Saturday, 2010-10-02

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camroNeoMatrixJR: still here ?04:32
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TheDeadCPUMorning _yoda_09:36
_yoda_How spangly, I've joined TDC09:36
TheDeadCPUNow this is the place if you run into any problems ;)09:36
_yoda_Still can't believe I'm finally playing silly buggers with my Diamond, but hey :D09:36
TheDeadCPU:p09:37
TheDeadCPUWhich Diamond is it?09:37
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TheDeadCPUShould say DIAM100 or somthing under the battery09:37
_yoda_It's the ONLY HTC phone I've not rooted/Hard SPL'd within 20 mins of it's arrival09:37
TheDeadCPUlol09:37
_yoda_Can't check atm, just flashing the radio09:37
TheDeadCPUFunfact. You don't need HardSPL for XDAndroid ;)09:38
_yoda_Well it pissed me off yesterday so it's finally getting the FULL treatment.09:38
TheDeadCPU:p09:38
DMzdaTheDeadCPU: Who logs this chan?09:38
_yoda_Spent over 2 hours driving around and it got a GPS lock at the end of the drive (thank GOD for my Desire)09:38
_yoda_Oh DM's in this chan too? Cool09:39
TheDeadCPUDMzda, that would be stinebd.09:39
DMzdaJoined just before you :)09:39
DMzdak09:39
TheDeadCPUNow this is a chan for the XDAndroid project so you know :p09:39
_yoda_Well good to see another familiar face in here :D09:40
DMzda*nick09:40
DMzda:P09:40
_yoda_Well that's the radio flashed09:40
TheDeadCPUwell.09:40
_yoda_TDC DIAM10009:41
TheDeadCPUCool09:41
TheDeadCPUYou're 99% surely not going to have problems then :p09:41
TheDeadCPUThe RAPH100 and DIAM100 is the most developed phones AFAIK09:41
_yoda_Good :D09:41
DMzdaWhy aren't there any Ops here?09:41
TheDeadCPUDMzda, Not needed.09:42
DMzdaStill09:42
TheDeadCPUBut there are a few they just don't have OP09:42
DMzdaIf a spammer was to spam09:42
DMzdaAh09:42
TheDeadCPUIt's just a quick /msg chanserv ban sdfhjks09:42
DMzdaIndeed09:42
_yoda_Right, watching the Youtube you made TDC, so semi afk09:42
TheDeadCPU_yoda_, You're smart and it's pretty straight forward :p09:43
TheDeadCPUkk09:43
_yoda_Is there much difference between doing it for the Fuze and the DAIM10009:43
TheDeadCPUMeh09:44
TheDeadCPUIt's just a diffrent Startup.txt :p09:44
Android001i wonder..09:44
_yoda_TDC but when I followed the link for the Diamod startup text it said there wasn't one09:45
TheDeadCPUUmm09:45
TheDeadCPUThere is one in the .rar file09:45
_yoda_http://xdandroid.com/w/index.php?title=Touch_Diamond&action=edit&redlink=109:45
TheDeadCPUWell09:45
_yoda_The rar I got from the official site only had an ext in it.09:45
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TheDeadCPUDownload the package and everything is there09:45
TheDeadCPUAh09:45
TheDeadCPUWrong rar then :p09:45
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TheDeadCPUhttp://htcandroid.xland.cz/XDANDROID.2.2.AOSP.FRX01.17.09.10.UPDATE_PACKAGE.7z09:46
_yoda_Found the update package, DL now09:46
_yoda_See, I'm having my usual Saturday. Brains function during the week. w/e nada09:46
TheDeadCPUhehe09:47
_yoda_almost DL. I hate living in the styx09:51
_yoda_Hmm, got to the startup.txt editing and can't read a thing on this screen09:57
_yoda_ignore that found the config file09:59
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_yoda_Hmm, failed to fine rootfs09:59
TheDeadCPUHmm..10:01
_yoda_I may have moved files into the wrong places, bear with me TDC, also trying to help out in VR at the same time10:04
TheDeadCPU:p10:04
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_yoda_Well someone just asked if there was a newer radio than the one they were using.10:05
