arrrghhh | let's just say it was WAY over my head | 00:00 |
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R^7Z | nah, i wouldn't jump in... | 00:00 |
arrrghhh | but i've never done linux development | 00:00 |
arrrghhh | it's quite different. i like it, but damn i don't really do it much... at all. i should get back into it. | 00:00 |
R^7Z | depends on whether you consider this just a hobby or if you want it to help your current set of skills | 00:00 |
arrrghhh | eh this is a hobby | 00:01 |
R^7Z | there ya go | 00:01 |
arrrghhh | my job... it's endless cisco crap basically. | 00:01 |
R^7Z | you wont put as much effort into it if its just a hobby | 00:01 |
arrrghhh | well yea, but i can still help if i did manage to wrap my head around what they're doing... | 00:02 |
R^7Z | thats the thing... if you treat it like a hobby, the likelyhood of you getting the head to wrap around, it less likely... | 00:02 |
R^7Z | earlier i was trying to find soem time to start at source coding | 00:03 |
R^7Z | from the android site | 00:03 |
R^7Z | just never found the time... | 00:03 |
R^7Z | btw whats this: system-camera-wip.ext2.zip | 00:05 |
arrrghhh | dunno | 00:05 |
arrrghhh | but all my programming experience was free time before i had a job so there ya go :P | 00:06 |
R^7Z | haha... give up one to keep the roof eh? ;) | 00:06 |
arrrghhh | sometimes y'know | 00:07 |
arrrghhh | i did some development work in college as well | 00:07 |
arrrghhh | but it wasn't nearly as much as i've done in my free time haha | 00:07 |
arrrghhh | and most of the crap i've done at work is out of necessity - what isn't i guess... | 00:07 |
R^7Z | meh... perspective and priorities... blah! | 00:08 |
R^7Z | :D | 00:09 |
R^7Z | if only this was similar to how modding is/used to be with the moto L7................................... | 00:12 |
arrrghhh | not sure what you mean | 00:13 |
R^7Z | modifying CG (code groups) would be a lot simpliler (i think) | 00:13 |
R^7Z | back in my modding days | 00:13 |
R^7Z | with the L7 (SLVR) | 00:13 |
R^7Z | you modify CG or code group | 00:13 |
R^7Z | and usually what we call ROMs were modified in several levels | 00:14 |
R^7Z | mainly there was a security level / RSA | 00:14 |
R^7Z | that was a pain the the arse | 00:14 |
R^7Z | but looking at it this way kind of scrambles ones brain a tad..... :D | 00:15 |
R^7Z | i don't expect anyone to understand what im saying just kind of attempting to relate it some how... in an odd fashion | 00:16 |
arrrghhh | haha | 00:16 |
arrrghhh | well what did changing code groups do for you? | 00:16 |
R^7Z | well it would enable/disable functions or change the way home screens look and in some cases even allowed what was thought to be "impossible" | 00:17 |
R^7Z | like say for instance, you had an L7 that was sold in europe | 00:17 |
R^7Z | depending on the model and version | 00:17 |
R^7Z | you may and may not have certain functions enabled even branding was available then | 00:18 |
R^7Z | you could in a sense make that available to the masses but you'd just have to back up a specific CG (code group) | 00:18 |
R^7Z | because there are certain CGs that would contain personal data | 00:19 |
R^7Z | holy craps! i cant believe i still remember all of that crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 00:19 |
R^7Z | but it was like i picked it up as if it was natural to me | 00:20 |
R^7Z | odd... very odd | 00:20 |
R^7Z | :P | 00:20 |
R^7Z | anyhow... need to figure out how to relate this shite so i can help out and solve these issues! | 00:21 |
R^7Z | kno wat i mean, vern? | 00:22 |
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arrrghhh | ha, good luck dude. | 00:30 |
arrrghhh | let me know when you get the camera workin ;) | 00:31 |
arrrghhh | would be awesome if you could contribute, just take it one step at a time. there's just no step-by-step guide unfortunately :P at least not that i know of... if you find one, you let me kow. | 00:33 |
arrrghhh | know* | 00:33 |
R^7Z | it's all good bro, will definitly contribute where i can, when i can, if i can... >< | 00:36 |
arrrghhh | ha, indeed | 00:37 |
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R^7Z | I'm out... bed is calling... Off to sleepland... | 01:13 |
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Cyber_Akuma | xdandroid locked up while trying to load on my att fuze... and now windows mobile is completely messed up! TouchFlo won't load and I can't run any unsigned programs | 01:38 |
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auuph | i am having a problem in my camera | 02:22 |
auuph | how could i solve it | 02:22 |
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auuph | hello | 02:29 |
auuph | i have a problem could you solve it | 02:29 |
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Padre | hello | 03:23 |
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hdmini | hi...can i put android 2.2 on my hd mini? | 05:02 |
hdmini | can i put android 2.2 on my htc hd mini? | 05:03 |
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Hojou | hey guys - i just updated my DIAM100 with the newest (final) froyo package, and now, somehow my company exchange server can suddenly enforce security policies (if i want to syncronize with that account) - that didn't use to happen - have gives - does anyone know this? | 07:44 |
Hojou | have = what | 07:44 |
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mirgut | hi | 08:34 |
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colo-natas | good morning | 08:43 |
colo-natas | le sigh | 08:43 |
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colo-natas | i was running the frx01 build for the last few days. last night the hardware buttons stopped working, then the mic wasn't working on outgoing calls. i rebooted, and my sdcard was completely corrupt. why do these builds cause so much fat corruption? not only did it corrupt the file system, it also trashed the partition table. | 08:45 |
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Cyber_Akuma | Is anyvody here? | 10:26 |
arrrghhh | eh kinda | 10:28 |
Cyber_Akuma | Isn't xdandroid not supposed to touch your internal memory, just run off the sdcard? Because it kinda screwed up windows mobile the firt time I tried to run it | 10:32 |
arrrghhh | Cyber_Akuma, i think i responded to your post on XDA | 10:36 |
arrrghhh | can't run unsigned apps? | 10:36 |
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Cyber_Akuma | Yeah, I can't run anything that isn't signed, wm complaints that the app is either unsigned or has a component missing | 10:47 |
Cyber_Akuma | I have no idea how xdandroid could have possibly caused THAT | 10:47 |
Cyber_Akuma | btw, I responded, reason I was using pim backup is because I want to backup all of my call/text logs too, not just my ocntacts | 10:49 |
