
XirXesah. ok13:54
Tandyman100Did you figure our wifi on Sense?13:55
* XirXes ponders what to use this for13:55
Tandyman100out*13:55
XirXesno13:55
arrrghhhlol13:55
* Tandyman100 ponders chicken13:55
* arrrghhh tells the kids to get data connections.13:55
arrrghhh:P13:55
Tandyman100Hey13:55
XirXeswhen i get a job ill be back to wonderful 3g glory13:55
Tandyman100I have no money, and I'm $40 in the hole just for the Touch Pro :)13:55
arrrghhhget a job hippies!13:55
Tandyman100I'm 14!!!113:56
arrrghhh$4013:56
arrrghhhi worked construction when i was 14...13:56
Tandyman100The phone was $65, and I only had $30 at the time13:56
arrrghhhthat's cheap!13:56
Tandyman100arrrghhh, things are different now. You can't get a job legally until you're 1613:56
arrrghhhi think i was supposed to pay like $330 for the phone.13:56
Tandyman100Yeah, I know13:56
arrrghhhlol it wasn't legal back then13:56
arrrghhhhow old do you think i am?13:56
Tandyman100$65 Touch Pro :D13:56
arrrghhh300?13:56
Tandyman100Yes, arrrghhh13:57
arrrghhhlol13:57
arrrghhhdick.13:57
Tandyman100:P13:57
Tandyman100How old are you?13:57
arrrghhhi would just ride my dirt bike up to houses that were being build and asked if they needed help.13:57
Tandyman10020s?13:57
arrrghhhyea13:57
arrrghhh2513:57
Tandyman100yeah13:57
Tandyman100things were more relaxed in the 80s and such13:57
arrrghhhlol13:57
Tandyman100nowadays everyone's so uptight about laws...13:57
arrrghhhi was born in the 80's.13:57
Tandyman100You can't even murder a prostitute without getting in trouble!13:58
arrrghhhdon't remember much of them.13:58
arrrghhhright?13:58
Tandyman100what kind of a world is that?13:58
arrrghhhman what 80's do you remember?13:58
arrrghhhthe 1980's in russia?13:58
arrrghhhlol13:58
XirXesthe fall of the wall happened the year i was born13:58
XirXes199113:58
Tandyman100Well, in 1983 the TRS-80 Model 100 came out, and I programmed with that until the early 90s, when I bought a 486 laptop. Then in 1996 I was born, and spent the next few years learning to not crap my pants13:59
arrrghhhi was 7.13:59
arrrghhhlol13:59
arrrghhhhrm.13:59
arrrghhhyour story seems unlikely.13:59
XirXesi enjoyed it tho'13:59
arrrghhhlol13:59
XirXescool story brah13:59
Tandyman100aww... the nick 'spock' is being used :*(13:59
Tandyman100<Spock> it isn't logical14:00
Tandyman100I love the original star trek series ^_^14:00
arrrghhhfawk.  the ps3 is pissin me off.  i'm really close to just building an htpc.14:00
Tandyman100haha14:00
Tandyman100how accurate is the froyo battery meter?14:00
arrrghhheh14:00
Tandyman100it says 80%, winmo says 20%14:00
arrrghhhit's the zimage14:01
arrrghhhlol nice.14:01
arrrghhhwinmo isn't accurate as i've been told so don't compare it.14:01
arrrghhhbut i've never seen that big of a different.14:01
arrrghhhdifference14:01
arrrghhhare you running the newest zimage?14:01
arrrghhhbatt crap was 'fixed' a while ago tho.14:01
Tandyman100Yeah, newest14:02
arrrghhhweird.14:02
XirXesi believe it14:02
Tandyman100I think it was Jesus that helped me upgrade yesterday14:02
arrrghhhit's because it's not active.14:02
Tandyman100latest rootfs and zimage14:02
XirXesmines not that accurate but it did get better a while ago14:02
arrrghhhoh in that case you probably did it wrong14:02
arrrghhh:P jk.  he's not in here to defend himself lol14:03
Tandyman100haha14:03
Tandyman100I just downloaded the latest zimage/modules, and rootfs, and deleted the old ones so the new ones would be active14:03
Tandyman100after doing the needed renaming14:03
Tandyman100to rootfs14:03
arrrghhhand zimage14:04
Tandyman100yeah14:04
Tandyman100XirXes, where did you put the sense build of android? The root or in /android ?14:04
arrrghhhyou can put it wherever dude.14:04
arrrghhhjust adjust your rel_path14:04
arrrghhhin startup.txt14:04
Tandyman100okay14:04
XirXesi made a folder called andsense and edited rel_path14:04
arrrghhhi'm just going to try and replace my system image14:04
arrrghhhsee what i can break.14:04
Tandyman100I'm learnin stuff!14:04
Tandyman100I'm going to see what happens if I replace the sense build's zimage and modules14:05
Tandyman100see what i can break14:05
arrrghhhso long as you can fix it.14:05
arrrghhhit's what keeps me employed :D14:05
Tandyman100What line of work are you in?14:06
arrrghhhIT14:06
Tandyman100Computer Engineering?14:06
Tandyman100ah14:06
arrrghhhnot that fancy.14:06
arrrghhhi just fix things that break14:06
arrrghhhcisco VoIP network14:06
Tandyman100I'm going to major in computer engineering at WSU, and minor in music14:06
arrrghhhWAN connectivity14:06
XirXesi want that job14:06
Tandyman100perhaps later I'll go back for a major in music14:06
arrrghhhmost of the time it's a pretty sweet job.14:07
arrrghhhi work for a bank, so i know the company is going to just dissolve tomorrow lol14:07
XirXeslol14:07
Tandyman100hmm14:07
Tandyman100there is no rel_path in startup.txt14:07
Tandyman100do I just smack it in the beginning?14:07
arrrghhhin cmdline14:08
