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| freaky_ | hi | 03:00 |
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| freaky_ | I need help | 03:00 |
| freaky_ | After the Android loads is that it (after animation) | 03:01 |
| freaky_ | HELLO...I need to know how do I access my sd card while in android | 03:13 |
| freaky_ | All help appreciated | 03:13 |
| TheDeadCPU | It's not possible. | 03:14 |
| freaky_ | SO how do I exit ou tof android? | 03:14 |
| TheDeadCPU | Restart the phone. | 03:14 |
| freaky_ | Soft-start? | 03:14 |
| TheDeadCPU | Yup. | 03:14 |
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| TheDeadCPU | Soft reset it. | 03:14 |
| freaky_ | ok thanx again TheDeadCPU | 03:14 |
| TheDeadCPU | np | 03:14 |
| freaky_ | do u kno anything about terminal emulator? | 03:25 |
| TheDeadCPU | yes. | 03:25 |
| freaky_ | umm when i go to type first its in chinese second i wont type on screen | 03:25 |
| freaky_ | like how to I click the buttons...i have diamond 2 or whatever theyre called | 03:26 |
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| TheDeadCPU | You're using the Chinese keyboard then. | 03:28 |
| TheDeadCPU | Long hold and select "input method" | 03:28 |
| TheDeadCPU | And select "android keyboard" | 03:28 |
| freaky_ | long hold? | 03:28 |
| TheDeadCPU | Press on the place you write til it pops up a popup | 03:29 |
| freaky_ | the bluee screen? | 03:29 |
| freaky_ | or the kboard? | 03:29 |
| TheDeadCPU | no the small input box | 03:30 |
| freaky_ | with all the numbers @stuff? | 03:30 |
| TheDeadCPU | No, the place the chinese characters comes up when you press the keyboard | 03:30 |
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| freaky_ | yeah thats not happening | 03:31 |
| TheDeadCPU | ... | 03:32 |
| freaky_ | the actuall screen with the $ signs aint show'n no pop up | 03:32 |
| TheDeadCPU | Yea, try long holding on the blue place for like 5 seconds | 03:32 |
| TheDeadCPU | Then release | 03:32 |
| freaky_ | the actual highlited box or no matter? and wats action key | 03:33 |
| TheDeadCPU | When you have terminal emulator up.. You just longhold on where the text should pop up when you type | 03:34 |
| freaky_ | ty | 03:34 |
| TheDeadCPU | Why are you in the terminal emulator anyways? | 03:34 |
| freaky_ | I am running somehting | 03:34 |
| TheDeadCPU | ok | 03:34 |
| freaky_ | wats control key do? | 03:35 |
| TheDeadCPU | dunno | 03:35 |
| freaky_ | comman dline? | 03:35 |
| TheDeadCPU | Don't know. | 03:35 |
| freaky_ | ive been holding screen for 10 secs then i let go and nothing popped up | 03:36 |
| TheDeadCPU | Hmm.. | 03:36 |
| TheDeadCPU | Open the SMS application and do it in there instead | 03:36 |
| TheDeadCPU | So you can change the keyboard, than you can go back and do it in the terminal | 03:37 |
| freaky_ | but that aint terminal emualtor does it matter? | 03:37 |
| freaky_ | okk | 03:37 |
| freaky_ | how do i run it? | 03:40 |
| TheDeadCPU | run what? | 03:40 |
| freaky_ | run my typing from TE | 03:40 |
| TheDeadCPU | press the enter key on the keyboard | 03:41 |
| freaky_ | is none lol | 03:41 |
| TheDeadCPU | Then you're fucked | 03:41 |
| freaky_ | lol and it cant find my sdcard wtf | 03:42 |
| TheDeadCPU | I've got to go | 03:42 |
| TheDeadCPU | bye | 03:43 |
| freaky_ | lol cyuh | 03:43 |
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| freaky_ | i need help? | 03:49 |
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| wladston2 | I have a Rhoium running the latest build. I have a little issue - the power key ( with should be mapped to the home key) is currently mapped to the End key. | 10:13 |
| wladston2 | how can I fix that : | 10:13 |
| wladston2 | ? | 10:13 |
| NeoMatrixJR | power has been remapped to be POWER. End now serves as home | 10:13 |
| NeoMatrixJR | this matches WinMo button config | 10:13 |
| wladston2 | NeoMatrixJR but my end is still maped to END | 10:14 |
| wladston2 | I have no home key | 10:14 |
| NeoMatrixJR | oh, right | 10:14 |
| NeoMatrixJR | run "spare parts" | 10:14 |
| NeoMatrixJR | there's an option in there to set the behavior of the end key | 10:14 |
| wladston2 | ops, wait, I went back to winmo | 10:14 |
| wladston2 | wow, great | 10:14 |
| wladston2 | also, is there a way to map the back key ? | 10:15 |
| * wladston2 waits the boot back to android | 10:16 | |
| NeoMatrixJR | You'll need to find the key's # and set it up in the keymap. This requires modifying it in the rootfs or on your phone (and it'll get wiped out eventually) | 10:16 |
| NeoMatrixJR | what did you want it set to? | 10:17 |
| wladston2 | the home key, or the search key | 10:17 |
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| wladston2 | well, any map would be better than no map I think :) | 10:18 |
| NeoMatrixJR | well, you can map it as long as you know how to set it up in the keymap | 10:18 |
| wladston2 | I think that on the tilt keymaps it's mappd to home key | 10:18 |
| wladston2 | right | 10:19 |
| wladston2 | hummm where can I find the "spare parts" ? I can't find it on the programs list ... | 10:20 |
| wladston2 | ops | 10:21 |
| wladston2 | found it | 10:21 |
| wladston2 | :D | 10:21 |
| wladston2 | oh, now end goes to home | 10:22 |
| wladston2 | and power sleeps | 10:22 |
| wladston2 | but .... I still can't swith applications | 10:22 |
| wladston2 | the main reason I wanted a home key was to swith applications | 10:23 |
| NeoMatrixJR | sorry, that functionality has been lost to us | 10:24 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I liked it too, but at least now I don't get my buttons screwed up from WinMo to Android | 10:24 |
| wladston2 | wow | 10:25 |
| wladston2 | that's a bit drastic | 10:25 |
| wladston2 | well, we could still map the back key to do it | 10:25 |
| wladston2 | like it is already set on tilt2 | 10:25 |
| wladston2 | that way you could alternate between tweetdeck and browser and email client :) | 10:26 |
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| leobaillard | is there no home key on the rhodium ? cause on my Diamond, the home button lets appear the app switcher | 10:32 |
| wladston2 | leobailard : nope, no home key for me at least | 10:32 |
| wladston2 | I'm booting again using the settings for tilt2 to see wether it works | 10:33 |
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| wladston2 | nope ... back key is unmaped, and power is maped the same way as end | 10:35 |
