Thursday, 2010-09-23

RCarrotSevenZlets take a look at what htc has to say about that00:01
RCarrotSevenZheh00:01
RCarrotSevenZi think there was a site that what producing htc-like products00:04
stinebdyeah, it's called china00:04
stinebdlots of fakes from there00:04
RCarrotSevenZreason why i mention this is because i never heard of a touch diamond200:05
RCarrotSevenZor is there actually such a device?00:05
arrrghhhyea, it exists00:06
stinebdtopaz00:07
RCarrotSevenZah, i see00:08
RCarrotSevenZi still cant believe this thing costs that much! http://www.wiredia.com/motorola-aura-diamond-description.html00:19
arrrghhhhey that site has a low price promise tho00:30
arrrghhhso you may as well buy it, that's the cheapest you'll find it lol00:30
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RCarrotSevenZthe day i buy that thing is the day i shell out 600 for that desire someoen was attempting to sell...00:31
arrrghhh"despite the lack of 3g or wifi"... wtf?!?00:32
arrrghhh2 mp camera00:32
arrrghhhthat thing is a joke00:32
RCarrotSevenZExternal Memory      * - No00:32
RCarrotSevenZHA!00:32
arrrghhhlol00:32
RCarrotSevenZon the plus side though00:33
RCarrotSevenZthey will honor site prices00:33
RCarrotSevenZi bought a cell from them and informed them of a price difference and they comp'd it on the spot once they looked it up00:34
RCarrotSevenZagain... IF you find a lower price...00:35
RCarrotSevenZalright, i'm out pplz00:38
RCarrotSevenZdone my reading for today00:38
RCarrotSevenZ:p00:38
arrrghhhpeace00:38
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whyhi, when will there be a new kernel update?08:32
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xdandroidNew kernel available (20100923_161658) at http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20100923_161658-package.tar.bz210:27
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hamagcgood morning guys11:58
TheDeadCPUMornin'11:58
hamagccamro: http://pastebin.com/AmeYTiwn is the battlog. it's only 160k so something tells me that something went wrong somewhere12:03
hamagci could have sworn at one point it was 12mb lastnight so i dunno12:03
camrohi12:03
camronow it is ok12:03
hamagcthe screen did turn off of me a couple of times. didn't seem to want to stay on but the battery lasted about 8 hours overall12:03
camrothen the battery was empty ..12:03
camrowell i can see there only: 14.000 - 1200 ...12:05
hamagci can see batt level went from 100 to 0 so maybe it was everything?12:05
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camroso, it run out in ~10hrs ?12:08
camrowell, this % in the log are the calculated % ... on screen - you see different data (because there is another algo, to calc the average of latest values ..12:09
hamagcahh i see. yes less than 10 hours12:09
camrowell, if you give me 10min ... i will include your data now in my xls ... then we see how it is going on your phone :)12:09
TheDeadCPUOooo12:09
TheDeadCPUI should try XDAndroid for daily use again.12:09
camrozthen we can see it in graph dia12:09
TheDeadCPUSeeing as my Desire is sold.12:10
hamagcwoot :)12:10
TheDeadCPU12 days till I got my Desire Z.12:11
TheDeadCPUget*12:11
hamagchaha i was wondering when someone from the hd2 dev team was going to get mad about people on ebay selling their work12:14
TheDeadCPUThey are?12:14
hamagcoh ya, you haven't searched ebay lately have you?12:14
hamagcebay and craigslist i see postings everywhere with hd2 android12:15
TheDeadCPUlol12:15
hamagchttp://www.xda-developers.com/windows-mobile/android-porting-scam-hits-ebay/12:16
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JUSEFhi guys12:27
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JUSEFis there someone already develop with android12:28
JUSEF2.212:28
TheDeadCPUoO12:28
JUSEFi'm begineer in android12:28
JUSEFnow i'm developping an sipmle application with android 2.2/ sqlite on eclipse galileo12:29
arrrghhhJUSEF, yes, i think there are some peoples...12:29
arrrghhhoh that's not what they're doing d00d12:29
arrrghhhthey're busy porting Android to non-native devices...12:30
JUSEFarrrghhh, thnx12:30
