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| RogueAgent[TP2] | is there any sane way to get the keyboard backilight to work yet? | 04:21 |
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| xdandroid | New XDAndroid Releases bug 47 filed... | 05:55 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=47 critical, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Nearly impossibe to wake the device | 05:55 |
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| xdandroid | New XDAndroid Releases bug 48 filed... | 09:11 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=48 major, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Phone fails to wake after sleep mode (intermittent) | 09:11 |
| xdandroid | New XDAndroid Releases bug 49 filed... | 09:12 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=49 minor, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, No Data connection to the device, however 3G icon is displayed. | 09:12 |
| NeoMatrixJR | RougeAgent[TP2]: WisTitl2's going to be working on keyboard backlights soon. He recently brought us auto-backlight and now working voice search! Expect it to be a little while yet. | 09:46 |
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| hamagc | what clock application comes with the system? | 14:23 |
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| stinebd | desk clock | 16:51 |
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| hamagc | i like that clock | 16:53 |
| stinebd | donate to us then | 16:56 |
| stinebd | even though we had no part in it | 16:56 |
| hamagc | lol i have donated! | 16:58 |
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| Antaris88 | Hello together, can somebody told me if xdandroid 2.2 can run on HTC HD7? | 17:10 |
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| hamagc | lol wanting to run xdandroid on a wp7 device? thats quick. | 17:12 |
| hamagc | i'd have to say no, not xdandroid | 17:13 |
| hamagc | atleast not at this time | 17:13 |
| hamagc | incase you read logs | 17:13 |
| stinebd | never say never | 17:15 |
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| arrrghhh | i'd like to get my hd7 working with XDAndroid too. | 19:14 |
| TheDeadCPU | Yea. Why don't my winpho7 device run XDAndroid? | 19:17 |
| hamagc | haha | 19:17 |
| arrrghhh | seriously. | 19:17 |
| arrrghhh | i donated like $300 | 19:17 |
| arrrghhh | man i gotta catch up on all these bugs! | 19:18 |
| hamagc | new bug: xdandroid does not run on hd7, please fix asap. | 19:19 |
| hamagc | man this is stupid | 19:19 |
| arrrghhh | damn... stinebd did you see bug 47? | 19:19 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=47 critical, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Nearly impossibe to wake the device | 19:19 |
| hamagc | why hasn't anyone made froyo for the moment yet? | 19:19 |
| arrrghhh | doesn't emwe have a topaz? | 19:19 |
| hamagc | i believe he does | 19:20 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. | 19:20 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder if wistilt's new code isn' jiving with something on that device. | 19:20 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: have. dont care | 19:20 |
| arrrghhh | s/isn'/isn't | 19:20 |
| arrrghhh | oh apathy. | 19:20 |
| stinebd | the 7 topaz users are so hurt, i'm sure | 19:21 |
| arrrghhh | lol is 48 a dupe of 47...? | 19:21 |
| stinebd | no | 19:21 |
| stinebd | 48 is raph | 19:21 |
| arrrghhh | yea i know | 19:21 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | lol | 19:21 |
| arrrghhh | 48 just seems like SOD | 19:21 |
| stinebd | and appears to be some sort of sleep thrashing or something | 19:21 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | tp2 works fine :P | 19:21 |
| stinebd | doesn't say it can't wake at all | 19:21 |
| stinebd | just says it sucks power and takes a while to wake | 19:21 |
| arrrghhh | he listed another bug for the data cxn too lol | 19:21 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 19:22 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. | 19:22 |
| stinebd | you can close all of them if you want | 19:22 |
| * arrrghhh resigns as bug monkey | 19:22 | |
| stinebd | and all the other open ones | 19:22 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:22 |
| arrrghhh | UPGRADE YOUR BUGZILLA! | 19:22 |
| stinebd | meh | 19:23 |
| stinebd | i don't even know how | 19:23 |
| arrrghhh | there's a linky | 19:23 |
| hamagc | hmm 49 sounds like the bug raph800 had with data. hard to tell with all the details he gives. | 19:23 |
| stinebd | file a bug and i'll get to it eventually | 19:23 |
| arrrghhh | or lackthereof | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd: file a bug on the bugzilla about the bugzilla? makes sense. | 19:24 |
| hamagc | haha | 19:24 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 19:24 |
| xdandroid | arrrghhh changed the Status on bug 15 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. | 19:24 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15 normal, Normal, ---, developers, RESOLVED FIXED, Mic only works on apps after making a call in Android | 19:24 |
