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stinebd | cooool | 00:10 |
stinebd | http://bugs.xdandroid.com | 00:10 |
stinebd | bugmonkeys get full access | 00:11 |
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stinebd | xdandroid: seen babijoee | 00:22 |
xdandroid | stinebd: babijoee was last seen in #xdandroid 5 days, 23 hours, 17 minutes, and 22 seconds ago: <babijoee> xdandroid: later tell phh hey how do you disable LED flash after you enable it? | 00:22 |
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arrrghhh | stinebd, where'd that come from? lol | 00:43 |
arrrghhh | did you seriously just whip that up? | 00:44 |
stinebd | pretty standard bugzilla installation | 00:44 |
arrrghhh | nice | 00:44 |
stinebd | probably lots of customization left | 00:44 |
arrrghhh | yea, it looks basic | 00:44 |
arrrghhh | but hey | 00:44 |
arrrghhh | it'll hopefully provide what we need | 00:44 |
arrrghhh | a way to get kernels out there for testing | 00:44 |
arrrghhh | the only problem i see is a good method of letting people know that there is new stuff to download... | 00:45 |
stinebd | well it's more of a way for centralized feedback | 00:46 |
stinebd | as opposed to 17 different forum threads | 00:46 |
arrrghhh | yea | 00:47 |
stinebd | also serves as patch collection, so now people have somewhere to go when i say "patches welcome" | 00:47 |
arrrghhh | indeed, getting stuff upstream seems difficult | 00:47 |
arrrghhh | not that i would know, whatsoever lol | 00:48 |
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arrrghhh | ah well gf is layin the hammer down | 00:55 |
arrrghhh | cya later stinebd, have a good one. | 00:56 |
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stinebd | bye | 00:59 |
stinebd | just missed him | 00:59 |
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hceuterpe | is ACL the main person working on 3D for Rhodium? | 02:18 |
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DjBat | hi there... any one that can help me with an htc touch diamond? | 07:08 |
kalemas | DjBat: what's wrong with it? | 07:15 |
DjBat | need a guide on how til install xdandroid... | 07:19 |
kalemas | look here http://xdandroid.com | 07:20 |
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DjBat | noob here... need help, i have installed xdandroid and now i need help on how to transfer files with the usb cable? | 08:30 |
arrrghhh | adb | 08:36 |
arrrghhh | it's not easy | 08:36 |
arrrghhh | need to kick off activesync before booting android | 08:37 |
arrrghhh | and get the SDK | 08:37 |
arrrghhh | then it should work. | 08:37 |
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DjBat | well how do i reboot to wm? | 08:40 |
DjBat | i have found it :D | 08:42 |
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Gabrys | DjBat: you could also use Wifi I guess | 08:46 |
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DjBat | okay... but i just reboot it... the use the usb cable | 09:06 |
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tigernight | Hi | 09:27 |
tigernight | I want to know how to edit the system.ext2 ?? | 09:28 |
arrrghhh | sounds dangerous there partner | 09:35 |
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hamagc | good morning guys | 11:48 |
hamagc | camro: i'll upload the log for you in a minute. my battery finally jsut died right now | 11:48 |
hamagc | i don't think it worked. | 11:50 |
hamagc | damnit! | 11:50 |
hamagc | lol you have to be kidding me | 11:51 |
hamagc | wtf | 11:51 |
hamagc | http://pastebin.com/VphB7awQ | 11:52 |
hamagc | thats just retarded | 11:52 |
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Black-Sky | The Camara is not possible with Andriod 2,2---> HTC diamond | 12:13 |
Black-Sky | help | 12:13 |
hamagc | the camera is not possible with android 2.2 | 12:14 |
Black-Sky | and what do I do that it's going? | 12:14 |
camro | hi hamagc .. | 12:14 |
hamagc | hi camro | 12:15 |
camro | cool upload it somewher can then give me the link | 12:15 |
hamagc | Black-Sky: camera is not working | 12:15 |
hamagc | camro: something went wrong, see log: http://pastebin.com/VphB7awQ | 12:15 |
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Black-Sky | and what do I do that it goes | 12:17 |
hamagc | Black-Sky: nothing at this point. changes need to be made in the android kernal for camera to start working, devs are still working on it. you will know when it is working. | 12:18 |
Black-Sky | :( | 12:19 |
Black-Sky | ok thx | 12:20 |
hamagc | np | 12:20 |
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camro | hamagc -> please uplaod the file somewhere .. | 12:28 |
hamagc | the txt file? | 12:28 |
hamagc | i'm confused. did you see the pastebin? nothing is different from the actual txt file. but i'll upload it to megaupload in just a second | 12:30 |
hamagc | http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JXNVAA21 | 12:31 |
hamagc | there is the actual txt file | 12:31 |
arrrghhh | damn, they really shouldn't have said userland camera stuff was ready lol | 12:40 |
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hamagc | lol | 12:50 |
hamagc | i think i scared camro away lol | 12:51 |
camro | hamagc - i'm testing kernel .. | 12:51 |
hamagc | oh nice | 12:51 |
camro | upload your file | 12:51 |
arrrghhh | haha | 12:51 |
camro | then post the link in my PM boc | 12:51 |
camro | cu | 12:51 |
camro | very busy ... INCALL fixed | 12:51 |
camro | battery detection fixed | 12:52 |
camro | power off is now real power off fixed | 12:52 |
hamagc | wow busy man today | 12:52 |
camro | cu | 12:52 |