JUSEFwhat? i dont understand??12:30
hamagcour devices run windows mobile from the factory12:30
hamagcwe are making them run android12:30
hamagcwe don't do application development in here.12:31
JUSEFah ok12:31
JUSEFthanks12:31
JUSEFsorry12:31
JUSEFbye12:31
hamagcnp12:31
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camrohamagc: something is wrong with your battery12:31
hamagcuhoh12:31
camrowell, hmm - i need a place to show you ..12:32
camroor maybe something happen on a range ...12:32
camrogive me PM your email ..12:32
hamagcme @ yahoo12:32
TheDeadCPUhamagc[at]yahoo.com12:33
TheDeadCPU?12:33
hamagcmhmm12:33
TheDeadCPUI feel smart.12:33
hamagcand i take donations lol12:33
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arrrghhhhamagc, lol for what?12:33
hamagclol my good looks :P12:34
arrrghhhbwhahahaha12:35
arrrghhhhow's that workin out for you?12:35
hamagclol i'm broke12:35
hamagccouldn't even get fries at mcd's12:35
TheDeadCPUlol12:35
TheDeadCPUarrrghhh, I'm a poor bloke right?12:36
arrrghhhpoor... in what way12:36
arrrghhhmonetairly, no.12:36
TheDeadCPUlol12:36
arrrghhhmonetarily12:36
TheDeadCPUI've just sold me Desire.12:36
arrrghhhnice12:36
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camrook, xls is on the way .. and you should got it ...12:37
hamagcgot it12:37
hamagcheh goes from 1:48 to 7:21?12:38
camrook, if you look there ... you see:12:38
camrono from 0 to .. or ?12:38
camromom12:38
camrosee "C"12:38
camroconvert time12:38
hamagcright12:39
camrowhen you startet - can't know ..12:39
hamagcbecause it's listed at 0 time?12:39
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camrowait .. .somethin is wrong ...12:40
camroi miss data12:40
camrothe time is relativ ..12:40
camromom12:40
camroforget the xls12:42
camroi deleted too much lines ...12:42
camromust doit again ...12:43
camromom12:43
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camrohamagc ?12:44
camrois it possible ? 14.000sec = +4hrs12:44
camro1411303:3512:44
camro14113-> 03:3512:44
camrothen it was empty ?12:44
camrothats very short - what have you done ?12:45
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hamagcwait wha?12:54
camroso, sent ...12:54
hamagcdidn't do anything with the phone. pretty much sat there the whole time, i just checked it every so often to make sure nothing was going on and the screen was on12:55
camronow you can se, that it must now find the values for raph, it is complet different to blackstone ...12:55
camrobut very short run out of batt ...12:55
camrodo you tap all 10min on screen ?12:56
hamagcya i was expecting it to go longer12:56
hamagcno i gave it a few hours inbetween12:56
hamagcradio was on data and wifi off12:56
camrowell, the consume is really high ..12:56
hamagclasted from about 5pm to about 12:30am12:56
hamagccrap i have a meeting, be back in 1012:56
TheDeadCPUMeow.12:56
camrothis test - the system run out of batt in 3:33 !!!12:56
camrook, you can take later a look, i must also go - maybe back in 3hrs ..12:57
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TheDeadCPUphh!13:10
phh?13:10
TheDeadCPUAny idea why "tab" isn't working on XDAndroid?13:10
TheDeadCPUAt least not for me.13:10
phhnot really13:10
TheDeadCPUIt annoys me.13:11
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TheDeadCPUAm I allowed to blame you?13:13
hamagctab has never really worked13:13
hamagcwell it works but not as i would expect13:13
TheDeadCPUI want it to work :(13:13
hamagctab usually inserts a tab, instead of going to say the next line13:14
TheDeadCPUI want it to go to the next box and or line13:14
hamagcya that would be nice13:15
arrrghhhuse the arrow keys13:17
arrrghhhwhat i do...13:17
TheDeadCPUlol13:17
hamagcor the screen lol13:18
arrrghhhha, i just assumed you didn't want your hands to leave the keyboard13:18
arrrghhhthat's what always drove me nuts about tab not working :P13:18
TheDeadCPUexactly13:18
arrrghhhhands.. must... not... leave... keyboard!  continually convinces me that i don't want a phone without a real kb :D13:19
TheDeadCPUlol13:19
TheDeadCPUI WANT MY DZ NOW.13:19
TheDeadCPULP+ <313:21