| arrrghhh | is bug 46 resolved? | 19:25 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=46 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Battery charging with 2.2.1 | 19:25 |
| arrrghhh | i think it is partially, not sure if it is completely... | 19:25 |
| hamagc | doesn't stop charging, just people think it does and no one realizes that if they leave it on the charger, it charges | 19:27 |
| hamagc | i though that was fixed with camro's battery fixes? | 19:27 |
| arrrghhh | i thought camro fixed that | 19:27 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 19:27 |
| hamagc | we should make people list what rootfs and kernel they have installed too | 19:28 |
| arrrghhh | make people? | 19:29 |
| hamagc | make if possible, atleast give them the option or something. i'd bet he has an older kernel? | 19:29 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. | 19:30 |
| arrrghhh | it was posted on 10.30... i think the fix was already in place. | 19:30 |
| arrrghhh | i just don't know if it's completely fixed, or only partially. | 19:30 |
| arrrghhh | i haven't seen camro in a while tho... | 19:30 |
| arrrghhh | he said something about his phone being dead...? i hope that's not true. | 19:30 |
| hamagc | it was which makes me thik it's an old kernel that he hasn't updated. but i could be wrong. just haven't seen or heard any complaints from diam100 users | 19:30 |
| hamagc | i hope not too, i read that. i dunno, i see him in here every now and again but he doesn't say anything | 19:31 |
| hamagc | he was in here yesterday or the day before but kept quiet. | 19:31 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 19:31 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. | 19:31 |
| arrrghhh | maybe he broke both his hands | 19:31 |
| hamagc | lol | 19:31 |
| hamagc | riding his bike | 19:31 |
| hamagc | with cazh | 19:31 |
| arrrghhh | zing! | 19:32 |
| arrrghhh | cazh_: you gonna take this abuse lyin down? | 19:32 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | hmm | 19:32 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | how do we fill out bugs | 19:32 |
| arrrghhh | go to the bugtracker | 19:32 |
| arrrghhh | read every single bug 3x | 19:33 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3 normal, Normal, ---, developers, RESOLVED FIXED, Locate Service - NetworkLocation.apk | 19:33 |
| arrrghhh | and if one hasn't been filed for your issue, do so. | 19:33 |
| arrrghhh | wait where's the camera doesn't work bug? :P | 19:33 |
| xdandroid | New XDAndroid Releases bug 50 filed... | 19:34 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=50 blocker, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Camera doesn't work | 19:34 |
| * arrrghhh hides | 19:34 | |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 19:34 |
| hamagc | haha! | 19:34 |
| hamagc | i'd hide too, wasn't the deal we have bug tracker as long as camera wasn't mentioned? | 19:35 |
| arrrghhh | i never signed anything. | 19:35 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | hmm | 19:35 |
| hamagc | lol | 19:35 |
| * TheDeadCPU hides too | 19:35 | |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | Is timesync a kernel or android issue? | 19:35 |
| arrrghhh | RogueAgent[TP2]: there's already a bug on that. | 19:35 |
| hamagc | ril i believe no? | 19:35 |
| arrrghhh | use clocksync :P | 19:35 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | I know its under kernel | 19:35 |
| arrrghhh | RogueAgent[TP2]: bug 26 | 19:35 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=26 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Time Sync | 19:35 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 19:35 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | I was wondewring so i could toss it under android :P | 19:36 |
| hamagc | no i don't believe so | 19:36 |
| arrrghhh | don't dupe it dude. | 19:36 |
| arrrghhh | i'll stab you | 19:36 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | ouch | 19:36 |
| arrrghhh | in reality i'll just close it as a dupe, but i'll glare at you via tcp/ip. | 19:36 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol facestab | 19:36 |
| hamagc | jaja | 19:36 |
| hamagc | haha* | 19:36 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | ! | 19:36 |
| hamagc | really what that means is i'll turn off my monitor for 5 minutes and scream at the dog | 19:37 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 19:37 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | Wtb earphone jack working | 19:37 |
| hamagc | ? | 19:37 |
| arrrghhh | wtb? | 19:37 |
| hamagc | want to buy? | 19:37 |
| arrrghhh | you're talking 3.5mm jack? | 19:38 |
| TheDeadCPU | WTB= Whhat The Bolivia? | 19:38 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | yes | 19:38 |
| arrrghhh | lol that's what i think of when i see wtb | 19:38 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 19:38 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | its the only reason anymore i have to restart my device | 19:38 |
