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| coolbtk | I am having an issue with getting XDANDROID running on my Fuze. I have placed all the files in the andboot folder on my SD card (including STARTUP.TXT from the FUZE folder) and it is getting stuck at the boot animation screen. This is my second attempt. The first time it sat at this screen for 30 minutes before I soft reset, deleted all files, re-copied them, and tried again. I've now been waiting 15 minutes at this screen. I am | 00:31 |
| coolbtk | does anyone have any suggestions? | 00:31 |
| arrrghhh | coolbtk, ok this sounds stupid | 00:32 |
| arrrghhh | but instead of deleting everything | 00:32 |
| arrrghhh | just delete the data.img file | 00:32 |
| arrrghhh | then reboot | 00:32 |
| coolbtk | ok. Believe me, it doesn't sound stupid. I've been working with computers for a long time... lol. I'll give that a shot. | 00:33 |
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| arrrghhh | haha | 00:35 |
| arrrghhh | yea, there's an issue with the system images not being properly signed | 00:35 |
| arrrghhh | we're not really running the 'official' android if you catch my drift... | 00:35 |
| wladston | lol | 00:36 |
| wladston | that happened to me once | 00:36 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 00:36 |
| wladston | just reset and try again | 00:36 |
| arrrghhh | good ole bootloop | 00:36 |
| arrrghhh | sometimes that works too | 00:36 |
| arrrghhh | but with a fresh build, there's nothing in your data.img | 00:36 |
| coolbtk | I've deleted data.img and it is currently creating a new one. | 00:36 |
| arrrghhh | coolbtk, this is basically where all your settings and installed apps go. | 00:37 |
| arrrghhh | yea it'll take a little while to boot | 00:37 |
| arrrghhh | but 10+ mins, you're in a bootloop. | 00:37 |
| coolbtk | 10+ starting from when the animation starts, right? | 00:38 |
| wladston | cooool | 00:38 |
| wladston | found a generate-rootfs.sh!!! | 00:38 |
| arrrghhh | i'd say 10+ from when you click haret | 00:38 |
| wladston | AND a readme!! | 00:38 |
| wladston | :D | 00:38 |
| coolbtk | Ok. | 00:38 |
| arrrghhh | haha there you go | 00:38 |
| arrrghhh | you'll get different experiences on speed on one boot to another. it's very odd. | 00:39 |
| wladston | happens to me too | 00:39 |
| wladston | sometimes it's UBER slow | 00:39 |
| arrrghhh | i'm thinking background processes, but damn. sometimes it seems way speedy, other times it just drags. | 00:39 |
| wladston | i remove the overclock - gets better | 00:39 |
| arrrghhh | really? | 00:40 |
| arrrghhh | more consistent w/o oc | 00:40 |
| arrrghhh | makes sense :P | 00:40 |
| arrrghhh | just stupid of htc. putting such old proc & ram specs on the tp2. | 00:40 |
| coolbtk | After the first successful boot, does data.img have to be deleted sometimes, or is it generally pretty stable once it works the first time? | 00:40 |
| arrrghhh | same as your fuze | 00:40 |
| arrrghhh | coolbtk, doesn't happen every time | 00:40 |
| arrrghhh | although i think it's more frequent on the raph than it is on rhod | 00:40 |
| wladston | I'm wondering if I should go ahead and write a rootfs page for the wiki | 00:41 |
| wladston | I'll write one locally | 00:41 |
| wladston | I don't know what data.img is yet | 00:41 |
| arrrghhh | it's generated on first boot | 00:42 |
| arrrghhh | by the rootfs | 00:42 |
| arrrghhh | and it stores basically all the stuff that the user changes. apps installed, icon locations, widgets, etc etc | 00:42 |
| wladston | ?!?! wow | 00:42 |
| arrrghhh | so that's why ppl don't like blasting it out :P | 00:42 |
| wladston | ahn | 00:42 |
| wladston | so it's like the local filesystem | 00:43 |
| arrrghhh | yessir | 00:43 |
| arrrghhh | some ppl have been needing bigger than 256mb | 00:43 |
| arrrghhh | and are wondering why it's 256mb. but they forget, some ppl still have 512mb cards :P | 00:43 |
| wladston | there is a installer script on it that does it | 00:44 |
| coolbtk | I'm unfortunately trying this on a 1 gig card. My son decided that my 8 gig micro sd wanted to hang out at the bottom of a water bottle. | 00:45 |
| wladston | lol | 00:45 |
| coolbtk | I found it 3 days later. | 00:45 |
| wladston | aaaauuuch | 00:45 |
| wladston | no chance | 00:45 |
| wladston | oxidation | 00:45 |
| coolbtk | nope. none at all. I dried it out, but the oxidation killed it. | 00:45 |
| arrrghhh | dang... | 00:46 |
| wladston | poor data | 00:46 |
| arrrghhh | that's unfortunate. | 00:46 |
| arrrghhh | all those 1's and 0's. lost. :P | 00:46 |
| wladston | will try a simple keymap change, see if that works | 00:46 |
| coolbtk | yeah. The really sad part was that I had gotten it out to use it for the first time. I bought it several years ago when the Touch Cruise first came out | 00:46 |
| coolbtk | and when I put it into my Touch Cruise, the memory card reader broke. | 00:47 |
| coolbtk | so I never used the card | 00:47 |
| arrrghhh | aw. | 00:48 |
| arrrghhh | so no lost data lol | 00:48 |
| coolbtk | well, looks like I'm still stuck in a boot loop. Does the card need to be empty other than the android files? | 00:49 |
| wladston | stinebd: why are there .bin and also .kl files for keyboard ? This suggests that I somehow have to "compile" the .kl files into the bin files .... | 00:49 |
| wladston | how is that done ? | 00:49 |
| arrrghhh | i think they're placed with the bins | 00:50 |
| arrrghhh | not sure tho | 00:50 |
| arrrghhh | coolbtk, oh no. did you put it in a folder? you are getting the boot animation? | 00:50 |
| arrrghhh | this time just try rebooting. don't touch anything, just soft reset & hit haret again. | 00:50 |
| arrrghhh | perhaps you should've just left your data.img alone :S | 00:50 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: yeah, they are placed with the bins ... but do I need to worry about the bins ? | 00:50 |
| arrrghhh | not sure. | 00:51 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: also, how can I find the keycode for the back mute button ? | 00:51 |
| arrrghhh | i think you have to use haretconsole | 00:51 |
| coolbtk | Yes, I put all the android files inside the andboot folder. Other files on the card are in another folder. I was stuck on the boot animation still. Will try a reboot and start it without deleting data.img | 00:52 |
| arrrghhh | it's done thru winmo... not sure how the process works. | 00:52 |
| arrrghhh | coolbtk, yea you can technically put android in any folder, you just need to modify the rel_path= value in the cmdline in the startup.txt | 00:52 |
| arrrghhh | i have mine 2 folders deep lol | 00:53 |
| arrrghhh | & i have a few builds. | 00:53 |
| arrrghhh | i had like 10 at one point, but i cleaned it up... down to 2 now :P | 00:53 |
| coolbtk | Yeah. Linux isn't usually very picky about where it is and what else is around, as long as you tell it where it is. | 00:54 |
| arrrghhh | indeed | 00:54 |
| coolbtk | I've never used Android before though, so I wasn't sure. | 00:54 |
| wladston | stinebd: there are maps for the PTT button (that aren't present on every rhod) but no maps for the rear mute (because they aren't present on every rhod). To follow the ideals, maybe we should also remove the mapping for the PTT button too, no ? | 00:54 |
| arrrghhh | yea, and a lot of these things don't apply to an OEM android phone | 00:54 |
| arrrghhh | i think it'd be better to add the keymap for the mute instead of remove the ptt one... ;) | 00:55 |
| coolbtk | Too bad I can't just run DSL or something on this thing. All I want is wifi and audio. lol | 00:55 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 00:55 |
| arrrghhh | run 1.6 | 00:55 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: no luck on finding out about the haret console | 00:55 |
| arrrghhh | one of the cyanogen ones | 00:55 |
| wladston | :) | 00:55 |
| coolbtk | success! | 00:55 |
| arrrghhh | they're a wee bit trickier | 00:55 |
| arrrghhh | wladston, yea that was just a stab | 00:56 |
| wladston | coolbtk: \o/ | 00:56 |
| arrrghhh | coolbtk, awesome! | 00:56 |
| arrrghhh | now i go to sleep :D | 00:56 |
| arrrghhh | have a good one guys | 00:56 |
| wladston | WOW | 00:56 |
| wladston | that's exactly what I have to do as well | 00:57 |
| wladston | :) | 00:57 |
| wladston | thanks .... | 00:57 |
| wladston | and good night! | 00:57 |
| arrrghhh | cya | 00:57 |
| coolbtk | goodnight arrrghhh. Thanks for your help! | 00:57 |
| coolbtk | and goodnight wladston as well. | 00:57 |
| wladston | coolbtk: I'm still going to hang for a while | 00:57 |
| wladston | I HAVE to try that build :) | 00:58 |
| coolbtk | ah. alright. | 00:58 |
| coolbtk | I should sleep soon as well. Have to be up in 7 hours, assuming my kids sleep that long. | 00:58 |
| coolbtk | But, I want to get this set up... it's a horrible dilemma. | 00:59 |
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| wladston | aught | 01:04 |
| wladston | same here .... | 01:04 |
| wladston | and I know I'll regret tomorrow | 01:04 |
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| coolbtk | well that's weird... Android just rebooted itself... | 01:10 |
| wladston | hehe | 01:10 |
| wladston | happens here too | 01:10 |
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| coolbtk | luckily the market auto-resumes downloads. lol | 01:11 |
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| wladston | :) | 01:14 |
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| wladston | finally - booting into my home-built rootfs | 01:47 |
| coolbtk | gratz | 01:47 |
| wladston | let see if it works ... | 01:48 |
| wladston | got the boot animation | 01:48 |
| wladston | :) it will work | 01:48 |
| wladston | now I'm wondering if the keys will change, or I'll have to find out about the .bin keyboard files | 01:48 |
| wladston | it didn't work :( | 01:50 |
| wladston | weird thing is that the .bin files doesn't change on the commit | 01:51 |
| wladston | so maybe I missed something | 01:52 |
| coolbtk | weird. I wish I knew more about it so I could give some advice... | 01:52 |
| wladston | I wish I knew more too | 01:53 |
| wladston | DoH | 01:53 |
| wladston | my bad ... | 01:53 |
| wladston | going to make it again | 01:53 |
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| coolbtk | I hate those "Doh" moments... | 01:58 |
| coolbtk | Like when you spend 7 hours looking for a missing semicolon. | 01:58 |
