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| Chilion | gddy | 10:16 |
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| Chilion | just wondering, ma Touch Pro2 just keeps searching for a provider | 10:16 |
| Chilion | any toughts how I could help it out, or wont he find it? (t-mobile NL) | 10:17 |
| arrrghhh | do you ever get service? | 10:17 |
| Chilion | No | 10:17 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 10:18 |
| arrrghhh | force cdma set to...? | 10:18 |
| arrrghhh | i'm assuming you're GSM, so it should be =0 | 10:18 |
| Chilion | well, i spend whole day lookin the internet for info about xdandroid | 10:18 |
| arrrghhh | ok... | 10:18 |
| Chilion | read about it | 10:18 |
| arrrghhh | good | 10:18 |
| Chilion | but dunno where to set | 10:18 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 10:18 |
| Chilion | the force cdma | 10:18 |
| arrrghhh | did you read reef's faq? | 10:19 |
| Chilion | from ppc? | 10:19 |
| arrrghhh | that's probably one of the better things to read. | 10:19 |
| Chilion | ok, ill do it again ;)\ | 10:19 |
| arrrghhh | well his site is on sites.google | 10:19 |
| Chilion | youve got the link? | 10:20 |
| arrrghhh | http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/faq | 10:20 |
| Chilion | great | 10:20 |
| arrrghhh | looks like he needs to update that little diagram haha | 10:20 |
| Chilion | haha, naice diagram tough | 10:21 |
| arrrghhh | audio & 3d work on tp2 now :P | 10:22 |
| Chilion | good! | 10:23 |
| Chilion | so, I have to change the value 1 to 0 in startup.txt? | 10:24 |
| arrrghhh | yes :D | 10:24 |
| arrrghhh | it should be a 0 if you're on GSM | 10:25 |
| Chilion | ok | 10:25 |
| Chilion | but, i read something about puttn simcard out or in | 10:25 |
| Chilion | verry anyoing | 10:25 |
| Chilion | I always have the wrong provider :p | 10:25 |
| Chilion | I have heard some need the SIM due to they are using their CDMA phone on T-Mobile or something | 10:25 |
| Chilion | That sentence, definitly, i have the wrong provider again :\ | 10:25 |
| arrrghhh | well | 10:26 |
| arrrghhh | do you have service? | 10:26 |
| Chilion | not yet | 10:26 |
| arrrghhh | i heard gsm will read from the tower you're connected to. | 10:26 |
| Chilion | should i put the phone off? | 10:26 |
| Chilion | cause cant edit the file now | 10:26 |
| Chilion | ma PC doenst recognize it now | 10:26 |
| arrrghhh | well you can't read a card that's mounted by the os :P | 10:27 |
| Chilion | ill switch it off | 10:27 |
| arrrghhh | android kinda needs the card to run | 10:27 |
| Chilion | hehe :p | 10:27 |
| arrrghhh | did you change that value? | 10:27 |
| arrrghhh | sometimes it takes a few to boot up. | 10:27 |
| Chilion | no, will change it right away, when its closed | 10:27 |
| arrrghhh | oic | 10:28 |
| arrrghhh | g2g to work. i'll bbl. | 10:28 |
| Chilion | tnx for helping sofar! | 10:28 |
| Chilion | woot | 10:29 |
| Chilion | what file should I have ? :P | 10:29 |
| Chilion | alot off Rhodium's in there | 10:30 |
| Chilion | ill open all of them :P | 10:30 |
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| Chilion | IT WORKSSSSSSZZZZZ :D | 10:39 |
| Chilion | Lol, anyone can help out futher? | 10:43 |
| Chilion | i do not have an SD Card inserted | 10:43 |
| Chilion | but there is one :P | 10:43 |
| Chilion | I only get the error | 10:43 |
| Chilion | when trying to play music | 10:43 |
| Chilion | how? | 10:43 |
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| Chilion | gdday | 10:54 |
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| emwe | stinebd: regarding the keymap thingy. just let me know when you wan't it changed. | 13:25 |
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| hamagc | arrrghhh: hey any reports of data not working on raph800? | 13:35 |
| arrrghhh | nope | 13:35 |
| arrrghhh | just you | 13:35 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 13:35 |
| hamagc | lol always | 13:36 |
| hamagc | even with a new data.img, i get a 3g icon but no data moving | 13:36 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 13:36 |
| hamagc | unliuke with camros kernels though, i don't get a no connection error, it just sits like it's trying to do something but no data moves | 13:36 |
| arrrghhh | have you tried the apn crap? | 13:36 |
| hamagc | no, apns are automatic now, but let me look | 13:36 |
| arrrghhh | well... | 13:38 |
| arrrghhh | should be automatic. | 13:38 |
| arrrghhh | don't go makin assumptions without doing any troubleshooting. | 13:38 |
| hamagc | should be lol. i tried with original data.img and same effect. it's booting now so i'll let you know in a sec | 13:38 |
| hamagc | maybe clean out cashe folder? | 13:39 |
