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| arrrghhh | wladston, you have a rhod100 yes? | 01:11 |
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| wladston | yes | 01:11 |
| * wladston works on the getting started guide | 01:11 | |
| wladston | anything you need testing on ? | 01:11 |
| arrrghhh | well | 01:13 |
| arrrghhh | there are some guys in the xda forums with rhod100's that aren't able to boot | 01:13 |
| arrrghhh | have you tried the newest kernel? | 01:13 |
| wladston | hummm wait | 01:14 |
| wladston | I don't know ... | 01:15 |
| wladston | let me try the newest | 01:15 |
| wladston | zImage_20101031_215910, right ? | 01:16 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 01:16 |
| * wladston boots | 01:17 | |
| wladston | arrrghhh: i've been checking dude ... the RHOD100 is almost equals to the htc desire z hardware | 01:17 |
| wladston | only diff is the multitouch and the faster clock | 01:18 |
| wladston | also, newest has no front camera and no extra rear mute button | 01:18 |
| * wladston is already on animation | 01:18 | |
| wladston | I booted dude | 01:19 |
| wladston | no problems | 01:19 |
| arrrghhh | weird | 01:19 |
| wladston | they should probly have a wrong startup.txt | 01:19 |
| arrrghhh | i'm betting it is startup problems then | 01:19 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 01:19 |
| arrrghhh | that's what i've been sayin to them... but i looked @ their startup, didn't see anything odd... | 01:19 |
| wladston | hummm | 01:20 |
| wladston | arght | 01:20 |
| wladston | crashed on start | 01:20 |
| wladston | let me cat it on the terminal | 01:20 |
| arrrghhh | hrm i think they were all halting on boot | 01:21 |
| arrrghhh | what is your mtype? | 01:21 |
| arrrghhh | in the startup.txt | 01:21 |
| wladston | 2292 | 01:22 |
| arrrghhh | damnit | 01:23 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know what these peoples are doing wrong | 01:23 |
| arrrghhh | several rhod100 peoples tho | 01:23 |
| arrrghhh | both rhod100_uk and rhod100_de | 01:24 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: weird .... | 01:24 |
| wladston | mine is us I guess | 01:24 |
| arrrghhh | i'm assuming that's just a keymap difference tho | 01:24 |
| wladston | yeah, should be | 01:24 |
| wladston | you should probably ask then to open the device and take a picture from the back | 01:24 |
| arrrghhh | everyone is saying it fails to even get past haret... | 01:24 |
| wladston | to confirm it's a RHOD100 | 01:24 |
| arrrghhh | well if they revert to 10/23 kernel it boots | 01:24 |
| wladston | hummmmm | 01:25 |
| wladston | then there is something wrong with the kernel 4 sure | 01:25 |
| wladston | weird that it worked for me | 01:25 |
| arrrghhh | newest commit is for blackstone | 01:25 |
| arrrghhh | so 10/30 should be fine. | 01:25 |
| wladston | are you sure they are using htc-msm-linux-20101031_215910-package.tar.bz2 ? | 01:26 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 01:27 |
| arrrghhh | well i haven't tested anyone with the newest 10.31 | 01:27 |
| arrrghhh | but 10.30 yes | 01:28 |
| wladston | you want me to test 10.30 too ? | 01:28 |
| arrrghhh | they're all having issues with the autobacklight i guess... | 01:28 |
| arrrghhh | no | 01:28 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 01:28 |
| wladston | what is autobacklight ? | 01:28 |
| arrrghhh | wistilt2's newest commit | 01:28 |
| wladston | hummm | 01:28 |
| wladston | what does it do ? | 01:28 |
| arrrghhh | ambient light sensor adjusts backlight on the phone | 01:28 |
| wladston | WOW | 01:29 |
| wladston | I'm gonna have to try that | 01:29 |
| arrrghhh | works pretty well on my 400 | 01:29 |
| arrrghhh | if you get the newest system.ext2, frx02 | 01:29 |
| wladston | yeah | 01:29 |
| arrrghhh | it has a autobl setting in display setting | 01:29 |
| arrrghhh | s | 01:29 |
| arrrghhh | pretty schweet | 01:29 |
| wladston | WO | 01:29 |
| wladston | wo | 01:29 |
| wladston | WOA | 01:29 |
| wladston | it WORKS | 01:29 |
| wladston | when I put the flashlight on the device the screen gets brither | 01:29 |
| wladston | AMAZING | 01:30 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 01:30 |
| wladston | no, really dude | 01:30 |
| wladston | that's real cool | 01:30 |
| arrrghhh | yea, wistilt2 has done some great work. continues to do so as well. | 01:30 |
| wladston | cool | 01:31 |
| arrrghhh | he actually purchased some chips from qualcomm, so he has some documentation.., | 01:31 |
| arrrghhh | and a team of slaves that write code for him :P | 01:31 |
| wladston | btw, you know where I can find documentation for android product parameters ? | 01:31 |
| wladston | there are paramets like | 01:31 |
| wladston | USE_PV_WINDOWS_MEDIA | 01:31 |
| wladston | that I have no idea of | 01:31 |
| wladston | !? | 01:31 |
| wladston | team of slaves ? | 01:32 |
| wladston | how's that ? | 01:32 |
| wladston | I want that too | 01:32 |
| wladston | I'll have the 10-slave coders with designer package | 01:32 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 01:34 |
| arrrghhh | he owns a business | 01:34 |
| arrrghhh | so they're not really slaves :P | 01:34 |
| arrrghhh | and no, not sure where to find docs on that.. | 01:35 |
| arrrghhh | i need to sleep tho, work tomorrow. | 01:35 |
| wladston | sure man | 01:36 |
| wladston | tomorrow we got a holiday here | 01:36 |
| wladston | wow, anyways, it's getting pretty late | 01:36 |
| * wladston is going too | 01:36 | |
| wladston | after looking at androik.mk | 01:36 |
| wladston | D: | 01:36 |
| wladston | :D | 01:36 |
| wladston | humm | 01:37 |
| wladston | there is no android.mk on xdandroid | 01:37 |
| wladston | weird | 01:37 |
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| Chilion | Gudmorning | 04:18 |
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| TheDeadCPU | Sup? | 07:33 |
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| stinebd | hmm they didn't bill me for the transfer overage | 10:39 |
| stinebd | what a nice provider | 10:40 |
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| stinebd | 319.49GB used | 10:41 |
| stinebd | would've been $2.93 | 10:42 |
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| |Jeroen| | thats cheap for 319 gb | 10:59 |
| |Jeroen| | here they ask 1? or so per gb | 10:59 |
| stinebd | i stumbled upon the best provider on earth | 11:00 |
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| wladston | I'm back to windows mobile. whenever I try to make a call now, it works for about 1 or 2 seconds, then the phone goes off, and then the device suddenly shuts down. any ideas ? | 11:15 |
| Xeeshu | wladston: Did you tried the soft reset? | 11:18 |
| wladston | yeah | 11:18 |
| Xeeshu | May be it fixes the issue... | 11:18 |
| wladston | (pressing the reset button on the side of the device, right ? ) | 11:19 |
| Xeeshu | What device do you have? | 11:19 |
| wladston | a RHOD100 | 11:19 |
| Xeeshu | Eh! no idea about that | 11:19 |
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| wladston | yeah | 11:20 |
| * Xeeshu thought this is for XDA's | 11:20 | |
| wladston | I've tried already about 5 times | 11:20 |
| wladston | on each time the same thing happens | 11:20 |
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| wladston | on #htc-linux they advised to hard reset | 11:23 |
| wladston | but me don't want to!!!!! | 11:23 |
| wladston | :D | 11:23 |
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| TheDeadCPU | Do a hard reset. | 11:27 |
| wladston | TheDeadCPU: hard reset == no contacts, programs, task list gone, calendar gone, settings gone, program settings/history gone .... it will take me hours to get it all back | 11:28 |
| TheDeadCPU | Lol sync to your google account | 11:29 |
| wladston | TheDeadCPU: it just syncs the calendar | 11:29 |
| wladston | oh, it syncs contacts too | 11:29 |
| TheDeadCPU | nope | 11:29 |
| wladston | nice | 11:29 |
| TheDeadCPU | Contacts, Calendar, Tasks :p | 11:30 |
| wladston | Tasks ?!?!!? | 11:30 |
| wladston | woa | 11:30 |
| wladston | great | 11:30 |
| NeoMatrixJR | TheDeadCPU: Tasks? how do you get tasks? I added springpad for tasks | 11:32 |
| TheDeadCPU | Well. I'm pretty sure there is task syncing to exchange servers. | 11:32 |
| TheDeadCPU | (Your google account is an exchange server) | 11:32 |
| NeoMatrixJR | wladston: get TitaniumBackup. Backup apps and settings, restore easy. Then all u gotta do is plug in your accounts when you reboot (and enable "unknown sources" per TB's instructions) | 11:33 |
| NeoMatrixJR | TheDeadCPU: yes, but what app does tasks? | 11:33 |
| TheDeadCPU | dunno | 11:33 |
| stinebd | jonpry told you to flash hardspl, not hard reset | 11:33 |
| wladston | those aren't the same ? | 11:33 |
| stinebd | no | 11:33 |
| * wladston search flash hardspl | 11:33 | |
| stinebd | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008 | 11:34 |
| NeoMatrixJR | ~apt hardspl | 11:34 |
