| jonpry | i don't really know where the time is being spent | 00:00 |
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| bzo | maybe gaining more memory bandwidth would help | 00:01 |
| bzo | that is the main overhead, no, copying stuff around? | 00:01 |
| jonpry | there is not really any copying going on anymore | 00:01 |
| bzo | the gpu renders directly to the shared fb? | 00:02 |
| jonpry | yes, and the apps render directly into gpu texture memory | 00:02 |
| detule | i am back to a non-gposit build and in my imo, this is slower than gposit with less widgets | 00:02 |
| detule | hi btw | 00:02 |
| bzo | hi detule | 00:03 |
| jonpry | hi detule. i fixed all the rendering problems | 00:03 |
| detule | nicely done | 00:03 |
| bzo | jonpry: that is still an extra copy compared to the dumb fb isn't it? | 00:03 |
| detule | you guys have seen these google maps artefacts in emwe's email? | 00:03 |
| detule | oh nvm it was just to me | 00:04 |
| jonpry | there are less copies compared to software gl because i got rid of this lamo double buffering | 00:04 |
| bzo | I see small areas of flickering occasionally | 00:04 |
| detule | my test (street names) has been smeared lately | 00:05 |
| bzo | now that you mention it, that has just started happening... | 00:05 |
| jonpry | one possible performance killer is the serial nature. like cpu render, gpu render, dma copies. but all of these could happen simultaneously with some care | 00:05 |
| detule | yeah here too - let's try and pin it down which GLES are you using? | 00:06 |
| bzo | I've been keeping up with all the patches thrown around here | 00:06 |
| bzo | pretty sure it was the last patch that did it | 00:06 |
| detule | you're building xdandroid? | 00:06 |
| bzo | no, been patching my lib manually according to the stuff jonpry has mentioned | 00:07 |
| detule | trying to figure out if it's the last GLES blob or the EGL patch i did | 00:07 |
| detule | i guess i am wondering which egl blob you are using | 00:07 |
| bzo | hmm, good question, guess both have changed recently | 00:07 |
| jonpry | that hero egl have the same problem? | 00:08 |
| bzo | the one we cribbed from that random board | 00:08 |
| jonpry | yeah that one | 00:08 |
| detule | k i am on the one i patched myself?.the one i did returns logcat output if it hits the patched function but i don't see that when running maps | 00:08 |
| bzo | detule, that was the fix for camera? | 00:09 |
| detule | perhaps i messed something up when i hexed the GLES blob accrding to jonpry's instructions | 00:09 |
| bzo | I'm still running the hero egl, so it must be the GLES patch | 00:09 |
| detule | no, the egl patch was so that we can build egl from source in such a way so as to be able to run neocore | 00:09 |
| detule | (and not pass down extensions not supported by our blob) | 00:10 |
| detule | this text smearing is somewhat sporadic?.it's not 10 times out of 10 | 00:11 |
| andygraybeal | does anyone know if there is a tablet specific irc channel? | 00:13 |
| jonpry | these kind of gl problems may not actually be a blob problem. its just the first time we had maps using gl | 00:13 |
| rpierce99 | what tablet? | 00:13 |
| andygraybeal | i'm looking at the motorola et1 (cause it has msr built in) | 00:13 |
| andygraybeal | and barcode reader | 00:14 |
| detule | barcode reader is essential | 00:14 |
| andygraybeal | i guess verything has a barcode reader thoug | 00:14 |
| jonpry | these problems are very similar to the original compositor artifacts | 00:14 |
| jonpry | smearing flickering ;- | 00:14 |
| bzo | so you think we've been running maps in 2d mode until now? | 00:15 |
| jonpry | yes | 00:15 |
| jonpry | textures were broken. so anything other than a blank map would have been difficult | 00:15 |
| bzo | btw, you have tried any of WisTilt's patches to run the gpu at full speed? | 00:16 |
| jonpry | not yet | 00:16 |
| andygraybeal | rpierce99, the motorola et1 looks like it might survive in my restaurant :) | 00:16 |
| andygraybeal | plus the msr comes in handy when scanning cc's | 00:16 |
| bzo | if the gpu speed is tied to memory bus as well, perhaps that would help with the perf | 00:16 |
| jonpry | i'm sure it will benefit from overclocking but i like to see what i can get at min speed | 00:16 |
| detule | what about the vsync patch does fps2d break 30fps? | 00:17 |
| bzo | no | 00:17 |
| detule | wow since i got my bluetooth headset yesterday i have managed to pair with it a total of two times | 00:17 |
| bzo | but I think WistTilt's elimination of the fake vysnc was beneficial | 00:17 |
| bzo | the fps variation is super low now | 00:17 |
| jonpry | http://www.khronos.org/registry/egl/specs/EGLTechNote0001.html | 00:19 |
| jonpry | i think this does not work correctly with our blob | 00:20 |
| jonpry | it could be implemented in libegl though | 00:21 |
| andygraybeal | i need a tablet that can survive my wait staff.. and my walk-in freezer. | 00:22 |
| bzo | you think this causes the maps problem? | 00:22 |
| jonpry | yes | 00:22 |
| jonpry | thats what caused by surfaceflinger problem. but since we have source i just changed things to work differently | 00:23 |
| detule | jonpry this MSMFB_UPDATE a new ioctl? | 00:25 |
| jonpry | yes | 00:25 |
| detule | i guess there's a kernel patch to go with this :) | 00:25 |
| detule | redrawing the whole screen? | 00:25 |
| jonpry | for now | 00:25 |
| jonpry | but the ioctl allows window updates | 00:26 |
| detule | looks great | 00:26 |
| detule | that should speed things up | 00:26 |
| jonpry | it got rid of the vibration | 00:27 |
| detule | bzo have you tried the patched camera library? | 00:27 |
| bzo | no | 00:28 |
| bzo | send me a link and I will | 00:28 |
| detule | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38520332/libcamera.so | 00:28 |
| bzo | thx | 00:29 |
| jonpry | eglGetColorBufferQUALCOMM | 00:30 |
| andygraybeal | aah.. there is #androidtablets - but only one other person is in there aside from myself. | 00:31 |