| hamagc | does that do anytihng for us? | 13:39 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 13:39 |
| arrrghhh | never heard of that for a troubleshooting step before. | 13:39 |
| hamagc | i know that was suggested when we moved from 2.1 to 2.2 | 13:39 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 13:40 |
| arrrghhh | never heard of it | 13:40 |
| arrrghhh | not saying it's a lie, i've just never heard of it :P | 13:40 |
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| hamagc | lol | 13:40 |
| hamagc | ok so really weird. i have sms but no internet | 13:42 |
| emwe | because sms goes over gsm/cdma control lines | 13:42 |
| hamagc | i thought that was in there with data | 13:42 |
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| hamagc | maybe i'm thinking mms | 13:43 |
| emwe | mms is data, yap ;) | 13:43 |
| hamagc | lol | 13:43 |
| emwe | perhaps adb'ing the issue might help ;) | 13:43 |
| hamagc | ok apn is in there, wifi works just no cell data | 13:43 |
| emwe | or install CatLog to see logcat from android to get a clue what might be wrong. | 13:43 |
| hamagc | haven't tried adb on this kernel yet | 13:43 |
| hamagc | i'm running a log right now. would radio be best? | 13:44 |
| arrrghhh | sms is not data | 13:44 |
| arrrghhh | sms is like a phone call :P | 13:44 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: not even that... | 13:44 |
| arrrghhh | well | 13:44 |
| arrrghhh | it uses the same principle | 13:44 |
| emwe | hamagc: logcat also spits out some pppd stuff iirc. not sure ;) | 13:44 |
| arrrghhh | i see my phone go to 1x with sms just like it does with a cal. | 13:44 |
| arrrghhh | call | 13:44 |
| hamagc | ok | 13:44 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: 1x? some us-american stuff i have no clue about it seems ;) | 13:45 |
| hamagc | ok let me post my log and boot with activesync to see if adb still works on this kernel | 13:45 |
| emwe | is that something like connection lanes? like pcie 16x? ;) | 13:45 |
| hamagc | 1x is 1xrtt | 13:45 |
| hamagc | or 2g | 13:45 |
| arrrghhh | correct | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | and i can't stay in evdo if i'm using sms or phone call. | 13:46 |
| arrrghhh | it drops to 1x. | 13:46 |
| hamagc | always | 13:46 |
| emwe | i should read up about us telephony systems one day ;) | 13:46 |
| hamagc | it's the equivalent of gsm hitting edge for sms and calls. | 13:47 |
| emwe | hm, i thought the device should stay in it's data state where it was... but as you mention. i always fall back to gprs on data when having a call. | 13:48 |
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| emwe | evening ;) | 13:48 |
| hamagc | ya thats normal | 13:48 |
| arrrghhh | normal indeed | 13:49 |
| arrrghhh | camro, what's up d00d | 13:49 |
| hamagc | so anyone try out the yahoo app yet? | 13:49 |
| Aks | which yahoo app | 13:49 |
| hamagc | the new one | 13:49 |
| hamagc | http://gizmodo.com/5667749/yahoo-messenger-with-video-calling-plucked-from-leaked-android-rom | 13:50 |
| emwe | because data+phone share the same "connection" to the network? thought was kind of independant. (data and phone) | 13:50 |
| Aks | not yet | 13:51 |
| hamagc | cdma it does, on gsm it's different | 13:51 |
| hamagc | cdma shuts off data on call, gsm uses different channels so you can have both | 13:51 |
| Aks | i m trying camro's build v19 .. and it crapped out 2 times | 13:51 |
| arrrghhh | yea gsm has tech that you can do both at the same time | 13:51 |
| arrrghhh | supposedly evdo rev a supports it... | 13:51 |
| emwe | hamagc: it shuts off data on cdma? | 13:52 |
| emwe | wow... | 13:52 |
| arrrghhh | yea you can't have data and voice running at the same time. | 13:52 |
| emwe | advanced. | 13:52 |
| hamagc | with 4g you can though | 13:52 |
| emwe | sorry. couldn't resist ;) | 13:52 |
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| emwe | bbl. supper time. | 13:53 |
| arrrghhh | no one said cdma was advanced :P | 13:53 |
| emwe | hehe | 13:53 |
| hamagc | gah! no adb on latest kernel for me | 13:53 |
| hamagc | well this is all bad. | 13:53 |
| hamagc | no data, no adb, all on a new data.img | 13:53 |
| hamagc | lol i feel like this project is dying on my device | 13:54 |
| arrrghhh | it is | 13:54 |
| hamagc | but i'm getting something cool next week | 13:54 |
| * arrrghhh figured out a way to target only hamagc's phone to break | 13:54 | |
| hamagc | my g/f is all excited so i don't know if i'm getting a hero or something better :P | 13:55 |
| Aks | nice !!! | 13:55 |
| Aks | camro - build v19 is not working on rhod400 | 13:55 |
| hamagc | damnit arrrghhh, i knew it was you! | 13:55 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:55 |
| hamagc | and your dos cellular attacks! | 13:55 |