camro | working/testing .. | 12:52 |
hamagc | i think something went very wrong with that log. | 12:53 |
hamagc | looks like my battery went up in charge so i'm assuming when i pulled power, it stopped working or something | 12:53 |
hamagc | brb | 12:54 |
hamagc | k | 13:06 |
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stinebd | bug flood! | 13:34 |
hamagc | alot of bugs coming in? | 13:35 |
stinebd | we're up to 5 now. one of which is my bluetooth pseudobug | 13:35 |
hamagc | i tried to register but i haven't received an email yet | 13:36 |
stinebd | 6 | 13:36 |
stinebd | really? | 13:36 |
hamagc | not bad for only being up a few hours | 13:36 |
hamagc | ya | 13:36 |
hamagc | maybe i should try again | 13:36 |
stinebd | greylisting? | 13:36 |
stinebd | hmm gmail | 13:37 |
stinebd | to the test | 13:38 |
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stinebd | worked for me | 13:38 |
hamagc | A confirmation email has been sent containing a link to continue creating an account. The link will expire if an account is not created within 3 days. | 13:38 |
hamagc | i got an email from pizzahut | 13:39 |
stinebd | maybe that's it | 13:39 |
hamagc | no bugtracker | 13:39 |
stinebd | i have it set to send email from addresses of random food service companies | 13:39 |
stinebd | want me to remove you so you can try again? | 13:40 |
hamagc | ya | 13:40 |
stinebd | ok. how do i do that? | 13:40 |
hamagc | ctrl-alt-delete | 13:41 |
arrrghhh | lol | 13:41 |
hamagc | :P | 13:41 |
arrrghhh | ah, there's already a bug reported on gtalk lol | 13:42 |
stinebd | deleted | 13:42 |
arrrghhh | i love some of the explanations as to why they think it's broken. | 13:42 |
hamagc | You have requested an account token too recently to request another. Please wait a while and try again. | 13:43 |
hamagc | lol | 13:43 |
arrrghhh | oy ve this is going to be fun to manage... | 13:44 |
hamagc | lol | 13:44 |
arrrghhh | i'm just looking at 6 bugs, and we already have dupes. | 13:48 |
arrrghhh | sheesh | 13:48 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, do i not get an account by default from my XDAndroid account...? | 13:49 |
stinebd | no | 13:49 |
arrrghhh | aw | 13:49 |
stinebd | when you sign up, let me know and i'll give you bugmaster privileges | 13:49 |
arrrghhh | just did | 13:50 |
stinebd | and do please use your xdandroid email | 13:50 |
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arrrghhh | i did :D | 13:50 |
arrrghhh | alrighty | 13:51 |
arrrghhh | i have been created successfully | 13:52 |
arrrghhh | eat it, hamagc | 13:52 |
arrrghhh | :P | 13:52 |
hamagc | nom nom | 13:52 |
arrrghhh | lol | 13:52 |
hamagc | it doesn't like me | 13:52 |
arrrghhh | i've seen SO many reports about the mic not working on incoming calls | 13:53 |
arrrghhh | but i haven't been able to confirm if it's user error... | 13:53 |
arrrghhh | i kinda assume not, but i don't know for sure. | 13:53 |
hamagc | i haven't had any mic issues. i wonder if it's jsut one one device (raph100 or something) | 13:54 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 13:54 |
arrrghhh | perhaps | 13:54 |
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arrrghhh | Buttons cut off in the open call menu | 13:58 |
arrrghhh | isn't that solved by adjusting the lcd density? | 13:58 |
arrrghhh | hamagc, can you confirm? | 13:58 |
hamagc | lets see | 13:58 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, that icon for the bug tracker is way too cute. we need something hardcore for this bug tracker. | 13:59 |
stinebd | get cracking then | 13:59 |
arrrghhh | lol | 13:59 |
stinebd | file a bug with the new icon attached | 13:59 |
arrrghhh | nice | 13:59 |
hamagc | i'm at 210, whats next 240? | 14:00 |
arrrghhh | i believe so. | 14:00 |
arrrghhh | @ 210 are the buttons cut off? | 14:00 |
hamagc | yes | 14:00 |
arrrghhh | i don't know what the dialer is "supposed" to look like so that may be another issue. | 14:00 |
camro | hi stinebd: have you found the problem on terminal emulator ? + fixed ? | 14:00 |
stinebd | camro: no | 14:00 |
camro | hmm .. searched for it ? | 14:01 |
stinebd | a little | 14:01 |
stinebd | kinda low priority | 14:01 |
camro | hmm .. for me important part .. | 14:01 |
camro | working a lot on console | 14:01 |
stinebd | that's what adb is for | 14:02 |
camro | testing ac / usb /battery .. | 14:02 |
stinebd | and there's always connectbot | 14:02 |
camro | haha . then it is not funny .. | 14:02 |
camro | hmm :( | 14:02 |
camro | i nedd a terminal on device ... | 14:02 |
stinebd | then install connectbot until i figure it out | 14:02 |
camro | anyhow ... | 14:02 |
camro | connectbot i have | 14:02 |
hamagc | camro, have you tried any other terminals? | 14:03 |
arrrghhh | does it happen in connectbot too? | 14:03 |
camro | but, it's ok .. i must prepare my things via adb, and then call the batch script | 14:03 |
arrrghhh | i prefer connectbot to the terminal emulator anyways... scrolling seems to work A LOT better. | 14:03 |
arrrghhh | damnit i don't know anyone offhand that has an Android phone on this floor... | 14:04 |
arrrghhh | trying to find a screenshot of the stock android in-call menu. | 14:05 |
stinebd | arrrghhh has the bug powar | 14:05 |
arrrghhh | tryin to squash some haha | 14:05 |
hamagc | buttons still cutoff | 14:05 |
stinebd | for your first act, i suggest marking 6 as a dupe | 14:05 |
arrrghhh | yea | 14:06 |
arrrghhh | it appears to be | 14:06 |
arrrghhh | just different devices | 14:06 |
stinebd | hamagc: yeah, that didn't make it into frx01. sorry | 14:06 |