Tandyman100rel_pack /droid ?14:08
arrrghhhbetween the  quotes14:08
arrrghhhnonono14:08
arrrghhhrel_path=path/to/android14:08
Tandyman100Oh, I see where it goes14:08
Tandyman100so it would be rel_path=/droid ? or is it rel_path=Storage Card/droid ?14:08
arrrghhhso my builds are in /sdcard/Androids/TP2Blazn.  My rel_path=Androids/TP2Blazn14:08
Tandyman100ok14:08
arrrghhhjust rel_path=droid in your case14:08
arrrghhhugh.  buy me a new laptop Tandyman100.14:10
arrrghhhor XirXes.  i'm not picky.  i just want a new laptop :P14:10
XirXesme first14:10
Tandyman100buy me a new phone14:10
XirXesi miss my netbook14:10
Tandyman100:P14:10
XirXesi want food. so ima go do that14:11
arrrghhhyou wouldn't activate it anyways, what's the point?  haha14:11
* XirXes walks away14:11
* Tandyman100 hands arrrghhh a 486 Laptop14:11
arrrghhhcya14:11
Tandyman100New hardware14:11
arrrghhhbleh14:11
Tandyman100bye XirXes14:11
arrrghhhnew to me maybe.14:11
arrrghhhi just want to surf the web without being scalded, and without simple youtube videos freezing the entire rig.  stupid alienware.  gaming laptop my foot!14:12
Tandyman100What is the processor/vidya card combo?14:13
arrrghhhi think it's a centrino14:14
arrrghhhintel something.  single core 2.0ghz14:14
arrrghhhvid card is nvidia 6800 go.  256mb.14:14
Tandyman100doin it rong. Buy AMD :D14:14
* Tandyman100 puts on flame-retardant fire suit14:14
arrrghhhlol not too many laptops with amd.  especially back when i bought this.14:14
arrrghhhplus power consumption :P14:14
Tandyman100oh, it's OLD..14:15
Tandyman100Contrary to popular myth, AMD processors don't run hot anymore14:15
arrrghhhyes.14:15
arrrghhhit's old.14:15
Tandyman100that problem was back in 2004-200614:15
arrrghhhyup14:15
arrrghhhthis is circa 2004 i want to say.14:15
Tandyman100Heck, buy some random Dell14:15
Tandyman100this Celeron can even watch youtube videos14:15
arrrghhhi just spent 2 weeks pay on rubber, so that'll be a while.14:15
Tandyman100and it has intel mobile graphics14:15
Tandyman100Oh yeah. Your new tires.14:16
arrrghhhyea this was supposed to be a 'gaming laptop'.14:16
arrrghhhlol not even for my truck.14:16
arrrghhhi need to get new tires for my beast eventually as well.14:16
Tandyman100Ok, lets see if my random tinkering got me anywhere!!14:16
Tandyman100yay scrolling textt!14:17
Tandyman100:o14:21
Tandyman100it's booting, it got to the animation14:21
Tandyman100OMG SO CUTE!14:21
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XirXeslol14:24
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Tandyman100Yay it booted14:26
Tandyman100wait what is this...14:26
Tandyman100oh, nevermind14:27
Tandyman100my stupidity, that's what it was14:27
arrrghhhif only every user could realize this...14:27
arrrghhhi probably wouldn't have had so many issues with building the system image lol14:27
Tandyman100wifi works perfectly14:30
Tandyman100dunno what XirXes is smoking...14:30
arrrghhhwell that's good.14:30
arrrghhhyou have different devices.14:30
Tandyman100I thought he had a Touch Pro...?14:30
arrrghhhwe need to get you a jump to conclusion mat.14:30
arrrghhhrhod14:30
arrrghhhmethought14:30
arrrghhhXirXes, ?14:30
Tandyman100ooohhhh14:30
Tandyman100sorry, man14:30
Tandyman100It's loading up sense14:30
arrrghhhJesusFreak has a raph14:30
XirXesi have a rhod yes14:32
Tandyman100Ok14:33
Tandyman100there are some small graphical glitches for me, but otherwise this is pretty much a perfect built14:33
Tandyman100build*14:33
arrrghhhoh man i need to convert all my mkv's. this is awesome.14:35
Tandyman100XirXes, did you have any graphical issues?14:35
Tandyman100arrrghhh, what is?14:35
XirXesnot one14:35
Tandyman100Hmm14:35
Tandyman100Everything is a bit cut off at the bottom of mine14:35
arrrghhhTandyman100, sorry talkin 'bout my upnp media server setup w/my ps3.14:35
Tandyman100I'm assuming it's because my screen isn't WVGA14:35
XirXesrosie is made for wvga14:35
Tandyman100arrrghhh, oh, cool14:35
arrrghhhand yes that was the state with rosie on the raph.14:35
Tandyman100ok14:36
arrrghhhwhat is your lcd.density set to?14:36
Tandyman100Man, we need DEVS working on this14:36
arrrghhhmaybe if you set it to 240 it'll work...14:36
Tandyman100I don't really know14:36
Tandyman100I just copied startup.txt from my other android build14:36
XirXesarrrghhh: have you ever used tversity?14:36
Tandyman100froyo14:36
Tandyman100XBMC FTW14:36
arrrghhhXirXes, tried it, not a fan.14:36
arrrghhhdoesn't work on my ps3 :P14:36
arrrghhhxbmc that is.14:36
arrrghhhalthough i probably would use that if i were to build an htpc.14:36
arrrghhhXirXes, i use PS3MediaServer.  Java-based app, works really well.14:37
XirXesdont blame you. its not that smart. but it seems to play everything i try on my 36014:37
Tandyman100the time is 13:3714:37
Tandyman100:D14:37
XirXesneet14:37
XirXesneat14:37
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XirXeslol14:37
arrrghhhps3mediaserver works on the 360 as well, but microsoft didn't implement the most standard-compliant version of upnp...14:37