TheDeadCPUAh10:06
TheDeadCPUCazH, you there?10:06
_yoda_Second boot writing blocks10:07
_yoda_Just had touch screen config10:08
TheDeadCPUWell then you're probably golden ;)10:08
TheDeadCPUbrb :p10:08
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_yoda_WB TDC10:12
TheDeadCPUBack10:12
_yoda_Looks like I'm in Android10:12
TheDeadCPUParty10:12
TheDeadCPUWioioioio10:14
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_yoda_Blooming connection, thanks for that TDC10:19
TheDeadCPUNo10:21
_yoda_No?10:22
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TheDeadCPUNp*10:26
_yoda_Ah ok LOL, got to go look after the missus, she reckons she has a cold.10:28
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arrrghhhcamro|away, i know it says your away... are you here?  lol14:34
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arrrghhhcamro|away, well when you do get back... let me know.  i see you're having upload issues, so i've reposted the newest kernel i had from you... i have a feeling there's a newer one from you.15:17
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IAmBillHi19:49
arrrghhhso are you having problems?19:50
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IAmBillNope19:51
IAmBillLike I said, it started out slow, but it seems to be picking up19:51
IAmBillWas still loading some stuff up, I guess19:51
arrrghhhyea19:51
IAmBillI'm all lost cause I never really messed with Android, though19:51
arrrghhhit's a little slow to start on the first boot19:51
IAmBillHow do I dump the little Android helper guy?19:52
arrrghhheven after the lock screen appears19:52
arrrghhhso click & hold him19:52
arrrghhhand it'll vibe19:52
arrrghhhand a trash can will show up at the bottom19:52
arrrghhhdrag the dude to the trash.19:52
IAmBillYes, I see19:52
IAmBillThanks19:52
arrrghhhhaha19:52
arrrghhhthat's kinda how android does things19:52
IAmBillSweet, I like this.19:52
arrrghhhlong press for menus19:52
arrrghhhmost things are dragndrop19:52
IAmBillIs there a way I can get Sense UI on this or do I need a new distribution?19:53
arrrghhhyou've see the key layout right?19:53
arrrghhhthere's no senseui development currently for 2.219:53
arrrghhhit was atrocious too19:53
IAmBillOk19:53
IAmBillI don't know the key layout19:53
IAmBillWhat is the equivlent to the home button?19:54
IAmBillOk so back19:54
IAmBillWindows key does some bottom menu19:54
arrrghhhyea19:54
IAmBillGonna try calling someone19:54
arrrghhhyou said you were on the faq page, right?19:54
arrrghhhmay not work so well :P19:54
arrrghhhi don't use Android for calls TBH19:55
IAmBillNo?19:55
IAmBillNo?19:55
IAmBillYeah, I'll check the FAQ.19:55
IAmBillI know it said the mic doesn't work for the speakerphone19:56
IAmBillDoes it work for regular phone?19:56
arrrghhheh19:56
arrrghhhdepends19:56
IAmBillIt seems to19:56
arrrghhhi've seen reports that gsm doesn't work for incoming calls19:56
IAmBillSound quality isn't great19:56
IAmBillBut not bad19:56
IAmBillAnd the mic seems to work19:56
IAmBillCalled 411 and was able to get it to understand NY NY19:57
JesusFreak316It worked for me a couple months ago...19:57
JesusFreak316incoming calls on gsm19:57
JesusFreak316Or do you mean a certain device?19:57
IAmBillSo far so good19:57
arrrghhhJesusFreak316, yea, i think there was a regression... i dunno, i can't reproduce it.19:57
IAmBillEh, don't worry about incoming. :p19:57
JesusFreak316Ah.19:57
IAmBillNobody calls my lame ass19:57
JesusFreak316:(19:57
arrrghhhJesusFreak316, i have no idea.  just wisps & rumor really.19:57