| wladston | me too ... specially when it takes long minutes to shutdown android, boot windows, and then boot android | 01:58 |
| wladston | auch | 01:58 |
| wladston | don't remember me of those | 01:59 |
| wladston | :) | 01:59 |
| coolbtk | :D | 01:59 |
| wladston | coolbtk: the modified rootfs resulted in an unstable boot | 02:07 |
| wladston | with is straaaaaange | 02:07 |
| wladston | will give it another go | 02:09 |
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| coolbtk | hooray! I think I finally have what I've been trying to get all along! | 02:12 |
| wladston | with is ? | 02:12 |
| coolbtk | I don't have cell service on this phone, just using WIFI, SIP, and Google Voice. | 02:12 |
| wladston | SIP == ? | 02:12 |
| coolbtk | SIP is a VOIP protocol | 02:13 |
| wladston | oh, I wish I lived in usa to get a google voice too | 02:13 |
| wladston | OH | 02:13 |
| wladston | remembered | 02:13 |
| coolbtk | basically, I can make or receive calls and send and receive SMS anywhere that I have WIFI access | 02:13 |
| wladston | cool | 02:14 |
| wladston | WOHOO | 02:16 |
| wladston | it worked!!! | 02:16 |
| coolbtk | congrats! | 02:16 |
| wladston | but the device is UBER slow | 02:17 |
| wladston | the key map os the same | 02:17 |
| wladston | well, going fine ajust this keymap to see if I can get the speed back | 02:18 |
| coolbtk | why are you remapping the keys? | 02:22 |
| wladston | because I want to use the super cool app switcher | 02:22 |
| wladston | see it : | 02:23 |
| coolbtk | ah. is that a different one than the one that comes up when you hold the power button? | 02:23 |
| wladston | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s92BLUj6r0 | 02:23 |
| wladston | yeah | 02:23 |
| wladston | it lets you close running applications | 02:23 |
| wladston | and switch between the running ones | 02:23 |
| wladston | I can't leave windows mobile without being able to do that | 02:23 |
| coolbtk | ah. cool | 02:23 |
| wladston | :) | 02:23 |
| wladston | I'm thinking about copying the EVO keymap | 02:24 |
| wladston | home, menu, back, and search, instead of call, menu, back, end | 02:24 |
| wladston | I can reach the call with the end + softbutton | 02:25 |
| wladston | well, since I only need the home I think I'll keep it as it is | 02:25 |
| coolbtk | cool | 02:25 |
| wladston | except for the added home | 02:25 |
| coolbtk | this app looks pretty sweet | 02:26 |
| wladston | isn't it ? | 02:26 |
| wladston | that evo is SUPER fast too | 02:28 |
| coolbtk | Yeah. I wish I could afford one. | 02:31 |
| coolbtk | This Fuze was given to me for free. | 02:31 |
| wladston | wow | 02:31 |
| wladston | man .. you live in usa .... that's 300 bucks on ebay!! | 02:31 |
| wladston | for me, it's no less than 1050 bucks | 02:32 |
| coolbtk | yeah. It was given to him for free as well. He used it for about a week and then went back to his Blackberry. | 02:32 |
| wladston | that is, 1800 brazilian reais | 02:32 |
| coolbtk | Why he went back to his Blackberry, I will never know. | 02:32 |
| wladston | indeed | 02:32 |
| wladston | final boot before bed (hopefully) | 02:34 |
| coolbtk | crap. How do I go about installing programs that aren't available on the market? I can't download it because it says I need an SD card... | 02:35 |
| wladston | ?!?! | 02:37 |
| wladston | you do have an sd card, right ? | 02:37 |
| wladston | that issue is already fixed on my build | 02:38 |
| wladston | a guy posted a fix some time ago | 02:38 |
| coolbtk | hmmm... I downloaded 2.2 from xda-developers. maybe that's my problem... | 02:38 |
| wladston | arght | 02:39 |
| coolbtk | so... I apparently need to start over... :/ | 02:40 |
| wladston | no, you can just apply the fix | 02:41 |
| coolbtk | oh. I have no idea how to do that. | 02:41 |
| coolbtk | can I just copy the files from the new archive over the existing files on my memory card? | 02:42 |
| wladston | where did you get the bin from ? | 02:42 |
| wladston | yeah | 02:42 |
| wladston | don't delete your user image | 02:42 |
| wladston | and your settings will (should at least) be saved | 02:42 |
| coolbtk | ok. The version I downloaded was XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.FRX01.17.9.10.UPDATE_PACKAGE from the xda-developers thread. I'm currently downloading XDAndroid 2.2.1 Build FRX02 from xdandroid.com | 02:43 |
| wladston | yeah | 02:43 |
| wladston | that's the one I use | 02:43 |
| wladston | it has auto-update on it | 02:43 |
| wladston | that is the same build that I have I think | 02:43 |
| coolbtk | wait... what I downloaded is just a .ext2 file. | 02:44 |
| wladston | I need a file explorer app | 02:44 |
| wladston | what's the name of your device ? | 02:44 |
| wladston | rhodium ? topaz ? | 02:44 |
| coolbtk | Raphael | 02:45 |
| coolbtk | oh, I just need to download the newest zimage, rootfs, and initrd updates. I see those now. | 02:46 |
| wladston | this one | 02:46 |
| wladston | http://htcandroid.xland.cz/system-FRX02.ext2.zip | 02:47 |
| wladston | should be the last | 02:47 |
| wladston | just extract it and replace | 02:47 |
| wladston | wow - now I love my phone back :D | 02:47 |
| coolbtk | alright. | 02:48 |
| coolbtk | Isn't it satisying when you customize the crap out of your phone and finally get it where you want it? | 02:48 |
| wladston | yeah | 02:49 |
| wladston | well, but I did nothing | 02:49 |
| wladston | the guys at xdadevs made this thing | 02:49 |
| wladston | I hope I can contribute with something | 02:50 |
| wladston | like the camera | 02:50 |
| wladston | or the zoombar keymaps | 02:50 |
| coolbtk | i'm confused. What do I do with this ext2 file? | 02:52 |
| wladston | replace it | 02:52 |
| wladston | with the one that is on andboot | 02:52 |
| coolbtk | OH! | 02:52 |
| coolbtk | wow. I feel slow. lol | 02:52 |
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| wladston | amazing | 02:59 |
| wladston | this phone values 3x more for me now | 02:59 |
| wladston | I hope to pay this value back in double working for the community :) | 03:00 |
| coolbtk | cool | 03:01 |
| wladston | I'm amazed with android alarm clock | 03:01 |
| wladston | it doesn't give up on you | 03:01 |
| wladston | it's going for 2 minutes already | 03:02 |
| wladston | :) | 03:02 |
| coolbtk | lol | 03:02 |
| wladston | winmo plays for 30 seconds, then you are out | 03:02 |
| coolbtk | yeah. windows mobile alerts need to be seriously redone | 03:02 |
| coolbtk | i hate that text messages sounds play until they are over, regardless of what you do | 03:02 |
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| coolbtk | so if you want a longer sound to make sure you hear it when it's in your pocket, you have to listen to the whole thing every time you get a text. | 03:03 |
| wladston | another thing that isn't working is usb disk drive | 03:03 |
| wladston | I'm using short sound + vibration | 03:03 |
| wladston | works best for me | 03:04 |
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| coolbtk | yeah. that's what I ended up doing. I like to have a song play when I get a text though. Problem is, there's no way to stop it with winmo | 03:04 |
| coolbtk | arg... It still says "No SD card" | 03:05 |
| wladston | ... | 03:05 |
| wladston | weird | 03:05 |
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| wladston | you can always download the app at mobility, and then place it on your filesystem (via windows mobile) | 03:06 |
| coolbtk | is there a way to put the APK file directly on to my SD card from my computer or from WinMo so that I can install it in android? | 03:06 |
| wladston | yeah | 03:06 |
| coolbtk | lol | 03:06 |
| coolbtk | any particular place I have to put it? | 03:06 |
| wladston | I guess not | 03:06 |
| wladston | just put it there | 03:06 |
| wladston | and run it | 03:06 |
| coolbtk | ok | 03:06 |
| wladston | now I'll go recharge some of my brain | 03:10 |
| wladston | just some | 03:10 |
| wladston | cause tomorrow I'll be on "trashing mode" | 03:10 |
| coolbtk | I'll probably be around with more questions tomorrow. Have a good night. | 03:12 |
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| xdandroid | raul@hot.pl changed the Status on bug 42 from RESOLVED INVALID to REOPENED. | 10:26 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=42 normal, Normal, ---, developers, REOPENED, BLAZN, Haret, no service | 10:26 |
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| Aks | Is anyone else besides me having issues with GPS / Google Maps ? | 11:44 |
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| RE90 | hey has anyone here tried the android app inventor? | 12:19 |
| TheDeadCPU | Yes | 12:19 |
| RE90 | is xdandroid supposed to be able to work with it? | 12:20 |
| RE90 | I can't get it to connect in the blocks editor | 12:20 |
| TheDeadCPU | You need to have USB plugged in before starting Android | 12:21 |
| RE90 | ohhh ok i'll try that thanks | 12:21 |
| Aks | camro: your kernel works fine on the BLAZN build but not so on the stock FRX002 build. Not sure why, maybe I am not doing something right. | 12:40 |
| camro | no idea, please try to use the latest glemsom kernel | 12:41 |
| camro | and if you use a new FRX system, then you must remove the data img (maybe) | 12:41 |
| camro | (my phone is killed by too much testings..) | 12:42 |
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| Aks | heh e ... I did a clean build with reformatting. Sometimes its got no radio , sometimes in-call audio is missing but mostly no GPS lock n maps | 12:43 |
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| antovar | Hello, | 12:46 |
| antovar | I'm trying for the first time android in a Topaz | 12:46 |
| antovar | The file downloaded is a zip file with a file with extension ext2 inside it | 12:47 |
| hamagc | that is just an update file for the system | 12:47 |
| hamagc | you need the complete package first | 12:48 |
| hamagc | www.xdandroid.com will have links for yoiu | 12:48 |
| antovar | Thanks | 12:48 |
| antovar | I can't find it | 12:48 |
| antovar | In last releases there is only a link to this file | 12:49 |
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| wladston2 | Aks: also having problems with location | 12:51 |
| wladston2 | Aks: but today the phone managed to get my location via gps | 12:51 |
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| wladston2 | Aks: looks like only exact gps fix is working, and no cell tower location based service | 12:51 |