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| andygraybeal | hm also #slatedroid ? but i'm confused about this | 00:35 |
| jonpry | so i think in libEGL. EGLBoolean eglSwapBuffers(EGLDisplay dpy, EGLSurface draw) | 00:38 |
| jonpry | if(hwctx&&(swapBehavior&EGL_BUFFER_PRESERVED)){void*obuf=eglGetColorBufferQUALCOMM();s->cnx->egl.eglSwapBuffers(dp->disp[s->impl].dpy, s->surface);void* nbuf = eglGetColorBufferQUALCOMM(); memcpy(obuf,nbuf,size); | 00:41 |
| jonpry | ftw | 00:42 |
| andygraybeal | with adb, can i run the phone in a 'vnc' like manner? | 00:47 |
| andygraybeal | on my laptop? | 00:47 |
| jonpry | androidscreencast | 00:48 |
| rpierce99 | adb gets you a shell where you can be root and do stuff | 00:48 |
| andygraybeal | nice | 00:49 |
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| andygraybeal | jonpry, okay thanks | 00:49 |
| andygraybeal | i want both :) | 00:49 |
| andygraybeal | this is so wonderful :) | 00:50 |
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| jonpry | detule, i pushed the kernel patch if you are looking for it | 00:52 |
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| detule | cool thanks i'll give this a go tomorrow | 00:53 |
| detule | alright i think i have bluetooth pairing semi-reliably | 00:54 |
| bzo | detule, camera patch looks good | 00:54 |
| bzo | took a bunch of pictures | 00:54 |
| jonpry | doesn't really interfere with anything so its in htc-msm-3.1 | 00:54 |
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| detule | too many trees?just pushed BT to 3.0 | 00:57 |
| detule | cool bzo?glad we could get that going without disabling that pmem check | 00:57 |
| jonpry | 3.1 is just missing kexec? | 00:57 |
| detule | yes i had to go to 3.0 because i couldn't take reseting to winmo while futzing with BT | 00:57 |
| detule | it goes all the way through all the calls in machine_kexec | 00:58 |
| detule | calls cpu_reset which i think is the last call | 00:58 |
| jonpry | reset vector is sane? | 00:59 |
| detule | i think i have it somewhere | 01:00 |
| detule | [ 173.176757] machine_kexec 0x10008000, 0x12521000, 0x8f4, 0x10001000 | 01:02 |
| detule | [ 173.176818] Bye! | 01:02 |
| detule | now if i can only figure out what i was printing out | 01:02 |
| jonpry | 0x10008000 should be the vector | 01:03 |
| jonpry | 0x10001000 atags? | 01:04 |
| detule | yes | 01:04 |
| detule | machine type second to last | 01:04 |
| jonpry | isn't rhod 2000 something? | 01:04 |
| detule | no idea i've never looked at that parameter before, need to print those out on 39 or something | 01:05 |
| jonpry | its in the startup.txt | 01:05 |
| detule | 2292 | 01:06 |
| detule | i think that second to last parameter is kexec_mach_type = machine_arch_type; | 01:06 |
| detule | and the second parameter is kexec_indirection_page = page_list; | 01:06 |
| jonpry | guess 2292 = 0x8f4 | 01:07 |
| andygraybeal | what is this motorola et1 - android 2.3.4 enhanced with enterprise functionality - is it just vpn? | 01:07 |
| andygraybeal | err.. android has openvpn anyway right? | 01:07 |
| jonpry | http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.sh.devel/12583 | 01:09 |
| jonpry | why don't you ask in #android | 01:09 |
| stinebd | android doesn't have openvpn | 01:10 |
| andygraybeal | thanks jonpry and stinebd | 01:12 |
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| rneese_ | morning | 11:09 |
| andygraybeal | heya rneese_ | 11:10 |
| andygraybeal | okay, intsalling 32bit libs | 11:11 |
| rneese_ | what you upto | 11:12 |
| andygraybeal | getting adb to work! | 11:12 |
| andygraybeal | yay | 11:12 |
| rneese_ | adb ? | 11:12 |
| andygraybeal | android debugger bridge | 11:12 |
| rneese_ | ok | 11:12 |
| andygraybeal | so i can typey typey at command prompt on my phone... on my laptop! | 11:13 |
| rneese_ | to figure out what issue ? | 11:13 |
| andygraybeal | for fun! | 11:13 |
| rneese_ | ok | 11:13 |
| rneese_ | well if my new microsd gets here today I will be happy | 11:15 |
| andygraybeal | muwahahaha.. i am running my phone on my pc! | 11:15 |
| rneese_ | then I can reload | 11:15 |
| andygraybeal | rock, i am running a shell on my computer ocnnected to my phone! | 11:20 |
| andygraybeal | this is the best. | 11:20 |
| rneese_ | lol | 11:21 |
| rpierce99 | did you end up having to play with the rules file? | 11:21 |
| andygraybeal | well, that i am aware of. | 11:21 |
| andygraybeal | i'm still not able to clickity around the device.. even though i just changed perms of /data/dalvik-cache | 11:21 |
| andygraybeal | hmm.. i'm not even seeing /data/dalvik-cache | 11:22 |
| andygraybeal | aah wrong place | 11:23 |
| andygraybeal | absolutely works now! | 11:25 |
| andygraybeal | aewsome. | 11:25 |
| andygraybeal | i got the shell and the remote screen! | 11:25 |
| rneese_ | ok where is the howto on this | 11:26 |
| andygraybeal | i'm in ubuntu 11.10 - so my howto lives here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19446284&postcount=62 | 11:26 |
| rneese_ | I am on a windows laptop right now | 11:27 |
| rneese_ | I have the droid exployer installed | 11:27 |
| rneese_ | and the debugger | 11:27 |
| andygraybeal | ah yuou probably already got it then. | 11:27 |
| andygraybeal | here is the screencaster: http://code.google.com/p/androidscreencast/ | 11:28 |
| andygraybeal | instead of chmod'ing then changing directories and chmoding again... just chmod -R 777 /data/dalvick-cache | 11:28 |
| rneese_ | ok updating my tools | 11:33 |
| rneese_ | new version is out | 11:33 |
| rneese_ | Froyo is 2.2.3 right | 11:36 |
| rneese_ | or is it 2.2.2 | 11:36 |
| rpierce99 | Froyo is 2.2.X, those are just point releases of froyo | 11:36 |
| rneese_ | gb is 3.0 ? | 11:37 |
| stinebd | gb is 2.3, honeycomb is 3.0, ics is 4.0 | 11:37 |
| rneese_ | just looking at the tools versions | 11:37 |
| rpierce99 | HC is 3.x, I'm personally running 3.2 | 11:37 |
| rneese_ | nice on what device | 11:37 |
| rpierce99 | iconia | 11:37 |
| stinebd | heard that's junk | 11:38 |
| stinebd | compared to my brand new transformer prime | 11:38 |
