Friday, 2010-09-24

arrrghhhman, tumbleweeds tonight.00:04
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stinebdcooool00:10
stinebdhttp://bugs.xdandroid.com00:10
stinebdbugmonkeys get full access00:11
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stinebdxdandroid: seen babijoee00:22
xdandroidstinebd: babijoee was last seen in #xdandroid 5 days, 23 hours, 17 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <babijoee> xdandroid: later tell phh hey how do you disable LED flash after you enable it?00:22
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arrrghhhstinebd, where'd that come from?  lol00:43
arrrghhhdid you seriously just whip that up?00:44
stinebdpretty standard bugzilla installation00:44
arrrghhhnice00:44
stinebdprobably lots of customization left00:44
arrrghhhyea, it looks basic00:44
arrrghhhbut hey00:44
arrrghhhit'll hopefully provide what we need00:44
arrrghhha way to get kernels out there for testing00:44
arrrghhhthe only problem i see is a good method of letting people know that there is new stuff to download...00:45
stinebdwell it's more of a way for centralized feedback00:46
stinebdas opposed to 17 different forum threads00:46
arrrghhhyea00:47
stinebdalso serves as patch collection, so now people have somewhere to go when i say "patches welcome"00:47
arrrghhhindeed, getting stuff upstream seems difficult00:47
arrrghhhnot that i would know, whatsoever lol00:48
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arrrghhhah well gf is layin the hammer down00:55
arrrghhhcya later stinebd, have a good one.00:56
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stinebdbye00:59
stinebdjust missed him00:59
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hceuterpeis ACL the main person working on 3D for Rhodium?02:18
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DjBathi there... any one that can help me with an htc touch diamond?07:08
kalemasDjBat: what's wrong with it?07:15
DjBatneed a guide on how til install xdandroid...07:19
kalemaslook here http://xdandroid.com07:20
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DjBatnoob here... need help, i have installed xdandroid and now i need help on how to transfer files with the usb cable?08:30
arrrghhhadb08:36
arrrghhhit's not easy08:36
arrrghhhneed to kick off activesync before booting android08:37
arrrghhhand get the SDK08:37
arrrghhhthen it should work.08:37
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DjBatwell how do i reboot to wm?08:40
DjBati have found it :D08:42
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GabrysDjBat: you could also use Wifi I guess08:46
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DjBatokay... but i just reboot it... the use the usb cable09:06
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tigernightHi09:27
tigernightI want to know how to edit the system.ext2 ??09:28
arrrghhhsounds dangerous there partner09:35
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hamagcgood morning guys11:48
hamagccamro: i'll upload the log for you in a minute. my battery finally jsut died right now11:48
hamagci don't think it worked.11:50
hamagcdamnit!11:50
hamagclol you have to be kidding me11:51
hamagcwtf11:51
hamagchttp://pastebin.com/VphB7awQ11:52
hamagcthats just retarded11:52
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Black-SkyThe Camara is not possible with Andriod 2,2---> HTC diamond12:13
Black-Skyhelp12:13
hamagcthe camera is not possible with android 2.212:14
Black-Skyand what do I do that it's going?12:14
camrohi hamagc ..12:14
hamagchi camro12:15
camrocool upload it somewher can then give me the link12:15
hamagcBlack-Sky: camera is not working12:15
hamagccamro: something went wrong, see log:  http://pastebin.com/VphB7awQ12:15
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Black-Skyand what do I do that it goes12:17
hamagcBlack-Sky: nothing at this point. changes need to be made in the android kernal for camera to start working, devs are still working on it. you will know when it is working.12:18
Black-Sky:(12:19
Black-Skyok thx12:20
hamagcnp12:20
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camrohamagc -> please uplaod the file somewhere ..12:28
hamagcthe txt file?12:28
hamagci'm confused. did you see the pastebin? nothing is different from the actual txt file. but i'll upload it to megaupload in just a second12:30
hamagchttp://www.megaupload.com/?d=JXNVAA2112:31
hamagcthere is the actual txt file12:31
arrrghhhdamn, they really shouldn't have said userland camera stuff was ready lol12:40
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hamagclol12:50
hamagci think i scared camro away lol12:51
camrohamagc - i'm testing kernel ..12:51
hamagcoh nice12:51
camroupload your file12:51
arrrghhhhaha12:51
camrothen post the link in my PM boc12:51