| NeoMatrixJR | oh, wrong channel **hardspl | 11:35 |
| NeoMatrixJR | ok, nevermind | 11:35 |
| wladston | stinebd: I have flashed a hardspl about 1 year ago ... to update to winmo 6.5 | 11:36 |
| NeoMatrixJR | any reason system_server would be running 95+% of my CPU? | 11:36 |
| stinebd | flashing hardspl again tends to fix issues in device firmwares | 11:36 |
| wladston | right | 11:36 |
| stinebd | for instance, wistilt2 bricked microp while working on rhodium leds. he had to flash hardspl to get microp working again. | 11:36 |
| wladston | hummm interesting ... what is microp ? | 11:37 |
| NeoMatrixJR | Interesting news for CDMA TP2 owners the other day. Seems someone in WinMo land DID manage to get the FM chip working. It's a hack right now with issues so it's unreleased, but the hardware DOES work! | 11:38 |
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| NeoMatrixJR | oh and for the winmo side get spb backup. as long as you're re-flashing the same rom it should restore everything, although I admit I haven't used it. | 11:43 |
| wladston | well, it works on android | 11:43 |
| wladston | I think this forces me to keep using android till I have more time to deal with the hardspl flash | 11:44 |
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| Fusion1 | hello | 11:52 |
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| Fusion1 | Anyone knows a bit about that OTA update feature ? | 11:55 |
| Fusion1 | im unable to update xdandroid thru the statup util, and since i dont know how xdandroid works, unable to update my current version | 11:56 |
| Fusion1 | i understand there's the rootfs, then the system FRX02.. is there any other files that need to be updated ? | 11:56 |
| Fusion1 | then the zImages and modules.. kinda confused on what do i really need/want to update | 11:59 |
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| wladston | Fusion1: OTA was completed 2 days ago | 12:00 |
| wladston | I guess it's not available yet | 12:00 |
| wladston | Fusion1: to update to FRX02 just get its image.ext, along with the newewst zImage and rootfs, put that on andboot and viola | 12:01 |
| wladston | *voila | 12:01 |
| NeoMatrixJR | Fusion1: don't forget you'll have to wipe you data.img if you're updating to FRX02. It will build a new one, but it's the equivalent of a hard-reset. | 12:02 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I recommend titanium backup for android if you want to save your stuff | 12:02 |
| wladston | stinebd: now that you are here, I wanted permission to created a new wiki page, as an introduction help for new developers that don't know much about android development ( like me ) | 12:03 |
| wladston | stinebd: is it ok ? | 12:03 |
| wladston | stinebd: hopefully it will help the project get new patches from the outer space | 12:04 |
| Fusion1 | data.img contains ? | 12:10 |
| Fusion1 | i dont care much about starting up clean | 12:10 |
| wladston | user data | 12:11 |
| Fusion1 | How do i find how which version of the kernel im currently running | 12:11 |
| Fusion1 | can i see from android ? | 12:11 |
| wladston | use the terminal emulator | 12:11 |
| wladston | on dev tools -> terminal | 12:11 |
| Fusion1 | um | 12:11 |
| Fusion1 | ah! | 12:12 |
| Fusion1 | then.. any special input ? | 12:12 |
| wladston | I think uname should work (never tried tho) | 12:12 |
| Fusion1 | uname says linux. | 12:12 |
| wladston | $ uname -a | 12:12 |
| stinebd | wladston: go ahead and create it, but don't link it anywhere. then show me what the finished product is and we'll talk. | 12:13 |
| wladston | stinebd: great, will do | 12:13 |
| stinebd | it's not a matter of can you or should you, more a matter of where we should link it from | 12:13 |
| stinebd | and if it | 12:14 |
| wladston | stinebd: sure :) | 12:14 |
| stinebd | and if it's comprehensive, be sure to use sections a lot so we can link to different sections from different articles | 12:14 |
| wladston | sure! I'm a wiki editor too | 12:14 |
| wladston | I edit wiki.s1mp3.org | 12:14 |
| wladston | a project I tried to start a long ago to write an OS for a 8-bit z80 mp3 player | 12:15 |
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| wladston | although it's a holiday here in brazil today, I'm off for the post office ... be back later | 12:16 |
| Fusion1 | wladston, says 2.6.27.46-01212-ge59fdaf #117 | 12:16 |
| wladston | Fusion1: that's your kernel | 12:16 |
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| Mistro_ | hey guys, just wondering if I could ask a question about building xdandroid here | 12:19 |
| Fusion1 | wladston, rootfs is the kernel ? or there's other files that are part of the kernel also | 12:20 |
| Fusion1 | how can i identify which one i currenly have installed from that number, from http://files.xdandroid.com/rootfs/ ? | 12:21 |
| Fusion1 | i dont see any reference to 01212 or ge59fdaf | 12:21 |
| wladston | Fusion1: kernel | 12:28 |
| wladston | Fusion1: and those are the rootfs | 12:28 |
| wladston | rootfs != kernel | 12:28 |
| Fusion1 | okay | 12:28 |
| wladston | you are safe to replace the kernel and rootfs with newer ones | 12:28 |
| wladston | won't affect you | 12:29 |
| Fusion1 | kernel is which files ? | 12:29 |
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| Fusion1 | the image.ext and zImage ? | 12:29 |
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| Mistro_ | quick question, so I was following the guide for building the zImage, but when doing it I get the following error: | 12:45 |
| Mistro_ | make: *** No rule to make target `out/target/product/generic/obj/lib/librpc.so', needed by `out/target/product/generic/obj/SHARED_LIBRARIES/libhardware_legacy_intermediates/LINKED/libhardware_legacy.so'. Stop. | 12:45 |
| Mistro_ | i made sure i have all the build config as specified, and all required libraries installed on the build system... any ideas? | 12:45 |
| Mistro_ | One thing I noticed is that even if i set the target to be full_msn, it still gets outputted as generic before the build starts | 12:46 |
| emwe | Mistro: sh ./build/envsetup.sh ? | 12:48 |
| emwe | Mistro_: just a guess.. | 12:49 |
| Mistro_ | yea, i checked in there. There's one part that forces it to be generic, I've tried changing that to be msm but no luck | 12:53 |
| Mistro_ | export TARGET_PRODUCT=generic changed to export TARGET_PRODUCT=full_msm | 12:54 |
| stinebd | export? | 12:54 |
| stinebd | you should be using buildspec.mk | 12:54 |
| Mistro_ | yup, it's set in there as well, i tried changing envsetup.sh after it doesn't seem to read from buildspec.mk | 12:54 |
| Mistro_ | made a copy of the .default and added the parameters as specified on the wiki guide, including "TARGET_PRODUCT:=full_msm" | 12:55 |
| stinebd | is that exactly how you wrote it? | 12:55 |
| Mistro_ | basically copied and pasted from teh wiki, yes | 12:56 |
| stinebd | well you did something wrong then | 12:56 |
| stinebd | because copying and pasting verbatim will make it work | 12:56 |
| stinebd | you don't even need to make a copy of the default | 12:56 |
| stinebd | just paste all that into an empty buildspec.mk in aosp root and you're done | 12:56 |
| Mistro_ | hm, lemme try with an empty one | 12:57 |
| Mistro_ | AHH | 12:57 |
| Mistro_ | aosp root? | 12:57 |
| Mistro_ | ok that could be it... mine's still in the build folder | 12:57 |
| Mistro_ | :) | 12:57 |
| stinebd | Simply create a blank plain-text file in the root of your XDAndroid source tree. Name the file buildspec.mk and edit it with your preferred text editor. | 12:57 |
| Mistro_ | awesome, let me give that a shot thanks | 12:57 |
| stinebd | people really have short attention spans these days. anything not written in list form gets ignored :P | 12:59 |
| Mistro_ | haha yea i skimmed over the part that said "in the root of your XDAndroid source tree" :$ | 13:00 |
| Mistro_ | i just looked for buildspec and assumed it should go in the same place as the .default lol | 13:00 |
| Mistro_ | ok seems to be going now, thanks stinebd! | 13:00 |
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| wladston | back | 14:26 |
| wladston | let me spin that wiki page | 14:26 |
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| groton | just an easy question: does xdandroid supports DIAM100? i would really like to run android on it :) | 16:38 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 16:40 |
| groton | ok. I just downloaded a bunch of files from internet like: modules-2.6.27.46-01215-g0d9a989.tar.gz , haret-0.5.2.zip , rootfs-20101029-2f5744a.zip , htc-msm-linux-20101031_215910-package.tar.bz2 , xdandroid.2.2.aosp.frx01.17.09.10.update_package .... but i am not sure how to keep track of all the changes... is there a page listing a complete package where to download an android version for diam100? | 16:44 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:45 |
| arrrghhh | did you check the DIAM section of XDA? | 16:45 |
| arrrghhh | there's a lot to learn with this project. | 16:46 |