| stinebd | which i will likely never receive | 11:38 |
| rneese_ | lol | 11:38 |
| rneese_ | I would like to see HC or ICS release for the ROHD210 | 11:39 |
| rneese_ | for testing | 11:39 |
| rpierce99 | i really like the feel of the touchpad, but i prefer HC over CM7 | 11:39 |
| rpierce99 | HC is a tablet OS, it won't run on your 210 without serious issues | 11:39 |
| stinebd | the tablet hacks for cm are bad | 11:39 |
| rneese_ | ok | 11:39 |
| stinebd | not that they did a bad job, but because there's no good way to do it | 11:39 |
| rneese_ | so we get gb to ics | 11:40 |
| rneese_ | ok | 11:40 |
| rpierce99 | if ICS will ever run | 11:40 |
| rpierce99 | there's a good chance that GB is the last real release our device sees | 11:40 |
| rneese_ | ok | 11:40 |
| stinebd | better chance that froyo was | 11:40 |
| rneese_ | then we have to forage for new devices | 11:41 |
| rpierce99 | stinebd: hah, we're releasing GB with or without you | 11:41 |
| stinebd | we'll see about that | 11:41 |
| rneese_ | guys guys guys come on work as a team | 11:41 |
| stinebd | rpierce99 isn't even on the team | 11:42 |
| rneese_ | why cant we get gb out and be happy it works | 11:42 |
| rpierce99 | rneese_: hah, you must not know stinebd | 11:42 |
| rneese_ | ? | 11:42 |
| stinebd | also, you need to port your version of carrieriq so we can build it in tree and bundle it in the system image | 11:42 |
| rneese_ | I know none of you well only been heer a few weeks since Iwas given the phone | 11:42 |
| rpierce99 | right, which was long after stinebd gave up on his project :P | 11:43 |
| stinebd | i was forced out in a mutiny | 11:43 |
| rneese_ | ahh ok | 11:43 |
| rpierce99 | stinebd: rpierce99IQ is ready for limited beta | 11:43 |
| stinebd | seriously though getlogs, needs an android.mk | 11:43 |
| rpierce99 | i just pushed a change to svn this morning | 11:44 |
| stinebd | i beat zelda over the weekend so maybe i can help do a release | 11:44 |
| stinebd | we don't do svn | 11:44 |
| rpierce99 | i know | 11:44 |
| rpierce99 | but you said you could pull it to git | 11:44 |
| stinebd | come join us in civilization | 11:44 |
| rpierce99 | since i won't ever push it to git | 11:44 |
| stinebd | where we also have electricity and internal combustion engines | 11:44 |
| stinebd | svn is like the middle ages | 11:45 |
| stinebd | but at least it's not cvs where dinosaurs are raping cavemen | 11:45 |
| stinebd | oh god i offended him again | 11:47 |
| stinebd | cvs comment went over the line | 11:47 |
| rpierce99 | cvs is my mommy, don't talk about my mommy | 11:47 |
| rneese_ | now I have to figure out what device to get for ICS and I have to go get a tablet also | 11:47 |
| stinebd | galaxy nexus, transformer prime from anywhere other than best buy | 11:47 |
| rpierce99 | hah | 11:48 |
| stinebd | haven't played with the gn yet, wonder if it's nice | 11:49 |
| stinebd | on a related note, i've been watching news coverage of kim jong il's death on the 24 hour networks | 11:50 |
| stinebd | cnn is way ahead of the pack in terms of attractive asian female reporters | 11:50 |
| rneese_ | how much is it going to run | 11:50 |
| rneese_ | I dont see a price | 11:50 |
| stinebd | which? | 11:50 |
| rneese_ | Transformer prime | 11:51 |
| stinebd | $500 for 32gb, $600 for 64gb | 11:51 |
| rneese_ | wow more then a ipad | 11:51 |
| rneese_ | ouch | 11:51 |
| stinebd | compare it to ipad's launch price instead | 11:51 |
| rpierce99 | yeah, i paid 229 for my iconia, which is getting ICS early next year | 11:52 |
| stinebd | i don't even want ics | 11:52 |
| stinebd | more interested in some form of linux | 11:52 |
| stinebd | assuming nvidia puts out tegra3 drivers | 11:52 |
| rpierce99 | arch linux arm for the touchpad reached alpha 1 today | 11:52 |
| stinebd | nobody cares about the crappy touchpad | 11:52 |
| stinebd | it was a fad | 11:52 |
| stinebd | real men use the blackberry playbook | 11:53 |
| rpierce99 | my wife tried to convince me to get a freaking kindle fire | 11:53 |
| rpierce99 | so i slapped her | 11:53 |
| stinebd | don't ever do that | 11:53 |
| stinebd | you have to punch her or she won't get the point | 11:54 |
| rneese_ | Blackberry webos sucks from what I have heard | 11:54 |
| rpierce99 | (not really, for LEOs who read logs) | 11:54 |
| stinebd | oh, right... also not really... | 11:54 |
| stinebd | wink wink | 11:54 |
| detule | above the hair line | 11:54 |
| detule | not really... | 11:54 |
| rneese_ | http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=iconia&cid=10112004010858817202&ei=BGzvTvfNCsb9sAfErfnXAQ&ved=0CA0QrRI | 11:55 |
| rneese_ | this looks good also | 11:55 |
| detule | what's wrong with the fire | 11:55 |
| rneese_ | ? | 11:55 |
| rneese_ | the Kindel fire | 11:56 |
| rneese_ | was looking at it also | 11:56 |
| rpierce99 | other than the software sucks and they are playing an apple and trying to control the market and not allow rooting and such? | 11:56 |
| rpierce99 | rneese_: that tf101 was on sale over BF weekend for $250 | 11:57 |
| rneese_ | BF ? | 11:57 |
| rpierce99 | black friday | 11:57 |
| rneese_ | Black Friday | 11:57 |
| rneese_ | ok | 11:57 |
| rneese_ | wow I missed it | 11:57 |
| detule | isn't there cm7 on it already | 11:57 |
| rneese_ | I would have gotten 1 | 11:57 |
| detule | i have one of the original kindles and have had a great experience with it as a book reading device...plus on of the best customer service experiences i've ever had when i accidently broke the screen | 11:58 |
| rneese_ | I need a tablet the phone is good for testing and learning but I need something I can use everyday . But I have to find one that has g3/g4 networking in it | 11:59 |
| andygraybeal | <-- wants motorola et1 w/ msr :) | 11:59 |
| andygraybeal | but it doesn't operate at 2degrees F | 12:00 |
| andygraybeal | says lower limit is 32degrees F :( | 12:00 |
| rneese_ | looks nice | 12:00 |
| andygraybeal | yea, i'd lov to get it for my restaurant. | 12:01 |