JesusFreak316Isn't that what it always is? :p19:58
arrrghhhhahaha19:58
arrrghhhwell when i can confirm it19:58
arrrghhhthen no :P19:58
IAmBillDo most market apps work?19:58
JesusFreak316So far I haven't seen much of that. Yeah, most should work.19:58
JesusFreak316Obviously camera based apps won't.19:58
TheDeadCPUAfaik, any app that doesn't use the camera works.19:58
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JesusFreak316Ninja'd you TheDeadCPU. :)19:59
TheDeadCPUNo you didn't.19:59
IAmBillYeah, that's fine.19:59
TheDeadCPUYou can't ninja a Viking Ninja.19:59
JesusFreak316I know you're a viking but ninja's new to me.19:59
JesusFreak316Every scandinavian's a viking.19:59
TheDeadCPUWell.20:00
TheDeadCPUI'm a stealth Viking.20:00
JesusFreak316I know a guy who's pretty much Odin.20:00
JesusFreak316Anyways, I know a guy with a Rhod and after updating to the newest zImage and rootfs it keeps saying his battery is dead on boot; anyone heard anything like that?20:01
arrrghhhJesusFreak316, nope, he's a LIAR!20:01
arrrghhhlol20:01
TheDeadCPUHappens on my friends rhod to.20:01
TheDeadCPUtoo*20:01
arrrghhhis he getting the newest from autobuild or a test kernel?20:01
JesusFreak316Autobuild.20:01
TheDeadCPUI did it on his phone D:20:01
arrrghhhOo?20:01
arrrghhhi guess i should test this20:01
JesusFreak316I wanted to try the test kernel but no 3d in that.20:01
arrrghhhi keep testing kernels that haven't been committed lol20:02
JesusFreak316I did the update for my friend too.20:02
TheDeadCPUWhen I tried it rebooted on some battery low message20:02
TheDeadCPUWhile in haret20:02
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arrrghhhhrm20:02
arrrghhhi'll try it20:02
JesusFreak316His would get to the lock screen then when he touches it it crashes.20:02
arrrghhhthat's very new tho20:02
arrrghhhtry an older kernel20:02
JesusFreak316What Rhod do you have arrrghhh?20:02
arrrghhhyou guys should know that about the bleeding edge stuff :P20:03
arrrghhh40020:03
arrrghhhRHOD40020:03
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JesusFreak316I wouldn't call a kernel with 60 positive ratings exactly bleeding edge...20:03
arrrghhhhow old is it?20:03
JesusFreak316Give me a sec to check.20:03
JesusFreak316It's the one from the 26th20:04
TheDeadCPUWell.20:04
TheDeadCPUI've got a boat to catch in like 10 hours so I should get some sleep.20:04
JesusFreak316I didn't see any other comments saying there's an issue. Let me check the rootfs.20:04
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JesusFreak316That's from the 17th.20:05
JesusFreak316My friend has  a RHOD 210.20:05
JesusFreak316Hmm.20:05
JesusFreak316Well, I'll see him again Monday and see if deleting data.img helped.20:06
JesusFreak316Yeah, just try the newest autobuild zImage and rootfs and see what happens.20:07
arrrghhhyea that's the newest20:08
arrrghhhsurprised there's that many comments already20:08
arrrghhhmore&more peoples using it20:08
JesusFreak316Was that the one that introduce hw3d for RHOD?20:08
arrrghhhuhm20:09
arrrghhhi think that was a few kernels ago20:09
arrrghhhnot sure20:09
IAmBillErm... so I'm downloading apps... then it freezes... now the XDAndroid loading animation comes up20:09
arrrghhhbut it may have been that commit that was the regression haha20:09
IAmBillDid it reset or something?20:09
arrrghhhIAmBill, yea.20:10
IAmBillBleh20:10
arrrghhhit's not perfect :D20:10
JesusFreak316Looks like the 3d update was 20100925_10141920:11
JesusFreak316I'll try that next time I see him.20:11
arrrghhheh20:11
arrrghhhhw3d doesn't seem quite optimized yet20:11