Tandyman100of course they didn't ;)14:38
arrrghhhhaha14:38
XirXesno they didnt. the 360 kinda sucks at media14:38
arrrghhhindeed.14:38
arrrghhhps3 ftw.14:38
arrrghhhnot such a bad failure rate either :P14:38
XirXesi have one cause its so damn easy to pirate for14:38
arrrghhhoh games?14:38
XirXesyeah14:38
arrrghhhoh yea.14:38
XirXesi have so many14:38
arrrghhhshouldn't talk about piracy here tho.14:39
XirXesindeed14:39
XirXesi did actually pay for reach tho14:39
Tandyman100#FBI14:39
arrrghhhjust not such a good idea.  the channel is logged.14:39
Tandyman100I know14:39
arrrghhhplus, it's not really in the spirit of xdandroid, y'know?14:39
Tandyman100yeah14:39
arrrghhhneither is my talk about htpc's so i'm guilty as well :P14:40
Tandyman100Piracy should be saved for private irc servers14:40
Tandyman100On a totally unrelated note, my irc server is irc.retro-box.net ...14:40
Tandyman100XD14:40
XirXesive got one too but it might not be running atm.14:40
arrrghhhholy crap14:40
arrrghhhthere's so many language choices14:40
Tandyman100What14:40
arrrghhhbut not english us?14:40
XirXesi know right?14:40
Tandyman100Oh, on the Sense build?14:41
Tandyman100I just chose the default14:41
arrrghhhEnglish (Switzerland)?  LOL14:41
XirXeslike 18 english choices but no us. the contry that speaks the language the best14:41
Tandyman100^that14:41
arrrghhhlol "the best"14:41
arrrghhhenglish is such a f-ed up bastard language.14:42
Tandyman100Agreed14:42
Tandyman100german ftw14:42
Tandyman100}:A14:42
arrrghhheh14:42
arrrghhhi wouldn't say any language in particular ftw lol14:42
Tandyman100yeah14:42
Tandyman100anything except chinese14:42
Tandyman100:P14:42
arrrghhhbut english is definitely a bastardized language.14:42
XirXesyeah. they all suck14:42
arrrghhhespecially if you look at old english lol14:42
Tandyman100haha14:42
arrrghhhthen those damned normans.  put over 10,000 french words into our language.14:43
XirXesdev tools is broken in this build14:43
Tandyman100My GOSH there's a lot of stuff in this build14:43
XirXesinstead of terminal emulator theres water. lol fail14:44
Tandyman100water?14:44
XirXesdoes the market work for those of you in data land?14:44
XirXesgo look in dev tools14:44
Tandyman100hold on14:45
Tandyman100I'm disabling animations ATM14:45
arrrghhhdata failland for XirXes14:45
* XirXes sobs uncontrollably14:45
arrrghhhlol14:45
Tandyman100haha14:45
arrrghhhwow rosie does fit wvga14:46
arrrghhhgo figure14:46
* Tandyman100 baaaawwwww14:46
Tandyman100I have VGA D:14:46
arrrghhhfitment was always off on the raph14:46
Tandyman100the market seems to be working fine14:46
arrrghhhhomescreen is wonky tho14:46
arrrghhhlockscreen looked right.. hmmm14:46
Tandyman100How so?14:47
XirXeswhen you started up was it in lanscape14:47
Tandyman100no14:47
arrrghhhwell it started in landscape14:47
arrrghhhTandyman100, it's a rhod thing14:47
arrrghhhso i hit back as usual14:47
Tandyman100oh14:47
arrrghhhand now it's right14:47
Tandyman100what, on , earth14:47
XirXesand now when you swipe the bottom bar streches?14:47
arrrghhhbut there's a bar on the right side of the screen14:47
arrrghhhso the screen is orientated correctly14:47
Tandyman100I just went into the market, then the phone froze and i got the klinux bootscreen again14:48
arrrghhhbut there's some odd sense bar on the right side of the screen that i think should be on the bottom in portrait mode.14:48
Tandyman100diagnoses: this build needs a LOT of TLC14:48
Tandyman100And a VGA version }:A14:48
arrrghhhlol14:49
arrrghhhyea14:49
arrrghhhlike i said, it was abandoned14:49
Tandyman100Why?14:49
arrrghhhacl is tryin to get sense on 2.214:49
Tandyman100It's a fantastic build, it just has some niggles14:49
arrrghhhcuz klinux left14:49
Tandyman100oh14:49
Tandyman100acl?14:49
arrrghhhhaven't seen him in a while.14:49
Tandyman100is there a progress thread?14:49
arrrghhherm in the tp2 section :P14:49
arrrghhhnot many devs working on raph now dude.14:50
XirXesi cant even find the ui to start porting. the desire z stuff i found was 328 mb of kernel sourch14:50
arrrghhhmost of the attention is on the hd2.14:50
Tandyman100:(14:50
Tandyman100*snif*14:50
arrrghhhman this works way better tho than when i last remember it on my raph.14:50
Tandyman100landscape is a bit wonky14:51
arrrghhhbleh14:51
arrrghhhi have such a love-hate relationship with sense.14:51
arrrghhhin that most of the time i love to hate it.14:51
Tandyman100I'm rebooting into windows mobile now14:52
Tandyman100imma delete this sense build14:52
Tandyman100it's rubbish on VGA14:52
arrrghhhit does work a lot smoother then i remember.14:52
TheDeadCPUlol14:53
TheDeadCPUarrrghhh, Yea, [acl] is working on getting the DesireZ rom onto the TP214:53
arrrghhhi know14:54
arrrghhhhe found some chinese version14:54
arrrghhhi think he may have found another one too not sure.14:54
arrrghhhwith the hero getting 2.2 officially i would think that would be the easiest route...14:54