| antovar | Which is the last stable release, please? | 12:52 |
| RE90 | so what do i need to do exactly to get a detected USB connection from my computer? | 12:53 |
| wladston2 | RE90: what do you mean by detected ? You want to use libusb ? | 12:53 |
| RE90 | wldaston2: I want to connect to the app inventor | 12:54 |
| RE90 | wldadston2: app inventor wont recognize that anything is plugged in | 12:55 |
| hamagc | antovar: perhaps this link is better for you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=509493 | 12:55 |
| hamagc | i recommend reading the first 4 or 5 posts as all the info you need is in there | 12:56 |
| hamagc | this is the topaz specific thread so it should have everything you need | 12:56 |
| wladston2 | I never used app inventor ... | 12:57 |
| antovar | hamgc: thanks | 12:57 |
| wladston2 | I tried to buy an app on market, now it looks like it has stopped working | 12:58 |
| wladston2 | :/ | 12:58 |
| wladston2 | (altough the transsaction on my CC was completed) | 12:58 |
| Aks | wladston : thanks. I think I will move back to sept 28 BLAZN build as it worked consistently except in-call mic . | 12:58 |
| wladston2 | Aks: cell tower location worked on that build ?! | 12:59 |
| Aks | this is the first time I am using the stock build since there was no BLAZN build in parrallel to it this time | 12:59 |
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| Aks | yes | 12:59 |
| RE90 | how exactly do i go about connecting my phone to a computer via usb? | 12:59 |
| TheDeadCPU | google it. | 13:00 |
| RE90 | lol | 13:00 |
| RE90 | or IRC? | 13:00 |
| Aks | RE90 - get a cable | 13:00 |
| Aks | conenct to usb port on lappie | 13:00 |
| Aks | and then to your phone | 13:00 |
| Aks | :P | 13:00 |
| TheDeadCPU | yay | 13:00 |
| skyguy04 | sorry if this has been answered before, but should i delete my data file after replacing system.ext2 with the latest 10/23 rev.? | 13:00 |
| RE90 | TheDeadCPU: I started android with the usb plugged in but still no connection...any more tips? | 13:01 |
| Aks | I think you should delete your data .img file at every installation | 13:01 |
| TheDeadCPU | skyguy04, yes | 13:02 |
| skyguy04 | well things like rootfs i've been told don't require that. | 13:02 |
| skyguy04 | Ok, cool. Thanks | 13:02 |
| TheDeadCPU | Yup. Only system needs it | 13:02 |
| skyguy04 | done thanks! | 13:03 |
| skyguy04 | any good reviews on the new system? | 13:03 |
| skyguy04 | or bad. heh heh | 13:04 |
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| Aks | anyone heard news about Nexus 2 ? | 13:14 |
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| TheDeadCPU | Yes. | 13:16 |
| TheDeadCPU | Eww. | 13:16 |
| skyguy04 | hmm... does the startup utility break the new FRX2? | 13:18 |
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| skyguy04 | does anyone know what, if any, of the startup utility items work with FRX02? Ie. force CDMA, hardware 3d, north american dial, overclock? | 14:47 |
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| stinebd | well i've made some interesting progress with the updater | 14:59 |
| wladston | stinebd: with updater ? | 15:01 |
| wladston | the xdandroidstartup ? | 15:01 |
| stinebd | no | 15:01 |
| wladston | ? | 15:01 |
| stinebd | an over-the-air updater | 15:01 |
| wladston | what does it updates ? | 15:02 |
| stinebd | android | 15:02 |
| wladston | the main image / rootfs ? | 15:02 |
| wladston | cool | 15:02 |
| wladston | it won't need a reboot to update ?! | 15:03 |
| wladston | how is that ? | 15:03 |
| stinebd | it will. it won't need a full system image. | 15:03 |
| stinebd | incremental updates | 15:03 |
| wladston | interesting! | 15:03 |
| wladston | stinebd: was thinking about making a script to package a local rootfs | 15:04 |
| wladston | would it get pushed ? | 15:04 |
| stinebd | rootfs has a script in it | 15:04 |
| wladston | yeah - but you can only use it for git repos | 15:04 |
| wladston | I didn't manage to make the rootfs without altering the script | 15:05 |
| stinebd | do you know how git works? | 15:05 |
| wladston | I read a lot about it yesterday | 15:05 |
| wladston | so I know a little but | 15:05 |
| wladston | bit | 15:05 |
| wladston | I know that every dev has a clone of the whole repository | 15:05 |
| stinebd | http://gitorious.org/xdandroid-eclair/eclair-rootfs/blobs/master/scripts/README#line28 | 15:05 |
| stinebd | see the part starting at line 37 in particular | 15:06 |
| stinebd | if you have a local git clone, which you've made changes to (and committed those changes), you can copy the script somewhere, set REPO=~/your-rootfs-clone and run it | 15:06 |
| wladston | stinebd: I tried that yesterday, a lot, but I couldn't manage to fix the git errors that came up | 15:07 |
| wladston | stinebd: oh, the part "and committed those changes" is the problematic one for me | 15:08 |
| wladston | stinebd: I'll try it again here, commiting the changes | 15:08 |
| stinebd | http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/user-manual.html | 15:08 |
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| wladston | stinebd: should I create a new branch for my changes ? I think that it would be the case, but I'm unsure about what is a branch and the docs don't make it much clear for me | 15:14 |
| wladston | allright, created the commit for the master branch | 15:20 |
| wladston | copied the script to ../ | 15:21 |
| wladston | it doesn't run | 15:24 |
| wladston | "Initialized empty Git repository in /home/wladston/projects/xdandroid/tmp/eclair-rootfs/.git/" | 15:24 |
| wladston | but it's not empty, I even commited to it | 15:24 |
| arrrghhh | skyguy04: we don't support the startup utility. | 15:27 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: look up how to generate a /res/keys file for recovery | 15:27 |
| arrrghhh | do what? | 15:27 |
| stinebd | just do it | 15:28 |
| arrrghhh | that wasn't meant for wladston ? | 15:28 |
| stinebd | no | 15:29 |
| arrrghhh | i'm uh... not sure what you're getting at here. my google-fu is turning up results, but i'm not sure what i'm even looking for... or what you're referencing. | 15:30 |
| stinebd | !! | 15:30 |
| stinebd | i did it! | 15:30 |
| stinebd | maybe | 15:30 |
| arrrghhh | ...? | 15:30 |
| stinebd | thanks arrrghhh | 15:30 |
| arrrghhh | hm. now i'm really confused. | 15:30 |
| stinebd | yes, i definitely did | 15:30 |
| stinebd | awesome | 15:30 |
| arrrghhh | hm. | 15:31 |
| stinebd | i'm working on the ota updater | 15:31 |
| stinebd | getting very close | 15:31 |
| wladston | :) cool | 15:31 |
| wladston | I'm a bit 'lost' here | 15:31 |
| arrrghhh | well if your goal was to confuse the hell out of me with some random code crap, you win :P | 15:31 |
| stinebd | you better believe it was baby | 15:32 |
| stinebd | omg there it goes! | 15:33 |
| arrrghhh | blargh. stupid bugs. | 15:33 |
| wladston | hummmm I think I figured out the issue | 15:33 |
| wladston | the script is issuing git clone ./eclair-rootfs eclair-rootfs | 15:33 |
| wladston | it can't clone the project on itself | 15:34 |
| wladston | stinebd: why did you made the $REPO variable exacly equals to the $REPODIR ? | 15:34 |
| stinebd | uh? | 15:35 |
| wladston | the script clones my changed repo into another, right ? | 15:35 |
| stinebd | REPO can not be a relative path | 15:35 |
| wladston | oh | 15:35 |
| wladston | nice | 15:35 |
| * wladston fixes the path | 15:36 | |
| stinebd | hmm MTD:boot assertion failure | 15:36 |
| wladston | stinebd: fixed the path, but still got errors | 15:37 |
| wladston | the script is issuing | 15:37 |
| wladston | "git clone /home/wladston/projects/xdandroid/eclair-rootfs eclair-rootfs" | 15:37 |
| stinebd | yes... after cd "${TMPDIR}" | 15:38 |
| wladston | no, before .... | 15:38 |
| stinebd | no... | 15:38 |
| wladston | the git clone is the first thing it does | 15:38 |
| wladston | on line 21 | 15:38 |
| wladston | OPS | 15:38 |
| stinebd | http://gitorious.org/xdandroid-eclair/eclair-rootfs/blobs/master/scripts/generate-rootfs.sh#line17 | 15:38 |
| wladston | yeah | 15:38 |
| wladston | there are two cds, I missed this one :) | 15:38 |
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| Aks | hey arrrghhh ... howz it going ? u r l8 :P | 15:42 |
| wladston | figured that tmpdir also can't be relative | 15:42 |
| arrrghhh | late? | 15:45 |
| arrrghhh | camro: what'd you do to your phone? | 15:45 |
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| wladston | the errors of the script are getting nicer :) | 15:45 |
| arrrghhh | that good eh... | 15:45 |
| wladston | nice | 15:46 |
| wladston | rootfs generated | 15:46 |
| wladston | without changing the script | 15:46 |
| wladston | gonna put that new rootfs to the spin | 15:49 |
| wladston | :) | 15:49 |
| stinebd | i am so taking a video of this | 15:50 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: today, when I tried to download an app from market, it would not go | 15:51 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: I had to delete the user image | 15:51 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 15:51 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: and then it worked | 15:51 |
| arrrghhh | that's the fix typically. | 15:52 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: any ideas why that happened ? | 15:52 |
| arrrghhh | we're not running the official android? | 15:52 |
| wladston | afaik, yeah | 15:52 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not sure how the whole signing thing is working... if it is at all. | 15:52 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd would be able to give you much more information on the technical why. | 15:52 |
| wladston | ?! how is signing related to this problem ? | 15:53 |
| wladston | ?? | 15:53 |
| stinebd | it's not | 15:53 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 15:54 |
| arrrghhh | well then i have no clue why deleting the data.img fixes the market issues. | 15:55 |
| stinebd | nobody does | 15:55 |
| stinebd | if we had a clue, it'd be fixed | 15:55 |
| arrrghhh | it's all becoming as clear as mud. | 15:55 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 15:55 |
| arrrghhh | i guess the signing issue is just related to the bootloop then? | 15:56 |
| wladston | stinebd: does cell tower based location work for you ? | 15:56 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: no, the signing issue was supposed to help the updates frying data.img | 15:56 |
