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| codster1111 | can anyone teach me how to do challenge lobby | 06:33 | 
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| xdandroid | thivyan changed the Status on bug 37 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. | 11:14 | 
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=37 critical, Highest, ---, developers, RESOLVED FIXED, Data broken after 20101011_000034 | 11:14 | 
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| xdandroid | thivyan changed the Status on bug 5 from NEW to RESOLVED FIXED. | 11:19 | 
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5 blocker, Highest, ---, developers, RESOLVED FIXED, Microphone not working during incoming call. | 11:19 | 
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| arrrghhh | wladston, the modules file is for stuff like wifi | 15:46 | 
| wladston | arrrghhh: why aren't those integrated into the kernel ? | 15:46 | 
| arrrghhh | not sure what else it breaks, probably gps & bt too... | 15:46 | 
| arrrghhh | probably because they're not gpl? | 15:46 | 
| arrrghhh | not sure | 15:46 | 
| wladston | hummm | 15:46 | 
| wladston | right | 15:46 | 
| arrrghhh | add-on modules | 15:46 | 
| arrrghhh | like what ubuntu does with nvidia drivers | 15:46 | 
| wladston | so the kernel extracts and links these modules on boot time ? | 15:47 | 
| arrrghhh | i think the rootfs file does that work, but i'm not sure. | 15:47 | 
| arrrghhh | phh, you around? | 15:47 | 
| phh | yes | 15:47 | 
| wladston | would be nice to know that to make my "Starting to develop on Android" page correct | 15:47 | 
| arrrghhh | are my assumptions about the modules file correct? | 15:47 | 
| arrrghhh | would be nice to have a proper breakdown of all the files. | 15:49 | 
| arrrghhh | i've seen several very non-technical breakdowns :P | 15:49 | 
| phh | hum why | 15:49 | 
| phh | 1.that's how android's libhardware_legacy works | 15:49 | 
| phh | you start wifi chip by loading the module | 15:49 | 
| phh | 2.tiwlan would be a pain in the ass to integrate in the kernel | 15:49 | 
| arrrghhh | is modules just for wifi then? | 15:50 | 
| wladston | phh: so these kernel modules are NOT loaded by the kernel at boot time - they are "invoked" by the libhardware_legacy on userland ? | 15:50 | 
| phh | wladston: for wifi yes | 15:51 | 
| phh | we've got some other modules | 15:51 | 
| phh | like netfilter | 15:51 | 
| phh | that is needed by only few people | 15:51 | 
| wladston | phh: what about all the others ? | 15:51 | 
| phh | what are the others ? | 15:51 | 
| wladston | there are a bunch of files on a modules.tar.gz file that came with the kernel | 15:51 | 
| phh | yeah I'm asking you what are the others :p | 15:52 | 
| wladston | bcm4329.ko nf_conntrack_irc.ko tunnel4.ko | 15:52 | 
| wladston | block2mtd.ko nf_conntrack.ko wl1251.ko | 15:52 | 
| wladston | cfg80211.ko nf_conntrack_netlink.ko wl1251_sdio.ko | 15:52 | 
| wladston | ip_queue.ko nf_conntrack_pptp.ko wlan.ko | 15:52 | 
| wladston | iptable_filter.ko nf_conntrack_proto_gre.ko xfrm6_mode_beet.ko | 15:52 | 
| wladston | iptable_nat.ko nf_conntrack_sip.ko xfrm6_mode_transport.ko | 15:52 | 
| wladston | and others | 15:52 | 
| wladston | ipv6.ko- wow | 15:52 | 
| phh | well I've said pretty much everything | 15:52 | 
| phh | block2mtd needs a parameter on cmdline to be useful, so easier as a moduile | 15:53 | 
| wladston | "that is needed by only few people" | 15:53 | 
| wladston | "that is needed by only few people" - so If I remove all that stuff it won't make a difference to me ? | 15:53 | 
| phh | yes | 15:54 | 
| phh | just don't remove wifi modules. | 15:54 | 
| wladston | xt_tcpudp.ko - that one looks important | 15:54 | 
| wladston | riiight | 15:54 | 
| wladston | phh: where did those modules came from ? | 15:54 | 
| phh | kernel sources | 15:54 | 
| phh | wladston: again | 15:54 | 
| phh | that's netfilter module | 15:54 | 
| phh | just try it ... | 15:55 | 
| wladston | nice :) | 15:56 | 
| wladston | thanks a lot, phh! | 15:56 | 
| wladston | stinebd: are you there ? I wanted permission to create a new page on the wiki, called [[Familiarizing with Xdandroid development]] | 16:06 | 
| wladston | it's not ready, so I won't link it anywhere yet | 16:06 | 
| wladston | but would be nice to have online so others could evaluate/help my work | 16:06 | 
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| wladston | allright, enuf android for today | 17:05 | 
| wladston | interesting is that when you actually write things up it becomes clearer | 17:05 | 
| wladston | my guide is rocking here | 17:05 | 
| wladston | :) | 17:05 | 
| wladston | see you guys tomorrow | 17:05 | 
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| xdandroid | New kernel available (20101031_215910) at http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20101031_215910-package.tar.bz2 | 17:07 | 
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| Mistro | Any ideas on when wladston will post his guide? :) | 17:41 | 
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| arrrghhh | when he's done with it? | 17:49 | 
| arrrghhh | i think most of the info he's posting is already available, just in noncontiguous locations. | 17:50 | 
| Mistro | ah ok | 17:50 | 
| Mistro | sounds good | 17:50 | 
| arrrghhh | hard to keep info up to date as well | 17:50 | 
| Mistro | very true | 17:50 | 
| Mistro | so i was following the guide to "Getting Started with XDAndroid" on building and stuff | 17:51 | 
| Mistro | But i'm running into this hurdle... | 17:51 | 
| Mistro | make: *** No rule to make target `out/target/product/generic/obj/lib/librpc.so', needed by `out/target/product/generic/obj/SHARED_LIBRARIES/libhardware_legacy_intermediates/LINKED/libhardware_legacy.so' | 17:52 | 
| Mistro | I also noticed that even though i configured the build for TARGET_PRODUCT := full_msm | 17:53 | 
| Mistro | the header still shows TARGET_PRODUCT=generic when the build starts | 17:53 | 
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| Mistro1 | And unfortunately now I'm stumped :( I checked to make sure all libraries needed are present on the build machine and stuff too | 17:55 | 
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