arrrghhh | so that's a valid bug? | 14:06 |
stinebd | generally if the same commit causes the same bug (even on different devices), it's a dupe | 14:06 |
stinebd | chances are it was this: http://gitorious.org/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm/commit/fc5475c06afed4f7079b75a1c1477cc8204cf577 | 14:07 |
arrrghhh | oh | 14:07 |
arrrghhh | i was referring to the button cutoff bug | 14:07 |
arrrghhh | ;) | 14:07 |
stinebd | yeah, that's the same bug | 14:08 |
arrrghhh | as the mic bug? | 14:08 |
stinebd | no | 14:08 |
arrrghhh | i'm really confused. | 14:08 |
hamagc | i thoguht the cutoff thing was a resolution issue? | 14:08 |
stinebd | ok. 5 and 6 are the same bug | 14:08 |
arrrghhh | yes | 14:09 |
arrrghhh | and i marked it as such | 14:09 |
stinebd | phone menu is the same bug as it's always been | 14:09 |
arrrghhh | so 6 is... no more. | 14:09 |
arrrghhh | ok | 14:09 |
arrrghhh | i guess i didn't realize the buttons were being cut off lol | 14:09 |
arrrghhh | never used a 'real' android phone. | 14:09 |
hamagc | lol me either but i soon realized the icons and the txt were 2 different functions | 14:09 |
arrrghhh | yea... i'm a little slow eh | 14:10 |
hamagc | lol | 14:10 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, does the NetworkLocation.apk explanation in that location services bug hold any water? | 14:14 |
stinebd | probably | 14:14 |
arrrghhh | k | 14:14 |
arrrghhh | i'm not sure what that APK does, or even if it was removed... | 14:14 |
stinebd | it provides the api to look up location name by coordinates | 14:18 |
arrrghhh | ah | 14:19 |
arrrghhh | yea if that was removed it could cause issues. | 14:19 |
stinebd | minor details | 14:19 |
arrrghhh | details details | 14:19 |
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arrrghhh | they'll kill ya | 14:19 |
stinebd | well NetworkLocation is still in my tree | 14:20 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 14:20 |
arrrghhh | not sure what they're talking about that it was removed. | 14:20 |
hamagc | arrrghhh: if booting nand do you still need activesync for adb? | 14:20 |
hamagc | hmm | 14:21 |
arrrghhh | i don't think nand adb is working yet | 14:21 |
arrrghhh | not sure | 14:21 |
hamagc | brain starting to work | 14:21 |
hamagc | if youi are on nand, you have no activesync | 14:21 |
hamagc | no winmo\ | 14:21 |
arrrghhh | yes | 14:21 |
hamagc | your nand | 14:21 |
hamagc | lol' | 14:21 |
arrrghhh | that would be correct | 14:21 |
arrrghhh | lol | 14:21 |
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stinebd | heh | 14:43 |
stinebd | ... | 14:43 |
stinebd | i accidentally dropped someone's bugs account | 14:43 |
arrrghhh | lol mine? | 14:44 |
stinebd | no | 14:44 |
stinebd | a poor user | 14:44 |
arrrghhh | nice | 14:44 |
stinebd | yeah | 14:44 |
arrrghhh | how did you manage that? | 14:44 |
stinebd | ever go into mysql, select all rows in a table, type out a delete command and realize too late that you read on a slant? | 14:44 |
arrrghhh | lol | 14:45 |
arrrghhh | can't say that i have | 14:45 |
stinebd | next time i'll use the web interface | 14:45 |
arrrghhh | but callmanager drives me nutso because they place check boxes on the far right of the page, put the text on the far left.... and there's NOTHING that lines them up. | 14:45 |
arrrghhh | i find my self drawing imaginary lines to make sure i tick the right box. | 14:45 |
stinebd | ugh | 14:46 |
arrrghhh | eh, no biggie. | 14:47 |
arrrghhh | have a few beers | 14:47 |
arrrghhh | take a breather | 14:47 |
arrrghhh | sober up | 14:47 |
arrrghhh | then come back to it :P | 14:47 |
stinebd | no i mean ugh at the bad UI design | 14:48 |
arrrghhh | just be sure to NOT skip the sober up step. it's crucial. | 14:48 |
stinebd | deleting accounts makes me happy | 14:48 |
arrrghhh | oh | 14:48 |
arrrghhh | LOL | 14:48 |
stinebd | incidentally it might make sense to start taking hourly database snapshots | 14:48 |
arrrghhh | haha, incidentally you may be right. | 14:53 |
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loser4eva | ive got a rhodium (CDMA Verizon) running the latest android... cannot seem to get out of airplane mode. anyone know how fix it? | 15:30 |
arrrghhh | did you try my suggestion? | 15:33 |
hamagc | basically there are 2 ways, both of which i'm sure arrrghhh has mentioned | 15:42 |
hamagc | 3 if you get a widget | 15:42 |
hamagc | btw arrrghhh the extended controls widget is nice | 15:42 |
hamagc | i like | 15:42 |
hamagc | woot! | 15:42 |
arrrghhh | for what? | 15:42 |
hamagc | woman got her moment today | 15:43 |
arrrghhh | turning on & off wifi etc? | 15:43 |
hamagc | ya pretty much everything | 15:43 |
arrrghhh | boooo moment sucks. | 15:43 |
hamagc | why for? | 15:43 |
arrrghhh | i was offered that... took the tp2 in a heartbeat. | 15:43 |
hamagc | really? | 15:43 |
arrrghhh | eh, processor, screen, accelerometer... | 15:43 |
hamagc | 800mhz not enough? lol | 15:43 |
hamagc | screen? | 15:43 |
hamagc | amoled? | 15:43 |
arrrghhh | the keyboard is also designed retardedly | 15:43 |
arrrghhh | it's not all about the mhz ;) | 15:43 |
hamagc | ya i haven't seen that but she is coming from a diamond so any hardware kb is better than none | 15:44 |
arrrghhh | lol i guess that's true. | 15:44 |
arrrghhh | hopefully she'll like it. | 15:44 |
hamagc | lol true. i kinda liked the 800mhz but no overclocking which i am not a fan of | 15:44 |
arrrghhh | i didn't want anything to do with it. | 15:44 |
hamagc | now i have to figure out how to get sprint to activate it | 15:44 |
hamagc | i'm holding out for the hero myself. | 15:44 |