Tandyman100sounds like he has 'contacts'14:54
arrrghhhgoogle?14:54
arrrghhh:P14:54
arrrghhhhe does know some peoples for sure.  not like coutella tho, that dude is nuts.14:55
arrrghhhwow all the options for account sync?!?14:56
arrrghhhman.  i'm so torn on sense.14:56
XirXesdoes it tempt you...?14:57
Tandyman100haha14:58
arrrghhhsometimes.14:58
Tandyman100...I think this user interface just turned me on14:58
arrrghhhbut then i look at the home screens and fliip thru them and think bleh.14:58
Tandyman100:X14:58
arrrghhhcreepy.14:58
XirXesyeah. i killed all the widgets that were open besides the clock14:59
arrrghhhi can't figure out how lol15:00
arrrghhhyou don't just drag them to the trash?15:00
XirXesthats what i did15:00
arrrghhhdo you have this stupid bar on the right hand side?15:01
arrrghhhi want to be rid of it.15:01
XirXesno. maybe just reset.15:01
arrrghhhevery time i click&hold it just brings up the menu.15:01
arrrghhhbah15:01
arrrghhhok15:01
arrrghhhit does run smooth tho.15:01
arrrghhhreally surprised by that tbh15:01
XirXesme too15:01
arrrghhhran like donkey poop on the raph.15:01
Tandyman100yeah15:01
Tandyman100It's pretty smooth on raph15:01
arrrghhhfrom what i remember15:02
Tandyman100but there's so many graphical issues...15:02
arrrghhhyou have a diff raph i think15:02
arrrghhhraph100?15:02
arrrghhhi used to have the 800.15:02
XirXes800 as in verizon15:02
XirXes?15:02
arrrghhhhad it for 2 years, it was a busted up phone tho.15:02
arrrghhh800 is sprint15:02
arrrghhh500 is vzw15:02
XirXesah. ok15:02
arrrghhh100 is at&t... or maybe 110?15:02
XirXesi think 11015:02
arrrghhhyea15:03
arrrghhh100 is perhaps the world version basically.15:03
arrrghhheuro editions15:03
arrrghhhhttp://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The-Stalled-Server-Room.aspx15:04
arrrghhhLOL15:04
arrrghhhsorry, that's just awesome.15:04
XirXesit really is15:06
XirXesthe wifi in the rhod isnt the tiwlan is it15:10
TheDeadCPUarrrghhh, porting the Hero 2.2 rom is stupid. It's so low res15:12
arrrghhhyou're stupid.15:13
arrrghhhXirXes, i believe so.15:13
arrrghhhoh yea i didn't even try wifi15:13
arrrghhhlol15:13
arrrghhhmy 3g data just worked so well...15:14
XirXesdick15:14
arrrghhhdidn't have to set anything up, it was just like magic data coming from the sky.15:14
arrrghhhlol15:14
* arrrghhh is a dick15:14
XirXeslol15:14
TheDeadCPUOh look! I found a car under the snow: http://instagr.am/p/LvVN/15:15
Tandyman100haha15:15
arrrghhhi don't have the 100 tho15:15
XirXeswell dmesg said stuff about detecting tiwlan. then it failed and gave up. the wlan init in this rom is coded stupidly15:15
arrrghhhdamn dude we haven't had our first snow yet TheDeadCPU15:15
Tandyman100I have the 80015:15
TheDeadCPUlol arrrghhh15:15
arrrghhhyou're coded stupidly.15:15
XirXesso does your wifi work?15:16
arrrghhhneed to boot again, some failure on boot.15:16
XirXesIM NOT CODED AT ALL DAMNIT15:16
arrrghhhback to winmo then back to sense poop15:16
arrrghhhmaybe that's the problem?15:16
* XirXes grumbles15:17
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XirXesim gunna se if i can get into this image in linux and if i can I'll just replace the wifi settings with whatsin xdandroid15:18
Tandyman100Just replace the zimage and modules15:20
Tandyman100worked for me15:20
Tandyman100just deleted the old ones and click-n-dragged from a known working xdandroid installation15:20
arrrghhhoh hey15:20
arrrghhhlooks much better this boot15:20
Tandyman100really?15:20
arrrghhhyea no weird bar on the right15:21
arrrghhhit's where it should be15:21
arrrghhhfitment looks poyfect15:21
XirXesim already using latest with it. the problem is with how this version is enabling wifi. it doesnt use the adroid apis to do it15:21
XirXesnice15:21
arrrghhhit's slower than molasses tho.15:21
arrrghhhsame oc settings lol15:21
arrrghhhah just needed to finish crapping itself on boot perhaps.15:22
F22i wonder what two functions everyone would most like bound to the keyboard. search? menu? home? notifications?15:22
arrrghhhsearch15:22
arrrghhhuh...15:22
arrrghhhbacon.15:22
F22lol15:22
arrrghhhXirXes, unable to start wifi.15:23
arrrghhhyou may have to go with a very old kernel and modules lol not sure.15:23
F22i have search bound to envelope on my keyboard currently.15:23
arrrghhhor y'know... get a job.  hippie.15:23
XirXesim neutral. i remap my face buttons.15:23
XirXesfigures15:23
arrrghhhhahaha15:23
XirXesits never worked in sense builds15:23
arrrghhhoic15:23
arrrghhhwell, looks like get a job hippie is your only option.15:24
F22what are you setting your own buttons to Xirx?15:24
XirXesid still want wifi anyway. i dont get 3g in my parents basement15:24
XirXes or on the property period.15:25
XirXesits like a one house sized deadzone15:25
arrrghhhjust going to make some horrible comment about your parents basement.15:25
arrrghhhyea my parents live in the boonies.  don't get service there.15:25