| groton | yes, it requires a lot of time to get it right :) What is the DIAM section of XDA? Up to know, i found this two useful links: http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Downloads and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711692 | 16:47 |
| groton | s/know/now | 16:47 |
| arrrghhh | did you not notice that second link? | 16:49 |
| arrrghhh | you're in the touchpro section of xda-devs with that second link. | 16:49 |
| arrrghhh | where did you find those links?!? | 16:49 |
| arrrghhh | i'm always baffled at how people find stuff for this projects, but can't find stuff for their device. | 16:50 |
| groton | :D | 16:50 |
| arrrghhh | but yea that second link has everything you need. | 16:50 |
| groton | thanks | 16:51 |
| g3rm | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732362 <-- the easy way for android on htc devices :) | 16:51 |
| g3rm | little outdated tho... but you can get the general idea | 16:52 |
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| wladston | hey arrrghhh, you there ? | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | yea what's up | 18:03 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: wanted you to check out the guide I'm creating | 18:05 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 18:06 |
| wladston | http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Getting_started_XDAndroid_development | 18:06 |
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| arrrghhh | wladston: so far so good | 18:10 |
| arrrghhh | need to linkify the crap out of it tho :P | 18:10 |
| wladston | yeah | 18:10 |
| wladston | will do that with time | 18:10 |
| arrrghhh | have some grammatical issues too :P | 18:10 |
| wladston | I'm more concerned about the content | 18:10 |
| arrrghhh | but i'm a grammar nazi. | 18:10 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:10 |
| arrrghhh | like i said so far so good :P | 18:10 |
| wladston | hehe, sure, english isn't my mother language after all | 18:10 |
| arrrghhh | mother schmother | 18:10 |
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| arrrghhh | yea all the stuff at the bottom is greek to me | 18:15 |
| arrrghhh | but other than that it looks good. | 18:15 |
| arrrghhh | is the rootfs only for keyboard layout? | 18:15 |
| g3rm | i belive it does more | 18:15 |
| g3rm | but i'm no expert here... ask stinebd :) | 18:16 |
| arrrghhh | just seems like 15mb file would do more than just kb layout when a 1.6mb file does basically all driver support :P | 18:16 |
| g3rm | lol | 18:17 |
| g3rm | i'm sure it does many things in userland | 18:18 |
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| wladston | arrrghhh: no, for sure it does more .... but the only thing I know it does it that | 18:20 |
| arrrghhh | ic | 18:21 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: I'm going to explain the botton part in a better way | 18:22 |
| g3rm | wladston: like I said, stinebd is doing rootfs for us... he should know everthing | 18:22 |
| wladston | but basically, I'm trying to map everything on the /device/xdandroid folder | 18:22 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: from what I've seen, everything the build "uses" is defined there | 18:24 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 18:25 |
| wladston | what is the AndroidBoard.mk file ? is it the equivalent to the Android.mk file they cite on the docs ? | 18:52 |
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| wladston | arrrghhh: I would like some help googling | 19:04 |
| arrrghhh | ? | 19:05 |
| wladston | all build seen to have an AndroidBoard.mk file | 19:05 |
| wladston | however, there is no documentation about that file | 19:05 |
| wladston | I can't find what is it for anywhere | 19:05 |
| wladston | It looks very much like definitions that get called whenever the board it belongs to get called | 19:06 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know what the file is either... | 19:07 |
| wladston | yeah , but we ( I ) need to figure it out | 19:07 |
| wladston | any suggestions ? | 19:07 |
| arrrghhh | for what tho? | 19:07 |
| arrrghhh | it seems like something that's only in 'normal' android builds. | 19:08 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: yeah .. because I want to make a good documentation | 19:10 |
| arrrghhh | but if it's not in our build... | 19:10 |
| arrrghhh | probably shouldn't be part of our docs ;) | 19:10 |
| wladston | yeah | 19:11 |
| wladston | it's part of the "default" builds | 19:11 |
| wladston | our build has it | 19:11 |
| wladston | htc build have it too | 19:11 |
| arrrghhh | seems like it's a vendor configuration file | 19:12 |
| arrrghhh | http://github.com/koush/android_vendor_google_passion/blob/eclair/AndroidBoard.mk | 19:12 |
| wladston | well, I'll just assume it's a "android board makefile" | 19:12 |
| wladston | yeah, ours look a lot like this one | 19:13 |
| arrrghhh | that seems like a safe assumption. | 19:13 |
| wladston | yeah | 19:14 |
| Fusion1 | evening | 19:21 |
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| Fusion1 | hello | 20:39 |
| Fusion1 | can anyone help for a few to get the latest xdandroid running on my tp2 ? | 20:40 |
| Fusion1 | :| | 20:40 |
| wladston | Fusion1: what is your problem ? | 20:43 |
| wladston | kernel panic ? | 20:43 |
| Fusion1 | no, i just dont know how to properly update my phone myself | 20:44 |
| Fusion1 | i dont know which files i need, and what's the procedure to follow | 20:44 |
| wladston | ahn | 20:45 |
| wladston | ok | 20:45 |
| wladston | http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/downloads | 20:46 |
| wladston | cab file didn't work for me | 20:46 |
| wladston | so I'd suggest you try the rar | 20:46 |
| Fusion1 | same here, didnt work for me either | 20:46 |
| Fusion1 | but it's been a while since its been updated | 20:46 |
| Fusion1 | i just saw a few minutes ago he added the reference build | 20:47 |
| Fusion1 | but i wonder if the blazn build would be better | 20:47 |
| Fusion1 | im gonna try the reference for now | 20:47 |
| Fusion1 | so if someone wants to build his own stuff, the 'kitchen' is needed right | 20:48 |
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| arrrghhh | reference is probably best to start with. | 20:49 |
| arrrghhh | there's no kitchen... this isn't winmo my friend ;) | 20:49 |
| wladston | the rar file ? no, it has the lastest "release" | 20:50 |
| wladston | but if you want the LATEST, you'll have to build the source locally | 20:51 |
| arrrghhh | wladston, remember not everyone is a developer :P | 20:51 |
| Fusion1 | from this page : http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/downloads | 20:51 |
| Fusion1 | My Android builds come from the AOSP kitchen of Stinedb and the XDAndroid Kernel Developers. I try to keep my OS builds as up to date as possible with the repo. This is the same build as the famous babijoee's build for the TP, thanks to him for teaching me how to cook! :) | 20:51 |
| wladston | stinebd: I have a suggestion. why not move unzip-files.sh and setup-makefiles.sh, that are on the msm folder, to the msm/tools folder ? | 20:52 |
| Fusion1 | this is why i said, kitchen :P | 20:52 |
| wladston | stinebd: I think it would help organize the msm folder | 20:52 |
| arrrghhh | Fusion1, well... i thought you were wanting to make your own builds. | 20:52 |
| Fusion1 | arrrghhh, maybe he was wrong.. i don't know :) | 20:52 |
| Fusion1 | AOSP kitchen of Stinedb - means ? :) | 20:52 |
| arrrghhh | eh AOSP can be a kitchen lol | 20:52 |
| Fusion1 | aosp is ? | 20:52 |
| arrrghhh | AOSP = android open source project | 20:53 |
| Fusion1 | lol, thanks | 20:53 |
| arrrghhh | basically the android base. | 20:53 |
| Fusion1 | alright. sorry | 20:53 |
| Fusion1 | okay so, i'll use the builds from that page | 20:53 |
| arrrghhh | no need to be sorry. | 20:53 |
| Fusion1 | basically, i need to format and redownload and start from scratch each time right | 20:54 |
| arrrghhh | oh no | 20:54 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: do you know if stinebd uses the free node message service ? | 20:54 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: most of times I try to talk to him he is away | 20:54 |
| arrrghhh | Fusion1, you can just update in pieces. so you can update the zimage/modules and be just fine. | 20:54 |
| arrrghhh | wladston, not sure what that is... | 20:54 |
| arrrghhh | he reads the logs tho | 20:54 |
| arrrghhh | if you have something pressing. | 20:54 |
| wladston | ahn, ok | 20:54 |
| Fusion1 | arrrghhh, hey, the startup.txt and default.txt, are they generated by the startup utility or they are still needed ? | 20:54 |
| arrrghhh | startup.txt is generated from the startup utility yes | 20:55 |
| arrrghhh | it is still needed if you don't use the utility. | 20:55 |
| Fusion1 | zimage/modules is ALL that is needed ? | 20:55 |
| arrrghhh | Fusion1, no that's kernel updates. | 20:55 |