hamagc | seems there is more dev for it | 15:45 |
arrrghhh | eh | 15:46 |
arrrghhh | i can't use a device w/o a real kbd | 15:46 |
hamagc | lol i don't know how i will like that | 15:46 |
arrrghhh | talking about that in htc-linux actually lol not much dev talk goin on there. | 15:46 |
hamagc | lol | 15:46 |
hamagc | i see that | 15:46 |
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loser4eva | hey arrrghhh i did not see your suggestions | 15:55 |
loser4eva | what ive done so far is to make sure the force_cdma is checked and turn off wifi | 15:56 |
arrrghhh | loser4eva, it was in the other room... asked if force cdma was set to 1 | 15:56 |
arrrghhh | are you using MGJDroidUtil? | 15:56 |
arrrghhh | if so, i'm going to stab you. | 15:56 |
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loser4eva | hmm lemme look | 15:58 |
loser4eva | this is what im using | 15:59 |
loser4eva | https://sites.google.com/site/androidport/updates/frx01finalbuilds | 15:59 |
loser4eva | i downloaded that cab and luanched it | 15:59 |
arrrghhh | NO CAB | 15:59 |
arrrghhh | damnit | 15:59 |
arrrghhh | i need to have all the cabs stricken from this world. | 15:59 |
arrrghhh | well, in relation to android | 15:59 |
arrrghhh | not necessairly all the cabs. | 15:59 |
loser4eva | hrm ok so should i get the RAR from there and just extract to my SD card? | 16:00 |
arrrghhh | yes please. | 16:00 |
loser4eva | and, btw, yes it uses mjgdroid util.exe | 16:01 |
stinebd | can someone verify bug 7? | 16:01 |
xdandroid | Bug http://bugs.xdandroid.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7 minor, Normal, ---, developers, NEW, unknown_symbol on new modules for tethering | 16:01 |
loser4eva | dling the rar now | 16:01 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, lol how? | 16:01 |
arrrghhh | dmesg i guess? | 16:01 |
loser4eva | ? | 16:02 |
stinebd | dmesg would say | 16:03 |
loser4eva | dunno what you are saying | 16:03 |
arrrghhh | loser4eva, sorry not directed at you. | 16:03 |
arrrghhh | oh boy i'm getting bug updates to my email... crap. | 16:05 |
stinebd | yeah add a gmail filter | 16:08 |
stinebd | send them to their own label (skipping inbox) | 16:08 |
arrrghhh | i probably will. | 16:09 |
arrrghhh | probably. | 16:09 |
loser4eva | ok - changed the force cdma to "1" and copying the andboot dir to my sd card now | 16:23 |
arrrghhh | ok | 16:24 |
loser4eva | just launch haret once its copied? | 16:24 |
arrrghhh | you changed the startup.txt? | 16:24 |
loser4eva | only the force cdma | 16:25 |
arrrghhh | k | 16:27 |
arrrghhh | yes, that should be good then. | 16:27 |
loser4eva | hmm seeing an animation of the green bot and a bunch of phones scrolling by | 16:28 |
loser4eva | been happening for about a minute now | 16:28 |
loser4eva | just stopped | 16:28 |
arrrghhh | patience | 16:28 |
arrrghhh | the first boot can take up to 10 minutes. | 16:28 |
loser4eva | yar its sluggish. letting it poop before i tell it to move | 16:29 |
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arrrghhh | let it poop for a few minutes | 16:32 |
loser4eva | yeah its got the squirts. not gonna interupt that and get it all over me | 16:32 |
arrrghhh | may want to reboot it again as well... first boot is almost never a pleasurable experience unless you let the phone sit for 10 mins or so. | 16:32 |
arrrghhh | lol | 16:32 |
loser4eva | BONER | 16:32 |
loser4eva | it dun be werkin! | 16:32 |
loser4eva | arrrrrghhhh you da bestest | 16:33 |
arrrghhh | i do what i can. | 16:33 |
arrrghhh | i really do hate that cab. | 16:33 |
loser4eva | yeah it fuxored me completely | 16:33 |
arrrghhh | yup | 16:33 |
arrrghhh | it also fosters ignorance of the underlying system. | 16:33 |
arrrghhh | hamagc, yes, this rant again. | 16:33 |
loser4eva | i agree 100% actually | 16:33 |
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loser4eva | i pefer to know | 16:34 |
loser4eva | the downside is just that there is SO much info on this and 90% of it is old | 16:34 |
arrrghhh | yup | 16:34 |
arrrghhh | it changes fast | 16:34 |
arrrghhh | so many places to update | 16:34 |
loser4eva | yeah | 16:35 |
loser4eva | not a bad price to pay | 16:35 |
loser4eva | hrm looks like i got the wrong keyboard layout | 16:35 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, i can't confirm that bug. my dmesg log has no "unknown_symbol" in it whatsoever... i'm not sure what i'm looking for exactly. | 16:35 |
arrrghhh | loser4eva, lol that's another setting in the startup.txt. forgot to mention it, there's a physkbd setting | 16:35 |
stinebd | arrrghhh: that's what i would expect. the modules load with our defconfig. we'll need more info from the user. | 16:36 |
mes | do I understand a partitioned sdcard correctly, three parts, one fat32, two and three ext2. haret, startup, modules, rootfs on one, system on two and data on three? | 16:36 |
arrrghhh | loser4eva, physkeyboard=Rhod400 | 16:36 |
arrrghhh | er, RHOD500 in your case. | 16:36 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, yea, no telling what build they're using. | 16:36 |
loser4eva | danke | 16:36 |
arrrghhh | mes, well, only one ext2... | 16:36 |
loser4eva | is it still true that you cannot plug in to charge while running android? | 16:36 |
arrrghhh | you always can | 16:37 |
arrrghhh | it just doesn't show the charging status correctly | 16:37 |
arrrghhh | it'll say it's fully charged almost immediately, but it still charges. | 16:37 |
loser4eva | ohh but it still charges? good enough for me. i almost always charge overnight anyway | 16:37 |