| hamagc | bah, i ahve to goto a chamber of commerce lunchin today | 13:55 |
| arrrghhh | fun fun | 13:56 |
| arrrghhh | i have to dig thru packet captures to figure out why a phone is resetting. | 13:56 |
| hamagc | http://pastebin.com/ujuz84b9 | 13:57 |
| hamagc | logcat | 13:57 |
| hamagc | E/pppd ( 1795): Failed to open /dev/smd1: m | 13:57 |
| hamagc | hmm, that looks familar | 13:57 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 13:58 |
| hamagc | but i have to run, bbl | 13:58 |
| Aks | trying v18 | 14:00 |
| Aks | arrrghhh - i have the new rootfs | 14:01 |
| Aks | is that the problem in starting android | 14:01 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 14:02 |
| arrrghhh | shouldn't be a problem | 14:02 |
| Aks | custom android phones - http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/19/caveat-emptor-custom-android-handsets-all-the-rage-in-germany/ | 14:06 |
| Aks | lucky bastas | 14:08 |
| arrrghhh | crazy. | 14:09 |
| arrrghhh | i think we need a serious overhaul in this country. the way carriers lock phones down is ridiculous. | 14:10 |
| Aks | ya | 14:10 |
| Aks | its crazy what we have here | 14:10 |
| Aks | all other countries are free to use what they want | 14:11 |
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| Chilion | Hi all! | 15:32 |
| Chilion | is develpment really discontinued? | 15:36 |
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| arrrghhh | yea dude | 15:37 |
| arrrghhh | development stopped months ago | 15:37 |
| Chilion | why? | 15:37 |
| Chilion | Such a great project! | 15:37 |
| arrrghhh | everyone bought iPhones. | 15:37 |
| arrrghhh | they all decided Android was not the way. | 15:37 |
| Chilion | fff, iPhone sucks | 15:37 |
| Chilion | Android is THE way | 15:37 |
| arrrghhh | hey i would've loved a complete port, just not how things go. | 15:38 |
| Chilion | hmm | 15:38 |
| Chilion | youre a developer yourself? | 15:38 |
| arrrghhh | no | 15:38 |
| Chilion | hmm ok | 15:38 |
| arrrghhh | and I'M KIDDING | 15:38 |
| Chilion | WAAAAAA | 15:39 |
| arrrghhh | what do you mean development has discontinued? | 15:39 |
| Chilion | xda topic says so | 15:39 |
| arrrghhh | they just pushed a new kernel just a couple of days ago. | 15:39 |
| arrrghhh | yes | 15:39 |
| arrrghhh | for 2.1 | 15:39 |
| arrrghhh | 2.2 development is goin strong | 15:39 |
| Chilion | ah, lol, stupid me :P | 15:39 |
| Chilion | naice | 15:39 |
| arrrghhh | man that was too easy dude. | 15:39 |
| Chilion | hehe :P | 15:39 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha sorry. | 15:39 |
| Chilion | no, my bad :P | 15:39 |
| Chilion | well if development still continiues | 15:40 |
| Chilion | then question | 15:40 |
| Chilion | why is my phone going out all the time? :P | 15:40 |
| arrrghhh | not sure what you mean by that | 15:40 |
| arrrghhh | it's an ongoing struggle | 15:40 |
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| Chilion | its just shutting down :P | 15:41 |
| arrrghhh | dunno. | 15:41 |
| arrrghhh | restarts seem to be the norm | 15:42 |
| arrrghhh | shut down... not so much. | 15:42 |
| MacP | When I download the http://htcandroid.xland.cz/XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.3.9.10.RC.2.2.system.7z it extracts a .ext2 file. Why ? | 15:43 |
| Chilion | no, not restart | 15:44 |
| Chilion | need do do it myself | 15:44 |
| Chilion | MacP, search a good one yourself then | 15:44 |
| Chilion | more thn enough on this website | 15:44 |
| MacP | I'll find it. No prob | 15:45 |
| arrrghhh | wat? | 15:46 |
| arrrghhh | the ext2 file just replaces the old one | 15:46 |
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| arrrghhh | MacP, it's an update. so if you don't have a bundle, you need to get it before downloading any updates. | 15:48 |
| MacP | Thought so | 15:49 |
| MacP | Found the CAB file now | 15:49 |
| MacP | Thanks | 15:49 |
| Aks | camro's all new builds after v14 are bombing on my rhod | 15:49 |
| arrrghhh | meh | 15:50 |
| arrrghhh | camro ain't here | 15:50 |
| Aks | ya | 15:50 |
| Aks | will talk to him | 15:50 |
| Aks | the phone just freezes or restarts inwinmo | 15:50 |
| arrrghhh | do your due diligence before talking to him! | 15:50 |
| Aks | sure :) | 15:51 |
| arrrghhh | you know what i mean by that right? | 15:51 |
| Aks | ya | 15:51 |
| Aks | checking everything | 15:51 |
| Aks | i took out the new rootfs n all | 15:51 |
| arrrghhh | delete (move, rename) data.img | 15:52 |
| arrrghhh | format card | 15:52 |
| arrrghhh | etc | 15:52 |
| arrrghhh | all the crap to isolate | 15:52 |
| arrrghhh | basically | 15:52 |
| Aks | ok | 15:52 |
| arrrghhh | make sure you're running a clean build | 15:52 |
| arrrghhh | etc etc. just want to make damned sure it is his kernel and not something with your device/setup. | 15:52 |