XirXesi get 3g at the neighbors. its bs15:26
arrrghhhthat's odd.15:26
XirXesi thinks its trees15:26
arrrghhhwell looks like you need to get a job & get out of your parents basement.15:26
arrrghhhproblem solved.  don't have to worry about trees whatsoever.15:27
XirXeslol15:27
arrrghhhcome to #xdandroid.  arrrghhh will be your lifecoach.15:27
XirXesso glad i bought a core i7 computer before i lost my last job.15:27
arrrghhhdamn.15:28
arrrghhhi don't have a core i7 computer.15:28
TheDeadCPUnoty15:28
arrrghhhmy server has a q9500...15:28
XirXesive got 80 processes going right now plus a linux virtual machine15:28
XirXesno performance decrease15:29
XirXesits a beautiful thing15:29
XirXesi could close some of them but its more fun this way15:29
Tandyman100I want a bacon button15:32
Tandyman100INSTANT BACON15:32
TheDeadCPUI have that on my channel.15:32
TheDeadCPUIt's just +bacon.15:32
TheDeadCPUAnd you have some bacon15:32
Tandyman100:o15:33
Tandyman100WHERE IS THE FABLED BACON CHANNEL?15:33
F22several of the euro keymaps already had envelope->search and ctrl->menu. i think i may just do the same.15:33
Tandyman100I'm booting the sense build again...15:33
Tandyman100While I'm at it, i want a shrubbary15:34
F22er key layouts15:34
XirXescan you make ctrl work>15:34
XirXes?15:34
F22it works just fine when i tell to behave as menu.15:34
arrrghhhholy crap.15:35
arrrghhhhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5242301038861631075#15:35
XirXesi meant as ctrl. but when i looked i didnt see it being possible15:35
arrrghhhEagle Mode is the craziest thing i've seen in a while...15:36
XirXeswow. that would blow my mind15:36
F22does control work fine on native android?15:36
arrrghhhwatch the whole vid15:36
Tandyman100It;s faster this boot...15:36
arrrghhhhe's got like how-tos microscopically hidden next to the controls...15:37
arrrghhhlol15:37
arrrghhhmadness15:37
Tandyman100that's insane15:37
XirXesof course he zooms in on a fractal15:38
XirXesyou dont need to lock your comp just zoom out.15:39
Tandyman100haha15:39
XirXesi dont know if there is any device that has a control key.15:39
Tandyman100WOW15:39
Tandyman100this is FAST now15:39
Tandyman100still a ton of graphical errors, but MAN15:40
TheDeadCPUWhat is fast?15:40
Tandyman100the sense build15:40
XirXesidk what happens if you plug in or bt a keyboard with it on it15:40
Tandyman100I rebooted15:40
Tandyman100XirXes: I do, and it's very similar to dividing by zero...15:40
* XirXes totally freaks out15:41
Tandyman100*coolface*15:41
Tandyman100hmm15:42
Tandyman100HMM15:43
Tandyman100HMM15:43
Tandyman100humnahumnahumna15:43
TheDeadCPUYea, it needs a reboot :p15:44
* Tandyman100 tries to figure out how to use PPCkitchen15:46
F22Xirxes: It doesn't look like ctrl is defined in the list of key events for android. that's not a good sign.15:47
XirXesman i wish klinux had posted his source somewhere before he quit.15:47
XirXesmy thoughts exactly15:47
XirXesill sure miss copy and paste15:48
F22at least envelope is defined, although it didn't seem to do anything on my rhod before i assigned it to search.15:48
XirXesxdandroid prob just doesnt have an application linked to it15:48
XirXesthe g1 has an envelope15:49
XirXesi believe15:49
Tandyman100why are we talking about shortcut buttons?15:50
Tandyman100The Raph800 has an envelope'15:50
Tandyman100if anyone cares :P15:50
Tandyman100nowait15:50
Tandyman100it has an activesync shortcut15:51
XirXescause thats what F22 is working on15:51
Tandyman100an internet shortcut15:51
Tandyman100and something called "T9"15:51
Tandyman100what's "T9"?15:51
F22Xirxes: yep, you're right. and i assume it works on the g1.15:52
XirXespredictive text entry.15:52
F22or it wouldnt be on there. :P15:52
Tandyman100Thanks15:52
XirXesi would rather have it do something useful than to open messages tho15:53
F22found something amusing looking at the G1's keymap. there's a hex code for a symbol palette.15:53
F22has some of the keys i was looking to add on it.15:53
XirXesnice15:53
F22i have it working on my rhod now.15:54
XirXescan you link me the g1s keymap. i wanna look15:54
F22sure15:54
F22https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_vendor_htc_dream_sapphire/raw/f43553d8b36905b3a633a8dffebe655fb2c97148/sapphire-keypad.kcm15:55
F22cyanogen is using it for both dream and sapphire15:55
F22https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_vendor_htc_dream_sapphire/blob/f43553d8b36905b3a633a8dffebe655fb2c97148/trout-keypad-v3.kl15:56
XirXesodd but totally understandable choice15:56
F22lol, yup15:56
F22the symbol palette has [] {} \ |  plus some others that aren't on my pc keyboard. :P15:57
XirXesneat15:58
F22a reserved symbol, a copyright symbol, what looks like a multiplication dot, a combined + and - together.15:58
F22also one symbol i'm not sure what it is.15:58
XirXeslol15:58
F22has an elipsis too15:59
F22the symbol i'm not sure about looks like a capital Y with two horizontal bars through its bottom.15:59
Tandyman100yen?16:00
