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| TheDeadCPU | <erno> hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is. | 01:20 |
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| Abishek | Hi All, I wanted to know how is the performance of the XDAndroid 2.2 on the HTC Diamond phone. Is there any links that you can let me know where I can get this info... | 02:31 |
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| Chilion | morning all :) | 03:40 |
| Chilion | XirXes: iknow u | 03:40 |
| Chilion | playing travian? | 03:40 |
| Chilion | havn a little trouble down here with ma phon | 03:45 |
| Chilion | used the SD card fix | 03:45 |
| Chilion | but, when i push music, it says, there is no sd card | 03:45 |
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| camro | phh: still online ? | 04:44 |
| Chilion | im online yeah | 05:00 |
| Chilion | camro, u? | 05:00 |
| Chilion | ooh, sorry, u wr pointing to phh | 05:00 |
| camro | :) | 05:00 |
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| Chilion | weird thing | 05:25 |
| Chilion | camro: still here? | 05:25 |
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| Chilion | someone | 06:55 |
| Chilion | knows why my service is falling away sometimes? | 06:55 |
| Chilion | really it sucks | 07:21 |
| Chilion | my service :p | 07:21 |
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| WizzKidd | when compiling an android kernel, and using "make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=/arm-cs-tools/bin/arm-none-eabi-" (and not specifying zImage), this will make the entire kernel and modules i beleive. I found the compiled kernel zImage sitting in "/linux-msm/arch/arm/boot" but where are the modules? | 09:46 |
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| arrrghhh | there wasn't much. gtalk was added back in, hdpi was added for gapps & for the system. | 10:22 |
| arrrghhh | netloc works for gsm (which doesn't matter for us) | 10:23 |
| arrrghhh | dialpad fitment is fixed. | 10:23 |
| NeoMatrixJR | hdpi...ok, remind me what that was again. I've seen the term before. | 10:24 |
| arrrghhh | basically better display resolution as i understand it | 10:24 |
| arrrghhh | mdpi is raph, hdpi is rhod basically. | 10:24 |
| arrrghhh | we were always using mdpi which isn't optimized for our displays. | 10:25 |
| NeoMatrixJR | ah. so then does our stuff from the startup.txt matter anymore? | 10:25 |
| NeoMatrixJR | the 240 setting? | 10:25 |
| NeoMatrixJR | (I think it's 240...not looking right now) | 10:25 |
| arrrghhh | i actually saw something on my startup once that said that option was obsolete basically | 10:26 |
| arrrghhh | never confirmed it tho | 10:26 |
| arrrghhh | 240 s/b for our phones | 10:26 |
| arrrghhh | according to reef lol | 10:26 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I took it out once and it messed with a bunch of apps, so I'm pretty sure at least through FRX01 you still need it | 10:27 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 10:27 |
| NeoMatrixJR | it may be obsolete, but if it's removed an incorrect default may take it's place? | 10:27 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not sure, like i said i never confrimed it. | 10:27 |
| arrrghhh | well if it is truly obsolete, it shouldn't matter AFAIK | 10:28 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not even sure who would confirm that lol | 10:28 |
| NeoMatrixJR | I had a bunch of apps leave about 1/4 inch black space around sides and bottom of screen when I removed it | 10:28 |
| arrrghhh | yea probably went to 210 | 10:29 |
| arrrghhh | i noticed that when i changed mine to 210. | 10:29 |
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| JimboJoe | hi there | 11:27 |
| JimboJoe | camro: you here? | 11:27 |
| camro | yes | 11:27 |
| JimboJoe | I saw your post about my RHOD100 long post | 11:27 |
| JimboJoe | I answered on the forum | 11:27 |
| JimboJoe | I can't see what I did wrong | 11:27 |
| camro | 1.) battery should be almost empty | 11:28 |
| camro | 2.) charge via USV ~30min | 11:28 |
| camro | 3.) charge via AC ~3-4hrs | 11:28 |
| camro | 4. plugout cable + always screen on | 11:28 |
| camro | and let run device out of battery | 11:28 |
| camro | best would beif it is set via vol_min=15 / vol_max=90 | 11:29 |
| JimboJoe | well, then there seems to be hickup on your post #2 | 11:29 |
| JimboJoe | you say AC 30 min and USB 3 hours | 11:29 |
| JimboJoe | moreover, my RHOD100 discharges itself when plugged to USB... | 11:30 |
| camro | ok, corrected | 11:31 |
| JimboJoe | ok, then you say "(preconditions: best would be if the phone is 0% - 50%)", just state if it is MANDATORY :-) | 11:32 |