| Aks | hmm | 15:52 |
| Chilion | Hmm, arrrghhh, another thingie | 15:54 |
| Chilion | in WM i just can use internet | 15:54 |
| Chilion | on android it doesnt work anymore | 15:54 |
| arrrghhh | it did before...? | 15:54 |
| Chilion | no | 15:55 |
| Chilion | never did | 15:55 |
| arrrghhh | well | 15:56 |
| arrrghhh | are you on gsm? | 15:56 |
| arrrghhh | i think we went over the force cdma trick earlier | 15:56 |
| arrrghhh | assuming that's been done, and you can make phone calls, the only other problem would be impatience, or APN. | 15:57 |
| arrrghhh | or a funky network that requires a proxy | 15:57 |
| arrrghhh | or, i guess, android sometimes flakes on the 3gness. | 15:57 |
| arrrghhh | but it should work in the beginning if it was that last case :P | 15:57 |
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| fuzedude | My GSM Raphael is working great... good job everybody. Any estimates of how difficult/lengthy it will be to improve battery life? | 16:00 |
| Chilion | arrrghhh yes, on GSM, had the force trick | 16:04 |
| Chilion | used it al ready | 16:04 |
| Chilion | APN | 16:04 |
| fuzedude | when I say battery life I mean during idle... wi-fi off, screen off, 3G radio off, 2G radio in standby | 16:06 |
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| fuzedude | using the most recent rootfs and kernel, the battery loses 85% of its charge after ~8 hours of idling | 16:09 |
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| stinebd | emwe: regarding the keymap thingy, whenever you want. the users don't really care if it's broken between kernel and rootfs releases. plus we might get more donations after fixing it | 17:22 |
| arrrghhh | lol hold out for the donations | 17:30 |
| arrrghhh | hype up the fix before it's pushed :P | 17:30 |
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| emwe | stinebd: lol | 17:40 |
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| WizzKidd | im trying to compile a kernel for android on htc, http://pastebin.com/8p686vuH - thats my toolchain bin folder. And i'm typing this: "make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=~/psfreedom-project/arm-cs-tools/bin/arm-none-eabi-" where have i gone wrong? | 17:45 |
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| emwe | WizzKidd: there is a tutorial site somewhere... let me find it again... | 17:49 |
| emwe | stinebd: pushed. | 17:49 |
| emwe | WizzKidd: http://www.androidonhtc.com/wiki/Get_Involved | 17:50 |
| WizzKidd | thanks | 17:50 |
| emwe | WizzKidd: you might want to a more uptodate toolchain. i am using 2010q1 e.g. | 17:50 |
| emwe | *to get | 17:50 |
| WizzKidd | emwe: sorry, whats the benifits of that new toolchain | 17:50 |
| emwe | WizzKidd: it's the toolchain which is used by "everyone" | 17:51 |
| emwe | you might also be able to use the one from android tree. never tried it though. | 17:51 |
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| WizzKidd | ohhh. damn it, so im compiling using an old toolchain? | 17:52 |
| emwe | which toolchain are you using? from where? | 17:52 |
| emwe | i can only tell that i am quite sure everybody is using that one. | 17:52 |
| WizzKidd | umm | 17:53 |
| WizzKidd | im using this one: http://github.com/jsnyder/arm-eabi-toolchain/ | 17:53 |
| emwe | puh. that one might work as well. | 17:54 |
| emwe | no idea, sorry. | 17:54 |
| emwe | but why not using the kind of officially used toolchain from codesourcery? ;) | 17:54 |
| WizzKidd | i will follow that tutorial to the letter from now on. it has everything i need. I aquired all the information in that tutorial over a couple of days scrounging bits of help from all different ppl. | 17:56 |
| emwe | that toolchain there has the advantage that you don't have to build it :) | 18:02 |
| emwe | but the binaries with that one are called "arm-none-linux-gnueabi-*" with that one | 18:03 |
| emwe | stinebd: any news from the raph100 donator? | 18:04 |
| WizzKidd | emwe: thanks | 18:09 |
| stinebd | emwe: i have to contact him to work out the logistics. can i CC you on an email to him? or if you'd prefer not to give him your address i can have it shipped to me and i'll send it to you. | 18:09 |
| stinebd | not sure you can trust me any more though ;) | 18:09 |
| emwe | stinebd: hehe. ship to you and then to him? that sounds eh.. you are in US, right? | 18:10 |
| emwe | DE here | 18:10 |
| stinebd | emwe: yeah. i don't even know where he is though | 18:10 |
| hamagc | stinebd: E/pppd ( 1795): Failed to open /dev/smd1: m - what does this mean and why does it break my data lol | 18:10 |
| stinebd | hamagc: it means you've been touching yourself too much | 18:10 |
| stinebd | or not enough | 18:11 |
| hamagc | damnit, grandma told me this would happen! | 18:11 |