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arrrghhhdo you have another phone?13:58
arrrghhhi would assume you do13:58
TheDeadCPUI'm using my Touch Pro.13:58
arrrghhhif you're like edvard, the freakin jay leno of cell phones.13:58
arrrghhhah13:58
arrrghhhnice13:58
TheDeadCPUWell. I am, but he's got work so he can afford it.13:58
arrrghhhlol13:59
TheDeadCPUI've only got my scholarship.13:59
arrrghhhyea, i wish i was paid even a fraction of what others in my industry get paid.13:59
arrrghhhi guess i am paid a fraction13:59
arrrghhhi just wish the fraction was bigger.13:59
TheDeadCPUWhat do you do?13:59
arrrghhhtelco13:59
arrrghhhvoip crap mostly13:59
arrrghhhdata circuits13:59
arrrghhhnetwork monitoring administration14:00
arrrghhhet14:00
arrrghhhc14:00
TheDeadCPUlol14:00
TheDeadCPUMeow :314:00
arrrghhhhaha14:00
arrrghhhyea, they just had one of those forbes "what the average schmo in X position would make"14:00
TheDeadCPUI'm a dirty kitteh14:00
arrrghhhand they had data/voice technician14:00
TheDeadCPUlol14:00
arrrghhhand no... that's scary.14:00
arrrghhhi'm not talkin 'engineer'14:01
arrrghhhjust tech14:01
arrrghhhaverage pay was just shy of 90k.14:01
TheDeadCPUI've yet to see you on #Connect-UTB14:01
arrrghhhi know you're a dude, and dudes are NOT allowed to be "dirty kitteh's"14:01
TheDeadCPUEven though it's dead.14:01
arrrghhhyea i went there once or twice14:01
TheDeadCPUWell I am one.14:01
arrrghhhit was always dead haha14:01
arrrghhhkeep it to yourself.14:01
TheDeadCPUI'm just saying it to make people wtf.14:02
arrrghhhor at least to #connect-utb14:02
TheDeadCPUAkApakaPaka just joined #Connect-UTB   o____O14:02
arrrghhhso you're the mariyln manson of the internet?  going door-to-door trying to scare make ppl say wtf14:02
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arrrghhhlol that should be good14:02
arrrghhhhahahaha14:02
TheDeadCPUlol14:02
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TheDeadCPUmy mic isn't working....14:15
arrrghhhdid you use search14:20
arrrghhhlol14:20
TheDeadCPUlol14:22
TheDeadCPUno14:22
TheDeadCPUshould i?14:23
arrrghhhperhaps.14:35
arrrghhhi've seen a lot of odd reports with the mic tho14:35
TheDeadCPUI've done it.14:35
arrrghhhnot sure which to believe.14:35
TheDeadCPUMic now works.14:35
arrrghhh:D haha good14:36
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CyberScript32hey guys15:13
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Jeff_XDAhow to create a ext partition???15:30
Jeff_XDArom manager isn't workin here :(15:30
hamagclinux15:34
Jeff_XDAi use win 715:34
hamagccan't do ext partitions in windows, need linux15:35
hamagcor gparted which you can make a bootable disk from and format your card15:35
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Jeff_XDAhum15:37
Jeff_XDAthat's what i need...15:37
Jeff_XDArom manager didnt works15:37
Jeff_XDAso sad15:37
Jeff_XDAmany ppl already uses the Desire HD rom15:37
Jeff_XDAand i want it too15:38
hamagcwhat device?15:38
Jeff_XDAregular Desire15:38
hamagcwell that doesn't sound good15:43
hamagcbut atlease we're warned of a netsplit this time lol15:44
hamagcJeff_XDA: this isn't a support room for desires, this is for winmo phones running xdandroid on them. so i really don't know what advice to give you.15:45
Jeff_XDA[hamagc]: nope15:46
Jeff_XDAto Desire is already released15:46
Jeff_XDA:D15:46
hamagchuh?15:46
Jeff_XDAit was released these days15:47
Jeff_XDADesire HD to Desire15:47
hamagcright but this isn't the channel for that15:47
hamagcso you won't find any help in here15:47
Jeff_XDAi just wanna some help to create an EXT part15:48
hamagci will assume your speaking about your nand on the device? really the only thing i can tell you is that you can use gparted to format to ext2. other than that i know nothing.15:49
Jeff_XDAreading a tutorial here...15:49
Jeff_XDAi think it could work15:49
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arrrghhhthere's partition tools you can use in windows to format to ext2.16:13
Jeff_XDAtnx16:14
Jeff_XDAi did16:14
Jeff_XDA:D16:14
arrrghhhwell there ya go16:14
Jeff_XDArom manager worked16:14
Jeff_XDAupdated16:14
Jeff_XDA:D16:14