| TheDeadCPU | Bolivia<3 | 19:38 |
| arrrghhh | RogueAgent[TP2]: that only applies to rhod400/500. not a priority for most. | 19:38 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | I'm aware :( | 19:38 |
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| hamagc | bah, goodnight guys | 19:39 |
| arrrghhh | it'd be nice, but there's bigger fish to fry. | 19:39 |
| arrrghhh | hamagc: have a good one. | 19:39 |
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| arrrghhh | d'oh | 19:39 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | wow | 19:39 |
| arrrghhh | stupid webchat | 19:40 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 19:40 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | with clock sync i can watch my phone lose seconds | 19:40 |
| arrrghhh | RogueAgent[TP2]: oh yea it's fun eh | 19:40 |
| arrrghhh | i have it set to resync every hour i think. | 19:40 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | thats what mine is at now | 19:40 |
| arrrghhh | then you're good. | 19:40 |
| arrrghhh | man someone complained android didn't wake them up in the morning... i almost spat water at my monitors. | 19:40 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 19:41 |
| TheDeadCPU | That happend to me when the clockbug was like 8 hours in one night | 19:41 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | I specifically bought an alarm clock cuz of the block bug | 19:41 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | clock* | 19:41 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 19:41 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | Time to go make a request of clocksync | 19:42 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | After phone has an offset of 15seconds please resync | 19:42 |
| TheDeadCPU | kinky | 19:43 |
| arrrghhh | yea i just reboot to winmo every night. | 19:43 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | :| | 19:43 |
| arrrghhh | plus with the calls issue, i can't seem to run android for even a full day. | 19:43 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | Stupid accounts an d syc | 19:43 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | Why won't you let me add a facebook sync account mr phone | 19:43 |
| arrrghhh | RogueAgent[TP2]: doesn't work. | 19:43 |
| arrrghhh | there's a 3rd party app that does it i believe. | 19:44 |
| arrrghhh | dunno, i don't use failbook. at least not on my phone, good god. | 19:44 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | I'm aware its broke | 19:44 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | :P | 19:44 |
| arrrghhh | damnit jim! | 19:44 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | I'm a doctor not a mindreader! | 19:44 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | but gj guys im loving the work you do | 19:47 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | time to go see how nand boot is doing | 19:48 |
| arrrghhh | i think the screen issue still persists. | 19:49 |
| arrrghhh | so nand is not viable for me. not sure how guys run that 24/7 lol | 19:50 |
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| stinebd | google really likes to headhunt | 20:44 |
| stinebd | i'm getting into the double digits of job emails from them now | 20:45 |
| arrrghhh | wha'd they do now? | 20:45 |
| arrrghhh | really? | 20:45 |
| arrrghhh | dude... | 20:45 |
| stinebd | don't worry, i won't say yes | 20:45 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:45 |
| arrrghhh | i probably would | 20:45 |
| arrrghhh | seems like a dream company to work for | 20:46 |
| stinebd | they don't live close enough to me | 20:46 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 20:46 |
| arrrghhh | i think they have a site in boulder, that wouldn't be bad for me | 20:46 |
| arrrghhh | or do they want you to move to cali? | 20:46 |
| stinebd | who knows | 20:46 |
| stinebd | probably california | 20:46 |
| stinebd | i'm sure this time it's the android stuff that interests them | 20:47 |
| arrrghhh | hell yea i bet it does | 20:47 |
| arrrghhh | what do you do now if you don't mind me asking? | 20:47 |
| stinebd | unrelated field | 20:48 |
| arrrghhh | ...? | 20:48 |
| stinebd | what i do now is just money while i look for a real job | 20:49 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 20:49 |
| arrrghhh | so you wouldn't want to relocate to work on android? | 20:49 |
| stinebd | unfortunately, it has been for years | 20:49 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 20:49 |
| arrrghhh | i think i've finally found a real job... at least for the time being. | 20:49 |
| stinebd | i live in an area with a terrible job market | 20:49 |
| arrrghhh | never really had one i felt i could stay at for more than 5 years. | 20:49 |
| arrrghhh | penn? | 20:49 |
| stinebd | eastern pa | 20:50 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 20:50 |
| arrrghhh | my aunt works there but lives in south jersey. | 20:50 |