| emwe | hamagc: failed to open shared memory device. now pls don't ask me if that is the radio | 18:11 |
| emwe | stinebd: cc me on the mail. and regarding my address.. it is publically available on my little homepage anyway. | 18:11 |
| stinebd | emwe: pm me your preferred email | 18:11 |
| stinebd | dont say it in here because spambots harvest with logs | 18:12 |
| emwe | stinebd: you can use the official one ;) mweirauch@xdandroid.com eh? ;) | 18:12 |
| stinebd | ok | 18:12 |
| hamagc | how do i get around it? i've seen it before and it took a kernel fix to correct it (camro's test kernels) but now i'm getting it on glemsoms kernels | 18:12 |
| emwe | eek! | 18:12 |
| emwe | lol | 18:12 |
| stinebd | don't worry, gapps has good filtering | 18:12 |
| emwe | hamagc: since when do you get that? | 18:12 |
| hamagc | since updating to glemsom latest kernel | 18:13 |
| hamagc | and this is on a new data.img | 18:13 |
| emwe | ah, i though my recent pmem commit broke it.. but it's not up yet on glemsom ;) | 18:14 |
| hamagc | lol, no this one isn't you :) | 18:14 |
| stinebd | emwe: when you get the email, you can follow up with the donor with shipping information. i offered to reimburse him on shipping costs, so if he wants that, make sure one of you gets back to me with the total postage. also, keep in mind he has to wait probably a week or so before he can send it (new device may not have arrived yet) | 18:15 |
| emwe | stinebd: thank you. i will keep you posted. the reimbursment comes from the xdandroid war chest i hope? otherwise i have some bucks left on paypal for the monodie device detection fixes. haha... | 18:17 |
| stinebd | emwe: yes, we should have enough to cover it | 18:17 |
| stinebd | unless you send it with a time machine into the past or something | 18:17 |
| arrrghhh | that does get expensive i hear. | 18:18 |
| stinebd | btw if you ever want a cut of that war chest, just email me | 18:18 |
| emwe | but those time machines are expensive these days. | 18:18 |
| stinebd | eventually i'll work out some system to send the funds to active developers | 18:19 |
| arrrghhh | i need an XDAndroid-branded hot tub if you can help me out there stinebd | 18:19 |
| stinebd | cafepress might do that | 18:19 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:20 |
| emwe | stinebd: thx for the offer. i think you will work out something nice regarding donation sharing. | 18:20 |
| emwe | oh how i hate to dump ram console via haretscripting... | 18:21 |
| emwe | it should autostart haret and dump on boot... | 18:22 |
| emwe | hamagc: from a short look smd1 is SMD_DIAG | 18:23 |
| emwe | "sounds" like not that radio/data-ish ;) | 18:23 |
| emwe | i might be totally wrong about it's use, htough | 18:23 |
| stinebd | cdma is the same? | 18:23 |
| hamagc | ya it doesn't sound like it has anything to do with it lol but it's coming up as an error for pppd | 18:24 |
| emwe | stinebd: iirc the IDs are fixed. | 18:25 |
| stinebd | nothing is fixed in cdma | 18:25 |
| emwe | 27 for gpsnmea e.g. | 18:25 |
| stinebd | it's all broken | 18:25 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, FIX IT | 18:26 |
| arrrghhh | damnit | 18:26 |
| stinebd | nah | 18:26 |
| stinebd | more fun to whine about it | 18:26 |
| emwe | hamagc: but perhaps a premature diag error makes the rest fail | 18:26 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 18:26 |
| arrrghhh | eh, i just don't use my phone as a phone in Android. | 18:26 |
| arrrghhh | problem solved. | 18:26 |
| hamagc | hmm | 18:26 |
| hamagc | well apparently smd_diag has somethign to do with the cdma radio | 18:27 |
| hamagc | via makk: smd_diag (something on the cdma radio, which is weird since I was in airplane mode), | 18:27 |
| arrrghhh | i was playing around with android the other day and of course my dad calls. freakin phone doesn't work at all, just does some mini-reset thing. so i soft-reset to winmo, and mic/ incall speaker don't work at all. of course i call him 3x before i figure it out & soft-reset again. he was PISSED lol | 18:27 |
| hamagc | lol | 18:28 |
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| emwe | yah, the incall volume stuff is nuts | 18:33 |
| emwe | and those android soft-reset thingies. dunno how they are called in android-speek. core-crash-reset? | 18:34 |
| emwe | and on gsm-topa calls get lost on some period of deep sleep. no reaction of the phone... | 18:34 |
| emwe | seems to be not the case for cdma-topa... | 18:34 |
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| Gwuat-man | hello does the keyboard backlight work on the TP2 | 18:35 |
| arrrghhh | no | 18:36 |
| arrrghhh | you can fix it to always be on - just boot Android with it on ;) | 18:36 |