JesusFreak316For RHOD or in general?20:12
arrrghhhwell definitely moreso for RHOD20:12
JesusFreak316The reports of neocore sound pretty reasonable consider RHOD is wvga.20:12
arrrghhhit was just enabled20:12
arrrghhhi don't see the point tho, are you playing games?20:12
arrrghhhmost whine about how they have hw3d why can't they play games now20:13
JesusFreak316he might.20:13
arrrghhhprobably won't work :P20:13
JesusFreak316I see so it's not so much performance optimizations as compatibility?20:14
arrrghhhjust takes the load off of the main cpu20:14
arrrghhhfor gfx rendering.  should mean better/easier gfx rendering.20:14
JesusFreak316Yeah, I did notice his phone seemed a little choppier without hw3d than mine was with it.20:14
arrrghhhkinda like having dedicated video card or on-board that shares/steals memory.20:15
arrrghhhnot exactly like that, but similar.20:15
JesusFreak316yeah.20:15
arrrghhhnow instead of using software to render gfx, some of that load can be put onto a piece of hardware - the gfx controller.20:15
JesusFreak316But not all that much of Android is 3d accelerated right?20:16
JesusFreak316Not like IOS is at least.20:16
arrrghhhnot sure how to answer that20:16
JesusFreak316I mean as far a smoothness of the app tray and homescreen goes.20:17
arrrghhhi could make some wild assumptions, but i'm not that knowledgeable dude ;)  phh or stinebd may be better coherts here.20:17
JesusFreak316I thought I remember one of them saying that when hw3d was fixed on tp it wasn't going to magically make everything smoother.20:17
JesusFreak316Something like that.20:17
arrrghhhyes, that would be an accurate statement haha20:18
JesusFreak316:)20:18
arrrghhhpeople just think they're in there flipping switches20:18
arrrghhhi know that's how people at work are.  'just flip the switch' - sir, it's not that easy lol20:18
JesusFreak316Hey, guys, lets stop screwing everyone over and set the "enable camera" flag to 1 and watch the donations rolll in!20:19
arrrghhhseriously guys... c'mon.20:19
arrrghhhhaha20:19
arrrghhhi know acl is trying to get angry birds working... i'm sure he'll be able to feed his family for a month on all the donations if he gets that working lol20:20
JesusFreak316hahahaha20:20
JesusFreak316YES!20:20
JesusFreak316I'm so sick of sharing my sisters ipod touch.20:20
arrrghhhyou're one of those people!!20:20
arrrghhhi've never heard of the game, but whew everyone & their brother came out of the woodwork on the forums for that game.20:20
JesusFreak316What people? Apple fan? Most definitely not.20:20
JesusFreak316Angry Birds fan? Yes20:21
JesusFreak316:020:21
arrrghhhyes20:21
JesusFreak316:)20:21
arrrghhhangry birds fan20:21
arrrghhh"you people"20:21
arrrghhh:P20:21
JesusFreak316lol20:21
JesusFreak316You ever tried it?20:21
arrrghhhnope20:21
JesusFreak316It'll all make sense when you do.20:21
arrrghhhnever heard of it before like i said!20:21
arrrghhhit sounds horrible TBH20:21
JesusFreak316Lots of games sound horrible in description but are definitely not.20:22
JesusFreak316Especially minecraft.20:22
JesusFreak316But you've never played that either.20:22
arrrghhhnope20:23
arrrghhhand eh20:23
arrrghhh^^ for angry birds.  just watched a trailer.20:23
JesusFreak316It's just so addicting.20:24
arrrghhhi don't really play games on my phone, so that may be part of the problem.20:24
arrrghhhin winmo it's too much to ask it to be a freakin music player20:24
JesusFreak316haha20:25
arrrghhhi can't wait until the NAND is more refined20:25
JesusFreak316I just loooove my droid emu.20:25