| wladston2 | NeoMatrixJR could you point me to instructions on how to edit the rootfs ? | 10:36 |
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| wladston2 | also ... if you could point me to the latest version where the home key still existed | 10:39 |
| NeoMatrixJR | sorry, back. got a phone call. | 10:50 |
| wladston2 | np :) | 10:50 |
| NeoMatrixJR | um... let me see if I still have my resources from my first keymap edit | 10:51 |
| wladston2 | i've been searching here ... and still found nothing | 10:51 |
| wladston2 | what's the relation between xdandroid.com and xda-developers.com ? | 10:53 |
| wladston2 | if they are the same, you should probably change the wiki page for rhodium | 10:53 |
| wladston2 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=RhodiumAndroid | 10:53 |
| wladston2 | on "Keymapping" | 10:53 |
| NeoMatrixJR | clicky the edit button! I don't know who keeps them up, but that's what wikis are for. you can edit it to! | 10:55 |
| NeoMatrixJR | let's see... the keymaps are in /init.etc/keymaps | 10:55 |
| wladston2 | humm ... I'm back at android now | 10:56 |
| NeoMatrixJR | in my rhod400_microp-keypad.kl the last line has key 102 as REAR_MUTE | 10:58 |
| wladston2 | great | 10:58 |
| wladston2 | that's on the source code ? | 10:58 |
| NeoMatrixJR | you can edit that directly on the phone or in the rootfs.img. I'm not sure if you can uncompress/modify/recompress the rootfs.img or if you'll need to build one yourself | 10:59 |
| NeoMatrixJR | previously I modified the files on my phone for test, then sent them to phh to be put in the source control/auto-builds | 11:00 |
| phh | wut ? | 11:00 |
| NeoMatrixJR | and I think you may have to restart after you modify. I don't remember now since I have a rootfs build environment set up so I do it right! | 11:00 |
| wladston2 | :) cool | 11:00 |
| NeoMatrixJR | oh, hi phh...you are there. | 11:00 |
| NeoMatrixJR | just talking about modifying keymaps | 11:01 |
| wladston2 | well, I'm on the terminal at the phone | 11:01 |
| phh | ah right | 11:01 |
| NeoMatrixJR | phh: wladston2 wanted to map something to the mute button on the back of the RHOD. | 11:02 |
| phh | right | 11:02 |
| wladston2 | actually I just wanted a home button | 11:02 |
| NeoMatrixJR | wladston2: I'm not sure if I would suggest pushing it out to everyone though unless you get the feeling from other RHOD users on here that it would be a welcome change | 11:03 |
| wladston2 | to be able to swith applications - that buton is the only way to do it in android as far as I can tell | 11:03 |
| wladston2 | where can I find other RHOD users ? I'm wondering how they are managing to use the phone without the home key | 11:03 |
| wladston2 | cool, I have vi on the android terminal :) | 11:04 |
| wladston2 | it's a pity vi is not usable without an esc key :D | 11:05 |
| wladston2 | well, I'll have to deal with this when I get home | 11:07 |
| NeoMatrixJR | wladston2: check with arrrghhh, WisTilt2, and [acl] when they come online (usually around now or in an hour or two) | 11:07 |
| wladston2 | I can't do much from the computer college | 11:07 |
| wladston2 | right! | 11:07 |
| wladston2 | I'll be home in about 4 hours I think | 11:07 |
| NeoMatrixJR | yeah...I want NANO on my phone terminal | 11:07 |
| wladston2 | I want NANO too! :) | 11:07 |
| NeoMatrixJR | sorry I know it makes me a sucky linux user, but I never learned vi | 11:07 |
| wladston2 | hehe, we are 2 | 11:08 |
| NeoMatrixJR | it's been done, but I haven't tried in a while | 11:08 |
| wladston2 | I only learned the stritc basics of vi | 11:08 |
| wladston2 | going for my class ... thanks for all the help NeoMatrixJR, will ttyl | 11:09 |
| NeoMatrixJR | kbai | 11:09 |
| wladston2 | :) | 11:09 |
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| hamagc | ohhhhh pspphone | 11:54 |
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| patricke21 | hi @ all | 12:14 |
| patricke21 | i need help. Can someone help me? | 12:14 |
| patricke21 | hallo kann mir jemand helfen? | 12:16 |
| patricke21 | ping | 12:16 |
| patricke21 | !ping | 12:17 |
| hamagc | ? | 12:17 |
| patricke21 | hi | 12:17 |
| hamagc | hi | 12:18 |
| patricke21 | witch language? | 12:18 |
| hamagc | english | 12:18 |
| hamagc | you? | 12:18 |
| patricke21 | germany english is not good | 12:18 |
| patricke21 | but | 12:18 |
| hamagc | we'll make due, whats up? | 12:18 |
| patricke21 | i´ll install XDAndroid on my HTC Touch Diamond | 12:19 |
| hamagc | ok | 12:19 |
| patricke21 | but the last Release on this page has no heard and startup and so on | 12:20 |
| patricke21 | i have unzipped the file | 12:20 |
| hamagc | the last release is just an update, not the entire package | 12:20 |
| patricke21 | ok | 12:21 |
| hamagc | all you need to do is unzip it, and replace the system.ext2 that is in your internal storage with the one that you unzip | 12:21 |
| patricke21 | where become i a good working version of xdandrid for my htc | 12:21 |
| hamagc | you might need to delete the data.img file. best to back it up and try it before deleting it. | 12:21 |
| hamagc | it's still an ongoing project. for the best running, usually the latest release is what your looking for. | 12:22 |
| patricke21 | ok. i have just now no androit installed | 12:22 |
| patricke21 | where can i download a good working system with i can update | 12:23 |
| hamagc | if you don't have anything installed, download the latest full package and replace the system.ext2 file with the latest update. also update the zimage/modules files and the rootfs.img | 12:23 |
| patricke21 | ok but where | 12:24 |
| patricke21 | can i download the full package | 12:24 |
| hamagc | i'm going to link you to the main thread which is in the touch pro section but all the files are the same. when you install make sure you pick the correct startup.txt for your device | 12:24 |
| patricke21 | ok i know | 12:24 |
| hamagc | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711692 | 12:25 |
| hamagc | post 3 is where the downloads start but i would suggest reading through everything. lots of good info you'll need | 12:25 |
| patricke21 | my xdandoit, with i haved installed and now uninsgtallt can`t ring. only the rington silence | 12:25 |
| patricke21 | ok thx | 12:26 |
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| patricke21 | thanks alot | 12:27 |
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| LeTama | hello guys, I have a question for you: I want to do a minimum adbd + shell initrd, do you know what I have to run to please adbd ? | 13:04 |