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| rneese_ | I need a tablet that will work as a video phone | 12:01 |
| rneese_ | so I can chat and sign with friends over the net | 12:01 |
| andygraybeal | supah fun :) | 12:01 |
| rpierce99 | i tried to skype over my home wifi network last night, i'd give it a 3/10 | 12:01 |
| rneese_ | being a deaf/hard of hearing user | 12:01 |
| rpierce99 | Nexus tablet coming in the next 6 months, says Eric Schmidt | 12:03 |
| andygraybeal | rneese_, you probably have to sign slower than normal right? cause of frame rate? | 12:03 |
| rneese_ | thats the only thing I wish would happen is that prices would come down so people on low/middle class incomes could get tablets and better computers | 12:03 |
| rneese_ | yes | 12:03 |
| andygraybeal | rneese_, my lady wants me to learn sign | 12:03 |
| rneese_ | getting equipment is a pain some times | 12:03 |
| rneese_ | you can 1 min | 12:03 |
| rneese_ | http://www.aslpro.com/cgi-bin/aslpro/aslpro.cgi | 12:04 |
| rneese_ | use this site | 12:04 |
| andygraybeal | her dad learned sign to communiate to his employees | 12:04 |
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| rneese_ | but I suggest you start with asl for babies to get the basics | 12:04 |
| rneese_ | but that sight will teach you all you need | 12:04 |
| andygraybeal | one of the developers i got to work with long ago, was blind.. he had a brail printer and voice synth in the early 90s :) | 12:05 |
| andygraybeal | rneese_, nice | 12:05 |
| rneese_ | it uses video to teach its very nice | 12:05 |
| rneese_ | you dont have to fight to understand a book | 12:05 |
| rneese_ | ok need help on ebay finding a tablet that will run cm7 and not have issues | 12:06 |
| andygraybeal | i'll tell her, she's leaarning hebrew right now too | 12:06 |
| rneese_ | under 300 | 12:06 |
| rneese_ | wow | 12:06 |
| rneese_ | I sigh 3 diff languages | 12:06 |
| rneese_ | ASL GSL and SCSL | 12:06 |
| andygraybeal | oh i meant not in sign | 12:06 |
| andygraybeal | that is cool | 12:07 |
| rneese_ | I would like to see tablet replace laptops | 12:07 |
| rneese_ | and deskops | 12:07 |
| rneese_ | and just have wireless /bt kbd/mice | 12:07 |
| rneese_ | to work with them | 12:08 |
| andygraybeal | aah, i was wondering | 12:09 |
| rneese_ | ? | 12:09 |
| andygraybeal | i meant about.. i never understand how people can use a tablet.. but bt keyboard glued it for me then. | 12:09 |
| rneese_ | yes that or a usb port and usb devices | 12:10 |
| rneese_ | like a tablet docking station | 12:10 |
| rpierce99 | even then, i'm not going to tell my wife to edit photo's on a 9.4" screen | 12:10 |
| rneese_ | thats what the docking station would be for | 12:10 |
| rneese_ | 2nd monitor better resalution | 12:10 |
| andygraybeal | ah tablets have docks? | 12:10 |
| rpierce99 | you still have limited processing power, storage space, etc | 12:10 |
| rneese_ | some do | 12:11 |
| rpierce99 | andygraybeal: the transformer does | 12:11 |
| andygraybeal | nice | 12:11 |
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| rneese_ | well a docking station could have a hd in it | 12:12 |
| rneese_ | and microsd are getting bigget | 12:12 |
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| rneese_ | I heard they are working on a 120 gig microsd | 12:12 |
| rneese_ | thats alot on a microsd | 12:12 |
| rneese_ | and for the most point do you store that much on your tablet | 12:13 |
| rneese_ | or laptop | 12:13 |
| andygraybeal | yea 120 gb, wow. | 12:13 |
| rneese_ | most people I know have started storing on usb drives for security | 12:13 |
| rneese_ | so if the laptop isstolen all your personal data is on your usb drive and you dont loose it | 12:14 |
| rneese_ | the only thing on the laptop is the OS | 12:14 |
| rneese_ | over all I think data should be stored on a secure remote server and not on your device . like a secure nas | 12:15 |
| rneese_ | that way if the hardware is stolen you still have all your data | 12:16 |
| rneese_ | I have a hidden nas in my house | 12:16 |
| rneese_ | made to look like books | 12:16 |
| andygraybeal | now the world knows! | 12:16 |
| rneese_ | but they dont know where I live | 12:17 |
| rneese_ | and I can change what its hiden in at any time | 12:17 |
| rneese_ | but I see the world changing and I see tablets becoming more and more the norm | 12:18 |
| rneese_ | only until holigrams become real | 12:18 |
| andygraybeal | yes, tactile holograms.. like some type of field | 12:19 |
| detule | rpierce99, what are the TP impressions so far | 12:20 |
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| rneese_ | crap the tools update just fobared my system | 12:21 |
| rpierce99 | it feels better in my hand than the iconia, but I like HC better than CM7 | 12:21 |
| detule | how's the iconia dev community | 12:22 |
| detule | they have their stuff together? | 12:22 |
| rpierce99 | as far as I can tell, pretty lame | 12:22 |
| rpierce99 | they haven't rooted the stock 3.2 OS afaik, you can downgrade to 3.0 or 3.1 and then run rooted | 12:23 |
| emwe | hiho | 12:23 |
| detule | aside from cm, who thankfully have taken an active interest in the touchpad, i think the webos community is made up of some very capable folks | 12:23 |
| detule | hey emwe | 12:24 |
| rpierce99 | it helps that a majority of people who bought the touchpad knew they weren't going to be using webos, so as a whole it's more technically capable folks | 12:24 |
| rneese_ | ? | 12:24 |
| detule | emwe, i don't know if it's EGL the only thing i've tested is with/without GLES....i don't have my gingerbread tree around to try with/without EGL | 12:26 |
| emwe | detule: ok, going to give it a try then. | 12:26 |
| emwe | detule: a try without then. | 12:27 |
| rneese_ | http://www.ebay.com/itm/2G-10-1-MID-Google-Android-2-2-Touchscreen-Tablet-PC-WiFi-3G-Styuls-/300638033183?pt=US_Tablets&hash=item45ff6c551f | 12:27 |
| detule | jonpry, had some idea last night about extending the patch to egl, but he needs to elaborate on the two linear he posted :) | 12:27 |