camrocu12:51
camrovery busy ... INCALL fixed12:51
camrobattery detection fixed12:52
camropower off is now real power off fixed12:52
hamagcwow busy man today12:52
camrocu12:52
camroworking/testing ..12:52
hamagci think something went very wrong with that log.12:53
hamagclooks like my battery went up in charge so i'm assuming when i pulled power, it stopped working or something12:53
hamagcbrb12:54
hamagck13:06
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stinebdbug flood!13:34
hamagcalot of bugs coming in?13:35
stinebdwe're up to 5 now. one of which is my bluetooth pseudobug13:35
hamagci tried to register but i haven't received an email yet13:36
stinebd613:36
stinebdreally?13:36
hamagcnot bad for only being up a few hours13:36
hamagcya13:36
hamagcmaybe i should try again13:36
stinebdgreylisting?13:36
stinebdhmm gmail13:37
stinebdto the test13:38
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stinebdworked for me13:38
hamagcA confirmation email has been sent containing a link to continue creating an account. The link will expire if an account is not created within 3 days.13:38
hamagci got an email from pizzahut13:39
stinebdmaybe that's it13:39
hamagcno bugtracker13:39
stinebdi have it set to send email from addresses of random food service companies13:39
stinebdwant me to remove you so you can try again?13:40
hamagcya13:40
stinebdok. how do i do that?13:40
hamagcctrl-alt-delete13:41
arrrghhhlol13:41
hamagc:P13:41
arrrghhhah, there's already a bug reported on gtalk lol13:42
stinebddeleted13:42
arrrghhhi love some of the explanations as to why they think it's broken.13:42
hamagcYou have requested an account token too recently to request another. Please wait a while and try again.13:43
hamagclol13:43
arrrghhhoy ve this is going to be fun to manage...13:44
hamagclol13:44
arrrghhhi'm just looking at 6 bugs, and we already have dupes.13:48
arrrghhhsheesh13:48
arrrghhhstinebd, do i not get an account by default from my XDAndroid account...?13:49
stinebdno13:49
arrrghhhaw13:49
stinebdwhen you sign up, let me know and i'll give you bugmaster privileges13:49
arrrghhhjust did13:50
stinebdand do please use your xdandroid email13:50
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arrrghhhi did :D13:50
arrrghhhalrighty13:51
arrrghhhi have been created successfully13:52
arrrghhheat it, hamagc13:52
arrrghhh:P13:52
hamagcnom nom13:52
arrrghhhlol13:52
hamagcit doesn't like me13:52
arrrghhhi've seen SO many reports about the mic not working on incoming calls13:53
arrrghhhbut i haven't been able to confirm if it's user error...13:53
arrrghhhi kinda assume not, but i don't know for sure.13:53
hamagci haven't had any mic issues. i wonder if it's jsut one one device (raph100 or something)13:54
arrrghhhhrm13:54
arrrghhhperhaps13:54
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* hamagc facepalms13:56
arrrghhhButtons cut off in the open call menu13:58
arrrghhhisn't that solved by adjusting the lcd density?13:58
arrrghhhhamagc, can you confirm?13:58
hamagclets see13:58
arrrghhhstinebd, that icon for the bug tracker is way too cute.  we need something hardcore for this bug tracker.13:59
stinebdget cracking then13:59
arrrghhhlol13:59
stinebdfile a bug with the new icon attached13:59
arrrghhhnice13:59
hamagci'm at 210, whats next 240?14:00
arrrghhhi believe so.14:00
arrrghhh@ 210 are the buttons cut off?14:00
hamagcyes14:00
arrrghhhi don't know what the dialer is "supposed" to look like so that may be another issue.14:00
camrohi stinebd: have you found the problem on terminal emulator ? + fixed ?14:00
stinebdcamro: no14:00
camrohmm .. searched for it ?14:01
stinebda little14:01
stinebdkinda low priority14:01
camrohmm .. for me important part ..14:01
camroworking a lot on console14:01
stinebdthat's what adb is for14:02
camrotesting ac / usb /battery ..14:02
stinebdand there's always connectbot14:02
camrohaha . then it is not funny ..14:02
camrohmm :(14:02
camroi nedd a terminal on device ...14:02
stinebdthen install connectbot until i figure it out14:02
camroanyhow ...14:02
camroconnectbot i have14:02
hamagccamro, have you tried any other terminals?14:03
arrrghhhdoes it happen in connectbot too?14:03
camrobut, it's ok .. i must prepare my things via adb, and then call the batch script14:03
arrrghhhi prefer connectbot to the terminal emulator anyways... scrolling seems to work A LOT better.14:03
arrrghhhdamnit i don't know anyone offhand that has an Android phone on this floor...14:04
arrrghhhtrying to find a screenshot of the stock android in-call menu.14:05
stinebdarrrghhh has the bug powar14:05
arrrghhhtryin to squash some haha14:05
hamagcbuttons still cutoff14:05
stinebdfor your first act, i suggest marking 6 as a dupe14:05
arrrghhhyea14:06
arrrghhhit appears to be14:06
arrrghhhjust different devices14:06