arrrghhh | well, your choice. | 10:53 |
arrrghhh | i have no clue why that would've happened, and i've never heard of that happening. | 10:53 |
Cyber_Akuma | xdandroid wasn't even starting before | 10:54 |
Cyber_Akuma | I reformatted my card and used the final build, and it started booting buy hung... | 10:54 |
Cyber_Akuma | but* | 10:54 |
Cyber_Akuma | and now this happened........ somehow | 10:54 |
arrrghhh | not sure what to tell you... i wish i had a better suggestion. | 10:55 |
arrrghhh | i'm assuming you've soft reset | 10:55 |
arrrghhh | and tried reinstalling the app | 10:55 |
arrrghhh | so there's not a whole lot let. | 10:55 |
arrrghhh | *left | 10:55 |
Cyber_Akuma | reinstalling what app? | 10:56 |
arrrghhh | pim backup? | 10:57 |
Cyber_Akuma | Its just an exe you run, it dosen't install | 10:58 |
arrrghhh | oh | 11:07 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 11:07 |
arrrghhh | well did you google why unsigned apps don't run? | 11:07 |
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arrrghhh | Cyber_Akuma, are you running a custom flashed ROM? | 11:16 |
arrrghhh | are you unlocked basically | 11:16 |
Cyber_Akuma | sim unlocked only, stock rom but it always jut gave me a warning before when running an unsigned app | 11:18 |
arrrghhh | hrm | 11:18 |
Cyber_Akuma | ive had it for years, it never refused to run an app before | 11:19 |
arrrghhh | i dunno dude | 11:19 |
arrrghhh | some people are saying you need to be unlocked to run unsigned apps | 11:19 |
arrrghhh | at all | 11:19 |
arrrghhh | others are saying there's some registry changes | 11:19 |
Cyber_Akuma | theres different kinds of unlocks | 11:19 |
arrrghhh | i'm not sure. i've never had the issue, but i've never ran the stock rom | 11:19 |
arrrghhh | i know | 11:19 |
Cyber_Akuma | But I have been able to run unsigned apps for years on this phone, apps I have bene using for a long time now no longer work | 11:20 |
Cyber_Akuma | not even touchflo works, and taht came with the phone | 11:20 |
arrrghhh | lol | 11:20 |
arrrghhh | hard reset | 11:20 |
arrrghhh | i've never heard of android damaging anybody's winmo installation, but this all comes at _your_ own risk. | 11:20 |
Cyber_Akuma | yeah yeah I know the risks | 11:22 |
arrrghhh | well assuming you've accepted those risks... | 11:22 |
arrrghhh | i'm still a little baffled as to how Android did this to your phone | 11:22 |
Cyber_Akuma | But this is like there being a risk that your car will bow up in your face when you start it, possible, but not likely | 11:22 |
Cyber_Akuma | me too | 11:22 |
Cyber_Akuma | blow* | 11:22 |
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arrrghhh | well i'd say the only way your car is literally going to blow up is from sabotage... | 11:23 |
Takuya_ | Hi | 11:23 |
Cyber_Akuma | I know, its not a pinto | 11:23 |
Takuya_ | ¿Alguien habla español? | 11:23 |
arrrghhh | Takuya_, english please :D | 11:25 |
Takuya_ | OK | 11:25 |
Takuya_ | How I connect the xdandroid to the PC? | 11:25 |
Takuya_ | Sorry for my bad english | 11:26 |
arrrghhh | Takuya_, the only method is ADB and it's not exactly easy... did you read the first few posts from where you downloaded it? | 11:26 |
arrrghhh | you english isn't so bad haha | 11:26 |
Takuya_ | Yes, but they didn´t knew how connect it. | 11:27 |
arrrghhh | huh? | 11:28 |
Takuya_ | It's possible to instll an *.apk with the Terminal Emulator? | 11:28 |
arrrghhh | they didn't know how to connect it... USB isn't supported yet. so that's why. | 11:28 |
Takuya_ | OK | 11:29 |
arrrghhh | yes, but it's easier with file explorer like astro. or just place the APK in your AndroidApps folder. | 11:29 |
Takuya_ | I put the apk in AndoidApps folder but they don't install it | 11:29 |
arrrghhh | well can you find it from the file explorer app? | 11:31 |
arrrghhh | like astro or Oi File Explorer? | 11:31 |
Takuya_ | Yes, but I couldn't install it because it's an *.apk file | 11:32 |
arrrghhh | Takuya_, not in WinMo in Android... | 11:33 |
Takuya_ | Yes, yes | 11:33 |
Takuya_ | But I don't have the explorer installed | 11:33 |
arrrghhh | ...so install it? i thought the xda builds have oi file manager or something by default... | 11:33 |
Takuya_ | Mmm, OK, I'm going to see it | 11:34 |
Takuya_ | Thanks | 11:34 |
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Takuya_ | Another question | 11:38 |
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Takuya_ | It's possible to install an *.apk with the Terminal Emulator? | 11:39 |
arrrghhh | yes, it is. just trickier. | 11:39 |
Takuya_ | There's a tutorial on this wiki? | 11:40 |
arrrghhh | i don't think so | 11:40 |
Takuya_ | Which comman is? | 11:41 |
Takuya_ | command | 11:41 |
arrrghhh | well there is, but i don't think it includes installing APK's from the terminal emulator | 11:41 |
Takuya_ | OK | 11:41 |
Takuya_ | You know which command is? | 11:41 |
arrrghhh | /bin/cp $card/AndroidApps/* /data/app | 11:43 |
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Takuya_ | ok | 11:44 |
Takuya_ | thanjs | 11:44 |
Takuya_ | thanks* | 11:44 |
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hamagc | tada | 11:51 |
arrrghhh | ah crap | 11:52 |
hamagc | crap? | 11:52 |
arrrghhh | :P jk | 11:52 |
hamagc | i still has no data :( | 11:52 |
arrrghhh | really? | 11:52 |
arrrghhh | i couldn't boot that kernel at all | 11:52 |
hamagc | but with wifi on i got 7 hours before i went to bed lastnight :) | 11:52 |
hamagc | not at all? | 11:52 |
arrrghhh | i'm still getting conflicting and confusing information about it as well. | 11:53 |
arrrghhh | i'm not sure what the heck i threw up on the interwebs | 11:53 |
hamagc | i'm going to reset my data to see what it does. | 11:53 |
arrrghhh | no, only if i NAND boot would it work. | 11:53 |
arrrghhh | that's... amazing with the wifi | 11:53 |
arrrghhh | did the battery meter stay stuck? | 11:53 |
hamagc | thats what i thought | 11:53 |
arrrghhh | i saw other RAPH peoples reporting that. | 11:53 |
hamagc | haven't checked the thread yet | 11:53 |
arrrghhh | well did you notice the battery meter getting stuck at all? | 11:54 |
arrrghhh | don't have to check the thread for that :P | 11:54 |
hamagc | ehh not really | 11:54 |
hamagc | i thought it was as i was checkign the thread lastnight but it seemed to drop kinda steady | 11:55 |
hamagc | by 12:30 i was at 8% | 11:55 |
arrrghhh | huh | 11:55 |
arrrghhh | ok | 11:55 |
arrrghhh | i still wish i had a more solid answer from the devs that gave it to me... | 11:55 |
hamagc | i know. brb | 11:55 |
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hamagc | ok now that i think about it, i did notice some jumpiness with the battery | 12:05 |
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hamagc | if i used the web or something it would drain a bit faster, then when it idled for a while the battery went back up, but at this point that is kinda to be expected | 12:06 |