| stinebd | that didn't work out, so maybe the incremental updates are needed to further help with it | 15:56 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: it's related to android accepting updates from xdadev as it they were from google | 15:56 |
| stinebd | wladston: yes | 15:57 |
| arrrghhh | hm | 15:57 |
| arrrghhh | wladston: i think all gsm devices using the newest system image should have netloc working again. | 15:57 |
| stinebd | even with test keys, the updates shouldn't have been getting screwed up though | 15:57 |
| wladston | my netloc isn't working | 15:57 |
| arrrghhh | assuming netloc worked before :P there was an apk missing from the system. | 15:57 |
| arrrghhh | do you have the newest system image? | 15:58 |
| arrrghhh | i think you did that in pre-FRX02 right stine? | 15:58 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: I've made the build yesterday | 15:58 |
| stinebd | yes | 15:58 |
| wladston | where does this apk reside ? | 15:59 |
| stinebd | in the google apps package | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | well... you're not building the system image are you? | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | i thought you were just mucking with the rootfs. | 15:59 |
| stinebd | he's been bugging me for days with various things :P | 15:59 |
| wladston | nope, I have the whole build now | 15:59 |
| arrrghhh | dang | 16:00 |
| wladston | lol, I could go quieter if it's nothering | 16:00 |
| arrrghhh | really jumpin in head first. | 16:00 |
| wladston | *bothering | 16:00 |
| stinebd | doesn't bother me, but don't be offended if i stop replying | 16:00 |
| arrrghhh | wladston: no bother. if you can help out with the code, anything we can do to get you up & running | 16:00 |
| stinebd | i'm on the verge of greatness here with the updater | 16:00 |
| wladston | stinebd: sure, I'm used to irc | 16:00 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:00 |
| wladston | :) | 16:00 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: well, I could help with the netloc issue that I'm having | 16:02 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: I got the google stuff, but netloc isn't working here | 16:02 |
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| wladston | and it wasn't working on the pre-compiled build too | 16:02 |
| xdandroid | New XDAndroid Releases bug 43 filed... | 16:03 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=43 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Multilingual hardware input is unimplemented | 16:03 |
| wladston | nice feature the one this guy is requesting .... idea how to implement it tho | 16:06 |
| stinebd | !!!!! | 16:06 |
| stinebd | it worked! | 16:06 |
| stinebd | the world's first over-the-air xdandroid update | 16:06 |
| stinebd | caught on blurrycam | 16:06 |
| emwe | congrats! | 16:07 |
| stinebd | let's see how long that video is | 16:07 |
| stinebd | something like 4 minutes for FRX01->FRX02 | 16:07 |
| stinebd | 4:50 | 16:07 |
| wladston | cool! | 16:07 |
| wladston | :) | 16:07 |
| stinebd | ssssoooo blurry | 16:07 |
| stinebd | stupid nexus one | 16:07 |
| stinebd | also shaky | 16:08 |
| stinebd | me and my nervous hands | 16:08 |
| stinebd | phh: how do we get reboot to work on raph? :P | 16:08 |
| stinebd | we can do the crash the modem trick right? | 16:09 |
| * emwe still waiting for the donated raph.. | 16:09 | |
| phh | OTA on sdcard ? | 16:09 |
| stinebd | or wait, there was a hacky vreg for that | 16:09 |
| stinebd | phh: yeah, signed OTA update packages | 16:09 |
| phh | amazing job :p | 16:09 |
| phh | stinebd: and for the reboot I'll have to find again | 16:09 |
| stinebd | wow hmm | 16:11 |
| hamagc | ota? woot! | 16:11 |
| stinebd | wtf | 16:15 |
| stinebd | market is all screwed up | 16:15 |
| stinebd | on my nexus one even | 16:15 |
| stinebd | downloads unsuccessful | 16:15 |
| wladston | I would advice to remove the user image, that made it for me today | 16:16 |
| stinebd | i'm not doing that on my nexus one :P | 16:16 |
| wladston | oh | 16:16 |
| wladston | let me see if it's working for me | 16:17 |
| stinebd | oh god yes the update did work | 16:18 |
| wladston | congratz :) | 16:18 |
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| arrrghhh | c'mon stine just do it. | 16:20 |
| arrrghhh | wladston: we can talk about netloc in here. | 16:20 |
| wladston | I already asked about netloc, noone replyed .. | 16:20 |
| arrrghhh | you have to be on GSM... i thought all gsm devices were functional with netloc | 16:21 |
| wladston | I'm on GSM | 16:21 |
| arrrghhh | i won't be much help, my poor bastard cdma device will probably never have a functional netloc | 16:21 |
| arrrghhh | did it ever work? | 16:21 |
| wladston | nope | 16:22 |
| wladston | never | 16:22 |
| hamagc | :( | 16:22 |
| hamagc | our poor netloc | 16:23 |
| emwe | network based location broken again? uh? thought it was fixed with FRX02? | 16:23 |
| wladston | looks like it's broken just for me | 16:23 |
| Aks | netloc stopped working in the FRX002 build | 16:23 |
| hamagc | i've seen reports of it being broken on gsm | 16:23 |
| Aks | its broken on GSM | 16:23 |
| Aks | only | 16:24 |
| Aks | CDMA are fine | 16:24 |
| hamagc | cdma is fine? | 16:24 |
| hamagc | cdma never had netloc lol | 16:24 |
| wladston | Aks, hamagc, emwe : do we have the code for the netloc ? how can we debug it ? | 16:24 |
| wladston | my coordinates are always 0 00 00 and 0 00 00 unless I turn on the gps and get outdoors for a while | 16:24 |
| arrrghhh | Aks: uh.... | 16:25 |
| hamagc | i have no clue | 16:25 |
| emwe | Aks: i am on gms and i really thought it got fixed.. just let me try. | 16:25 |
| * wladston just saw the RHOD reboot by itself - weird | 16:25 | |
| emwe | wladston: it's an apk. and i think as it is a google service, it's closed source. | 16:25 |
| hamagc | well thats better than it booting by itself lol | 16:25 |
| hamagc | networklocation.apk | 16:25 |
| wladston | hamagc: is there a shell where we can interact with this apk in any way ? | 16:26 |
| hamagc | not that i know of | 16:26 |
| Aks | that apk was pakaged into something ? | 16:26 |
| arrrghhh | NetworkLocation.apk yea | 16:26 |
| arrrghhh | system image Aks | 16:26 |
| hamagc | is it a signature issue again? | 16:26 |
| wladston | the apk changed from the working version to this version ? | 16:26 |
| Aks | arrrghhh: any chance it got missed while packaging ? | 16:26 |
| hamagc | i know that was the issue on prefrx02? | 16:27 |
| Aks | why only for GSM | 16:27 |
| wladston | Aks: it could be missing, I'm unsure how to check for its presence | 16:27 |
| hamagc | because it doesn't work on cdma at this point, only gsm. | 16:27 |
| arrrghhh | Aks: netloc never worked for cdma. | 16:27 |
| arrrghhh | not many devs have cdma devices. | 16:27 |
| hamagc | wladston: if you have a file manager, look in system/apps i think | 16:27 |
| hamagc | doesn't work on cdma due to rmnet issues i believe | 16:28 |
| Aks | I had the BLAZN n it was great ... I even downloaded the text-2-speech for navigation ... | 16:28 |
| wladston | hamagc: ok, going to get a file manager from market, hold on | 16:28 |
| Aks | mine's a lil different - RHOD400 on GSM | 16:28 |
| wladston | Aks: yeah, tested text to speech navigation today ... GREAT | 16:28 |
| wladston | but it worked via GP | 16:28 |
| wladston | GPS | 16:28 |
| arrrghhh | Aks: that's a native CDMA device, so you may be SOL. not sure. | 16:28 |
| Aks | arrrghhh : I hv no idea how I got it working before :P | 16:29 |
| wladston | Aks: we have the repo changes, we can find out | 16:29 |
| wladston | :) | 16:29 |
| Aks | cool | 16:30 |
| arrrghhh | Aks: how do you know it was working before...? | 16:30 |
| Aks | arrrghhh: It always showed my position nearest to the 500-2000 mts. so I belv it took the loc of the nearest tower | 16:31 |
| wladston | any suggestions for file explorer ? | 16:31 |
| hamagc | astro | 16:31 |
| wladston | kay, downloading it | 16:31 |
| arrrghhh | Aks: were you connected to wifi...? | 16:33 |
| arrrghhh | i found some people that were saying netloc was working, only to find out they were connected to wifi. | 16:34 |
| wladston | looks like market isn't working again .... it was on "downloading..." now it's on "download paused" | 16:34 |
| stinebd | i have a feeling this is a google server issue, on both counts | 16:34 |
| wladston | is it just for me and stinebd, or is it affecting you guys too ? | 16:34 |
| wladston | yup | 16:35 |
| wladston | I'm going to use the shell to check the presence of the file | 16:35 |
| stinebd | netloc works on my n1 though | 16:35 |
| stinebd | market is really busted | 16:35 |
| wladston | "download unsuccessful" | 16:35 |
| Aks | arrrghhh : no | 16:35 |
| stinebd | i don't see any obvious errors on xdandroid regarding netloc | 16:36 |
| stinebd | just that it fails | 16:36 |
| stinebd | of course i've got an inactive sim in it, that might not help | 16:36 |
| Aks | I m always conenct to radio n/w | 16:37 |
| wladston | allright, I have NetworkLocation.apk in /system/app | 16:37 |
| arrrghhh | Aks: doesn't help me. | 16:37 |
| arrrghhh | wladston: so netloc didn't work on frx01 or older builds? | 16:38 |
| arrrghhh | may have even been before frx01 | 16:38 |
| arrrghhh | so hard to tell since it never worked for me :P | 16:38 |
| stinebd | netloc broke with frx01 | 16:38 |
| wladston | hamagc: can you point out the build where netloc still worked ? | 16:38 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: didn't work on frx01 | 16:38 |
| wladston | ok | 16:38 |
| stinebd | netloc was fixed in pre-frx02 | 16:38 |
| arrrghhh | ah. so wladston did it work before frx01 | 16:38 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: it did | 16:38 |
| arrrghhh | emwe: is your name wladston ? :P | 16:39 |
| wladston | idk, my first try was yesterday | 16:39 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 16:39 |
| hamagc | i'd say pre frx-01 or pre-frx02 from the sounds of it lol | 16:39 |
| arrrghhh | well that doesn't help me either ;) | 16:39 |
| hamagc | i'm really not sure as netloc has never worked for me | 16:39 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 16:39 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: ehrrr :P | 16:39 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 16:39 |
| arrrghhh | eh, netloc seems pretty minor in the grand scheme of things. | 16:40 |