| arrrghhh | well philly | 20:50 |
| stinebd | http://www.bls.gov/ro3/palaus.htm | 20:50 |
| stinebd | i'm in the southeast corner of that black blob north of philly | 20:50 |
| arrrghhh | at least you don't live in ohio | 20:54 |
| arrrghhh | fawk | 20:54 |
| arrrghhh | or flint | 20:54 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:54 |
| arrrghhh | wow north dakota's unemployment rate is 3.7% | 21:01 |
| stinebd | north dakota's population is 3.7 people | 21:01 |
| arrrghhh | true. | 21:03 |
| xdandroid | New XDAndroid Releases bug 51 filed... | 21:07 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=51 major, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Multiple system time issues | 21:07 |
| xdandroid | arrrghhh marked bug 51 as a duplicate of bug 26. | 21:12 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=51 major, Normal, ---, developers, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Multiple system time issues | 21:12 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=26 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Time Sync | 21:12 |
| arrrghhh | lol it triggered itself. | 21:13 |
| arrrghhh | i never get the time zone issue... i wonder how to recreate that. | 21:13 |
| arrrghhh | i definitely have clock drift... but the time zone going wonky? in winmo? don't get that. | 21:14 |
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| stinebd | turn off network time sync in sense and you'll see | 21:16 |
| stinebd | it's something we can't do anything about | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | so that's the fix? | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | turn on network time sync in winmo? yea that's not our problem. | 21:17 |
| stinebd | there's no fix because it's not technically broken | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | yea. | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | +1 | 21:17 |
| stinebd | android expects the device's RTC to be UTC, while winmo keeps the device RTC in local time zone | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | oic | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | android just works backwards from utc | 21:18 |
| arrrghhh | i've noticed A LOT of systems do that on the backend | 21:18 |
| arrrghhh | our callmanager system does, as does the NICE recording system. | 21:18 |
| stinebd | unix systems in general do that | 21:18 |
| arrrghhh | ah i did not know that. | 21:18 |
| stinebd | dual-booting systems typically use local time zones | 21:18 |
| arrrghhh | what's your theory on the time drift in android? | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | is it just not getting time from the provider correctly? | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | and the phone just drifts like hell without it lol | 21:19 |
| stinebd | ticks are getting lost somewhere | 21:19 |
| stinebd | that's a bug | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | hm | 21:20 |
| arrrghhh | odd | 21:20 |
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| stinebd | i would imagine it's worse with overclocking | 21:20 |
| arrrghhh | i wonder why the system process seems to be overloaded too | 21:20 |
| arrrghhh | sometimes the phone screams, other times it's brought to an absolute halt, and it seems to be background/system proccesses that are the culprit... | 21:20 |
| stinebd | unknown | 21:21 |
| arrrghhh | fix it!! | 21:21 |
| arrrghhh | you know what i'm talkin ' | 21:21 |
| arrrghhh | bout? | 21:21 |
| stinebd | yes | 21:21 |
| arrrghhh | well that's good. | 21:22 |
| stinebd | if i had to guess, i'd say jit | 21:22 |
| arrrghhh | hmmm | 21:22 |
| arrrghhh | not being enabled properly/completely...? | 21:22 |
| stinebd | armv5te isnt' actually supported by jit | 21:22 |
| arrrghhh | ouch. | 21:23 |
| stinebd | it works without any confirmed issues, but who knows if it actually works | 21:23 |
| stinebd | blaming it is mostly a shot in the dark though | 21:23 |
| arrrghhh | hero has the same proc | 21:23 |
| arrrghhh | do they not have 2.2? | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | oem at least | 21:24 |
| stinebd | if they do, it's not jit enabled | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | hmmm | 21:24 |
| stinebd | i had to fork dalvik to remove a safety check from the makefiles which disables jit on armv5te | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | and with jit disabled the system was even slower? | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | risky risky! | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | or ballsy | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | whichever | 21:24 |
| stinebd | well the check wasn't there in eclair (and jit worked fine then) | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | hm | 21:25 |
| * arrrghhh thought jit was 2.2 only | 21:25 | |
| stinebd | jit was implemented in eclair but not released on official devices | 21:25 |
| arrrghhh | oic | 21:25 |
| stinebd | i think i can unfork dalvik now actually | 21:26 |