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hamagc | ok new data.img, still no data. | 12:11 |
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hamagc | stupid... back to older kerna | 12:19 |
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colo-natas | hamagc, which kernel are you having trouble with? | 12:48 |
hamagc | i dunno who's it is. cameo? it's the one arrrghhh posted on xda | 12:48 |
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colo-natas | ok | 12:49 |
arrrghhh | and i'm not quite sure what device it's meant for | 12:54 |
arrrghhh | i was originally told all | 12:54 |
arrrghhh | but then acl told me it was RHOD only, but I can't boot the damned kernel at all unless i NAND boot it. | 12:54 |
arrrghhh | so i'm just confused as hell. hopefully i'll get an updated kernel today. | 12:54 |
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djdevin | my android keyboard has japanese characters on it, and is trying to auto suggest japanese words. I have no idea why | 13:00 |
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arrrghhh | djdevin, hold down in the text box and change the input | 13:00 |
arrrghhh | for whatever reason it's now defaulting to japanese... did the same thing to me. | 13:01 |
arrrghhh | they added some new IME's in the FRX01 build. | 13:01 |
djdevin | arrrghhh: thanks that worked :) | 13:01 |
arrrghhh | well of course it did :P | 13:01 |
djdevin | there's also a setting under "Text Settings" | 13:02 |
djdevin | with 2 menu items in japanese | 13:02 |
djdevin | nevermind, I think it's the input format, which I'm no longer using | 13:02 |
djdevin | makes sense | 13:03 |
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rrew | hello | 13:25 |
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R^7Z | ^_^ | 13:26 |
R^7Z | FYI link: http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2010/09/updated-gmail-app-in-android-market.html | 13:26 |
R^7Z | not sure that makes a hellobeans but in case it does | 13:26 |
R^7Z | :) | 13:26 |
arrrghhh | rrew, what's goin on | 13:28 |
R^7Z | btw I just restarted the lazin version and it ran for about 5 hours from full to about 2% when I rebooted into WinMo | 13:29 |
rrew | ah looking feedback for the panel, do you know what RED led means? | 13:29 |
R^7Z | lazin = blazin | 13:29 |
arrrghhh | rrew, red... no. not in Android at least... | 13:29 |
rrew | some user is reporting that, very weird :o, first time seeing that | 13:30 |
arrrghhh | indeed | 13:30 |
arrrghhh | perhaps amber = red in this case? | 13:30 |
arrrghhh | lol | 13:30 |
rrew | btw whats the default value of pm_sleep? | 13:30 |
rrew | maybe | 13:30 |
arrrghhh | i guess it looks kinda red | 13:30 |
arrrghhh | i think 1 | 13:30 |
rrew | 1 or 2? | 13:30 |
rrew | kk | 13:30 |
rrew | arrrghhh, is the [acl]'s kernel fixed ( containing the usb charging detection )? | 13:31 |
arrrghhh | no | 13:32 |
arrrghhh | i haven't gotten an updated one | 13:32 |
rrew | i saw a lot of users complaining to reboot after unlock | 13:32 |
arrrghhh | i also haven't gotten a straight answer out of either him or camro in respect to the kernel... | 13:32 |
R^7Z | they ain't doing somethin right | 13:32 |
R^7Z | ;) | 13:33 |
R^7Z | how many user guides do we have for starting in android | 13:33 |
arrrghhh | meh they're busy. and no offense to camro but i think there may be a language barrier... i was wanting to help him, but probably shouldn't have thrown up all those threads without testing myself. | 13:33 |
arrrghhh | the RAPH guys had some good experiences with it tho. | 13:33 |
rrew | strange, maybe needs editing of the board file for each device | 13:34 |
rrew | acl said that a battery reading fix is causing this | 13:35 |
arrrghhh | i'm not sure. | 13:35 |
arrrghhh | huh | 13:35 |
rrew | on ppcg | 13:35 |
arrrghhh | oh yea i saw that post haha | 13:35 |
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rrew | damn, cant find which pm_sleep value is the default one? it used to be documented on some of the wikis | 13:36 |
arrrghhh | damn indeed, it's not in babijoee's beast thread | 13:40 |
camro | arrrghhh: does the audio also not work for you ? | 13:40 |
arrrghhh | camro, audio in respect to...? | 13:40 |
camro | a lot of users are reporting, that they must press once the VOL button -... | 13:40 |
camro | otherwise they can'T hear anything on a call | 13:41 |
camro | (after every reboot) | 13:41 |
arrrghhh | oh i've seen that issue... i didn't experience i myself but dude i couldn't boot your kernel on my RHOD unless i used NAND. | 13:41 |
camro | it is working for me .. so i have no idea what the hell is ongoing here .. | 13:42 |
camro | ah ok - you're on the NAND - ok sorry | 13:42 |
rrew | camro, i though that you need to press VOL button to enable mic in-call | 13:42 |
rrew | we have those issues on topaz | 13:42 |
camro | good, the AC /USB detection must be done directly via rpc - and this is acl's baby .. | 13:42 |
arrrghhh | camro, there was a guy reporting the issue with the new FRX01 build, and he formatted his SD and it went away... it may be people reusing the data.img and having adverse side effects. | 13:42 |
camro | rrew: no, i don | 13:42 |
camro | 't need it | 13:43 |
arrrghhh | and i also use haret... does the kernel you gave me not work for haret & RHOD? the RAPH guys didn't seem to have an issue with your kernel. | 13:43 |
camro | it's working fiine for me .. so have no idea what the users are telling me ... | 13:43 |
camro | should be work for RHOD haret also | 13:43 |
arrrghhh | camro, it would freeze. i submitted that dmesg... | 13:44 |
camro | maybe the battery parameter we must adjust - same for all types - i only made the table for blackstone ... | 13:44 |
arrrghhh | camro, ah yea, acl was saying something to that effect. | 13:44 |
camro | RHOD freeze ? - yes, i remember on you ... | 13:45 |
camro | you must post your dmesg to see whats goind on there ... | 13:45 |
arrrghhh | rrew, well what if you just remove the pm_sleep command? I don't think it's required, and it should fail back to the default if nothing expressly configured... | 13:46 |
arrrghhh | camro, you want me to post it again? i think i saved it on ppcg... 1 sec. | 13:46 |
camro | give me the linkl | 13:46 |
arrrghhh | yessir 1 sec :D | 13:46 |
camro | i haven'T see it | 13:46 |
rrew | arrrghhh, yeah i just wrote that on the thread | 13:46 |
arrrghhh | camro, http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/tp2-android-development/134106-testing-new-kernel-battery-status-fix-2.html#post1951622 | 13:47 |
camro | i only check this thread ...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8267194#post8267194 | 13:48 |
arrrghhh | camro, no worries dude. | 13:48 |