stinebdhamagc: yeah, that didn't make it into frx01. sorry14:06
arrrghhhso that's a valid bug?14:06
stinebdgenerally if the same commit causes the same bug (even on different devices), it's a dupe14:06
stinebdchances are it was this: http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/commit/fc5475c06afed4f7079b75a1c1477cc8204cf57714:07
arrrghhhoh14:07
arrrghhhi was referring to the button cutoff bug14:07
arrrghhh;)14:07
stinebdyeah, that's the same bug14:08
arrrghhhas the mic bug?14:08
stinebdno14:08
arrrghhhi'm really confused.14:08
hamagci thoguht the cutoff thing was a resolution issue?14:08
stinebdok. 5 and 6 are the same bug14:08
arrrghhhyes14:09
arrrghhhand i marked it as such14:09
stinebdphone menu is the same bug as it's always been14:09
arrrghhhso 6 is... no more.14:09
arrrghhhok14:09
arrrghhhi guess i didn't realize the buttons were being cut off lol14:09
arrrghhhnever used a 'real' android phone.14:09
hamagclol me either but i soon realized the icons and the txt were 2 different functions14:09
arrrghhhyea... i'm a little slow eh14:10
hamagclol14:10
arrrghhhstinebd, does the NetworkLocation.apk explanation in that location services bug hold any water?14:14
stinebdprobably14:14
arrrghhhk14:14
arrrghhhi'm not sure what that APK does, or even if it was removed...14:14
stinebdit provides the api to look up location name by coordinates14:18
arrrghhhah14:19
arrrghhhyea if that was removed it could cause issues.14:19
stinebdminor details14:19
arrrghhhdetails details14:19
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arrrghhhthey'll kill ya14:19
stinebdwell NetworkLocation is still in my tree14:20
arrrghhhhrm14:20
arrrghhhnot sure what they're talking about that it was removed.14:20
hamagcarrrghhh: if booting nand do you still need activesync for adb?14:20
hamagchmm14:21
arrrghhhi don't think nand adb is working yet14:21
arrrghhhnot sure14:21
hamagcbrain starting to work14:21
hamagcif youi are on nand, you have no activesync14:21
hamagcno winmo\14:21
arrrghhhyes14:21
hamagcyour nand14:21
hamagclol'14:21
arrrghhhthat would be correct14:21
arrrghhhlol14:21
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stinebdheh14:43
stinebd...14:43
stinebdi accidentally dropped someone's bugs account14:43
arrrghhhlol mine?14:44
stinebdno14:44
stinebda poor user14:44
arrrghhhnice14:44
stinebdyeah14:44
arrrghhhhow did you manage that?14:44
stinebdever go into mysql, select all rows in a table, type out a delete command and realize too late that you read on a slant?14:44
arrrghhhlol14:45
arrrghhhcan't say that i have14:45
stinebdnext time i'll use the web interface14:45
arrrghhhbut callmanager drives me nutso because they place check boxes on the far right of the page, put the text on the far left.... and there's NOTHING that lines them up.14:45
arrrghhhi find my self drawing imaginary lines to make sure i tick the right box.14:45
stinebdugh14:46
arrrghhheh, no biggie.14:47
arrrghhhhave a few beers14:47
arrrghhhtake a breather14:47
arrrghhhsober up14:47
arrrghhhthen come back to it :P14:47
stinebdno i mean ugh at the bad UI design14:48
arrrghhhjust be sure to NOT skip the sober up step.  it's crucial.14:48
stinebddeleting accounts makes me happy14:48
arrrghhhoh14:48
arrrghhhLOL14:48
stinebdincidentally it might make sense to start taking hourly database snapshots14:48
arrrghhhhaha, incidentally you may be right.14:53
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loser4evaive got a rhodium (CDMA Verizon) running the latest android...  cannot seem to get out of airplane mode.  anyone know how fix it?15:30
arrrghhhdid you try my suggestion?15:33
hamagcbasically there are 2 ways, both of which i'm sure arrrghhh has mentioned15:42
hamagc3 if you get a widget15:42
hamagcbtw arrrghhh the extended controls widget is nice15:42
hamagci like15:42
hamagcwoot!15:42
arrrghhhfor what?15:42
hamagcwoman got her moment today15:43
arrrghhhturning on & off wifi etc?15:43
hamagcya pretty much everything15:43
arrrghhhboooo moment sucks.15:43
hamagcwhy for?15:43
arrrghhhi was offered that... took the tp2 in a heartbeat.15:43
hamagcreally?15:43
arrrghhheh, processor, screen, accelerometer...15:43
hamagc800mhz  not enough? lol15:43
hamagcscreen?15:43
hamagcamoled?15:43
arrrghhhthe keyboard is also designed retardedly15:43
arrrghhhit's not all about the mhz ;)15:43
hamagcya i haven't seen that but she is coming from a diamond so any hardware kb is better than none15:44
arrrghhhlol i guess that's true.15:44
arrrghhhhopefully she'll like it.15:44
hamagclol true. i kinda liked the 800mhz but no overclocking which i am not a fan of15:44
arrrghhhi didn't want anything to do with it.15:44
hamagcnow i have to figure out how to get sprint to activate it15:44
hamagci'm holding out for the hero myself.15:44