arrrghhhfull NAND doesn't look good.20:25
arrrghhhdroid emu?  what for your pc?20:25
JesusFreak316Emulates everything before the ps1 for $420:25
JesusFreak316nah, android20:25
arrrghhhyou can use that on your RHOD?20:25
JesusFreak316Currently playing through metroid.20:25
arrrghhhor whatever phone you have on XDAndroid?20:25
JesusFreak316Fuze actually but yeah.20:25
arrrghhhreally?20:26
arrrghhhdamn20:26
arrrghhhthat's kinda surprising20:26
JesusFreak316It's NICE20:26
arrrghhhconsidering that'll work but angry birds won't...20:26
JesusFreak316Even GBA runs really well.20:26
arrrghhhhow do you get PS1 games on it?20:26
arrrghhhdoes it come with games?  i assume it's just the emulator for $420:26
JesusFreak316Everything BEFORE ps1.20:26
JesusFreak316Just emulator.20:26
arrrghhhoh20:27
arrrghhhi see20:27
JesusFreak316I use fpsece in winmo for ps1 and you just rip the iso on your computer.20:27
arrrghhhsame ROMs as always then.20:27
JesusFreak316Yeah of course.20:27
arrrghhhhuh20:27
arrrghhhhow is the interface tho?  i'd rather play on the actual console lol20:27
IAmBillSo, pretty cool.20:28
arrrghhhi saw quakeIII on a droid X but that has multitouch20:28
IAmBillNot quite ready for prime-time, though.20:28
JesusFreak316not bad. Obviously not the same but it's playable.20:28
arrrghhhIAmBill, nope.  nobody said it was :D20:28
JesusFreak316RPG's work great.20:28
arrrghhhyea, i'd imagine so20:28
JesusFreak316Yeah, I don' think it will run all that well unless you're using donut.20:29
arrrghhhoh is that what you're doing?20:29
JesusFreak316There was some regression with hw3d between donut and eclair that makes quatke run super crappy.20:29
IAmBillThey should have saved the tastier desserts for later releases.20:29
JesusFreak316nah, droid emu works fine on froyo. Just quake 3 only works on donut.20:29
arrrghhhhuh20:29
arrrghhhoh i see20:29
arrrghhhJesusFreak316, you only give part of the answer... lol20:30
JesusFreak316Quake 3's not really worth it though.20:30
JesusFreak316What was the question again? :P20:30
arrrghhhno worries.  i just made assumptions20:30
arrrghhhhuh20:31
arrrghhhnew zimage, my battery definitely is acting dead20:31
IAmBillAnyone use EnergyROM, out of curiousity.20:31
arrrghhhdamn20:31
IAmBill?20:31
JesusFreak316I do.20:31
arrrghhhdidn't even let me unlock it20:31
arrrghhhIAmBill, i do as well20:31
JesusFreak316YAY a confirmed bug!20:31
IAmBillAbout to update that, now. It's supposed to be much snappier than it was about five months ago20:32
arrrghhheh, it's always been pretty good20:32
arrrghhhjust depends on which version you grab.20:32
IAmBillIt is good20:32
IAmBillBut I always had a few memory problems20:32
arrrghhhhe has builds from old 6.1 and the newest 6.520:32
JesusFreak316haven't updated to the newest one yet though. I'm waiting for him to switch over to sense 2019 for extra speed.20:32
IAmBillWhich are supposed to have been fixed.20:32
IAmBillAnd of course as the 6.5.3 builds get better, the ROM gets faster20:33
arrrghhhtrying to find the new commits20:33
JesusFreak316arrrghhh: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fslideme.org%2Fapplication%2Fdroidemu&rct=j&q=droidemu&ei=QM-nTNfZHMWAlAe2zOjIDA&usg=AFQjCNEAhjlALrHDw9atNcyUp3ziY6lLBQ20:33
arrrghhhblargh20:33
IAmBillAre you guys using the 6.5.3 version?20:33
JesusFreak31621679?20:33
IAmBillProbably20:34
JesusFreak316I think both builds have start menu at the bottom now.20:34
IAmBillThe latest is 2168020:34
JesusFreak316For what device?20:34
arrrghhhthose aren't the new commits20:34
IAmBillRhodium in my case20:34