arrrghhh | i don't expect you to check all the threads. | 13:48 |
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R^7Z | heya! mule! ;) :P | 13:52 |
camro | arrrghhh: ok, i see the problems in dmesg ... | 14:00 |
arrrghhh | guten! | 14:01 |
camro | but can'T test it on rhod ... better acl will fix that ... | 14:01 |
camro | ui ein deutscher :) | 14:01 |
arrrghhh | nicht... | 14:02 |
R^7Z | Ko ne chi wah | 14:03 |
rrew | arrrghhh, did you experienced reboots with my kernel? | 14:03 |
arrrghhh | i just like using words from other languages to express my feelings :P | 14:03 |
arrrghhh | rrew, not that i recall... i can boot it up again | 14:03 |
rrew | arrrghhh, not need, just askin, will see more feedback | 14:03 |
rrew | needed* | 14:04 |
arrrghhh | R^7Z, that should be こんにちは | 14:04 |
arrrghhh | lol | 14:04 |
arrrghhh | rrew, no worries 1 sec | 14:04 |
R^7Z | :P | 14:04 |
arrrghhh | i don't remember it rebooting, but i did SO much testing last night i can't remember. | 14:04 |
arrrghhh | or Kon'nichiwa if you're spelling it phonetically. | 14:05 |
rrew | and one more thing, is led green when the phone is sleeping? | 14:05 |
arrrghhh | rrew, i'll let you know. | 14:05 |
rrew | kk | 14:05 |
R^7Z | чепуха | 14:07 |
R^7Z | = blah | 14:08 |
R^7Z | ^_^ | 14:08 |
R^7Z | guess which language | 14:08 |
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arrrghhh | Russian? | 14:13 |
R^7Z | chea... weird lookin aint it? | 14:14 |
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R^7Z | ¿ɯoɹɟ ƃuıpɐǝɹ noʎ ǝqolƃ ǝɥʇ ɟo ǝpıs ɥɔıɥʍ uo spuǝdǝp llɐ ʇı ssǝnƃ | 14:16 |
R^7Z | ;):P | 14:16 |
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arrrghhh | jeez you bored or something? | 14:17 |
arrrghhh | come talk to this TAC engineer for me, i'm about to stab him thru the phone | 14:17 |
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arrrghhh | which is an IP phone, so i guess i'll have to figure out how to stab over standard tcp/ip. | 14:18 |
R^7Z | .# | 14:18 |
arrrghhh | i'll port it to other IP-based devices for sure. | 14:18 |
R^7Z | ;) | 14:18 |
R^7Z | should be able to tele-port about now... | 14:19 |
R^7Z | >< | 14:19 |
R^7Z | but noo... we had to el | 14:19 |
R^7Z | +ect The Guy | 14:20 |
arrrghhh | rrew, no on the green light for sleeping. and no to reboots (yet) | 14:20 |
arrrghhh | i get a flashing amber light for sleeping | 14:21 |
arrrghhh | solid amber on wake | 14:21 |
rrew | arrrghhh, try leaving the phone sleeping for about 10mins and see if becomes green ( is it flashing or static )? | 14:21 |
arrrghhh | k | 14:21 |
rrew | tnx for your testing and feedback :) | 14:22 |
arrrghhh | rrew, np let me know how else i can help | 14:23 |
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Agin | anyone know what would be the correct startup.txt to use for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Touch_Diamond | 16:06 |
jjpeasl | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711692 | 16:09 |
jjpeasl | look there should find your answer. | 16:10 |
jjpeasl | agin | 16:10 |
jjpeasl | agin do you have the startup config folder? | 16:11 |
Agin | thx I should look more into it generally | 16:26 |
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raf | Hi. If anyone has edit permissions on the xdandroid.com/wiki/, it would be good to update http://xdandroid.com/wiki/Supported_Devices to reflect the working audio in the Touch Pro2, with the footnote that the microphone only works if it is open in Windows while booting Android. | 16:42 |
dcordes | raf: you are welcome to document anything you wish at http://htc-linux.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page | 16:42 |
dcordes | raf: only need permission for main page. | 16:43 |
arrrghhh | raf, the mic isn't entirely true (at least not for my RHOD) | 16:44 |
arrrghhh | mic works fine on my RHOD, unless i'm using the speakerphone. | 16:44 |
raf | hmm.. guess I haven't tried speakerphone mode under Android.. but Voice Search and Shazam work, for instance | 16:45 |
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camro | someone here with diamond, raph, or blackstone ? | 17:16 |
camro | rrew: which device do you have ? | 17:17 |
hamagc | raph800 | 17:20 |
hamagc | camro | 17:23 |
camro | hi, well would work ... | 17:23 |
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camro | wait only test on new kernel the shutdown ... | 17:23 |
camro | the incall is now working | 17:24 |
hamagc | is there another kernal? | 17:24 |
camro | give me few minutes .. | 17:24 |
hamagc | ok | 17:24 |
camro | NonPublic, testing it ... | 17:24 |
hamagc | gotya | 17:24 |
camro | but before uploading to xda .. would fine if someone can test ... | 17:24 |
camro | so, the incall option in boot parameter can beremoved .. | 17:25 |
hamagc | ok, previous i had no issues with incall buttons | 17:25 |
hamagc | on the current test kernal | 17:25 |
hamagc | though if i played too much it would reset android | 17:25 |
camro | does your phone hangs on shutdown (with older kernels) ? | 17:26 |
camro | incall - there was a problem, if not set before | 17:27 |
camro | added now, that the mic will be set on first init | 17:27 |
hamagc | with glemsom kernals, it's random. hangs sometimes, shuts down sometimes. | 17:27 |
hamagc | glemsom, incall volume didn't work for me. | 17:27 |
camro | hmm - perfect .. i need a tester, where it hangs ..because if i make a fresh install then the hang does not happen | 17:28 |
camro | if i use my dirty data.img, then i have sometimes the hangs .. | 17:28 |
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camro | and now, if the shutdown, does not work, then it use the reboot function .. but is a very dirty hack, so i did another fix on it .. we will se ... | 17:29 |
hamagc | fresh install i usually didn't hang, wasn't until i started setting everything up something would make it hang | 17:29 |
camro | wait .. incal volume did not work ? | 17:29 |
camro | on which kernel ? | 17:29 |
hamagc | glemsoms, any of them | 17:29 |
hamagc | media volume worked but incall did nothing | 17:30 |
hamagc | thats why there is still the setvol hack in the startup for us | 17:30 |
hamagc | not that that worked either lol | 17:30 |
arrrghhh | camro, he's not on a RHOD for the record. | 17:30 |
hamagc | correct, raph800 | 17:31 |
arrrghhh | he was one of the testers of your kernel :D one of the fairly good experiences on the RAPH | 17:31 |
camro | well, the incall must work with my kernel | 17:31 |
hamagc | incall does work with your kernal | 17:32 |
camro | you should can set volume louder and less | 17:32 |
arrrghhh | in call volume, yes? | 17:32 |
camro | ok, i thought you wrote that it does not work ... | 17:32 |
hamagc | does not work with glemsoms kernal, does with your kernal | 17:32 |
camro | hamagc: so what is now true ? | 17:32 |