hamagcseems there is more dev for it15:45
arrrghhheh15:46
arrrghhhi can't use a device w/o a real kbd15:46
hamagclol i don't know how i will like that15:46
arrrghhhtalking about that in htc-linux actually lol not much dev talk goin on there.15:46
hamagclol15:46
hamagci see that15:46
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loser4evahey arrrghhh i did not see your suggestions15:55
loser4evawhat ive done so far is to make sure the force_cdma is checked and turn off wifi15:56
arrrghhhloser4eva, it was in the other room... asked if force cdma was set to 115:56
arrrghhhare you using MGJDroidUtil?15:56
arrrghhhif so, i'm going to stab you.15:56
* arrrghhh primes his good stabby stabby...15:58
loser4evahmm lemme look15:58
loser4evathis is what im using15:59
loser4evahttps://sites.google.com/site/androidport/updates/frx01finalbuilds15:59
loser4evai downloaded that cab and luanched it15:59
arrrghhhNO CAB15:59
arrrghhhdamnit15:59
arrrghhhi need to have all the cabs stricken from this world.15:59
arrrghhhwell, in relation to android15:59
arrrghhhnot necessairly all the cabs.15:59
loser4evahrm ok so should i get the RAR from there and just extract to my SD card?16:00
arrrghhhyes please.16:00
loser4evaand, btw, yes it uses mjgdroid util.exe16:01
stinebdcan someone verify bug 7?16:01
xdandroidBug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7 minor, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, unknown_symbol on new modules for tethering16:01
loser4evadling the rar now16:01
arrrghhhstinebd, lol how?16:01
arrrghhhdmesg i guess?16:01
loser4eva?16:02
stinebddmesg would say16:03
loser4evadunno what you are saying16:03
arrrghhhloser4eva, sorry not directed at you.16:03
arrrghhhoh boy i'm getting bug updates to my email... crap.16:05
stinebdyeah add a gmail filter16:08
stinebdsend them to their own label (skipping inbox)16:08
arrrghhhi probably will.16:09
arrrghhhprobably.16:09
loser4evaok - changed the force cdma to "1" and copying the andboot dir to my sd card now16:23
arrrghhhok16:24
loser4evajust launch haret once its copied?16:24
arrrghhhyou changed the startup.txt?16:24
loser4evaonly the force cdma16:25
arrrghhhk16:27
arrrghhhyes, that should be good then.16:27
loser4evahmm seeing an animation of the green bot and a bunch of phones scrolling by16:28
loser4evabeen happening for about a minute now16:28
loser4evajust stopped16:28
arrrghhhpatience16:28
arrrghhhthe first boot can take up to 10 minutes.16:28
loser4evayar its sluggish.  letting it poop before i tell it to move16:29
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arrrghhhlet it poop for a few minutes16:32
loser4evayeah its got the squirts.  not gonna interupt that and get it all over me16:32
arrrghhhmay want to reboot it again as well... first boot is almost never a pleasurable experience unless you let the phone sit for 10 mins or so.16:32
arrrghhhlol16:32
loser4evaBONER16:32
loser4evait dun be werkin!16:32
loser4evaarrrrrghhhh you da bestest16:33
arrrghhhi do what i can.16:33
arrrghhhi really do hate that cab.16:33
loser4evayeah it fuxored me completely16:33
arrrghhhyup16:33
arrrghhhit also fosters ignorance of the underlying system.16:33
arrrghhhhamagc, yes, this rant again.16:33
loser4evai agree 100% actually16:33
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loser4evai pefer to know16:34
loser4evathe downside is just that there is SO much info on this and 90% of it is old16:34
arrrghhhyup16:34
arrrghhhit changes fast16:34
arrrghhhso many places to update16:34
loser4evayeah16:35
loser4evanot a bad price to pay16:35
loser4evahrm looks like i got the wrong keyboard layout16:35
arrrghhhstinebd, i can't confirm that bug.  my dmesg log has no "unknown_symbol" in it whatsoever... i'm not sure what i'm looking for exactly.16:35
arrrghhhloser4eva, lol that's another setting in the startup.txt.  forgot to mention it, there's a physkbd setting16:35
stinebdarrrghhh: that's what i would expect. the modules load with our defconfig. we'll need more info from the user.16:36
mesdo I understand a partitioned sdcard correctly, three parts, one fat32, two and three ext2. haret, startup, modules, rootfs on one, system on two and data on three?16:36
arrrghhhloser4eva, physkeyboard=Rhod40016:36
arrrghhher, RHOD500 in your case.16:36
arrrghhhstinebd, yea, no telling what build they're using.16:36
loser4evadanke16:36
arrrghhhmes, well, only one ext2...16:36
loser4evais it still true that you cannot plug in to charge while running android?16:36
arrrghhhyou always can16:37
arrrghhhit just doesn't show the charging status correctly16:37
arrrghhhit'll say it's fully charged almost immediately, but it still charges.16:37
loser4evaohh but it still charges?  good enough for me.  i almost always charge overnight anyway16:37
arrrghhhditto.16:37