| wladston | yeah, for sure | 16:40 |
| wladston | but is one thing I feel I would try to fix for starters | 16:40 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: if gps-fix takes 15 minutes one really starts to think about just relying on netloc ;) | 16:40 |
| emwe | brb5 | 16:40 |
| hamagc | gps-fix is like 10 seconds if you use quickgps in winmo first :D | 16:41 |
| wladston | booting in windows mobile, getting a fix and then back to android is like 5 min at least | 16:41 |
| hamagc | don't have to do it everytime | 16:42 |
| hamagc | maybe once a week? i think after that the quickgps expires | 16:42 |
| arrrghhh | emwe: eh when phone calls don't work really... netloc seems kinda minor :P | 16:43 |
| stinebd | always with the whining about phone calls | 16:43 |
| arrrghhh | yea 7 days for quickgps data | 16:43 |
| arrrghhh | but the newer the data the better. | 16:43 |
| stinebd | we should call the waaaahmbulance and bring in the cryer department | 16:43 |
| hamagc | psh who even makes phone calls on their phones these days? | 16:43 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd: i don't get that many important phone calls, but it seems everyone wants to f-ing call me when i'm testing android. | 16:43 |
| wladston | phone calls work great for me | 16:44 |
| arrrghhh | stupid murphy and his laws. | 16:44 |
| arrrghhh | wladston: you don't use your phone much as a phone then eh :P | 16:44 |
| hamagc | i never had too many issues with calls | 16:44 |
| hamagc | and i got alot of calls in android | 16:44 |
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| arrrghhh | hamagc: seriously?!? i've had tons of issues, on both my raph and rhod. i just avoid phone calls like the plage. | 16:45 |
| arrrghhh | plague | 16:45 |
| wladston | I never had a single issue with calls | 16:45 |
| arrrghhh | you must not take or make many calls. | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | i've seen more cdma guys complain, but some gsm guys have too. | 16:46 |
| wladston | humm | 16:46 |
| hamagc | once in a while it would flake out on me but for the most part (other than screen lag) i never had any real issues | 16:46 |
| JesusFreak316 | I never had any issues with my Raph for the month I used it before switching back to a cumbphone. | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | i hope stine's ril wrapper magic works. he doesn't seem too thrilled about it tho :P | 16:46 |
| hamagc | once the sound was fixed. lol originally i couldn't hear anyone | 16:46 |
| JesusFreak316 | *dumbphone* | 16:47 |
| stinebd | ril wrapper is probably a dead end | 16:48 |
| arrrghhh | eh android has been relegated to testing only for me. can't really run it for any extended periods of time. | 16:48 |
| arrrghhh | bah. | 16:48 |
| arrrghhh | that sucks. | 16:48 |
| Aks | arrrghhh: I had a fully functional phone on android | 16:48 |
| wladston | dumb question, how can I figure out with is the revision of the code ? I'm trying to see all the changes from pre-frx02 ( netloc working) to now (netloc broken) | 16:48 |
| wladston | *what is | 16:49 |
| arrrghhh | Aks: had? | 16:49 |
| hamagc | i'm not sure anything changed that regards netloc unless google changes something in their gapps. | 16:50 |
| hamagc | netloc if i am not mistaken is run by the ril and the apk | 16:50 |
| wladston | we can always check the diffs for the apk | 16:50 |
| hamagc | the ril hasn't changed until recently with people playing with it, but i don't think any changes have been pushed | 16:50 |
| wladston | hamagc: what is a ril ? | 16:50 |
| hamagc | thats the radio interface layer | 16:51 |
| wladston | humm | 16:51 |
| hamagc | thats what makes our phones talk with the networks | 16:51 |
| wladston | right | 16:51 |
| hamagc | we use a hacked version for our devices | 16:51 |
| JesusFreak316 | Ah, never knew what it stood for but figured it was something like that via context. :) | 16:51 |
| stinebd | not hacked at all :P | 16:51 |
| hamagc | seeing as no mfg has made one specific for us | 16:51 |
| stinebd | custom made by phh | 16:51 |
| phh | what have i broken ? | 16:51 |
| stinebd | ril | 16:51 |
| wladston | okay, so let's check wether the apk changed | 16:51 |
| phh | ah right | 16:51 |
| phh | as usual | 16:51 |
| hamagc | oh ya, a custom one from phh | 16:51 |
| phh | most of the ril isn't from me | 16:52 |
| phh | it's from vogue | 16:52 |
| stinebd | the good parts are from you | 16:52 |
| hamagc | isn't it hacked from vogue | 16:52 |
| stinebd | everything with AT+ at the beginning | 16:52 |
| hamagc | guess thats my answer | 16:52 |
| phh | lol. | 16:52 |
| hamagc | dzo? made the ril for vogue and phh adapted it for us, right? | 16:52 |
| stinebd | and dzo got most of it from reference | 16:53 |
| stinebd | :P | 16:53 |
| phh | hamagc: something like that | 16:53 |
| phh | stinebd: true | 16:53 |
| hamagc | lol | 16:53 |
| Aks | arrrghhh: I overwrote with frx002 w/o taking a bkup | 16:53 |
| arrrghhh | Aks: uhm... ok? | 16:53 |
| JesusFreak316 | I always do. It's just part of my OCD. :) I can't get past the nagging feeling that it might be better if I start fresh no matter what others say. | 16:54 |
| wladston | hamagc: can you help me identify with of those rars is the pre-frx02 ? | 16:54 |
| wladston | https://sites.google.com/site/androidport/downloads/archive | 16:54 |
| stinebd | http://files.xdandroid.com/system-pre-FRX02-bugs-2-3-4-14.ext2.zip | 16:55 |
| stinebd | that one | 16:55 |
| JesusFreak316 | Those are all eclair. | 16:55 |
| JesusFreak316 | ^What he said. | 16:55 |
| wladston | thanks | 16:55 |
| hamagc | np lol' | 16:55 |
| stinebd | oh wait, my bandwidth | 16:55 |
| hamagc | uhoh | 16:55 |
| stinebd | eh screw it | 16:55 |
| wladston | :) if you guys want some hosting | 16:55 |
| stinebd | thats probably still getting bounced to xland anyway | 16:55 |
| stinebd | i'm on the hook for $.30 so far | 16:56 |
| hamagc | ouch! | 16:56 |
| wladston | auch | 16:56 |
| hamagc | and we don't have any dontations to pay for that do we? | 16:56 |
| hamagc | need me to paypal a dollar over? lol | 16:56 |
| wladston | I have a dreamhost account with unlimited bandwidth | 16:56 |
| stinebd | ugh dreamhost | 16:57 |
| stinebd | no thanks | 16:57 |
| stinebd | you find out real quick there that unlimited bandwidth doesn't really mean that | 16:57 |
| stinebd | i've heard too many stories about people having some blog post take off on slashdot and dreamhost invoking the "do no damage to others" clause in their AUP and terminating immediately | 16:58 |
| wladston | woa | 16:59 |
| wladston | I'm sure it can take about 100GB/month at least | 17:00 |
| stinebd | we exceeded 300GB in a matter of roughly 5 days | 17:01 |
| wladston | !!! | 17:01 |
| wladston | who is hosting you ? | 17:01 |
| stinebd | we have donated space and pipes from xland.cz | 17:01 |
| arrrghhh | damn czechs | 17:02 |
| stinebd | the big files go on there | 17:02 |
| arrrghhh | for some reason my work proxy blocks it :P | 17:02 |
| stinebd | the sites go on my personal server | 17:02 |
| wladston | hum, ok | 17:02 |
| wladston | I guess it's safe to take the image from pre-frx02 and boot it to test netloc | 17:03 |
| wladston | right ? | 17:03 |
| stinebd | yes | 17:03 |
| wladston | ok | 17:03 |
| wladston | will do now | 17:03 |
| Aks | wladston take the BLAZN also ... thats what I had on mine | 17:04 |
| stinebd | we don't support blazn | 17:04 |
| Aks | ok | 17:04 |
| arrrghhh | indeed. | 17:04 |
| arrrghhh | blazn is behind currently as well | 17:04 |
| * wladston doesn't know what blazn is | 17:04 | |
| arrrghhh | reef's got some work to do catchin up | 17:04 |
| arrrghhh | wladston: custom build from an individual. | 17:04 |
| wladston | ahn, ok | 17:05 |
| stinebd | what exactly does he change anyway? | 17:05 |
| arrrghhh | he themes it | 17:05 |
| arrrghhh | removes 'bloatware' as he calls it | 17:05 |
| arrrghhh | and adds some apps | 17:05 |
| arrrghhh | launcherpro | 17:05 |
| arrrghhh | some media manager | 17:05 |
| arrrghhh | oh yea and put's an oc in the startup. | 17:05 |
| wladston | launcherpro ? he also had to change keys too then | 17:05 |
| wladston | oc ? | 17:06 |
| stinebd | yeah i knew about overclocking | 17:06 |
| arrrghhh | overclock. | 17:06 |
| wladston | right | 17:06 |
| wladston | I think my device gets unstable on oc | 17:06 |
| wladston | might be just back luck | 17:06 |
| stinebd | hell, they're usually unstable even without it | 17:06 |
| arrrghhh | eh kinda the nature of overclocking. | 17:06 |
| emwe | lol stinebd | 17:07 |
| wladston | :) | 17:07 |
| * wladston boots :) | 17:10 | |
| stinebd | fair warning, if it works in pre-frx02 i probably won't fix it in frx02 anyway | 17:11 |
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| stinebd | mostly due to lack of knowledge | 17:11 |
| Aks | does the frx002 support oc ? | 17:11 |
| wladston | stinebd: sure, I'll try to look into it | 17:11 |
| wladston | stinebd: any change the rootfs could have introduced the bug ? | 17:12 |
| stinebd | no | 17:12 |
| JesusFreak316 | By netloc you mean cell tower location, right? | 17:13 |
| wladston | JesusFreak316: yup | 17:15 |
| stinebd | new gapps package (and new mirror of the week) | 17:15 |
| JesusFreak316 | Just making sure. | 17:15 |
| hamagc | Aks: yes, all systems support overclocking, but stability is another beast. | 17:16 |
| emwe | stinebd: when having apps installed on boot from AndroidApps, are they becoming user or system apps? are they updatetable/deletable in market? | 17:16 |
| hamagc | updateable yes | 17:16 |
| hamagc | deletable i don't know | 17:17 |
| stinebd | user apps (installed in /data) | 17:17 |
| emwe | i recall them not being deletable. might be wrong memory though | 17:17 |
| stinebd | if you delete them, they'll be reinstalled on next boot | 17:17 |
| emwe | yah, but i can uninstall via regular android-means, right? | 17:17 |
| stinebd | probably | 17:17 |
| emwe | kk thx | 17:17 |
| hamagc | also if you update them, it will only update them in /data. not in androidapps | 17:17 |
| stinebd | but they'll be reinstalled again anyway | 17:17 |
| JesusFreak316 | What if you delete it from androidapps also? | 17:17 |
| hamagc | so if you refresh your data.img, you'll lose updates | 17:17 |
| emwe | stinebd: yah, unless i drop them from the folder. that was known ;) | 17:18 |
| hamagc | if you delete from androidapps and not /data, it will stay installed until you unintall it | 17:18 |