arrrghhhit's $6 lol20:34
JesusFreak316Ah, yours is newer.20:34
JesusFreak316Oh yeah, it went up in price shortly after I got it. still a good deal considering snesoid alone is like $420:34
JesusFreak316Uh-oh, looks like he might be violating the gpl by using snes9x without releases sources. maybe he'll have to make it free. :)20:36
IAmBillWhat are you guys speaking about?20:36
arrrghhhIAmBill, 21916 looks like the newest20:36
arrrghhhemulators for android20:36
JesusFreak316The droid emulator I posted a link to above.20:36
JesusFreak316Disclaimer: I only use roms I own a copy of the game.20:37
IAmBill21916 is 6.5 - 21680 is 6.5.320:37
IAmBillOh20:37
IAmBillI haven't even gotten into emulators, yet20:37
IAmBillI'm just working on Google Maps, for now20:37
JesusFreak316This was my first ever paid app, lol.20:37
IAmBillIs it a good one?20:38
IAmBillBetter than SmartGear for WinMo?20:38
JesusFreak316Yep.20:38
JesusFreak316Haven't tried that but it emulates golden sun for gba at near full speed which pocket gba for winmo never got close to.20:38
IAmBillThen it's good20:38
IAmBillSmartGear doesn't do GBA last I heard20:38
IAmBillAnd it runs well on XDAndroid?20:39
JesusFreak316I just got an HTC Fuze overclocked to 691 mhz so yeah.20:39
JesusFreak316I'm not so sure snes runs flawlessly though.20:39
JesusFreak316Mainly just playing through nes metroid right now. That's actually a little choppier than golden sun somehow.20:40
IAmBillI've been concerned about the Rhodium overclocking utilities20:40
IAmBillI'll get the brass to try it eventually20:40
JesusFreak316In winmo or android?20:40
arrrghhhwhere are the zImage commit changelogs?!?!20:40
IAmBillI OCed my Samsung Blackjack II a few years back20:40
IAmBillWinMo20:40
JesusFreak316arrrghhh: Hover over the download button.20:41
arrrghhhah that's right.20:41
JesusFreak316I haven't had too much luck overclocking in winmo.20:41
arrrghhhhrm20:43
arrrghhhstill don't see the changelog tho20:43
JesusFreak316You on glemsom's site?20:43
arrrghhhyea20:43
JesusFreak316it works fine for me in chrome...20:44
arrrghhhyou see the changelog at that site tho?20:44
arrrghhhi can't find it.20:44
arrrghhhthe zimages.googlecode.com site20:44
JesusFreak316You hovering over the download button?20:44
JesusFreak316http://glemsom.users.anapnea.net/android2/htc-msm-linux/20:45
arrrghhhop20:45
arrrghhhwait20:45
JesusFreak316That's the normal site I thought.20:45
arrrghhhi think i found it20:45
arrrghhhyep20:45
arrrghhhhttp://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm20:45
arrrghhhhrm20:46
arrrghhhlooks like the last change was setting that limit on 3d to 107mb20:46
JesusFreak316it says the sime thing at glemsom's site I linked to.20:46
arrrghhhi... don't see that.20:47
JesusFreak316Hover over the download link.20:47
arrrghhhoh i see what you're saying.  jesus JesusFreak31620:47
arrrghhhLOL20:47
JesusFreak316FAIL20:47
JesusFreak316lol20:47
arrrghhhi don't think i'm doing enough drugs.20:48
arrrghhhhold on20:48
JesusFreak316Not enough? Ohhhh man...20:48
arrrghhhahhhhhh20:48
arrrghhhthat's better20:48
arrrghhh:P20:48
JesusFreak316Took a couple lsd sugar cubes?20:48
arrrghhhhahaha not quite20:48
arrrghhhg2g20:49
arrrghhhi'll cya guys20:49
JesusFreak316See ya.20:49
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XirXesIs there anyone here who could figure out why the direction keys on the rhod are broken.22:39
XirXesI know its a kernal issue as opposed to a keymap issue. But I cant offer any other info without knowing what to provide22:40
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