| wladston | yeah | 00:03 |
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| wladston | that's for an upgrade | 00:03 |
| wladston | http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/downloads | 00:03 |
| bob_ | ic | 00:04 |
| bob_ | i will play around. thx | 00:05 |
| wladston | :) np | 00:09 |
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| wladston | stinebd: I'm way closer on the GPS issue. Now it looks like AGPS is disabled or is working with problems on the device ... I'm searching about it | 01:52 |
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| XirXes | wow. i just deleted 95 chdsk files off my sd and gained 70 mb | 04:21 |
| XirXes | perhaps it should be made so that init deletes the second one every time. so if someone wants to get the useful data they delete the first one and viola. relevant data. | 04:23 |
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| RogueAgent[tp2] | I have a rhod500 that when i try to use gps it immediately restarts the phone, I'm going through froums posts and the only time period i see for this is back in may, is the gps for the froyo builds broken atm? | 04:35 |
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| XirXes | gps doesnt work but it also shouldnt be restarting your phone. | 04:41 |
| wladston | XirXes: do you know how/why the gps_msm7k is started ? | 04:42 |
| XirXes | no idea. | 04:43 |
| wladston | XirXes: do you know anything about how gps works on android ? | 04:43 |
| XirXes | nope | 04:43 |
| wladston | It's been a pain to try to figure it out | 04:43 |
| XirXes | im not a dev | 04:43 |
| XirXes | i bet | 04:43 |
| wladston | ok | 04:44 |
| wladston | yeah | 04:44 |
| wladston | XirXes: is gps currently broken for you too ? | 04:46 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | I have to be honest | 04:47 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | after I posted that question I got gps working | 04:47 |
| XirXes | i havent tried it in weeks | 04:47 |
| XirXes | how accurate? | 04:47 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | dead on | 04:47 |
| wladston | RogueAgent[tp2]: are you using the latest builds ? | 04:48 |
| wladston | RogueAgent[tp2]: and, are you indoors ? | 04:48 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | I'm using project android hte newest one posted | 04:48 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | with the newest rootfs | 04:48 |
| wladston | RogueAgent[tp2]: also, have you ever used catlog ? | 04:48 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | I used the quick gps in energy rom before i booted into android and its working | 04:48 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | Not that I'm aware of | 04:48 |
| wladston | and are you indoors ? | 04:49 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | am now | 04:49 |
| wladston | wow | 04:49 |
| wladston | interesting | 04:49 |
| wladston | what was the location you were getting before the fix ? | 04:49 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | it was blank so no idea | 04:50 |
| wladston | an approximate location or just 0 00 00, 0 00 00 | 04:50 |
| wladston | ? | 04:50 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | probably the 0000000 | 04:50 |
| wladston | I'm trying to figure out if you are using the gps_msm7k or anything else | 04:50 |
| wladston | hummm | 04:50 |
| wladston | ok | 04:50 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | its having issues with me indoors | 04:51 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | but its working | 04:51 |
| wladston | right | 04:51 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | but im also 10 ft undergorund | 04:52 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | :P | 04:52 |
| wladston | I'm trying to figure what we need to get agps on the gps | 04:52 |
| wladston | it's almost 7 am here | 04:52 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | I'm using gpstools | 04:52 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | from the android marget | 04:52 |
| wladston | I have to sleep ... | 04:52 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | market* | 04:52 |
| wladston | cool | 04:52 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | for agps | 04:53 |
| wladston | ???? | 04:53 |
| wladston | you have agps ?! | 04:53 |
| wladston | working ?! | 04:53 |
| XirXes | damn. harets broken for me. it gets to the end of the booting android bar and stops. never switches over to acutally booting | 04:53 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | it says it is | 04:53 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | took me like 20 seconds to get a gps fix when i went outside | 04:53 |
| XirXes | whats the disk check tool in linux | 04:53 |
| wladston | RogueAgent[tp2]: do you get any location before you get the fix ? | 04:53 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | nope | 04:53 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | and xirxes | 04:53 |
| wladston | RogueAgent[tp2]: or, do you get any location when completely indoors ? | 04:54 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | i believe its fsck | 04:54 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | I'm getting the proper location indoors | 04:54 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | yep immediately found me in my house | 04:54 |
| wladston | hummm then I think you are probably getting just quickgps data, not a-gps based on cell tower location | 04:54 |
| wladston | anyways, I'm about to collapse on this keyboard | 04:55 |
| wladston | :D | 04:55 |
| wladston | going to sleep | 04:55 |
| wladston | see you later guys | 04:55 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | night | 04:55 |
| XirXes | i let windows try cause its always offering but it didnt help. im gunna try with one of my virtual machines of linux and if that doesnt work ill hard reset my winmo | 04:55 |
| XirXes | night | 04:55 |
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| RogueAgent[tp2] | Had to do that last night xirxes | 04:56 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | Had issues with android getting stuck mounting my sdcard | 04:56 |