arrrghhhi don't know how much i would trust running Android overnight, but i use my phone as an alarm.16:38
mes mount -t ext2 -o ro,relatime /dev/block/mmcblk0p3 /system and  mount -t ext2 -o relatime /dev/block/mmcblk0p4 /data, is this ignored?16:38
arrrghhhstinebd, let me give it one more shot to be sure.  i was using a NAND build when i dumped that dmesg.16:38
loser4evagood point.  i use mine as an alarm too... will have to go slowly with that i guess16:38
loser4evareally only using it to get me through until wp7 on CDMA anyway16:39
arrrghhhyou're goin with a wp7 phone for sure huh?16:39
arrrghhhwindows phone 7 phone.... how redundant.16:39
mesarrrghhh, how did you make a NAND build?16:39
arrrghhhmes, i take NO credit for it.16:39
mesany instructions?16:39
arrrghhhbut Wozzer is testing it for the RHOD.  it's not a full NAND, it still depends on the SD card... but hey it flashes so no mo winmo16:40
loser4evanot for sure... will have to try it to be sure, but it looks the balls16:40
arrrghhhmes, 1 sec16:40
arrrghhhthe balls huh16:40
arrrghhhthat sounds bad to me16:40
arrrghhhand wp7 looks bad to me16:40
arrrghhhso that sounds consistent with my assessment.16:40
loser4evato each his own16:40
arrrghhhyup16:40
arrrghhhit just seems to me like microsoft is trying to beat the iPhone... 3 years in the past.16:41
loser4evai loathe google and would never use a mac product so its simple for me16:41
arrrghhhyou loathe google?16:41
loser4evai do16:41
arrrghhhreally... can't say i've ever met anyone who loathes google.16:41
loser4evathey will destroy the world16:41
arrrghhhi mean there's some privacy advocates that aren't big fans...16:41
mesarrrghhh, no mo wimo sounds good to me, but I go one step at a time, with a partitioned sdcard and no more loopbacks16:41
arrrghhhlol hopefully.16:41
loser4evawell that is my concern really16:42
arrrghhhmes, http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/tp2-android-development/131590-nand-boot-testing-test-5-sound-test-7-single-nbh-serialno-tilt2-fix.html16:42
loser4evathey want to make me public and i am incredibly private16:42
arrrghhhloser4eva, and you're not concerned about microsoft's ambition to take over the world?16:42
loser4evathey are too lazy to take over the world16:42
arrrghhhlol then don't use any microsoft product or google product or the internet at all then dude...16:42
loser4evafew MS products require you to sign over your privacy16:43
loser4evaall google products do16:43
arrrghhhyou're going to be very disappointed with wp716:43
arrrghhhthey're trying to make it a 'social' platform.16:43
arrrghhhlike i said, they're trying to beat the iPhone 3 years ago.16:43
arrrghhhand i wouldn't run Android if i was you then either :P16:44
loser4evai dont user twitter facebook or any of that shit16:44
meswell I do notice the google-ectomied version I made has better battery life, about 18 hours in really low signal strength areas16:44
arrrghhhnot bad16:44
loser4evayeah its curiousity that is driving me to use it really.  my win mo 6.5 does just about everything i need16:45
loser4evajust sluggish16:45
loser4evahoping i'll be able to use wp7 without creating a web persona16:46
arrrghhhyea, i'm tired of WinMo.16:46
arrrghhhsuch a crappy UI16:46
loser4evayeth16:46
arrrghhhlol hopefully you don't use cutnpaste either16:46
loser4evanot on a phone16:46
arrrghhhha, ok.16:46
loser4evaexchange, maps, web, txt16:46
loser4evaohh and solitaire16:47
arrrghhhlol16:47
loser4evaxbox live could be cool, but my expectations are low16:47
arrrghhhget this man a razr16:47
loser4evalol16:47
loser4evagot to run.  thanks again for your time and help arrrg16:49
loser4evasee ya16:50
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hamagcok i'm back17:16
arrrghhheh you didn't miss much.  just me bitching about the cab installer again.17:17
hamagclol damned cab installers17:17
arrrghhhand some tool who hates google, yet is trying ever so hard to run Android on his phone...17:18
hamagcok so sprint let me put the moment on her plan for no additional fees17:18
arrrghhhder.17:18
hamagcnice17:18
arrrghhhnice indeed!17:18
hamagclol thats just a contradiction in itself17:18
hamagcya i'm kinda suprised17:18
hamagceverywhere i read i was told a $10 fee for android phones17:18
hamagcshe is on an indirect plan17:18
arrrghhhhuh, that may be a monthly upcharge fee17:18
arrrghhhbut i have no clue, i'm on the total advantage plan :P17:19
hamagci was told she has to get rid of the sprint retail emp pv ult pack and pay $10 for the premium data17:19
hamagcbut looking at her acct it's still there and everything works17:19
arrrghhhnice17:20
arrrghhhjust don't call back to customer service lol17:20
hamagcnow i'm really jealous. $20 for 3000 minutes, unlimited everything and an android phone17:20