| JimboJoe | is that normal that my phone discharges when plugged to USB? | 11:32 |
| camro | is not mandatory | 11:32 |
| JimboJoe | ok | 11:33 |
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| Aks | hey guys | 12:39 |
| Aks | interesting news | 12:39 |
| Aks | T-Mobile G2 overclocked to 1.4GHz, starts blitzing benchmarks (video) | 12:40 |
| TheDeadCPU | niz | 12:40 |
| TheDeadCPU | It's the same UNDERCLOCKED 1.2GHz that is in the Desire HD | 12:41 |
| Aks | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5LvjlE4Vyc | 12:41 |
| Aks | I am going for that now !!! | 12:42 |
| Aks | 2400 on Quad | 12:44 |
| hamagc | wow nice, 1.4 | 12:51 |
| hamagc | now hwo to get my tp to hit 1.4 lol | 12:51 |
| Aks | LOL | 12:51 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 12:53 |
| Aks | how high can the TP2 go ? did anybody try higher that 768? | 12:54 |
| TheDeadCPU | no | 12:55 |
| TheDeadCPU | it died on 768 afaik | 12:55 |
| Aks | ok | 12:57 |
| Aks | another piece of news which will shake up development | 13:00 |
| Aks | Gingerbread is coming out in December | 13:00 |
| TheDeadCPU | NO WAY?! :o | 13:01 |
| TheDeadCPU | I kinda figured that out in may since it's Gingerbread. | 13:01 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 13:01 |
| TheDeadCPU | But yea, is it official? | 13:01 |
| Aks | its coming out on tablets - i belv there should be official release asociated with that | 13:02 |
| Aks | http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/20/android-3-0-due-to-start-hitting-tablets-in-december-ahead-of-ja/ | 13:02 |
| WizzKidd | could someone point me to the git for the 2010 (latest) ARM toolchain please? | 13:32 |
| TheDeadCPU | no | 13:32 |
| WizzKidd | i was recommended to use a toolchain "arm-2010xxxx" yesterday, but i cant find the log :( | 13:34 |
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| camro | stinebd: the 15% battery warning ... i'm not really happy with that | 13:40 |
| camro | example: if the device on the line of 15% and jumping between 14-16% (related to battery consume) | 13:40 |
| camro | if the battery current is very different (related how much apps are running and what the user do ..), then it could be that it jumps between 14 - 16% | 13:42 |
| camro | and all the time i get the warning ...not funny | 13:42 |
| NetZer0 | Hey everyone! :) I just wanted to ask about when we may expect the next release for Topaz? For your convenience, I donated some bucks for your development. :D | 13:43 |
| camro | ? | 13:46 |
| camro | NetZer0 ?: what do you mean ? | 13:47 |
| camro | what about your are talking ? | 13:47 |
| NetZer0 | xdandroid :) | 13:47 |
| camro | where are my bucks :) ? | 13:48 |
| NetZer0 | I just wanted to know when the next "ready-to-install"-bundle will be ready | 13:48 |
| NetZer0 | Well, I dunno, for some strange reason I'm not on the donors list yet :P | 13:48 |
| NetZer0 | The last is from 3rd September | 13:49 |
| camro | i'm also not on any list :) | 13:49 |
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| Skyguy_ | hi all. Quick question... If i replace rootfs, should i delete my data file? | 14:59 |
| TheDeadCPU | no | 15:03 |
| Skyguy_ | thanks | 15:04 |
| CazH | Hi :) | 15:04 |
| TheDeadCPU | Hi CazH | 15:05 |
| CazH | whats up to night? :) | 15:05 |
| TheDeadCPU | Going to sleep now | 15:05 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 15:05 |
| CazH | lol :P | 15:05 |
| Skyguy_ | trying to figure out what the latest rootfs update changes | 15:05 |
| TheDeadCPU | I've decided to actually be awake at school.. | 15:05 |
| camro | mapping of keys | 15:05 |
| CazH | TheDeadCPU: had 3½ hours of sleep last night and 4 hours of overtime today feeling like I should go to sleep :S | 15:06 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 15:06 |
| TheDeadCPU | Sounds about right | 15:07 |
| CazH | Overtime because of stupid norweign people running around all day :( | 15:07 |
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| TheDeadCPU | CazH, what did my people do now? | 15:07 |
| CazH | Running around asking stupid question and having other stupid norwegians doing repairs in the past badly! | 15:08 |
| TheDeadCPU | ah | 15:08 |
| TheDeadCPU | Being all barbarian then? | 15:08 |
| CazH | Following the documentation is not something you guys do? | 15:08 |
| TheDeadCPU | Documentation? | 15:08 |
| TheDeadCPU | wat is dat | 15:08 |
| TheDeadCPU | Why would we? that takes more time | 15:09 |
| CazH | Well we got a bunch of it, but there is stuff missing, and other stuff doesn't fit :S | 15:09 |
| TheDeadCPU | Use a hammer. | 15:09 |
| CazH | The hammer was busy else where =/ | 15:10 |
| TheDeadCPU | A sledgehammer then | 15:10 |