arrrghhhnever heard of that one16:14
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GabrysHi guys. Big thanks for Android 2.2 final :-)16:23
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GabrysI'm waiting for camera support only. Good to know only kernel support is needed16:41
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hamagchopefully bzo can work something out on the camera shortly16:50
Gabrysalso is there any change to get hardware 3D working on Rhodium?16:50
Gabrysit's much less important than camera for me though16:51
hamagcask arrrghhh i'm not sure what the stats on the tp2 are16:52
arrrghhhhw3d is not ready on the tp2 yet16:52
arrrghhhacl said he's getting no registers from it16:52
hamagchmm lets apply for sprint again16:54
hamagcone of these days they will give me a job16:54
arrrghhhlol16:54
arrrghhhi could work in a retail store... no thank you.16:54
hamagcpsh that would be too easy, selling phones all day16:55
hamagcsmart phones at that16:55
arrrghhh& boring16:55
hamagci could sell these in my sleep16:55
hamagcboring yes but easy too16:55
arrrghhhwhat are you trying to work for their NOC?16:55
hamagcbut i want in as a tech consultant16:55
hamagcno corporate store16:55
hamagcnow?16:55
hamagcnoc?16:55
arrrghhhoh16:55
arrrghhhnetwork operations center16:55
hamagcoh we don't have those out here anywhere lol16:56
arrrghhhi forget not everyone works in my field :P16:56
hamagcall we have is the one store16:56
arrrghhhdamn16:56
arrrghhhwhere do you live?16:56
hamagci want to get in for business sales but thats a pain apparently16:56
hamagcpalmdale ca16:56
arrrghhhah16:56
hamagcand i'm trying to avoid driving to los angeles every day lol16:56
arrrghhhnot that close to palm desert16:57
arrrghhhlol16:57
hamagclol no a few hours16:57
arrrghhhwe have a few branches out there16:57
hamagcfor a career, i hate where i work16:57
hamagclive*16:57
arrrghhhLOL16:57
arrrghhhi got ya16:57
hamagcthere is nothing local for corporations unless it's aerospace16:57
hamagcand i don't have the paper with my name on it for aerospace16:58
arrrghhhyea i would think you would need one of those to work in that industry16:59
hamagclol man that hurts16:59
arrrghhhmy roommate in college was studying aerospace engineering16:59
hamagci am willing to accept under $9 an hour17:00
arrrghhhyea, painful doesn't being to describe it.17:00
hamagci would love to get into aerospace but no money for school17:00
hamagcmaybe i'll just do parttime17:00
hamagci do love my current job17:00
hamagcwhen times are good17:00
arrrghhh?17:00
hamagc(times are bad right now)17:00
hamagci do commercial insurance17:01
arrrghhhah, commission based?17:01
hamagccommission with a draw17:01
hamagcbut the last couple years really hurt17:02
xdandroidNew kernel available (20100923_224919) at http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20100923_224919-package.tar.bz217:02
hamagcwoot117:02
hamagcwell thats nothing really cool17:05
arrrghhhlol17:06
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xdandroidNew kernel available WITH WORKING CAMERA ZOMGHAX (20100923_224919CAMERACAMERACAMERA) at http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20100923_224919-package.tar.bz217:13
arrrghhhwhat?17:14
arrrghhhhuh?17:14
stinebdhah17:15
stinebdarrrghhh duped17:15
stinebdthat was to appease hamagc :P17:15
arrrghhhlol17:15
arrrghhhcruel & unusual17:16
stinebdnah, cruel and unusual would be copying that line and pasting it on the forums17:16
stinebdwhich gives me an idea17:16
arrrghhhoh god17:17
arrrghhhDON'T DO IT!!!17:17
stinebdbut we need the nonrefundable donations!17:17
arrrghhhlol17:17
arrrghhhi'm not sure how many people would donate w/o testing tho17:17
arrrghhhi'm sure you'd get a few :P17:17
hamagcwtf?17:19
hamagcthats just not right17:19
hamagcxdandroid: say stinebd is mean17:19
hamagcehh i tried17:20
stinebdi turned off say17:20
stinebdwhich made my evil plot that much more difficult to execute17:20
stinebdi had to go to the ircquote well17:20
arrrghhhlol17:21
hamagcaw!17:21
hamagci feel so cheated17:21
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R^7ZHmmm... nice! Twice in one day eh?17:25