| XirXes | i did it earlier today. but my xdauc is set up perfect so hard reset isnt even an issue for me | 04:56 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | never bothered with xdauc, just load myphone and I'm back to where i need to be | 04:57 |
| XirXes | i jsut dont want to format my sd. thats a pain. i love xda uc. plus i have a cab building tool so i can pretty much configure my entire phone with it | 04:58 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | I formatted my sdcard like 6 times last night | 04:59 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | but that new data.img utility for windows is great | 04:59 |
| XirXes | as in browsing data.img? do want! | 04:59 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | you cant broswe it | 05:00 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | but it lets you dynamically resize and create them | 05:00 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | so instead of the default 256mb data.img mines at 1.5gigs now | 05:00 |
| XirXes | ah i remeber that. i would consisder it but my sd doesnt have room for more than 256 | 05:01 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | yeah all my sdcard has right now is android so it didn't bother me | 05:02 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | Can't wait till they get the earphone jack working | 05:02 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | that will make android perfect for me | 05:02 |
| XirXes | i think you can set it to output audio in the startup.txt but then sound only works in the headphones | 05:03 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | yeah thats no good though | 05:03 |
| XirXes | agreed | 05:03 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | can't be reseting my phone everytime i get in and out of my car | 05:03 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | supposedly the tp1 usb adapter works fine | 05:04 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | just wish i hadn't lost mine | 05:04 |
| XirXes | the brick? | 05:05 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | never head it called that way, but that adapter that had the 2 slots for headphones and a headset and the usb slot? | 05:05 |
| XirXes | yeah. i dont think mine would be a good test for that as its now a tv out adapter | 05:06 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | you can turn them into tv out adapters? | 05:06 |
| XirXes | yeah. you open them and cut the blue wire and then it gets id'd by the phone as that. then all you do is plug an ipod video cable in and it works | 05:08 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | i see | 05:08 |
| XirXes | its pretty sweet but i havent really used it since i did it. its nice to have around tho | 05:08 |
| XirXes | what kind of rhod do you have? | 05:09 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | 500 | 05:09 |
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| RogueAgent[tp2] | the verizon one | 05:09 |
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| XirXes | nice. you actually get a headphone jack | 05:09 |
| XirXes | ive got the t-mobile one. 210 | 05:10 |
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| RogueAgent[tp2] | i9see | 05:14 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | i just think its silly how much hacked android works better on our phones then wmob | 05:14 |
| XirXes | yeah. me too. energy rom is pretty nice tho. if i used sense 2.1 it would probably run alot smoother but wheres the fun in that | 05:17 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | I dont htink nrg makes roms, i think he provides miracles | 05:25 |
| XirXes | lol | 05:31 |
| XirXes | damn. i cant get my card reader working with my virtual machine. im just gunna have to format | 05:32 |
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| RogueAgent[tp2] | hey xirxes do u have any apps to recommend for android? | 05:56 |
| XirXes | not really | 05:57 |
| XirXes | i just use engadget app and xdapp | 05:57 |
| XirXes | plus the browser kicks the crap out of opera | 05:57 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | ugh | 06:13 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | Wanna kill people that suggest antivirus for their droid phones | 06:14 |
| RogueAgent[tp2] | also atk | 06:14 |
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| XirXes | format didnt work. and i even used the hp format tool | 07:43 |
| XirXes | just hard reset | 07:43 |
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| XirXes | and my device is set back up. xdauc ftw. | 07:59 |
| XirXes | haret still isn't working | 08:00 |
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| XirXes | TheDeadCPU: would you mind offering your thoughts on my haret issues. When i run haret it does the booting linux dialogue and then nothing. the screen stays where its at. doesnt switch to flowing text | 08:39 |
| TheDeadCPU | Check that you have the correct Startup.txt | 08:39 |
| XirXes | i formated my sd with the hp tool. no change. my startup was working perfectly fine before, but i tried replacing it with a fresh one too. | 08:40 |
| TheDeadCPU | Try updating the rootfs and zImage | 08:40 |
| XirXes | I hard reset my rom, no change. im flashing an older version of my rom cause that was the most recent change i've done before this happend. ill try that next | 08:43 |
| XirXes | my rootfs is latest but i updated my kernel on saturday. ill install sundays if it doesnt work | 08:45 |
| XirXes | hooray. new kernel fixed it. must have gotten curropted somehow. was working fine till this morning | 08:56 |
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| MORIS | HI ANYBODY OUT THERE KNOWS HOW TO FLASH A HTC PRO 2 FROM TMOBIL | 11:57 |
| TheDeadCPU | no | 12:03 |
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| TheDeadCPU | stinebd, you there? | 13:50 |
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| wladston | phh: you there ? I wanted to ask you about the gps_msm7k | 14:42 |
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| phh | yup | 14:42 |
| wladston | :) cool | 14:42 |
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| TheDeadCPU | wth | 14:42 |