| stinebd | since we're on armv6j | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | i know jit is supposed to give us performance increases... but does it? | 21:27 |
| stinebd | sure does | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | so it does work then? lol | 21:27 |
| stinebd | well it works | 21:27 |
| stinebd | but who knows if it *works* | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 21:27 |
| stinebd | no guarantee there's nothing wrong with it | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 21:28 |
| stinebd | oh i can't unfork dalvik, some of those armv6j changes are in there | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | so get a job with google | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | and fix xdandroid | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 21:28 |
| stinebd | if i get a job with google, my work with xdandroid is done | 21:28 |
| stinebd | they very much dislike developers participating in open source projects (other than their own) | 21:29 |
| arrrghhh | oh non-compete? | 21:29 |
| stinebd | basically | 21:29 |
| arrrghhh | weird | 21:29 |
| arrrghhh | i even remember reading something about how like 15-20% of 'company time' you can spend working on 'pet projects' | 21:29 |
| arrrghhh | i guess that's where gmail started... | 21:30 |
| stinebd | pet projects in the company heh | 21:30 |
| arrrghhh | yea lol | 21:30 |
| arrrghhh | damn | 21:30 |
| arrrghhh | the whole summer of code thing too | 21:30 |
| arrrghhh | you figure they'd love other open systems... that sucks. | 21:30 |
| arrrghhh | they've just gotten too large lol | 21:30 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | lol | 21:45 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | I have no idea what you guys are talking about | 21:45 |
| arrrghhh | bacon | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | bacon smothered in brown sugar & baked. | 21:50 |
| arrrghhh | bacon candy...mmmmmmm | 21:50 |
| arrrghhh | damnit if only that norwegian's bot was still in here lol. such a useless bot. | 21:51 |
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| suhas_sm | Hi guys | 22:45 |
| suhas_sm | new to this things | 22:45 |
| suhas_sm | great to find you guys here | 22:45 |
| suhas_sm | have some queries .. anyone here ? | 22:45 |
| XirXes | what do you want to ask? | 22:50 |
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| madchiller | anybody out there? | 22:52 |
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| suhas_sm | hi | 22:54 |
| suhas_sm | diamond has same processor as htc wildfire right ? | 22:54 |
| suhas_sm | then how come android on wildfire is so smooth and not on diamond lol | 22:54 |
| suhas_sm | wanna know what architecture makes a phone an android phone.. ? | 22:55 |
| suhas_sm | both are 528 Mhz | 22:56 |
| XirXes | part of it is that the diamond and such have higher res screens. and the rest is that porting android to these devices isnt done yet | 22:58 |
| XirXes | i usually overclock my phone in android. that helps quite a bit. but the architecture is fundamentally the same. | 23:01 |
| suhas_sm | hmm | 23:03 |
| suhas_sm | how can i over clock my diamond ? | 23:03 |
| suhas_sm | how far can i go ? | 23:03 |
| suhas_sm | 600mhz ? | 23:03 |
| XirXes | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711692 | 23:03 |
| suhas_sm | I am gonna buy a new phone this holidays so dont mind fiddling with diamond heh | 23:04 |
| XirXes | 4th post in that thread has info | 23:04 |
| suhas_sm | k cool | 23:04 |
| suhas_sm | I ll get going with that ;-) | 23:04 |
| XirXes | my phone can be stable at like 750 | 23:04 |
| XirXes | but milage may vary | 23:04 |
| suhas_sm | Overclocking acpuclock.oc_freq_khz=XXXXXX ( i personally use 600000-640000 ) but it very unstable if you try to get higher than 650000-700000 | 23:05 |
| suhas_sm | thats it ? | 23:05 |
| suhas_sm | 650000 is 650 mhz by any chance ? | 23:06 |
| XirXes | yeah. its set in khz as opposed to mhz so you may have to do math if you want to be specific. just be sure you use 6 digits and dont go past 800000 | 23:06 |
| suhas_sm | how many hours of battery can i expect from that ? | 23:07 |
| XirXes | 800000=786mhz | 23:07 |
| XirXes | less | 23:07 |
| suhas_sm | how less ? | 23:07 |
| XirXes | its really the screen that kills cause your playing with a new toy | 23:08 |
| suhas_sm | hmm | 23:08 |
| XirXes | i deff wouldnt expect a day out of 786 | 23:08 |
| suhas_sm | I had tried using Xdandroid 6 months back .. | 23:08 |
| suhas_sm | it didnt get me more half and hour | 23:08 |
| XirXes | its improved quite a bit over the last 6 months. im one of the crazy ones that updates every time its possible | 23:09 |
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| arrrghhh | what's up guys. camera get fixed while i was eating? | 23:10 |
| XirXes | no.... :( | 23:11 |
| XirXes | lol | 23:11 |
| suhas_sm | wow !!!!!!!!!! | 23:12 |
| XirXes | ? | 23:12 |
| suhas_sm | u update it .. thats y wow :) | 23:12 |