| emwe | [ 178.627319] msm_pm_collapse(): returned 1 | 18:37 |
| emwe | [ 178.627319] msm_sleep: calling acpuclk_set_rate(SR_PC) now | 18:37 |
| Gwuat-man | I see the sarcasm in the smiley | 18:37 |
| Gwuat-man | yet im still lost lol | 18:37 |
| emwe | ^^ it never returns from the latter on pm.sleep_mode=1... | 18:38 |
| Gwuat-man | where is the setting to boot it | 18:38 |
| arrrghhh | Gwuat-man, what don't you understand... kbd lights don't work. | 18:39 |
| emwe | Gwuat-man: what i posted was not meant for you ;) | 18:39 |
| arrrghhh | you can force them to ALWAYS be on, you just need to boot android with the kbd lights on in WinMo | 18:40 |
| Gwuat-man | ok...thanks...Ill go back into winmo and look for the figure it out | 18:40 |
| Gwuat-man | thanks | 18:41 |
| emwe | i suppose hit some keys and quickly start haret before the lights go off again | 18:41 |
| emwe | then their setting will not be reset | 18:41 |
| Gwuat-man | Ill try that too | 18:42 |
| arrrghhh | kbd lights is coming soon, but there's other things that need to be committed first. | 18:42 |
| Gwuat-man | Understandable | 18:42 |
| Gwuat-man | just a question | 18:42 |
| Gwuat-man | as for now android mode is for daytime use =-) | 18:42 |
| arrrghhh | eh Android is for testing for me. | 18:42 |
| arrrghhh | can't use it full time whatsoever. | 18:43 |
| Gwuat-man | lol | 18:43 |
| Gwuat-man | Ive seen that | 18:43 |
| Gwuat-man | but it's readily improving | 18:43 |
| xdandroid | New rootfs available (20101019-0ccf73d) at: http://is.gd/g8Num -- Changes at: http://is.gd/g8Nuk | 18:43 |
| hamagc | ok so i unintalled everything, now i have 3 pieces of hardware with no drivers lol | 18:43 |
| hamagc | cdc acm, cdc acm data, and xda | 18:43 |
| stinebd | ^ totally untested | 18:43 |
| stinebd | no time for me to test | 18:44 |
| arrrghhh | eh more raph crap | 18:44 |
| arrrghhh | who care | 18:44 |
| arrrghhh | s | 18:44 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 18:44 |
| stinebd | should satisfy rhod too | 18:44 |
| stinebd | for the most part | 18:44 |
| arrrghhh | que? | 18:44 |
| stinebd | brings menu back, still no home button | 18:44 |
| arrrghhh | i didn't have an issue. | 18:44 |
| stinebd | huh? | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | i'm not sure anymore. | 18:45 |
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| stinebd | someone said rhod's menu key stopped working | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | hrm | 18:46 |
| arrrghhh | didn't have that happen to me | 18:46 |
| stinebd | well whatever | 18:46 |
| arrrghhh | i know someone wanted the win key to be home because it was their home key... | 18:46 |
| arrrghhh | rhod210 | 18:46 |
| arrrghhh | i believe | 18:46 |
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| hamagc | woot! | 18:48 |
| hamagc | i have adb | 18:48 |
| hamagc | had to force the drivers in but i has adb! | 18:48 |
| emwe | stinebd: hm hm hm ... my topa winkey is still home-key with LRFS | 18:54 |
| stinebd | i guess i misunderstood the complaint then | 18:54 |
| stinebd | err wait | 18:55 |
| NeoMatrixJR | hamagc: did driver trick work for you? | 18:55 |
| stinebd | still home? | 18:56 |
| stinebd | so it's been home the whole time? | 18:56 |
| emwe | stinebd: it's still home for me on topa like the previous RFS. the one before the last two RFS was ok | 18:56 |
| emwe | stinebd: 20100917 was ok for topa. | 18:57 |
| emwe | everythng perfect so to say | 18:57 |
| stinebd | oh right | 18:57 |
| stinebd | forgot one file | 18:57 |
| emwe | ah the oldqwerty eh? | 18:58 |
| stinebd | yup | 18:58 |
| emwe | just looked at the filenames as you mentioned "other". didn't notice before when comparing the commits... | 18:59 |
| stinebd | neither did i apparently | 18:59 |
| hamagc | NeoMatrixJR: ya, worked | 19:02 |
| hamagc | thansk for the headsup on that | 19:02 |
| hamagc | or arrrghhh | 19:02 |
| hamagc | or whoever suggested that one first | 19:02 |
| arrrghhh | i think it was neo :P | 19:03 |
| hamagc | lol k | 19:03 |
| arrrghhh | i just told you to use linux haha | 19:03 |
| xdandroid | New rootfs available (20101019-c11122f) at: http://is.gd/g8OX8 -- Changes at: http://is.gd/g8OX7 | 19:03 |
| arrrghhh | fast&furious rootfs updates :P | 19:03 |
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| emwe | but where's the kernel build?! | 19:04 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:05 |
| arrrghhh | c'mon stine whip out those C skillz | 19:05 |
| hamagc | another one? | 19:06 |
| hamagc | jeez, i can't keep up with the updates today | 19:06 |
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| stinebd | oh | 19:08 |
| stinebd | i guess i should've waited for the kernel update | 19:08 |
| hamagc | lol | 19:08 |