XirXeswhat does the number collum mean16:00
F22i assume it's for native android keyboards which don't have a number row.16:00
Tandyman100That Y-shaped thing is a symbol for the currency called the 'yen'.16:01
F22they don't get 5 line keyboards like we do.16:01
F22interesting.16:01
F22clearly i've never been to japan. :P16:01
XirXesoh i figured it out. those are the numbers those letters would be on if they were on a traditional phone keypad16:02
XirXesim assuming there in there for dialing numbers with letters. possibly other uses too16:03
F22ahh, so why would they take the time to implement that? android on a phone with no soft keypad?16:03
Tandyman100ugh, buildOS updater has been 'connecting to server' for 20 minutes now >:(16:03
Tandyman100Does anyone know of another good kitchen similar to it? It looks really easy to use if I can just get it to update16:04
XirXesmake a windows firewall rule blocking it and try. maybe if it cant find the internet itl quit trying to update16:05
Tandyman100well it has to update so it can download the packages and OEM stuff you need16:06
Tandyman100I can run buildOS just fine, but I can't create anything without the base ROMs16:07
XirXesoh. i never had anything helpful like that when i was cooking16:07
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Tandyman100What did you use to coock?16:10
Tandyman100cook*16:10
Tandyman100THIS IS ROMS NOT ROOSTERS16:11
XirXeservious kitchen16:11
Tandyman100ok16:12
Tandyman100http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/cdma-tp-upgrades/129863-android-froyo-cyanogenmod6-ports-neopeek.html16:12
Tandyman100what exactly is this?16:12
Tandyman100It looks like some overly-complecated android ports..16:15
Tandyman100that requries partitioning your flash card16:15
Tandyman100But I'm still not sure of what Cyanogen mod actually DOES16:15
Tandyman100does it add functionality?16:15
Tandyman100simply speed it up?16:15
Tandyman100theme layer?16:15
F22Â¥ · ® © ± [ ] { } \ |  ...16:18
F22that's the list in the symbol palette16:18
F22neat find, i wonder what other hidden gems are out there16:18
arrrghhhi wonder how many other matroska's i can convert...16:28
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TheDeadCPUOoooooooooooooooo! My replacement screen just arrived.16:42
Tandyman100Oh dear, it looks like this kitchen is going to take 8 or 9 hours to download16:45
Tandyman100TheDeadCPU, what phone is the screen for?16:45
TheDeadCPUTandyman100, Replacement Desktop Monitor :p16:46
Tandyman100*angryface*16:46
Tandyman100THIS IS A PHONE CHANNEL!16:46
Tandyman100;)16:46
TheDeadCPUMine was fucked up so they sendt a replacement :p16:46
arrrghhhwhat bug involves the volume control16:49
TheDeadCPUbug 116:49
xdandroidBug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1 enhancement, Normal, ---, stinebd, NEW, Bluetooth not working correctly16:49
TheDeadCPUno16:49
TheDeadCPUbug 4216:49
xdandroidBug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=42 normal, Normal, ---, developers, REOPENED, BLAZN, Haret, no service16:49
arrrghhhno16:49
TheDeadCPUlol 4216:49
stinebdDONT HIGHLIGHT ME FRIVOLOUSLY16:49
arrrghhhrepeated volume causes a reboot16:50
TheDeadCPUI didn't mean to D:16:50
arrrghhhyou were highlighted?16:50
stinebdpfft that's an old bug16:50
TheDeadCPUYes16:50
TheDeadCPUin bug 116:50
arrrghhhoic16:50
arrrghhhlol16:50
arrrghhhstinebd, how goes it?16:50
stinebdwait16:50
stinebdwhat kind of reboot?16:50
arrrghhhandroid only16:50
arrrghhhnot soft reset16:50
stinebdyeah, old bug16:50
arrrghhhjust back to boot anim16:51
arrrghhhi know16:51
arrrghhhi want to linky the bug16:51
arrrghhhbug 3616:51
xdandroidBug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=36 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Repeated Media Volume button press crashes the system16:51
TheDeadCPUlol16:51
TheDeadCPU42 wasn't that far away then16:52
TheDeadCPUAlso, I'ma sleep16:52
TheDeadCPUgnite16:52
arrrghhhcya16:52
Tandyman100night16:55
* Tandyman100 wonders where Jesus is16:55
TheDeadCPUon a cross.16:56
TheDeadCPUI should NOT have said that16:56
stinebdhe'll have his vengeance upon you as he returns zombified16:57
arrrghhhlol16:57
arrrghhhgood ole zombie jesus16:57
Tandyman100haha17:06
* Tandyman100 wonders where JesusFreak is17:06
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Tandyman100..?17:32
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XirXesarrrghhh: what linux flavor do you use?18:03
arrrghhhubuntu18:03
XirXescan it mount squashfs 3.0?18:03
arrrghhhuhm never tried18:04
arrrghhhi think i remember some discussion on that tho18:04
arrrghhhsome special package needs to be installed18:04
arrrghhhbecause the one with ubuntu is too new...?18:04
arrrghhhwhat horrible things are you doing?18:05
XirXesyeah. that was the problem i had in slackware18:05
* arrrghhh guesses wifi in 2.1 sense build.18:05
XirXesyup18:05
arrrghhhyou're a silly man.18:05
XirXesi stopped working on it a while ago so i could play psp but im done now18:06