arrrghhh | ditto. | 16:37 |
arrrghhh | i don't know how much i would trust running Android overnight, but i use my phone as an alarm. | 16:38 |
mes | mount -t ext2 -o ro,relatime /dev/block/mmcblk0p3 /system and mount -t ext2 -o relatime /dev/block/mmcblk0p4 /data, is this ignored? | 16:38 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, let me give it one more shot to be sure. i was using a NAND build when i dumped that dmesg. | 16:38 |
loser4eva | good point. i use mine as an alarm too... will have to go slowly with that i guess | 16:38 |
loser4eva | really only using it to get me through until wp7 on CDMA anyway | 16:39 |
arrrghhh | you're goin with a wp7 phone for sure huh? | 16:39 |
arrrghhh | windows phone 7 phone.... how redundant. | 16:39 |
mes | arrrghhh, how did you make a NAND build? | 16:39 |
arrrghhh | mes, i take NO credit for it. | 16:39 |
mes | any instructions? | 16:39 |
arrrghhh | but Wozzer is testing it for the RHOD. it's not a full NAND, it still depends on the SD card... but hey it flashes so no mo winmo | 16:40 |
loser4eva | not for sure... will have to try it to be sure, but it looks the balls | 16:40 |
arrrghhh | mes, 1 sec | 16:40 |
arrrghhh | the balls huh | 16:40 |
arrrghhh | that sounds bad to me | 16:40 |
arrrghhh | and wp7 looks bad to me | 16:40 |
arrrghhh | so that sounds consistent with my assessment. | 16:40 |
loser4eva | to each his own | 16:40 |
arrrghhh | yup | 16:40 |
arrrghhh | it just seems to me like microsoft is trying to beat the iPhone... 3 years in the past. | 16:41 |
loser4eva | i loathe google and would never use a mac product so its simple for me | 16:41 |
arrrghhh | you loathe google? | 16:41 |
loser4eva | i do | 16:41 |
arrrghhh | really... can't say i've ever met anyone who loathes google. | 16:41 |
loser4eva | they will destroy the world | 16:41 |
arrrghhh | i mean there's some privacy advocates that aren't big fans... | 16:41 |
mes | arrrghhh, no mo wimo sounds good to me, but I go one step at a time, with a partitioned sdcard and no more loopbacks | 16:41 |
arrrghhh | lol hopefully. | 16:41 |
loser4eva | well that is my concern really | 16:42 |
arrrghhh | mes, http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/tp2-android-development/131590-nand-boot-testing-test-5-sound-test-7-single-nbh-serialno-tilt2-fix.html | 16:42 |
loser4eva | they want to make me public and i am incredibly private | 16:42 |
arrrghhh | loser4eva, and you're not concerned about microsoft's ambition to take over the world? | 16:42 |
loser4eva | they are too lazy to take over the world | 16:42 |
arrrghhh | lol then don't use any microsoft product or google product or the internet at all then dude... | 16:42 |
loser4eva | few MS products require you to sign over your privacy | 16:43 |
loser4eva | all google products do | 16:43 |
arrrghhh | you're going to be very disappointed with wp7 | 16:43 |
arrrghhh | they're trying to make it a 'social' platform. | 16:43 |
arrrghhh | like i said, they're trying to beat the iPhone 3 years ago. | 16:43 |
arrrghhh | and i wouldn't run Android if i was you then either :P | 16:44 |
loser4eva | i dont user twitter facebook or any of that shit | 16:44 |
mes | well I do notice the google-ectomied version I made has better battery life, about 18 hours in really low signal strength areas | 16:44 |
arrrghhh | not bad | 16:44 |
loser4eva | yeah its curiousity that is driving me to use it really. my win mo 6.5 does just about everything i need | 16:45 |
loser4eva | just sluggish | 16:45 |
loser4eva | hoping i'll be able to use wp7 without creating a web persona | 16:46 |
arrrghhh | yea, i'm tired of WinMo. | 16:46 |
arrrghhh | such a crappy UI | 16:46 |
loser4eva | yeth | 16:46 |
arrrghhh | lol hopefully you don't use cutnpaste either | 16:46 |
loser4eva | not on a phone | 16:46 |
arrrghhh | ha, ok. | 16:46 |
loser4eva | exchange, maps, web, txt | 16:46 |
loser4eva | ohh and solitaire | 16:47 |
arrrghhh | lol | 16:47 |
loser4eva | xbox live could be cool, but my expectations are low | 16:47 |
arrrghhh | get this man a razr | 16:47 |
loser4eva | lol | 16:47 |
loser4eva | got to run. thanks again for your time and help arrrg | 16:49 |
loser4eva | see ya | 16:50 |
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xdandroid | New kernel available (20100924_224506) at http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20100924_224506-package.tar.bz2 | 16:57 |
hamagc | ok i'm back | 17:16 |
arrrghhh | eh you didn't miss much. just me bitching about the cab installer again. | 17:17 |
hamagc | lol damned cab installers | 17:17 |
arrrghhh | and some tool who hates google, yet is trying ever so hard to run Android on his phone... | 17:18 |
hamagc | ok so sprint let me put the moment on her plan for no additional fees | 17:18 |
arrrghhh | der. | 17:18 |
hamagc | nice | 17:18 |
arrrghhh | nice indeed! | 17:18 |
hamagc | lol thats just a contradiction in itself | 17:18 |
hamagc | ya i'm kinda suprised | 17:18 |
hamagc | everywhere i read i was told a $10 fee for android phones | 17:18 |
hamagc | she is on an indirect plan | 17:18 |
arrrghhh | huh, that may be a monthly upcharge fee | 17:18 |
arrrghhh | but i have no clue, i'm on the total advantage plan :P | 17:19 |
hamagc | i was told she has to get rid of the sprint retail emp pv ult pack and pay $10 for the premium data | 17:19 |
hamagc | but looking at her acct it's still there and everything works | 17:19 |
arrrghhh | nice | 17:20 |
arrrghhh | just don't call back to customer service lol | 17:20 |
hamagc | now i'm really jealous. $20 for 3000 minutes, unlimited everything and an android phone | 17:20 |