hamagcwtf?17:20
hamagclol right!17:20
arrrghhhdayum17:21
arrrghhhunlimited nights/weekends too?17:21
arrrghhhi don't see how...17:21
hamagcyep17:21
hamagcthe joys of the free and clear indirect plans17:22
arrrghhhah17:22
arrrghhhold in other words17:22
hamagcno sorry, 1000 night and weekend17:22
hamagcwith 3000 anytime lol17:22
hamagcno unlimited17:22
arrrghhhi'm actually really surprised that the rep pushed that thru17:22
hamagcstarting at 717:22
hamagcdamn17:22
hamagcme too17:22
arrrghhhi thought any android device they would make you change your plan & you'd lose your grandfather...17:22
hamagcdidn't give any hassel  at all17:22
arrrghhhperhaps since it's off-contract they don't care.17:22
arrrghhhthat's awesome.17:22
hamagcmaybe, it's liek 5 years past contact end date lol17:23
arrrghhhi'm not going to tell you what my plan is lol17:23
hamagclol17:23
hamagci have sero17:23
arrrghhhyea17:23
hamagcso nothing really special here17:23
arrrghhhtotal advantage = sero on crack17:23
hamagci want her plan though17:23
hamagci've been debating getting a job at radio shack jsut for that lol17:23
arrrghhhhaha17:23
hamagcya i hear the total advantage plans are nice too17:23
arrrghhhyou don't get any benes with cell phone plans17:23
hamagcHighlights17:23
hamagcFree & Clear 300017:23
hamagcLong Distance Included17:23
hamagcCall Waiting, 3-Way Calling17:23
hamagcEnhanced Sprint Voicemail17:23
hamagcIncludes Unlimited Text Msgs17:23
hamagcIncludes 3000 Minutes To Use Anytime17:23
hamagcServices for LIZZY:17:23
arrrghhhi think you get like a 15% discount on most17:23
hamagcTotal Equipment Protection  $7.0017:23
hamagcTotal Equipment Protection17:23
hamagcWhere would you be without your phone? Out of touch, disconnected and frustrated. You can avoid the inconvenience and aggravation with Total Equipment Protection.17:23
hamagc Sprint Retail EMP PV Ult Pack  $0.0017:23
hamagcSprint Retail EMP PV Ult Pack17:23
hamagcSprint Retail EMP PV Ult Pack17:23
hamagc Picture Mail  $0.0017:23
hamagcPicture Mail17:23
arrrghhhjessus dude17:24
arrrghhhsettle down there17:24
hamagcdidn't know it was going to do all that lol17:24
arrrghhhbut anyhoo, i don't think the shack gets you great deals with providers17:24
arrrghhhif you work for the provider, that's a different story.17:24
hamagcya i heard they changed those17:24
arrrghhhi used to work at the shack17:24
arrrghhhwhat was that... 4 years ago now.17:24
arrrghhhso i guess things could've changed17:24
hamagci hear they are not anywhere near as good as they used to be17:25
arrrghhhbut when i worked there i could only get discounts on plans... and since i already had a great plan i wasn't about to change.17:25
hamagclol17:25
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arrrghhhyea... that and the clientele are either geniuses who can't be bothered, or complete morons who can't hook up a cable to save their life.17:25
hamagcya i am supposed to get a 25% discount for my work but not on my plan17:25
arrrghhhlol i wonder how many people pay full price for their plan17:26
hamagclol alot17:26
arrrghhhSO many people i talk to get discounts for this that or the other thing.17:26
arrrghhhyea, i guess i am usually talking to pretty savvy people...17:26
hamagcya but alot of people jsut take it for face value and don't know better17:26
arrrghhhyup17:26
hamagci have a few friends that are on regular plans17:26
hamagcjust didn't know better17:26
hamagceven though i'm the local phone guru17:27
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hamagcwoot! verizon nfl works on xdandroid :)17:28
hamagcthat makes me very happy17:28
hamagchaha17:29
hamagclove the bluetooth comments on the bug tracker17:30
arrrghhhhehe17:30
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hamagcyes i have an extra imagio which i would gladly send to the dev. so dont doubt it friend.17:31
hamagcheh17:31
stinebdthe hell postfix17:31
stinebdi hate mail servers17:31
hamagcvia davidstre @ xda17:31
stinebddrwxrwsr-x. 2 root mail 4096 Sep 24 17:19 /var/mail << why can't it create a lock file there?17:31
stinebdoh look new kernels17:32
hamagcfix shutdown17:32
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hamagchmm shutdown still hangs for me17:33
arrrghhhah crap17:35
* arrrghhh hides17:35
TheDeadCPUMeow :317:35
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arrrghhhdamnit!17:35
TheDeadCPU:D17:35
hamagcmeow?17:35
arrrghhhhamagc, DON'T ASK HIM!17:35
TheDeadCPUMeow :I17:35
hamagclol17:35
hamagcoookkkk17:35
hamagcwoof?>17:36
arrrghhhyou won't like the answer17:36
arrrghhhtrust me.17:36
hamagcwait i just might17:36
TheDeadCPUPrrrrrrrrr17:36
hamagconly 2 things make a meow17:36
hamagccats and...17:36
TheDeadCPUWEEABOOS :D17:36
hamagcwell i was thinking kangaroos but weeaboos too i guess :/17:37