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| hamagc | LeTama: your best bet would be to ask stinebd on that one i believe | 14:31 |
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| Aks | navigation is not working in the latest release | 15:00 |
| wladston | hummm ... so it isn't just me! | 15:03 |
| wladston | my coordinates are always 0 00' 00'' , 0 00' 00'' | 15:03 |
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| wladston | is there any RHOD user in there ? | 15:06 |
| wladston | I'd like to discuss a small change | 15:06 |
| wladston | to map the currently unmapped back button | 15:07 |
| wladston | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1m4j676BCc -- that button is a CORE feature on android | 15:07 |
| wladston | and there is no maps for it currently | 15:07 |
| LeTama | hamagc, thanks. Found a solution with init + minimal init.rc, good enough for me. | 15:09 |
| wladston | NeoMatrixJR: still there ? | 15:10 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: you there ? | 15:12 |
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| Aks | wladston : if you press power button it enables switching | 15:27 |
| wladston | Aks: no, no longer | 15:27 |
| wladston | Aks: for me the power button works exactly like the End button | 15:27 |
| wladston | Aks: I was told here that it was a recent change to preserve the original function of the keys or something | 15:28 |
| wladston | NeoMatrixJRpower has been remapped to be POWER. End now serves as home10:13 | 15:28 |
| wladston | NeoMatrixJRthis matches WinMo button config | 15:29 |
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| wladston | I'm currently trying to figure out how to change the map | 15:30 |
| Aks | get an old rootfs | 15:32 |
| wladston | else I'll have to build it ? | 15:34 |
| wladston | Aks | 15:35 |
| wladston | ~stinebd hangs arround here ? | 15:36 |
| wladston | stinebd: you there ? | 15:36 |
| wladston | ... I'm going to try to get a build environment here | 15:38 |
| Aks | camro: is you build 21 compatible with the Oct13 autobuild release ? | 15:46 |
| * wladston downloads sun-java5-jdk | 15:48 | |
| camro | Aks: the v21 is almost the same as the autobuild | 15:50 |
| camro | all changes are commited | 15:51 |
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| arrrghhh | wladston: reallly... | 16:02 |
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| arrrghhh | so you want to map mute to home...? | 16:03 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: well, I really wanted a home | 16:03 |
| wladston | regardless where it is mapped | 16:03 |
| arrrghhh | meh | 16:03 |
| arrrghhh | i never used the recent apps list. | 16:03 |
| arrrghhh | and having power = home was kinda stupid you have to admit. | 16:03 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: how do you switch context ? | 16:03 |
| arrrghhh | click the screen? | 16:03 |
| arrrghhh | the apps will still run | 16:04 |
| wladston | where ? when an app is running it occupies the whole screen | 16:04 |
| arrrghhh | you don't _have_ to use the recent apps list to properly use multitasking | 16:04 |
| arrrghhh | so you've remapped END to = HOME right? | 16:04 |
| arrrghhh | hit the end key, click on the app. | 16:04 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: well, is there a way to change app without using the home ? | 16:04 |
| arrrghhh | no... there never was before either. | 16:04 |
| arrrghhh | you had to use long press on home to get that recent apps list. | 16:05 |
| wladston | right | 16:05 |
| arrrghhh | so you hit end, it goes back to the homescreen | 16:05 |
| arrrghhh | click the app you want | 16:05 |
| arrrghhh | multitasking. | 16:05 |
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| arrrghhh | it's the same really, just doesn't have a convienent list when you're in an application. | 16:05 |
| wladston | right :) I wanted to know what applications are running | 16:05 |
| wladston | like I used to in windows mobile | 16:05 |
| arrrghhh | well | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | that list wasn't a list of running apps | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | you know that right? | 16:06 |
| arrrghhh | it's ONLY a list of "recent apps" | 16:06 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: I'm starting to learn that | 16:07 |
| wladston | :) | 16:07 |
| arrrghhh | regardless of what was running. | 16:07 |
| arrrghhh | lol ok | 16:07 |
| arrrghhh | . | 16:07 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: I just installed android yesterday | 16:07 |
| arrrghhh | fair enough. | 16:07 |
| arrrghhh | man and you're already up in arms about the home key eh? :P | 16:07 |
| arrrghhh | the forums blew up with that change, trust me a lot of other people share your frustration. | 16:07 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: hehe, no, I'm not "up in arms", I just wanted to see how it looks like | 16:08 |
| arrrghhh | there's just no good solution to make everyone happy. | 16:08 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: oh, you can be assured that I do know that :) | 16:08 |
| arrrghhh | i guess mapping it to mute long press would work... i think we considered it, but not every rhod has that mute evidently. | 16:08 |
| arrrghhh | haha good :D | 16:08 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: I thought every rhod had that mute! | 16:09 |
| emwe | should any rhod have that button? | 16:09 |
| arrrghhh | evidently not. | 16:09 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not sure which ones don't. i think stinebd told me that... | 16:09 |
| arrrghhh | any input mr. stine or are you dead? | 16:09 |
| emwe | he relieves from the weekend release ;) | 16:09 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: well, I know that some don't have a PTT (push to talk) button | 16:09 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:09 |
| wladston | mine doesn't | 16:09 |
| wladston | :) | 16:09 |
| arrrghhh | wladston: yea mine as well. i think only gsm rhods have that button. | 16:10 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: well, I think we all can agree that it's better to have a mapped button than an unmapped one, if it maps to something minimally useful ... | 16:10 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: I can code too, maybe I could help doing the camera driver .. or the bt stack | 16:12 |
| arrrghhh | really now? | 16:12 |