| arrrghhh | so there's also rootfs updates | 20:55 |
| arrrghhh | and VERY infrequent initrd updates. | 20:55 |
| Fusion1 | what's contained in the rootfs | 20:55 |
| arrrghhh | oh and system base image updates. | 20:55 |
| Fusion1 | yeah ive seen initrd has been the same for a whule | 20:55 |
| Fusion1 | while | 20:55 |
| arrrghhh | Fusion1, all sorts of stuff. keyboard mapping and probably a lot of other stuff too. why? | 20:56 |
| Fusion1 | just wondering.. like to understand what im messing with.. just the basics, at least. | 20:56 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. | 20:56 |
| arrrghhh | are you compiling them? | 20:56 |
| arrrghhh | or just grabbing the compiled binaries? | 20:56 |
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| Fusion1 | 2nd choice | 20:57 |
| arrrghhh | eh don't sweat it for the time being. | 20:58 |
| arrrghhh | wladston is trying to make a comprehensive guide | 20:58 |
| Fusion1 | still wanted to understand a bit.. it crashes when i tried to update my stuff on the phone using the startup utility, a decompression error.. phone was unstable all day since | 20:58 |
| arrrghhh | but it's not quite done | 20:58 |
| arrrghhh | and the technical bits aren't so important. | 20:58 |
| arrrghhh | Fusion1, the update utility was updated to 1.3.1... | 20:58 |
| Fusion1 | i think i'll start from scratch, for now. format, extract rar and i'll be fine | 20:58 |
| Fusion1 | yeah | 20:58 |
| arrrghhh | i'd rather update manually myself, so i know what i'm updating to. | 20:58 |
| Fusion1 | but 1.3.1 crashed while updating my stuff | 20:58 |
| arrrghhh | dunno. | 20:58 |
| arrrghhh | i don't use it. ever. | 20:58 |
| Fusion1 | and since, phone was funny. | 20:58 |
| arrrghhh | can't really support it either. | 20:59 |
| Fusion1 | true, understand that | 20:59 |
| arrrghhh | sov supports it, it's not officially part of XDAndroid. | 20:59 |
| Fusion1 | that's why im trying to understand, when there's an update.. what do i need to update | 20:59 |
| arrrghhh | well | 20:59 |
| arrrghhh | you update the piece that needs updating :P | 20:59 |
| arrrghhh | sometimes it's a system image | 20:59 |
| arrrghhh | sometimes rootfs | 20:59 |
| arrrghhh | sometimes zimage/modules | 21:00 |
| arrrghhh | sometimes it's all three. | 21:00 |
| Fusion1 | yeah, but how do i know, that there isnt any files relative to the update like config files that will prevent a good operation | 21:00 |
| arrrghhh | well if there's a new kernel option for the startup you mean? | 21:00 |
| Fusion1 | system image.. that's just a file also ? | 21:00 |
| arrrghhh | it'll mention it in the update. | 21:00 |
| arrrghhh | system.ext2 is the system image. | 21:00 |
| Fusion1 | and that file is directly on the sd ? | 21:01 |
| Fusion1 | ah. | 21:01 |
| Fusion1 | k | 21:01 |
| arrrghhh | where you run haret.exe from. | 21:01 |
| arrrghhh | i have several builds on my sd. | 21:01 |
| Fusion1 | and you specify diff. params to boot the one you want ? | 21:01 |
| arrrghhh | yea, i have a startup.txt for each | 21:01 |
| Fusion1 | ok | 21:02 |
| arrrghhh | they're complete builds on their own | 21:02 |
| arrrghhh | and then i just have them in different folders | 21:02 |
| Fusion1 | so all the user config goes into data.img ? | 21:02 |
| Fusion1 | what's that file for | 21:02 |
| arrrghhh | basically | 21:02 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 21:02 |
| Fusion1 | ok | 21:02 |
| arrrghhh | it's created on first boot | 21:02 |
| arrrghhh | all changes, apps, etc go in there. | 21:02 |
| Fusion1 | so that file is always compatible thru the different kernel, modules, and diff updates ? | 21:02 |
| Fusion1 | i can be backuped and restored to keep all the settings ? | 21:03 |
| Fusion1 | apps.. um | 21:03 |
| arrrghhh | no | 21:03 |
| arrrghhh | it breaks quite frequently in fact | 21:03 |
| Fusion1 | just wondering about what to keep to restore configs | 21:03 |
| Fusion1 | k | 21:03 |
| arrrghhh | #1 troubleshooting step is deleting that file. | 21:03 |
| arrrghhh | i guess not always :P | 21:03 |
| Fusion1 | so better off taking a few mins and restarting from scratch when there's updates | 21:03 |
| Fusion1 | k | 21:03 |
| arrrghhh | but quite often when something isn't working right, we ask people to delete it. | 21:03 |
| Fusion1 | right | 21:03 |
| arrrghhh | yea you don't have to delete that file when you update | 21:03 |
| arrrghhh | nothing stopping you from trying | 21:04 |
| Fusion1 | but it CAN cause issues | 21:04 |
| arrrghhh | just be prepared to delete it. | 21:04 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 21:04 |
| Fusion1 | the more issues i can stay away from, the better | 21:04 |
| arrrghhh | titanium backup can take care of most of the things that need to be backed up when you blow that file away. | 21:04 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: updated the guide, it now has a description for every file | 21:04 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Getting_started_XDAndroid_development | 21:04 |
| arrrghhh | schweet | 21:04 |
| Fusion1 | titanium backup.. ok ! thanks arrrghhh | 21:04 |
| arrrghhh | np | 21:05 |
| * arrrghhh is a wealth of useful and useless knowledge. | 21:05 | |
| Fusion1 | why was always a format suggested for the sd card | 21:06 |
| Fusion1 | a full format ? or a quick | 21:06 |
| arrrghhh | not really sure tbh | 21:06 |
| arrrghhh | well | 21:06 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: the first part that needs help is the HaRET boot loader part. | 21:06 |
| Fusion1 | just wondered if there was anything special there | 21:06 |
| arrrghhh | as long as you're not using the windows utility | 21:06 |
| arrrghhh | or winmo | 21:06 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: if you know any of the missing info regarding the boot sequence | 21:06 |
| arrrghhh | i think the partition table gets hosed | 21:06 |
| Fusion1 | im using the windows utility | 21:06 |
| wladston | fill in | 21:06 |
| arrrghhh | and windows never touches it | 21:07 |
| arrrghhh | Fusion1, don't. | 21:07 |
| Fusion1 | why ? | 21:07 |
| arrrghhh | i just told you why. | 21:07 |
| Fusion1 | it worked fine for me, so far | 21:07 |
| arrrghhh | it does work, but not always. | 21:07 |
| Fusion1 | the partition table.. of the sd card ? | 21:07 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 21:07 |
| Fusion1 | um. | 21:07 |
| arrrghhh | that's my theory. | 21:07 |
| Fusion1 | and what's good to use ? | 21:07 |
| Fusion1 | a 3rd party app ? | 21:07 |
| arrrghhh | i like the hp storage format tool | 21:07 |
| arrrghhh | gparted is good if you use linux... | 21:07 |
| Fusion1 | used it a lot, ok | 21:07 |
| arrrghhh | there's others | 21:07 |
| Fusion1 | i use the hp format tool daily for bios updates on usb sticks | 21:07 |
| arrrghhh | basically anything but the windows utility. | 21:08 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 21:08 |
| arrrghhh | there you go. | 21:08 |
| Fusion1 | fat32 is ok? | 21:08 |
| arrrghhh | yea, my theory is the partition table. not sure why cards get screwed up & a format fixes 'em tho. just had too many people complain that they formatted 15x and it still doesn't work, and then they use ANYTHING else and it's working. | 21:08 |
| arrrghhh | fat32 is the only way :P | 21:08 |
| arrrghhh | there's some builds that require an ext2 partition | 21:08 |
| arrrghhh | but you still have to have a fat32 partition. | 21:09 |
| Fusion1 | what do you do for a living ? | 21:11 |
| Fusion1 | work for android ? hehe | 21:11 |
| * wladston is a computer science student | 21:11 | |
| arrrghhh | ... work for android? really dude? | 21:12 |
| * wladston wants | 21:12 | |
| arrrghhh | 1st, it'd be google. | 21:12 |
| wladston | D: | 21:12 |
| wladston | :D | 21:12 |
| Fusion1 | yeah | 21:12 |
| arrrghhh | 2nd, i don't think any google employees that worked on android would help with this project. | 21:12 |
| wladston | LOL | 21:12 |
| arrrghhh | although that would be amazing, there'd probably be a conflict of interest. | 21:12 |
| Fusion1 | is it illegal in any way ? | 21:12 |
| wladston | yeah | 21:12 |
| arrrghhh | well | 21:13 |
| wladston | i mean | 21:13 |
| arrrghhh | not illegal | 21:13 |
| wladston | kinda of | 21:13 |
| Fusion1 | kind of grey i guess ? | 21:13 |
| arrrghhh | depends on what the employee divulges i guess. | 21:13 |
| wladston | nope, xdandroid is technically legal | 21:13 |
| wladston | but any complete distribution of it won't be | 21:13 |
| wladston | because it uses proprietary software from other sources | 21:13 |
| Fusion1 | even if not making a dime off it | 21:13 |
| arrrghhh | wladston, really? because of the proprietary stuff? | 21:14 |
| arrrghhh | yea. | 21:14 |
| arrrghhh | damn. | 21:14 |
| wladston | that have to be obtained at build time | 21:14 |
| arrrghhh | Fusion1, htc doesn't sanction it :P | 21:14 |
| wladston | but xdandroid aline is 100% legal | 21:14 |
| wladston | as far as I can tell | 21:14 |