| emwe | of course. yes. | 17:18 |
| emwe | ;) | 17:18 |
| hamagc | if you uninstall and delete it'll be gone lol | 17:18 |
| JesusFreak316 | Thought so. | 17:18 |
| emwe | was always unsure about that installed once, never uninstallable. | 17:19 |
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| JesusFreak316 | Was that an isuue once upon a time past? I think I remember it. | 17:19 |
| JesusFreak316 | Maybe in the squashfs days? | 17:20 |
| hamagc | not that i know of | 17:21 |
| JesusFreak316 | Actually, I think I was thinking of preloaded apps in the system. | 17:21 |
| hamagc | preloaded apps are different. | 17:23 |
| wladston | I think the boot here stalled .... still on the animation | 17:24 |
| Aks | arrrghhh: in call mic working in frx002 ? | 17:26 |
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| arrrghhh | Aks: in call mic has nothing to do with the system images. the issue is in the kernel. | 17:29 |
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| stinebd | maybe gapps packages could be the first use case for incrementals | 17:30 |
| Aks | arrrghhh: right .. sometimes wors tho | 17:31 |
| arrrghhh | not sure what you mean Aks . | 17:31 |
| * wladston resets the boot and tries again | 17:32 | |
| Aks | oh ... sometimes works | 17:33 |
| arrrghhh | ok? | 17:33 |
| Aks | ya ok | 17:33 |
| arrrghhh | lol. | 17:33 |
| Aks | at least when it works its very clear | 17:34 |
| Aks | :P | 17:34 |
| arrrghhh | you make my brain hurt. | 17:34 |
| arrrghhh | what do you want? | 17:34 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not sure if you have a question, or if you're just rambling :P | 17:34 |
| Aks | i m not sure too :P | 17:35 |
| arrrghhh | well then. i'll go with 'rambling'. | 17:35 |
| Aks | sure :P | 17:35 |
| Aks | i m working on 3 diff things at the same time | 17:36 |
| arrrghhh | are you doing any one of them well? | 17:36 |
| emwe | stinebd: what's the reason that when i interchange an official build - e.g. FRX02 - with a customer built one but reuse the data.img? | 17:37 |
| stinebd | ESYNTAX | 17:37 |
| emwe | (reason of failure to resuse the "old" data image) | 17:37 |
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| stinebd | define customer built one? | 17:38 |
| emwe | my own build | 17:38 |
| stinebd | keys | 17:38 |
| wladston | emwe: what happens ? the boot keeps on forever ? | 17:38 |
| wladston | emwe: I'm not getting a boot with the older image | 17:38 |
| emwe | wladston: yap. when watching logcat it restarts the android process | 17:38 |
| wladston | ohhh... I'll boot back to windows, delete the image, and try again | 17:39 |
| stinebd | your build is presumably using the test keys, our official builds use production keys | 17:39 |
| emwe | stinebd: so if i'd use the production keys i'd be fine? because i slowly start hating screwing the data.img and starting from scratch. | 17:39 |
| wladston | another thing pals .. where did you all get the plastic protector for the screen on the device ? | 17:39 |
| stinebd | production keys are private btw (by design) | 17:40 |
| wladston | stinebd: we have real keys ? | 17:40 |
| stinebd | yes | 17:40 |
| emwe | wladston: official htc from ebay. bought two others for testing but haven't tried them yet. | 17:40 |
| arrrghhh | wladston: there's a ton of sites. i had one from 'bodyguardz' that was pretty sweet. | 17:40 |
| wladston | I have one, but I feel like it's too heavy | 17:41 |
| wladston | and doesn't feel good on the finger nor stylus | 17:41 |
| wladston | will try the official one | 17:42 |
| emwe | i think it's ok. not using any phone suit/case itself. it has a good scratch resistance imho. | 17:42 |
| wladston | with android, the phone deserves it :) ... will try to re-use the one it came with before ... if anyone got hints on that please pm me :) | 17:42 |
| hamagc | bah, i'm a fan of zagg | 17:43 |
| arrrghhh | zagg, never heard of 'em. | 17:43 |
| arrrghhh | i bought this one from some touchpro2 specific site thinking it would be awesome. | 17:44 |
| arrrghhh | the screen still feels ok, but the protector is atrocious. | 17:44 |
| arrrghhh | oh the ubuntu forums.... "Are Ubuntu Server Edition and LAMP the same thing? If not, which would be better for a beginner? Thanks" | 17:48 |
| wladston | lol | 17:48 |
| wladston | poor beginners | 17:48 |
| wladston | I would reply, yes. Get the ubuntu server edition. | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | eh, i think i poked them in the right direction. like use ubuntu-desktop lol. | 17:49 |
| wladston | yeah, sure :) | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | LOL no. there's no way i'm going to tell someone to install that if they don't know the difference between lamp and ubuntu server. | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | just like those posts i always see "why does my server boot up into DOS?" | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | ugh, makes me cringe. | 17:49 |
| wladston | LOOOOLLL | 17:49 |
| wladston | stinebd: finally managed to boot into that image | 17:50 |
| wladston | stinebd: but, there is just the browser and the calculator in it | 17:50 |
| wladston | I can't even get the shell to check for the presence of the apk | 17:52 |
| wladston | but, it's not working. | 17:52 |
| hamagc | wtf arrrghhh? | 17:53 |
| hamagc | never heard of zagg? | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | wladston: sometimes not all apps show up. reboot again, or do a long press on the home screen | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | try to add apps like that | 17:53 |
| hamagc | invisible shield? | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | hamagc: nope... should i? | 17:53 |
| hamagc | zomg it's amazing! | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | better than bodyguardz? | 17:53 |
| hamagc | best imho | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | those guys put their crap thru the most ridiculous testing. | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | they took this car key | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | and TRIED to shove it thru | 17:53 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: that did it, thanks! | 17:53 |
| hamagc | lol carkey | 17:53 |
| arrrghhh | couldn't do it. | 17:53 |
| hamagc | i used a steak knife to scratch mine | 17:54 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:54 |
| hamagc | barely made a mark | 17:54 |
| arrrghhh | well | 17:54 |
| arrrghhh | i'm sure it would go thru the plastic | 17:54 |
| arrrghhh | it is just plastic isn't it? | 17:54 |
| hamagc | but ya they have all those tests too | 17:54 |
| wladston | launching maps ... | 17:54 |
| hamagc | i dunno. like a strechy plastic | 17:54 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 17:54 |
| arrrghhh | sounds like bodyguardz | 17:54 |
| arrrghhh | but more $$$ | 17:54 |
| hamagc | the ads have them using keys and screwdrivers and all kinds of stuff | 17:54 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 17:54 |
| wladston | woa | 17:54 |
| hamagc | let me link you | 17:54 |
| wladston | works! | 17:55 |
| arrrghhh | hamagc: i'm there | 17:55 |
| arrrghhh | no need. | 17:55 |
| hamagc | oh ok | 17:55 |
| hamagc | i highly recommend. i have it on my phone, g/f's phone, friends phones | 17:55 |
| arrrghhh | hamagc: lol they're the same price. | 17:55 |
| wladston | :/ | 17:55 |
| hamagc | i started with just the screen but ended up with the full body | 17:55 |
| wladston | worked for like a second | 17:55 |
| wladston | then it located me back in africa | 17:56 |
| hamagc | i have dropped my phone more times than i can could and not a scratch anywhere on the phone itself | 17:56 |
| arrrghhh | wladston: you have it enabled in loc&sec right? | 17:56 |
| arrrghhh | yea i'm not sure i like the full body protection. | 17:56 |
| arrrghhh | it was nice at first... but it very quickly became a burden. the little tiny pieces would come off. | 17:56 |
| JesusFreak316 | I remember a while back both Winmo and Android said I was in New Jersey when I live in Florida. Wifi location though. | 17:56 |
| arrrghhh | well wifi loc is based on your IP. which we all know isn't always accurate. | 17:57 |
| hamagc | all of my pieces have stayed on for me | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | my work's IP is shown as some place in mexico on one site, and lakewood on another. | 17:57 |
| wladston | he is locating me at 00 00 00, 00 00 00 | 17:57 |
| hamagc | has a lifetime warranty too lol | 17:57 |
| wladston | clearly no location data | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | wladston: well that sounds like gps put you out there. | 17:57 |
| wladston | where does the maps locate you ? | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | wladston: make sure you disable gps | 17:57 |
| wladston | hummm ok | 17:57 |
| arrrghhh | wladston: at first it puts me out there, until my gps gets a lock. keep in mind, netloc has never and probably will never work for me. | 17:58 |
| wladston | (why would gps give this location ? that driver needs a little love ) :) | 17:58 |
| arrrghhh | no | 17:59 |
| arrrghhh | 0,0,0 is the 'default'. | 17:59 |
| wladston | now it gets my location | 17:59 |
| arrrghhh | until it gets a lock. | 17:59 |
| wladston | google maps on winmo uses gps too | 17:59 |
| wladston | but it never located me on africa | 17:59 |
| arrrghhh | don't use winmo as the benchmark dude :P | 18:00 |
| arrrghhh | when you first install google maps on winmo it puts you in san francisco. | 18:00 |
| arrrghhh | so what now :P | 18:00 |
| wladston | no, i'm not using it as the benchmark - I'm just saying that we can avoid this bejavior | 18:01 |
| arrrghhh | we can? | 18:01 |
| arrrghhh | well it seems the gps radio puts out 0's when it doesn't know where you are. | 18:01 |
| wladston | this special case should be considered | 18:01 |
| arrrghhh | so i guess if there's something we could do to prevent it showing the location until it gets something other than 0's. | 18:01 |
| wladston | yeah! | 18:01 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 18:01 |
| wladston | that's it | 18:01 |
| arrrghhh | again | 18:01 |
| arrrghhh | grand scheme of things | 18:01 |
| arrrghhh | this is MINOR | 18:01 |
| arrrghhh | if you feel like fixin it tho | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | i'm sure people would be happy lol. | 18:02 |