| CazH | Hehe doesn't help on stuff wired wrong :S | 15:11 |
| TheDeadCPU | OFC it does | 15:11 |
| CazH | Well if i'm lucky I only have about 3 hours of overtime tomorrow =/ | 15:13 |
| TheDeadCPU | Well. | 15:15 |
| TheDeadCPU | You get paid | 15:15 |
| TheDeadCPU | I fix cars on school, and the teachers get the money I should have earned. | 15:15 |
| CazH | haha | 15:16 |
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| TheDeadCPU | CazH, the teachers have DOUBLE salary when we fix cars lol | 15:28 |
| TheDeadCPU | They have lik 500nok per hour then | 15:28 |
| TheDeadCPU | no over 600 | 15:28 |
| CazH | Haha | 15:28 |
| TheDeadCPU | I hate it | 15:28 |
| TheDeadCPU | No wonder one of them drives a M6 | 15:28 |
| CazH | Damm, it's not like the prices for cars in norway is cheap :P | 15:29 |
| TheDeadCPU | nope lol | 15:29 |
| TheDeadCPU | And one of them has a PERFECT '53 BMW Isetta | 15:31 |
| CazH | damm | 15:31 |
| TheDeadCPU | Doesn't drive it though lol | 15:31 |
| CazH | lol | 15:31 |
| CazH | whats the point then? | 15:32 |
| TheDeadCPU | He's a BMW collecter. | 15:32 |
| TheDeadCPU | He's got like 8 M3s | 15:32 |
| CazH | wtf, teachers must earn good money in norway | 15:32 |
| TheDeadCPU | They earn about 350nok per hour | 15:33 |
| TheDeadCPU | AND they get just as much vacation as student.. PAID | 15:33 |
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| CazH | not bad | 15:35 |
| TheDeadCPU | AFTER taxes. | 15:35 |
| CazH | thats just cheating! | 15:35 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 15:35 |
| TheDeadCPU | And these guys get Teacher AND mechanics salary | 15:35 |
| CazH | wtf that must be like over 9000? | 15:36 |
| CazH | :P | 15:36 |
| arrrghhh | hrm... so i should go teach how to fix cars in norway. duly noted. | 15:36 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 15:37 |
| CazH | arrrghhh: remeber they also has loads of pretty, stupid, easy girls there too ;) | 15:38 |
| arrrghhh | LOL oh i haven't forgotten that. | 15:38 |
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| CazH | TheDeadCPU: We are sending a train back to oslo friday, thinking about hiding in it? :P | 15:38 |
| TheDeadCPU | hmm | 15:39 |
| CazH | maybe I can write it up as OT? :P | 15:40 |
| TheDeadCPU | OT? | 15:40 |
| CazH | overtime ;) | 15:40 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 15:41 |
| TheDeadCPU | Hide in the train, ship it to Norway, lend my couch for a few weeks while you pick up random easy chicks? | 15:41 |
| TheDeadCPU | And put it all as OT? | 15:41 |
| CazH | to the top secret very special channel | 15:41 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 15:42 |
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| TheDeadCPU | Gnite people. | 16:32 |
| TheDeadCPU | CazH, go sleep | 16:32 |
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| stinebd | [13:40:06] <camro> stinebd: the 15% battery warning ... i'm not really happy with that << file a bug with google | 16:51 |
| stinebd | or fix your driver :P | 16:51 |
| camro | hehe | 16:52 |
| camro | hi stinebd :) | 16:52 |
| camro | how is going ? | 16:52 |
| stinebd | hi, doing well. you? | 16:52 |
| camro | is ok, too | 16:52 |
| stinebd | i saw that merge earlier | 16:52 |
| stinebd | are people happy now? | 16:53 |
| camro | well, i can disable it via the fake option, but this warning is for me a little bitt to eary ... | 16:53 |
| camro | +l | 16:53 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, i still see people whining about keymap layouts. so many changes tho, the users may not be using the newest stuff. just quit changing crap :P | 16:54 |
| camro | if the phonehave a duration of 100% = 100hrs and there are 15% (15hrs left, then the warning is to aerly - or ? | 16:54 |
| arrrghhh | lol 100% & 100hrs? are you dreamin? | 16:54 |
| stinebd | i can get that on my n1 | 16:54 |
| camro | arrrghhh: if they re using the latest kernel + latest rootfs, there can't be aproblem . or ? | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | camro, yea if they are... | 16:55 |
| stinebd | if you have anybody complaining about the keymaps, send them here | 16:55 |
| stinebd | and i shall promptly ban them | 16:55 |
| camro | arrrghhh: look to the test on the kernel v21 thread -> rhod300 | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, i don't think i'd ever be able to get that, maybe if i turned all the radios off & didn't touch the phone lol | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 16:55 |
| camro | with screen always on 10hrs !!!! | 16:55 |
| arrrghhh | 10 hrs is a little different from 100... :P | 16:56 |
| camro | try thisunder winmo -> never coming over 8hrs | 16:56 |