| hamagc | ok i have to run | 19:08 |
| hamagc | tomorrow guys | 19:08 |
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| emwe | laters | 19:08 |
| emwe | hm. usually glemson is quite fast with his builds. dunno what's up | 19:09 |
| emwe | stinebd: just to let you know, winkey is home again with latest rfs for me. | 19:33 |
| stinebd | ... | 19:38 |
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| stinebd | then something is wrong | 19:39 |
| stinebd | grep 139.*HOME returns nothing | 19:40 |
| stinebd | 139 being KEY_MENU in kernel | 19:41 |
| emwe | stinebd: sorry! | 19:45 |
| emwe | stinebd: forget.. winkey is menu! i mixed it up. everything is fine. | 19:46 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:46 |
| stinebd | ok | 19:46 |
| arrrghhh | see why can't you blame his crap on user error :P | 19:46 |
| emwe | it's 1:45am here... i should get to bed when clock rings at 6am | 19:46 |
| stinebd | because he pushes stuff to the kernel for me | 19:46 |
| arrrghhh | ah i see. inside man. | 19:47 |
| stinebd | i can't badmouth him or i don't get my fix, see | 19:47 |
| emwe | damn acpuclock... nearing the place where it freezes... | 19:47 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:47 |
| TheDeadCPU | emwe, I was thinking about doing the same. | 19:47 |
| emwe | stinebd: as if you wouldn't get commit access if you asked phh :P | 19:47 |
| TheDeadCPU | phh hates stinebd. | 19:48 |
| stinebd | emwe: what do you think about mic = home? | 19:48 |
| stinebd | it doesn't do anything now does it? | 19:48 |
| emwe | stinebd: mic? what where? is that a button i never found on my topa? | 19:49 |
| stinebd | please tell me topa has it | 19:49 |
| stinebd | :/ | 19:49 |
| emwe | lol | 19:49 |
| arrrghhh | lmao | 19:49 |
| stinebd | ****ing htc | 19:49 |
| emwe | but we have an yet unused zoombar below the screen. | 19:49 |
| emwe | though about misusing it as a secondary button-bar | 19:49 |
| stinebd | unused and unhandled i assume | 19:49 |
| emwe | ;) | 19:50 |
| stinebd | i wouldn't mind + = home | 19:50 |
| emwe | we need to make stickers then which people put on their zoombar... with icons ;) | 19:50 |
| arrrghhh | hahaha | 19:50 |
| arrrghhh | rhod has the same zoombar | 19:50 |
| TheDeadCPU | RAPH has that only around the middle button | 19:50 |
| stinebd | raph is trash, be quiet | 19:51 |
| stinebd | oh wait i have a raph | 19:51 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 19:51 |
| emwe | ehm? was that me that is perhaps about to get one donated? ;) | 19:51 |
| TheDeadCPU | the raph is nice. | 19:51 |
| emwe | hehe | 19:51 |
| stinebd | people badmouth the raph navi pad but at least it has enough buttons :P | 19:51 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 19:52 |
| stinebd | also it works so much better in linux than in winmo for some reason | 19:52 |
| stinebd | left/right are impossible to hit in winmo | 19:52 |
| TheDeadCPU | Yea, even Android Sense is more smooth then winmo Sense. | 19:52 |
| emwe | stupid question... when you say navipad... it is like LRUD keys? | 19:52 |
| stinebd | not really | 19:53 |
| stinebd | let me get you a picture | 19:53 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 19:53 |
| stinebd | http://www.letsgodigital.org/images/artikelen/681/htc-touch_pro.jpg | 19:53 |
| stinebd | that panel under the line is the navi pad | 19:53 |
| stinebd | 2 physical buttons with a capacitive pad on top | 19:53 |
| stinebd | and a third physical button in the middle of course | 19:54 |
| TheDeadCPU | Hmm.. | 19:54 |
| stinebd | it's a stupid concept and doesn't work reliably | 19:54 |
| stinebd | but at least it has more than 4 buttons | 19:54 |
| emwe | so you "slide" over it to "scroll"? | 19:54 |
| stinebd | yeah | 19:54 |
| stinebd | slide around the center button | 19:54 |
| arrrghhh | it's like a jogwheel | 19:54 |
| stinebd | in a circle | 19:54 |
| stinebd | unfortunately the "logical" buttons are handled in software | 19:55 |
| stinebd | and the software is (usually) winmo | 19:55 |
| stinebd | a bad combination... | 19:55 |
| emwe | in a circle sounds like only one axis? | 19:55 |
| stinebd | right | 19:55 |
| emwe | so it isn't really useful to navigate in a text editor you say? | 19:56 |
| stinebd | but there are four erogenous zones around the center button which you can also press down (in theory) | 19:56 |
| emwe | nice wording ;) | 19:56 |
| stinebd | yes | 19:56 |
| stinebd | like any true erogenous zone, it's very hard to find | 19:56 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 19:56 |
| emwe | whonder why they didn't call it g-pad then | 19:56 |
| stinebd | haha | 19:56 |
| TheDeadCPU | stinebd, those work on xdandroid but not in winmo lol | 19:57 |
| TheDeadCPU | emwe, Lol | 19:57 |