| suhas_sm | what does it take for this .. shell programming ? | 23:12 |
| suhas_sm | I m into java web development.... totally different so have no idea :( | 23:13 |
| XirXes | idk. im not a dev. i mean im always running the latest version. | 23:13 |
| suhas_sm | oh | 23:14 |
| suhas_sm | my mistake | 23:14 |
| XirXes | stinebd is one of the ones that works on it. he does userland. the stuff i find the most interesting happens in kernel dev. making the hardware work | 23:15 |
| suhas_sm | hmm | 23:16 |
| suhas_sm | there are android developers also here ? | 23:16 |
| suhas_sm | I think i m gonna love this chat thingie.. | 23:16 |
| suhas_sm | i wanna be a android developer after i get my new phone :) | 23:17 |
| XirXes | i think i made my phone tired. turned down my overclock from 786 to 725 and it feels alot more responsive. | 23:17 |
| XirXes | building apps. or tinkering with the os | 23:17 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | does it xirxes? | 23:18 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | tmob tp2 right? | 23:18 |
| XirXes | yeah for both | 23:18 |
| XirXes | 742400 | 23:18 |
| XirXes | that put it at 725. im noticing my wifi is working better too | 23:19 |
| XirXes | my wifi hasnt been stable for a few days but when the system started getting slow i decided to check it | 23:20 |
| arrrghhh | XirXes, oc seems to just make it more unstable | 23:21 |
| arrrghhh | especially high oc's as well :P | 23:21 |
| XirXes | yeah. thats why i didnt say anything about it. | 23:21 |
| XirXes | gotta love big numbers tho right> | 23:22 |
| suhas_sm | how about OCing it for windows use ? | 23:22 |
| XirXes | ? | 23:22 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:22 |
| arrrghhh | suhas_sm, wat | 23:22 |
| suhas_sm | how to do that ? | 23:22 |
| arrrghhh | this is #xdandroid dude. | 23:22 |
| arrrghhh | search xda-devs | 23:22 |
| suhas_sm | lol | 23:22 |
| suhas_sm | ok ok | 23:22 |
| arrrghhh | i don't oc winmo | 23:24 |
| arrrghhh | all i know is you MUST disable the OC in winmo before booting android. | 23:24 |
| XirXes | me either. i just keep my rom fresh. | 23:25 |
| suhas_sm | XirXes -- I have to download every file from post #3 ? | 23:25 |
| XirXes | really. i didnt know that | 23:25 |
| XirXes | no | 23:25 |
| XirXes | if you already have android workding you dont need to do that | 23:25 |
| arrrghhh | energyROM FTW | 23:26 |
| suhas_sm | I deleted those folder just now | 23:26 |
| XirXes | agreed | 23:26 |
| suhas_sm | folders | 23:26 |
| suhas_sm | enrgy ROM for which device ? | 23:26 |
| arrrghhh | he makes 'em for a ton | 23:26 |
| arrrghhh | raph rhod at the very least | 23:26 |
| arrrghhh | whaddya got | 23:26 |
| suhas_sm | diamond lol | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | i think he does as well | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | raph w/o the kbd | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | and sd slot | 23:27 |
| XirXes | yeah he does | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | man that phone... | 23:27 |
| arrrghhh | i'm sorry dude. | 23:27 |
| XirXes | lol | 23:27 |
| suhas_sm | getting new one so plannint to screw this one | 23:27 |
| suhas_sm | i know | 23:27 |
| suhas_sm | i m so fcking annoyed with it | 23:27 |
| suhas_sm | waste of a phone | 23:27 |
| XirXes | how bigs the built in memory on those? | 23:28 |
| arrrghhh | 4gb | 23:28 |
| arrrghhh | or is it variable? | 23:28 |
| arrrghhh | can't remember. | 23:28 |
| arrrghhh | it's literally a soldered sd | 23:28 |
| XirXes | i bet verizon has 2 | 23:28 |
| suhas_sm | planning to get whatever is announced on nov 8th | 23:28 |
| XirXes | there dicks to that phone. | 23:28 |
| suhas_sm | ROM: 256MB RAM: 192MB DDR SDRAM | 23:28 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:28 |
| arrrghhh | suhas_sm, no the 'sd' on it | 23:28 |
| arrrghhh | there's built-in storage | 23:29 |
| suhas_sm | i know | 23:29 |
| suhas_sm | 4 gb | 23:29 |
| arrrghhh | jaja | 23:29 |
| suhas_sm | its actually a soldered SD | 23:29 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 23:29 |
| arrrghhh | probably mircosd | 23:29 |
| arrrghhh | but yes | 23:29 |
| XirXes | what a stupid decision. | 23:29 |
| arrrghhh | htc seems to make a lot of them. | 23:30 |
| XirXes | tho i only have 4 gigs | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | i'm really surprised how different each device | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | lol my raph came with a 512mb card :P | 23:30 |
| XirXes | wistilt2 seems to think so | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | i like that i was able to put an 8gb one in. | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 23:30 |
| XirXes | so glad he found this project tho | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | he's looking at it from the qualcomm side | 23:30 |
| arrrghhh | not the HTC side | 23:30 |
| XirXes | ahh | 23:31 |
| arrrghhh | holy hell yes. | 23:31 |
| arrrghhh | he's got 7200 msm's in some 3g radio equipment for some of his customers | 23:31 |