| rneese_ | whats the chances a build would run on this | 12:27 |
| rpierce99 | depends on what you mean by a build | 12:29 |
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| rneese_ | http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-1-UMPC-8GB-Android-2-3-Tablet-PC-infotmic-X210-1GHz-WiFi-Camera-GPS-MID-/140665289810?pt=US_Tablets&hash=item20c04dfc52#ht_5156wt_905 | 12:30 |
| rneese_ | one of the xda hc builds | 12:30 |
| rpierce99 | odds are it runs the same hardware as any number of chinese knockoff tablets, but odds are none of them have any kind of quality build, and source was never released for HC so unless one of them came with stock honeycomb, it's not going to run HC | 12:32 |
| rneese_ | ok | 12:32 |
| rneese_ | 2.3 = ? | 12:33 |
| rneese_ | gb right | 12:33 |
| rpierce99 | yes | 12:34 |
| rpierce99 | that second one has a full size ethernet, holy shit | 12:35 |
| rneese_ | yeah | 12:35 |
| mgross029 | emwe, compiled the .27 acoustic up and it runs really well. No noticeable issues with it so far. | 12:37 |
| rpierce99 | emwe: is the plan to launch the new gb build with .27 acoustic? | 12:37 |
| detule | .27 acoustic is a must for non rhod/topa i guess | 12:38 |
| detule | i figure rhod users will have a choice | 12:38 |
| rpierce99 | i suppose, damn leachers | 12:39 |
| rneese_ | ? | 12:39 |
| emwe | yes, that was the plan. | 12:39 |
| rpierce99 | waaaaa we have a phone but no quality devs, waaaa | 12:39 |
| emwe | if release is out i am likely going to merge the branch to main one. | 12:39 |
| rpierce99 | stinebd beat zelda, so now's the time | 12:39 |
| mgross029 | Any thoughts of adjusting ro.telephony.default-network to 7 Global? I have been running it on every build and it works really well | 12:41 |
| emwe | you still get crashes on clean first runs with default to 1? (was 1 default?) | 12:43 |
| detule | emwe if EGL turns out to be the problem, do you mind trying it with ENABLE_VENDOR_EXTENSIONS commented out https://gitorious.org/xdandroid/frameworks_base/blobs/gingerbread/opengl/libs/EGL/egl.cpp#line55 -> this would bring it more or less to froyo age...not sure if that's the best course of action | 12:44 |
| mgross029 | I see the FC message with wcdma set yes. With Global it comes up clean. No FC messages on first clean boot | 12:44 |
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| rneese_ | lol I have just gotten a 1ghz 256 meg mini pc | 12:44 |
| rneese_ | going to load it with x86 android | 12:44 |
| rneese_ | lol | 12:44 |
| detule | i mean disable vendor_extensions in addition to the patch | 12:46 |
| rneese_ | something to do with it | 12:47 |
| rneese_ | android as a desktop pc lol | 12:47 |
| mgross029 | gtg... I'm compiling a image with Global and will send out a link later if anyone is interested in testing... | 12:47 |
| mgross029 | laters | 12:47 |
| rneese_ | ok | 12:47 |
| rneese_ | for what device | 12:47 |
| emwe | mgross029: the thing is, likely everybody here will have no issue. non-rhod need to be tested. | 12:49 |
| teemodk | anyone have fasboot working from linux ? I'm just <waiting for device>. lsusb say: Bus 002 Device 008: ID 18d1:0001 Google Inc. | 12:51 |
| teemodk | I have no problem with adb when nandroid is running | 12:51 |
| teemodk | also, win7 fastboot is ok | 12:52 |
| rpierce99 | it's possible LK or whatever is running at that time reports a diffent VID/PID | 13:01 |
| rpierce99 | you may have to tell ADB the VID/PID of your device at that stage | 13:02 |
| rpierce99 | but i have no idea | 13:02 |
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| rneese_ | ok got the screen cast working | 13:12 |
| andygraybeal | nice rneese_ :) | 13:13 |
| rneese_ | but the devorik debug is not loading | 13:14 |
| rneese_ | wow you can make the screen large | 13:15 |
| rneese_ | nice | 13:15 |
| rneese_ | its a bit slow to respond to mose clicks | 13:16 |
| andygraybeal | better than nothing :) | 13:16 |
| rneese_ | it stopped responding to mouse clicks | 13:17 |
| rneese_ | brb | 13:21 |
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| rneese | ok now we need to get freeswitch to compile on a android | 13:26 |
| rneese | lol | 13:26 |
| rneese | ok after a reboot | 13:28 |
| rneese | its responding better | 13:28 |
| rneese | that is nice to be able to test and control a droid from a pc | 13:30 |
| rneese | ok where do I disable the gps ? | 13:33 |
| helicopter88 | there's the widget | 13:34 |
| detule | don't mean to be rude, but part of learning android is struggling on your own for a while first before admitting defeat and asking | 13:34 |
| rneese | I see no widget for the gps | 13:37 |
| rneese | to disable it | 13:37 |
| emwe | there's a thing called settings. | 13:42 |
| rneese | i went to settings | 13:42 |
| rneese | its under location and secutiry settings | 13:45 |
| rneese | its not its own widget | 13:45 |
| emwe | i know it's there. | 13:45 |
| emwe | detule: so far no luck with reverting the patch or keeping it + undef. | 13:46 |
| detule | whew i didn't break it | 13:46 |
| jonpry | egl patch? | 13:48 |
| detule | yeah i guess it's not it that's causing the google maps artifacts | 13:48 |
| jonpry | need to add the preserve buffer thingy | 13:49 |
| detule | but where did we break it? i thought i tried it with the old GLES this morning, and it was still broken | 13:50 |
| detule | so if it's not the GLES blob and not the EGL patch then what? | 13:50 |
| jonpry | always broken | 13:51 |
| emwe | maps used to be fine since ever. | 13:52 |
| emwe | haven't had maps open the last weeks when the gl stuff began. sorry if this comes late. | 13:52 |
| emwe | i can push in the old blob... | 13:52 |
| detule | try it emwe perhaps i messed something up this morning | 13:53 |
| detule | neocore was also working for me with the old blob, perhaps further evidence that i messed something up | 13:53 |
| emwe | btw, CM has readded some libEGL code | 13:53 |
| emwe | also read something about copybit and MDP | 13:53 |