camro | ah ok ... | 17:32 |
arrrghhh | lol i was really confused there. | 17:33 |
hamagc | lol | 17:33 |
arrrghhh | so in call volume DOES work with camro's test kernel? | 17:33 |
hamagc | lol correct | 17:33 |
arrrghhh | k | 17:33 |
camro | so, must try to fix the shutdown ...10min back | 17:33 |
arrrghhh | i'm jealous... this guy doesn't understand english nearly as well as we do, yet he's contributed way more to the development lol | 17:34 |
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hamagc | lol right | 17:34 |
camro | the question would be - who can understand english - not me :) | 17:37 |
arrrghhh | camro, you understand plenty | 17:38 |
camro | no, i have no native language onboard :) | 17:38 |
arrrghhh | hahaha | 17:38 |
arrrghhh | what country are you from? | 17:38 |
hamagc | lol | 17:38 |
camro | AT | 17:38 |
arrrghhh | ? | 17:38 |
camro | Austria | 17:39 |
arrrghhh | pj | 17:39 |
arrrghhh | er | 17:39 |
arrrghhh | oh | 17:39 |
arrrghhh | sorry, technicaly difficulties. i've been to austria, beautiful country. | 17:39 |
hamagc | still waiting to go | 17:40 |
arrrghhh | went in 2000. great experience | 17:40 |
arrrghhh | saw the czech republic & germany too. | 17:40 |
hamagc | ehh i haven't been able to leave the country. i went to mexico when i was young lol | 17:41 |
hamagc | and i can leaglly leave the country again but i have no moneys | 17:41 |
arrrghhh | yea, travel is expensive | 17:42 |
hamagc | heh so reefs site is bad now per google? | 17:42 |
arrrghhh | i've only been to other countries on my parents dime | 17:42 |
arrrghhh | oh yea | 17:42 |
arrrghhh | just his mirror | 17:42 |
arrrghhh | his main site is part of google, which is kinda funny. | 17:43 |
hamagc | lol | 17:43 |
stinebd | i guess google wants people to use stock xdandroid | 17:43 |
stinebd | take THAT, competition | 17:43 |
arrrghhh | logical explanation... | 17:43 |
arrrghhh | or, perhaps stinebd reported the mirror hahaha | 17:43 |
arrrghhh | so you can rake in all that sweet sweet download money... | 17:44 |
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hamagc | lol! | 17:44 |
hamagc | brb, time to smoke | 17:57 |
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hamagc | k | 18:08 |
stinebd | that's bad for you! | 18:10 |
hamagc | ehh | 18:11 |
arrrghhh | was that the emphysema? | 18:12 |
arrrghhh | onamonapia to represent your emphysema. | 18:13 |
hamagc | lol i was wondering why you were telling me in there | 18:24 |
camro | hamagc: good i'l test now my new kernel for shutdown ... and then i will send you this .. | 18:25 |
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hamagc | ok | 18:25 |
camro | i was wrong ... as most of time :) | 18:25 |
hamagc | lol | 18:25 |
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camro | stinebd: hi ... do you have an idea, why the terminal emulator doesn'T take my DIGITS ? | 18:27 |
camro | only chars ..very strange .. | 18:27 |
stinebd | which device? | 18:27 |
camro | blackstone ... | 18:27 |
hamagc | on screen kb? | 18:27 |
camro | special chars - all is working, but don't let me input digits .. | 18:28 |
stinebd | do digits work in phone app? | 18:28 |
camro | im think, i tried this also on RAPH .. there's the same problem | 18:28 |
camro | yes, i can write it in every app ..on any places .. | 18:28 |
camro | Hamagc: you can test it via screen kbd + hardware keys .. | 18:29 |
camro | i tested both .. if i remember correct .. | 18:29 |
stinebd | if phone dialing works then i don't know what the problem would be | 18:29 |
hamagc | ok. i don't believe i can do < with the hardware keys. | 18:30 |
camro | also tried with different SIP's - no way to get a digit on terminal emulator ... hmm | 18:30 |
camro | if i press nothing happen .. | 18:30 |
hamagc | thats weird. | 18:30 |
stinebd | you know what's weird? android's input handling | 18:31 |
hamagc | looks like a terminal issue? try another? | 18:31 |
camro | hmm - maybe i can try with QWERTY keyboard .. | 18:31 |
camro | i only tested for now with: QWERTZ | 18:31 |
stinebd | any special physkeyboard= on cmdline? | 18:31 |
camro | no | 18:32 |
stinebd | that may sound like a stupid question, but we did have an issue a while back where the keymaps and keyboard layouts screwed around with software input methods | 18:33 |
stinebd | the most visible symptom was that number keys would work in regular input fields, but not when dialing in the phone app | 18:33 |
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stinebd | <3 android | 18:34 |
hamagc | grubar: hold your end call button until the menu comes up and you should be able to disable airplane mode that way | 18:34 |
TheDeadCPU | stinebd seems to <3 android | 18:34 |
camro | hmm ... well ... if i have time i will look to the def files of keyboard .. | 18:34 |
Grubar | I have a sprint touchpro 2, and I am stuck in airplane mode in android any ideas. | 18:34 |
camro | euro sign also not work .. | 18:34 |
camro | poud, cent also not working | 18:35 |
camro | $ is working - hehe | 18:35 |
hamagc | lol | 18:35 |
hamagc | must be made in america then | 18:35 |
Grubar | tried that hamagc, but it just spinns its wheels trying to enable wireless connection. | 18:35 |
stinebd | in terminal only or everywhere? | 18:35 |
Grubar | I am aboe to use wi-fi no problem. | 18:35 |
hamagc | hmm, and same in settings? | 18:35 |
camro | switched to englsih - the same problem | 18:35 |
hamagc | last time i remember it took a minute to come out of airplane mode but it eventually did come out (sames pinning wheel for a minute or 2) | 18:36 |
camro | stinebd: only in terminal | 18:36 |
stinebd | weird characters like euro and cent will never work in terminal anyway | 18:36 |
camro | and special chars i can' test, because i have no "ball" key .. | 18:37 |
camro | ok | 18:37 |
camro | but digits ... hmm | 18:37 |
stinebd | digits are also weird! | 18:37 |
TheDeadCPU | Good night people. | 18:37 |
stinebd | we use radians in my terminals | 18:37 |
TheDeadCPU | arrrghhh, I've yet to argue with you today. | 18:37 |
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Grubar | still, cannot get past enabling wireless connections. | 18:38 |
stinebd | everything is a multiple of pi | 18:38 |
arrrghhh | damnit, he didn't even give me the chance to argue. | 18:38 |
hamagc | lol | 18:38 |
camro | stinebd: maybe i can try to set another term - export ? | 18:38 |
hamagc | grubar: how long do you let it try to come out? | 18:38 |
Grubar | I leave it, until it goes into a sleep | 18:38 |
hamagc | arrrghhh: has a tp2, maybe he has some insight | 18:38 |
hamagc | sleep is like 5 seconds. give it a minute or 5 i believe | 18:39 |
Grubar | ironically thats how I am feeling arrrrrrgh | 18:39 |
hamagc | lol | 18:39 |
arrrghhh | nice :D | 18:39 |
arrrghhh | RHOD400? | 18:39 |