| wladston | *alone | 21:14 |
| arrrghhh | and we just try to make due with what we can, which it sounds like there still is some proprietary stuff. | 21:14 |
| wladston | Fusion1: the htc touch pro2 has almost the exact same hardware as the newer android phones they are sellig | 21:15 |
| Fusion1 | yeah | 21:15 |
| Fusion1 | wondering why they didnt ship it with it then ? | 21:15 |
| arrrghhh | lol hardly. | 21:15 |
| wladston | if people could just upgrade their old phones to android they wouldn't buy the new | 21:15 |
| wladston | not good for htc | 21:15 |
| arrrghhh | there's only a couple of android phones with msm procs. | 21:15 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: I mean hardware capability | 21:15 |
| arrrghhh | most are qsd it seems. | 21:15 |
| arrrghhh | what do you mean? | 21:16 |
| Fusion1 | videotron here has the nexus one | 21:16 |
| Fusion1 | seems to be a nice phone | 21:16 |
| Fusion1 | anyone has tried one of these ? | 21:16 |
| arrrghhh | yea, not even close to the tp2's hardware. | 21:16 |
| arrrghhh | Fusion1, in what way? just using it? | 21:16 |
| Fusion1 | yeah | 21:16 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 21:16 |
| Fusion1 | cpu isnt more powerful ? | 21:16 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd has one in fact. | 21:16 |
| arrrghhh | yea, it's qsd. | 21:16 |
| Fusion1 | specs says its 1ghz | 21:16 |
| arrrghhh | like 2x the processor of tp2 :P | 21:17 |
| Fusion1 | sqd ? | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | yep | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | qsd | 21:17 |
| Fusion1 | means ? | 21:17 |
| Fusion1 | ah | 21:17 |
| wladston | really ? | 21:17 |
| Fusion1 | the cpu | 21:17 |
| Fusion1 | k | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | snapdragon | 21:17 |
| stinebd | beautiful phone | 21:17 |
| Fusion1 | so why say not even close to the tp2 hw | 21:17 |
| stinebd | worth $530 | 21:17 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: I've been thinking about buying an android phone too | 21:17 |
| Fusion1 | the tp2 has more bells and whisles ? | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | Fusion1, try less. | 21:17 |
| stinebd | it blows the TP2 out of the water | 21:17 |
| Fusion1 | yeah | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | bells & whilstes? i thought we were talking hardware. | 21:17 |
| arrrghhh | like processor, ram... internal memory | 21:18 |
| arrrghhh | screen | 21:18 |
| Fusion1 | k | 21:18 |
| arrrghhh | camera | 21:18 |
| wladston | stinebd: you're talking about snapdragon ? | 21:18 |
| Fusion1 | so the nexus is better | 21:18 |
| arrrghhh | uh... yea. | 21:18 |
| Fusion1 | well im stuck with the tp2 for years | 21:18 |
| arrrghhh | years? | 21:18 |
| Fusion1 | at least 1 more so | 21:18 |
| Fusion1 | i'll live with it hehe | 21:18 |
| arrrghhh | eh i'm not under contract. | 21:18 |
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| Fusion1 | bbl. | 21:18 |
| arrrghhh | tp2 is old mang. | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | stupid htc just rebranded the tp1 basically. | 21:19 |
| stinebd | bigger screen | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | gave it a bigger screen & body w/a tilt screen lol that's about it. | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | better kbd | 21:19 |
| arrrghhh | 3.5mm out | 21:20 |
| Fusion1 | mine has the 3.5mm out :) | 21:20 |
| Fusion1 | tp2 | 21:20 |
| stinebd | random button configurations based on region | 21:20 |
| Fusion1 | telus version has it, for some reason | 21:20 |
| arrrghhh | Fusion1, all cdma ones do. | 21:20 |
| arrrghhh | rhod400/500 | 21:20 |
| Fusion1 | none of the hard cases fit on it, by the same way | 21:20 |
| Fusion1 | have to mod it a bit | 21:20 |
| Fusion1 | yeah | 21:20 |
| arrrghhh | Fusion1, just get a case for the rhod400/500 | 21:20 |
| Fusion1 | 500 here | 21:20 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: a htc evo 4g here costs USD 893 | 21:20 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: so it's really a pain | 21:21 |
| wladston | :( | 21:21 |
| arrrghhh | wladston, lol not for me :P | 21:21 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: if you know anyone who is travelling to brazil | 21:21 |
| arrrghhh | although my mogul back in the day was like $330 | 21:21 |
| arrrghhh | wladston, can't buy one for ya sorry :P | 21:21 |
| arrrghhh | evo is cdma-only, what good does that do you anyways? | 21:22 |
| wladston | a TP2 costs USD 762 | 21:22 |
| wladston | if I could sell mine for that .... | 21:22 |
| arrrghhh | that's outrageous. | 21:22 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:22 |
| wladston | since mine is used, it values about half the price | 21:22 |
| arrrghhh | man i should sell my tp2 in brazil apparently haha | 21:22 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 21:22 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: that's a very good business | 21:22 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 21:22 |
| wladston | searching better, found a TP2 for 411 | 21:23 |
| wladston | that's as low as one can find I guess | 21:23 |
| arrrghhh | damn | 21:23 |
| wladston | mine values about 325 I guess | 21:23 |
| wladston | still, the evo is USD 893 | 21:24 |
| arrrghhh | you couldn't use the evo tho. | 21:24 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: why ? | 21:25 |
| arrrghhh | cdma only? | 21:25 |
| arrrghhh | there's no gsm evo dude :P | 21:25 |
| wladston | auch | 21:25 |
| wladston | :( | 21:25 |
| arrrghhh | good thing you didn't pull the trigger on one! | 21:26 |
| wladston | well, the desire has the same price | 21:26 |
| wladston | :D | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | there you go. | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | desire HD is about the same. | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | aluminum unibody | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | just harder to get into :P | 21:26 |
| wladston | no gms ??? | 21:26 |
| Fusion1 | um | 21:26 |
| wladston | weird, they are selling them here | 21:26 |
| arrrghhh | evo? | 21:27 |
| wladston | no, the desire | 21:27 |
| Fusion1 | my phone isnt doing good with that latest build on the mattreffersomething site | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 21:27 |
| Fusion1 | rebooting | 21:27 |
| wladston | desire is 820 | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | yea you can get a desire | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | that's gsm | 21:27 |
| Fusion1 | :| | 21:27 |
| wladston | but for 820 bucks | 21:27 |
| Fusion1 | is there any log i can check if android reboots ? | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | dmesg? | 21:27 |
| wladston | I'd have to pay 495 bucks even loosing my tp2 | 21:27 |
| Fusion1 | phone resets after like 30 seconds its booted into android | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | every time? | 21:28 |
| Fusion1 | yep | 21:28 |
| Fusion1 | 2 times now | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | you're using the reference build right? | 21:28 |
| wladston | oh | 21:28 |
| Fusion1 | havent had a chance to do anything on it | 21:28 |
| Fusion1 | yes | 21:28 |
| wladston | mine resets sometimes too | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | hrm. | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | delete your data.img | 21:28 |
| Fusion1 | reference that just has been posted on the project android site | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | try again :P | 21:28 |
| Fusion1 | started from scratch | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | did he post a new build? | 21:28 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: the GREATEST problem in using the build on production is the lack of service | 21:28 |
| wladston | sometimes it will just say that I have no service and that's it | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 21:28 |
| wladston | have to boot back to winmo | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | same here | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | glad it happens on gsm too | 21:29 |
| arrrghhh | means it may be fixed :P | 21:29 |
| wladston | lol | 21:29 |
| arrrghhh | it's random too | 21:29 |
| arrrghhh | i had an incoming call today and it worked just fine, nearly 5 minutes | 21:29 |
| Fusion1 | do i NEED default and startup if im using the startup util ? | 21:29 |
| arrrghhh | had a 30 second outbound call like 30 mins later, and radio reset. | 21:30 |
| wladston | arght I'm itching to buy that htc desire in 12x on my credit card | 21:30 |
| arrrghhh | Fusion1, no i guess not. | 21:30 |
| arrrghhh | default certainly isn't needed. | 21:30 |
| arrrghhh | but i wouldn't use the startup utility. | 21:30 |
| Fusion1 | why ? | 21:30 |
| arrrghhh | causes all sorts of weird problems. | 21:30 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: just to have an idea, how long do you think they will take to fix the network service issue ? | 21:30 |