| wladston | phh: I cheked on the catlog, gps_msm7k seem to be the module that talks to the gps hardware | 14:42 |
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| phh | it depends on what you call "hardware" but yes | 14:43 |
| wladston | phh: how does android knows that gps_msm7k is the module that it needs to call for gps ? | 14:43 |
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| phh | wladston: it's put in libhardware_legacy | 14:43 |
| wladston | phh: I've seen. Could you explain me what is libhardware_legacy ? | 14:43 |
| wladston | is it a kernel driver ? | 14:43 |
| phh | no it's a lib. | 14:44 |
| phh | that is used by android | 14:44 |
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| phh | it contains a lot of stuff more or less linked to hardware | 14:44 |
| wladston | humm ... right. how is it "linked" to the build ? | 14:44 |
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| phh | like a lib ? | 14:44 |
| wladston | yes | 14:44 |
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| phh | I can't see what I can say more than "like a lib" ... | 14:45 |
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| wladston | :) | 14:46 |
| * wladston researches | 14:47 | |
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| TheDeadCPU | I can't use my computer without the bots showing up.. And I have no idea how they start up on their own.. | 14:50 |
| TheDeadCPU | OH GOD! I've created AI! | 14:50 |
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| arrrghhh | lol | 14:53 |
| arrrghhh | dude | 14:53 |
| arrrghhh | just have them join #connect-utb you maniac | 14:53 |
| TheDeadCPU | I changed the config file to only Connect-UTB | 14:55 |
| TheDeadCPU | didn't work | 14:55 |
| TheDeadCPU | Though I killed the processes and it seemed to work | 14:55 |
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| wladston | phh: I'm reading about libraries on developer.android.com ... one question - looks like if your application is using a library, it should reference the library it is using on its manifest. But you guys have no access to the google maps manifest, for example. | 14:56 |
| wladston | phh: how google maps "knows" that it has to use libhardware_legacy ? | 14:57 |
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| wladston | os is libhardware_legacy some kind of "default" library ? | 14:58 |
| wladston | or* | 14:58 |
| stinebd | api. libh_l registers with the system and tells it "we've got gps data if you want it". apps can use the api to get that data. again, fairly basic concepts for a large software system... | 15:00 |
| groton_ | i installed xdandroid 2.2 on my diam100 device, but it is very slow and unresponsive. Is there anything i could do to improve speed? | 15:08 |
| wladston | groton_: reboot and load again | 15:08 |
| wladston | stinebd: and where does libh_l does this registering ? I'm searching on /hardware/libhardware_legacy and I found nothing | 15:10 |
| groton_ | wladston, yes, i already done that several time. Now it passed like 1 hour since i have in my pocket, and it seems to be faster than before. Is is possible to increase the sensitivity of the touch screen? I have to press heavily on it with android (with winmob my touch is a lot lightweight) | 15:11 |
| stinebd | wladston: hardware/libhardware_legacy/gps/gps.cpp | 15:11 |
| wladston | groton_: well, possibly it could be worked on | 15:12 |
| groton_ | wladston, even the wifi is working! cvool! | 15:13 |
| wladston | groton_: but I don't know of any sensitivity setting you could change | 15:13 |
| groton_ | wladston, ok, i think i will invest lot of time on this :) thanks | 15:13 |
| wladston | :) | 15:13 |
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| htc | hi | 15:40 |
| htc | i´ve got a problem | 15:40 |
| wladston | phh: I think I'm starting to get it. Librpc "knows" that we have a hardware via BOARD_GPS_LIBRARIES := librpc define. Then all GPS calls are passed to librpc. right ? | 15:41 |
| htc | no | 15:41 |
| htc | i cant boot linux of my htc hd mini | 15:42 |
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| wladston | phh: the only reference to gps_msm7k.c is via LOCAL_SRC_FILES += gps/gps_msm7k.c | 15:43 |
| wladston | phh: that is expected and will put gps_msm7k.c code inside the librpc ? | 15:43 |
| wladston | htc: more specific info, so we can help you :) | 15:44 |
| arrrghhh | htc: yea what is that device...? | 15:44 |
| htc | im sorry i am from germany ...what is a divice?? | 15:45 |
| wladston | type of phone | 15:45 |
| htc | htc hd mini | 15:45 |
| arrrghhh | raph | 15:45 |
| arrrghhh | rhod | 15:45 |
| arrrghhh | you're going to make me google aren't you. | 15:46 |
| wladston | lol | 15:46 |
| wladston | das Gerät ... | 15:46 |
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| htc | t5555 | 15:46 |
| arrrghhh | somehow that helps less. | 15:46 |
| stinebd | we don't support that phone... | 15:46 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 15:46 |
| arrrghhh | 7227 | 15:46 |
| arrrghhh | do we support any 7227 proc's stinebd ? | 15:46 |
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| stinebd | no | 15:47 |
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| arrrghhh | didn't think so. sorry htc. XDAndroid does not support that... nvm. | 15:47 |
| stinebd | it's the mid-end snapdragon cousin | 15:47 |
| arrrghhh | hm | 15:47 |
| stinebd | same as on the htc aria | 15:48 |
| arrrghhh | ic | 15:49 |
| * arrrghhh doesn't know crap about other phones. | 15:49 | |
| stinebd | htc aria is a beautiful little phone btw | 15:49 |
| arrrghhh | i think i've heard of it, just not much about it. | 15:49 |
| arrrghhh | maybe i'm mixing it up with the eris. | 15:49 |
| wladston | I think I'm pretty much solid about buying an HTC Desire | 15:49 |
| arrrghhh | stupid manufacturers brand the phone one thing, and then the carriers screw it all up and name is something different. | 15:50 |
| arrrghhh | wladston: the Z or the HD? | 15:50 |
| wladston | probably the HD, the Z isn't here yet | 15:50 |
| arrrghhh | i can't use either, but that's besides the point :P | 15:50 |
| stinebd | eris is heroc | 15:50 |