| arrrghhh | and thought, hey my phones have that proc. i want to port linux to them, and searched for it and found us... | 23:31 |
| XirXes | awesome | 23:32 |
| arrrghhh | i know it. | 23:32 |
| arrrghhh | i've told him that on several occasions too lol | 23:32 |
| suhas_sm | would it be possible to dual boot device like DHD to WP7 also | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | i've worked for a company that did some p2p wireless stuff that his company does... but what he does is WAY more than what the company i worked for did... | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | wp7... probably not | 23:33 |
| suhas_sm | would like check that also.. even i m android loyalist :P | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | maybe but doubtful | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | seems like it *may* require a 1ghz+ proc | 23:33 |
| suhas_sm | I m talking DHD | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | and look how long it's taken to port a project where they HAVE the source of one side. | 23:33 |
| suhas_sm | not my diamond | 23:33 |
| XirXes | i bought my phone because the hardware was sexy. didnt care about the os. not that its my first winmo | 23:33 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | desire hd | 23:34 |
| suhas_sm | yeah | 23:34 |
| suhas_sm | heh | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | jeez man | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | who knows | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | freakin coutella seems to have started getting wp7 to work on the hd2 | 23:34 |
| arrrghhh | which is crazy, but that dude is crazy. | 23:34 |
| XirXes | i kinda doubt people trying to put wp7 on androids for a good while | 23:35 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 23:35 |
| arrrghhh | who knoes | 23:35 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | suhas_sm | 23:35 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | the 2 phones from verizon | 23:35 |
| arrrghhh | i've seen winmo themes for android... | 23:35 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | that come out on nov 8th suck | 23:35 |
| arrrghhh | _no joke) | 23:35 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | They blow | 23:35 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | They are terrible | 23:35 |
| XirXes | im not saying noone will do it. i just kinda doubt the motivation is there | 23:35 |
| suhas_sm | hmm | 23:35 |
| suhas_sm | i was expecting nexus S like everyone.. :) | 23:36 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | Its the citrus and the continuum | 23:36 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | I'd wait for the droid pro | 23:36 |
| suhas_sm | if not that then I might go DZ or DHD | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | vz's gonna start rollin lte soon i bet... | 23:36 |
| suhas_sm | droid pro global would be better than DHD specs ? | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | like early 2011 | 23:36 |
| suhas_sm | I want something thats sim free/network free | 23:36 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | Veri isn't getting DHD as afaik | 23:36 |
| arrrghhh | as afaik? | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:37 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | arrrghhh, if its got a football team its got LTE at the end of this year | 23:37 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | As far as i know | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | i know | 23:37 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | Sorry I work for Veri | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | you said as as far as i know | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 23:37 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | 2013 for everything else | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | in what dept? | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | we're cutting all our mpls circuits to vzn | 23:38 |
| suhas_sm | what do u guys have to say about DHD ? | 23:38 |
| suhas_sm | good phone ? | 23:38 |
| arrrghhh | i'd prefer the Z | 23:38 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | I do tech* | 23:38 |
| arrrghhh | but i can't handle the lack of the keyboard... | 23:38 |
| XirXes | what about that qwerty htc RogueAgent[TP2] ? | 23:38 |
| suhas_sm | Z hasnt start getting delivered yet so dont know much about the issues | 23:38 |
| arrrghhh | i'm spoiled by my tp2's kbd | 23:38 |
| XirXes | same | 23:38 |
| arrrghhh | i don't want to give it up... | 23:39 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | thats why i haven't gotten a new droid yet | 23:39 |
| arrrghhh | stupid 528mhz processor... | 23:39 |
| XirXes | wont settle for less. i want the g2 | 23:39 |
| arrrghhh | quick someone cram a snapdragon into mah phone! | 23:39 |
| XirXes | i curse the msm7200 daily | 23:39 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | have someone tried the epic kb? | 23:39 |