arrrghhhTheDeadCPU, you're turning this room into a furry haven.17:37
TheDeadCPUarrrghhh, I know you like furreh. You just wont addmit it.17:37
arrrghhhshhhhhh17:37
arrrghhhshush kitty.17:38
TheDeadCPUMeow 3:17:38
hamagclol we have kitties here at work17:38
arrrghhh?17:38
arrrghhhyou obviously don't work at the same place i do.  oh right, you do insurance lol17:38
hamagclol yep17:39
hamagcand we have 3 kittys that hang out outside.17:39
hamagcwe feed them, they eat mice and other critters we don't want in or around the office17:39
arrrghhhnice17:39
TheDeadCPUI know you cuddle them hamagc.17:40
hamagconly 1 the other 2 don't let anyone pet them17:40
arrrghhhthat's cats for you17:40
hamagcthey are all farel lol17:41
hamagcbut they do their job17:41
hamagcand they are cute :D17:41
hamagcwell i see one report that new kernal fixed mic issues17:41
arrrghhhand delicious!17:41
hamagcbonsi kitten?17:42
arrrghhhyea, one of the commits looks like it should/will.17:42
arrrghhhseems like that issue was GSM only, hopefully it won't break us lol17:42
hamagcno issues so far on new kernal17:42
hamagccare to update bug tracker?17:42
arrrghhhcan you try a call?17:42
hamagctesting17:43
arrrghhhcool, i just saw a post that says its fixed for them.17:43
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hamagchmm17:43
hamagcthats not good17:43
hamagci got nothing, no sound no mix17:43
hamagcmic*17:44
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hamagchmm test 2 i have mic but no speaker17:44
arrrghhhhrm17:45
hamagchold on17:45
hamagcinteresting17:45
hamagc3 calls, first no sound in or out17:46
hamagc2nd sound out no sound via speaker but if i put it on speakerphone i get sound then turn speaker phone off and regular speaker works17:46
hamagctest 3 same as 217:46
arrrghhhhuh17:47
arrrghhhyour words confuse and befuttle me.17:47
hamagctest 4 didn't come in at all17:47
hamagcwtf?17:47
stinebdyeah i was worried about that17:50
stinebdthe commit mentions boot only17:51
stinebdbut calls change sound parameters so you'd have to do it then too17:51
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hamagcbug tracker is going to blow up now, have that feeling lol18:00
stinebduh oh18:01
stinebdi better get a bigger server18:01
hamagclol18:01
stinebdugh chromium18:02
stinebdi keep typing bugs and hitting enter thinking i'll go to xdandroid and i end up at gentoo bugzilla instead18:02
stinebdi can't wait to see the huge spike in postfix throughput on the graphs. before now it's only been serving as a backup mx on one domain18:04
hamagclol good yes?18:05
arrrghhhalrighty off work.  cya later.18:06
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stinebdgood? not sure18:07
stinebdi don't know how much more the server can handle18:07
stinebdthat gauner guy gave me a good idea earlier18:08
stinebdrework liblights for our devices18:08
hamagclater arrrghhh18:09
hamagcwell a late later18:09
stinebdoh look, i can masquerade as other users on bugzilla18:11
stinebdthat simplifies the bugbot setup18:11
hamagclol18:12
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stinebdpoweroff still works for me18:16
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hamagcworks for me on a fresh data.img18:18
hamagchang on the old one.18:18
hamagcbut from what i remember it always worked on a new data.img, it was after adding my widgets and emails accts and crap that it would stop working and hang18:18
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xdandroidNew kernel available (20100925_005545) at http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20100925_005545-package.tar.bz219:07
stinebdhuzzah!19:07
mesis mmcblk0p1 the first partition on the sdcard?19:09
stinebdyes19:09
stinebdseems kinda silly to me though19:09
stinebdyou start counting the mmcblk devices at 0 but start counting the partitions at 119:10
mesinit expects it to be fat32, and large, ie all the sdcard stuff?19:10
stinebdlarge?19:10
mesmount -t vfat -o fmask=0000,dmask=0000,rw,flush,relatime,utf8 /dev/block/$partit19:10
mesion /sdcard19:10
mesall the other stuff not in system or data?19:11
stinebdsdcard holds everything19:11
stinebdsystem and data are mounting loopback from images stored on sdcard19:11
stinebdand rootfs too19:11
mesI am trying to get rid of the loopbacks, mount strait on an ext2 partition19:12
stinebdok19:12
stinebdthe init scripts in initramfs and rootfs support that19:12
mesdata.img get hosed regularly19:12
stinebdiirc, partition1 = sdcard (vfat), partition2 = rootfs (ext2), partition3 = system (ext2), partition4 = data (ext2)19:13
stinebdif you have the 4 partitions, it should just work19:13
mesyes, I see that, but I don't see a p2, and the less vfat the less can be messed with by winmo19:13
messome apps put their data in /sdcard19:14