| emwe | but you guys are more in the know about it. | 13:53 |
| jonpry | there was the old blob that just failed to create a context for whatever reason. causing fallback to copybit | 13:54 |
| emwe | this and the link therein: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_frameworks_base/commit/4133181ba5c3777a719253134d38140491dba783 | 13:54 |
| jonpry | our blob doesn;t support that | 13:56 |
| emwe | ok | 13:57 |
| detule | jonpry, in your lines from last night, whats hwctx? | 14:00 |
| detule | also i guess one would hae to getprocaddress for colorbufferqualcomm | 14:01 |
| jonpry | s->impl==1 should work | 14:01 |
| jonpry | yes | 14:01 |
| jonpry | and for testing probably just assume that preserve color buffer is on | 14:01 |
| detule | do you do that ever time swapuffers is called | 14:01 |
| jonpry | yes | 14:02 |
| detule | i mean the getprocadress | 14:02 |
| jonpry | don't have to | 14:02 |
| detule | but it's computationally cheap | 14:02 |
| jonpry | yes not a big deal | 14:02 |
| detule | and those lines just before the return statement | 14:02 |
| detule | i mean go in just before | 14:03 |
| jonpry | needs an else { regular swap buffer() } | 14:03 |
| detule | and finally what's the size of that memcopy | 14:08 |
| jonpry | not really sure | 14:08 |
| jonpry | 480x800x2? | 14:09 |
| detule | would sizeof work | 14:14 |
| detule | oh it wouldn't | 14:19 |
| jonpry | i don't see any easy way to do it | 14:20 |
| jonpry | assuming it works. stuff can be done | 14:21 |
| detule | ok i'll try to get it to work tonight when i get home... | 14:23 |
| jonpry | hopefully that getcolorbuffer thingy really takes no arguments and returns a different pointer before and after swapbuffer | 14:24 |
| detule | is there _any_ documentation on these secret extensions | 14:24 |
| jonpry | no | 14:25 |
| jonpry | disassembly indicates no arguments | 14:26 |
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| jonpry | whoa hp just refunded my touchpad shipping costs | 14:27 |
| rpierce99 | yeah they've been talking about that in #cyanogenmod-touchpad | 14:29 |
| rpierce99 | they are refunding everyone | 14:29 |
| rpierce99 | i haven't got mine yet | 14:29 |
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| rneese | reloading the phone brb | 15:05 |
| jonpry | maybe we should just get rid of egl swap buffers | 15:07 |
| rneese | I forgot how long a fresh install boot takes man | 15:21 |
| rneese | forever | 15:21 |
| rpierce99 | nah, if you have to create a data.img it maybe takes 5 minutes | 15:43 |
| rpierce99 | the slowest sd cards maybe up to 10 at the MOST | 15:44 |
| rneese | ok awd works correctly now | 15:54 |
| rneese | and I got my new theme | 15:54 |
| rneese | its still being a little slow but its better with a fresh start | 16:00 |
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| d3tul3 | emwe, any luck in tracking it down? | 16:16 |
| emwe | d3tul3: was on the couch until now. give me some seconds. just testing something. | 16:20 |
| emwe | the libGLES_qcom.so mod was "just" a memsize adjustment? | 16:21 |
| jonpry | yup | 16:21 |
| rneese | ADW keeps crashing | 16:22 |
| rneese | that sucks | 16:22 |
| rneese | I like the android7 desktop if adw would stop crashing | 16:24 |
| mgross029 | emwe, I agree... Maybe you could test on your Topaz. :) | 16:30 |
| emwe | mgross029: need more time then :) | 16:30 |
| d3tul3 | jonpry, can you pastebin the definition of typedef struct alloc_device_t { in gralloc.h | 16:30 |
| d3tul3 | (i am missing flush) | 16:31 |
| jonpry | oh i think i forgot to push that | 16:31 |
| mgross029 | emwe, excuses! :p | 16:32 |
| d3tul3 | mgross029, i guess this bt dialer is working fo rme | 16:32 |
| d3tul3 | as are the controls on the headset | 16:32 |
| jonpry | http://pastebin.com/bM9ubPB8 | 16:32 |
| mgross029 | detule, cool. Did you make any modifications? | 16:32 |
| d3tul3 | some, the BT code is in the 3.0 autobuilt | 16:33 |
| d3tul3 | *D | 16:33 |
| mgross029 | Alright, Haven't tried a 3.0 kernel yet went right to 3.1 :p I'll pull down the autobuild and give it a go. | 16:34 |
| jonpry | i think we have the pieces/parts to put fb in gpu1. get rid of egl swap buffers, and end up with moar speed, moar ram, and everything working right | 16:35 |
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| mgross029 | Link mailed for anyone that has the time or wants to try the Global setting instead of WCDMA | 17:02 |
| mgross029 | Updates made were RILConstants.java and system.prop | 17:03 |
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| d3tul3 | uh somehow i messed up my build envrionment i am about to take back everything nice i've ever said about fedora | 17:05 |
| mgross029 | Oh that sux... | 17:06 |
| mgross029 | I messed up my gb build environment. I just blew it away and rebuilt it yesterday. bleh. Must be going around. | 17:06 |
| mgross029 | heh | 17:07 |
| jonpry | i'm trying ton checkout an xdandroid. slololo | 17:07 |
| mgross029 | jonpry, yeah noticing that here too... Cloning detule's 3.0 kernel | 17:09 |
| mgross029 | d3tul3, is that 3.0 on glemsom's new autobuild site? | 17:13 |
| d3tul3 | http://autobuild.wirelesstcp.net/ | 17:13 |
| mgross029 | Ah.. Thanks | 17:14 |
| arrrghhh | not the super secret link! | 17:15 |
| arrrghhh | :P | 17:15 |
| mgross029 | Not anymore. heh | 17:15 |
| emwe | oh, awoken from the dead. | 17:22 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, howday | 17:22 |
| arrrghhh | sorry mate. my lappy is in for repair, and another call center cut tonight. | 17:23 |
| arrrghhh | been busy the last week or so. | 17:23 |
| mgross029 | arrrghhh, excuses! :p | 17:23 |
| mgross029 | lol | 17:23 |
| arrrghhh | i have lots! | 17:24 |
| arrrghhh | :D | 17:24 |
| emwe | lol | 17:24 |
| emwe | np | 17:24 |
| arrrghhh | seriously tho, i miss my computer :( | 17:24 |
| arrrghhh | sucks not having it | 17:24 |
| mgross029 | arrrghhh, what happened to it? | 17:24 |
| arrrghhh | it was DOA | 17:25 |
| mgross029 | make -j99999999 :D | 17:25 |