| arrrghhh | reallY/ | 16:56 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i never bothered :P | 16:56 |
| stinebd | winmo power management is really funny | 16:56 |
| stinebd | screen on = FULL STEAM AHEAD, while screen off = totally dead and could last a week if nothing is running | 16:57 |
| arrrghhh | like funny haha or funny ouch? | 16:57 |
| camro | stinebd: what i mean, now the battery is looking better, maybe it is a good idea to warning the user (like a car) if the last 5% are rechaed ? | 16:57 |
| stinebd | that's another frameworks/base thing | 16:57 |
| stinebd | to the best of my knowledge anyway | 16:57 |
| stinebd | i'll look and see if it has a resource available but probably not knowing google | 16:57 |
| camro | stinebd: if you kill all apps - check via "ps", then also 5 days is possible | 16:58 |
| camro | but not sure if someone whats a complete deactivated phone :) | 16:58 |
| camro | 15% is a base framework part ? really ? | 16:58 |
| camro | hmm | 16:58 |
| camro | ok, forget it ... | 16:58 |
| stinebd | it is but that doesn't necessarily mean it can't be configured by the vendor | 16:59 |
| camro | the base framework changes are almost so slow as MS :( | 16:59 |
| stinebd | i know the 4% critical is hardcoded | 16:59 |
| camro | sure, but i don'T want to forge to wheel every day ... | 17:00 |
| stinebd | ohhh | 17:00 |
| stinebd | you're lucky | 17:01 |
| stinebd | com.android.internal.R.integer.config_lowBatteryWarningLevel | 17:01 |
| stinebd | com.android.internal.R.integer.config_lowBatteryCloseWarningLevel << wtf does that mean | 17:01 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8730929&postcount=10067 | 17:01 |
| stinebd | i don't do shit for brits | 17:02 |
| arrrghhh | LOL | 17:04 |
| arrrghhh | nice. | 17:04 |
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| camro|away | stinebd: it is not so important, since i rewrite the battery algo, so, now it is possbile to set the "fake" option and the current will also calc correct as it is on battery | 17:06 |
| camro|away | it was onyl an idea, which maybe it could be set to 5% | 17:06 |
| stinebd | it can, and i will consider it | 17:06 |
| camro|away | like on winomo or on a car | 17:06 |
| camro|away | well, but it would be fine if it will bedone in framework | 17:07 |
| stinebd | it can be set through a configuration file in our device tree, doesn't need a change to frameworks/base | 17:07 |
| camro|away | we must think about the at this is a base .. and with every changes we are going to another direction, so i donate for your descision to to do too much changes ... | 17:08 |
| camro|away | ok, amybe we think about ... | 17:08 |
| camro|away | we will see, if the battery drivers are better, maybe this is an option ... | 17:08 |
| stinebd | i do lots of config file changes, so it's not a problem | 17:08 |
| camro|away | maybe you keepp it in meind :) | 17:08 |
| stinebd | i'll file a bug about it | 17:08 |
| camro|away | oki | 17:08 |
| stinebd | to remind us | 17:08 |
| camro|away | so, 1 last cigarette before going fucking my wife :) | 17:09 |
| stinebd | isn't the cigarette usually after? | 17:09 |
| camro|away | too :) | 17:09 |
| camro|away | git pull - aaaahhh :) did that last for 1 month :) | 17:11 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: is power working on any rhods? | 17:13 |
| stinebd | jesus all these keymaps | 17:16 |
| arrrghhh | it is on mine | 17:18 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i should try with the newest stuff | 17:18 |
| stinebd | meh | 17:20 |
| arrrghhh | my apathetic sentiments exactly. | 17:20 |
| stinebd | can i count on you to do foreign language testing? | 17:20 |
| arrrghhh | uhm.. no. | 17:21 |
| stinebd | :/ | 17:21 |
| arrrghhh | how can i test something i know nothing about lol? | 17:22 |
| stinebd | just booting with the various stupid physkeyboard= stuff | 17:22 |
| stinebd | send me your phone and i can do it for you | 17:23 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:24 |
| arrrghhh | what good would that do me tho | 17:24 |
| arrrghhh | the keyboard layouts won't match | 17:24 |
| stinebd | the power button is in the same place on all of them | 17:25 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 17:25 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't realize the physkeyboard= changed that mapping... | 17:25 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i incorrectly assumed that was for keyboard only :P | 17:25 |
| arrrghhh | is there a list of all the kbd layouts? babijoee i think had a list, not sure it was exhaustive or not. | 17:25 |
| stinebd | yes | 17:26 |
| stinebd | in rootfs/init | 17:26 |
| stinebd | the list is a big if-then-else statement | 17:26 |