| arrrghhh | c? kernel? | 16:12 |
| emwe | camera is being worked on. dunno how succesful though | 16:12 |
| wladston | c | 16:12 |
| arrrghhh | dude... | 16:12 |
| arrrghhh | you simply MUST jump in! | 16:12 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 16:12 |
| emwe | i think nobody is looking into bt, yet. | 16:12 |
| arrrghhh | what device do you have? rhod400? | 16:12 |
| wladston | kernel not much, but I'm doing operating systems at college now | 16:12 |
| arrrghhh | bt seems like it may be build related and not kernel... not sure tho. | 16:12 |
| arrrghhh | oic. | 16:12 |
| wladston | rhod100 I think | 16:12 |
| arrrghhh | rhod100 is gsm. | 16:12 |
| wladston | I'm unsure how to determine the number :) | 16:13 |
| arrrghhh | verizon? | 16:13 |
| wladston | mine is GMS | 16:13 |
| arrrghhh | sprint? | 16:13 |
| wladston | GSM | 16:13 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 16:13 |
| wladston | nope, bought it unlocked from australia | 16:13 |
| arrrghhh | damn, i thought all the gsm phones had the ptt lol | 16:13 |
| wladston | I live in brazil | 16:13 |
| arrrghhh | shows what i know. | 16:13 |
| arrrghhh | nice! | 16:13 |
| arrrghhh | my dad flies there frequently :D | 16:13 |
| arrrghhh | anyhoo, do you know git? | 16:13 |
| wladston | cool :) | 16:13 |
| wladston | well, I know that git serves to clone | 16:13 |
| wladston | not much more :) | 16:13 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:13 |
| arrrghhh | ok | 16:14 |
| arrrghhh | so any linux development experience? | 16:14 |
| emwe | wladston: the number is "readable" when you take out the battery and read what is writtine on the sticker. | 16:14 |
| arrrghhh | linux embedded knowledge seems very helpful here. | 16:14 |
| wladston | emwe: going to read mine now, hold on | 16:14 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: or enough free time and will to get things working ;) | 16:14 |
| arrrghhh | it probably is the 100. i just thought all the gsm ones had the ptt button. perhaps it's just an att thing. | 16:14 |
| arrrghhh | emwe: ha i hear that :P | 16:14 |
| wladston | well, I got some free time | 16:15 |
| wladston | :) | 16:15 |
| arrrghhh | have you cloned the tree yet? | 16:15 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: on the middle of it | 16:15 |
| emwe | shit. i screwed. now phone resets on call... | 16:16 |
| wladston | emwe: I opened my device, but it doesn't have a sticker ... it just says IMEI, S/N and P/N | 16:16 |
| emwe | adn there should be sth like RHODXXX | 16:16 |
| arrrghhh | wladston: there should be a RHODXXX | 16:16 |
| arrrghhh | damnit | 16:16 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 16:16 |
| wladston | nope | 16:16 |
| emwe | heh | 16:16 |
| wladston | oh | 16:17 |
| wladston | got it | 16:17 |
| arrrghhh | it's not very big ;) | 16:17 |
| wladston | it's in a very light gray | 16:17 |
| arrrghhh | that too lol | 16:17 |
| wladston | and it's in print, not in a sticker | 16:17 |
| wladston | yup, RHOD100 | 16:17 |
| wladston | lol, just found out that everything is in a BIG sticker | 16:17 |
| wladston | woa, this repo takes a long to clone! | 16:18 |
| arrrghhh | yea | 16:18 |
| arrrghhh | it's a lot of code. | 16:18 |
| arrrghhh | a couple of lines at least. | 16:18 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: well, no special linux development experience | 16:19 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: but lots of C development experience | 16:19 |
| arrrghhh | cool | 16:19 |
| arrrghhh | well take a look at some of the recent commits. | 16:19 |
| arrrghhh | also, do you know about #htc-linux? | 16:19 |
| arrrghhh | that's where most of the devs hang. | 16:19 |
| wladston | nope | 16:20 |
| wladston | I've been there | 16:20 |
| wladston | but haven't followed the chan | 16:20 |
| wladston | interesting | 16:20 |
| wladston | bookmarking it | 16:20 |
| wladston | :) | 16:20 |
| wladston | gitorious is giving me a 503 now :/ | 16:22 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: must leave for spanish class now, be back later | 16:27 |
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| arrrghhh | ok | 16:41 |
| arrrghhh | have a good one | 16:41 |
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| arrrghhh | ouch | 16:42 |
| arrrghhh | i think my response was respectful JesusFreak316 | 16:43 |
| arrrghhh | i only give people crap that deserve it (imo :P) | 16:43 |
| JesusFreak316 | You never said anything to him though. | 16:44 |
| JesusFreak316 | Some of the other people did deserve it though. | 16:45 |
| arrrghhh | i responded | 16:45 |
| arrrghhh | while you were responding | 16:45 |
| * JesusFreak316 feels special getting his thread on the main news page. :) | 16:45 | |
| arrrghhh | i saw your post after i put mine up. | 16:45 |
| JesusFreak316 | Just saw yours after I put mine up so THERE! | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | haha :P | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | are you talking about your rockbox thread? | 16:46 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah. | 16:46 |
| arrrghhh | ah. back on pg4 now :P very cool tho. | 16:47 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah, I feel like I'm mildly famous on the internets. :) | 16:47 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 16:48 |
| JesusFreak316 | So, haven't been here for a while. Anything significant going on? | 16:48 |
| arrrghhh | eh not really. | 16:48 |
| arrrghhh | more peoples tryin to figure out how to fix the magical disappearing home button. | 16:48 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah, I actually have had that issue for a while. I just set it to end call and I'm pretty much ok. | 16:49 |
| arrrghhh | still don't get the recent apps list, which is what most are upset about. | 16:50 |
| JesusFreak316 | Exactly | 16:50 |
| Aks | camro: it was the latest system.ext2 I downloaded seperately whihc was preventing from booting up | 16:50 |
| JesusFreak316 | I had the issue before the 10/25 build though. | 16:50 |
| JesusFreak316 | I haven't updated rootfs for a little while though. | 16:51 |
| JesusFreak316 | Week or 2. | 16:51 |
| arrrghhh | Aks: did you create a new data.img? | 16:51 |
| arrrghhh | usually with system changes you _must_ do that... | 16:52 |
| JesusFreak316 | The main problem with the home button for me is I can't use this: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/use-itching-thumb-to-multitask-in-android/ :( | 16:52 |