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R^7ZOh and that would be very interesting to see how many on xda would respond to a message like that!17:26
R^7Zxda / ppcg and maybe mobilisim17:26
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R^7ZPeace...17:54
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hamagcdata?18:31
camroah, good you will test it again ?18:31
camrohave you seen the xls ?18:31
hamagcdefinitally. i did see the xls18:31
camrothe blackone is the voltage ..18:31
camroif i adjust the parameter - then it will be like RED18:32
camrobut as you can see ... it seems to be, that on 0:50 to 1_05 something was wrong ...18:32
hamagcya i saw that18:32
camrolike as something happen there18:32
hamagcit may have been when i received a txt msg18:33
hamagctonight when i do it i will put it in flightmode so i don't have to worry about that again18:33
camro(if battery patch is ready, then we can concentrate on battery consume, then we can see such kind of bad things ...18:33
camrothis is my idea behind the hole battery baby ..18:33
camrobecause - normally the algo for battery is almost cosmetic, but it is very important, that then the users can help us to see, whats going on, and when does this happen ..18:34
hamagcthats a damned nifty chart though18:34
camroif you look to xls - and take the first range til it falls down... then think that it would go stable to the later line ... then i would miss there ~1hrs ...18:35
camrowhat i mean - in this 0:50 to 1:05 the battery consume ~2hrs ..18:36
camrowhich consumed in 20minutes ..18:36
hamagcya but it is also showing that i was done in 3.5 hours.18:37
camroalso - if you look to the thread in XDA on blackstone on my first kernel for battery, there you can see a lot of diagrams how a battery curve should be, (if constant drain)18:37
camrowell, the 3,5 hrs are not so strange ...18:37
camrocould be, the display was very bright ... or also it could be, that your radio have done nonsense or whatever ...18:38
camrotherefore it is importan to watch before disconnecting the cable:18:38
arrrghhhyea i don't think cdma radios are fully optimized... i still have a lot of weirdness with my radio.18:38
camro1.) catlog should be quiet ...(nothing should be there running)18:38
hamagcya tonight i'll do it in flightmode so radio is out of the question18:39
camrowell, if we have a possiblitity of logging and good % vol, then the users would see this, if it falls in 1hrs from 100 to 10% and then we can react ..18:39
hamagcbut i agree, our radio sucks lol18:39
camrobut with the % which is now in android .. you can't use it18:39
hamagcya it's all over the place the way it is now18:39
camroand normal users are not looking on temp, voltage, current, etc ..18:40
camroso - for me, this battery patch is only to have a tool for watching the battery - overview for normal users ..18:41
hamagci think it's a great idea and a needed step in the right direction18:41
camroof course .. before often my phone switched off, because was thinking there is only 5% left .. then switched to WM, and then i had 30% *GRINZ18:41
hamagclol18:42
camroso, a lot of users are thing, that this patch make the duration and consume of battery betters .. this is not true ...18:42
camrothinking ..18:42
camroand wm algo - is not a linear to time life ..18:43
hamagcplacebo effect lol18:43
arrrghhhyea, that's a big issue with battery testing.18:44
camroi checked against the optimum of LINEAR ... +-15%18:44
camrothats a big different ...18:44
camromaybe you have seen that in wm -> sometimes you see there: 25% -> 5min later ... 5%18:44
camroanyhow...18:45
hamagci have18:45
camronow, we are on opensource ...and ... WE CA DO :)18:46
camronow, we are on opensource ...and ... WE CAN DO :)18:46
hamagclol <3 open source18:46
camromost parts ..18:47
camrooki, i will go to bed ... cu18:47
hamagceverything but the proprietry crap that we can't use18:47
hamagclol gn camro, see you tomorrow18:47
camrook18:47
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hamagcok gn guys19:24
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