hamagc | wtf? | 17:20 |
hamagc | lol right! | 17:20 |
arrrghhh | dayum | 17:21 |
arrrghhh | unlimited nights/weekends too? | 17:21 |
arrrghhh | i don't see how... | 17:21 |
hamagc | yep | 17:21 |
hamagc | the joys of the free and clear indirect plans | 17:22 |
arrrghhh | ah | 17:22 |
arrrghhh | old in other words | 17:22 |
hamagc | no sorry, 1000 night and weekend | 17:22 |
hamagc | with 3000 anytime lol | 17:22 |
hamagc | no unlimited | 17:22 |
arrrghhh | i'm actually really surprised that the rep pushed that thru | 17:22 |
hamagc | starting at 7 | 17:22 |
hamagc | damn | 17:22 |
hamagc | me too | 17:22 |
arrrghhh | i thought any android device they would make you change your plan & you'd lose your grandfather... | 17:22 |
hamagc | didn't give any hassel at all | 17:22 |
arrrghhh | perhaps since it's off-contract they don't care. | 17:22 |
arrrghhh | that's awesome. | 17:22 |
hamagc | maybe, it's liek 5 years past contact end date lol | 17:23 |
arrrghhh | i'm not going to tell you what my plan is lol | 17:23 |
hamagc | lol | 17:23 |
hamagc | i have sero | 17:23 |
arrrghhh | yea | 17:23 |
hamagc | so nothing really special here | 17:23 |
arrrghhh | total advantage = sero on crack | 17:23 |
hamagc | i want her plan though | 17:23 |
hamagc | i've been debating getting a job at radio shack jsut for that lol | 17:23 |
arrrghhh | haha | 17:23 |
hamagc | ya i hear the total advantage plans are nice too | 17:23 |
arrrghhh | you don't get any benes with cell phone plans | 17:23 |
hamagc | Highlights | 17:23 |
hamagc | Free & Clear 3000 | 17:23 |
hamagc | Long Distance Included | 17:23 |
hamagc | Call Waiting, 3-Way Calling | 17:23 |
hamagc | Enhanced Sprint Voicemail | 17:23 |
hamagc | Includes Unlimited Text Msgs | 17:23 |
hamagc | Includes 3000 Minutes To Use Anytime | 17:23 |
hamagc | Services for LIZZY: | 17:23 |
arrrghhh | i think you get like a 15% discount on most | 17:23 |
hamagc | Total Equipment Protection $7.00 | 17:23 |
hamagc | Total Equipment Protection | 17:23 |
hamagc | Where would you be without your phone? Out of touch, disconnected and frustrated. You can avoid the inconvenience and aggravation with Total Equipment Protection. | 17:23 |
hamagc | Sprint Retail EMP PV Ult Pack $0.00 | 17:23 |
hamagc | Sprint Retail EMP PV Ult Pack | 17:23 |
hamagc | Sprint Retail EMP PV Ult Pack | 17:23 |
hamagc | Picture Mail $0.00 | 17:23 |
hamagc | Picture Mail | 17:23 |
arrrghhh | jessus dude | 17:24 |
arrrghhh | settle down there | 17:24 |
hamagc | didn't know it was going to do all that lol | 17:24 |
arrrghhh | but anyhoo, i don't think the shack gets you great deals with providers | 17:24 |
arrrghhh | if you work for the provider, that's a different story. | 17:24 |
hamagc | ya i heard they changed those | 17:24 |
arrrghhh | i used to work at the shack | 17:24 |
arrrghhh | what was that... 4 years ago now. | 17:24 |
arrrghhh | so i guess things could've changed | 17:24 |
hamagc | i hear they are not anywhere near as good as they used to be | 17:25 |
arrrghhh | but when i worked there i could only get discounts on plans... and since i already had a great plan i wasn't about to change. | 17:25 |
hamagc | lol | 17:25 |
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arrrghhh | yea... that and the clientele are either geniuses who can't be bothered, or complete morons who can't hook up a cable to save their life. | 17:25 |
hamagc | ya i am supposed to get a 25% discount for my work but not on my plan | 17:25 |
arrrghhh | lol i wonder how many people pay full price for their plan | 17:26 |
hamagc | lol alot | 17:26 |
arrrghhh | SO many people i talk to get discounts for this that or the other thing. | 17:26 |
arrrghhh | yea, i guess i am usually talking to pretty savvy people... | 17:26 |
hamagc | ya but alot of people jsut take it for face value and don't know better | 17:26 |
arrrghhh | yup | 17:26 |
hamagc | i have a few friends that are on regular plans | 17:26 |
hamagc | just didn't know better | 17:26 |
hamagc | even though i'm the local phone guru | 17:27 |
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hamagc | woot! verizon nfl works on xdandroid :) | 17:28 |
hamagc | that makes me very happy | 17:28 |
hamagc | haha | 17:29 |
hamagc | love the bluetooth comments on the bug tracker | 17:30 |
arrrghhh | hehe | 17:30 |
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hamagc | yes i have an extra imagio which i would gladly send to the dev. so dont doubt it friend. | 17:31 |
hamagc | heh | 17:31 |
stinebd | the hell postfix | 17:31 |
stinebd | i hate mail servers | 17:31 |
hamagc | via davidstre @ xda | 17:31 |
stinebd | drwxrwsr-x. 2 root mail 4096 Sep 24 17:19 /var/mail << why can't it create a lock file there? | 17:31 |
stinebd | oh look new kernels | 17:32 |
hamagc | fix shutdown | 17:32 |
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hamagc | hmm shutdown still hangs for me | 17:33 |
arrrghhh | ah crap | 17:35 |
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TheDeadCPU | Meow :3 | 17:35 |
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arrrghhh | damnit! | 17:35 |
TheDeadCPU | :D | 17:35 |
hamagc | meow? | 17:35 |
arrrghhh | hamagc, DON'T ASK HIM! | 17:35 |
TheDeadCPU | Meow :I | 17:35 |
hamagc | lol | 17:35 |
hamagc | oookkkk | 17:35 |
hamagc | woof?> | 17:36 |
arrrghhh | you won't like the answer | 17:36 |
arrrghhh | trust me. | 17:36 |
hamagc | wait i just might | 17:36 |
TheDeadCPU | Prrrrrrrrr | 17:36 |
hamagc | only 2 things make a meow | 17:36 |
hamagc | cats and... | 17:36 |
TheDeadCPU | WEEABOOS :D | 17:36 |