Grubar | okay, I will leave it once the display turns off. | 18:39 |
Grubar | yar | 18:39 |
arrrghhh | do you have phone service? | 18:40 |
Grubar | in windows I do. | 18:40 |
stinebd | camro: i can reproduce here, i'll look into it | 18:40 |
arrrghhh | no phone service whatsoever in Android? | 18:40 |
camro | wau - cool, thanks a lot :) | 18:40 |
Grubar | switch to android and no service, stuck in airplane mode. | 18:40 |
Grubar | try and turn that off and no luck | 18:40 |
Grubar | I have had it work once.... but that is all. | 18:41 |
arrrghhh | you've gone over the force cdma command in the startup? | 18:41 |
arrrghhh | and you're NOT using the mjgdroidutil? | 18:41 |
Grubar | ya, I have it checked. | 18:41 |
Grubar | I don't know what that util is, so no. | 18:41 |
hamagc | lol good | 18:41 |
arrrghhh | you use haret.exe to launch then? | 18:41 |
stinebd | incidentally it seems like hold menu is not bringing up the osk either | 18:41 |
Grubar | just the cab from projectandriod. | 18:41 |
stinebd | can someone verify that? | 18:41 |
arrrghhh | no cab please! | 18:42 |
Grubar | no, I click windows and click the robot. click rhod400 and forcehardware and forcecdma | 18:42 |
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arrrghhh | sir | 18:42 |
arrrghhh | sir sir sir | 18:42 |
arrrghhh | NO CAB | 18:42 |
arrrghhh | please | 18:42 |
arrrghhh | you're using mjgdroidutil then :P | 18:43 |
Grubar | oh =) | 18:43 |
hamagc | lol that is why his name is arrrghhh | 18:43 |
arrrghhh | uninstall the cab | 18:43 |
Grubar | okay. | 18:43 |
arrrghhh | do a clean install from the rar | 18:43 |
Grubar | okay. | 18:43 |
arrrghhh | use haret.exe to launch | 18:44 |
arrrghhh | and your startup.txt will stay in tact | 18:44 |
arrrghhh | hamagc, hey you may question my methods but i get results! | 18:44 |
Grubar | okay, so use the blazin build? | 18:44 |
arrrghhh | sure | 18:44 |
arrrghhh | whatever build you want. | 18:44 |
hamagc | lol i do not question your methods. i agree completely. | 18:44 |
arrrghhh | i hate the cab installs, in case you can't tell. | 18:44 |
camro | <stinebd> can someone verify that? what should i confirm ? | 18:45 |
hamagc | i do too. there is too much to update to use cabs at this point. | 18:45 |
stinebd | menu long press does not bring up the keyboard | 18:45 |
camro | in terminal or on any place ? | 18:45 |
stinebd | anywhere | 18:45 |
hamagc | i can't test, still in winmo | 18:45 |
camro | working for me .. | 18:45 |
stinebd | on blac? | 18:46 |
arrrghhh | plus as i've said many times before, the cabs foster ignorance about the underlying pieces... | 18:46 |
camro | yes on black | 18:46 |
stinebd | could be a raph navipad thing then | 18:46 |
hamagc | ok fine, booting andorid | 18:46 |
arrrghhh | i hated that navipad | 18:46 |
Grubar | do, I need to modify txt files this way then? | 18:46 |
stinebd | ooh | 18:46 |
arrrghhh | i'm a shoe-in for a hater of the year | 18:46 |
camro | ok, then hamagc can maybe test this there .. | 18:46 |
hamagc | booting with glemsom kernal | 18:47 |
camro | stinebd: wait ... | 18:47 |
camro | stinebd: there is maybe a bootoption for that . i remember that it is possible to set this ... | 18:48 |
hamagc | arrrghhh: i agree. i think everyone that wants to play with the builds as they come out should be required to know (general idea) of how everything works | 18:48 |
arrrghhh | Grubar, sorry don't follow you | 18:48 |
camro | stinebd: which device ? | 18:48 |
stinebd | camro: the boot options control navipad layout or sleep behavior | 18:48 |
stinebd | raph110 | 18:49 |
camro | and/or ... yeah, but which device do you have ? | 18:49 |
camro | ah ok ... | 18:49 |
Grubar | I put the andboot onto a microsd then run haret on it. is that all I need to do? | 18:49 |
camro | i remember, that you can disable, that the layout will be activated .. | 18:49 |
hamagc | ok long menu press does nothing but bring up the menu for me | 18:51 |
stinebd | grr | 18:51 |
stinebd | someone broke navipad in the kernel then | 18:51 |
arrrghhh | that damned thing was always so flaky for me... and like everyone else too. | 18:51 |
Grubar | dumb questions but what language is this all in? c++ c#? | 18:52 |
stinebd | all the other buttons work normally with long prses though | 18:52 |
arrrghhh | Grubar, mostly C | 18:52 |
arrrghhh | just c... | 18:52 |
stinebd | kernel is in C, android is in a mix of C, C++ and java | 18:52 |
arrrghhh | ah i knew android used java | 18:52 |
arrrghhh | but not c++ | 18:52 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, where is c++ used? | 18:52 |
hamagc | longpress send bring up bluetooth, longpress end bring up power ops, longpress back and menu do nothing | 18:52 |
stinebd | native services and libraries | 18:52 |
hamagc | well menu bring up menu and back goes back | 18:53 |
arrrghhh | interesting. | 18:53 |
Grubar | I wish sprint wasn't trying to jack me to a new plan... I am stuck with the tp2. | 18:53 |
hamagc | only until oct | 18:53 |
Grubar | ? | 18:53 |
arrrghhh | i really should try to get more involved. i was looking at some of the code that was being passed around, it wasn't very difficult... i just remember looking at the battery stuff and just losing my mind. | 18:53 |
camro | hmm .. now you need a hero like hamagc, which is trying a kernel from ~1month ago ... to see if it is working there ... | 18:53 |
arrrghhh | are you on SERO? | 18:53 |
stinebd | the battery stuff isn't too bad | 18:53 |
camro | have you try it ? | 18:54 |
hamagc | ehh it takes minutes to test stuff usually. | 18:54 |
Grubar | wait what happens in oct? | 18:54 |
hamagc | sero opens for other devices | 18:54 |
arrrghhh | yea | 18:54 |
stinebd | takes hours for me, because i always remember something else i wanted to test and then forget the original thing i was going to test | 18:54 |
arrrghhh | you just gotta pay a little more | 18:54 |
camro | stinebd: are you running on my kernel ? | 18:54 |
hamagc | lol | 18:54 |
arrrghhh | 10/1 | 18:54 |
stinebd | camro: no | 18:55 |
camro | ah ok | 18:55 |
stinebd | don't worry, it wasn't you that broke it ;) | 18:55 |
Grubar | I am sorry, sero is acronym for? | 18:55 |
hamagc | sprint employee referal offer | 18:55 |
hamagc | $30 free and clear? 500 minute plan (google it) | 18:55 |
arrrghhh | so.... why are you locked into your tp2 then? | 18:55 |
Grubar | I have 9 phones on the sprint friends and family plan, so I cannot change my plan. | 18:56 |
hamagc | should be able to change phone | 18:56 |
arrrghhh | yea... i would think so | 18:56 |
Grubar | we pay like 300 bucks, they want me on the new plans which would add about $150 a month to my plan. | 18:56 |
Grubar | they say I don't have all the time data or whatever. | 18:57 |
arrrghhh | damn | 18:57 |