| Aks | arrrghhh: no using the old one as I have a lot of apps I downloaded - how do you IM only one person from web version of chat ? | 16:52 |
| JesusFreak316 | That thing must be amazing on faster devices. It's sluggish but still nice on our devices. | 16:52 |
| arrrghhh | /msg like you would any other irc? | 16:53 |
| arrrghhh | hrm, never seen that JesusFreak316 | 16:53 |
| JesusFreak316 | msg fail | 16:53 |
| JesusFreak316 | It's pretty cool. | 16:53 |
| arrrghhh | yea, looks slick. | 16:53 |
| JesusFreak316 | Pretty much WebOS multitasking. | 16:53 |
| arrrghhh | i almost don't want to look at all the cool things android has | 16:53 |
| arrrghhh | because it pisses me off :P | 16:53 |
| JesusFreak316 | Why? | 16:54 |
| arrrghhh | cuz winmo sucks. | 16:54 |
| arrrghhh | & i can't android full-time. | 16:54 |
| arrrghhh | there was a use in there somewhere i thought. | 16:54 |
| JesusFreak316 | When are you gonna get a full android phone? | 16:54 |
| arrrghhh | dunno. | 16:54 |
| arrrghhh | don't really like any of the ones for sprint. | 16:54 |
| JesusFreak316 | I like the epic 4g alot personally. | 16:54 |
| arrrghhh | eh | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | kbd isn't so great. | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | and samsung build quality... | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | i LOVE my tp2. granted there's some things it's missing | 16:55 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah, I much prefer HTC. | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | and it's using very outdated hardware. | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | but the keyboard cannot be beat. | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | i thought the bendy screen would just be a cheesy gimmick, but i use it every day. | 16:55 |
| JesusFreak316 | Outdated hardware? Hummingbird is one of the best SoC's out there atm. | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | besides, i can wait. | 16:56 |
| arrrghhh | tp2 using outdated hardware my friend, not the epic ;) | 16:56 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah, just noticed that. | 16:56 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 16:56 |
| JesusFreak316 | Definitely outdated. :) | 16:56 |
| arrrghhh | yea, considering they didn't touch any of the internals from the raph... retarded. | 16:56 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah, it is weird. | 16:56 |
| arrrghhh | the guy in the sprint store didn't believe me when i told him that | 16:57 |
| arrrghhh | his reasoning: "the tp2 just feels so much faster than the tp1"... | 16:57 |
| JesusFreak316 | I'm waiting for Verizon LTE, tiered data, and how hackable WP7 ends up being. | 16:57 |
| JesusFreak316 | Derp | 16:57 |
| arrrghhh | good luck dude. | 16:57 |
| arrrghhh | knowing microsoft tho, they'll leave some giant loophole. | 16:57 |
| arrrghhh | so perhaps it will be hackable :P | 16:57 |
| arrrghhh | lte sounds cool. tiered data does not. | 16:57 |
| JesusFreak316 | If the iPhone can be Jailbroken this should be able to. | 16:58 |
| arrrghhh | sprint is going to have to pry this plan from my cold dead hands. | 16:58 |
| JesusFreak316 | Tiered data's nice when you can't afford $30 but I know you have some ridiculous plan. We've discussed this already. :) | 16:58 |
| arrrghhh | yea lol | 16:59 |
| arrrghhh | i just wouldn't want to worry about overages. | 16:59 |
| arrrghhh | people keep saying w/tiered data unlimited will be no more. | 16:59 |
| JesusFreak316 | Yeah, but I've resigned myself to it. | 16:59 |
| JesusFreak316 | Throttling would be infinitely better. | 16:59 |
| arrrghhh | lol i couldn't. especially when i do go full android. | 17:00 |
| arrrghhh | i'm going to be using subsonic like all day. | 17:00 |
| JesusFreak316 | Well, you have no reason to go to tiered. You should stay grandfathered into unlimited. | 17:00 |
| arrrghhh | hopefully. | 17:01 |
| arrrghhh | sprint i don't think is planning what vzn is either. | 17:01 |
| arrrghhh | at least they haven't talked about it, or i just haven't seen anything about it either way :P | 17:01 |
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| JesusFreak316 | The only reason I don't want an Android native phone is because I know sooner or later it will be ported to the most popular WP7 phones along with Meego. | 17:04 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:04 |
| arrrghhh | you sure about that? | 17:04 |
| arrrghhh | you seem pretty sure. | 17:04 |
| arrrghhh | besides, i'd be happy with just android. wp7 looks... bleh. | 17:05 |
| Reefermattness | yup | 17:05 |
| Reefermattness | :) | 17:05 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not a 'social' person tho, so all the stupid 'social' features i don't care about. | 17:05 |
| arrrghhh | haha what's up reef. | 17:05 |
| JesusFreak316 | I want WP7 if they can enable legacy WM6 apps, multitasking, filebrowser, etc. | 17:05 |
| JesusFreak316 | I pretty much want WM6 with the WP7 interface and CE7 kernel. | 17:06 |
| arrrghhh | ce6 | 17:06 |
| arrrghhh | but yea | 17:06 |
| JesusFreak316 | I'm pretty sure it's ce7. ZuneHD is ce6. | 17:06 |
| arrrghhh | well windows 7 uses a kernel that's 6.1 | 17:06 |
| arrrghhh | what does that tell you :P | 17:06 |
| JesusFreak316 | Nothing. | 17:06 |
| arrrghhh | well, that microsoft seems to label stuff like that. | 17:07 |
| arrrghhh | wackily | 17:07 |
| JesusFreak316 | It's been rumored both ways for so long though... | 17:07 |
| arrrghhh | although versioning of any app seems wacky. | 17:07 |
| arrrghhh | they just seem to pick numbers, it doesn't really matter. | 17:07 |
| arrrghhh | freakin cisco unity went from v2 to v7. | 17:07 |
| arrrghhh | skipped a few #'s there. | 17:07 |
| JesusFreak316 | Not as bad as Nvidia. Hey, we did a die shrink, let's announce a new series of GPU's! | 17:08 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:08 |
| arrrghhh | hooray rebranding old crap! | 17:08 |
| arrrghhh | hrmm... kinda reminds me of the tp2. just a little sneakier rebranding, because it looks like a completely different phone lol | 17:08 |
| JesusFreak316 | Also, for WP7 I am waiting for some better CPU's. It's all 1st gen snapdragons atm. | 17:12 |
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| Aks | when is the BLAZN build coming up | 17:19 |
| JesusFreak316 | ^This. I need to finally get around to trying one of those. Come one reefer. :) | 17:21 |