| arrrghhh | but it was a replacement, and i didn't want to deal with it | 17:25 |
| arrrghhh | hoping it wouldn't bother me | 17:25 |
| arrrghhh | basically there's no screws to take off the access panel for ram, hdd, wifi, etc | 17:25 |
| mgross029 | Gotcha. | 17:25 |
| arrrghhh | which seems nice | 17:25 |
| arrrghhh | until the latch gets stuck cuz it's cheap plastic | 17:25 |
| arrrghhh | and then the fancy access panel won't snap back into place... | 17:26 |
| mgross029 | What brand? | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | HP | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | i fixed it when i first got it | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | with a lot of force | 17:26 |
| helicopter88 | make -j999999999 would have been a nicer way to break it | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | well, a lot of force didn't solve it this time. | 17:26 |
| arrrghhh | helicopter88, no joke... | 17:26 |
| emwe | detule/d3tul3: nothing new here. still artifacts. | 17:26 |
| stinebd | arrrghhh: i found your problem | 17:29 |
| stinebd | [17:26:11] <arrrghhh> HP | 17:29 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, yeayea | 17:29 |
| stinebd | don't say i didn't warn you | 17:30 |
| arrrghhh | it's a good laptop, but that hinge design is both dumb and nice at the same time. | 17:30 |
| arrrghhh | i like everything else about it so far. great kb, great screen, the design of the rest seems solid... like display hinges. | 17:30 |
| mgross029 | I've had good and bad luck with HP but that is the same with almost every brand. | 17:31 |
| mgross029 | Just had to replace the right speaker in my wifes dv5. Just out of warranty too. bleh | 17:31 |
| arrrghhh | yea, failures happen with any manufacturer | 17:32 |
| arrrghhh | and this is honestly minor, just annoying. | 17:32 |
| arrrghhh | i want to get it fixed before it falls out of warranty | 17:32 |
| arrrghhh | i really do like asus, but i couldn't go with a glossy screen. just couldn't do it. | 17:33 |
| emwe | stinebd: meep. that signing-script, can you put that somewhere. i don't intend to release sth on my own, i can just try to take away some work. | 17:33 |
| helicopter88 | how much warranty do you have? | 17:33 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, are we going to see emwe.com? | 17:33 |
| arrrghhh | helicopter88, i think it's 1 year. i've only had the laptop a few months. | 17:33 |
| helicopter88 | here them are forced to give 2 yrs | 17:33 |
| helicopter88 | :D | 17:33 |
| arrrghhh | damn | 17:34 |
| arrrghhh | must make product price go up | 17:34 |
| helicopter88 | not a lot | 17:34 |
| arrrghhh | business line lappys usually get 3 year standard | 17:34 |
| helicopter88 | the problems are the taxes | 17:34 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: yeah, thought about a fork. :P | 17:35 |
| arrrghhh | haha | 17:35 |
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| stinebd | emwe: i can't sorry | 17:37 |
| stinebd | that script is protected by latvian copyright law | 17:37 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:37 |
| arrrghhh | latvian | 17:37 |
| * emwe hides his orange scarf | 17:37 | |
| emwe | oh, that was lithunia iirc | 17:39 |
| arrrghhh | zomg i love reading the logs. | 17:41 |
| arrrghhh | "<stinebd> but at least it's not cvs where dinosaurs are raping cavemen" | 17:41 |
| arrrghhh | bwhahahahaha | 17:42 |
| arrrghhh | dinosaurs raping cavemen, very nice visual. | 17:42 |
| stinebd | i'm glad you approve | 17:42 |
| mgross029 | emwe, did you ever find anything on the elevated touch tones when dialing. IIRC you were working on something with that correct? | 17:42 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, ofc | 17:42 |
| emwe | mgross029: it's "fixed" in the sense the AGC is not as aggressive. is committed. | 17:43 |
| mgross029 | Ok. Thought I saw that just wasn't sure. Thanks | 17:43 |
| stinebd | emwe: did i put the release keys in xdandroid's ~? | 17:45 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, so you want animals to start testing? | 17:45 |
| arrrghhh | i saw the .releng email | 17:45 |
| emwe | stinebd: yes. | 17:45 |
| stinebd | oh no i didn't | 17:45 |
| stinebd | i put them in xdandroidmirror | 17:45 |
| emwe | STRICTLY-PRIVATE? | 17:45 |
| stinebd | yeah | 17:45 |
| stinebd | the script is already there actually | 17:45 |
| emwe | oh, never looked in there :P | 17:45 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: i just can't stand it anymore. | 17:46 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, ? | 17:46 |
| emwe | arrrghhh: it's been too long already. get out, share warchest, buy new phone. be done. | 17:47 |
| emwe | the latter being a joke for some weeks still | 17:47 |
| mgross029 | in that order. :p | 17:47 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, buy new phone!??! | 17:48 |
| arrrghhh | noes. | 17:48 |
| arrrghhh | i am seriously considering buying another phone/service just to tinker | 17:48 |
| stinebd | oh yeah | 17:48 |
| stinebd | about the warchest... | 17:48 |
| arrrghhh | hookers sapped it all already? | 17:48 |
| stinebd | i used it to preorder a bunch of transformer primes from best buy | 17:48 |
| stinebd | none of which will ever be shipped | 17:49 |
| emwe | i still think about getting a rhod100 after xmas in the hope there's some cheap ones around on ebay... | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, lol | 17:49 |
| emwe | for the last month of tinkering... | 17:49 |
| emwe | or 2 max. | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, then what? | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | you done for good? | 17:49 |
| emwe | then baby time? | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | bah | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | babies take care of themselves | 17:49 |
| helicopter88 | lol | 17:49 |
| arrrghhh | that's what women are for | 17:50 |
| stinebd | bam | 17:50 |
| stinebd | i was just about to say it | 17:50 |