hamagc | well i was thinking kangaroos but weeaboos too i guess :/ | 17:37 |
arrrghhh | TheDeadCPU, you're turning this room into a furry haven. | 17:37 |
TheDeadCPU | arrrghhh, I know you like furreh. You just wont addmit it. | 17:37 |
arrrghhh | shhhhhh | 17:37 |
arrrghhh | shush kitty. | 17:38 |
TheDeadCPU | Meow 3: | 17:38 |
hamagc | lol we have kitties here at work | 17:38 |
arrrghhh | ? | 17:38 |
arrrghhh | you obviously don't work at the same place i do. oh right, you do insurance lol | 17:38 |
hamagc | lol yep | 17:39 |
hamagc | and we have 3 kittys that hang out outside. | 17:39 |
hamagc | we feed them, they eat mice and other critters we don't want in or around the office | 17:39 |
arrrghhh | nice | 17:39 |
TheDeadCPU | I know you cuddle them hamagc. | 17:40 |
hamagc | only 1 the other 2 don't let anyone pet them | 17:40 |
arrrghhh | that's cats for you | 17:40 |
hamagc | they are all farel lol | 17:41 |
hamagc | but they do their job | 17:41 |
hamagc | and they are cute :D | 17:41 |
hamagc | well i see one report that new kernal fixed mic issues | 17:41 |
arrrghhh | and delicious! | 17:41 |
hamagc | bonsi kitten? | 17:42 |
arrrghhh | yea, one of the commits looks like it should/will. | 17:42 |
arrrghhh | seems like that issue was GSM only, hopefully it won't break us lol | 17:42 |
hamagc | no issues so far on new kernal | 17:42 |
hamagc | care to update bug tracker? | 17:42 |
arrrghhh | can you try a call? | 17:42 |
hamagc | testing | 17:43 |
arrrghhh | cool, i just saw a post that says its fixed for them. | 17:43 |
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hamagc | hmm | 17:43 |
hamagc | thats not good | 17:43 |
hamagc | i got nothing, no sound no mix | 17:43 |
hamagc | mic* | 17:44 |
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hamagc | hmm test 2 i have mic but no speaker | 17:44 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 17:45 |
hamagc | hold on | 17:45 |
hamagc | interesting | 17:45 |
hamagc | 3 calls, first no sound in or out | 17:46 |
hamagc | 2nd sound out no sound via speaker but if i put it on speakerphone i get sound then turn speaker phone off and regular speaker works | 17:46 |
hamagc | test 3 same as 2 | 17:46 |
arrrghhh | huh | 17:47 |
arrrghhh | your words confuse and befuttle me. | 17:47 |
hamagc | test 4 didn't come in at all | 17:47 |
hamagc | wtf? | 17:47 |
stinebd | yeah i was worried about that | 17:50 |
stinebd | the commit mentions boot only | 17:51 |
stinebd | but calls change sound parameters so you'd have to do it then too | 17:51 |
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hamagc | bug tracker is going to blow up now, have that feeling lol | 18:00 |
stinebd | uh oh | 18:01 |
stinebd | i better get a bigger server | 18:01 |
hamagc | lol | 18:01 |
stinebd | ugh chromium | 18:02 |
stinebd | i keep typing bugs and hitting enter thinking i'll go to xdandroid and i end up at gentoo bugzilla instead | 18:02 |
stinebd | i can't wait to see the huge spike in postfix throughput on the graphs. before now it's only been serving as a backup mx on one domain | 18:04 |
hamagc | lol good yes? | 18:05 |
arrrghhh | alrighty off work. cya later. | 18:06 |
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stinebd | good? not sure | 18:07 |
stinebd | i don't know how much more the server can handle | 18:07 |
stinebd | that gauner guy gave me a good idea earlier | 18:08 |
stinebd | rework liblights for our devices | 18:08 |
hamagc | later arrrghhh | 18:09 |
hamagc | well a late later | 18:09 |
stinebd | oh look, i can masquerade as other users on bugzilla | 18:11 |
stinebd | that simplifies the bugbot setup | 18:11 |
hamagc | lol | 18:12 |
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stinebd | poweroff still works for me | 18:16 |
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hamagc | works for me on a fresh data.img | 18:18 |
hamagc | hang on the old one. | 18:18 |
hamagc | but from what i remember it always worked on a new data.img, it was after adding my widgets and emails accts and crap that it would stop working and hang | 18:18 |
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xdandroid | New kernel available (20100925_005545) at http://zimages.googlecode.com/files/htc-msm-linux-20100925_005545-package.tar.bz2 | 19:07 |
stinebd | huzzah! | 19:07 |
mes | is mmcblk0p1 the first partition on the sdcard? | 19:09 |
stinebd | yes | 19:09 |
stinebd | seems kinda silly to me though | 19:09 |
stinebd | you start counting the mmcblk devices at 0 but start counting the partitions at 1 | 19:10 |
mes | init expects it to be fat32, and large, ie all the sdcard stuff? | 19:10 |
stinebd | large? | 19:10 |
mes | mount -t vfat -o fmask=0000,dmask=0000,rw,flush,relatime,utf8 /dev/block/$partit | 19:10 |
mes | ion /sdcard | 19:10 |
mes | all the other stuff not in system or data? | 19:11 |
stinebd | sdcard holds everything | 19:11 |
stinebd | system and data are mounting loopback from images stored on sdcard | 19:11 |
stinebd | and rootfs too | 19:11 |
mes | I am trying to get rid of the loopbacks, mount strait on an ext2 partition | 19:12 |
stinebd | ok | 19:12 |
stinebd | the init scripts in initramfs and rootfs support that | 19:12 |
mes | data.img get hosed regularly | 19:12 |
stinebd | iirc, partition1 = sdcard (vfat), partition2 = rootfs (ext2), partition3 = system (ext2), partition4 = data (ext2) | 19:13 |
stinebd | if you have the 4 partitions, it should just work | 19:13 |
mes | yes, I see that, but I don't see a p2, and the less vfat the less can be messed with by winmo | 19:13 |
mes | some apps put their data in /sdcard | 19:14 |