| wladston | sure ... but could you suggest something less minor that I could work on ? | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | camera | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | BT | 18:02 |
| hamagc | gps | 18:02 |
| hamagc | lol | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | my damned cell radio never working right | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | GPS? | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | gps works... | 18:02 |
| hamagc | kills sleeps | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | oh oh right. | 18:02 |
| wladston | arrrghhh, hamagc I don't even know how to start those | 18:02 |
| wladston | if any of you guys could guide me | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | wladston: is there something you do know how to start on...? | 18:03 |
| wladston | I'd definetively prefer camera | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | well start where you feel comfortable. | 18:03 |
| wladston | well, this location thing | 18:03 |
| wladston | I don't know | 18:03 |
| wladston | but at least it's within my confort zone | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | i'm comfortable with about nothing, hence the reason i try to help around the forums & the sea of n00bs. | 18:03 |
| wladston | at least I can look at ALL edits and try to figure out with one made it break | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | havin trouble keeping up lately tho... | 18:03 |
| hamagc | lol me too | 18:03 |
| hamagc | camera is being worked on | 18:04 |
| wladston | hamagc: by whom ? | 18:04 |
| arrrghhh | yea, bzo and wistilt seem to have hit a wall tho | 18:04 |
| hamagc | wistilt and bzo | 18:04 |
| arrrghhh | bzo and WisTilt2 mainly it seems. | 18:04 |
| wladston | they are on htc-linux | 18:04 |
| hamagc | yes | 18:04 |
| wladston | gon offer help, who knows they take it | 18:04 |
| arrrghhh | hamagc: lol there's a shootout of invisishield vs bodyguardz. | 18:04 |
| hamagc | oh ya? | 18:04 |
| hamagc | lol who wins? | 18:05 |
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| arrrghhh | hamagc: still watchin :P | 18:05 |
| hamagc | lol k | 18:05 |
| arrrghhh | they keep playing horror music when they do the testing lol | 18:05 |
| hamagc | lol | 18:07 |
| arrrghhh | eh bodyguardz *slightly* won. | 18:07 |
| arrrghhh | neither damaged the screen tho when they peeled it off. | 18:07 |
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| hamagc | was it the ipad test/ | 18:08 |
| arrrghhh | yup | 18:08 |
| arrrghhh | rocks, screws, etc. | 18:09 |
| hamagc | watching it now lol | 18:09 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 18:09 |
| arrrghhh | watching people beat their iphones with keys is awesome. | 18:09 |
| hamagc | heh his chicky there is kinda cute | 18:09 |
| hamagc | ohh on the rocks | 18:11 |
| hamagc | that makes me cring | 18:11 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:11 |
| arrrghhh | seriously | 18:11 |
| arrrghhh | god some of these reviews are just ridiculous. | 18:14 |
| arrrghhh | so they're both good products, i'm done watching videos comparing them lol | 18:14 |
| hamagc | lol | 18:14 |
| hamagc | i know i need to take mine back to get it replaced | 18:14 |
| hamagc | they say if you scratch it they will replace it for free | 18:14 |
| hamagc | if you get a new phone, take the old shield off the old phone and bring it in with your new phone and they will replace it for free | 18:15 |
| arrrghhh | bring it in? | 18:16 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't realize 'the internet' was a retail store :P | 18:17 |
| hamagc | they have retail stores too | 18:17 |
| hamagc | they have a thingy in the middle of our mall | 18:17 |
| arrrghhh | huh | 18:17 |
| arrrghhh | never seen one. | 18:17 |
| hamagc | little stand thingy where they sell and install them for you | 18:17 |
| arrrghhh | is it a third party cell phone sales place or an actual 'zagg' store? | 18:18 |
| hamagc | i installed my screen one and said fthat, i let them install the rest lol | 18:18 |
| hamagc | not so much a store, more like a pagoda thingy, but it's all zagg | 18:18 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:18 |
| hamagc | last time i got my g/f the full body, they gave us free headphones. nice ones at that | 18:18 |
| arrrghhh | yea looks like there's one in broomfield & park meadows. | 18:18 |
| arrrghhh | for $24? | 18:19 |
| hamagc | it was like $30 for the case itself and like 10 to have them install it | 18:19 |
| hamagc | was pretty cheap imo | 18:19 |
| arrrghhh | you paid $10 to have them install...? | 18:19 |
| hamagc | ya | 18:19 |
| arrrghhh | man. | 18:19 |
| hamagc | they did a damn good job at it too | 18:19 |
| arrrghhh | i thought $14.95 was a little outrageous for a screen protector. | 18:20 |
| hamagc | lol | 18:20 |
| arrrghhh | but if you're willing to pay $10 to have someone install it, maybe i'm the crazy one. oy. | 18:20 |
| hamagc | this wasn't just the screen though, it's the full body | 18:20 |
| arrrghhh | even still. | 18:20 |
| hamagc | and those things are a bi1tch to put on | 18:20 |
| arrrghhh | eh, not if you take your time | 18:20 |
| hamagc | which i absolutely suck at lol | 18:20 |
| hamagc | it reminded me of tinting my car | 18:21 |
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| hamagc | ehh, i figured if i'm going to spend 100-200 on a new phone, i can afford the 30 or 40 to get a good protector on it lol | 18:23 |
| hamagc | i can't wait to get the new phone now and take the shield off of this one to see what it looks like before i sell it | 18:23 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 18:23 |
| * arrrghhh is a cheap bastard | 18:24 | |
| hamagc | lol looks like we're set a spark under the camera gods a$$ | 18:24 |
| arrrghhh | i got both my tp1 & tp2 for free lol | 18:24 |
| hamagc | lol | 18:24 |
| hamagc | i paid 100 for my tp1 | 18:24 |
| hamagc | and that was like weeks before the tp2 came out | 18:24 |
| hamagc | but my hero/epic/evo/whatever my buddy got me for my bday will be free to me lol | 18:25 |
| arrrghhh | so your buddy got you a new phone/ | 18:25 |
| arrrghhh | i thought your gf did :P | 18:25 |
| hamagc | nope, buddy did | 18:25 |
| hamagc | she got me an engraved ring and a shower mirror/radio thingy | 18:25 |
| hamagc | the ring is nice though | 18:26 |
| hamagc | buddy got me something, no clue what yet. find out tonight i think | 18:26 |
| hamagc | i got him a moment | 18:26 |
| arrrghhh | nice | 18:28 |
| hamagc | http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/10/proposition-19-ads-will-air-on-comedy-cental-and-sf-bay-area-radio-.html | 18:38 |
| hamagc | woot!! | 18:38 |
| hamagc | 5 more days!! | 18:38 |
| hamagc | i'm so flipping excited!!! zomg!!! | 18:38 |
| Aks | hMgc: are you yes on 19 ? | 18:39 |
| hamagc | i am so yes on 19 | 18:39 |
| hamagc | everyone i know is yes on 19 | 18:40 |
| Aks | I heard a radio ad for no on 19 | 18:40 |
| hamagc | ya they mentioned that in the ad | 18:40 |
| hamagc | i thinks it's retarded | 18:40 |
| Aks | saying that now you can get high and then coem to office :P | 18:40 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: so ? | 18:40 |
| hamagc | you can get drunk and come to the office too | 18:40 |
| arrrghhh | wladston: so do you have the SDK for Android installed? | 18:40 |
| Aks | n no one can say anything abt it | 18:40 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: nope | 18:40 |
| hamagc | if your company has drug policies in place, you can't do crap | 18:40 |
| Aks | what abt the drug tests all companies need you to take before hiring you ... | 18:40 |
| Aks | thinhk they will go out the door too | 18:41 |
| hamagc | if you can drink before work, you can smoke before you. if you get fired for drinking, you'll get fired for smoking | 18:41 |
| arrrghhh | wladston: need to get that extracted somewheres. | 18:41 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: http://developer.android.com/sdk/ ? getting it | 18:41 |
| arrrghhh | yessir | 18:41 |
| hamagc | no drug tests are drug tests. just means that pot won't be such an issue anymore. they still will test for it, just like alcohol and coke and speed and herion. | 18:41 |
| hamagc | thats what i don't get with these ads | 18:42 |
| Aks | hmm ... bummer | 18:42 |
| arrrghhh | wladston: here's some ubuntu-specific directions once you get that up. http://androidcommunity.com/forums/320430-post3.html - what distro do you use? that may not apply to anything _but_ ubuntu, not sure. | 18:42 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: will I need the ecplipse plugin too ? | 18:42 |
| hamagc | they say you can smoke before driving a school bus and no one will be able to do anytihng | 18:42 |
| arrrghhh | wladston: i didn't. | 18:42 |
| wladston | ok | 18:42 |
| hamagc | but it's goign to be controled just like alcohol and last i remember, you weren't allowed to drink before driving a bus lol | 18:42 |
| wladston | I'll get that later | 18:42 |
| stinebd | ot... arrrghhh and wladston are working on something | 18:43 |
| hamagc | sorry | 18:43 |
| arrrghhh | yea, we've gotta get our newest dev up to speed! | 18:43 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 18:43 |
| hamagc | lol let me know if you need me for anything | 18:43 |
| arrrghhh | eh adb on linux (for me at least) was pretty easy following that post. | 18:43 |
| wladston | :) | 18:43 |
| wladston | thanks | 18:43 |
| Aks | yep ... anyways ... time to go home 101 looks ok as of now | 18:44 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't add it to my $PATH, that would make things easier on me. | 18:44 |
| hamagc | gl | 18:44 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: with post ? | 18:44 |
| arrrghhh | that androidcommunity one i gave earlier? | 18:44 |
| arrrghhh | and asked what distro you were on? | 18:44 |
| arrrghhh | mixed in with the drug chat :P | 18:44 |
| hamagc | :D | 18:45 |
| wladston | hummm ... I think I missed it | 18:45 |
| wladston | :D | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | http://androidcommunity.com/forums/320430-post3.html | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | what distro are you running? | 18:45 |
| wladston | great | 18:45 |
| wladston | that looks simple | 18:45 |