hamagc | with that much your paying retentions should be able to do pretty much whatever you want lol | 18:57 |
Grubar | so, I can used the treo's but not the new phones. | 18:57 |
arrrghhh | yea, you may want to call retentions | 18:57 |
arrrghhh | they can do amazing things if you say you're going to vzw | 18:58 |
arrrghhh | or whatever | 18:58 |
hamagc | lol just tell them you want to cancel your svc. they will crap themselves | 18:58 |
Grubar | ya, I need to fight it. cause this kind of sucks. | 18:58 |
hamagc | ok back to winmo | 18:58 |
Grubar | I really like android, not a huge fan of winmo. | 18:58 |
arrrghhh | there was this amazing thread on ppc6700users with every sprint phone # | 18:58 |
arrrghhh | 1 sec | 18:58 |
arrrghhh | huh. forums aren't loading | 19:00 |
Grubar | how do you force cdma with the rar build? | 19:01 |
arrrghhh | edit the startup.txt | 19:01 |
Grubar | cause i have it loaded but no service still. | 19:02 |
Grubar | okay. | 19:02 |
arrrghhh | have you seen the faq my good friend? | 19:02 |
hamagc | lol | 19:02 |
hamagc | arrrghhh's favorite part, here comes the faq | 19:02 |
arrrghhh | because trust me, there's a lot of good stuff there. :D | 19:02 |
Grubar | looking now. | 19:02 |
arrrghhh | seriously, i go back to babijoee's thread for basically anything with the startup.txt stuff. | 19:02 |
Grubar | I guess thats why I liked the cab =) | 19:02 |
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arrrghhh | haha | 19:02 |
arrrghhh | yea i guess it was easy... but this is still under heavy development | 19:03 |
arrrghhh | so easy is not going to work y'know? if you want to run this, you need to know how it works - so you know why it's broken. | 19:03 |
hamagc | me/ claps | 19:03 |
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hamagc | doh! | 19:03 |
arrrghhh | we need people to do their best at troubleshooting issues... so they can sort out what is actually wrong and what maybe something that they have done wrong or may have gone wrong with their particular build... | 19:04 |
Grubar | sure but like all the whinners on the forums, I just want it perfect with no work | 19:04 |
hamagc | lol then this project is not for you my friend | 19:04 |
arrrghhh | Grubar, then stick to WinMo :D | 19:04 |
hamagc | camro: how are you looking? i have to take off soon. | 19:04 |
camro | well, i need more time as i anted ... | 19:05 |
Grubar | lol | 19:05 |
camro | it's ok, that you test with my latest kernel ... | 19:05 |
hamagc | thats ok? np. | 19:05 |
camro | please prepare for testing the batt | 19:05 |
camro | sorry | 19:05 |
hamagc | i will follow instructions to the T | 19:05 |
Grubar | I think its awesome, and like to fiddle. | 19:06 |
camro | the shutdown process is not so easy to debug .. because all file systems then down, etc .. | 19:06 |
camro | ok | 19:06 |
camro | and before you start finally the test - be sure, that the log will be written ... | 19:06 |
camro | via adb - you can check it ..(after doing the poiint 2 | 19:07 |
hamagc | will do. all is for nothing without logs lol | 19:07 |
camro | correct, and it happen to me sometimes :) | 19:07 |
camro | so, the best would be, to do it on terminal console, then you can be sure, that the log service will not killed, if you plugout the cable :) | 19:08 |
camro | i mean the terminal emulator on device | 19:09 |
hamagc | ya i'll do it via terminal when i get home and switch out the battery and let it charge for a few minutes. i can check to see if log was created with root explorer | 19:10 |
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hamagc | ok goodnight guys. i won't be checking the logs tonight so i will catch you guys in my am | 19:12 |
SatScan | n8 | 19:13 |
Grubar | well, teach a man to fish, I have service. plus there was a startup for the rhod400 already =) | 19:14 |
arrrghhh | Grubar, hey hey look at you! | 19:15 |
Grubar | lol | 19:15 |
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Grubar | finally I can check out the Taylor Swift app from the marketplace.... | 19:17 |
* arrrghhh proceeds to stab Grubar over standard tcp/ip | 19:18 | |
arrrghhh | like i wanted to do to those damn TAC peoples earlier! | 19:18 |
arrrghhh | ah well i needs to eat! cya later guys. | 19:18 |
Grubar | thanks for your help man | 19:19 |
arrrghhh | np | 19:19 |
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stinebd | navipad is definitely not a kernel issue | 19:31 |
stinebd | i must've broken android again | 19:31 |
stinebd | why did you people not report this atrocity?! | 19:32 |
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stinebd | wish i had a g1 right now | 19:41 |
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arrrghhh_ | doppleganger! | 21:02 |
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arrrghhh | xdandroid seen wozzer | 21:18 |
xdandroid | arrrghhh: I have not seen wozzer. | 21:18 |
arrrghhh | yes you have, don't lie to me xdandroid | 21:19 |
stinebd | xdandroid: seen wozzer_ | 21:23 |
xdandroid | stinebd: I have not seen wozzer_. | 21:23 |
stinebd | yeah he doesn't come in here | 21:23 |
arrrghhh | ah just htc-linux then eh... | 21:23 |
arrrghhh | apparently we are setting up a place to submit & test updates | 21:24 |
stinebd | we who? | 21:24 |
arrrghhh | wozz | 21:24 |
arrrghhh | me | 21:24 |
stinebd | updates to what? | 21:24 |
arrrghhh | jesus & mohammad | 21:24 |
arrrghhh | android kernels | 21:24 |
stinebd | maybe i should just set up a bugzilla | 21:25 |
arrrghhh | the whole throw up thread thing ain't workin i guess | 21:25 |
arrrghhh | i thought they had one | 21:25 |
stinebd | there was a redmine but it's been shut down | 21:25 |
stinebd | phh didn't pay the bill | 21:25 |
arrrghhh | lol that'll happen | 21:26 |
stinebd | he used xdandroid corporate funds for lavish stripper parties | 21:26 |
arrrghhh | i bet | 21:26 |
arrrghhh | so long as the strippers all had huge, huge titties. | 21:26 |
arrrghhh | my donations were worth it :D | 21:26 |
stinebd | well no. i was the only stripper and the party was on skype | 21:26 |
arrrghhh | devs gotta have their release | 21:26 |
arrrghhh | aw | 21:26 |
stinebd | i'm no longer allowed on skype | 21:27 |
arrrghhh | that's... disappointing. to a new degree actually. | 21:27 |
arrrghhh | lol | 21:27 |
arrrghhh | you should not say anything for a really long time. like login another account, so when people search for you that's the last thing you said. | 21:27 |
arrrghhh | sorry i think the drugs are kicking in. that sounded wayyyy better in my head. | 21:28 |
stinebd | rather, the drugs aren't kicking in enough | 21:29 |
arrrghhh | perhaps. | 21:29 |
stinebd | you'll be set when you start talking in terminal control characters | 21:29 |
stinebd | ^@ | 21:29 |
arrrghhh | ^A^D | 21:30 |
arrrghhh | but yea a bugzilla probably makes more sense than anything... | 21:31 |