stinebd | p1 can be whatever size you want (that fits), p2 should be roughly 15-20MB, p3 should be 128MB+, p4 should be 256MB+ | 19:14 |
stinebd | you're on your own for making the partitions, though, which is a big part of why we decided not to go on with that setup. | 19:15 |
mes | I have offline tiles for osmand or osmdroid, it would be much better if they weren't on a vfat | 19:16 |
mes | is there a way to boot right to the rootfs, no initrd? | 19:16 |
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stinebd | maybe | 19:16 |
stinebd | something like root=/dev/block/mmcblkXpY | 19:17 |
mes | I'm trying to modify things as little as possible, so ... | 19:17 |
mes | I was wondering about that | 19:17 |
mes | and no initrd | 19:17 |
stinebd | change which things as little as possible? | 19:18 |
ke- | Ok man... First step in really hax0ring my Wildfire is over | 19:18 |
ke- | Finally got it rooted with the unrevoked3 :) | 19:18 |
mes | just modify init to fsck the root partition and MAKEDEVS | 19:18 |
mes | the init scripts | 19:18 |
ke- | So which root apps are good to get? | 19:18 |
stinebd | well all our stuff was already set up for the partitions | 19:19 |
stinebd | so you don't really have to change anything | 19:19 |
hamagc | ke-: are you referring to a native android device? | 19:19 |
ke- | Huh? | 19:20 |
ke- | HTC Wildfire | 19:20 |
hamagc | native andoird, this channel is for winmo phones running android | 19:20 |
ke- | Errr, what? | 19:20 |
stinebd | our project only supports the series of msm7k based winmo phones htc produced | 19:21 |
ke- | Oh | 19:21 |
stinebd | we don't do anything with phones that come from the store with android on them | 19:21 |
hamagc | so if you looking for help of suggestions this isn't the channel for you | 19:21 |
ke- | Alright... Just thought it was pretty generally related to everything on the XDA forums... :) | 19:22 |
hamagc | lol nope not this channel. | 19:22 |
ke- | Haha | 19:22 |
ke- | Alright, take care guys! | 19:23 |
hamagc | you too! | 19:23 |
ke- | l8r | 19:23 |
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stinebd | great, now we lost a user. thanks a lot hamagc | 19:23 |
hamagc | lol doh! | 19:23 |
hamagc | are we keeping track? | 19:23 |
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x40sw0n | how goes the pain arrrghh? | 19:35 |
arrrghhh | meh | 19:36 |
arrrghhh | constant | 19:36 |
x40sw0n | the pain of bug stomping that is | 19:36 |
arrrghhh | haha i'm diving into it as best i can | 19:36 |
x40sw0n | sounds like it. caught the recent updates on fb/xda | 19:36 |
arrrghhh | basically what i do at work, without any of the money or bosses. | 19:36 |
arrrghhh | or dress code. | 19:36 |
arrrghhh | or office... | 19:36 |
x40sw0n | location awareness took a dump eh? | 19:36 |
x40sw0n | no doubt | 19:36 |
arrrghhh | i guess. | 19:36 |
arrrghhh | i don't really have a problem with it | 19:37 |
stinebd | yay | 19:38 |
x40sw0n | I can relate; a very love/hate relationship with computers and all that | 19:38 |
stinebd | http://bugs.xdandroid.com/buglist.cgi?field0-0-0=cf_targetbuild&query_format=advanced&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=FRX02 | 19:38 |
stinebd | bugs targeted for FRX02 | 19:38 |
arrrghhh | sweet! | 19:38 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, you da man. | 19:38 |
stinebd | now all we need is a date to put pressure on me and get me off my lazy ass | 19:39 |
x40sw0n | shit I must be like 4 versions back now | 19:39 |
stinebd | what day was frx01? | 19:39 |
arrrghhh | i dunno | 19:40 |
arrrghhh | wasn't that long ago | 19:40 |
stinebd | had to be july some time | 19:40 |
arrrghhh | 9/17 | 19:40 |
arrrghhh | what? | 19:40 |
stinebd | oh god, really? | 19:40 |
arrrghhh | when frx01 was released? | 19:40 |
stinebd | yeah | 19:41 |
arrrghhh | 9/17... | 19:41 |
stinebd | crazy | 19:41 |
arrrghhh | lol | 19:41 |
stinebd | what took so long? | 19:41 |
arrrghhh | did you fall into some hole? | 19:41 |
arrrghhh | i dunno | 19:41 |
stinebd | i fell out of one when i was born | 19:41 |
arrrghhh | tmi dude tmi | 19:41 |
arrrghhh | i was hatched | 19:41 |
x40sw0n | really? thought you were cloned... | 19:42 |
x40sw0n | :D | 19:42 |
x40sw0n | thus the extra vowels | 19:42 |
arrrghhh | vowels? | 19:42 |
x40sw0n | shit consonants | 19:42 |
arrrghhh | LOL | 19:42 |
arrrghhh | i was like wait a second... | 19:42 |
x40sw0n | damn... working on my 13th hour today | 19:42 |
x40sw0n | of work | 19:42 |
x40sw0n | a touch punchy as it were | 19:44 |
x40sw0n | going to go grab a cable and test out current version | 19:44 |
hamagc | ok goodnight guys | 19:44 |
hamagc | have a great weekend! | 19:44 |
stinebd | bye | 19:45 |
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arrrghhh | damnit. stinebd, i think that my location bug is valid. | 19:52 |
arrrghhh | i was thinking the my location stuff like in google maps. that works great, but it seems anything else that uses 'my location' - weather, google home page, etc... fails. | 19:53 |
arrrghhh | ok | 19:54 |
arrrghhh | now i'm just a liar | 19:54 |
arrrghhh | my location does work in the browser | 19:54 |
arrrghhh | on the google homepage | 19:54 |
arrrghhh | wtf | 19:54 |
arrrghhh | ok, just the "News & Weather" app I guess fails. I'm not sure what else uses my location... | 19:54 |
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x40sw0n | alright all, have a good night. Got the latest release running right now, and will update if I see anything freaky from it. | 20:18 |
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