| emwe | gnight | 17:21 |
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| Aks | \msg arrrghhh: google maps is not working | 17:31 |
| Aks | gps on that | 17:31 |
| Aks | cannot find current location | 17:31 |
| arrrghhh | are you outside? | 17:32 |
| arrrghhh | Reefermattness: ignore them :D | 17:33 |
| arrrghhh | Aks: do your due diligence. | 17:33 |
| arrrghhh | make sure quickgps in winmo has very current data - newer the better. | 17:33 |
| Reefermattness | Aks: soon Im building the new XDAndroid Reference right now. | 17:34 |
| arrrghhh | make sure you have a CLEAR view of the sky. no big buildings in the way. | 17:34 |
| arrrghhh | assuming those things have been completed, gps should lock on fairly quickly. | 17:34 |
| Aks | cool !! no I am inside my office | 17:34 |
| arrrghhh | dude... | 17:34 |
| arrrghhh | c'mon. | 17:34 |
| Reefermattness | I love my google tv :) | 17:34 |
| Aks | it used to pick up very easily | 17:34 |
| arrrghhh | Reefermattness: you got that magic already? :P | 17:34 |
| arrrghhh | Aks: gps indoors is very hit or miss. | 17:35 |
| Aks | ok | 17:35 |
| Reefermattness | Logitech Revue yeah | 17:35 |
| Aks | thx | 17:35 |
| Reefermattness | its freaking amazing | 17:35 |
| Aks | i will try when outside | 17:35 |
| arrrghhh | sometimes i can get a lock in less than a minute, sometimes i get nothing. | 17:35 |
| Reefermattness | and there is an android app to control it already | 17:35 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: back! | 17:35 |
| arrrghhh | Reefermattness: nice. | 17:35 |
| arrrghhh | wladston: how was spanish class? :P | 17:35 |
| arrrghhh | Reefermattness: nice. when i saw the hardware in it, i don't see why it's $300... | 17:35 |
| Aks | wladston: it will be tough class as that is a spanish speaking place | 17:36 |
| arrrghhh | wel | 17:36 |
| arrrghhh | not really | 17:36 |
| arrrghhh | brazilian portugese. | 17:36 |
| Aks | oh my bad :P | 17:36 |
| arrrghhh | yea, they don't speak spanish (well, not as a whole) in brazil ;) | 17:36 |
| arrrghhh | portugal used to have that country as a territory... did you not know that? | 17:37 |
| Reefermattness | arrrghhh: wireless mouse/keyboard combo is $100 | 17:37 |
| Reefermattness | so the box is only $200 | 17:37 |
| arrrghhh | Reefermattness: ah i didn't realize those were separate. | 17:37 |
| Reefermattness | and its wireless N build in, so take another $100 off | 17:37 |
| Reefermattness | they are not seperate, im just breaking down how i justified it to myself | 17:37 |
| Reefermattness | :) | 17:37 |
| arrrghhh | LOL | 17:38 |
| arrrghhh | fair enough. | 17:38 |
| arrrghhh | don't get me wrong, it does look cool. | 17:38 |
| Aks | but I heard the major networks have blocked googleTV ? | 17:38 |
| arrrghhh | but i don't have any paid-for tv service so it doesn't make much sense for me. | 17:38 |
| Reefermattness | once we get an app store next year its got a 5gb internal flash | 17:38 |
| arrrghhh | nice. | 17:38 |
| Reefermattness | soon it will be incorperated like tivo where you can click things on the screen. | 17:39 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: was reading the logs ... caughting up the talk :) | 17:39 |
| Reefermattness | or it could flop | 17:39 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: the class was great | 17:39 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: learned the conditional form of the verb | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | lol either way, it looks like a cool interface. | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | wladston: sounds thrilling... :P | 17:39 |
| wladston | arrrghhh we study that portugal hostory over 100000 times in school in here | 17:40 |
| wladston | *history | 17:40 |
| arrrghhh | wladston: yes i'm sure you do. Aks has not :P | 17:40 |
| wladston | well, the git cloned | 17:40 |
| arrrghhh | that's good | 17:40 |
| wladston | git is out of 503 | 17:41 |
| wladston | :) | 17:41 |
| stinebd | 503? was gitorious down again? | 17:41 |
| wladston | when I left it was down | 17:42 |
| stinebd | nice | 17:42 |
| wladston | it's up again | 17:42 |
| stinebd | i love gitorious. it keeps things interesting. | 17:42 |
| wladston | I'm getting to know it today | 17:43 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 17:43 |
| wladston | was more familiarized with gitgub | 17:43 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd: we may have a new C dev :D | 17:43 |
| stinebd | This Month's Network Transfer Pool 300GB Quota, 300GB Used, 0GB Remaining | 17:43 |
| wladston | :D | 17:43 |
| arrrghhh | awwwww | 17:43 |
| arrrghhh | you gettin shut down stinebd ? | 17:43 |
| Aks | wish I cud get in on developing, but hv exp only in managing Websphere n Weblogic servers on unix n writing shell scripts ... wud like to start learning from you guys tho | 17:44 |
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| stinebd | no, they automatically charge me the overage | 17:44 |
| arrrghhh | damn.. | 17:44 |
| stinebd | i sent a notice to developers@xdandroid that i'm going to pull the overage out of the paypal account | 17:44 |
| wladston | else you could switch ip too | 17:44 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't leak anything this month :S | 17:44 |
| stinebd | i'll be real happy when the incremental update infrastructure is in place | 17:45 |
| stinebd | 20-30MB files and they can all be sent out via the coral cdn | 17:46 |
| stinebd | which means they download fast for most people regardless of location and my provder doesn't lynch me | 17:47 |
| wladston | :/ | 17:50 |
| wladston | http://kanged.net/mirror/gapps/gapps-mdpi-FRF91-3-signed.zip is 404 | 17:50 |
| stinebd | are you using the wiki build procedures? | 17:50 |
| stinebd | if so, reload | 17:51 |
| wladston | yup | 17:51 |
| wladston | ok | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd: why don't you host the actual system image elsewhere...? | 17:51 |
| wladston | thanks :) | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | i know you hold an unweildy hatred for multiupload, but it really is pretty nice. | 17:52 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: we do, but it was serving it geographically | 17:52 |
| stinebd | normally it wouldn't be a problem, but that stuff from earlier this month blew away too much bandwidth | 17:52 |
| arrrghhh | oic | 17:52 |