arrrghhh | i could probably get edvard to host it | 21:31 |
arrrghhh | i could host it, but probably wouldn't be able to handle the b/w | 21:32 |
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stinebd | i've got plenty | 21:45 |
stinebd | all we need is staff for it | 21:45 |
stinebd | that'll be your job | 21:45 |
stinebd | bugmonkey | 21:45 |
arrrghhh | i think we'll have a few peoples | 21:45 |
arrrghhh | haha | 21:45 |
arrrghhh | yea, i make a horrilbe codemonkey | 21:45 |
stinebd | me too | 21:46 |
stinebd | for some reason i keep trying | 21:46 |
arrrghhh | hahaha | 21:46 |
camro | stinebd: have you found the issue for terminal emulator ? | 21:49 |
stinebd | camro: nope | 21:50 |
camro | but you fixed it ! ? *G | 21:50 |
stinebd | no? | 21:50 |
camro | hehe | 21:50 |
stinebd | i got distracted by a login shell on xdandroid.com | 21:51 |
arrrghhh | isn't there a terminal app that lets you use a soft keyboard? | 21:52 |
stinebd | the regular terminal app is supposed to | 21:52 |
arrrghhh | or does that not work either? | 21:52 |
stinebd | and sorta does | 21:52 |
arrrghhh | oh | 21:52 |
arrrghhh | i guess i never really tried | 21:52 |
stinebd | you can't pop it up in the app now though | 21:52 |
stinebd | used to be able to hold menu and the keyboard would come up | 21:52 |
arrrghhh | i thought there was a better one that the stupid blue one | 21:52 |
arrrghhh | that's right, the stupid blue one. | 21:53 |
stinebd | well there's always connectbot | 21:53 |
arrrghhh | ah | 21:53 |
arrrghhh | i used that for ssh, i guess i never even tried as a terminal app... lol | 21:53 |
stinebd | despite the name, it does allow you to create a local shell | 21:53 |
arrrghhh | haha yea | 21:53 |
arrrghhh | bummer, htc-linux isn't the buzz it was last night. i guess it was pretty late last night that i was doing that testing. | 21:54 |
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Rcarrot7Z | xdandroid seen cazh | 23:30 |
xdandroid | Rcarrot7Z: cazh was last seen in #xdandroid 2 weeks, 5 days, 7 hours, 33 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <CazH> not all that impressive | 23:30 |
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stinebd | :( | 23:35 |
stinebd | he was talking about this channel | 23:35 |
RCarrotSevenZ | huh? | 23:35 |
RCarrotSevenZ | who? | 23:35 |
stinebd | [23:30:43] <xdandroid> Rcarrot7Z: cazh was last seen in #xdandroid 2 weeks, 5 days, 7 hours, 33 minutes, and 55 seconds ago: <CazH> not all that impressive | 23:36 |
RCarrotSevenZ | gotchat | 23:36 |
RCarrotSevenZ | cha* | 23:36 |
RCarrotSevenZ | - t | 23:36 |
RCarrotSevenZ | btw | 23:36 |
RCarrotSevenZ | there is a new post in the FRX01 thread | 23:36 |
RCarrotSevenZ | on XDA someones attemptign to contact, I guess the dev or person responsible for the port to other devices | 23:37 |
RCarrotSevenZ | link to follow | 23:37 |
RCarrotSevenZ | link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8277684#post8277684 | 23:37 |
RCarrotSevenZ | they want to donate to get someone to port for imagio? | 23:38 |
stinebd | hah | 23:38 |
stinebd | i saw the post he made the other day to the same effect | 23:38 |
RCarrotSevenZ | supposedly there are "MANY MANY" people | 23:38 |
stinebd | there are always "many many" people | 23:38 |
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RCarrotSevenZ | rolls even | 23:39 |
stinebd | not a ton of people shipping imagios to all the developers though | 23:39 |
RCarrotSevenZ | what the heck is the imagio exactly? maybe google it in a sec... :P | 23:39 |
stinebd | i have yet to find exactly which processor it uses | 23:39 |
stinebd | msm7600 is the closest i've gotten | 23:39 |
RCarrotSevenZ | http://www.htc.com/us/products/imagio-verizon#tech-specs | 23:40 |
stinebd | yeah those don't help much | 23:40 |
RCarrotSevenZ | funny, no processor mentioned | 23:40 |
RCarrotSevenZ | :P | 23:41 |
RCarrotSevenZ | >< | 23:41 |
RCarrotSevenZ | almost resembles the blackstone | 23:41 |
RCarrotSevenZ | somewhat? | 23:41 |
stinebd | well its codename is whitestone | 23:41 |
RCarrotSevenZ | HAH! | 23:42 |
RCarrotSevenZ | interesting | 23:42 |
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RCarrotSevenZ | Processor's clock speed528 MHz | 23:42 |
RCarrotSevenZ | i wonder what would happen if... | 23:43 |
RCarrotSevenZ | you stuck a snapdragon processor into a raph | 23:43 |
* RCarrotSevenZ ponders on the thought | 23:43 | |
stinebd | probably excessive power draw causing the battery to shut down | 23:44 |
arrrghhh | i thought it was the diamond2 (incorrectly evidently) lol | 23:45 |
RCarrotSevenZ | so then would it require a higher cap batt or a higher voltage batt? | 23:45 |
stinebd | plus a redesign of the mainboard | 23:45 |
stinebd | and the buses probably | 23:45 |
RCarrotSevenZ | sheesh | 23:46 |
stinebd | i doubt the msm and qsd have identical pins | 23:46 |
RCarrotSevenZ | i remember when pentium centrons were the best to overclock... | 23:46 |
RCarrotSevenZ | i think it was centron? | 23:47 |
stinebd | celeron? | 23:47 |
RCarrotSevenZ | that too! :P | 23:47 |
stinebd | unless you mean the amd centron | 23:48 |
RCarrotSevenZ | nope | 23:48 |
RCarrotSevenZ | its celeron | 23:48 |
RCarrotSevenZ | just decided to drop the "l" and extra "e" | 23:49 |
RCarrotSevenZ | :D | 23:49 |
RCarrotSevenZ | or rather substitute | 23:49 |
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arrrghhh | when was that ever the "best" proc to overclock? | 23:53 |
arrrghhh | lol | 23:53 |
arrrghhh | celeron was the cheapo line | 23:54 |
RCarrotSevenZ | meh... just recall back when they were "in demand" so to speak | 23:54 |
RCarrotSevenZ | kind of like the value brand now a days | 23:55 |
arrrghhh | oh yea | 23:56 |
arrrghhh | that's exactly what they were | 23:57 |
RCarrotSevenZ | probably the best that "free" could afford ;) | 23:57 |
arrrghhh | kinda like i3 vs. i7 nowadays (not exactly, but you get the point :P) | 23:57 |
arrrghhh | well i don't remember when they were ever giving them away... intel never got that desparate | 23:57 |
arrrghhh | haha | 23:57 |
stinebd | i think they were factory underclocked for a period | 23:58 |
RCarrotSevenZ | no but i surely didnt buy it... :D | 23:58 |
arrrghhh | stinebd, gsmarena is lying to me! | 23:58 |
arrrghhh | http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_diamond2_cdma-3087.php | 23:58 |
stinebd | whereas nowadays they just chop off half the cache | 23:58 |
arrrghhh | "aka as the HTC Imagio, Whitestone" | 23:58 |
stinebd | that is a lie | 23:59 |
stinebd | it cant possibly have msm72k | 23:59 |
stinebd | it's cdma crap | 23:59 |
arrrghhh | LIES! | 23:59 |
arrrghhh | all lies | 23:59 |
stinebd | you LIE (to gsm arena) | 23:59 |
RCarrotSevenZ | its a cover up | 23:59 |
RCarrotSevenZ | :D | 23:59 |
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