| emwe | see what happened to JB... :P | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | yea, jb just fell off the face of the planet... | 17:50 |
| stinebd | no i'm pretty sure jb went crazy from looking at his own code | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | lol | 17:50 |
| emwe | i whonder how you guys got girls. ok, at least arrrghhh did :P | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | emwe, zing! | 17:50 |
| arrrghhh | yea, i'm not sure why i'm not single. | 17:50 |
| stinebd | let's be realistic | 17:50 |
| stinebd | i'm single because i'm an ass, not because i'm too busy here | 17:51 |
| emwe | i see no protest around here. | 17:52 |
| arrrghhh | . | 17:52 |
| mgross029 | heh | 17:53 |
| stinebd | i rest my case | 17:53 |
| emwe | ;) | 17:53 |
| mgross029 | Well at least he's honest. :p | 17:54 |
| emwe | gnight peeps. | 17:54 |
| mgross029 | later emwe | 17:54 |
| stinebd | night emwe | 17:54 |
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| rneese | ok with a fresh reload its working better but some apps still have issues | 18:05 |
| rneese | adw.launcher keeps crashing thats the main issue now | 18:06 |
| arrrghhh | are you asking a question rneese ? | 18:12 |
| rneese | no I am stating a issue | 18:15 |
| rneese | its making me mad | 18:15 |
| rneese | lol | 18:15 |
| arrrghhh | k | 18:15 |
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| rneese | ok I added a widget to the desktop now i cant delete it | 18:42 |
| rneese | I added a calander here I did not want it | 18:43 |
| rneese | and it wont let me drag and delete | 18:43 |
| arrrghhh | patience | 18:44 |
| rneese | any time you touch the calander to drag it it just opens | 18:45 |
| arrrghhh | k | 18:46 |
| rneese | is there another way to rm it | 18:46 |
| rneese | a desktop widget | 18:46 |
| arrrghhh | short of resetting ADW | 18:46 |
| arrrghhh | i dunno | 18:46 |
| arrrghhh | never had that problem before. | 18:46 |
| rneese | ok reseting got rid of it | 18:50 |
| rneese | well now I have to redo my desktops but thats cool | 18:51 |
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| rneese | the calander came back on a reboot | 19:11 |
| rneese | and I cant find how to rm it | 19:11 |
| rneese | its nit draging | 19:11 |
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| arrrghhh | rneese, what calendar are you talking about? | 19:12 |
| arrrghhh | the icon? | 19:12 |
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| rneese | found the issue | 19:16 |
| rneese | awd had locked the desktop | 19:16 |
| rneese | you can add icons but not delete them | 19:16 |
| rneese | I had to unlock the desktop | 19:16 |
| rneese | its gone now | 19:16 |
| arrrghhh | stinebd, it's over | 19:17 |
| arrrghhh | http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/19/atandt-abandons-t-mobile-merger-plans/ | 19:17 |
| arrrghhh | rneese, LOL | 19:17 |
| arrrghhh | i assumed you had made sure the desktop wasn't locked. | 19:17 |
| rneese | wow I did not know at&t was trying to get tmobile | 19:19 |
| arrrghhh | seriously? | 19:19 |
| stinebd | it was not a highly publicized deal | 19:19 |
| arrrghhh | where have you been the last... 6 months? | 19:19 |
| arrrghhh | LOL | 19:19 |
| rneese | dealing with work for a company in NZ and not dealing with cell phones | 19:21 |
| arrrghhh | it's been all over the news. | 19:21 |
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| rneese | I dont watch much tv | 19:28 |
| rneese | but that would have ment having to go with at&t or fidnd a diff provider for this phone | 19:29 |
| arrrghhh | you're on tmobile | 19:30 |
| arrrghhh | and didn't know about the merger... | 19:30 |
| arrrghhh | wow | 19:30 |
| arrrghhh | i guess i read tech blogs a lot | 19:30 |
| arrrghhh | and you couldn't avoid that merger on any tech blog. | 19:30 |
| rneese | I dont read alot of blogs not had the time | 19:32 |
| rneese | now that things hav e slowed down . I can catch up | 19:33 |
| rneese | to bad this phone can not do cdma and gsm I would go with sprint | 19:33 |
| rneese | but it complains there is no simcard | 19:34 |
| rneese | have you tested iris at all | 19:35 |
| rneese | needs work but nice tool | 19:35 |
| arrrghhh | iris? | 19:36 |
| rneese | siri for android | 19:37 |
| rneese | they called it iris | 19:37 |
| arrrghhh | meh | 19:37 |
| arrrghhh | google voice command is more than enough for me. | 19:38 |
| rneese | just been seeing how well it deals with off speach | 19:40 |
| rneese | for hard of hearing with poor speach | 19:40 |
| arrrghhh | dunno | 19:41 |
| rneese | its ok needs work | 19:41 |
| arrrghhh | oh well | 19:41 |
| arrrghhh | i need to go do this cut | 19:41 |
| arrrghhh | ttyl | 19:41 |
| rneese | ? | 19:41 |
| rneese | what cut | 19:41 |
| arrrghhh | call center | 19:41 |
| rneese | ahh ok | 19:42 |
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| rneese | ok the power widget is nice | 20:55 |
| rneese | you can turn off the diff items to save power | 20:56 |
| andygraybeal | rneese, is it an app to d/l or? | 20:59 |
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| Propane_Tank | anyone here running Android 2.2 on HTC Touch Pro? | 22:07 |
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| andygraybeal | i am | 22:16 |
| andygraybeal | Propane_Tank, i am - i'm running the froyo | 22:16 |
| andygraybeal | lemme get you the link that i followed | 22:16 |
| Propane_Tank | Does your data connection work? | 22:16 |
| andygraybeal | Propane_Tank, aah.. i got a touch pro2 | 22:16 |
| andygraybeal | i don't know if that is different | 22:16 |
| Propane_Tank | oh, i have the first one | 22:17 |
| andygraybeal | Propane_Tank, i don't have cell service (cause i didn't purchase from a carrier yet) but yea, the wlan works great. | 22:17 |
| Propane_Tank | I get the WiFi to work, but I can't connect to the cell towers for data, but phone calls work | 22:17 |
| andygraybeal | sorry man yea, i can't help | 22:18 |
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