| arrrghhh | bah, see what i mean stinebd ? :P | 15:50 |
| arrrghhh | wladston: eh i'd wait personally. i can't stand not having a physical kbd ;) | 15:50 |
| wladston | will have to save some money for long | 15:51 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: yeah, me too .... | 15:51 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: but there are no options! | 15:51 |
| arrrghhh | perfect way to wait haha | 15:51 |
| arrrghhh | well, save up for the Z. whenever it gets released lol | 15:51 |
| wladston | :/ yeah | 15:51 |
| wladston | it will not get released | 15:51 |
| wladston | I'll have to buy it from the ilegal market | 15:51 |
| wladston | mostly crappy phones are released in here | 15:52 |
| TheDeadCPU | Where? | 15:52 |
| wladston | the tp2 for example wasn't released | 15:52 |
| wladston | brazil | 15:52 |
| TheDeadCPU | ah | 15:52 |
| arrrghhh | wladston: can't be as bad as the US :P jk | 15:53 |
| wladston | lol | 15:53 |
| wladston | us is the dream paradise for electronics in the world | 15:53 |
| wladston | If I bought a phone legally, I'd have to pay about 100% of it's cost to the governament | 15:54 |
| wladston | as taxes | 15:54 |
| wladston | the prices I was talking to you about | 15:54 |
| wladston | that is all from the illegal market | 15:54 |
| wladston | the legal one is WAY more expensive | 15:54 |
| wladston | that's why cool phones don't even get released | 15:55 |
| arrrghhh | damn. | 15:55 |
| arrrghhh | i thought our concept of phones was broken :S | 15:55 |
| arrrghhh | at least our concept of purchasing them. | 15:55 |
| wladston | ahn, yeah - that having to sign the contract shit | 15:55 |
| wladston | you can always buy unlocked | 15:56 |
| wladston | that's the way we buy | 15:56 |
| arrrghhh | well unlocked here is kinda weird. | 15:56 |
| arrrghhh | because certain carriers have strict policies on what phones they will activate. | 15:56 |
| arrrghhh | some carriers could care less and are just happy you're giving them any business :P | 15:57 |
| stinebd | plus even if you get an unlocked phone, everybody uses different frequencies for everything | 15:57 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 15:58 |
| arrrghhh | besides the whole gsm/cdma debacle. | 15:58 |
| arrrghhh | not all gsm devices are created equal. | 15:58 |
| wladston | interesting | 15:59 |
| wladston | well, the htc tp2 operates on almost all the frequencies | 15:59 |
| wladston | at least this one I got | 15:59 |
| wladston | and brazil is all-gsm | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | the cdma carriers billed that as a 'world phone' | 16:00 |
| arrrghhh | so that makes sense. | 16:00 |
| wladston | we stopped using cdma years and years ago | 16:00 |
| arrrghhh | yea yea. | 16:00 |
| stinebd | :D | 16:01 |
| arrrghhh | bastages. | 16:02 |
| arrrghhh | so i was playing around with google voice commands. sent my gf a text this morning, and it bleeped my foul language LOL | 16:04 |
| wladston | LOL | 16:05 |
| stinebd | those ducking fascist pigs | 16:05 |
| wladston | you can disable this and include foul language on settings | 16:05 |
| arrrghhh | those voice commands are really quite good tho | 16:05 |
| arrrghhh | really? nice. | 16:05 |
| wladston | yeah | 16:05 |
| wladston | how to send text ? | 16:05 |
| arrrghhh | i was amazed at how good they are. only a few hiccups, and the guessing engine was pretty close :P | 16:06 |
| wladston | what do I have to say ? | 16:06 |
| wladston | yeah | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | send text message <name> <message> | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | lmgtfy :P | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | http://www.google.com/mobile/voice-actions/ | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | i believe that list is exhaustive for the existing commands. i'm sure they're going to expand it tho. | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | oh i guess you just say send text to <name> sorry. | 16:07 |
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| arrrghhh | stinebd: is clock-7x00.a11 deprecated on all devices? | 16:08 |
| wladston | coooool | 16:08 |
| arrrghhh | i just responded in the raph forum and realized it may only be deprecated for rhod... | 16:08 |
| wladston | I ended up using the older kernel to test gps tho | 16:08 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: I found out why it puts you on 0 000 000 before it gets a fix | 16:09 |
| wladston | it's because it simply doesn't implement any agps yet | 16:09 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: hell if i know | 16:09 |
| stinebd | i would imagine it's deprecated for everyone | 16:10 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd: that's what i assumed :P | 16:10 |
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| stinebd | a quick grep suggests the same | 16:11 |
| arrrghhh | guten. | 16:11 |
| stinebd | ich liebe dich. | 16:12 |
| stinebd | <3 | 16:12 |
| wladston | ich aor | 16:12 |
| wladston | <3 | 16:12 |
| wladston | lol | 16:12 |
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| arrrghhh | who doesn't love me? | 16:13 |
| TheDeadCPU | None. | 16:13 |
| stinebd | probably that guy you trolled on xda | 16:13 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 16:13 |
| arrrghhh | he had it coming. | 16:14 |
| arrrghhh | oh man you probably didn't see the newest one on ppcg. | 16:14 |
| arrrghhh | oy ve... | 16:14 |
| wladston | sight | 16:17 |
| wladston | will have to read the nmea documentation | 16:17 |
| arrrghhh | enjoy. | 16:17 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 16:17 |
| wladston | :( | 16:17 |
| arrrghhh | so there's no way to prevent GPS from displaying the position until it gets a fix? | 16:18 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: I guess not | 16:18 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: it looks like it MUST return a position | 16:18 |
| arrrghhh | i would assume there's some value for sats fixed or some such. then just don't display location until at least 3 sats fixed. | 16:18 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. | 16:18 |
| arrrghhh | well... if it's all 0's then ignore it? | 16:18 |