| stinebd | anyway just try it with physkeyboard=rhod100_uk | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | lol ok | 17:27 |
| arrrghhh | i can do that . | 17:27 |
| stinebd | if that one works the others should be fine | 17:27 |
| arrrghhh | methinks | 17:27 |
| stinebd | and one more thing | 17:27 |
| stinebd | wait for the new rootfs before doing it | 17:27 |
| arrrghhh | another new one? | 17:27 |
| stinebd | yes | 17:27 |
| arrrghhh | you're a machine :P | 17:27 |
| stinebd | no | 17:27 |
| stinebd | the rootfs building machine is the machine | 17:27 |
| arrrghhh | well you're a machine that feeds the rootfs building machine. | 17:28 |
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| arrrghhh | stinebd, did you see the thread on the femtocell crap? | 17:29 |
| arrrghhh | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814305 | 17:30 |
| xdandroid | New rootfs available (20101020-0ede780) at: http://is.gd/gaehe -- Changes at: http://is.gd/gaehd | 17:33 |
| arrrghhh | scwheet. | 17:34 |
| arrrghhh | er | 17:34 |
| arrrghhh | schweet | 17:34 |
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| arrrghhh | seems we've also got some hamagc lookalikes in the forums. | 17:44 |
| arrrghhh | ppls on sprint complaining newest kernel breaks their data. | 17:45 |
| stinebd | people on sprint complain about everything | 17:45 |
| arrrghhh | seriously. dicks. | 17:45 |
| stinebd | they must be a really bad carrier to have no happy customers | 17:46 |
| arrrghhh | oh... wait. | 17:46 |
| stinebd | (says the guy with att) | 17:46 |
| arrrghhh | it's you durn developers. you need to make everything work perfectly with out regressions! | 17:46 |
| arrrghhh | users don't get regressions. seems to be the norm with this project too. | 17:46 |
| stinebd | regressions keep me in business! | 17:46 |
| arrrghhh | bwhhahaah | 17:46 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't realize you were in business here :P | 17:47 |
| stinebd | oh wow | 17:48 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know how many times i tell people to check the force cdma command | 17:48 |
| arrrghhh | or to remap their freaking end key to home. | 17:48 |
| stinebd | i forgot i put htc_ril_wrapper in my system image | 17:48 |
| arrrghhh | ...? | 17:48 |
| stinebd | the thing that lets you run htc's ril with pppd instead of crappy rmnet | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | oh | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't realize that even came into play with our system. | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | i know people on hd2 are clamoring for rmnet to be workin. | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | ok so with the newest, my power button works. now to try with rhod100_uk | 17:50 |
| stinebd | what's taking you so long?! | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | i booted with the newest with my rhod400 in there to make sure status quo was still that... :P | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | c'mon man, gotta be scientific about it lest i be a worthless tester. | 17:51 |
| stinebd | there wasn't anything scientific about the changes in the first place, why should there be in the testing? | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | dunno. | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | makes me feel better at least. | 17:51 |
| stinebd | breaking crap is an art, not a science | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | i haven't ran with the newest rootfs, so i wanted to be sure. | 17:51 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha i was never good with art :P | 17:52 |
| arrrghhh | oy these failed boots are not helping the whole me taking a long time thing... | 17:57 |
| hamagc | what did i do now? | 18:00 |
| arrrghhh | everything wrong. | 18:01 |
| hamagc | lol | 18:01 |
| arrrghhh | so stinebd | 18:01 |
| arrrghhh | rhod100_uk keymap. power button works. | 18:01 |
| hamagc | we're clamoring for rmnet to work too | 18:01 |
| arrrghhh | dude no body is clamoring for that. | 18:02 |
| hamagc | i believe rmnet would get mms to work for us and make data more stable | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | mms pffft | 18:02 |
| hamagc | lol | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | people use that? :P | 18:02 |
| hamagc | apparently alot | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 18:02 |
| hamagc | i never noticed until i started running xdandroid | 18:02 |
| arrrghhh | i can't even recieve them properly in winmo, they just come in as emails. | 18:02 |
| hamagc | suddenly everyone wants to send me pics | 18:02 |