| arrrghhh | and i can't really support something i don't use :P | 21:30 |
| wladston | but i wouldn't use the startup utility [2] | 21:31 |
| arrrghhh | wladston, dunno, i don't think we have any ril wizzes. | 21:31 |
| wladston | ril wizzes == ??? | 21:31 |
| arrrghhh | RIL | 21:31 |
| arrrghhh | radio interface layer i believe | 21:31 |
| arrrghhh | basically the code that interacts directly with the radio. | 21:31 |
| arrrghhh | wizzes == smart guys :P | 21:31 |
| arrrghhh | whizzes? | 21:32 |
| arrrghhh | eh, either way. | 21:32 |
| wladston | ahn | 21:32 |
| wladston | right | 21:32 |
| Fusion1 | hey | 21:32 |
| wladston | well, I'll take at least 6 months to become one | 21:32 |
| Fusion1 | do you guys know by any luck how to enable the quick search bar in android ? | 21:32 |
| arrrghhh | wladston, lol with me it'll never happen so better late than never... | 21:33 |
| wladston | so I think we are out of luck :D | 21:33 |
| Fusion1 | the google thing, the bar where you can search directly from home | 21:33 |
| arrrghhh | Fusion1, just add the widget. | 21:33 |
| Fusion1 | it might be stupid, but i dint find out | 21:33 |
| Fusion1 | from ? | 21:33 |
| Fusion1 | the market ? | 21:33 |
| arrrghhh | no | 21:33 |
| Fusion1 | umm | 21:33 |
| Fusion1 | how ? | 21:33 |
| arrrghhh | long press on home screen | 21:33 |
| arrrghhh | widget | 21:33 |
| arrrghhh | google search | 21:33 |
| wladston | mine came with that by default | 21:33 |
| wladston | weird | 21:33 |
| Fusion1 | the reference does | 21:33 |
| Fusion1 | the blazn build didnt | 21:33 |
| wladston | ahn, k | 21:33 |
| Fusion1 | k, it still reboots | 21:33 |
| Fusion1 | argh | 21:33 |
| wladston | you have a RHOD100 too ? | 21:34 |
| Fusion1 | where is dmesg ? | 21:34 |
| Fusion1 | rhod500 | 21:34 |
| Fusion1 | searching on the sd card, dont see any file dmesg | 21:35 |
| Fusion1 | and i cant boot into android, resets really fast | 21:35 |
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| arrrghhh | ok stop | 21:37 |
| arrrghhh | let's break this down... | 21:37 |
| arrrghhh | when does it reboot | 21:37 |
| arrrghhh | do you see flying text | 21:37 |
| arrrghhh | the boot animation | 21:37 |
| arrrghhh | the lock screen...? | 21:38 |
| Fusion1 | yes | 21:39 |
| Fusion1 | up to the lock screen | 21:39 |
| arrrghhh | which | 21:39 |
| Fusion1 | i can unlock it | 21:39 |
| Fusion1 | and then | 21:39 |
| arrrghhh | so you get all the way to the lock screen? | 21:39 |
| arrrghhh | damn. | 21:39 |
| Fusion1 | yeah. | 21:39 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 21:39 |
| arrrghhh | let's try this | 21:39 |
| arrrghhh | boot again | 21:39 |
| Fusion1 | ok | 21:39 |
| arrrghhh | let it get to the lock screen | 21:39 |
| arrrghhh | let it sit | 21:39 |
| arrrghhh | see if it reboots on its own | 21:39 |
| wladston | ( make sure you are also disabling overclock btw) | 21:39 |
| Fusion1 | k | 21:39 |
| Fusion1 | no overclock here | 21:40 |
| arrrghhh | yea not sure what would make it reboot at the lock screen | 21:40 |
| arrrghhh | unless you had some funky build | 21:40 |
| Fusion1 | the one just posted on that android project page | 21:41 |
| arrrghhh | did you update it at all? | 21:41 |
| Fusion1 | http://reefermattness.scepterr.info/XDAndroid2.2Froyo.110110.rar | 21:41 |
| Fusion1 | no, stock from the rar file | 21:41 |
| Fusion1 | didnt change anything | 21:41 |
| arrrghhh | hmmm | 21:41 |
| arrrghhh | and what startup are you using? | 21:42 |
| Fusion1 | the one generated by the... | 21:42 |
| Fusion1 | you know | 21:42 |
| Fusion1 | startup.. util.. | 21:42 |
| Fusion1 | i look a look at it | 21:42 |
| Fusion1 | took | 21:42 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:42 |
| Fusion1 | it looked very similar | 21:42 |
| arrrghhh | well if it fails again | 21:43 |
| Fusion1 | to the other one i was using | 21:43 |
| Fusion1 | ok | 21:43 |
| arrrghhh | i'm going to ask you to use the startup from the faq. | 21:43 |
| Fusion1 | i will try. | 21:43 |
| arrrghhh | k | 21:43 |
| Fusion1 | so you say let it sit | 21:43 |
| Fusion1 | at lock | 21:43 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 21:43 |
| arrrghhh | for like 2-3 mins | 21:43 |
| arrrghhh | until the screen turns off | 21:43 |
| Fusion1 | i didnt try that | 21:43 |
| Fusion1 | i was always unlocking it. | 21:43 |
| arrrghhh | aren't you trying that now? | 21:43 |
| Fusion1 | yes, its booting. | 21:43 |
| arrrghhh | k | 21:43 |
| arrrghhh | you shouldn't have to do this fyi. just troubleshooting. | 21:44 |
| Fusion1 | its at the lock screen | 21:44 |
| Fusion1 | says (no service) | 21:44 |
| Fusion1 | screen went off. | 21:44 |
| Fusion1 | if i push back the top button, i can see it's still there | 21:44 |
| Fusion1 | i dont think its gonna reboot. | 21:45 |
| Fusion1 | nope, been too long. | 21:45 |
| Fusion1 | ah | 21:46 |
| Fusion1 | my bad | 21:46 |
| Fusion1 | it just rebooted. | 21:46 |
| Fusion1 | i noticed it didnt generate a default.txt... | 21:47 |
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| touch3 | anyone use the rhod400? Touch pro 2? | 21:48 |
| Fusion1 | tp2 rhod500 here | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | rhod400 | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | Fusion1, default.txt is a backup so-to-speak. the startup utility used to 0 out the startup.txt, so we would tell people to create the default.txt so they could at least still boot. | 21:49 |
| arrrghhh | it's not required. only the startup.txt file is required. grab it from the faq and do NOT use the startup utility once you put a manual startup in. | 21:50 |
| Fusion1 | ah k | 21:50 |
| arrrghhh | i've downloaded the lastest bundle, i'll see if there's something wrong with it. | 21:50 |
| Fusion1 | well ive compared the 2 files | 21:50 |
| Fusion1 | the one generated and the one on the faq | 21:50 |
| Fusion1 | didnt seem to have much difference. only things were the generated one added rel_path=andboot north_am_dialing=0. | 21:51 |
| Fusion1 | so its something else | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | lol ok | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | so what is it then? | 21:51 |
| wladston | rhod100 here | 21:52 |
| Fusion1 | im far far from knowing enough about android to figure that out im affraid arrrghhh :( | 21:52 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:52 |
| arrrghhh | well did you actually do a diff on the startups? | 21:52 |
| arrrghhh | or did you just visually compare them,. | 21:52 |
| wladston | must do a diff | 21:53 |
| Fusion1 | visually | 21:53 |
| arrrghhh | i'll try the newest bundle myself now. | 21:53 |
| Fusion1 | i plugged in the phone | 21:53 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:53 |
| arrrghhh | c'mon dude. | 21:53 |
| Fusion1 | now it seems im able to get into it | 21:53 |
| Fusion1 | i got dmesg | 21:53 |
| arrrghhh | you got dmesg...? | 21:54 |
| Fusion1 | there's a lotta stuff in there... is there a boot log of only the current boot ? | 21:54 |
| Fusion1 | or the other ones as well.. i dont know how that log works | 21:54 |
| arrrghhh | what are you talking about. | 21:54 |
| Fusion1 | i went into terminal emulator | 21:54 |
| Fusion1 | and typed dmesg | 21:54 |
| arrrghhh | wait | 21:54 |
| arrrghhh | so it booted? | 21:54 |
| Fusion1 | isnt that a kind of bootlog ? | 21:54 |
| Fusion1 | yeah, now it did | 21:54 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:54 |
| Fusion1 | only thing ive changed is plugged the power, all i can tell | 21:55 |
| Fusion1 | i know you laughed, but that's the only thing i did. | 21:55 |
| arrrghhh | well | 21:55 |
| arrrghhh | you could've told me. | 21:55 |
| Fusion1 | well i did | 21:55 |
| arrrghhh | I'm still setting up this bundle to see if it was an issue with the build. | 21:55 |
| arrrghhh | i had to pry the info out of you! | 21:55 |
| arrrghhh | oy ve. | 21:55 |
| Fusion1 | wheni typed it | 21:55 |
| Fusion1 | it just booted | 21:55 |
| Fusion1 | it's been rebooting about 8 times now | 21:55 |
| arrrghhh | ... | 21:56 |
| Fusion1 | i just managed to get it working by plugging the charger | 21:56 |
| Fusion1 | and it says up | 21:56 |
| Fusion1 | .. and yes, the battery is charged. | 21:56 |
| Fusion1 | i tried if i could get to dmesg and see if there was anything relevant, tought it would reboot | 21:56 |
| Fusion1 | but it didnt. | 21:56 |
| arrrghhh | so unplug it | 21:57 |
| arrrghhh | does it reboot? | 21:57 |
| touch3 | sorry afk, fusion1, how do you deal with android not supporting headphones without the force trick? | 21:57 |
| Fusion1 | it didnt, last 5 seconds | 21:57 |
| Fusion1 | touch3, i just dont use it | 21:57 |
| Fusion1 | for now. | 21:57 |
| Fusion1 | arrrghhh, doesnt reboot so far. | 21:57 |
| touch3 | what do you use android for? | 21:57 |
| Fusion1 | arrrghhh. is there any way i can check what was happening in the last crashes ? | 21:58 |