| arrrghhh | screw those people off the coast of ghana. | 16:18 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: lol | 16:18 |
| arrrghhh | i think it's a relatively small part of the userbase. | 16:18 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: well, there could be a way to not set the position | 16:19 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: I'll try to implement that before trying agps | 16:19 |
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| arrrghhh | i thought agps was working for you...? | 16:19 |
| wladston | if it were, it would not put me on ghana | 16:20 |
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| arrrghhh | hrm. | 16:21 |
| wladston | it has a GPS_LOCATION_HAS_LAT_LONG flag | 16:21 |
| arrrghhh | i thought agps works for GSM devices. | 16:21 |
| wladston | I just need to set it accordingly | 16:21 |
| wladston | probably quickgps is working | 16:22 |
| wladston | maybe if I manage that GPS_LOCATION_HAS_LAT_LONG things will solve by thenselves | 16:22 |
| arrrghhh | things will solve by themselves... | 16:22 |
| arrrghhh | how long have you been a programmer wladston ? | 16:23 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 16:23 |
| wladston | for the a-gps, looks like all I have to do is to pass the cell tower location as an aiding data | 16:23 |
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| wladston | it could be fun trying to implement all the stuff on gps.h | 16:24 |
| wladston | :) | 16:25 |
| arrrghhh | oh yea bill withers. | 16:25 |
| arrrghhh | man nothin better than having all my music @ home @ work :D | 16:27 |
| TheDeadCPU | TheDeadBOT lol | 16:30 |
| TheDeadCPU | It worked. | 16:30 |
| TheDeadCPU | Magic | 16:30 |
| wladston | hummmm | 16:32 |
| * wladston is getting happier | 16:32 | |
| wladston | almost to the point where I'm going to actually start writing software | 16:33 |
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| wladston | it's probably reading the wrong fix signal from the nmea string received | 16:41 |
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| wladston | and setting the fix at a wrong time | 16:42 |
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| wladston | arrrghhh: what an emotion, I'm going to try my "quirks" fix now | 17:18 |
| arrrghhh | ok? | 17:18 |
| wladston | booting | 17:19 |
| TheDeadCPU | +google wladston | 17:19 |
| TheDeadBOT | TheDeadCPU: Index of /: <http://www.wladston.net/>; Wladston Viana (wladston) on Twitter: <http://twitter.com/wladston>; Twitter / Wladston Viana: Android 2.2 zero bala roda ...: <http://twitter.com/wladston/status/28967209818>; Wladston Viana Ferreira Filho | Facebook: <http://www.facebook.com/wladston>; S1mp3.org Forum • View topic - KiP-OD1B (CM780-CARD-MTV ...: (1 more message) | 17:19 |
| wladston | this time I edited the right file | 17:19 |
| wladston | nice bot | 17:19 |
| TheDeadCPU | a curriculm vitae | 17:19 |
| wladston | +google TheDeadCPU | 17:19 |
| TheDeadBOT | wladston: Joachim Løkås (TheDeadCpu) on Twitter: <http://twitter.com/thedeadcpu>; YouTube - TheDeadCPU's Channel: <http://www.youtube.com/user/TheDeadCPU>; YouTube - XDAndroid 2.2 File instructions.: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TogHFgxQbzA>; YouTube - XDAndroid 2.2 File instructions. Remake.: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIwIhu5B5LE>; TheDeadCPU: <http://thedeadcpu.tk/>; [PRJ] (1 more message) | 17:19 |
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| arrrghhh | holy spam man! | 17:20 |
| TheDeadCPU | +channelstats | 17:20 |
| TheDeadBOT | TheDeadCPU: On #xdandroid there have been 18 messages, containing 1103 characters, 127 words, 0 smileys, and 9 frowns; 0 of those messages were ACTIONs. There have been 5 joins, 0 parts, 3 quits, 0 kicks, 0 mode changes, and 0 topic changes. | 17:20 |
| wladston | +channelstats | 17:21 |
| wladston | +channelstats | 17:22 |
| wladston | he doesn't like me | 17:22 |
| wladston | :D | 17:22 |
| TheDeadCPU | Nah, he's just a bit slow at times :p | 17:22 |
| TheDeadBOT | wladston: On #xdandroid there have been 20 messages, containing 1358 characters, 170 words, 0 smileys, and 9 frowns; 0 of those messages were ACTIONs. There have been 5 joins, 0 parts, 3 quits, 0 kicks, 0 mode changes, and 0 topic changes. | 17:22 |
| TheDeadBOT | wladston: On #xdandroid there have been 22 messages, containing 1611 characters, 213 words, 0 smileys, and 9 frowns; 0 of those messages were ACTIONs. There have been 5 joins, 0 parts, 3 quits, 0 kicks, 0 mode changes, and 0 topic changes. | 17:22 |
| TheDeadCPU | See? | 17:22 |
| wladston | :) | 17:22 |
| wladston | nice | 17:22 |
| wladston | the fix didn't work | 17:23 |
| wladston | strange | 17:23 |
| arrrghhh | quick! someone kickban that bot! | 17:23 |
| stinebd | any chance you could have it reply in private? | 17:24 |
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| TheDeadCPU | Yup. | 17:30 |
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| TheDeadCPU | There. | 17:34 |
| TheDeadCPU | +channelstats | 17:34 |
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| wladston | trying fix attempt #2 | 17:42 |
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| arrrghhh | NeoMatrixJR: perhaps you can help.. have you used haretconsole before? | 18:01 |
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| arrrghhh | hrm. | 18:05 |
| arrrghhh | anyone? | 18:05 |
| arrrghhh | tumbleweeds in here... | 18:05 |
| NeoMatrixJR | nope sorry... I need to learn that too | 18:06 |
| NeoMatrixJR | well, I'm off to vote! | 18:06 |
| TheDeadCPU | Oh shit | 18:07 |
| TheDeadCPU | I've got a presentation in 11 hours | 18:07 |
| TheDeadCPU | I should think about wtf I'm going to talk about..... | 18:07 |
| wladston | talk about embedded linux | 18:10 |
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| arrrghhh | lol | 18:13 |
| wladston | trying fix attempt #3 | 18:20 |
| TheDeadCPU | We're talking about talking to a class of car mechanics. | 18:21 |
| wladston | talk about how embedded linux can be used to monitor the car mechanics | 18:21 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 18:21 |