| stinebd | we don't need any file sharing services, xland gives us supposedly unlimited transfer | 17:53 |
| wladston | hummm ... also, the script expects | 17:53 |
| wladston | signed-dream_devphone_userdebug-ota-14721 | 17:53 |
| wladston | but the lastest is the signed-dream_devphone_userdebug-img-150275. | 17:53 |
| wladston | signed-dream_devphone_userdebug-ota-150275 | 17:54 |
| stinebd | no | 17:54 |
| wladston | wooops | 17:54 |
| wladston | my bad | 17:54 |
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| wladston | stinebd: is this error expected ? "zip error: Nothing to do! (*.apk)" | 18:00 |
| wladston | when calling unzip-files.sh -g ? | 18:00 |
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| * wladston makes xdandroid! :) | 18:03 | |
| stinebd | i don't think that's expected | 18:03 |
| wladston | yeah ... my make didn't go thru | 18:04 |
| wladston | make: *** No rule to make target `out/target/product/generic/obj/lib/librpc.so', needed by `out/target/product/generic/obj/SHARED_LIBRARIES/libhardware_legacy_intermediates/LINKED/libhardware_legacy.so'. Stop. | 18:04 |
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| wladston | oh, bit | 18:05 |
| wladston | but | 18:05 |
| wladston | I didn't write the buildspec | 18:05 |
| * wladston wonders what is a full_msm and where to find it | 18:06 | |
| wladston | stinebd: what is an msm, and where can I find it ? | 18:08 |
| stinebd | uh | 18:08 |
| stinebd | http://www.qualcomm.com/products_services/chipsets/mobile_processors.html | 18:09 |
| wladston | stinebd: still wonder what I have to place on TARGET_PRODUCT ... :/ could you give more info on that ? | 18:10 |
| stinebd | http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Build_Configuration | 18:10 |
| stinebd | just copy the box verbatim... | 18:11 |
| wladston | oh | 18:11 |
| wladston | I thought I was supposed to replace that | 18:11 |
| wladston | :) | 18:11 |
| wladston | thanks! | 18:11 |
| * wladston waits for the build | 18:17 | |
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| wladston | arrrghhh: hey :) still compiling the first build here | 19:12 |
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| wladston | stinebd: made the repo, placed the system.img on \andboot - it worked :) but there are several missing apps | 20:09 |
| wladston | comparing to the pre-compiled build | 20:09 |
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| wladston | stinebd: how can I build your "Stinebd's AOSP Linux Android Kitchen" that is available on the sites.google.com/site/androidport ? | 20:17 |
| JesusFreak316 | You check the build tutorials here: http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Main_Page? | 20:18 |
| JesusFreak316 | Whoops, here http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Main_Page | 20:18 |
| wladston | JesusFreak316: I've made the build | 20:19 |
| wladston | but it's missing a lot of applications | 20:19 |
| JesusFreak316 | Ah, just getting the obvious out of the way. | 20:19 |
| JesusFreak316 | You'd be surprised how many people don't do the obvious. :) | 20:20 |
| wladston | like "youtube", "google maps", "drive" | 20:20 |
| wladston | sure :) | 20:20 |
| wladston | they are available on the pre-made build | 20:20 |
| wladston | JesusFreak316: the main reasion I'm building is to get back the home key too you know :) | 20:21 |
| JesusFreak316 | :) | 20:21 |
| wladston | JesusFreak316: but I also intend to try to help to implement the remaining features | 20:21 |
| JesusFreak316 | You think you know what the cause is? Haven't been on here much lately. | 20:22 |
| wladston | the cause for what ? | 20:22 |
| JesusFreak316 | Home key malfunction. | 20:22 |
| stinebd | the home key is not handled by anything in the system image. those keymaps are in the rootfs. | 20:23 |
| JesusFreak316 | I think Reefer adds the gapps manually, as they aren't open source. | 20:23 |
| stinebd | wladston: missing gapps is likely related to that error you had in unzip-files.sh | 20:23 |
| wladston | stinebd: right, thanks! | 20:24 |
| stinebd | the cause for the home key "malfunction" is that we do not have a home key mapped now | 20:24 |
| stinebd | in the kernel, the power key used to generate a KEY_HOME scancode (self-explanatory). it was recently changed to KEY_POWER. | 20:24 |
| JesusFreak316 | stinebd: That would do it. :) What happened? It worked for a couple rootfs's ago. | 20:25 |
| JesusFreak316 | Oh. | 20:25 |
| stinebd | rhodium simply does not have enough buttons | 20:25 |
| wladston | true fact | 20:25 |
| JesusFreak316 | So, what do you leave out on Rhodium? | 20:25 |
| stinebd | home | 20:26 |
| stinebd | duh. | 20:26 |
| wladston | stinebd: my main goal is to map the rear mute to home | 20:26 |
| JesusFreak316 | Sorry. :P | 20:26 |
| stinebd | wladston: we can't do that | 20:26 |
| stinebd | because not all rhodiums have that button | 20:26 |
| stinebd | you can do it in a personal fork of rootfs if you'd like, but we wouldn't be able to use that in official releases | 20:27 |
| wladston | stinebd: the ones that do have could get the map, the ones that don't could ignore the map ... what would be the problem with this setup ? | 20:27 |
| stinebd | the problem would be that we still have a large group of rhodium users with no home key. | 20:28 |
| stinebd | right now the best option we have is to use the zoom bar as an extra key or two | 20:28 |
| wladston | stinebd: well, if we do this at least we reduce the number of users with no home button, without affecting the others | 20:28 |
| stinebd | and as things are right now, the only option is to have users manually map their end call key to go home | 20:29 |
| wladston | the zoom bar! I didn't thought that could be mapped too | 20:29 |
| JesusFreak316 | I agree with wladston, or do you think you might be able to find something for all Rhodiums? | 20:29 |
| stinebd | all rhodiums have the zoom bar | 20:29 |
| wladston | well, why not map the home to the zoom bar ? we know the keycode that triggers it ? | 20:29 |
| stinebd | it's handled by the touchscreen driver. (it's part of the touchscreen hardware) | 20:30 |
| JesusFreak316 | Is the zoom bar not that useful? | 20:30 |
| stinebd | implementation would be nontrivial | 20:30 |
| wladston | stinebd: cool :) got a new goal now | 20:30 |
| wladston | let me just try to fix my build here | 20:30 |
| * wladston creates wiki account, will make minor edits | 20:30 | |