stinebdp1 can be whatever size you want (that fits), p2 should be roughly 15-20MB, p3 should be 128MB+, p4 should be 256MB+19:14
stinebdyou're on your own for making the partitions, though, which is a big part of why we decided not to go on with that setup.19:15
mesI have offline tiles for osmand or osmdroid, it would be much better if they weren't on a vfat19:16
mesis there a way to boot right to the rootfs, no initrd?19:16
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stinebdmaybe19:16
stinebdsomething like root=/dev/block/mmcblkXpY19:17
mesI'm trying to modify things as little as possible, so ...19:17
mesI was wondering about that19:17
mesand no initrd19:17
stinebdchange which things as little as possible?19:18
ke-Ok man... First step in really hax0ring my Wildfire is over19:18
ke-Finally got it rooted with the unrevoked3 :)19:18
mesjust modify init to fsck the root partition and MAKEDEVS19:18
mesthe init scripts19:18
ke-So which root apps are good to get?19:18
stinebdwell all our stuff was already set up for the partitions19:19
stinebdso you don't really have to change anything19:19
hamagcke-: are you referring to a native android device?19:19
ke-Huh?19:20
ke-HTC Wildfire19:20
hamagcnative andoird, this channel is for winmo phones running android19:20
ke-Errr, what?19:20
stinebdour project only supports the series of msm7k based winmo phones htc produced19:21
ke-Oh19:21
stinebdwe don't do anything with phones that come from the store with android on them19:21
hamagcso if you looking for help of suggestions this isn't the channel for you19:21
ke-Alright... Just thought it was pretty generally related to everything on the XDA forums... :)19:22
hamagclol nope not this channel.19:22
ke-Haha19:22
ke-Alright, take care guys!19:23
hamagcyou too!19:23
ke-l8r19:23
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stinebdgreat, now we lost a user. thanks a lot hamagc19:23
hamagclol doh!19:23
hamagcare we keeping track?19:23
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x40sw0nhow goes the pain arrrghh?19:35
arrrghhhmeh19:36
arrrghhhconstant19:36
x40sw0nthe pain of bug stomping that is19:36
arrrghhhhaha i'm diving into it as best i can19:36
x40sw0nsounds like it. caught the recent updates on fb/xda19:36
arrrghhhbasically what i do at work, without any of the money or bosses.19:36
arrrghhhor dress code.19:36
arrrghhhor office...19:36
x40sw0nlocation awareness took a dump eh?19:36
x40sw0nno doubt19:36
arrrghhhi guess.19:36
arrrghhhi don't really have a problem with it19:37
stinebdyay19:38
x40sw0nI can relate; a  very love/hate relationship with computers and all that19:38
stinebdhttp://bugs.xdandroid.com/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=cf_targetbuild&query_format=advanced&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=FRX0219:38
stinebdbugs targeted for FRX0219:38
arrrghhhsweet!19:38
arrrghhhstinebd, you da man.19:38
stinebdnow all we need is a date to put pressure on me and get me off my lazy ass19:39
x40sw0nshit I must be like 4 versions back now19:39
stinebdwhat day was frx01?19:39
arrrghhhi dunno19:40
arrrghhhwasn't that long ago19:40
stinebdhad to be july some time19:40
arrrghhh9/1719:40
arrrghhhwhat?19:40
stinebdoh god, really?19:40
arrrghhhwhen frx01 was released?19:40
stinebdyeah19:41
arrrghhh9/17...19:41
stinebdcrazy19:41
arrrghhhlol19:41
stinebdwhat took so long?19:41
arrrghhhdid you fall into some hole?19:41
arrrghhhi dunno19:41
stinebdi fell out of one when i was born19:41
arrrghhhtmi dude tmi19:41
arrrghhhi was hatched19:41
x40sw0nreally? thought you were cloned...19:42
x40sw0n:D19:42
x40sw0nthus the extra vowels19:42
arrrghhhvowels?19:42
x40sw0nshit consonants19:42
arrrghhhLOL19:42
arrrghhhi was like wait a second...19:42
x40sw0ndamn... working on my 13th hour today19:42
x40sw0nof work19:42
x40sw0na touch punchy as it were19:44
x40sw0ngoing to go grab a cable and test out current version19:44
hamagcok goodnight guys19:44
hamagchave a great weekend!19:44
stinebdbye19:45
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arrrghhhdamnit.  stinebd, i think that my location bug is valid.19:52
arrrghhhi was thinking the my location stuff like in google maps.  that works great, but it seems anything else that uses 'my location' - weather, google home page, etc... fails.19:53
arrrghhhok19:54
arrrghhhnow i'm just a liar19:54
arrrghhhmy location does work in the browser19:54
arrrghhhon the google homepage19:54
arrrghhhwtf19:54
arrrghhhok, just the "News & Weather" app I guess fails.  I'm not sure what else uses my location...19:54
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x40sw0nalright all, have a good night. Got the latest release running right now, and will update if I see anything freaky from it.20:18
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