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| wladston | it doesn't make sense .... I put a hello world on gps_msm7k next to a print that is getting on the log .... | 18:36 |
| wladston | and my hello world isn't being put on the log | 18:36 |
| wladston | grrrrrr | 18:37 |
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| hamagc | well guys. g/f got me a moment | 18:49 |
| phh | hamagc: data works for you now ? | 18:50 |
| hamagc | yes phh, thank you very much | 18:50 |
| hamagc | i'm sure the cdma guys are happy again | 18:50 |
| arrrghhh | phh: yea the rest of the raph800 crew are very happy :D | 18:53 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 18:53 |
| TheDeadCPU | lolcdma | 18:53 |
| hamagc | but my tp is no longer active | 18:55 |
| arrrghhh | CDMA rox. TheDeadCPU is just jealous because his puny country only has GSM. | 18:55 |
| TheDeadCPU | lpol | 18:55 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol* | 18:55 |
| TheDeadCPU | I'd use CDMA if that was the best signal I had. | 18:56 |
| TheDeadCPU | Though that isn't the case. | 18:56 |
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| cheebster | evening | 18:56 |
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| wladston | phh: could you help me figure out what is going on with my build !?!? I'm chaning the gps_msm7k.c file, and making again | 18:59 |
| arrrghhh | TheDeadCPU: i'd say your entire country is a CDMA dead zone. | 18:59 |
| wladston | the result image differs | 18:59 |
| wladston | but, I can't see my debug traces | 18:59 |
| wladston | as if I haven't changed the source | 18:59 |
| phh | you know how to do debugging in android/C? | 19:00 |
| wladston | phh: in C yeah, in android not sure | 19:00 |
| TheDeadCPU | arrrghhh, true. But I've yet to test. | 19:00 |
| wladston | phh: I'm using logcat | 19:00 |
| phh | wladston: LOGD calls ? | 19:00 |
| arrrghhh | TheDeadCPU: lol i guess that is a good point :P | 19:00 |
| wladston | phh: there are D("xxx"); calls all over the code | 19:00 |
| wladston | they use a macro | 19:00 |
| wladston | I'm using that same | 19:00 |
| phh | you've seen you need to set a define to have D() do actual things ? | 19:01 |
| wladston | yeah, D becomes LOGD | 19:01 |
| TheDeadCPU | +cdma | 19:01 |
| wladston | yeah, that define was already on the code | 19:01 |
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| FusionOne | anyone is getting more than a work day of standby with a few calls ? | 19:02 |
| FusionOne | barely here | 19:02 |
| arrrghhh | sit near a charger. | 19:02 |
| wladston | phh: there is a D("gps thread received %d events", nevents); | 19:03 |
| wladston | phh: that gets print to the log | 19:03 |
| phh | ok | 19:04 |
| FusionOne | im on the road a lot | 19:04 |
| wladston | phh: if I change it to D("test gps thread received %d events", nevents); | 19:04 |
| wladston | phh: the log doesn't change | 19:04 |
| FusionOne | hard to sit usually | 19:04 |
| phh | how do you build it/how do you use it ? | 19:04 |
| wladston | I've followed the exact instructions on the wiki to build | 19:04 |
| wladston | repo sync, create .mk, extract proprietary files ... | 19:05 |
| wladston | and I make with a make on the root of the dir | 19:05 |
| phh | ah ... | 19:05 |
| wladston | then I get the system.img from the out folder | 19:05 |
| wladston | place it on the pda | 19:05 |
| wladston | as image.ext2 | 19:05 |
| wladston | and boot with haret | 19:06 |
| phh | I think we overwrite the libhardware_legacy.so in rootfs.img | 19:06 |
| wladston | oooooh | 19:06 |
| arrrghhh | FusionOne: use winmo then... | 19:06 |
| wladston | phh: well, how do you recommend debugging the gps then ? | 19:06 |
| wladston | I think I can fix the problem of location in africa on indoors | 19:07 |
| FusionOne | arrrghhh, i love android. i'll live with it... | 19:07 |
| phh | copy libh_l in rootfs ? | 19:07 |
| FusionOne | just wondered, if it was just me | 19:07 |
| wladston | just by unsetting the HAS_LOCATION flag | 19:07 |
| arrrghhh | FusionOne: well until it's more complete, battery life isn't going to be so great. you must admit, it's much better than it used to be even a month or two ago. | 19:07 |
| wladston | phh: where libh_l is build ? | 19:07 |
| phh | in libh_l folders .. ? | 19:08 |
| arrrghhh | i can't use Android all day because people insist on calling me :P | 19:08 |
| wladston | phh: I think I've lost about 3 hours trying to debug this issue | 19:08 |
| wladston | phh: nice you helped me | 19:08 |
| phh | well I just cd in it and mm | 19:08 |
| phh | after having done . build/envsetup.sh in root of android's tree | 19:08 |
| wladston | mm ? | 19:09 |
| phh | mm | 19:09 |
| phh | that's a function defined when doing the . build/envsetup.sh | 19:09 |
| wladston | phh: ?? "The program 'mm' can be found in the following packages: * mountmanager * multimail" | 19:11 |
| phh | wladston: you haven't done the . build/envsetup.sh then | 19:11 |
| FusionOne | arrrghhh, been using it for a week and a half only :) | 19:12 |
| FusionOne | but im surprised how good it runs | 19:12 |
| arrrghhh | FusionOne: well trust me it's A LOT better :P it used to be about 2-3hrs. | 19:12 |
| arrrghhh | depending on usage, of course. | 19:12 |
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| arrrghhh | fine. | 19:12 |
| FusionOne | used it today | 19:12 |
| wladston | phh: I ran "./build/envsetup.sh " several times .... just ran it again | 19:12 |
| emwe | hehe | 19:12 |
| FusionOne | about 10 calls | 19:12 |
| FusionOne | no issues at all with calls. | 19:13 |
| arrrghhh | lucky you :P | 19:13 |
| phh | wladston: who said ./build/envsetup.sh ? | 19:13 |
| FusionOne | gmail is still broken tho | 19:13 |
| phh | no proper doc would do that | 19:13 |
| phh | since it's wrong | 19:13 |
| arrrghhh | FusionOne: in what way? works for me. | 19:13 |
| FusionOne | im wondering if i can erasse settings for gmail | 19:13 |
| FusionOne | i was setting up my account | 19:13 |
| FusionOne | and a call came | 19:13 |
| FusionOne | so after that | 19:13 |
| FusionOne | cant open gmail anymore | 19:13 |
| wladston | phh: you, I think ==> phh 11/02/2010 09:11:39 PM wladston: you haven't done the . build/envsetup.sh then | 19:13 |