| hamagc | so i'm not the only one with broken data now? | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | alright goin home. | 18:03 |
| hamagc | woot! it's not the phone then! | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | hamagc, evidently not. | 18:03 |
| stinebd | android does a thing where it sends messages to all your contacts that say "SEND ME A PICTURE PLEASE" | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | it's the user. | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 18:03 |
| hamagc | lol | 18:03 |
| arrrghhh | i'll cya guys in a few. | 18:03 |
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| hamagc | later arrhgg | 18:03 |
| hamagc | my kb just threw up in this channel | 18:03 |
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| arrrghhh | stinebd, anything else i need to test for ya? :P | 18:36 |
| arrrghhh | or i should say do you have anything else that needs testing. | 18:37 |
| stinebd | no, thanks | 18:37 |
| arrrghhh | coolio | 18:37 |
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| stinebd | this usb stuff broke adb it seems | 19:02 |
| arrrghhh | user error, works for me. | 19:03 |
| stinebd | but does it keep working? | 19:03 |
| stinebd | eventually adb disconnects and refuses to reconnect | 19:03 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 19:03 |
| stinebd | could be battery related too i guess | 19:03 |
| arrrghhh | i had a session for several hours once | 19:03 |
| stinebd | since the usb merge? | 19:03 |
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| arrrghhh | i've never used adb before it, so yea. | 19:04 |
| stinebd | with a full battery? | 19:04 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't think it fixed raph tho | 19:04 |
| arrrghhh | the usb commit | 19:04 |
| arrrghhh | i thought you still had to do the activesync crap. | 19:04 |
| stinebd | fixed? | 19:04 |
| stinebd | i always boot with usb plugged in | 19:05 |
| arrrghhh | yea, i don't think the commit for usb applied to the raph. | 19:05 |
| arrrghhh | oh. | 19:05 |
| stinebd | it sure did | 19:05 |
| stinebd | that was a big merge | 19:05 |
| arrrghhh | acl said it didn't fix the activesync on boot crap... dunno. | 19:05 |
| stinebd | well something broke adb | 19:05 |
| arrrghhh | are you doing this on winblows? | 19:06 |
| stinebd | no | 19:06 |
| stinebd | i don't have any windows machines | 19:06 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't think so | 19:06 |
| arrrghhh | hm. | 19:06 |
| stinebd | yeah usb is really really wonky for me now | 19:08 |
| arrrghhh | still sounds like user error. | 19:09 |
| arrrghhh | WONTFIX | 19:09 |
| stinebd | no this is definitely a problem | 19:09 |
| arrrghhh | you have multiple RAPHs at this point right? | 19:09 |
| stinebd | looks like adb connects, battery generates a false full event, adb shuts down | 19:09 |
| stinebd | no | 19:09 |
| arrrghhh | oh. | 19:09 |
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| stinebd | unplug, replug after a few seconds, no response in android | 19:10 |
| arrrghhh | hm | 19:10 |
| stinebd | unplus, replug after a few minutes, adb connects, battery generates false full, adb shuts down | 19:10 |
| stinebd | unplug* | 19:10 |
| arrrghhh | weird... | 19:10 |
| arrrghhh | how full is your battery? | 19:10 |
| stinebd | i'll have to reboot with camro's latest change backed out | 19:10 |
| stinebd | don't know | 19:10 |
| stinebd | it claims ~90% | 19:11 |
| arrrghhh | are you on an autobuild kernel? | 19:11 |
| stinebd | i don't use that junk | 19:12 |
| arrrghhh | lmao then you're unsupported :P | 19:12 |
| stinebd | the only changes in my tree are for hw3d | 19:12 |
| stinebd | (at the moment) | 19:12 |
| stinebd | observe as i bisect this | 19:13 |
| stinebd | since you're clearly no help | 19:13 |
| * stinebd runs | 19:13 | |
| arrrghhh | someone told you i was helpful? | 19:14 |
| arrrghhh | they LIED | 19:14 |
| stinebd | sigh | 19:17 |
| stinebd | i hate bisecting | 19:19 |
| stinebd | unless it's oreos | 19:21 |
| arrrghhh | or blondes? | 19:27 |
| arrrghhh | wait, no... that sounds a little serial killlerish | 19:27 |
| stinebd | more like do the world a favorish | 19:27 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:27 |
| stinebd | usb: suspend | 19:28 |
| stinebd | why! | 19:28 |
| stinebd | heyyy there it goes | 19:30 |
| stinebd | for now | 19:30 |
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| xdandroid | New XDAndroid Releases bug 34 filed... | 19:37 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=34 enhancement, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Android battery whining at 15% | 19:37 |
| stinebd | WONTFIX? | 19:37 |
| stinebd | double secret RESOLVED INVALID? | 19:39 |