| JesusFreak316 | I don't see why Rhodium doesn't have enough buttons when the evo only has 4 buttons also. Are hardware start and end call keys necessary? | 20:30 |
| wladston | evo has 4 buttons ? where did they put the home key ??!?!?!? | 20:31 |
| stinebd | leo? | 20:31 |
| JesusFreak316 | They have home, menu, back, and search. | 20:31 |
| JesusFreak316 | evo that is. | 20:31 |
| wladston | hummmm | 20:31 |
| wladston | call gets a hardware button only | 20:32 |
| stinebd | i believe the rhodium's proximity sensor doesn't work in android yet | 20:32 |
| wladston | some people reported it was working | 20:32 |
| wladston | I think it doesn't work for me | 20:32 |
| JesusFreak316 | What does proximity sensor have to do with those buttons? | 20:33 |
| wladston | was going to ask that too | 20:33 |
| wladston | :) | 20:33 |
| stinebd | well | 20:33 |
| stinebd | without hardware end call, you'd need to use the screen to hang up | 20:33 |
| wladston | hummm right | 20:33 |
| JesusFreak316 | Ah, and you might accidentally hang up and it would just be a pain. | 20:33 |
| stinebd | well what i'm getting at is that we've got problems waking the screen during calls as it is | 20:34 |
| stinebd | and without a working prox sensor, you have to fight with the navipad/keyboard slider to get the screen on | 20:34 |
| JesusFreak316 | So, if we (you :) theoretically got proximity sensor working on all devices we could get rid of those buttons? | 20:34 |
| stinebd | on all rhodiums? it might help | 20:34 |
| wladston | hummm | 20:35 |
| stinebd | (and topaz) | 20:35 |
| wladston | that could be my new goal | 20:35 |
| wladston | to do it for the rhodiums | 20:35 |
| JesusFreak316 | What about Blackstone? | 20:35 |
| stinebd | does it have a prox sensor? | 20:35 |
| JesusFreak316 | Idk. | 20:36 |
| stinebd | i rather doubt it | 20:36 |
| JesusFreak316 | Does RAPH not? | 20:36 |
| JesusFreak316 | I guess I'm just thinking of light sensor. | 20:36 |
| stinebd | raph doesn't | 20:36 |
| stinebd | rhod is the only one that i know for sure has one | 20:36 |
| wladston | as for a longer term goal, maybe an app that lets you manually map your buttons the way you like on execution time | 20:36 |
| JesusFreak316 | That would be AMAZING. | 20:37 |
| JesusFreak316 | Well, I'm getting off. My class is over now. :) | 20:37 |
| wladston | ttyl, JesusFreak316 | 20:38 |
| wladston | stinebd: I can't edit the wiki ... where can I drop "edit suggestions" ? | 20:39 |
| stinebd | developers@xdandroid.com | 20:39 |
| stinebd | the wiki is read only to combat spam | 20:39 |
| wladston | email sent | 20:40 |
| stinebd | what do you want to edit? | 20:41 |
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| wladston | minor edition, where it says : | 20:45 |
| wladston | "As root, create a new file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ named jaunty." | 20:45 |
| wladston | it would be best to say | 20:45 |
| wladston | "As root, create a new file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ named jaunty.list ." | 20:45 |
| wladston | because newer apt-get software will not accept filenames without the .list extension | 20:45 |
| stinebd | done | 20:48 |
| stinebd | please don't deface, etc. | 20:49 |
| wladston | sure :) | 20:53 |
| wladston | stinebd: found a problem on unzip-files.sh | 20:56 |
| wladston | stinebd: on line 14 | 20:56 |
| wladston | it should be | 20:56 |
| wladston | if [ "$1" == "-g" ] | 20:56 |
| wladston | ops | 20:56 |
| wladston | it should be | 20:57 |
| wladston | if [ "$1" = "-g" ] | 20:57 |
| wladston | would you like me to make a path and commit ? | 20:57 |
| stinebd | uh no | 20:57 |
| wladston | ? | 20:57 |
| wladston | with == it gives this error : | 20:57 |
| wladston | [: 22: ==: unexpected operator | 20:58 |
| stinebd | works fine for me | 20:58 |
| wladston | hummm ... checking the docs, it should work here too | 20:59 |
| wladston | with shell you do you use ? | 20:59 |
| stinebd | bash | 20:59 |
| wladston | well, either that or ubuntu's shell is broken | 21:00 |
| wladston | it doesn't enter the if | 21:00 |
| wladston | unless I remove the == for = | 21:01 |
| stinebd | ubuntu uses bourne shell? | 21:02 |
| wladston | stinebd: idk | 21:02 |
| wladston | found this text : | 21:02 |
| wladston | [ "$var" == "find" ] && echo "found" | 21:02 |
| wladston | Shell script can't assign variable values in conditional constructs so the double equals is redundant. Moreover it gives a syntax error on older busybox (ash) and dash at least, so avoid it. | 21:02 |
| stinebd | sigh | 21:03 |
| wladston | the terminal says "GNOME Terminal 2.32.0" | 21:03 |
| stinebd | yes, dash would be the shell ubuntu uses | 21:03 |
| stinebd | stupid distro | 21:03 |
| wladston | well, not just for me, I think it would be better to change it for = of -eq for the sake of portability | 21:04 |
| wladston | = *or -eq | 21:04 |
| stinebd | pushed | 21:04 |
| wladston | :) cool | 21:05 |
| stinebd | -eq isn't as portable btw, since it requires [[, typically associated with bash and not guaranteed present on all POSIX systems | 21:07 |
| stinebd | otherwise you get unary expression errors with [ | 21:07 |
| wladston | nice to know | 21:07 |
| wladston | now I have to figure out how to pull | 21:08 |
| stinebd | repo sync | 21:08 |
| stinebd | in the aosp root | 21:08 |
| wladston | stinebd: thanks :) | 21:08 |
| stinebd | good to know it still boots without google apps installed. i haven't tested that case in a long time | 21:14 |
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| wladston | :) | 21:19 |
| wladston | making the new build here | 21:19 |
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| wladston | stinebd: made the build, it's working | 22:36 |
| wladston | stinebd: it just lost the association with my google account | 22:36 |
| wladston | arrrghhh: hey man :) I think my build environment is ok now | 22:36 |
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| wladston | stinebd: I'm trying to find instructions for building the rootfs, but I've found none. Do you think that a page describing how to build the rootfs on the wiki is a good addition ? | 22:55 |
| wladston | stinebd: the rootfs repo is complaning about a missing default.xml file | 23:04 |
| wladston | could anyone help me checkout and build the rootfs repo from git ? | 23:34 |
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| wladston | arrrghhh: can you help me checkout and build the rootfs repo from git ? | 23:55 |
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