| phh | wladston: look better ? | 19:14 |
| arrrghhh | FusionOne: setup your gmail in accounts & sync. | 19:14 |
| phh | wladston: there is a huge difference between those two commands | 19:14 |
| wladston | hummmm | 19:14 |
| phh | one forks and thus the changes are forgotten | 19:14 |
| phh | not for the other one | 19:14 |
| wladston | hummmmm | 19:14 |
| wladston | yeah | 19:14 |
| wladston | made a difference here | 19:15 |
| phh | o'rly | 19:15 |
| wladston | phh: so when I want to make my own build I have to . build/envsetup.sh ; mm ? | 19:16 |
| phh | the build/envsetup is in the root of android's sources, mm is in libhardware_legacy | 19:17 |
| wladston | phh: excuse me for my stupidity, but I'm not understanding .... isn't this mm an equivalent for make ? | 19:18 |
| phh | wladston: what do you mean with equivalent ? | 19:18 |
| phh | it's a shell function that uses the make command to build the specified module | 19:18 |
| wladston | ahn, right | 19:19 |
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| wladston | so mm libhardware_legacy | 19:19 |
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| TheDeadCPU | "just got the message from the streets that a gingerbread build for N1 is outside of GooglePlex" | 19:20 |
| wladston | okay, it made some .so modules | 19:20 |
| wladston | phh: now I need to copy those to rootfs and repackage, right ? | 19:20 |
| phh | repackage .. ? | 19:20 |
| wladston | compress the rootfs to rootfs.img | 19:20 |
| phh | wut ? | 19:21 |
| phh | rootfs is compressed ? | 19:21 |
| phh | stinebd always impresses me | 19:21 |
| wladston | phh: yours isn't ? | 19:21 |
| stinebd | ? | 19:21 |
| phh | my what ? | 19:21 |
| phh | I've no own rootfs | 19:21 |
| wladston | rootfs! | 19:21 |
| stinebd | compressed how? | 19:22 |
| wladston | into an image file | 19:22 |
| stinebd | lol that's not compressed | 19:22 |
| wladston | I mean packaged then | 19:23 |
| phh | well just adb push libh_l.so /lib/froyo/libh_l.so | 19:23 |
| phh | should work | 19:23 |
| phh | or something like that. | 19:23 |
| wladston | it's on lib/eclair/libhardware_legacy.so | 19:24 |
| stinebd | no it isn't | 19:24 |
| wladston | hum, also on lib/froyo/libhardware_legacy.so | 19:25 |
| wladston | phh: I'll need to reboot for that to work ? | 19:25 |
| stinebd | yes | 19:25 |
| wladston | phh: so I can't push it with adb, because when I reboot the rootsf image will replace it | 19:26 |
| phh | .... | 19:26 |
| stinebd | heh | 19:26 |
| phh | /lib/ is in rootfs. | 19:26 |
| wladston | right, me cooks a new rootfs ... | 19:27 |
| phh | no need to cook anything ... | 19:27 |
| stinebd | when you replace it on the live system, the changes are written to the image on the sd card | 19:27 |
| wladston | oh, sweet!!! | 19:27 |
| wladston | failed to copy 'libhardware_legacy.so' to '/lib/froyo/libhardware_legacy.so': Read-only file system | 19:30 |
| wladston | how can I set the fs to rw ? | 19:30 |
| wladston | phh, stinebd ? | 19:31 |
| emwe | adb shell mount -oremount,rw /lib ? | 19:31 |
| wladston | emwe: mount: can't find /lib in /proc/mounts | 19:32 |
| wladston | tried with /, and it worked | 19:33 |
| wladston | thanks emwe :) | 19:33 |
| emwe | i was just guessing. have no idea what is mounting from where to where... just use it for /system when pushin a new image | 19:33 |
| wladston | emwe: is there any command that works to reboot ? | 19:34 |
| wladston | without having to boot on winmo again ? | 19:35 |
| emwe | adb shell reboot -f | 19:35 |
| emwe | ah no. | 19:35 |
| emwe | you need to go winmo | 19:35 |
| stinebd | kexec :D | 19:35 |
| * stinebd runs | 19:35 | |
| wladston | thanks :) | 19:35 |
| emwe | wladston: but genydualboot can speed it up a bit. i disable sense, radio and have it autoload haret. just need to press run. | 19:35 |
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| emwe | stinebd: a little config.xml overlay change triggers a huger rebuild. wasn't that what you also suffered from recently? | 19:36 |
| stinebd | emwe: yeah, for some reason it rebuilds frameworks/base (normal) and then proceeds to rebuild all of the packages tree | 19:37 |
| stinebd | maybe the build system is just dumb and rebuilds packages whenever the frameworks package is updated | 19:37 |
| emwe | stinebd: i am just investigating the PowerManagerService crash ... i might come up with a config.xml overlay patch... | 19:38 |
| stinebd | it's crashing? | 19:38 |
| wladston | I'm all hopes for my gps path :) | 19:38 |
| emwe | now it does not crash anymore, but it still refuses to trigger the auto-bl hook via liblights when the lcd brightness is set to full. | 19:39 |
| emwe | stinebd: yap, AIOOB. because the arrays are supposed to be N + 1 the size of the autobrightnesslevels array. still investigating... | 19:39 |
| emwe | hm, now some more cores wouldn't be too bad... | 19:40 |
| TheDeadCPU | gnite guys | 19:41 |
| emwe | gnight theDead | 19:41 |
| arrrghhh | cya dude | 19:41 |
| wladston | nite! | 19:41 |
| wladston | my fix didn't work | 19:41 |
| stinebd | emwe: i told you liblights was right! :D | 19:41 |
| wladston | but my changes now show on the log | 19:41 |
| emwe | stinebd: i never said something else :P | 19:41 |
| wladston | looks like unsetting GPS_LOCATION_HAS_LAT_LONG flag isn't enough | 19:42 |
| stinebd | emwe: if so, i would suggest that the other level be 100 also | 19:43 |
| stinebd | and whatever number you want in the other arrays, those dont matter | 19:43 |
| emwe | there's supposed to be lux values ... i've seen stuff starting from 200 -> 3000 | 19:44 |
| emwe | still testing... | 19:44 |
| stinebd | no | 19:44 |
| stinebd | lux is for the sensor readings | 19:44 |
| stinebd | the brightness levels are percent | 19:44 |
| emwe | oh? | 19:45 |
| stinebd | (which correspond to the lux levels in that first array) | 19:45 |
| emwe | the backlightvalues are in percent? | 19:45 |
| wladston | anyways ... I'm out, need a bit of sanity for what's left of my neurons .... | 19:45 |
| stinebd | yes | 19:45 |
| wladston | nite for you guys | 19:45 |
| emwe | gnight wladston | 19:45 |
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| emwe | stinebd: then there's a shitload of broken references on google... | 19:46 |