| arrrghhh | didn't you tell camro you could fix it lol | 19:41 |
| arrrghhh | oh you filed that LOL | 19:41 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 19:41 |
| arrrghhh | so why do we have to wait for the battery consumption to be under control? | 19:42 |
| arrrghhh | it seems now more than ever we need this. although with camro's battery algo fixes we actually need it less.. | 19:42 |
| stinebd | because we don't want to wait until the user has one hour left on battery to start whining | 19:42 |
| arrrghhh | agreed | 19:42 |
| stinebd | or in my case, less than an hour | 19:42 |
| arrrghhh | is that the default from android? | 19:42 |
| arrrghhh | the 15% whine point? | 19:42 |
| stinebd | yes | 19:43 |
| stinebd | there's a kernel-based workaround already, so i'm not concerned about just shutting it up | 19:43 |
| arrrghhh | what the fake command? | 19:44 |
| stinebd | min_vol now | 19:44 |
| stinebd | or similar | 19:44 |
| arrrghhh | ah | 19:44 |
| arrrghhh | must be new from camro :D | 19:44 |
| stinebd | do you even read the commit messages? :P | 19:44 |
| arrrghhh | lmao i haven't downloaded stuff from autobuild in a while. | 19:44 |
| arrrghhh | i can't use android ft, so i mostly just test for devs. | 19:44 |
| stinebd | module_param_named(vol_min, vol_min, int, S_IRUGO | S_IWUSR | S_IWGRP); | 19:44 |
| stinebd | if you don't know what THAT means... | 19:45 |
| arrrghhh | ... i should shoot myself? | 19:46 |
| arrrghhh | not sure how to finish that sentence in a good way. | 19:46 |
| stinebd | you're a very violent person | 19:46 |
| arrrghhh | well... thank you. | 19:46 |
| stinebd | <!-- Control whether status bar should distinguish HSPA data icon form UMTS data icon on devices --> | 19:46 |
| stinebd | <bool name="config_hspa_data_distinguishable">false</bool> | 19:46 |
| stinebd | i was thinking about changing that just to see what it's like | 19:47 |
| stinebd | and to throw people off | 19:47 |
| stinebd | tell them it means SUPER HIGH SPEED | 19:47 |
| stinebd | faster neopeek etc | 19:47 |
| stinebd | or whatever it's called | 19:47 |
| stinebd | neocore | 19:47 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:47 |
| stinebd | neopeek is funnier | 19:47 |
| arrrghhh | i think that's for grfx testing, but hey. | 19:48 |
| stinebd | <!-- Enables swipe versus poly-finger touch disambiguation in the KeyboardView --> | 19:48 |
| stinebd | <bool name="config_swipeDisambiguation">true</bool> | 19:48 |
| stinebd | wtf does that mean? | 19:48 |
| arrrghhh | poly finger... | 19:48 |
| stinebd | we don't have multitouch | 19:48 |
| stinebd | therefore false | 19:48 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:49 |
| arrrghhh | i'm assuming that's from android as well. | 19:49 |
| stinebd | these are all coming from the upstream frameworks/base config file | 19:49 |
| stinebd | <!-- Component name of the default wallpaper. This will be ImageWallpaper if not specified --> | 19:50 |
| stinebd | <string name="default_wallpaper_component">MarioLiveWallpaper</string> | 19:50 |
| stinebd | pushed. | 19:50 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 19:50 |
| arrrghhh | we need angry birds built in to the builds as well :P | 19:50 |
| stinebd | <stringmatch name="config_blockedApps">Angry*</stringmatch> | 19:51 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 19:51 |
| arrrghhh | that i understand at least :P | 19:51 |
| stinebd | ok no more work for me | 19:56 |
| stinebd | "work" | 19:56 |
| arrrghhh | what is with all these 800 users... | 20:01 |
| arrrghhh | hammy ain't here either. | 20:01 |
| arrrghhh | so some random people are still reporting mic issues as well. | 20:02 |
| arrrghhh | a bunch of people said it's fixed, but i still see posts saying it's broken. | 20:02 |
| arrrghhh | haven't been able to nail one down tho, they may be using old stuff. | 20:02 |
| arrrghhh | kinda wish i could've kept my 800 | 20:04 |
| arrrghhh | oh well | 20:05 |
| xdandroid | New XDAndroid Releases bug 35 filed... | 20:29 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=35 normal, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, Menu button or Action button missing | 20:29 |
| stinebd | i swear to god | 20:30 |
| xdandroid | stinebd@xdandroid.com changed the Status on bug 35 from NEW to RESOLVED INVALID. | 20:31 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 20:33 |
| arrrghhh | they want their action button! | 20:33 |
| arrrghhh | dude someone just sent me an email @ my xdandroid address. | 20:36 |
| stinebd | get used to it | 20:36 |
| arrrghhh | damnit. | 20:36 |
| arrrghhh | i don't know this dude | 20:36 |
| stinebd | definitely get used to that | 20:36 |