Tandyman100How hard could it be to get sense on froyo?18:07
* Tandyman100 is afraid he asked18:07
arrrghhhwe've talked about this... no?18:07
arrrghhhsense is part of the build.18:07
XirXesit took like 6 months for htc to do it18:07
arrrghhhso we need a 2.2 sense build.18:07
Tandyman100that's what I thought18:07
arrrghhhthat is close enough to our phones that's portable.18:07
stinebdattention wiki staff18:07
* Tandyman100 flashes energyrom with titanium to his phone18:07
Tandyman100I'm getting tired of manilla :D18:08
stinebdchanges implemented to user access yesterday18:08
arrrghhhthe wiki has a staff?18:08
stinebdall users can edit content outside of the main page (and its templates), but edits must be approved before they're visible to peons18:08
arrrghhh:P18:08
XirXesneat18:08
arrrghhhah that is nice.18:09
arrrghhhcrap changes so quickly18:09
Tandyman100haha18:10
* Tandyman100 wonders if its possible to get titanium on windows mobile 6.1 QVGA...18:10
XirXesno18:10
Tandyman100is there a winmo channel here?18:10
Tandyman100darn18:10
Tandyman100How about a homescreen plugin that emulates it...?18:11
XirXeswhy do you wonder that?18:11
Tandyman100put it on my i76018:11
Tandyman100well, it's not my moms i76018:11
Tandyman100that should explain everything ;)18:11
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Tandyman100ugh18:47
Tandyman100exchange is getting invalid security certificate errors now18:47
Tandyman100fantastic18:47
arrrghhhyou sail that failboat18:53
arrrghhharen't you just using gmail?18:53
Tandyman100I set the wrong adress18:57
Tandyman100gmail.com instead of m.google.com18:57
* Tandyman100 is a failure at everything18:57
* XirXes points and laughs18:58
* Tandyman100 sobs18:59
* Tandyman100 slits wrists18:59
Tandyman100nonotrly18:59
Tandyman100I just drug haret into the winmo startup folder19:00
Tandyman100wheee!19:00
* Tandyman100 downloads the dual-boot ROM19:00
arrrghhhi guess that's one thing to be said about winmo19:02
arrrghhhyou could hack and tweak the fawk out of it.19:02
XirXeswithout source19:03
stinebdi much prefer the with source variation of hacking19:03
arrrghhhmicrosoft just likes putting holes in their software lol19:03
arrrghhhyea... does make things easier.19:03
Tandyman100oh goddamn rapidshare19:04
Tandyman100LEMME DOWNLOAD THE DUALBOOT ROM!19:04
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XirXesdoes xdandroid use ext2 for the system file22:03
XirXesstupid question. must be tired22:09
Tandyman100lol22:12
Tandyman100The extension is ex2...22:12
Tandyman100;)22:12
XirXesexactly22:12
XirXesi got the sense build extracted. im going to repackage it in an ext2 for ease of use. plus squashfs is read only always22:13
Tandyman100yay I just cooked my first ROM!22:31
Tandyman100awesome XirXes22:31
XirXesfirst bootable rom??22:31
Tandyman100we'll see22:32
Tandyman100it's just a REALLY basic manilla 6.5 ROM22:32
Tandyman100I'll see how it works22:32
* Tandyman100 hopes he doesn't brick his machine22:32
Tandyman100erm, phone22:32
XirXesnice. cooking is fun22:32
Tandyman100oh yeah, nothing like risking something you spend all your money on :/22:36
Tandyman100Is there a way to un-brick a raph100?22:37
XirXesrelax. as long as your not touching the radio and the bootloader you wont need to worry about that22:37
Tandyman100ok22:37
Tandyman100so PPCkitchen is totally safe?22:38
XirXesand you wont be. your only editing os.nb22:38
Tandyman100coolio22:38
Tandyman100man, this ROM test is slowing down this piddly celeron so it's unusable22:38
Tandyman100SSSSSSLLLLLLOOOOOOOWWWWWWW22:38
XirXeslol22:38
XirXesi wouldnt know what thats like22:38
Tandyman100Why?22:38
Tandyman100Do you have an i7 or something?22:39
* XirXes thinks fondly of his core i722:39
Tandyman100or do you just not cook?22:39
Tandyman100Oh22:39
Tandyman100I have a Phenom dual-core with 2Gb of RAM downstaris22:39
Tandyman100stairs*22:39
Tandyman100but that's downstairs22:39
Tandyman100and I'm upstairs22:39
Tandyman100You see my dellima22:39
Tandyman100delimma22:39
Tandyman100...22:39
XirXeslol i DO know what thats like22:39
Tandyman100I'm making a ROM that is stripped down so it's basically just a bootloader for XDAndroid22:40
Tandyman100and another that is basically EnergyROM with Gen.Y cooked in22:41
XirXesi like gen y22:42
Tandyman100yeah22:43
Tandyman100WOW22:43
Tandyman100I think the problem is PPCKitchen is just programmed inefficiently22:43
Tandyman100what did they use, visual basic!?!22:43
XirXeslol. when i used to cook i was using an athlon X2. and it would deff slow it down a bit. cooking on my netbook made the thing unusable till it was done22:45
XirXesok i made the ext2 file and have copied the files into it. now i must put it on my phone and try to boot it22:51
Tandyman100cool22:53
Tandyman100argh22:54
XirXesthe main drawback of this is it went from ~140 mb to over 20022:55
Tandyman100PPCkitchen says the directory "/XIP" does not exists22:55