| stinebd | actually | 19:46 |
| emwe | stinebd: thought these vals where the ones sent over via liblights -> microp | 19:46 |
| stinebd | they're not even percent | 19:46 |
| stinebd | they're just raw sysfs values | 19:46 |
| stinebd | stupid android | 19:46 |
| stinebd | see passion-common's overlay | 19:47 |
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| stinebd | max is 250 (out of 255) | 19:47 |
| stinebd | and lux levels in the sensor readings go up to 3000 there | 19:47 |
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| stinebd | yeah the numbers are definitely 8 bit sysfs levels | 19:48 |
| stinebd | so we should set it to whatever our sysfs max is | 19:48 |
| stinebd | not necessary 255, maybe 10? | 19:48 |
| emwe | rhod has max of 10... | 19:48 |
| emwe | topa don't know ;) | 19:48 |
| stinebd | what does the kernel driver do with values > max? | 19:49 |
| emwe | brightness/2 & 0xf0 ;) | 19:49 |
| emwe | it writes them no matter what ;) | 19:49 |
| stinebd | neat | 19:49 |
| emwe | or i am blind. which might very well be at 0:49am | 19:49 |
| emwe | i will see what i can figure till tomorrow. | 19:50 |
| arrrghhh | what are you talking about emwe it's 17:50. | 19:50 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 19:50 |
| emwe | lucky you. | 19:50 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha not so much. still @ work :( | 19:50 |
| emwe | still at work?! that's an unchristician time to be at work. | 19:51 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 19:51 |
| emwe | i usually leave @4 | 19:51 |
| arrrghhh | well i start @ 9am. | 19:51 |
| stinebd | emwe: maybe we should just have liblights ignore brightness setting completely when autobl is on | 19:51 |
| emwe | me at short past 7 | 19:51 |
| arrrghhh | some days. when i start @ 7am, i leave by 4pm ;) | 19:51 |
| emwe | stinebd: bl-levels are skipped when auto-bl is in effect, but yeah, it would save some useless calls, right. | 19:52 |
| stinebd | meh | 19:55 |
| stinebd | i'll let arrrghhh submit a patch for it | 19:55 |
| emwe | *confused* | 19:57 |
| stinebd | pushed | 19:57 |
| stinebd | maybe it's right | 19:57 |
| stinebd | emwe: you can try building it if you want | 19:57 |
| emwe | stinebd: why do you do that when i really should be in bed already. | 19:58 |
| stinebd | do it tomorrow then | 19:58 |
| stinebd | no rush | 19:58 |
| emwe | looks ok. | 20:00 |
| emwe | YES!!!! | 20:01 |
| emwe | got it calling auto-bl hook when on full lcd brightness... | 20:01 |
| emwe | last val must be != 255 config_autoBrightnessLcdBacklightValues | 20:01 |
| emwe | so gnight everyone. time to... | 20:03 |
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| arrrghhh | i patch? | 20:09 |
| arrrghhh | ah well | 20:10 |
| arrrghhh | goin home guys, cya on the flip side. | 20:10 |
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| arrrghhh | stinebd, you around? | 22:35 |
| stinebd | don't interrupt me i'm watching the election! | 22:45 |
| arrrghhh | lol seriously? | 22:46 |
| stinebd | no. i'm actually watching the poll results being reported. the election was over long ago her. | 22:47 |
| stinebd | here* | 22:47 |
| arrrghhh | so you'll probably shun me for asking, but i want to learn what reefer does to your reference system images to make his magical blazn builds. can i just read up on themeing in native android and be ok? | 22:47 |
| arrrghhh | any pitfalls i should be wary of with xdandroid? | 22:47 |
| stinebd | talk to him, not me | 22:47 |
| stinebd | the only pitfall i know of is that we sign our packages | 22:48 |
| arrrghhh | hrm ok | 22:48 |
| stinebd | i can't help you with the theming part | 22:48 |
| arrrghhh | do you at least have a repo where he gets your system image code from? | 22:48 |
| arrrghhh | i don't even know how he starts with your reference builds | 22:48 |
| stinebd | http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Getting_the_Source | 22:48 |
| arrrghhh | does he just break apart the ext2 file? | 22:48 |
| stinebd | no, he builds the system | 22:48 |
| stinebd | (as far as i know) | 22:48 |
| arrrghhh | oic | 22:49 |
| arrrghhh | cool | 22:50 |
| arrrghhh | this is going to take me a while :D thanks dude. | 22:50 |
| arrrghhh | this thing'll take up 10gb of space?!? | 23:04 |
| arrrghhh | ah well. dindin. | 23:07 |
| FusionOne | hey | 23:31 |
| FusionOne | anyone knows what causes gmail to open to a white screen and then close ? | 23:32 |
| FusionOne | second time i see this on initial setup | 23:32 |
| FusionOne | and havent had any luck without restarting from scratch again | 23:32 |
| arrrghhh | so deleteing the data.img fixes it? | 23:37 |
| FusionOne | it does | 23:37 |
| FusionOne | but it's still not fun | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | sounds like you found your answer. | 23:37 |
| FusionOne | yeah well | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | i haven't ever had that problem... | 23:37 |
| FusionOne | k | 23:37 |
| arrrghhh | titantium backup. | 23:37 |
| FusionOne | twice here | 23:38 |
| arrrghhh | is your friend | 23:38 |
| FusionOne | k | 23:38 |
| FusionOne | will try it | 23:38 |
| arrrghhh | well you've never had issues with phone calls | 23:38 |
| FusionOne | 'night | 23:38 |
| FusionOne | thx | 23:38 |
| FusionOne | :) | 23:38 |
| arrrghhh | and i seem to have hundreds | 23:38 |
| FusionOne | hehe | 23:38 |
| arrrghhh | so there :P | 23:38 |
| arrrghhh | cya | 23:38 |
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| arrrghhh | great googly moogly, why didn't i run this repo sync in a screen session :S | 23:57 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i'll just have to kill it. crap. | 23:57 |
| arrrghhh | shite! stinebd do you know how i can run this in a screen session...? | 23:58 |
| stinebd | just ctrl+c and start it over | 23:59 |
| stinebd | it'll retain all the projects it already finished cloning | 23:59 |
| arrrghhh | there i got it. | 23:59 |
| arrrghhh | oh cool! | 23:59 |
| arrrghhh | i wasn't able to run the command directly. | 23:59 |
| arrrghhh | had to do screen, then run the command :P | 23:59 |
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