| arrrghhh | or slap my keyboard onto an hd2... | 23:39 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps that would be easier | 23:40 |
| XirXes | sold | 23:40 |
| arrrghhh | RogueAgent[TP2], i did in the sprint store | 23:40 |
| arrrghhh | it was ok... | 23:40 |
| arrrghhh | and let's just say sammy build quality... eh. | 23:40 |
| arrrghhh | the screen was of course GORGEOUS tho | 23:40 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | i get the feeling the droid pro by htc is going to have to be my droid phone | 23:40 |
| XirXes | amoled is to red for my taste | 23:41 |
| arrrghhh | i have to stick with sprint. | 23:41 |
| XirXes | i like slcd the best atm | 23:41 |
| XirXes | ha ha | 23:41 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | I can't stand sprint | 23:41 |
| arrrghhh | vzw would be too expensive methinks... even with my "company discount" | 23:41 |
| arrrghhh | eh they all suck P: | 23:41 |
| arrrghhh | er | 23:41 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 23:41 |
| arrrghhh | licking my eyeballs in the first one LOL | 23:41 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | lol | 23:41 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | its about 90$ a month for a good vzw plan | 23:42 |
| arrrghhh | i think i get like 15% or something discount | 23:42 |
| suhas_sm | do i have to download startup utility also ? #xdandroid | 23:42 |
| arrrghhh | the sprint "total everything" or whatever the hell it's called is $70 | 23:42 |
| arrrghhh | simply everything | 23:42 |
| arrrghhh | suhas_sm, that's not supported or sanctioned by XDAndroid | 23:43 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | yeah but sprint doesn't have the network size we do | 23:43 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 23:43 |
| arrrghhh | in my area sprint is best | 23:43 |
| arrrghhh | but vzw works well | 23:43 |
| arrrghhh | i have a company phone that's vz lol | 23:43 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | hey at least its not att | 23:44 |
| arrrghhh | seriously. | 23:44 |
| arrrghhh | so what dept do you work @ ? | 23:44 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | I do tech support | 23:44 |
| arrrghhh | fun | 23:44 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | yeah thats one way of putting it | 23:44 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | the other way is there is a lot of dumb motherfuckers out there | 23:44 |
| XirXes | lol | 23:45 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | They cluster around GA | 23:45 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:45 |
| arrrghhh | are you an upper tier? | 23:45 |
| arrrghhh | or just the grunts :P | 23:45 |
| arrrghhh | you do phone tech support specificallY? | 23:46 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | phone, blackberry, MBB | 23:47 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 23:47 |
| arrrghhh | so i'll never talk to you. | 23:47 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | If its sold by verizon I've troubleshot it | 23:47 |
| arrrghhh | i have to say the trouble ticketing system on the WAN stuff is maddening. | 23:48 |
| arrrghhh | enterprise center or whatever? | 23:48 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | nope | 23:48 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | Dont deal with business | 23:48 |
| arrrghhh | ja | 23:48 |
| arrrghhh | that's where i'll be dealing with vzn a lot more now than before. | 23:48 |
| arrrghhh | used to be all qwest lol | 23:49 |
| arrrghhh | qwest is still the local loop tho... should be interesting. | 23:49 |
| arrrghhh | so far the conversion process has went horrible. | 23:49 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | Fuck | 23:49 |
| arrrghhh | because qwest local and qwest can't communicate, qwest local and verizon really can't. lol | 23:49 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | have you seen what we did with the alltel conversion? | 23:49 |
| arrrghhh | no... | 23:50 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | thats all sorts of fucked up | 23:50 |
| arrrghhh | i heard they were absorbed tho | 23:50 |
| arrrghhh | absorbed by the behemoth | 23:50 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | yep | 23:50 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | but we are still converting them | 23:50 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | so you'll have peope in an alltel area buy a verizon phone and then be SOL | 23:51 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | with no signal | 23:51 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:52 |
| arrrghhh | i thought you guys both used 800mhz | 23:52 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | no idea | 23:52 |
| RogueAgent[TP2] | pretty sure its different | 23:52 |
| arrrghhh | well i know alltel had roaming agreements with verizon and sprint | 23:54 |
| suhas_sm | Bundles has everything in it ? #xdandroid | 23:54 |
| arrrghhh | should | 23:56 |
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