| wladston | ubuntu 10.10 | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | perfect. | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | that should work out just fine then. | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | once you download & extract the sdk | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | do what is says in that post | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | then you need to start the adb server by going to the tools directory, and doing a "./adb start-server" | 18:46 |
| arrrghhh | then you should be good to do a "./adb logcat" | 18:46 |
| hamagc | jeez, that seems so much easier on windows lol | 18:46 |
| arrrghhh | hamagc: it is... | 18:46 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 18:46 |
| arrrghhh | and it doesn't blow up every time something changes with the drivers haha | 18:47 |
| hamagc | i just threw everything in my windows folder, then in a cmd prompt, adb command | 18:47 |
| hamagc | lol ya thats a downfall for sure | 18:47 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: so I have ~/projects/xandroid/bin on my PATH, I just put the android-sdk-linux_x86 folder in there and it should be fine, right ? | 18:47 |
| arrrghhh | wladston: here's the page on adb - http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/tools/adb.html | 18:47 |
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| arrrghhh | wladston: you may have to specify all the way down to the tools directory... i was lazy (or just stupid) and didn't add it to my $PATH yet. | 18:48 |
| arrrghhh | i just cd to the tools directory :PO | 18:48 |
| arrrghhh | er | 18:48 |
| arrrghhh | smiley fail | 18:48 |
| wladston | hehe, will add the tools dir to path :) | 18:48 |
| arrrghhh | if you just want a typical console connection | 18:49 |
| arrrghhh | "./adb shell" | 18:49 |
| arrrghhh | and you'll basically be telnetted to the phone :D | 18:49 |
| wladston | wow | 18:49 |
| wladston | much better | 18:49 |
| wladston | phone just booted | 18:49 |
| arrrghhh | UI/Application Exerciser Monkey | 18:51 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:51 |
| arrrghhh | that's awesome. | 18:51 |
| wladston | got the baby : Bus 001 Device 018: ID 0bb4:0c01 High Tech Computer Corp. Dream / ADP1 / G1 Phone | 18:52 |
| arrrghhh | nice. | 18:52 |
| wladston | okay, did what it says on that post | 18:54 |
| arrrghhh | alrighty, i think you should be ready | 18:54 |
| arrrghhh | try it out | 18:54 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: humm wait | 18:54 |
| arrrghhh | wait?!!? didn't anyone tell you i have no patience for waiting? | 18:54 |
| wladston | I have to change the ID according to what I got with lsusb, right ? | 18:55 |
| wladston | lol | 18:55 |
| arrrghhh | yes. | 18:55 |
| wladston | ok | 18:55 |
| arrrghhh | match whatever you found with the lsusb command | 18:55 |
| wladston | ok | 18:56 |
| wladston | now what ? | 18:56 |
| arrrghhh | try adb | 18:56 |
| arrrghhh | adb start-server | 18:56 |
| arrrghhh | adb shell | 18:56 |
| wladston | ok | 18:56 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: I hit the permission issue | 19:01 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: let me double check that I did everything right | 19:01 |
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| arrrghhh | hmmm | 19:07 |
| arrrghhh | do you have to run adb as sudo? | 19:07 |
| arrrghhh | i think you do | 19:08 |
| arrrghhh | sorry as root | 19:08 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: aarrrggghhtt can't get it to work | 19:08 |
| arrrghhh | with sudo :P | 19:08 |
| wladston | really ? | 19:08 |
| arrrghhh | wladston: try doing sudo adb start-stop server | 19:08 |
| wladston | ok | 19:08 |
| arrrghhh | sorry | 19:08 |
| wladston | the server starts | 19:08 |
| arrrghhh | sudo adb start-server | 19:08 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 19:08 |
| wladston | as user | 19:08 |
| arrrghhh | well | 19:08 |
| wladston | I just can't start the shell | 19:08 |
| arrrghhh | it may, but it may not have the correct permissions :P | 19:08 |
| arrrghhh | you may have to stop the server as your user | 19:08 |
| arrrghhh | and start it with sudo. | 19:08 |
| arrrghhh | i'm no adb professional by any means. | 19:09 |
| hamagc | adb kill-server | 19:09 |
| wladston | ok | 19:10 |
| wladston | now it worked | 19:11 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 19:11 |
| wladston | COOL | 19:11 |
| hamagc | :D | 19:11 |
| arrrghhh | hehe | 19:12 |
| wladston | right, now I have to find a way to run that as a user | 19:12 |
| arrrghhh | i think it needs to be root...? | 19:13 |
| arrrghhh | why do you have to run it as your user? | 19:13 |
| wladston | I don't like running things as root | 19:14 |
| stinebd | http://www.lineardroid.co.uk/2010/04/how-to-set-up-adb-in-ubuntu/ | 19:14 |
| stinebd | see the udev part | 19:14 |
| wladston | stinebd: thanks | 19:14 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 19:15 |
| arrrghhh | that's easy enough. | 19:15 |
| arrrghhh | thanks stine :D | 19:15 |
| * arrrghhh has used adb 2x now haha | 19:15 | |
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| wladston | on the rules file ... the quote should really be ” and not " ? | 19:17 |
| arrrghhh | lol they're both quotes. one is stylized. | 19:18 |
| wladston | both work ? | 19:18 |
| arrrghhh | uhm | 19:19 |
| arrrghhh | stylized quotes probably won't work. | 19:20 |
| wladston | ahn | 19:22 |
| wladston | now it worked | 19:22 |
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| wladston | great | 19:22 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: great... what is my next step ? | 19:23 |
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| hamagc | well now that was random | 19:23 |
| wladston | hamagc: I want to be able to read debug prints from the camera lib | 19:24 |
| wladston | I need to | 19:24 |
| wladston | 1 . learn where to put the debug code | 19:24 |
| wladston | 2. learn how to compile the debug code | 19:24 |
| wladston | 3. learn how to upload the debug code | 19:24 |
| wladston | 4, learn how to run the debug code | 19:24 |
| hamagc | hmm | 19:25 |
| wladston | 5. learn where to read the results from | 19:25 |
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| stinebd | hah | 19:26 |
| stinebd | i'm wondering wtf is wrong with my code to generate a gapps ota update between 20101020.1 and 20101025, because it's generating an empty ota file | 19:26 |
| stinebd | turns out they're exactly the same except for the removed tarball that they mistakenly had in 20101020.1 | 19:26 |
| wladston | hehe :) | 19:27 |
| wladston | doh moments aways happen | 19:27 |
| stinebd | this confirms my suspicion that those doh moments are never my fault | 19:27 |
| hamagc | lol | 19:27 |
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| stinebd | emwe: have you checked to make sure data roaming is off by default now? i never actually...err... tested it | 19:28 |
| hamagc | wladston: not sure if this helps you but: http://developer.android.com/guide/developing/tools/adb.html | 19:29 |
| wladston | hamagc: thanks : | 19:29 |
| wladston | :) | 19:29 |
| hamagc | i'm thinking adb logcat -d? | 19:29 |
| emwe | stinebd: will let yo know tomorrow. i think i saw it. just screwed my panel code. can't tell you visibly ;) | 19:30 |
| wladston | stinebd: just to let you know | 19:30 |
| wladston | netloc isn't broken | 19:30 |
| wladston | it's just that whenever gps is on, it will pass zeroed coordinates, even indoor | 19:30 |
| wladston | and those will override netloc | 19:31 |
| wladston | stinebd: fixing the gps not to pass coordinates till it has a fix is something I think I could do | 19:32 |
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| hamagc | ok guys, i;m off | 19:32 |
| hamagc | i will catch ya tomorrow | 19:32 |
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| wladston | aha! logcat is a adb command | 19:34 |
| wladston | wow | 19:34 |
| emwe | adb help :) | 19:35 |
| wladston | that log really helps getting an idea | 19:35 |
| emwe | yap | 19:35 |
| emwe | you can constrain by TAG and log level | 19:35 |
| emwe | wladston: experience with eclipse? you can add the adt eclipse plugin and could have a somewhat more conformatable debug expierience at least logging wise | 19:36 |
| emwe | dunno if remote debugging is of any help for you | 19:36 |
| emwe | (when debugging camera) | 19:36 |
| wladston | it probably is | 19:36 |
| wladston | going to follow the rest of that tutorial and get myself eclipse set up | 19:37 |
| emwe | will also have to do the udev thing in that adb setup tutorial. always have to sudo here. that is a pita .) | 19:37 |
| wladston | that is already done I guess | 19:38 |
| wladston | whoa | 19:38 |
| wladston | I have to ear | 19:38 |
| wladston | eat | 19:38 |
| wladston | brb | 19:38 |
| emwe | i have to go to bed. | 19:39 |
| emwe | since one and a half hours. | 19:39 |
| emwe | gnight | 19:42 |
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| wladston | great | 20:03 |
| wladston | finished to eat and to configure eclipse | 20:03 |
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| wladston | stinebd: when I run the camera code, it gives two log messages ... I can't find neither on the source for for the camera ( hardware/msm/libcamera2 ) | 20:38 |
| wladston | it says V/camera ( 2709): media server died | 20:38 |
| wladston | but I can't find that string | 20:39 |
| wladston | phh: if you aren't too busy ... | 20:41 |
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| stinebd | wladston: that's unrelated to the actual issue | 20:55 |
| stinebd | and you're on your own for that | 20:56 |
| stinebd | the joys of initial development | 20:56 |
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| wladston | stinebd: let me ask you a question - do you use the image.ext2, or do you have a dedicated ext2 partition ? | 22:02 |
| wladston | because it looks like it's easier to change only the module that I want | 22:02 |
| wladston | instead of compiling everything | 22:03 |
| wladston | and changing the image | 22:03 |
| wladston | I'm taking ages to get my new compiled code to run | 22:03 |
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| wladston | I'm trying to compile a module, but make isn't "considering" it ... | 22:28 |
| wladston | how can I make make make my code ? | 22:28 |
| wladston | .... ok ... here I go .... make clean | 22:54 |
| wladston | :( | 22:54 |
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