Tandyman100well where on earth does this directory supposed to go?!22:55
Tandyman100ouch22:55
XirXesthe root of the kitchen i assume22:55
XirXesit should of course also lead to performance gains22:56
XirXesas its not compressed22:56
Tandyman100cool22:56
Tandyman100So it will be SOUPAFAST22:56
Tandyman100owait22:57
Tandyman100"ROM folder does not exist /XIP/"22:57
Tandyman100hmmm22:57
Tandyman100Yep, I'm clueless...22:58
Tandyman100lemme just RTFM...22:58
XirXesdamn. i fubared the file permissions but it did detect the build correctly22:58
Tandyman100hmm22:59
XirXesi have no experience with ppckitchen at all. sorry i cant help more but ervios kitchen wasnt really ever set up logically23:01
Tandyman100lol23:04
Tandyman100I think I just need to download some more stuff...23:04
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Tandyman100argh23:10
Tandyman100I can't figure this out..23:10
XirXeswow sense is huge. 215 mb ext2 file wasnt big enough. i made a new one thats 256 mb23:10
Tandyman100imma install it on my win7 machine downstairs23:10
Tandyman100O_o23:10
Tandyman100that won't even fit on my phone23:10
Tandyman100doesn't matter anyways, those graphical glitches are nuts23:10
XirXesyeah. this is really so i can get wifi working for me so this can be my daily driver23:11
Tandyman100oh CRAP23:12
Tandyman100my touch pro is in a reboot loop23:12
Tandyman100FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF--23:12
XirXesits fine23:12
XirXesjust hold vol - when you turn it on23:13
Tandyman100its annoying23:13
Tandyman100its not doing anything23:14
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Tandyman100holding volume down is doing nothing23:15
XirXesHow to enter bootloader mode    1 Pull out the stylus    2 With the device turned off, press and hold the VOLUME DOWN and POWER buttons, then press the RESET button with the stylus tip.    3 Continue pressing the VOLUME DOWN and POWER buttons until bootloader appears.23:16
XirXesdid that work?23:17
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Tandyman100it's volume up, power, and the center key23:17
Tandyman100that's what restores it23:17
Tandyman100wait23:18
Tandyman100no23:18
Tandyman100that won't do crap23:18
XirXesthats why you should go to the boot loader. from there you can flash it23:18
XirXeswith the ruu23:18
Tandyman100got to the bootloader23:18
XirXesnow put a working rom on it. bootloop solved :)23:19
Tandyman100activesync isn't finding it... can I still flash?23:19
Tandyman100answer: yes23:20
Tandyman100other than energy rom, what are some good CDMA touch pro ROMS?23:20
XirXesidk23:20
Tandyman100hmm23:20
Tandyman100is there a ROM version of XDAndroid?23:20
XirXesif only23:20
Tandyman100lol23:20
XirXeshooray. 256 mb is big enough23:22
Tandyman100is there a way to slap a loadscreen over the 'scary scrolling text'?23:22
Tandyman100yay!23:22
XirXesand im fairly confident i didnt screw up the file permissions23:23
Tandyman100cool!23:23
arrrghhhfor rhod there is.23:23
arrrghhhbut it's not full nand23:23
arrrghhhjust gets rid of winmo lol23:24
XirXesill keep winmo around till xdandroid is feature complete23:25
XirXesand then ill put it back after I replace this phone with the g223:25
arrrghhhyea23:26
arrrghhhif it gets to the vogue level23:26
arrrghhhbut that took years.23:26
XirXesyeah but vogue people suck23:27
arrrghhh?23:27
XirXeswe're getting pretty close i feel23:27
XirXesmaybe another 6 months if wistilt2 sticks around23:27
arrrghhhlol23:27
arrrghhhyea that dude has made amazing progress on the kernel.23:27
XirXesits awesome23:28
arrrghhhhopefully kbd lights & button lights are next on his docket.23:28
XirXesthat would make me very happy23:28
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arrrghhhfamily guy time23:30
XirXesis there a way to copy while retaining file mode23:31
XirXeseg cp -x file/source file/dest23:32
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XirXesah. i want cp -p23:33
* Jake|E5400 flashes back to stock ROM23:33
XirXesTO OLD DEBIAN23:34
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Jake|E5400what?23:35
Jake|E5400lol23:35
Jake|E5400debian FTW23:35
XirXesWhy Jake why23:35
XirXesthe rom thing23:35
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XirXesI like slackware. im using debian right now because it was the only outdated os i had on hand23:37
Jake|E5400Winmo 6.5.3 is getting annoying23:37
Jake|E5400it's too slow23:37
Jake|E5400i want mah 6.123:37
Jake|E5400and since I can't cook my own 6.1 ROM.....23:37
XirXesi can understand that. plus skipping 6.5 is good cause you'd still have the super bloated start menu23:39
Jake|E5400yeah23:40
Jake|E5400If I could only go to windows mobile 2005.....23:40
Jake|E5400:P23:40
XirXeslol WOAH buddy23:40
XirXesi do like that debian responds to reboot and poweroff in terminal23:45
XirXesimmediatly23:46
Jake|E5400yeah23:48
XirXesthose commands dont do anything in slack23:48
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