| stinebd | the entire navipad has always had issues in winmo for me | 19:58 |
| stinebd | even the function buttons | 19:58 |
| stinebd | works pretty well in android though, especially with the indicator lights | 19:58 |
| arrrghhh | yea, the navipad seems like a good idea, until you see how htc implemented it. | 19:58 |
| TheDeadCPU | I just pulled out the keybd and used those buttons. | 19:58 |
| arrrghhh | alright guys, goin home. cya later. | 20:03 |
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| emwe | hmpfs! device does not freeze on pm.sleep_mode=1 when not OCing... o bummer. should have tried that first. | 20:11 |
| emwe | but does when doing so... | 20:11 |
| emwe | anyways. gnight. | 20:11 |
| stinebd | night | 20:11 |
| emwe | hm... false alarm it seems | 20:12 |
| emwe | no no false alarm...wtf... now awake again | 20:12 |
| emwe | holy... crap. | 20:12 |
| emwe | bah. gnight ;) | 20:12 |
| TheDeadCPU | emwe, TURN OFF THE COMPUTER | 20:12 |
| TheDeadCPU | NOBODY NEEDS TO GET HARMED | 20:12 |
| emwe | lol | 20:12 |
| emwe | 2:15am... time to. yes. | 20:13 |
| emwe | gnight :) | 20:13 |
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| TheDeadCPU | It's 02:13 FAIL | 20:13 |
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| TheDeadCPU | You should get this stinebd http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/unisex/itdepartment/dac0/ | 21:10 |
| stinebd | eh | 21:26 |
| TheDeadCPU | lol | 21:26 |
| stinebd | if i worked at a place that would understand that, i'd consider it | 21:26 |
| TheDeadCPU | LOL | 21:27 |
| stinebd | i like the 11 cheers for binary shirt | 21:27 |
| TheDeadCPU | I want the Sudo one | 21:27 |
| arrrghhh | sudo make me a sandwich? | 21:28 |
| TheDeadCPU | Yes | 21:28 |
| arrrghhh | yea. | 21:28 |
| TheDeadCPU | It's nice. | 21:28 |
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| stinebd | http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/unisex/itdepartment/6692/ | 21:29 |
| stinebd | now THAT one i like | 21:29 |
| stinebd | if you could wear shirts on irc, i'd wear that one | 21:29 |
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| mkzet | somewone here? | 21:38 |
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| TheDeadCPU | I kinda want the cheat sheet too | 21:38 |
| TheDeadCPU | I kinda want the ((?=.*\d)(?=.*[a-z])(?=.*[A-Z]).{1-255}) shirt | 21:38 |
| TheDeadCPU | did u c what i did thar? | 21:38 |
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| TheDeadCPU | Aaah. PEBKAC | 21:39 |
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| arrrghhh | what up reef | 23:00 |
| Reefermattness | sup arrrghhh | 23:00 |
| arrrghhh | nada | 23:00 |
| arrrghhh | just livin the dream :P | 23:00 |
| Reefermattness | LOL | 23:01 |
| Reefermattness | Just released a theme im gonna try and get some of it on BLAZN now that im done with it. | 23:01 |
| Reefermattness | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=813497 | 23:02 |
| arrrghhh | yea you were showin me some mockups for that earlier | 23:02 |
| arrrghhh | purrrrdy :D | 23:02 |
| TheDeadCPU | Reefermattness, the battery icon was a bit.. weird | 23:04 |
| TheDeadCPU | Didn't fit the theme imo | 23:04 |
| Reefermattness | Youre not the only one that thinks that but Im so sick of circle batterys | 23:04 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 23:04 |
| TheDeadCPU | I HATE circle batteries | 23:04 |
| TheDeadCPU | eww | 23:05 |
| arrrghhh | Reefermattness, i think if you get rid of the #'s, and make it look a little 3dish... | 23:05 |
| arrrghhh | like the wifi/gps buttons are. | 23:05 |
| arrrghhh | same color | 23:05 |
| TheDeadCPU | But It's like.. It doesn't fit the rest of the status bar icons | 23:05 |
| Reefermattness | Thats the way the Galaxy S themes look for the battery actually, i just changed the color. | 23:05 |
| arrrghhh | huh | 23:05 |
| arrrghhh | odd... | 23:05 |
| Reefermattness | also not all of the icons are white | 23:06 |
| TheDeadCPU | It's time for this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GwjfUFyY6M&ob=av3e | 23:06 |
| Reefermattness | but, like i said, youre not the only one that thinks that :) | 23:06 |
| Reefermattness | No way its time for THIS! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfNluQ888g4 | 23:07 |
| arrrghhh | Reefermattness, hey i always wanted to know... what do you mean by 'removing bloatware' from the ref builds you get from mr stine? | 23:07 |
| Reefermattness | I just take some of the little things out we done use, the little widget guy that gives you tips, the launcher2, amazon mp3.... few other things. | 23:08 |
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| arrrghhh | yea | 23:20 |
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