| arrrghhh | sounds like jail, with less rape. | 20:36 |
| stinebd | less? | 20:37 |
| arrrghhh | well | 20:37 |
| arrrghhh | physical rape. | 20:37 |
| stinebd | did you not see bug 35? | 20:37 |
| xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=35 normal, Normal, ---, developers, RESOLVED INVALID, Menu button or Action button missing | 20:37 |
| arrrghhh | LOL yes i saw bug 35 | 20:37 |
| arrrghhh | i was sayin they want their action button! | 20:37 |
| arrrghhh | talk about not reading commits :P | 20:37 |
| stinebd | i wonder if any android phones have that | 20:37 |
| arrrghhh | that update utility is evil. | 20:38 |
| arrrghhh | well | 20:38 |
| arrrghhh | can't you click the button on the n1 | 20:38 |
| arrrghhh | and whatever phone has that trackball | 20:38 |
| arrrghhh | hero | 20:38 |
| arrrghhh | i'm sure there's others. | 20:38 |
| stinebd | trackball is menu | 20:39 |
| arrrghhh | oh. | 20:39 |
| arrrghhh | shows what i know. | 20:39 |
| stinebd | oh no it isnt | 20:39 |
| stinebd | trackball is trackball | 20:39 |
| arrrghhh | <-------- never used a native android device for more than 120 seconds lol | 20:39 |
| stinebd | me neither | 20:39 |
| arrrghhh | it doesn't click down? | 20:39 |
| arrrghhh | you own an n1 i thought. dick. | 20:39 |
| arrrghhh | sir richard! | 20:39 |
| stinebd | yeah trackball clicks | 20:40 |
| stinebd | i wonder what trackpad does | 20:40 |
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| arrrghhh | stinebd, can whiny users of raph just go back to the older rootfs and have the center button be enter again...? i want to make sure nothing in the kernel would break it... | 21:42 |
| stinebd | wtf? | 21:42 |
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| arrrghhh | i think that was english... | 21:43 |
| arrrghhh | maybe this norwegian can help. | 21:43 |
| TheDeadCPU | wat | 21:43 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:43 |
| stinebd | someone explain to me why we need the center button | 21:44 |
| TheDeadCPU | WE don't, people that doesn't know how to move their hand to the screen to select something does. | 21:44 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, i don't know, i don't even have the device. you know how the monkeys get | 21:44 |
| TheDeadCPU | arrrghhh, how can I help now? | 21:45 |
| arrrghhh | they think they know how they want it, and it should be like that. | 21:45 |
| arrrghhh | TheDeadCPU, you're doin just fine boy. | 21:45 |
| TheDeadCPU | oO | 21:45 |
| TheDeadCPU | I'm confused. | 21:45 |
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| arrrghhh | don't sweat it haha | 21:46 |
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| stinebd | due to my growing frustration over the keymap nonsense... i've given users more than enough time to provide feedback about the changes. we've rearranged the keymap to do what the buttons are labelled to do. it's sane and it's staying that way | 21:47 |
| arrrghhh | no no don't change anything | 21:47 |
| arrrghhh | i just want to tell this particular monkey that he can keep his rootfs back and it'll work | 21:48 |
| stinebd | it won't | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | i don't want to tell him the wrong thing, i'm not a monster. | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | damnit. | 21:48 |
| stinebd | not universally anyway | 21:48 |
| arrrghhh | so he has to keep his kernel back to then eh? that's not such a good option. oh well. | 21:48 |
| stinebd | the fuze keymap for sure won't. other keymaps might work but are totally unsupported. rhod definitely won't work | 21:49 |
| * TheDeadCPU mass cleans a tread on XDA. | 21:49 | |
| arrrghhh | well rhod doesn't have a center button... so that's fine :P | 21:49 |
| stinebd | we've got resistive touchscreens and a stylus, no need for a button | 21:50 |
| arrrghhh | you don't have to make the argument to me d00d | 21:50 |
| arrrghhh | i'm just trying to tell this guy something that'll make him happy lol | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | (and stfu) | 21:51 |
| stinebd | don't worry about making everyone happy | 21:51 |
| stinebd | if he's not happy he can suck it up or fork rootfs | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | i just want him to STFU!!!! | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | happiness has nothing to do with it really. | 21:51 |
| stinebd | fire the old EOD gun | 21:51 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 21:51 |
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| arrrghhh | alright i'll just put a disclaimer in mah post. | 21:54 |
| arrrghhh | ah yea, that's a goooooooood post. | 21:55 |
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