| Fusion1 | touch3, replacing winmo ! | 21:58 |
| touch3 | proof of concept or do you use it frequently besides testing stuff.? | 21:58 |
| wladston | touch3: i got started this week | 21:58 |
| arrrghhh | touch3, yea headsets don't work. | 21:58 |
| wladston | I'm just trying to code for it now | 21:58 |
| arrrghhh | Fusion1, nope. every reboot blows out the info. you'd need to use adb and grab the data when it reboots. not easy. | 21:58 |
| wladston | touch3: if the phone worked and it was stable I'd use it as my main phone | 21:58 |
| arrrghhh | touch3, i just test/use it for fun. it's not a winmo replacement, and probably never will be. | 21:59 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: really ? | 21:59 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: :( | 21:59 |
| touch3 | i see | 21:59 |
| Fusion1 | it is for me | 21:59 |
| arrrghhh | well | 21:59 |
| Fusion1 | i will keep using android on this phone | 21:59 |
| arrrghhh | it can replace winmo | 21:59 |
| arrrghhh | but not fully | 21:59 |
| Fusion1 | i hate winmo so much | 21:59 |
| arrrghhh | i do too | 21:59 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: why not fully ? | 21:59 |
| touch3 | if i head the headset working without the trick i would use it more | 21:59 |
| arrrghhh | but i need phone calls :P | 21:59 |
| wladston | i do too [3] | 21:59 |
| Fusion1 | phone call work fine here ? | 21:59 |
| touch3 | kinda pissed about winmo not really having the selection of apps | 22:00 |
| Fusion1 | is it because its a diff. model ? | 22:00 |
| arrrghhh | Fusion1, just wait. | 22:00 |
| Fusion1 | it will stop working ? | 22:00 |
| arrrghhh | touch3, bought the wrong phone then if that's your gripe. | 22:00 |
| arrrghhh | Fusion1, oh there's many many ways that the phone fails during a call. | 22:00 |
| arrrghhh | surprised you haven't experienced it yet. | 22:00 |
| Fusion1 | ah ! | 22:00 |
| Fusion1 | never had any issues no | 22:00 |
| arrrghhh | i've had phone calls fail in about 15 different ways. | 22:00 |
| Fusion1 | is it something the devs have a hold of, at least some part of it ? | 22:01 |
| arrrghhh | not really. | 22:01 |
| Fusion1 | nice :) | 22:02 |
| arrrghhh | i doubt it'll get addressed until the big issues are fixed. | 22:02 |
| arrrghhh | camera, framebuffer, etc. | 22:02 |
| Fusion1 | so what does it do | 22:02 |
| Fusion1 | you lose audio ? | 22:02 |
| Fusion1 | disconnects ? | 22:02 |
| Fusion1 | one way audio ? | 22:02 |
| arrrghhh | you want me to describe all 15 ways? | 22:02 |
| Fusion1 | all of these | 22:02 |
| stinebd | lies, framebuffer works great | 22:02 |
| Fusion1 | haha | 22:02 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, lol | 22:02 |
| stinebd | nevermind the 7 fps | 22:02 |
| arrrghhh | just ignore that? | 22:02 |
| Fusion1 | well once, someone called and i didnt have audio | 22:02 |
| arrrghhh | it's hard to haha | 22:02 |
| Fusion1 | but ONCE | 22:03 |
| wladston | framebuffer ? what is that ? | 22:03 |
| arrrghhh | Fusion1, oh no. it'll get much worse. | 22:03 |
| Fusion1 | even with latest builds ? | 22:03 |
| arrrghhh | how many calls have you made in android? | 22:03 |
| stinebd | how come every time we talk about something wladston asks what it is? | 22:03 |
| Fusion1 | maybe 40-50 | 22:03 |
| Fusion1 | maxc | 22:03 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, he's a curious guy. | 22:03 |
| arrrghhh | Fusion1, damn. i must have bad luck i guess. | 22:03 |
| stinebd | lmgtfy? | 22:03 |
| wladston | stinebd: I'm a curious guy | 22:03 |
| Fusion1 | stinebd, didnt notice i do the same since i got here ? | 22:03 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:03 |
| arrrghhh | that site is great. | 22:04 |
| Fusion1 | framebuffer is something about the 3d acceleration, isnt it | 22:04 |
| stinebd | heh, no | 22:04 |
| arrrghhh | not really. | 22:04 |
| Fusion1 | ah | 22:04 |
| Fusion1 | okay. | 22:04 |
| wladston | that's two who don't know what that is already | 22:04 |
| wladston | :D | 22:04 |
| arrrghhh | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Framebuffer | 22:04 |
| stinebd | it's a pretty basic concept in computing | 22:04 |
| wladston | ahn, right | 22:05 |
| arrrghhh | 1st thing that popped up on googling 'framebuffer' :P | 22:05 |
| Fusion1 | at least i know it was about graphis in a way | 22:05 |
| Fusion1 | graphiCs | 22:05 |
| touch3 | anyone believe the touch pro 2 fm radio on cdma phones might be working? | 22:05 |
| wladston | well, I knew buffer, and frame, but I never studied specific hardware | 22:05 |
| stinebd | touch3: i personally think it's a november fools joke | 22:05 |
| stinebd | they couldn't wait for april apparently | 22:06 |
| arrrghhh | the gpu can help take load off of the cpu in relation to the framebuffer. | 22:06 |
| touch3 | lol | 22:06 |
| arrrghhh | fm radio? | 22:06 |
| touch3 | to obvious in april | 22:06 |
| arrrghhh | i don't think my rhod400 has an fm radio. | 22:06 |
| touch3 | the gsm versions have an fm radio | 22:06 |
| arrrghhh | i thought you said you have a rhod400... | 22:06 |
| wladston | mine has one | 22:06 |
| touch3 | apparently the cdma ones have the chip, but it was disabled | 22:06 |
| arrrghhh | huh | 22:06 |
| arrrghhh | weird. | 22:06 |
| touch3 | yeah rhod400 is a tp2 | 22:06 |
| arrrghhh | i know, but that means it's cdma | 22:06 |
| wladston | but you need a headset to use it | 22:06 |
| arrrghhh | wladston, no speakerphone radio goodness? | 22:07 |
| wladston | yeah, it works, as long as the headset is also connected | 22:07 |
| wladston | it serves as the antenna | 22:07 |
| touch3 | only on the gsm ones | 22:07 |
| arrrghhh | meh | 22:07 |
| wladston | the other ones got an fm radio antenna ? that is sweet | 22:07 |
| arrrghhh | that's what subsonic is for. | 22:07 |
| arrrghhh | wladston, no cdma apparently has the chip but it's not active. | 22:07 |
| wladston | ahn, right | 22:08 |
| Fusion1 | not active as in a hardware switch | 22:08 |
| touch3 | the topic has been dead for awhile now | 22:08 |
| Fusion1 | or just, not software enabled in winmo | 22:08 |
| arrrghhh | oh man my work opened up the proxy so now i can stream mpd to my desk. freakin awesome. | 22:08 |
| touch3 | and some guy posted that he got it working on 10/30 | 22:08 |
| arrrghhh | touch3, what thread? | 22:08 |
| touch3 | arrrghhh, setup a ssh tunnel at home | 22:08 |
| arrrghhh | touch3, didn't work before. they didn't allow ssh out. | 22:09 |
| stinebd | wat! | 22:09 |
| arrrghhh | but now i can http stream music from mpd to my desk. | 22:09 |
| arrrghhh | freakin awesome. | 22:09 |
| touch3 | oh well | 22:09 |
| touch3 | at least they allowed that | 22:09 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, basically before if it wasn't piped thru the proxy, it wasn't getting now. | 22:09 |
| arrrghhh | s/now/out/ | 22:09 |
| touch3 | they probably opened it for someone else higher up | 22:09 |
| touch3 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746296&page=7 | 22:10 |
| stinebd | att used to do that with their medianet access points (vs pdanet which had full access) | 22:10 |
| arrrghhh | now, for whatever reason i can hit the web w/o a proxy. freakin awesome. | 22:10 |
| touch3 | down for maintenance | 22:10 |
| Fusion1 | he dmz'ed you | 22:11 |
| wladston | stinebd: the PRODUCT_LOCALES settings is set to hdpi # Use high-density artwork where available | 22:11 |
| wladston | stinebd: but the docs says that this is "A space-separated list of two-letter language code, two-letter country code pairs that describe several settings for the user, such as the UI language and time, date and currency formatting. The first locale listed in PRODUCT_LOCALES is is used if the locale has never been set before." | 22:11 |
| stinebd | sigh | 22:12 |
| stinebd | it works, what do you want? | 22:12 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:12 |
| wladston | well, make life easier for whoever is reading the code .... | 22:12 |
| wladston | but if you don't want to change it for me it's ok | 22:13 |
| stinebd | why would i change it? | 22:13 |
| stinebd | you want us to go back to mdpi? | 22:13 |
| arrrghhh | no! just make him go back. | 22:13 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 22:13 |
| wladston | the samples they have on the google site for this settings include en_GB de_DE es_ES fr_CA .... | 22:13 |
| stinebd | and look in device/htc/passion-common | 22:14 |
| wladston | yeah, I'm remembering, I have looked | 22:14 |
| wladston | probably http://pdk.android.com/online-pdk/guide/build_new_device.html are wrong | 22:14 |
| wladston | it's not locale, it's screen density | 22:15 |
| arrrghhh | details. | 22:16 |
| stinebd | most of these idiosyncrasies you're complaining to me about aren't my fault :P | 22:16 |
| stinebd | i literally copied like everything from aosp upstream | 22:16 |
| arrrghhh | like totally everything. | 22:16 |
| stinebd | quiet, stop detracting from my hard work | 22:17 |
| stinebd | also some of it i was drunk for | 22:17 |
| wladston | I'm not complaining, I'm just really trying to follow your steps and understand what you did | 22:17 |
| stinebd | if i don't understand it, i doubt you will | 22:17 |
| wladston | LOL | 22:17 |
| wladston | nice to read that :) | 22:18 |
| wladston | well, there is one thing - you know how to fix the bugs, I don't | 22:18 |
| stinebd | i don't really know all that much honestly. i just change stuff and sometimes things work out | 22:18 |
| wladston | that is probably because you understand that defines a lot better than I | 22:18 |
| wladston | but I don't even know what to change | 22:19 |
| wladston | I was changing a gps-related file that wasn't even part of the build | 22:19 |
| wladston | :D | 22:19 |
| wladston | I have no idea how the camera and bluetooth can be fixed | 22:20 |
| stinebd | me too | 22:21 |
| wladston | and I wanted to try to fix the ril | 22:22 |
| arrrghhh | good luck on the ril dude. seriously. | 22:27 |
| wladston | if we have the source .... | 22:27 |
| wladston | hehe, remembered of that joke "" I tried to change the world, but I couldn't find the source code ..." | 22:29 |
| wladston | but I'm starting to realize that if I really want an android phone I'll have to pay the USD850 :( | 22:32 |
| stinebd | not so easy, is it? | 22:33 |
| wladston | nope | 22:34 |
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| wladston | finished to make a list for everything touched by all product definition files! | 22:38 |
| wladston | http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Getting_started_XDAndroid_development#Product_Definition_Files | 22:38 |
| wladston | now I know that the gps stuff is probly at device/common/gps/gps_us_supl.mk or at some vendor/ side include | 22:39 |
| stinebd | lol | 22:39 |
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| arrrghhh | so how little documentation do we have on the RIL? | 22:43 |
| stinebd | somewhere between zero and none | 22:43 |
| arrrghhh | wladston, i'm not even sure if the RIL is truly the issue, it just seems like not a lot of attention has been given to it. | 22:44 |
| arrrghhh | other than basic commands | 22:44 |
| arrrghhh | AT+ | 22:44 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 22:44 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, what is between zeo and none? | 22:44 |
| wladston | brb | 22:44 |
| arrrghhh | s/zeo/zero/ | 22:44 |
| arrrghhh | damn your bot doesn't fix my crap :P | 22:44 |
| stinebd | phh whipped it up based on dzo's modifications (for vogue) of the reference ril, using traces of winmo rilphone calls | 22:44 |
| arrrghhh | magic. | 22:45 |
| arrrghhh | buncha peoples sayin the newest crap doesn't boot | 22:49 |
| arrrghhh | and a buncha others saying it's fine. ugh. | 22:49 |
| arrrghhh | and as usual, i can't seem to recreate it. | 22:50 |
| arrrghhh | oh stinebd there is something i wanted to ask | 22:50 |
| arrrghhh | dialer in landscape mode? | 22:50 |
| arrrghhh | doesn't seem to workie. not sure if it's the status quo or not. | 22:50 |
| arrrghhh | i'm almost always in portrait mode when in a call tho :P | 22:51 |
| stinebd | who uses dialer in landscape? | 22:51 |
| arrrghhh | speakerphone? | 22:53 |
| arrrghhh | takin notes | 22:53 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 22:53 |
| arrrghhh | i like feelin awkward when calling people. | 22:53 |
| arrrghhh | if i tilt the screen it's even harder | 22:54 |
| wladston | back | 22:55 |
| arrrghhh | wladston, don't you make calls in landscape mode? | 22:55 |
| arrrghhh | w/the screen tilted? | 22:55 |
| arrrghhh | it's quite an experience. | 22:56 |
| wladston | hehe yeah | 22:56 |
| wladston | when on speaker | 22:56 |
| arrrghhh | i'm sure if i was on gsm it'd be more important. | 22:56 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, i guess what i'm asking in all my snarkiness is do native android devices have a landscape dial screen or...? | 22:57 |
| stinebd | well my n1 doesn't | 22:58 |
| arrrghhh | yes but your n1 doesn't have a kbd | 22:58 |
| arrrghhh | -_- | 22:58 |
| stinebd | ok | 22:58 |
| arrrghhh | although doesn't it rotate with accelerometer...? i guess not when in a call. | 22:58 |
| stinebd | buy me a native android device with a keyboard and i'll tell you | 22:58 |
| arrrghhh | me first. | 22:59 |
| arrrghhh | i'll buy me a native android device first. | 22:59 |
| stinebd | it doesn't rotate in call either | 22:59 |
| arrrghhh | hm | 22:59 |
| stinebd | i'm not sure why you'd expect it to | 22:59 |
| stinebd | you can exit the dialer and then do whatever you want to in landscape | 23:00 |
| arrrghhh | indeed. | 23:00 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps winmo is broken then | 23:00 |
| stinebd | what does winmo have to do with it? | 23:00 |
| arrrghhh | just feels weird to have the kbd out and the screen being rotated 90 deg | 23:00 |
| arrrghhh | it's the status quo for these devices...? what else would it have to do? | 23:01 |
| arrrghhh | you silly and padantic man. | 23:01 |
| arrrghhh | er | 23:02 |
| arrrghhh | pedantic. | 23:02 |
| arrrghhh | omg the voice commands are awesome. | 23:03 |
| arrrghhh | i even try throwing it off with a bad accent. | 23:03 |
| arrrghhh | maybe my accents are that bad, but it still works lol | 23:03 |
| wladston | ?? voice commands are woking ?!?!? | 23:04 |
| arrrghhh | wistilt2 magic. | 23:05 |
| arrrghhh | they worked | 23:05 |
| arrrghhh | you just had to jump thru hoops to activate the mic | 23:05 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: wow! when ? | 23:05 |
| arrrghhh | now the mic works | 23:05 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: how ???? | 23:05 |
| arrrghhh | i'm testing a kernel he gave me this morning :P | 23:05 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: tell me!! | 23:05 |
| wladston | :D | 23:05 |
| arrrghhh | i think if you make a call first | 23:05 |
| * wladston wants!!!!! | 23:05 | |
| arrrghhh | then use voice commands | 23:05 |
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| arrrghhh | wladston, hrm we probably haven't tested a rhod100 | 23:11 |
| arrrghhh | 1 se | 23:11 |
| arrrghhh | 1 sec* | 23:11 |
| wladston | cool | 23:11 |
| wladston | gimme the kernel!!! | 23:11 |
| arrrghhh | you simmer down now | 23:11 |
| wladston | voice commands will just work after making a call and that's it, no more catches ? | 23:12 |
| arrrghhh | i believe so yes | 23:13 |
| arrrghhh | but you have to make a call every time | 23:13 |
| arrrghhh | or something like that | 23:13 |
| arrrghhh | doesn't matter, wistilt seems to have fixed it. | 23:13 |
| wladston | fixed the call issue ? | 23:13 |
| arrrghhh | hrm 1 sec on that link wladston | 23:13 |
| wladston | cool | 23:14 |
| wladston | btw guys, a great project is android-x86 | 23:14 |
| arrrghhh | k | 23:14 |
| arrrghhh | hit the link | 23:14 |
| arrrghhh | fixed the voice search etc | 23:14 |
| arrrghhh | so mic is properly initialized now | 23:15 |
| * wladston resets to winmo | 23:15 | |
| arrrghhh | i believe he's working on speakerphone mic as well. i should test... | 23:15 |
| wladston | got the zimage | 23:15 |
| wladston | wow | 23:15 |
| arrrghhh | guten | 23:15 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: speakerphone mic worked for me | 23:15 |
| wladston | on random ocasions | 23:15 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 23:15 |
| arrrghhh | don't think it ever did for moi | 23:16 |
| arrrghhh | unless i did the make a call in winmo first trick | 23:16 |
| wladston | if we have a 100% working thing, including flashing to ROM, except for RIL I'm sure someone will end up fixing it. | 23:16 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: so I just have to try the zimage, nothing more | 23:17 |
| wladston | ok | 23:17 |
| arrrghhh | in call speakerphone mic is not functioal | 23:17 |
| arrrghhh | i tihink he's working on it | 23:17 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 23:17 |
| arrrghhh | wifi won't work | 23:17 |
| arrrghhh | food time | 23:17 |
| arrrghhh | bbl | 23:17 |
| wladston | ok ok | 23:18 |
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| wladston | WOA | 23:38 |
| wladston | voice recognition is just amazing | 23:38 |
| wladston | works perfectly | 23:38 |
| wladston | in portuguese!!! | 23:38 |
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| bob_ | hello there | 23:49 |
| bob_ | neone available? | 23:50 |
| bob_ | need some help | 23:52 |
| wladston | \topic | 23:55 |
| bob_ | ahh | 23:55 |
| bob_ | tryin to install android cab on htc touch hd | 23:56 |
| wladston | the cab never worked for me .... | 23:56 |
| wladston | I suggest using the rar | 23:56 |
| bob_ | have u got a link for the latest one? | 23:57 |
| bob_ | the links i have arent clear | 23:57 |
| bob_ | the zip listed as latest 2.2.1 frxo2 has one a single file in it: system.ext2 ?? | 23:59 |
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